[00:03] <ion> It handles multiple programs wanting to interact with the user simultaneously.
[02:37] <markl_> ion: i see, hopefully i can dpkg -r it
[02:43] <ion> Sure, if you’re willing to remove mountall along with it, and upstart along with mountall. Assuming you’re running Ubuntu.
[03:00] <markl_> i don't need mountall but apparently i do need upstart
[03:00] <markl_> i need to boot up without a console
[03:05] <markl_> this is a weird dependency, why can't i use upstart without plymouth and mountall?
[03:06] <markl_> this is definitely a house of cards, hmm
[03:07] <Keybuk> yes, boot is a great big house of cards
[03:07] <Keybuk> so careful with those matches!
[03:13] <markl_> heh
[03:14] <markl_> i'll just give the tablecloth a yank
[03:14] <markl_> which is pretty much a good description of openvz's boot process i guess :)
[03:17] <markl_> does initctl emit ever time out if there's no response?
[03:19] <markl_> i at least got it to a 0 runlevel instead of unknown, i think i'm almost there
[03:24] <Keybuk> no response?
[03:24] <Keybuk> you'll always get a response from init
[03:24] <Keybuk> (unless init dies, in which case the kernel will PANIC :p)
[03:36] <Keybuk> of course
[03:36] <Keybuk> if the task started by your event doesn't complete
[03:37] <Keybuk> that response may come as a result of the heat death of the universe
[03:37] <Keybuk> but that's a response too
[03:37] <Keybuk> albeit a final one
[03:54] <markl_> heh
[04:06] <markl_> ah, it was the console output statement
[04:06]  * markl_ smacks forehead
[04:07] <markl_> so are these things like getty supposed to be easy to disable like it was with inittab?
[04:08] <markl_> or should i make my own upstart package?  that wouldn't be too painful
[04:10] <ion> Comment out the “start on...” line.
[11:21] <Will|> lo
[20:59] <archayl> hello
[21:00] <archayl> how am i supposed to make a script to startup my vbox vm?
[21:01] <archayl> and save the state, then close it on shutdown?
[21:31] <archayl> nvm
[21:31] <archayl> tq
[21:54] <Will|> is it possible to have a script run when upstart witnesses an abnormal exit?
[21:54] <Will|> or when a respawn-limit is hit