| saint_ | Raidsong, ping | 00:28 |
|---|---|---|
| Raidsong | hi saint_ | 00:29 |
| saint_ | hey isnt whube channel #whube? | 00:29 |
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| === Guest17119 is now known as guest_saint | ||
| guest_saint | Raidsong, ping | 00:32 |
| Raidsong | hello guest_saint | 00:32 |
| guest_saint | Raidsong, wats whube channel name? | 00:32 |
| Raidsong | guest_saint, #whube | 00:33 |
| Bodsda | Raidsong: know much about links? | 00:35 |
| Raidsong | Bodsda, a bit | 00:35 |
| Bodsda | Raidsong: I'm confused about hard vs soft links - which one do I need if I want to make a chnage to the link to actually happen to the destination file? | 00:36 |
| Raidsong | Bodsda, i think you need a hard link | 00:37 |
| Bodsda | Raidsong: sweet cheers - just found a good explanation on linux forums as well :) | 00:38 |
| === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 | ||
| electrickery | I am new to IRC, so don't if this will work.. I am using Jaunty, and Firefox. I have tried to install Flash. It appears in the AddOn list ok. But Australian ABC iView doesn't play. Does anyone know about this? | 05:18 |
| ddecator | electrickery: 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu? | 05:22 |
| Ukebuntu | greets, gurus! | 05:30 |
| ddecator | hey Ukebuntu | 05:31 |
| Ukebuntu | I'm an IT guy pretty fluent in Mac and PC, and I'm on my first taste of Linux | 05:31 |
| Ukebuntu | I have a bunch of quick questions | 05:31 |
| ddecator | welcome =) | 05:31 |
| ddecator | what are they? | 05:31 |
| Ukebuntu | thanks | 05:31 |
| Ukebuntu | most of them are, "well....what do you guys call it?" | 05:31 |
| Ukebuntu | I'm on Jaunty Jackelope (because the Koala ISO is larger than a CD....*grumble, grumble*) | 05:32 |
| ddecator | karmic is? it shouldn't be | 05:33 |
| Ukebuntu | it's 705 | 05:33 |
| Ukebuntu | either way.... | 05:33 |
| Ukebuntu | I've gotten my wireless to work (although I'm not too pleased by the process because I stumbled my way through by restarting a bunch of times)j | 05:34 |
| Ukebuntu | what is 'device manager'? | 05:34 |
| Ukebuntu | I had to 'activate' my wireless card, how can I check if there are other pieces of hardware that need this done? | 05:35 |
| ddecator | Ukebuntu: the .iso is 690MB for me. the "activation" was most likely the proprietary driver. you can find other drivers by going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers | 05:36 |
| Ukebuntu | Is there an idiot proof overall 'update', that I can get Koala through, now that I have Jaunty installed | 05:36 |
| ddecator | yes, the Update Manager should tell you that Karmic is available and allow you to update | 05:37 |
| Ukebuntu | where can I find Update Manager? | 05:37 |
| ddecator | it runs routinely on its own, but you can start it by going to System > Administration > Update Manager | 05:38 |
| Ukebuntu | Hardware Drivers only has my broadcom wireless listed | 05:38 |
| Ukebuntu | is there a way to see everything? | 05:38 |
| ddecator | then you should be all set with drivers =) | 05:38 |
| ddecator | see everything as in...? | 05:39 |
| Ukebuntu | all my installed hardware | 05:40 |
| ddecator | if you open a terminal and run 'lspci' it will list your hardware | 05:41 |
| Ukebuntu | haha | 05:41 |
| Ukebuntu | beat me to it | 05:41 |
| pedro3005 | maybe sudo lshw | 05:41 |
| Ukebuntu | I know how to get around a bit in unix | 05:41 |
| Ukebuntu | I imagined that linux would have a fat icon on the desktop for term | 05:41 |
| ddecator | afaik, there isn't a graphical way to list all of your hardware in one place, but some of it is listed in various places | 05:42 |
| pedro3005 | probably is, just not by default | 05:42 |
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| ddecator | true | 05:43 |
| Ukebuntu | ok.....I've got plenty to look around in now that I have a terminal, mind if we go to "peeves"? | 05:44 |
| Ukebuntu | why aren't the apple keys working, even though I picked "apple laptop"? | 05:45 |
| Ukebuntu | vol works | 05:45 |
| Ukebuntu | numlock works | 05:45 |
| ddecator | you mean the super key? | 05:45 |
| Ukebuntu | how about brightness and eject? | 05:46 |
| Ukebuntu | Function keys | 05:46 |
| Ukebuntu | aha, question answered....F12 is 'right click' | 05:46 |
| Ukebuntu | not terribly convenient, but I'll go with it for now... | 05:47 |
| Ukebuntu | how about my other F keys? | 05:48 |
| Ukebuntu | and eject for that matter | 05:48 |
| ddecator | hm, my function keys have worked for me, but i'm not on a mac. not sure about eject | 05:49 |
| Ukebuntu | unfortunately, a bunch of my questions are PB G4 specific | 05:50 |
| Ukebuntu | I can eject it by opening the whatever music player... | 05:50 |
| ddecator | rhythmbox? | 05:51 |
| Ukebuntu | well, whatever | 05:51 |
| Ukebuntu | I can eject it through progs | 05:51 |
| Ukebuntu | is there a way to do it through the 'eject key' that apples have? | 05:52 |
| Ukebuntu | or even the 'drag to trash' option? | 05:52 |
| === Guest75058 is now known as znxtch | ||
| Ukebuntu | this wouldn't be a big deal if I had a physical button... | 05:54 |
| electrickery | ddecator: Don't reckon.. Acer Aspire 3000 AMD Sempron 2800 I'll try to find out. | 05:57 |
| Ukebuntu | I'm running the update manager now, but, ddecator, I am much obliged, friend | 05:58 |
| Ukebuntu | thank you for your help and patience | 05:58 |
| ddecator | Ukebuntu: no problem =) | 05:58 |
| Ukebuntu | I'm assuming that these updates will have me restart again.... | 05:58 |
| ddecator | sorry i'm not more familiar with mac-specific functionality | 05:58 |
| ddecator | Ukebuntu: i would imagine | 05:59 |
| ddecator | there should be a new kernel with the update | 05:59 |
| Ukebuntu | well, to be honest, after a while, I will make this powerbook a Mac again | 05:59 |
| Ukebuntu | it just so happens to be a 'free laptop' at the moment, so I figured I'd mess with linux | 06:00 |
| ddecator | since you're a mac user, you may find ubuntu lucid to be more familiar | 06:00 |
| Ukebuntu | that's the next one coming out? | 06:01 |
| ddecator | it's due to be released on the 29th | 06:01 |
| Ukebuntu | whoa | 06:01 |
| Ukebuntu | just noticed.... | 06:01 |
| Ukebuntu | these powerbooks run very hot when running OSX | 06:02 |
| Ukebuntu | it is VERY hot now | 06:02 |
| Ukebuntu | got a temp mon prog? | 06:02 |
| znxtch | I find my macbook runs cooler when I use Ubuntu. | 06:03 |
| znxtch | OS X its on FIRE! | 06:03 |
| ddecator | install 'lm-sensors' and you can read the temperature various ways. conky is a popular tool for getting a lot of info about the system, including temp | 06:03 |
| ddecator | conky isn't installed by default | 06:04 |
| Ukebuntu | so.... | 06:04 |
| Ukebuntu | what's my next step, deca? | 06:04 |
| znxtch | stick a thermometer into your usb drive | 06:04 |
| znxtch | thats how I do it | 06:05 |
| znxtch | oldschool | 06:05 |
| ddecator | since you don't have the software center, you can run 'sudo apt-get install lm-sensors conky' | 06:05 |
| Ukebuntu | I already ate all of the mercury from my thermometers | 06:05 |
| Ukebuntu | X) | 06:05 |
| electrickery | ddecator: The Users Guide doesn't mention 64bit. Can Jaunty tell me? System Monitor doesn't, as far as I can see. | 06:05 |
| Ukebuntu | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 06:07 |
| Ukebuntu | I suppose the update manager won't let me run that command, deca | 06:07 |
| ddecator | Ukebuntu: oh, right, that needs to finish first | 06:07 |
| ddecator | electrickery: one sec, i'm trying to think of the best way to figure out which you are using.. | 06:08 |
| Ukebuntu | I'm eventually going to have to restart anyway, deca, so I'm going to go out to catch a smoke | 06:09 |
| geirha | electrickery: in a terminal: file /bin/bash | 06:09 |
| Ukebuntu | I really appreciate the help, | 06:10 |
| Ukebuntu | I hope to see you when I eventually get back! | 06:10 |
| Ukebuntu | X) | 06:10 |
| ddecator | electrickery: or type 'uname -m' in a terminal and tell us the output | 06:11 |
| electrickery | /bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped | 06:11 |
| geirha | electrickery: You have 32-bit ubuntu installed | 06:12 |
| ddecator | alright, 32-bit it is =) | 06:12 |
| ddecator | electrickery: what was the issue you were having again? | 06:12 |
| electrickery | I have tried to install Flash for Firefox It seems to install, Firefos has it in its Add On list, but this site won't work http://www.abc.net.au/iview/ and it is a favourite. | 06:13 |
| ddecator | heh, i can't view it because it's australia only...can you get to the page where the program should play? | 06:16 |
| shahan | hi everyone | 06:17 |
| shahan | need help to install a game | 06:17 |
| shahan | Sauerbraten | 06:17 |
| electrickery | Hmmm, I didn't realise it was restricted. That site opens a flash (I suppose) menu that offers ABC tv programs to view. | 06:18 |
| ddecator | electrickery: how did you install flash? | 06:18 |
| electrickery | I get to it by clicking on iView at this link http://www.abc.net.au/ | 06:18 |
| ddecator | shahan: what kind of game is that? | 06:18 |
| shahan | any one here who can help me to install the game | 06:18 |
| shahan | ddecator: hmm | 06:19 |
| shahan | ddecator: sauerbraten_2009_05_04_trooper_edition_linux.tar_2.bz2 | 06:19 |
| electrickery | I installed flash through Synaptic Package Manager. | 06:19 |
| shahan | ddecator: I have kept the game on my desktop now | 06:19 |
| shahan | ddecator: its ubuntu 9.10 | 06:19 |
| shahan | ddecator: desktop edition 32 bit | 06:19 |
| ddecator | electrickery: does the site load for you alright after you click iView? | 06:19 |
| ddecator | shahan: looks like it's in the repos | 06:20 |
| shahan | ddecator: I dont know | 06:20 |
| ddecator | shahan: shows up for me =) | 06:20 |
| shahan | ddecator: I have downloaded the game from the site | 06:20 |
| shahan | ddecator: its 344 MB | 06:20 |
| shahan | ddecator: ok | 06:21 |
| electrickery | No.. that is what I think the problem is. The link needs Flash to run, and although it seems to be installed, the flash menu doesn't work. | 06:21 |
| ddecator | electrickery: hm, it's loading for me...are you using firefox? | 06:21 |
| ddecator | shahan: if you don't mind downloading it again, you can install it from the repos, which will be easiest. otherwise you can extract the tar.bz2 source and look for a shell script in there that runs it | 06:22 |
| ddecator | electrickery: ha, just noticed you already said that. what version of firefox are you using? | 06:22 |
| shahan | ddecator: :( again download is imposible.. my speed is too poor | 06:22 |
| shahan | ddecator: I have to install it now using this downloaded file | 06:22 |
| ddecator | shahan: ok, well right click and select 'Extract here' | 06:23 |
| electrickery | Yes, v 3.0.19. I know most web pages use flash, but is there a specific test I can do? | 06:23 |
| ddecator | electrickery: if you go to youtube, do videos play fine? | 06:23 |
| shahan | ddecator: I want a solution to install it ... | 06:23 |
| shahan | dd ddecator :( | 06:24 |
| ddecator | shahan: well there are various ways of working that out. there may be a .deb in there. if not, there may be a shell script that we can create a launcher for | 06:24 |
| shahan | ddecator: I have extracted the folder | 06:25 |
| ddecator | shahan: is there a .deb by chance? | 06:25 |
| shahan | ddeddno | 06:26 |
| shahan | ddecator: no | 06:26 |
| shahan | ddecator: folder list is | 06:26 |
| shahan | ddecator: bin_unix | 06:26 |
| shahan | ddecator: data | 06:26 |
| shahan | ddecator: docs | 06:26 |
| shahan | ddecator: packages | 06:26 |
| shahan | ddecator: src | 06:26 |
| ddecator | shahan: pastein please =) | 06:26 |
| ddecator | pastebin* | 06:27 |
| shahan | ddecator: ok | 06:29 |
| znxtch | whoa 10.04 takes 2 hrs just to install the updates | 06:33 |
| znxtch | i was like "allright the download is finished" | 06:33 |
| znxtch | begin install | 06:34 |
| znxtch | "time remaing two hours!" | 06:34 |
| znxtch | awww! | 06:34 |
| ddecator | to upgrade from karmic, or just to install some updates? | 06:34 |
| znxtch | upgrade from karmic | 06:34 |
| ddecator | heh, yah, a LOT needs to be upgraded | 06:34 |
| electrickery | ddecator: Well YouTube is sort of working. I'll have to look into it. I might have to leave this chat and return later. | 06:34 |
| znxtch | I was going to tinker with it before going to work. Looks like I'll have to wait. | 06:34 |
| ddecator | electrickery: that's fine. if you get a chance, can you let me know what you mean by "soft of working"? | 06:35 |
| ddecator | znxtch: probably good. if it finished in time, you'd call sick into work ;) | 06:35 |
| ddecator | s/soft/sort | 06:36 |
| znxtch | there is no sick where i work. | 06:38 |
| znxtch | lol | 06:38 |
| znxtch | is anyone in here a fan of mike patton by chance? | 06:38 |
| ddecator | ...maybe if i knew who he is | 06:38 |
| znxtch | disregard then | 06:38 |
| ddecator | heh, alright | 06:39 |
| electrickery | ddecator: I went to YouTube, clicked on Miley Cyrus "Pole Dancing". Firefox said it needed a plugin. It installed something like gstreamer-bad. Then the video played, with sound. But when I tried another video, it was not loading.. bit of sound with a static picture. Another video had a black screen. So strange. I have a good broadband connection usually, so that's all I can say just now, I think. | 06:39 |
| znxtch | miley cyrus "pole dancing" | 06:40 |
| znxtch | haha | 06:40 |
| znxtch | nice | 06:40 |
| ddecator | electrickery: hm, i guess it still needed gstreamer for the audio. what brand of graphics card do you have? | 06:41 |
| electrickery | It was worth a try. | 06:41 |
| electrickery | Err, whatever came with the Acer aspire.. "SiS M760GX"?? | 06:43 |
| ddecator | electrickery: if you run 'lspci' in a terminal, what shows up next to "VGA compatible controller"? (just the brand...nvidia, intel, etc.) | 06:45 |
| electrickery | The Eclipse trailer seems to be working. | 06:45 |
| electrickery | Silicon Integrated Systems | 06:46 |
| ddecator | o.o | 06:47 |
| ddecator | idk if that uses a proprietary driver or not... | 06:48 |
| ddecator | electrickery: if you go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, does anything show up that you need to activate for your graphics? | 06:48 |
| electrickery | Only one entry there, the broadcom wireless, which is activated and working. YouTube is playing movie trailers ok now. | 06:50 |
| ddecator | hm, ok, so you should have the driver you need | 06:51 |
| ddecator | i wonder if it's due to the versions of firefox and flash you have.. | 06:51 |
| electrickery | Maybe if I uninstall Flash then see if FFox finds the right version when I visit YouTube? | 06:53 |
| ddecator | i think the adobe site has a deb of the latest stable build, you can try that if you want. not sure if it will work or not | 06:55 |
| electrickery | OK, I'll see. Looks like I have a bit more work to do. I'll be back later. | 06:56 |
| ddecator | electrickery: sure thing | 06:56 |
| geirha | html5 can't come too soon | 06:57 |
| ddecator | i don't mind flash if adobe can get it working properly on linux | 06:58 |
| geirha | They've been failing quite a few years now | 06:59 |
| mitul | Hello.I need some help | 09:05 |
| mitul | anybody there? | 09:05 |
| ddecator | whatcha need? | 09:05 |
| mitul | I got ubuntu 9.10 installed as well as windows | 09:05 |
| mitul | I want to access ubuntu ext4 partitions from windows.. | 09:05 |
| mitul | I cannot read from explore2fs | 09:05 |
| ddecator | hm, i'm not sure off-hand what needs to be done for windows to recognize and play nice with ext4.. | 09:06 |
| ddecator | one sec | 09:06 |
| ddecator | mitul: unfortunately, i'm not finding any tools capable of allowing windows to read ext4 partitions. there seem to be a few that cover the basics of ext3, but the last one with decent compatibility was ext2 =\ | 09:11 |
| mitul | I got one.. | 09:14 |
| mitul | http://www.diskinternals.com/download/Linux_Recovery.exe | 09:14 |
| mitul | Thanks for the help.. | 09:14 |
| ddecator | mitul: no problem, good luck =) | 09:14 |
| ibuclaw | oldpeculiar, O|: | 09:44 |
| ibuclaw | btw, if anyone here uses the xorg-edgers repo, do NOT upgrade your system to the new git packages that have just entered it. | 09:44 |
| hobgoblin | broken a bit is it then ibuclaw | 09:47 |
| ibuclaw | hobgoblin, just a tad | 09:50 |
| hobgoblin | mine was a bit broken this morning for some reason - though there only appeared to be a console-setup upgrade though - that said it did boot properly afterwards | 09:51 |
| oldpeculiar | https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+index?start=75&batch=75 | 10:00 |
| oldpeculiar | package updates beyond 22/04/2010 | 10:01 |
| oldpeculiar | +git20100422.3de065d6-0ubuntu0sarvatt2 | 10:01 |
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| === mohi_away is now known as mohi1 | ||
| nhandler | PERL!!! | 16:40 |
| Votebot | PERL!!! | 16:40 |
| shahan | hello everybody | 17:28 |
| shahan | another problem | 17:29 |
| shahan | double kernal installed on my PC | 17:29 |
| shahan | 6.3.31-20 the latest one | 17:30 |
| shahan | with 6.3.31-14 | 17:30 |
| shahan | the older one installed with my setup of ubuntu 9.10 | 17:30 |
| shahan | but the new one installed when I updated the whole ubuntu (about a 250MB update) | 17:31 |
| shahan | now... when the PC starts both the kernel is shown in Grub list | 17:31 |
| shahan | I want to remove the older one from the GRUB list | 17:31 |
| shahan | how to do it | 17:31 |
| shahan | please help me | 17:31 |
| shahan | any body here who can help me about my problem? | 17:42 |
| geirha | I'm sure you mean 2.6.31-14 and 2.6.31-20 | 17:47 |
| geirha | System -> Administration -> Synaptic search for 2.6.31-14 and remove the linux-image and linux-headers packages that contain that version number. | 17:47 |
| shahan | geirha: yes you right | 17:48 |
| shahan | geirha: If I remove it will it make any problem? | 17:49 |
| geirha | No, I do that from time to time, though I usually keep the last two kernels around. In case the newest introduces some bug, I can switch to the previous. | 17:50 |
| shahan | geirha: hmm | 17:50 |
| shahan | geirha: please tell me the procedure again easily | 17:50 |
| shahan | geirha: I am not an advanced user.... | 17:50 |
| shahan | geirha: :( | 17:51 |
| geirha | Have you opened up Synaptic and searched for 2.6.31-14? | 17:51 |
| shahan | geirha: yes | 17:51 |
| geirha | Ok, and then there are several hits, of which some are installed (likely three of them) | 17:52 |
| geirha | Marked with a green square as opposed to white square in the theme I'm using. | 17:52 |
| shahan | geirha: only one green square | 17:53 |
| geirha | Ah ok, only the linux-image then? I also have linux-headers installed. | 17:53 |
| shahan | geirha: which is "linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic" | 17:54 |
| geirha | Right, so click that and choose mark for removal | 17:54 |
| shahan | geirha: removal or complete removal? | 17:54 |
| geirha | Just removal is fine. complete removal will also remove the config-files, but in the case of the kernel packages, there are no config files. | 17:55 |
| geirha | And then you click the Apply button at the toolbar at the top | 17:56 |
| shahan | geirha: will it remove from my Grub list(which is shown at startup of PC)? | 17:58 |
| starcraftman | ah ha, question while I was eating, thanks for responding geirha. | 17:58 |
| shahan | starcraftman: will it remove from my Grub List? | 17:59 |
| geirha | shahan: Yes, when a kernel is removed, it updates the list | 17:59 |
| starcraftman | shahan: yes it will, long as your removing the image and header files. | 17:59 |
| shahan | ok.... | 18:00 |
| shahan | let me restart the PC | 18:00 |
| shahan | will be back soon | 18:00 |
| starcraftman | geirha: new helper to the team? | 18:01 |
| geirha | starcraftman: No, I just hang around :) | 18:02 |
| shahan | geirha: tnx | 18:03 |
| shahan | geirha: now its look smart | 18:03 |
| shahan | geirha: where r u from? | 18:03 |
| geirha | shahan: Norway. You? | 18:04 |
| starcraftman | geirha: ah, alright, well all welcome. I'm just an old guy getting back to activity. | 18:04 |
| shahan | geirha: BANGLADESH | 18:05 |
| shahan | ok.. Good night everybody | 18:25 |
| shahan | its 11 25 PM | 18:25 |
| shahan | bye | 18:25 |
| hobgoblin | evening | 18:40 |
| frank1_ | anyone know a good program to fetch all the album art for my 300gb collection? | 23:30 |
| frank1_ | rhythmbox doesent seem to wanna work | 23:30 |
| Bodsda | frank1_: I used exaile for a while, which I think gathered album art quite well | 23:36 |
| frank1_ | ok ill look into that. kinda annoying to have 80gb of music on my ipod and have no album art | 23:37 |
| Bodsda | frank1_: youll probably have to compile it though as the ones in the repo's (9.04 i think) dont work | 23:37 |
| frank1_ | rhythmbox syncs quite well but wont fetch my friggin art | 23:37 |
| Bodsda | heh | 23:38 |
| frank1_ | using 9.10 | 23:38 |
| geirha | Which way does it fail? When copying to the ipod, or from the ipod? | 23:42 |
| frank1_ | it copies fine | 23:47 |
| frank1_ | it just does not allow me to search for album art | 23:47 |
| frank1_ | the option is selected but the link is grayed out | 23:48 |
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