[01:00] <gduarte> ogra: are you there?
[01:03] <gduarte> someonte interested in a pre-built VM  of Ubuntu karmic to compile/build/whatever your projects?
[01:03] <gduarte> *someone
[01:04] <gduarte> :S
[01:05] <gduarte> if someone wants it
[01:05] <gduarte> there is http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2
[01:05] <gabrield> enjoy
[03:18] <ojn> Nice work on getting beagle going, guys.
[03:19] <ojn> Since OMAP can handle multi-board kernels, are there any plans on enabling some of the other options? ZOOM2/3 and gumstix are the ones that come to mind.   And/or who should I hassle about defconfig updates on those? :)
[03:19] <ojn> s/on those/for those/
[03:35] <Martyn> ojn : You back in town?
[03:35] <Martyn> _and_ are you going to Brussels?
[03:38] <ojn> Martyn: I am out in CA and no, I don't think I am going to Brussels.
[03:39] <Martyn> crap
[03:39] <Martyn> Well, perhaps I'll get lucky and get a hold of a lange debug cable out at UDS
[03:39] <ojn> I'll be back on Friday. When is UDS?
[03:39] <Martyn> Yes .. I'm _still_ trying to reflash that damned lange board, even though I have three tegra2 boards, and more Cortex-A9 action than a small manufacturer
[03:40] <Martyn> I'll be out in europe from May 6 - 17th
[03:40] <ojn> 'k. I can probably drop something off (in NORTH austin) on the weekend. I don't know if I'm just home over the weekend or for the week yet. Too hard to plan much right now, given recent events
[03:44] <ojn> Martyn: Why are you picking up competitor's boards, btw? I thought you guys were developing your own SoC? Or have you switched to a plan B?
[03:45] <Martyn> Because I hack them apart, and turn them into what I need
[03:45] <Martyn> and I learn from them, of course
[03:45] <Martyn> Making linux better, faster, harder.
[03:45] <Martyn> (and in our case, much more power efficient on servers)
[03:45] <Martyn> nVidia is the first good example (tegra250) of a low power consumption A9 .. in a good process (45nm)
[03:46] <Martyn> I also recently got a quad-core A9 board from (undisclosable company)
[03:46] <ojn> Yeah, ok. It's just been my experience in the past that competing vendors are less than excited to sell you eval boards if you're going to compete. I guess you're aiming for different markets so they might be less restrictive.
[03:46] <Martyn> and that thing was made at Global Foundries .. in the 28nm process.   I think thats the way ARM chips will have to go.   2Ghz
[03:47] <Martyn> yeah, they don't care
[03:47] <Martyn> Or care much.  Also there are strategic alliances between our company and ARM that smooth the way
[03:47] <ojn> Yeah, it's a bit different than the PPC landscape
[03:47] <ojn> more small players too
[03:47] <ojn> etc
[11:40] <saeed> NCommander: ping
[12:20] <saeed> orga: hey
[13:20] <persia> saeed: Unless it's a private matter of some sort, you might ask a question generally.  No promises anyone can answer, but maybe :)
[13:21] <saeed> persia: hey
[13:21]  * saeed recalls what I wanted to ask 
[13:22] <saeed> persia: I've prepare cofnig file for the fw_printenv
[13:22] <saeed> for dove db
[13:22] <persia> And you want to share it in hopes it gets into Ubuntu?
[13:23] <persia> I'd recommend filing a bug and attaching it.  That's usually the best way to track that sort of thing.
[13:23] <saeed> ok
[13:24] <saeed> peria: the fw config file is board specific
[13:24] <saeed> does the ubuntu loads the proper file depending on the board it runs on?
[13:25] <persia> I don't know offhand, but I suspect it can be made to do so.
[13:26] <persia> If it doesn't already, I'm unsure if the release managers would let it be made to do so for release in geneal, but it may be possible to do something special for just the dove image.
[13:27] <saeed> ok
[13:28] <saeed> btw, I fixed the slow ext2load in uboot, now it can load image + initrd in just 2 seconds
[13:28] <saeed> from sata
[13:39] <persia> Cool!
[13:40] <persia> I was looking at QNAP's server lineups yesterday, and building greater and greater anticipation for something that does ARMv7 :)
[14:11] <lool> saeed: ATM, we generate a config file during installation
[14:11] <lool> saeed: fast ext2load > cool!
[14:12] <saeed> lool: great, I'll upload the dove db config file
[14:13] <lool> saeed: apt-get source flash-kernel, see debian/flash-kernel-installer.postinst
[14:13] <lool> that's what it does for beagleboard ATM at least
[14:33] <saeed> lool: how should I report a bug for the flash-kernel? in launchpad it's said theat flash-kernel does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker
[14:35] <gabrield> ogra: did you see the changes at ARM/RootfsFromScratch?
[14:36] <lool> saeed: You need to report it against the Ubuntu package
[14:36] <lool> saeed: From an ubuntu system with flash-kernel, "ubuntu-bug flash-kernel"
[14:36] <persia> saeed: You need to use flash-kernel (Ubuntu): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flash-kernel/+bugs.  The easiest way is probably `ubuntu-bug flash-kernel`
[18:37] <NCommander> saeed: pong
[20:28] <samuel_Sayag> hi,
[20:28] <samuel_Sayag> I'm looking for consol image displayer
[20:28] <samuel_Sayag> is there such a program ?
[20:34] <persia> Not really, on the raw console.
[20:34] <persia> svgalib can do some stuff like that.
[20:34] <persia> But that's accessing the framebuffer, rather than the console, as such.
[20:44] <samuel_Sayag> and what if i only load the X, can I then load just an Image ?
[20:44] <samuel_Sayag> I remmber that on the dos i had some image viewers ...
[20:51] <DanaG> mplayer can access framebuffer.
[20:56] <persia> vlc has an svgalib plugin as well.  zgv seems to be a dedicated image viewer.
[21:49] <jkridner> I finally tried the beagleboard netbook install today.
[21:49] <jkridner> I need to run to get a flash drive still.
[21:51] <persia> jkridner: How did it work for you?
[21:51] <jkridner> Despite the warnings, I tried to partition the installation disk (SD card) with the installer, but it complained about not being able to unmount /cdrom.  I thought it might stop me, but in creating the layout, but it didn't fail until the actual install attempt.
[21:51] <jkridner> Going to see if I can find a nice USB flash drive now to use.
[21:52] <jkridner> not sure exactly how that will work.
[21:52] <jkridner> since u-boot doesn't currently read from USB flash drives.
[21:52] <persia> No, it lets you shoot yourself in the foot to enable careful aim for large shoes.  If you happen to have partitioned the SD card in a way that has an *extra* partition separate from the area used for the installer, you can use that for data.
[21:53] <persia> The common method seems to be to boot from SD card with boot options that mount / on a USB drive.
[21:53] <jkridner> it seemed to let me specify one, but the install failed.
[21:53] <persia> rotary drives work too, if you're just playing around.
[21:53] <jkridner> if rotary drives were smaller, that'd probably be the way I'd go.
[21:53] <jkridner> just that I'm on the road.
[21:53] <persia> The install to your install-SD bit might still be a bit buggy.  I'm not sure many people use it, and I think only one or two people are looking at it (and not very agressively).
[21:54] <persia> Yeah, if you're travelling, flash is nice and compact :)
[21:55] <persia> I did an install once to one of the USB in-plug microSD readers, which worked, which almost looks like you don't have something attached.
[21:55] <persia> (although that was on a different board, but similar situation)
[21:55] <jkridner> know anywhere to pick one up near the San Jose Convention Center?
[21:58] <persia> Sorry, no.
[22:00] <DanaG> san jose?  isn't there a "fry's" around there somewhere?
[22:01] <jkridner> there is.
[22:01] <jkridner> just wanting something in walking distance
[22:02] <DanaG> ah.
[22:02] <DanaG> you could ask google-maps for electronics stores.
[22:04] <persia> Doesn't have anything within 30 minutes walk (already tried that)
[22:14] <DanaG> Dang.