[01:18] <IlyaHaykinson> original font stack?
[01:18] <IlyaHaykinson> dejavu sans condensed, sans, verdana, arial
[03:20] <humphreybc> hi everyone, what's crackin?
[03:28] <godbyk> Hey, humphreybc. not too much.
[03:29] <godbyk> I'm trying to get the \screenshot command to remove a blank line it keeps inserting. (not sure why it's putting it there.)
[09:04] <godbyk> Hey, thorwil.  What problems are you having with the title page script?
[09:05] <thorwil> godbyk: as said in the email, it doesn't replace the titles of the generated SVGs anymore
[09:06] <thorwil> so it remains "Getting Started ..." in all language versions
[09:08] <godbyk> Ah, I'll look at it.
[09:08] <godbyk> I didn't get an email from you, though.
[09:08]  * godbyk checks his spam folder...
[09:10] <godbyk> (I don't see anything in my spam folder, either.  Odd.)
[09:10] <thorwil> godbyk: don't you use your at ubuntu-manual.org address?
[09:11] <godbyk> thorwil: yeah, kevin@ubuntu-manual.org should forward to godbyk@gmail.com
[09:11] <thorwil> godbyk: 2 emails got lost, then
[09:11] <godbyk> great.
[09:13]  * thorwil sends both again, to the other address
[09:13] <godbyk> I got the ones you just sent.
[09:13] <godbyk> Not sure what black hole the originals fell into.
[09:15]  * thorwil sends Test email
[09:16] <humphreybc> hi guyes
[09:16] <humphreybc> guys, even
[09:16] <godbyk> hey, humphreybc
[09:16] <thorwil> hi humphreybc
[09:24] <godbyk> thorwil: I found the problem.
[09:24] <godbyk> The template SVGs that you modified are using the old-style figures instead of lining figures.
[09:24] <godbyk> But the script runs the find/replace against the title string with lining figures.
[09:26] <godbyk> let me test my theory real quick and then I'll commit the fix.
[09:28] <thorwil> godbyk: if you replace the figures in the templates, copy them to have "en" version, first, please
[09:28] <godbyk> thorwil: That fixed it.  I've pushed a fix.  I just updated the SVGs to use lining figures and the generator script works again.
[09:28] <godbyk> The figures get replaced with old-style figures after the translation process, if that's what you're referring to.
[09:29] <ubuntujenkins> morning
[09:29] <godbyk> morning, ubuntujenkins
[09:29] <thorwil> godbyk: ok, thanks. how do we handle the english version?
[09:29] <humphreybc> ello
[09:29] <thorwil> morning
[09:29] <ubuntujenkins> hello humphreybc godbyk and thorwil lots of people here today :)
[09:30] <humphreybc> lol yup
[09:30] <godbyk> thorwil: currently, it looks like my LaTeX code look for a file named 'titlepage/titlepage-LANGCODE.pdf'
[09:30] <godbyk> if it fails to find that, then it falls back on either titlepage/title_page_a4_en.pdf or title_page_letter_en.pdf (depending on the paper size/language).
[09:31] <godbyk> If you want me to modify any of that code, just let me know.
[09:31] <thorwil> godbyk: i see en_AU and en_GB, but no en_US. AU uses letter format?
[09:32] <godbyk> I think that I have all the languages except US English set to use A4 paper, but let me double-check that.
[09:32] <godbyk> That appears to be the case.. all use A4 except en (US)
[09:34] <thorwil> godbyk: there a single pdf checked in: titlepage_letter_en.pdf. can i delete that one?
[09:35] <godbyk> hmm.. strange.
[09:36] <godbyk> I don't see any files named title_page_a4_en.pdf or title_page_letter_en.pdf.
[09:36] <godbyk> did they ever exist?  or did I just make those up when I wrote this code?
[09:36] <godbyk> thorwil: in any case, you can delete that file if you like.
[09:36] <thorwil> godbyk: ugh. so maybe it isn't actually checked in. having so many ignore files in here confuses me
[09:37] <godbyk> thorwil: if you you can provide me with a letter- and A4-sized English (US) version of the title page that I can have the code fall back on (when the translated version doesn't yet exist), that'd be good.  just let me know what the filenames are.
[09:37] <thorwil> godbyk: can en_GB and en_AU be handled with a symlink?
[09:38] <godbyk> thorwil: hmm.. probably.  though it might be a good idea to have pre-generated PDFs of those since they're rather hard-coded.
[09:39] <thorwil> godbyk: actually, i'd like to have just "en" with A$ and "en_US" with letter, if you're ok with that
[09:39] <ubuntujenkins> see you al later
[09:40] <godbyk> thorwil: I'm not too picky. I just need to know which two PDFs (letter-size and A4-size) to fall back on when the translated copy doesn't exist.
[09:51] <thorwil> godbyk: deleted that stray pdf, added en and en_US SVGs
[09:52] <godbyk> cool.
[09:52] <godbyk> I'll pull those and update my code.
[10:03] <humphreybc> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/2010/04/24/full-circle-podcast-5-manual-dexterity/
[10:06] <humphreybc> Part 1 of my full circle magazine interview
[10:06] <godbyk> I'm looking at the translations status.. when did Greek get so far ahead?
[10:06] <godbyk> humphreybc: it's in multiple parts? how long did you carry on for? :)
[10:07] <humphreybc> 40 minutes :)
[10:08]  * godbyk skips ahead to humphreybc's interview to see what lies he's told
[10:08] <humphreybc> woah, Greek and German are kicking ass!
[10:08] <humphreybc> and Galician
[10:08] <humphreybc> too bad Spanish probably won't be finished...
[10:09] <humphreybc> godbyk: warning, my voice sounds a bit shit
[10:09] <humphreybc> well, I reckon it does
[10:09] <godbyk> lol.. everyone reckons that about their own voice.
[10:10] <humphreybc> godbyk, how fast is the FCM podcast downloading for you?
[10:10] <godbyk> it's done.
[10:10] <godbyk> I just wgetted the ogg file.
[10:10] <humphreybc> ah okay, so not their server
[10:10] <humphreybc> it's my shitty internet
[10:10] <godbyk> it downloaded at 945 KB/s
[10:11] <nisshh> godbyk: what? that speed is insane!!!
[10:11] <humphreybc> i know!!
[10:11] <nisshh> hehe, i joined right when godbyk said that
[10:12] <godbyk> My connection can go up to 10-12 Mbps, I think.
[10:12] <nisshh> godbyk: you lucky bugger!
[10:12] <humphreybc> i hate you
[10:12] <nisshh> lol
[10:12] <godbyk> and that's just the home speed. if I wanted to pay for the business speed, it'd be 30 Mbps, I think.
[10:12] <nisshh> mine is only 1.5 Mbps
[10:13] <humphreybc> nisshh: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/2010/04/24/full-circle-podcast-5-manual-dexterity/
[10:13] <nisshh> ooh, downloading that right now
[10:15] <nisshh> humphreybc: your desktop screenshot on your blog is a bit plain
[10:15] <nisshh> pretty stock ubuntu
[10:15] <humphreybc> no it's not!
[10:15] <humphreybc> it's not stock at all!
[10:15] <nisshh> hehe
[10:16] <nisshh> compared to mine it is
[10:16] <humphreybc> buttons on the right, different theme, docky, no bottom panel, custom nautilus
[10:16] <humphreybc> different mouse cursor... wallpaper... icons
[10:16] <humphreybc> etc
[10:16] <nisshh> ok ok, made your point
[10:16] <nisshh> :)
[10:17] <humphreybc> lol
[10:17] <humphreybc> show us your desktop then
[10:17] <humphreybc> !
[10:17] <nisshh> ok hang on, im gonna go upload a pic to my photobucket
[10:17] <hemanth> humphreybc, me also listening to fullcircle's podcast :)
[10:18]  * humphreybc is scared now
[10:18] <humphreybc> everyone listening to my damn interview
[10:18] <humphreybc> that's only part 1! haha
[10:18] <humphreybc> I think I gave them tonnes of content
[10:18] <hemanth> they are still reading the news hehe
[10:19] <humphreybc> my jokes didn't turn out as funny as they were supposed to be...
[10:19] <humphreybc> and I do ramble a lot
[10:19] <humphreybc> :D
[10:20] <nisshh> switched to opendns today
[10:20] <nisshh> WOW!
[10:20] <humphreybc> hmm?
[10:20] <nisshh> fast as hell
[10:20] <hemanth> opendns hot dope :)
[10:20] <nisshh> hemanth: hehe
[10:21] <hemanth> nisshh, did u try google public dns ?
[10:21] <nisshh> yes
[10:21] <nisshh> was almost as fast
[10:21] <nisshh> tiny bit slower
[10:22] <nisshh> plus i dont trust google much
[10:22] <humphreybc> what's all this?
[10:22] <hemanth> roger dns's are becoming more
[10:22] <hemanth> humphreybc, http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
[10:23] <humphreybc> so you change the setting on the router?
[10:23] <humphreybc> man i ramble a lot
[10:23] <humphreybc> note to self: don't ramble as much.
[10:23] <humphreybc> let the other person talk... O.o
[10:23] <hemanth> yup, the resolve conf
[10:24] <nisshh> nah i just edited my eth0 connection
[10:24] <hemanth> :)
[10:24] <nisshh> easier
[10:24] <hemanth> both will result in the same result
[10:24] <nisshh> probably add it to my router too
[10:24] <nisshh> hemanth: yea
[10:25] <humphreybc> godbyk, are you listening to it now?
[10:25] <godbyk> humphreybc: I'm listening to your interview right now, yeah.
[10:26]  * hemanth lol mental mongoose 
[10:26] <godbyk> (so I haven't been following this channel for the past few minutes. :-))
[10:26]  * humphreybc bites nails
[10:26] <humphreybc> does my voice sound weird?
[10:26] <godbyk> I don't think so.
[10:26] <hemanth> nope
[10:26] <humphreybc> yay!
[10:27] <hemanth> my dns benchmarking http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4603444&l=19e14a894e&id=630916001
[10:30] <nisshh> http://s1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/nisshh/?action=view&current=desktop-25-4-2010.png
[10:30] <nisshh> thats my desktop as of right now
[10:31] <humphreybc> elementary!
[10:31] <nisshh> yea
[10:31] <humphreybc> I'd use that theme IF the damn ubuntu icon wasn't changed to an e
[10:31] <nisshh> found it on omgubuntu
[10:32] <nisshh> humphreybc: lol, lame excuse
[10:32] <humphreybc> haha
[10:32] <nisshh> hehe, the fcm intro is silly
[10:32] <humphreybc> I have to laugh at myself here, "Just have a little thing on the website that says... "would you like the manual?""
[10:32] <humphreybc> YES OF COURSE ID LIKE THE MANUAL IVE COME TO THE DAMN WEBSITE
[10:33] <nisshh> humphreybc: you realise you talk to yourself
[10:33] <godbyk> humphreybc: we're you referring to the ubunbu.com site there, though?
[10:33] <humphreybc> godbyk, oh I might have been, yes
[10:33] <humphreybc> nisshh: yes yes, 80% of that is me actually talking too much, 20% of that is due to editing
[10:33] <nisshh> hehe
[10:34] <humphreybc> I think Robin might have run some of my answers onto each other
[10:34] <godbyk> so that was only the first half of your interview? there will be more in the next podcast?
[10:34] <humphreybc> godbyk, yup
[10:34] <humphreybc> what'd you think?
[10:34]  * hemanth mononono 
[10:35] <godbyk> not too bad.  though it always makes me cringe a bit when you toss out crazy goals. :)
[10:35] <humphreybc> hahahaha
[10:35] <humphreybc> just not too bad? Way to boost my ego a couple of hours before recording the first OMG! Ubuntu! podcast
[10:35] <humphreybc> :P
[10:35] <godbyk> lol
[10:36] <humphreybc> the OMG! one should be a bit better, more even, rather than an interview
[10:36] <nisshh> godbyk: did you have to ruin it i havent even got to the interview yet!
[10:36] <humphreybc> nisshh: hahahaha
[10:36] <godbyk> you shouldn't take offense. I'm one of those who marks the center bubbles in the Likert scales all the time. :)
[10:36] <humphreybc> godbyk, feedback?
[10:36] <nisshh> meh
[10:36] <humphreybc> talk too much? mumble too much? too fast?
[10:36] <nisshh> i was kidding
[10:36] <humphreybc> what did you think of the mic quality?
[10:37] <humphreybc> did you have to concentrate to understand any of it? Rewind because you missed something I said?
[10:37] <godbyk> the mic quality was decent for the most part, though you might have breathed into it a few times. not sure if it was you or him or an artifact of the editing.
[10:37] <humphreybc> that would have been me
[10:37] <godbyk> it didn't sound like you were rambling (but editing may have saved you. ;-))
[10:38] <humphreybc> I answered the questions in a fairly large amount of detail...
[10:38] <godbyk> I only had to rewind when I was reading stuff in this channel and stopped listening for a moment.
[10:38] <humphreybc> okay
[10:38] <humphreybc> did I talk too fast? (kiwis are famous for talking too fast)
[10:38] <nisshh> humphreybc: you sound nervous about feedback! :)
[10:38] <godbyk> yeah, I think the level of detail was good.  not too nitty-gritty, but not fluff answers either.
[10:39] <humphreybc> nisshh: haha, no, just trying to get as much feedback as I can
[10:39]  * humphreybc hasn't done podcasts/radio interviews before
[10:39] <nisshh> yea
[10:39] <humphreybc> although I did do 6 years of public speaking training
[10:39] <hemanth> humphreybc, not as fast as Ricky Ponting the cricketer ;)
[10:39]  * humphreybc can act
[10:40] <nisshh> ooohooh im up to your intervieqw
[10:40] <humphreybc> ha
[10:40] <nisshh> exciting!
[10:41] <nisshh> meh "i sort of took on the role of team lead..."
[10:41] <humphreybc> lol
[10:41] <humphreybc> it's the truth, isn't it?
[10:41] <humphreybc> nobody appointed me team lead, it just... happened
[10:41] <godbyk> Galician is pronounced /gə-lĭsh'ən/, though.
[10:41] <nisshh> yea
[10:41] <humphreybc> godbyk I know!! I kicked myself after that
[10:41] <godbyk> I think that happens by default when you found a project. :)
[10:41] <humphreybc> I knew I pronounced it wrong the second after I said it
[10:42] <godbyk> ah, yeah, I hate that!
[10:42] <humphreybc> and I also said "bounded around" instead of "bandied around"
[10:42] <humphreybc> d'oh
[10:42] <godbyk> yeah, I heard that too, but wasn't sure if it was a NZ thing or not.
[10:43] <godbyk> Now all the Galician translators are going to just walk away. :)
[10:43] <thorwil> ha, i can always only wonder if i don't mispronounce like half the english words on the rare cases i speak it
[10:43] <godbyk> Heck, *I* probably mispronounce half the English words!
[10:44] <humphreybc> lol
[10:44] <humphreybc> godbyk, we can just pretend it's a NZ thing
[10:44] <godbyk> English keeps you on your toes that way.
[10:44] <humphreybc> anything I say wrong is now an NZ thing
[10:44] <thorwil> in one case, skyping with an australian, it took minutes until i realized he was saying "name", because it did sound like "nime" to me
[10:44] <godbyk> humphreybc: I won't tell if you don't.
[10:44] <humphreybc> hahaha
[10:44] <godbyk> lol
[10:44] <humphreybc> thorwil, are you listening to the podcast?
[10:45] <thorwil> humphreybc: nope :)
[10:45] <humphreybc> ah, i wanted your feedback too
[10:45] <humphreybc> :)
[10:45] <humphreybc> (the more feedback I can get, the better I'll be)
[10:46] <thorwil> well, here i think a little less attention might actually help you ;p
[10:46] <nisshh> humphreybc: wow, you ramble on a bit
[10:46] <humphreybc> thorwil: hahahaha
[10:46] <humphreybc> nisshh: I told you !
[10:46] <nisshh> hehe
[10:46] <godbyk> I think that in all the online recordings of presentations I've given, I've had to speak very quickly due to extreme time constraints.  (Most of them were 5-minute presentations on semi-technical topics.)
[10:47] <humphreybc> yeah, we were near the end of the interview and Robin was like "oh my, 30 minutes through already!"
[10:47] <godbyk> humphreybc will be pausing after every sentence to do a self-critique during his next podcast now!
[10:47] <humphreybc> the time just flew
[10:47] <humphreybc> I think i'll get better very quickly, the OMG! podcast is weekly...
[10:48] <godbyk> yeah, it doesn't take long to figure most of it out.
[10:48] <godbyk> I hate listening to myself and realizing I have some phrases that I overuse.
[10:49] <humphreybc> I hate listening to myself full stop
[10:49] <godbyk> I'll still use them, but then I mentally berate myself as soon as it leaves my mouth.
[10:49] <humphreybc> Joey's even worse, and he's got a journalism degree in broadcasting
[10:49] <godbyk> oh yeah?
[10:49] <humphreybc> yup
[10:49] <thorwil> well, there are phrases that can become like, really annoying, if you know what i mean
[10:50] <nisshh> humphreybc: for your next interview you should try to pick out some important points and not elaborate tooo much
[10:50] <humphreybc> like, totally, thorwil
[10:50] <godbyk> lol
[10:50] <humphreybc> nisshh: noted
[10:50] <thorwil> humphreybc: now imagine you were lady gaga ... couldn't turn on radio or tv anymore and would have to be careful on youtube!!
[10:50] <godbyk> humphreybc: have you done the Ubuntu UK podcast yet?
[10:50] <nisshh> will help you not ramble on so much
[10:50] <humphreybc> godbyk, negative
[10:51] <humphreybc> not sure when that's happening
[10:51] <humphreybc> thorwil: hehe
[10:51] <humphreybc> thorwil: I think Lady Gaga loves herself though
[10:51] <godbyk> ah, sleep through the interview and now they refuse to talk to you, eh?
[10:51] <humphreybc> godbyk pretty much :P
[10:51] <humphreybc> I think I killed their schedule a bit
[10:51] <humphreybc> whoops
[10:51] <nisshh> hehe
[10:52] <humphreybc> the OMG! one will be a lot funnier than the interview
[10:52] <humphreybc> well
[10:52] <humphreybc> if i'm funny, at all
[10:52] <nisshh> humphreybc: im part of the damn team and even i learnt a few things from the interview!
[10:52] <humphreybc> Joey and I did a test run last week when we were planning it, talked for 3 hours
[10:52] <hemanth> humphreybc, what's the agenda, for OMG podcast?
[10:53] <humphreybc> hemanth: no idea
[10:53] <humphreybc> we're going to be talking about lubuntu
[10:53] <humphreybc> and that's pretty much all that's confirmed lol
[10:53] <hemanth> :)
[10:54] <popey> lubuntufail
[10:54] <humphreybc> lol
[10:54] <nisshh> lol the interview is funny
[10:54] <popey> http://lubuntu.net/ -> get lubuntu -> takes you to a launchpad bzr repo
[10:54] <humphreybc> lubuntu > xubuntu
[10:54] <humphreybc> popey: okay now that's fail
[10:54] <popey> how is that useful to anyone?
[10:54] <humphreybc> that's not useful to anyone
[10:54] <popey> the iso link is under "reporting bugs", not "download" or "get lubuntu"
[10:55] <humphreybc> it's the opposite of useful... nonuseful
[10:55] <godbyk> wow
[10:55] <popey> and the url is broken
[10:55] <popey> has a space on the end
[10:55] <humphreybc> :(
[10:55] <popey> double fail
[10:55] <humphreybc> this makes me sad
[10:55] <godbyk> I think we're already beyond 'double'
[10:56] <popey> heh
[10:56] <hemanth> is there any video on howto's for quickshot?
[10:56] <popey> bit cheeky puttin the iso on people.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <humphreybc> popey: ha! yeah, how much space have members got?
[10:57] <humphreybc>  /bandwidth
[10:57] <popey> dunno
[10:57] <godbyk> hemanth: I'm not aware of any videos.
[10:57] <nisshh> humphreybc: what? you didnt mentio me in the podcast!
[10:57] <nisshh> so rude!
[10:57] <humphreybc> hahaha
[10:57] <hemanth> godbyk, i didn't find any either
[10:57] <thorwil> humphreybc, godbyk: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/fddac3455a98dbeffde57cd44c163543  http://www.foopics.com/showfull/c6f5e68cf890ce64ab1031400ae3a8af
[10:57]  * godbyk got a mention. :-P
[10:57] <humphreybc> nisshh: I did mention you actually
[10:57] <nisshh> when?
[10:57] <popey> 65% [[10:57] <nisshh> near the end?
[10:58] <popey> wheeeeeeeeeeee
[10:58] <godbyk> nisshh: yeah, when he was rambling on about the style guide stuff.
[10:58] <nisshh> hmmm must have missed it
[10:58] <humphreybc> the bit about a team member saying they had lots of fun
[10:58] <godbyk> hemanth: Do you have a specific question about Quickshot or are you just looking to get started?
[10:58] <nisshh> oh, hehe
[10:58] <humphreybc> I mis-pronounced beta, said "better" instead of "baiter"
[10:58] <humphreybc> I didn't mention your name explicitly though!
[10:58] <godbyk> popey: show-off!
[10:59] <humphreybc> popey: what are you downloading?
[10:59] <hemanth> godbyk, i have got started, just was asking for general information
[10:59] <popey> lubuntu
[10:59] <godbyk> humphreybc: You said 'Kevin'.  I heard it, damn it! :)
[10:59] <popey> testing it with testdrive
[10:59] <humphreybc> thorwil: what's with the wave thing?
[10:59] <humphreybc> like the blue wave
[10:59] <humphreybc> and where's the features list, review quotes and such? :P
[11:00] <thorwil> humphreybc: the wave symbolizes a movement and passing on energy. the feature list doesn't make sense in that context. i have no review quotes. putting lots of stuff on the back will only make people not read it
[11:00] <godbyk> humphreybc: I think the features list is probably not useful on the back cover, as by the time they're looking at the back cover, they have the book/PDF. (so they don't need to be convinced to buy it)
[11:01] <humphreybc> okay okay
[11:01] <nisshh> godbyk: your right he did say "Kevin"
[11:01] <humphreybc> you'll get review quotes soon
[11:01] <humphreybc> hopefully
[11:01] <humphreybc> i like this one
[11:01] <humphreybc> http://www.foopics.com/showfull/fddac3455a98dbeffde57cd44c163543
[11:01] <humphreybc> not too fond of the other one
[11:01] <godbyk> I like the wave-less one better, as well.  The wave just seems out of place.
[11:02] <humphreybc> yeah
[11:02]  * humphreybc is watching the Long Way Down
[11:02] <thorwil> ok. there's a reason i made it an option. the safe route, then
[11:03] <humphreybc> popey: did you get my review quotes email?
[11:05] <nisshh> humphreybc: found my mention, right at the end!
[11:06] <humphreybc> lol
[11:07] <nisshh> shame you didnt say: nisshh was the most awesomenest author ever!
[11:07] <humphreybc> haha
[11:07] <popey> humphreybc: yes
[11:08] <nisshh> humphreybc: your interview takes up most of the podcast, hehe!
[11:08] <humphreybc> :)
[11:08] <popey> and there's more in the next episode?
[11:09] <humphreybc> popey: unfortunately, yes haha
[11:09] <nisshh> lol
[11:09] <humphreybc> big project
[11:09] <popey> which is odd given he ended the interview in that ep
[11:09] <humphreybc> what can I say
[11:09] <humphreybc> yeah, not sure what's up there
[11:09] <hemanth> "you have created a mammoth"
[11:10] <nisshh> hemanth: a very pretty mammoth with shiny pdf pages!
[11:10] <hemanth> nisshh, ha ha :) and it obeys us ;) [ edit, modify, share for free ]
[11:11] <nisshh> hehe
[11:11] <nisshh> humphreybc: i got my dad to read it last night
[11:11] <nisshh> he said: "son, you know what?"
[11:11] <nisshh> and i said: "what?"
[11:12] <nisshh> and he said:
[11:12] <nisshh> "im still not switching to ubuntu..."
[11:12] <humphreybc> hahahahja
[11:13] <nisshh> meh, and i said: "but dad! you get a shiny pdf as well!"
[11:16] <nisshh> brb
[11:35] <popey> ooo doc team meeting today at 19:00 UTC
[11:36] <humphreybc> they'll just be discussing the change to mallard
[11:38] <popey> nothing else on the agenda?
[11:38] <humphreybc> not sure, haven't looked since last week when there was nothing
[11:39] <ubuntujenkins> hello
[11:39] <humphreybc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda
[11:39] <humphreybc> they've got nothing on the agenda apart from the old news of screencasts team up for adoption
[11:39] <popey> oo
[11:39]  * popey removes that
[11:41] <humphreybc> so, to summarize, nothing new from the docs team
[11:45] <popey> i thought you'd add some manual stuff to it
[11:46] <popey> or are you leaving that till uds?
[11:48] <humphreybc> leaving it till uds
[11:48] <humphreybc> or after
[11:48] <humphreybc> i'm still not convinced they actually want anything to do with us anyway
[11:48] <humphreybc> but that's another topic entirely
[12:01] <ubuntujenkins> anyone got any good quickshot logo ideas?
[12:08] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: vish and thorwil are usually good with logos.
[12:10] <ubuntujenkins> vish, and thorwil can you please have a think on a new logo for quickshot please. We need a new one as the current one is tied to ubuntu and we are aiming to be use able for all linux os's
[12:11] <thorwil> ubuntujenkins: maybe. got my hands full, currently
[12:11] <humphreybc> ubuntujenkins: you might have to wait a couple of weeks till after lucid, uds, etc
[12:12] <ubuntujenkins> thorwil, thanks, there is no rush
[12:12] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc, thanks fine
[12:12] <ubuntujenkins> *thats
[12:25] <ubuntujenkins> off to eat bye all o/
[13:00] <vish> hmm , quickshot logo..
[13:00] <vish> well , as humphreybc says UDS first! ;)
[16:21] <hemanth> i invited few developers from Mozilla drumbeat team to ubuntu-manual :)
[18:06] <ubuntujenkins> hello o/
[19:28] <thorwil> grrr, evince doesn't like the lulu cover pdf
[19:31] <thorwil> godbyk: i've run into problems with the manual logo. because it has gradients with transparency. made a version without, using white instead of zero alpha
[19:32] <thorwil> godbyk: this improves things somewhat, but now evince renders this bullshit: http://www.foopics.com/show/af000c701a84784e41c77a3a1e2bb8f6
[20:19] <thorwil> godbyk: never once had so much fun in my life before. replacing rectangles with new rectangles with the exact same dimensions improves the result, allthough the rendering is still not 100% correct
[20:54] <thorwil> godbyk: initially looked like i solved it, but after putting it into place, i get: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/43c723efe0b1e02840ea15aff16ae4d2
[20:55] <thorwil> vish: are you on lucid?
[20:55] <vish> thorwil: yuppo
[20:59] <thorwil> vish: could you please get the following file and save it to PDF, to the check if the UM logo renders correctly? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Et-w-/%2Bjunk/ubuntu_manual_cover/download/t_w_%40freenet.de-20100425195620-55juwncktnqggdlg/title_page_lulu.svg-20100422133929-ohjthsse0k2r1txz-1/title_page_lulu.svg
[21:00] <thorwil> vish: where correctly is notably different from http://www.foopics.com/showfull/43c723efe0b1e02840ea15aff16ae4d2
[21:01] <thorwil> 2 hours lost because of this seemingly random bullshit export/rendering bug :<
[21:02] <vish> thorwil: hmm , if i save to pdf the text is over the logo .. :s
[21:03] <thorwil> vish: awesome, yet another variation of not what i see in inkscape
[21:03] <thorwil> vish: ty
[21:04] <vish> thorwil: and it seems the logo is having the same problem as the screenshot
[21:04] <thorwil> vish: maybe i can be bothered to reduce this to something that can be filed as bug tomorrow. but it seems we have to give up on having the logo there
[21:05] <thorwil> now i have the urge to destroy something
[21:06] <vish> thorwil: the text overlap is solved by just moving the text higher... but logo is just as bad.. :s
[21:08] <thorwil> a little more of this shit and i have to look into getting illustrator :/
[21:08] <thorwil> good night!
[21:09] <vish> i porbably dont have the text you used there , which might have caused the problem of overlap..
[21:09] <vish> thorwil: have fun breaking stuff ;)
[21:09]  * vish runs
[21:31] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: ping
[22:10] <dutchie> o/
[22:10] <ubuntujenkins> hello dutchie , I have managed to package the manual
[22:10] <dutchie> cool
[22:11] <ubuntujenkins> do you have the needs packaging bug that you filled?
[22:11] <dutchie> I didn't
[22:11] <dutchie> how did you sort out the build-deps?
[22:12] <ubuntujenkins> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntujenkins/+archive/ubuntu-manual is the ppa I just realised i for got to add evince as a dependancy. I just put the pdf in a package. wrote an exicutable that runs evince ....../ubuntumanual.pdf. And sort of used quickly to help
[22:13] <ubuntujenkins> I used the command line application template. Added in the icon stuff by hand the icon is Applications > Accessories
[22:20] <ubuntujenkins> you can also run ubuntu-manual on the command line to see it
[23:29] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: lucid-e1 is broken I don't know how it generates the pdfs form the .png files. didn't want to mess it up.
[23:29] <ubuntujenkins> night all o/