[01:09] <eschatron> honk
[01:31] <duanedesign> hello eschatron
[02:15] <eschatron> duanedesign: sorry, i had to step out.  are you still around?
[02:15] <duanedesign> yes hello
[02:15] <eschatron> hi.  were you respoding because you can help me?
[02:16] <duanedesign> i can try :)
[02:17] <eschatron> thank you.  i'm simply trying to keep some shared files across two kubuntu boxes
[02:18] <eschatron> i'm using the ppa kde client.  perhaps i should wait for a more official one, but i'm hoping that isn't the only way
[02:19] <eschatron> i installed the packages on both machines and added them to my ubuntuone account, but only one of them succeeds in uploading anything, and then only sometimes
[02:19] <eschatron> and neither one downloads anything
[02:19] <duanedesign> eschatron: what does this command return:  dpkg -l ubuntuone-client
[02:20] <eschatron> assuming you want the version number, 1.0.3-0ubuntu1
[02:25] <duanedesign> ok
[02:28] <duanedesign> if you want to look and see if ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[02:28] <duanedesign> contains anythhing
[02:29] <duanedesign> if so could you pastebin it at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <eschatron> i don't seem to have one
[02:33] <duanedesign> eschatron: ok well we can look at  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[02:34] <eschatron> duanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/421393/
[02:37] <eschatron> you know, i just dropped in a new file and that one uploaded.  so i guess both machines upload intermittently
[02:42] <eschatron> ok, and now it did arrive on the other machine.  this is a first
[02:43] <eschatron> perhaps i've wasted your time
[02:43] <duanedesign> eschatron: no thats ok
[02:44] <duanedesign> eschatron: U1 is not as fast as it could be when syncing lots of small files
[02:44] <eschatron> what is lots?  because i tried 6 files around 50k each and gave up after an hour.  3 of them made it
[02:50] <duanedesign> eschatron: does this command return anything in KDE.
[02:50] <duanedesign> dbus-send --session --print-reply  --dest=com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon --type=method_call /status com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Status.current_status
[02:50] <eschatron> yes, do you want the output?
[02:51] <duanedesign> no thats ok
[02:51] <duanedesign> That is a good way to see what is going on
[02:51] <duanedesign> string "queues"
[02:51] <duanedesign> string "WORKING_ON_CONTENT"
[02:51] <duanedesign> that is what mine says
[02:52] <duanedesign> if you are expecting it to be uploading you generally dont want that to be IDLE
[02:52] <duanedesign> string "connection"
[02:52] <duanedesign> string "With User With Network"
[02:52] <duanedesign> thats good
[02:53] <eschatron> i seem to have different headings, but i believe i understand anyway
[02:53] <duanedesign> you dont want something like without user without networ
[02:53] <eschatron> i have "is_connected" "True" and "is_online" "True"
[02:53] <duanedesign> that is good means its connected to server
[02:54] <duanedesign> is online might be False for a short time when you first start up
[02:54] <duanedesign> while it does Local_Rescan
[02:54] <eschatron> i see
[02:54] <eschatron> it seems like everything works right now, i've gotten files moved in both directions
[02:54] <eschatron> thank you for your help
[02:55] <duanedesign> absoloutely
[03:36] <facundobatista> duanedesign, if you're more interested in the internals, you may find a good graph in docs/states_manager.svg
[03:36] <facundobatista> duanedesign, any doubt, just ask
[03:37] <duanedesign> facundobatista: oh wow! thank you
[03:38] <facundobatista> duanedesign, btw, it's easier to ask the state by doing u1sdtool --status
[03:38] <facundobatista> duanedesign, and there're rumors that a full GUI is being worked somewhere
[03:39] <duanedesign> facundobatista: he was on 1.0.3. Been awhile since I used it but i thought it didnt have u1sdtool -s
[03:40] <facundobatista> duanedesign, mmm... I really didn't use u1sdtool before a couple of months ago, but I think it was there from the early days
[03:41] <duanedesign> :)
[03:41] <duanedesign> oko
[04:51] <kermiac> rye: duanedesign: is there a workaround for "STANDOFF_WAITING_WITH_NETWORK_WITH_BOTHQ" bug 487257
[04:52] <duanedesign> hello kermiac
[04:52] <kermiac> hi duanedesign :)
[04:53] <duanedesign> i need to look at my irssi settings. I am not getting pinged when my name is mentioned :(
[04:53] <kermiac> I'm not having much luck with the poor op in bug 565391. They're now experiencing ^^
[04:55] <kermiac> duanedesign: any suggestions for the next step? I'm not sure what he should try next (apart from wait 6 days for lucid hehe - not the best way to resolve the issue)
[05:00] <duanedesign> 2010-04-23 17:22:05,647 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.fsm - WARNING - OSError [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/gotardo/.cache/ubuntuone/partials/a555bf40-0483-4354-8efa-2579212419ff.u1partial.Ubuntu One' when trying to remove partial_path '/home/gotardo/.cache/ubuntuone/partials/a555bf40-0483-4354-8efa-2579212419ff.u1partial.Ubuntu One'
[05:01] <duanedesign> not sure what that means..
[05:02] <kermiac> hmmm me either
[05:03] <duanedesign> kermiac: i wonder what is causing his connection to go off
[05:04] <kermiac> duanedesign: yeah, seems strange that it appears to connect for a very short time than drops out
[05:04]  * kermiac shrugs
[05:04] <kermiac> maybe another one to ping rye about later hehe
[05:05] <duanedesign> kermiac: he  could upgrade to the PPA version.
[05:05] <kermiac> I've had the poor op almost jumping through hoops trying to help him get up & running but nothing I'm suggesting seem to work
[05:06] <kermiac> duanedesign: ah, that's an idea... I'll suggest that :)
[05:06] <kermiac> it's one of the only things I haven't had them try hehe
[05:06] <duanedesign> kermiac: might warn him of the applet being replaced by the Preferences panel
[05:07] <duanedesign> on my karmic box I made a custom launcher in my panel that runs ubuntuone-preferences
[05:07] <duanedesign> kinda like having the applet.
[05:08] <kermiac> yup, will do. do you know if u1sdtool has more functionality in the ppa version? like will it have the u1sdtool -s ?? I haven't used the ppa version on my karmic box
[05:08] <kermiac> duanedesign: custom launcher is a good workaround :)
[10:27] <freakabcd> hi all
[10:27] <duanedesign> hello freakabcd
[10:27] <freakabcd> does using U1 require me to register my machine?
[10:28] <freakabcd> i heard a friend of mine say that you have to register your machine or something similar
[10:28] <duanedesign> you need to tell it which computers you want to connect to your Ubuntu ONe account
[10:30] <freakabcd> why?
[10:31] <freakabcd> i thought my friend was joking. because why would a 'computer' (ip addr/mac addr/hostname/something_else) need to be registered
[10:32] <Treenaks> because that's how U1 works (and it's not the hostname/something else, afaik it's just a random key generated at install time/first run time)
[10:32] <Treenaks> but don't quote me on that :)
[10:32] <freakabcd> is this possibly being listed as a security feature? If yes, is there a way to just simply 'mount' the cloud drive and use it on any ubu machine i/my friend's have
[10:32] <Treenaks> If you use Ubuntu One on a "new" Ubuntu machine, it will send you to a login page
[10:33] <Treenaks> After the login page, you will need to confirm that that machine has access to your U1 account
[10:33] <Treenaks> then everything just works
[10:33] <Treenaks> also, give your friend a separate account - you can share files between accounts easily :)
[10:35] <freakabcd> umm.. and how does it work? i.e. I specify a dir as my U1 main folder ?
[10:35] <Treenaks> There's ~/Ubuntu\ One
[10:35] <Treenaks> that's your "main" folder
[10:35] <Treenaks> and you can select other folders for sharing using nautilus
[10:35] <Treenaks> (= the file manager)
[10:35] <freakabcd> also can i have shared_public, shared_group and private folders/files ?
[10:36] <Treenaks> Files are private by default, you can share with people (don't know about groups)
[10:36] <freakabcd> i mean on the cloud.. not just the local acls
[10:36] <Treenaks> and there's public sharing
[10:36] <duanedesign> freakabcd: you can share a file with a public URL
[10:36] <freakabcd> i mean can i specify a folder to be shared with some other users, but not everyone ?
[10:37] <duanedesign> and share a folder with fellow U1 users
[10:37] <freakabcd> i.e. something like .htaccess in apache
[10:37] <Treenaks> freakabcd: not as detailed as htaccess, but you can share specific files/folders with specific users, and/or the whole world (publically)
[10:39] <freakabcd> umm.. and my friend said to look at dropbox and spideroak as well.
[10:40] <freakabcd> since i've never used any of these facilities, i'm not sure what i'm looking for.. but essentially i'm looking for some encrypted storage and sharing (which isn't just private/global)
[10:40] <Treenaks> they don't integrate with Ubuntu quite as nicely :)
[10:40] <Treenaks> also, they don't have an awesome music store :)
[10:40] <freakabcd> well, i'm not after music or just ubu integration. i use windows and other distros at work
[10:41] <freakabcd> anyway, if i signup, and use it for a while and then i decide to use one of the other services, can i ask for the account to be deleted?
[10:41] <freakabcd> i wouldn't want to be wasting space
[10:47] <duanedesign> freakabcd: here is a nice thread on encrypting data while using dropbox Ubuntu One
[10:47] <duanedesign> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8517221
[11:30] <freakabcd> duanedesign: cool.. thats pretty much what i was looking for.. guess i'll give both U1 and dropbox a go.. thanks
[11:48] <PaulGit> Is anybody else getting an Oops logging into the U1 Web UI this morning?
[11:51] <PaulGit> It appears to be related to the Dashboard :9
[12:06] <rye> couchdb is down
[12:30] <duanedesign> hello rye
[12:32] <duanedesign> PaulGit: yes you are right. https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ works fine. it is just https://one.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <PaulGit> duanedesign: Hi, not sure what is up.  I will head over to LP and submit a bug shortly.
[12:34] <PaulGit> duanedesign: Does the same on edge.one.ubuntu.com also.
[12:35] <rye> duanedesign, already pinged losas :(
[12:36] <rye> duanedesign, i have a nagios script that checks couchdb nearly ready, just need to find out how to get oauth tokens
[12:36] <rye> PaulGit, couchdb is down
[12:36] <PaulGit> rye: Mmm, I wonder if that explains my gwibber issues too!  Thanks
[12:37] <rye> PaulGit, replication for couchd is broken, phone sync, dashboard, notes and contacts, note syncing is down
[12:37] <rye> grrr, LOSA!!!
[12:37] <PaulGit> rye: Ahh, I won't continue with my contacts testing then!
[12:51] <rye> losas restarted the couchdb service
[12:56] <rye> couchdb is temporarily brought down to confirm the issue
[13:06] <rye> PaulGit, duanedesign, couchdb is back up and additional monitoring script is now installed
[13:07] <PaulGit> rye: Thanks for letting us now.
[14:25] <duanedesign> rye: i have a couple of files that I deleted some time ago that are now showing up on the new webUI. They are greyed out and I am unable to do anything them. http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/U1.dashboard.SS.png
[16:56] <mhall119> hey, I was having a discussion about a possible port of Steam to Linux, is there any thoughts on making a game deliver client for Ubuntu One, kind of like the music store?
[17:05] <duanedesign> hello mhall119
[17:07] <duanedesign> mhall119: most the developers are not on during the weekends. You can usually catch them on weekdays between 13:00-21:00 GMT
[17:08] <mhall119> thanks
[17:20] <rye> duanedesign, the greyed-out files are the files that were left in uploaded state but haven't uploaded - the legends say that there was such kind of issue with older client version (and waaay older than karmic)
[17:27] <duanedesign> rye: do you know i might get rid of them?
[17:28] <rye> duanedesign, they will be cleaned up by ubuntuone staff
[17:29] <rye> duanedesign, these files are the files that were made by MakeFile() call, but no content was delivered to the server
[17:29] <duanedesign> ohhh, ok I see
[17:29] <rye> duanedesign, so basically we'll need to wait until corresponding query is run
[17:40] <duanedesign> rye: i am hoping to have a GUI for my 'packageSync' application done this weekend. I was getting so many good ideas for files to sync it was time to add a checklist instead of a series of Y or N questions
[17:41] <duanedesign> Since it is growing beyond syncing dpkg selections I will have to rename it too
[17:46] <rye> duanedesign, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneConf
[17:49] <duanedesign> rye: how did you find that?
[17:50] <duanedesign> rye: I think that is where the wiki page I made will come in handy
[17:50] <duanedesign> so the community can benefit from one anothers work and not duplicate effort
[17:50] <rye> duanedesign, frankly speaking - i don't remember but I have visited that page earlier so when you mentioned that it rang a bell
[17:53] <duanedesign> rye: i was mainly curious if he came around here. I will email him and introduce myself. Hopefully we can collaborate
[18:54] <Syco> Hi guys, I've just upgraded to 10.04, set up an ubuntu one account and I click on the ubuntu one app in prefrences and it doesn't let me add my computer, is there somewhere else I can go?  I try throught he site and all it tells me is to install the application which I already have :(
[18:55] <Syco> honk
[18:56] <rye> Syco, have you set up ubuntuone account before 10.04?
[18:56] <Syco> No, I hadn't
[18:56] <rye> Syco, ok, so right now you have ubuntuone-preferences application running, right?
[18:57] <Syco> Well, not right now, I can re-open it
[18:57] <Syco> I just click on "Ubuntu One" in preferences right?
[18:57] <Syco> I have "unknown" for account, e-mail and plan in it
[18:58] <Syco> Could it be that I have Chrome set as default browser?
[18:59] <rye> Syco, we had problems with Opera, but chrome worked ok... is there Device tab in ubuntuone preferences and do you have 'connect' button in it?
[18:59] <rye> let me check chrome.. you are using chrome, not chromium, right?
[18:59] <rye> Syco, ^
[19:00] <Syco> Chrome, yes
[19:00] <Syco> There is a device tab and there is a connect button, I just clicked it
[19:01] <Syco> It took me to the ubuntu one page the same one I get when I click "manage account"
[19:02] <Syco> I click "View the machines connected to this account" and I get "You haven't added any computers or devices to your Ubuntu One account. To get started please visit the installation details."
[19:02] <rye> Syco, ok, it should ask you to add your machine
[19:02] <Syco> if I click that it just tells me to install the client which I already have
[19:04] <rye> Syco, when you click 'connect' button it should bring the page that has 'Add your machine' with a text entry box that lists the hostname of your computer. What page do you get instead, could you please copy the title?
[19:05] <Syco> OK, I closed and re-opened, clicked connect and it took me nowhere
[19:05] <Syco> pretty sure it took me to http://one.ubuntu.com/account before though
[19:06] <Syco> Should I try setting firefox to the default browser and try again?
[19:06] <rye> Syco, ok, - quick fix - open the terminal and run u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login
[19:07] <rye> Syco, then you will open preferences and connect button should work. I am checking now how it works with clean system... it does not look like it is reliable :(
[19:07] <Syco> ok, I've run that
[19:07] <Syco> ooo
[19:07] <Syco> it looks like it's working
[19:08] <Syco> waiting ... waiting...
[19:08] <Syco> wewt, thanks!
[19:08] <Syco> Is there a chrome plugin in the works to backup bookmarks?
[19:11] <Syco> And, sorry for the questions, but are any folders by default shared with it or do I need to manually set them?
[19:11] <rye> Syco, the default sync folder is Ubuntu One in your home directory, you can add more folders though
[19:11] <Syco> great
[19:11] <Syco> was hoping it wasn't my whole home folder is all, I keep a messy collection :)
[19:11] <rye> There was initial work for chromium plugin but i am not really sure it has succeeded much
[19:12] <Syco> oh ok
[19:12] <Syco> I don't really want to go back to firefox, it's gotten too bloated for me heh
[19:12] <Syco> thanks a lot for your help, it's now working!
[19:12] <Syco> have a good day/night and if you're aussie "Lest we forget"
[19:12] <rye> Syco, you might also want to know that currently ubuntuone is very sensitive to the _number_ of files you are syncing.
[19:12] <Syco> Oh
[19:12] <Syco> higher the worse?
[19:13] <rye> Syco, 1000 files/folders are ok, but if you have more then it will be not as fast.
[19:13] <Syco> I really just want to sync text files with information I can't lose, things like bank account login numbers (but not passwords), M$ keys etc etc
[19:13] <Syco> and the odd photo probably
[19:13] <rye> Syco, ah, that's fine
[19:14] <Syco> Thanks again for the help!
[19:14] <Syco> Have a good day/night :)
[19:14] <rye> Syco, thanks for heads up about chromium :)
[20:04] <duanedesign> rye: strange, have you been able to reproduce the ubuntuone-login bug?
[20:15] <rye> duanedesign, no, it does open chromium & chrome in this case but it looks like when you failed to authenticate/closed the browser it won't let you do it agaain since it is waiting for oauth info state
[21:02] <cviniciusm> Hello.
[21:03] <cviniciusm> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx RC 64 Bit.
[21:03] <cviniciusm> I'm not able to add my computer to Ubuntu One.
[21:03] <cviniciusm> Is there a command to do that, please?
[21:04] <duanedesign> hello cviniciusm
[21:04] <cviniciusm> Hi.
[21:04] <duanedesign> you have signed up for an account and now you just need to aqdd your computer?
[21:06] <cviniciusm> Yes, I have an account, the first time I used Ubuntu One, the NoScript plugin blocked the page to add computer. And now, I don't know how to add my computer.
[21:06] <cviniciusm> I have uninstalled NoScript plugin.
[21:06] <duanedesign> cviniciusm: you should just be able to open Ubuntu One from the Me Menu or Preferences
[21:07] <duanedesign> and when you click connect it takes you to the website to add your computer
[21:07] <duanedesign> if it is not there is an easy fix
[21:07] <cviniciusm> No, when I click to connect nothing happens.
[21:07] <duanedesign> ok
[21:07] <duanedesign> Close the preferences window
[21:08] <duanedesign> open a Terminal and run the following command:
[21:08] <duanedesign> u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login
[21:08] <duanedesign> then you will open preferences and connect button should work.
[21:09] <cviniciusm> $ u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login ubuntuone-syncdaemon stopped.
[21:09] <duanedesign> yep
[21:10] <cviniciusm> Nop yet.
[21:10] <duanedesign> then open Ubuntu One and click connect and the browser should open the site
[21:10] <cviniciusm> The account tab is empty. It should shows my account information?
[21:11] <cviniciusm> Should it shows my account information?
[21:11] <duanedesign> not till you add your computer
[21:11] <cviniciusm> unfortunaly, no.
[21:11] <duanedesign> it says <local machine>
[21:12] <cviniciusm> yes, <LOCAL MACHINE> .
[21:12] <duanedesign> what does the command: xdg-open http://one.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <duanedesign> do
[21:13] <duanedesign> that should open the Ubuntu One website in your browser
[21:14] <cviniciusm> nothing happens.
[21:14] <duanedesign> what is your default browser?
[21:15] <cviniciusm> sorry, it opens the Ubuntu One Dashboard.
[21:15] <duanedesign> System > Preferences > Preferred Application
[21:15] <duanedesign> oh ok
[21:16] <cviniciusm> I was logged on it before, so I was confused.
[21:16] <duanedesign> can you go to Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[21:18] <duanedesign>  Click on the arrow next to "Passwords" and look for Ubuntu One Token
[21:18] <cviniciusm> netstat -tlnp shows me the port tcp/40269 and tcp/42500, which tcp/40269 is the ubuntuone-login .
[21:19] <cviniciusm> If I open localhost:40269 on the browser, it shows a dialog page with "administrator" subject and username and password to login.
[21:22] <duanedesign> cviniciusm: did you see an Ubuntu One Token under Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[21:22] <cviniciusm> If I click Dashboard tab, the appers a page with 500 error.
[21:23] <duanedesign> cviniciusm: yeah they have been working on that today
[21:24] <cviniciusm> No, the only Ubuntu One that I see is on System -> Preferences -> Ubuntu One.
[21:25] <duanedesign> this would be Passwords and Encryption Keys
[21:25] <duanedesign> in the Applications menu
[21:29] <cviniciusm> I have the following packages installed: python-ubuntuone, python-ubuntuone-client, python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol, rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store, ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-client-gnome .
[21:33] <duanedesign> if you have an Ubuntu One Token in 'Passwords and Encryption Keys' that might be why you are not able to add your computer
[21:34] <duanedesign> Passwords and Encryption Keys is installed by default under the Applications > Accessories menu
[21:49] <cviniciusm> Hello,
[21:49] <cviniciusm> I was logged off because wrong authentication on freenode.
[21:50] <cviniciusm> Thanks for the help.
[21:50] <cviniciusm> Bye.
[22:44] <NateW1> how can i delete a share with another ubuntuone user?
[23:05] <duffydack> oo, liking the new dashboard
[23:06] <duffydack> NateW1, is it on the webpage/dashboard ?
[23:38] <NateW1> duffydack: sorry.. its in the files tab
[23:41] <topyli> i'm having problems with the new files tab, using epiphany
[23:58] <NateW1> i have a share that was between me and another user. how do i remove it from my ubuntuone account?
[23:59] <mattgriffin> Nafallo: did you create the share?
[23:59] <mattgriffin> NateW1: sorry... did you create the share?
[23:59] <mattgriffin> Nafallo: sorry. wrong nick :)