[04:40] nikolam: around? [04:45] micahg, unfortunatelly, since, I am better sleep :) [04:45] nikolam: have you tried the version in my PPA? [04:46] Yes. and cand compile on Hardy. [04:46] It requires some wierd libraries etc [04:46] And i use LTS [04:46] * micahg isn't worries about hardy ATM [04:46] nikolam: you didn't tell me that before :) [04:46] Also, seems like you were not targeted 10.04 [04:46] no, I'm trying [04:47] ok then :) [04:47] it's update or drop [04:47] well, I suggest cooperation with that guy that made it working [04:47] nikolam: he didn't make it work [04:48] he just installs the upstream version [04:48] nikolam: it seems to work for me [04:49] or taking a look at what he was doing [04:49] Anyway, I better like standard way with multiple debs at the end, anyway [04:49] micahg, no he made it wors, just gread. but he changed original tar.gz, and put all needed inside, not ubuntu way [04:49] nikolam: yep [04:49] nikolam: like I said, it seems to work for me [04:49] I was hoping people would test [04:49] seems like just 1 person did [04:50] Yesterday he even integrated Lightning inside (calendar) [04:50] and I think he was using Joe Lesko's PPA which I will not support/upgrade from [04:50] nikolam: which is why his package will never hit archive :) [04:50] micahg, I tried, and couldnt test on hardy [04:50] micahg, well, sure [04:51] but maybe there could be cooperation, still [04:51] I suppose he would also like it to be ¨ubuntu way¨ etc [04:51] nikolam: once 2.0.x gets in we'll update it with security updates [04:51] nikolam: I'll try it in my hardy pbuilder [04:52] he told me that he now achieved what he basically wanted etc [04:52] nikolam: right a packaged seamonkey w/out regard for standards [04:52] micahg, Hardy is here untill 10.04/next Lts comes [04:52] maybe 10.04 is most important now. [04:52] nikolam: it is [04:52] After new lts, old lts, would be much uninteresting [04:53] nikolam: no, we'll update it as well [04:53] Ok, great [04:53] nikolam: just not till after Lucid [04:53] probably some time next month [04:53] I would like also to look how things are done in your work etc. [04:53] nikolam: you can look at the branch after I push my changes [04:54] nikolam: all the work is public [04:54] I mostly did not made my own packages till now, except with prepared .dsc and patch files [04:55] Main reason I was left on hardy was stupid amd closed graphics support, anyway, for my card they stopped supporting it in newer etc. [04:55] micahg, I was thinking for a long time [04:56] There would be nice to hve well defined update path for people interested in packaging, anyway [04:56] nikolam: I'm going to try installing 1.1.17 and setting up some stuff and then upgrade, if it works, I'm going to push what I have to lucid [04:57] 1.1.19 could be interesting training :P [04:57] nikolam: no, it's the last release on that branch [04:57] 1.1.17 is the last one in archive and what we'd support an upgrade from [04:58] but seems like some 1.1.18 sec. fixes were already integrated in ubuntu 1.1.17 when he came etc [04:58] Hm, yes I know. only 1.1.19 is latest SM 1.x i think [04:58] ok, I understand [04:58] nikolam: ok, I can fix that issue for hardy [04:58] Last as we are concerned [04:59] nikolam: yes, but we didn't package it :) [05:00] I tried to compile and add newer libraries on hardy, but after 1 made, second library failed to compile and that was it [05:00] nikolam: I'm testing local now, if it works, I'll push hardy build to my PPA [05:01] Ok I will try to set your Ppa on 32-bit , 9.10 machine today [05:02] Its eeepc but with fresh 9.10 [05:02] nikolam: do you need karmic or hardy? [05:02] Well I use Hardy on 64bit for every day [05:03] But 9.10 on eeepc [05:05] ok, going off ;) Take care.. and thanks ;) [05:05] nikolam: k, should be in my PPA when you get up [05:09] ddecator: do you want to test Seamonkey for em? [05:09] *me [05:10] micahg: i suppose i could [05:10] micahg: what PPA is it in? [05:10] ddecator: k, do you use the seamonkey2 PPA? [05:10] micahg: nope, but i can add it [05:10] ddecator: no [05:10] ddecator: don't [05:10] k.. [05:10] ddecator: please install seamonkey from Lucid archive [05:11] ddecator: set up some bookmarks, home page, mail account [05:11] micahg: does the daily PPA have a seamonkey build? [05:11] ddecator: no [05:11] micahg: good deal, i'll install it then. any other functions you want me to test? [05:12] ddecator: once you set all that up, here's my PPA with Seamonkey 2: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test [05:12] ddecator: upgrade to it and verify everything's still tehre [05:12] micahg: sure thing [05:12] ddecator: thanks [05:12] micahg: np. i'll let you know when i'm done [05:13] hopefully by then I'll have the packaging committed to the branch :) [05:13] that'd be helpful =p [05:13] oh wow, i forgot how ugly seamonkey is.. [05:13] ddecator: SM2 looks better :) [05:13] good [05:21] micahg: ok, got some bookmarks, changed the homepage, and setup my email. anything else i should do before upgrading? [05:21] i feel like i'm using the first release of netscape.. [05:22] ddecator: anything else you can think of, I haven't used that platform in almost 10 yrs :) [05:23] alright, changed some settings too... [05:23] micahg: is the PPA all set? [05:24] ddecator: yep [05:24] ddecator: I had to fix some stuff for hardy, but that won't affect the Lucid build [05:27] whoa huge icons.. [05:28] micahg: alright, home page worked, settings remained, mail account worked but it asked for my password even though i told it to save it, bookmarks were erased, [05:29] ddecator: I think the passwd issue is known upstream, I'll have to check [05:29] bookmarks being deleted is bad [05:29] micahg: toolbar and menu [05:29] wait [05:29] ddecator: what about them? [05:30] micahg: no wait, the bookmark menu stayed, the toolbar got erased [05:30] whoa [05:30] it just loaded the toolbar... [05:30] ok, so bookmarks work, but there is some weird delay.. [05:31] ddecator: k, I don't know what's normal, so I can't say if that is or not [05:31] [reed]: do you use Seamonkey at all? [05:31] micahg: neither can i.. [05:32] <[reed]> micahg: nope [05:32] [reed]: k, do you know offhand what the seamonkey dev channel is on i.m.o? [05:32] micahg: alright, so the toolbar shows my bookmarks, but none of them work.. [05:32] <[reed]> #seamonkey [05:33] [reed]: is there a user channel too? [05:33] <[reed]> same thing [05:33] <[reed]> there's #maildev [05:33] [reed]: k, even better for me ATM [05:34] [reed]: thanks [05:35] ddecator: they don't work? [05:35] micahg: no, menu and toolbar don't work. they show up, but clicking does nothing. manually going to the site works [05:38] ddecator: did the profile importer run on? [05:38] *ok [05:39] micahg: yes [05:39] seemed to finish faster than it should have though, imo [05:39] idk if it skipped over anything [05:39] it said it was successful though [05:39] ddecator: do you have 2 profile directories now? [05:40] micahg: no, just one [05:40] ddecator: :( [05:41] i take it there should be 2? [05:42] ddecator: in that folder how many do you have? [05:43] micahg: in .mozilla i have one seamonky folder with one profile in it.. [05:44] ddecator: k, I don't know if that's normal or not, what's the profile name? [05:45] micahg: ph8lc8g0.default, it's the only one listed in profiles.ini [05:46] ddecator: k [05:53] imbrandon: k, so install seamonkey from archive and set up bookmarks, home page, and any other settings you can think of...mail... [05:53] imbrandon: then try the version from my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test and upgrade and verify everything is in tact [05:54] k [05:54] will be just a few grabbing 200mb source ;) [05:54] imbrandon: k [06:05] micahg: upgrading now [06:08] micahg: everything looks sane [06:09] afk [06:11] imbrandon: thanks [06:12] imbrandon: bookmarks work? [06:18] ddecator: yes seemed to, i'll check it again in a few minutes ( got 20 things going :P ) [06:18] imbrandon: np, that's just the only issue i ran in to when i tried [07:45] ddecator: imbrandon: thanks for your help this evening [07:45] micahg: anytime [07:57] is there an FF 3.7 update in the works? the xr1.9.3 update just broke it for me.. [07:57] ddecator: update? [07:58] * micahg committed the OOPP fix this evening [07:58] micahg: i just updated and there was one for xulrunner 1.9.3, but now FF 3.7 isn't working [07:58] ddecator: what do you mean not working, should be the same as before? [07:59] micahg: homepage won't load, no sites will load.. [07:59] ddecator: OOPP issue? [07:59] micahg: trying to figure it out. safe mode still doesn't work, let me create a new profile [08:00] ddecator: should be fixed tomorrow [08:00] micahg: ok, because nothing will load right now, even with new profile.. [08:00] ddecator: even launchpad? [08:01] micahg: nothing, no google, no websites at all [08:01] ddecator: k, well, let's see if it works tomorrow [08:01] micahg: k [08:16] nikolam: hardy SM2 packages in my PPA :) [08:16] nikolam: backup your profile first === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:08] Derevko, hi, i'm looking at your merge request right now [10:09] Derevko, usually, i prefer 1 change per commit [10:09] Derevko, for timeout vs coreutils, it's a problem for ubuntu [10:12] Derevko, ubuntu still has 7.4, Debian has 8.4. timeout moved in 7.5 :P [10:15] and for xbase-clients vs x11-apps, i'm not sure. i remember i had to add that in order to make xvfb work [10:27] fta: xbase-clients was removed and splitted out, now is a metapackage for transition [10:27] hold on, i'm commenting in launchpad [10:32] done [19:06] BUGabundo, http is gone again [19:07] I know [19:07] m6 [19:07] it was last Friday night [19:07] I still have it in mine [19:07] 5.0.386.0 (45407) Ubuntu [19:07] i've just committed something that's supposed to speed up the browser. [19:08] Candidate: 5.0.388.0~svn20100424r45543-0ubuntu1~ucd2 [19:08] guess I need to upgrade then [19:08] it's for tomorrow [19:08] fta: can't you _not_ include the http removing stuff? [19:08] kinda forget to include it ? [19:08] maybe they won't notice it [19:08] could you upgrade, bench it and rebench it tomorrow to see if it's really faster? [19:09] tooooooo many tabs open [19:09] that http thingy is not an option [19:09] give me a few minutes [19:09] chromium-browser --user-data-dir=/tmp/x1 --disk-cache-dir=/tmp/x2 [19:10] i tried with peacekeeper but the score varies too much [19:10] will it spawn a new browser, even with one open? [19:10] yes [19:10] wow [19:10] that's cool! [19:10] it's a different profile/cache [19:10] how many can I open ?? [19:11] FF won't let you do do that [19:11] i use that everywhere, for greader in appmode, for some webapps, .. [19:12] need [19:12] *neet [19:13] let me make a nice alias for it [19:13] using two mktmp variables :) [19:13] the patched version is in sandbox: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+packages [19:21] fta: $ chromiumdatadir="$(mktemp -d)";chromiumdiskcache="$(mktemp -d)";chromium-browser --user-data-dir=$chromiumdatadir --disk-cache-dir=$chromiumdiskcache [19:26] fta: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/chromium-browser_5.0.388.0~svn20100424r45543-0ubuntu1_i386.deb 32bits only ? [19:27] x64 still building [19:28] ok [19:28] ping me when its ready [19:28] BUGabundo, why do you need this alias, it's a non-reusable profile.. [19:28] I have bad memory [19:29] that way I can simply use that to start *any* ammount of new profiles [19:33] fta: ctrl+b reverted too????? [19:33] seems so [19:33] I really have no idea what in those guys mind :( [19:34] I need a browser that *works* [19:34] crtl+shift+b [19:34] even if running trunk [19:34] I rather have ctr+b [19:34] fork it :) [19:34] shift is to much works [19:35] I was further then this [19:35] if m6 really messes my life [19:35] either I go back to FF [19:35] or fork chromium [19:35] i never used ctrl+b until you mentioned it [19:35] and call it chromium_user_ideas [19:35] I use it N times per day [19:36] I have the bar hidden unless I need on of the bookmarklets [19:36] i just have the bm toolbar on the new page tab, it's enough for me [19:37] right [19:37] I use that too [19:37] not as much [19:37] is there a way to force a shortcut in one of the new page icons? [19:42] shortcut? [19:42] you mean the vignettes? [19:43] no idea [19:44] the liltle squares, with the image of the site [19:46] pin them [19:46] you can move them, or make them stick (with the pin) [19:47] tried that [19:47] but I can't find a page I want [19:47] I have one (gmail) pinned already [19:47] BUGabundo: if fta respins xul193 and ff37, it should work fine again [19:48] micahg: work what? [19:48] everything is dandy here [19:48] * micahg will be back later [19:48] Flash [19:48] flash is broken ? [19:48] lol [19:48] BUGabundo, you can close those vignettes to make room for new ones, then pin the one you need [19:49] micahg, you need a respin of umd? [19:50] fta: so no _manual_ way to force just one url? [19:50] i don't know any [19:50] BUGabundo: out of process plugins was [19:50] fta: for me it doesn't matter, if he wants it now, then maybe [19:51] micahg: ahhh I think I have that disable [19:51] micahg: I would love to have flash fixed in chromium [19:51] even html5 will fail to interact in many videos :( [19:52] BUGabundo: well, it'll work after a respin [19:52] or tonight with the new upload [19:52] soooo...is FF3.7 not working for anyone else? [19:53] ddecator: it won't work for anyone ATM if OOPP isn't disabled [19:53] micahg: huh, i thought i had it disabled.. [19:54] i can't even get to about:config to check =\ [20:02] BUGabundo, flash and html5 videos are fine for me in chromium [20:04] I can't change volume [20:04] on youtube [20:05] wfm, just tried on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko [20:07] I can't change volume [20:07] http://www.youtube.com/html5 [20:07] http://www.youtube.com/html5 [20:07] are you on html5 beta? [20:08] you said flash [20:08] (2010-04-25 19:51:52) freenode: even html5 will fail to interact in many videos :( [20:10] hm, confirmed. maybe a regression then, i remember it worked at some point [20:10] yes [20:15] micahg: if you still need me ill be around for a short while [21:21] gnomefreak: haven't started yet :( [21:23] micahg: ok well im doing email >300 so ill be here a while. or we can do it tomorrow i should have alot more time than [21:23] gnomefreak: tomorrow is almost too late [21:23] shit [21:24] ok the plan is to use same source but disable sunbird part? [21:25] gnomefreak: yeah, Tuesday 0:00 UTC is deadline [21:28] * gnomefreak not sure how to do that. i cant recall what file it is that says built this or what not. ok when im done with email if i have more time i will grab source and see what can be done but the problem that i am having is that using update-source(m-d job) will onlt give me the stable version. I would also like a build for PPA. i [21:28] gnomefreak: I can try to figure it out in a bit [21:29] i am hoping to get up and here around 6-7am [21:30] gnomefreak: I'll keep that in mind [21:35] something is wrong [21:36] ok found it [21:37] we really need to clean out the team branches. we have outdated branches as well as ones we dont update or use [21:38] gnomefreak: I'll work on that for maverick :) [21:39] micahg: cool. im grabbing sunbird branch and look at it when email is done (hoping it will grab 1.0 since i havent tried in a long time. [21:40] gnomefreak: you should pull it with the tag [21:46] brb looking to see if i have those in my commands file. i had a big issue in Sept 2009 and i have to try to remember alo tof things again (hence why im not having time for Lucid cycle. but i can not go into the cause of this. [21:50] gnomefreak: should be ./debian/rules DEBIAN_TAG=SUNBIRD_1_0b1_RELEASE=1.0~b1 [21:51] no need for update-orig? [21:51] gnomefreak: no, that should generate a new tarball if it's using the m-devscripts system [21:52] * micahg checks [21:52] trying [21:52] nope that doesnt work either [21:52] gnomefreak@Development:~/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x$ ./debian/rules DEBIAN_TAG=SUNBIRD_1_0b1_RELEASE=1.0~b1 [21:52] cd: 1: can't cd to build-tree/mozilla [21:52] test -x debian/rules [21:53] i get prtty much the same thing using .debian/rules update-orig [21:53] gnomefreak: ah, it's because the mozclient conf is old [21:53] gnomefreak: I'll have to move it in source and update [21:53] gnomefreak: did you have a change to test seamokney? [21:53] *chance SM [21:53] micahg: i didnt change it for SM2 [21:53] gnomefreak: no, I did :) [21:54] thats most likely why it started getting 2.1 instead of 2.00 [21:54] :) [21:54] gnomefreak: well, that's because comm-central brancehs [21:54] *branched [21:54] right [21:54] gnomefreak: and it's about to branch again :) [21:54] * gnomefreak never had a chance to ply with mozclient [21:55] yeah i heard [21:56] gnomefreak: could you test SM2 from my PPA? [21:56] micahg: i am [21:57] gnomefreak: oh, how is it? [21:57] so far no issues but its only been 1 day so far. friday and the time i have been here today [21:57] gnomefreak: really, that's great [21:58] i just st it as default browser so more testing [21:59] gnomefreak: k, bookmarks are ok [22:00] testing. i need to figure out if it uses html or json [22:01] * gnomefreak things drag and drop to :toolbar" or whatever the bar under the adddress/reload [22:02] yeah i cant add them there for saome reason [22:03] gnomefreak: is there an error on the error console? [22:03] not sure let me check [22:05] i dont see it anywhere. [22:06] gnomefreak: Tools -> Web Dev -> Error Console [22:07] ok looking i have to clear it and try again [22:10] micahg: alot of BMDS is undefined it gives a chrome://..... link [22:10] oh and line numbers [22:11] gnomefreak: pastebin please [22:12] yep its from dragggin it. ok i will also my bookmarks only show up if i use the button on the bar. if i go to bookmarks from menu it doesnt list them just allows managing and such [22:12] gnomefreak: I could very well not be installoing something [22:14] * gnomefreak having a few issues not related to SM but i thinkn X [22:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/422397/ [22:17] there are a crap load of the first one [22:17] different line #s [22:18] oh and it uses HTML and that is fine however it doesnt add the toolbar bookmarks that i draged and droped in firefox [22:19] gnomefreak: well, keep in mind it's Firefox 3.5.x [22:19] it adds its own and wont let me remove or add others [22:20] if i ever get screen shot working i will show you what i mean just need the keystrokes [22:21] how can I print a website to image? [22:22] using cups, to svg , makes it multipage [22:24] well i cant get a screenshot of my bookmarks but they moved into the menu bookmarks finally [22:24] everytime i hit alt the menu goes away [22:25] ummmmmmmm [22:26] ok micahg i say we dont use it. something is reallyy wrong for example i use menu or toolbar bookmarks optiona nd it doesnt open anything [22:26] yep none [22:27] BMDS is undefined line 1083 i9s what shows up when trying to opena bookmark [22:30] micahg: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1453/seamonkey20toolbar.png look at the bar with home bookmarks seamonkey.... i cant add or remove wny of them [22:31] i am guess they are all related to chrome crap. chrome has always had issues afaik [22:31] * gnomefreak goes for drink and smoke while i am on the phone [22:38] well at least thunderbird only has one bug here atm [22:38] gnomefreak: which one? [22:39] * micahg starts anotehr local SM2 build to see what's missing [22:40] micahg: the one you were going to look at but here is the bug anyway bug 564738 [22:40] Launchpad bug 564738 in thunderbird "Thunderbird does not honor the "start reply below quote"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564738 [22:40] gnomefreak: I thought that was working again [22:40] nope not here it isnt [22:41] gnomefreak: extension conflict? [22:41] are you sure you are not thinging of the sending emails? [22:42] gnomefreak: no, I tested this one it WFM [22:42] micahg: only one is enigmail nothing else is enabled/working [22:44] hold on a minute screenshot comeing [22:46] micahg: i made the compose window longer so you can see everything here is the screenshot http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6325/thunderbirdreplybug.png [22:46] notice the top left of body window is the curser [22:47] gnomefreak: yep, what are the settings for that identity? [22:47] reply below message [22:47] there is a screenshot on the bug of that [22:48] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44433356/Thunderbird-bug_%23564738-1.png micahg [22:48] that for all accounts. i set them all the same [22:48] and i finally got rid of the yellow bar :) [22:49] maybe beacuse you are using stable lucid version not daily? [22:50] gnomefreak: did you check to see if the second account there has that set, that's the account in both the screenshots I saw [22:52] micahg: all of the accounts are set that way [22:52] gnomefreak: ok, just asking if you verified lately [22:52] all 8 accounts [22:55] micahg: i added a screenshot of the addons window to upstream bug just to rule out that [22:55] mozilla 441402 [22:56] Mozilla bug 441402 in Public Pages "downloads of certain type of themes report "invalid file hash" error" [Normal,Verified: duplicate] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=441402 [22:56] opps [22:56] mozilla 559832 [22:56] gnomefreak: I have it [22:56] oh ok [22:56] Mozilla bug 559832 in General "Thunderbird does not honor the "reply below quote" setting" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559832 [22:56] k, but I was wondering if you checked the settings on that second account recently [22:57] yep when i took screenshot i looked at all of them [22:57] k [22:57] gnomefreak: anything on error console in TB? [22:57] not sure ill check [22:59] nope nothing [23:02] i thought we dont have libmozjs and havent [23:16] gnomefreak: we don't [23:16] chrisccoulson: hi, still working out a few issues, hopefully in the morning we'll have SM2 and lightning [23:16] than why would we update it in Ubuntu :( let me see if i still have the email [23:17] micahg - ok, thanks [23:17] gnomefreak: there's an open request upstream to make it possible for us to have it again [23:17] i've just upgraded my desktop to lucid tonight. epic fail! [23:17] chrisccoulson: really [23:18] chrisccoulson: what's wrong? wfm, but I use Xubuntu :D [23:18] micahg - xorg uses 100% cpu and is pretty much unusable [23:18] for some reason, it starts on vt6, on top of getty [23:18] chrisccoulson: is that the GLX issue? [23:19]