[00:53] <IdleOne> h00k: now you have to ask fcuk112 to change his nick also. Only thing is we have allowed him to keep that nick up until today :/
[00:56] <h00k> IdleOne: oh, we have? I wasn't aware
[00:57] <IdleOne> h00k: I have seen that nick several times
[00:57] <IdleOne> never seen any problems from them
[00:58] <h00k> alrighty
[00:58] <IdleOne> if you like I'll ask him?
[00:59] <IdleOne> not fair to ask one and not the other
[01:11] <IdleOne> whoops
[01:11] <IdleOne> better
[01:38] <IdleOne> must be a full moon
[01:38] <IdleOne> :/
[01:40] <Mamarok> IdleOne: no, still 3 days to go
[01:42] <IdleOne> well the animals are starting to come out
[02:54] <bazhang> semula is needhelp from +1 yesterday
[09:26] <topyli> @bansearch Nefarious #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:26] <topyli> good topyli
 I asked for operator access, and he gave it to me. anyone know about this? or just trolling
[12:12] <IdleOne> what channel?
[12:12] <bazhang> claims in #ubuntu
[12:12] <bazhang> but judging from his later comments seems to be trolling
[12:12] <IdleOne> yeah I doubt anybody gave +o
[12:13] <IdleOne> you reading backlogs?
[12:13] <bazhang> said it was two channels and he removed a bunch of trolls
[12:13] <IdleOne> when was this?
[12:13] <bazhang> when he said it? just now in #defocus
[12:14] <IdleOne> hmm, it's BS
[12:14] <IdleOne> who did he say gave him +o?
[12:17] <IdleOne> heh I'm not voiced there
[12:17] <bazhang> he didn't say, but the bantracker has no mention of him that I can see
[12:58] <IdleOne> bazhang: I have asked this question probably a hundred times before but who owns/codes ubottu ?
[12:58] <IdleOne> and can I share that info with users in #ubuntu?
[12:59] <bazhang> IdleOne, collaboration I believe between t simpson jus si j pds though many contribute such as m4v
[12:59] <bazhang> !bot
[12:59] <IdleOne> ok so if a user wants to talk to the coders of ubottu where would I direct them?
[13:00] <bazhang> #ubuntu-bots-devel ? or just #ubuntu-bots I forget
[13:00] <IdleOne> thank you
[13:25] <IdleOne> have a good day. see ya laters
[13:26] <bazhang> bye
[14:42] <jussi> !owner | IdleOne
[15:30] <gord> @btlogin
[15:33] <funkyHat> Samuel-*AFK hasn't been banned in -offtopic as far as I can see
[15:33] <funkyHat> A few times in #ubuntu though and a couple of times in #ubuntu+1
[15:34] <LjL> hi
[15:34] <gord> hello
[15:35] <funkyHat> HeLjLo
[15:35] <LjL> in -ot, laptop!n=skdfhgds@host86-162-110-203.range86-162.btcentralplus.com is banned, and according to popey saying "[16:26] <popey> ACTION notes laptop is Samuel-NotAFK", the current Samuel-NotAFK is ban evading
[15:41] <gord> if this fellow does anything wrong i'll do something but i'd need a little more of an actual link between those two names, its a different host
[15:44] <funkyHat> Would be cool if the bantracker showed more obviously which entries were bans and which were kicks
[15:44] <h00k> I searched Samuel% and didn't see anything, but I didn't check hosts
[15:45] <ikonia> err why are we pushing PPA's
[15:45] <funkyHat> http://ubottu.com/bans.cgi?channel=&operator=&query=samuel&kicks=on&bans=on&oldbans=on&mutes=on&oldmutes=on&floodbots=on
[15:45] <ikonia> oops
[15:46] <gord> i can't get ubottu to respond to me today, is she a little under the weather?
[15:46] <persia> !ping
[15:46] <persia> Nope.
[15:46] <gord> that just means the ping module is working :P
[15:51] <persia> Stuff that doesn't need to talk to LP seems quick.  Talking to LP seems slow.  Given traffic in #launchpad, I think this is an LP thing.
[15:57] <nhandler> @login
[15:58] <nhandler> persia: Besides syncing the list of people able to login to ubottu, I'm not sure what else ubottu would use LP for.
[15:58] <nhandler> Besides stuff like !info (which may or may not use LP)
[15:59] <persia> nhandler: Gathering bug data.  Checking status with !info.
[15:59] <nhandler> Ah yeah, bug data. Does it actually use LP for !info ?
[15:59] <persia> I think so.  jpds was looking around at LP data when trying to add reason-for-package-removal notes.
[16:00] <persia> Might use packages.ubuntu.com, but I'd hope not, as that's usually out-of-date
[16:01] <jpds> persia: No, ubottu doesn't use my LP bug API stuff.
[16:01] <jpds> The packages data comes from a local APT cache.
[16:02] <persia> Oh.  I wonder why that's slow then, when the brain was so fast.
[16:02] <jpds> The branch still has to be merged: https://code.launchpad.net/~jpds/ubuntu-bots/bugs-via-launchpad-api/+merge/17957
[16:03] <jpds> It would  be awesome if it was on the main bot, but E_NO_ONE_CARES.
[16:03] <persia> jussi: Hey.  I care!
[16:04] <persia> tsimpson: ^^
[16:04] <jpds> "This branch affects me too."
[16:05]  * persia mumbles about a pending ubumirror merge needing review
[16:05] <persia> No such button :(
[16:07] <jpds> persia: I thought I merged that.
[16:08]  * elky kinda thought it used LP for the bug stuff
[16:10] <h00k> @login
[16:10] <h00k> @btlogin
[16:10] <jpds> elky: It does, but it scrapes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/566579/+text instead of using the API.
[16:10] <elky> jpds, eww.
[16:11] <elky> jpds, though i'm suspecting that's due to timeframe
[16:11] <jpds> Yeah, probably.
[16:12] <elky> pretty sure the bug stuff appeared well before there was much api stuff
[16:13] <elky> i could be wrong though
[16:14] <gord> yeah, but the launchpad API is just REST so its not all that much different, just more stable
[16:16] <elky> in that it doesn't require the whole shebang to be rendered out, yeah.
[16:21] <persia> Bot bug support preceeded LP API by ages and ages.  Doesn't mean it's not worth fixing now, for performance :)
[16:22] <elky> the bot could use every bit of speedup it can get honestly
[16:22] <jpds> That's true for everything in my universe.
[16:22] <elky> hehe
[16:24] <jpds> The bug I linked above being a prefect example of "Eeek, LP FAIL."
[17:53] <jussi> @now utc
[18:16] <ikonia> maco: I try
[19:00] <jussi> REMINDER: Ubuntu IRCC Meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:01] <persia> Did the time change?  I think I remember it being an hour later previously (as in, I'd wake up to it, rather than seeing it before going to bed)
[19:02] <Pici> blame daylight savings stuff
[19:03] <jussi> also, it alternates times and days every 2 weeks
[19:03] <persia> Y'all should tell your governments to stop making you change clocks :p
[19:04]  * persia cheers mneptok for having found a sane haven
[19:04] <jussi> lol
[19:05] <persia> Looking at the agenda, I think it's more the alternation than the DST: the DST just pushed the earlier meeting to the very end of my day, whereas the late meeting used to be at the very beginning of my day.
[20:03] <h00k> FYI, watch out for a cuberts in #ubuntu for flooding/trolling
[20:18] <gnomefreak> what are we doing with ~ubuntu-irc?
[20:18] <Pici> Temporarily we're going to close it and then decide later what *exactly* we want to do.
[20:19] <gnomefreak> :( ok so i have to find 2 channels to add
[20:19] <gnomefreak> but works for me
[20:19] <Pici> gnomefreak: er.. we're talking about the lp team, not the channel
[20:20] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:20] <gnomefreak> good thansk
[20:20] <gnomefreak> thanks
[20:20] <Pici> But it doesn't hurt to be in the channel :)
[20:20] <gnomefreak> its win 9
[20:21] <gnomefreak> still not sure what it is used for. lots of list posts but not 1 said we are going to do *
[20:21] <Pici> Its where people come and ask questions about our irc presnse, some international channels use it as a moderation space for channel disputes.  People go there to ask for member cloaks....
[20:22] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[20:22] <guntbert> hi, yesterday I suggested an addition to !sudo - are there questions remaining?
[20:23] <Pici> Okay, I'm supposed to be writing a research paper... so.. I'll be off now.
[20:23] <gnomefreak> Pici: have fun ;)\
[20:23] <Pici> 13:21:36 <ubottu> In ubottu, guntbert said: sudo is <reply> sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli ) programs with  superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For  graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with  sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:24] <Pici> gnomefreak: thanks... could you or someone else look at guntbert's factoid? :)
[20:24] <gnomefreak> looking
[20:25]  * ikonia wakes
[20:25] <gnomefreak> one thing bothers me about it but right now im trying to figure out if it is me
[20:26] <gnomefreak> sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli )
[20:26] <guntbert> gnomefreak: the external link?
[20:26] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[20:26] <guntbert> gnomefreak: I didn't change that part - I only suggest adding the last sentence
[20:27] <gnomefreak> its missing something like sudo is a command that gives you super user powers ?
[20:27] <guntbert> gnomefreak: not if you read beyoond the parentheses
[20:28] <guntbert> maybe a bit of shuffling needed :-)
[20:28] <gnomefreak> the part i mean is "sudo is a command to run command-line
[20:28] <gnomefreak> "\
[20:29] <guntbert> sudo is a command to run command-line programs with  superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli ) . Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For  graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with  sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:29] <guntbert> is that better?
[20:29] <gnomefreak> s/command to run to run command-line/in a terminal
[20:30] <gnomefreak> ok im good with it. ikonia you have anything about it?
[20:30] <gnomefreak> @login
[20:30] <gnomefreak> ubottu: thanks
[20:31] <gnomefreak> !sudo
[20:32] <guntbert> not quite :)
[20:32] <gnomefreak> so the only change for most part is after gksu
[20:33]  * gnomefreak will change it just give me a minute or 2
[20:33] <guntbert> gnomefreak: right - that was my part :-)
[20:35] <gnomefreak> !sudo
[20:35] <gnomefreak> good?
[20:35] <gnomefreak> crap
[20:36] <gnomefreak> !no sudo is <reply> sudo is a command to run command-line programs with  superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli ) . Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For  graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with  sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:37]  * gnomefreak really need to learn how to fix it instead of re doing it all
[20:37] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a few
[20:37]  * persia notes that `sudo xterm &` works just fine, and that the fancy GUI sudos are mostly interesting when run by scripts.
[20:38] <guntbert> gnomefreak: good - thx  (only very picky persons would point out that extra blanks between with   and superuser  that I mistakenly created) :-))
[20:39] <gnomefreak> guntbert: its ok i dont think it will be an issue. i can fix it but it would be after i do email
[20:39] <gnomefreak> !info openbravo karmic
[20:40] <guntbert> gnomefreak: its ok with me - thx for the support - have a nice time
[20:40] <gnomefreak> !info openbravo lucid
[20:40] <gnomefreak> guntbert: np thanks for the ideas on it
[20:40] <guntbert> bye
[20:40] <gnomefreak> by
[20:45] <tsimpson> jpds: the LP API stuff will be merged soon after lucid comes out
[20:58] <topyli> !chat
[20:58] <topyli> a bit out of date :)
[20:59] <topyli> !pidgin
[20:59] <topyli> !empathy
[21:03] <topyli> !no empathy is <reply> Empathy is the default instant messaging and video client for GNOME. Since Karmic, it has been the default client in Ubuntu, replacing !pidgin
[21:04] <topyli> oh i has no powah
[21:04] <topyli> !no chat is <alias> empathy
[21:04] <ikonia> !no empathy is <reply> Empathy is the default instant messaging and video client for GNOME. Since Karmic, it has been the default client in Ubuntu, replacing !pidgin
[21:04] <ikonia> !no chat is <alias> empathy
[21:04] <ikonia> !no chat is <alias> empathy
[21:04] <ikonia> there you go
[21:05] <topyli> thanks, we're up to date now :)