/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/25/#ubuntu-manual.txt

IlyaHaykinsonoriginal font stack?01:18
IlyaHaykinsondejavu sans condensed, sans, verdana, arial01:18
humphreybchi everyone, what's crackin?03:20
godbykHey, humphreybc. not too much.03:28
godbykI'm trying to get the \screenshot command to remove a blank line it keeps inserting. (not sure why it's putting it there.)03:29
godbykHey, thorwil.  What problems are you having with the title page script?09:04
thorwilgodbyk: as said in the email, it doesn't replace the titles of the generated SVGs anymore09:05
thorwilso it remains "Getting Started ..." in all language versions09:06
godbykAh, I'll look at it.09:08
godbykI didn't get an email from you, though.09:08
* godbyk checks his spam folder...09:08
godbyk(I don't see anything in my spam folder, either.  Odd.)09:10
thorwilgodbyk: don't you use your at ubuntu-manual.org address?09:10
godbykthorwil: yeah, kevin@ubuntu-manual.org should forward to godbyk@gmail.com09:11
thorwilgodbyk: 2 emails got lost, then09:11
godbykgreat.09:11
* thorwil sends both again, to the other address09:13
godbykI got the ones you just sent.09:13
godbykNot sure what black hole the originals fell into.09:13
* thorwil sends Test email09:15
humphreybchi guyes09:16
humphreybcguys, even09:16
godbykhey, humphreybc09:16
thorwilhi humphreybc09:16
godbykthorwil: I found the problem.09:24
godbykThe template SVGs that you modified are using the old-style figures instead of lining figures.09:24
godbykBut the script runs the find/replace against the title string with lining figures.09:24
godbyklet me test my theory real quick and then I'll commit the fix.09:26
thorwilgodbyk: if you replace the figures in the templates, copy them to have "en" version, first, please09:28
godbykthorwil: That fixed it.  I've pushed a fix.  I just updated the SVGs to use lining figures and the generator script works again.09:28
godbykThe figures get replaced with old-style figures after the translation process, if that's what you're referring to.09:28
ubuntujenkinsmorning09:29
godbykmorning, ubuntujenkins09:29
thorwilgodbyk: ok, thanks. how do we handle the english version?09:29
humphreybcello09:29
thorwilmorning09:29
ubuntujenkinshello humphreybc godbyk and thorwil lots of people here today :)09:29
humphreybclol yup09:30
godbykthorwil: currently, it looks like my LaTeX code look for a file named 'titlepage/titlepage-LANGCODE.pdf'09:30
godbykif it fails to find that, then it falls back on either titlepage/title_page_a4_en.pdf or title_page_letter_en.pdf (depending on the paper size/language).09:30
godbykIf you want me to modify any of that code, just let me know.09:31
thorwilgodbyk: i see en_AU and en_GB, but no en_US. AU uses letter format?09:31
godbykI think that I have all the languages except US English set to use A4 paper, but let me double-check that.09:32
godbykThat appears to be the case.. all use A4 except en (US)09:32
thorwilgodbyk: there a single pdf checked in: titlepage_letter_en.pdf. can i delete that one?09:34
godbykhmm.. strange.09:35
godbykI don't see any files named title_page_a4_en.pdf or title_page_letter_en.pdf.09:36
godbykdid they ever exist?  or did I just make those up when I wrote this code?09:36
godbykthorwil: in any case, you can delete that file if you like.09:36
thorwilgodbyk: ugh. so maybe it isn't actually checked in. having so many ignore files in here confuses me09:36
godbykthorwil: if you you can provide me with a letter- and A4-sized English (US) version of the title page that I can have the code fall back on (when the translated version doesn't yet exist), that'd be good.  just let me know what the filenames are.09:37
thorwilgodbyk: can en_GB and en_AU be handled with a symlink?09:37
godbykthorwil: hmm.. probably.  though it might be a good idea to have pre-generated PDFs of those since they're rather hard-coded.09:38
thorwilgodbyk: actually, i'd like to have just "en" with A$ and "en_US" with letter, if you're ok with that09:39
ubuntujenkinssee you al later09:39
godbykthorwil: I'm not too picky. I just need to know which two PDFs (letter-size and A4-size) to fall back on when the translated copy doesn't exist.09:40
thorwilgodbyk: deleted that stray pdf, added en and en_US SVGs09:51
godbykcool.09:52
godbykI'll pull those and update my code.09:52
humphreybchttp://fullcirclemagazine.org/2010/04/24/full-circle-podcast-5-manual-dexterity/10:03
humphreybcPart 1 of my full circle magazine interview10:06
godbykI'm looking at the translations status.. when did Greek get so far ahead?10:06
godbykhumphreybc: it's in multiple parts? how long did you carry on for? :)10:06
humphreybc40 minutes :)10:07
* godbyk skips ahead to humphreybc's interview to see what lies he's told10:08
humphreybcwoah, Greek and German are kicking ass!10:08
humphreybcand Galician10:08
humphreybctoo bad Spanish probably won't be finished...10:08
humphreybcgodbyk: warning, my voice sounds a bit shit10:09
humphreybcwell, I reckon it does10:09
godbyklol.. everyone reckons that about their own voice.10:09
humphreybcgodbyk, how fast is the FCM podcast downloading for you?10:10
godbykit's done.10:10
godbykI just wgetted the ogg file.10:10
humphreybcah okay, so not their server10:10
humphreybcit's my shitty internet10:10
godbykit downloaded at 945 KB/s10:10
nisshhgodbyk: what? that speed is insane!!!10:11
humphreybci know!!10:11
nisshhhehe, i joined right when godbyk said that10:11
godbykMy connection can go up to 10-12 Mbps, I think.10:12
nisshhgodbyk: you lucky bugger!10:12
humphreybci hate you10:12
nisshhlol10:12
godbykand that's just the home speed. if I wanted to pay for the business speed, it'd be 30 Mbps, I think.10:12
nisshhmine is only 1.5 Mbps10:12
humphreybcnisshh: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/2010/04/24/full-circle-podcast-5-manual-dexterity/10:13
nisshhooh, downloading that right now10:13
nisshhhumphreybc: your desktop screenshot on your blog is a bit plain10:15
nisshhpretty stock ubuntu10:15
humphreybcno it's not!10:15
humphreybcit's not stock at all!10:15
nisshhhehe10:15
nisshhcompared to mine it is10:16
humphreybcbuttons on the right, different theme, docky, no bottom panel, custom nautilus10:16
humphreybcdifferent mouse cursor... wallpaper... icons10:16
humphreybcetc10:16
nisshhok ok, made your point10:16
nisshh:)10:16
humphreybclol10:17
humphreybcshow us your desktop then10:17
humphreybc!10:17
nisshhok hang on, im gonna go upload a pic to my photobucket10:17
hemanthhumphreybc, me also listening to fullcircle's podcast :)10:17
* humphreybc is scared now10:18
humphreybceveryone listening to my damn interview10:18
humphreybcthat's only part 1! haha10:18
humphreybcI think I gave them tonnes of content10:18
hemanththey are still reading the news hehe10:18
humphreybcmy jokes didn't turn out as funny as they were supposed to be...10:19
humphreybcand I do ramble a lot10:19
humphreybc:D10:19
nisshhswitched to opendns today10:20
nisshhWOW!10:20
humphreybchmm?10:20
nisshhfast as hell10:20
hemanthopendns hot dope :)10:20
nisshhhemanth: hehe10:20
hemanthnisshh, did u try google public dns ?10:21
nisshhyes10:21
nisshhwas almost as fast10:21
nisshhtiny bit slower10:21
nisshhplus i dont trust google much10:22
humphreybcwhat's all this?10:22
hemanthroger dns's are becoming more10:22
hemanthhumphreybc, http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/10:22
humphreybcso you change the setting on the router?10:23
humphreybcman i ramble a lot10:23
humphreybcnote to self: don't ramble as much.10:23
humphreybclet the other person talk... O.o10:23
hemanthyup, the resolve conf10:23
nisshhnah i just edited my eth0 connection10:24
hemanth:)10:24
nisshheasier10:24
hemanthboth will result in the same result10:24
nisshhprobably add it to my router too10:24
nisshhhemanth: yea10:24
humphreybcgodbyk, are you listening to it now?10:25
godbykhumphreybc: I'm listening to your interview right now, yeah.10:25
* hemanth lol mental mongoose 10:26
godbyk(so I haven't been following this channel for the past few minutes. :-))10:26
* humphreybc bites nails10:26
humphreybcdoes my voice sound weird?10:26
godbykI don't think so.10:26
hemanthnope10:26
humphreybcyay!10:26
hemanthmy dns benchmarking http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4603444&l=19e14a894e&id=63091600110:27
nisshhhttp://s1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/nisshh/?action=view&current=desktop-25-4-2010.png10:30
nisshhthats my desktop as of right now10:30
humphreybcelementary!10:31
nisshhyea10:31
humphreybcI'd use that theme IF the damn ubuntu icon wasn't changed to an e10:31
nisshhfound it on omgubuntu10:31
nisshhhumphreybc: lol, lame excuse10:32
humphreybchaha10:32
nisshhhehe, the fcm intro is silly10:32
humphreybcI have to laugh at myself here, "Just have a little thing on the website that says... "would you like the manual?""10:32
humphreybcYES OF COURSE ID LIKE THE MANUAL IVE COME TO THE DAMN WEBSITE10:32
nisshhhumphreybc: you realise you talk to yourself10:33
godbykhumphreybc: we're you referring to the ubunbu.com site there, though?10:33
humphreybcgodbyk, oh I might have been, yes10:33
humphreybcnisshh: yes yes, 80% of that is me actually talking too much, 20% of that is due to editing10:33
nisshhhehe10:33
humphreybcI think Robin might have run some of my answers onto each other10:34
godbykso that was only the first half of your interview? there will be more in the next podcast?10:34
humphreybcgodbyk, yup10:34
humphreybcwhat'd you think?10:34
* hemanth mononono 10:34
godbyknot too bad.  though it always makes me cringe a bit when you toss out crazy goals. :)10:35
humphreybchahahaha10:35
humphreybcjust not too bad? Way to boost my ego a couple of hours before recording the first OMG! Ubuntu! podcast10:35
humphreybc:P10:35
godbyklol10:35
humphreybcthe OMG! one should be a bit better, more even, rather than an interview10:36
nisshhgodbyk: did you have to ruin it i havent even got to the interview yet!10:36
humphreybcnisshh: hahahaha10:36
godbykyou shouldn't take offense. I'm one of those who marks the center bubbles in the Likert scales all the time. :)10:36
humphreybcgodbyk, feedback?10:36
nisshhmeh10:36
humphreybctalk too much? mumble too much? too fast?10:36
nisshhi was kidding10:36
humphreybcwhat did you think of the mic quality?10:36
humphreybcdid you have to concentrate to understand any of it? Rewind because you missed something I said?10:37
godbykthe mic quality was decent for the most part, though you might have breathed into it a few times. not sure if it was you or him or an artifact of the editing.10:37
humphreybcthat would have been me10:37
godbykit didn't sound like you were rambling (but editing may have saved you. ;-))10:37
humphreybcI answered the questions in a fairly large amount of detail...10:38
godbykI only had to rewind when I was reading stuff in this channel and stopped listening for a moment.10:38
humphreybcokay10:38
humphreybcdid I talk too fast? (kiwis are famous for talking too fast)10:38
nisshhhumphreybc: you sound nervous about feedback! :)10:38
godbykyeah, I think the level of detail was good.  not too nitty-gritty, but not fluff answers either.10:38
humphreybcnisshh: haha, no, just trying to get as much feedback as I can10:39
* humphreybc hasn't done podcasts/radio interviews before10:39
nisshhyea10:39
humphreybcalthough I did do 6 years of public speaking training10:39
hemanthhumphreybc, not as fast as Ricky Ponting the cricketer ;)10:39
* humphreybc can act10:39
nisshhooohooh im up to your intervieqw10:40
humphreybcha10:40
nisshhexciting!10:40
nisshhmeh "i sort of took on the role of team lead..."10:41
humphreybclol10:41
humphreybcit's the truth, isn't it?10:41
humphreybcnobody appointed me team lead, it just... happened10:41
godbykGalician is pronounced /gə-lĭsh'ən/, though.10:41
nisshhyea10:41
humphreybcgodbyk I know!! I kicked myself after that10:41
godbykI think that happens by default when you found a project. :)10:41
humphreybcI knew I pronounced it wrong the second after I said it10:41
godbykah, yeah, I hate that!10:42
humphreybcand I also said "bounded around" instead of "bandied around"10:42
humphreybcd'oh10:42
godbykyeah, I heard that too, but wasn't sure if it was a NZ thing or not.10:42
godbykNow all the Galician translators are going to just walk away. :)10:43
thorwilha, i can always only wonder if i don't mispronounce like half the english words on the rare cases i speak it10:43
godbykHeck, *I* probably mispronounce half the English words!10:43
humphreybclol10:44
humphreybcgodbyk, we can just pretend it's a NZ thing10:44
godbykEnglish keeps you on your toes that way.10:44
humphreybcanything I say wrong is now an NZ thing10:44
thorwilin one case, skyping with an australian, it took minutes until i realized he was saying "name", because it did sound like "nime" to me10:44
godbykhumphreybc: I won't tell if you don't.10:44
humphreybchahaha10:44
godbyklol10:44
humphreybcthorwil, are you listening to the podcast?10:44
thorwilhumphreybc: nope :)10:45
humphreybcah, i wanted your feedback too10:45
humphreybc:)10:45
humphreybc(the more feedback I can get, the better I'll be)10:45
thorwilwell, here i think a little less attention might actually help you ;p10:46
nisshhhumphreybc: wow, you ramble on a bit10:46
humphreybcthorwil: hahahaha10:46
humphreybcnisshh: I told you !10:46
nisshhhehe10:46
godbykI think that in all the online recordings of presentations I've given, I've had to speak very quickly due to extreme time constraints.  (Most of them were 5-minute presentations on semi-technical topics.)10:46
humphreybcyeah, we were near the end of the interview and Robin was like "oh my, 30 minutes through already!"10:47
godbykhumphreybc will be pausing after every sentence to do a self-critique during his next podcast now!10:47
humphreybcthe time just flew10:47
humphreybcI think i'll get better very quickly, the OMG! podcast is weekly...10:47
godbykyeah, it doesn't take long to figure most of it out.10:48
godbykI hate listening to myself and realizing I have some phrases that I overuse.10:48
humphreybcI hate listening to myself full stop10:49
godbykI'll still use them, but then I mentally berate myself as soon as it leaves my mouth.10:49
humphreybcJoey's even worse, and he's got a journalism degree in broadcasting10:49
godbykoh yeah?10:49
humphreybcyup10:49
thorwilwell, there are phrases that can become like, really annoying, if you know what i mean10:49
nisshhhumphreybc: for your next interview you should try to pick out some important points and not elaborate tooo much10:50
humphreybclike, totally, thorwil10:50
godbyklol10:50
humphreybcnisshh: noted10:50
thorwilhumphreybc: now imagine you were lady gaga ... couldn't turn on radio or tv anymore and would have to be careful on youtube!!10:50
godbykhumphreybc: have you done the Ubuntu UK podcast yet?10:50
nisshhwill help you not ramble on so much10:50
humphreybcgodbyk, negative10:50
humphreybcnot sure when that's happening10:51
humphreybcthorwil: hehe10:51
humphreybcthorwil: I think Lady Gaga loves herself though10:51
godbykah, sleep through the interview and now they refuse to talk to you, eh?10:51
humphreybcgodbyk pretty much :P10:51
humphreybcI think I killed their schedule a bit10:51
humphreybcwhoops10:51
nisshhhehe10:51
humphreybcthe OMG! one will be a lot funnier than the interview10:52
humphreybcwell10:52
humphreybcif i'm funny, at all10:52
nisshhhumphreybc: im part of the damn team and even i learnt a few things from the interview!10:52
humphreybcJoey and I did a test run last week when we were planning it, talked for 3 hours10:52
hemanthhumphreybc, what's the agenda, for OMG podcast?10:52
humphreybchemanth: no idea10:53
humphreybcwe're going to be talking about lubuntu10:53
humphreybcand that's pretty much all that's confirmed lol10:53
hemanth:)10:53
popeylubuntufail10:54
humphreybclol10:54
nisshhlol the interview is funny10:54
popeyhttp://lubuntu.net/ -> get lubuntu -> takes you to a launchpad bzr repo10:54
humphreybclubuntu > xubuntu10:54
humphreybcpopey: okay now that's fail10:54
popeyhow is that useful to anyone?10:54
humphreybcthat's not useful to anyone10:54
popeythe iso link is under "reporting bugs", not "download" or "get lubuntu"10:54
humphreybcit's the opposite of useful... nonuseful10:55
godbykwow10:55
popeyand the url is broken10:55
popeyhas a space on the end10:55
humphreybc:(10:55
popeydouble fail10:55
humphreybcthis makes me sad10:55
godbykI think we're already beyond 'double'10:55
popeyheh10:56
hemanthis there any video on howto's for quickshot?10:56
popeybit cheeky puttin the iso on people.ubuntu.com10:56
humphreybcpopey: ha! yeah, how much space have members got?10:57
humphreybc /bandwidth10:57
popeydunno10:57
godbykhemanth: I'm not aware of any videos.10:57
nisshhhumphreybc: what? you didnt mentio me in the podcast!10:57
nisshhso rude!10:57
humphreybchahaha10:57
hemanthgodbyk, i didn't find any either10:57
thorwilhumphreybc, godbyk: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/fddac3455a98dbeffde57cd44c163543  http://www.foopics.com/showfull/c6f5e68cf890ce64ab1031400ae3a8af10:57
* godbyk got a mention. :-P10:57
humphreybcnisshh: I did mention you actually10:57
nisshhwhen?10:57
popey65% [========================>              ] 350,887,727 2.19M/s  eta 82s10:57
nisshhnear the end?10:57
popeywheeeeeeeeeeee10:58
godbyknisshh: yeah, when he was rambling on about the style guide stuff.10:58
nisshhhmmm must have missed it10:58
humphreybcthe bit about a team member saying they had lots of fun10:58
godbykhemanth: Do you have a specific question about Quickshot or are you just looking to get started?10:58
nisshhoh, hehe10:58
humphreybcI mis-pronounced beta, said "better" instead of "baiter"10:58
humphreybcI didn't mention your name explicitly though!10:58
godbykpopey: show-off!10:58
humphreybcpopey: what are you downloading?10:59
hemanthgodbyk, i have got started, just was asking for general information10:59
popeylubuntu10:59
godbykhumphreybc: You said 'Kevin'.  I heard it, damn it! :)10:59
popeytesting it with testdrive10:59
humphreybcthorwil: what's with the wave thing?10:59
humphreybclike the blue wave10:59
humphreybcand where's the features list, review quotes and such? :P10:59
thorwilhumphreybc: the wave symbolizes a movement and passing on energy. the feature list doesn't make sense in that context. i have no review quotes. putting lots of stuff on the back will only make people not read it11:00
godbykhumphreybc: I think the features list is probably not useful on the back cover, as by the time they're looking at the back cover, they have the book/PDF. (so they don't need to be convinced to buy it)11:00
humphreybcokay okay11:01
nisshhgodbyk: your right he did say "Kevin"11:01
humphreybcyou'll get review quotes soon11:01
humphreybchopefully11:01
humphreybci like this one11:01
humphreybchttp://www.foopics.com/showfull/fddac3455a98dbeffde57cd44c16354311:01
humphreybcnot too fond of the other one11:01
godbykI like the wave-less one better, as well.  The wave just seems out of place.11:01
humphreybcyeah11:02
* humphreybc is watching the Long Way Down11:02
thorwilok. there's a reason i made it an option. the safe route, then11:02
humphreybcpopey: did you get my review quotes email?11:03
nisshhhumphreybc: found my mention, right at the end!11:05
humphreybclol11:06
nisshhshame you didnt say: nisshh was the most awesomenest author ever!11:07
humphreybchaha11:07
popeyhumphreybc: yes11:07
nisshhhumphreybc: your interview takes up most of the podcast, hehe!11:08
humphreybc:)11:08
popeyand there's more in the next episode?11:08
humphreybcpopey: unfortunately, yes haha11:09
nisshhlol11:09
humphreybcbig project11:09
popeywhich is odd given he ended the interview in that ep11:09
humphreybcwhat can I say11:09
humphreybcyeah, not sure what's up there11:09
hemanth"you have created a mammoth"11:09
nisshhhemanth: a very pretty mammoth with shiny pdf pages!11:10
hemanthnisshh, ha ha :) and it obeys us ;) [ edit, modify, share for free ]11:10
nisshhhehe11:11
nisshhhumphreybc: i got my dad to read it last night11:11
nisshhhe said: "son, you know what?"11:11
nisshhand i said: "what?"11:11
nisshhand he said:11:12
nisshh"im still not switching to ubuntu..."11:12
humphreybchahahahja11:12
nisshhmeh, and i said: "but dad! you get a shiny pdf as well!"11:13
nisshhbrb11:16
popeyooo doc team meeting today at 19:00 UTC11:35
humphreybcthey'll just be discussing the change to mallard11:36
popeynothing else on the agenda?11:38
humphreybcnot sure, haven't looked since last week when there was nothing11:38
ubuntujenkinshello11:39
humphreybchttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda11:39
humphreybcthey've got nothing on the agenda apart from the old news of screencasts team up for adoption11:39
popeyoo11:39
* popey removes that11:39
humphreybcso, to summarize, nothing new from the docs team11:41
popeyi thought you'd add some manual stuff to it11:45
popeyor are you leaving that till uds?11:46
humphreybcleaving it till uds11:48
humphreybcor after11:48
humphreybci'm still not convinced they actually want anything to do with us anyway11:48
humphreybcbut that's another topic entirely11:48
ubuntujenkinsanyone got any good quickshot logo ideas?12:01
godbykubuntujenkins: vish and thorwil are usually good with logos.12:08
ubuntujenkinsvish, and thorwil can you please have a think on a new logo for quickshot please. We need a new one as the current one is tied to ubuntu and we are aiming to be use able for all linux os's12:10
thorwilubuntujenkins: maybe. got my hands full, currently12:11
humphreybcubuntujenkins: you might have to wait a couple of weeks till after lucid, uds, etc12:11
ubuntujenkinsthorwil, thanks, there is no rush12:12
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc, thanks fine12:12
ubuntujenkins*thats12:12
ubuntujenkinsoff to eat bye all o/12:25
vishhmm , quickshot logo..13:00
vishwell , as humphreybc says UDS first! ;)13:00
hemanthi invited few developers from Mozilla drumbeat team to ubuntu-manual :)16:21
ubuntujenkinshello o/18:06
thorwilgrrr, evince doesn't like the lulu cover pdf19:28
thorwilgodbyk: i've run into problems with the manual logo. because it has gradients with transparency. made a version without, using white instead of zero alpha19:31
thorwilgodbyk: this improves things somewhat, but now evince renders this bullshit: http://www.foopics.com/show/af000c701a84784e41c77a3a1e2bb8f619:32
thorwilgodbyk: never once had so much fun in my life before. replacing rectangles with new rectangles with the exact same dimensions improves the result, allthough the rendering is still not 100% correct20:19
thorwilgodbyk: initially looked like i solved it, but after putting it into place, i get: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/43c723efe0b1e02840ea15aff16ae4d220:54
thorwilvish: are you on lucid?20:55
vishthorwil: yuppo20:55
thorwilvish: could you please get the following file and save it to PDF, to the check if the UM logo renders correctly? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Et-w-/%2Bjunk/ubuntu_manual_cover/download/t_w_%40freenet.de-20100425195620-55juwncktnqggdlg/title_page_lulu.svg-20100422133929-ohjthsse0k2r1txz-1/title_page_lulu.svg20:59
thorwilvish: where correctly is notably different from http://www.foopics.com/showfull/43c723efe0b1e02840ea15aff16ae4d221:00
thorwil2 hours lost because of this seemingly random bullshit export/rendering bug :<21:01
vishthorwil: hmm , if i save to pdf the text is over the logo .. :s21:02
thorwilvish: awesome, yet another variation of not what i see in inkscape21:03
thorwilvish: ty21:03
vishthorwil: and it seems the logo is having the same problem as the screenshot21:04
thorwilvish: maybe i can be bothered to reduce this to something that can be filed as bug tomorrow. but it seems we have to give up on having the logo there21:04
thorwilnow i have the urge to destroy something21:05
vishthorwil: the text overlap is solved by just moving the text higher... but logo is just as bad.. :s21:06
thorwila little more of this shit and i have to look into getting illustrator :/21:08
thorwilgood night!21:08
vishi porbably dont have the text you used there , which might have caused the problem of overlap..21:09
vishthorwil: have fun breaking stuff ;)21:09
* vish runs21:09
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk: ping21:31
dutchieo/22:10
ubuntujenkinshello dutchie , I have managed to package the manual22:10
dutchiecool22:10
ubuntujenkinsdo you have the needs packaging bug that you filled?22:11
dutchieI didn't22:11
dutchiehow did you sort out the build-deps?22:11
ubuntujenkinshttps://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntujenkins/+archive/ubuntu-manual is the ppa I just realised i for got to add evince as a dependancy. I just put the pdf in a package. wrote an exicutable that runs evince ....../ubuntumanual.pdf. And sort of used quickly to help22:12
ubuntujenkinsI used the command line application template. Added in the icon stuff by hand the icon is Applications > Accessories22:13
ubuntujenkinsyou can also run ubuntu-manual on the command line to see it22:20
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk: lucid-e1 is broken I don't know how it generates the pdfs form the .png files. didn't want to mess it up.23:29
ubuntujenkinsnight all o/23:29

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