[00:00] <Brimstones> Its "Brasero"
[00:00] <ogen> I'd appreciate some help. I've looked thru all the menus myself. Please help me find out how to limit the burn speed in brasero. If there is a way?
[00:00] <popo> I just installed a new theme with theme installer. It's not in preferences > appearance. Where is it then?
[00:00] <Fiveways> timClicks: like apt-get --purge?
[00:00] <Fiveways> err
[00:00] <ogen> Brimstones thank you for your spelling correction. Can you help me get the job done, slowly?
[00:00] <dani> olaa
[00:00] <Jordan_U> limen_: There is data in these "bad" blocks that is required to play the video though. Once ddrescue has read the entire disk, skipping blocks with a bad crc, it goes back and tries reading smaller parts of the failed blocks to get what good data there is out of them. So at some point during the "splitting" passes the required bits will be filled in and the iso will suddently become playable. You can safely try playing the iso w
[00:01] <Typos_King> !es |
[00:01] <timClicks> Fiveways: not really. I have added a PPA that I want to get rid of
[00:01] <spydmobile_> I have a need to execute a script after the network start but before some services start. Karmic has a bug and rc.local does not run, can someone suggest a better place for my code?
[00:01] <Typos_King> ugghh
[00:01] <Brimstones> ogen: Np, but i think someone else can help you.
[00:01] <Typos_King> !es | Guest37361
[00:02] <timClicks> popo: the theme wasn't installed correctly
[00:02] <stealth-> hey guys, when scanning a network, if I was to scan 192.168.1.0/24, what would that be called?
[00:02] <greezmunkey> spydmobile_: put your script inside of the script that starts the first service ;)
[00:02] <ogen> I hope so Brimstones but I am beginning to think that it's not possible. barbarella has suggested another program then gone silent (to me)
[00:02] <inifile> hello
[00:02]  * Fiveways moonwalks
[00:02] <popo> i dont see Guest37... what's wrong with me/
[00:02] <drdozer> hi
[00:02] <Jordan_U> limen_: The problem for DRM developers like Sony is that the real DRM (CSS) has been utterly useless for years, so they need to come up with something new, but still have it work with old legitamate DVD players.
[00:02] <stoiss_> join #linux
[00:02] <timClicks> popo: try opening preferences > appearance & then dragging the theme from nautilus
[00:02] <drdozer> I've just upgraded to the new ubuntu pre-release
[00:02] <popo> timClicks, how do you know?
[00:02] <ogen> I would like to control the burn speed when I burn. Is this possible in brasero ??
[00:02] <drdozer> since then, my machine has been permanently hitting the disk
[00:03] <spydmobile_> greezmunkey: thansk but I was looking for something more specific to use in place of rc.local since it is broken in karmic
[00:03] <timClicks> popo: if it was, it would be in that folder
[00:03] <popo> timClicks, in compressed form?
[00:03] <ogen> I would like to control the burn speed when I burn. Is this possible in brasero ??  If not what program do I need?
[00:03] <timClicks> drdozer: try #ubuntu+1
[00:03] <drdozer> thanks
[00:03] <Typos_King> ogen:   I saw you.... I... use k3b.. and in k3b I know where, so :|
[00:03] <stoiss_> Hmm when trying to join this channel with my firewall on. it wont let me..the irc says its connecting at port 8001 but with that port open i cant.. does this use any other ports ?
[00:04] <timClicks> popo: yes
[00:04] <popo> timClicks, it wont allow me
[00:04] <Jordan_U> limen_: The result is things like this, where they introduce errors that *most* real DVD players happen to not be affected by. It's not perfect though, and many real DVD players can't play these disks either. It's really a shame that companies like Sony can get away with inflicting BS like this on their users.
[00:05] <ogen> Typos_King, k3b OK will install it and see. What a handicapped system this is.
[00:05] <greezmunkey> spydmobile_: what are you referencing that says rc.local is broken in 9.10
[00:05] <stoiss_> Uh.. and can anyone recommend me a good browser that will remove all traces on exit ?
[00:05] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:05] <Brimstones> ogen: If you cant run at max speed of what your bus can handle you should put the burner on a different bus (ide scsi etc)
[00:05] <limen_> Jordan_U, jesus -_- things like this pisses me of
[00:05] <f31n> hey, hope someone is here online, ya know if they put the raid config tool out at ubuntu 9.10 or do i find this tool (at the installation) only at a lts cd?
[00:05] <Typos_King> ogen:   well.... not sure if Brassero can't do it, I just don'tuse it, is all hehe
[00:05] <spydmobile_> greezmunkey: here is one of a million: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/471266
[00:05] <Brimstones> ogen: Something isnt very right if you need to set a slower speed.
[00:06] <greezmunkey> stoiss_: Chromium when using incogneto mode...
[00:06] <greezmunkey> spydmobile_: checking, thx
[00:06] <limen_> Jordan_U, I should return those 30 discs to Sony and crave my money back
[00:06] <stoiss_> greezmunkey,  the Crome browser ?
[00:06] <popo> timClicks, that didn't work
[00:06] <inifile> hello, I can't find the the block size of a ide hdd in the /proc. how I can get it ?
[00:06] <spydmobile_> greezmunkey: np, but I really need an alternative to mount my shares in....
[00:07] <ogen> brimstones, Typos_King -- when you need to overburn or you are bur4ning something which is a program you are advised to burn more slowly. Perhpas you didnt know that.
[00:07] <Jordan_U> limen_: Sony's solution to this problem with Blue ray is that if they ever come up with a new DRM scheme (since blue ray has already been cracked too) they will have *executable code* on the new disks that will silently upgrade your player's firmware to support the new DRM.
[00:07] <greezmunkey> stoiss_: It exists in Chromium, but I believe the same option is available in Chrome.
[00:07] <Typos_King> Brimstones:   many cds these days, usually cdrw ones, seem to require slower speeds for such, I have a couple which are labeled as 4x, so, they burn at 4x, I have other cdr's which can do 52x...so
[00:07] <stoiss_> greezmunkey,  perhapps you can answer me why i cant connect to IRC when i have port 8001 opened in my firewall. thats what it says these servers use.
[00:07] <stoiss_> greezmunkey,  ok thanks
[00:08] <gleg> Hello!  I'm trying to install empathy instant messenger on hardy, particularly the voip and video functionality, but I get the error that libtelepathy-farsight0 is not found.  I've updated everything and still nothing.  Any ideas?
[00:08] <ogen> Typos_King, and my pack with 10 or so left has no labeling.
[00:08] <f31n> ya know if they put the raid config tool out at ubuntu 9.10 or do i find this tool (at the installation) only at a lts cd? or do i have to change to expert modus? alternate cd ... ?
[00:09] <barbarella> ogen:i looked at it and as far i can tell you, you can't set the speed..oeps you're right
[00:09] <greezmunkey> spydmobile_: the fix for rc.local not starting is at the bottom of the link you posted! :)
[00:09] <Brimstones> ogen: I always burn everything at full speed -speed=full etc and it has always worked except 15 years a go when me and some friends bought our first burner at 1x or 2x speed (Hilariously expensive kiss-burner) :) .. then we had to lower the speed for the Dr.Data records /hehe
[00:09] <popo> I just installed a new theme with theme installer. It's not in preferences > appearance. Where is it then?
[00:09] <linxeh> f31n: what tool ?
[00:09] <Typos_King> ogen:  the speed label is ON the cd itself, in the transparent space in the center, between the middle-hole and the writable area
[00:10] <spydmobile_> greezmunkey: I dont have a login, I see 10 comments but no solution?
[00:10] <greezmunkey> Make sure the symlinks to /etc/init.d/rc.local are in /etc/rc[2-5].d... you should have, for example, a symlink from /etc/rc5.d/S99rc.local to /etc/init.d/rc.local, which is the script that actually executes /etc/rc.local.
[00:10] <f31n> well i tried last time with 8.4 at the installation i was able to install a software raid ... it has been a lts, server cd --> now i tried to set up my pc with 9.4 but i don't find any way to set up a raid? oO?
[00:11] <MindSpark> how do I get java6 running on jaunty ?
[00:11] <Fiveways> -_-
[00:11] <h00k> !java | MindSpark
[00:11] <m4t> anyone know why a md raid1 using partitions starting at 64s on an wd advanced format drive would continuously come up as degraded on boot (eventually dropping to an initramfs), even after allowing a full rebuild after booting with 'bootdegraded=true'?
[00:11] <MindSpark> h00k: thanks
[00:11] <Typos_King> MindSpark:   by installing it :)
[00:11] <h00k> MindSpark: no prob :)
[00:11] <m4t> hardy/amd64
[00:11] <stoiss_> java can actually be quite tricky to work..
[00:11] <limen_> Jordan_U, jesus - so I have to let Sony install _their_ software into _my_ computer... forget it... And I asume this code will only be executable on windoze-machines
[00:12] <ogen> Typos_King, oops, I could have had a V8. I see it clearly. Actually it is in the shiny part on the top, ins ome dull area. Boing. is 48x AND now  I'm in brasero, chose what to burn (going to do it at regular speed) I click on burn, then it asks me for the "location for image" and suggests brasero.iso   --- This confuses me. I've never burned form the Brasero program before only from CD/DVD Creator which is an interface for Brasero. -- I am burning a data disc of mu
[00:12] <ogen> sic albums not an iso file.
[00:12] <stoiss_> when it comes to that.. windows IS easier..
[00:12] <stoiss_> sadly
[00:12] <spydmobile_> greezmunkey: ok, checking into this thanks!
[00:12] <f31n> @ linxeh :)
[00:12] <Typos_King> MindSpark:   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[00:12] <MindSpark> h00k:  sudo: update-java-alternatives: command not found
[00:12] <Brimstones> f31n: There arent any Graphical tools for Raid setups ?
[00:12] <greezmunkey> spydmobile_: checking here too :)
[00:12] <h00k> MindSpark: you're looking for Sun's Java, right?
[00:12] <MindSpark> h00k: yes
[00:13] <h00k> MindSpark: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin (it'll get you java and the browser plugin as well)
[00:13] <Brimstones> Can gparted be used for raid setups btw ?
[00:13] <arand> Brimstones: palimpsest I think, at least in Lucid it has some of those functions...
[00:13] <MindSpark> h00k:  Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "sun-java6-plugin"
[00:13] <f31n> yes there were oO? ok i c i have to install from 8.4 :)
[00:13] <zvacet> ogen: did you first choose new data project and after that select what you want to burn
[00:14] <f31n> i'll make a photo and post it ... if ya want to
[00:14] <f31n> ,)
[00:14] <vescha> www.mydomain.com
[00:14] <Typos_King> ogen:    when it ask for an .iso.... that means you choose to burn a cd image... not a 'data', not sure on brassero, but in k3b, you start a new 'data project', as opposed to 'audio', and that will do
[00:14] <vescha> www.mydomain.com
[00:14] <vescha> sorry
[00:14] <Typos_King> MindSpark:   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[00:14] <vescha> www.mydomain.com is a freaking scam, I got charged 33$ today for renewal of 2 domains that I bought in february this year
[00:14] <evinaff> hi everyone
[00:15] <MindSpark> Typos_King: same thing
[00:15] <h00k> !ot | vescha
[00:15] <maco> vescha: not exactly on topic...
[00:15] <vescha> i just wanted to say that
[00:15] <delac> MindSpark:  do you have multiverse and  restricted enabled in Software Sources?
[00:15] <Typos_King> MindSpark:   apt-cache search java;    check what you get
[00:15] <Macer> hm
[00:15] <Macer> looks like skanlite doesn't want to detect this dell aio
[00:15] <Typos_King> MindSpark:   the package IS sun-java6-bin
[00:15] <Macer> there has to be a way to get it to detect :)
[00:15] <Brimstones> arand: palimpsest didnt write anything for 2 hours. Why are you talking to him/her/yourself ?
[00:16] <MindSpark> delac: I only have ssh access, can you please provide me with the sources.list line ?
[00:16] <greezmunkey> spydmobile_: the links are here on my setup - must have been updated because I didn't create them
[00:16] <Macer> Apr 24 18:02:47 silver kernel: [672813.492257] generic-usb 0003:413C:5107.000D: hiddev97,hidraw2: USB HID v1.00 Device [Dell Dell A960] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-3/input2
[00:16] <Macer> hm
[00:17] <Brimstones> Macer: A what ?
[00:17] <Macer> dell all in one printer/scanner
[00:18] <arand> Brimstones: palimpsest is an application...
[00:18] <Typos_King> Macer:   ... have you checked the Dell cd if it included *nix drivers?   I had a samsung all-in-one and had linux drivers as well as macOS and win32
[00:18] <h00k> Macer: My Dad has one of those, you're out of luck. It's a rebranded Lexmark and Lexmark doesn't provide Linux drivers for that model
[00:19] <Brimstones> Macer: Load a generic driver for some scanner/scanners or see if dell has one for linux. Tricky, also foomatic, cups etc could have some driver. Id google a bit
[00:19] <pmcclelland> anyone else having problems with the wireless cutting in and out on 10.04
[00:19] <Fiveways> does dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg usually return something?
[00:19] <Brimstones> arand: Ah, never heard of that. Must be really new... whats it do ?
[00:20] <Daijoubu> How to install Karmic libs for libx264 under Lucid? O-O
[00:20] <Brimstones> arand: Im thinking "crap like beagle etc"
[00:20] <Macer> Brimstones: it's the scanning i want ;)
[00:20] <Macer> i'm trying to figure out how to try out a scanner driver
[00:20] <Macer> xsane isn't detectin gany devices
[00:21] <Brimstones> Macer: First a driver need to be loaded (v4l/v4l2 etc) then the programs will pick it up and use it
[00:21] <Macer> Brimstones: you have a site that explains how to do this?
[00:21] <barbarella> Macer:hardware info would be nice
[00:21] <Brimstones> Macer: Yes, its called google
[00:21] <Brimstones> ;)
[00:22] <spydmobile_> greezmunkey: Well wft? Not sure why, by rc.local is executing, Lol, thanks for holding my hand while I put my shoes on correctly ;-)
[00:22] <Macer> Brimstones: that's where i'm looking :-P
[00:22] <Brimstones> "samsung all-in-one" ?
[00:22] <Macer> it's a dell all in one
[00:22] <Macer> i'm going to check out dell's site and see if they have anything for it
[00:22] <delac> MindSpark: pick the ones you think you need: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/zVECNQeh
[00:22] <Brimstones> ok, its never a dell though :)
[00:22] <Macer> it's probably a lexmark
[00:23] <Brimstones> y
[00:23] <barbarella> Brimstones:thanks
[00:23] <delac> MindSpark: and notice that these are for server in FINLAND
[00:23] <Brimstones> np
[00:23] <delac> MindSpark: so change that
[00:24] <barbarella> Macer:and what does lsusb say?
[00:24] <greezmunkey> spydmobile_: should I tie them for you, or are you a velcro kind of guy? ;)
[00:24] <Brimstones> haha
[00:25] <Macer> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 413c:5107 Dell Computer Corp. AIO Printer A960
[00:26] <rqiao> I have a question
[00:26] <Typos_King> Macer:   got gimp?   checked to see if gimp can use it?
[00:27] <rqiao> I juts recently installed ubuntu while I originally had windows xp pro
[00:27] <rqiao> it won't let me boot back to windows xp
[00:27] <h00k> !grub2 | rqiao
[00:27] <rqiao> when i select it, it's jut a black screen with a blinking _ at the top
[00:27] <Typos_King> rqiao:    do a ->sudo update-grub;
[00:28] <h00k> rqiao: that link has a "recover grub" section
[00:28] <rqiao> thanks i'll try that
[00:28] <Typos_King> rqiao:    it'll scan partitions for it, find it, add it
[00:28] <Fiveways> is there any reason why going to system>administration>hardware drivers and activating the recommended driver shouldnt work?
[00:29] <Macer> Typos_King: i'm trying to find out where gimp scans
[00:29] <Typos_King> Macer:   what do you mean?
[00:29] <barbarella> Macer:maybe when you google for that you will get some answers
[00:29] <fcukmylife> who know the default path of fonts?i am using imagemagick to converte text into images
[00:29] <e1even25> hey im having problems connecting to my friends wireless network
[00:29] <rqiao> i juts did the   do a ->sudo update-grub; what should that have done?
[00:29] <Macer> barbarella: i am googling it
[00:29] <Typos_King> rqiao:    it'll scan partitions for it, find it, add it
[00:29] <timClicks> fcukmylife: try ./fonts/
[00:29] <Macer> there are tons of articles about printing but not how to get it to scan
[00:29] <Typos_King> heehe
[00:29] <Macer> jesus
[00:30] <cjay554> macer scanning physical copies?
[00:30] <rqiao> Windows Xp is there on the boot screen, i try to run it, but it juts goes to a black screen
[00:30] <Typos_King> christ? or jesus as in 'gheezus?'
[00:30] <e1even25> it usually just sits there and infinitely tries to connect
[00:30] <barbarella> rqiao:bad resolution
[00:30] <Macer> cjay554: well. i want to scan documents
[00:31] <rqiao> ?
[00:31] <fcukmylife> timClicks: there is not such a directory
[00:31] <Typos_King> rqiao:    you installed XP after ubuntu?
[00:31] <rqiao> no
[00:31] <cjay554> if your printer/scanner is connected then you can use xsane image scanner in the Applications > Graphics menu
[00:31] <rqiao> vice versa
[00:31] <timClicks> fcukmylife: create it
[00:31] <cjay554> then after its plugged inand set up press the giant "scan" button,
[00:31] <rqiao> excuse my lack of knowledge btw.
[00:31] <cjay554> but if your using 10.04 its called "simple scan"
[00:31] <timClicks> fcukmylife: create ~/.fonts/
[00:31] <barbarella> rqiao:f8 and start in vga modes
[00:31] <timClicks> and add .ttf files to it
[00:31] <rqiao> k
[00:32] <e1even25> can anyone help me with trying to connect to a wireless network
[00:32] <ogen> Typos_King> ogen:    when it ask for an .iso.... that means you choose to burn a cd image... not a 'data', not sure on brasero, but in k3b, you start a new 'data project', as opposed to 'audio', and that will do  ----> The first thing I di in Brasero was to choose, new project, then data project. That is why I was confused. I will go get k3b/ Then come back.
[00:32] <fcukmylife> timClicks: but i only want to know how the imagemagick find the fonts path?
[00:33] <barbarella> Macer:what does scanimage -L say?
[00:33] <Typos_King> ogen:  heheh, ok
[00:33] <Macer> Dell A920 USB 0x413c/0x5105 Good Relabelled X11xx model
[00:33] <Macer> well.. that's a good sign
[00:33] <Macer> it's listed as good on xsane's site
[00:34] <Macer> No scanners were identified.
[00:34] <Macer> let me read up on installing the backend for it
[00:34] <cjay554> mkay
[00:34] <inertial> how do I get the new version of nautilus with the ability to open new tabs without having to upgrade my version of ubuntu
[00:35] <rqiao> where do i press f8?
[00:35] <spydmobile_> greezmunkey: Thanks again, im outta here ;-)
[00:35] <soreau> inertial: You could try to install the dep but it probably has newer dependencies too
[00:35] <gleg> Hello again!  Just wondering if anyone has any idea why the package libtelepathy-farsight0, a package to enable voip under empathy, can't be found?  I'm using hardy and everything is updated.
[00:35] <Macer> Your scanner is not supported in Ubuntu. The most common type of scanner not supported is old parallel port or Lexmark All-in-One printer/scanner/faxes.
[00:35] <Macer> doh!
[00:35] <Macer> well. a dell a960 is a rebranded lexmark :/
[00:35] <Macer> so i guess that solves that problem
[00:35] <Typos_King> timclick:    /etc/fonts/fonts.conf   more or less
[00:36] <h00k> fcukmylife: can you please check your pm's?
[00:36] <greezmunkey> Macer: stay away from Canon scaners as well, learnt that the hard way!
[00:36] <fcukmylife> ?
[00:37] <barbarella> greezmunkey:canon...yes run
[00:37] <stoiss> This is seriously wierd.. If i open portrange 1-65353 on my firewall i STILL cant connect to this server (aparently port 8001) but if i disable the firewall i can.. what am i doing wrong ?
[00:37] <rqiao> How do i run vga mode?
[00:37] <h00k> fcukmylife: Would you mind changing your nickname to something less offensive? We keep the channels family friendly and I'm not finding that to be within the guidelines
[00:38] <fcukmylife> h00k ok
[00:38] <greezmunkey> stoiss: open those on incoming side??
[00:38] <stoiss> well i assume its TCP right ?
[00:38] <barbarella> fcukmylife:like igiveup or something
[00:38] <stoiss> im using guarddog as frontend..
[00:39] <rqiao> how do i run xp in  vga mode
[00:39] <greezmunkey> stoiss: what are you connecting with on 8001
[00:39] <IdleOne> rqiao: windows?
[00:39] <stoiss> well when i want to get to this irc server.. and even with all ports opened it wont let me connect
[00:39] <barbarella> rqiao:when you restart your computer hit F8
[00:39] <rqiao> yea
[00:39] <h00k> rqiao: I'm not sure what you're asking, you might want to check ##windows for windows support
[00:39] <IdleOne> rqiao: /join ##windows for help with Windows
[00:39] <rqiao> thanks
[00:39] <rqiao> well
[00:40] <rqiao> i try hit buttons at startup
[00:40] <rqiao> but it wont let me
[00:40] <rqiao> as in like my wireless keyboard doesn't connect
[00:40] <IdleOne> whosyourdaddy: not much better then the previous nick you just left with
[00:40] <respire> ubuntu was designed from the ground up to be usable for the normal user right
[00:40] <barbarella> rqiao:F8 could be a boot device option aswell
[00:41] <IdleOne> whosyourdaddy: but acceptable I guess
[00:41] <rmrfslash> How can I install the Sun JRE in Lucid?
[00:41] <whosyourdaddy> - -
[00:41] <Typos_King> rquiao:  you do get a Grub menu with xp in it, and when chosen, xp gives you a black screen, right?   as opposed to you're shown a menu different
[00:41] <rmrfslash> I only see openjdk and gcj
[00:41] <respire> so is it really OK I have to use pppd instead of networkmanager half the time to get a link up
[00:41] <fool__> how can i make "print to file" the default printing option for firefox ?
[00:41] <rqiao> yes
[00:41] <rqiao> xp gives me ablack screen when i select it
[00:41] <arand> respire: Not from the ground up, but designed, yes.
[00:41] <rqiao> aside from a blanking _ in the top left
[00:41] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin;  hehe, jre will ask you for the 'bin' package anyway
[00:41] <rqiao> blinking*
[00:41] <stoiss> respire,  the networkmanager in ubuntu for most parts really is.. well.. bad..
[00:42] <MindSpark> ok, I finally got java6 working. How do I set the JAVA_HOME variable on startup ? in the init.d dir ?
[00:42] <stoiss> ive always had to use wicd in order to get any wifi working
[00:42] <rmrfslash> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-bin
[00:42] <rmrfslash> ????
[00:42] <Typos_King> fool__    dunno, only spot I can think of offhand will be, check in about:config
[00:42] <rmrfslash> Again, this is Lucid.
[00:42] <respire> stoiss, i think i could make it work like magic, better than the ones you get with the windows mobile broadband programs
[00:43] <respire> but i am to selfish to do it for no reason
[00:43] <Typos_King> rmrfslash:  sudo apt-get install sun-<tab>    // apt-get can use autocomplete with tab :)
[00:43] <h00k> rmrfslash: please see #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support
[00:43] <stoiss> i suppose so.. but ive only had problems with it
[00:43] <barbarella> rqiao:be patient, aslong it is not blue
[00:43] <rqiao> so
[00:43] <rqiao> the blinking is normal?
[00:43] <rqiao> i waited at most 5 minutes
[00:44] <Typos_King> rquiao:  the blinking means, is not booting up cuz I'd think it has no ntldr in the partition to boot with
[00:44] <barbarella> rqiao:when you restart your computer hit F8 an start safe mode
[00:44] <respire> if someone can think of a selfish reason for me to unsuck network manager i will do it :)
[00:44] <Typos_King> rquiao:  ntldr, being win32 boot loader, needed in its partition mbr
[00:44] <rqiao> it doesnt give me an option to hit f8
[00:44] <h00k> rqiao: ##windows will be better suited to fix your windows partition, then feel free to ask us about how to restore your grub
[00:45] <rqiao> k
[00:45] <rqiao> thanks
[00:45] <barbarella> rqiao:yes you have
[00:45] <respire> i mean i even ended up having to use echo to write ATDT to the USB tty to get online
[00:45] <ogen> bingo Typos_King -I found it. A. You cannot drag in the files like you can with CD/DVD creator (that is a simple frontend for brasero that pops up when a blank disk is inserted)) B. So when I add via the ADD + button and THEN CHOSE BURN I get a dialog box that gives me burn speeds. --- Thanks for your help and barbarella 's help and  Brimstones help. --- SUM: I cant do it with the simple interface. It gets confused when you drag files, must change a dropdown box FR
[00:45] <ogen> OM ISO -EVEN IF YOU STARTED OUT CHOOSING DATA. -- and so I am doing this test disk. And I found out. And I am sharing my findings.  Tata for now.
[00:45] <Typos_King> rquiao:  you don't happen to have a burner?
[00:45] <rqiao> i do
[00:46] <Typos_King> rquiao:  you don't happen to have 'Hiren's bootable cd' handy? :)
[00:46] <ogen> New question: is there any way to get to the data on an Ubuntu WUBI installation except by booting up from that disk in wubi-ubuntu?
[00:46] <rqiao> :O nope D:
[00:47] <Theowning> Hmm, I really messed up my boot and dont really know where to go from here. Upgraded to grub2 and it was working fine until I uninstalled splashy and now it's pulling errors all the time saying "return: 24: Illegal number:". Could the lack of splashy be causing this?
[00:48] <rqiao> Oh, and another question..I try to install starcraft with wine
[00:48] <stoiss> ogen wubi is pretty much linux in a folder. its very compressed
[00:48] <rqiao> but whenever I choose a file to install within
[00:48] <rqiao> it tells me that there's an invalid path, and to choose again
[00:48] <Typos_King> rquiao:  http://www.hirensbootcd.net/   <--- get it, burn it, it has an array of options, including 'boot with ntldr' if not present, like your case, also has a live-xp and utilities to do scandisk on the xp partition for any errors, which seems why you might get the blinking cursor only
[00:48] <rqiao> Ok, thanks.
[00:48] <barbarella> ogen:should be mountable in windows
[00:49] <Typos_King> rquiao:  they have 10.4 out, I use 10.2 works quite well, so :)
[00:49] <greezmunkey> Typos_King: nice link ;) thx
[00:49] <rqiao> Ok
[00:49] <Macer> ah well. let me bust out the kvm and hook the linux box and the aspire1 up to it since linux can't use this scanner
[00:49] <Macer> that sucks :)
[00:49] <ogen> barbarella, wubi is in a folder not in a partition. You cant see the data from windows nor when I boot from another ubuntu disk.
[00:49] <Brimstones> ogen: cool
[00:50] <Macer> anybody have any suggestions for a cheap scanner that has a doc feeder and works in linux?
[00:50] <Macer> i remember having an hp scanner/printer that worked
[00:50] <Macer> i just need something light to scan bills so i can shred them
[00:51] <Typos_King> Macer:     not sure on the cheap part, but as I said, I had a Samsung all-in-one, the cd had drivers for macOSX/win32/linux
[00:51] <barbarella> ogen:try poweriso
[00:51] <rqiao> so
[00:51] <rqiao> i juts burn the cde
[00:51] <rqiao> cd
[00:51] <rqiao> stick it in
[00:51] <rqiao> and restatr?
[00:51] <FloodBot1> rqiao: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <Macer> Typos_King: wow really?
[00:51] <Macer> that's kind of rare ... i think i've only ran into a few pieces of hardware that actually had linux drivers
[00:51] <ogen> stoiss yes, there doesnt seem to be any way. That should be in the docs. I will check on that. Makes it hard for windows to track how full the HD is I would think if it cannot "see" it all or not report it in Windows Explorer.
[00:52] <the_file> any1 know the name of bash html browser that supports images?.
[00:52] <Typos_King> rquiao:  burn the .iso, just the .iso, the .iso will be the 200mbs file in the .zip with the file extension of .iso :), and boot with it, yes, try using the 'boot with ntldr' option maybe
[00:52] <rqiao> ok
[00:52] <rqiao> cool.
[00:52] <Macer> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3553273&Sku=H24-L2689A
[00:52] <Macer> wow that's expensive heh
[00:52] <stoiss> ogen id go with a dualboot..
[00:52] <ogen> barbarella. I have everything I wanted. ( plus the name of now 3 other things to try)
[00:52] <stoiss> greezmunkey,  you dont happen to know which ports are used for freenode irc do you ? aparently 8001 isnt enough
[00:53] <barbarella> ogen:than you're happy
[00:53] <Typos_King> Macer:     for that price it better cook breakfast too :|
[00:53] <Macer> Typos_King: hehe
[00:53] <greezmunkey> stoiss: are you creating a server, or conecting to one?
[00:53] <ogen> stoiss. that's in the future. I have this now. I went with this because I did not want to make a gparted error.  Now I am only ubuntu till further notice.  (Short on HD space though)  -- thanks.
[00:53] <kermit> in 9.10 my sound recording stopped working recently, did that happen to anyone else?
[00:54] <ogen> yes barbarella thanks.
[00:54] <the_file> any1 know the name of bash html browser that supports images?.
[00:54] <stoiss> greezmunkey,  connecting.. i cant connect to this server with firewall on.. even when allowing all ports.. but other servers which uses 6667 which is the standard works fine
[00:54] <Typos_King> the_file:    wha?
[00:54] <Macer>  Dell
[00:55] <stoiss> ogen ah ok.. well always have one partition for your OS and another for your files..
[00:55] <Macer> ah.. yeah.. it doesn't work.. ah well
[00:55] <Typos_King> the_file:    if it does images, doesn't that make it GUI?
[00:55] <Macer> let me see if this xerox i'm looking at on tigerdirect does
[00:55] <greezmunkey> stoiss: your firewall should allow you to make outbound connections. Apparantly it is ignoring established connections - or isn't letting you get out in the first place.
[00:55] <Typos_King> Macer:     *cough* or craighlist *cough*
[00:55] <randomuser_> Can anyone please help with video editing on ubuntu?
[00:56] <greezmunkey> stoiss: how did you install the FW?
[00:56] <kaushal> hi
[00:56] <barbarella> the_file:ascii art maybe
[00:56] <Macer> Typos_King: heh
[00:56] <kaushal> are there any site specific browsers for ubuntu ?
[00:56] <stoiss> greezmunkey,  but since all other servers work..i can open and block ports as i like.. but its just this one
[00:56] <Macer> i'm trying to see if a xerox documate is supported
[00:56] <BiggFREE> Hi
[00:56] <stoiss> kaushal,  konquor
[00:56] <IdleOne> !hcl | Macer
[00:57] <Macer> i don't even think this dell can print anymore. i just use it for scanning :)
[00:57] <stoiss> kaushal,  but not one specific for ubuntu.. its linux.. you take your own pick
[00:57] <Macer> IdleOne: heh. i'm looking at the ubuntu scanning support site that has the hcl for what it supports
[00:57] <Macer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[00:57] <Macer> hm. xerox isn't listed
[00:57] <kaushal> stoiss: is the spelling correct ?
[00:57] <kaushal> I dont see it in google
[00:58] <stoiss> kaushal,  id recommend you either run kpackagekit or synaptics and type somthign like Firefox
[00:58] <stoiss> thats how you should install programs if you can..
[00:58] <Typos_King> the_file:    why do you need a bash browser with images?
[00:58] <Typos_King> if I may ask :{
[00:59] <barbarella> Macer:sometimes you have to give up
[00:59] <BiggFREE> Will I need to download Ubuntu 10.04 If I already have Ubuntu RC 10.04 ?
[00:59] <bastid_raZor> BiggFREE: no
[00:59] <BiggFREE> ty :)
[00:59] <Macer> barbarella: give up on what?
[00:59] <Typos_King> kaushal:   what do you mean by 'site specific browsers for ubuntu'?
[00:59] <Macer> i'm just going to buy a scanner that is supported ;)
[00:59] <IdleOne> BiggFREE: no, Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:59] <Macer> this dell aio is a piece of junk. i only kept it around for the cheap scanning
[00:59] <Macer> heh
[01:00] <barbarella> Macer:epson?
[01:00] <BiggFREE> Ok IdleOne
[01:00] <BiggFREE> I will
[01:00] <BiggFREE> bbl
[01:02] <randomuser_>  I googled and found no tutorial link for fecthing a video from my camera and then adding a mp3 music for the background of the video on any linux video editing software
[01:02] <IdleOne> randomuser_: openshot
[01:02] <bastid_raZor> !cinelerra | randomuser_
[01:04] <cloudnarok2938> can someone help me with ndiswrapper? can't edit the blacklist
[01:05] <cloudnarok2938> anyone know how i can add some names to the blacklist for ndiswrapper?
[01:05] <psycho_oreos> what do you mean?
[01:06] <cloudnarok2938> im editing a file in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it won't let me
[01:06] <Macer> hm
[01:06] <Macer> looks like xsane doesn't support a documate 150
[01:06] <Macer> too ba
[01:06] <Macer> too bad
[01:06] <psycho_oreos> you need to be root, try sudo
[01:06] <BiggFREE> Back
[01:07] <kaushal> Typos_King: Tray icon changes colour to show new messages have arrived
[01:07] <cloudnarok2938> "you do not have the permissions necessary to save the file"
[01:07] <kaushal> Typos_King: http://campfirenow.com/
[01:08] <psycho_oreos> cloudnarok2938, yes you must start the editor as root for that config file
[01:08] <cloudnarok2938> how do i start the editor as root?
[01:08] <IdleOne> use sudo
[01:08] <IdleOne> !root
[01:08] <cloudnarok2938> im typing sudo su
[01:08] <psycho_oreos> cloudnarok2938, what editor you used?
[01:08] <cloudnarok2938> gedit
[01:08] <psycho_oreos> cloudnarok2938, gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[01:09] <cloudnarok2938> i love you!!!!!
[01:09] <cloudnarok2938> thank you
[01:09] <barbarella> cloudnarok2938:sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[01:09] <cloudnarok2938> woooot
[01:09] <cloudnarok2938> thank you everyone
[01:09] <psycho_oreos> sudo su won't help because that's not a GUI front-end, it'll probably run in background and terminate eventually
[01:10] <cloudnarok2938> so gksu is another kind of "sudo"
[01:10] <psycho_oreos> no gksu is gnome frontend for sudo.. sudo is a terminal command
[01:10] <psycho_oreos> s/terminal/terminal\ console/
[01:11] <cloudnarok2938> thanks this clears it up
[01:12] <Typos_King> kaushal:   I still don't get it :|
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo | cloudnarok2938 ..this may help a bit more
[01:13] <cloudnarok2938> sweet
[01:13] <cloudnarok2938> so i guess i'll use gksu from now on, and reserve sudo for terminal commands
[01:14] <cwraig> I just saw ubuntu installed on a tv screen at my local mcdonalds
[01:15] <hiexpo> hello all
[01:16] <jeff__> lost sound in my laptop. I still have all of my icons but no sound no matter how loud I turn it up.
[01:16] <greezmunkey> cwraig: You sure it wasn't McBuntu ??
[01:16] <bastid_raZor> heh
[01:17] <Typos_King> jeff__    make sure you 'sliders' are not muted and up :)
[01:17] <cwraig> lol,  tv that is normaly playing cofee animations was just sitting there with gnome and the desktop background set to the golden archers but the rest of the theme was the ubuntu colours (9.04)
[01:18] <jeff__> No they are all the way up and the mute is off.
[01:18] <Brimstones> Green gas, whats that possibly ?
[01:18] <o11c> hm, I've discovered a kinda major bug in /bin/sh
[01:18] <greezmunkey> o11c: do tell.
[01:19] <o11c> does echo '\\' print one backslash or 2?
[01:19] <hiexpo> yes what is it
[01:19] <Typos_King> jeff__    move up/down the PCM slider, to see for any effect
[01:19] <arand> o11c: If it is really a bug, reprot it to launchpad
[01:19] <Typos_King> o11c:   should be a backslash IIRC
[01:19] <Brimstones> Besides Spulphuric dioxide Clorides etc
[01:19] <o11c> in dash (default sh) it prints 1, in bash it prints 2
[01:19] <Brimstones> Argon ?
[01:20] <Typos_King> ...
[01:20] <o11c> but I don't know what POSIX says
[01:20] <jeff__> no effect but the icon states dummy out put 100%
[01:20] <greezmunkey> o11c: It should print one, the first is seen as an escape
[01:20] <o11c> even in single quotes?
[01:20] <greezmunkey> o11c: ah, I'd have to man that one...
[01:21] <o11c> in bash, there is no escaping in single quotes, really annoying
[01:21] <Typos_King> o11c:   should be a backslash using double-quotes, single-quotes on the other hand do not do any 'interpolating' and thus they literally handle the strings, and thus in single-quotes, you'd get 2 backslashes
[01:21] <o11c> of course, the man pages are just symlinks
[01:21] <edbian> I'm trying to learn how to install my own screensaver.  I learned that I need to make a module for xscreensaver.  I'm looking at the .xscreensaver module in my /home folder.  Where are the screensavers executables located?
[01:22] <greezmunkey> Typos_King: nice ;)
[01:23] <greezmunkey> o11c: so from that there's a bug? Typos_King what do you think?
[01:23] <o11c> okay, the sh man page isn't a symlink to dash's, and it does say what bash does for '
[01:23] <the_file> is there a puppy theme for ubuntu?.
[01:23] <o11c> literal meaning for ALL CHARACTERS except single quote itself
[01:24] <the_file> or at least something that has a menu button on the bottom left corner
[01:24] <Typos_King> greezmunkey:   no bug, that's standard behaviour for single-quotes and double-quotes, not just in bash, same is in Perl and in php
[01:24] <o11c> but each has it's own standard
[01:24] <Macer> trying to find a document fed scanner that works with xsane is a pain :) most of them are flatbed
[01:24] <amicrawler> hello my lmms keeps crashing with out warning
[01:24] <amicrawler> i'm using 10.4
[01:25] <IdleOne> !10.04
[01:25] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm currently on this site: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4002
[01:25] <amicrawler> i'm using webui
[01:25] <Sachse_Siechtum> What does "live session" mean?
[01:25] <Brimstones> o11c: How useless isnt it to take something like bash or gnome-vfs and just call them dash and gvfs respectively ?
[01:26] <o11c> what do you mean?
[01:26] <bp0> how do you make sure that a specific disk always gets a certain /dev/sd*
[01:26] <amicrawler> so when will 10.04 go stable ?
[01:26] <Brimstones> ollwhatisaiduh
[01:26] <bp0> amicrawler, 29th
[01:26] <IdleOne> amicrawler: see the above link ubottu provided
[01:27] <amicrawler> so i need to deal with it until then >?
[01:27] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - did ya get your toolbar back?
[01:27] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[01:27] <hiexpo> !hi
[01:27] <IdleOne> hiexpo: yes.
[01:27] <hiexpo> kool
[01:27] <o11c> hm, sh.1 mentions it but sh.1posix doesn't
[01:27] <EvaLuaTe> what program could I use under ubuntu to open/extract 'application/x-pak' files?
[01:27] <Macer> hah.. found one
[01:28] <Brimstones> o11c: sh is a symlink to the "bash" or your choise.
[01:28] <greezmunkey> Macer: a driver?
[01:28] <michaelxq> i used to have windows OS and i've just installed Ubuntu and i can't find a driver for my built-in camera
[01:28] <o11c> yes, but there's a separate man page
[01:28] <Typos_King> Macer:  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=296&name=Sheetfed
[01:28] <amicrawler> exit
[01:28] <michaelxq> what can i do?
[01:28] <o11c> oh, wait
[01:28] <o11c> it IS a symlink, huh
[01:29] <o11c> ah, I see
[01:29] <Zelozelos> i need to open up some hd space and i was wondering about ibus, ibus-m17n, ibus-table, ibus-gtk, python-ibus and libibus1, any body know if i can remove all these w/o causing any harm?
[01:29] <edbian> I'm trying to learn how to install my own screensaver.  I learned that I need to make a module for xscreensaver.  I'm looking at the .xscreensaver module in my /home folder.  Where are the screensavers executables located?
[01:29] <o11c> dash.1 never contains it's own name
[01:30] <ConcreteRose> :) huh?
[01:30] <o11c> well, that DEFINITELY makes it a bug
[01:30] <ConcreteRose> gluttonuous what?
[01:30] <ConcreteRose> what means gluttonous?
[01:30] <duffydack> butt
[01:31] <IdleOne> ConcreteRose: to take more then you need.
[01:31] <IdleOne> !ot | ConcreteRose
[01:31] <ConcreteRose> oh, ....
[01:31] <ConcreteRose> oh your still here?
[01:31] <ConcreteRose> i remember you
[01:31] <Typos_King> sounds like gluttony, as in eating-too-much :P
[01:31] <IdleOne> yeah, I'm like furniture
[01:31] <Macer> hm. guess an hp scanjet 8250 is hard to get a hold of
[01:32] <hiexpo> lol
[01:32] <ConcreteRose> glutton eating too much? oh ok
[01:32] <ConcreteRose> i just watch the dictionary
[01:32] <michaelxq> i can't find driver for my built-in camera
[01:32] <michaelxq> what should i do?
[01:32] <Odin> Hello
[01:32] <IdleOne> !hi | Odin
[01:32] <IdleOne> michaelxq: what model?
[01:32] <iksf> heya all
[01:32] <o11c> huh, naturally there is already another bug
[01:33] <o11c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/259671
[01:33] <Typos_King> ConcreteRose:  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Glutaeus   :P
[01:33] <michaelxq> sony vaio vgn-fz21e
[01:33] <ConcreteRose> oh ok
[01:33] <ConcreteRose> huh ok
[01:33] <Typos_King> which may have been what  he meant :|
[01:33] <ganja> hi
[01:33] <Guest66833> I've been having alot of troubles with Transmissions. I'm currently connected to 17 peers, but I'm getting 0 kpbs
[01:33] <Clorox> Hey is there any support for the 2nd Gen Ipod Touch?
[01:33] <mrb_> Hello,,, anybody can help me setting up FreeRADIUS Server for my coffee shop ?!
[01:33] <ganja> someone know how to delete a schemas in gconf?
[01:33] <IdleOne> Typos_King: I simplified the definition but this is still offtopic.
[01:34] <ConcreteRose> Oh ok, that sounds like a word, thats put there. Never seen that before.
[01:34] <ConcreteRose> I thought how could that happen, they even started removing networks/internet/dictionary websites on the net, and stuff like that.
[01:34] <ConcreteRose> I even got the wrong dictionary of a very basic level, i thought, where is all the stuff gone....
[01:34] <ConcreteRose> saw a scooter outside, i thought huh? why is he doing so fishy
[01:35] <bastid_raZor> mrb_: possibly try #ubuntu-server
[01:35] <michaelxq> sony vaio vgn-fz21e
[01:35] <IdleOne> ConcreteRose: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <mrb_> bastid_razor: thx
[01:35] <the_file> can gnome ubuntu look like puppy with the menu button on the bottom left corner?.
[01:35] <the_file> I can't find anything close to it
[01:35] <rsr> hi
[01:36] <rsr> anyone using a macbook 5,5
[01:36] <IdleOne> the_file: right click the bottom panel and Add to panel
[01:36] <rsr> I was wondering if I have totweak the fans in any way
[01:36] <rsr> sometimes it gets pretty hot
[01:36] <IdleOne> the_file: add what you want to the panel and then you can delete the top one or remove what you don't want
[01:36] <IdleOne> !pm | the_file
[01:37] <Macer> hm. a scanjet 8250 seems like the best solution
[01:37] <f31n> Brimstones, arand: okay, i downloadet now 9.10 alternate, aht the cli installation there is at partitioning a point, software raid, for future ,) best regards and thanks
[01:37] <Macer> go hp go :) heh.. it's not that expensive either if i get it from ebay
[01:37] <IdleOne> the_file: yes you can re-arrange the items in the panels how you like
[01:37] <xx22xx> how to access wifi adapter through vmware ! can somebody help.
[01:38] <Macer> ok well. thanks for the help earlier
[01:39] <Typos_King> rsr:    no I don't have one.. but .. is it a desktop?  you can just add more fans :), fans are cheap
[01:39] <michaelxq> Idle0ne: my model is vaio vgn-fz21e
[01:39] <rsr> Typos_King, no its a laptop
[01:40] <IdleOne> michaelxq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=749411
[01:41] <rsr> I have heard that  Apple use a custom power management chip that no linux distro knows how to operate correctly, leaving the CPU in an over-volted state.
[01:41] <rsr> can anyone back that up?
[01:41] <michaelxq> Idle0ne: The requested URL /R5u870 was not found on this server.
[01:41] <IdleOne> michaelxq: yes, sorry bout that. I am still looking
[01:41] <xx22xx> can anybody pl. help! how to access wifi adapter through vmware.
[01:42] <michaelxq> Idle0ne: thx for the help
[01:42] <Typos_King> rsr:    you can add an extra fan to it too, http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Q9046TTHL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
[01:42] <hiexpo> xx22xx, was there not a setup for it when you started
[01:42] <rsr> Typos_King, I wouldnt want to invest in that now
[01:43] <rsr> has anyone heard of the issue I stated above?
[01:43] <hiexpo> xx22xx, what kinda wifi adapter is it
[01:43] <xx22xx> in iwconfig it shows eth0; to capture packets
[01:43] <hiexpo> xx22xx, what distro are you trying to run to capture packets ?
[01:44] <hiexpo> xx22xx, and why ?
[01:44] <xx22xx> ubuntu 9.10 for fun
[01:44] <hiexpo> xx22xx, this is not a teach you to hack site
[01:45] <xx22xx> yep!! not hack...my frnd
[01:46] <snap--> lol
[01:46] <hiexpo> xx22xx, what program are you trying to run aircrack-ng
[01:46] <snap--> xx22xx, check out backtrack 4
[01:47] <ganja> nobody know how to delete a schema in gconf?
[01:47] <IdleOne> michaelxq: I found a link that may help you http://bigbrovar.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/ubuntu-on-sony-vaio-fz21e/
[01:47] <hiexpo> snap--,  - they won't help him lol they will tell him to kick rocks and learn
[01:47] <xx22xx> using bt3 with cd-rom; i want to try it in ubantu 9.10 but using vmware but simply cannot bring up the eth0 adapter through NAT.
[01:48] <IdleOne> michaelxq: scroll down a bit to the webcam section and follow instructions
[01:48] <hiexpo> !backtrack-linux
[01:48] <michaelxq> Idle0ne: ok i'll try...thank you
[01:48] <xx22xx> BACKTRACK--3
[01:49] <acovrig> why doesn't aumix find mixers?
[01:49] <cobra-the-joker> hiexpo  , backtracklinux is like any distro if you dont know what you are doing
[01:49] <hiexpo> go to #backtrack-linux
[01:49] <hiexpo> cobra-the-joker,  - yep
[01:49] <Guest64716> hi, i'm new to irc chat...how do i request help with an ubuntu issue here?
[01:50] <xx22xx> how to bring up the eth0 through NAT (USING VMWARE) through windows.
[01:50] <hiexpo> !ask
[01:50] <acovrig> Guest64716, just ask
[01:50] <Theowning> I really messed up my boot and dont really know where to go from here. Upgraded to grub2 and it was working fine until I uninstalled splashy and now it's pulling errors all the time saying "return: 24: Illegal number:". Could the lack of splashy be causing this?
[01:50] <IdleOne> Theowning: maybe something splashy took with it
[01:51] <Theowning> well the odd thing is
[01:51] <Theowning> when i shut down it still mentions splashy
[01:51] <acovrig> how do I install/list audio interfaces?
[01:51] <Theowning> saying that i should set a proper framebuffer size
[01:52] <Theowning> and im not really sure where to go from here to fix it except maybe reinstall splashy?
[01:52] <hiexpo> cobra-the-joker,  - i have ran that distro since day one and they are not going to hold his hand there  lol
[01:52] <cobra-the-joker> lol
[01:53] <acovrig> anyone?
[01:53] <Guest64716> thanks, using 9.10 on a eeepc 1000he, all was well until today.  after entering password at the promp the system reboots back to the password prompt.
[01:53] <jonas> HI, I'm here
[01:53] <IdleOne> Theowning: reinstall splashy so you have a working system and then see about how to remove it.
[01:53] <Theowning> k i'll give it a whirl
[01:54] <jonas> you can reinstall the OS, and get back the archives
[01:55] <Guest64716> if i've have separate partitions for swap, home, boot and tmp can i reinstall without over writing the home partition?
[01:55] <razjtrsfhdgjhkd> yes
[01:55] <xx22xx> ARP linktype is set to 1 (Ethernet) - expected ARPHRD_IEEE80211,
[01:55] <xx22xx> ARPHRD_IEEE80211_FULL or ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead.  Make
[01:55] <xx22xx> sure RFMON is enabled: run 'airmon-ng start eth0 <#>'
[01:55] <xx22xx> Sysfs injection support was not found either.
[01:55] <FloodBot1> xx22xx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <hiexpo> !flood
[01:56] <IdleOne> Guest64716: yes. chose the advanced install and make sure not to format the partitons you want to keep
[01:56] <razjtrsfhdgjhkd> no
[01:56] <Guest64716> idleone: thanks
[01:56] <xx22xx> sorry
[01:56] <IdleOne> Guest64716: when you get to the partitioning part
[01:56] <IdleOne> :)
[01:57] <plomeg> re!
[01:57] <michaelxq> Idle0ne: where do i find build-essential package if i can't find it in synaptic package manager?
[01:58] <hiexpo> xx22xx, just pay for internet quit trying to steal it or figure it out knowone is going to help you with that problem it is a crime so if you want to do that figure it out no hand holding
[01:58] <bastid_raZor> !info build-essential
[01:58] <logicklz> can someone please tell me if this command will work in the terminal
[01:58] <logicklz> java -Duser.home="/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/log" -Xmx512m -Xms64m -classpath ".;javaclient.jar;images.jar;properties.jar;resources.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/javaclient/ASBSCore.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/JFreeChart/jcommon-1.0.0.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/JFreeChart/jfreechart-1.0.0.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/JFreeChart/jcommon-
[01:58] <IdleOne> michaelxq: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:58] <logicklz> 1.0.0-rc1.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/xmlbeans-2.0.0/lib/xbean.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/xmlbeans-2.0.0/lib/jsr173_api.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/jsse/JSSE.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/jsse/jnet.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/jsse/jcert.jar;termsandconditions.jar;/home/logicklz/Nedbank_CFD/JavaClient-Prd/lib/lobo/lobo.jar" s
[01:58] <logicklz> e.front.sbclient.module.system.gui.SBClient
[01:58] <FloodBot1> logicklz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:58] <bastid_raZor> michaelxq: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:59] <Daijoubu> How to install libavformat-unstripped for Karmic under Lucid?
[02:00] <hiexpo> !lucid
[02:00] <bastid_raZor> Daijoubu: shouldn't you be asking in #ubuntu+1 ?
[02:00] <michaelxq> Idle0ne: thank you
[02:00] <michaelxq> bastid_raZor: thank you
[02:00] <IdleOne> michaelxq: no problem
[02:00] <Andy-at-home> guys, how do i extract a .7z file?
[02:00] <xx22xx> how to enable RFMON!!!
[02:01] <Guest00101100101> right click and extract here @ Andy-at-home
[02:01] <bastid_raZor> !7zip | Andy-at-home
[02:01] <Andy-at-home> from command line sorry
[02:01] <hiexpo> xx22xx, www.aircrack-ng.com
[02:01] <jeff__> lost sound in my laptop. I still have all of my icons but no sound no matter how loud I turn it up They are not muted , I have just started with ubuntu and i really do not understand the system
[02:01] <Guest00101100101> That, I don't know.
[02:02] <xx22xx> I WILL GO THERE!!! THANKS FOR U R TIME. BYE
[02:02] <Andy-at-home> sudo apt-get install p7zip says the package may be missing
[02:02] <lokvendra> tengo un problema para montar un HD
[02:02] <nsadmin> logicklz: so when you tried to run this command what happened?
[02:02] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: man 7z   .. e for extract
[02:02] <Guest00101100101> What are you trying to do Andy?
[02:02] <lokvendra> al intentar acceder devuellve este error:No se pudo montar SANSUMG 2 Authentication is required
[02:03] <Andy-at-home> No manual entry for 7z
[02:03] <Theowning> IdleOne, reinstalled splashy and still no luck
[02:03] <Andy-at-home> ??
[02:04] <logicklz> nsadmin ... at the end it say it cant find the main class... exit
[02:04] <IdleOne> Theowning: not sure how to help but details about erros would be usefull to others in here who might be able to help
[02:04] <bastid_raZor> !info p7zip
[02:05] <Theowning> they scroll by way to fast, do you know how i could access some logs for it?
[02:05] <Andy-at-home> Package p7zip is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:05] <IdleOne> Theowning: not sure where the boot logs are saved
[02:05] <smt> hi, is here anybody who is able to help me fix my dsdt tables for acpi? system freezes when run with acpi (apm not available by hardware, so this is really anoying)
[02:06] <Theowning> :(
[02:06] <Andy-at-home> i get that error with sudo apt-get install p7zip
[02:06] <IdleOne> Theowning: ask! someone here knows
[02:06] <Andy-at-home> to i need to update the packages list or get it from somewhere else?
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: apt-cache policy p7zip   ..what output is given?
[02:07]  * Andy-at-home loves it when a project comes to a standstill for something that is so easy
[02:07] <ganja> p7zip-full no?
[02:07] <hiexpo> Andy-at-home, sudo apt-get update
[02:07] <hiexpo> Andy-at-home, sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: ganja hit the package name.. that is the one you need.
[02:08] <gernblansten> quit
[02:08] <hiexpo> p7zip is in the repo's
[02:08] <amphore> B[02:08] <Andy-at-home> Installed: (none)
[02:08] <Andy-at-home>   Candidate: (none)
[02:08] <Guest66833> I've been having alot of troubles with Transmissions. I'm currently connected to 17 peers, but I'm getting 0 kpbs
[02:08] <Guest66833> what's happening?
[02:08] <nsadmin> Guest66833: shift it into drive!
[02:09] <CuteChick> hello
[02:09] <CuteChick> i have a question
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:09] <CuteChick> [ubuntu] is a god distro for hosting??
[02:09] <nsadmin> ask away I guess
[02:09] <nsadmin> sure and so are others
[02:09] <Andy-at-home> ubuntu 9.04 minima;l
[02:09] <madruga> Any official member of Ubuntu this?
[02:10] <CuteChick> i need postfix with dkim
[02:10] <nsadmin> CuteChick: the whole point, is YOU pick.
[02:10] <hiexpo> Andy-at-home, admin>admin>symaptic type p7zip install full
[02:10] <jonas> ubuntu 10.04 I want update now
[02:10] <CuteChick> works fine on ubuntu?
[02:10] <TheVenerableZ> Is it possible to customize the boot screen using grub2/10.04 beta ?
[02:10] <freezway> @jonas run the update manager with -d
[02:11] <nsadmin> never tried
[02:11] <hiexpo> !10.04
[02:11] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: p7zip is in jaunty as well. p7zip-full is the package you need though.
[02:11] <lokvendra> I have a HD problem amont par
[02:11] <jonas> what is happening with you HD?
[02:11] <lokvendra> I have a HD problem amont par
[02:11] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: possibly you have universe repository commented.
[02:12] <nsadmin> CuteChick: what does dkim do? why do you need this specifically?
[02:12] <lokvendra> error al intentar Acceder devuellve Este: No Se PUDO suela o SANSUMG 2 Se requiere autenticación
[02:12] <Andy-at-home> yeah, i cant get htop either
[02:12] <Andy-at-home> how can i fix?
[02:12] <BiggFREE> bbl
[02:12] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <lokvendra> jonas: devuellve when I go this error: Unable to mount SANSUMG 2 Authentication is required
[02:13] <BiggFREE> tc
[02:13] <Andy-at-home> ah, ran out of time
[02:13] <Andy-at-home> ill get it tomorrow
[02:13] <Andy-at-home> thanks tho
[02:13] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: wait!
 when I go back this error: Unable to mount SANSUMG 2 Authentication is required
[02:13] <bastid_raZor> Andy-at-home: remove  the #'s in front of the line contains "universe" in that file then update your package list and try again
[02:14] <mossby> Question: Let's say ive got 4,000 pngs, all named 0001.png, 0002.png etc.. Is there a way to delete any image not divisible by 10? so I would keep 0010.png, 0020.png etc, and delete everything else... ive been doing it by hand and its driving me crazy.
[02:14] <madruga> have any official ubuntu member here?
[02:14] <nsadmin> do all the files you want to delete end in 0.png
 have you a user guide?
[02:14] <ganja> rm *1.png *.2.png.....
[02:15] <ganja> something like that will be faster
[02:15] <nsadmin> madruga: ask your real question
[02:15] <Andy-at-home> only 2 entries in the sources
[02:15] <hiexpo> /1ask
[02:15] <the_file> ANY1 GOOD WITH PUPPY LINUX?.
[02:15] <hiexpo> !ask
[02:15] <Andy-at-home> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main and deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security main
[02:15] <Theowning> IdleOne, a lot of the errors are that "return: 24: illegal number:" that i mentioned before ie. " * Starting Deferred execution scheduler atd , return: 24: illegal number: Starting"
[02:15] <hiexpo> !puppy
[02:15] <the_file> I need to change the video size from 1024 x 768 to another one!
[02:15] <the_file> aww
[02:16] <mossby> ganja: nice!
[02:16] <madruga> nsadmin, I wonder if the new version of ubuntu, is fixed a particular bug, if not, I would report it
[02:16] <rsr> http://th-th.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=58812459188&topic=16464
[02:16] <IdleOne> Theowning: I'm sorry but I don't know how to help with this
[02:16] <madruga> "bug"
[02:16] <rsr> im backing up right now
 I never looked nothing like this
[02:16] <Theowning> kk thanks anyway
[02:16] <the_file> dam
[02:17] <nsadmin> madruga: probably #ubuntu+1 is where you want to talk about that? it's in lucid?
 I am Argentine and use google translator in my country does not get help.
[02:17] <lokvendra> I have no manual. can you help me?
[02:17] <hiexpo> !lucid
[02:17] <hiexpo> !ask
[02:18] <ganja> someone know how to delete a schema in gconf?
[02:18] <IdleOne> !ese | lokvendra
[02:18] <IdleOne> !es | lokvendra
[02:18] <Alan502> I lost my wi-fi on a dell inspiron 1420 today morning, i believe it was after installing aircrack. Just instlaling it, i didn't even run it.
 jo soi del Brasil, conta-me o que se passa
[02:19] <lokvendra> seek help in English is possible?
[02:19] <madruga> nsadmin, Ok sorry, I just think these things should be public, unlike other systems
[02:19] <mossby> ganja: Thanks so much! I linked them together into one long string : "rm *1.png && rm *2.png" etc etc  and it worked like a charm! I've got hundreds of these to do!
[02:19] <IdleOne> jonas: please go to #ubuntu-es to help lokvendra
[02:19] <ganja> no problem
[02:19] <nsadmin> who said anything about public vs private? if you want attention, go for it
[02:20] <lokvendra> jonas: he cambiado algunas cosas del sistema al intentar montar un HD me devuelve error
[02:20] <IdleOne> lokvendra: yes if you want to ask here that is fine.
[02:20] <Alan502> Can someone help me??
[02:20] <hiexpo> !ask
[02:20] <lokvendra> no se como solucionarlo
[02:20] <ganja> mossby: but "rm *1.png *2.png" work same
[02:20] <IdleOne> lokvendra: please speak in English here :)
[02:20] <Alan502> lokvendra, que error?
[02:20] <hiexpo> !es | lokvendra
[02:20] <Alan502> hmmm
[02:21] <lokvendra> Alan502 No se pudo montar SANSUMG 2 Authentication is required
[02:21] <mcl0vin> am running ubuntu desktop on my hp mini 110, is there any way i can increase my resolution from 1024x576?
[02:21] <IdleOne> Alan502: if you can help lokvendra in spanish please join #ubuntu-es
[02:21] <nsadmin> ganja: howbout *[1-9].png
[02:21] <Alan502> lokvendra, hmm estas usando sudo antes de montar?
[02:21] <jonas> lokvendra: tu tentasse ver la conexion del HD?
[02:21] <ganja> yeah
[02:21] <ganja> I'm tired
[02:21] <lokvendra> jonas no
[02:22] <IdleOne> jonas: Alan502 and lokvendra English in here please.
[02:22] <hiexpo> !es
[02:22] <Alan502> IdleOne, ok, can you help me with my wi-fi?
[02:22] <lokvendra> Alan502 no lo hago desde Ubuntu -> Lugares en forma automatica
[02:22] <nsadmin> how many times are you going to cause the bot to flood that msg?!
[02:22] <IdleOne> Alan502: have you looked at the wifi docs?
[02:22] <hiexpo> IdleOne, kick em
[02:22] <mcl0vin> am running ubuntu desktop on my hp mini 110, is there any way i can increase my resolution from 1024x576?
[02:23] <Alan502> IdleOne, what wifi docs?
[02:23] <Alan502> !wifi
[02:23] <the_file> is there a version of ubuntu that can be used from a removabledrive?.
[02:23] <Alan502> let me look, i think this happened after installing aircrack
[02:23] <madruga> nsadmin, I misunderstood
[02:23] <jonas> lokvendra: tu computador inicia???
[02:23] <IdleOne> hiexpo: kicking/banning is used as a last resort
[02:23] <IdleOne> jonas: last warning. Please speak in English
[02:23] <nsadmin> madruga: did you find this in lucid or not?
[02:24] <edbian> What package do I need to install so that I can program X11 in c ??
[02:24] <Bodsda> edbian: huh, do you mean opengl programming in C?
[02:24] <madruga> nsadmin, yes
[02:24] <edbian> Bodsda, Not sure.  I'm learning the xlib api for c.
[02:24] <lokvendra> jonas : si inicia antes entraba sin problemas no se que hice yo
[02:24] <edbian> Bodsda, http://www.xmission.com/~georgeps/documentation/tutorials/Xlib_Beginner.html
[02:25] <IdleOne> lokvendra: ultima ves que te pregunta de hablar in ingles.
[02:25] <nsadmin> madruga, so there is a place for that version of ubuntu, and from what I've seen the ops are strict about it. can't discuss lucid here until it's released
[02:25] <Bodsda> edbian: well, this is probably not the best place to ask as its not programming focused - perhaps #ubuntu-programming
[02:25] <nsadmin> madruga the place is #ubuntu+1
[02:26] <IdleOne> lokvendra: tienes que entrar en el canal en español. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[02:26] <ganja> maybe libx11-dev alone will works
 jonas me esta ayudando.gracias
[02:26] <madruga> nsadmin, this is a problem in older versions too
[02:27] <nsadmin> oh, you didn't say that before... so you want to report a bug that exist in -current- ubuntu
[02:27] <madruga> nsadmin,  is a problem of security
[02:27] <madruga> nsadmin,  just change the patterns of a particular file
[02:28] <nsadmin> do you have a file with all the information you have collected about this bug?
[02:28] <jonas> lokvendra: If this error is from partition, see the format and see if you have support for it
[02:29] <madruga> nsadmin, i need go
[02:29] <nsadmin> see the way you're going about this now, is you're stretching it out as far as you think it can go. If you really want to report this as a bug, there is a bug tracker... if you want to tell what it is, then DO SO
[02:30] <ganja> someone know how to delete a schema in gconf?
[02:31] <nsadmin> what does man gconf say?
[02:31] <mcl0vin> can someone tell me if this is doable ,am running ubuntu desktop on my hp mini 110, is there any way i can increase my resolution from 1024x576?
[02:31] <jeff__> Help, My sound icon displays dummy output and i get no sound out put from my laptop.
[02:31] <ganja> gconf isn't a program
[02:31] <lokvendra> jonas:partition is not error but worked well permits before I make some changes in error
[02:31] <ganja> but there are gconftool-2, I tried some command, no error but no effect...
[02:32] <Guest4689> How do I connect computer to TV with S Video?
[02:32] <canros> Hi
[02:32] <jonas> lokvendra: I need torn off now, see the cable of HD and if the partition have some problem, tray the ubuntu liveCD, Okay? Bye
[02:32] <nsadmin> what does man -k gconf say?
[02:32] <brand0n> how come when i go to a bookmark in my  Places menu thats an FTP it opens it up in firefox instead of nautilus
[02:32] <canros> Hola lokvendra  acá es un salon en ingles
[02:32] <canros> No puedes hablar español aca
[02:32] <canros> Ven a...
[02:32] <kaushal> hi
[02:32] <quietone> automount isn't working for usb stick or ipod and I am not confident with mount
[02:32] <canros> ven a #ubuntu-es si quieres hablar español
[02:32] <kaushal> anybody used openvas on ossim ?
[02:33] <ganja> nsadmin, it show 7 program, one seems nice (gconf-schemas)
[02:33] <IdleOne> canros: thank you
[02:33] <canros> Youre' welcome
[02:34] <greezmunkey> nsadmin: --unapply-schema Remove any schema name applied to the given keys
[02:34] <mcl0vin> can someone help me please!
[02:34] <greezmunkey> nsadmin: nice!
[02:35] <nsadmin> mcl0vin: specific informative concise complete
[02:35] <brand0n> how come when i go to a bookmark in my  Places menu thats an FTP it opens it up in firefox instead of nautilus
[02:35] <brand0n> how come when i go to a bookmark in my  Places menu thats an FTP it opens it up in firefox instead of nautilus
[02:36] <brand0n> used to use nautilus
[02:36] <mcl0vin> nsadmin: what do you mean please?
[02:36] <nsadmin> mcl0vin: exactly my question.
[02:36] <IdleOne> mcl0vin: what nsadmin meant is that the channel is very busy and that you need to repeat your question from time to time but not to quickly :)
[02:36] <nsadmin> if you are not any of those things, how will anyone know whether they can help
[02:37] <mcl0vin> nsadmin: can someone tell me if this is doable ,am running ubuntu desktop on my hp mini 110, is there any way i can increase my resolution from 1024x576?
[02:37] <nsadmin> resolution depends on your video card and on the monitor you're displaying on
[02:37] <Alan502> lol, do you really need more than that on an hp mini?
[02:37] <mcl0vin> IdleOne: thank you, i just didn't thought he wanted me to ask the same question again or no
[02:38] <mcl0vin> Alan502: well , its a little bigger :) so i am trying to fit more
[02:39] <Alan502> mcl0vin, haha =]
[02:39] <Alan502> i don't think you are going to be able to get something with more resolution
[02:39] <Alan502> if it's 10, of course
[02:39] <Alan502> 10"
[02:40] <nsadmin> what is the max native resolution the device can do?
[02:41] <Alan502> dont know
[02:41] <mcl0vin> Alan502: it is 10"
[02:41] <IdleOne> nsadmin: according to http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Display-and-video/HP-Mini-110-screen-resolution-problem/m-p/85175 1024 x 512
[02:41] <mcl0vin> nsadmin: neither do i
[02:42] <nsadmin> so the max res is what you have already
[02:42] <mcl0vin> IdleOne: so i have some leg room here huh
[02:42]  * un214 stretches
[02:42] <mcl0vin> nsadmin: 1024X576
[02:43] <IdleOne> mcl0vin: no you don't :)
[02:43] <mcl0vin> IdleOne: why ?
[02:43] <IdleOne> mcl0vin: you can't squeeze water from a rock dude. that is as high as it will go
[02:44] <nsadmin> actually rock dudes are about 95% water...
[02:44] <IdleOne> nsadmin: :)
[02:44] <mcl0vin> IdleOne: ok i am lost here
[02:44] <Alan502> hmmm
[02:44] <Alan502> if you really
[02:45] <Alan502> need a higher resolution
[02:45] <nsadmin> mcl0vin: the resolution you're running is the max already
[02:45] <Alan502> (althought i highly doubt you will be even able to read whats on the screen)
[02:45] <mcl0vin> IdleOne: 1024 X 576 and 1024 X 512 which one will fit more
[02:45] <Alan502> you can probably try another video card
[02:45] <mcl0vin> nsadmin: ahhhh
[02:46] <nsadmin> hmm, what are you driving with the video card
[02:46] <nsadmin> and what's the max res of the thing you're driving
[02:47] <schultza> !handbrake
[02:47] <schultza> Is there a repository for handbrake?
[02:47] <mcl0vin> nsadmin: driving?!!
[02:48] <hiexpo> hows the weather in indiana?
[02:48] <cellofellow> schultza: yeah, somewhere. I know Ubuntu Tweak has one in its repositories list.
[02:48] <schultza> ubuntu tweak?
[02:48] <cellofellow> !ubuntutweak
[02:48] <cellofellow> hm
[02:48] <chd> how well does ubuntu run on tablets?
[02:48] <IdleOne> cellofellow: https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[02:49] <IdleOne> schultza: https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[02:49] <cellofellow> schultza: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:49] <quietone> pls how do I mount a usb drive and/or ipod. the cmds I found in the community docs aren't working
[02:49]  * cellofellow prefers OGMRip to Handbrake anyway.
[02:49] <hiexpo> quietone, be more specific please
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  sudo mount /dev/DEVICENAME /media/MAKEADIR
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[02:50] <hiexpo> thanx Dr_Willis
[02:51] <quietone> Dr_Willis: what devicename do I use for my flash drive and/or ipod?
[02:51] <hiexpo> see
[02:52] <clamlove> help!  what to do when the /dev/ folder suddenly becomes (almost) empty?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  use the 'sudo fdisk -l' or 'dmesg' command and see what devices they are.
[02:52] <quietone> Dr_Willis hiexpo: that link sent me to the usb page with the command that doesn't work, it mounts an internal drive.
[02:52] <hiexpo> quietone, why just not ask how do i mount my ipod get right to the specifics
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  you use the proper /dev/XXXXX entry and it does external as well.
[02:52] <schultza> !ubuntutweak
[02:53] <Theowning> IdleOne! I fixed it! i feel so proud of me!
[02:53] <IdleOne> Theowning: :)
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  the system really dosent care if its internal or external. its all about the /dev/XXXXX entry
[02:53] <IdleOne> Theowning: what was it?
[02:53] <ganja> nsadmin, I found I needed to send it a SIGHUP signal, but now I got empty directories, I will try to delete them later (hoping for an update to remove them)
[02:53] <Theowning> splashy didnt actually reinstall when i thought it did
[02:53] <Alexander> hello
[02:53] <Theowning> i had to do dpkg --force-overwrite
[02:53] <IdleOne> Theowning: lol, good job figuring it out
[02:54] <clamlove> um, well, is it a problem if there is no /dev/sda ?
[02:56] <nsadmin> clamlove: what drive is your linux on right now?
[02:56] <un214> I wish I had seen the Theowning's problem
[02:56] <clamlove> well, it started on /dev/sda, and during this session everything seemed to be running ok; i even mounted /dev/sda2 a few hours ago; but now all of a sudden it appears as though /dev/ contains no devices at all
[02:57] <un214> that's bad
[02:57] <clamlove> yeah, now i'm afraid to turn off the computer
[02:57] <un214> well if it's a recent ubuntu /dev is a ramdrive anyway
[02:58] <clamlove> oh, do you mean that everything in /dev is actually just stored in ram?
[02:58] <nsadmin> what if anything had you done before /dev disappeared?
[02:59] <quietone> Dr_Willis: fdisk -l only shows the two internal drives. not the currently attached ipod or flash drive. what command for dmesg?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  when you plug in a disk, a few moments (like 30 sec) later there should be info about it at the end of dmesg. Or try the 'sudo fdisk -l' command
[03:00] <clamlove> nsadmin: i was in the process of attempting to make an ubuntu live cd.  i had gone through part of the process but screwed up, and i ended up exiting the chroot without umounting some drives i had mounted in that environment.  after this, i tried starting the whole process over again, but i could not mount the iso image anymore
[03:00] <Theowning> OGOD i installed usplash, which uninstalled splashy, which in turn broke everything all over again
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  if neother of those commands show it.. you got deeper issues
[03:00]  * Theowning looks at splashy with angry eyes
[03:00] <nsadmin> angry, splashy, squishy, gooey
[03:01] <schultza> thanks about ubuntu tweak
[03:01] <cousteau> is it possible to dewubify an ubuntu installation? that feature would be nice for people who don't want to risk installing on an actual partition but finally decide to change to ubuntu
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> cousteau:  ive seen guides/tools on how to do that.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> cousteau:  and no i dont have any url's - i just saw it at some sites as i was googling about
[03:02] <un214> doesn't that require a large swap drive?
[03:02] <cousteau> well, maybe it would be good to distribute a dewubifier cd...
[03:02] <quietone> Dr_Willis: Ok. I tried again with the flash drive. it doesn't show up. What are the deeper issues?
[03:03] <greezmunkey> cousteau: better than that, you can use aptoncd, and back up your /home. Install fresh ubuntu, restore /home, and put your packages back from aptoncd...viola!
[03:03] <cousteau> since probably some partitions must be unmounted, and some other things that can't be done from windows
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  if those 2 commands are not seeing it.. then it could be a bad flash drive.. or bad usb port.
[03:04] <cousteau> greezmunkey: well, that's a good solution... but if it's possible to just copy the ubuntu image to a partition I think that would be the way to go
[03:05] <greezmunkey> cousteau: I don't think wubi allows a seperate /home partition though.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> its easy to move stuff to a seperate /home/ later
[03:05] <cousteau> greezmunkey: if it's going to be manually backed up it doesn't matter
[03:06] <luis_> hello channel
[03:06] <hiexpo> !hello
[03:06] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: true... cousteau I'm tracking...
[03:08] <hiexpo> wow
[03:09] <thisguykills> hi guys, can you help me with some wireless drivers
[03:09] <thisguykills> I have a netbook I installed ubuntu 10.4 on
[03:09] <thisguykills> And I cant get internet on it, because I need the broadcam drivers
[03:10] <thisguykills> Is it possible that I could download them on this computer with ubuntu 9.1 and transfer the files?
[03:10] <hiexpo> !10.04
[03:10] <thisguykills> ok thanks
[03:10] <hiexpo> no problem
[03:11] <quietone> Dr_Willis: thx again. I have 1 of 4 USB ports that work.
[03:13] <defn> hi all -- i have a hard drive which is 40GB that has 9.10 on it -- i have another drive that is 100GB and is empty -- id like to make a "perfect" backup of the 40GB partition to a new 100GB partition.  how do you suggest i do this?
[03:13] <defn> dd?
[03:15] <defn> suggestions?
[03:15] <un214> find /mount -depth | cpio -impd  /newmount
[03:15] <asus> has anyone used wine with ubuntu 10.... it wont allow me to run .exe files for some reason?
[03:16] <un214> worksforme
[03:16] <choynes> easy way to use ipod on ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix
[03:16] <xangua> !lucid > asus
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> asus:  it works fine here.  It can depend greatly on the specific .exe you are running
[03:16] <defn> un214: how does that work
[03:17] <defn> un214: will that make a perfect bootable copy?
[03:17] <choynes> trying to use rhythembox
[03:17] <asus> I tried running teamspeak 3- and then I tried running world at war call of duty install
[03:17] <choynes> for ipod
[03:17] <un214> no, not bootable
[03:17] <un214> you need to monkey with /etc/fstab and reinstall the bootloader afterwords
[03:17] <defn> is there a better way to do it all in one?
[03:18] <jimi_> How can I do the equiv of "yum provides Device::Gsm.pm" for apt /
[03:18] <asus> thanks for the link, I'll keep playing with it and see if I can get something to work
[03:18] <defn> @un214
[03:19] <_SmOkE_> hello! someone from Brazil?
[03:19] <un214> defn: sorry don't know a better way
[03:19] <nsadmin> !br
[03:19] <lespea> has anybody been able to install office 2010 through wine?
[03:20] <xangua> !appdb > lespea
[03:20] <xangua> i don't, and don't want
[03:21] <choynes> who is the moderator?
[03:21] <Alcor> lespea Just for info -- why would you want to 8=)?
[03:22] <Trouche> Hello.  I am a new Ubuntu user.  During the install I was unable to get the swap partition to mount (error message).  Now that I have booted into Ubuntu I would like to setup the swap correctly.  How do I do that?  I have the 4.4GB already partitioned as a swap type.
[03:22] <lespea> i'm trying to get my mother to use *nix but she has to have office... openoffice is not a suitable replacement for her (tried that)
[03:22] <lespea> could use virtualbox or something but that's waaay too involved for her
[03:23] <choynes> would someone pm me with help on using an ipod with ubuntu?
[03:23] <xx22xx> how to install script blocker in ubuntu 9,10 any one...
[03:23] <rigel> i have a print job stuck in my spooler, and canceling hasnd gotten rid of it. is there some other way to nuke it?
[03:24] <nsadmin> does script blocker come as a ubuntu package
[03:24] <gaveen> choynes, This is a public channel. Don't seek for private support
[03:24] <gaveen> Trouche, you don't mount swap partitions. Anyway you can set up your spare as a swap
[03:24] <Alcor> Has ne1 ever seen a unix/linux box swap?  Its like wading in syrup...
[03:24] <choynes> gaveen, then why cant I get an answer?
[03:24] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, you need to be patient
[03:25] <Alcor> Swapping means u don't have enough ram...
[03:25] <gaveen> choynes, ask your question in public, and hopefully someone will offer to help
[03:25] <nsadmin> choynes: if you need immediate, specific, targeted help, perhaps you need a paid consultant
[03:25] <nsadmin> people here don't get paid; you'll have to wait for someone who is willing.
[03:25] <Capt_Blackwood> hang on, choynes, what's the problem with the iPod?
[03:26] <choynes> I have... just want to use my ipod on an ubuntu install. tried RB to no avail, and the forums are full of too many solutions that are confusing
[03:26] <xx22xx> anyone how to install script blocker...!!!
[03:26] <nsadmin> does script blocker come as a ubuntu package
[03:26] <greezmunkey> defn: did you gat an answer?
[03:26] <greezmunkey> s/gat/get
[03:26] <defn> greezmunkey: not really
[03:26] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, i see, what is the ipod model?
[03:26] <greezmunkey> defn: look here: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/8225-clone-your-ubuntu-installation-onto-a-new-hard-disk
[03:26] <defn> greezmunkey: i want a bootable drive which is an exct copy
[03:26] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, and what version of Ubuntu are you using
[03:26] <defn> awesome thanks
[03:26] <greezmunkey> defn: look here: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/8225-clone-your-ubuntu-installation-onto-a-new-hard-disk
[03:27] <choynes> ipod plugged in, wont play music, get ipod nano 4th gen, and 9.10 nb remix
[03:27] <xx22xx> thanks man.....installed works fine..
[03:27] <Alcor> rigel do a ps -aef and find the print job -- then do kill -9 pid to kill it
[03:27] <choynes> gstreamer is missg a plugin, and the bad set didnt work
[03:28] <xangua> lucid will have a new version of gnome that will support ipod an iphone i believe
[03:28] <xangua> choynes*
[03:28] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, do you have "Restricted" extras installed?
[03:28] <schultza> Ok. How do I activate Gnome Shell? I have it installed from Ubuntu Tweak.
[03:28] <choynes> no...
[03:29] <Alcor> God bless the command line!!!
[03:29] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, go to "System" under the "Administration" area you'll see "Synaptic Package Manager"
[03:29] <greezmunkey> rigel: in your browser: http://localhost:631 - takes you to CUPS - you can manage your spooler from there
[03:29] <gaveen> Trouche, is your partition currently mounted? If so first unmount it.
[03:29] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, open that...and tell me when you have it up
[03:30] <Trouche> gaveen, how do I tell?  I feel like such a noob.
[03:30] <defn> greezmunkey: i have a minor question on you rlink
[03:30] <thisguykills> !lspci
[03:30] <greezmunkey> defn: OK
[03:30] <greezmunkey> defn: sorry, caps
[03:30] <rigel> greezmunkey: it's a local job being spooled to a remote system, its not showing in cups
[03:31] <gaveen> Trouche, run the command mount and see if the spare partition comes up in the list
[03:31] <CarlFK1> anyone know the firefox PPA?  need 3.5 or so for Jaunty
[03:31] <defn> greezmunkey: what i dont want to do, is COMPLETELY recreate my current drive -- because on drive A the partition for ubuntu is too small and i want it to be larger on the drive B
[03:31] <defn> with ddrescue it looks like it will just be recreating the exact structure of drive A
[03:31] <defn> which is not what i want to do
[03:31] <greezmunkey> defn: I believe the third section deals with resizing partitions.
[03:31] <Trouche> gaveen, it doesn't appear to.
[03:31] <defn> greezmunkey: wonderful -- i will read on
[03:31] <defn> thanks again
[03:32] <lespea> I don't have a question; I just want to say that sshfs is god damn amazing
[03:32] <rigel> i also dont see the job in ps
[03:32] <rigel> but im not sure what exactly im looking for
[03:32] <xangua> CarlFK1: for jaunty try ubuntuzilla http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/
[03:32] <greezmunkey> rigel: what did you do to generate the print job, what program?
[03:32] <gaveen> Trouche, good. So we can use it as swap now. First, do you know it's device name: Eg: sdb2?
[03:33] <rigel> i dont recall, probably evince
[03:33] <goddard> Is there a way to disable the desktop icons on ubuntu like in windows?
[03:33] <Trouche> gaveen, /dev/sda3
[03:33] <CarlFK1> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa   yay
[03:33] <xangua> CarlFK1: daily build...buu
[03:34] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, other than the restricted extras and making sure linux can properly detect the ipod, i'm not that good with ipods and linux.
[03:34] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, other than the restricted extras and making sure linux can properly detect the ipod, i'm not that good with ipods and linux.
[03:34] <gaveen> Trouche, ok, next run: sudo mkswap /dev/sda3
[03:34] <choynes> fetching restricted extras. Capt_Blackwood, are you military?
[03:34] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, nope
[03:34] <Capt_Blackwood> why?
[03:35] <Trouche> gaveen, done
[03:35] <gaveen> Trouche, then, we need to make the swap partition entry persistent by adding it to /etc/fstab
[03:35] <apstanto> What do I do if the 9.10 installation freezes?  It's stuck on a black screen with a frozen "busy mouse" symbol in the middle and the cd drive makes a sound once every several minutes?
[03:36] <choynes> use of the "Capt", plus I'm retired CG
[03:36] <gaveen> Trouche, edit the /etc/fstab with your editor of choice. Eg: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:36] <choynes> sorry off t, restarting RB
[03:36] <Capt_Blackwood> ah, choynes, it's a fictional character i developed when i was 16
[03:36] <Trouche> gaveen, alright.  What am I adding
[03:36] <goddard> Is there a way to disable the desktop icons on ubuntu like in windows?
[03:36] <Alcor> apstanto were u logging in?
[03:36] <gaveen> Trouche, /dev/sda3 swap swap defaults 0 0
[03:36] <Capt_Blackwood> goddard, desktop icons?
[03:36] <gaveen> Trouche, in a new line
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  you can turn on/off the desktop icons in gnome - yes
[03:37] <greezmunkey> rigel: yikes, I don't know how much help this will be, but it is good reading at least: http://lib.ru/LINUXGUIDE/linux_survive/lsg19.htm
[03:37] <gaveen> Trouche, it should be sdb3, my bad
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  i know ubuntu-tweak has a gui/tool to do it.. proberly other ways as well
[03:37] <xx22xx> is there better movie player than totem 2.28.2 in ubuntu 9.10
[03:37] <Trouche> gaveen, why sdb3?
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  i alwyas use vlc or mplayer
[03:37] <gaveen> Trouche, oops, it's sda3. Sorry :)
[03:37] <xx22xx> ol
[03:37] <apstanto> Alcor, I'm doing an install of ubuntu 9.10
[03:37] <choynes> Capt, thanks! worked like a charm. Got Straus playing... cya ;-)
[03:38] <gaveen> Trouche, Add the line, save the file and exit
[03:38] <rigel> lpq says no entries
[03:38] <aalares_> hay ubunteros venezolano por ahi
[03:38] <rigel> but the little print icon in the toolbar says otherwise
[03:38] <cheqiang> hellp
[03:38] <cheqiang> hello
[03:38] <Trouche> gaveen:  How do I save the file?  It is read only.  I am using gedit
[03:38] <aalares_> Hola ubunteros por aqui en español
[03:39] <greezmunkey> rigel: did you send the job to a *nix system, windows?
[03:39] <Capt_Blackwood> choynes, any time, also: when ever you've got a fresh ubuntu setup, always drop in the restricted extras...
[03:39] <goddard> Dr_Willis thanks
[03:39] <Capt_Blackwood> enjoy.
[03:39] <Alcor> apstanto look down at your system and see if the dvd is sticking out
[03:39] <gaveen> Trouche, you need to open it with sudo then. Eg: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:39] <xangua> goddard: maybe unmarking the 'show_desktop' entry in apps/nautilus/preferences thru 'gconf-editor'
[03:39] <Trouche> gaveen:  k
[03:39] <apstanto> Alcor: it is not.
[03:39] <Trouche> gaveen: done
[03:40] <Alcor> apstanto i assume ur using cdrom to load?
[03:40] <apstanto> Alcor: yes
[03:40] <xangua> goddard: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stiscreenshotv.png
[03:40] <gaveen> Trouche, now run: sudo swapon -a
[03:40] <goddard> xangua where?
[03:41] <xangua> goddard: launc: gconf-editor
[03:41] <Trouche> gaveen: I get this... swapon: /dev/sda3: swapon failed: Cannot allocate memory
[03:41] <apstanto> Alcor: I've done this install a couple times before, and never had a problem.
[03:41] <apstanto> Alcor: on other systems that is...
[03:42] <Trouche> gaveen:  Quick question... I have 8GB of RAM, but the installer suggested a 4.5GB swap.  Is that the problem?
[03:42] <xangua> Trouche: normally not more than 2gb of swap is needed
[03:42] <Alcor> apstanto i did the same thing.  My dvd was interfering with the cdrom load.  Is the light on the dvd coming on?
[03:42] <song> robot???????
[03:42] <xx22xx> how to run vlc??
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Trouche:  unless you want to use hibernate/suspend - then you might want swap = ram.
[03:43] <Jordan_U> Trouche: Only if you want to be able to hybernate, in which case you may sometimes need more swap
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  type 'vlc' in a terminal. or use its icon
[03:43] <apstanto> Alcor: not anymore.  It was doing great for a while...
[03:43] <gaveen> Trouche, that swap size shouldn't be a problem. If you are not going to run memory heavy programs, your system might not use swap at all,... with 8GB of memory :)
[03:43] <Trouche> gaveen:  I am used to Windows
[03:43] <Trouche> gaveen:  ;)
[03:43] <Trouche> gaveen: So.. any idea what causes the error?
[03:44] <gaveen> Trouche, Checking,... I'm not too sure
[03:44] <Alcor> apstanto r u using the cdrom or the dvd to load?
[03:45] <xx22xx> is there no icon for vlc player....
[03:45] <apstanto> Alcor: its a cd in a dvd drive
[03:45] <Jordan_U> Trouche: You can also create a swap file just for hybernating if you don't want a dedicated partition
[03:45] <greezmunkey> All: I understand the "rule" to be, swap matches RAM, unless you want to hibernate, then double RAM - is that about right?
[03:45] <Trouche> Jordan_U: I like the idea of the partition :)
[03:46] <Alcor> apstanto Oh - sry
[03:46] <xx22xx> vlc not suppose to be run as root..???sorry
[03:46] <gaveen> Trouche, can you do a pastie of: free -m
[03:46] <ShazbotMcNasty> how do I compress a whole bunch of .rar's making on video (xvid) to one, single avi?
[03:46] <gaveen> Trouche, may be here: http://pastie.org/
[03:46] <song> finish the job
[03:46] <song> ..........
[03:47] <bazhang> song, who are you speaking to
[03:47] <Alcor> Greezmunkey Works 4 me
[03:47] <cew_mutz> huphh
[03:47] <xx22xx> is there better avi player ...in ubuntu ..??
[03:48] <ShazbotMcNasty> vlc/ mplayer xx22xx
[03:48] <Trouche> gaveen: http://pastie.org/933635
[03:48] <xx22xx> tried showing error
[03:49] <gaveen> Trouche, that looks ok
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  vlc is commonly used by thousands of people.. what was the error?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  and correct. theres NO need to run vlc as root
[03:50] <Trouche> gaveen: Should I restart?
[03:50] <gaveen> Trouche, If you can. Let's restart and see.
[03:51] <xx22xx> vlc is not supposed to be run as root. sorry
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  so? thats the error message? or what.. you do not do 'sudo vlc'  and you shouldent be doing stuff as root unless you need to anyway
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  so clarify exactly what you are doing.
[03:52] <Trouche> gaveen: k.. I will be back.  I hope.... :)
[03:52] <smoked1> Does anyone know how to get a USB hard drive to mount at boot? I have tried adding an fstab entry but keep gettin the error:"special device UUID=5d2f2546-1c19-40d0-95e3-c90d33fc800a does not exist"
[03:52] <gaveen> Trouche, ok, let's see :)
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  double check the UUID, or use the by LABEL option in fstab. is one way.
[03:53] <xx22xx> if you need use vlc-wrapper (make sure it is set-UID root and cannot be run by non-trusted users first...
[03:53] <smoked1> Dr_Willis: I'll try that
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  what is the exact command you are using? Youve managed to do somthing really goofy it seems
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  and you are logged in as a normal user? not as root?  perhaps its time to log out and back in . to get to a sane state.
[03:54] <xx22xx> typing : vlc and then these error
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  you are doing somthijgn weird then.  what does the command 'whoami' output?
[03:55] <xx22xx> root
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  so we are back to.. WHY are you doning this as root.. You are the wrong user.
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  exit that terminal.. open a new one as your USER,  and try the commands. (check whoami again to make sure you are a user, not root)
[03:56] <Trouche> gaveen: k... I am back
[03:57] <gaveen> Trouche, that's a good sign :)
[03:57] <Trouche> gaveen: yeah.
[03:57] <gaveen> Trouche, now when you run free -m do you see a non-zero value for swap?
[03:58] <dethray> Are there any guides on getting hdmi out to work with the nvidia drivers?  Can't seem to find any cohesive how-to of sorts. :)
[03:58] <Trouche> gaveen: nope.  4204
[03:58] <gaveen> Trouche, that's a non-zero value :)
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> dethray:  ive seen peoppel in here about 4 times a week asking about hdmi+nvidia - never seen a definitive answer.
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> dethray:  theres proberly some LARGE forum thereads on the topic. given the # of peopel i see in here a week with the problem
[03:59] <xx22xx> vlc media player 1.0.2 Goldeneye
[03:59] <Trouche> gaveen: I assume that is a really good sign!  So.. can I start the effusive praise of you now?
[03:59] <dethray> I'll keep pluggin away, maybe cook something up if i get it workin
[03:59] <dethray> Thanx
[03:59] <gaveen> Trouche, looks like you have it now. Anyway run: swapon -s  to make sure
[03:59] <xx22xx> running vlc with the default interface. use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[04:00] <lespea> one thing I seriously question is switching to strictly plymouth for a lts release
[04:00] <gaveen> Trouche, the last command is to check the status of swap
[04:00] <lespea> pretty stupid given all its problems
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> lespea:  yes. it has had issues.
[04:00] <bazhang> lespea, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> lespea:  but thats probery a topic for #ubuntu-ranting :)
[04:01] <lespea> lol got the message :p
[04:01] <Trouche> gaveen:  http://pastie.org/933645
[04:01] <smoked1> I tried changing the fstab entry to "LABEL=Media     /media/Media    ext3    auto,defaults,force,users       0       0"
[04:01] <cheqiang> I am chinese ,hello everyone
[04:01] <smoked1> Still no go
[04:01] <gaveen> Trouche, congrats. You have a working swap partition now :)
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  im not sure what  the users optionis supposed to do in that case. and ive never seen 'force' option either
[04:02] <bazhang> cheqiang, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese language support of Ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  and /media/Media exists?   and the label is Media? (proper case)
[04:02] <smoked1> Yes it does
[04:02] <Trouche> gaveen: Thank you very much.  That was extremely un-painful.  I really appreciate your friendly help.
[04:02] <smoked1> And the volume label is Media
[04:02] <gaveen> Trouche, :)
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  try it with just the 'defaults' option  and unmount it. and see if 'sudo mount -a' properly mounts it
[04:03] <smoked1> will do
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  ive had SOME usb hard drives that are 'slow to get ready' and the sytem boots so fast - the usb isent ready to be mounted by the time fstab is getting mounted.
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  i added a rc.local command that mounted them about 20 sec after system booted up
[04:03] <xx22xx> installed vlc works fine thanks...
[04:03] <cheqiang> #ubuntu-cn how should i do?
[04:04] <bazhang> cheqiang, /join #ubuntu-cn
[04:04] <jimi_> Why doesnt lsusb list the device path always? like /dev/foo/bar0?
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> jimi_:  theres  /dev/disks/by-* paths you can look at..
[04:05] <Dr_Willis>  ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
[04:05] <smoked1> hmm still the same thing. If I unplug it and plug it back in it gets mounted fine but I just can't get it to mount on boot. Really odd.
[04:05] <xx22xx> how to make vlc media player default...
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> xx22xx:  right click on a video.. properties.. set it as the default player for that extension
[04:05] <jimi_> Dr_Willis, Trying to find the path to a gsm phone connect via usb
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> jimi_:  when ya plug it in.  wait a few moments and 'dmesg' should mentin it at the end also
[04:06] <cheqiang> just type in "/join #ubuntu-cn " ?
[04:06] <bazhang> cheqiang, yes
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> cheqiang:  or in many clients you can click on the #ubuntu-cn  text and join
[04:06] <bazhang> cheqiang, or click on the link/right click on it join channel, depending on the client
[04:07] <jimi_> Dr_Willis, It only shows [ 6552.222596] scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access     RIM      BlackBerry SD    0002 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[04:07] <smoked1> I am going to try a different USB port
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> jimi_:  wait a bit longer and it may show up.. or it may need tobe in usb-data mode some how
[04:09] <cheqiang> oh i see thankyou ,by the way ,i also like to chat with foreign friends ,about tech or anything else
[04:11] <xx22xx> thanks for ur time Dr. Wills.
[04:11] <bazhang> cheqiang, in that case /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat as this channel is support only
[04:12] <Omen_20> Hi. I have downloaded the .so file for Flash RC2 but I cant figure out where to place it.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> Omen_20:  its best to install flash using the package manager. Not by downloading files from adobe
[04:12] <lespea> Dr_Willis: doesn't help him if he wants 10.1
[04:13] <Omen_20> Yeah but theyre not up to date. It's taking Adobe forever to finish up 10.1
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> lespea:  hes on his own then. that can break flash in ways thats very hard to fix.
[04:16] <Alcor> tst
[04:17] <ForgeAus> is canonical going to add a Enlightenment and a GNU-step based distro officially? (ie Ubuntu flavours like kubuntu and xubuntu are?)
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> ForgeAus:  not that ive ever heard mentioned.
[04:17] <cheqiang> thankyou
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> ForgeAus:  'lubuntu' is  a work in progress tobe 'official' in the 10.10 release I hear.
[04:18] <ForgeAus> whtas lubuntu? that lxde thingy?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu = lxde = yes
[04:18] <ForgeAus> also they could easily adopt fluxbuntu
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> theres really not much TO fluxbuntu.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Install fluxbox there ya go. :)
[04:18] <ForgeAus> exactly
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> so the point of having a seperate disrto/disk for a simple window manager  - is not much of a point
[04:19] <ForgeAus> hehe well they do have some mods from #ubuntu, don't need lots of gnome for fluxbuntu
[04:19] <ForgeAus> another lite distro like xubuntu
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> One of the main 'working area' in lubuntu - is getting lxde native apps of all the gnome-apps they are replying on.
[04:19] <ForgeAus> well whats the point of having xubuntu then? all it is is ubuntu-minimal with xfce
[04:20] <bazhang> ForgeAus, lets move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu has its own different support tools in many cases.
[04:20] <ForgeAus> uh afaik its not offtopic
[04:20] <freezway> hey how can i get the cpu temperatures for all 4 cores on my cpu to show up in conky. running "sensors" from the command line shows me the temps.
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> Yep. :)
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> freezway:  cheating way.. you can get conky to show the output of 'sensors' in a widgit. :)
[04:20] <bazhang> ForgeAus, sure it is. this is Ubuntu support only, meta-discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <mhall119> ForgeAus: go ask in #xubuntu
[04:21] <ForgeAus> lol
[04:21] <mhall119> or ##windows
[04:21] <ForgeAus> rofl
[04:21] <freezway> Dr_Willis, any elegant way... brb
[04:21] <nameless> hi to all guys
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> freezway:  i use the 'show output of a command' featur all the time to  make conky things do what i want.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> freezway:  other then that. check the conky docs. there may be some special temperature  settings for it.
[04:22] <stillinbeta> quit
[04:22] <stillinbeta> oops, sorry all
[04:22] <markl_> my updatedb locatedb is like 300MB and takes a long time to search; is there anyway to make it more efficient?
[04:23] <smoked1> Is it even possible to mount USB hard drives durring boot using fstab?
[04:23] <nameless> i have a graphics card driver problem i can't set up the resolution i what my resolution is 800x600
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  yes. Ive done so befor
[04:23] <markl_> smoked1: yes
[04:23] <nameless> help pls
[04:24] <nameless> i have a graphics card driver problem i can't set up the resolution i what my resolution is 800x600
[04:24] <bazhang> nameless, need more details
[04:24] <coz_> nameless,  which graphics card?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  try a simple /dev/sdXXX /media/Test  ext3 defaults   0 0                    in fstab perhaps.
[04:24] <markl_> nameless: did you use the display tool?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  'sudo mount -a' does mount the device?
[04:24] <nameless> sis graphic card
[04:24] <coz_> nameless,  sis   oooo
[04:25] <coz_> nameless,   well there are drivers for that but you realize that no 3d driver is available for SIS cards?
[04:25] <nameless> yes i are do it only have 800x600 or lower
[04:25] <smoked1> Dr_Willis: I keep getting mount: special device LABEL=Media does not exist
[04:25] <coz_> nameless,   there are deb packag
[04:25] <markl_> smoked1: what kind of filesystem is it?
[04:25] <nameless> but can i set up a high resolution
[04:25] <markl_> smoked1: it can be a little tricky with linux scsi device naming
[04:25] <nameless> what are deb packag
[04:25] <smoked1> Dr_Willis: it is ext3
[04:25] <coz_> nameless,  sorry  there are deb packages for sis drivers but I have no idea if they work
[04:26] <coz_> nameless,  deb packages are ones that are going to be easily installed onto ubuntu or debian
[04:26] <nameless> how will i install it
[04:26] <markl_> smoked1: use e2label to find the label
[04:26] <nameless> how can i get it
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  double check guide here also --> http://71.18.80.191/node/9
[04:26] <coz_> nameless,  well there are two packages withing the zip file  hold on...but PLEASE understand ,,, I have not tested these and cannot guarantee anything
[04:26] <BiZooo> :o 5 days!!!
[04:26] <coz_> nameless,     http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/SIS%20driver/sisubuntudrivers.zip
[04:27] <nameless> ok its i will try
[04:27] <coz_> nameless,  right click that pacakge when it downloads  and click "Extract here"
[04:27] <markl_> smoked1: sudo e2label /dev/sda3 or whatever the device is
[04:27] <coz_> nameless,  install both packages in there and restart the system
[04:27] <markl_> you may have to set it to something if it's blank
[04:27] <coz_> nameless,  but I cannot say for sure the system will boot again
[04:27] <markl_> smoked1: i'll bet it is not "Media" right now
[04:28] <coz_> nameless,  I have only tested these once and that was about 4 months ago
[04:28] <smoked1> mark1_: There is no entry in /dev for it
[04:28] <helpHeather> hello, I am trying to install skype and when i try to add the repo it says its 404 anyone know why?
[04:28] <yondering> hm, I have a .deb package that requires libboost-filesystem1.34.1.. I've installed 1.40.0.. I can use dpkg -i --force to try to ignore the deps?
[04:29] <freezway> helpHeather, website down?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> smoked1:  if a device is getting mounted - it has to have a /dev/XXXX entry.
[04:29] <markl_> smoked1: is it plugged in?
[04:29] <markl_> smoked1: try this: cat /proc/partitions
[04:29] <markl_> and it should list everything the kernel knows about
[04:30] <markl_> usually you can figure out which one it is by the size
[04:30] <greezmunkey> markl_: that's handy :)
[04:30] <helpHeather> freezway: http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ shows its up
[04:31] <freezway> helpHeather, ng way.. you can get conky to show the output of 'sensors' in a widgi
[04:32] <freezway> helpHeather, oops
[04:32] <freezway> helpHeather, 1 sec
[04:32] <markl_> greezmunkey: sure comes in handy!
[04:32] <smoked1> Maybeit's being seen as sda5
[04:32] <freezway> http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/
[04:32] <smoked1> I'm going to read that guide and try a few things
[04:33] <helpHeather> freezway: the issue with that is its not a repo, i can install it that way, but any update will have to be done manually(and i am doing this for heather not me)
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> conky line to show the output of a command in the conky window --->       ${execi 300 cal | tail --lines=+2 | head --lines=-1}
[04:33] <helpHeather> if there is no repo then I will deal with it but the best part about package management is the repos :)
[04:35] <rfmx49> Is anyone able to help with madwifi drivers?
[04:35] <nameless_> hi guys im buck and i still hove a problem with my sis graphic card driver
[04:35] <WXZ> what's the envelope icon on the top panel for, and how come I can't move it or find it in "add to panel"?
[04:36] <nameless_> can any one help me
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  you mean in 10.04/Lucid?
[04:36] <nameless_> hi guys im buck and i still hove a problem with my sis graphic card driver
[04:36] <freezway> helpHeather, idk then
[04:36] <WXZ> I'm using ubuntu 9.10, don't even know what Lucid is
[04:36] <nameless_> hi guys im buck and i still hove a problem with my sis graphic card driver
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  part of the IM/notficiations/mail notifications tools - would be my guess. left and right click on it to see its menus/options.
[04:37] <WXZ> 3 options
[04:37] <yondering> nameless_, it's a tad rude to repeat a question so quickly in irc channels.. and your question is rather unclear.  What is it doing or not doing?
[04:37] <WXZ> "empathy", "evolution mail", "pidgin internet messenger"
[04:37] <sisko> in 9.10 i can't get nvidia-settings to save X config it keeps saying failed to parse?
[04:37] <WXZ> I removed the notification area, so it's not part of it
[04:38] <WXZ> I'm afraid if I remove it, I won't be able to get it back
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> sisko:  save the config to a diffrfent file, then copy the file to xorg.conf is one way to get around that. I forget some of the other ways ive seen
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanels | WXZ
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  you can alays get things back
[04:38] <WXZ> ok ok, I'll stop being a wimp
[04:39] <rfmx49> I have madwifi drivers installed and the interfaces are loaded but I am unable to see any networks, is anyone able to help. with the default drivers my connection drops continuisly.
[04:39] <Jordan_U> rfmx49: Why are you using madwifi rather than ath{5,9}k ?
[04:41] <orion_X11> rfmx49, why don't you use ath5? instead of madwifi?
[04:41] <orion_X11> or ath9
[04:41] <rfmx49> Jordan_U the ath5k drivers are dropping out every min, i had to reconnect 5 times to get build-essintal
[04:42] <rfmx49> And have had madwifi installed and working great, but have just done a clean install.
[04:42] <Jordan_U> rfmx49: Try linux-backports wireless for the latest drivers, obviously the ath5k drivers are doing better than madwifi right now :)
[04:44] <Buhmillion> hey guys, how do i set up authentication on a samba share?
[04:44] <rfmx49> will do and will see what happens, the madwifi drivers seem to have a knack of just starting to work for no reason thanks.
[04:46] <melrokz> What Video formats does Ubuntu support by default?
[04:47] <freezway> what are you trying to play?
[04:47] <melrokz> mp4
[04:47] <client4> he ,,,,,
[04:47] <freezway> install libavcodecs-extra or maybe its non-free
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> with the w32codecs and vlc/mplayer - theres very few things i cant  play :)
[04:48] <freezway> actaully, to get all the codecs u should ever need
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> totem has extra packages also for other codecs
[04:48] <freezway> install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:48] <melrokz> k
[04:48] <client4> l;
[04:48] <client4> .;
[04:48] <freezway> it also installs flash if you use chrome
[04:49] <melrokz> without an internet connection, what will i be able to play by default?
[04:49] <bazhang> the package is ubuntu-restricted-extras melrokz
[04:49] <bazhang> melrokz, you have a net connection now, correct?
[04:50] <melrokz> yup, I'm asking 4 a different purpose, to install on a PC without net connection...
[04:50] <freezway> brb
[04:50] <bazhang> melrokz, you might consider remastering an ubuntu distro, in that case, using aptond could be an option as well
[04:51] <bazhang> whoops aptoncd
[04:51] <melrokz> k, good.
[04:51] <bazhang> !aptoncd
[04:51] <melrokz> i'll try that...
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> melrokz:  theres this interesting tool also (never tried it yet) --> https://build.reconstructor.org/#
[04:52] <fauzy> hi
[04:52] <fauzy> how goes it
[04:52] <fauzy> ?
[04:52] <rafaelsoaresbr> melrokz, aptoncd won't install flashplayer, because it downloads flash during its installation
[04:52] <melrokz>  brb
[04:52] <fauzy> :-/
[04:53] <bazhang> fauzy, ubuntu support question?
[04:53] <fauzy> anyone here had any luck setting up udev .rules?
[04:53] <coz_> oh boy nameless didnt return I guess the SIS drivers screwed his system
[04:53] <fauzy> @ bazhang
[04:54] <fauzy> yeas
[04:54] <bazhang> fauzy, then please address the channel, if someone knows they will certainly help
[04:54] <fauzy> i am trying to get ALPS working in lucid. cant seem to get my .rules file to work
[04:55] <fauzy> nobody chatting?
[04:56] <^paradox^> vlc media player is giving me some trouble. for some reason i cant get sound when playing .wmv and .flv files . .mpg and others seem fine. help?
[04:56] <xangua> !lucid > fauzy
[04:56] <fauzy> ty @ ubottu
[04:56] <xangua> ^paradox^ what version of vlc¿¿
[04:57] <^paradox^> xangua: let me check. wasnt having problems til today
[04:57] <fauzy> @paradox>>wmv flv <<sounds like w32 stuff i think
[04:58] <^paradox^> xangua: 0.8.6e Janus
[04:58] <melrokz> Hi everyone i'm back. I wonder why this command does not work...
[04:59] <melrokz> ffmpeg -i a.mp4 a.ogv
[04:59] <xangua> ^paradox^ that's an old versión; are you in hardy'¿
[04:59] <bazhang> melrokz, what are you trying to do
[04:59] <rfmx49> reboot #4 fixed madwifi no more dropped connections :)
[04:59] <melrokz> convert mp4 to ogv
[04:59] <^paradox^> yes waiting for 10.04
[05:00] <smoked1> If I have the usb drive plugged in durrring boot it does nothing. If I unplug and then plug it in it gets mounted. I can then use umount to unmount it and "mount -a" to remount it.
[05:00] <stevecam> wtf
[05:00] <stevecam> i search ubuntu in google and i get this http://algatux.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/ubuntu-logo.jpg
[05:01] <melrokz> :) I think your local google site has gone crazy...
[05:01] <^paradox^> xangua: everything was fine til today with flv and wmv
[05:01] <stevecam> if i install the RC of 10.04, will there be any problems updating to the official release?
[05:02] <SwedeMike> !final | stevecam
[05:02] <smoked1> Maybe I should just remove this drive from the usb elclosure and just use ATA
[05:03] <stevecam> SwedeMike, i dont plan on reinstalling for a while, would you advise me to install the RC now or wait 4 days?
[05:03] <melrokz> How do I convert mp4 to ogv?
[05:04] <melrokz> using ffmpeg?
[05:04] <nsadmin> ffmpeg has no docs?
[05:04] <freezway> try man ffmpeg
[05:04] <^paradox^> xangua: im not sure how this happened, but i like having an alternative to mplayer. there a way to fix this?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> ffmpeg has a whole Homepage full of docs.. and 100's of web sites with details on its ussage
[05:05] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=979682 melrokz
[05:05] <SwedeMike> stevecam: if you get it installed now ok, then there should be no problems going forward to keep it updated.
[05:05] <SwedeMike> stevecam: so little harm in trying
[05:05] <xangua> ^paradox^ maybe adding the vlc PPA if you don't want to wait
[05:05] <skrite> melrokz, vlc can probably do it
[05:05] <xangua> https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc
[05:05] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone in here get netflix to work on ubuntu?
[05:05] <apstanto> I have an ibm laptop with a Pentium III. Should I install the 32bit version of ubuntu 9.10 server or the 64bit?
[05:05] <xangua> ^paradox^ but don't know if it's aviable for hardy
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> pentium 3's were never availible as 64-bit.
[05:06] <stevecam> linux_is_my_hero, netflix is a DVD
[05:06] <nsadmin> Dr_Willis: would you say the man page is a detail-packed summary best used as a reference?
[05:06] <stevecam> rental company
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> stevecam, they have unlimited instant streaming via their website
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> nsadmin:  man pages are normally not ment to be a 'tutorial' they are for referance.
[05:06] <apstanto> so I should use the 32bit?
[05:06] <stevecam> oh
[05:06] <melrokz> k, i'll try
[05:06] <stevecam> i havn't noticed that
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> apstanto: yes :-)
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> nsadmin:  they never have been ment tobe a tutorial :)
[05:06] <apstanto> Thanks :)
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> stevecam: 9 bucks a month...totally unlimited live streams...:-)
[05:07] <linux_is_my_hero> stevecam: blockbuster is not going to like it :-D
[05:07] <nsadmin> understood... so my question is do you think that's true for ffmpeg, and there are other, better things to point someone new towards?
[05:07] <^paradox^> brb
[05:07] <smoked1> I give up for tonight. Thanks for trying guys.
[05:07] <linux_is_my_hero> apstanto: sure!  good luck, welcome to linux 8-)
[05:07] <stevecam> linux_is_my_hero, sorry, i was getting confused with webflicks and quickflix
[05:08] <linux_is_my_hero> stevecam: its cool :-)
[05:08] <linux_is_my_hero> no worries
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> nsadmin:  ffmpeg and mencoder are VERY complex tools. and their homepage/faq/wiki pages are the best places to get info on them
[05:09] <nsadmin> cool... thanks
[05:09] <kcj1993> how do I make a desktop shortcut to a console app?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> kcj1993:  you could make a script and copy it to the desktop - or make a launcher that runs the app..  what app exactly?
[05:10] <switch10_> kcj1993: right click on desktop and create launcher
[05:10] <nsadmin> he probably means it needs to be run in a terminal
[05:10] <brando753> anyone know the uri to enter into cups for a infared printer?
[05:10] <chitti> any one knows  how to explore the filemanager
[05:10] <kcj1993> nsadmin, correct
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> chitti:  clarify what you mean
[05:11] <chitti> file manager
[05:11] <chitti> i mean explorer
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> kcj1993:  make a launcher that runs a terminal with the app..  'gnome-terminal -e mc' (for example)
[05:11] <switch10_> kcj1993: under type, choose application in terminal
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> chitti:  thats not  any more clear...
[05:11] <kcj1993> oh
[05:11] <kcj1993> ok
[05:11] <melrokz> hmm.... looks like ffmpeg doesn't like theora encoding: ffmpeg -formats: D V    theora          Theora
[05:11] <melrokz> right?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> melrokz:  it can proberly be compiled in if you wanted to.
[05:12] <chitti> in xp windows+e will explore the file manager ............what abt in ubuntu
[05:12] <kcj1993> sweet
[05:13] <switch10_> chitti: do you mean open nautilus?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> melrokz:  i got here -->  EV    libtheora       libtheora Theora
[05:13] <kcj1993> thanks guys
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> chitti:  your use of the term 'explore' is not very exacting..
[05:13] <chitti> i know that nautilus foldername  but not like that
[05:13] <melrokz> is it: ./configure --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis ?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> melrokz:  no idea.  Id have to suggest check the various gides for rebuilding ffmpeg
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> melrokz:  im using the one in 10.04 :) so mine may differ then from yours.
[05:15] <natarajan>  I have mint8 software in cd how to i install the cd in ubuntu 9.10
[05:15] <melrokz> 0.5.1
[05:15] <chitti> guys what abt "lucid".was it move to standard use
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> chitti:  its tobe relesed on the 29th
[05:16] <switch10_> natarajan: you want to install packages from it?  if so add the cd as a source
[05:16] <chitti> was it good? i think you might be using that
[05:16] <bazhang> natarajan, what do you mean by 'mint software'
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> chitti:  i AM using it.  if you want to try it.. then go get the RC and try it
[05:17] <chitti> hmm i can't
[05:17] <stevecam> Thank you guys for Ubuntu, I feel like I own my PC again :-)
[05:17] <chitti> i already have 3 os in my laptop
[05:18] <natarajan> s . its  a another version
[05:18] <natarajan> like ubuntu
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Mint has a few tools  that are not in the normal ubuntu.. but not much - last i checked it out.
[05:18] <bazhang> natarajan, yes, its a derivative of Ubuntu, not supported here
[05:18] <ubuntu> can anyone answer my newly posed quetion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9170479#post9170479 ?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> I suggest learning to use the normal ubuntu and not using Mint
[05:18] <bazhang> natarajan, what did you wish to install particularly
[05:19] <natarajan> k. thanks guys
[05:20] <apstanto> Can I set up two external hard drives with RAID 2 without having to repartition them, or delete the files one of them?
[05:20] <zzypot> can someone help me i want to install ubuntu  but dont want to screw it up
[05:21] <SwedeMike> apstanto: RAID2?
[05:22] <hoonteke> what is the workspace switcher binary name?  so that I use it with apport-bug?
[05:22] <electrickery>  I am new to IRC, so don't if this will work.. I am using Jaunty, and Firefox.  I have tried to install Flash.  It appears in the AddOn list ok.  But Australian ABC iView doesn't play.  Does anyone know about this?
[05:22] <carlosqueso> zzypot: are you going to insall alongside a windows install or as the only OS on your computer?
[05:23] <zzypot> dualboot
[05:23] <carlosqueso> check out http://seogadget.co.uk/the-ubuntu-installation-guide/
[05:23] <hoonteke> electrickery: right idea, but it ain't quite  so simple yet.  Instead, go to System->Administration->Synaptic.
[05:23] <apstanto> I thought RAID 2 was where two hard drives are mirrored with the same data on both...
[05:23] <zzypot> i had windows vista on here then upgraded to windows 7
[05:23] <hoonteke> electrickery: when it opens, search for 'flashplugin' in the search bar
[05:24] <hoonteke> electrickery: then select flashplugin-nonfree
[05:24] <hoonteke> electrickery: mark it for installation, then click apply.  It should go download, and install it automagically.
[05:24] <tocino> hey
[05:24] <hoonteke> electrickery: then restart firefox and you should be good to go
[05:24] <SwedeMike> apstanto: no, that is RAID1.
[05:24] <carlosqueso> zzypot...there are some pretty simple options....I'd go ahead and reduce the partition size through windows though if you want to be absolutely sure that you don't screw up your windows partition....I'm pretty sure that the linux partition tools work well now, but it's better not to chance it
[05:25] <tocino> lets play tremulous common
[05:25] <zzypot> i dont have no windows vista cd so how would i go about doing this
[05:25] <apstanto> Oh, sorry...that's what I meant.  RAID 1.
[05:25] <carlosqueso> zzypot...I've got VISTA on my dual-boot machine (and haven't used it for years) so I"m not too well-versed
[05:25] <tocino> who wants to play
[05:26] <bazhang> !ot > tocino
[05:26] <tocino> ok how
[05:26] <electrickery> hoonteke:  I only installed flashplugin installer.  Should I uninstall that before installing nonfree?
[05:26] <_pg_> how do I know if transmission going through Tor is working or not?
[05:26] <brando753> anyone know the uri to enter into cups for a infared printer?
[05:26] <tocino> ubottu how do i see et
[05:27] <isolat3dsh33p> lol
[05:27] <hoonteke> electrickery: I ... don't konw.  yes.  The worst that'll happen is that you have to reinstall it, so give it a try.  uninstall flashplugin installer, and install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:27] <bazhang> tocino, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please
[05:27] <binil> i love sabayon
[05:27] <zzypot> so how do i fix the partition in windows
[05:27] <electrickery> hoonteke:  Thanks. I'll give it a go.
[05:28] <binil> SABAYON has cool graphics and hands
[05:28] <chitti> fix means what?
[05:28] <binil> *GAMES
[05:28] <apstanto> Can I set up two external hard drives with RAID1 without having to repartition them, or delete the files one of them?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[05:29] <carlosqueso> zzypot: first defrag your HD...then you may be able to click on "Computer" and click "Manage", you should then be able to shrink your windows partition....if you are just testing an ubuntu install, 10 GB will be plenty
[05:30] <carlosqueso> zzypot: http://seogadget.co.uk/how-to-resize-a-windows-vista-partition/ has some vista instructions that may work in windows 7 too
[05:31] <SwedeMike> apstanto: yes, what you do is you create raid1 with one drive missing on one of the drives, then you copy all the data to it, then you add the second drive to the raid1.
[05:31] <tocino> lets play tremulous
[05:31] <tocino> plzzzzz
[05:31] <bazhang> tocino, not here
[05:31] <carlosqueso> zzypot...once you get the partitions set up...the installer should work fine
[05:31] <tocino> ok
[05:31] <bazhang> tocino, this is not the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:32] <tocino> ok  sorry
[05:32] <tocino> sorry thanks man
[05:32] <nik1> Hi guys.. I got a problem with my windows share.. can anyone help me out?
[05:32] <apstanto> SwedeMike: ok.  That makes sense.  I'm gonna research it a little more, but I think I understand!
[05:32] <pakete> is there network-manager-pptp-gnome package for 9.10?
[05:34] <nik1> Hi guys.. I got a problem with my windows share.. can anyone help me out?
[05:35] <hoonteke> electrickery: that do the trick?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> nik1:  give more details and someone might know the answer.
[05:37] <electrickery> hoonteke:  No, sadly.  It did bring in the  flashplugin installer again, all looks good, but the site I am trying to vies dousnt work http://www.abc.net.au/iview/
[05:37] <nik1> @Dr_Willis: well a friend of mine is sharing a folder with me and I can see it in my nautilus at smb://<his_machine_name>/ i can see the folders.. but when I try to open them it throws an error "filed to mount windows share"
[05:37] <nik1> failed*
[05:38] <tazz> why cant i cd into a dir with perms "drw-r--r--" why does it have to be "drwxr-xr-x" ?
[05:38] <hoonteke> electrickery: hmm. it works for me, so there's something we're missing ... what kernel are you running?  If you can open up a terminal and type 'uname -a' ...
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> nik1:  windoes may be blocking somthing. OR you can try entering the full path to the share. smb://machinename/sharename
[05:39] <tazz> Linux hostname 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:39] <tazz> hoonteke, ^
[05:39] <tazz> oops
[05:39] <switch10_> tazz: that shouldn't matter with a dir...
[05:40] <switch10_> tazz: it works only if you add the u+x?
[05:40] <hoonteke> tazz: err ... are you electrickery?
[05:40] <tazz> switch10_, it does matter for me, that is what baffles me.
[05:40] <tazz> hoonteke, nope. Thats why i said "oops" my bad hoonteke
[05:40] <nik1> Dr_Willis: Ohh!yes its a file on Win* NTFS drive.. well I think thats the cause I'll try to share a folder in /home.. and see if it works
[05:41] <electrickery> hoonteke: 2.6.28-18-generic ???
[05:41] <hoonteke> electrickery: what's the full output of the uname -a.  not just the version number, please.
[05:42] <electrickery> 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:42] <nik1> Dr_Willis: Yes thats IS the issue.. OK what exactly will solve the problem? cause there are many folders on NTFS drives which I would want to share and I can't paste everythin in /hom n share
[05:42] <mossby> Any Imagemagick veterans out there tonight?
[05:42] <hoonteke> mossby: ask your question
[05:43] <mossby> Why isn't this looping : convert A*.bmp  B*.bmp -compose Overlay -composite socialblend_%0d.png
[05:43] <shashi> hi
[05:43] <hoonteke> or, more generally in *any* IRC channel, the suggestion is usually "Don't ask to ask.  Just ask."
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> nik1:  youy have to munt the ntfs filesystems with the proper options. OR you may want to NOT use the 'user created share' feature. but instead make the shares by ediing the /etc/samba/smb.conf file and share  /media/  perhaps.
[05:43] <shashi> I have an issue with TUN module can somebody help?
[05:43] <shashi> (sorry if I am interrupting>
[05:44] <nsadmin> shashi: when you share the specifics, people who hear them will know if they can
[05:44] <shashi> sure...
[05:44] <shashi> I am trying to connect to VPN
[05:44] <shashi> and it says modprobe tun failed
[05:44] <hoonteke> mossby: define looping.  what do you want to happen?
[05:44] <shashi> but tun is built into lucid  (BTW I just installed lucid)
[05:45] <shashi> I am trying to install the VPN client
[05:45] <nsadmin> a good thing to find out is why the modprobe failed (btw did you reboot after upgrading)
[05:45] <nik1> OK I just mount it with the default click n mount of ubuntu.. You think adding them to fstab with some specific permissions will solve the problem? If yes then what permissions exactly? and for the smb.conf, I'll try that out..
[05:45] <nik1> Dr_Willis:OK I just mount it with the default click n mount of ubuntu.. You think adding them to fstab with some specific permissions will solve the problem? If yes then what permissions exactly? and for the smb.conf, I'll try that out..
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> if you want a perment share. You may need to use the fstab or command line tomount them
[05:46] <mossby> hoonteke: I have fifty A*.bmp files (A0001.bmp, A0002.bmp) and fifty B*.bmp -- I want to turn those into fifty socialblend_0#.pngs
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> nik1:  perhaps run the 'ntfs-config' tool to set the things tobe writeable/readable .
[05:46] <electrickery> hoonteke: 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:46] <hoonteke> mossby: but I'm confused by this looping construct
[05:47] <hoonteke> electrickery: good, hmm, so that's *not* a 64-bit machine?
[05:47] <nik1> Dr_Willis:ntfs-config has to be installed from synaptic?
[05:47] <mossby> hoonteke: I'm not 100% sure it's there... I assumed the wildcards would "loop" it by default
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> nik1:  or via apt-get
[05:47] <nsadmin> mossby: first convert them (so they'll have .png endings) then rename them
[05:47] <hoonteke> mossby: does 'convert A0001.bmp B0001.bmp -compose Overlay -composit socialblend_%0d.png' work as expected?
[05:48] <hoonteke> mossby:  what's the output from what you're doing now, a single file?
[05:48] <electrickery> hoonteke: Don't reckon.. Acer Aspire 3000 AMD Sempron 2800
[05:49] <mossby> hoonteke: Yes, wonderfully, it basically blends the two images together into a third, I want to blend 50 pairs together to create 50 blends.... output is a single file, which is blended properly, but the %d never increments past zero
[05:49] <nik1> Dr_Willis: Ok thanks a lot :)
[05:50] <TyanColte> i cant get grub2 to install right
[05:51] <nsadmin> look right, install left!
[05:51] <shashi> I amgetting this on lucid RC, "Modprobe for Tun driver failed", donno how to fix
[05:51] <hoonteke> mossby: I don't know how to make imagemagick loop, but I can do it with the shell:
[05:51] <hoonteke> mossby: for i in {01..50}; do echo convert A00$i.bmp B00$1.bmp -compose Overlay -composite socialblend_$i.png; done
[05:51] <hoonteke> mossby: if that output looks right, then remove the echo, and away you'll go.
[05:51] <hoonteke> electrickery: I don't know that hardware, but I'll take your word for it
[05:51] <nsadmin> what shell has that syntax?
[05:51] <hoonteke> nsadmin: bash
[05:51] <TyanColte> every time i try i follow the wiki it seems to do right but when i do grub-install -v it says like 1.97 beta
[05:52] <mossby> hoonteke: Thanks, ill give it a try
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  1.97 is grub2
[05:52] <mossby> hoonteke: :D ive got good feeling about this tho!
[05:52] <TyanColte> what happened to the graphic interface i've seen in pictures
[05:52] <hoonteke> mossby: bug: replace $1 with $i.  I always do that by accident.
[05:52] <Jordan_U> TyanColte: It's not used by default.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  its not been compiled in to the grub2 in ubuntu i imagine
[05:53] <TyanColte> http://principiantsubuntu.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/grub-2.jpg?w=400&h=325
[05:53] <TyanColte> i want it to look like this
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  you will have some work to do then.
[05:53] <nsadmin> this graphic interface is to what, setting up grub? or booting
[05:53] <nsadmin> ?
[05:53] <hoonteke> electrickery: generally, thanks to adobe not support 64 bit until very recently, the 32bit flash has been way stronger than 64 bit flash, so I'm surprised it isn't working.  my only real advice is to keep googling with the search terms relevant to your situation: jaunty flash.
[05:53] <TyanColte> click the link
[05:53] <TyanColte> grub2 is supposed to look like that
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:   its not supposed to.. it CAN look like that
[05:53] <hoonteke> electrickery: sorry, I run a 64bit machine, and dont' have handy a 32bit machine to test with.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  eventually it may look like that by default
[05:54] <TyanColte> that's why i moved to a dedicated partition because i was put under the impression that that's what my bootloader would look like, i got gipped
[05:54] <electrickery> hoonteke:  Thanks.. I'll keep looking.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  demand a refund.
[05:54] <TyanColte> very funny
[05:55] <TyanColte> it took alot of work getting it to work right the way i have my system setup
[05:55] <TyanColte> i was on a wubi installation, grub2 graphic interface was the only reason i got rid of wubi and went over to a dedicated partition installation i was under the impression that that's what it would look like
[05:56] <TyanColte> does anybody have theirs look like that?
[05:56] <nsadmin> the better question is, how do you do it
[05:56] <Jordan_U> TyanColte: I have mine like this: http://robertmh.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/grub-gets-new-face/
[05:56] <TyanColte> http://principiantsubuntu.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/grub-2.jpg
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> a lot of work for a grub menu that you see for just a few seconds. :)
[05:57] <mossby> hoonteke: Haha! You just made my night! Works perfectly! now to use mencoder to string it into an avi! thanks so much
[05:57] <nsadmin> people who don't, can possibly still answer if they're familiar enough with grub2
[05:57] <hoonteke> mossby: no worries.  the shell is an awesome to learn right
[05:58] <TyanColte> but the black and white text of regular grub looks like shit, i'd rather have bootcamp on mac if i didn't despise apple for everything but their iphones
[05:58] <dek_ugenk> hi all
[05:58] <TyanColte> - the s word
[05:58] <TyanColte> sorry for the cursing
[05:58] <dek_ugenk> need help : my integrated mic wont work on my acer 2930z
[05:58] <mossby> hoonteke: yah, im a bit embarrassed how easy it was... I know the shell is powerful, but haven't really had to WORK work from the terminal before, thanks again
[05:58] <hoonteke> *awesome "tool"
[05:58] <dek_ugenk> i use karmic
[05:58] <hoonteke> mossby: gotcha.
[05:59] <hoonteke> mossby: heh, you should see some of the commandlines I've created before.  The power of pipes is frickin' awesome ...
[05:59] <dek_ugenk> need help : my integrated mic wont work on my acer 2930z, i use karmic
[06:00] <nsadmin> mossby: obviously it would be worth your time to learn a shell or a non-shell scripting language (shell code is somewhat hard to read and hard to understand in many cases)
[06:00] <TyanColte> so basically all my efforts were in vain?
[06:00] <nsadmin> starting out, all your efforts would be in artery
[06:00] <hoonteke> nsadmin: I agree that it can be hard to read, but I'd claim that, just like perl, unreadable shell code, is largely a function of the coder, not the language.
[06:01] <shoaib_silver> hi
[06:01] <nsadmin> there are constructs that are just weird looking :)
[06:01] <dek_ugenk> need help : my integrated mic wont work on my acer 2930z, i use karmic
[06:01] <hoonteke> nsadmin: that said, here's an ugly one-liner I just created recently
[06:01] <hoonteke> mossby: git log | \grep ^commit | awk {'print $2'} | dev/html_diff_generator.py | gzip |
[06:01] <hoonteke> ssh -S "$ControlSocket" "$WebServer" "gunzip > $RemoteDir/commits_new.html; mv $RemoteDir/commits{_new,}.html"
[06:01] <hoonteke> :-)
[06:02] <TyanColte> anybody know a good dock for ubuntu?
[06:02] <shoaib_silver> sorry
[06:02] <xangua> TyanColte: docky, docky2, avant windows navigator, cairo dock
[06:02] <hoonteke> TyanColte: dock? like docking station?  isn't that a hardware issue? not a software?
[06:02] <TyanColte> i don't like cairo dock
[06:02] <nsadmin> perl is kinda notorious since it's not a static grammar and its syntax is ambiguous in some cases, which would get resolved by the semantics
[06:02] <shoaib_silver> hi
[06:02] <TyanColte> hoonteke: not hardware dock, a software app dock
[06:03] <TyanColte> like rocketdock for windows
[06:03] <dek_ugenk> need help : my integrated mic wont work on my acer 2930z, i use karmic
[06:03] <toyo|desk> do I have to downgrade to grub-legacy from grub2 in order to be able to dual boot ubuntu and XP?
[06:03] <hoonteke> TyanColte: heh, I haven't used windows in 4 years.  I dont' know what rocketdock is ... :-)
[06:03] <Jordan_U> toyo|desk: No, why would you think that?
[06:03] <mossby> nsadmin: hoonteke: Yeah, I'm terrible. I understand pseudo code more or less, and have messed around with plenty of backend web stuff (ruby, php, jquery)... so really, I should have learned some console skills by now
[06:03] <TyanColte> you're problem not mine, windows 7 is the bomb
[06:04] <toyo|desk> Jordan_U, because windows will not boot after upgrading to grub2
[06:04] <hoonteke> TyanColte: hah. problem? I think not ...
[06:04] <hoonteke> :-)
[06:04] <nsadmin> grub legacy has this weird bug involving wheterh the disk is partitioned or not
[06:04] <TyanColte> although ubuntu 9.10 is pretty awesome
[06:04] <nilsma> dek_ugenk: try opening alsamixer and see if its enabled there
[06:04] <Jordan_U> toyo|desk: Does it show in the grub menu? If so what happens when you select windows?
[06:04] <Name141> How do you install openssh server agian? sudo apt-get install openssh-server ?
[06:04] <TyanColte> hoonteke:  yea, it's a problem, i've had windows 7 since before it was released and never had a crash, cryptic error, or problem yet
[06:04] <rww> Name141: yes
[06:04] <dek_ugenk> nilsma : yes its enabled...but when i try to record i only hear noise not my voice
[06:05] <nsadmin> the jist is... don't use grub legacy on a drive that doesn't have partitions
[06:05] <toyo|desk> Jordan_U, yes it shows and when I select it to start the screen goes blank with a blinking cursor in the top left corner
[06:05] <Name141> rww: ok, I went back to karmic seeing as the shutdown 'error' is the same in both distros
[06:05] <mossby> nsadmin: hoonteke: but I am editing experimental videos from the command line....  that looks pretty good on the ol linux resume :D
[06:05] <TyanColte> hoonteke: besides, how do you run most mainstream programs, most don't support linux
[06:06] <Name141> I'm still getting "system halted" and it doesn't power off completly on a shut down.
[06:06] <nilsma> dek_ugenk: oki, then im sorry to say i dont know enough about the subject to help you, hopefully someone else knows what you should do to make it work properly
[06:06] <dek_ugenk> nilsma : thx
[06:06] <nsadmin> I need to convert flv videos to mpeg4s... when I try, the audio stops being in sync, and the movie ends and the audio is cut off (so the audio is slower)
[06:07] <dek_ugenk> need help : my integrated mic not work on my acer 2930z, i just hear noise when i try to record, i use karmic
[06:08] <hoonteke> TyanColte: for my work purposes, I get along just fine.  Firefox, OpenOffice, Matlab and octave (both, for complementary hipes and gripes), thunderbird, audacity, inkscape & gimp (I use both on a regular basis), VirtualBox, Evince (pdfs, which I like a *hell* of a lot better than Adobe's product)
[06:08] <hoonteke> all of them are better, IMHO than some of their proprietary equivalences.
[06:09] <Jordan_U> toyo|desk: It sounds like the windows bootloader is damaged for some reason, try running fixboot from the recovery console and follow this guide to restore grub afterward: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[06:09] <TyanColte> hoonteke: granted there are some great alternatives to the mainstream windows applications, but my question is, do you play games, haven't you noticed that none have linux installers?
[06:09] <Name141> rww: do you think updating the BIOS would help it?
[06:10] <hoonteke> TyanColte: that would be one area in which I don't dwell, and to which you do have a point
[06:10] <gogeta> TyanColte: wine can handel most games and there is a few mmo with linux installers
[06:10] <hoonteke> TyanColte: dont' have much time for games.
[06:10] <TyanColte> gogeta: nice name btw, but wine dosn't handle D3d natively and i do not prefer openGL it results in lower framerates
[06:10] <hoonteke> gogeta: if you say so, but my experience has been, even with something as old as, say, Starcraft, that TyanColte is quite right.  The gaming situation on Linux is lacking.
[06:11] <rww> Name141: did it used to work and now doesn't, or has it never worked?
[06:11] <TyanColte> hoonteke: thanks for the props
[06:11] <Name141> rww: It worked in windows
[06:11] <toyo|desk> Jordan_U, alright I will try and find my XP cd thanks
[06:11] <toyo|desk> :)
[06:11] <gogeta> hoonteke: try the newer 1x wine it handels abought anything
[06:11] <rww> Name141: In Ubuntu, I mean
[06:11] <Name141> rww: this is the first linux it's ever seen
[06:11] <rww> Name141: ah
[06:12] <hoonteke> TyanColte: there is a Alien Arena, which I believe is native linux and is a FPS.  I was very impressed with it's performance.  I tried it about 6 months ago.
[06:12] <rww> Name141: Yeah, you could try updating the BIOS. It's unlikely to help, but it could.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> toyo|desk: You're welcome.
[06:12] <Name141> rww: I have no idea where I could get the BIOS for that old a machine.  I wonder if Gateway Tech Support would help?
[06:13] <MrGoodkat> im on karmic and get following error in aften when im trying to open files >2GB:  "Value too large for defined data type - could not open file"
[06:13] <Name141> rww: I also don't have a floppy disk anymore
[06:13] <gogeta> TyanColte: well if your worryed aboughtlosing 2fps in the transcode i guess thats on you
[06:13] <MrGoodkat> anyway i can redefine the max value
[06:13] <MrGoodkat> *any way?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> MrGoodkat:  open with what exactly?
[06:14] <TyanColte> hoonteke: dont' get me wrong, the native linux apps on the software center work great with the linux hardware/software combination and gogeta: i beg to differ, i play WoW and on windows with full d3d 11 support i get a full 60FPS but on Ubuntu with openGL i only get like 12 FPS unless i turn off some important graphical options
[06:14] <MrGoodkat> aften
[06:14] <MrGoodkat> Dr_Willis im trying to reencode a dts stream to ac3
[06:15] <gogeta> TyanColte: thats due to dx11 wine hasent gotten good emu on that
[06:15] <itilious> when im trying to run this command: tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.3a.tar.gz -C /opt
[06:15] <gogeta> TyanColte: run it in dx10
[06:15] <itilious> i'm getting this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/422041/
[06:15] <MrGoodkat> i never had that problem in jaunty
[06:15] <itilious> why can't i extract this in ubuntu 9.1 x64?
[06:16] <DexterLB> hi
[06:16] <DexterLB> houston I have a problem :(
[06:16] <rww> itilious: because that command has both -x for extract and -c for create new archive, which is nonsensical.
[06:16] <TyanColte> gogeta: it dosen't have to be dx11 with DX in general WoW runs better than on OpenGL
[06:17] <freezway> how do I change the tty resolution?
[06:17] <Alexander> hello today i'm join ubuntu
[06:17] <itilious> wow, i got it straight from their website (xampp)
[06:17] <rww> itilious: if you're trying to extract that tar.gz, remove the -c /opt off the end
[06:17] <itilious> is xampp not good then to use as a test server for a noob? lol
[06:17] <freezway> DexterLB, just ask, dont ask for permission ot ask
[06:17] <rww> ubottu: xampp | itilious
[06:17] <itilious> thanks :)
[06:18] <TyanColte> anybody how to get a ntfs partition to automount on karmic?
[06:18] <gogeta> TyanColte: i run it in dx9 full speed on both windows and linux dx9 being i dont have a dx10 card
[06:18] <DexterLB> freezway: yeah I know but I think just now I remembered how to fix my problem
[06:18] <freezway> lol
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  add a proper entry for it in /etc/fstab.
[06:18] <rama_> Hi there
[06:18] <TyanColte> gogeta: world of warcraft?
[06:18] <gogeta> TyanColte: yea
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  example entry --> UUID=6A62B9CC1192CB2D/media/VistaBootntfs-3gdefaults,locale=en_US.UTF-800
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> doh.. spaces dident paste.. thats odd
[06:19] <gogeta> TyanColte: but your right on opengl your removing a emulation layer hence more speed
[06:19] <itilious> rww, now i'm getting this error after removing the "-c /opt" http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/422043/
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  example entry --> UUID=6A62B9CC1192CB2D /media/VistaBoot ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-800
[06:19] <maple1> ASDFDSADASD
[06:19] <maple1> ASD
[06:19] <maple1> ASD
[06:19] <FloodBot1> maple1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <DexterLB> fixed ;)
[06:19] <itilious> the file IS on the desktop
[06:19] <TyanColte> gogeta: bad thing is wow doesn't support opengl by default so it dosen't run right proper using the opengl flag
[06:20] <rww> itilious: you're not on the desktop. Like ubottu said, we don't support xampp installs.
[06:20] <gogeta> TyanColte: why i use dx9
[06:20] <itilious> i'm just simply trying to find out how to extract an archive to the /opt folder though
[06:20] <TyanColte> there's not really an option to change it
[06:21] <rww> itilious: the webpage probably meant -C instead of -c
[06:21] <gogeta> TyanColte: same flage to use opengl
[06:21] <mossby> I realize now I could probably automate the entire process
[06:21] <TyanColte> -directx9?
[06:21] <TyanColte> or 10
[06:21] <itilious> rww, ha ha i actually just did that too when installing the ubuntu guest OS additions
[06:22] <itilious> thanks again :)
[06:22] <gogeta> TyanColte: lemmie look
[06:22] <TyanColte> gogeta: ok, i want to at least use 10 if possible cuz my laptop card supports it
[06:22] <JuanCarlosPaco> hello, go0d N!ghtz
[06:22] <JuanCarlosPaco> here charming the python
[06:23] <gogeta> TyanColte: you do it threw winetrick
[06:23] <gogeta> winetricks
[06:23] <foul_owl> anyone know why gnome won't save my file view preferences
[06:23] <TyanColte> gogeta: what's winetricks?
[06:23] <gogeta> TyanColte: with the naic dlls installed it uses dx9
[06:23] <gogeta> http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[06:24] <gogeta> TyanColte: with the nativ dlls it will use the version of directx you install
[06:25] <gogeta> TyanColte: tricks the games
[06:27] <gogeta> TyanColte: i guess for dx10 set your windows ver to vista should force wow to dx10
[06:27] <itilious> whats the alternative in ubuntu to use "su"?
[06:27] <rama_> sudo
[06:27] <itilious> do i use type in sudo before the command and presto?
[06:27] <itilious> ah ha, right on
[06:27] <hnd> yup
[06:27] <itilious> thanks rama_
[06:28] <itilious> and hnd :)
[06:28] <rama_> welcome
[06:28] <hnd> noo probs :D
[06:28] <TyanColte> gogeta: i don't see nativ dlls
[06:28] <gogeta> TyanColte: winetricks does it all for you
[06:29] <TyanColte> so i install directx 9 from winetricks?
[06:29] <JuanCarlosPaco> buenas noches
[06:29] <gogeta> TyanColte: then just set the windows ver to vista
[06:29] <achilles> i want to view the stack during a function call operation, how can i achieve my goal..?
[06:29] <TyanColte> i'll stick with xp wine doesn't have the proper parameters to emulate vista and windows 7 sofware audio apis
[06:29] <TyanColte> yet
[06:30] <gogeta> TyanColte: once you got winetricks just sh winetricks d3dx10
[06:30] <rama_> Hi I installed WINE hoping that it can open .exe files. It opens .exe files to only half way, and some error popups (mostly looking for dll files)
[06:30] <gogeta> TyanColte: it will handel seeting the dlls
[06:31] <rama_> Can anyone pls shed some light how to open Windows exe files
[06:31] <TyanColte> d3dx10 works with windows xp anyway so i'll just stick with winxp mode
[06:31] <JuanCarlosPaco> rama_:  why do you want to run exe ?
[06:31] <hnd> rama_ wine
[06:31] <gogeta> TyanColte: then do it with dx9
[06:31] <TyanColte> if i use anything else the sound on wow won't work
[06:31] <xangua> what kind of apps are you trying to run rama_¿
[06:31] <xangua> !appdb | rama_
[06:31] <gogeta> TyanColte: it should speed up the emulation alot
[06:31] <TyanColte> so sh winetricks d3dx9?
[06:31] <rama_> Thanks Juan, hand and Xangua
[06:31] <gogeta> TyanColte: yea
[06:32] <TyanColte> gogeta: thanks
[06:32] <hnd> rama_ use wine... it runs windows apps
[06:32] <rama_> I want to run some Transport Planning applications
[06:32] <TyanColte> error
[06:32] <TyanColte> chrisrogers@ChrisRogers-PC:~$ sh winetricks d3dx9
[06:32] <TyanColte> ------------------------------------------------------
[06:32] <TyanColte> sha1sum mismatch!  Rename /home/chrisrogers/.winetrickscache/./directx_feb2010_redist.exe and try again.
[06:32] <TyanColte> ------------------------------------------------------
[06:32] <FloodBot1> TyanColte: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <gogeta> TyanColte: oh
[06:32] <rama_> So Hnd, is Wine only limited to open windows builtin apps ???
[06:32] <JuanCarlosPaco> rama_:  check planner
[06:33] <TyanColte> i did d3dx10 first and i ctrl+c it when u said use dx9
[06:33] <rama_> check planner ?
[06:33] <JuanCarlosPaco> something msproject-ish ?
[06:33] <gogeta> TyanColte: yea just delete the file in that dir its confusing it
[06:33] <rama_> juan:  OK
[06:33] <gogeta> TyanColte: that will fix that
[06:33] <JuanCarlosPaco> planner is a linux program to general purpose planning
[06:33] <TyanColte> gogeta: i just got floodbotted
[06:34] <ubuntubama> xo
[06:34] <hnd> rama_ :yup
[06:34] <hnd> well it was made for running windows apps...
[06:34] <gogeta> TyanColte: just delete the file in the dir its telling you and do it again
[06:35] <TyanColte> gogeta: i got it
[06:35] <itilious> whenever I try to create a launcher no icon is created on the desktop and I can't figure out where ubuntu is having the error
[06:35] <TyanColte> gogeta: i don't know if you can see me, i just got floodbotted
[06:35] <rama_> Juan and Had, do you know how to install windows setup application in ubuntu ???
[06:35] <gogeta> TyanColte: i see you
[06:35] <TyanColte> gogeta: ok
[06:36] <hoonteke> mossby: you probably can.  I see a lot of blogs go by about automating media stuffs with the shell
[06:36] <TyanColte> gogeta: when i pasted that error i got floodbotted
[06:36] <JuanCarlosPaco> rama_: probably theres no reason for that
[06:36] <TyanColte> gogeta: wtf is pastebin
[06:36] <hoonteke> mossby: but I usually find that I have to go through it the long way before it becomes "obvious" how to automate it
[06:36] <gogeta> TyanColte: lol yea its just couse another file is in the dir just delete it
[06:36] <JuanCarlosPaco> rama_: only a yet-to-know alternative
[06:36] <hoonteke> TyanColte: http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/
[06:36] <rama_> because, at the moment couple of applications are only limited to windows.
[06:36] <achilles> hello
[06:37] <achilles> is anyone there ready to help me..?
[06:37] <hoonteke> TyanColte: it's a way to share temporary but large amounts of data, so that you don't get kicked by channel bots for "sharing too much" with the room.
[06:37] <JuanCarlosPaco> rama_: search for linux alternatives, you will find good things
[06:37] <rama_> OK thanks Juan
[06:38] <rama_> Linux alternatives !
[06:38] <hoonteke> TyanColte: there are plenty of then, but they're generally called "pastebins" because pastebin.com was, I believe, the first such web site to do it.
[06:38] <freezway> hey how do i set my tty resolution to something other than 1024x768. my moniter is 1920x1080 and i have an nvidia gfx card (GTS 250)
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> !fb
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> freezway:  framebeffer can do that
[06:38] <TyanColte> gots me a new question, when i had my wubi installed i was able to see the weather on my time on my top panel, now that i have a dedicated install it's not working
[06:39] <freezway> Dr_Willis, can u elaborate?
[06:39] <JuanCarlosPaco> xrandr -s 3  # makes 800x600 on CLI
[06:39] <nilsma> achilles: ask your question and im sure they will try to help you as best as possible :)
[06:39] <TyanColte> gogeta: what do i do now that it's installed
[06:39] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, huh?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> freezway:  see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[06:39] <achilles> how to view the stack output in ubuntu..?
[06:39] <xangua> TyanColte: you need to set your location; maybe the service is temporaly unaviable
[06:40] <TyanColte> xangua: i did set my location, but it's not working
[06:40] <JuanCarlosPaco> xrandr is a CLI program to set resolution
[06:40] <gogeta> TyanColte: cd /home/chrisrogers/.winetrickscache/./
[06:40] <gogeta> /home/chrisrogers/.winetrickscache/
[06:40] <kolik> Hi, I need find parser of config file of samba. ?
[06:42] <hnd> rama_ i hope you got your answer... my laptop just got fried :P
[06:42] <freezway> Dr_Willis, I got the correct res in grub by setting GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080 but GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=keep does nothing....
[06:42] <TyanColte> gogeta: ok, now what?
[06:42] <gogeta> TyanColte: ls and do you see the dx exe
[06:43] <JuanCarlosPaco> sudo apt-get install xrandr && xrandr -s 3
[06:43] <gogeta> TyanColte: then just rm the file
[06:43] <gogeta> rm dx.exe
[06:43] <gogeta> of course use the real name and you can tab so you dont gotta type it all
[06:44] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, Package xrandr is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:44] <JuanCarlosPaco> meh, yeah
[06:44] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, also, please type my name first. u can use tab to autocomplete
[06:44] <TyanColte> it said it installed, but i'm still getting like 8 frams per second
[06:45] <gogeta> TyanColte: lol did you turn off compiz
[06:45] <DreaDy_HK> hi brothers i need help for this computer
[06:45] <DreaDy_HK> http://www.paris.cl/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/productLP_10001_40000000577_-5_51004193_18877035_151376267_18877035,13613,51004193__listProd
[06:45] <TyanColte> gogeta: no, but it uses opengl not d3d :P
[06:45] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: sudo apt-get install x11-xserver-utils
[06:45] <gogeta> TyanColte: compiz will slow your games alot
[06:45] <DreaDy_HK> that thinks for this computer ?
[06:45] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, its installed, should i run it?
[06:45] <TyanColte> gogeta: i know it was a joke, i used to have switches on my top panel, i just forgot to recreate them after the reinstall
[06:46] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway:  do you got x installed ?
[06:46] <JuanCarlosPaco> yes
[06:46] <freezway> yes
[06:46] <freezway> Juyes
[06:46] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway:  xrandr -s 3
[06:46] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: these goes to 800x600
[06:46] <gogeta> TyanColte: strange its fast on my ati
[06:46] <freezway> aggg
[06:46] <freezway> how to i get back
[06:46] <TyanColte> i've got an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600
[06:46] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: man xrandr
[06:47] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: choose the resolution that works for you
[06:47] <gogeta> TyanColte: slow card
[06:47] <TyanColte> is not
[06:47] <TyanColte> i love my lappy card
[06:47] <gogeta> TyanColte: ati 5870
[06:47] <gogeta> :P
[06:47] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, ok im back
[06:48] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, brb
[06:48] <TyanColte> gogeta: but you probably have a desktop computer
[06:48] <gogeta> TyanColte: auses g73
[06:48] <TyanColte> gogeta: laptop?
[06:49] <gogeta> TyanColte: its aa mobilty buts its the same power as a desktop card
[06:49] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, that doesn't work in the tty
[06:49] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: too bad
[06:49] <gogeta> TyanColte: currntly the fastest gpu you can get
[06:50] <JuanCarlosPaco> need to hack the grub maybe
[06:50] <JuanCarlosPaco> fb800x600
[06:50] <TyanColte> gogeta: i can't update my laptop graphics card even tho it says i have a mini pcie card
[06:50] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, I tried... got grub to go at the correct res, but not the tty
[06:50] <gogeta> TyanColte: but a 2600 is a kinda dated card
[06:50] <TyanColte> gogeta: true, but it works for any of my games very well
[06:50] <gogeta> TyanColte: even low ends use a 3200 or a 4200
[06:51] <TyanColte> gogeta: well if i could update i would, and i don't want to buy a new laptop
[06:51] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, also, when i hit ctrl alt F1 i get usplash: set mode 1152x864 failed
[06:51] <gogeta> TyanColte: thats the cool thing abought a g73 i can acess the gpu meaning i could upgrade it
[06:51] <gogeta> TyanColte: its the first of its kind
[06:51] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, then using mode 1024x768
[06:51] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: normal
[06:52] <TyanColte> gogeta: well good for you, but i don't have the cash to buy a laptop that lets me do that :P
[06:52] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: it thy from biggest resolution to smaller
[06:52] <JuanCarlosPaco> try*
[06:52] <freezway> yeah i know
[06:52] <freezway> but i want 1920x1080
[06:52] <gogeta> TyanColte: well that was the selling point for me i replaced a 6 year old desktop
[06:53] <nsadmin> will your monitor do that resolution natively?
[06:53] <freezway> yes
[06:53] <JuanCarlosPaco> xinit && xrandr -s 3
[06:53] <freezway> i am running it now, i just cant get it in the tty's
[06:53] <JuanCarlosPaco> quick'n'dirty
[06:53] <JuanCarlosPaco> :)
[06:53] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, doesn't that start X?
[06:54] <gogeta> TyanColte: wine is probly to mutch overhead for that gpu so you whernt wrong there
[06:54] <JuanCarlosPaco> and X based TTy
[06:54] <TyanColte> i'm getting like 4 FPS now
[06:54] <freezway> TyanColte, what are you runninh?
[06:54] <freezway> brb
[06:54] <TyanColte> freezway: world of warcraft
[06:54] <gogeta> TyanColte: you can always set the flls back to emu if that slowed you down
[06:55] <gogeta> dlls
[06:55] <freezway> TyanColte, have you tryed adding an -opengl tag?
[06:55] <gogeta> freezway: i was trying to spped it upp in wine for him didnt seem to work
[06:55] <gogeta> speed
[06:55] <TyanColte> it's fine, i'll just switch to windows when i want to play wow
[06:56] <freezway> TyanColte, try the -opengl tag, it works for me with wc3
[06:56] <achilles> hello, can anyone help me out..?
[06:56] <gogeta> freezway: i dont think his old gpucan handel the overhead of wine
[06:56] <JuanCarlosPaco> install it on ram, read about tmpfs, to speed up
[06:56] <achilles> i want to view the stack while execution the program..
[06:57] <achilles> how can i achieve this
[06:57] <freezway> how powerful is the comp?
[06:57] <achilles> is this not the proper channel..?
[06:58] <freezway> achilles, i dont know....
[06:58] <gogeta> freezway: ati 2600 labby
[06:58] <freezway> oooh
[06:58] <rww> achilles: Which language are you programming in?
[06:58] <JuanCarlosPaco> whats Stack?, a Debug?
[06:58] <nsadmin> achilles: try gdb
[06:59] <freezway> hey i found a hit about a similar problem someone had, it says to remove usplash, is that OK, will it hurt my comp?
[06:59] <gogeta> TyanColte: wine work good but i think your gpu just cant handel it. it relly works good with dedcated systems like mine
[06:59] <TyanColte> ok, it's not a bad system, it runs portal at full graphics settings with no loss of framerate, which is saying something
[06:59] <TyanColte> i don't like people saying my hardware is basically crap
[06:59] <gogeta> TyanColte: i can reun portal in hd on my 6 year old desktop with a ati 9200
[06:59] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: dont hurt
[07:00] <gogeta> TyanColte: its not a heavy game
[07:00] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: remove "splash" from grub kernel parameters
[07:00] <kishor666> can somebidy help me wit the  codecs for mp3
[07:00] <freezway> so its ok
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[07:00] <freezway> ok
[07:00] <freezway> where are the grub kernel parameters?
[07:00] <kishor666> thank u
[07:00] <TyanColte> gogeta: bull, the reason i got this lappy is because my old one couldn't play portal it was running a mobility radeon 9000
[07:00] <kishor666> :D
[07:00] <campee> has anyone seen a way to make a ubuntu system revert to its default state at boot time? something that is the equivalent of "deep freeze" for windows
[07:01] <gogeta> TyanColte: mobilty cards are weak to a dedcated system
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> campee:  not really. except in somehting like virtualbox/vmware
[07:01] <gogeta> TyanColte: it wasent untill the g73 did mobilty get just as strong
[07:01] <seth_g> campee, live cd/usb?
[07:01] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, where are said parameters?
[07:01] <TyanColte> gogeta: well unless i am able to upgrade this card i dont' plan on getting a new lappy any time soon, and i have no love for desktop computers, they're not portable
[07:01] <campee> live usb might be the best way to do it..
[07:01] <JuanCarlosPaco> campee: /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch
[07:02] <campee> i know how to do it with a vm but then i have to connect the machine to the vm and that makes things more difficult for the user
[07:02] <gogeta> TyanColte: well when shoping for a labby it is a bit more costly but find one with a dedcated
[07:02] <campee> this is for a library type setup
[07:02] <seth_g> oh campee
[07:02] <campee> JuanCarlosPaco: what's that?
[07:02] <TyanColte> gogeta: this was top of the line when i got it
[07:02] <truth-teller> any1 use xbmc in ubuntu?
[07:02] <seth_g> then try the netbook remix to help lock it down
[07:02] <gogeta> TyanColte: with a shard 2600 it wasent
[07:02] <freezway> gogeta, TyanColte lets not start a desktop vs laptop war
[07:02] <JuanCarlosPaco> run it, will use a session that forgets changes on reboot
[07:03] <gogeta> TyanColte: it was more a midrange
[07:03] <seth_g> or a kiosk program
[07:03] <JuanCarlosPaco> just like deep frezze thingy
[07:03] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, where are said paramters
[07:03] <TyanColte> i don't have to listen to this
[07:03] <gogeta> TyanColte: but upgrading the ram should gie it a good bost being a shard card uses that hevaly
[07:03] <TyanColte> i've got 4gb maxed out ram
[07:03] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: /boot/grub/grub.cfg (?)
[07:04] <freezway> JuanCarlosPaco, ur not s'posed to edit that with grub2
[07:04] <campee> JuanCarlosPaco: that's cool. how can you get it to boot into this?
[07:04] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: correct, you are hacking your system :)
[07:05] <gogeta> TyanColte: well its hard to find a good labby if you got it from a box store. genrely the beefy models can only be found online
[07:05] <TyanColte> gogeta: i've got a good system, it runs anything i want it to with no problem, wine just needs to support D3D natively and not emulate it and i'll be golden
[07:05] <ZykoticK9> JuanCarlosPaco, freaky[t] if you are using grub2 and want to make changes check out /etc/default/grub (or the !grub2 factoid link for more details)
[07:05] <ZykoticK9> freezway, ^
[07:05] <gogeta> TyanColte: unfortanly that will neer happon
[07:05] <JuanCarlosPaco> campee: use GDM auto-Login, and add /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch to .profile  on your home folder
[07:05] <TyanColte> gogeta: i bought mine online
[07:05] <jad> hello there
[07:06] <kishor666> i have a decade old comp n installed 5.04, fresher to ubuntu can u guys pls help???
[07:06] <jad> does anyone know of a simple chat room service online
[07:06] <chris59> Hi Guys, potential dumb question:  Are there icons for hard drives? I'm trying to mount an external win drive and I don't know if I can't see it because I don;t know where to look or because it's not mounting at all
[07:06] <jad> no signup no anything
[07:06] <gogeta> TyanColte: newegg is a good place to find models with desktop cards in them
[07:06] <TyanColte> gogeta: well then that's why i will always have a windows system dual booted
[07:06] <jad> kinda like irc
[07:06] <freezway> brb
[07:06] <TyanColte> i will never be able to have a ubuntu only system with that reason only
[07:06] <jad> help guys
[07:06] <TyanColte> because the software can't support the hardware
[07:07] <ZykoticK9> kishor666, 5.04 is way too old to be supported.  Probably better to reinstall at this point (vs trying to upgrade)
[07:07] <gogeta> TyanColte: you get a goood enough video card you dont see the diffrence
[07:07] <jad> does anyone know of a simple chat room service online ?? Without signup ?
[07:07] <TyanColte> just forget it, i've gotta go
[07:07] <rww> ubottu: ot | jad
[07:07] <jad> just create a room and chat
[07:07] <TyanColte> i'll run my games in windows 7 where i have no problems
[07:08] <TyanColte> thanks for all the help
[07:08] <kishor666> zykoticK9, i have downloaded 8.10, how do i update now?
[07:08] <gogeta> TyanColte: yea running windows for games is still the best way
[07:09] <kishor666> shud i back up all the stuff now?
[07:09] <chris59> TyanColte: go to www.oolite.org a really fun space trading combat game that runs on linux
[07:09] <JuanCarlosPaco> allways back up
[07:09] <freezway> yes back up
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> kishor666, best bet would be to backup your files and do a clean "fresh"install of the 8.10 (which is only really current for a few more days, so you'll be upgrading to something kinda outdated to begin with unfortunately) but it is at least in the ball park.
[07:10] <campee> JuanCarlosPaco: thanks, i'll play around with that
[07:10] <kishor666> no click n update kinda stuff? (pardon me, new to this OS)
[07:10] <gogeta> kishor666: i would just get the rc of the next lts.
[07:11] <JuanCarlosPaco> campee: ok, it works, i got a ciberkiosk like these, make backup of the files
[07:11] <gogeta> kishor666: that way your not updating in a few days
[07:11] <kishor666> so, only way, freshly install....???
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, kishor666 rather then using rc, wait till thursday to get lucid final
[07:11] <gogeta> kishor666: yea you fell way to far back
[07:12] <kishor666> i hav a pc havin just 256 RAM n P-III processor
[07:13] <gogeta> kishor666: you do not have to format your home partation if you have one. so any data there whont get lost
[07:13] <campee> JuanCarlosPaco: can you, as admin, customize this guest profile?
[07:13] <gogeta> kishor666: just the root or /
[07:13] <kishor666> i have only one drive partition
[07:13] <JuanCarlosPaco> campee: yes, i dont remember how to
[07:13] <kishor666> its just a 40gb hdd
[07:14] <JuanCarlosPaco> sorry
[07:14] <freezway> ok im checking one more time. removing usplash is ok. correct?
[07:14] <gogeta> kishor666: oh well that whont work for you then
[07:14] <kishor666> so wat shud i do now?
[07:15] <gogeta> kishor666: move your data on another drive like a usb
[07:15] <kishor666> then, freshluy install???
[07:15] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: its just a program, you can run anytime "xsplash" and you get it
[07:15] <gogeta> kishor666: any music videos etc
[07:15] <gogeta> kishor666: yea
[07:15] <freezway> ok
[07:16] <JuanCarlosPaco> run it now, 2 seconds and get back
[07:16] <JuanCarlosPaco> hehe
[07:16] <kishor666> OMG, i just did it a week back :-( i have two version in hand, which shud i install, keepin in mind my old comp 8.10 or 9.04???
[07:17] <gogeta> kishor666: well both will be updated in a few days
[07:17] <gogeta> kishor666: to lucid
[07:17] <kishor666> lucid?
[07:17] <gogeta> kishor666: the next ubuntu lts
[07:18] <kishor666> hmm
[07:18] <kishor666> so any of those is ok?
[07:18] <gogeta> kishor666: you can install the rc of that if you like and be fully updated
[07:18] <kishor666> sorry to ask, wats rc?
[07:18] <gogeta> kishor666: rc means pretty mutch final anyways
[07:18] <gogeta> relese canadit
[07:19] <kishor666> whoa! i learnt somethin new today !
[07:19] <kishor666> @ gogeta thanks
[07:19] <Losha> kishor666: rc == release candidate...
[07:19] <gogeta> yea nv my spelling
[07:19] <kishor666> T Y
[07:19] <kishor666> :-D
[07:19] <kishor666> wat are repositories?
[07:19] <gogeta> kishor666: or wait a cuple days for final and just upgrade then
[07:20] <Losha> if lucid follows the pattern of previous releases, there will be a stabilization phase lasting about a couple of months after the release data...
[07:20] <gogeta> Losha: its a lts so they did that aruldy
[07:20] <llutz> couple == 6 month, when next release comes :)
[07:21] <gogeta> lts last for 3 years
[07:21] <JuanCarlosPaco> 5
[07:21] <gogeta> the 6 months ones we run are all testing for the next lts
[07:21] <Losha> gogeta: I don't believe that. They are tied to a promised release data, whether they are ready for it or not. That almost always means they release what they have, then stabilize it later...
[07:21] <Losha> data -> date
[07:22] <llutz> gogeta: nice theory
[07:22] <gogeta> llutz: its how ubuntu does things
[07:22] <gogeta> llutz: we have lts and bleeding edge
[07:22] <llutz> gogeta: in theory, yes. practically its like Losha said
[07:23] <llutz> gogeta: bleeding edge? where?
[07:23] <killerz2222> testing.
[07:23] <killerz2222> quit logout
[07:23] <gogeta> llutz: well for the non lts thats correct
[07:23] <Losha> kishor666: repositories are collections of applications for you to download...
[07:23] <kishor666> hmm learnin aout this new things are interesting!
[07:23] <llutz> gogeta: please stop that fanboy-blah and look what happened after all recent releases
[07:24] <gogeta> llutz: they where alll non lts its to be expected
[07:24] <itilious> how can i give filezilla or any applicatoin the permission to write to a folder in the /opt directory?
[07:25] <kishor666> my media player says codecs not found, wat do i do now?
[07:25] <gogeta> kishor666: it should ask you if you wanna download them
[07:25] <Losha> gogeta: even for an lts, there's a feature list and a release data. Some features will be ready, some will be so unready you have to exclude them altogether, and the rest are in various states of undress, which you address over time....
[07:25] <syli725> hi, what is the best bittorrent client in linux? I used to use azureus(vuze). It was good before. but now, it's becoming too heavy. browser feature loads a lot of flash contents kills my cpu. thanks.
[07:25] <JuanCarlosPaco> Troll Detector = ON
[07:25] <JuanCarlosPaco> :)
[07:25] <Losha> D'oh. data -> date
[07:25] <freezway> hey if i want to disable splash and quit would a line in /etc/default/grub be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" instead of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[07:26] <freezway> or is there something like none you have to put there?
[07:26] <gogeta> syli725: ubuntu comes with a rather good one
[07:26] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: dont remove quiet
[07:26] <JuanCarlosPaco> freezway: remove splash
[07:26] <freezway> y not. I want to see is happening
[07:26] <llutz> !best > syli725
[07:26] <Losha> freezway: it should work like you say. And I always remove "quiet"...
[07:26] <freezway> removing quiet is like adding a --verbose correct?
[07:27] <kishor666> gogeta: it dint ask me for a download now
[07:27] <Losha> freezway: correct
[07:27] <freezway> so, is it just an empty string? do i comment it out?
[07:27] <gogeta> kishor666: what you trying to play
[07:27] <syli725> gogeta, thanks. what is the name?
[07:27] <llutz> syli725: let it be empty
[07:27] <JuanCarlosPaco> removing Quiet SlowDown the BootTimez
[07:27] <Losha> freezway: it's just a string that gets added to the boot line, either should work, but I'd let it be empty
[07:28] <gogeta> syli725: transmission it has most of the features azures has like blacklist
[07:28] <freezway> ok what does GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX do?
[07:28] <freezway> it has splash in it
[07:28] <syli725> gogeta, ok. thanks.
[07:28] <gogeta> syli725: its defult for ubuntu so you aruldy have it
[07:28] <freezway> my line is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" splash vga=769"
[07:29] <Losha> JuanCarlosPaco: yes, it probably does, though not so much that you'd notice it terribly I think...
[07:29] <syli725> gogeta, ok.
[07:29] <jsnems> sierra
[07:29] <JuanCarlosPaco> Losha: depends
[07:29] <[M]6N3H> hi all
[07:29] <gogeta> kishor666: what are you trying to play as file type is it something like a wmv or real media
[07:29] <freezway> any1 know? Losha
[07:29] <freezway> ?
[07:30] <freezway> [M]6N3H, howdy
[07:30] <Losha> freezway: sorry, I'm working from memory, I went back to grub1...
[07:30] <[M]6N3H> good
[07:30] <freezway> =(
[07:30] <[M]6N3H> y sad
[07:31] <freezway> "freezway: sorry, I'm working from memory, I went back to grub1..."
[07:31] <[M]6N3H> any pro
[07:31] <[M]6N3H> that's something
[07:31] <Losha> freezway: ?
[07:31] <freezway> yes?
[07:31] <gogeta> lol guess his file not playing wasent a big issue
[07:32] <Losha> freezway: looks like you quoted me, for some reason...
[07:32] <freezway> yes
[07:32] <freezway> someone asked why sad
[07:32] <[M]6N3H> it's me
[07:32] <Losha> freezway: oh, right, I see it now...
[07:33] <[M]6N3H> Losha:nice nick
[07:33] <Losha> [M]6N3H: thanks. If you want to chat, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place...
[07:34] <[M]6N3H> sorry
[07:34] <Losha> [M]6N3H: no problem, it's just the channel guidelines...
[07:35] <gogeta> some0one give me a problem thats chalging lol
[07:36] <freezway> so... anyone at all know what GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" splash vga=769" means?
[07:36] <gogeta> freezway: vga=769 is frweamebuffer mode
[07:36] <gogeta> framebuffer
[07:37] <freezway> so can i set it to a res like say, 1920x1080
[07:37] <gogeta> freezway: yea but the number code is diffrent
[07:37] <llutz> freezway: the vga=... notation is deprecated, gfxpayload should be used
[07:37] <freezway> ...
[07:38] <gogeta> freezway: i think 769 is that rez your asking for
[07:38] <freezway> hmmm.... i'll get back to this in the morning
[07:38] <freezway> night all
[07:39] <iceroot> how to set tty1 in a virtual-terminal-mode? (dont know the exact name) suse has somethink like that with a background and a higher resolution
[07:40] <gogeta> ack who uses dial modems
[07:40] <Ken8521> people in the sticks?
[07:40] <gogeta> Ken8521: naa they use satlites
[07:41] <Ken8521> gogeta, hardly... i know lots of folks in the sticks who use dial up, because satellite service typically sucks and is unreliable
[07:41] <Kaabi> irc://irc.freenode.net/gtk-gnutella
[07:41] <gogeta> Ken8521: yea
[07:41] <Losha> gogeta: yeah. I was surprised how many Americans are still on dial-up...
[07:41] <Mr_Sonoma> yea lots of people way out in the sticks use dial up
[07:42] <gogeta> Losha: never i would find someone with brodband and get a huge wifi antina
[07:42] <teflon> is there an option to change the order of the devices, so that dev/video1 becomes /dev/video0 ?
[07:43] <llutz> teflon: create/change the corresponding udev-rules
[07:43] <gogeta> Losha: you knoe something thats borderline illage lol
[07:44] <Losha> gogeta: I think you underestimate the distances involved. The 'sticks' can be very large and far away...
[07:44] <gogeta> Losha: and you undermastate the distance point to point can get
[07:46] <gogeta> Losha: ofcourse both partys need a high gain directinal setup
[07:46] <Losha> So what do you reckon is a feasible top distance for customised point-to-point?
[07:47] <gogeta> Losha: well the distance record was all the way across lake mitchagion
[07:47] <the_file> is is possible to make ubuntu portable the same way puppy is?.
[07:48] <gogeta> Losha: 5 miles is doable if there both mounted above the trees
[07:48] <gogeta> Losha: in most settings
[07:48] <Losha> gogeta: that's quite large, being one of the great lakes. In some areas, 5 miles just gets you to the neighbour's farm..
[07:50] <gogeta> Losha: wifi can have some killer range when you go from radio waves to a radio beam
[07:50] <teflon> llutz, from the commandline? what commands?
[07:51] <gogeta> Losha: and being point to point its also hard to leech
[07:51] <gogeta> Losha: it doesent brodcast in every direction
[07:52] <llutz> teflon: look at /lib/udev/rules.d if there are any related rule-sets. if not, create your own to create /dev/video0 depending on your device in /etc/udev/rules.d. look at the forums/wiki how
[07:52] <Losha> gogeta: yeah, that's probably the way to go...
[07:53] <gogeta> Losha: thats the setup i gave my brother being the city has free wifi but he was out of range
[07:53] <gogeta> Losha: so i got him a massiv dish array
[07:53] <gogeta> Losha: he picks up the citys wifi now hehe
[07:54] <Consul_Falx> hola
[07:55] <elia> list!
[07:55] <Consul_Falx> i have trouble with a hang on boot
[07:55] <gogeta> Losha: thers 1 catch to having a massiv reciver thow fcc limits them to 32dvi
[07:55] <gogeta> dbi
[07:55] <gogeta> Losha: anything off the shelf even range max are 5 fbi
[07:56] <gogeta> dbi
[07:56] <gogeta> Losha: so you can image the diffrence in range and the fact its being focused rather then just going in any direction
[07:57] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[07:58] <teflon> llutz, thx
[07:59] <findsndcard> !pulse
[08:00] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[08:02] <Symon> szép jó reggelt mindenkinek!
[08:02] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[08:03] <findsndcard> !ge | Symon
[08:03] <findsndcard> !de | Symon
[08:04] <Symon> oh sorry
[08:04] <Symon> :-[
[08:04] <joebike> >	if i'm setting an apache local environment with ubuntu, is there a difference between putting my dev sites in my home directory vs. the var/www/ directory?
[08:05] <hasibullah> sallam dear all i have one question that how to work with modem
[08:05] <hasibullah> i can not use dialup
[08:05] <joebike> i've seen it done both ways and was just wondering what best practices are for an ubuntu/apache dev environment
[08:05] <findsndcard> hasibullah, what software are you using?
[08:06] <Ryan1> joebike: I have everything in my home directory... makes it easier to edit
[08:06] <gogeta> hasibullah: !modem
[08:06] <gogeta> !dialup
[08:07] <gogeta> there it is
[08:07] <findsndcard> !modem | hasibullah
[08:07] <joebike> Ryan1: do you put projects in your user folder?
[08:07] <Ryan1> I have ~/www/
[08:07] <Ryan1> And yeah, it all goes in there
[08:07] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[08:07] <joebike> cool so /home/www/
[08:08] <Ryan1> No, /home/yourname/www/
[08:08] <joebike> ok got it.  and then point the default localhost to that folder?
[08:09] <Ryan1> Yes, or a subfolder if you want to have multiple hosts
[08:09] <AnTrAx> hola
[08:09] <AnTrAx> alguien que pueda sacar las redes wpa
[08:09] <llutz> !es | AnTrAx
[08:10] <joebike> cool, then if i'm running multiple hosts should i configure that with httpd.conf or the sites-available/enabled way?
[08:10] <Ryan1> Use sites-available/enabled
[08:10] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[08:11] <joebike> awesome, thanks Ryan1, much appreciated
[08:12] <thebeast_> my sound does not work can anyone help?
[08:12] <wookienz> guys, i want to set up a rsync to a mates computer through te inetrnet. What do you suggest is theebst way to encrpyty my data? on the fly as it is transmitted? secred as a copy of the original data  or what?
[08:13] <findsndcard> thebeast_: i would compile pulseaudio from source; its the only way i have been able to fix the sound on all ubuntu installs regardless of machine
[08:13] <thebeast_> ok how do i do that
[08:13] <llutz> wookienz: rsync uses ssh by default, to transfered data is encrypted
[08:13] <findsndcard> !compile | thebeast_
[08:13] <thebeast_> ok how do i do that findsndcard
[08:13] <findsndcard> thebeast_: let me find the website for you
[08:13] <wookienz> llutz: hello again... i want the data to be encrytped as well.
[08:14] <thebeast_> ok thanks findsndcard
[08:14] <llutz> wookienz: so store it to a encrypted fs
[08:14] <wookienz> llutz: do i need a sep partition of can i create a container on his existing system on a home directory fr instance?
[08:15] <raven_> disk space: what is the difference between free and available?
[08:15] <findsndcard> thebeast_: download source code from here: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/DownloadPulseAudio then open terminal, cd /home/user/Downloads, tar -xvf pulse*.gz, cd pulse*, ./configure && make && sudo make install (you may have to install the dependencies when ./configure fails)
[08:16] <llutz> wookienz: it can be a directory encrypted with ecryptfs, truecrypt, whatever
[08:16] <wookienz> ok thanks, i have heard of truecrypt so ill go look at them. thanks again
[08:16] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[08:16] <Pumpkin> Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction if I wanted to create a new partition on ubuntu? I have the default installation but would like to move my /home to another partition.
[08:17] <findsndcard> !partition | Pumpkin
[08:17] <findsndcard> !home | Pumpkin
[08:17] <llutz> raven_: if there is reserved space for root, free doesn't mean available. available is what you (user) may use
[08:18] <raven_> llutz, how to reduce that?
[08:18] <Pumpkin> ok, I'l give it a go.
[08:19] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[08:20] <llutz> raven_: tune2fs -m XX   where XX is the reserved value in percent  (dumpe2fs /dev/sdXY | grep Reserved        to show the actual value)
[08:20] <furby_> i,m trying to install the pcmcia-cs package i got the folder unziped in downloads in home
[08:20] <furby_> whats the next step
[08:20] <raven_> llutz, ok tnx
[08:20] <Tiven> hello, i used finnix to copy my /var/ /var/log /tmp/ /home each one in a partition, edited fstab but now im getting errors on boot.. its like it cant mount the partitions on startup, especially /var
[08:21] <ravenkhan> hii
[08:21] <Tiven> hi
[08:21] <shey> Crazy question people. Is there a way I can send a visual message to the person logged into this particular terminal? I am in thgrough ssh. And yeah, I have root, its my machine.
[08:21] <furby_> hi
[08:21] <llutz> shey: try "wall"
[08:21] <ravenkhan> can anyone tell me how can i enable 3d effects in my laptop
[08:22] <shey> For you info, I am in the midst of the google phase, so yeah, I am using the cow powers.
[08:22] <ravenkhan> i have ubuntu 9.1 with SIS card
[08:22] <shey> wall? ty I shall start my quest there.
[08:22] <switch10_> Tiven: what is the error?  you gave /var, and /tmp there own partitions?
[08:22] <Tiven> yes
[08:23] <Tiven> error used to be something about /var/run that couldnt be mounted
[08:23] <switch10_> Tiven: for what reason?
[08:23] <ravenkhan> hello anybody?
[08:23] <findsndcard> shey: maybe move all Desktop files to folder, make a text file on Desktop, and kill the app the user is using so they will see the Desktop
[08:23] <findsndcard> !welcome | ravenkhan
[08:23] <Tiven> its a server, and i want it to not have any problems incase var or log gets full
[08:24] <Tiven> should i paste the error on pastebin ?
[08:24] <ravenkhan>  can anyone tell me how can i enable 3d effects in my laptop & i have ubuntu 9.1 with SIS card
[08:24] <llutz> Tiven: are the fstab-entries in the right order?
[08:24] <switch10_> Tiven: Yeah post the error.
[08:24] <Tiven> they need to be in order? didnt know that :S
[08:24] <shey> I just assumed being as I know they are on the desktop, I can send a visual message or something to Gnome, and have it displayed on the desktop.
[08:24] <Tiven> so /var goes after / ?
[08:24] <Tiven> ok switch10_ ill upload, sec
[08:25] <shey> Like a notice or something.
[08:25] <findsndcard> how do i find which /dev is my sound card (using pulse audio) in latest Ubuntu
[08:25] <llutz> findsndcard: hopefully youdl never have root-power on multiuser-systems
[08:25] <belus_> With what application can I play sid files?
[08:25] <ravenkhan>  can anyone tell me how can i enable 3d effects in my laptop & i have ubuntu 9.1 with SIS card
[08:25] <llutz> Tiven: sure, and /var/xxx after /var etc.pp.
[08:25] <Ryan1> shey: It looks like wall is for terminals only... you could try notify-send if you can set the display thing first... I'm not sure how to do that though
[08:26] <ravenkhan> hello !   can anyone tell me how can i enable 3d effects in my laptop & i have ubuntu 9.1 with SIS card
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  i dont think sis cards can do 3d - so they cant do the 3d effects
[08:26] <WebDawg> What do you mean by 3d effects ravenkhan ?
[08:26] <WebDawg> glxgears?
[08:26] <Tiven> switch10_ http://pastebin.com/EZtaPeFY
[08:26] <psycho_oreos> ravenkhan, I don't think you'll have much luck with getting SIS cards to do 3D, the support for them has been somewhat fairly minimal
[08:27] <ravenkhan> WebDawg : 3d i mean extra effects under appearance
[08:27] <findsndcard> anyone know how to locate the /dev for my sound card (/dev/dsp and /dev/snd are not them)
[08:27] <WebDawg> What?
[08:27] <Tiven> llutz great ill try it now, what about the options in the /var/log entry? i couldnt find these and left it on default
[08:27] <WebDawg> Go to the tab and enable them then.
[08:27] <Tiven> i mean on fstab <options> entry
[08:27] <ravenkhan> WebDawg : 3d i mean extra effects under appearance
[08:27] <llutz> Tiven: should be fine in most cases
[08:28] <WebDawg> ravenkhan, your impossible.
[08:28] <ravenkhan> WebDawg : i went there and tried but it said effects cant be enables
[08:28] <belus_> With what application can I play sid files?
[08:28] <ravenkhan> WebDawg : what are you trying to say by i am impossible?
[08:29] <shey> hrmm.
[08:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> I need to delete my swap, can I create a new swap later?
[08:29] <switch10_> Tiven: make sure they are being mounted a s read/write as well
[08:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> there can be 4 primary partitions on a disk right?
[08:29] <TyanColte> how do i automount a ntfs drive when i start my computer on karmic
[08:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> and a swap needs to be a primary?
[08:29] <Tiven> how can i do that switch10_ ?
[08:29] <llutz> ShazbotMcNasty: yes, yes, no
[08:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> llutz, swap can be logical?
[08:29] <psycho_oreos> ShazbotMcNasty, four primary but no extended, you can have 3 primary and one extended.
[08:29] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: what you saying to me by impossible?
[08:29] <llutz> ShazbotMcNasty: sure
[08:29] <switch10_> Tiven: are you using sudo mount -a?  or this is at start up?
[08:30] <TyanColte> at startup
[08:30] <jaymz> Sup fellas
[08:30] <shey> I find it hard there is no application that can do that, Especially since it would be an awesome thing to do being as I run 8 machines in my house, all linux, and most of the time they are all being used by SOMEONE at some point, would be funny to just display a message...
[08:30] <TyanColte> whoops, wrong person
[08:30] <WebDawg> ravenkhan, what are you talking about?  Stop repeating.
[08:30] <findsndcard> !welcome | jaymz
[08:30] <switch10_> Tiven: its in the man pages somewhere...  man mount
[08:30] <WebDawg> You want to enable effects when you know where to enable them and how to do it?
[08:30] <WebDawg> ravenkhan, be more specific.
[08:30] <psycho_oreos> TyanColte, I don't know of the GUI method, but you can always manually add entries into /etc/fstab
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  add a Proper fstab entry for the device.
[08:30] <switch10_> Tiven: mount -w
[08:30] <jaymz> alright thx ubottu
[08:30] <Tiven> its at startup like TyanColte said switch10_ , im trying again with finnix to change the order now
[08:30] <Dr_Willis>  example -> UUID=6A62B9CC1192CB2D/media/VistaBootntfs-3gdefaults,locale=en_US.UTF-800
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> grr.. i got tabs instead of spaces :)
[08:31] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: I know how to enable and where i can find the tabs Mr.WebDawg.
[08:31] <findsndcard> anyone know how to locate the /dev for my sound card (/dev/dsp and /dev/snd are not them)
[08:31] <WebDawg> Dude.
[08:31] <TyanColte> Dr_Willis: i have no idea how to do that
[08:31] <Dr_Willis>  example -> UUID=6A62B9CC1192CB2D   /media/VistaBoot  ntfs-3g   defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8  0  0
[08:31] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: but i am not understanding you what you trying to teach me
[08:31] <WebDawg> You just said.  How do I enable effects under 'appearance'
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  the ntfs-3g homepage has details.. and its just a text file.
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  or install/run the ntfs-config tool
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[08:32] <TyanColte> i've tried the ntfs-config tool
[08:32] <TyanColte> i already have read/write access
[08:32] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: I meant from that when i go there and click it said effects cant be enabled Did you get me now?
[08:32] <Ryan1> shey: env DISPLAY=:0 notify-send test
[08:32] <jaymz> Guys, i just installed itunes with wine. I was wondering if i can let the itunes read the music files from my windows partition?
[08:32] <WebDawg> ravenkhan, then when you ask a question you have to say that.
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  i think under 10.04 the tool now adds a entry to the fstavb if  yoyu run it. :) not sure if it did that on the old releases
[08:32] <WebDawg> What was the message.
[08:32] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: I earlier also specified tahat thing
[08:33] <WebDawg> Opps.
[08:33] <findsndcard> !itunes | jaymz
[08:33] <jaymz> But I already installed it with wine.
[08:34] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: could u please write against my name so that i can get to know you talking me or anybody else
[08:34] <WebDawg> Generally im as confusing as the person im talking to ravenkhan
[08:34] <Tiven> llutz switch10_ what about swap ? it goes before or after var ?
[08:34] <findsndcard> anyone know how to locate the /dev for my sound card (/dev/dsp and /dev/snd are not them)
[08:34] <llutz> Tiven: doesn't matter
[08:35] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: if you dont know answer then dont make my time waste with you
[08:35] <Tiven> ok
[08:35] <Ryan1> findsndcard: /dev/audio?
[08:35] <WebDawg> What is time but something to waste ravenkhan
[08:35] <xonxoubu> ey hola!
[08:35] <findsndcard> Ryan1: thanks, but audio is not listed in /dev
[08:36] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: for you maybe
[08:36] <findsndcard> !es | xonxoubu
[08:36] <WebDawg> See.  I win.
[08:36] <Ryan1> findsndcard: It is for me
[08:36] <xonxoubu> ostia! jajajaja
[08:36] <xonxoubu> ubottu, thanks
[08:36] <findsndcard> Ryan1: its not for me, are you using pulseaudio?
[08:36] <xonxoubu> ;)
[08:36] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: but i am not as free like you to make somebody elses time waste
[08:36] <dima-linux> somehow my ubuntu is freezing sometime....-.- i was just using firefox
[08:36] <Ryan1> findsndcard: No idea
[08:37] <WebDawg> ravenkhan, If I where you I would ask the question:  What do I have to get working to get the effects under the gnome appearance tab to enable?
[08:37] <xonxoubu> albertolempira, hi!
[08:37] <Tiven> switch10_ llutz i keep getting errors about 'mount point /var/lock does not exist '
[08:37] <dima-linux> then i can't even reboot
[08:38] <ravenkhan> WebDawg:  dont waste now my time do your work
[08:38] <IP-v6> hi guys! have somebody tried to play Counter-Strike  with wine 1.1.43?
[08:38] <switch10_> Tiven: pastebin /etc/fstab
[08:38] <WebDawg> What does ravenkhan  have to get working to get the effects under the gnome appearance tab to enable?
[08:38] <costre> IP-v6, No, but I have played WoW
[08:38] <linux_is_my_hero> IP-v6: I have not, but I am interested.  What happens when you try it?
[08:38] <ravenkhan> Can anybody please tell me how can i enable the effects under appearance tab
[08:39] <TyanColte> Dr_Willis: what do i need to put in fstab?
[08:39] <albertolempira> xonxoubu hey
[08:39] <IP-v6> screen flicker even compiz disabled
[08:39] <linux_is_my_hero> WebDawg: he needs to have the right proprietary drivers for his video card.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  a line similer to the one i pasted wuth the PROPER UUID entry
[08:39] <Dr_Willis>  example -> UUID=6A62B9CC1192CB2D   /media/VistaBoot  ntfs-3g   defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8  0  0
[08:39] <ravenkhan> IP-v6 : did it work counter strike?
[08:39] <WebDawg> That does not make sense?  Does he need GLX or DRI linux_is_my_hero ?
[08:39] <ravenkhan> I am using ubuntu 9.1
[08:39] <WebDawg> I mean I have the ATI linux generic and I can enable them.
[08:40] <IP-v6> raven_, it work with software render mod not in opengl or d3df
[08:40] <IP-v6> d3d*
[08:40] <TyanColte> if that's not the correct line then i don't know what to put that will be correct for my system
[08:40] <linux_is_my_hero> ravenkhan: go to system-->admin-->hardware drivers
[08:40] <IP-v6> ravenkhan,  it work with software render mod not in opengl or d3df
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !uuid | TyanColte
[08:40] <ravenkhan> linux_is_my_gero : ok
[08:40] <ravenkhan> now?
[08:41] <findsndcard> anyone know how to locate the /dev for my sound card (/dev/dsp and /dev/snd are not them)
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  you replace the UUID=XXXXXXX with the ones that  sudo blkid comman mentions
[08:41] <Tiven> switch10_ http://pastebin.com/i5Y4ZbGq
[08:41] <ravenkhan> linux_is_my_hero: now?
[08:41] <albertolempira> hey guys i'm trying to pair a Motorola S305 bluetooth headset with my notebook but i get a message saying "it doesn't support input service" and can't get it to work. Anybody know what could be happening? thanks in advance. I'm using kubuntu karmic, i don't if it matters.
[08:41] <linux_is_my_hero> ravenkhan: once you have the right ATI drivers, you should be able enable advance appearance effects...thats what i had to do to get mine to work.
[08:42] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: I am sorry for my behaviour
[08:42] <ravenkhan> linux_is_my_hero: dude there is no driver except MODEM
[08:43] <TyanColte> Dr_Willis: i assume where you have /media/VistaBoot is the mountpoint?
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  mounting basics.. yes.
[08:43] <ravenkhan> linux_is_my_hero: only software modem i have there
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> !mount | TyanColte
[08:43] <linux_is_my_hero> you mught try a ubuntu update first to make sure it has all the necessary files, then reopen the hardware drivers panel
[08:43] <TyanColte> Dr_Willis: i know how to mount manually, i just don't know how to automount
[08:44] <linux_is_my_hero> **i had to do that, if i didnt it never foudn my drivers...i rememebr that.
[08:44] <findsndcard> can someone help me please find my sound card in the /dev (my /dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/422092/ )?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  the syntax is virtuallyt the same.  just the order is a little differnet
[08:44] <ravenkhan> linux_is_my_hero: ubuntu update means 10.04?
[08:44] <Pumpkin> eh, Im shrinking a 400gb partition to 200gb using Gparted, about 15 minutes later nothing has happend as such. Is it meant to be this slow :/
[08:45] <findsndcard> Pumpkin: it took me a few hours
[08:45] <Nefariouz> Is there someone that can help me with a wireless problem?
[08:45] <llutz> Tiven: did you really set fs_passno to $       ?
[08:45] <ravenkhan> linux_is_my_hero: ubuntu update means 10.04 version?
[08:45] <linux_is_my_hero> no, its just that when i installed from my 9.10 livecd, it couldnt find the right drivers until i went on the internet and did a ubuntu update...not to 10.04 but just to update all the system packages and such...THEN it found the drivers and i enabled advanced visual effects.
[08:45] <Pumpkin> I will give it 5 hours, then just format if it doesn't work.
[08:45] <Tiven> llutz $ is there because terminal window doesnt have space
[08:45] <linux_is_my_hero> ;-)
[08:45] <findsndcard> Pumpkin: its better safe (takes it time) than sorry (corruption)
[08:46] <Tiven> llutz if i go with the arrows, the value is 0 or 1, its just not seen
[08:46] <llutz> Tiven: ah ok
[08:46] <Nefariouz> Can someone help me quickly with a wireless issu??
[08:46] <findsndcard> can someone help me please find my sound card in the /dev (my /dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/422092/ )?
[08:46] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: what issue are you having?
[08:46] <ravenkhan> i have everthing updated buddy
[08:47] <llutz> Tiven: does /lock exist on /dev/xvdf?
[08:47] <Pumpkin> findsndcard: Yeah I know, but I googled it and there are heaps of horror stories about nothing happining after 60 hours =/ besides I used clonezille to backup everything so it's not total loss if I stop it.
[08:47] <Nefariouz> Well on my 10.04 live cd, the hardware device manager detects my broadcom card, installs the driver and i can browse.
[08:47] <TyanColte> Dr_Willis: "UUID=6866C5F466C5C354 "/media/Windows 7 Drive" ntfs-3g" without the "" will that work?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  You dont want to use spaces in the mountpoint.
[08:47] <Nefariouz> My problem is that when I installed 10.04 and went to the hardware devices to install my wireless card, it doesn't show any
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  that wont work.
[08:47] <Tiven> yes llutz,
[08:47]  * LMP dropkicks windows 7
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  and you are using YOUR  UUID ## right? not mine?
[08:48]  * TyanColte dropkicks LMP
[08:48]  * LMP licks tyancolte
[08:48] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: in terminal, do a sudo iwconfig, and see if you have a wireless extension (card) detected by linux
[08:48] <Dr_Willis>  TyanColte  and you need the 0 0 at the end also
[08:48]  * TyanColte blushes
[08:48] <LMP> :D
[08:48] <Dr_Willis>  example -> UUID=6A62B9CC1192CB2D   /media/VistaBoot  ntfs-3g   defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8  0  0
[08:48]  * TyanColte laughs
[08:48] <Nefariouz> Can I privately chat you?
[08:48] <LMP> you can privately chat with me ;)
[08:48] <ravenkhan> WebDawg: can you help me dude?
[08:49] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: my irc client doesn't support private chats, sorry
[08:49] <WebDawg> What did they tell you to look for ravenkhan ?
[08:49]  * TyanColte wants to know if LMP is talking to him
[08:49] <ravenkhan> he told me to update
[08:49] <WebDawg> You need you sis model number
[08:49] <Nefariouz> Ah alright. Well it says no wireless extensions available. But I'm online right now on my live cd
[08:49] <WebDawg> Update the system or your vid drivers?
[08:49] <ravenkhan> yeah i have
[08:49] <ravenkhan> 771/671
[08:49] <LMP> findsndcard: sounds like your irc client is dated!
[08:49] <llutz> TyanColte: escape those spaces with "\040"
[08:49] <LMP> tyancolte: that offer is open to everyone!
[08:49] <ravenkhan> i have every package installed under my update manager
[08:49] <Nefariouz> ah wait nm eth1 is my wireless card
[08:49] <WebDawg> ravenkhan, do lspci and find your exact model vid car...pm it to me.
[08:49]  * TyanColte laughs
[08:50] <ravenkhan> i have done that already
[08:50] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: ok, what does sudo ifconfig show (a wlan0 or eth1/2)?
[08:50] <ravenkhan> ok
[08:50] <Nefariouz> eth1
[08:50] <cretsiah> how do i push ubuntu desktop through an openssh session?
[08:50] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: ok, this is good, is the wifi wep/wpa/none?
[08:50] <TyanColte> llutz: \040 is that a space code
[08:50] <llutz> TyanColte: yes, to be used for fstab-entreis
[08:50] <llutz> entries
[08:51] <TyanColte> llutz: thanks
[08:51] <Nefariouz> none
[08:51] <findsndcard> cretshiah: ssh user@destination -X
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> spaces in mount poinyts is a pain in the backside.. why are you even bothering TyanColte  you can set it to be Windows_7 just as easially
[08:51] <TyanColte> so Windows\040\7\040\Drive
[08:51] <findsndcard> can someone help me please find my sound card in the /dev (my /dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/422092/ )?
[08:51] <TyanColte> Dr_Willis: looks gauty
[08:51] <llutz> Tiven: try to identify the process writing to /var/lock before all the mounts are done.
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> spaces look silly and can goof up things worse TyanColte
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> expecially from the terminal
[08:52] <Tiven> what do you mean llutz ?
[08:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> I really want "universal typeface"
[08:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> I can't findit though :<
[08:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> or anything comparible
[08:52] <Nefariouz> I think the problem is that the hardware devices can't get the list of devices without being online first even though 9.04 could.
[08:53] <llutz> Tiven: the error you get, means that some process tries to write to /var/lock which isnt mounted at that moment.
[08:53] <TyanColte> restarting to test this out
[08:53] <cretsiah> findsndcard:  sory i should probably have been more specific i want to push ubuntu desktop through openssh session so i can view it on my winxp box
[08:53] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: it should still detect them if they are both using the same kernel version the same; you can try sudo iwconfig eth1 list to scan for wireless networks and sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "WifiNetwork" && sudo dhclient eth1 to connect and grab an ip
[08:54] <Ryan1> cretsiah: You can use VNCviewer for WIndows to connect to an Ubuntu machine and control its desktop
[08:54] <findsndcard> cretsiah: the whole session or just a program, like firefox?
[08:54] <cretsiah> the whole desktop
[08:54] <Ryan1> cretsiah: You need to enable it first in Preferences > Remote Desktop
[08:54] <llutz> Tiven: forget it, i'm wrong.
[08:54] <Tiven> hmmm
[08:54] <Tiven> ;/
[08:55] <Tiven> any other ideas guys?
[08:55] <Nefariouz> alright. the 'sudo iwconfig eth1 list' failed to show a list though
[08:55] <jbrouhard>  Do this
[08:55] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: im sorry, its late here, i meant sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[08:56] <jbrouhard> yeah
[08:56] <jbrouhard> that
[08:56] <Nefariouz> ah thanks
[08:56] <jbrouhard> iwlist ethx scanning
[08:56] <jbrouhard> x being which eth interface
[08:56] <jbrouhard> sudo iwlist eth1 scanning
[08:56] <jbrouhard> worked for me
[08:56] <Nefariouz> appreciate it, hopefully I won't have to come back ;D
[08:56] <kyxzme> which will be the point on memory leaks in 1.7?
[08:56] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: the more you come back the more you learn
[08:57] <findsndcard> can someone help me please find my sound card in the /dev (my /dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/422092/ )?
[08:57] <TyanColte> do you have to have a special package to add splashimage to grub2?
[08:57] <Nefariouz> findsndcard: this is true. Any luck with your sound card?
[08:58] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: its not a big problem, but i would like to use more programs, but /dev/dsp and /dev/snd aren't working with any audio apps
[08:58] <Nefariouz> findsndcard: Ah I see. well good luck!
[08:58] <findsndcard> Nefariouz: in addition, pulse audio takes over the sound control, so a few apps will work, like audacity, thanks
[08:58] <brmooda> Hi
[08:59] <findsndcard> !welcome | brmooda
[08:59] <Name141> is it possible to change where your updates come from? (the repos)
[08:59] <findsndcard> Name141: sure, its in System -> Administration -> Synaptic -> Tools -> Repos
[09:00] <Name141> findsndcard: that's the easiest way is with the GUI?
[09:00] <findsndcard> Name141: ok, you could sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, ctrl+alt+F2, sign-in, w3m google.com ...
[09:01] <Name141> ehh
[09:01] <Name141> I'll just turn the monitor on
[09:01] <Name141> and login then
[09:01] <findsndcard> Name141: logging in is a good idea before doing anything on your system
[09:03] <Name141> findsndcard: I was logged in over ssh
[09:04] <findsndcard> Name141: oh, then through a new ssh, but you need to sudo apt-get update after you change the sources.list
[09:04] <findsndcard> !repository | Name141
[09:04] <pk__> can someone help me with this?  http://fpaste.org/5Xs6/
[09:04] <Name141> findsndcard: eh I was logged in to XFCE instead of Gnome.
[09:04] <pk__> this works but the sound stutters a lot    arecord -f S16_LE -r48000 -c2 -D hw:1,0 -F0 --period-size=1024 -B0 --buffer-size=4096 | aplay -D hw:0,0
[09:05] <findsndcard> Name141: sudo synaptic in terminal should pull it up
[09:05] <Name141> findsndcard: settings -> repos?
[09:05] <findsndcard> Name141: assuming you have the -X (GUI) flag set with your SSH session
[09:05] <findsndcard> Name141: yeah, its under Tools -> repos or Settings -> repos
[09:06] <Name141> findsndcard: I just clicked "select best server"
[09:06] <Name141> findsndcard: I assume that'll be ok?
[09:06] <findsndcard> Name141: i usually do that as well, it pings them all to find the best one
[09:06] <Name141> my current one was getting updates at 8 KB/sec
[09:07] <findsndcard> Name141: yeah, this should fix that problem
[09:07] <findsndcard> Name141: there is also an experiemental package that does updates through bittorrent
[09:07] <Name141> findsndcard: nothing suitable was found, maybe it's due to the high sat ping?
[09:08] <Name141> er latency
[09:08] <findsndcard> Name141: you might want to check out apt-p2p which does the updates through bittorrent, assuming your isp doesn't throttle speeds
[09:08] <findsndcard> Name141: or you could pick a repo nearest to you
[09:08] <Name141> findsndcard: i can't use eMule/bitorrent with my HN7000S
[09:09] <Name141> it cuts off 'web acceloration'
[09:09] <Name141> (spelling)
[09:09] <owerq> siema jest tu ktos
[09:10] <findsndcard> !fr | owerq
[09:10] <Name141> tezcatl.fciencias.unam.mx seems to be going a lot faster findsndcard
[09:11] <findsndcard> Name141: you might want to choose an ipv6 if you have that and have high latency; it handles handoffs better
[09:12] <k0ala> where is the default webserver (lamp stack) for ubuntu located?
[09:12] <hunahpu> k0ala: open synaptic, go to edit - by task and search LAMP
[09:12] <k0ala> i am trying to setup  xampp but there is already a webserver daemon running
[09:12] <berkay_72> are there servers which are blocked some of open-source torrent softwares ? ı dont know why but i can not download with torrnet downloaders on Linux as fast as uTorrent on Windows (even with Wine uTorrnet is faster).
[09:12] <TyanColte> is there a command to remove unnecessary options from grub2?
[09:12] <francesca> cado dalle nubi
[09:12] <findsndcard> k0ala: or command line apt-cache search lamp web server
[09:12] <llutz> !lamp > k0ala
[09:12] <Name141> I'm figuring all the servers are synced together for update/upgrades findsndcard ?
[09:13] <findsndcard> !fr | francesca
[09:13] <hunahpu> k0ala: oh if you already have apache running you can stop it with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop"
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  grub2 basics -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> TyanColte:  also see -> http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do
[09:13] <k0ala> hunahpu,  i tried that i havent setup any webserver before
[09:13] <k0ala> i googled already
[09:13] <findsndcard> Name141: yes, but some a few hours after others
[09:14] <k0ala> it seems there is some webserver running in the background
[09:14] <hunahpu> TyanColte: you need to remove the kernels you no longer use, open Synaptic and search for "2.6.3"
[09:14] <k0ala> but there is o process for that
[09:14] <llutz> k0ala: sudo lsof -i :80
[09:14] <red-red|wine> hello how to configure dns ?
[09:14] <findsndcard> !dns | red-red|wine
[09:15] <bizkit__> hilight_nick_matches = ON
[09:15] <findsndcard> !dns
[09:15] <red-red|wine> kekekeke
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> what part of DNS you mean red-red|wine
[09:15] <k0ala> llutz, what next and what does that command list?
[09:15] <llutz> k0ala: any output?
[09:15] <red-red|wine> i want a dns congiguration in my pc
[09:15] <k0ala> llutz, yes many lines
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> red-red|wine:  you mean you want to run a DNS server?
[09:16] <hunahpu> red-red|wine: what part of DNS?
[09:16] <red-red|wine> yes dns server Mr.Willis
[09:16] <llutz> k0ala: sudo lsof -i :80 |grep Listen
[09:16] <TyanColte> hunahpu: what am i supposed to find by typing that in
[09:16] <Jaymac> my wireless has been dropping out and been a bit slow recently - i think there might be a new network in my area on the same channel - any simple utilities to let me know the channels of the various wireless networks in my area?
[09:17] <k0ala> llutz, no lines
[09:17] <findsndcard> Jaymac: in terminal: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[09:17] <red-red|wine> i am doing my RHCe certification
[09:17] <hunahpu> TyanColte: the kernels that are installed in your system, remove the ones you no longer use/want in your list; I recommend leaving an old one besides the one you're using
[09:17] <llutz> k0ala: so no webserver listens at port 80
[09:17] <red-red|wine> plz give me good tutorial for it
[09:17] <findsndcard> Jaymac: in terminal: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan >> /home/user/dump_into_file.txt
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> red-red|wine:   Theres entire books written on running DNS servers..    so i suggest checking google for various guides.
[09:17] <nsadmin> good tutorial for what now?
[09:18] <hunahpu> k0ala: what have you installed so far?
[09:18] <TyanColte> i don't want to remove the kernel completely i just want to remove the entry from grub
[09:18] <nsadmin> redhat?
[09:18] <red-red|wine> to learn dns
[09:18] <k0ala> looks like the webserver stopped now
[09:18] <nsadmin> get DNS and BIND
[09:18] <k0ala> cant see the locahost page now
[09:18] <findsndcard> can someone help me please find my sound card in the /dev (my /dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/422092/ )?
[09:18] <nsadmin> very definitive
[09:18] <AgentHeX> Hi, all.  I'm trying to configure SVN on my Ubuntu Server box.  I've installed SVN and libapache2-svn, and I've configured /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf and restarted apache2, but when I try to checkout the project, it tells me PROPFIND request failed.  I've followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion to the letter, but something just isn't right.  Help!
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> nsadmin:  thats the book i got. :) an old old version.. but  it was only $5
[09:18] <llutz> rhce without knowing how to research the web? sounds like msce
[09:18] <k0ala> installing xampp now thanks
[09:19] <hunahpu> findsndcard: lspci should work better
[09:19] <llutz> !lamp > k0ala don't install xampp
[09:19] <red-red|wine> i am in that where ppl doesn't know about linux :(
[09:19] <nsadmin> you got a long way to go, I'd say
[09:19] <findsndcard> huhahpu: tried that, it didn't tell me the /dev it mapped to
[09:19] <Jaymac> findsndcard, thanks :)
[09:19] <findsndcard> Jaymac, no problem
[09:19] <red-red|wine> i am doing my rhce from lucknow
[09:19] <k0ala> llutz, whjy ot?
[09:19] <nsadmin> see, dns was developed on unix/unixalike
[09:19] <k0ala> llutz, why not xampp
[09:19] <nsadmin> if the people don't know that, maybe you're taking the wrong class?
[09:19] <llutz> k0ala: because there are native debs for that which integrate more porperly into the system
[09:20] <Jaymac> findsndcard, although that only gave me info for four networks and network manager sees 12
[09:20] <k0ala> llutz, security?
[09:20] <jayc> hi, all, I write a partition in /etc/fstab that label "data" but when I open nautilus, it present two "data" partitons, how to let nautilus know that I've mounted it in /etc/fstab ?
[09:20] <findsndcard> Jaymac, run it several times with the wifi card in different positions; they will add and subtract values
[09:20] <nsadmin> what's rhce stand for anyway?
[09:20] <cast> AgentHeX: eh, any reason for using an outdated RCS?
[09:20] <llutz> k0ala: better to support, getting security updates etc
[09:20] <red-red|wine> i want to be a system administrator that why i am learning linux
[09:20] <AgentHeX> cast: RCS?
[09:21] <AgentHeX> oh...
[09:21] <llutz> nsadmin: redhat certified engineer
[09:21] <AgentHeX> cast: only that i'm familiar with it.  what would you recommend?
[09:21] <Jaymac> findsndcard, ok will do
[09:21] <nsadmin> you're claiming they don't know linux??
[09:21] <k0ala> llutz, where is the location of those files . i mean where is the document root in this case
[09:21] <AgentHeX> cast: and i intend to use Windows boxen as well.
[09:21] <ubuntunewbie> hi , I need help on converting or extracting a .f4v file to mp3
[09:21] <llutz> k0ala: /var/www
[09:21] <findsndcard> linux engineer? do they create or manage, maybe linux manager?
[09:21] <nsadmin> never mind... this is not a debian support question
[09:21] <red-red|wine> dns is getting hard for me :(
[09:21] <k0ala> llutz, this linux file system makes me mad all the time i never rememerb where is what file
[09:21] <cast> AgentHeX: git or mericial, mercurial being the easier to use and more multiplatform one
[09:22] <red-red|wine> any video tutorial
[09:22] <red-red|wine> :D
[09:22] <llutz> !fhs > k0ala
[09:22] <cast> AgentHeX: it'll make the web server part rather trivial, as mercurial has a webserver built in, you just have to type 'hg serve' :)
[09:22] <k0ala> :_)
[09:22] <anubhav> hi
[09:22] <bizkit__> exit
[09:22] <findsndcard> !welcome | anubhav
[09:22] <findsndcard> can someone help me please find my sound card in the /dev (my /dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/422092/ )?
[09:22] <red-red|wine> kekekekeke
[09:23] <anubhav> KDE fails to launch VLC plz help
[09:23] <red-red|wine> anubhav reinstall it again
[09:23] <findsndcard> anubhav: go to vlc's website and input their repository into your ubuntu
[09:23] <k0ala> thank you all for the time
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> anubhav:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages
[09:24] <AgentHeX> cast: i was just going to use tortoisesvn on the windows machines.  it's what i'm familiar with.
[09:25] <cast> AgentHeX: tortousehg exists, too :)
[09:25] <ubuntunewbie> hi , I need help on converting or extracting a .f4v file to mp3 ? .The code is http://pastebin.com/DJW2mDrg
[09:25] <hunahpu> findsndcard: I find my sound card at /proc/asound/, not in /dev/ but I may be wrong so I suppose it is /dev/snd
[09:25] <anubhav> KDEInit could not launch vlc...help plz
[09:25] <AgentHeX> cast: i'm apt-get'ing mercurial now.  is there a good UI (preferably nautilus integration) for ubuntu?
[09:26] <totempole> hunahpu: none of the programs allowed input of that /dev/snd, or /dev/dsp
[09:26] <cast> AgentHeX: but each to their own. i find svn's slowness and the major pain of branching/merging to be quite annoying
[09:26] <cast> AgentHeX: i believe there is, but i never use it
[09:26] <AgentHeX> cast: fair enough.  do you use the cli for checking out projects?
[09:26] <anubhav> KDEInit could not launch vlc...help plz
[09:26] <cast> sure do
[09:26] <anubhav> KDEInit could not launch vlc...help plz
[09:26] <anubhav> KDEInit could not launch vlc...help plz
[09:26] <FloodBot1> anubhav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <totempole> hunahpu: i see oss in /proc, maybe that would work
[09:27] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: try SoundConverter 1.4.4
[09:27] <AgentHeX> <3 u floodbot :-D
[09:27] <hunahpu> totempole: I think so too, findsndcard is the one who was asking
[09:28] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : forgot to mention I am using ubuntu 8.04  hardy
[09:28] <totempole> hunahpu: i changed my nick to this; i get this error ioctl: SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[09:28] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : only version 1.0.1
[09:28] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: that's ok, that will work too
[09:29] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : it doesn;'t work
[09:29] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : I tried , even convert with ffmpeg , it doesn't extract the sound out
[09:29] <|Quartz|> Hello. How install the packages of ruby and its dependancies of 9.10 on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:30] <AgentHeX> cast: oops.  i ran hg add in my user directory.  how can i remove them from the repo without deleting the files?
[09:30] <cast> |Quartz|: you don't want to do that.
[09:30] <hunahpu> totempole: oh I see, I didn't notice when you changed it; I'm pretty sure a sound card doesn't get listed under /dev/ but in /proc/; in my case /proc/asound/card0 and there are all the ports of my soundcard (an audigy2)
[09:30] <llutz> !lucid | |Quartz|:
[09:30] <|Quartz|> Yes I want sir
[09:30] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: not sure what to tell you then
[09:30] <AgentHeX> cast: can i just re-run hg init?
[09:30] <knittl> hi. i plan tu update my system to 64 bit with the next release
[09:30] <nsadmin> Lucid Lutz?
[09:30] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife :from ffmpeg -i   Duration: 00:05:00.0, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 172 kb/s  Stream #0.0(und): Audio: mp4a / 0x6134706D, 22050 Hz, stereo  Stream #0.1(und): Video: h264, yuv420p, 400x608, 15.00 fps(r)
[09:31] <knittl> do i have to do a clean install? any side effects to config files or userspace files probably?
[09:31] <llutz> knittl: you cannot update a 32bit to 64bit system
[09:31] <totempole> huhahpu: no, i get the same error when pointing the soundcard to /proc/asound/card0
[09:31] <hunahpu> knittl: if you currently have 32-bit installed and want to install 64-bit, yes a clean install is necessary; if you have your /home on a separate partition, most of your configs will remain intact.
[09:31] <cast> AgentHeX: dunno, what does hg remove file dir do?
[09:31] <nsadmin> you would have to do a complete reinstall
[09:32] <knittl> hunahpu: yes, /home is separate
[09:32] <AgentHeX> cast: i was waiting for you to tell me if that was safe to do.
[09:32] <totempole> huhahpu: i guess this will remain a mystery unless there is a program that tells the user what their sound card device is (or where it is rather)
[09:32] <cast> AgentHeX: ahh, hmm, hg revert might do something
[09:32] <knittl> clean install is not really a problem. i just want to make sure that any files will work after that
[09:32] <hunahpu> knittl: most of your personal configurations will be kept, including your e-mails
[09:32] <cast> AgentHeX: i'd do the revert
[09:32] <nsadmin> having said that, I did an upgrade from libc4 to libc5 (which was a.our format to elf format)
[09:32] <cast> AgentHeX: i keep backups, though :)
[09:32] <knittl> i.e. some binary files depending on pointer size and alignment
[09:32] <nsadmin> way wayyy long time ago
[09:32] <AgentHeX> cast: sweet.  worked.
[09:33] <AgentHeX> cast: says "forgetting <filename" a bunch of times.
[09:33] <cast> nice
[09:33] <BobSapp> !lucid
[09:33] <cast> there's hg forget, too, mmm
[09:33] <nsadmin> bottom line, it should be possible, but it was never considered necessary or worth the work
[09:33] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: thought about upgrading?
[09:34] <knittl> what if the xserver memleak cannot be fixed till 30th? ubuntu 10.05? :D
[09:34] <AgentHeX> cast: so it said forgetting but never forgot.  i just ran hg init again, and all is well.
[09:34] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : maybe lucid but i dont know how to back up all of the application installed
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> knittl:  according to the news sites.. its been fixed.
[09:34] <llutz> knittl: nope, broken 10.04 with xxx fixes in future
[09:34] <knittl> Dr_Willis: oh … i only read about it right now
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> knittl:  you need the rssfeeds->bellybutton attatchment. :)
[09:35] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: backup? they would be upgraded also where a upgrade is avail
[09:35] <SirRedTooth> Does anybody here have avg free?
[09:35] <SirRedTooth> I installed it but cant find the launcher fo rit
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/xorg-memory-leak-bug-in-ubuntu-1004-fix.html
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> SirRedTooth:  try the command line? avg<tab> perhaps?
[09:35] <hunahpu> SirRedTooth: looking for ##windows perhaps :p
[09:35] <SirRedTooth> I installed the linux version
[09:36] <nsadmin> what's avg
[09:36] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : I asked before here , most of them told me upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 will have tons of error
[09:36] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: not sure you want to go to lucid yet
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> AVG Anti Virus. they got a free linux version
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> and a live cd I recall
[09:36] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : only solution is cleaninstall
[09:36] <llutz> SirRedTooth: dpkg -L packagename
[09:36] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: upgrade to karmic?
[09:37] <hunahpu> SirRedTooth: in your terminal: "whereis avg<TAB>"
[09:37] <SirRedTooth> Is there some technical reason why there is no launcher or is it just like that?
[09:37] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : what's the different between karmic and lucid ?
[09:37] <AgentHeX> cast: so the tutorial i'm reading says to use cgi scripts as the web interface for mercurial.  is there a better way?  i have no idea what i'm doing now.
[09:37] <hunahpu> SirRedTooth: depends on how you installed it, if you installed it via software centre or synaptic it should be listed under Apps menu
[09:37] <pha11ic> something broken in ubuntu that isnt brokenin debian, am I in the right channel?
[09:38] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: karmic is stable, lucid is not, yet anyway
[09:38] <AgentHeX> cast: there are example docs in /usr/share/doc/mercurial/examples/ but i'm not sure what to copy where.
[09:38] <cast> AgentHeX: just start hg serve in the directory
[09:38] <hunahpu> pha11ic: what do you mean?
[09:38] <cast> AgentHeX: check hg help serve and see the port option, too
[09:38] <pha11ic> It appears to be video related...
[09:39] <pha11ic> had problem with XConfig some months back got a default config in place, seemed to work...
[09:39] <pha11ic> the other day it rolled a buttload of updates and now display goes blank and nothing happens...
[09:39] <SirRedTooth> Still cant find the launcher?
[09:39] <SirRedTooth> Can anybody just tell me where their launcher is?
[09:40] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : I though it going to release next week
[09:40] <pha11ic> ubuntu9.04 and xubuntu9.04 freezes, as does MINT v8.
[09:40] <pha11ic> CentOS works okay, as does Deb 5.04
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> SirRedTooth:  it could be the mens havent refreshed.. log out/back in and look in the menus again
[09:40] <hunahpu> SirRedTooth: an anti-virus in Ubuntu is not useful so most of us don't use it, so I can't tell you where it installed; I suppose is under /usr/bin as most programs are
[09:40] <llutz> ubuntunewbie: release dates won't tell you anything about stability
[09:41] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: perhaps, but if I was going to upgrade I would do it to karmic, if I was problem free I would continue to lucid, that's just my opinion
[09:41] <SirRedTooth> I should contact avg and ask them to put the launcher somewhere we can see it...
[09:41] <jayc> hi, all, I write a partition labeled "data" in /etc/fstab to auto mount on boot, but when I open autilus, it present two "data" entries on sidebar. How do I let nautilus know that I've mounted "data" on /etc/fstab?
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> SirRedTooth:  according to the package manager the binaries are in /opt/avg/bin/XXXXX
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> SirRedTooth:  they may ask you to read the docs..
[09:42] <AgentHeX> cast: alright, so if i want to restrict mercurial to authenticated users (and specifically over https), how do i do that?
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> SirRedTooth:  im not even sure it has an actual 'gui'
[09:42] <cast> AgentHeX: check the mercurial docs for the hgrc file, i think
[09:43] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife , llutz : so it's not stable as it be ? I though it LTS which is 100% stable for user ?
[09:44] <llutz> ubuntunewbie: not  yet, maybe next week (i doubt that)
[09:44] <overmind> ubuntunewbie: I am using Lucid right now I haven't got any problem, but if you aren't very sure about what to do, wait a week
[09:44] <chris_> I have a problem with keyboard layouts: I use the US and German layouts, but I want the US one to be the default. However, I can't set it to default in the "Keyboard preferences" (no checkbox for that) and after some time it randomly switches back to german. I'm on 10.04 by the way
[09:45] <geekphreak> hello all
[09:45] <hunahpu> ubuntunewbie: there is no such thing as (guaranteed) 100% stable software
[09:45] <mopperwhite> Ubuntu 10.04 bate
[09:45] <llutz> #buntu+1 chris_
[09:45] <overmind> mopperwhite: Now is RC (Release Candidate)
[09:45] <llutz> #ubuntu+1 chris_
[09:45] <AgentHeX> cast: when i commit, it pops nano up with some temporary file.  when i quit nano, it says rollback completed.  wtf?
[09:46] <cast> did you save and quit?
[09:46] <ubuntunewbie> yeh , I know that , will wait for it to be stable.
[09:46] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: I upgraded to lucid about the time it came out, there were issues, there may be more issues, I deal with them, you may want to do the same, but, if you want to upgrade to a solid version then karmic makes sense, otherwise do as you please, worse case scenario??? a re-install
[09:46] <chris_> @llutz: ok, sorry
[09:46] <AgentHeX> the temp file?  no and yes (in that order).  doesn't make a diff.
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> SirRedTooth:  docs/pdf maual for avg for linux --> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.avg.com%2Ffiledir%2Fdoc%2FLINUX_GROUP%2FAVG_Anti-Virus_for_Linux%2Favg_avl_uma_en_85_2.pdf&ei=AQHUS_r1L8WclgeK8vnsDA&usg=AFQjCNE2VO-hd4ueu7LCkQTaHRHWyzvQ_A&sig2=9LG8fRImMI1P6z2zNWL1oQ
[09:47] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : does a converting stuff work if karmic or lucid is install on a VM ?
[09:47] <strings_> I have an advanced question. Does anyone know how to remove all packages that a meta package installs? or better yet how to remove all packages but ones from the ubuntu-minimal package.
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> strings_:  thats not very easially done.. sadly.
[09:47] <AgentHeX> cast: file is /tmp/hg-editor-Onzrby.txt where should i save it?
[09:48] <cast> just to its default place
[09:48] <cast> save, quit
[09:48] <hunahpu> strings_: fresh minimal-install
[09:48] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: it should, I run win7 in vm and have ran ubuntu in vm without any issues
[09:48] <AgentHeX> cast: transaction abort! rollback completed.  wtf?
[09:48] <AgentHeX> cast: says No username found, using 'user@domain.com' instead.
[09:49] <AgentHeX> cast: i have a .hgrc file.  what do i need to do?
[09:49] <nameless> hi to all
[09:49] <strings_> hunahpu: that was not my question.
[09:49] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : taking about vm , you are using virtualbox ? I installed window xp into Vbox but it get very slow while loading files and opening programs.How about yours ?
[09:50] <cast> AgentHeX: maybe the manual is order..
[09:50] <cast> is in order*
[09:50] <AgentHeX> *sigh*
[09:50] <nameless> i have a problem with my sis graphics card driver i just want to have the resolution i need pls help me.
[09:50] <nameless> i have a problem with my sis graphics card driver i just want to have the resolution i need pls help me.
[09:51] <nameless> hi to all
[09:51] <nameless> i have a problem with my sis graphics card driver i just want to have the resolution i need pls help me.
[09:51] <llutz> !repeat| nameless
[09:51] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: I use virtualbox(ose) and true, the vm is slightly slower, not much, did you give it enough virtual ram?
[09:51] <nameless> ok thx
[09:51] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : yep 768mb , but install at a same hard disk.
[09:52] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : maybe I am having a slow processor.What CPU of yours ?
[09:52] <rajmahendra> i have installed both kubuntu and ubuntu i like to remove kde what is the command
[09:52] <GSF1200S> anyone find the rhythmbox systray applet extremely annoying in 10.04? Why did they change it, and is there any way to revert?
[09:52] <Name141> how do I install the items that are left back after sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[09:52] <llutz> !puregnome | rajmahendra
[09:53] <rajmahendra> i like to remove only KED
[09:53] <rajmahendra> KDE
[09:53] <red2kic> rajmahendra: Follow llutz's advice
[09:53] <rajmahendra> i like ubuntu i want to remove only kubuntu.
[09:53] <nameless> i have a problem with my sis graphics card driver i just want to have the resolution i need pls help me.
[09:53] <sangho> gksr
[09:53] <nameless> T_T
[09:54] <red2kic> rajmahendra: Also, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[09:54] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: virtualbox runni in dynamic will also seem slow because it creates disk as it goes
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> nameless:  given that i found  a forum thread with like 40+ pages of posts on sis video. Its not going to be a magical 1 command fix.
[09:55] <Mathuin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/predict -- I can't find this package with the Synaptic package manager, but it's listed here.  I'm afraid I don't understand the clever little names like lucid and karmic but I do know I'm running karmic and the package is under lucid.  Does that mean I can't run it?
[09:55] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : oh , what processor you are using ? I am using AMD.Is it because Vbox favor more on Intel processor than AMD ?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  there might be PPA repos of the program for karmic. or you could upgrade to Lucid.
[09:56] <Mathuin> So lucid is 10.04?  I can probably wait until its official release.
[09:56] <AgentHeX> cast: crap.  there's just no useful step-by-step.  it keeps aborting.
[09:56] <nameless> i have a problem with my sis graphics card driver i just want to have the resolution i need pls help me.
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  yep. Or upgrade to it now and try it out.  then upgrade to the final when it comes out
[09:57] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: not sure about vbox favoring, I have a laptop with amd and it works about the same as far as I can tell
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> nameless:  i have no magical answers for you no matter how much you say please. SIS video is VERY problematic.
[09:57] <Mathuin> Dr_Willis: I'll wait. The need isn't pressing enough to risk screwing up other stuff. :-)
[09:57] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : I am just using 2 cores amd 2.0ghz
[09:58] <justinubuntu> who knows how to install realplayer 11 for 9.10 amd64?
[09:58] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: sounds like mine presently
[09:58] <pac0> hello all people, good morning, i just update to 10.04 and got one ati Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, its recommended to install  the privative driver?
[09:58] <nameless> yes i see ok thx
[09:58] <llutz> ask at #ubuntu+1 pac0
[09:58] <pac0> lol
[09:59] <pac0> ok, thank you
[09:59] <pac0> its a new channel?
[09:59] <hunahpu> pac0: Yes, generally it is a good idea
[09:59] <llutz> no
[09:59] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : ? what processor you are using ?
[09:59] <almoxarife> centrino
[09:59] <hunahpu> pac0: ubuntu+1 is a channel for Lucid questions, since it is not released yet (the final version) it is not supported yet
[10:01] <carandraug> anyone knows how I can move the embedded terminal in gedit to the side panel instead of the bottom?
[10:01] <almoxarife> ubuntunewbie: I try to keep each vm with at least 1.2 gig of ram, max out the vid ram, and remove any options you don't really need
[10:02] <naxa> hi! I'm getting this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/atk1.0/+bug/547244?comments=all error with libatk1.0-dev_1.30.0
[10:02] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : just have 2gb ram , that's all I have
[10:03] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : still not knowing what processor you are using
[10:05] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : I think I solve the problem for my f4v to mp3 . dump the .aac out from f4v and convert to .wav then to using the soundconverter to mp3.Though it takes quite a lot of step but it work ;-)
[10:09] <ubuntunewbie> almoxarife : anyway gtg thanks for the help guys ;-)
[10:13] <ShazbotMcNasty> how to run a program, and have the output put in a text file?
[10:13] <ShazbotMcNasty> such as 'sudo lshw'
[10:13] <ShazbotMcNasty> :o
[10:13] <llutz> ShazbotMcNasty: cmd &> file
[10:13] <mithradir> good moring guys i'm in need of your help please anyone knows a programm like Wine because i want to try electronics workbench(windows app) and with Wine i can't
[10:14] <llutz> ShazbotMcNasty: cmd > file                if you don't want errors
[10:14] <miansc> hey guys im getting this error apon grub bootup when selecting windows: Error 13: invalid or unexecutable format
[10:14] <mrp> i when i connect o a vpn it uses the default gateway but i don't want to use it as my dewfault internet gateway hor do i fix that?
[10:14] <miansc> anyone know what this means
[10:15] <syli725> !best
[10:17] <llutz> mithradir: use windows, real or inside a vm
[10:18] <miands> sup guys
[10:18] <zee> sip
[10:18] <zee> sup*
[10:18] <miands> zee can u help with a grub problem
[10:19] <zee> im not an expert on grub but whats ur problem
[10:19] <Lazy^> ela
[10:19] <Lazy^> Ask the question =)
[10:19] <miands> ok, im getting this error error 13: invalid or unexectuable
[10:20] <zee> when are u getting this error?
[10:20] <zee> booting?
[10:20] <Lazy^> after grub-menu ?
[10:20] <miands> yer
[10:20] <andy_> andy
[10:20] <starplex> hi, i am in need of a little help
[10:21] <zee> whats up starplex
[10:21] <starplex> i have a daemon running on port 80 which I did not install and cant find whats the daemons name
[10:21] <starplex> tried several commands and the PID is empty
[10:21] <llutz> starplex: lsof -i :80|grep Listen
[10:21] <starplex> its empty
[10:21] <starplex> well no answer comes back
[10:21] <zee> thats wierd
[10:22] <llutz> starplex: netstat -tulpen|grep :22
[10:22] <llutz> starplex: netstat -tulpen|grep :80 sry
[10:22] <starplex> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          5114        -
[10:23] <llutz> starplex: and 5114 is what?
[10:23] <starplex> i dont have such a process
[10:24] <ubuale> bubuyoghi
[10:24] <ubuale> !list
[10:24] <starplex> i have till 1871 and than it jumps to 7000 and 8000
[10:24] <llutz> starplex: ps -ef
[10:25] <llutz> starplex: ps -p 5114
[10:25] <starplex> ps -p 5114
[10:25] <starplex>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[10:25] <starplex> :D
[10:25] <FloodBot1> starplex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:25] <starplex> nothing on the ps -ef list also
[10:26] <AgentHeX> cast: oh no fscking wonder.  apt-get installed mercurial version 0.9.5
[10:26] <pvc> if I want to manually install a driver, what's the folder?
[10:27] <cast> hahaha...
[10:27] <pvc> and what's the terminal command to load it?
[10:27] <zee> i think u have to write a kernel module and use the command insmod to insert it
[10:27] <starplex> i found the issue, apparently apache2 -k start was running
[10:28] <pvc> hm
[10:28] <Traveler> whats most stable version o linux
[10:28] <starplex> weird, never installed it
[10:28] <Traveler> of ubuntu even
[10:28] <zee> starplex correct me if im wrong about the module thing
[10:28] <llutz> starplex: aptitude why apache2
[10:28] <pvc> Traveler, I don't know.. eh.. gentoo?
[10:28] <pvc> lol
[10:28] <zee> hahaha
[10:28] <jaymz> sup fellas
[10:28] <llutz> Traveler: look at kernel.org
[10:29] <pvc> I'm going out of my way just to update some wireless drivers.. I'm just going to connect to the hardline
[10:29] <zee> yeah thats easier
[10:29] <starplex> http://pastebin.com/S9wcN53m
[10:29] <jaymz> Guys, how can i look at my windows files? I'm running xubuntu 9.10
[10:30] <brianherman_home> jaymz: ntfs3g
[10:30] <brianherman_home> jaymz: apt-get install ntfs3g
[10:30] <brianherman_home> jaymz: uh that should be installed but try this apt-get install restricted-extras
[10:31] <WXZ> I installed ubuntu just now
[10:32] <llutz> starplex: theres your answer
[10:32] <WXZ> ran update manager, restarded and now it won't connect to my wired connection
[10:32] <AgentHeX> cast: dude, mercurial is at 1.5.1.  why in the hell is apt-get showing such an old version?
[10:32] <Traveler> whats mercurial?
[10:32] <AgentHeX> Traveler: revision control system.  like svn.
[10:33] <brianherman_home> Traveler, it is a python based source code management software used by Ubuntu.
[10:33] <starplex> llutz: i suppose it could be install with other software, this egroupware?
[10:33] <brianherman_home> Traveler: It is slower than git but not by much.
[10:33] <supintu> ciao
[10:33] <jfb_h2o> brianherman_home, is git python based?
[10:33] <Traveler> ok
[10:33] <llutz> starplex: yes, try "aptitude why egroupware-core"
[10:34] <overmind> AgentHeX: Because Canonical doesn't add new versions with normal updates, just patches, new programms versions are added updating ubuntu's version. Anyways you can (if is avaiable) mercurial's official repo
[10:34] <jfb_h2o> brianherman_home, is mercurial distributed like git?
[10:34] <llutz> starplex: or         aptitude why  kdepim-wizards
[10:35] <starplex> kubuntu-desktop Recommends kdepim-wizards
[10:35] <AgentHeX> overmind: trying to find their package repo url.  no luck so far
[10:35] <starplex> so it comes with ubuntu?
[10:35] <cast> its easy to compile
[10:35] <starplex> well kubuntu that is
[10:35] <brianherman_home> jfb_h20: No, hg mercural is python based.
[10:35] <llutz> starplex: kubuntu-desktop
[10:35] <overmind> AgentHeX: If they have it, it should be in their web
[10:35] <AgentHeX> you would think.
[10:35] <brianherman_home> jfb_h20: Yes, mercurial is distributed like git.
[10:35] <starplex> thats annoying
[10:35] <llutz> starplex: aptitude why kubuntu-desktop               and so on....
[10:36] <cast> jfb_h2o: yes, it is distributed
[10:36] <starplex> well i install kubuntu-desktop mysself over gnome
[10:36] <jaymz> not working brianherman_home
[10:36] <llutz> starplex: using apt-get/aptitude? both will install recommends by default :(
[10:36] <AgentHeX> i'm too sick of this crap.  not going to bother.
[10:37] <AgentHeX> now to uninstall it.
[10:37] <cast> and ubuntu uses bazaar
[10:37] <brianherman_home> jaymz: What is not working mercurial?
[10:37] <jaymz> ntfs3g
[10:37] <starplex> llutz, with the apt-get, but i didn't  get this with the karmic version, i'm running lucid
[10:37] <gebUK> is anyone here familiar in troubleshooting WI-FI connection problems with broadcom 43x based cards? my card is recognising and spotting the network but it cant connect
[10:38] <jaymz> i mean the apt-get install ntfs3g thing
[10:38] <brianherman_home> Oh, did you try the command        apt-get install restricted-extras
[10:38] <jaymz> yes
[10:38] <llutz> 10.04 support at #ubuntu+1 starplex
[10:38] <brianherman_home> jaymz: Is the filesystem in your fstab file?
[10:39] <brianherman_home> jaymz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[10:39] <starplex> thank you llutz :)
[10:39] <starplex> you have been of great help
[10:40] <llutz> starplex: and, btw, apt-get shows you what's going to be installed _before_ you say Y/N ;)
[10:40] <AgentHeX> screw it.  not going to bother reading 150 pages of documentation on mercurial.  just going to uninstall it and delete the .hg folders.
[10:40] <jfb_h2o> brianherman_home, thanks..
[10:40] <joebike> running virtual hosts on ubuntu/apache, everything was going great, all of a sudden I am getting 403 forbidden errors when i try to access my localhost through the browser, i can still access localhost/phpmyadmin, but nothing else
[10:40] <starplex> thats a lot of software to read through when installing kubuntu-desktop
[10:40] <AgentHeX> back to the drawing board.
[10:41] <cast> yeah, the svn book is way shorter ;P
[10:41] <juve3> ciao a tutti
[10:41] <llutz> starplex: true, but you should do if you want to know what happens on your systems
[10:41] <jaymz> at brianherman_home, i recently installed ntfs configuration tool
[10:41] <starplex> i trusted ubuntu developers
[10:41] <starplex> but now, not
[10:41] <gebUK> lol
[10:41] <AgentHeX> cast: i was working with a team of programmers, and they had trouble with mercurial, so they defaulted to svn.  it was up and running within hours.  i just want a RCS.  i don't really care which one.
[10:41] <jaymz> but it doesnt make me view the windows files
[10:41] <llutz> never trust nobody
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> Demand a refund!
[10:42] <jaymz> but i am looking at that link you gave me
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[10:42] <FloodBot1> gavino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:42] <starplex> compromising security by putting some sort of server
[10:42] <starplex> thats nuisance
[10:42] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, [10:42] <m477> why when i run synaptic ( im using ubuntu 9,4 ) and the most of programs i can choose to install is on KDE4 ?
[10:43] <m477> 9,04*
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> m477:  clarify that statemnt a bit more please?
[10:43] <WXZ> ran update manager, restarted and now it won't connect to my wired connection
[10:43] <cast> AgentHeX: haha, i found it trivial. but if they were windows programers...at any rate, the world is migrating to distributed systems, by them git or mercurial or bazaar
[10:43] <Pumpkin> I just followed psychochats tutorial on moving /home to a new partition, and something has screwed up.. i've got my new partition under sda1 and /old/home_backup but no idea how to restore to get it back to my normal partition?
[10:43] <cast> [git, opensolaris and ubuntu, respectively, to name a few big projects]
[10:44] <WXZ> is there any way to reverse update manager?
[10:44] <coolnix> Hi, I upgraded from karmic to lucid and made an error at the definition of grub install
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  not really
[10:44] <zombie_soldier> good morning
[10:44] <llutz> 10.04 support at #ubuntu+1 coolnix
[10:44] <rtdp_> why installation process for ubuntu 10.04 changed from earlier well graphical one to little old dos like graphical one for 10.04
[10:44] <WXZ> so anyway to fix my internet?
[10:44] <m477> Dr_Willis: it seams what everything what can i install on my gnome are programs working on KDE4
[10:44] <gebUK> is anyone here familiar in troubleshooting WI-FI connection problems with broadcom 43x based cards? my card is recognising and spotting the network but it cant connect ... I cant connect at all
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> rtdp_:  its graphical here. i just installed it.. (see #ubuntu+1 also) unless you grabbed the alterntive-installer cd.
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> m477:  Huh? You can run kde apps on gnome and gnome apps on kde. I do it all the time.
[10:45] <rtdp_> Dr willis: i grabbed 10.04 gnome beta one.
[10:46] <llutz> 10.04 support at #ubuntu+1 rtdp_
[10:46] <m477> Dr_Willis: i have a problem with running kde apps, all the time i got crash and error
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> rtdp_:  beta 1 is very old.. RC is out now.. use it instead.
[10:46] <rtdp_> Dr_willis: thanks..
[10:46] <m477> Dr_Willis: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6244/zrzutekranuek.png i tried couple of distributions and core version
[10:47] <m477> always the same
[10:47] <mrp> when i connect to a vpn it starts using the internet via the vpn, how can i stop this?
[10:48] <IdleOne> !broadcom > gebUK
[10:48] <{g}> Hey People! How do I find out, which version of Ubuntu im using? And similar: which version of the flash plugin Firefox is using?
[10:48] <joebike> running virtual hosts on ubuntu/apache, everything was going fine a minute ago, suddenly I am getting 403 forbidden errors when i try to access my localhost through the browser, for some reason I can still access localhost/phpmyadmin, but nothing else
[10:48] <IdleOne> {g}: lsb_release -a
[10:49] <gebUK> IdleOne,  thanks
[10:49] <linxeh> {g}: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html for flash
[10:51] <AgentHeX> Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!  Everything is broken!!!
[10:53] <becker_11> I'm running a 1Tb external drive formatted ntfs and I think it may be developing a problem what tools are there in ubuntu for checking ntfs drives?? cli ok
[10:56] <juve3> ciaooo
[10:57] <juve3> !list
[10:57] <moetunes> juve3: try /list
[10:57] <becker_11> I'm running a 1Tb external drive formatted ntfs and I think it may be developing a problem what tools are there in ubuntu for checking ntfs drives?? cli ok
[10:58] <WXZ> ran update manager, restarted and now it won't connect to my wired connection
[10:58] <becker_11> Also how can I get the latest version of Moonlight in ubuntu karmic?? the repo version is too old for the site I'm wanting to view
[10:58] <WXZ> how can I diagnose/fix the problem
[11:04] <hiexpo> i love .sh files
[11:05] <moetunes> heh
[11:05] <{g}> IdleOne: thank you
[11:06] <GSF1200S> is anyone here able to boot Lucid with an nvidia card?
[11:06] <{g}> linxeh: thanks. it says "LNX 9,0,115,0". should i update it to 10?
[11:06] <hiexpo> !lucid
[11:06] <GSF1200S> I have been unable to boot any recent linux distrobution with my 9800GTX+
[11:06] <hiexpo> IdleOne, your still up man
[11:06] <moetunes> GSF1200S: there's someone in #ubuntu+1 that might have
[11:07] <IdleOne> hiexpo: just woke up :/
[11:07] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - oh ok same here lol
[11:08] <Tiven> i think i broke my ubuntu server install :(
[11:08] <brianherman_home> Tvien: SINGLE USER MODE FOR THE WIN
[11:08] <brianherman_home> Tvien: ok your in grub right
[11:09] <{g}> would you guys update the flashplayer in ubuntu 8.04 from 9 to 10=
[11:09] <{g}> ?
[11:09] <brianherman_home> Tvien: type these commands e to edit the kernel line and add single to that line
[11:09] <IdleOne> {g}: is the update manager offering to do it?
[11:09] <brianherman_home> Tvien: Now we are cooing with gas. You should have a root console now.
[11:10] <{g}> IdleOne: no
[11:10] <IdleOne> {g}: any reason why you need to?
[11:11] <brianherman_home> {g} they do accept patches last time I checked
[11:11] <{g}> IdleOne: a web tv page is not working and i thought it might fix it. well, i think its not wort the hassle.
[11:11] <brianherman_home> {g} have you tried wine ?
[11:11] <brianherman_home> {g} or even chrome
[11:12] <brianherman_home> {g} chrome = super fast
[11:12] <iceroot> {g}: flash10 is much faster then flash 9
[11:12] <{g}> brianherman_home: nah. it really doesnt matter.
[11:12] <iceroot> {g}: on my 630mhz pc
[11:13] <brianherman_home> {g} seriously I am a mozilla firefox rep and I tell people to use chrome all the time
[11:13] <reves> Can somebody please explain to me why I can't access my ubuntu 10.04 box remotely via VNC. my remote desktop settings keep telling me i can only access this box locally. i have forwarded 5900 port on my router to it's IP. I have disabled UFW. i have tried tightvncserver. nothing i do allows me remote access to this box.
[11:13] <brianherman_home> reves: even ssh?
[11:14] <olinash> I have that working on mine
[11:14] <brianherman_home> reves: apt-get install openssh-server
[11:14] <reves> brianherman_home, .. even ssh
[11:14] <reves> even ssh wont allow me access
[11:14] <olinash> It must be a router issue
[11:14] <brianherman_home> :(
[11:14] <{g}> brianherman_home: you dont sound like a mozilal rep to me :)
[11:14] <iceroot> reves: nmap -p 5900 pc-you-want-to-access to see if it is filtered
[11:15] <brianherman_home> {g} well the firefox support with linux is lacking I need to recruit some linux guys to work on it maybe by actually getting firefox stuff and passing it out.
[11:15] <iceroot> reves: filtered = firewall,gateway-issue, closed = nothing running on that port, open = everything fine
[11:15] <reves> PORT     STATE SERVICE
[11:15] <reves> 5900/tcp open  vnc
[11:16] <WXZ> hey iceroot, same problem
[11:16] <iceroot> reves: then its not a router/firewall issue
[11:16] <zombie_soldier> what kind of desktop does ubuntu run?
[11:16] <WXZ> my internet went out again, but only after I ran update manager
[11:16] <iceroot> zombie_soldier: gnome
[11:16] <reves> no.. because everything worked fine on fedora. im stuffed if i can figure this out
[11:16] <WXZ> gnome @ zombie_soldier
[11:16] <brah-> you can get kubuntu too
[11:16] <zombie_soldier> iceroot thank you
[11:16] <brah-> which is kde
[11:16] <rww> brah-: kubuntu
[11:16] <brianherman_home> or even xubuntu @ zombie_soldier
[11:17] <rww> ... that wasn't a question. nvm >.>
[11:17] <reves> both ubuntu and ubuntu server are giving me the same issue. entirely inaccessible remotley
[11:17] <brianherman_home> XFCE @ zombie_soldier
[11:17] <iceroot> zombie_soldier: ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce4, lubuntu = lxde
[11:17] <rww> edubuntu is made of schoolchildren
[11:17] <brianherman_home> how is lxde?
[11:17] <om26er> rww, of or for ?
[11:17] <iceroot> brianherman_home: looking like kde but needing less ressources then xfce4
[11:17] <zombie_soldier> wow thats alot to absorb, can gnome run kde apps? cause im having trouble finding a working music player
[11:17] <iceroot> brianherman_home: its worth to have a look at if you have a slow pc
[11:17] <rww> zombie_soldier: yes
[11:17] <red2kic> om26er: by
[11:17] <iceroot> zombie_soldier: yes, gnome kann run kde-apps
[11:18] <{g}> brianherman_home: so, should i update flash? and if so - how?
[11:18] <timhaines> Hey guys - I'm setting up a couple of servers at the moment, and it seems I'm having some problems getting the iptables right.  I'm trying to telnet from one to the other, and the destination syslog tells me the iptables denied the request.  Is this the right IRC channel to ask about this sort of thing?
[11:18] <zombie_soldier> do you have any suggestions for a music player?
[11:18] <iceroot> !info flashplugin-nonfree hardy
[11:18] <acicula> zombie_soldier: there is no restriction on what you can use, you can mix and match applications from gnome or kde or any other kind
[11:18] <raul> windows live messenger
[11:18] <{g}> iceroot: is that for ubuntu 8.04?
[11:18] <iceroot> {g}: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  and please remove {} from your nick
[11:19] <hiexpo> zombie_soldier, audacious
[11:19] <reves> timhaines, .. im currently having a similar issue. and support is thin on the ground mate
[11:19] <red2kic> !player | zombie_soldier
[11:19] <raul> quien eres
[11:19] <rww> timhaines: here works, though #ubuntu-server might work as well
[11:19] <WXZ> I can't connect to the internet after I ran update manager
[11:19] <WXZ> wired
[11:19] <raul> who are you
[11:19] <iceroot> {g}: yes, its for 8.04
[11:19] <{g}> iceroot: ok.. ill try it...
[11:19] <IdleOne> !es | raul
[11:20] <brianherman_home> woo rc!
[11:20] <DingGGu> 윈도우로 부팅 (워크하러 -.- 망할 wine은 워크 배넷 지원은 안해주는거냐!)
[11:21] <brianherman_home> !korean
[11:21] <timClicks> is there a command that allows me to remove an apt-repository
[11:21] <timClicks> e.g. ppa
[11:21] <brianherman_home> aptitude can do it but i just manualy edit the sources.list file
[11:21] <IdleOne> timClicks: no, you have to delete it from /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <nightwall> hi
[11:22] <timClicks> IdleOne: thanks
[11:22] <IdleOne> brianherman_home: aptitude can?
[11:22] <brianherman_home> oh my bad forget my first part timclicks
[11:22] <brianherman_home> no it cant sorry
[11:22] <brianherman_home> i thought it could i am thinking of dselect
[11:22] <acicula> timClicks: alternatively you can disable it via the Software Sources program under Administration
[11:23]  * timClicks is happy with CLI tools
[11:23] <red2kic> timClicks: Check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<name of ppa>
[11:23] <{g}> iceroot: thanks! the player update worked!
[11:23] <erle-> how to tell my gnome that i never want to enter a password to change time zone or cpu freq?
[11:23] <timClicks> just wanted to check, as there is add-apt-repository
[11:24] <IdleOne> timClicks: yes
[11:24] <IdleOne> oh, as not is
[11:24] <IdleOne> heh
[11:24] <iceroot> {g}: nice to hear
[11:24]  * IdleOne drinks more coffee
[11:25] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - [11:27]  * brianherman_home pours a another cup for everyone
[11:27]  * brianherman_home secretly puts a roofie in idleones so I can draw on his face
[11:27] <Vhozard> Why is Windows better?
[11:27] <IdleOne> !Windows
[11:28] <Vhozard> I knew someone would just do that...
[11:28] <Vhozard> lol @ launchpad
[11:28] <IdleOne> Vhozard: if you prefer Windows that is great
[11:28] <rww> no it's not :(
[11:28] <Vhozard> IdleOne Steam coming to linux?
[11:28] <timClicks> grrr
[11:29] <Vhozard> !ati
[11:29] <IdleOne> Vhozard: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:29] <Vhozard> :)
[11:29] <timClicks> apt-get is odd in how it tries to sort dependency issues
[11:29] <Vhozard> where can I find Ati related channel?
[11:29] <IdleOne> plenty of people there who will gladly discuss Windows , Linux with you
[11:29] <IdleOne> s/,/<
[11:29] <timClicks> it's telling me a package has unmet depedencies, but wont let me install anything else
[11:30] <Vhozard> timClicks try sudo apt-get -f install
[11:30] <timClicks> Vhozard: it creates a circular loop almost
[11:30] <Vhozard> nice
[11:30] <timClicks> Vhozard: apt-get -f install asks for apt-get -f install
[11:30] <Vhozard> timClicks ?
[11:30] <timClicks> exactly
[11:30] <paul_andrew> Is this the right place to discuss ubuntu enterprise cloud?
[11:31] <timClicks> paul_andrew: your mileage may vary, but ask away
[11:31] <timClicks> paul_andrew: /join #ubuntu-server
[11:31] <timClicks> paul_andrew: probably best
[11:31] <the_file> can I use wireshark to monitormy friends html form post submissions on his site?. tryin' to help him out a bit
[11:32] <Vhozard> timClicks pastebin?
[11:32] <paul_andrew> timClicks: thanks
[11:32] <paul_andrew>  /j ubuntu-server
[11:32] <paul_andrew> haha..
[11:33] <hmw> what will be different, if i do NOT "round to cylinders" when creating partitions? will perfomance be significantly different??
[11:33] <Vhozard> hmw It makes the process WAY faster
[11:34] <Vhozard> hmw You MAY need it, look it up on internet
[11:34] <Vhozard> hmw If you use Win XP as dualboot, for example
[11:34] <timClicks> Vhozard: I'll take it up with our dev team, I think it's just two conflicting PPAs
[11:34] <zombie_soldier> anyone know if audacious has visualizations
[11:34] <hmw> Vhozard: thanks
[11:35] <linduxed> im on a jaunty install, and when i do an "aptitude safe-upgrade" it always wants me to insert a karmic disc.
[11:35] <hiexpo> zombie_soldier, no its just a good music player the best i think
[11:35] <linduxed> is there a way to avoid this?
[11:35] <linduxed> i just want to get the latest jaunty packages
[11:35] <linduxed> or is the only way to install karmic?
[11:36] <linduxed> and if so...
[11:36] <Vhozard> linduxed Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the CDROM entries
[11:36] <linduxed> is there a way to skip the CD-part?
[11:36] <tatsel> linduxed: It looks like you misconfigured your apt sources
[11:36] <Vhozard> or comment them out, linduxed
[11:36] <IdleOne> linduxed: remove the CD from Software Sources in the Administration tab
[11:37] <IdleOne> s/tab/menu
[11:39] <linduxed> im quite sure ive done that
[11:39] <Vhozard> When does 10.04 final comes out?
[11:39] <IdleOne> linduxed: after that sudo apt-get update
[11:39] <IdleOne> Vhozard: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[11:39] <moetunes> 29th
[11:39] <Vhozard> 29th this month?
[11:39] <Vhozard> cool
[11:40] <IdleOne> but yeah 29th
[11:40] <CloudLevi> Good luck trying to get a clue as to how FURIOUS I AM!!!
[11:40] <CloudLevi> HOW do I make WINE WORK!?!!?
[11:41] <iceroot> CloudLevi: start it
[11:41] <IdleOne> firstly by not using caps
[11:42] <CloudLevi> Har har, Iceroot. Piece of junk won't take half the programs I throw at it, I'm TRYING to follow this wonderful little guide and now...wellllllllll the guide has apparently installed things WRONG and in such a way that they keep me from being -able- to REinstall them
[11:43] <iceroot> CloudLevi: ok, supported ended for me
[11:43] <CloudLevi> iceroot: What?
[11:43] <acicula> CloudLevi: calm down, formulate a question, what have you done, what are you trying to do etc
[11:44] <CloudLevi> acicula: Calm is impossible for me right now...I'll pretend though.
[11:44] <tatsel> CloudLevi: Then I suggest you to take a walk outside and come back asking when you will be calmed down
[11:44] <CloudLevi> acicula: http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=147567 That...right there. Followed that guide...had to improvise and figure things out myself a LOT (I absolutely despise arrogant idiots who think we ALL know how to pogram Linux)
[11:45] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: your attitude in here will determine the type of support you get :) We get that you are frustrated but that is not going to get you anywhere.
[11:45] <lalalol> !ot
[11:45] <IdleOne> !wine | CloudLevi
[11:46] <acicula> CloudLevi: ah you are trying two things
[11:46] <CloudLevi> idleone: There is NO way I am using another worthless guide!!!
[11:46] <acicula> CloudLevi: well not everything on the internet is true you know and not all guides apply to your case
[11:46] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: ok so you don't want to use the official ubuntu guide but you will take advice from total random strangers ina chatroom?
[11:46] <CloudLevi> idleone: I have yet to find a single guide I can remember where I didn't have to search and search and search for clues and bits and pieces of answers here and there.
[11:47] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: I suggest you take the advice of the users in here and calm down.
[11:47] <CloudLevi> Idleone: Can you PROMISE me it'll work without telling me there are missing files?
[11:47] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: I can't promise that because I have no clue if you will follow the guide
[11:48] <linxeh> CloudLevi: if you pay me my daily rate I'll write you a guide that works without telling you there are missing files.
[11:48] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: Stop YELLING at me
[11:48] <linxeh> CloudLevi: most of the guides you are following are written by people in their spare time, because they want to try and help others. not because they are paid. you are getting stuff for free - I'm sure you can use google and your brain to help fill in bits that person might have missed - they dont have access to teams of testers like big companies.
[11:49] <hiexpo> or they they sell those little kiddy laptops
[11:49] <dugger5688> Although if you participate in the community you can help everyone have access to more data.
[11:49] <linxeh> CloudLevi: and taking out your frustration on the VOLUNTEERS in here for mistakes in guides (or just changes in the commercial product since the guides were written) they didnt write is not fair.
[11:50] <zombie_soldier> cloud levi im a fellow first time user, ive been at this a week and im now just starting to get the hang of it, most reports of wine are that its not user friendly and that initial success rate was 0 just take a deep breath and calm down
[11:50] <CloudLevi> linxeh: Like I said, the stupid thing has me so bound up now that for some -strange- reason the commands won't go in again... two or three of the commands keep telling me either there are files missing (that weren't before) or that the folder exists and has stuff in it (I was told this wouldn't happen....)
[11:50] <linxeh> WINE is an incredible feat of software engineering.
[11:50] <brianherman_home> linxeh: and the biggest hack ever
[11:50] <moetunes> !wine
[11:50] <linxeh> brianherman_home: yep; its still an amazing feat
[11:51] <brianherman_home> linxeh:! winebottler is great for
[11:51] <brianherman_home> package management
[11:51] <CloudLevi> Zombie_soldier: uber understatement of the millenium that it isn't user friendly x_X
[11:51] <brianherman_home> no i am not dissing it that was a complement
[11:51] <linxeh> brianherman_home: indeed it is
[11:51] <linxeh> CloudLevi: it isnt meant to be user friendly!
[11:51] <zombie_soldier> how does everyone send those red messages
[11:51] <Krasus> hey anyone have problem now in updating 10.04 ?
[11:51] <elie-m> I was using wine just 5 min ago to try an configure world of warcraft to run on ubuntu
[11:51] <brianherman_home> i <3 Hacks like that how else would I test my website under mac os x and still be in mac os x
[11:51] <red2kic> zombie_soldier: Using your nickname in the message.
[11:51] <hiexpo> zombie_soldier, those are directed messages
[11:51] <linxeh> CloudLevi: buy cedega or crossover if you want it to be user friendly. it was hard enough getting WINE implemented, let alone figure out a sensible user interface for it
[11:52] <CloudLevi> linxeh: I know...it's made for programmers and - in general - people who know what they're doing...
[11:52] <brianherman_home> i mean internet exploder 8
[11:52] <linxeh> no, it isnt!
[11:52] <elie-m> but it keeps on crashing me after I log in
[11:52] <brianherman_home> !winebottler
[11:52] <tatsel> fail
[11:52] <zombie_soldier> cloud levi when do those messages about missing files appear?
[11:52] <linxeh> CloudLevi: run windows games on Windows, bottomline, or be prepared to hack. You should see if your game is supported in Cedega though
[11:52] <acicula> CloudLevi: its called a programmers os, its not an os for just programmers, but try to avoid building your programs from source
[11:53] <brianherman_home> Cloudlevi: You will learn a lot though which is really good for getting jobs.
[11:53] <elie-m> I wont keep windows just for 1 game -.-
[11:53] <acicula> CloudLevi: afaik cedega or the supplied wine binaries should work with warcraft? also on winehq you can find instructions and pointers for running programs with wine
[11:53] <dugger5688> Why not just do a 'rm -fr ~/.wine' , followed by a 'sudo apt-get remove --purge wine' and start over.
[11:53] <brianherman_home> dugger5688: +1
[11:54] <tatsel> To get uptimal compatibility for your Gaming experience while not willing to buy cedega, you can try PlayForLinux
[11:54] <tatsel> Playonlinux*
[11:54] <hiexpo> anything worth doing is not gonna be easyy be patient and allow your brain to learn don't expect people to hold your hand
[11:54] <dugger5688> It's useful, but even more of a hack
[11:54] <elie-m> I did run it.. and updated the graphics to the latest. it works fine on 1 char but on the other it does a critical error. but I'm happy enough it works
[11:54] <linxeh> acicula: he's trying starcraft II beta I think ?
[11:54] <tatsel> Which is a more user~-friendly interface and a set of scripts that configures Wine almost for you
[11:54] <brianherman_home> Is there a way to force quit gdm.
[11:54] <brianherman_home> ?
[11:54] <acicula> brianherman_home: service stop gdm
[11:55] <acicula> err
[11:55] <acicula> service gdm stop
[11:55] <brianherman_home> No from GDM i cant get a console
[11:55] <Tulimaq> elie-m: did u disable shadows ?
[11:55] <red2kic> brianherman_home: Go to TTY1-7, "sudo service gdm stop"
[11:55] <hiexpo> killall gdm
[11:55] <tatsel> brianherman_home: Zap keys?
[11:55] <tatsel> oh, yes, killall, but it's a bit heavy
[11:55] <acicula> brianherman_home: you can select a console, but it will kill the x server wich causes the x server to respan and puts you back at gdm
[11:55] <acicula> tl;dr just switch to a real tty
[11:55] <brianherman_home> I cant select a console
[11:55] <red2kic> !tty | brianherman_home
[11:56] <tatsel> brianherman_home: press ALT+CTRL + F2
[11:56] <acicula> well you dont want to either :P, just use ctrl-alt-F1
[11:56] <tatsel> yeah, F1, F2 Whatever
[11:56] <linxeh> CloudLevi: at the end of the day, your games werent designed to run on Linux. The fact that some clever people have tried to re-implement windows for Linux is a bonus - but they did this in their spare time mainly. have some respect please.
[11:56] <brianherman_home> I am in a virtual machine for some reason my mouse works but not my keyboard
[11:56] <montitofe> Bonjour
[11:56] <elie-m> are the latest intel graphics drivers included in the final release of lucid?
[11:56] <prov> I installed the alpha of ubuntu 10.04 and when I reinstalled makehuman to use in blender 3d the .deb now says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.5" I tried to install python2.5 from source and all went well, ./configure, make, make altinstall with no errors. But I return to gdebi and the same error is reported.
[11:56] <acicula> elie-m: you mean for i{ownage}? yeah i believe so
[11:56] <zombie_soldier> cloudlevi welcome back
[11:56] <tatsel> montitofe: francais? #ubuntu-fr
[11:56] <hiexpo> !fr
[11:57] <CloudLevi> Thanks... *twitches as he watches the uninstall bar for Tremulous fill*
[11:57] <elie-m> lol
[11:57] <tatsel> oh, there even is a command :o
[11:57] <acicula> prov: ubuntu+1, and dependencies are not fixed by make install from source
[11:57] <CloudLevi> oh, no...wait..it's done...YAY!!!
[11:57] <montitofe> hello tatsel nd hello everybody
[11:57] <prov> acicula: What can I do?
[11:57] <elie-m> I noticed the latest drivers are 9-4-2010 on their website, but on forums they said to ask here abt it
[11:57] <montitofe> thanks for the french channel :)
[11:57] <hiexpo> lol
[11:57] <CloudLevi> -Every- time I boot up Tremulous, it kills me...every single time...'cause I can't Alt-Tab out and the quit command freezes it =D
[11:57] <acicula> prov: install the deb package via de package manager that provides the dependency
[11:58] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: are you also running compiz at the same time?
[11:58] <elie-m> but seriously, some1 has to find a freakin solution to the annoying PARTIAL UPDATE
[11:58] <CloudLevi> idleone: Huh? Compiz?
[11:58] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: ok guess not :)
[11:58] <acicula> prov: which probably requires you to remove the stuff you installed via make install first
[11:58] <BlueEagle> cloudlevi: You know, "desktop effects"
[11:58] <CloudLevi> ...Probably
[11:58] <elie-m> compiz is not running fine with me
[11:58] <elie-m> on ubuntu
[11:59] <BlueEagle> cloudlevi: Does your windows look pretty when you move and open them and stuff?
[11:59] <prov> acicula: What do you mean, "via de package manager that provides the dependency?"
[11:59] <elie-m> I'm trying hard with it, but it just wont work
[11:59] <elie-m> I get multiple warnings
[11:59] <CloudLevi> BlueEagle: Like zooming and transparency? Yeah
[12:00] <Kream> Hi all. apologies if this is OT but is rails installed when I install ubuntu's ruby1.8 package ?
[12:00] <BlueEagle> cloudlevi: Well, that uses quite a bit of resources and is known to not play nice with Wine all the time.
[12:00] <CloudLevi> BlueEagle: It's not a problem...I didn't like the game anyway. Dumb of me to have downloaded it after getting Linux =/
[12:00] <acicula> prov: ubuntu uses the deb format and a package manager to provide programs, so if you miss a dependency you need to install it via a deb, ie via apt-get/aptittude(same thing) or via add/remove programs(GUI). JUst make install on source will provide the program but not solve the missing dependencies in the package manager
[12:00] <acicula> !deb
[12:00] <Vhozard> BlueEagle Yeah, windows look pretty
[12:00] <IdleOne> CloudLevi: try disabling the desktop effects in System > Appearances menu then run tremulous to see if it improves
[12:00] <CloudLevi> BlueEagle: Eh? Oh...no...the Tremulous problem is totally separate. That was Trem for Linux...crashed me...and the StarCraft thing...the installer just plain doesn't -RESPOND- ><
[12:00] <BlueEagle> cloudlevi: Not as dumb as pissing off the people in here whom you may need to depend upon for help later, but that's another story.
[12:01] <prov> acicula: Is it safe to add a repository in an updated ubuntu to an outdated python (I have 2.6)? Are there deb repositories for python 2X?
[12:01] <hiexpo> you don't bite the hand that feeds you
[12:01] <brianherman_home> Does virtual box work better than vmware?
[12:01] <prov> acicula: Will it remove 2.6?
[12:01] <acicula> prov: apt-cache search is your friend, ubuntu ships with 2.5,2.6 and 3.1,3.2 binaries i think
[12:01] <lalalol> !ca
[12:02]  * tatsel has no idea about Vbox <=> Vmware
[12:02] <brianherman_home> !virtualbox
[12:02] <Vhozard> CloudLevi you can run ¨metacity --replace¨ if you run compiz, to make it faster
[12:02] <Vhozard> Vbox and Vmware are the same
[12:02] <acicula> prov: no if packages are numbered, ie python2.5, python2.6, python3.0 etc they can be installed side by side
[12:02] <Q_Continuum> Why is Rythmbox ripping audio CDs so slowly now?  Where can I check what speed its ripping at?  (9.10)
[12:03] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Speed isn't the issue... It just won't start...
[12:03] <acicula> prov: obviously only one points to /usr/bin/python, but you can probably set a default via update-alternatives
[12:03] <elie-m> rythmbox in my opinion sux
[12:03] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: It zombies the instant I load it up
[12:03] <Vhozard> CloudLevi What error(s) does it give?
[12:03] <acicula> elie-m: file suggestions on how to improve it ;)
[12:03] <elie-m> ubuntu must find a replacement
[12:03] <zombie_soldier> elie-m what audio player do you use
[12:03] <BlueEagle> q_continuum: What is different in your system now from when it was ripping faster?
[12:03] <prov> acicula: If ubuntu 10.04 ships with python 2.5 then why do I need to do this?
[12:04] <acicula> elie-m: launchpad, blueprints, forums are probably good places to bring such issues up
[12:04] <prov> acicula: Why does gdebi complain?
[12:04] <acicula> prov: why do you need what
[12:04] <prov> acicula: Python 2.5 for makehuman.
[12:04] <acicula> prov: gdebi complains because you did not install a dependency
[12:04] <WXZ> ubuntu can't connect to my internet after I ran update manager, how do I fix this?
[12:04] <prov> acicula: I have Python 2.6 and it wants 2.5.
[12:04] <acicula> WXZ: did you update to lucid beta?
[12:05] <acicula> prov: apt-get install python2.5 ?
[12:05] <elie-m> zombie_soldier i use VLC and Songbird
[12:05] <WXZ> I just ran update manager and installed all the packages
[12:05] <tatsel> O.O
[12:05] <WXZ> so I'm not sure if yes or no
[12:05] <WXZ> I installed 9.10
[12:05] <IdleOne> WXZ: what does lsb_release -a tell you?
[12:05] <CloudLevi> !wine
[12:05] <WXZ> I need a secondary computer to do this :s
[12:05] <WXZ> I'm logged in using windows
[12:06] <prov> acicula: "E: Package python2.5 has no installation candidate"
[12:06] <CloudLevi> that was pointless
[12:06] <IdleOne> WXZ: ahh ok
[12:06] <prov> acicula: from apt-get install
[12:06] <WXZ> one second
[12:06] <prov> acicula: That is what it said to me.
[12:06] <zombie_soldier> elie-m do either of those have a descent visualization, movie player and rythem box have them but both are buggy as hell on my system
[12:06] <elie-m> VLC is the best at playing anything
[12:06] <acicula> prov: what ubuntu version are you using? lsb_release -a
[12:06] <elie-m> and songbird is basically Itune like
[12:07] <brianherman_hom1> ellie-m: Is Songbird dropping their linux support? Whats the deal?
[12:07] <elie-m> I read something abt that but I didnt have time to read all
[12:07] <elie-m> so I cant say I know
[12:07] <prov> acicula:Ubuntu 10.04 alpha 2.
[12:07] <fuzzy> hi =)
[12:07] <hiexpo> !hi | fuzzy
[12:07] <IdleOne> prov: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[12:08] <fuzzy> uhm ive got a tiny annoying problem
[12:08] <elie-m> zombie_soldier I think u would be pleased with VLC with both audio and video
[12:08] <elie-m> tryi t
[12:08] <hiexpo> !ask | fuzzy
[12:08] <Consul_Falx> !songbird
[12:08] <fuzzy> lol
[12:08] <Consul_Falx> !ask | question
[12:08] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: i prefer Totem with the appropiate codecs instead of VLC, VLC is Qt, Totem is GTK, so Totem is better for GNOME
[12:08] <elie-m> but honestly I dont think anything from mozilla will drop support for linux
[12:09] <acicula> prov: seems it is obsoleted, anyway lucid support is in #ubuntu+1, furtherore it does appear to be dropped from lucid, but you can probably get away with fetchin the karmic debs and installing those instead. but best continue in #ubuntu+1
[12:09] <tatsel> at..?
[12:09] <fuzzy> well when i maximise a window it doesnt maximize all the way, its like theres a panel there but there doesnt seem to be
[12:09] <tatsel> poh, nevermind, scrolldown failure
[12:09] <hiexpo> mozilla was built for linux its not going anywhere
[12:09] <Beyecixramd> elie-they did with Songbird...
[12:09] <Consul_Falx> Friction[laptop]: your vhost didn't applied on login
[12:09] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: btw, what a bloated piece of software (songbird)
[12:09] <Consul_Falx> apply
[12:09] <acicula> prov: also try updating to the latest rc instead, as the alpha is pretty dated by know(and broken probably)
[12:10] <elie-m> well maybe.. I use vlc more
[12:10] <elie-m> but songbird is alongside vlc so meh
[12:10] <prov> acicula: Thank you for your help. I will take that advice. Bye.
[12:11] <elie-m> there's alwayz plenty of software to use :P
[12:11] <Vhozard> songbird = no more linux support
[12:11] <WXZ> the internet seems to be working right now
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> BlueEagle, nothing.  Some updates to 9.10 - ripping a pile of CDs today they're taking forever
[12:11] <WXZ> but that doesn't mean a lot, this has happened before
[12:11] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: if you want an iTunes-like interface, try out aTunes, uses Java, but it's pretty cool, and skinnable...
[12:11] <hiexpo> amzing whata reboot can do
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> BlueEagle, as in like 35+ minutes on a CoreDuo laptop while plugged in
[12:11] <elie-m> what I care about is making world of warcraft run 90% on linux and I would be happy
[12:12] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: WoW is platinum on Wine...
[12:12] <elie-m> define platinum
[12:12] <acicula> awesomeness without compiling and codeedtting
[12:13] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: basically, what acicula says. Runs at more than 90% of its Windows performance on Linux. You only need to run it in OpenGL mode
[12:13] <elie-m> i did that
[12:13] <mopperwhite> My teacher asked me to write something about life.
[12:13] <elie-m> today I updated the graphics drivers from intel, so I could run world of warcraft and it ran with opengl
[12:14] <elie-m> but it crashes me on 1 char
[12:14] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: witha decent video card and the appropiate drivers in Linux, it should run perfectly, i saw that
[12:14] <elie-m> and works fine on the other
[12:14] <mopperwhite> I am getting nervous.
[12:14] <acicula> elie-m: other?
[12:14] <visof> where is .bashrc for root user ?
[12:14] <bazhang> mopperwhite, that's offtopic for here
[12:14] <acicula> visof: /root
[12:14] <tatsel> !ot | mopperwhite
[12:14] <elie-m> beyecixramd: yes I have no doubt about that. I trying on my own laptop
[12:15] <elie-m> acicula: other character
[12:15] <acicula> ah
[12:15] <fuzzy> can you help me? When i maximise a window it doesnt maximize all the way, its like theres a panel there but there doesnt seem to be.
[12:15] <CloudLevi> idleone: Looks like I have to downgrade Wine =_=;;;;
[12:15] <CloudLevi> idleone: Or-
[12:15]  * tatsel needs to talk to ubottu's coder about that  | function
[12:15] <airtonix> elie, i doubt you'll have much fun without a dedicated graphics card
[12:15] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: what's the problem then? Blizzard spends a lot of developers in making WoW work in Linux (at least with Wine)
[12:15] <acicula> idunno, intel stuff is kind of useless still, nvidia/ati drivers are much better in that respect
[12:15] <visof> i can't use su in ubuntu
[12:15] <acicula> re supportin opengl and all that good stuff
[12:15] <airtonix> Beyecixramd, no they actually dont.
[12:15] <tatsel> visof: use sudo
[12:15] <elie-m> blizzard isnt doing anything for linux
[12:16] <Beyecixramd> airtonix: yep, Blizzard, Codeweavers, Canonical, Red Hat, Novell,
[12:16] <tatsel> elie-m: at least WoW works
[12:16] <zombie_soldier> elie-m can you get visualizations for vlc
[12:16] <Beyecixramd> airtonix: and let's not forget ID Software
[12:16] <elie-m> acicula: I agree but with the new intel drivers (as of 30-3-2010) wow can work decently on linux
[12:16] <tatsel> so Starcraft and Diablo does
[12:16] <airtonix> Beyecixramd, no really they do nothing for linux. show me proof.
[12:16] <elie-m> but I cant know why it crashes on the other
[12:17] <acicula> elie-m: different effects used maybe?
[12:17] <tatsel> elie-m try installing them from PlayOnLinux
[12:17] <acicula> elie-m: you can run wine in debug mode to find out
[12:17] <Beyecixramd> airtonix: they all contribute to Wine and 3D accelerated games
[12:17] <visof> can i know the changes that occured in some files?
[12:17] <airtonix> Beyecixramd, proof ?
[12:17] <elie-m> acicula: how to
[12:17] <CloudLevi> tatsel: ???
[12:17] <visof> hist ?
[12:17] <tatsel> elie-m: and remember to turn compiz off when using Wine.
[12:17] <Beyecixramd> airtonix: can't give you proof, search on the Internerdz
[12:17] <elie-m> beyecixramd: blizzard doesnt
[12:17] <acicula> elie-m: --debug +stuff, man wine ;)
[12:17] <tatsel> clarkb: ?
[12:17] <tatsel> ergh
[12:17] <airtonix> Beyecixramd, then they dont.
[12:17] <tatsel> Sorry clark
[12:18] <tatsel> CloudLevi: hm?
[12:18] <CloudLevi> tatsel: Play On Linux???
[12:18] <elie-m> tatsel: compiz doesnt even work. it gives me many warnings
[12:18] <tatsel> CloudLevi: yes. <
[12:18] <tatsel> elie-m: O.O
[12:18] <CloudLevi> tatsel: I don't suppose I'd be able to do something about SC2 with that
[12:19] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: there you have it, either your card or your drivers suck. Compiz should work perfectly since it's a native linux program
[12:19] <tatsel> CloudLevi: Beta is Beta
[12:19] <elie-m> yea.. I dont like that, because I like compiz.. I can't resolve the warnings. I googled much about the issues
[12:19] <CloudLevi> tatsel: ...What about it? >>;
[12:19] <airtonix> elie-m, without a dedicated graphics card that has decent gpu with its own 'fast' ram, you won't be able to do much in wow if you can't even get compiz running.
[12:19] <CloudLevi> tatsel: I have the beta installer.
[12:19] <tatsel> CloudLevi: besides, Linux is a Comunity, it takes time for such kind of support to be added
[12:19] <CloudLevi> tatsel: Wha...?
[12:19] <elie-m> airtonix: I have intel graphics card up to 1759 MB
[12:20] <cretsiah> im trying to use xrdp on ubuntu so i can use windows rdesktop but all i get is a blackscreen
[12:20] <tatsel> CloudLevi: and since this is the beta, first, I must admit I am jaleous :D
[12:20] <airtonix> elie-m, ie: with an nvidia 8800gt, i can raid wow sarth 3d while using compiz.
[12:20] <CloudLevi> tatsel: I don't even know what Play On Linux is... ><;;; also I'm not -IN- the beta. x_X; I just have the program...
[12:20] <airtonix> elie-m, no a graphics card with ITS OWN ram. not shared from system.
[12:20] <tatsel> CloudLevi: second: You will have better luck with the final game.
[12:20] <elie-m> airtonix: I understood u, but it has enough ram to work :S
[12:21] <airtonix> elie, not on linux it doesnt
[12:21] <CloudLevi> tatsel: I'll have more luck on Windows =-=;;; *stores the installer away, flips off Wine, and goes about his business*
[12:21] <elie-m> airtonic: really?! doesnt it take from the RAM space
[12:21] <elie-m> airtonix: really?! doesnt it take from the RAM space
[12:21] <Vhozard> CloudLevi what are trying to play? sc2?
[12:21] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: the RAM doesn't matter, what matters most is the engine of the graphics card. There's no profit on having up to 8 Gb of RAM in the gfx card if it doesn't do 3D accel (for example)
[12:21] <tatsel> CloudLevi: but as I saud earlier, PlayOnLinux is a more user-friendly interface to Wine, and it configures wine to works a lot easier
[12:21] <airtonix> elie-m, on my setup with 4gb of system ram and the nvidia 8800gt with 512mb of its own ram i still only got around 32fps during raids.
[12:22] <CloudLevi> tatsel: Ubuntu is cool and all but really...this machine isn't even WORTH the frustrati- What is it a patch or something?
[12:22] <elie-m> hmmm
[12:22] <Salva1> Does Ubuntu 9.10 uses an I686 Kernel by default?
[12:22] <CloudLevi> vhozard: Yeah...
[12:22] <airtonix> elie-m, and thats with a core2duo e6550
[12:22] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: It zombies every time I boot the installer EXE
[12:22] <Salva1> I am refering to the 32-bit version.-
[12:22] <tatsel> !wiki Playonlinyx ! CloudLevi
[12:22] <airtonix> elie-m, so if you really dont want to buy new hardware, just use windows for wow.
[12:22] <tatsel> !wiki Playonlinyx
[12:22] <elie-m> the thing is that it is awesome on windows.. I thought it would be the same on ubuntu
[12:22] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: SURE it boots up but it zombies the second it -does- DX
[12:22] <tatsel> ._.
[12:22] <Beyecixramd> no Salva1, Ubuntu will be using a i386 kernel for a long time...
[12:22] <Vhozard> CloudLevi installed wine from winHQ repos?
[12:22] <tatsel> !wiki Playonlinux
[12:23] <IdleOne> !games | CloudLevi tatsel
[12:23] <tatsel> hm
[12:23] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Installed it with the software manager
[12:23] <IdleOne> tatsel: there is no !wiki module
[12:23] <tatsel> Oh
[12:23] <airtonix> elie-m, thing is you're not using the same graphics backend and you're not using the same gpu driver.
[12:23] <tatsel> ok, sorry
[12:23] <IdleOne> tatsel: np
[12:23] <tatsel> !google PlayonLinux
[12:23] <Vhozard> CloudLevi http://images.hardwareinfo.net/usersys/benchmarks/005380-2.jpg
[12:23] <skizorager> hi all, is there a solution to preview .cr2 file (cannon photo file) thumbnails in dolphin ?
[12:23] <IdleOne> tatsel: or !google
[12:23] <tatsel> ._.
[12:23] <tatsel> I see
[12:23] <elie-m> airtonix I left windows for wow, but I'm trying real hard to end the dependency on it
[12:23] <Vhozard> CloudLevi sorry, wrong link: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[12:24] <visof> can i show modification for the files ?
[12:24] <Salva1> Will the amd64 one will be more fast than the I686?
[12:24] <airtonix> elie-m, then play aion.
[12:24] <skiwithpete> hi
[12:24] <elie-m> I dont want anything to do with windows :P
[12:24] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: What was -that-?
[12:24] <tatsel> CloudLevi: http://playonlinux.com
[12:24] <airtonix> elie-m, in any case you'r not going to have much fun with your current setup.
[12:24] <elie-m> yeah
[12:24] <skiwithpete> I've installed 10.04RC.  Can someone help me setup my mic
[12:24] <Vhozard> CloudLevi Check the 2nd link :D first link is from another msn conversation :o
[12:24] <acicula> Salva1: faster no,better yes
[12:24] <acicula> skiwithpete: see topic, #ubuntu+1
[12:25] <Salva1> What do You mean by better?
[12:25] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: and what was it? o_O
[12:25] <aar> Hi, is it possible to ask grep to get the output AFTER an expression (without including the expression itself). I want to get the PDF title (using extract) but I don't want the expression "title:" in front of it.
[12:25] <tatsel> IdleOne: Do you know who is ubottu's coder?
[12:25] <Vhozard> CloudLevi An old 3dmark06 test of mine
[12:25] <CloudLevi> elie-m: Neither do I but Ubuntu is just so FRUSTRATING DX
[12:25] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Interesting o-o
[12:25] <acicula> Salva1: better security, bigger numbers, its all a bit technical, but it wont make (most) stuff go faster
[12:25] <skiwithpete> thanks acicula
[12:25] <elie-m> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:25] <elie-m> xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:26] <elie-m> that's what I get among others when I start compiz
[12:26] <elie-m> WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
[12:27] <Vhozard> CloudLevi Cant you dualboot win 7?
[12:27] <Salva1> Also; Why does Ubuntu does not use an I686 kernel?
[12:27] <Salva1> Even Debian uses it?
[12:27] <Salva1> .
[12:27] <geekphreak> hello all
[12:27] <elie-m> dualbooting win7 and ubuntu is pretty easy
[12:27] <elie-m> and decent
[12:27] <acicula> Salva1: eh?
[12:27] <acicula> Salva1: oh you mean the 32bit kernel says i386 or something?
[12:28] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Can't get Win7...at least not in any reasonable timeframe. I had it, uninstalled it thinking it was ruined and unrecoverable, aaand now I am without an ISO or optical...
[12:28] <hiexpo> ------> geekphreak  - morning
[12:28] <IdleOne> tatsel: I am not sure sorry
[12:28] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: And the ISO torrent I used the first time is dead
[12:28] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: what joke of OS is Win7?
[12:28] <geekphreak> hiexpo: howdy
[12:28] <IdleOne> !bot > tatsel
[12:28] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: That and my comp is pathetic... I just need a new one is all
[12:28] <geekphreak> IdleOne: howdy :)
[12:29] <acicula> Salva1: oh like so, if you use a 64bit os that implies a 64bit kernel, i686 is a 32bit standard
[12:29] <elie-m> beyecixramd: every windows is a joke, but windows 7 is pretty much safe to say, is ery good
[12:29] <elie-m> very*
[12:29] <tatsel> IdleOne: :P thanks, but I am not looking for usage, but looking for the coder him/herself to have a little chat :D
[12:29] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: from what i've seen, Windows 7 is exactly like Vista, but with a fatter taskbar (btw, Windows 7 it's Nt 6.1, and Windows Vista is NT 6.0, soo...)
[12:30] <Salva1> Why does use the I386 instead of the I686?
[12:30] <elie-m> beyecixramd yes I noticed the versions
[12:30] <hiexpo> ya a virus
[12:30] <elie-m> beyecixramd: but no it's not like vist
[12:30] <acicula> Salva1: it does and it doesnt, modern kernels select the optium code path for an architecture
[12:30] <Beyecixramd> elie-m: sure it's like Vista...
[12:30] <elie-m> it's actually a LOT better.. no
[12:30] <acicula> Salva1: so an i386 will still use i686 code on an i686 capable proc, but also run on an i386
[12:31] <elie-m> I used vista for 2 years and I can assure u it's not vista
[12:31] <acicula> Salva1: reversely a i686 kernerl will not work on an i386
[12:31] <Vhozard> Beyecixramd Ehh, no, win 7 is NOT exactly vista
[12:31] <elie-m> it has better polished graphics with stolen effects from gnome gnu and it's very faster
[12:31] <tatsel> !ot elie-m Beyecixramd
[12:31] <Salva1> Thanks for clarifying that.
[12:31] <Beyecixramd> Vhozard: of course it's not *exactly* for god's sake, if it was exactly like Vista, Windows 7 won't be called 7, but Vista...
[12:31] <Vhozard> Beyecixramd Win 7 > vista
[12:31] <tatsel> !ot | elie-m Beyecixramd
[12:32] <tatsel> but yes, Seven > vista
[12:32] <Beyecixramd> lol Vhozard.... Linux > *windows*
[12:32] <Vhozard> Beyecixramd You said: 7 is vista, but with different taskbar
[12:32] <Vhozard> ehh, no
[12:32] <elie-m> vhazard: no
[12:32] <tatsel> Linux > Seven > V
[12:32] <elie-m> vhozard*
[12:32] <Vhozard> Windows > Mac > Linux > BSD/unix
[12:32] <Beyecixramd> Vhozard: and animated bootscreen, and some new sound themes and not much else
[12:32] <CloudLevi> Beyecixramd: He's right... Win7 is incompatible with certain Vista drivers...like my CD-rom and certain other pieces of my computer *sigh*... And yeah...Linux is... ... ...I have no idea... they're all horrible
[12:32] <elie-m> bye for now cya all later
[12:32] <acicula> can we stick to support questions and take the os discussion supremity to offtopic?
[12:32] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: I'm inclined to agree with you...
[12:33] <Beyecixramd> acicula: yes, better
[12:33] <linduxed> i was in the middle of a "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" but got hit by a battery shutdown
[12:33] <tatsel> !win
[12:33] <CloudLevi> lol...
[12:33] <tatsel> meh
[12:33] <tatsel> Missing
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> clear
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:33] <linduxed> so now ive got a kernel that i get kernel panic from in grub
[12:33] <Vhozard> If Linux gets decent new hardware support, games, elite application support: Linux >> Windows
[12:33] <tatsel> linduxed: :ouch:
[12:33] <linduxed> tatsel: yupp
[12:34] <acicula> linduxed: boot a livecd and chroot into your ubuntu and resume/restart the apt-get upgrade
[12:34] <linduxed> i've reverted to a kernel in grub
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: some developers deleop for linux now, hardware support i down to the hardware manufacturers, nvidia have supported linux for ages
[12:34] <linduxed> so i can get in without a problem
[12:34] <hiexpo> remove thatbad kernak and redo
[12:34] <acicula> oh then just restart the uprade from there then? this time on ac ;)
[12:34] <Vhozard> ActionParsnip Whats your point?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: it's already started happening, people just had their head in the windows sand too long
[12:35] <CloudLevi> ActionParsnip: Aaaand Sony not so much...*stomps his laptop, then stabs it with his sword*
[12:35] <tatsel> linduxed: they should add it: "Please plug in the sector adaptor if you are using a laptop computer or wait untill you can. Your battery may sudently be depleted due to intense CPU effort"
[12:35] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to extract a PDF title using the command "extract", but I don't want the word "title:" in front of it. How do I complete this: extract file.pdf | grep ...
[12:35] <Vhozard>  ActionParsnip Ofcourse its STARTED happening, but it isnt far enough
[12:35] <acicula> tatsel: it does say that when using te gui
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: look at ID software dude, doom source has been around ages
[12:35] <unop> aar,  grep -v "title:"
[12:36] <tatsel> acicula: \o/
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: that sort of junk
[12:36] <Vhozard>  ActionParsnip So?
[12:36] <Vhozard>  ActionParsnip Not most major gaming businesses
[12:36] <linduxed> tatsel: well this was more of a true battery failure, it's apparently quite unreliable
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: doom3 has a native installer, I'd say ID was a major gaming business
[12:36] <Vhozard>  ActionParsnip I said MOST
[12:37] <mede> hi, anyone knows how to work a scanner hp3670
[12:37] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: ... ...Well your link worked >>
[12:37] <hiexpo> !hp
[12:37] <Vhozard> mede Install a program called: xsane
[12:37] <mede> si
[12:37] <mede> yes
[12:37] <mede> scanjet 3670
[12:37] <tatsel> linduxed: You knew that before?
[12:37] <aar> unop, thanks, how do I tell grep to select the line that starts with "title -" but not include the expression "title -" in the output?
[12:37] <Vhozard> CloudLevi lol, it worked?
[12:37] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Without a living hell worth of insanity swarming around configuring and patching Wine, I have now managed to get SC2 up...
[12:38] <linduxed> tatsel: unfortunately not, not my laptop really
[12:38] <mede> I found on xsane and nothing
[12:38] <Vhozard> cool
[12:38] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: ...*waits for Windows Live installer to appear*
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mede: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2564
[12:38] <unop> aar, grep wouldn't be able to do that - sed or awk could.   sed 's/title -//'
[12:38] <tatsel> linduxed: D'oh to the guy who hasn't specified
[12:38] <CloudLevi> nope...
[12:38] <hiexpo> hplip
[12:38] <Vhozard> mede Open Gnome-Terminal and type ¨sudo apt-get install xsane¨
[12:39] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: What's xsane do?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mede: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/linux-driver-for-hp-scanjet-3670-a-699555/
[12:40] <aar> unop, this seems to work fine: extract file.pdf |  grep title | sed 's/title -//' Might be a bit long-winded, but does the trick. Thanks!
[12:40] <mede> ok thanks I'll try
[12:40] <joebike> On ubuntu/apache, getting a 403 error trying access localhost, error.log shows "Directory index forbidden by Options directive:" that points to the root of one of the sites i have as a virtual host, I removed it to see if it fixed, but then the error log just moves on to another site in the virtual hosts.  It had been working, then rebooted apache and started getting 403s
[12:41] <unop> aar,  sed -n '/title - /s/title - //p'
[12:41] <unop> aar, and then you can skip the grep part
[12:42] <aar> unop, much more elegant. Thanks! :)
[12:42] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Any idea how to get Empathy to message cell phones? >> like with Windows Live?
[12:42] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Or make Emesene replace Empathy in that wonderfully convenient button?
[12:43] <albert_> hi, is there a console command to clear the playlist of the running vlc instance?
[12:43] <Vhozard> CloudLevi Sorry, dont know that. I use pidgin myself
[12:44] <Vhozard> albert_ Dont think so
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> albert_:  check 'vlc --help' and the vlc docs perhaps.
[12:44] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Can I contact a cellphone with that?
[12:44] <albert_> did check it, didn't find anything
[12:44] <tatsel> Empathy.. IDK why they replaced
[12:44] <red2kic> CloudLevi: You can.
[12:44] <vzlom> hello all =)
[12:44] <albert_> thanks anyway :D
[12:44] <CloudLevi> red2kic: ;-; Thank you...
[12:44] <samphippen|lapto> how do I set evolution to download the contents of all my email automatically, instead of just subject/sender
[12:45] <mozir> I'm used to Windows and the pretty "Windows is shutting down..." light-blue gradient screen... And now in Ubuntu I still get scared every time I shut it down
[12:45] <tatsel> irc doesn't even works as much as pidgin does
[12:45] <manohar> getting this error in Ubuntu 8.04 using Evolution "Error refreshing folder" help please
[12:45] <mozir> You know the random colors, then the black shell where it reads "Important kernel process X has been killed" etc
[12:45] <Vhozard> mozir Thats one of the rules of ubuntu: Scare people
[12:45] <elnur> How can I force a HDD to be mounted at system start, not just when I try to use it?
[12:45] <tatsel> ._.
[12:45] <red2kic> mozir: Turn off the monitor before you shut it down. :)
[12:45] <Vhozard> elnur Edit the file /etc/fstab
[12:45] <tatsel> elnur: fstab
[12:45] <tatsel> aw, grilled
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | elnur
[12:46] <geekphreak> samphippen|lapto: did you setup evolution?
[12:46] <samphippen|lapto> geekphreak, I did, does it download email by default?
[12:46] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Can you contact a cell through MSN on Pidgin?
[12:47] <manohar> i have problem fetching INBOX
[12:47] <elnur> Thank you, guys.
[12:47] <manohar> in evolution
[12:47] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Or is it something else?
[12:47] <red2kic> CloudLevi: MSN? I don't know. I use AIM. Add a contact (ie +911)
[12:47] <geekphreak> samphippen|lapto:  it downloads full email yes
[12:47] <lubse> hello, how do I install a Dutch spelling checker for open office?
[12:47] <CloudLevi> red2kic: interesting...
[12:48] <samphippen|lapto> ok
[12:48] <Vhozard> lubse Open synaptic en zoek naar: openoffice
[12:48] <manohar> greekphreak: evolution gives error "cannot refresh folder" while fetching email
[12:48] <Vhozard> lubse In die lijst staat wel ergens dutch
[12:49] <geekphreak> manohar: using imap ?
[12:49] <Vhozard> lubse Je kan ook zoeken naar ¨aspell¨ en dan de nederlandse versie installeren
[12:49] <manohar> greekphreak: yes using imap to fetch gmail
[12:49] <jfb_h2o> can I use a dpkg set-selections output file on a 32bit machine to install packages on a 64bit machine?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> jfb_h2o: absolutely
[12:49] <geekphreak> manohar: make sure in gmail imap is enabled and port settings are ok ssl enabled :)
[12:49] <jfb_h2o> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[12:49] <unop> !clone | jfb_h2o
[12:50] <manohar> geekphreak: where should be ssl enabled?
[12:50] <manohar> in gmail?
[12:50] <tatsel> O.O
[12:50] <unop> jfb_h2o, you have to careful using dpkg --set-selections -- package names can be truncated if they are too long
[12:50] <tatsel> That kind of things can be done O.O
[12:50] <jfb_h2o> unop, are you a bot?
[12:50] <unop> jfb_h2o, negative.
[12:51] <geekphreak> manohar:  no, when you login to gmail using firefox , goto setting enable imap there first , then in evolution , enable ssl for imap gmail server
[12:51] <jfb_h2o> unop, what is !close
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> manohar: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[12:51] <jfb_h2o> oops, clone
[12:51] <tatsel> a command to show you how to clone your current system
[12:51] <unop> jfb_h2o, clone* -- as in, take a list of packages that are installed on one machine and install the same set on another
[12:51] <manohar> geekphreak: i hav ssl enabled in evolution
[12:52] <geekphreak> manohar: is imap enabled in gmail?
[12:52] <lubse> Vhozard: synaptic?
[12:52] <jfb_h2o> unop, I'll have to investigate... so the suggestion of the bot is better than using dpkg?
[12:53] <jfb_h2o> !automate
[12:53] <CloudLevi1> woohoo!!!
[12:53] <CloudLevi1> ...wha?
[12:53] <manohar> geekphreak: yup i think so. checking again in case not done
[12:53] <CloudLevi1> oh...^^;
[12:53] <geekphreak> ok
[12:53] <CloudLevi> AND Pidgin uses IRC commands =D
[12:54] <tatsel> Most of them*
[12:54] <unop> jfb_h2o, in our optinion - yes -- you can use dpkg for the same purpose but beware that it has some limitations
[12:54] <lubse> something like sudo aptitude install aspell-dutch ?
[12:54] <jfb_h2o> !cloning
[12:54] <Vhozard> lubse Yup, dat is goed :)
[12:54] <geekphreak> lubse: i think myspell-nl
[12:54] <jfb_h2o> unop, ActionParsnip thanks!
[12:54] <geekphreak> or that !
[12:54]  * jfb_h2o is going to do some reading...
[12:54] <Vhozard> myspell is possible too
[12:55] <lubse> Vhozard: aspell-dutch does not exist :P
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> !find dutch
[12:55] <Vhozard> lubse Ik zit niet op ubuntu nu, maar het is vast wel te vinden via synaptic
[12:55] <Vhozard> lubse synaptic is de GUI van apt-get of aptitude
[12:56] <lubse> Get:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main myspell-nl 1:1.10-2 [1,036kB]
[12:56] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Ubuntu...has just gotten a LOT better... ;w;
[12:56] <CloudLevi> but this font has to go...
[12:56] <Vhozard> CloudLevi wth?
[12:56] <h3X^> after installing ubuntu 9.10 i get "no screens found" when starting xorg; but it works perfectly when running from the liveCD! is the config different there? any reason why setup shouldn't be able to autoconfigure it?
[12:57]  * lubse bows deeply to geekphreak
[12:57] <lubse> thanks!
[12:57] <geekphreak> np
[12:57] <manohar> geekphreak: imap is enabled in gmail
[12:58] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: I'm installing StarCraft 2 and am now on Pidgin, which allows SMS, which will take a LOT of stress off my relationship with my fiancé. So I'm VERY happy now. =w=
[12:58] <geekphreak> manohar: do you have lot of email in your account, cause if so it might take time
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> h3X^: boot to recovery root console and run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   then reboot
[12:58] <CloudLevi> And all the pretty colors *w*
[12:58] <Vhozard> CloudLevi haha, cool, man!
[12:58] <h3X^> ActionParsnip, i'll try that
[12:58] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Aye! <3
[12:58] <h3X^> just wish i could alt-tab between OS's
[12:59] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: Only problem I have is that it shows SMS users as online x_X which means I won't be able to tell when she's on/off Xbox ><;;;
[12:59] <manohar> geekphreak: it shows fetching messages and after 80% it gives error "cannot refresh folder"
[12:59] <pt_user> anybody know about the state of glX?
[12:59] <pt_user> i have ap problem with my graphics card
[13:00] <h3X^> where can i find the config file for grub btw?
[13:00] <hellyeah> hey
[13:00] <red2kic> CloudLevi: Wait... You can? Pidgin can add MSN and MSN is already incorporated into Xbox Live. You just need to add her email account that was registered to her Xbox Live.
[13:00] <hellyeah> i have 80 jpg file how can i unite these iage file into djvu format
[13:00] <red2kic> CloudLevi: I use that all times to send chat messages to my Xbox-inducted friends.
[13:01] <geekphreak> manohar:  manohar so it is downloading emails just stops at 80, any ideas which files/folder it hangs on?
[13:01] <pt_user> @ hellyeah: there's a package "minidjvu" that converts pages in .tif to djvu
[13:01] <unop> hellyeah, depends on what you mean by unite
[13:01] <manohar> geekphreak: i searched this error in google and this was a bug
[13:01] <CloudLevi> red2kic: nonononono... it shows her as online because I have her phone number programmed in for SMS...
[13:01] <CloudLevi> red2kic: So if she's permanently online, I DOUBT I'll be getting alerts for her going on or off x_X;
[13:01] <geekphreak> manohar:  i know of a bug in gmail, but it actually gave different error message, wana try something/
[13:01] <manohar> geekphreak: oh problem solved i think
[13:02] <red2kic> CloudLevi: Right. It'll display online all times. There are no way of knowing if she's turning her phone off. :P
[13:02] <geekphreak> manohar: what was the issue
[13:02] <manohar> i limited the no. of messages in gmail to 1000
[13:02] <manohar> so it fetched
[13:02] <CloudLevi> red2kic: MSN showed her as offline ><
[13:02] <geekphreak> manohar: i would try with pop :)
[13:02] <manohar> i think due to too much of messages it was unable to fetch
[13:03] <red2kic> CloudLevi: For cellphones or her Xbox?
[13:03] <manohar> geekphreak: wats difference b/w imap and pop?
[13:03] <manohar> which one is better?
[13:03] <geekphreak> manohar:  but tell me something man, if you use imap for evolutiion why would you wana limit :), you would want all emails shown right?
[13:03] <red2kic> manohar: IMAP.
[13:03] <uLinux> Is there any application similar to Ventrilo, Skype etc for ubuntu?
[13:03] <pt_user> the driver in 10.04 is really slow, it's like 3D hardware acceleration is off
[13:03] <uLinux> IMAP is better
[13:04] <CloudLevi> red2kic: cell...only if she was logged into her email account would it show her as online...now it just shows her as on because of the number. I -REALLY- liked it the other way =/
[13:04] <geekphreak> uLinux: matter of personal choice :p
[13:04] <uLinux> geekphreak ?
[13:04] <uLinux> just tell me one
[13:04] <IdleOne> uLinux: Ekiga
[13:04] <uLinux> i dont want to use wine
[13:04] <hellyeah> unop, i want to look one document instead of looking 80 images
[13:04] <uLinux> IdleOne  tks
[13:04] <geekphreak> i do like pop :)
[13:04] <manohar> geekphreak: but limiting solved the problem
[13:04] <CloudLevi> Vhozard: any idea why this random, nameless, textless, meaningless error keeps popping up at the beginning of every SC2 update? o_O;
[13:04] <hellyeah> i want to convert jpg to djvu
[13:04] <unop> hellyeah, so you want each image one after another ?
[13:04] <red2kic> CloudLevi: I see. I don't know about MSN though. You can add her MSN account?
[13:04] <geekphreak> manohar:  well as long as it works, it good nes , good luck
[13:05] <manohar> geekphreak: thanx
[13:05] <Vhozard> CloudLevi Dont play sc2, so I dont know :o
[13:05] <geekphreak> np
[13:05] <uLinux> oh IdleOne  there is also mumble
[13:05] <uLinux> :)
[13:05] <manohar> red2kic: y is imap better?
[13:05] <IdleOne> uLinux: yes, that too
[13:05] <uLinux> it is
[13:05] <pt_user> hellyeah: http://minidjvu.sourceforge.net/
[13:05] <CloudLevi> red2kic: I have her MSN account and SMS number tied together, that's the problem.
[13:05] <uLinux> manohar  user imap
[13:05] <uLinux> use
[13:06] <red2kic> manohar: Because I say so. Its benefits greatly outweighs POP.
[13:06] <hellyeah> pt_user,  you said it is for tiff ?
[13:06] <CloudLevi> red2kic: I suppose I can separate them, but that'd just be redundant...
[13:06] <hellyeah> i jhave jpg
[13:06] <IdleOne> uLinux: i forgot mumble because it hasn;t been working for me :/
[13:06] <pt_user> hellyeah: you just need to convert jpg to tiff first
[13:06] <manohar> uLinux: y to use imap?
[13:06] <pt_user> but yes, it works
[13:06] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Maybe if she's online it'll remove the SMS symbol...
[13:06] <jfb_h2o> unop, do you have an opinion on the aptitude vs. debconf-set-selections method that the 'automating' web site references?
[13:06] <red2kic> manohar: I doubt it. However, I imagine you could group accounts (and aliases).
[13:07] <pt_user> i think imagemagick will do it fast enough
[13:07] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Yeah...it'll post her status and probably remove the icon...might add something for her display image, which is currently blank
[13:07] <uLinux> manohar http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=imap+vs+pop
[13:07] <manohar> red2kic: wat r the benefits? i had to limit my mails to 1000
[13:07] <manohar> uLinux: ok i will google abt it
[13:07] <red2kic> manohar: See uLinux's search result. :)
[13:09] <manohar> red2kic: i did it before so used imap but i had to limit my mails. and geekphreak says y should we limit mails if we r using imap
[13:09] <geekphreak> manohar: choose what works best for you :d
[13:09] <red2kic> manohar: Why do you have to limit your mails? Just wondering.
[13:10] <red2kic> manohar: Preserve bandwidth. It's not like we're going to go through all old mails anytime soon.
[13:10] <uLinux> gmail @ thunderbird + imap works fine
[13:10] <Curly_Q> Greets to the Geekphreak.   :)  <-------------------< How are you today?
[13:10] <hellyeah> hey
[13:10] <hellyeah> is there someone who use minidjvu
[13:11] <pt_user> i'm back, mate
[13:11] <pt_user> i used it in windows
[13:11] <geekphreak> red2kic:  he was having some issues fetching folder, he said limiting emails solved his issue
[13:11] <geekphreak> manohar:  just wndering are you on dialup?
[13:11] <hellyeah> pt_user,  oh okey
[13:11] <geekphreak> hey Curly_Q , good here, and you?
[13:11] <manohar> red2kic: coz it gave error while fetching mails. after fetching 80% it gave error "Cannot refresh folder" and it couldnot fetch any mail.
[13:11] <Curly_Q> Not bad thanks Geekphreak. Good to see you again.
[13:11] <miansc> hey guys
[13:11] <pt_user> i'll take a look at the source tarball
[13:11] <miansc> how can i completly delete grub and install a fresh copy
[13:11] <geekphreak> manohar:  do you use anti virus?
[13:12] <geekphreak> oh forgot he is on linux lol my bad lol
[13:12] <Curly_Q> Geekphreak, have you used a USB interface called Dazzle with Ubuntu? I am working with it with Windows. It is not a bad device.
[13:12] <micmic> hi
[13:12] <CloudLevi> geekphreak: If he gotz Linux there be no need 'cause we VIRUS PROOF =D
[13:12] <IdleOne> miansc: grub or grub2?
[13:12] <micmic> hi
[13:12] <geekphreak> CloudLevi: yeah i relaized my mistake
[13:12] <miansc> IdleOne:  im using ubuntu 9.04, so it's just grun right?
[13:12] <pt_user> hellyeah: you can get directly from ubuntu servers, they have the binary
[13:12] <miansc> grub*
[13:12] <IdleOne> !brub > miansc
[13:12] <IdleOne> heh
[13:12] <geekphreak> Curly_Q: nope never heard of it?
[13:13] <IdleOne> !grub > miansc
[13:13] <geekphreak> IdleOne:  :)
[13:13] <IdleOne> geekphreak: :)
[13:13] <h3X^> back with same problem, no screens found. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't yield even a response.
[13:13] <Curly_Q> Geekphreak it is a USB interface with an Svideo port as well as R+L and Video channels.
[13:13] <pt_user> does anybody know what the problem with intel graphics cards is?
[13:13] <miansc> IdleOne: ill check it out
[13:13] <geekphreak> Curly_Q:  sounds nice?
[13:14] <IdleOne> miansc: there should be a section there on reinstalling
[13:14] <geekphreak> h3X^: nvidia card?
[13:14] <hellyeah> yes
[13:14] <hellyeah> i took minidjvu from repository pt_user
[13:14] <miansc> IdleOne:  im pretty sure i tryed it, but ill have a look
[13:14] <IdleOne> pt_user: what problem?
[13:14] <uLinux> IdleOne Mumble Egika teamspeak ;)
[13:14] <Curly_Q> It is very nice Geekphreak. It cost about $100.00 but you can port with a Windows software called:  Pinnacle to copy movies from your vid camera.
[13:14] <hellyeah> but i paste the error i have to convert jpg file into djvu format
[13:15] <Curly_Q> The software creates DVDs as well.
[13:15] <pt_user> IdleOne: i have a low-spec laptop with a GMA X3100 card, and ubuntu 10.04 performance is very sluggish with 3D accelerated graphics
[13:15] <jfb_h2o> !paste
[13:16] <pt_user> IdleOne: anything trying to use 3d hardware slows the computer down to a crawl
[13:16] <IdleOne> pt_user: how much RAM?
[13:16] <pt_user> IdleOne: 2GB
[13:16] <agronholm_> hi, is there any way to connect to a shared gnome session from a Windows box?
[13:16] <agronholm_> I mean, I can connect via vnc but I'm not getting any display updates
[13:16] <Curly_Q> Geekphreak, have you tried any Linux stuff that sounds like what I am explaining?
[13:16] <acicula> agronholm_: how do you mean display updates
[13:17] <geekphreak> Curly_Q: no
[13:17] <agronholm_> acicula, I have a still picture of the screen of how it was the moment I connected
[13:17] <pt_user> IdleOne: the gnome-shell desktop worked perfectly fine when i used 9.10, but in 10.04 it's extremely slow
[13:17] <agronholm_> I can move the mouse around and it's reflected on the actual screen but not through the remote desktop
[13:17] <acicula> agronholm_: across what kind of network are you connecting
[13:17] <Curly_Q> Basically, I was interested in Video Business Cards.
[13:17] <agronholm_> acicula, LAN
[13:17] <antonio_> ciao++
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[13:17] <FloodBot1> antonio_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <antonio_> ciao
[13:18] <tonibr> hallo
[13:18] <antonio_> amtutt
[13:18] <antonio_> sasa
[13:18] <antonio_> as
[13:18] <antonio_> as
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[13:18] <acicula> agronholm_: this repeats when you disconnect and reconnect?
[13:18] <FloodBot1> antonio_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <FloodBot1> antonio_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <agronholm_> acicula, yup, I can control the remote machine but the screen isn't updating over vnc at all
[13:19] <IdleOne> pt_user: seems to me that 2 gig of ram would be sufficient.
[13:19] <antonio_> ma vattlo    a prendre nel vulo++++
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[13:19] <FloodBot1> antonio_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <pt_user> IdleOne: it only happened now with 10.04, 9.10 did everything fine
[13:19] <tonibr> gerade wer online der schon erfahrungen beim wiederherstellen von daten einer formatierten ext3 partition gemacht hat? der installer von der live-cd 10.4 hat mir so eben meine homepartition formatiert....
[13:19] <SwedeMike>  !de | tonibr
[13:20] <IdleOne> pt_user: ask in #ubuntu+1 they might have more advice
[13:20] <Curly_Q> Geekphreak, have you heard about RCN and the Class Action Law Suit against them because RCN blocked P2P traffic?
[13:20] <pt_user> IdleOne: will ask there, thanks
[13:20] <SwedeMike> tonibr: but basically if it's formatted, it's hard to get data back in any sensible and easy way
[13:20] <Curly_Q> A Judge ordered RCN to pay back money to their customers.
[13:20] <agronholm_> acicula, I've never really gotten session sharing to work
[13:21] <IdleOne> !ot | Curly_Q
[13:21] <agronholm_> I'm using nvidia's proprietary display driver, could that be the cause?
[13:22] <acicula> agronholm_: its worth a try, cant really think of why it wont update in the first place, aside from a sluggish connection
[13:22] <Curly_Q> It is not Off Topic. Most of the problems that occur with port problems are due to IP blocking ports. Such as emails etc.
[13:22] <agronholm_> acicula, a sluggish connection would mean slow updates
[13:22] <agronholm_> but it's not updating at all
[13:22] <acicula> Curly_Q: take it to #networking, its offtopic here
[13:22] <acicula> agronholm_: yeh
[13:22] <agronholm_> and the mouse moves very smoothly on the real screen when I move it on the vnc window
[13:22] <IdleOne> Curly_Q: it is offtopic because it is not ubuntu support related. please join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss other topics
[13:23] <acicula> agronholm_: try a different viewer maybe?
[13:23] <agronholm_> I could, although that hasn't helped in the past
[13:23] <acicula> g2g, dead battery
[13:23] <agronholm_> anything you'd recommend?
[13:23] <agronholm_> ah
[13:25] <acio> hy
[13:25] <agronholm_> switched to a different viewer, still not getting any updates
[13:26] <JayX> anyone know where i can find a good proxy server?? Proxy Server IP Address! An American one I doing a lil project/experiment
[13:29] <\shade\> What's the package that includes the cmd tool 'ipv6'?
[13:29] <johndooe> хочу обновить ядро до версии v2.6.32.2
[13:29] <johndooe> объясните подробно как это сделать в ubuntu? или дайте ссылку на какое-нибудь руководство....
[13:29] <bazhang> !ru | johndooe
[13:29] <johndooe> I want to upgrade your kernel to version v2.6.32.2
[13:29] <johndooe> explain in detail how to do this in ubuntu? or give a link to some guidance ....
[13:30] <hutchit> hello everybody
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> !kernel | johndooe
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> johndooe:  i saw some tool to help install the latest kernel from source the other day.. but never tried it.. and theres PPA repos of newer kernels.
[13:32] <hutchit> i was wondering if anybody has any advice on how to deal with slow network and internet performance in Karmic
[13:32] <agronholm_> ok, remote desktop works fine with the nouveau driver
[13:33] <hutchit> i've looked at forums and followed all advice found, but nothing has worked thus far
[13:33] <Curly_Q> \shade\ What are you working with with Ipv6?
[13:33] <hutchit> ipv4 only
[13:33] <SwedeMike> hutchit: fault find it, find out what the problem really is. is it dns? is it tcp?
[13:33] <hutchit> ipv6 is set to "ignore" in the Network Manager
[13:33] <auska> hi!
[13:33] <hutchit> i use OpenDNS with all my computers
[13:34] <hutchit> i have a windows PC (XP), a Mac laptop, and this ubuntu laptop
[13:34] <red2kic> Consider upgrading to T1 connection.
[13:34] <uLinux> IdleOne so i've installed Mumble but it's not the latest stable version (this also happens with other applications). How do I update it?
[13:34] <hutchit> and only the Ubuntu laptop has slow performance... with the only exception being that every internet speed test comes out 100% normal
[13:34] <\shade\> Curly_Q: I'm using hurricane electric and it's telling me to add it via 'ipv6', however the command isn't found
[13:35] <hutchit> but when i use Update Manager, i get about one fifth of my download speed when nothing else is using bandwidth
[13:35] <auska> how can i resize a picture that i need to has as less as possible kb to upload it, by the console?
[13:35] <red2kic> hutchit: Dial-Up?
[13:35] <hutchit> no, i'm on ADSL 1.5Mbps down... and 500kbps up
[13:36] <uLinux> Guys, i installed Mumble but it's not the latest stable version (this also happens with other applications). How do I update it?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> auska:  the imagemagick package/tools can convert images  from the console
[13:36] <Curly_Q> \shade\ I don't know the answer to what you are looking for, but I am sure you will like this URL:   http://www.subnetonline.com/pages/subnet-calculators/ipv4-to-ipv6-converter.php
[13:36] <hutchit> i had Jaunty in this workstation before, and zero problems
[13:36] <_picAssO_> auska: any reason why you use the console?
[13:36] <uLinux> Do i need to add some line to sources.list»?
[13:36] <hutchit> upgraded to Karmic (clean-install) and boom
[13:36] <hutchit> and i have same problem at a relative's laptop after installing Karmic
[13:36] <red2kic> auska: pngcrush or optipng
[13:36] <auska> because i need to resize 50 picutres and i doesn't want to do it one by one
[13:37] <alberto> ispano.org
[13:38] <Curly_Q> Auska, what you are describing is called: "Batch Files
[13:39] <red2kic> Because I have 50 cars and I don't want to sell it one by one. Unfortunately that does not work that way. :|
[13:39] <JayX> how can i securly shred the files in my ubuntu trash bin?
[13:39] <hutchit> @Curly_Q: thanks for that info URL... i'll look at it
[13:39] <red2kic> !trash | JayX
[13:39] <red2kic> JayX: You could try and shred the path.
[13:39] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, your welcome.
[13:39] <JayX> red2kic,  how do I do that? I want to do a 35 pass secure shred!
[13:39] <JayX> gunman **
[13:39] <Curly_Q> Greets to Dr Willis.  :)
[13:40] <auska> Curly_Q, i was thinking in using a command like pngcrush *.jpg
[13:40] <red2kic> Jax: "man shred" will list endless options.
[13:40] <JayX> red2kic,  oh..... i hate terminal :(  im a  GUI person :P
[13:40] <acicula> agronholm_: vncviewer perhaps?
[13:40] <red2kic> auska: If it's for websites, png works best. If it's high-quality photos, jpg is nice.
[13:41] <auska> aha its for websites ...
[13:41] <Curly_Q> Auska, I use a similar program in Windows called:   IrfanView It does more than you could ever want. If you dual boot, try giving it a whirl. It is a free software.
[13:41] <red2kic> auska: You can convert or mogrify images. Might even shave down couple of kbs.
[13:42] <red2kic> Then optimize/crunch the images.
[13:42] <acicula> JayX: why do you need such a type of erase, unless you are hiding state secrets or hiding from overwriting the free disk space a few times makes conventil file recovery already pretty hard. that said there are some secure erase tools for *unix(google secure erase ubuuntu)
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> irfanview  = a must have on windows. :)
[13:42] <linxeh> irfanview != free
[13:42] <red2kic> JayX: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_shred.htm (MANUAL IN GNU BROWSER)
[13:43] <linxeh> and it is only "free as in beer" for restricted uses
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> so what...
[13:43] <linxeh> Curly_Q said it was free
[13:44] <red2kic> Adobe Flash Plugin is free too. :)
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> and your definition of 'free' differs..
[13:44] <JayX> acicula,  :D well i want to sell my HDD in a few months, .. but when im ready to sell i will also do a simple 3pass DBAN (Derick Boot nd Nuke)
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> so what.. its 'freeware'
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> and OT i imagine.
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> and it does work in Wine. :)
[13:44] <linxeh> and typically people creating websites to sell cars are doing it commercially, which means it isnt "free as in beer" for him
[13:44] <JayX> acicula,  dont want my information to fall into the wrong hands :P..
[13:44] <red2kic> JayX: Darik :)
[13:44] <acicula> JayX: if you are that worried then just dont sell your disk
[13:45] <JayX> acicula,  well is these people in my neighbour hood see how many computers i have, it might just get stolen instead of sold
[13:45] <JayX> red2kic, yea that dude's name
[13:45] <acicula> JayX: then you dont need secure erease, then you need an encrytped disk and abig bad dobermann
[13:45] <hutchit> @Curly_Q: would you suggest i enable ipv6 (or... change it from the current "ignore" setting). I am thinking that my ISP doesn't use ipv6 yet.
[13:46] <red2kic> JayX: I would imagine they'll try to look at whatever they can find... but not scanning the hard drives and recover whatever and copies them. They're just going to plug the hard drive in and see what shows up in Windows.
[13:46] <JayX> acicula, .. does it make much of a difference?  encrypting the disk means i need to enter a password every time i want to access a certain folder?
[13:46] <harjot> whats an easy language to learn that has a good interface?
[13:47] <red2kic> JayX: No. The whole partition would be encrypted and you only have to type password every time you turn on the machine.
[13:47] <harjot> Is there anything like vb for ubuntu?
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> harjot:  go learn Python.,
[13:47] <harjot> python...
[13:47] <acicula> JayX: encrypting a disk means you need to unlock the data before you can view it, just erasing an unencrypted disk hopes you erase well enough
[13:47] <JayX> Haraken,  English XD ....... i would try Python
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> harjot:  forget about VisualBasic and its clones like 'gambas'
[13:47] <harjot> I know]
[13:47] <harjot> gambas
[13:47] <agronholm_> acicula, tried tightvnc and realvnc
[13:47] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, I cannot answer that directly but I suggest you log into your IP homesite and see what they provide. Not only that, If you do in Windows an ipconfig /all you will see if your IP is using IPv6. Also in Linux do a ifconfig -all and see what your IP is using.
[13:47] <miansc> whats a GRUB alternative?? i hate grub :)
[13:47] <acicula> agronholm_: then i dont know :/
[13:47] <harjot> Dr_Willis: im trying to make a quick launcher sort of app, whats the best way?
[13:47] <agronholm_> acicula, works with nouveau driver like I said
[13:47] <red2kic> miansc: lilo
[13:48] <agronholm_> but not with nvidia proprietary
[13:48] <acicula> agronholm_: yay for binary drivers :(
[13:48] <JayX> red2kic, acicula  Ohh..... encrypting disk sounds good...
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> harjot:   just a window with some buttons? about anything can do that. even bash and zenity
[13:48] <harjot> Dr_Willis: yup
[13:48] <JayX> red2kic, acicula  can u encrypt the disk and have a dual boot?
[13:48] <miansc> red2kic: k, thanks, how can i install that?
[13:48] <harjot> Dr_Willis: Nothing compilcated
[13:48] <harjot> Dr_Willis: how can bash do that?
[13:48] <JayX> red2kic, acicula  Win 7 and Ubuntu 10.04
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> harjot:  with a 'dialog' front end.
[13:48] <acicula> JayX: yeah
[13:48] <Yesso> Hey guys i bought this portable game system called a Dingoo, when i plug it in; ubuntu doesn't recognize it or show it in usb, or mount it. I tried finding it in gparted and it's not their either, i even reformatted it as fat32 like the guide said and still nothing. help?
[13:48] <harjot> Dr_Willis: hmmm.. i have a lot to learn
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> harjot:  there used to be several of them. ive not used any in ages
[13:48] <The-Druid_> does anyone here is having problems with the update manager?
[13:49] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, otherwise, Ipv6 is not that popular right now and it is in its experimental stage. Due to the over-demand for IP addresses.
[13:49] <The-Druid_> it looks like mine hasn't got something to download for weeks, even the 10.04 beta
[13:49] <dmarkey> is it possible to run the livecd, but to store the changes somewhere on the local hard disk
[13:50] <Yesso> Hey guys i bought this portable game system called a Dingoo, when i plug it in; ubuntu doesn't recognize it or show it in usb, or mount it. I tried finding it in gparted and it's not their either, i even reformatted it as fat32 like the guide said and still nothing. help? It had an internel 4gb memory btw
[13:50] <red2kic> !lilo | miansc
[13:50] <_picAssO_> anyone around who knows how to reatach all sessions in "screen"?
[13:50] <red2kic> miansc: You were looking for alternative. How irony. :-P
[13:50] <acicula> _picAssO_: screen -r or -x
[13:50] <miansc> cheers
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> harjot:  perhaps --> http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/265/a-complete-zenity-dialog-examples-2/
[13:50] <acicula> lilo is way worse then grub
[13:50] <miansc> red2kic: how so?
[13:50] <_picAssO_> acicula: tanks
[13:50] <Yesso> Hey guys i bought this portable game system called a Dingoo, when i plug it in; ubuntu doesn't recognize it or show it in usb, or mount it. I tried finding it in gparted and it's not their either, i even reformatted it as fat32 like the guide said and still nothing. help? It had an internel 4gb memory btw
[13:50] <acicula> Hey yesso dont spam
[13:51] <Yesso> :/
[13:51] <miansc> red2kic:  Ohhhh! haha
[13:51] <harjot> Dr_Willis: ok i will see
[13:51] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, unless you fully understand Ipv6, I would just disable it for now and you can always change it to something else later.
[13:51] <hutchit> @Curly_Q: my 3 machines are behind a router here at home... but i have no access to the router because the ADSL company here doesn't give me login access to change settings.
[13:51] <red2kic> JayX: I imagine you could use truecrypt too. I have 20GB HDD (for encrypted /) and 300GB HDD (for encrypted /home). I'm not sure how to dual-boot.
[13:51] <acicula> Yesso: you can check if it is detected by typing lsusb or looking at dmesg output
[13:52] <red2kic> JayX: Also, I know TrueCrypt do offer full system encryption. It's just easier / cheaper to get another hard drives.
[13:52] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, does your router support Ipv6?  Is it your personal router?
[13:52] <mylisto> argh...
[13:52] <ravenkhan> hi
[13:52] <acicula> i just use the ubuntu default /home loopback encryption
[13:52] <harjot> Dr_Willis: zenity looks promising'
[13:52] <hutchit> i am fairly certain that ipv6 isn't used by the ISP
[13:52] <mylisto> Trying to get sound working on my system...driving me nuts!
[13:52] <_picAssO_> acicula: sorry, but if i have more than one detached sessions, it does not seem to work
[13:52] <acicula> _picAssO_: add the pid
[13:52] <jfb> what is a 'clean' way to install all software installed without using apt or aptitude, i.e. manually installed?
[13:53] <ravenkhan> hello
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> harjot:  yea. i dont see one that can do a set of buttons.. but that document is a bit old,  Cgheck the zenity docs it may have more features now
[13:53] <hutchit> and the ADSL box is also the router... all provided by the DSL company, but i have no login access, and to get them to change it means getting an appointment, which takes days
[13:53] <JayX> red2kic,  well I got  2x1TB SATA HDD, and oen 250GB IDE/PATA HDD
[13:53] <miansc> red2kic: i cant get grub to load windows... now ubuntu i need serious help
[13:53] <jfb> correction, clean way to UNINSTALL
[13:53] <hutchit> so for now, the Karmic Network Manager has ipv6 as "ignore"
[13:53] <_picAssO_> acicula: i would to reatach all of them at the same time; do i really have to add all pids?
[13:53] <acicula> jfb: your question does not make sense
[13:53] <acicula> _picAssO_: you can only attach to one screen per pty/tty
[13:53] <jfb> acicula, I've installed a bunch of stuff manually over the year...
[13:54] <acicula> jfb: a make uninstall if the src directory is still there
[13:54] <mynewusername> hey all
[13:54] <Curly_Q> Hutchit work with that adjustment for now and do some more homework on the subject.
[13:54] <jfb> I don't necessary know where it all is, as a lot was just testing...
[13:54] <JayX> red2kic, acicula  BTW that reminds me of a question i had asked ealier on the forums... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1347488  << Answer is still unclear to me
[13:54] <zicho> what is "phy0"?
[13:54] <VCoolio> jfb: depends on how you installed; with 'sudo make install' you'll need to enter the source folder and do 'sudo make uninstall' if it has the rules for it
[13:54] <red2kic> JayX: Consider buying a smallest HDD you can find (for system core) and the rest? Media. :)
[13:54] <acicula> jfb: otherwise make a list of all the files on the disk and crossreference against the files in the apt db, enjoy ;)
[13:54] <daniskami> jfb: did you compile from source or .deb packages?
[13:54] <hutchit> and none of the remaining 2 machines get any ipv6 addresses from the ADSL router when i query the network TCP/IP settings
[13:54] <jfb> danielck, mostly compiled from source
[13:54] <_picAssO_> acicula: then i have understood something wrong: can "ctrl-a-space" flip through detached sessions?
[13:54] <red2kic> !fixgrub | miansc
[13:55] <hutchit> alright. I'll keep searching for more. Thanks, Curly_Q.
[13:55] <red2kic> miansc: you can seek support in #grub too. Meanwhile, look at the links.
[13:55] <daniskami> jfb: if from source, consider 'checkinstall' in the future, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[13:55] <miansc> red2kic: tryed that man... still no luck
[13:55] <miansc> ohhh k cheers
[13:55] <harjot> Dr_Willis: yeah im looking for multiple buttons
[13:55] <hutchit> i am just baffled that in Jaunty this didn't exist... and there have been no hardware changes in the machine
[13:55] <jfb> danielck, acicula  thanks...
[13:55] <VCoolio> jfb: I'd say do a clean install next week with lucid and use checkinstall from now on to install manually
[13:55] <jfb> VCoolio, that's exactly what I'm thinking!
[13:55] <acicula> _picAssO_: if you have a screen that has multiple windows yeah
[13:56] <daniskami> jfb: because checkinstall wraps the files from 'make install' into packages
[13:56] <_picAssO_> acicula: ah, thanks
[13:56] <hutchit> fortunately Lucid is coming shortly, so i will also try upgrading to it to see if i get different performance
[13:56] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, I have an internship at a CISCO Network Academy. When we program the routers, it specifies that it is either Ipv4 or Ipv6. So the router and switches will determine that. Stick with Ipv4 for now.
[13:56] <alzamabar> Hi, my shutdown window just appeared although I haven't requested a shutdown. Any ideas?
[13:56]  * jfb is reading about checkinstall
[13:56] <hutchit> i will follow your advice and not tinker with ipv6, Curly_Q. Thanks
[13:56] <anderson> Anyone from Brazil using Lucid?
[13:56] <acicula> jfb: you can also make deb packages from source stuff
[13:57] <acicula> !br
[13:57] <acicula> makes tracking what you install easier
[13:57] <red-red|wine> y0
[13:57] <anderson> Thanks, dude!
[13:57] <mynewusername> why is configuring sound so damn hard on ubuntu?
[13:57] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, your welcome. If you see me here and find something else you would like to share with me, please do.
[13:58] <acicula> mynewusername: its not, can you formulate it as a support question? what have you tried, what did you expect it to do, what happened instead?
[13:58] <alzamabar> ** HELP **  Hi, my shutdown window just appeared although I haven't requested a shutdown. Any ideas?
[13:58] <jfb> acicula, so build a package from the source, then use aptitude to install it?
[13:58] <acicula> alzamabar: just click on cancel?
[13:58] <harjot> Dr_Willis: im not sure zenity can do multiple buttons, anything else?
[13:58] <mynewusername> acicula: to get my headphones to work I need to use my usb headset (on board jacks are busted)...
[13:59] <acicula> jfb: build a package from source into a deb package, then use dpkg to install the debpacakge
[13:59] <alzamabar> acicula, yes I've done that, but I'd like to know why the window appeared if I haven't asked for it
[13:59] <zee> u might have configured a shortcut or sth
[13:59] <mynewusername> what is the best sound system to use?
[13:59] <acicula> alzamabar: maybe because an update that was performed requires a reboot, pressing a power button, etc
[13:59] <mynewusername> oss/alsa or pulse audio?
[14:00] <hutchit> oh, Curly_Q... i just remembered another thing. I did this clean install of Karmic here with the Minimal CD... so the installer naturally had to download everything from the internet, and it did that at my full internet bandwidth.
[14:00] <jfb> acicula, from reading the check install page, sounds kind of like what it does...
[14:00] <harjot> Dr_Willis: will dialog do it?
[14:00] <alzamabar> acicula I haven't performed any updates. I just hope I haven't got a security issue here
[14:00] <jfb> acicula, especially if joined with auto-apt.
[14:00] <zicho> what is "phy0"?
[14:00] <hutchit> so i don't know why network bandwidth now would be different... but i'll keep investigating.
[14:00] <rodox> In xfce, howto disconnetc ppp0? I tried: sudo ifdown ppp0 / Ignoring unknown interface ppp0=ppp0. - In connection properties ppp0, the applet show activities for this interface
[14:01] <JayX> red2kic,  I want to give up Window
[14:01] <Curly_Q> Hutchit if you are trying to figure out your bandwidth, check out Http://www.dslreports.com
[14:01] <JayX> windows*
[14:01] <acicula> jfb: checkinstall doesnt make debs on its own i think but yeah
[14:01] <jfb> acicula, no that's true... in fact, it specifically does state that at the top of the page...
[14:01] <alzamabar> JayX, good decision :-)
[14:01] <daniskami> the point of checkinstall is that you can easily remove the package using 'dpkg' later
[14:01] <hutchit> my bandwidth speed tests come consistent with this machine as with the other systems in my home... which is ironic
[14:01] <jfb> acicula, but it sure seems like an easy solution...
[14:02] <jfb> I've never built a package, so I'll have to investigate how many steps that takes
[14:02] <hutchit> because the speed tests come out alright... (tests done with no other load on the bandwidth)
[14:02] <acicula> alzamabar: i dont know
[14:02] <JayX> red2kic,  should i install Win7  as a VM(to force myself to learn Ubuntu) or should i install Ubuntu as a VM on Win7?  alzamabar
[14:02] <mynewusername> acicula: give me a few to try to explain this bs
[14:02] <hutchit> but when i try to download / upload, then i have slow performance.
[14:02]  * jfb goes to read about Ubuntu packageing
[14:02] <VCoolio> jfb: checkinstall is quite easy; just be prepared to answer question like what version of the app you're installing and give a description etc, nothing difficult
[14:03] <hutchit> at first i thought it would be firefox, but the problem exists also when performing ubuntu software updates using either the command line or Update Manager
[14:03] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, http://www.dslreports.com will show which Internet Provider has the fastest and best bandwidth and you can test your speed on that site.
[14:03] <sebsebseb> JayX: If you want to 3D Windows game for example then you probably still need a dual boot really.  If not sure Windows 7 in a vm should work fine for most apps.
[14:03] <daniskami> jfb: if it's all on your computer and you don't need to distribute packages, checkinstall is good enough
[14:03] <uLinux> ei how do i delete residual config'
[14:03] <uLinux> ?
[14:03] <jfb> VCoolio, can it be used for a binary distribution?
[14:03] <alzamabar> JayX, it depends what use you do of your OS. Windows is more media oriented and it has a vast userbase, therefore lots of drivers for all the little technological gadgets. Ubuntu it's just faster, better especially if you are using it for development, hosting, etc
[14:04] <VCoolio> jfb: a what? no clue there
[14:04] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, keep in mind as well that not all networks work at the same bandwidth and latency. Heavy network traffic is a factor too.
[14:04] <jfb> well, a file that's already built from source specifically for my hardware... (ie, like a .bin file)
[14:05] <uLinux> status :)
[14:05] <alzamabar> JayX for instance, media in Windows through a VM is slow (e.g. iTunes movies). Currently that is the only time I switch dual boot to Windows
[14:05] <JayX> alzamabar, ohh ok.
[14:05] <sebsebseb> JayX: Windows virtual machines tend to work well
[14:05] <sebsebseb> JayX: for most stuff
[14:05] <VCoolio> jfb: just put those in $PATH, hardly worth the effort the keep track of them; no files cluttered all over the disk, right?
[14:05] <sebsebseb> JayX: and yes you can  play music and video in a virtual machine, and it shoudn't be much of an issue if at all. and Itunes is pretty sucky
[14:06] <jfb> VCoolio, okay... just trying to get used to 'best practices'
[14:06] <JayX> alzamabar,  ok well i guess i will make Ubuntu a VM on my windows 7 ,machine, that way i cal play and learn it without messing up my system :D
[14:06] <sebsebseb> JayX: you can also play most multimedia files, MP3, AVI and what not in Ubuntu, once the codecs have been installed
[14:06] <jfb> VCoolio, I usually dump anything I don't find a package for in /opt
[14:06] <rodox> I use 3g modem and don't know how to disconnect
[14:06] <hutchit> i agree, Curly_Q. I have tried different ubuntu mirrors, and even selecting the "best" ubuntu mirror based on the test of all of them that Software Sources allows for. Same results.
[14:06] <jfb> and the build into /usr/local/bin
[14:06] <sebsebseb> JayX:  it's better to dual boot,  Ubuntu and Windows 7,  than run Ubuntu inside Windows 7 in a vm
[14:06] <uLinux> Guys, i installed Mumble but it's not the latest stable version (this also happens with other applications). How do I update it?
[14:07] <VCoolio> jfb: that's cool; the default for 'make install' is /usr/local instead of /usr, so that helps too
[14:07] <sebsebseb> JayX: maybe for some quick trying Ubuntu in Windows 7 in a vm, other than that though, I woudn't recommend it at all.  makes more sense to have Windows 7 inside the much more secure Ubuntu OS.
[14:07] <JayX> sebsebseb,  ok well i had that as n idea.. ben seeking info in this forumn post i made, about RAID and dual botting >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1347488
[14:08] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | JayX
[14:08] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, when understanding networking, sending a ping is 32 hops. The networks look for the best path from source to destination. If any destination point is slow, then your bandwidth will be slow.
[14:08] <uLinux> I installed Mumble but it's not the latest stable version (this also happens with other applications). How do I update it?
[14:08] <JayX> sebseb, but the answer is still unclear on the raid.. i know how to dual boot,  i got a Dual boot machine now... Win7 and Ubuntu 9.10
[14:09] <JayX> sebsebseb,  ~~^^
[14:09] <acicula> uLinux: wait for a new revision of ubuntu or look on the mumble site for newer debs
[14:09] <felon> i was duelbooting also
[14:09] <sebsebseb> JayX: I don't use RAID, but  I think doing a dual boot RAID, is probably similar like on a non RAID PC
[14:09] <felon> but then i wiped windows off and stuck wit ubuntu
[14:09] <uLinux> acicula Can't I update it with synaptic?
[14:09] <acicula> uLinux: if mumble provides a repository for karmic then you can
[14:10] <VCoolio> uLinux: maybe there is a repository containing newer builds; check on launchpad.net
[14:10] <mede> I can't install hp scanjet 3670 on linux, help!!!!
[14:10] <mynewusername> acicula: god this is driving me friggin nuts!
[14:10] <sebsebseb> JayX: also I woudn't normally recommend Wubi, but that's useualy ok really for some quick trying or short term Ubuntu useage.
[14:10] <sebsebseb> !wubi > JayX
[14:10] <acicula> uLinux: ubuntu standard repositories focus on providin security updates and switch to new revisions every 6 months
[14:10] <mynewusername> I just want to be able to use my gigaware usb headset to listen to music on my ubuntu machine
[14:11] <acicula> mynewusername: mind your language
[14:11] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, an example, if you PING 127.0.0.1  you will see a TTL  ( Time To Live ) perhaps 128 mili-seconds. If you PING any destination you can see what the TTL time is.
[14:11] <JayX> sebsebseb,  yea i used wubi on my netbook,  WinXP and Karmic Netbookremix
[14:11] <acicula> mynewusername: you have an on board sound card thats not working properly and want to use an usb based soundcard with headset instead?
[14:11] <hutchit> i agree with you, Curly_Q
[14:11] <mynewusername> sorry...just agro
[14:11] <mynewusername> yeah, the onboard jacks are busted
[14:12] <mynewusername> somehow the usb headset was working yesterday...and it was also able to pass sound to my xp installation on virtual box
[14:12] <hutchit> in all that i've searched, i find a lot of postings on people experiencing similar symptoms to mine
[14:12] <ownpown> hi
[14:12] <alien260> mede: According to this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87942 ur scanner isnt supported .. but that 2007 ..
[14:13] <acicula> mynewusername: have a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=402293
[14:13] <acicula> mynewusername: probably its just defaulting to your onboard and you need to switch that
[14:13] <hutchit> i just did a test with DSLreports and got average (normal) readings for my bandwidth
[14:13] <mede> ok I'll look
[14:13] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, it is just a matter of finding the right sources of information. It takes a lot of time and effort.
[14:13] <hutchit> approx 1.2Mbps down - 480kbps up
[14:13] <mynewusername> acicula: how do I do that?
[14:14] <acicula> look at the thread
[14:14] <acicula> 2~I can use the usb sound card by going to system-->preferences-->sound and then selecting "USB Audio"
[14:14] <hutchit> no doubt about that. i've been at this for nearly 3 months
[14:15] <hutchit> i've resisted going back to Jaunty because i like the features of Karmic, but the slow bandwidth to everything on the internet (except for speed tests, which is the only thing that shows normal performance) is awful
[14:15] <Curly_Q> Hutchit, keep in mind that Ipv6 does not change your bandwidth. It is just a different dot decimal system for IP addresses.
[14:15] <acicula> hutchit: are you speedtesting while hooked directly into the dsl modem or via hub/switch/wireless?
[14:16] <VirusTB> is there an Linux alternative to the windows "LogMeIn"  .. just incase i feel like retrieving a file from my desktop when im not at home
[14:16] <sebsebseb> hutchit: well as I already saw you mention, Lucid is coming out soon.  Do a clean install I guess, and good luck iwth that.
[14:16] <hutchit> well, thus far i've stayed with ipv4 in all the machines, because i'm not at all well informed on using ipv6
[14:16] <hutchit> i'm speed-testing directly hooked to the ADSL modem
[14:16] <CloudLevi> Sooo...anyone know how I can remove whatever firewall Linux has (TEMP) so I can get the SC2 updates installed in a realistic amount of time???
[14:16] <sebsebseb> hutchit: or try another distro if you want, loads to choose from http://www.distrowatch.com
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> CloudLevi:  sudo iptables --flush
[14:16] <hutchit> i am banking on that fact... that Lucid will be my redemption. :-)
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> CloudLevi:  thats IF theres any actual firewall setup. Theres none by default
[14:17] <hutchit> actually, other distros work without a problem (below Karmic)
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> CloudLevi:  use sudo iptables --list to see if theres any rules
[14:17] <hutchit> even the LiveCDs of other distros have no problems with bandwidth
[14:18] <sebsebseb> hutchit: below Karmic is other versions of Ubuntu,  not other Linux distros
[14:18] <hutchit> i've tried DamnSmallLinux, Clonezilla, SystemRescueCD, Xubuntu, Linux Mint
[14:18] <CloudLevi> Dr_Willis: This bring up a console? Need to bring it back up after
[14:18] <uLinux> I uninstalled TeamSpeak but .teamspeak2 folder still exists. Can I remove it? Why doesn't Ubuntu automatically delete it?
[14:18] <jfb> VCoolio, acicula is there a way to revert to a 'fresh' install, I've added a few packages from repositories, but I want to do it again... being a little more organized ;)
[14:18] <hutchit> and within the Ubuntu family, anything below Karmic works normally
[14:18] <mustafa> is there any virus that affects ubuntu?
[14:18] <hutchit> i've also tried Slax... no problems there
[14:19] <mustafa> do you know?
[14:19] <sebsebseb> !virus | mustafa
[14:19] <coz_> mustafa,  not that I am aware of at the moment
[14:19] <jfb> I just discovered the science-* meta packages, so I figure I should start with those...
[14:19] <coz_> mustafa,  there many linux viruses  but as far as I know they are not found on linux desktops
[14:19] <CloudLevi> ugh x_X I'll deal with this later
[14:19] <CloudLevi> se ya
[14:20] <coz_> mustafa,  so at least for a few more years ... you are safe with ubuntu :)
[14:20] <hutchit> well, i've got to go. Thanks again for the info / advice, Curly_Q
[14:20] <uLinux> I uninstalled TeamSpeak but .teamspeak2 folder still exists. Can I remove it? Why doesn't Ubuntu automatically delete it?
[14:20] <sebsebseb> hutchit: well there you go then,  issue in Lucid as well,  I guess find yourself another distro to use,  or get your issue fixed some how maybe.   Unless you want to downgrade to 9.04  which runs out of support this October. Or if you want to downgrade all the way back to 8.04 which runs out of support next year.
[14:20] <nand`> Is there an extra .iso or download for doing an ubuntu minimal install, or how do I install it off the regular DVD, in which case how exactly do I do it?
[14:21] <Curly_Q> Your welcome Hutchit. Come back and chat with me again.
[14:21] <coz_> uLinux,  if the executable is gone you can safely remove that directory
[14:21] <erUSUL> !minimal | nand`
[14:21] <uLinux> How do I make to delete app folders when I uinstall a n app?
[14:21] <hutchit> i'll keep looking and trying different things... and maybe, just maybe will have to settle for Hardy, for the extended support, as you put it
[14:21] <erUSUL> uLinux: the packge manager takes cre of that
[14:21] <hutchit> have a good one everybody!
[14:21] <erUSUL> uLinux: the package manager takes care of that
[14:21] <nand`> erUSUL: thank you
[14:21] <uLinux> erUSUL it didnt delete the .teamspeak2 folder
[14:21] <Curly_Q> ;)
[14:21] <iceroot> uLinux: apt-get remove --purge  to remove everything the program is creating (not in ~)
[14:22] <uLinux> and i ran residual config cleanup
[14:22] <sebsebseb> hutchit: except that only seems to have untill April next year, so not much point
[14:22] <coz_> uLinux,   you should be able to right click and delete or move to trash  or   open a terminal   cd  to that location and do   rm -rf  name of folder
[14:22] <sebsebseb> harjot: on the desktop since three years of  support for the desktop
[14:22] <coz_> uLinux,  that would be    sudo   rm -rf  nameof directory
[14:22] <uLinux> coz_ yes but why doesnt ubuntu delete it automatically when I removed it?
[14:23] <coz_> uLinux,  well I noticed that in the home directory  some configuration files may be left over from an uninstall
[14:23] <uLinux> yes
[14:23] <iceroot> uLinux: because you are using it "wrong" witouht --purge apt-get is not removing conffiles
[14:23] <tzanger> morning. Is there a quick dbus command or something I can run to tell NetworkManager that yes, I am connected to the internet, just not through one of its managed interfaces?
[14:23] <uLinux> iceroot I used ubuntu software center to uninstall it
[14:23] <tzanger> I'm connected through my cell phone (bnep0) but networkmanager doesn't know about it, and apps that check if the network is connected don't even try to work
[14:23] <tzanger> but things like chrome and ssh work fine
[14:23] <iceroot> uLinux: there should be also the option for purge
[14:24] <uLinux> iceroot  just a Remove button
[14:24] <harjot> sebsebseb: ?
[14:24] <iceroot> uLinux: hm, dont know, i never use a gui for sotware-management
[14:24] <uLinux> :P
[14:24] <yofel> software center can't purge packages, use synaptic for that
[14:25] <uLinux> oh
[14:25] <iceroot> uLinux: or use apt-get directly
[14:25] <uLinux> "sudo apt-get remove --purge"
[14:25] <iceroot> uLinux: + packagename
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> rember that purging will not get rid of user configs. :)
[14:26] <uLinux> "sudo apt-get remove --purge teamspeak"
[14:26] <uLinux> Dr_Willis  yes but synaptic take care of it too
[14:26] <uLinux> :P
[14:26] <iceroot> uLinux: i guess its called teamspeak-client and teamspeak-server
[14:26] <uLinux> ye
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  err not  configs in the users home dirs.. it wont..
[14:27] <iceroot> uLinux: its only removing conffiles which are created with postinst, rules and so on, nothing you created by starting the program like configs in the home-dir
[14:27] <uLinux> i just a command so it deletes the application folder
[14:28] <uLinux> automatically
[14:28] <uLinux> i can move it to trash
[14:28] <C_h0use> Has anyone noticed if 10.04 has lost some support for usb wifi adapter's?
[14:28] <iceroot> C_h0use: #ubuntu+1
[14:29] <uLinux> Dr_Willis  iceroot so software center uses purge... it's the same thing
[14:29] <uLinux> because it's already deleted and didnt delete config files
[14:29] <iceroot> uLinux: i told you already what purge is doing
[14:29] <uLinux> ok iceroot
[14:29] <uLinux> u just dont use gui :P
[14:30] <uLinux> So the only way to remove EVERYTHING related with the application it's by deleting the folder/config manually
[14:31] <uLinux> btw can you tell me what's folder containing default wallpapers?
[14:32] <delac> any thoughts why: "sudo pkill -9 -u USERNAME PROCESSNAME" has no effect while sudo kill PID works?
[14:33] <uLinux> found it.
[14:33] <uLinux> /usr/share/backgrounds/
[14:33] <alien260> delac: just use kill -9 PROCESSNAME
[14:34] <delac> alien260: i'd like to kill the processes only for certain user
[14:34] <dn5> hi to all
[14:34] <delac> alien260: and does processname work with kill?
[14:35] <dn5> anyone know how to see process running over terminal?
[14:35] <Curly_Q> Dn5      top
[14:35] <dn5> Curly_Q thanks :)
[14:35] <erUSUL> dn5: ps aux
[14:35] <alien260> delac: I think it would be kill -9 -u Userid PROCESSNAME
[14:36] <alien260> delac: else why not use top or htop (if u have it installed)
[14:37] <delac> alien260: well kill doesnt seem to understand PROCESSNAMES. only pkill can do that
[14:37] <G_A_C> delac: killall uses process names, then kills all PIDs matching that name. kill can only use PIDs as otherwise it has no way of distinguishing between multiple processes with the same name
[14:37] <erUSUL> delac: "pkill processname"
[14:37] <alien260> delac: my bad i mean process ID .. u can find the id by using top
[14:38] <delac> I need to kill several processes of same name
[14:38] <delac> for certain user
[14:38] <delac> any thoughts why: "sudo pkill -9 -u USERNAME PROCESSNAME" has no effect while sudo kill PID works?
[14:40] <uLinux> To make a wallpaper show in Wallpapers list how can I do it..
[14:40] <uLinux> ?
[14:40] <uLinux> i cant copy the image to backgrounds folder
[14:40] <uLinux> maybe it's im not root
[14:40] <erUSUL> uLinux: use sudo ? (if it is a system folder)
[14:40] <Curly_Q> Delac, if I may use the illustration: Using a hand gun will find its direct target which is the sudo pkill -9 USERNAME PROCESSNAME but using a shotgun will get them all such as sudo kill PID.
[14:41] <chrometiger> has anyone got the World Of Warcraft Steelseries mouse to work on ubuntu ?     or know how to set the 17 buttons on it for WoW
[14:42] <delac> Curly_Q: don't you mean the other way around?
[14:42] <psycho_oreos> -9 is probably one of the highest execution an user can do when terminating a task, usually kill/pkill would issue something else apart from -9
[14:42] <H-carpediem-2010> this channel is official ubuntu, but... i need a serial number of adobe cs5 master extended edition...
[14:42] <H-carpediem-2010> ... i no espeack a good inglish!
[14:42] <jumbers> !piracy | H-carpediem-2010
[14:42] <H-carpediem-2010> im from Brasil! what is chaneel hel-pme?
[14:42] <delac> psycho_oreos: yes, and i dont really need it, but nothing seems to kill the processes with pkill
[14:43] <bazhang> H-carpediem-2010, that is offtopic on this channel and this network. Please don't ask again
[14:43] <jumbers> H-carpediem-2010: Nobody is going to help you pirate software
[14:43] <H-carpediem-2010> bazhang: ok
[14:43] <H-carpediem-2010> !guedelines
[14:43] <H-carpediem-2010> !040
[14:43] <H-carpediem-2010> tx
[14:43] <psycho_oreos> delac, well I'd resort to -9 last where possible
[14:44] <tenmiles> chrometiger: i use xmodmap, xdotool, and xbindkeys to get my g5 mouse buttons working. I'm fairly certain you don't need all of those, but in there somewhere should be your solution
[14:44] <crazyman> how to exit the chat-room?
[14:44] <delac> psycho_oreos: yes, but using the command "sudo pkill -u USERNAME PROCESSNAME" will also do nothing
[14:44] <H-carpediem-2010> ¶:(~~
[14:44] <tenmiles> chrometiger: and xev will show you what the buttons are called when you press them
[14:44] <jumbers> crazyman: Usually /quit
[14:45] <Buhmillion> hey guys, how do i change the resolution of the startup screen?
[14:45] <psycho_oreos> delac, well I hardly use pkill much, I use kill myself and if I were to try and resolve pid names I'd enclose it in pidof
[14:45] <chrometiger> k thanks thats at least one step closer
[14:45] <crazyman> use /quit will close the connect
[14:46] <Buhmillion> hey guys, how do i change the resolution of the startup screen?
[14:46] <jumbers> crazyman: You just want to close the one channel? Then use /part
[14:46] <Curly_Q> Delac, check this URL:   http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kill-a-process-by-process-name-from-ubuntu-command-line/
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> Buhmillion:  you mean the GDM LOGIN screen? or the grub menu screen>
[14:46] <crazyman> yes ,thank you
[14:47] <Buhmillion> neither, the purple screen (in lucid) that says ubuntu with the dots
[14:48] <kasun> hello,
[14:49] <stijn> Buhmillion, if you have an nvidia card you can forget it, i tried and i ended up with plymouth totally screwed up
[14:49] <Buhmillion> darn it, i have the 240
[14:49] <stijn> yeah i have nvidia to
[14:49] <delac> psycho_oreos: pidof seemd like good idea, but it lacks the user selection...
[14:49] <Buhmillion> but, it was working at the correct resolution until i installed nvidia drivers
[14:50] <psycho_oreos> delac, well yes, I'm a bit old fashioned, in that case I would have hacked up a simple one liner with awk
[14:50] <stijn> seems that nvidia and plymouth are not to best buddy's, ubuntu startup screen was good after install but once i activated nvidia drivers it went to a low resolution
[14:51] <Buhmillion> me too. And since i have the partition encrypted, i stay on that screen for a while, and want it to look pretty
[14:51] <delac> psycho_oreos: :) i'd like to have something i can remeber
[14:51] <stijn> you could try to fiddle with it but be warned, i had to reinstall ubunut because i made a real mess of it. In the end the screen was gone and booting took 5mins :-))
[14:52] <Buhmillion> ohh, well i just made a pretty skiddie edit using startup-manager, lets see how it goes
[14:53] <alessandro_> Hello, guys. Ther's any italian?
[14:53] <alessandro_> (I'm italian and i've got a problem)
[14:53] <venu> i have one doubt "is there any alternative software for mp3compressor in ubuntu"
[14:53] <alien260> alessandro_: #ubuntu-it
[14:54] <alessandro_> ok, thx
[14:55] <delac> HA! ok, the problem seemed to be the fact that the processname i was trying to kill contained '-' and pkill didn't like that...
[14:55] <psycho_oreos> delac, maybe sudo pkill -KILLSPEC -u USERNAME PROCESS_NAME ?
[14:55] <delac> psycho_oreos: got it allready... :)
[14:56] <delac> psycho_oreos: HA! ok, the problem seemed to be the fact that the processname i was trying to kill contained '-' and pkill didn't like that...
[14:56] <psycho_oreos> delac, meh in that case you'll need to kill it by the numbers
[14:56] <psycho_oreos> delac, yes I just saw that
[14:56] <delac> psycho_oreos: well. striping the processname down to the part that didnt contain the '-' did the trick. pkill can handle partial processnames
[14:57] <Buhmillion> hi, the edit with startup-manager seemed to do the trick on my nvidia card
[15:02] <yogesh712harish> hello frnds can anybody tell me about..how to create iso images in ubuntu 9.04
[15:03] <rodox> I don't understand this error: $sudo pon - $/usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> yogesh712harish:  iso images for what purpose?
[15:04] <yogesh712harish> Dr_willis: i want iso image of XP2 so that i can use it in Virtual box
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> yogesh712harish:  you want to make an ISO image of an existing cd/dvd you allready have?
[15:05] <yogesh712harish> Dr_Willis: yes sir
[15:05] <Zider> what is XP2?
[15:05] <yogesh712harish> Windows Service pack 2
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> yogesh712harish:  command like -->   dd if=/dev/cdrom of=thedisk.iso       can do that.
[15:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> anyone know how I can easily transfer all my music from a windows vista pc over to this ubuntu pc?
[15:06] <yogesh712harish> Dr_willis: thank you sir...let me try this
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> SpaceCowboy40404:  access the remote box by samba, or using winscp/ssh and copy the files over.
[15:06] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: via samba ? or ftp. filzilla ftp server for windows can be intalled in a few minutes. then copy all music
[15:07] <SpaceCowboy40404> which of those methods are the easiest
[15:07] <SpaceCowboy40404> if it can go wrong for me it will :)
[15:09] <SpaceCowboy40404> do i need to put filzilla client on windows or filezilla server?
[15:10] <bastid_raZor> SpaceCowboy40404: use winscp on windows
[15:10] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: ssh + winscp seems the best option. Dr_Willis bastid_raZor tyvm
[15:11] <SpaceCowboy40404> thanks for the advice... will give them a try and come back when i mess it up :)
[15:12] <yogesh712harish> Dr_willis: are you there
[15:13] <yogesh712harish> Dr_Willis: i have fired the command but the cursor is only hanging there
[15:14] <yogesh712harish> can anybody help me for creating iso image.
[15:14] <felon> anyone running 10.04
[15:15] <erUSUL> yogesh712harish: sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=thedisk.iso  && sudo chowo $USER:$USER thedisk.iso
[15:15] <erUSUL> yogesh712harish: sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=thedisk.iso  && sudo chown $USER:$USER thedisk.iso
[15:15] <erUSUL> sorry typo
[15:15] <yogesh712harish> hello guys can anyone help me for crating iso image in ubuntu 9.04
[15:16] <ugliefrog> Im running 10.04
[15:16] <h00k> ugliefrog: Lucid discussion is on #ubuntu+1
[15:16] <yogesh712harish> erUSUL: i will try it
[15:16] <erUSUL> yogesh712harish: also you can use brasero or any other burning program to create an iso
[15:16] <h00k> also, felon ^
[15:17] <felon> how is it going ?
[15:17] <felon> smoothly ..
[15:17] <felon> oO
[15:18] <coachj> cd ripper doesn't show mp3 as choice how do I add?
[15:18] <yogesh712harish> erUsul: thank you sir...
[15:18] <erUSUL> yogesh712harish: no problem
[15:18] <h00k> coachj: I think you need to install lame
[15:19] <coachj> i thnik it is installed but ill look
[15:19] <erUSUL> coachj: install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[15:20] <erUSUL> coachj: or directly ubuntu-resticted-extras
[15:22] <SpaceCowboy40404> alright i have sshd and winscp both installed on my windows machine, how does this work?
[15:22] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: ypu need sshd in the ubuntu mchine
[15:22] <_picAssO_> is there a script that aligns the chat window in irssi? i don't like this ragged margin...
[15:22] <erUSUL> !sshd
[15:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> erusul: do i install it through synaptic?
[15:23] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: yes you can install it via synaptic
[15:23] <_picAssO_> SpaceCowboy40404: you can
[15:24] <bastid_raZor> _picAssO_: i'm sure there is.. you could ask i #irssi
[15:24] <root____> y0
[15:24] <erUSUL> _picAssO_: it depends on the theme ? doesn't it ?
[15:24] <h00k> _picAssO_: I think it's nm.pl
[15:24] <_picAssO_> bastid_raZor: ok
[15:24] <mylisto> arggh
[15:24] <_picAssO_> h00k: i will try that; thanks both of you
[15:24] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: done... now what
[15:25] <mylisto> is it just me, or is audio a HUGE issue with ubuntu? I'm running 8.04
[15:25] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: use winscp in windows to connect to the ubuntu box
[15:25] <SpaceCowboy40404> how?
[15:26] <SpaceCowboy40404> when i open winscp it is asking for a hostname, port number, username and password and private key file
[15:26] <mylisto> alls I'm trying to do is to use my usb headset for audio as my on board jacks are busted...
[15:26] <erUSUL> hostname is ubuntu ip port number leave it blank it will use default. username and password use tyour user's one
[15:26] <bastid_raZor> SpaceCowboy40404: http://winscp.net/eng/docs/getting_started
[15:27] <mylisto> I am a complete noob with ubuntu...I am sooo agravated at this point
[15:27] <aar> I have a bash script containing a loop that is applied to *.pdf. How should I use the command "find" and the option "-exec" to run this loop recursively in all subdirectories?
[15:27] <erUSUL> mylisto: i would use a newer ubuntu version usb audio is better with latest pulseaudio afaik
[15:28] <mylisto> erusul: do I have to upgrade my ubuntu or can I just upgrade pulseaudio?
[15:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> connection is timing out...
[15:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> correct ip, correct username and password as well
[15:28] <erUSUL> mylisto: as i said; i would install 9.10 or even the 10.04 RC ( which is LTS like 8.04 )
[15:29] <mylisto> lts?
[15:29] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: is sshd running in ubuntu ?
[15:29] <erUSUL> !lts
[15:29] <soreau> !lts
[15:29] <erUSUL> mylisto: luicd comes out in 29th this month
[15:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> i installed it.... does it run automatically or do i have to launch it?
[15:30] <mylisto> erusul: whats the chance that if I upgrade to 9.04 that I will some issues?
[15:30] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" just in case
[15:30] <erUSUL> mylisto: dunno; i have no problems with distupgrades; but others have ...
[15:30] <mylisto> also sometimes my laptop shuts down once in a while (no battery) and the connection with the ac adapter is shoddy...
[15:31] <mylisto> could this be an issue with an upgrade?
[15:31] <mylisto> and also can I "downgrade" back to 8.04 if I need to?
[15:31] <delac> mylisto: allways before upgrade try the live-cd to see that everything works ok
[15:31] <erUSUL> mylisto: well an uncluen shutdown during upgrade can be dangerous ...
[15:31] <mylisto> hmm...
[15:31] <SpaceCowboy40404> do i uyse my internal network ip for the ubuntu machine in winscp or do i use my external ip?
[15:31] <delac> mylisto: and no, you cant 'rollback'
[15:31] <zerty> hi
[15:32] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: internal (LAN) ip
[15:32] <coachj> how do I know if I have the ubuntu restricted extras enabled?
[15:32] <mylisto> seems like sound issues are hard as hell to fix in ubuntu
[15:32] <norbi905> Hello.  I hope I can get an answer to my question here, as in #pekwm I wasn't able to.  I did an Ubuntu minimal install, after which I installed PekWM window manager.  I'm having trouble setting up dual display with this window manager.  Maybe someone who uses it can give me a little hint.  Thank you.
[15:32] <hmw> coachj: did you install them?
[15:32] <amikrop> Hello. Since I changed something in plugin options of Audacious, I can't play songs with it by double clicking on them. I only can open Audacious and then drag them into the playlist.
[15:33] <amikrop> Any help, please?
[15:33] <mylisto> I need to know if I need the x86 version of 9.04 or the 64bit
[15:33] <mylisto> how can I find this out in term?
[15:33] <coachj> hmw: can't remember hoe do i check?
[15:33] <delac> mylisto: do you have 64-bit cpu?
[15:33] <mylisto> not sure delac
[15:33] <SpaceCowboy40404> still getting connection timed out
[15:33] <mylisto> when I did uname -a
[15:33] <mylisto> I got this
[15:34] <delac> mylisto: what cpu do you have?
[15:34] <mylisto> Linux mylisto-laptop 2.6.27-17-generic #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 23:14:44 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:34] <mylisto> not sure delac:
[15:34] <hmw> coachj: hmm try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:34] <delac> mylisto: open up the system monitor and look at the first tab
[15:35] <zerty> hi
[15:35] <zerty> i got 2 disk
[15:35] <mylisto> shows proc 0: intel core duo
[15:35] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: still getting connection timed out
[15:35] <mylisto> and proc 1 intel core duo
[15:35] <zerty> i want to install all software on the second disk
[15:35] <delac> mylisto: well core duos are 64-bit enabled
[15:35] <zerty> is that possible ?
[15:35] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: do you have a firewall in ubuntu ?
[15:35] <delac> mylisto: so you can use 64-bit ubuntu if you want
[15:35] <gimmickless_> morning y'all
[15:36] <ivanatwork> what podcast manager / viewer should I use? (gnome)
[15:36] <delac> mylisto: but you can use 32bit too
[15:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> just the default one... ufw... should i disable it?
[15:36] <scunizi> gimmickless_: you must be a west coaster
[15:36] <mylisto> would either make a diff?
[15:36] <mylisto> ie which one would be faster?
[15:36] <|crck|> morning..
[15:36] <delac> mylisto: how much ram you got?
[15:36] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: yes or configure it to allow ssh connections in
[15:36] <gimmickless_> scunizi: south Florida, actually
[15:36] <mylisto> 2 gigs
[15:36] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: disable then cause i dont know how to do that
[15:37] <delac> mylisto: then not much difference
[15:37] <scunizi> mylisto: depends.. on what you're doing .. video ? then 64 bit.. email & internet? won't matter
[15:37] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: but for a quck and dirt file copy operation seems better to just disable it for a while
[15:37] <coachj> lmw guess they werent installed
[15:37] <delac> mylisto: if you have over 4GB ram, then there is going to be difference
[15:37] <scunizi> gimmickless_: ah.. I'm -3 hrs
[15:37] <mylisto> so should I stick with the 32 bit?
[15:37] <delac> mylisto: well actually over 3GB
[15:37] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: ok i did sudo ufw disable
[15:38] <Eric^-> Drupal or Joomla, what's the easiest for a complete newbie?
[15:38] <scunizi> Eric^-: Joomla
[15:39] <delac> mylisto: no problems with that
[15:39] <mylisto> so it shouldn't make a diff?
[15:39] <mylisto> ok good...
[15:39] <|crck|> Drupal still nice i think...
[15:39] <devunt> yey
[15:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL:  connection timed out again
[15:39] <devunt> ubuntu 10.04 beta 2!
[15:39] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: :/
[15:39] <delac> mylisto: not really unless you plan on buying more ram in the future
[15:39] <devunt> Lucid Lynx!
[15:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL:  disabled my router firewall as well
[15:40] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: no need to do that
[15:40] <zerty> hi
[15:40] <zerty> i got 2 disk
[15:40] <zerty> i want to install all software on the second disk
[15:40] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL:  let me restart machine to make sure ufw is disabled
[15:40] <zerty> is that possible ?
[15:40] <SpaceCowboy40404> brb
[15:40] <FloodBot1> zerty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <gimmickless_> Man, the funniest thing happened to me this morning.  I ain't used my printer (HP J6400 series) in a month or so.  Now the damn thing won't print.  hpsetup doesn't even find a printer anymore.
[15:40] <mark2> can i get ubuntu support here ?
[15:41] <mylisto> delac: sorry its late here...so I should just stick with the 64 bit?
[15:41] <ivanatwork> mark2, just ask ;)
[15:41] <erUSUL> zerty: if you mount /usr/ on the second disk that would have the same effect
[15:41] <delac> mylisto: its up to you :)
[15:41] <mylisto> um ok...
[15:41] <zerty> sorry erUSUL
[15:41] <mylisto> these sound issues are driving me nuts!
[15:41] <zerty> ??????
[15:41] <ivanatwork> what shoul I use to view podcasts?
[15:41] <scunizi> gimmickless_: reinstall the drivers.... there's been a couple of cups updates that might have thrown a monkey wrench in the mix.. take a look at http://localhost:631 and try a test print from there.
[15:41] <delac> mylisto: what kind of issues?
[15:42] <mylisto> um, sound not working ;)
[15:42] <mylisto> what is the best sound system to use on ubuntu?
[15:42] <delac> mylisto: not at all? what sound card you got?
[15:42] <mylisto> oss, alsa or pulse?
[15:42] <waqas> gfgd
[15:42] <mark2> can anyone help me, i have installed linux and when i reboot it doesnt load linux it just goes straight into windows, and then when i go into the bios and try change the root prioriety to the hard drive i installed linux on it says, please insert a CD to boot
[15:42] <mark2> thanks ivanatwork
[15:42] <mylisto> delac: my onboard jacks are busted...
[15:42] <mylisto> so I'm using a gigaware usb headset
[15:42] <waqas> Hellow
[15:43] <waqas> is there any one!
[15:43] <Engrish_Man> anyone on irssi
[15:43] <Zider> <- irssi
[15:43] <waqas> i am from Pakistan
[15:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: ok restarted... what was that sudo command to make sure ssh is running
[15:43] <mylisto> if I go to sound preferences I can select c-media usb (alsa) or (oss) and click test and it works.can hear the tone
[15:43] <xangua> mark2: you inserted the CD to boot, and then what happened¿
[15:43] <scunizi> Engrish_Man: :))
[15:43] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404:  "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[15:43] <mylisto> but no youtube sound....for somereason it was workign yesterday...and then its gone
[15:43] <Engrish_Man> Zider: how can i change between channels ?? can you do that..?
[15:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> nm it says ssh agent is running in my system monitor
[15:44] <delac> mylisto: well cant help much with that... try burning the latest lucid on cd and see if it works better there
[15:44] <Engrish_Man> scunizi: I can be a big engrish guy sometimes
[15:44] <scunizi> Engrish_Man: alt + right or left arrow
[15:44] <Zider> Engrish_Man: alt+the number of the channel
[15:44] <gimmickless_> scunizi: localhost:631/admin doesn't find a printer either
[15:44] <scunizi> gimmickless_: try reinstalling it.. that'll probably fix it.
[15:45] <danny0205> hello everyone, I'm new
[15:45] <mylisto> which is the latest one delac:?
[15:45] <bastid_raZor> Engrish_Man: /window numberofwindow  .. also i think /w may work for shorthand
[15:45] <cwraig> mark2: have a look and try to find out which drive is your primary master (for old ide drives) or for the first sata disk cause thats where the linux bootloader will be installed
[15:45] <Engrish_Man> Ok it works ... thx guys
[15:45] <ivanatwork> mark2, you have to install Ubuntu in one partition and to tell GRUB (or the bootloader) what to do ... is GRUB the problem?
[15:45] <cwraig> mark2: you could just keep changing your boot disk until you find ubuntu
[15:45] <delac> mylisto: Lucid 10.04, but its still RC and the final will be releaced at 29.4.
[15:46] <mylisto> rc?
[15:46] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: it is connecting now, but is saying access is denied due to password error... I am using the same password I use to login on this machine?
[15:46] <delac> mylisto: releace candidate
[15:46] <erUSUL> yes
[15:46] <scunizi> Engrish_Man: irssi can be split horizontally so you can watch several channels at the same time.
[15:46] <erUSUL> and the same username SpaceCowboy40404
[15:46] <delac> mylisto: its allmost as good as the final version
[15:46] <Engrish_Man> scunizi: orly...? where can i do that
[15:46] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: spelling error i think just a sec
[15:46] <gimmickless_> re-install cups, you mean?
[15:46] <delac> mylisto: you can test with it, but dont install it yet
[15:47] <Engrish_Man> scunizi: i guess i can also change the default colors
[15:47] <mark2> i think the dvd drive is the main IDE drive, but as far as i know thats not being used cause im using SATA, as far as i can see i have tried to boot from all the drives without success
[15:47] <delac> mylisto: wait for the final before installing
[15:47] <scunizi> Engrish_Man: "help window"  or rather /help window in irssi
[15:47] <zerty> chroot for what ?
[15:47] <Engrish_Man> ok thx!
[15:47] <mylisto> think I will just use 9.04
[15:47] <mylisto> I'm still at 8.04
[15:47] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: haha spelling error.. apperantly it is case speccific
[15:47] <zerty> pivotroot for  what ?
[15:47] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL:  im in now
[15:48] <mark2> also... i dont know what grub is , im still very new to this
[15:48] <erUSUL> SpaceCowboy40404: well copy the files now ;)
[15:48] <SpaceCowboy40404> erUSUL: yep copying now thanks for help
[15:48] <Engrish_Man> scunizi: i was trying that help command .... but everytime i was on a channel not in the status screen now that i can change between channels i can reach for the status screen :-D
[15:49] <delac> mylisto: 9.04 is very outdated allready! (i know, i'm using it myself :) ) for example firefox in the 9.04 doesn't receive security updates anymore
[15:49] <iceroot> delac: sure it does
[15:49] <delac> iceroot: the default firefox 3.0?
[15:49] <iceroot> delac: for 3.0 patches are backported, for 3.5 there are still patches
[15:49] <iceroot> delac: yes, for both are still security-updates
[15:49] <mylisto> delac: is there a newer version?
[15:49] <mylisto> other than the lucid one?
[15:50] <delac> iceroot: oh, my bad
[15:50] <delac> mylisto: for what, firefox?
[15:50] <iceroot> delac: also lenny is using ff3.0 (iceweasel) too, there are security-updates too
[15:50] <mylisto> er, for ubuntu?
[15:51] <delac> mylisto: newest  stable ubuntu is Karmic 9.10
[15:51] <delac> iceroot: who is doing these security updates? as far as i know, Mozilla does not
[15:52] <gimmickless_> scunizi: Re-installed CUPS. localhost:631/admin still not finding a printer.
[15:52] <mark2> im just gonna go try change my boot prioriety and then see if that works ... :)
[15:52] <iceroot> delac: debian-security-maintainer
[15:53] <scunizi> gimmickless_: didn't mean reinstall cups.. reinstall the printer.. don't wait for automatic recognition
[15:53] <iceroot> delac: they are backporting patches from 3.5 for 3.0
[15:53] <echosystm> i need a new laptop and i need it to run ubuntu flawlessly
[15:53] <echosystm> help
[15:53] <andiolsi> hi, what do i need to do to make my radeon hd5870 display port run my 30" at 2560x1600 under 9.10 64bit?  as a long time debian user i would now procede to let packages be packages and compile my own kernel and create my own xorg.conf.  is there a shorter way in ubuntu?
[15:53] <iceroot> echosystm: choose a laptop and then look if it is running ubuntu
[15:53] <andiolsi> i installed the fglrx driver via gui as per recommendation, but i get a "AMD unsupported hardware" logo.
[15:54] <andiolsi> and my mouse pointer is gone
[15:54] <echosystm> isnt there anywhere saying laptops that run awesome?
[15:54] <acicula> andiolsi: System->administration->hardware drivers
[15:54] <delac> iceroot: i would think that might be problematic at times... but if they can do it, so why not :)
[15:54] <andiolsi> echosystm: my x301 works just fine
[15:54] <rodox> somebody have experience with 3g modem?
[15:54] <acicula> andiolsi: there is no need to (re)build a kernel
[15:54] <iceroot> !hardware | echosystm
[15:54] <acicula> rodox: yes, but better to just ask about/describe your problem
[15:55] <iceroot> !anyone | rodox
[15:55] <cwraig2> echosystm, ive got a asus g60jx no issues
[15:55] <andiolsi> acicula: my first guess would be a too old fglrx driver in 9.10 mainline
[15:55] <iceroot> delac: its working fine
[15:55] <ubuntubama> Enter text here...
[15:55] <penocio> is there ANY way to convert ext3 to fat32 without loosing data?
[15:55] <acicula> andiolsi: have you tried the current driver?
[15:55] <rodox> ubottu: a bot without answers
[15:56] <andiolsi> acicula: yes, that displays a "AMD Unsupported Hardware" Logo in the lower left corner of X
[15:56] <andiolsi> lower right
[15:56] <acicula> andiolsi: and the open source driver does not provide the resolution that you want?
[15:57] <acicula> andiolsi: there may be a flgrx in the backports, there should be a newer in the 10.04 ubuntu version comming in a week
[15:57] <ravenkhan> please tell me how can i standy my sytem
[15:57] <ravenkhan> in  ubuntu 9.1
[15:57] <andiolsi> acicula: if i install the 10.04 beta now, will it bee a seemles apt-get dist-upgrade to next weeks version?
[15:57] <iceroot> andiolsi: yes
[15:58] <ravenkhan>  please tell me how can i standy my sytem
[15:58] <acicula> andiolsi: well its still beta, but yeah you can update to the final 10.04 revision
[15:58] <andiolsi> so no need playing around with 9.10 :p
[15:58] <ravenkhan>  please tell me how can i standby my sytem
[15:58] <acicula> andiolsi: well it is still a release candidate, they are still ironing out, at least one, serious bugs
[15:58] <maco> ravenkhan: should be a suspend option in the dropdown in far top right corner
[15:59] <ravenkhan> maco :yeah but that doesnot put laptop into low power state
[15:59] <peturi> Hi, i'm looking for a user friendly backup application for my girlfriend.. any suggestions?
[15:59] <acicula> andiolsi: its worth a try for sure at least, given that 9.10 is about as hold as the 5xxx series it wouldnt be surprising it lacks recent fglrx binary drivers from amd that support the hd5xxx
[15:59] <ravenkhan> maaco :i mean by standby that low power state
[15:59] <maco> ravenkhan: oh do you want hibernate?
[15:59] <andiolsi> acicula: ah, i dont care about "stability", ran debian unstable for years.  dpkg --force-all is my best friend
[16:00] <ravenkhan> maco : no
[16:00] <maco> ravenkhan: the one that takes a while and is practically off?
[16:00] <acicula> well debian unstable is kind of, stable /
[16:00] <maco> ravenkhan: well suspend (low power, fast resume) and hibernate (no power, slow resume) are the two options
[16:00] <andiolsi> hence the double quotes
[16:00] <ravenkhan> maco : no not hibernate ....standby mode in which all orocesses run
[16:00] <acicula> andiolsi: liking the edge huh, try gentoo with nightly builds ;)
[16:01] <andiolsi> acicula: gentoo is pain, the installation rules though
[16:01] <maco> ravenkhan: i dont know of anything like that at all... wouldnt that just be "on" if there are processes still running?
[16:01] <ravenkhan> maco: all processes are active but screen is off and on pressing any key turn lap on
[16:01] <maco> ravenkhan: so just blanking the screen?
[16:01] <acicula> andiolsi: it rules if you can enjoy yourself an entire afternoon watching code compile and drinking beer
[16:01] <papa> moi j'ai un eeepc qui dechire
[16:01] <maco> ravenkhan: thatd be in screensaver settings...
[16:01] <acicula> which is off course awesome
[16:01] <maco> !fr | papa
[16:01] <papa> franchement pas besoin de plus
[16:01] <andiolsi> is that the proper image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[16:01] <ronnie> I have installed ubuntu 9.10 inside Vista After reboot I typed my admin number correctly
[16:01] <ronnie> but
[16:02] <ravenkhan> maco : no have you seen standby mide in windows XP?
[16:02] <guntbert> !ot | andiolsi
[16:02] <acicula> andiolsi: err bett grab the rc from the frontpage instead of the daily live
[16:02] <maco> ravenkhan: not in a few years
[16:02] <acicula> the rc works for sure, the daily build ymmv ?
[16:02] <islington> hello I have the package called "inkscape" installed from the official repositories; I found the nightly builds of this package, but I dont want to get rid of the repository version; anyway to install the deb and not have it replace the current version? install it somewhere else maybe?
[16:02] <papa> sorry
[16:02] <maco> islington: nope
[16:02] <ravenkhan> maco : not aware of standby mode then
[16:02] <ronnie> I have installed ubuntu 9.10 inside Vista After reboot I typed my admin number but got an error message. Can anyone help?
[16:03] <ronnie> ubuntu would not start
[16:03] <acicula> islington: well you can drop it in your home and call it with full paths, but it requires some effort to prevent conflicts and library mixups
[16:03] <islington> maco: anyway to rename the package so that naming is not the same: something like inkscape-nightly?
[16:03] <ravenkhan> maco : actually in standby all processes run but the system is in low power state but in suspend here in ubuntu system gets logout
[16:03] <Engrish_Man> "all your ubuntu are belong to win vista"
[16:03] <maco> ravenkhan: whatever it is, i guess it doesnt exist here. the way you're describing it though sounds like "turn on good power management settings & blank the screen" which since we already have dynamic cpu allocation enabled, the "good power management settings" part should already be there
[16:03] <maco> islington: the issue is they use the same files on teh system
[16:03] <acicula> islington: the problem is not just the package name but they probably also try to change the same files
[16:03]  * acicula high fives maco 
[16:03] <bluebaron> is 10.04 released yet?
[16:04] <acicula> bluebaron: nope, on a release candidate atm
[16:04] <xangua> no
[16:04] <maco> ravenkhan: you shouldnt be logged out on suspend, just screensaver enabled (possibly with screen lock though?)
[16:04] <bluebaron> it's out tomorrow right?
[16:04] <xangua> no
[16:04] <acicula> bluebaron: its out on the 29th
[16:04] <andiolsi> acicula: is there some kind of netinstall image for 10.04?
[16:04] <islington> hmm, I guess I will install the nighly version on a virtual machine thanks acicula maco
[16:04] <bluebaron> eff my life
[16:04] <acicula> andiolsi: eh yeah without a doubt
[16:04] <maco> andiolsi: yeah lemme find it
[16:04] <ravenkhan> maco : yeah i suspend it just get locked but no reduction in power consumption
[16:05] <acicula> andiolsi: the netboot iso maybe missing but there should be netboot kernel+initrd images
[16:05] <ravenkhan> maco : and in hibernate system gets shutdown with processes settings saved
[16:05] <norbi> I don't think I have my dual display set-up correctly.  I'm using Ubuntu minimal install with PekWM window manager and bmpanel2 as my panel.  They both treat my dual display as one big screen, even though nvidia I have it set up as Twinview.  The panel goes along both screens.  Now, when I start nvidis-settings, all open windows move to one display, and my panel also moves to only one of the displays.  This only happens
[16:05] <acicula> andiolsi: you can typically find them hiding away in the release trees under x/y/z/1/null/null/nowehere/netboot
[16:05] <acicula> takes a bit of digging
[16:05] <ravenkhan> maco : i need one in which power consumption less with processes running not like suspend in which only system gets locked
[16:06] <andiolsi> acicula: meh.   whats the name of that windows usb stick install thingy?
[16:06] <acicula> unetbootin
[16:06] <acicula> oh windows
[16:06] <andiolsi> exactly
[16:06] <acicula> err
[16:06] <acicula> unetbootin?
[16:06] <andiolsi> ye
[16:06] <maco> ravenkhan: no reduction in power consumption on suspend?
[16:07] <acicula> http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/433/unetbootin-windows-433.exe/download
[16:07] <ravenkhan> no  i dont think so
[16:07] <guntbert> ravenkhan: suspend = suspend to ram = nothing is running, the system needs only enough power to keep the RAM contents
[16:07] <maco> ravenkhan: that is a bad bug then. you're saying you can only stay suspended for about 2 hours from a full battery?
[16:07] <acicula> that cant be
[16:07] <maco> ravenkhan: ideally you should be able to stay suspended a few days from a full battery (though on my laptop it used to be 12hr and is now thankfully more like 24-30)
[16:07] <bastid_raZor> ravenkhan: suspend is like hibernate but writes to RAM instead of disk. both, technically, hibernate the box
[16:08] <maco> bastid_raZor: no
[16:08] <ravenkhan> ok
[16:08] <ravenkhan> then fine
[16:08] <maco> bastid_raZor: the system has to still use some power to keep the RAM awake. with hibernate it doesnt use any
[16:08] <ravenkhan> thanks
[16:08] <acicula> suspend means a total shutdown of the system bar power to the ram and some mainboard components?
[16:08] <maco> acicula: right
[16:08] <acicula> if your out of juice in suspend in 2hours then its not suspending
[16:08] <acicula> then its just idling along
[16:08] <ravenkhan> .fasinfo susmit
[16:09] <andiolsi> acicula: i was planning on using fluxbox as wm again, do you see any problem coming up with that?
[16:09] <maco> acicula: some hardware will refuse to shut down properly or the kernel wont know how to do it properly, and then you get cases like mine where suspend only lasts 12h, and thats something to file a bug about
[16:09] <acicula> andiolsi: a wm is just a wm, its horribly tiny and limited, but it'll move your windows?
[16:09] <maco> ravenkhan: please file a bug using the command "ubuntu-bug linux" if your system is not suspending properly
[16:10] <acicula> maco: ah like so, but then we are talking periphials that keep spinning, ussually not the cpu/chipset/hdd i'd assume?
[16:10] <andiolsi> acicula: i dont expect any problems, but maybe some of the gui-tools of ubuntu require gnome as wm?
[16:10] <acicula> andiolsi: gnome is not a wm, you can run gnome on top of fluxbox
[16:11] <maco> ravenkhan: also, there is a suspend & hibernate test script at /usr/share/checkbox/scripts/suspend_test you can run to get more diagnostic info to give to the developers
[16:11] <andiolsi> acicula: so whats the default wm for ubuntu?
[16:11] <acicula> though if you have a 30" screen, a hd5870 you will have the matching set no doubt, so why'd youd want to bother with fluxbox ..
[16:11] <bastid_raZor> maco: correct, i knew it in my head correctly but bad head to mouth(finger) tranfer
[16:11] <acicula> andiolsi: metacity, or compiz for the whizbang flashy stuff
[16:11] <maco> andiolsi: compiz if you have a decent graphics card, metacity if you dont
[16:11] <Reckon> evening
[16:12] <devunt> How can I set the ubuntu default text editor?
[16:12] <andiolsi> i dont really need fancy graphics, i just want maximum visibility, so why waste it on window decorations and scrollbars? :)  i would use ion if it wouldnt suck
[16:12] <maco> acicula: could be anything depending on driver quality... cpu might be waking up constantly for no good reason
[16:12] <acicula> devunt: preferences defaults or application defaults or something to that extend
[16:12] <maco> devunt: right click on a text file -> preferences -> open with and set a new default
[16:12] <mark2> my situation is very weird, i have 3 hard drives, my windows harddrive, my linux harddrive and another hard drive, for some reason i could only boot linux when i booted from the other hard drive, it doesnt make sense, but i did manage to boot up lol
[16:13] <acicula> preferred applications, but it doesnt do the text file bindings
[16:13] <scunizi> mark2: grub was installed on the wrong drive.. or that drive was set to boot when you installed ubuntu..
[16:13] <scunizi> !grub2 | mark2
[16:14] <acicula> maco: ah i always assumed the suspend state effectively would cut power until poweron by the mobo based on some event, which admittedly requires something doing some processing somewhere i suppose
[16:14] <andiolsi> does 10.04 allready use upstart instead of init?
[16:14] <cwraig2> mark2, i just missed you before but during the ubunut install it picks the drive it thinks is the primary one and adds the tiny bootloader code to that disk so when it boots it can point to ubuntu
[16:14] <acicula> andiolsi: 9.10 already did
[16:14] <andiolsi> acicula: ic
[16:14] <maco> andiolsi: yes, so does 9.10
[16:15] <mark2> so you think it pointed to that drive cause that drive is formatted as fat 32 instead of ntfs ?
[16:15] <gimmickless_> scunizi: I am a moron.  Accidentally plugged the USB into the phone jack without looking. Issue fixed.
[16:15] <maco> mark2: possibly its the primary drive according to the bios?
[16:15] <mark2> thats possible
[16:15] <devunt> thanks, maco
[16:15] <acicula> andiolsi: old school rc.d stuff still lingers around though
[16:15] <poutine> gimmickless_, Don't forget to adjust the chin strap on your helmet
[16:15] <scunizi> mark2: LOL gimmickless_   I was going to suggest looking at the connections .. but figured that would be to basic.
[16:16] <andiolsi> btw, who comes up with those distro release names? are they related?
[16:16] <cwraig2> mark2, no its got nothing to do with the partitions, its in the part of the disk before the partitions
[16:16] <poutine> andiolsi, A sad sad furry
[16:16] <maco> andiolsi: did you want the net install iso as 32 or 64 bit?
[16:16] <mark2> i was kinda trying to partition linux onto one harddrive only, do you think these files on the hard drive are going to interfere with windows at all ?
[16:16] <maco> devunt: np
[16:16] <andiolsi> maco: already creating usb stick,  64bit
[16:16] <maco> andiolsi: oh you wanted usb? i thought you wanted net...
[16:17] <andiolsi> maco: yes, but the image was 70% finished at that point :p
[16:17] <maco> andiolsi: ah
[16:17] <BluesKaj> hey all
[16:18] <cwraig2> mark2, no they will not interfere, what happens is when your computer boots it reads the "boot sector"(a part of the hard disk) from your boot disk (set in bios) and that tells the computer how or what operating system to boot.
[16:18] <cwraig2> mark2, the boot sector is a reserved part of the drive that is only used for boot information so it is not affected by partitions.
[16:18] <azertuio> hi
[16:19] <azertuio> i got 3 partition
[16:19] <KiiK> hi, how to check what terminal I'm using
[16:19] <mark2> oh ok sweeet thanks, well for the record, linux seems to be running sweet! im digging it, and wow that into music kicks the ass of windows intro music, by sooooo much! thanks a lot for all your help guys, i hope that soon enough i will be able to contribute too,.. :)
[16:19] <azertuio> one is system installation partition second is unlocated third one is swap
[16:20] <andiolsi> if this works out okay i just might switch to full-time linux on my work laptop again. is there some community page for ubuntu on lenovo laptops? i remember having to do a _lot_ of configuring by hand to get buttons and stuff working properly
[16:20] <azertuio> i want to resize the system partition with the unallocated one
[16:20] <azertuio> how to do ?
[16:20] <cwraig2> mark2, nice
[16:20] <akshay> Hello people,recently purchased HP Touchsmart tm2...want to install Ubuntu on it...i need the following things on it.. pen and finger shud work for scrolling...and screen shud rotate when i press the key to it. also if possi switchable graphics card
[16:20] <mylisto> god I am really starting to hate ubuntu
[16:20] <akshay> it has wacom...i know that
[16:20] <Egonis> I'm running Ubuntu 10.4, and am trying to connect to a 40/128 WEP WiFi network, however am repeatedly prompted for the WEP key, although the same hardware running Win7 has no issues connecting. Is there a HOWTO? I am willing to create the connection manually
[16:20] <xangua> !lucid > Egonis
[16:21] <azertuio> hello
[16:21] <azertuio> i got 3 partition
[16:21] <azertuio> i want to resize the system partition with the unallocated one
[16:21] <Egonis> xangua: Yes, but Ubuntu 9.10 also had the same issue, I started using the new version hoping that this had changed
[16:21] <cwraig2> azertuio, i would use run sudo gparted from the live cd
[16:21] <mark2> cwraig2, just for the record, programs like mediaplayer classic, google chrome will i be able to use them on linux ?
[16:21] <netech> here's a silly question. I have a removable sata drive. I put the drive in and turn the key to lock it and spin up the drive. Now how do I know where to access it? Nothing new is showing up in my dmesg.
[16:21] <me__> hi
[16:21] <cwraig2> azertuio, backup first
[16:21] <azertuio> can't boot from live cde
[16:21] <randomusr_> is there a free voice server that I could install on my ubuntu box? or perhaps a paid server that I could interface with?
[16:21] <me__> is there something special abuot the way that ubuntu mounts fat partitions compared to otehr distros?
[16:21] <jimmyjh> im having a problem, trying to set up internet sharing but with no luck
[16:22] <azertuio> i want to do without booting from livecd
[16:22] <azertuio> how to do plz ?
[16:22] <akshay> Hello people,recently purchased HP Touchsmart tm2...want to install Ubuntu on it...i need the following things on it.. pen and finger shud work for scrolling...and screen shud rotate when i press the key to it. also if possi switchable graphics card
[16:22] <rdavila> Hi folks, I've a problem with an nvidia quadro nvs 140m video card on a ibm laptop model t61 15.4'
[16:22] <cwraig2> mark2, the short answer is no but there will be equivalents med player classic = vlc and as for chrome i think there are linux builds around but i dont know
[16:22] <rdavila> I can't set 12800x800 resolution
[16:23] <rdavila> I'm on Karmic and using the propietary driver
[16:23] <cwraig2> mark2, have a look through the software centre
[16:23] <rdavila> here is a screenshot of the video configurator: http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5852/nvidiap.png
[16:23] <cwraig2> azertuio, i dont think you can resize a partition that is in use, thats why you need the livecd
[16:23] <Spasysheep> mark2: Google chrome is available on ubuntu, and for most windows only programs there are equivalents available
[16:23] <randomusr_> wow
[16:24] <rdavila> In windoze I can set 1280x800 without problems
[16:24] <akshay> plz..anybody with a touchscreen laptop experience...i mean HP tm2
[16:24] <cc4> hi all. I had ubuntu installed it tvtime or mythtv cvhanged my tvtune's autodetct string and it now doesn't autodetects on windows. what can I do?
[16:24] <Fifas> hello there. can anyone help me out? I have already posted a bug on launchpad (which I can kindly provide an url when asked for) for an openssh server on ubuntu 9.10 that freezes after sending username/password
[16:24] <jimmyjh2> can anyone help me with internet sharing?
[16:24] <mark2> cwraig, ah thats a pity, media player classic, truely is a classic, but i think i can probably live without it
[16:24] <mark2> Spasysheep, thanks thats good to know
[16:24] <akshay> cant find anything on net..nobody replies on forums...
[16:24] <cc4> how can I reset the card? I need to do it for a sata card as well
[16:25] <jimmyjh2> demonic how is your internet
[16:25] <jimmyjh2> haha
[16:25] <aguitel> jimmyjh2, try using firestarter
[16:25] <akshay> Hello people,recently purchased HP Touchsmart tm2...want to install Ubuntu on it...i need the following things on it.. pen and finger shud work for scrolling...and screen shud rotate when i press the key to it. also if possi switchable graphics card
[16:25] <me__> is there something special about the way that ubuntu mounts fat partitions compared to other distros?
[16:25] <mark2> wow i just realised i really know nothing about this stuff, another question, nvidia gforce drivers, can install them on linux or would i have to get a linux version ?
[16:25] <andiolsi> acicula: the 10.04 installers X does not properly start. display stays black.  ill try dual link dvi cable. but i dont think thats a desired behavior.
[16:26] <versek> hola
[16:26] <Demonik> hey people, I'm trying to setup a shared connection but well, ubuntu seems to be against me
[16:26] <Demonik> any tips?
[16:26] <jimmyjh2> aquitel , we have tried but with no luck
[16:26] <cwraig2> mark2,  have a look under administration --> hardware drivers it will sort them out for you
[16:26] <acicula> andiolsi: probably not
[16:26] <Fifas> Demonik against you how?
[16:26] <cc4> can anyone help me please?
[16:26] <akshay> realised i really know nothing about this stuff, another question, nvidia gforce drivers, can install them on linux or would i have to get a linux version ?
 acicula: the 10.04 installers X does not properly start. display stays black.  ill
[16:26] <akshay> anybody
[16:26] <akshay> plz
[16:26] <cc4> how can I reset a pci card in ubuntu?
[16:26] <FloodBot1> akshay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <versek> hello people
[16:26] <mark2> cwraig2, thanks ill have a look
[16:27] <aguitel> jimmyjh2, how many cards to you have
[16:27] <Fifas> can anyone help me out? I have already posted a bug on launchpad (which I can kindly provide an url when asked for) for an openssh server on ubuntu 9.10 that freezes after sending username/password
[16:27] <acicula> andiolsi: could try the alternative installer and do a text based install(and hope the problem is then fixed)
[16:27] <jimmyjh2> aquitel 2
[16:27] <Demonik> Fifas: well apparently I can't connect the second PC in any damn way
[16:27] <zigby> hello all
[16:27] <Fifas> can you PING the ubuntu machine?
[16:27] <Demonik> no
[16:27] <acicula> Fifas: gota link, how do you determine the server itself acutally freezes?
[16:27] <andiolsi> acicula: whats the argument at boottime for that?
[16:28] <aguitel> jimmyjh2, try to make sharig internet with the other card
[16:28] <acicula> andiolsi: actually i dont know, there is an alternative installtion iso thats normally used for that
[16:28] <acicula> andiolsi: though a boot option makes sense
[16:28] <Fifas> acicula, because it doesn't do anything. /var/log/auth.log initiates session and gives no more information. ssh client just stands there doing nothing. ssh proccess for the session holds on forever and nothing happens
[16:28] <h00k> akshay: see #ubuntu+1 for Lucid as stated in the topic :)
[16:29] <azertuio> well i got two partition system partition and data partition i want to install gedit and someother application on the data partition how to do ?
[16:29] <cwraig2> mark2, all your regular software that runs under windows will not work under linux, software has to be specificly put together for linux. Some programs like firefox make both a windows and a linux version but you cant take your windows install files for firefox and run them
[16:29] <jimmyjh2> aquitel we have tried but no luck
[16:29] <LtHummus> is there a gui equivalent of add-apt-repository?
[16:29] <acicula> Fifas: whats the users shell defined as in /etc/password ?
[16:29] <Fifas> acicula and this happens with various machines on the network, not just one. even an ssh localhost doesn't work
[16:29] <versek> i have a troubles with tty1
[16:29] <h00k> azertuio: you have your /home on a separate partition?
[16:29] <Fifas> acicula bash
[16:29] <mark2> i have to restart will be back now
[16:29] <acicula> Fifas: does the problem occur with different username/passwd combinations?
[16:30] <versek> i dont know what that mean
[16:30] <versek> someone can help me
[16:30] <Fifas> acicula: yeah. all users, all machines
[16:30] <Fifas> acicula: already reinstalled package with remove and with purge
[16:30] <acicula> so SSH is just not letting you log in , and hangs on authenticating?
[16:30] <azertuio> no i don't have /home on the data partition h00k
[16:31] <jimmyjh2> so is there any easy way to set up an internet sharing because we have been trying for days
[16:31] <acicula> any particular configuration, can you reproduce when you boot a clean system from a usb stick?
[16:31] <h00k> azertuio: What do you have, then, for two partitions?
[16:31] <Fifas> acicula: no, it authenticates, it just doesn't proceed. I mean, I see session initiate on /var/log/auth.log
[16:31] <iceroot> !ics | jimmyjh2
[16:31] <acicula> but the shell never gets spawned?
[16:31] <azertuio> first one is the system partition where ubuntu is installed
[16:31] <acicula> anything done ith access controls like apparmor/selinux/capabilities ?
[16:31] <azertuio> the second is empty nothing for now
[16:31] <iceroot> Fifas: use ssh -vvv
[16:32] <h00k> azertuio: the best way to do that would be to have your / and /home on two separate partitions. Things you install will go to / and all of your user data will be separate on /home
[16:32] <Fifas> iceroot: freezes right after "entering interactive session"
[16:33] <azertuio> ok how to do ?
[16:33] <h00k> !home | azertuio
[16:33] <Fifas> can I provide you with the launchpad bug url? I'm not getting banned for spam?
[16:33] <iceroot> Fifas: have you modified the /etc/passwd on the target-pc? like adding zsh into it without have it installed?
[16:33] <Fifas> iceroot: I haven't, I'll try that
[16:34] <iceroot> Fifas: dont try that!
[16:34] <Fifas> ok
[16:34] <Fifas> lol
[16:34] <Fifas> I'm not an experienced user, but I've tried every darn thing to solve this
[16:34] <iceroot> Fifas: nothing in /var/log/daemon.log?
[16:34] <ARTSIOM> Hi All!
[16:34] <azertuio> and for install package on the second partition what to do ?
[16:35] <ARTSIOM> I have an iso file, how can I "burn" it to flash drive?
[16:35] <iceroot> !usb | ARTSIOM
[16:35] <iceroot> ARTSIOM: the first link
[16:35] <azertuio> and for install package on the second partition what to do ? h00k
[16:36] <iceroot> azertuio: you cant with apt-get
[16:36] <h00k> azertuio: once you follow that tutorial to put your /home on a separate partition, everything will be installed to the / partition.
[16:37] <need-help-with-m> hi i recently installed postfix and dovecot successfully and configured everything right. i can send emails and i can receive emails, i think, the problem is, i told postfix and dovecot to use ~/Maildir/ but there is no mail, only some dovecot conf files. PLZ SOMEONE HELP ME!
[16:37] <azertuio> is it possible to pivotroot ?
[16:37] <h00k> azertuio: I give 10gb for my / and the rest of my disk is my /home partition. I have never needed more than 10gb for my /
[16:37] <Fifas> iceroot: nothing. well I mean, I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I've tried a ssh login now and daemon.log has a few lines with ddclient.cache stuff
[16:37] <h00k> need-help-with-m: there's no need to shout, if someone knows, they will answer
[16:37] <Fifas> "skipping update" etc
[16:37] <azertuio> i mean sometime to ask to install package on specified partition
[16:37] <need-help-with-m> ok captn c00k
[16:37] <h00k> azertuio: no.
[16:37] <Fifas> iceroot: I don't think it's related
[16:37] <azertuio> and other time to install on sys partition ?
[16:37] <need-help-with-m> sry i mean h00k
[16:38] <azertuio> is that possible ?
[16:38] <ARTSIOM> ubottu: thanks!
[16:38] <iceroot> Fifas: and /var/log/auth.log?
[16:38] <h00k> azertuio: no
[16:38] <azertuio> r u sure ?
[16:38] <h00k> azertuio: yes.
[16:38] <Fifas> iceroot: already said about /var/log/auth.log ... it initiates session and gives no more log lines. log output is set to VERBOSE
[16:38] <azertuio> i got experience with linux firmware
[16:39] <azertuio> i used that one there was a time
[16:39] <azertuio> i don't remember
[16:39] <Fifas> by the way, shell for users is set to "sh" not "bash"
[16:39] <duffy> why exactly cant you mount an iso without sudo?   i own the iso, and i own the folder its to be mounted
[16:40] <plitter> how do u make many folders from the terminal? i thought the command was either mkdir name{1-4} or mkdir name[1-4]
[16:40] <andiolsi> acicula: definitly a display port issue, dl-dvi works
[16:40] <iceroot> Fifas: i guess the default is /bin/bash but i dont know exactly because i am not using bash as login-shell
[16:40] <iceroot> Fifas: maybe try one user with /bin/bash
[16:40] <Fifas> iceroot: bash is set for the admin user, that also doesn't work
[16:40] <h00k> plitter: mkdir foldernamehere
[16:40] <Fifas> and I don't mean root
[16:40] <h00k> plitter: or mkdir folder1 folder2 folder3 folder4
[16:40] <Fifas> so, I guess the shell is also not the issue
[16:41] <h00k> plitter: mkdir folder\ with\ spaces
[16:41] <acicula> andiolsi: k heres to hoping it gets fixed then :)
[16:41] <iceroot> Fifas: ssh user@host touch ~/foo -vvv
[16:41] <duffy> mkdir " "  make folder thats just a space :)
[16:41] <iceroot> Fifas: look at the host if it is creating the file foo in home-dir
[16:41] <vol7ron> i'm not sure if this is the right channel to go -- set up Ubuntu for the first time and need some help with Apache
[16:41] <azertuio> iceroot: why i can't do with apt-get ?
[16:41] <iceroot> vol7ron: just ask
[16:41] <isset> does somebody know where I can get idoom for my nano?
[16:42] <plitter> oooh, i can feell how people are avoiding the question i was asking:o:P
[16:42] <iceroot> azertuio: because its burned into the programs where to install
[16:42] <vol7ron> I'm getting-- apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[16:42] <Fifas> iceroot: again, it freezes right after "entering interactive session"
[16:42] <iceroot> vol7ron: then there is no hostname set in /etc/hosts
[16:42] <vol7ron> 127.0.1.1	ubuntu
[16:42] <Fifas> authentication success, etc etc and then nothing
[16:42] <vol7ron> that's what's in /etc/hosts
[16:42] <iceroot> Fifas: hm but that command should not start a loginshell
[16:42] <azertuio> i need to install kde on the second empty partition how to do ? iceroot
[16:42] <vol7ron> along with the localhost line
[16:42] <mark1> hi im back , seems that the geforce update worked, thank you
[16:43] <h00k> azertuio: you cannot do that, it doesn't work that way
[16:43] <iceroot> vol7ron: and that is not a FQDN
[16:43] <Fifas> iceroot it should if the user is not the one I'm logged on for
[16:43] <h00k> !pm | versek
[16:43] <iceroot> vol7ron: 127.0.x.x is not eth its the lo-device
[16:43] <azertuio> what ? h00k what doesn't work thta way ?
[16:43] <vol7ron> iceroot: is there some place I can learn about this?
[16:43] <hmw> installed karmic and have an issue with thumbs of videos - if i put the file to the desktop, i get no thumbnail. moving the files to a folder, thumbs appear! how to make my desktop show thumbnails like in jaunty?
[16:43] <iceroot> vol7ron: any book about networking
[16:43] <plitter> h00k: there is a way of making many folders with the same name and different numbers,  just using a syntax like i wrote up there
[16:43] <vol7ron> iceroot: this is how it came installed defaultedly
[16:44] <mark1> is anyone using duel screens, im having some problems, for some reason i can only get the desktop to stretch or clone i cant get them separated
[16:44] <Fifas> iceroot: anyway, even with the default user any command or session freezes in "entering interactive session"
[16:44] <iceroot> vol7ron: yes, you are connected to a network?
[16:44] <h00k> plitter: as far as that goes, I'm not exactly sure.  Check the man page for mkdir (in a terminal, type 'man mkdir')
[16:44] <vol7ron> iceroot: I'm running ubuntu in a VMware on Windows7
[16:44] <Dreamglider> isset, http://www.ipodlinux.org/wiki/IDoom
[16:44] <h00k> azertuio: installing things to separate partitions like that isn't how package management works
[16:44] <iceroot> vol7ron: so if there is no network you cant have a FQDN of course
[16:45] <iceroot> vol7ron: and also its only a waring, not an error
[16:45] <GeBo> @plitter: maybe with   for i in `seq 1 10`;do mkdir name$i;done
[16:45] <Fifas> I guess openssh server on ubuntu 9.10 sucks a bit. the problem is that before upgrade it was running fine
[16:45] <vol7ron> iceroot: i guess i'm misunderstanding by what you mean with "network"
[16:45] <BillRulz> Linux sux
[16:45] <vol7ron> iceroot: i would assume there is a network
[16:45] <GeBo> windows sux more
[16:45] <Dreamglider> hehe
[16:45] <plitter> h00k: i've already checked that one...
[16:45] <Killa> Hey, uh, I just updated my system from 9.10 to 10.04, and whenever I try to boot now, I get the message:"nForce_smbus 0000:00:0a.1 Error probing SMB1" (I'm using a nVidia mobo and 2x gpus) does anyone know what would cause this/how to fix it?
[16:45] <azertuio> ok what i have to do ?
[16:45] <isset> Dreamglider, now that link is down :/
[16:45] <iceroot> BillRulz: stop it
[16:46] <azertuio> i really need kde
[16:46] <Fifas> every OS sux, linux just sux a little bit less
[16:46] <versek> hey someone can helpme
[16:46] <iceroot> vol7ron: you need a real ip-adress on an eth-device
[16:46] <azertuio> how to installl that package ? h00k
[16:46] <iceroot> azertuio: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:46] <Dreamglider> isset,  http://www.ipodlinux.org/wiki/IDoom it's not down here !
[16:46] <versek> i have troubles with tty1
[16:46] <h00k> azertuio: you can install KDE along side your GNOME environment. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. You can then choose what environment you can boot into at the login manager
[16:46] <plitter> versek: they probably can;)
[16:46] <azertuio> the system partition is full
[16:46] <h00k> azertuio: you're going to have to resize it, then.
[16:46] <Fifas> can anyone help me out with OPENSSH-SERVER ON UBUNTU 9.10!!!!???????????????
[16:47] <h00k> !caps | Fifas
[16:47] <azertuio> i can't rezise my parition
[16:47] <vol7ron> iceroot: i think it uses the nat from the host
[16:47] <isset> Dreamglider, yeah but it links to this site: http://idoom.hyarion.com/ and this side is down :/
[16:47] <azertuio> i got a remote server
[16:47] <smt> anybody who (successfully) played around with DSDT Tables?
[16:47] <wenze> who can tell me how to install gtk+
[16:47] <iceroot> vol7ron: then put that ip into /etc/hosts
[16:47] <h00k> azertuio: You will need to resize the partition, there is not a way of installing it to another partition.
[16:47] <iceroot> vol7ron: ifconfig is tellung the ip
[16:47] <pkkm> How to change one word into another using a pipe?
[16:48] <iceroot> pkkm: sed 's/oldword/newword/'
[16:48] <pkkm> thanks
[16:48] <versek> but anyone answer me
[16:48] <versek> xd
[16:48] <Fifas> well, I guess everyone can read in lowercase but noone can really help me out
[16:49] <vol7ron> iceroot: btw, thx for the help -- but I don't get why I need to set that address for ubuntu
[16:49] <h00k> Fifas: Feel free to browse the forums while you wait for someone that is able to
[16:49] <Fifas> even the launchpad bug is idle for two days
[16:49] <Fifas> I will fell free to uninstall ubuntu
[16:49] <vol7ron> iceroot: ifconfig is showing the eth0 and lo for the ethernet and localhost
[16:49] <iceroot> vol7ron: you need a FQDN for a real ip-adress
[16:49] <iceroot> vol7ron: so that the domainname can be assigned to an ip
[16:49] <versek> iceroot
[16:50] <azertyui> my server is a remote server
[16:50] <fixxxermet> I kind of did a chmod -R 777 / on my system and now I'm having all sorts of problems.  Is there any easy way to fix the system permissions?
[16:50] <azertyui> i can't access physically on it
[16:50] <versek> iceroot can you help me
[16:50] <Fifas> h00k already did that, the forum replies always tell me the same thing. TO DO over and over again the same procedures I already did
[16:50] <versek> who can help me
[16:50] <azertyui> iceroot:
[16:50] <iceroot> versek: depending on the question
[16:50] <h00k> !anyone | versek
[16:50] <azertyui> h00k:
[16:50] <azertyui> my server is a remote server
[16:50] <azertyui> i can't access physically on it
[16:50] <myron> I am having trouble setting up my modem
[16:50] <wenze> hey
[16:50] <azertyui> so i can't resize my patition
[16:51] <Killa> Hey, I just updated my system from 9.10 to 10.04, and whenever I try to boot now, I get the message:"nForce_smbus 0000:00:0a.1 Error probing SMB1" (I'm using a nVidia mobo and 2x nvidia GPUs) does anyone know what would cause this/how to fix it?
[16:51] <myron> on ubuntu 9.10 with faxaddmodem ,but it works with wvdial
[16:51] <azertyui> my sys partition
[16:51] <iceroot> Killa: #ubuntu+1
[16:51] <h00k> azertyui: I understand. If your / partition is full, you'll either have to uninstall something, or resize the partition.
[16:51] <vol7ron> iceroot: i guess I'll manage --- I'm assuming the ubuntu isn't necessary in /etc/hosts -- i'm not sure what that's used for (just addressing the local machine?)
[16:51] <bastid_raZor> Killa: /join #ubuntu+1 for lucid/10.04 support
[16:51] <Dreamglider> isset, have a look at rockbox.
[16:51] <Killa> Oh, thanks.
[16:51] <azertyui> ok tell me how to resize a patition which is full
[16:51] <iceroot> vol7ron: its for the FQDN
[16:51] <iceroot> vol7ron: the name of the host for an ip-adress
[16:52] <azertyui> without booting from livecd
[16:52] <wenze> hi everybody
[16:52] <azertyui> is that possible ?
[16:52] <iceroot> azertyui: deleting useless stuff
[16:52] <hmw> how can i turn on video-thumbnailing on the desktop?
[16:52] <azertyui> or what is the solution for my case ?
[16:52] <bodom> Anybody knows how to recreate MRTG index files?
[16:52] <iceroot> azertyui: and sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[16:52] <azertyui> all package are necessary
[16:52] <azertyui> i can't remove package
[16:52] <versek> on
[16:52] <iceroot> azertyui: have a look at the manpage what autoremove does
[16:53] <pkkm> How to do something with every line of a file?
[16:53] <iceroot> azertyui: man apt-get
[16:53] <vol7ron> iceroot: but I'm going to assume that the IP address is going to change since I use DHCP
[16:53] <h00k> azertyui: you won't be able to on a running system
[16:53] <azertyui> iceroot: i don't want to remove package
[16:53] <versek> i have troubles con tty1
[16:53] <iceroot> vol7ron: normally dhcp is giving you everytime the same ip
[16:53] <myron> wvdial will dial the number and everything works great. faxaddmodem outputs that it can't find the type of modem I have. any thoughts?
[16:53] <fV> szuasztij
[16:53] <iceroot> azertyui: read the manpage, its not removung package which are used
[16:53] <azertyui> i just want to resize system partition
[16:54] <fV> vki tudna segiteni?
[16:54] <h00k> azertyui: you will need access to the machine and won't be able to do it remotely, I've said this.
[16:54] <iceroot> azertyui: use a live-cd for resizing, no other way
[16:54] <wolter> anybody with an xps m1530 and 10.04 getting wireless problems at startup?
[16:54] <iceroot> wolter: #ubuntu+1
[16:54] <h00k> !lucid | wolter
[16:54] <azertyui> phycall access i can't
[16:54] <h00k> azertyui: then you won't be able to.
[16:54] <iceroot> azertyui: then its not possible
[16:55] <azertyui> that's why i m trying to find an other solution, if i have physicall access on my pc
[16:55] <fV> ext3 or ext4 better
[16:55] <fV> ?
[16:55] <azertyui> for me it's too easy to resize things
[16:55] <iceroot> fV: there is no "better"
[16:55] <fV> i have problem in instal
[16:55] <fV> ubunut 9.10
[16:55] <h00k> azertyui: If your partition is full, you cannot add more. If you cannot remove anything, it will stay full, and you're out of luck.
[16:55] <fV> username invalid
[16:56] <fV> "lower-case letter" problem
[16:56] <iceroot> azertyui: read the manpackage what autoremove and clean are doing then run that commands
[16:56] <versek> i have troubles with tty1
[16:56] <versek> i wanna to configure videocard but i have to stop gdm.
[16:56] <versek> when i do  appear login tty1 and my user and password does not work
[16:56] <azertyui> ok tell me about compiling package i never done this before
[16:56] <wolter> is anybody having wireless problems at startup?
[16:56] <h00k> versek: please keep things all on one line, it makes things a lot easier to read
[16:56] <vol7ron> iceroot: well thank you very much for the information. I still am somewhat confused why that line was set there initially, or why I need to do anything to modify it, but if it's not necessary, then I'll just keep it as is :)  The only other question is -- is there a System>Administration>Services menu anywhere?
[16:56] <h00k> !packaging | azertyui
[16:56] <azertyui> if i get source and put it on second parititon which is empty
[16:57] <rqiao> Hey I have a question. I just installed itunes 7.2 using wine. it worked but when i open it, it runs very slowly. how do i fix it
[16:57] <versek> xd
[16:57] <h00k> azertyui: when you install it, it will need to put things on your / partition. There is no other way to do this.
[16:57] <iceroot> azertyui: can you stop telling us the second partition problem?
[16:57] <iceroot> azertyui: we told you what to do
[16:58] <iceroot> wolter: no
[16:58] <xangua> rqiao: try in #wine and chec the appdb
[16:58] <xangua> !appdb
[16:58] <azertyui> is it possible to put source code on the second partition and make install from the second partition?
[16:58] <h00k> azertyui: No.
[16:58] <xangua> ooh is #winehq
[16:58] <h00k> azertyui: when you install it, it will put it with the rest of the system where it needs to be.
[16:58] <h00k> azertyui: We have told you all of your options.
[16:58] <myron> I am having trouble setting up my modem with faxaddmodem, any one have any experience with this?
[16:58] <vol7ron> Is there a comparable System>Administration>Services app anywhere?
[16:58] <andiolsi> öä
[16:58] <iceroot> azertyui: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[16:59] <iceroot> azertyui: man apt-get if you dont trust me
[16:59] <greezmunkey> myron: what are you going to use the modem for?
[16:59] <myron> receiving faxes... saving them to my computer instead of printing every single one out
[17:00] <mark1> whats up
[17:00] <hmw> vol7ron: no, it has been removed (i suppose temporarily. still missing in lucid lynx) - try sysv-rc-conf from the command line
[17:00] <myron> wvdial works, I went through the configuration, and had wvdial call my cell phone to test it. Everything worked...
[17:00] <mark1> so does anyone know how to set up duel screen, cause i can only seem to manage to clone it or stretch it... ?
[17:01] <vol7ron> hmw: thank you hmw
[17:01] <myron> greezmunkey: but when I run faxaddmodem, it outputs that it can not find the type of my device
[17:01] <fV> "the username you entered is invalid. Note that usernames must start with a lower case letter, which can be followed....."
[17:01] <fV> i have this problem
[17:01] <greezmunkey> myron: hylafax?
[17:01] <vol7ron> thank you all, specifically iceroot and hmw
[17:01] <myron> greezmunkey: yup
[17:01] <iceroot> fV: the enter a username with a lower-case-char
[17:01] <greezmunkey> myron: usb modem?
[17:01] <hoglahoo> I just cloned my bootable hard drive to a new, larger hard drive.  Can someone tell me how to install grub2 to the new non-booting drive?
[17:01] <fV> ok
[17:02] <myron> greezmunkey: no PCI. Conexant using HSF driver that is already installed
[17:03] <greezmunkey> myron: oh, ok. you should have a /dev/ttyS0 - do you?
[17:03] <dougmencken> hello there; so can you help me with cd-rom automounting issue?
[17:03] <wids2> Do
[17:03] <myron> greezmunkey: I do, but that is not the serial port for the modem...
[17:04] <greezmunkey> myron: which com port is it, 3?
[17:04] <myron> greezmunkey: running wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf told me that it found a modem at /dev/ttySHSF0 using link /dev/modem in config
[17:05] <greezmunkey> myron: looking through your previous posts, did you post an error msg...
[17:06] <dougmencken> CD don't automount, usb flash drives automount fine
[17:06] <andiolsi> whats the name of the gui for software installation?
[17:06] <dougmencken> after manual 'sudo mount ...' CD is okay
[17:06] <andiolsi> (via apt/dpkg)
[17:06] <bastid_raZor> andiolsi: synaptic
[17:06] <andiolsi> thx
[17:07] <smt> does anybody know where to look what happens when acpi fires fan-control or cpu speed events? (system freezes than)
[17:07] <fV> nothing happened :(
[17:08] <myron> the only error message that I am getting is when running faxaddmodem "we were unable to deduce what type of modem you have. This means that it did not respond as a class1, class 2, or class 2.0 modem should...."
[17:08] <dougmencken> mount: block device /dev/hde is write-protected, mounting read-only << manually mounting is okay
[17:08] <greezmunkey> myron: run in a terminal: lspci -v - see if your modem is recognized...
[17:09] <norbi905> I installed Ubuntu using the minimal cd.  Finally managed to get a window manager running, now i'm onto sound.  I have a Sound Blaster Audigy card, what is it that i'm looking for?  I'm asuming something along the lines of ALSA, or is the creative drive good enough?  Thanks for any suggestions
[17:09] <myron> greezmunkey: yes, the modem is recognized as a conexant HSF modem
[17:09] <dougmencken> any help with auto-mounting?
[17:10] <LtHummus> is there any way to have updates automatically install in the background?
[17:10] <hmw> how can i prevent karmic from using frame buffer? i cant switch to console, it does not show anything (it still seems active)
[17:11] <versek> finally someone will help me
[17:11] <greezmunkey> myron: in /dev what are the group/user settings of /dev/ttySHSFO ?
[17:12] <Ganymede> LtHummus, there's unattended-upgrades...google for ubuntu unattended-upgrades and the answer is on some blog...
[17:12] <LtHummus> thank you Ganymede
[17:12] <Ganymede> LtHummus, involves installing unattended-upgrades, editing something in /etc/apt/apt.conf/.d/50unattendedupgrades or something and another setting in /etc/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[17:13] <tvw> I want to setup some vhosts for apache. Now I wonder where to put the documentroot. /var/www already is a document root for default.
[17:13] <myron> crw-rw----
[17:13] <myron> greezmunkey: crw-rw----
[17:13] <greezmunkey> myron: run ls -laF in /dev - you are looking for like root root, or root tty, etc...
[17:13] <Ganymede> LtHummus, on top of that, you'll have to system -> administration -> software sources or package manager to not bother you on the desktop when it detects that updates are available
[17:13] <myron> greezmunkey: but I am running faxaddmodem with superuser
[17:14] <dougmencken> guys, can you just ask me "we don't know", why do you ignore me?
[17:14] <dougmencken> s/ask/tell/
[17:14] <fV> pls help...ubuntu instalation> step 8 > invalid username ....
[17:14] <LtHummus> Ganymede: yeah I have that set already, I just want updates (mostly security related) to go automatically
[17:14] <guntbert> !patience | doug
[17:14] <myron> greezmunkey: root dialout
[17:14] <crystal> hi. i have 9.10 with broken X startup scripts. It launches login screen, and when I log in, it does not start gnome-session, but instead just shows a graphical terminal screen if I type in there gnome-session, it starts OK. where should I look to fix that? i.e to make gdm to launch gnome-session?
[17:14] <LtHummus> I'm running XBMC on Ubuntu as a media center and I have ssh open to the world (not on port 22 and password authentication is disabled), but I'm still paranoid
[17:15] <Sia-> tvw, use sites-available + ln -s
[17:15] <melm> when I run synaptic manager i get "E: Type 'n' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bisigi-ppa-karmic.list
[17:15] <melm> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[17:15] <melm> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[17:15] <melm> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:15] <melm> "
[17:15] <FloodBot1> melm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <Ganymede> dougmencken, we don't know what everyone else on this channel knows so we can't say, "we don't know"...unless you want all 1513 people on the channel to respond with, "i don't know, doug"
[17:15] <greezmunkey> myron: change that with chown root:users /dev/ttySHSF0
[17:15] <myron> greezmunkey: so if I am reading this right, the modem only has permission to dial out, and not receive calls?
[17:15] <greezmunkey> myron: you're getting there :)
[17:16] <greezmunkey> myron: you'll have to sudo that last one sorry!
[17:16] <myron> yup
[17:16] <andiolsi> WOW
[17:16] <andiolsi> the apple keys work?
[17:16] <myron> greezmunkey: done
[17:16] <Ganymede> LtHummus, if it makes you feel safer, i don't think anyone is bent on hacking your home media center box...i think hackers mostly go for computers on high speed networks, maybe they attack banks and anyone dealing with money/personal information...and windows boxes because they're low hanging fruit
[17:17] <myron> greezmunkey: try running faxaddmodem again?
[17:17] <LtHummus> Ganymede: yeah I know, but it can't hurt :)
[17:17] <greezmunkey> myron: when you ran setup, did you take the defaults, especially the device ??
[17:18] <andiolsi> what is the recommended method of remapping keys under xorg?
[17:18] <tvw> Sia-: there is no directory sites-available in /var
[17:18] <myron> greezmunkey: I took all of the defaults except the fax number and area code
[17:18] <tom19192> Hi. I am using Ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix, with dual screens. When I try to play a video in mplayer or gstreamer, the video doesn't appear. Rather, a black box is visible where the video should be.
[17:18] <greezmunkey> myron: you may want to revisit that, and use /dev/ttySHSF0 instead of /dev/modem
[17:19] <tom19192> It works when using one monitor.
[17:19] <LyLi> hello everybody's
[17:19] <greezmunkey> myron: otherwise, try to complete the setup...
[17:19] <LyLi> :( no French ?
[17:20] <myron> greezmunkey: I just tried it.  "sudo faxaddmodem" using ttySHSF0 output the same error message
[17:20] <guntbert> !fr | lycidas
[17:20] <guntbert> lycidas: sorry
[17:21] <Sia-> tvw, is in /etc/apache2
[17:21] <myron> greezmunkey: I am going to reboot and try again...
[17:21] <Sia-> tvw, use find
[17:21] <Sia-> or locate
[17:21] <tvw> Sia-: that is the config dir, I already found it. I was asking, where to put the documentroot.
[17:22] <Sia-> tvw, sudo nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[17:22] <versek> ok thank for nathing
[17:22] <Sia-> or vim
[17:22] <Sia-> versek, what?
[17:22] <shiheir> hi. how do i check my ubuntu version... 32 or 64 bit if uname -a is: Linux lappy 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:22] <acicula> shiheir: lsb_release -a
[17:23] <Sia-> shiheir,  uname -r
[17:23] <guntbert> shiheir: i686 means 32bit
[17:23] <Sia-> Oh, ubuntu doesn't diplay the arch?  :(
[17:23] <shiheir> i686 is the arch, right?
[17:23] <tvw> Sia-: That tells me, that the document root for the default site is /var/www. What I want to know is, where to put the document root for new vhosts. Is there a recommended place?
[17:24] <acicula> shiheir: sortof, it means its 32bit and 686 is the minimum processor needed to run it
[17:24] <shiheir> acicula: ah ok thanks a lot
[17:24] <Sia-> tvw, create new vhost for example /etc/apache2/sites-available/www.tvw.com
[17:24] <acicula> so pentium two or better
[17:24] <Sia-> and restart the apache
[17:25] <tvw> Sia-: There is a difference between a config file and where the html-files finally go: the latter one is the document root.
[17:25] <Sia-> shiheir, 64bit => 4Gb Ram
[17:25] <ugliefrog> occasionally my keyboard acts like there is a key stuck i have to unplug my keyboard and plug it back in....anyone know what causes this?
[17:25] <Sia-> tvw, icanøt understand what you want actually
[17:27] <tvw> Sia-: the documentroot for default is /var/www. What would be the documentroot for a new vhost which has its own documentroot?
[17:27] <Sia-> creating website with vhhost in ubuntu is most easier thnx drinking tea
[17:27] <devunt> Do you know ROKS Cheonan (PCC-772)?
[17:27] <Anf> how can i use ubuntu like a dedi
[17:27] <fauzy> good morning.
[17:27] <Sia-> tvw, /var/www/mysites or blabla
[17:28] <evilbug> what program can i burn an open-session disc with?
[17:28] <Sia-> fauzy, ws
[17:28] <fauzy> ws?
[17:28] <fauzy> tn
[17:28] <Sia-> wa alikum salam fauzy
[17:28] <tvw> Sia-: /var/www/mysites will be in the document root of default, so this cannot be the solution.
[17:28] <fauzy> ahh
[17:28] <myron> greezmunkey: nope still getting the same error message.. what should I try next?
[17:28] <fauzy> i dont speak farsi if your speaking farsi. but hello!
[17:29] <Sia-> tvw, point docoroot to any folder you want
[17:29] <Sia-> fauzy, me too
[17:29] <fauzy> help needed>>udev rules file not sticking
[17:30] <greezmunkey> myron: hold a sec...
[17:30] <fauzy> have logs
[17:30] <tvw> Sia-: OK, there is no recommended place. Since the config files had a sophisticated layout, I expected the same for where to put document root.
[17:30] <tvw> Sia-: Thanks anyway.
[17:30] <myron> greezmunkey: ok... Thanks!
[17:30] <fauzy> udev problem
[17:30] <greezmunkey> myron: what string are you using with faxaddmodem (you can leave the pwords out)
[17:31] <fauzy> hmm... do i need to go to another channel for 10.4
[17:31] <fauzy> ??
[17:31] <bastid_raZor> fauzy: #ubuntu+1
[17:31] <myron> "sudo faxaddmodem"
[17:31] <fauzy> thanks
[17:31] <greezmunkey> myron: I'll post something for you, brb...
[17:31] <myron> greezmunkey: that's all I'm typing..
[17:32] <isolat3dsh33p> hey guys, where does th configuration for the customize folder icons located?
[17:32] <myron> greezmunkey: ok
[17:32] <Anf> how can ubuntu be run like windows server
[17:32] <alexbligh1> Anf: run dbench in he background
[17:32] <Sia-> tvw, vhost can create 100000 vhost, just point the docroot to the directory you want, for example mysite is desian.dk pointed to my /home/sia/desian.public/
[17:32] <Anf> thank you alexbligh1
[17:33] <greezmunkey> myron: look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/422279/
[17:33] <Sia-> the default one pointed to /var/www , for more infos or advanced use please join #httpd
[17:33] <greezmunkey> Anf: see Samba
[17:34] <Anf> really i just need to have multiple users able to connect
[17:34] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: Here>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632863
[17:34] <Anf> to their accs and run servers
[17:34] <greezmunkey> Anf: so add users and sshd, all text mode though.
[17:34] <Anf> oh
[17:35] <Anf> any graphical way to do it
[17:35] <Sia-> gksu
[17:35] <norbi905> I'm having problems with running alsa as a regular user.  If I start lets say firefox, youtube plays audio just fine.  But starting firefox under regular user, I get errors from ALSA.  Which group do I have to add myself to make this work?
[17:35] <JetPackTuxedo> Is anyone here using XChat?
[17:35] <ubuntubama> Enter text here...
[17:35] <greezmunkey> Anf: possibly, I haven't looked into that though. sorry.
[17:35] <acicula> norbi905: none usually
[17:36] <Anf> ok thanks anyway
[17:36] <myron> greezmunkey: ok, I've run faxadduser
[17:36] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, that's not what I meant
[17:36] <geirha> ubuntubama: Yes, that's where you enter the text :)
[17:36] <brando753> anyone know the uri to enter into cups for a infared printer?
[17:36] <guntbert> ubuntubama:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:37] <evilbug> what cd making app has the capability to leave a session open?
[17:37] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: Maybe in Main Menu? or do you mean change/alter permissions?
[17:37] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, I'm talking about the folder icons that you customize using the properties from the right click. Where each folders can have different icons.
[17:37] <greezmunkey> myron: while you were away I found a link that may help: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_hylafax_server
[17:37] <norbi905> acicula: Hmm that's really strange then, since running firefox as a regual user does not work.  I'm getting errors from ALSA such as "lib ../../src/conf.c function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory."  This does not happen when launching firefox as root.  Maybe source file directory needs my user permission i suppose?
[17:38] <Buhmillion> iI'm trying to setup havp on my ubuntu server, with squid. All havp did was break a running squid configuration. No part of squid is working.the havp logs said it started up, and squid seems to be running, but nothing works. any thoughts?
[17:38] <jquiterio> some body, can help me to open a .dwg file ?
[17:38] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: Ah, let me check that, what version?
[17:38] <acicula> norbi905: what distro are you using, and what pakcages did you install from source?
[17:38] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, 10.04. :)
[17:39] <greezmunkey> jquiterio: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2006-03/msg01521.html
[17:39] <Buhmillion> iI'm trying to setup havp on my ubuntu server, with squid. All havp did was break a running squid configuration. No part of squid is working.the havp logs said it started up, and squid seems to be running, but nothing works. any thoughts?
[17:39] <norbi905> acicula: I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 minimal install.  I installed alsa which I think installed alsa-base.  After which I ran alsamixer to configure the card.  Alsamixer gave me the same errors though when running under regular user, I can only launch it with sudo.
[17:40] <acicula> norbi905: ubuntu-server minimal or ?
[17:40] <acicula> norbi905: maybe a case of groups then
[17:41] <norbi905> acicula: Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" Minimal CD.  Which was a 12MB download.
[17:41] <greezmunkey> !pm | Fv
[17:41] <acicula> thats just a net install cd that installs the ubuntu system
[17:41] <Yum|---> Boa Tarde | Good afternoon
[17:41] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: GTK?
[17:43] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, yeah, nautilus. And this is what I meant -> http://imagebin.org/94308
[17:44] <Ddorda> is it possible to remove all applications but those who comes after installation
[17:46] <acicula> Ddorda: you can remove unneeded applications via add/remove programs or the ubuntu software center
[17:46] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: Is it an .svg file?
[17:46] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, nope, png or jpg.
[17:47] <Ddorda> acicula: I want to remove all the programs in on time... sounds possible?
[17:47] <JetPackTuxedo> Does anyone know how to stop XChat from quiting when it is closed? On my last install it stayed in the system tray.
[17:47] <acicula> Ddorda: no , it doesnt
[17:47] <Ddorda> acicula: okay, thanks
[17:47] <acicula> JetPackTuxedo: its an option, minimize to systemtray
[17:48] <pcfreak30> I just got ubuntu installed on a very weird laptop. im having trouble getting the model of my wifi card and getting the drivers to use it. i already installed propietary drivers for the ethernet.
[17:48] <JetPackTuxedo> acicula: hmmm... I'll look through settings again.
[17:49] <esplinter1> 1
[17:49] <andrewmin> I'm looking for a good desktop search engine that _searches inside of files_. does anyone have any good suggestions?
[17:49] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: maybe>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417564&highlight=desktop+icons
[17:49] <JetPackTuxedo> acicula, I'm not seeing it
[17:50] <datz> hi, how can I check to see if there are any updates from the cmd line
[17:50] <datz> ?
[17:50] <andrewmin> datz: sudo apt-get update
[17:50] <hotelprotn> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. THIS CHAT IS TOO FUNNY FOR ME XDDDD. ERUSUL: YOU ARE THE BEST JOKER MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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[17:50] <hotelprotn> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. THIS CHAT IS TOO FUNNY FOR ME XDDDD. ERUSUL: YOU ARE THE BEST JOKER MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[17:50] <FloodBot1> hotelprotn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:50] <andrewmin> datz: or sudo aptitude update
[17:51] <flags8192> Here it is possible to communicate only in English?
[17:51] <datz> andrewmin: I ran this but it doesn't tell me if there are any updates
[17:51] <andrewmin> datz: run sudo aptitutde safe-upgrade and it will prompt you with a list of updates
[17:51] <datz> thanks
[17:51] <guntbert> !ru | flags8192
[17:51] <acicula> flags8192: yes, but there are channels dedicated to other channels
[17:51] <pcfreak30> How can i figure out my wifi card model.
[17:51] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, I know how to do it. But I want too look for the config files. If any.
[17:52] <flags8192> thanks
[17:52] <datz> andrewmin: aptitude not found?
[17:52] <andrewmin> datz: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[17:52] <datz> kk :)
[17:53] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: Here> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1452998&highlight=desktop+icons :> scroll down to Morales post, looks like the /conf/ setup is linked there, still looking though.
[17:54] <datz> humm, invalid operation safe-upgrade
[17:54] <JetPackTuxedo> acicula, I couldn't find a setting for it. There was a "use system tray icon" setting, but it was checked. I have a systray icon, it just quits when I close the window, which it didn't do before.
[17:55] <acicula> do you have a systray?
[17:55] <freezway> Hey, I need help setting my tty resolution to 1920x1080 instead of 1024x768. Also I want to remove my splash when I boot. I am using Karmic and my /etc/default/grub file is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9172528#post9172528
[17:57] <JetPackTuxedo> acicula, yeah, it's there. XChat is even it it, but when I close the window it quits instead of minimizing to the tray.
[17:57] <twisted`> yo, I got a HD4870 with 2 displays connected. I just configured it using the CCC to use Xinerama
[17:57] <twisted`> but now if I drag a window it heavily tears around the edges of the screens
[17:57] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, I gave up T_T... seems like there's no config file anywhere. Or maybe it's hidden somewhere. Thanks for your time though ;)
[17:58] <myron> greezmunkey: ok, I've read over that link. I have done everything there, but the command faxsetup also runs faxaddmodem, and that is where the process is failing.
[17:58] <whiteangelus> #ubuntu-es
[17:58] <Vigo> isolat3dsh33p: Now you have me looking. I am also on 10.
[17:58] <sab> how can i use google video chat on ubuntu?
[17:58] <wolter> isolat3dsh33p, lol i know where they are
[17:59] <wolter> I think, you mean the music, downloads, videos icons?
[17:59] <xangua> sab: pidgin (ver 2.6) and empathy support xmpp voice and video
[17:59] <xangua> have you tried with them¿
[18:00] <wolter> oh nvm, I see your not talking about that
[18:00] <smt> remove package usplash to disable boot-splash freezway
[18:01] <isolat3dsh33p> wolter, nope. I thought there should be a config file changed after you change any icons on nautilus file browser. So I'm trying to find it so that I could make a script to change each folder that contains folder.jpg will change the folder icon to that specific image file. But, seems like the config file can't be found. :(
[18:01] <freezway> smt, how do i get rid of it in my etc/default/grub file though?
[18:03] <isolat3dsh33p> Vigo, haha. Sorry. 10.04 is quite awesome here and there. But hal removal makes me clueless on how to restart the sound. :(
[18:03] <wolter> isolat3dsh33p, I think there is no such thing,  but you can get this done easily
[18:03] <wolter> isolat3dsh33p, check this out: http://osdir.com/ml/nautilus-list/2009-10/msg00015.html
[18:03] <smt> remove "quiet splash" from kernel line freezway
[18:04] <isolat3dsh33p> qq
[18:04] <isolat3dsh33p> oops... wrong input area
[18:04] <freezway> smt, so just a blank string?
[18:04] <smt> if you dont need other options there, yes
[18:05] <TyanColte> i've been getting this error http://pastebin.com/TfWcTn2T when i try to access my ntfs drive after automounting
[18:06] <isolat3dsh33p> wolter, that's good enough! thanks :D
[18:06] <wolter> ok
[18:06] <wolter> no problem :)
[18:06] <Gene> I have a comp i'm attempting to load , it's an ecs 945-m motherboard, 1 gig of ddr2. sata drives 80 gig and 40 gig. 3.4 ghz intel processor. I've loaded xp pro (which works fine (after upgrades),, neither ubuntu 9.10 or ubuntu 10.04 will work, either by loading on a drive, or by running off the disk, they both lock up and nothing responds at all. I'm fairly sure that there's a problem with support of the chips on the board, How would you suggest i research the pr
[18:06] <ubuntubama> time out code 1684 exe
[18:07] <smt> gene, disable acpi, same problem here
[18:07] <wolter> lol.. ubuntubama
[18:09] <kerospipa__> wolter: Eat my pennis
[18:09] <kerospipa__> wolter: Drin my eggs' sperm
[18:09] <xangua> !ops | kerospipa__
[18:09] <kerospipa__> wolter: Suck your mother's tits
[18:10] <wolter> lol, where did that came from?
[18:10] <Engrish_Man> how can i make ubuntu boots only in console mode (that "xconsole") and dont start the X
[18:11] <ikonia> Engrish_Man: common cause is the graphics card not being configured correctly
[18:11] <wolter> Engrish_Man, it sounds to me you can disable some scripts in init.d, but I wouldn't know
[18:11] <Engrish_Man> im using only console (cause i want)... i wanna install xorg, i wanna be able to use it only when i do startx
[18:11] <freezway> Engrish_Man, you dont have to
[18:11] <Gene> smt,   just disabled acpi, problem still exists. booted up, tried to open firefox, immediate lockup
[18:12] <Engrish_Man> init.d right
[18:12] <freezway> Engrish_Man, after booting go to a tty and type sudo service gdm stop and it will kill X
[18:12] <An_Ony_Moose> for upgrading to the RC, is it possible to download the packages now then actually upgrade later?
[18:12] <smt> how did u disable gene? in bios? do it in grub
[18:12] <An_Ony_Moose> (or is this  a question for #ubuntu+1)?
[18:12] <Gene> how to do in grub?
[18:12] <smt> karmic?
[18:12] <Engrish_Man> freezway: if i do that... im gonna have to do it everytime i boot right?
[18:12] <Gene> smt ^^
[18:13] <freezway> yes
[18:13] <Gene> smt,,, how do i disable it in grub?
[18:13] <JetPackTuxedo> An_Ony_Moose,  I would imagine you could do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d
[18:13] <smt> just a second gene
[18:13] <Gene> k
[18:14] <hmw> i dont get thumbnails of video files on the desktop - how can i activate that?
[18:14] <JetPackTuxedo> An_Ony_Moose, No guarantees, but that should attempt to do a dist-upgrade without installing any packages.
[18:15] <dalton> WOLTER FUCKER IDIOT GAY
[18:15] <dalton> WOLTER: FUCK YOU DICKS EATER
[18:15] <dalton> WOLTER: EAT MY PENNIS
[18:15] <dalton> WOLTER: EAT MY PENNIS
[18:15] <dalton> WOLTER: SUCK MY DICK
[18:15] <FloodBot1> dalton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <dalton> WOLTER FUCKER IDIOT GAY
[18:15] <wolter> !ops | dalton
[18:15] <hmw> !ops | dalton
[18:15] <An_Ony_Moose> JetPackTuxedo, I mean to upgrade to the 10.04 RC
[18:15] <wolter> hm, intelligent ubottu
[18:16] <maco> ikonia: jeez you are FAST
[18:16] <wolter> trolls hate me all of a sudden
[18:16] <pablo> alquien q hable español¿?
[18:16] <ikonia> !es | pablo
[18:16] <pablo> gracias!!
[18:17] <Engrish_Man> denadas
[18:17] <hnd> i installed ubuntu 9.10 using bootable usb... it wiped out windows option from it... so i tried updating my menu.lst... but menu.lst is empty... any help???
[18:17] <pshr> Hello, I would like to know if there is a way to configure ubuntu for answering the calls of phone via bluetooth using Laptop's Microphone / Headset ?
[18:17] <An_Ony_Moose> hnd, menu.lst is obsolete
[18:17] <wolter> hnd, sudo update-grub ?
[18:17] <JetPackTuxedo> An_Ony_Moose, would that not do it? I think dist-upgrade would try to install 10.04 RC
[18:17] <wolter> hnd, that'll fill up your menu I believe
[18:18] <pshr> If any one ws successful in doing so or if you know kindly help me out
[18:18] <hnd> wolter: no success
[18:18] <wolter> An_Ony_Moose, is right though
[18:18] <pshr> !bluetooth
[18:18] <inglor> hey, I have a quick question, my sound slider (top right corner) is missing and I can't find an applet for it in my applets list
[18:18] <wolter> hnd, I thint /boot/grub/grub.conf is used now
[18:18] <wolter> or something like that
[18:18] <inglor> the keyboard shortcuts for sound up/down work, but there is no volume control button
[18:18] <An_Ony_Moose> I'm pretty sure dist-upgrade just upgrades all upgradable packages using a certain method to select dependencies...
[18:18] <pshr> hnd: its grub.cfg
[18:18] <hnd> wolter: 1 sec
[18:18] <pshr> in /boot/grub
[18:19] <switch10_> inglor: its under indicator applet in add to panel
[18:19] <Kangarooo> is it true that after kernel 2.6.30 ext4 is faster then xfs?
[18:19] <hmw> does anyone with karmic or lucid see thumbnails of videos, if they are on the desktop?
[18:19] <inglor> switch10_: under indicator applet all I get is a mail icon, and it's monitoring mail, empathy, etc
[18:19] <matrix17> hi
[18:19] <hnd> pshr wolter: thnx :D
[18:20] <An_Ony_Moose> hmw, I do
[18:20] <pshr> Hello, I would like to know if there is a way to configure ubuntu for answering the calls of phone via bluetooth using Laptop's Microphone / Headset ?
[18:20] <pshr> np hnd
[18:20] <hmw> what could be broken? thumbnails work in subfolders
[18:20] <wolter> np
[18:20] <hmw> totally fresh install
[18:21] <gnulu> how do i know which hard drive has linux installed that i'm currently using
[18:21] <pcfreak30> how can i figure out what model my wifi card is
[18:21] <BluesKaj> pshr, skype ?
[18:21] <gnulu> i have sda, sdb, sdc
[18:21] <sander> hi good friends
[18:21] <hmw> gnulu: sudo mount
[18:21] <Engrish_Man> lspci
[18:21] <pcfreak30> i am seeing my ethernet, but not widi
[18:21] <Kangarooo> can I in installed system change ext4 to xfs? with live cd?
[18:21] <gnulu> all 3 are partitioned
[18:21] <sander> some here know a applet for gnome that shows free disk space???
[18:21] <Engrish_Man> iwconfig?
[18:21] <gnulu> all 3 have linux
[18:21] <gnulu> which one is the drive i'm actively using
[18:22] <hmw> sander: either try conky or simply use the system monitor
[18:22] <Kangarooo> sander: google gadjets
[18:22] <wolter> gnulu, i think its sda
[18:22] <hmw> gnulu: use "mount"
[18:22] <pshr> BluesKaj: not exactly I have used a feature in windows which automatically answers the call and I can talk in to the microphone and hear from speakers of the system
[18:22] <gnulu> is it always sda
[18:22] <wolter> but you can browse all of them for dirs like /home, /boot/
[18:22] <Kangarooo> sander: also add to toolbar new item- free sapce checker
[18:23] <gnulu> mount tells me the drive that is mounted
[18:23] <matrix17> hi
[18:23] <gnulu> what if all 3 are mounted
[18:23] <matrix17> iam new to backtrack 4
[18:23] <Kangarooo> what's faster now EXT4 or XFS?
[18:23] <gnulu> all 3 have identical versions of linux
[18:23] <gnulu> 10.04
[18:23] <hmw> gnulu the main system is the one named  "/"
[18:23] <_pg_> i want to access my ubuntu machine from home when im out, using VDC, how do I do this?
[18:23] <pshr> matrix17: so ?
[18:23] <sander> Kangarooo: i'll search here, thanks man!
[18:24] <pshr> _pg_: U mean VNC ?
[18:24] <matrix17> hi pshr
[18:24] <sander> hmw: thank-you!
[18:24] <BluesKaj> pshr, what's the "feature" in windows ?
[18:24] <_pg_> pshr: whoops yes
[18:24] <pshr> !hi | matrix17
[18:24] <switch10_> _pg_: open whichever port your vnc server uses on you router.
[18:24] <pshr> BluesKaj: I guess its bluetooth headset Audio gate way if I am not wrong
[18:25] <matrix17> i can't install wireless driver on my laptop
[18:25] <_pg_> switch10_: but how does it know which computer to connect to. I have multiple here at my house, and dont they all have the same external ip?
[18:25] <Kangarooo> what's lately happening to my comp is that at random moments programms closes/crashes. 10 times I experienced firefox crash. and today crashed vlc while firefox was also open
[18:25] <hmw> how can i get thumbnails back for the Desktop? They only work in any other folder
[18:25] <Engrish_Man> THEY have
[18:25] <pshr> _pg_: well you can go for ssh its more secure by the way
[18:25] <matrix17> although i can browse internet through wireless if there is no password
[18:25] <switch10_> _pg_: you connect to your external address found at whats my ip.com
[18:25] <JetPackTuxedo> _pg_ you'll need port forwarding
[18:25] <fox> matrix17 what kind of wireless adapter u have...? pls mention.
[18:26] <pcfreak30> So I am looking at my "Network Controller" in gnome-device-manager. Goives no model
[18:26] <Kangarooo> what to do? what problem im having?
[18:26] <switch10_> _pg_: followed by :portNnumber
[18:26] <sander> Kangarooo: package freespacechecker does not exist here in the repositories of intrepid ibex
[18:26] <_pg_> switch10_: pshr JetPackTuxedo I can forward a port but i dont understand how it decides which computer at my ip to connect to, as there are several
[18:26] <guntbert> !backtrack | matrix17
[18:26] <fox> matrix17 what kind of wireless adapter u have...? pls mention.
[18:26] <Kangarooo> sander:  no add to toolbar. left click toolbar->add new items
[18:26] <Ferchux> How can I close an udp port?
[18:27] <matrix17> my card type atheros ar9285
[18:27] <Engrish_Man> _pg_: do you know your pc's internal ip
[18:27] <switch10_> _pg_: you setup which IP on your LAN when you open the port
[18:27] <matrix17> my laptop is hpg61-456ee
[18:27] <_pg_> switch10_: so i need to open a port for each machine running a vnc server?
[18:27] <Kangarooo> sander: and scroll till you see something like free space checker or space monitor
[18:27] <fox> u must have tried through CD first....ubuntu?
[18:27] <sander> hmw: hey man, i want a applet for gnome panel, this conky is very cool but is not what i need
[18:28] <BluesKaj> pg , each pc is assigned an internal ip address , behind the router on your LAN
[18:28] <jack_> how do i view all hdd's and files in xubuntu, i can save files to other hdd but cant seem to find them in the file browser
[18:28] <_pg_> BluesKaj: yes
[18:28] <Engrish_Man> sander: google gadgets maybe?
[18:28] <moreece> ah, damn ATI drivers
[18:28] <matrix17> iam using backtrack 4 vmware
[18:28] <Kangarooo> sander: as toolbar I mean menu line witch you have on top and bottom
[18:28] <switch10_> _pg_: hmm, I'm not sure...  But I would imagine you would yes
[18:28] <sander> Kangarooo: this applet does not exist here :(
[18:28] <An_Ony_Moose> for upgrading to the RC, is it possible to download the packages now then actually upgrade later? all apt-get dist-upgrade does is update upgradable packages.
[18:28] <moreece> can someone pls help me with getting my "extra" visual effects enabled
[18:28] <An_Ony_Moose> or is it better to ask that in #ubuntu+1?
[18:28] <moreece> I someone managed to mess up  my drivers
[18:28] <fox> vmware with bt4 will simply will not work it always work from NAT.
[18:29] <_pg_> ok so, i need to setup a vnc server on ubuntu at home, then forward the port, then connect by xxx.xx.xx.xxx:PORT
[18:29] <sander> Kangarooo: my ubuntu is 8.10 (intrepid ibex)
[18:29] <switch10_> _pg_: you got it.
[18:29] <matrix17> nat not bridged
[18:29] <_pg_> where does ssh come in?
[18:29] <switch10_> _pg_: make sure you use a password :)
[18:29] <moreece> can anyone help me? :(
[18:29] <alekto> do anybody know a channel for PowerShell?
[18:29] <matrix17> but when i type ifconfig i can't see any driver
[18:29] <_pg_> switch10_: will do lol-thats why I want to know how ssh plays in
[18:29] <Kangarooo> sander: ok maybe old version is reason why you don't have that. but some updates you sometimes have yes?
[18:29] <mark1> whats up :)
[18:30] <switch10_> _pg_: someone was recommending you use ssh instead of VNC I think..
[18:30] <sander> Kangarooo: yes
[18:30] <fox> why do u use vmware, when u can directly boot it through CD-Rom and can wardrive with ease.
[18:30] <jack_> how do i view all hdd's and files in xubuntu, i can save files to other hdd but cant seem to find them in the file browser
[18:30] <maxagaz> how to synchronize google account (contacts,calendar,rss,mails) with kontact ?
[18:30] <_pg_> switch10_: but ssh is CLI only correct?
[18:30] <_pg_> \
[18:30] <switch10_> _pg_: yes
[18:30] <JetPackTuxedo> Alright, so I am installing stuff on my desktop right now, and it doesn't have an internet connection, so I have been downloading the needed packages, transferring them over with usb, and then opening them (in order of dependencies) in the package installer. Is there a faster way?
[18:30] <moreece> what is the right way to ask questions and get help
[18:30] <matrix17> ok i have an iso i will try it
[18:30] <mark1> does anyone know can you hide a file or folder in linux ?
[18:30] <sander> Kangarooo: what is the real name of thiss applet free space checker?
[18:30] <_pg_> switch10_: thats garbage-im not smart enough for that lol
[18:31] <_pg_> whats a good vnc server on ubuntu?
[18:31] <switch10_> you could always setup ssh to tunnel VNC traffic...
[18:31] <Kangarooo> sander: ok then try google gadjets install Qt version couse it will be without extra line and its waster then other (there 2 versions) so install that google gadjets qt and then open and search all gadjets
[18:31] <matrix17> but the problem when i type for ex airmon-ng i can't see any thing
[18:31] <fox> it will do the job for u good luck...
[18:31] <switch10_> _pg_: I have never done that though myself
[18:31] <JetPackTuxedo> _pg_, one is pre-installed. I used it for a little bit.
[18:31] <_pg_> switch10_: hmm that sounds interesting-does anyone know how?
[18:31] <matrix17> thanks fox
[18:32] <sander> Kangarooo: but this google gadjets can i add in gnome panel? :)
[18:32] <fox> that what we are here for to help!
[18:32] <switch10_> _pg_: http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/
[18:32] <matrix17> i will try and reply again
[18:32] <JetPackTuxedo> anyone know of a fast way to install packages without an internet connection?
[18:33] <Vigo> JetPackTuxedo: Do you have a HUB or a CAT cable?
[18:33] <Kangarooo> sander: no thouse you can add to desktop . look here example. http://code.google.com/p/google-gadgets-for-linux/
[18:33] <matrix17> but i dont know how to make monitor mode work
[18:33] <_pg_> your desktop is only reachable over the local network
[18:33] <JetPackTuxedo> Vigo: nope
[18:33] <mark1> can you make a folder hidden in linux ?
[18:33] <switch10_> Vigo: add a cd as a package source??
[18:33] <Kangarooo> sander: and when you click icon (witch will be in gnome panel) all gadjets hides/shows
[18:34] <marienz> mark1: start the name with a dot and many things will hide it.
[18:34] <switch10_> mark1: put a . in front of the filename
[18:34] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, just rename it and put a period at the beginning. example: ".yourfolder"
[18:34] <sander> Kangarooo: cool... but i need only a simple program that show the free space in panel like the applet of xfce4... :(
[18:34] <Vigo> JackPackTuxedo: What switch10_ stated is one way, did you download the DVD or Alternate?
[18:34] <guntbert> mark1: you rename it (.myfolder is hidden while myfolder is not) - but that for convenience only not for security
[18:34] <fox> matrix 17 check HCL at http://backtrack.offensive-security.com/index.php?title=HCL:Wireless
[18:34] <moreece> can someone pls pm me to assist with display drivers
[18:35] <mark1> thanks guys
[18:35] <JetPackTuxedo> Vigo: I'm not upgrading it yet, I was just installing a few programs
[18:35] <delac> mark1: put dot . in front of the filename or foldername. however ls -al and nautilus with 'show hidden files' will show the file or folder
[18:35] <guntbert> !pm | moreece
[18:35] <adac> wondering how can I restrict ssh access for an user o that he only can execute a few commands? I can use the "command" option in authorized_keys, but I would need to execute more commands like ie. "ls" and "df" and that seems not possible
[18:35] <Kangarooo> sander: I have xfce4 and I have here in panel applet free space chacker. in gnome its also with some other name. you have some gnome panel gadjets yes?
[18:35] <switch10_> Vigo: sorry I meant JetPackTuxedo
[18:36] <Kangarooo> what's faster ext4 of xfs? in some articles is written xfs is faster and now is ext4 faster
[18:36] <JetPackTuxedo> Vigo, I have been downloading the packages, saving them to a flash drive, and installing in package manager, but that is slow
[18:36] <sander> Kangarooo: yes
[18:36] <JetPackTuxedo> switch10_, how do you do that?
[18:36] <switch10_> JetPackTuxedo: add a cd as a package source.
[18:36] <Vigo> JetPackTuxedo: Try a DVD-RW?
[18:36] <switch10_> or dvd
[18:37] <JetPackTuxedo> well if I can do a disc, can't I do a usb drive?
[18:38] <Kangarooo> sander: then I don't know what more to sugest. if its not then alternative would be thouse google gadjets. also as one mentionet you can try conky. but these alternatives will be showing on desktop and not in panel
[18:38] <sander> Kangarooo: here in gnome i have system monitor but this not show free space usage in disk, only show a graph of disk
[18:38] <Kangarooo> sander: ah then rigt click and see if you can change settings to show that
[18:38] <sander> Kangarooo: ok i will try to install google gadjets
[18:39] <Vigo> JetPackTuxedo: Sure, I think a full source with all packages will fit better on DVD, maybe even spin faster. That depends on the USB hardware.
[18:39] <sander> Kangarooo: i already make this, this only show some options of colors :(
[18:39] <moreece> pm me again
[18:39] <Kangarooo> sander: then yes sad :(
[18:40] <JetPackTuxedo> Vigo: Alright, I'm writing them to disc now
[18:40] <moreece> my question is not being answered in the channel?
[18:40] <sander> Kangarooo: i'll try google gadjets... thanks for your help
[18:40] <Kangarooo> sander: you are welcome :) bb
[18:40] <fox> moreece what that question???
[18:40] <Vigo> JetPackTuxedo: That seems to me like the best way, and you can add any other packages that you wish.
[18:40] <mark1> so im using an exturnal media player/ hard drive, and i need certain folders to be hidden cause when it is plugged into the tv it it cannot process all the files, for some reason the windows hide does the trick, but putting a period before, doesn,t is it possible to do a windows hide with linux, possibly with a program ?
[18:41] <guntbert> !patience | moreece
[18:41] <moreece> I am unable to use the extra visual effects or even standard after installing the latest ATI drivers
[18:41] <moreece> now I cant go back
[18:41] <mark1> sorrry i know its a random question
[18:42] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, so you want them hidden in windows and not linux?
[18:42] <fox> smoreece simply hard-boot the system u will get the default..
[18:42] <moreece> hard boot?
[18:42] <RegressLess> How do I change the directory I'm trying to run a command in? I need to run a command on a file in home/mike/downloads/
[18:43] <Oer> RegressLess, use 'cd directory'
[18:43] <ttk1opc> cd /downloads
[18:43] <fox> moreece switch off the power and turn back on...(HARD BOOT)
[18:43] <JetPackTuxedo> RegressLess, cd /home/mike/downloads
[18:43] <cobby_lane> hey is there a way I can mass do ffmpeg *.flv *.mpg?
[18:43] <moreece> fox: when I restart it makes no difference as I am now running the ATI drivers
[18:43] <Oer> moreece, can't you disable the ati driver in system > hardwaredrivers ?
[18:43] <moreece> I would like to go back to the defaulted drivers from when I first installed as they worked better
[18:43] <RoC_MasterMind> How do I disable this sound effect?  When I click on a window to close it, or various other places, I get a beep/doop sound from my speakers?  This has only started recently, was this a recent package update?  I have 9.10
[18:43] <mark1> JetPackTuxedo, well no not necessiarly, but for some reason the windows hide , hides it from the media player, and the linux hide doesnt... so im a little bit at a loss here, i just need to do something to the folders (besides deleteing them) to make my media player not see them... ??
[18:43] <arvant> how i can add iptables to my services?
[18:44] <hmw> RegressLess: watch out for Upper/Lower case! it probably is /home/mike/Downloads  -  use TAB completion!! type /ho<TAB>/mi<TAB>/Do<TAB>
[18:44] <fox> what type of graphic card u have....pls mention?
[18:44] <Oer> !iptables
[18:45] <moreece> when trying to remove it tells me its locked, I assume its because its being used
[18:45] <moreece> I'm on a
[18:45] <moreece> ATI DH 3870
[18:45] <moreece> er HD I mean
[18:45] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1,  try making a second partition in ext2, ext3, or ext4, and saving the stuff that you don't want to be accessible in that partition. Most windows-related things won't see those file system types
[18:45] <moreece> perhaps reboot into safe mode and remove the drivers?
[18:46] <fox> working pls wait...?
[18:47] <ibi03> could someone help me?
[18:47] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1,  does that sound like it would work to you, or would you rather not partition it?
[18:47] <delac> mark1: http://linlog.skepticats.com/entries/2007/10/26_1516/
[18:48] <RegressLess> is there a channel devoted to steam through wine?
[18:48] <mark1> JetPackTuxedo, that sounds like a plan, but then i will have to copy files across the partitions, each time i want to use them or dont want to use them, i think im just gonna try find a program online, otherwise i will boot with withdows each time i need to hide/unhide them cause that would be faster then copying 500GB of stuff .. thanks for your help
[18:48] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, look at delac's link. It looks like it would work for you
[18:49] <xangua> RegressLess: #winehq¿
[18:49] <xangua> ibi03: only if you make a question
[18:49] <mark1> delac, thanks ill take a look
[18:49] <arvant> how i can add iptables to my services?
[18:50] <fox> moreece u got remove the ATI Drivers for Synaptic Package manager..let ubuntu take effect (default)
[18:50] <moreece> ok going to try that now
[18:51] <plitter> how do you make many folders in one command? i tried mkdir name[1-4] and mkdir name{1-4}
[18:51] <ibi03> kk my problem is im new on Ubuntu and so iv choosen 5GB as root partition and now i want to install programs onto another partition is it possible or do i have to change the size of root?
[18:52] <xangua> ibi03: programs installs for all users
[18:52] <CloudLevi> Anyone know how I can tie Pidgin to Ubuntu like Empathy was?
[18:52] <CloudLevi> Away on screensaver and stuff like that
[18:53] <ibi03> i know but the partition size is just 5GB
[18:53] <fox> CloudLevi pls be more specific...Tie ???
[18:53] <mark1> delac, that seems like the right idea, but im gonna have to get more used to linux before i try that cause i dont really get what they saying lol, anyway ill keep the link and have a look after a few weeks
[18:53] <switch10_> ibi03: it would be best to just grow your root partition.  but you could make symlinks to a place where you have more storage.
[18:53] <RoC_MasterMind> How do I disable this sound effect?  When I click on a window to close it, or various other places, I get a beep/doop sound from my speakers?  This has only started recently, was this a recent package update?  I have 9.10
[18:53] <arand> ibi03: Normally you install applications to the root FS so I would say you'd need to resize the partition
[18:53] <ibi03> symlinks?
[18:53] <delac> mark1: well that's not really verry hard
[18:54] <delac> mark1: only one command if i got it right
[18:54] <switch10_> ibi03: if you don't know what symbolic links are, I suggest you just resize root.
[18:54] <ibi03> system links i guess#
[18:54] <JetPackTuxedo> Is there a way to have external media (usb, cd, etc) eject when you drag it to the trash can?
[18:54] <delac> mark1: just open the terminal and go to the folder in the usb-stick that has the file
[18:55] <delac> mark1: and then issue the command: mattrib +h filename
[18:55] <durt> anyone have a solution for getting different time zone times to display in gnome panel, the clock applet just gives the one location time no matter what location I set it to.
[18:55] <delac> mark1: at least i think it works like that :) I haven't tried myself...
[18:56] <ibi03> to resize root ill have to use a gparted livecd but i dont want to download 250mb it takes more than 2 hours :(
[18:56] <switch10_> ibi03: use an ubuntu live cd
[18:56] <switch10_> ibi03: you can use gparted on the ubuntu live cd's
[18:57] <moreece> ok within my synaptic packmanger I dont have an ATI driver or package as per say. I have xserver-xorg-video-r128 and fglrx-modaliases
[18:57] <moreece> but that is it
[18:57] <moreece> ?
[18:57] <mark1> delac, ok let me give it a try!
[18:57] <guntbert> !who | moreece
[18:58] <ibi03> i have a 8.04 is gparted on it?
[18:58] <JetPackTuxedo> ibi03,  you will have to install it, but I believe it is compatible
[18:58] <moreece> fox: synaptic package doesnt specify a specific package that I think i need to remove
[18:58] <delac> mark1: or i could be wrong. read this too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592395
[18:59] <switch10_> JetPackTuxedo: Gparted is not on 8.04?  I could have sworn it was..
[18:59] <ibi03> kk then im going to try it so by and thanks
[18:59] <ibi03> kk
[18:59] <mark1> delac, do i have to download mtools ?
[19:00] <delac> mark1: dont know exactly :)
[19:00] <ibi03> so gparted on 8.04 or not?
[19:00] <delac> mark1: also note this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtools/+bug/501320
[19:00] <JetPackTuxedo> switch10_, I don't think it is by default. It wasn
[19:00] <JetPackTuxedo> switch10_, I don't think it is by default. It wasn't on 10.04 by default. I don't think it was on 9.1 either
[19:00] <skrite> hey all
[19:01] <ibi03> ive found another disk ubuntu 5.04^^
[19:01] <switch10_> ibi03: its on there im pretty sure..  It was on both 10.04 and 9.10 by default I know that for a fact
[19:01] <switch10_> ibi03: its on the 8.04 liveCD
[19:01] <fox> look again..or will have to do through xconfig...that very difficult process...
[19:01] <delac> mark1: actually you should allready have the mtools installed
[19:01] <ibi03> ok thx ill try it now bye
[19:01] <delac> mark1: on default
[19:01] <JetPackTuxedo> switch10_, it was definitely not on 10.04 by default
[19:02] <mark1> delac, awesome, so where is it ?
[19:02] <JetPackTuxedo> I installed it yesterday
[19:02] <delac> mark1: its a command line program. no gui
[19:02] <mark1> delac, eish
[19:02] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, also, you could try encrypting the folder, but I'm not sure whether or not windows would let you open an encrypted folder.
[19:03] <switch10_> JetPackTuxedo: I don't know what to tell ya.
[19:03] <fox> moreece first try getting the HCL list for u r laptop???
[19:03] <mark1> let me try encrypting it maybe that will do the trick, i want avoid command line for the moment, (i dont want to break anything
[19:03] <JetPackTuxedo> switch10_,  actually, I installed it twice yesterday. once on the livecd, and once on the install
[19:04] <elizabeth-slshrt> !root
[19:04] <switch10_> JetPackTuxedo: man its not included with the install.  But it is on the LIve CD  its been like that for years..
[19:04] <JetPackTuxedo> Hmmm... maybe you are right.
[19:05] <switch10_> JetPackTuxedo: it is def on the Live CD, check again
[19:05] <hellyeah> hey
[19:05] <mark1> scratch that i dont want to encrypt and decrypt each time, im gonna try open mtools lol
[19:05] <hellyeah> i have 80 images
[19:05] <JetPackTuxedo> switch10_, hmmm... yeah, I think you might be right, now that I think about it. Checking wouldn't help, since if it didn't COME on there I installed it, because I used it
[19:05] <JadenKorn> Hello. Can the Ubuntu Forums moderators/administrators change someone's username?
[19:05] <xangua> ¿¿
[19:06] <hellyeah> but it is not rotated correctly are there any command or tool to rotate correctly automatically in one time
[19:06] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, no need to worry about breaking anything. just cd to the directory and use the command for the file properties tool
[19:07] <CloudLevi> Seriously, people...how do I get Pidgin to work like Empathy?
[19:07] <mark1> JetPackTuxedo, ok let me try that :)
[19:08] <h00k> CloudLevi: I'm not exactly sure what you mean 'to work like,' they are two very different programs
[19:08] <JetPackTuxedo> CloudLevi, I dunno, but I am trying to do something similar
[19:08] <fox> CloudLevi pls be more specific abt question..?
[19:08] <mark1> how do i know what the directory is cause it doesnt show me any drive letters, lol
[19:09] <h00k> fox: English isn't everyone's native language, please use full words
[19:09] <CloudLevi> h00k: Empathy was tied to and controlled by the OS. The commands are still there (Session controls at the top right corner as well as away-on-screensaver), but I uninstalled Empathy
[19:09] <mark1> haha awesome i just realised that when people are replying to me the name is gold haha
[19:09] <fox> CloudLevi pls be more specific about the question..?
[19:10] <h00k> fox: English isn't everyone's native language, please use full words and not things like 'u' 'r' and 'pls'
[19:10] <arooni> how do i enable third button emulation on ubuntu koala
[19:10] <fox> CloudLevi please be more specific about the question..? a simple common sense..my friend.
[19:10] <switch10_> CloudLevi: what?  install empathy....
[19:10] <switch10_> CloudLevi: what kind of question is that??
[19:11] <cjay554> arooni, it should already do the third button, try clicking both mouse buttons at the same time
[19:11] <CloudLevi> Fox: ..."a simple common sense..." really? I thought I was clear.
[19:11] <arooni> cjay554, nothing happens (i'm trying to get it so i can highlight txt, then hit left & rigtht @ same time) and have it paste
[19:12] <switch10_> CloudLevi: you cant.  unless you feel like integrating it yourself.  if you want empathy install it.
[19:13] <fox> make the question as simple as possible don't use phrases...any way! put fort a simple question??
[19:13] <cjay554> interesting arooni, it should automatically do it doesn't seem like theres an option for it to be enabled, for me i can do the third click ever since install
[19:13] <mark1> JetPackTuxedo, how do i know what the letter of my drive is ?
[19:14] <JetPackTuxedo> you are doing this to an external, right?
[19:14] <plitter> howto make many folders with one command? mkdir name{1-4} and mkdir name[1-4]
[19:14] <switch10_> mark1: sudo fdisk
[19:14] <plitter> doesnt work
[19:14] <CloudLevi> In Ubuntu 9.10... the system has control commands for Empathy chat. These include an "away on screensaver" protocol that sets your status to idle or away when the screensaver activates (rather than using its own timer) and certain status controls within the drop-down menu located by default in the upper right hand corner of the screen. I wish to utilize these in tandem with Pidgin.
[19:14] <arooni> cjay554, i've already followed: http://www.pubbs.net/samba/200904/59839/
[19:14] <CloudLevi> switch10_: Not an option. I downloaded Pidgin very specifically so I could utilize SMS.
[19:14] <a16BitSoft> will Release Candidate automatically upgrade to Final version on Thursday? Or I will have to reinstall Final version?
[19:15] <CaptainTrek> plitter: try this way: mkdir name1 name2 name3 name4
[19:15] <iceroot> a16BitSoft: will upgrade, also use #ubuntu+1
[19:15] <TyanColte> http://pastebin.com/TfWcTn2T when trying to access ntfs drive after automount
[19:15] <guntbert> fox: please stay helpful
[19:15] <CloudLevi> fox: What's your native language? (Not trying to be rude...it's an honest question)
[19:15] <a16BitSoft> iceroot - thanks
[19:15] <h00k> !lucid | a16BitSoft
[19:15] <plitter> CaptainTrek: it works but i want the shorter way... takes long time to write it all:P
[19:15] <switch10_> CloudLevi: its not an option that it is not going to work like that?
[19:15] <goez> plitter: there isnt a shorter way
[19:15] <torchie> anyone running on dell vostro v13?
[19:15] <h00k> !anyone | torchie
[19:15] <submesa> hello all - can somebody help me with aptitude or dmesg? i want to fix my dependencies after a failed (but expected) upgrade attempt. i want to use something like dpkg --configure -a  but it has to skip the package open-iscsi - how can i do that?
[19:16] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, this is on an external drive, correct?
[19:16] <torchie> oh darn.
[19:16] <torchie> how's the battery life on the ubuntu vostro v13?
[19:16] <mark1> JetPackTuxedo, yes
[19:16] <plitter> goez: i know there is a way, just need to find it again:)
[19:16] <CloudLevi> switch10_: Reverting to Empathy is not an option... Empathy messenger does not contain SMS communication capabilities as Pidgin does.
[19:16] <PerSeL> hello! I recently bought a new wireless lan card on pci, my ubuntu 9 cant see it, but I have drivers on the cd, it's some kind of archive I would like to know how do I install them. thanks in advance.
[19:16] <goez> plitter: in a for loop ?
[19:17] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, do "cd /media" and then "ls" without quotes on both
[19:17] <goez> for i in `seq 1 x` ; do mkdir dir$i ; done
[19:17] <fox> CloudLevi why didn't u come out with tis before 15 min...working on it...pls stay.
[19:17] <plitter> goez: for example, dont know the syntax for it though
[19:17] <plitter> goez: ahh
[19:17] <h00k> ubottu: u | fox
[19:17] <goez> plitter: replace x with the last number
[19:17] <cjay554> arooni, interesting, i have never had to do anything like that arooni, maybe thats where the problem lies, maybe something is messed up in the config file
[19:17] <Redster> I've got a an HP Latitude laptop.  New Ubuntu 9.1 desktop keeps crashing after 10 to 15 min.  512 ram, P4 Processor, and one open app when it happens.
[19:18] <mark1> JetPackTuxedo, ok i did that it just lists my hard drives, it doesnt tell me their letter
[19:18] <CaptainTrek> Redster: HP latitude?  never heard of that one
[19:18] <switch10_> CloudLevi: ok fine.  but if you want it to be integrated into gnome, you will have to do it yourself, or switch to an older release that used pidgin by default.  9.04 I think was the last one
[19:18] <_1x2_> sudo plymouth-log-viewer >>> Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
[19:18] <_1x2_> Done.
[19:18] <_1x2_> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[19:18] <_1x2_> /dev/sdb1: clean, 322707/655776 files, 2455615/2622603 blocks (check after next mount)
[19:18] <_1x2_> init: ureadahead-other main process (815) terminated with status 4
[19:18] <FloodBot1> _1x2_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <CloudLevi> fox: sono era... =_=;;; Will you drop the AIMspeek?
[19:18] <_1x2_> help me !
[19:18] <CloudLevi> switch10_: Doing it by hand is what I intended. I came here to learn how...
[19:18] <znik> are thr any security issues (virus problems) with istallaing dosbox on ubuntu?
[19:18] <_1x2_> !plymouth
[19:18] <Oer> _1x2_, are you running Lucid Lynx 10.04 rc ?
[19:19] <h00k> _1x2_: #ubuntu+1 is for Lucid development as stated in the topic
[19:19] <jh955> Hi, will my beta lucid install automatically update to the release candidate and final release?
[19:19] <znik> i have heard thr are problems with running wine(linux become prone to viruses)!!
[19:19] <h00k> !lucid | jh955
[19:19] <znik> installing wine
[19:19] <JetPackTuxedo> mark1, I PM'd you
[19:19] <CaptainTrek> aw, h00k, you beat me to it >.<
[19:19] <submesa> jh955: yes
[19:19] <switch10_> CloudLevi: ok, that makes more sense then.  maybe rephrase your question..
[19:19] <acicula> znik: well there are issues with wine, but not with virusses really
[19:19] <Redster> Sorry, HP Insperion.
[19:19] <PerSeL> hello! can anyone here help me to install drivers for lan card from a cd please.
[19:19] <_1x2_> Oser ,h00k yes help me !
[19:19] <h00k> _1x2_: /join #ubuntu+1
[19:20] <znik> acicula: wat about dosbox?
[19:20] <_1x2_> h00k: ok but no help !
[19:20] <plitter> goez: this worked better: for i in {5..9}; do mkdir Øving0$i;done, ur method gave me one folder:P
[19:20] <h00k> _1x2_: not in here, you need to join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid discussion.
[19:20] <CloudLevi> switch10_: Seriously? >_> I phrased it the best way I knew how... I'm not a company brain (you know, those jerks who assume we all know what they're talking about lol)
[19:20] <plitter> goez: thanks though:)
[19:21] <goez> plitter: did you replace x with a number?
[19:21] <CloudLevi> switch10_: So...I kinda got caught up trying to describe it I guess...*shrug*
[19:21] <goez> plitter: all the same tho :p
[19:21] <plitter> goez: yes, and yes:P
[19:22] <acicula> znik: same
[19:23] <PerSeL> hello! can anyone help me to install drivers for my wlan card?
[19:23] <h00k> ubottu: wireless | PerSeL
[19:24] <Redster> What would cause 9.1 desktop to crash regularly?
[19:24] <PerSeL> well I have the drivers on the cd I just need to know how do i unpack them
[19:25] <h00k> Redster: lots of things, including bad hardware
[19:25] <acicula> PerSeL: its unlikely that you need the drivercd, have you tried updating your ubuntu install?
[19:25] <vitto> ciao
[19:25] <vitto> come va_
[19:25] <Redster> P4, 512 ram.  How to find out the problem?
[19:25] <h00k> Redster: what exactly does it do when it 'crashes'
[19:26] <h00k> Redster: how long does it take, what are you doing when it does, etc, etc.
[19:26] <Redster> 10 or so mins into use it freezes.  That's it.  never had it with 8.04
[19:26] <PerSeL> acicula: well I can't because I took out the lan and stayed only with wireless...
[19:26] <Redster> surfing
[19:26] <h00k> Redster: check your dmesg, do a mem test
[19:27] <Oer> h00k, after 15 min i think about ACPI
[19:27] <acicula> PerSeL: well the drivercd that comes with your wireless card will be of little use
[19:27] <Redster> any place I ought to post the log to have it examined?
[19:27] <sidney_> the latest update killed my sound how do i get it back working
[19:27] <h00k> Redster: sure, pastebin
[19:27] <submesa> Can somebody explain to me how i can use 'dpkg --configure -a' with skipping one package (open-iscsi) or a method where i can upgrade/fix per package instead (interactive) ?
[19:27] <h00k> Redster: sudo aptitude install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[19:27] <vitto> vado
[19:28] <Redster> THX!
[19:28] <acicula> submesa: remove open-isci, fix everything, put it back?
[19:28] <h00k> Redster: it could be overheating, as well
[19:28] <submesa> acicula: if i remove iscsi, the system hangs; this is because it has no local disks i.e. iSCSI-on-root
[19:28] <acicula> ah yeah, then you kinda want that :)
[19:28] <PerSeL> acicula: well I remember that I installed nvidia drivers from the official site, it also was an archive file but I don't remember what I wrote in the console
[19:29] <hellyeah> hey
[19:29] <submesa> acicula: im in the process of writing a bug report, just want to see how far i can come :)
[19:29] <hellyeah> i try to do jpg to pdf
[19:29] <hellyeah> i am using convert command from imagemagick
[19:29] <hellyeah> but it doesnt work
[19:29] <acicula> PerSeL: it should not be needed to install drivers from another source then just from the repository, but it does require an updated system first
[19:29] <hellyeah> i do convert *.jpg foo.pdf do you have any kowledge about that
[19:29] <CloudLevi> >> Did I get ditched?
[19:29] <Oer> hellyeah, post your output http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[19:30] <acicula> PerSeL: in fact its more likely to break your system if you try to infuse your own drivers via nvidias bin package or whatever driver your wireless came with
[19:30] <llutz> hellyeah: for jpg in *.jpg; do convert "$jpg" ${jpg%}pdf;done
[19:31] <kane77> what would you recommend for easy to use rich gui toolkit for programming ubuntu applications?
[19:31] <llutz> hellyeah: your "*.jpg" will be expanded by the shell and convert cannot use it
[19:31] <Oer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ImageMagick
[19:31] <acicula> kane77: gtk+ for gnome, qt for kde
[19:31] <CloudLevi> n00k: ...o_o I think I got ditched
[19:31] <kane77> acicula, how easy is gtk+ to use?
[19:31] <blue_pearl> hi all any one can help me accessing my share drive of XP from Ubuntu
[19:31] <hellyeah> llutz,  what can i do after that command
[19:32] <Kangarooo> i want to make max fast boot up and max fast system. how much is needed fot boot/ ? and how much for home/? in home will be all programm yes?
[19:32] <llutz> hellyeah: ?
[19:32] <acicula> kane77: its c
[19:32] <acicula> kane77: but there are bindings for pythong and wathever other language you like
[19:32] <blue_pearl> hi all any one can help me accessing my share drive of XP from Ubuntu
[19:33] <CloudLevi> *facedesk*
[19:33] <acicula> Kangarooo: /home is data only
[19:33] <CloudLevi> So...anyone here know how I can tie Pidgin into Ubuntu 9.10?
[19:33] <acicula> !fhs
[19:33] <jasonxxx> blue_pearl are you using vmware or something else. background windows.
[19:34] <acicula> well most likely data only anyway
[19:34] <jasonxxx> blue_pearl are you using vmware or something else. background windows.
[19:34] <acicula> for /boot 100mb should do it, but it wont make your system boot faster
[19:34] <blue_pearl> jasonxxx, i have two computers desktop running XP laptop running Ubuntu
[19:34] <CloudLevi> *Beats self in the face with wireless optical mouse*
[19:34] <bodee> есть желающие помочь , проблема с usb  , то ли обновился , либо отключил случайно ... прошу помощи пипл
[19:35] <acicula> !ru
[19:35] <hellyeah> i need to convert jpg file to pdf or djvu
[19:35] <blue_pearl> jasonxxx, i want to access files present in XP machine from Linux
[19:36] <gruko> exit
[19:36] <blacksunseven> My /etc/motd currently displays dynamic info about my hard drives but is missing a few, what script is run to output this info to /etc/motd so I can edit it?
[19:36] <Kangarooo> acicula, then witch partition is for programms? i want 1st be max small just as much needed for boot/ 2nd for swap to be very fast swap 512mb 3rd for programms witch will be not much only default. so how much for them is needed? and rest data.
[19:36] <blue_pearl> jasonxxx, can u help?
[19:37] <jasonxxx> click places-network-keep...going..apply your credential and you are into the share drive.
[19:37] <llutz> hellyeah: use this command, change to the jpg-containing directory before: for jpg in *.jpg; do convert "$jpg" ${jpg%.*}.pdf;done
[19:38] <llutz> hellyeah: if you only want to convert 1 file: "convert file.jpg file.pdf"
[19:38] <kubi_ubi_bubi> hello! Is there any command which can displays how long the computer is turned on?
[19:38] <blue_pearl> jasonxxx, when i click on network it says unable to mount
[19:38] <llutz> kubi_ubi_bubi: uptime
[19:38] <brontosaurusrexw> kubi_ubi_bubi: uptime
[19:39] <kubi_ubi_bubi> thanks, thanks
[19:39] <jasonxxx> which version are you using in ubuntu..?
[19:39] <Kangarooo>  witch partition is for programms? i want 1st be max small just as much needed for boot/ 2nd for swap to be very fast swap 512mb 3rd for programms witch will be not much only default. so how much for them is needed? and rest data.
[19:39] <CloudLevi> llutz: Know how to link Pidgin to Ubuntu 9.10 command stuff? Away on screensaver and the other status control stuff, you know?
[19:40] <llutz> CloudLevi: idk
[19:40] <blue_pearl> jasonxxx, Ubuntu 9.04
[19:40] <jumpingjack> hello!
[19:40] <LucidGuy> Looking for a good html editor .. shall I stick with bluefish?
[19:41] <jasonxxx> ok...do u dual boot...Blue-Pearl windows and Ubuntu...
[19:41] <Kangarooo> can i make for boot partition just 50mb?
[19:41] <jumpingjack> can anyone help me with usb flash drive's conflict?
[19:41] <blue_pearl> jasonxxx, no both computers are single boot
[19:41] <VCoolio> LucidGuy: depends on what features you need; gedit with some plugins is also fine, or try geany
[19:41] <llutz> Kangarooo: du -sh /boot     shows your current /boot size. are you sure you want/need extra /boot?
[19:41] <CloudLevi> llutz: who should I ask?
[19:42] <llutz> CloudLevi: idk either
[19:42] <pmcclelland> when you add a remote location through "Connect to Server" where does it mount those locations in the filesystem?
[19:42] <brontosaurusrexw> LucidGuy: + kate, if you dont mind to install few megs of kde stuff
[19:42] <LucidGuy> VCoolio, something like dreamweaver(text mode) would be nice.
[19:42] <llutz> LucidGuy: quanta
[19:43] <blue_pearl> jasonxxx, no both computers are single boot
[19:43] <red2kic> Kangarooo: Sure you can. I don't know you're being a stingy. You'll have to ensure yourself to make sure to remove any older kernels even if it's just few. :)
[19:43] <Kangarooo> llutz, im now installing new installation im in livecd now.
[19:43] <VCoolio> LucidGuy: if you want textmode you'll have to join the vim/emacs war, not here though
[19:43] <pmcclelland> LucidGuy: Bluefish 2.0 is pretty sweet but unfortunately you need to compile from source because it hasn't been added tot he repo yet
[19:44] <exorzizt> test
[19:44] <CloudLevi> exorzizt: hm?
[19:45] <Kangarooo> clean installation. i want 1st be max small just as much needed for boot/ 50mb will be enough? 2nd for swap to be very fast swap 512mb 3rd for programms witch will be not much only default programms. so how much for them is needed? and witch partition is for programms? 4th the rest all other data
[19:45] <red2kic> !away > Votan|off
[19:45] <exorzizt> CloudLevi, hmmm im not able to send to ##c.... just wanted to check if it works here
[19:45] <jumpingjack> can anyone help me?
[19:45] <CloudLevi> exorzizt: ah...
[19:45] <h00k> !anyone | jumpingjack
[19:46] <tony> Hi.
[19:46] <CloudLevi> red2kic: YOU!!! ...help? Trying to make Pidgin respond to stuff like away-on-screensaver and the status controls in the dropdown menu on the right end of the upper panel bar x_X
[19:47] <qotsa> Is there an image of the 10.04 RC availabe that I can just dd to my usb stick? usb-creator is a pain on Archlinux...
[19:47] <sebsebseb> !10.04 | qotsa
[19:47] <h00k> qotsa: please note the topicand that #ubuntu+1 is for Lucid
[19:47] <xangua> !usb | qotsa
[19:47] <tony> Well, I mucked around with the repositories, stuff happened, now my software center is missing some departments. Can you guys give me the software sources of your system plz? Pretty easy request.
[19:48] <tony> (Go to software sources, if you don't already know)
[19:48] <red2kic> Kangarooo: I checked my /boot.  It's 19MB and only have one (latest) kernel. linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic -- If you want 50MB, that would be enough for roughly 2.63 kernels.
[19:48] <red2kic> Kangarooo: In another word, you only can have two kernels. Why not 100MB just to be on safe side?
[19:48] <jumpingjack> ok. i have 3 usb ports on my netbook and i have ubuntu 10.04. when i plug in samsung's wimax usb modem into one port and trying to plug in a usb flash drive into other port i got my flash drive doesn't working. but if i disconnect my wimax modem every flash drives works perfect. how can i fix this problem?
[19:48] <llutz> Kangarooo: are you sure you want/need extra /boot?
[19:49] <red2kic> CloudLevi: "aptitude search pidgin" -- There are plugins you can install. Also, pidgin.im should list "extra" purple plugin packs
[19:49] <Oer> tony - tweak ubuntu or http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php is a nice start.
[19:49] <tony> Thanks, Oer.
[19:49] <red2kic> !info pidgin-musictracker | CloudLevi
[19:50] <red2kic> CloudLevi: How about that? :3
[19:50] <jumpingjack> guys?
[19:50] <xangua> !lucid > jumpingjack
[19:51] <Oer> jumpingjack, try switching usb ports
[19:51] <red2kic> CloudLevi: With certain right titles for the tracks, you can append "I iz" in front... Gonna be like.. "I iz crying over rainbows"
[19:51] <qotsa> xangua: thank you, i know this link. i asked for a method that does _not_ require usb-creator...
[19:51] <jumpingjack> Oer: i tried, problem is still there..
[19:52] <Oer> copy the games on your harddrive jumpingjack
[19:52] <red2kic> qotsa: unetbootin?
[19:52] <jumpingjack> Oer: what games?/
[19:53] <Oer> or data from flashdrive
[19:53] <zombie_soldier> games on linux are glitchy at best if your playing windows games. but linux games arent too bad and there a couple of funky ones
[19:53] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Not music... >_>;;
[19:53] <red2kic> qotsa: You could zcat boot.img.gz to usb drive and that mean you'd get to install ubuntu from latest packages retrieved via net.
[19:54] <jumpingjack> oer: do u mean that there's no way to use flash drives, while my wimax modem connected?
[19:54] <h00k> jumpingjack: You've been told, you need to go to #ubuntu+1 for Lucid discussion
[19:54] <red2kic> !info pidgin-awayonlock | CloudLevi
[19:55] <qotsa> red2kic: thanks for the suggestion. i just don't understand why every distro has to develop its own gui tool instead of providing usb-ready images that you can just dd to your usb drive.
[19:55] <CloudLevi> red2kic: That's the one! Now what about the dropdown menu on the panel? o_o
[19:55] <red2kic> CloudLevi: Open a terminal. Maximize the terminal so you don't miss anything. "aptitude search pidgin" -- Want more information on a particular package? "aptitude show pidgin-encryption"
[19:55] <xangua> qotsa: you can buy some distros in a usb
[19:56] <xangua> ready to run/install
[19:56] <sidney_> trying to get my sound back can someone decipher this termiinal output for me
[19:56] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Nothing there seems useful.
[19:57] <red2kic> qotsa: Creatively and the spirits of competitions. Everything in /world/ are designed to make everything more convenience.
[19:58] <red2kic> CloudLevi: If I recall correctly, you can set "Away" message in Pidgin -- The one that'll be default to when you're away/locked. Did you at least verify it worked (on another machine/phone?)
[19:59] <michaeljav> hola
[19:59] <sebsebseb> !es | michaeljav
[19:59] <michaeljav> alguien me puede  ayudar con ubuntu
[19:59] <cage_raphel> Hello michaeljav
[19:59] <michaeljav> ok
[19:59] <cage_raphel> hey sebsebseb , howz u ?
[19:59] <xangua> !es > michaeljav
[19:59] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Verify what work- oh, that's not what I mean. That one plugin is fine, but I'm also looking to integrate it into the indicator-applet-session panel device.
[20:00] <blue_pearl> any help on how to access files of xp machine from ubuntu machine
[20:00] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: ok
[20:00] <michaeljav> i need help whith ubuntu
[20:00] <cuberts> Hi peropl
[20:00] <cuberts> hi peopel  any one there
[20:00] <cuberts> heyt
[20:00] <cuberts> ahdlskajf
[20:00] <cuberts> dfdsf
[20:00] <cuberts> dfdas
[20:00] <cuberts> fd
[20:00] <FloodBot1> cuberts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:00] <michaeljav> yes
[20:00] <cuberts> ttshivers
[20:00] <cuberts> is any body here
[20:00] <cuberts> really
[20:00] <michaeljav> anybody help my
[20:00] <cuberts> any one
[20:00] <cuberts> really
[20:00] <FloodBot1> cuberts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:00] <h00k> cuberts: please stop. there are people here.
[20:01] <cuberts> anyone
[20:01] <cuberts> anyone here
[20:01] <cage_raphel> hello cuberts
[20:01] <llutz> please kick that troll
[20:01] <cuberts> Hey
[20:01] <cuberts> nonoono
[20:01] <cuberts> I am not a troll
[20:01] <red2kic> cuberts: Be quiet or go away. Ride a horse or something.
[20:01] <michaeljav> i need install packetTracert in my laptop
[20:01] <h00k> cuberts: you need to stop. Ask your question or be on your way.
[20:01] <cuberts> :(
[20:01] <cuberts> I am sorry
[20:01] <cuberts> I thought this was a chat box though
[20:01] <llutz> michaeljav: sudo aptitude install traceroute
[20:01] <h00k> !ot > cuberts
[20:02] <michaeljav> ok
[20:02] <michaeljav> llutz
[20:02] <cuberts> :(
[20:02] <michaeljav> ok
[20:02] <red2kic> CloudLevi: It does not show up in the notification area?
[20:02] <administrator_> hey all
[20:03] <administrator_> anyone here run Xubuntu?
[20:03] <sebsebseb> administrator_: try #xubuntu
[20:03] <blue_pearl> any help on how to access files of xp machine from ubuntu machine
[20:03] <red2kic> CloudLevi: Look in Pidgin preferences. "Show icon in system tray".
[20:03] <sebsebseb> !samba | blue_pearl
[20:04] <llutz> blue_pearl: install smbfs  use nautilus or commandline
[20:04] <CloudLevi> red2kic: The IAS has a status icon and a sub-menu inside its dropdown that control/are controlled by Empathy. When Empathy is set to Away, the IAS will show the corresponding icon. When you change the status in the IAS, Empathy will reflect that. I want this for Pidgin...
[20:04] <blue_pearl> llutz, i have installed sambafs
[20:04] <llutz> blue_pearl: smbfs or samba?
[20:04] <blue_pearl> llutz, samba
[20:04] <llutz> blue_pearl: install smbfs  use nautilus or commandline
[20:05] <F|ReSTaRT> what media center applications are there for ubuntu other than myth and xbmc?
[20:05] <mozir> How can I kill the shell and go back to the "black terminal"?
[20:05] <Freeman2411> hi guys
[20:05] <imanc> hey - fairly dumb newb question, I think, but I can't find eclipsePDT in any of the package managers so I'll have to download a copy manually.  Where directory should eclipse live in?
[20:05] <CloudLevi> red2kic: I am looking for neither a workaround nor a better mousetrap...I want this loose end tied, or at the -very- least removed from the IAS.
[20:05] <mozir> I already tried killing "gnome-session", but it just brought me to the logon screen after a few seconds
[20:05] <sebsebseb> FireCrotch: browse the software centre, or maybe install ubuntu studio into you're Ubuntu install
[20:05] <red2kic> CloudLevi: I see. I don't know the answer to that as I don't use indicator-applet-session myself.
[20:06] <michaeljav> llutz the comand you gave me no work
[20:06] <blue_pearl> llutz, ok installing smbfs, will let u know if it works
[20:06] <sidney_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422348/
[20:06] <llutz> blue_pearl: read "man mount.cifs" after installing
[20:06] <h00k> F|ReSTaRT: Take a look at the Software Center
[20:06] <blue_pearl> llutz, ok
[20:06] <llutz> !info traceroute | michaeljav
[20:06] <Freeman2411> could someone help me with shellscripts
[20:07] <llutz> michaeljav: then check your sources.list
[20:07] <michaeljav> llutz please help  i need  the packet tracer for tomorrow
[20:07] <sebsebseb> ah whoops messaged FireCrotch  above, not  F|ReSTaRT
[20:07] <michaeljav> i am newbie in ubuntu llutz
[20:08] <llutz> michaeljav: "tracert" is windows-stuff, the *buntu package and command is "traceroute"
[20:08] <red2kic> F|ReSTaRT: XBMC, Boxee, elisa, moovida
[20:08] <mamous> any one is gd in bit-torrent client
[20:08] <mamous> ?
[20:08] <michaeljav> ok
[20:08] <h00k> Freeman2411: #bash might be a good place for you
[20:08] <Freeman2411> or somebody tell me is there a irc channel
[20:08] <sebsebseb> F|ReSTaRT: by the way sometimes having characters such as |  in your IRC nick, can help brake someones auto complete
[20:08] <Freeman2411> ah great thanks
[20:08] <h00k> !anyone | mamous
[20:08] <llutz> michaeljav: so open a terminal and type " sudo aptitude install traceroute"
[20:08] <Tao> I've got a problem with my comp/monitor
[20:08] <sebsebseb> !details | Tao
[20:08] <Tao> While the comp will turn on, the monitor remains in what seems to be standby mode
[20:09] <michaeljav> can llutz talk in private
[20:09] <michaeljav> ?
[20:09] <llutz> michaeljav: no sorry
[20:09] <Tao> The light on the monitor is yellow and its blinking
[20:09] <sebsebseb> Tao: ok this may be a hardware issue
[20:09] <mamous> I have a problem in bit-torent client, when I add the port is say close... but if enable proxy in the setting it is open
[20:09] <michaeljav> ok
[20:09] <Tao> I tried another monitor, an older one, and it did basically the same thing
[20:09] <sebsebseb> Tao: I had recent issues with a oldish monitor myself,  sounds like a hardware issue to me
[20:09] <sebsebseb> Tao: is this before the operating system has loaded up?
[20:10] <Tao> NO
[20:10] <mamous> !help
[20:10] <Tao> Wait
[20:10] <sebsebseb> Tao: will it do this if the computer is turned off?
[20:10] <FiReSTaRT> h00k: not much in it.. im also interested in 3rd party packages.. sebsebseb ???
[20:10] <Tao> Yeah
[20:10] <Tao> The thing is
[20:10] <Tao> It worked fine earlier
[20:10] <michaeljav> I put the command, but does something but does not install  llutz
[20:10] <Tao> It worked fine yesterday
[20:10] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT: Synaptic is a bit more advanced well a lot more advanced more like it, when it comes to browsing the repo's
[20:10] <h00k> FiReSTaRT: I suppose you'll have to exercise your google
[20:10] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT: more apps will be shown in Synaptic
[20:10] <azlon> if i want to run a software raid, what is better? mdadm or lvm?
[20:10] <llutz> michaeljav: paste the output at pastebin.com
[20:10] <Tao> But I turned it on earlier and noticed that I had no internet connection, though the ethernet cable was connected and it worked
[20:10] <mirak> it would be really nice to have a media center in gnome that allow switching between the desktop and the media center with the remote
[20:10] <michaeljav> ok
[20:11] <Tao> I didn't worry about it too much
[20:11] <sebsebseb> Tao: uh you were just saying about a monitor issue, now your saying about ethernet?
[20:11] <Tao> No
[20:11] <Tao> WEll yeah
[20:11] <Tao> Just listen
[20:11] <Tao> It may be connected
[20:11] <Tao> Dunno
[20:11] <sebsebseb> Tao: hardware issues are off topic by the way ##hardware would be more appropriate
[20:11] <Tao> But I had to leave for a while, so I decided to shut the computer off
[20:11] <h00k> Tao: please try to keep everything on one line, it makes things way easier to understand
[20:11] <Tao> Sorry
[20:12] <CloudLevi> red2kic: Got it
[20:12] <Tao> Actually
[20:12] <FiReSTaRT> sebsebseb: looked at synaptic as well, but the search function isn't all that hot
[20:12] <Tao> I think it put the computer in standy
[20:12] <Tao> *standby
[20:12] <mamous> I have a problem in bit-torent client, when I add the port is say close... but if enable proxy in the setting it is open
[20:12] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT: well on the side there are a few differnet groups on the left
[20:13] <FiReSTaRT> h00k: i came here because my googling failed.. basically all xmbc/myth with moovida but i was sure there was at least one other major package
[20:13] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT: you can browse through each multimedia group,  for example.  ok will take a while, but that way you get to see all multimedia stuff that is avaialble from the repo.  or  just try search or maybe these sites to get an idea what is availalbe
[20:13] <CloudLevi> red2kic: It's so SIMPLE. I downloaded Pidgin THEN uninstalled Empathy. I googled "Pigin Indicator-Applet-Session" and found out someone else had the same problem... he didn't explain it in enough detail to know by just reading it, but really...very simple.
[20:13] <spuug> sup
[20:14] <h00k> FiReSTaRT: gotcha. I'm not sure :/
[20:14] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT:  most of the programs mentioend on these sites will already be in the Ubuntu repo.  http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com
[20:14] <h00k> CloudLevi: do you happen to be on Lucid?
[20:14] <CloudLevi> red2kic: So long as Empathy is installed, the IAC's controls are in use...install Pidgin with Empathy still on and there's nowhere for Pidgin's metaphorical gears to mesh. Uninstall Empathy, THEN install Pidgin...in my case I just had to reinstall. =D
[20:14] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT: so if your after other multimedia apps, those sites are a good start, to get an idea what is available for Desktop Linux
[20:15] <Tao> Uh, it won't let me join #hardware
[20:15] <CloudLevi> h00k: Okay, without sauntering off with the words "I'll take that as a no," please explain to me WHAT Lucid is.
[20:15] <michaeljav> llutz  i among
[20:15] <marco_xtml> hola
[20:15] <sebsebseb> Tao: it's ##hardware  and are you registered on Freenode?
[20:15] <ZykoticK9> !lucid | CloudLevi
[20:16] <CloudLevi> oh...there I go again NOT retaining data I so CLEARLY read less than an hour ago.
[20:16] <Tao> Uh
[20:16] <Tao> No
[20:16] <Tao> I'm not
[20:16] <F|ReSTaRT> sebsebseb: thanks ill look into the sites.. simply trying to give a relatively fresh linux user buddy more options.. we're both currently using xbmc on our media boxes but he wants to try out other stuff as well
[20:16] <CloudLevi> ZykoticK9: thanks... *facepalm* I feel dumb...
[20:16] <sebsebseb> Tao: ok sometimes  it seems that people have to be registered on the network, before they can join certain channels
[20:16] <h00k> CloudLevi: It happens, it's alright.
[20:16] <sebsebseb> !register | Tao
[20:16] <Tao> Ah
[20:16] <Tao> Ok
[20:16] <h00k> Cleo: indicator-applet-session tipped me off :)
[20:17] <llutz> !paste | michaeljav
[20:17] <ayam_jago> !grub
[20:17] <Tao> I think I know how to register my nick, unless this is totally different than any other IRC server I've been on
[20:17] <CloudLevi> H00k: No, I'm not. 9.10... I went with stable because I don't have access to Windows anymore. Last OS beta I entered was a living hell.
[20:17] <sebsebseb> Tao: so maybe ##hardware is registered users only channel, I don't know though
[20:17] <sinisterstuf> hey friends
[20:18] <CloudLevi> h00k: okay...it wasn't THAT bad, but it was unstable enough to scare me out of Lucid, considering I wanted working drivers and WINE.
[20:18] <goez> !pastebininit
[20:18] <CloudLevi> h00k: Irony is I'm using the beta of WINE I believe.........
[20:18] <poincare101> hi. I just set the upper panel (the one with the applications menu) to autohide and now I can't see it! I restarted gnome, and everytime I click at the top edge of my screen it does the exact same click at the bottom edge. How can I get the kpanel back?
[20:18] <goez> !pastebinit
[20:19] <sebsebseb> poincare101: this will probably work, but maybe not
[20:19] <sebsebseb> !panels | poincare101
[20:19] <sebsebseb> poincare101: also oh
[20:19] <sebsebseb> poincare101: oh you only did auto hide
[20:19] <zamnedix> What tools do I need to burn an ISO to a DVD-RW in Karmic?
[20:19] <sinisterstuf> does anyone know how to stop games in ubuntu from stopping me from using my usual keyboard shortcuts, it's annoying that I can't close the game if it freezes
[20:19] <sebsebseb> poincare101: just hover the mouse coursour, where the panel would be, and it should show
[20:19] <llutz> zamnedix: growisofs
[20:20] <poincare101> ubottu: nothing.
[20:20] <CloudLevi> h00k: Oh *GOD* ...tell me...please...PLEASE tell me that in uninstalling Empathy I did NOT delete all my chat logs!!!
[20:20] <zamnedix> llutz: Will that work if I already have it in ISO format?
[20:20] <h00k> CloudLevi: nah, they're still there.
[20:20] <poincare101> sebsebseb: I tried that, nothing happened.
[20:20] <sinisterstuf> zamnedix: just use brasero, it comes pre-installed
[20:20] <maco> CloudLevi: of course not
[20:20] <sebsebseb> poincare101: uhmm  ubottu is a bot, a computer program
[20:20] <Jordan_U> zamnedix: Burning utilities are included by default, right click the iso -> burn to disk.
[20:20] <abdou> hiiiiiiiii
[20:20] <FiReSTaRT> thanks sebsebseb osalt was useful.. if the kid likes one of the packages i suggested from that list, i'll probably give it a shot ;)
[20:20] <llutz> zamnedix: growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=file.iso
[20:20] <maco> CloudLevi: uninstalling software never removes data from your home directory
[20:20] <CloudLevi> h00k: Where? x_X; will they load into Pidgin? x_x
[20:20] <poincare101> sebsebseb: oh.
[20:20] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT: the kid?
[20:20] <zamnedix> lluts: thanks everyone else:brasero says i dont have the right plugins
[20:20] <CloudLevi> maco: Not familiar with the OS yet still...
[20:21] <zamnedix> *llutz
[20:21] <h00k> CloudLevi: I'm not sure if they will nicely or not, they are in one of your hidden folders, ~/.local/share/Empathy
[20:21] <ZykoticK9> sinisterstuf, you can often still use ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a console to kill games and other fullscreen x apps when they crash or freeze.  Good luck.
[20:21] <Toinou> hello, just a little question about swap. How ubuntu calcul the size in automatique installation?
[20:21] <poincare101> What do I do?!
[20:21] <poincare101> anyone?
[20:22] <sebsebseb> FiReSTaRT: anyway only get from the Ubuntu repo's,  unless a package you want isn't in there, and then only get from offical sources such as it's website/webserver
[20:22] <missy> hi
[20:22] <missy> i need help
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !ask | missy
[20:22] <Oer> !resetpanels
[20:22] <Oer> for poincare101
[20:22] <sinisterstuf> ZykoticK9: i don't think i can even use ctrl+alt+del it blocks all, and even so, ctr+alt+del gives me shutdown options
[20:23] <missy> can someone help me with algebra!!
[20:23] <Tao> . . .
[20:23] <Tao> Dude (or dudette)
[20:23] <sebsebseb> Oer: it seems he has tried that, but no good,  all that was done was auto hideing the top panel
[20:23] <sebsebseb> missy: not sure, but I think there is a ##maths on this network
[20:23] <Tao> Seriously?
[20:23] <F|ReSTaRT> sebsebseb: no worries.. that's what i usually do.. already a relatively experienced desktop user.. i was just looking up some obscure stuff and figured this would be a good place to ask :)
[20:23] <missy> thanks
[20:23] <Tao> Wow
[20:23] <CloudLevi> h00k: ...so the IAS controls keep logging me OUT
[20:24] <ZykoticK9> sinisterstuf, most games will affect typical shortcuts - ctrl+alt+f1 is fairly resistant to changes by programs, it was just a suggestion for something to try.
[20:24] <sebsebseb> Tao: what's the problem now?
[20:24] <CloudLevi> h00k: Every single time I use the IAS to control Pidgin, it logs me out of MSN... =_=
[20:24] <sinisterstuf> ZykoticK9: I'm gonna try it right now, brb
[20:24] <CloudLevi> guess I have to reinstall Empathy and remove my accounts from it ><
[20:25] <ZykoticK9> sinisterstuf, if your using Karmic BTW ctrl+alt+backspace has been superseeded by alt+sysrq+k to restart X
[20:25] <zamnedix> When trying to use growisofs to burn an ISO to a DVDRW, I get the error message ":-( /dev/cdrom: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0
[20:25] <zamnedix> "
[20:25] <Tao> sebsebseb: Earlier I put my computer on standby, and everything looked to be ok. But I came back a few hours later and attempted to turn my computer on. While the CPU did turn on, the monitor presumably remained in standby mode because the light on it is blinking yellow. I tried disconnecting various things to no avail. I also tried another monitor with similar results
[20:26] <sebsebseb> Tao: uh yes I already suggested going to ##hardware with that, but you  haven't got your name registered yet or something?
[20:26] <Tao> Yeah
[20:26] <Tao> I have
[20:26] <Tao> I'm ##hardware
[20:26] <Tao> I haven't gotten a response yet
[20:26] <h00k> CloudLevi: I have no idea, I haven't used Pidgin in a while
[20:26] <sebsebseb> Tao: well patience then
[20:26] <sebsebseb> Tao: ask later even in there
[20:26] <Tao> Yeah
[20:26] <poincare101> CloudLevi: irssi is cool.
[20:26] <Tao> Mhm
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> zamnedix, are you sure you have a recordable/blank dvdr in your drive?
[20:27] <CloudLevi> poincare101: what's that?
[20:27] <sebsebseb> Tao: or maybe try another channel with your issue such as #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <zamnedix> ZykoticK9: It's a Verbatim DVD+RW right out of the spindle
[20:27] <poincare101> CloudLevi: alternative to Pidgin if you're having trouble...
[20:27] <CloudLevi> poincare101: If it doesn't have SMS then it's not an option at all.
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> zamnedix, perhaps /dev/cdrom is pointing to the wrong drive?  if you have more then 1 optical.
[20:28] <llutz> zamnedix: same if you use: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=file.iso ?
[20:28] <zamnedix> ZykoticK9: Only have one drive. Now that I realize it though, the system isn't recognizing that there is a disc there at all, so I think I'll put in another disc to make sure it works
[20:29] <samuel_Sayag> hi
[20:29] <samuel_Sayag>  I'm looking for consol image displayer
[20:29] <Nuc134rB0t> hello everyone
[20:29] <samuel_Sayag> does anyone know one ?
[20:29] <goddard> What does SSH Agent do?
[20:29] <zamnedix> llutz: Yes, same results
[20:30] <sinisterstuf> ZykoticK9: ok, i tried, and i just had to restart my session, i opened warsow, ctrl+alt+del is not available and on quiting the game from the game menu compiz didn't work anymore
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> sinisterstuf, if your using Karmic BTW ctrl+alt+backspace has been superseeded by alt+sysrq+k to restart X
[20:30] <llutz> goddard: man ssh-agent
[20:30] <sinisterstuf> ZykoticK9: oh
[20:30] <GodricBrutus> I can't play any music on rhythymbox. http://pastebin.com/Ws9MFc0p can anyone help?
[20:31] <Nuc134rB0t> can anyone help me fix my graphic acceleration?
[20:31] <goddard> Is ssh agent a required program for a desktop?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: ok without going on the pastebin, have you got MP3 codec installed?
[20:31] <CloudLevi> h00k: Ugh...now the IAS won't change off green at all...
[20:31] <Nuc134rB0t> i had it working but install and removed a nvidia card now and messed it all up
[20:31] <GodricBrutus> yes, but i dont have any mp3s. i have flac and ape, and neither play
[20:32] <kjcole> I'm rescuing a system and have booted from a Karmic CD, mounted the errant disk, chroot'd to it.  But I'm getting complaints that it cannot create /dev/null.
[20:32] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: that's odd, flac should play, and I am not sure about the other format
[20:32] <GodricBrutus> sebner, yes, but i dont have any mp3s. i have flac and ape, and neither play
[20:32] <kjcole> The /dev/null appears to already be there.
[20:32] <GodricBrutus> sebner, the pastebin is a 'crash report' i think
[20:32] <sebner> GodricBrutus: wrong one
[20:32] <Nuc134rB0t> goddard, if you are going to delete it do it, its not requiered
[20:33] <kjcole> apt-get update complains "[Working]FATAL -> Could not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor" as well.
[20:33] <CloudLevi> h00k: At least it doesn't kill MSN every time I use it... =-=;;; I'll have to deal with it later. Each and every problem I have with it appears to be the result of either of two user errors: Not restarting /// leaving something on during installation...
[20:33] <mavrick> val1979@
[20:33] <GodricBrutus> sebsebseb,  the pastebin is a 'crash report' i think
[20:33] <brad_> Does anyone have any idea why my mouse may not be functioning?
[20:33] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: yeah I just went on it
[20:33] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: doesn't really tell me anything useful
[20:33] <brad_> It works on the login screen, but as soon I login
[20:33] <brad_> it will not move, or click
[20:33] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: so you open up rythombox try to play music and it crashes?
[20:34] <goddard> anyone have experience modifing blue tooth devices?
[20:34] <GodricBrutus> sebsebseb, it doesnt shut down, and close. it just doesnt play music
[20:34] <poincare101> goddard: like, hardware?
[20:34] <poincare101> goddard: you may want to try the arduino XBeee...
[20:34] <Mike__> My question is that the ubuntu default lamp install where installs the php ? I need it to cron so please tell me where is the default php directory.
[20:35] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: could try re instaling rythombox,   another player and stuff like that
[20:35] <dotnetted_> anyone know of a media player for ubuntu that has a built in media server (or integrates well with a local one) ?
[20:35] <Mike__> /usr/local/bin/php /home/username/public_html/scripts/your_script.php
[20:35] <GodricBrutus> sebsebseb, HAHA! this is the weirdest thing. So i had VLC on pause, so i closed VLC, and now rhythymbox plays music
[20:35] <dotnetted_> like windows media player does for windows
[20:35] <llutz> Mike__: "which php"
[20:35] <poincare101> Mike__: what are you talking about? What do you want to do exactly?
[20:35] <inglor> I intend to change processors in a machine (c2d 4300 to c2d 6850), is this supposed to cause problems in the OS? will I need to format or update anything?
[20:35] <goddard> poincare101 I have a logitech wireless blue tooth headset and I want to modifiy the USB reciver
[20:35] <brad_> Anyone?
[20:35] <Mike__> i want to add a php script to cronjob
[20:35] <inglor> dotnetted_: vlc media player perhaps
[20:35] <Mike__> and i need the default php directory.
[20:35] <poincare101> goddard: want do you want to modify it to do?
[20:36] <Mike__> /usr/local/bin/php /home/username/public_html/scripts/your_script.php
[20:36] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: sound will sometimes be a bit odd in Ubuntu,  since the way they do pulseaudio
[20:36] <llutz> Mike__: "which php"
[20:36] <iceroot> Mike__: tpye "which php"
[20:36] <poincare101> Mike__: which php as llutz said (if I understand correctly)
[20:36] <goddard> poincare101 Open to multiple devices
[20:36] <inglor> Mike__: I'd ask in the default php channel, but it's pretty simple if I recall correctly
[20:36] <zamnedix> Ok, my disc drive reads DVD's, but isn't reading any of my DVDRW's, so do I need a different kind of drive?
[20:36] <Mike__> thank you!
[20:36] <sebsebseb> GodricBrutus: well I guess what I just said is true, or at least half true
[20:36] <GodricBrutus> sebsebseb, weird. thanks
[20:36] <inglor> zamnedix: is it particularly old? is this a new problem?
[20:37] <iceroot> Mike__: also, use shebangs instead of using the php-path
[20:37] <poincare101> goddard: that's pretty hard considering that most of the new bluetooth recievers are all SMD and you can't even see the parts. I would recommend you start from scratch if you want to DIY but I would mostly recommend just buyin' a better receiver :)
[20:37] <Mike__> shebangs ?
[20:37] <zamnedix> inglor:I don't think it's very old, and I've never tried a DVD RW before, so it's not a new problem
[20:37] <Spreadsheet_> Will 10.04 have GNOME 2.30?
[20:37] <brad_> Has anyone had a problem with their mouse not working right from the start of the session?
[20:37] <goddard> poincare101 alright thanks for the advice
[20:37] <brad_> Ihave tried restarting X
[20:37] <brad_> but no dice
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: yes and #ubuntu+1 is the channel for Lucid at the moment
[20:38] <Mike__> iceroot: shebangs ?
[20:38] <Spreadsheet_> What's the Ubuntu release party channel?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: as far as I know that's not open yet
[20:38] <Spreadsheet_> What would it be?
[20:39] <ricko> Hi, is there a separate ppc channel?
[20:39] <xangua> yes
[20:39] <inglor> zamnedix: I don't have any dvdrw experience, but I'm guessing you need the dvd+rw-tools package
[20:39] <xangua> !ppc > ricko
[20:39] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: it gets opended  some time a bit before the next Ubuntu release  #ubuntu-release-party
[20:39] <zamnedix> inglor: I've got it. :(
[20:39] <Spreadsheet_> sebsebseb: thanks
[20:40] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: np
[20:40] <brad_> If anyone could help id really appreciate it - I really need to get this mouse working
[20:40] <inglor> zamnedix: did you try to dvd+rw-format -force?
[20:40] <zamnedix> inglor: No I did not, I shall try that
[20:40] <inglor> zamnedix: look at this thread http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623889&page=2
[20:41] <iceroot> Mike__: #!/path/to/interpreter
[20:41] <inglor> I intend to change processors in a machine (c2d 4300 to c2d 6850), is this supposed to cause problems in the OS? will I need to format or update anything?
[20:41] <sinisterstuf> brad_: sorry, i wasn't here, what's your problem?
[20:41] <iceroot> inglor: you ca change hardware without problems in linux
[20:41] <ikonia> iceroot: it will be fine
[20:41] <jeff__> Howdy all, if I installed a second distro after Ubuntu how would I make it so Ubuntu's grub is the default boot manager again?
[20:41] <ikonia> oops
[20:41] <ikonia> inglor: it will be fine
[20:41] <Mike__> iceroot: okay, thanx
[20:41] <brad_> sinisterstuf: I have an issue with my mouse, it will work at the login, but as soon as I get into ubuntu, it fails
[20:42] <brad_> sinisterstuf: The mouse buttons will not work either
[20:42] <ikonia> jeff__: you'd have to apply grub2 again to the MBR, however with ubuntu's new grub configuration file in /etc it makes using ubuntu as the controlling grub manager very very hard. It's a poor design
[20:42] <sinisterstuf> brad_: is it a usb mouse?
[20:42] <inglor> iceroot, ikonia, will it support virtualization? because this is the main reason I am switching (won't there be a kernel problem?)
[20:42] <jeff__> ikonia how would I reapply it to the MBR?
[20:43] <brad_> No its a synaptics touch pad
[20:43] <cybercrasher> !chat
[20:43] <ikonia> !Grub2 > jeff__
[20:43] <cybercrasher> !ubuntu-it
[20:43] <drknzz> Network:   Card-1 Attansic Corp. Device 1063 driver atl1c v: 1.0.0.1-NAPI at port 2000
[20:43] <drknzz>            Card-2 Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver ath9k
[20:43] <cybercrasher> #ubuntu-it
[20:43] <brad_> It was working a couple of hours ago and I restarted, and it just stopped working
[20:43] <inglor> iceroot, ikonia, I mean there has to be -some- problem with changing hardware, isn't there? I mean, can I just stick my ubuntu formatted hard-disk to another machine and it'll work?
[20:43] <brad_> sinisterstuf: I know its not hardware issues, cause as I said, it works fine during login
[20:43] <drknzz> inglor: Windows has problems with that, linux wont
[20:44] <Noble> where can I get the latest i386 desktop as an .img file?
[20:44] <inglor> drknzz, the main reason I am asking is because the reason for the switch is partially virtualization, which the new processor supports and the old one does not, will virtualization now work out of the box? won't it require some sort of kernel recompile?
[20:44] <fnogarin> Hi Folk, I am running Ubuntu karmic desktop 64. While I am browsing files in nautilus, it opens every folder in the icon view, I want to make the default list view. is this even possible?
[20:44] <Fiveways> whats the best utility to configure your xorg.conf?
[20:44] <brad_> sinisterstuf: I have tried using an earlier kernel
[20:44] <drknzz> inglor: if you compiled a custom kernel, else it will work oob
[20:45] <sinisterstuf> brad_: there might be a setting
[20:45] <Fiveways> i guess best is relative, but whats the easiest way to go about it?
[20:45] <Kevin_Williams> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Studio, but it's still on a terminal window. I keep entering "sudo login", but it won't login
[20:45] <sinisterstuf> brad_: perhaps in the bios? let me think
[20:45] <inglor> drknzz: didn't compile a custom kernel, will make the switch ty
[20:45] <drknzz> Fiveways: there is no utility for doing that afaik, googling it should help you
[20:45] <Kevin_Williams> Can someone help me with that?
[20:45] <drknzz> inglor: np, good luck
[20:46] <brad_> sinisterstuf: Well, I cant see it being the BIOS as it works during login - Could it be X?
[20:46] <inglor> Kevin_Williams: what are you trying to accomplish by "sudo login"
[20:46] <Fiveways> drknzz: ive been googling stuff for 3 days, no luck :)
[20:46] <fnogarin> Sorry, RTFM worked. I retract and resent my question ;-)
[20:46] <Kravlin> you resent it?
[20:46] <drknzz> Fiveways: what uu want to do?
[20:46] <eax> Hi there
[20:46] <eax> I'm trying to run my own little host for fun (yes I know the implications and crappy bandwidth is a problem but that's a problem I will deal with later).
[20:46] <eax> The problem is that I want BOTH the apache-user "www-data" and the ftp-user "ftpuser".
[20:46] <eax> I want both to be able to read/write on the folders I make for each user.
[20:46] <eax> Is there a way to do this?
[20:46] <FloodBot1> eax: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47] <Fiveways> trying to enable hardware acceleration in 9.10, everytime i install the nvidia drivers X either doesn't start or I get a flickering console instead of gui at boot
[20:47] <inglor> Fiveways: what graphics adapter are you using?
[20:47] <drknzz> eax: yes, run "man chown" in a console :)
[20:47] <Fiveways> a pny 7900gs 256mb
[20:47] <Guest53990> yes
[20:47] <Fiveways> 2 of them are installed but im only using 1
[20:47] <RedNifre> Hi
[20:47] <Mike__> iceroot: now i see that not is necessary that give for cron the ,,full'' tab of php, it's enough only ,,php''... like: php /home/username/public_html/scripts/your_script.php
[20:47] <sinisterstuf> brad_: did it work in earlier versions?
[20:48] <Mike__> *path
[20:48] <Kevin_Williams> Can someone help me with my problem?
[20:48] <iceroot> inglor: of course, you can put the hardisk in any other system with same architecut
[20:48] <eax> drknzz: But can I use that to set permissions for two users at the same time?
[20:48] <inglor> Fiveways: how are you installing the nvidia drivers? is it through the Hardware Drivers tool
[20:48] <drknzz> !ask | Kevin_Williams
[20:48] <inglor> iceroot, ty :)
[20:48] <iceroot> Mike__: only if you set PATH in the cronjob
[20:48] <Guest53990> good mornig
[20:48] <Fiveways> inglor: yeah, i tried it that way
[20:48] <drknzz> eax: yup, you can even make it completely public
[20:48] <Fiveways> as well as envyng, and through the package manager (all on seperate installs)
[20:49] <Kevin_Williams> I asked my question already!
[20:49] <Fiveways> same thing
[20:49] <eax> drknzz: Okay thanks :)
[20:49] <drknzz> eax, :)
[20:49] <inglor> Fiveways: have you tried installing an older version of the driver?
[20:49] <fnogarin> Kravlin: better word, regret :-)
[20:49] <Guest53990> please
[20:49] <Mike__> iceroot: now i typed in terminal php /var/www/myscript.php and it works ?
[20:49] <drknzz> !patience | Kevin_Williams
 I'm trying to install Ubuntu Studio, but it's still on a terminal window. I keep entering "sudo login", but it won't login
[20:49] <RedNifre> Where can I find the system requirements for ubuntu 10.4?
[20:49] <Mike__> * -?
[20:49] <sinisterstuf> brad_: can you navigate to the mouse settings menu using your keyboard?
[20:49] <Fiveways> inglor: i've tried 3 different versions. 185, 173 i think, and 96..or whichever options were listed in the hardware drivers
[20:49] <xangua> RedNifre: in ubuntu.com
[20:49] <iceroot> Mike__: as i said, it comes from PATH
[20:49] <markyh> Kevin_Williams - yes, two people asked you what you are trying to acheive by 'sudo login'
[20:49] <drknzz> Kevin_Williams: that sounds more like a runlevel issue
[20:50] <The-Moon> Hello everyones, would anyone have a few minutes to help me install Ubuntu. Im trying to figure out how to get to the Disk Options to setup my hard drive for linux. Ubuntu installs, but then after i restart windows loads up.
[20:50] <xangua> Kevin_Williams: tried in #ubuntustudio'¿
[20:50] <inglor> Fiveways: you can *try* to install the 195 drivers from the nvidia website
[20:50] <drknzz> !grub | The-Moon
[20:50] <pmcclelland> what is the best music player to use?
[20:50] <Fiveways> inglor: the drivers from the site were the FIRST thing i tried :( lol
[20:50] <sinisterstuf> The-Moon: are they installed on different drives?
[20:50] <iceroot> !best | pmcclelland
[20:51] <RedNifre> xangua: Where? I can't find it.
[20:51] <sebsebseb> !banshee | pmcclelland
[20:51] <xangua> pc1oad1etter: i like the default in ubuntu
[20:51] <inglor> Fiveways: or you can bet on the limited and experimental support of the nouveau project
[20:51] <drknzz> pmcclelland: use them all and make your choice?
[20:51] <The-Moon> thank you ubottu
[20:51] <Fiveways> experimental support for something that works > something thats supposed to work but doesnt :)
[20:51] <sebsebseb> !thanks | The-Moon
[20:51] <pmcclelland> yeah just tried amarok seemed glitchy under 10.04
[20:51] <RedNifre> The-Moon: Does the installation give you any errors?
[20:51] <The-Moon> :|
[20:51] <drknzz> lol The-Moon ^^
[20:51] <iceroot> pmcclelland: #ubuntu+1
[20:51] <h00k> Fiveways: I agree. Also, nouveau is quite nice in Lucid, just FYI.
[20:52] <The-Moon> no, it installs fine, i just need to setup the hard drive partitions
[20:52] <Mike__> iceroot: ok. And I say thanks again.
[20:52] <Sync-Master> irc.mildnet.org #Card #FullInfo #goodcc #get #bl #ma #ardJoin All Channel
[20:52] <Fiveways> maybe i'll have to try it. at this point i just want it to work
[20:52] <Sync-Master> irc.mildnet.org #Card #FullInfo #goodcc #get #bl #ma #ardJoin All Channel
[20:52] <Sync-Master> irc.mildnet.org #Card #FullInfo #goodcc #get #bl #ma #ardJoin All Channel
[20:52] <FloodBot1> Sync-Master: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <RedNifre> Huh? You can't install if the partitions aren't set up yet.
[20:52] <Fiveways> ive actually never had problems in ubuntu until this version
[20:52] <drknzz> The-Moon: Try changing the HD the pc boots from in the BIOS
[20:52] <sebsebseb> The-Moon: good idea to set up seperate /home on install in the manual install.  you want like 10GB for / big seperate home and your  SWAP space
[20:52] <pmcclelland> iceroot: ok I will try there
[20:52] <sllide> how do i install rpm files on ubuntu?
[20:53] <The-Moon> i load up ubuntu and i select install now, and it installs but dosent delet the old partition and windows still loads
[20:53] <nicark> What's the difference between ubuntu remix and regular ubuntu? Is it only it's graphical interface? I'm planning on installing openbox later, so I shouldn't even bother with ubuntu remix, right?
[20:53] <inglor> Fiveways: this is odd indeed, did you change anything in your xorg.conf file manually before installing the drivers?
[20:53] <xangua> sllide: what do you want to install¿
[20:53] <Fiveways> no
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> sllide:  only as a last resort
[20:53] <sllide> pose
[20:53] <sebsebseb> The-Moon: the guided installs are also ok.  they won't do seperate /home though, but not everyone has a proper reason to do that anyway
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> !alien | sllide
[20:53] <sllide> i cant find any source
[20:53] <The-Moon> let me figure out grub, im sure thats what i need
[20:53] <RedNifre> I can't find the 10.4 system requirements. :(
[20:53] <Fiveways> inglor: thats why I don't understand why its not working :(
[20:53] <sebsebseb> The-Moon: oh you want to go Ubuntu only?
[20:53] <sllide> hmm
[20:53] <xangua> mm it was there the last time i visit it RedNifre; i suppose between 256 and 512mb for gnome desktop as minimum
[20:53] <The-Moon> yes of course
[20:53] <Espirito> Somebody use DataBase Firebird here? I am having trouble installing with Synaptic and I'm not getting the command line with the package .gz  . Can anyone help me?
[20:53] <The-Moon> this is my "server" computer im putting ubuntu on
[20:54] <sebsebseb> The-Moon: have you done the server edition as well?
[20:54] <sllide> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pose/files/
[20:54] <sllide> only .rpm files >.<
[20:54] <drknzz> Espirito: If its a GZ it isnt installed via synaptic or apt
[20:54]  * Fiveways throws his computer out of the window 
[20:54] <The-Moon> well when i say server, i mean mostly for downloading torrents, and talking to people and maybe setting up a ftp, but id rather just use normal ubuntu for now :)
[20:54] <drknzz> Espirito: Are you sure it isnt source code?
[20:54] <RedNifre> xangua: I'm looking for the recommended setting, not the minimal one. :-/
[20:54] <sebsebseb> The-Moon: ok the yeah you won't normal Ubuntu
[20:54] <xangua> sllide: i see pose in the repositories: aptitude search pose
[20:54] <sebsebseb> want
[20:54] <sllide> yeah
[20:54] <RedNifre> maybe they don't publish it while it's still in Beta? :(
[20:54] <sllide> but that version doesnt work for some reason..
[20:55] <sllide> it keeps saying that the type of rom isnt suported on that version
[20:55] <sebsebseb> The-Moon: if  you can't delete the Windows partition from CD, maybe you got a bad hard disk, or CD
[20:55] <Fiveways> h00k: is nouveau pretty easy to setup?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > The-Moon
[20:55] <xangua> RedNifre: well the recommended would be 512 mb
[20:55] <sebsebseb> The-Moon: oh and I am about to leave computer, but there will be other people in here of course, that can help you, good luck
[20:55] <inglor> Fiveways: sorry, your best bet is probably contacting nvidia,
[20:55] <Fiveways> O_O
[20:55] <ayam_jago> my screen resolution ubuntu karmic is 800x600 how to change it? axioo sis3 mirage graphic?
[20:55] <h00k> Fiveways: we can take this into #ubuntu+1 if you'd like, but if you want a quick answer, there isn't anything to do to 'set up' nouveau on Lucid. It just works.
[20:55] <RedNifre> The-Moon: Try the GParted disk, it can format your computer any way you like
[20:55] <Espirito> drknzz: I try with synaptic and try with ./install.sh and try compiling of the source and all have a problems
[20:55] <RedNifre> xangua: Thanks, that's good news.
[20:56] <The-Moon> Where is the gparted disk?
[20:56] <inglor> Fiveways: nouveau is easy to set up, but 3d support is very experimental at best
[20:56] <drknzz> Espirito: is your program on the repos?
[20:56] <sebsebseb> !gparted | The-Moon
[20:56] <drknzz> ayam_jago: search for restricted drivers in the menu
[20:56] <The-Moon> awesome i can use my usb card for it?
[20:56] <danyR> The-Moon: it's recomendable to use gparted in a live cd envuronment
[20:56] <RedNifre> The-Moon: It's on the internet! ;) It's a linux live CD. The only function is to partition your computer any way you like. It supports all formats except ZFS.
[20:56] <danyR> environment*
[20:56] <The-Moon> meaning i can stick it on a usb drive and format the hard drive?
[20:57] <sebsebseb> !usb | The-Moon
[20:57] <danyR> you can use a standard ubuntu live cd
[20:57] <RedNifre> Here's GParted: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[20:57] <abenthy> hi, im using the ath5k driver for my netbook and i want to change the mac address of wlan0, it works great, but wmaster0 keeps my old mac and i can't change the mac of wmaster0: SIOCSIFHWADDR: Operation not supported <- any ideas how to change the mac of wmaster0?
[20:57] <RedNifre> It can shrink windows partitions to make room for ubuntu.
[20:57] <The-Moon> hehe you guys are talking so much its hard to keep up
[20:57] <Espirito> drknzz: How so? I did not understand your question.
[20:57] <Espirito> The three ways that were tried with packages downloaded from the site of the firebird.
[20:58] <drknzz> Espirito: Is firebird on ubuntu repos?
[20:58] <drknzz> !repos | Espirito
[20:58] <RedNifre> The-Moon: It's best to put GParted on a CD. I don't even know if it's possible to run GParted from a USB drive, but you could try. :)
[20:58] <drknzz> abenthy: Try your command as root?
[20:59] <drknzz> RedNifre: Just put ubuntu image on the pendrive, it has gparted too
[20:59] <The-Moon> ill just use a cd, however, shouldnt the Ubuntu cd already give me a format screen?
[20:59] <Espirito> drknzz e ubottu: They are in the repository, so that they are in synaptic!
[20:59] <ramblagir> I'm running the 10.04 RC; I can't quite figure out how to sync my computer with Ubuntu One; I tried going into the preferences panel and logging in, but nothing's working.
[20:59] <RedNifre> When accessing shares on my NAS via CIFS, sometimes it crashes and all Nautilus windows close and the desktop icons turn invisible. Is this fixed in 10.04?
[20:59] <The-Moon> the last time i used ubuntu i thought it did, maybe im mistaken
[21:00] <RedNifre> Does Ubuntu One also work from Windows/Macs? You know, like Dropbox does?
[21:00] <drknzz> Espirito: Then install firebird from repos :]
[21:00] <danyR> The-Moon: when installing Ubuntu, you'll have  a partitioning screen. however, you should first organize your partitions using gparted in the live cd
[21:00] <brad_> Hey all, does anyone know how to reset mouse settings back to default?
[21:00] <brad_> or just all the settings back to default
[21:00] <brad_> lol
[21:00] <danyR> RedNifre: a port was in work, I think. don't know about now
[21:00] <dfgas> ok with the minimize and max and close on the left, how do i get on right under oem so that way any new user after that will have it on right instead of left?
[21:01] <danyR> brad rm -r .gconf .gnome2
[21:01] <Espirito> drknzz e ubottu: yes, but when I install via sinaptic it says the package ... server-commom is broken.
[21:01] <dfgas> for 10.4
[21:01] <RedNifre> What I would need is ubuntu one server for my own server. I don't like to have my files on somebody else's server. :(
[21:01] <danyR> in a shell
[21:01] <brad_> thanks danyR
[21:01] <danyR> brad_:  and then log in and log out
[21:01] <h00k> dfgas: for 10.04 support, head over to #ubuntu+1
[21:01] <drknzz> Espirito: youll have ton install firebird via aptitude
[21:01] <eax> drknzz: I cannot seem to find out how to do it. Would I add www-data and ftpuser to a group and then add permissions or??
[21:01] <drknzz> Espirito: from the command line, it will tell you what you can do
[21:02] <RedNifre> Does Ubuntu One at least run on other Linux Distros?
[21:02] <drknzz> eax, hmmm, there must be a "users and groups" entry in the system menu
[21:02] <Espirito> ok I try]
[21:02] <drknzz> RedNifre: yup
[21:02] <eax> drknzz: Yes?
[21:03] <danyR> RedNifre: kubuntu at least :) and the web interface is always on :P
[21:03] <llutz> eax: man addgroup, man adduser
[21:03] <drknzz> eax: yeah, i think u can use that, but im using linux mint, so i cant really help you find it
[21:04] <eax> llutzz: I know about users and groups thanks :) what I need to know is how I set the permissions of a folder so that all users in group have full rights to it
[21:04] <eax> drknzz: Found it thanks :) Just need to figure out the chmod now
[21:04] <llutz> eax: man chown, man chmod
[21:04] <RedNifre> Is it possible to create my own Ubuntu One server?
[21:04] <Espirito> drknzz: same
[21:04] <devkhadka> is there any thing like fpaste command in fedora for ubuntu
[21:04] <llutz> eax: sudo chmod g+rwx /folder
[21:04] <eax> llutz: Okay thanks :)
[21:04] <drknzz> eax: use the dialog instead, its a frontend for both :]
[21:05] <llutz> !pastebinit | devkhadka
[21:05] <eax> drknzz: okay, thanks ^^
[21:05] <llutz> eax: learn to use the basic tools, it will be helpfull
[21:05] <RedNifre> Aw, the Ubuntu One home page is so bad... Nearly no information. :(
[21:05] <eax> llutz: I know thanks :)
[21:05] <drknzz> Espirito: google up? I dont know what else can help you
[21:05] <danyR> RedNifre: at the moment i think no. not all the components are yet open-source -> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone
[21:05] <RedNifre> Has anyone compared dropbox and Ubuntu One? What's the difference?
[21:06] <RedNifre> that sucks.
[21:06] <guntbert> !ubuntuone | RedNifre
[21:06] <Espirito> drknzz: sam
[21:06] <Espirito> drknzz: thx
[21:06] <drknzz> Espirito: np
 ayam_jago: search for restricted drivers in the menu: which menu?
[21:07] <drknzz> ayam_jago: the system menu ;)
[21:08] <sprung> Hi. I don't know what the package name is for kwallet. I have googled for about 10 minutes. Any suggestions would be welcome. I want to install kwallet because it enhances the usability of Amarok.
[21:08] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  I used an ubuntu start-disk to create a portable operating system on my usb disk...
[21:08] <howlymowly> I now want to access that system using ssh..
[21:08] <The-Moon> lol neat
[21:08] <llutz> sprung: kwalletmanager
[21:08] <sprung> sudo apt-get install kwallet comes up empty
[21:08] <sprung> ah
[21:08] <sprung> thanks llutz
[21:08] <ayam_jago> drknzz, i think no restricted drivers on System?
[21:08] <howlymowly> what do I do with the password?  using "ubuntu" username it asks me for a password.. but I don't have one?
[21:09] <drknzz> !x | ayam_jago
[21:09] <red2kic> kwalletcli is available too. cli > gui :)
[21:09] <sprung> that was it! thanks again
[21:09] <sprung> ok
[21:09] <guntbert> howlymowly: no password - just press <enter>
[21:09] <gogeta> howlymowly: a live cd shouldent even ask
[21:09] <lorenzo> how can i find italian channe.
[21:09] <llutz> !it
[21:09] <lorenzo> how can i find italian channell
[21:09] <sprung> red2kic, i don't see kwalletcli
[21:09] <ayam_jago> drknzz, my driver still unknown monitor
[21:09] <lorenzo> thanks
[21:09] <howlymowly> gogeta, guntbert: well.. if I use ssh to access the live cd :)?
[21:09] <Oer> howlymowly, if you leave username empty, pass - ubuntu
[21:09] <drknzz> ayam_jago: Go to th elink ubottu said
[21:10] <sinisterstuf> !italian | lorenzo
[21:11] <ayam_jago> drknzz, no xorg.conf on my /etc/X11 ?
[21:12] <drknzz> ayam_jago: o_o
[21:12] <gogeta> ayam_jago: yea it auto sets itsself
[21:12] <gogeta> ayam_jago: you can genrate one if you need to change something
[21:12] <abenthy> hi, im using the ath5k driver for my netbook and i want to change the mac address of wlan0, it works great, but wmaster0 keeps my old mac and i can't change the mac of wmaster0: SIOCSIFHWADDR: Operation not supported <- any ideas how to change the mac of wmaster0?
[21:13] <ayam_jago> gogeta, how to generate it??
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> ayam_jago, http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[21:15] <jef91> Did they remove the normal desktop mode from UNR 9.10?
[21:15] <ayam_jago> ZykoticK9, thanks.. it works now.. :D
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> jef91, yes - no switcher
[21:16] <ayam_jago> ZykoticK9, can i install compiz if the monitor still Unknown?
[21:16] <jef91> ZykoticK9 Any idea off hand what that package is called? I'd like to add it back in
[21:16] <abenthy> is there someone to help me with the wlan0/wmaster0 problematic? i can't change the mac address of my wmaster0
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> ayam_jago, not sure man
[21:16] <mandrew> anyone here that is using gnome shells?
[21:16] <jef91> ayam_jago Compiz is installed by default
[21:17] <ZykoticK9> jef91, the switcher?  no idea.  If you want full desktop gnome-desktop or similar package
[21:17] <gogeta> ayam_jago: well anything you put in the xorg.conf overrides the auto
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:17] <aids> hi i am internet sharing problem help me :(
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> !ics | aids
[21:18] <ayam_jago> gogeta, yes i use the X -configure.. ive download driver and install it, but my monitor still on unknown mode
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> jef91, so sorry that's ubuntu-desktop
[21:18] <ayam_jago> xorg-driver-sis671_0.9_i386.deb
[21:19] <sinisterstuf> blui: as far as i know you cannot change your mac address, read this: http://is.gd/bHzPV
[21:19] <gogeta> ayam_jago: sudo Xorg -configure should genrate a new one
[21:19] <ZykoticK9> ayam_jago, i could be wrong - but you might not be able to get compiz working with an sis graphics card.
[21:19] <duffydack> Is there any way to get eye of gnome to scroll thru images with wheel and not have it zoom in/out?
[21:20] <duffydack> Ive looked at the eog-plugins package, no go.
[21:20] <fauzy1> anyone here tried installing a mainstream kern?
[21:20] <poincare101> fauzy1: with 'buntu? Bad idea.
[21:20] <gogeta> ayam_jago: well jnowing the monoter name isnt relly a issue if you knoe its settings
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> !kernel > fauzy1
[21:20] <ZaRD> hello
[21:20] <poincare101> fauzy1: ubuntu has not even touched debian's codebase, just built on top of it, if debian brekas ubuntu will kill you.
[21:21] <fauzy1> really? i ran into build errors with one of them
[21:21] <xixor> Yo, is there a quick way to determine the type of GPU installed and how much video memory is installed?
[21:21] <fauzy1> ok
[21:21] <fauzy1> thanks
[21:21] <RedNifre> Good night everyone!
[21:21] <soreau> ZykoticK9: You're right. SiS doesn't have the hw caps nor drivers to run compiz
[21:21] <fauzy1> guess i am stuck with a half working mouse then
[21:21] <red2kic> !info kwalletcli | sprung
[21:21] <fauzy1> argg
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> xixor, "lspci | grep -i vga" for the video card type - memory is more difficult
[21:21] <red2kic> !info kwalletcli lucid | sprung
[21:21] <red2kic> sprung: You will... In a week.
[21:22] <rocket16> What is the command to start Ubuntu-one? I can't find it on the menu.
[21:22] <sprung> red2kic, ok
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> soreau, i know i'd seen issues with sis + compiz before - but don't really follow them
[21:22] <john> Hi group does anyone know of a Autocad reader for Ubuntu
[21:22] <xixor> ZykoticK9: I think glxinfo or glinfo will say the amount of video memory, but I can't figure out which packages to install
[21:22] <rocket16> john: Qcad will do the job. It is compatible with Autocad.
[21:22] <sprung> john: not within supported packages, but http://lx-viewer.sourceforge.net/
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> xixor, i don't believe either does actually.  nvidia-settings shows you for nvidia based cards
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> john: possibly irfanview in wine
[21:23] <sprung> john, if you try lx-viewer which I just linked you, you will not get support for the app in this channel.
[21:23] <sprung> just warning you
[21:24] <Tao> Well, I fixed my earlier problem.
[21:24] <sprung> john, you may want to stick with qcad since it is more supported
[21:24] <gogeta> sprung: why would you say that we support everything if wwe knoe it
[21:24] <Tao> Now I have another one >.<
[21:25] <sprung> Tao, it is unlikely anyone here remembers what your problem was
[21:25] <john> ok will do
[21:25] <Tao> heh
[21:25] <Tao> It hasn't been too long
[21:25] <brianherman_home> what is the package for all the wireless drivers in ubuntu
[21:25] <john> looking at qcad now
[21:25] <Tao> Maybe thirty minutes but whateever
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> brianherman_home: there isnt one
[21:25] <red2kic> brianherman_home: Try !wireless ?
[21:26] <brianherman_home> !wireless
[21:26] <Tao> Ok, now my network connection is gone. It was up and running yesterday, but when I cut the computer on earlier, it didn't show up
[21:26] <sprung> gogeta, i'm not looking for an argument here, but actually we don't support everything in this channel, at all. we try to send people to other channels which specialize in specific apps, and if something is not an ubuntu package, really you're not supposed to be looking for support with it here
[21:26] <skyl> is IEs4Linux the way to go to get some nasty IE6 action?
[21:26] <gogeta> sprung: then you better start sending half the channel to wine
[21:27] <sprung> gogeta, no joke on that, and i feel your pain
[21:27] <sprung> gogeta, really you SHOULD be sending half the channel to #winehq for wine issues
[21:27] <brianherman_home> It works on the livecd but not on the hard drive
[21:27] <orson> how do i prevent some executed commands being added to .bash_history?
[21:27] <brianherman_home> Ill just load the RC
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sprung: depends on the situation, we want users to have the best support and if another channel can do it then surely thats good advice
[21:27] <gogeta> sprung: well we dont point is we cover it if someone knoes the issue
[21:27] <red2kic> skyl: Just make a dialog "IE6 is not supported since 1996. Please install Firefox or something, you know?" You know?
[21:28] <danyR> orson: are you using porn commands? :D (sorry, couldn't resist to this one)
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> brianherman_home: then run: sudo lshw -C network   note the driver line, make sure that driver is loaded and it will work the same
[21:28] <skyl> red2kic, I agree but ... how about ie7 :P
[21:28] <sinisterstuf> danyR: lol
[21:28] <gogeta> skyl: why would you even what to install that when you got a perfectly good firefox install
[21:28] <Tao> My network connection is gone. It was up and running yesterday, but when I cut the computer on earlier, it didn't show up. I was using an ethernet cable hooked up to a modem
[21:28] <red2kic> gogeta: Web developers.
[21:29] <Flannel> danyR: Please, that's not appropriate
[21:29] <llutz> orson: export HISTCONTROL=ignorespace     start commands with a "space"
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: don't know about "good" and "firefox" in the same sentance
[21:29] <red2kic> skyl: It's up to you. Firefox is... hawt.
[21:29] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: lol
[21:29] <skyl> gogeta, yeah, web developing ... helping open source projects feed the devil, that kind of thing
[21:29] <sinisterstuf> Tao: have you tried just rebooting the computer again?>
[21:29] <Tao> Thats what I just did
[21:29] <orson> danyR: will tell you when you're grown up
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> skyl: you may need a virtual box to run the app natively to get an accurate test, you will need a windows license and install media
[21:30] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: don't know about "perfectly" and "good" in same sentence too. :)
[21:30] <mininessie> is there anyway to take an mkv file and turn into to a blue ray video
[21:30] <joshjtl> hi folks can anyone recommend a live distro to be a print server for windows machines?
[21:30] <sinisterstuf> Taol: and removing the cable and plugging it in again?
[21:30] <danyR> orson: ok, was just a joke. couldn't resist to that one. sorry :)
[21:30] <mininessie> is there anyway to take an mkv file and turn into to a blue ray video
[21:30] <orson> danyR: np
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: puppy :)
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> joshjtl: or xpud
[21:30] <mininessie> is there anyway to take an mkv file and turn into to a blue ray video
[21:30] <sinisterstuf> Tao: and removing the cable and plugging it in again?
[21:30] <joshjtl> ActionParsnip thanks so much
[21:31] <mininessie> is there anyway to take an mkv file and turn into to a blue ray video
[21:31] <gogeta> mininessie: look up blue ray authering linux.
[21:31] <sprung> ActionParsnip, the situation that caused this discussion to come to pass was a little project on sourceforge that might fix a guy's problem but i told him this channel wouldn't be likely to be able to offer support for it
[21:31] <kermit> does the clock's wind/temp function work for anyone?
[21:31] <sinisterstuf> !patience | mininessie
[21:31] <skyl> can you go to 127.0.0.1 served by ubuntu from windows on a VM I wonder .. probably getting further OT here ...
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> kermit: sure does
[21:31] <gogeta> mininessie: thers some tools for that
[21:31] <red2kic> kermit: It does.  Assuming you already set up your location.
[21:32] <mininessie> gogeta: well i want the mkv video when blue ray format is better quality then mkv
[21:32] <kermit> red2kic:  i set it, but maybe it takes a while?
[21:32] <john> Okay I just downloaded the free one to check it out I have the full version of Autocad for Windowssssso but I wil try this one in the workshop out here in the garage
[21:32] <sprung> skyl, 127.0.0.1 is the localhost of whatever machine is currently running. 127.0.0.1 is the virtual machine's localhost, and on the parent server, 127.0.0.1 is localhost for that parent server.
[21:32] <red2kic> kermit: Did you type (ie Chicago, Illin) and see the dropdown menu, select it?  No zip codes.
[21:33] <skyl> sprung, so that would be a no I guess .. hrmph .. yeah, the dialog is starting to look better and better ..
[21:33] <sprung> skyl, that's the same for every tcp/ip networked device in existence. it's a part of the 802.3 standard.
[21:33] <skyl> I see
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> sprung: if the sho fits, as you say, not sure on support. i'm sure we could help somehow
[21:33] <kermit> red2kic: yes
[21:34] <hmw> i cannot make a backup of my ubuntu with partimage. error message: can't read bitmap block 0 from image (i am trying to MAKE an image from a partition!?) what is wrong?
[21:34] <red2kic> kermit: Meh. Maybe it takes a while (but I doubt it). :\
[21:34] <sprung> ActionParsnip, really it was more of a suggestion. Here's one alternative that has a Ubuntu package, and here's something or other on sourceforge that is not packaged that might work
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> kermit, the weather thing in panel clock hasn't worked successfully for me in quite a while.  Hope you have better luck then I do.
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> sprung: 127.0.0.1 is the address of the loopback device ;)
[21:34] <sprung> ActionParsnip, correct
[21:34] <sprung> ActionParsnip, i was explaining it in a more human way
[21:35] <gogeta> mininessie: true but being its aruldy mkv it whont make any diffrence
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sprung: there may be a ppa with a deb which someone has made
[21:35] <perhamlinux> hi
[21:35] <sprung> ActionParsnip, k what's your last word on the policy i love ya but this is becoming a debate
[21:36] <perhamlinux> ubuntu DVD == ubuntu Livecd + ubuntu alternate cd ?
[21:36] <xangua> perhamlinux: no
[21:36] <sinisterstuf> no
[21:36] <gogeta> perhamlinux: i beleve so
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> perhamlinux, no - the dvd just has more packages then the LiveCD, it isn't an alt-cd though
[21:36] <xangua> live dvd has all packages
[21:37] <perhamlinux> ZykoticK9: I can't upgrade my system using the DVD?
[21:37] <kamil> hi
[21:37] <ZykoticK9> perhamlinux, nope - only alt cd
[21:37] <duffydack> "all" packages?  every single package in the repos?
[21:37] <sprung> perhamlinux, and keep in mind, it's cleaner and better to build from scratch, if you don't do it this time within a couple of upgrades trust me you will want to do it
[21:38] <gogeta> duffydack: no just more then the live
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, obviously not everything
[21:38] <kermit> red2kic: let me try something.. what location are you using?
[21:38] <red2kic> kermit: Try "Chicago, Illinois"
[21:38] <perhamlinux> sprung: I can't . I have a heavily customized system
[21:38] <perhamlinux> sprung: I have upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 just fine
[21:38] <sprung> perhamlinux, if that is the case, may i strongly suggest backing up your entire system or at least your system directories before you continue?
[21:39] <perhamlinux> sprung: I will surely do that. ;)
[21:39] <sprung> ok. I have had some bad experiences with highly-customized builds when upgrading
[21:40] <perhamlinux> ZykoticK9: in this list : ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/lucid-dvd-i386.list I can see cdromupgrade script. are you sure that it doesn't upgrade using that?
[21:40] <hellyeah_> one lan
[21:40] <hellyeah_> ops sorry
[21:40] <sprung> perberos, of course, "you should be backing up anyway"
[21:40] <abenthy> o
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> perhamlinux, you should certainly try it!  I've never done updates with CD/DVD before - so i'm certainly not certain!  Just seen the issue discussed many times.
[21:41] <gogeta> perhamlinux: i think even a live cd can do a upgrade with newer ubuntu at least when i out a cd in 9.10 it says so
[21:41] <gogeta> put
[21:41] <demifuror> hey guys, im using the "New Wave" theme on my current Ubuntu install. The thing is, im developing a java app, and Im trying to make the app window look just like the other windows in my install. I.e. top window border as dark grey, menu bar dark grey with white text etc. The thing is, only the top window border is dark grey, the mnu bars arent. im using swing for my interface. does anyone know how to get the window to
[21:41] <demifuror>  use the current theme? does it have to be developed using awt or swt?
[21:41] <endo602> if i have a raid set up
[21:41] <endo602> on my windows 7
[21:41] <endo602> how do i get it to show up on my ubuntu
[21:42] <endo602> its not showing up
[21:42] <perhamlinux> ok guys. thanks everyone . bye
[21:42] <Jordan_U> gogeta: perhamlinux: You can only use the alternate install CD for upgrading.
[21:42] <red2kic> demifuror: Try #java?
[21:42] <gogeta> Jordan_U: as i said if i put a cd in 9.10 that ubuntu it says package cd found maybe that has changed
[21:43] <Jordan_U> gogeta: That doesn't mean that it can be used for upgrades.
[21:43] <mark1> can somone please tell me how to get compiz fusion ?
[21:43] <gogeta> mark1: you have it aruldy
[21:43] <mark1> i dont think i do
[21:44] <gogeta> mark1: go to your prefs and aparance thats compiz
[21:44] <gogeta> mark1: unless you whant more advanced settings
[21:44] <red2kic> demifuror: Swing components don't rely on the native widgets of the operating system. Use SWT.
[21:44] <mark1> cause i ran sudo apt-get install compiz fusion and it said E: Couldn't find package fusion
[21:44] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Though I wish I had scrolled back to see more context before perhamlinux left as the DVD includes the alternate installer (and all of main IIRC) and so can be used to upgrade
[21:45] <mark1> gogeta, yea i want more advanced settings
[21:45] <gogeta> Jordan_U: i thought it did
[21:45] <sprung> ActionParsnip, what is your policy on Ubuntu Tweaks
[21:45] <gogeta> mark1: then you whant the compiz controle panael
[21:45] <mark1> gogeta, how do i get it ?
[21:46] <mark1> gogeta, i want the cube and stuff
[21:46] <gogeta> mark1: should be in the package list in sysanptic
[21:46] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | mark1
[21:46] <gogeta> mark1: just look up xompiz
[21:46] <gogeta> compiz
[21:46] <gogeta> oh they renamed it i guess
[21:46] <sprung> Hey, if anybody knows if it's ok to recommend or help out with Ubuntu Tweaks please tell me, or is Ubuntu Tweaks another Audacity
[21:46] <mark1> ok ill check thanks
[21:47] <xangua> sprung: another audacity¿¿
[21:47] <sprung> wait that was the wrong word
[21:47] <xangua> well as fas as i know tweak is just a gui to make easier some tasks sprung
[21:48] <sprung> there was a package system that was out for Hardy Heron back a couple of years ago and this channel doesn't support it
[21:48] <sprung> Audacity isn't the word
[21:48] <sprung> it actually broke ubuntu if you used it
[21:48] <Flannel> sprung: Automatix, is the program you were looking for :)  And, I recall a few people it caused problems with a little bit ago.  So, I wouldn't
[21:48] <gogeta> sprung: do you mean cnr
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, <OT> regarding the LP question yesterday https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/108299 - "great minds think alike, fools seldom differ" ;) </OT>
[21:48] <skyl> how do I see what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[21:48] <sprung> ah yes Automatix. Don't use that
[21:48] <Flannel> skyl: lsb_release -a
[21:48] <mark1> gogeta i have added it but how do i access it now ?
[21:49] <sprung> Yes, i had to redo my whole system thanks to that piece of crap
[21:49] <gogeta> mark1: should apper in your aparance prefs
[21:49] <gogeta> mark1: or if you installed the other in system
[21:49] <sprung> OK so back to the question: Do we like Ubuntu Tweaks or is it another Automatix?
[21:49] <sprung> regarding this channel
[21:49] <mark1> awesome thanks dude | gogeta
[21:49] <skyl> how's the 9.10 to 10.4 upgrade process looking?  anecdotally ....
[21:50] <Flannel> skyl: ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:50] <delac> mark1: hey, did you manage to do anything with the mtools?
[21:50] <skyl> Flannel, was the official release date not just a few days ago?
[21:50] <Flannel> sprung: In recent memory, there were a few people who it caused problems for a few weeks ago, so I'd stay away from it.
[21:50] <augustl> are there any ubuntu brander USB sticks out there? My googling only returns how to install ubuntu with a usb stick ;)
[21:50] <Flannel> skyl: No, not until Thursday
[21:51] <mark1> whats up delac, not not yet i have been wokring on it with JetPackTuxedo for like 3 hours lol
[21:51] <mark1> but making progress, lol
[21:51] <mark1> the thing is that hides a file i need to hide a folder
[21:51] <gogeta> augustl: its simple to make a usb ubuntu if thats what your asking
[21:51] <delac> mark1: you are? cause i did take a look too, but wasnt able to do much anything...
[21:51] <andiolsi> hi, in installed 10.04 64bit, all the packages are amd64 but i can only acces 3.2gb of ram (i have 4)  how come?
[21:51] <axisys> every time i come back from suspend .. sound stop working.. how do I make pulseaudio wake up? i killed it and it reappeared as it should be .. but that did not fix it
[21:52] <sprung> andiolsi, --> #ubuntu+1
[21:52] <augustl> I'm talking about the visuals on a usb stick, not the data on it
[21:52] <augustl> a normal usb stick, only with a ubuntu logo on it
[21:52] <andiolsi> sprung?
[21:52] <axisys> should i need to give alsa a kick ? how do I go by doing it short from rebooting my laptop ?
[21:52] <sprung> you're a week ahead of what is considered "current"
[21:52] <sprung> you need to go to #ubuntu+1
[21:52] <gogeta> augustl: take a ubuntu sticker and stick it to it lol
[21:52] <augustl> =P
[21:52] <red2kic> augustl: http://tinyurl.com/6kk4sx
[21:52] <andiolsi> sprung: ah, i see
[21:52] <sprung> your release comes out next week
[21:53] <augustl> oh nice stickers, that'll work
[21:53] <red2kic> augustl: Nevermind. I misread you. :3  (It's easy to install Ubuntu onto USB).
[21:53] <augustl> red2kic: no you didn't :)
[21:53] <augustl> that was exactly what I was looking for
[21:53] <gogeta> red2kic: he whants a stick branded ubuntu
[21:54] <red2kic> augustl, gogeta: Oh goodies. I thought he want USB with Ubuntu on it preloaded. :)
[21:54] <gogeta> red2kic: same effect i suppose
[21:54] <mark1> delac, yea ill let you know if i get it
[21:55] <Jordan_U> augustl: Might want to wait untill stickers with the new branding are available.
[21:56] <augustl> Jordan_U: ah, good idea
[21:56] <qwerty01> anyone knows where can I find examples of deterministic pushdown automatons?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> augustl: I would think they'd show up in http://shop.canonical.com fairly soon after 10.04 is released.
[21:57] <tadhg> Can someone help me please? I have actaully reached my wits end with the display resolution on 9.10. The highest I can get is 800x600
[21:57] <soaliensoviral> How do I change keyboard shortcuts in firefox? I want hyper-left to be "back" instead of alt-left.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: ok what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:58] <hiexpo> need to remove a package i installed from the file system
[21:58] <soaliensoviral> tadhg, might it be worth chilling out for a few days and installing the latest release?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: use software centre like all other packages
[21:59] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, its not in there i compiled it
[21:59] <soaliensoviral> hiexpo, so did you do any installation command where you had to give the root password?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: ah, then you should recompile it and make a deb file, you can then uninstall the deb
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> soaliensoviral: there is no root password :)
[22:00] <soaliensoviral> ActionParsnip, yeah whatever, the password for admin privileges
[22:00] <gogeta> hiexpo: if you still have the compiled source you can do make uninstall to remove it then make a deb
[22:00] <hiexpo> yes i did
[22:00] <sprung> ActionParsnip, i was looking for your answer
[22:00] <sprung> ActionParsnip, regarding Ubuntu Tweaks
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> sprung: never used it
[22:01] <sprung> ActionParsnip, i want to know if it's ok to suggest it
[22:01] <hiexpo> ok let me see
[22:01] <tadhg> ActionParsnip: It says 01.00.0 VGA compatible controller: SIlicon Integrated Systems [SIS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[22:01] <Tao> I have a network connection problem. While I do have the ethernet cable connected to the computer, it doesn't show up and the computer says that the connection is inactive. I've tried restarting and disconnecting and reconnecting the cable, both to no avail. Help, please?
[22:01] <sprung> ActionParsnip, oh its pretty cool but it DOES offer newer non-ubuntu supported packages of various things
[22:01] <ubuntu_mad> Can someone look at this update error http://pastebin.com/fPiebBrF
[22:01] <tadhg> Thanks in advance btw dude I owe you
[22:01] <radar3d> is there a batch file renaming program for Ubuntu???
[22:01] <sprung> ActionParsnip, so this is something i want to be clear on
[22:01] <gogeta> hiexpo: i always used checkinstal to make my debs fourm a source compile
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> sprung: its not on the repo so i'd go with no
[22:02] <brontosaurusrexw> radar3d: i use Thunar sometimes
[22:02] <sprung> ActionParsnip, ok just making sure.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> sprung: i'd ask an op though
[22:02] <radar3d> is that in the repository?
[22:02] <sprung> ActionParsnip, i thought you were one
[22:02] <brontosaurusrexw> should be
[22:02] <radar3d> checking
[22:02] <sprung> ActionParsnip, i disagree with the way ops don't keep themselves opped in here
[22:03] <Jordan_U> tadhg: If there is any possability to install a different GPU you should, SIS cards are by far the worst WRT linux support.
[22:03] <soaliensoviral> Tao, unplug ethernet and enter "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" in a  terminal and hit return. Then plug in ethernet and post the kernel messages that result.
[22:03] <radar3d> brontosaurusrexw: yep it is
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> sprung: nar just a reg
[22:03] <radar3d> brontosaurusrexw: does it add ( ) to the filnames or can you choose???
[22:03] <Jordan_U> sprung: It's actually the recommended way to do things on freenode. It's supposed to keep the tention down.
[22:03] <sprung> ActionParsnip, btw last year once and the year before about twice you may have saved my job
[22:03] <brontosaurusrexw> radar3d: what do you mean?
[22:03] <tadhg> Jordan U: Ya the laptop is shit :) but Im sure one of you geniuses will be able to sort me!
[22:04] <sprung> ActionParsnip, and i became a better sysadmin from your advice
[22:04] <hiexpo> gogeta, i installed it as a .sh file
[22:04] <radar3d> windows when you renam a bunch of files it adds (1), (2), (3), etc to the end of the file name
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> sprung: happy to help duder, i'm sure you'll help others too. makes the world go around :D
[22:04] <gogeta> hiexpo: oh so its noot a system instal jusr a sh
[22:05] <gogeta> just
[22:05] <hiexpo> gogeta, yes
[22:05] <gogeta> hiexpo: normaly you run those from the term
[22:05] <gogeta> sh file
[22:05] <sprung> ActionParsnip, well and not to bring this too offtopic but i used to run a web hosting company's IT ops, and i was it, i was the go to guy for all kinds of various environments. now i get paid a lot more to do a lot less with another company
[22:05] <hiexpo> gogeta, i did
[22:06] <sprung> ActionParsnip, and with that thanks for your help when i needed it
[22:06] <gogeta> hiexpo: did you run make as su
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> sprung: anytime dude, well when i'm connected
[22:06] <gogeta> hiexpo: that can mess things up
[22:06] <hiexpo> gogeta, no make
[22:07] <radar3d> awesome optional brontosaurusrexw
[22:07] <mozir> I need to crush my installation, what is the best way to do so?
[22:07] <mozir> "rm -rf /" doesn't work
[22:07] <Tao> soaliensoviral: Its a bit much to put on here, but I see a one thing that has "Network Manager" in it
[22:07] <gogeta> mozir: reformat
[22:07] <hiexpo> let me run itand see
[22:07] <Jordan_U> mozir: Please don't mention such commands here, for any reason.
[22:07] <Salo> hi
[22:08] <Salo> need help with a non-booting ubuntu computer
[22:08] <Salo> anyone?
[22:09] <red2kic> mozir: DBAN.
[22:09] <mozir> red2kic: I don't know that
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> !details | Salo
[22:09] <Salo> ok
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> mozir: boot to livecd and manipulate your partitions there
[22:10] <Jordan_U> sprung: First thing I would try is to see if you can get away with just using VESA and still have full resolution. I think the easiest way to test that, if you are using 9.10 with grub2, is to reboot holding shift to get to the grub menu then press "c" to get theo the grub shell, then run "vbeinfo". But then again I'm a grub person :)
[22:10] <soaliensoviral> Tao, can you paste it at pastebin or somewhere
[22:10] <tadhg> It says 01.00.0 VGA compatible controller: SIlicon Integrated Systems [SIS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[22:11] <Tao> soaliensoviral: The whole thing? Or just the "Network Manager" thing
[22:11] <Jordan_U> tadhg: That last comment was meant for you. Sorry sprung.
[22:12] <soaliensoviral> Tao, all the lines that resulted when you plugged in the ethernet
[22:12] <Tao> soaliensoviral: I don't know how to transfer it over to this computer
[22:12] <axisys> !audio
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: http://www.it-netsoc.ie/forum/index.php?topic=5616.0;wap2   has an xorg.conf file you can use
[22:13] <thunter> i just upgraded to lucid. can someone tell me how to fix this error? http://pastebin.com/Dg60Pnkw
[22:13] <Salo> i was running the latest 10.someting beta version. worked fine, then i started some system updates, but someone closed the notebook and interrupted it. now i doesn.t boot and starts texting tons of messages at a rate i can't even read, says something about some "checks that can't be made", everything non-graphical. the thing is i don't have a cd drive, and need a solution that doesn't kill my data on hd.
[22:13] <soaliensoviral> Tao, oh i see.
[22:14] <soaliensoviral> Tao, so when you boot the computer up with the ethernet plugged in, it doesn't work?
[22:14] <Tao> Nope
[22:14] <soaliensoviral> wireless?
[22:14] <Tao> Haven't tried it
[22:14] <Tao> Dunno how to set it up
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | thunter
[22:14] <soaliensoviral> do you have a network manager icon in your panel?
[22:15] <red2kic> Salo: Got external hard drive? Or another computer? I imagine you'd want to make a backup to ensure you got all of your data then just install ubuntu again. It's a bad thing to interrupt during upgrading transition.
[22:15] <Ddorda> is there such an option to run a virtual keyboard on GDM?
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> Salo, /join #ubuntu+1
[22:15] <cjay554> you can use accessibility icon in the login screen Ddorda
[22:15] <soaliensoviral> Tao: I mean the panel applet that shows the connection and wireless strength, and which you can click on to configure connectioons
[22:16] <Ddorda> cjay554: thanks :)
[22:16] <cjay554> no prob =)
[22:16] <Salo> i got my other computer but it's a mac
[22:16] <soaliensoviral> Tao, and what did it say about "Network Manager" in those kernel messages?
[22:17] <Tao> soaliensoviral: I don't have the Network Manager icon on my panel
[22:17] <Salo> question is: is there any quick solution, like system restore "built-in" or something, that i can access through command line?
[22:17] <Tao> soaliensoviral: Let me copy it down on a sheet of paper
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> Salo, come to #ubuntu+1
[22:17] <soaliensoviral> Tao, OK you should add it.Right click on panel and click "Add to panel"
[22:17] <nimrod10> Salo, try to boot from a usb stick with ubuntu live distro
[22:18] <nimrod10> move your data , and then reinstall
[22:18] <tadhg> jordan U sorry im such a noob i dont understand if i have grub 2 or how to get to grub shell
[22:18] <coz_> tadhg,  I believe when grub menu appears you hit the shift button but I may be wrong
[22:18] <coz_> about the button i mean
[22:18] <coz_> maybe its esc
[22:19] <tadhg> coz thanks for your patience
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> coz_: yeah hold the shift key down
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> coz_, in Karmic and above it's Shift correct
[22:19] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  thanks I was a bit confused there :)
[22:19] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  thanks also :)
[22:20] <Jordan_U> tadhg: If you installed Ubuntu 9.10 (rather than upgrading from an earlier version of Ubuntu), then you have grub2.
[22:21] <mandrew> hej aj
[22:21] <soaliensoviral> Tao, first check if network manager is running: do
[22:21] <soaliensoviral> ps -u `whoami` | grep nm
[22:21] <aj-> hej
[22:21] <soaliensoviral> Tao, you should get something like
[22:21] <soaliensoviral> 2029 ?        00:00:11 nm-applet
[22:21] <rabeak> Hi !
[22:22] <rabeak> Can someone help with aireplay-ng under ubuntu 9.04 ?
[22:22] <rabeak> I would really appreciate
[22:22] <Tao> soaliensoviral: Apr 25 16:36:00 hunter kernel: [   28.346423] type:1505 audit(1272227759.817:14) operation="profile_replace" pid=853 name=/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action
[22:22] <Tao> Thats what it said
[22:23] <mandrew> aj inte ofta man ser att någon är svensk på namn bytena lol
[22:23] <root____> :D
[22:23] <tadhg> jordan u thanks buddy - ran "vbeinfo" lots of things on screen whats next?
[22:23] <root____> Im using Ubuntu root console
[22:23] <root____> :D
[22:23] <root____> This is awesome
[22:24] <soaliensoviral> Tao: that looks OK to me
[22:24] <aj-> Hello all. I need some help. Grub got screwed up when I tried to upgrade to lucid. now I cant boot into ubuntu at all. Instead I get a grub error that says symbol grub_puts_ not found. How can I reinstall grub to the mbr? all I got is this 5 year old knoppix-cd.
[22:24] <Izinucs> Why does mtop pull in a ton of dependancies including mysql?
[22:24] <llutz> root____: and really stupid to irc with
[22:24] <aj-> mandrew :)
[22:24] <root____> Why?
[22:24] <sebsebseb> !lucid | aj-
[22:24] <soaliensoviral> Tao, so now you need to (a) make sure network manager is running and (b) get the nm-applet thing in your panel
[22:24] <Oer> rabeak, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/aireplay-ng.1.html
[22:24] <root____> Why is it stupid?
[22:24] <ikonia> !info irssi
[22:25] <root____> !info irssi
[22:25] <mandrew> aj har duinstallerat home mappen på en separat partion?
[22:25] <root____> Hm..
[22:25] <ikonia> root____: it puts you at risk to compromise, however it's your choice
[22:25] <llutz> root____: 1st working as root is generally stupid 2nd using insecure things like irc is stupid^x
[22:25] <soaliensoviral> Tao, you can try "nm-applet &" in  a terminal. can't hurt.
[22:25] <root____> Your are right.
[22:25] <aj-> mandrew nae
[22:25] <mandrew> ok
[22:25] <root____> Good point, I should not be in root then.
[22:25] <root____> :>
[22:25] <root____> I'll be back.
[22:25] <mandrew> kommer du in i OSet?
[22:26] <litropy> Could someone please direct me to the chan for UNR?
[22:26] <sebsebseb> !se | aj- mandrew
[22:26] <litropy> !UNR
[22:26] <litropy> ah
[22:26] <rabeak> i'm not newbie with this tool
[22:26] <mandrew> aj is a swed so im talking to him in swedish is that a prob?
[22:27] <adac> Is there a limit on how many users I can create on a system?
[22:27] <litropy> Hi, peeps - I want netbook-launcher to show on only one of my virtual desktops. Is there a way?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> mandrew: I am half Swedish, but we still shoudn't talk Swedish in here
[22:27] <Root____>  Ok, I am out of Root now.
[22:27] <mandrew> ok
[22:27] <rabeak> it's just that i faced really subtle problem and can't figure out myself, so decided to go here to ask for help.
[22:27] <Tao> soaliensoviral: I did that command, but it said "Error: User name not found"
[22:27] <ikonia> Root____: yes, you're using the account kyle - much better
[22:27] <Root____> :)
[22:27] <Root____> Yep
[22:27] <Frenger> hey all. i just built a computer and installed ubuntu 9.10 but whenever I log in with gnome the screen freezes and the keyboard and mouse are unresponsive and I'm forced to reboot. I can do everything just fine in failsafe gnome but I'd like to figure out what's going on and how to fix it.
[22:28] <aj-> mandrew, no, all I can do is boot from cd
[22:28] <soaliensoviral> Tao, what is your username?
[22:28] <Tao> soaliensoviral: *does not exist
[22:28] <Tao> soaliensoviral: What do you mean?
[22:28] <Root____> Are you finding out what account I am using by my ident?
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> litropy, if you wait until UNE the 10.04 version - I believe that's the default behaviour, and virtual desktops are locked out by default.  No idea how to implement on Karmic however, best of luck.
[22:28] <soaliensoviral> my user name is "dan" so if I type "ps -u dan | grep nm" it works.
[22:29] <rabeak> MAYBE SOMEONE IS FAMILIAR WITH 0|0 ACK when using -0 function with aireplay-ng ???? I really know that my router is not too far away, as most of the faq points when facing similar problem.
[22:29] <mandrew> @aj ok but can you make a back up on your home folder from the cd?
[22:29] <soaliensoviral> Tao, type "whoami" at a prompt
[22:29] <tadhg> jordan u thanks buddy - ran "vbeinfo" lots of things on screen whats next?
[22:29] <kop> karmic I want to associate sounds w/ desktop events ie; window min/max and file operation start/stop . any easy way to do this ?
[22:29] <Tao> soaliensoviral: I believe my username is hunter
[22:30] <jerry_> gnome clock applet refusing to display local time, but knows about my location (this is karmic.)
[22:30] <hiexpo> gogeta,  - ok its installed in my local dir so what command do i use to delete it so i can reinstall it the right way
[22:30] <jerry_> regional settings menu nowhere to be found.
[22:30] <soaliensoviral> Tao, ps -u hunter | grep nm
[22:30] <aj-> mandrew, yes, but I dont want to reinstall everything...
[22:31] <Frenger> anyone know what might be making my system freeze in gnome right after login?
[22:31] <Oer> rabeak,  Attack modes  -0 <count>, --deauth=<count> is a part of aireplay i do not support, sorry
[22:31] <gogeta> hiexpo: well if its just a sh script deleting the file removes it
[22:31] <rabeak> OK.
[22:31] <rabeak> do not support -0
[22:31] <rabeak> same thing with aireplay-ng -9
[22:32] <rabeak> using two wireless cards
[22:32] <hiexpo> gogeta,  - yes what is the command to delete it rm rf?
[22:32] <mandrew>  AJas far as i know all your setting is in the home folder so if you delete your fist partition and reinstall your good to go
[22:32] <rabeak> aireplay-ng -9 -i rausb0(wusb54c) mon0(ath card)
[22:32] <gogeta> hiexpo: for a single file just rm filename
[22:32] <rabeak> doesn't work
[22:32] <rabeak> but ... using -i mon0(as station) rausb)
[22:32] <hiexpo> ok
[22:32] <Jordan_U> tadhg: What was the maximum resolution that it showed? Did it match the native resolution of your screen?
[22:32] <rabeak> works perfectly
[22:33] <rabeak> so what the ..?
[22:33] <brianherman_hom1> ping
[22:33] <hiexpo> gogeta,  - its a foldeer
[22:33] <aj-> mandrew, no, that wont work
[22:33] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Also, your messages will only be highlighted in my client if they start with "Jordan_U"
[22:33] <gogeta> hiexpo: rm -rf folder
[22:33] <rabeak> i KNOW that drivers ar ok
[22:33] <hiexpo> ok
[22:33] <Jordan_U> !tab | tadhg
[22:33] <rabeak> 3.0.3
[22:33] <rabeak> can you help ????
[22:33] <gogeta> hiexpo: as long as your in the same dir the folder is in
[22:34] <mandrew> @ aj ok
[22:34] <rabeak> there is one interesting thing
[22:34] <aj-> if I can just reinstall grub it would be fine, but it wont find the stage-files it needs on this knoppix-cd
[22:34] <tadhg> jordan U: Loads of numbers some are reapeated highest is 1024x768 and 1280x768
[22:34] <rabeak> when mon0 is in monitor mode
[22:34] <rabeak> noise level is 0
[22:34] <gogeta> hiexpo: or just trash it from the gui
[22:34] <rabeak> but when rausb0 is in monitor mode noise is -140 ... wtf ?
[22:34] <ikonia> rabeak: please control your language
[22:35] <litropy> ZykoticK9: I'm Lucid and netbook-launcher is on every desktop. Is there a way to change this?
[22:35] <rabeak> ikonia what do you mean ?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> !lucid > litropy
[22:35] <ikonia> rabeak: we know what "wtf" means and don't need to see it
[22:35] <gogeta> !lucid
[22:35] <rabeak> i'm auditing my own net
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> litropy, not that I know of.  Best of luck.
[22:35] <sebsebseb> gogeta: yeah I wasn't going to pm that, but ended up doing > instead of |
[22:36] <ikonia> rabeak: that doesn't mean you can use that sort of language
[22:36] <rabeak> just for knowledge.
[22:36] <rabeak> oh... sorry. ok
[22:36] <rabeak> can you help me then ?
[22:36] <ikonia> no problem
[22:36] <ikonia> rabeak: I have no idea what you're question is
[22:37] <mandrew> @ aj i cant help you here my linux knowledge is to limited
[22:37] <tadhg> Jordan_U Sorry dud dont knwo how to use IRC just saw somewhere you could get help there. Thje computer wont let me enter !tab ¦ tadhg
[22:37] <z3ros3c> sup
[22:39] <kieras> witam
[22:39] <Jordan_U> tadhg: The "!tab | tadhg" was a message by me telling the channel bot (ubottu) to give you the standard message about how to use tab to complete nicknames.
[22:39] <pure_hate> rabeak, How many channels are you going to spam with this crap?
[22:39] <kieras> mam pytanie
[22:39] <gogeta> Jordan_U: not all irc clients have tab empithy does not
[22:40] <kieras> jest tu ktos z polski
[22:40] <ikonia> !pl | kieras
[22:40] <tadhg> Jordan_U : Jesus Im actually a dunce! What would you like me to try on the computer?
[22:40] <hiexpo> gogeta,  - ok it in here /usr/local/msf
[22:40] <kieras> tak
[22:40] <kieras> pl
[22:40] <Richiie> i have a question if anyone here knows any good program to Linux so i can Decode MKV files DTS Sound -> AC3 ?
[22:40] <Richiie> for example like this one http://www.videohelp.com/tools/PopCorn_MKV_AudioConverter but its only for windows :(
[22:40] <gogeta> hiexpo: ok as long as its working for you
[22:41] <kieras> a na prwacie pogdamy
[22:41] <erUSUL> !pl
[22:41] <hiexpo> gogeta,  - no what i meant is thats where it is at and i want to remove it msf is the folder i wannadelete
[22:41] <Jordan_U> tadhg: You're not a dunce, it's understandable to be a bit confused when the first IRC channel you join also happens to be the busiest one in the world :)
[22:41] <jerry_> gnome clock applet refusing to display local time, but knows about my location (this is karmic.) Regional Settings menu nowhere to be found.
[22:41] <gogeta> Richie: well thers no best as people would quickly point out but have you tryed avidmux
[22:42] <harjot> how do i adjust the brightness of my laptop screen? I have a hotkey, but when i press it, it says brightness 0 %, no matter if i increase via hotkey or decrease
[22:42] <Sp3c1alK> How can I let an underprivileged user start a daemon via /etc/init.d ?
[22:42] <gogeta> hiexpo: rm -rf /usr/local/msf
[22:42] <gogeta> hiexpo: or go into that dir from your gui and delete it
[22:42] <tadhg> Jordan_U: thanks, I only came here because I exhausted everything else :)
[22:43] <gulp> a trullo
[22:43] <hiexpo> gogeta,  - ok and that will not delete the other folders as well right
[22:43] <gogeta> hiexpo: gui being safer if your not famler with the term
[22:43] <gogeta> hiexpo: it should
[22:43] <harjot> how do i adjust the brightness of my laptop screen? I have a hotkey, but when i press it, it says brightness 0 %, no matter if i increase via hotkey or decrease
[22:43] <gogeta> hiexpo: if you wanna be safe cd /usr/local then rm -rf msi
[22:43] <hiexpo> got cha
[22:43] <Jordan_U> tadhg: First find out what the native resolution of your laptop's screen is supposed to be. Then boot holding shift and press "c" when you see the grub menu. At the grub shell run "vbeinfo" and see if your laptop's native resolution is listed in the output.
[22:44] <gogeta> forgot the /
[22:44] <rabeak> ikonia are you still there ?
[22:44] <Flannel> gogeta, hiexpo: you almost never need the -f
[22:44] <gogeta> Flannel: for a folder he would
[22:45] <gogeta> Flannel: unless he whants annoying messages for eatch file
[22:45] <ikonia> rabeak: yes
[22:45] <tadhg> Jordan_U: How could i find the native resolution? My guess is its 1024x768
[22:45] <Flannel> gogeta: no
[22:46] <rabeak> ikonia: here is my problem. I have two wireless adapters one is PCI(atheros) works perfectly fine and other is wusb54 with rt73 drivers
[22:46] <gogeta> Flannel: try it i have just usinf r it will ask for eatch file
[22:46] <Flannel> gogeta: Try it yourself, make up a directory with some stuff in it, and rm -r scratch-directory
[22:46] <Flannel> gogeta: I just did to verify
[22:46] <rabeak> i can perform everything with ath(wlan0) interface
[22:47] <rabeak> and rausb0(wusb54gc) acts completly strange
[22:47] <gogeta> Flannel: rather just use -rf then all that
[22:47] <gogeta> lol
[22:47] <rabeak> iwconfig rausb0 shows that noise level is -143
[22:47] <rabeak> aireplay-ng -9 -i mon0 rausb0 WORKS OK
[22:47] <Flannel> gogeta: -f will hide problems from you, there's really no need to use it on a regular basis
[22:47] <biff_>  #lubuntu
[22:47] <rabeak> but the other way : aireplay-ng -9 -i rausb0 mon0
[22:47] <rabeak> fails at everything
[22:47] <gogeta> Flannel: well i recmonded gui if he wasent good with the term
[22:48] <Jordan_U> tadhg: You can look up the specs for your laptop online but if you think it's 1024x768 you're probably right.
[22:48] <rabeak> i set these two at the same channel, no hopping
[22:48] <Losha> gogeta: I'm with Flannel on this one, drop the -f for routine use....
[22:48] <rabeak> airodump works perfectly fine
[22:48] <Flannel> gogeta: "good with the terminal" has nothing to do with hiding potentially important information for no gain
[22:48] <rabeak> but with aireplay-ng CANT get any replays
[22:48] <ikonia> rabeak: why are you chaging the syntax of the commands
[22:48] <tadhg> Jordan_U: cool! ok so what next - once again i really appreciate your time when im prob doing your head in
[22:49] <ikonia> rabeak> aireplay-ng -9 -i mon0 rausb0 WORKS OK (ok - great so why are you then doing  aireplay-ng -9 -i rausb0 mon0) ???
[22:49] <rabeak> trying to test rausb0 as AP
[22:49] <rabeak> and it does not work correctly
[22:49] <ikonia> rabeak: have you set it up asn an ap ?
[22:49] <hiexpo> gogeta, ok got it thanks
[22:49] <gogeta> Flannel: well -rf has been rutene for a long time and i never herd of systems blowing up due to it
[22:49] <rabeak> asn an ap ? what ? :)
[22:49] <gogeta> not just with me
[22:50] <biff_> omg i love lubuntu 10.4 beta 3!  so refined!  : D  you gotta try it now!
[22:50] <ikonia> rabeak: if you want a card to act as an access point, you have to set it up as one
[22:50] <Flannel> gogeta: No reason to proliferate bad practices
[22:50] <ikonia> biff_: we are well aware of what's going on with ubuntu
[22:50] <Jordan_U> tadhg: If the resolution shows up then we'll change some small settings and hopefully get full resolution with the generic "vesa" drivers. If the resolution doesn't show up then we'll have to open up the can of worms that is the sis driver.
[22:50] <aj-> mandrew, tack for hjalpen. hare...
[22:50] <rabeak> no attack types work with RAUSB0 interface !
[22:50] <tadhg> so will
[22:51] <hiexpo> Flannel, i wanted the command to remove the folder i asked for it
[22:51] <rabeak> thats why i'm trying -9 argument ;)
[22:51] <rabeak> mon0 works fine
[22:51] <ikonia> rabeak: why is that a bad thing ?
[22:51] <tadhg> Jordan_U: so will i leave the shell and check the display settings to see if i have other options?
[22:51] <rabeak> oh...
[22:51] <rabeak> because i can't go deeper
[22:51] <Flannel> hiexpo: rm -r will do that, you don't need the -f
[22:52] <ikonia> rabeak: so it's not responding to an attack, that's a good thing
[22:52] <gogeta> Flannel: i think most use it just being its a shorter command and as long as its not a system its not critical
[22:52] <hiexpo> ya i used rm -rf
[22:52] <gogeta> hiexpo: thats fine
[22:52] <rabeak> it does not respond to anything :)
[22:52] <rabeak> it captures frames from my router
[22:52] <ikonia> rabeak: maybe because the tool you're using is not intended for cards that use a different kernel module
[22:52] <Jordan_U> tadhg: No, you will leave the shell and modify settings in the text files /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[22:52] <rabeak> but can't send anything
[22:53] <gogeta> hiexpo: flannels is the safer approch
[22:53] <gogeta> hiexpo: and gui being the safest
[22:53] <rabeak> Can you suggest something ?
[22:53] <tadhg> Jordan_U: cool ok so step by step how do i do that?
[22:53] <ikonia> rabeak: what are you actually trying to do ?
[22:53] <ikonia> rabeak: as in what do you want to achieve ?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> tadhg: I'd rather wait untill you've confirmed that the resolution shows up, because if it doesn't then you'll need different instructions.
[22:54] <hiexpo> yes i know i just wanted to make sure i was doing it right so i did not goof it ya know i knew the command before but just wanted to make sure it was right
[22:54] <Flannel> gogeta: it's not a shorter command, it's one extra character, how is it shorter?
[22:55] <rabeak> ikonia, trying to deauth myself :))
[22:55] <tadhg> Jordan_U: sorry what would you like me to do
[22:55] <rabeak> to capture handshake
[22:55] <ikonia> rabeak: is it possible that your card is not open to the exploit your trying to run (in which case that's a good thing)
[22:56] <Jordan_U> gogeta: You are probably used to distributions like Red Hat Linux that errantly alias rm to rm -i thinking it will help users when in reality it just promotes bad practices like always using -f and being bitten when on a system that doesn't have such an alias.
[22:56] <rabeak> how that can be ? :)
[22:56] <steve__> can anyone help me, I'm trying to install a printer connected to my desktop and keep on getting an error message that it is not enabled
[22:56] <rabeak> THAT CARD even can't SEND anything
[22:57] <rabeak> it receives all the frames around
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> steve__: what printer make and model?
[22:57] <ikonia> rabeak: is the card working ?
[22:57] <rabeak> but ceases to send any packets !
[22:57] <rabeak> yeah :)
[22:57] <rabeak> drivers loaded.
[22:57] <ikonia> rabeak: ok - so it IS sending
[22:57] <steve__> HP Laserjet 4000
[22:57] <rabeak> ifconfig rausb0 up
[22:57] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Boot holding shift and press "c" when you see the grub menu. At the grub shell run "vbeinfo" and see if your laptop's native resolution is listed in the output.
[22:57] <rabeak> iwconfig rausb0 shows the interface
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> steve__: grab the latest HPLIP and install it
[22:57] <ikonia> rabeak: however it's possible the tool you're using is not compatible with the card kernel modules, not all wirless drivers have the same level of support
[22:57] <rabeak> can set it to monitor mode and everything else...
[22:57] <steve__> where do I get that
[22:57] <tadhg> Jordan_U: yes what I imagine is the native is there, yes
[22:58] <ikonia> rabeak: ifconfig up doesn't man the card is working, it means the card has a kernel module loaded for it
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> steve__: use websearches, trust me you'll find it
[22:58] <ikonia> rabeak: is it on a network and working
[22:58] <rabeak> not at all.
[22:58] <steve__> great thanks!!!
[22:58] <bp0> when i make a new gnome panel it causes some weird problems, also move the bottom panel to the right and it has some graphical probglems
[22:58] <ikonia> rabeak: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[22:58] <rabeak> 9.04
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> steve__: you'll need to mark it as executable and run it in terminal as user (not sudo)
[22:58] <ikonia> rabeak: ok - so if it's not on a network, it's not going to wokr ?
[22:58] <olvap> i use searchlogic. table has_many users. when i do a search, Table.search.user_id_like... ruby made a inner join betewn table and user. How could i make a left join?
[22:58] <rabeak> what are you asking ?
[22:58] <ikonia> olvap: try in #mysql
[22:59] <ikonia> rabeak: I'm not asking anything, however if your card is not on a network, how do you expect it to send data ?
[22:59] <cbrookins> Does anyone happen to know what version of Samba is included in 10.04 server?
[22:59] <ikonia> cbrookins: join #ubuntu+1 and ask
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | cbrookins
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> cbrookins: but it uses 3.4.7
[23:00] <rabeak> ikonia, in monitor mode ?
[23:00] <kop> cbrookins, a broken one ? :D
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> cbrookins: lucid is offtopic here though
[23:00] <ikonia> rabeak: still needs to be on a network
[23:00] <cbrookins> sorry about that.  thanks for your help
[23:00] <rabeak> no need i think :)
[23:00] <clocking> Hi
[23:00] <ikonia> rabeak: and as I said the tool you're using may not be compatible with that kernel module
[23:00] <rabeak> but i know people are using that tool on the same kernel module
[23:00] <gogeta> Jordan_U: what abought redhat
[23:01] <rabeak> Noise level : -143....
[23:01] <rabeak> when i type iwconfig rausb0
[23:01] <steve__> sorry, how do I mark it as executable
[23:01] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Ok, then run "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" to edit /etc/default/grub. There should be a line like "#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480" you want to remove the '#' from the beginning of the line and change the "640x480" to "1024x768". So the end result would be a line containing "GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768".
[23:01] <switchgirl> hi i have an image that i'm doing red eye removal on, it's picking up the lips and thinks they are red eye what can i do? in gimp
[23:01] <rabeak> and noise level on the other device(athers mon0)
[23:01] <rabeak> is 0 when NOT connected
[23:02] <ikonia> rabeak: ok - so it is connected to a network
[23:02] <Jordan_U> gogeta: What do you mean?
[23:02] <rabeak> so rausb0 puts out -143 noise level not connected and mon0 puts out 0
[23:02] <axel_foley> how to update /proc/partitions. /proc/partitions doesnt contains all partitions showed by fdisk -l
[23:02] <rabeak> why it's so different ?
[23:02] <rabeak> no it's not connected to any network.
[23:02] <ikonia> rabeak: because they are differnt cards using different kernel modules
[23:02] <ikonia> rabeak: they behave in differnt ways
[23:03] <gogeta> Jordan_U: i used to run redhat untill that fedora garbage
[23:03] <Jordan_U> gogeta: If you need to use Red Hat I would personally recommend you remove their alias.
[23:03] <rabeak> can you direct me to some solution ? :}
[23:04] <steve__> ActionParsnip how do I do that?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> steve__: chmod +x file; ./file
[23:04] <gogeta> Jordan_U: well i cant help but be oldschool and not my fault debain thinks they gotta change the command sets every other dstro
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> steve__: replace file with the actual filename
[23:04] <steve__> Thanks somuch
[23:05] <red2kic> Hello, could somebody paste the screenshot of CompizConfig Setting Manager (those who installed and use it)... For PUT plugin (settings). Thanks?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> steve__: you will need to navigate the terminal to the location of the file too
[23:05] <ikonia> rabeak just search around for more wireless tools
[23:05] <Jordan_U> gogeta: It's not debian changing anything, debian keeps the default. Red Hat adds a non standard alias.
[23:05] <tadhg> Jordan_U: "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" i get error: unknown command 'gksudo'
[23:05] <rabeak> you think that might be due aireplay-ng tool ?
[23:06] <ikonia> in my opinion, from what you're said so far, yes
[23:06] <rabeak> not due drivers, bad usb wireless adapter configuration ?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: can you run: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: if you use kde then change gksudo for kdesu
[23:07] <rabeak> what other tools can perform the same functions as aircrack package ?
[23:07] <sinisterstuf> how do you ask a program politely to quit at a certain time?
[23:07] <rabeak> killall -v name
[23:07] <rabeak> pkill name
[23:07] <rabeak> ?
[23:07] <sinisterstuf> by politely i mean not forcing it
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> sinisterstuf: use the 'at' command
[23:07] <rabeak> =]
[23:07] <gogeta> Jordan_U: isnt it gksu
[23:07] <Jordan_U> tadhg: You need to run that comm from Applications > Accessories > Terminal in the booted system. Not the grub shell. (sorry I should have made that more clear)
[23:07] <tadhg> ActionParsnip: I am in the core now do i try those in terminal or core?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: gksudo is a symlink to gksu
[23:07] <rabeak> ikonia?
[23:07] <tadhg> Jordan_U: thanks man
[23:08] <ikonia> rabeak: what ?#
[23:08] <Jordan_U> tadhg: You're welcome.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: whats core?
[23:08] <rabeak> what other tools can perform the same functions as aircrack package ?
[23:08] <red2kic> Hello, could somebody paste the screenshot of CompizConfig Setting Manager (those who installed and use it)... For PUT plugin (settings). Thanks?
[23:08] <ikonia> I've no idea, hence why I said have a look around
[23:08] <gogeta> rabeak: thers a nice gui for aircrack called wepcrask
[23:09] <gogeta> wepcrack
[23:09] <ikonia> rabeak: to be honest, I've no idea why you are trying to crack your own network, and I'm not to comfortable talking about it
[23:09] <sinisterstuf> ActionParsnip: sorry I haven't done much controlling apps from the terminal but what I'm trying to do is to ask transmission to save and quit at a set time
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: you launch the commands from terminal
[23:09] <gogeta> rabeak: just goole it
[23:09] <gogeta> google
[23:09] <hellyeah_> anathema empty
[23:09] <rabeak> cowpatty ? kismet ? wireshark ?
[23:09] <rabeak> yeah i'm familiar with these
[23:10] <zenwryly> uit
[23:10] <red2kic> sinisterstuf: Use transmission daemon? :o
[23:10] <rabeak> but i think problem is somewhere else...
[23:10] <yolanda> messeger live
[23:10] <red2kic> sinisterstuf: Otherwise, if transmission-gtk does not have a command to exit politely. Kill it will do.
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> sinisterstuf: you can schedule using at to kill the process using HUP
[23:10] <gogeta> rabeak: well i got sick of all those command and found wepcrack gui it relly worked well
[23:10] <rabeak> about 150+ h trying to solve problem
[23:10] <Cornwall> sinisterstuf: Worst case scenario, you could set a crontab that will kill transmission
[23:11] <rabeak> problem is not gui interface......
[23:11] <rabeak> i can type and read
[23:11] <rabeak> i'm familiar with schemes
[23:11] <steve__> I keep on getting no such file or directory
[23:11] <gogeta> rabeak: well wepcrack kicks the card to monoter mode and sstuff for you
[23:11] <rabeak> but can't figure out why that device is ...
[23:12] <WebDawg> I thought kismet was the best.
[23:12] <rabeak> It can be done mannualy faster than opening any gui and clicking buttons...
[23:12] <jrib> steve__: what are you trying to accomplish?
[23:12] <rabeak> problem is not wep cracking
[23:12] <sinisterstuf> ActionParsnip, red2kic: the problem is i'm afraid if i kill it it won't save the progress, like when i just shutdown without closing it. how can i find out commands for transmission?
[23:12] <gogeta> rabeak: naa its a powerfull ui
[23:12] <tadhg> Jordan_U: done! do i save? or what would you like me to do next
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> steve__: if you type: ls   can you see the filename?
[23:12] <rabeak> problem is that client(me) can't send any data from adapter
[23:12] <tadhg> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help im getting there :)
[23:13] <rabeak> just receiving ...
[23:13] <steve__> get a printer on my desktop to take stuff from my laptop
[23:13] <steve__> ls
[23:13] <imanc> I am confused - I am trying to add an existing user to a group with sudo useradd -G user group
[23:13] <red2kic> sinisterstuf: "transmission --help" or "man transmission"
[23:13] <gogeta> raidghost: wepcrack is just the name lol it does all aircracks
[23:13] <jrib> !who | steve__
[23:13] <imanc> hm
[23:13] <rabeak> CAN MONITOR pretty well airodump-ng --channel x ...
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: so what is this "core" you were on about?
[23:13] <rabeak> no hopping nothing
[23:13] <sinisterstuf> red2kic: thanks
[23:13] <rabeak> but that device just cant send any data
[23:13] <red2kic> sinisterstuf: I think it'll be saved. You could do a small test.
[23:13] <imanc> it just says "users already exists"
[23:13] <rabeak> ant noise level is insane
[23:13] <Kentrel> Hey guys, are there any power saving disadvantages to using a realtime or low latency kernel? Does the fact that the clock is ticking at 1000 times a second rather than 250 decrease the life of the CPU at all?
[23:13] <rabeak> so can't figure out
[23:13] <rabeak> whats wrong
[23:13] <jrib> rabeak: try to address the person you are speaking to and not use enter to break up your thoughts
[23:13] <speart> i popped the 'Diamond Xtreme Sound 5.1' card into my pc running ubuntu 9.10 and im hearing subtle super-slow and quiet versions of sound out of my speakers, do i just need another driver?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> steve__: please type the name of the person you are addressing
[23:14] <gogeta> rabeak: that means your card may not have the aircrack driver to inject
[23:14] <rabeak> ok. sorry
[23:14] <tadhg> ActionParsnip: i dunno if i was using right term, press shift when grub is loading then press "c"
[23:14] <gogeta> rabeak: my card can do it with the stock driver others cant
[23:14] <sinisterstuf> red2kic: i've been using the shutdown command to turn off my pc at 5am (when free internet stops) but when i turn it on in the morning the progress has been lost somehow. when it exits nicely it usualy says sending something to tracker, i don't remember what.
[23:15] <steve__> [ActionParsnip]: no I can't see the filename
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: not done that, i'll try it next reboot
[23:15] <red2kic> sinisterstuf: Stats.
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> steve__: then you need to change folder, are you using firefox and dos it still download (stupidly) tothe desktop?
[23:15] <sinisterstuf> red2kic: exactly
[23:15] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Yes, save. Then run "gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom"
[23:16] <steve__> ActionParsnip: yes
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> steve__: then run: cd ~/Desktop
[23:16] <steve__> cd ~/Desktop
[23:16] <iroquois> hello
[23:16] <speart> has anyone had their sound card produce slowed down and quiet sound and ever fixed it?
[23:16] <red2kic> sinisterstuf: I'd suggest you to install transmission-daemon. That way, you can quit gracefully.  Also, I noticed there are "transmission --paused" ; That'd work just same as quit, I suppose?
[23:16] <imanc> hey guys - any ideas how to add a user to a group?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> steve__: then run: chmod +x filename    use tab to complete the filename after typing a few of the characters (case sensitive)
[23:17] <Jordan_U> tadhg: In this file you want to add a single line to the end of the file containing "set gfxpayload=keep" (without the quotes). Then save.
[23:17] <imanc> sudo useradd -G group user seems not to work :(
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> steve__: you really should learn the terminal basics, its really useful
[23:17] <pmbasehore> quick question on 9.10 nbr
[23:17] <sinisterstuf> red2kic: but would --paused work if the app is already running?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> pmbasehore: ask away
[23:17] <zaxonspox> imanc tryed adduser and rest the same?
[23:17] <pmbasehore> i've tried to search on the forums and google, no luck
[23:17] <imanc> hmm
[23:17] <tadhg> Jordan_U: A blank file has opened called "custom (/etc/grub.d/40) - gedit"
[23:18] <imanc> zaxonspox:  trying now. Thanks.
[23:18] <pmbasehore> im trying to set the "home" button on my eee 1000 to show the desktop
[23:18] <steve__> Action Parsnip really rusty, its been a long time since using linux
[23:18] <zaxonspox> imanc i have also got problems, while cmd's looks like the same
[23:18] <pmbasehore> but, 9.10 won't let me use it since it sees it as "mod3" instead of a separate key like 9.4 did
[23:18] <red2kic> Hello, could somebody paste the screenshot of CompizConfig Setting Manager (those who installed and use it)... For PUT plugin (settings). Thanks?
[23:18] <imanc> zaxonspox:  nah, no dice
[23:19] <pmbasehore> any ideas?
[23:19] <tadhg> Jordan_U: will I enter the text you asked if there is no other text present?
[23:19] <speart> imanc: try lowercase -g ?
[23:19] <imanc> OK
[23:19] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Close that (and the other file "custom" that I assume was also opened). You accidentily put a space rather than an underscore. run "gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom" and be sure to use an underscore ("_")
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: i'd ask in #compiz
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> tadhg: use tab to autocomplete Jordan_U 's command ;)
[23:20] <steve__> ActionParsnip: Thank You, that has started installing the package, thanks again!
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> steve__: awesome
[23:21] <speart> where would i go to configure audio in the terminal
[23:21] <imanc> nah, still busted :(
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> steve__: you will be prompted for your sudo password, reboot and the printer will be fine#
[23:21] <timyrro>  :)
[23:21] <speart> imanc: bummer, i know -G and -g are different
[23:21] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: I'm looking for those using Karmic. Looking for somebody volunteering to post a screenshot. The setting+layout looks different on +1
[23:22] <Browsing> if i use unetbootin to install a distro on a usb drive, will it remove the existing files from my usb drive?
[23:22] <zaxonspox> imanc do you get error, or what?
[23:22] <pmbasehore> Browsing: yes, it will reformat your usb drive
[23:22] <imanc> speart: yep.  Tbh I am using v10 of Ubuntu and it's doing really weird things.
[23:22] <imanc> zaxonspox:  I have done it now with adduser user group
[23:22] <gulp> ciao
[23:23] <imanc> but it was saying "user myuser already exists"
[23:23] <pmbasehore> anyone have any ideas about the home button in nbr?
[23:23] <imanc> as if it wasn't picking up the -g or -G setting
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: some users in #compiz will be running karmic
[23:23] <tadhg> Jordan_U: it says "#!bin/sh exec tail -n +3 $0 #This file provides an easy way to add custom entries. Simply type the # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change # the 'exec' line above."
[23:23] <tadhg> Jordan_U: Do you want me to put the text you asked in below this text?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Yes.
[23:25] <tadhg> Jordan_U: Done! What next good sir?
[23:25] <speart> where's a good place to find various audio drivers for ubuntu online?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> tadhg: run "sudo update-grub" then reboot and hopefully you'll have full resolution.
[23:27] <Arkangel> hola puede alguien ayudar,e
[23:27] <tadhg> Jordan_U: reboot by clicking my username in the top right? and selecting restart?
[23:28] <dragonneus> does anyone know where I can find information on setting up a usb touchscreen monitor on ubuntu 9.10 NBR?
[23:29] <dragonneus> any pointers are welcome
[23:30] <pmbasehore> dragonneus: most linux-compatible touchscreens show up as a usb mouse to the system
[23:30] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Yes.
[23:31] <tadhg> Jordan_U: no change unfortunately
[23:32] <zaxonspox> imanc: are you still there?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Ok, if you hold shift during boot is the boot menu now full resolution?
[23:32] <submesa> If i installed the server edition and installed ubuntu-desktop, can i get the boot "splash" screen the same as the desktop variant of ubuntu?
[23:33] <dragonneus> its a mimo 710s touchscreen 7"
[23:33] <tadhg> Jordan_U: Yes it looks great! Some progress!
[23:33] <dragonneus> and it shows as Bus 001 Device 009: ID 1ac7:0001
[23:33] <dragonneus> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 17e9:401a Newnham Research
[23:33] <dragonneus> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub
[23:33] <dragonneus> when I plu in lsusb
[23:33] <FloodBot1> dragonneus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <Bash23> hey guys
[23:33] <dragonneus> ok sorry
[23:33] <Bash23> does anyone know how I can change my user id in oindentd:?
[23:34] <zaxonspox>  imanc: sudo adduser user group
[23:34] <jikuty> how easy is it to update the Release Candidate to the final release once it's out?
[23:34] <Typos_King> oindentd?
[23:34] <Bash23> oindentd
[23:34] <Bash23> yes
[23:34] <Typos_King> oooooook, dunno then :)
[23:34] <dragonneus> is there a way to install/use a usb touchscreen in ubuntu 9.10?
[23:34] <imanc> zaxonspox:  cheers.  That worked fine.
[23:35] <augustl> I installed ubuntu on my system. It converted my MBR to a GPT. Can I revert that?
[23:36] <pmbasehore> so, no one knows how to solve my keyboard shortcut issue?
[23:36] <Bash23> no one  knows how to change the user name in oidentd?
[23:36] <mede> hi, any help or advice to learn phyton
[23:36] <ikonia> mede: join #python
[23:36] <zaxonspox> augustl yes, by forating whole drive
[23:36] <Bash23> mede head over to #python
[23:36] <maco> mede: first step: put the h in the right spot :P
[23:36] <augustl> zaxonspox: ugh, ok
[23:36] <Bash23> you'll need to register first though .
[23:36] <A_show> #python
[23:37] <augustl> I wish Ubuntu told me beforehand >< oh well
[23:37] <zaxonspox> augustl GPT/MBR are partition schemas, that is only way
[23:37] <augustl> it was able to go MBR => GPT though, odd that it can't go the other way
[23:38] <mede> ok up! thanks!
[23:38] <zaxonspox> augustl: beacuse the whole drive has changed its structure
[23:38] <Spasysheep> is there any way to use a scanner unsupported by SANE in ubuntu?
[23:38] <Bash23> anyone know?
[23:38] <zaxonspox> augustl: but why back to MBR? GPT nod good?
[23:38] <Bash23> does anyone know how I can change my user id in oindentd:?
[23:38] <Losha> Bash23: I don't know the first thing about oidentd, but google turned up this: http://linuxreviews.org/man/oidentd.conf/
[23:38] <augustl> zaxonspox: windows doesn't support GPT
[23:38] <gogeta> Spasysheep: try looking up your scanner model and linux maybe thers a driver
[23:39] <dragonneus> anyone know how to install usb touchscreen monitor in ubuntu 9.10 NBR? any leads where I can find info?
[23:39] <zaxonspox> augustl: which windows? XP does not, the newer does
[23:39] <Spasysheep> gogeta: I have, i just seem to get endless irritating freeware sites trying to make me download viruses >.<
[23:39] <Losha> Spasysheep: xsane supports most sane compatible scanners I think....
[23:39] <tadhg> Jordan_U: Yes it looks great! Some progress!
[23:39] <ikonia> xsane is just a front end for sane
[23:39] <zaxonspox> Losha: what are sane capable scanners?
[23:39] <augustl> zaxonspox: windows 7 doesn't either
[23:39] <Spasysheep> Losha: but my scanner is not supported by sane
[23:40] <augustl> it can read it, but not boot from it
[23:40] <zaxonspox> augustl: W7 must read from it, and boot from it
[23:41] <augustl> zaxonspox: not according to the installer
[23:41] <pmbasehore> so, can no one help? or, at least say, "i don
[23:41] <pmbasehore> t know"
[23:41] <augustl> it just says it can't install to that drive since it use GPT
[23:41] <gogeta> Spasysheep: install adblock plus and flashblock on firefox
[23:41] <augustl> pmbasehore: what's the problem?
[23:41] <jrib> !helpme | pmbasehore
[23:41] <gogeta> Spasysheep: that will end that
[23:41] <Losha> Spasysheep: oh, in that case, no. I misread UNsupported. I agree with gogeta, start googling the model number and see what turns up
[23:41] <Losha> zaxonspox: See http://www.sane-project.org/
[23:41] <zaxonspox> augustl mayby W7 is stupid, but it should read and install onto it, it is GPT
[23:42] <Spasysheep> gogeta: i have, that doesnt change the fact that the downloads pretending to be drivers are in fact viruses
[23:42] <the_file> Is it possible to embed puppy linux into the rom?.
[23:42] <dragonneus>  anyone know how to install usb touchscreen monitor in ubuntu 9.10 NBR? any leads where I can find info?
[23:42] <pmbasehore> augustl: i want the home key on my eeepc 1000 to show the desktop in 9.10 nbr?
[23:42] <zaxonspox> Losha: thanks, i will look
[23:42] <jrib> pmbasehore: do you know how to bind the home key to anything?
[23:43] <gogeta> Spasysheep: fine what scanner
[23:43] <augustl> pmbasehore: you can map that "by hand" with .xbindkeys
[23:43] <pmbasehore> the home key shows up as "mod3"
[23:43] <freezway> I was wondering if anyone could help me get my tty resolution to the native resolution of my moniter. (streched looks like crap on LCDs) I am running ubuntu 9.10 and using grub2
[23:43] <pmbasehore> it's seen as a superkey, not a standard or hotkey
[23:43] <Spasysheep> gogeta: hp scanjet 5530 photosmart
[23:43] <augustl> pmbasehore: I don't use ubuntu though so I'm not sure if there's a more ubuntu friendly way
[23:43] <gogeta> Spasysheep: this is linux you dont look for downloads anyways
[23:43] <Spasysheep> gogeta: i know
[23:43] <augustl> pmbasehore: there is a GUI for editing hotkeys though isn't there?
[23:43] <red2kic> pmbasehore: Use CTRL + ALT + D
[23:43] <pmbasehore> augustl: i've been using linux for 6 years and this is my first time with ubuntu
[23:44] <pmbasehore> it doesn't have to be friendly
[23:44] <gogeta> wow your not kidding
[23:44] <dragonneus>  anyone know how to install usb touchscreen monitor in ubuntu 9.10 NBR? any leads where I can find info?
[23:44] <pmbasehore> the hotkey gui won't see it, since its a modifier key
[23:44] <gogeta> wow there all scam sites
[23:44] <pmbasehore> red2kic: i don't want to use ctrol-alt-d
[23:44] <Bodsda> !repeat > dragonneus
[23:44] <the_file> df
[23:44] <augustl> pmbasehore: if you have "xbindkeys" in your ~/.Xsession and add bindings to ~/.xbindkeys.scm, you should be good to go
[23:45] <dragonneus> k ty
[23:45] <Bodsda> thanks
[23:45] <red2kic> pmbasehore: I imagine you could face conflict in keyboard shortcut.
[23:45] <augustl> pmbasehore: .xbindkeys.scm can contain "(xbindkey '("NameOfKeyHere"), "run this command")
[23:45] <augustl> pmbasehore: but try the GUI first, it's in the menus in the top bar
[23:45] <gogeta> Spasysheep: i found the answer thow
[23:45] <Spasysheep> gogeta: ??
[23:46] <gogeta> Spasysheep: Try to use the hplib-toolbox and then type this command line in the  Terminal window: sudo apt-get install libsane-extras On my pc this command made my scanner work. As I wrote, the program  XSane recognized it.
[23:46] <pmbasehore> yeah, already tried the gui
[23:46] <vimalr> hey guys, is it possible to run .app files on ubuntu?
[23:47] <gogeta> Spasysheep: its translated from itlaion so dont mind the bad english
[23:47] <jrib> !software | vimalr
[23:47] <jrib> vimalr: .app as in things for macs?  no
[23:47] <Spasysheep> gogeta: hplib-toolbox doesn't seem to exist any more, and libsane-extras didn't help. the scanner is listed by sane as unsupported, so i think the only way to make it work is write a backend for it for sane or find a separate driver
[23:47] <vimalr> jrib: yes, okay.
[23:48] <Mike9863> Does anyone know if there is a program like Coda (Mac OS) that is cross platform and works with Ubuntu?
[23:48] <gogeta> Spasysheep:  hplip-gui
[23:48] <gogeta> new name
[23:48] <jrib> Mike9863: what does coda do?
[23:48] <zaxonspox> Spasysheep, gogeta does hp website contains drivers for this scanner?
[23:48] <Ijan> !software
[23:48] <JoshDreamland> How do I add "Open in Terminal" to the right-click context menu of folders?
[23:48] <Spasysheep> gogeta: hplib-gui doesn't find it
[23:48] <Spasysheep> zaxonspox: no
[23:48] <JoshDreamland> I used some tool for it that I don't remember on Jaunty
[23:48] <Mike9863> jrib: it is a program that allows people to develop code together in live time
[23:48] <tadhg> Jordan_U: heya you still there?
[23:49] <jrib> JoshDreamland: install nautilus-open-terminal
[23:49] <JoshDreamland> Trying to do so on Karmic, but don't know where to search.
[23:49] <ulas> brazil!!!
[23:49] <JoshDreamland> jrib: Thanks much.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> tadhg: Yes, looking at what the best option from here is.
[23:49] <jrib> Mike9863: maybe gobby?
[23:49] <RuG> i need help
[23:49] <ulas> yes!!!
[23:49] <tadhg> Jordan_U: Thanks so much again! Just making sure you were still around :)
[23:49] <JoshDreamland> jrib: how do I get it to take effect? pkill who?
[23:49] <gogeta> Spasysheep: in fact hp does have a driver for you
[23:49] <Mike9863> jrib: I'll look into it, thanks
[23:49] <cage_raphel> hello guys..  whats the command to modift grub menu thro gedit? i am using Ubuntu 9.10
[23:50] <JoshDreamland> && what?
[23:50] <ulas> algum brasileiro!!!
[23:50] <jrib> JoshDreamland: try just restarting nautilus first...
[23:50] <RuG> i need help
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | cage_raphel
[23:50] <Spasysheep> gogeta: ORLY? I couldn't find a linux one...
[23:50] <gogeta> Spasysheep: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[23:50] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    there isn't any :), you simply modify it by typing in :)
[23:50] <Losha> Spasysheep: also, try #sane...
[23:50] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, what command do i type?
[23:50] <dragonneus> !repeat
[23:50] <JoshDreamland> yeah, that worked XD
[23:51] <RuG> how do i make a desktop cube
[23:51] <JoshDreamland> Thanks much.
[23:51] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    if you're have gedit already running, you already issued it :)
[23:51] <Cornwall> !compiz | RuG
[23:51] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, oh okie..
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> RuG: you will need 3d acceleration from your video card
[23:51] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    I assume you meant, what file to modify :P,   /etc/defaults/grub
[23:52] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, how do i check what version of grub i am running /
[23:52] <cage_raphel> ?
[23:52] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    and you need to run the editor in 'root' mode, so, run 'gksudo gedit'
[23:52] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    9.1 uses version 1.97 by default, AKA grub2
[23:52] <Losha> cage_raphel: grub --version will settle the matter...
[23:53] <gogeta> Spasysheep: that should get you up and running
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Losha: cage_raphel: grub-install --version
[23:53] <cage_raphel> Losha, thank u ..
[23:53] <gogeta> Spasysheep: you whernt kidding abought all those fake sites thats crazy
[23:54] <Losha> cage_raphel: note that if it says version 1.97, you have grub2. Thank the developer for that little bit of madness...
[23:54] <cage_raphel> Losha, it does not say version 1.97
[23:54] <Spasysheep> gogeta: yh, i've never seen that many for something linux specific before
[23:54] <Losha> cage_raphel: what *does* it say?
[23:54] <cage_raphel> this is what i got ..  " grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97) "
[23:54] <gogeta> Spasysheep: all windowws vires to
[23:54] <donna_> Having trouble with sound juicer and burning a cd onto mp3. Music will extract into sound juicer, then cd burner app but won't download onto mp3?
[23:54] <Losha> cage_raphel: Congratulations: you have grub1 !
[23:55] <cage_raphel> Losha, is that a good thing or a bad thing having grub1 ?
[23:55] <Spasysheep> gogeta: HPLIP doesnt support scanjets. It seems windows is useful for something other than games after all
[23:55] <gogeta> Spasysheep: so rather then look for your printer i just looks to see if hp had a linux driver and there it was
[23:55] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    no biggies, either way, no need to update it either, fyi
[23:55] <gogeta> Spasysheep: according to the fourm it does
[23:55] <Losha> cage_raphel: grub1 is, in my opinion, better (easier to configure). Double check this by doing 'grub --version'
[23:56] <pmbasehore> augustl: xbindkeys keeps getting segmentation faults
[23:56] <pmbasehore> i'll just live without it
[23:56] <Spasysheep> gogeta: "Sorry, HP Scanjet single function scanners are not supported by HPLIP. For possible Linux support, please visit: http://www.sane-project.org/"
[23:56] <red2kic> Is there a dictionary-cli or such sort?
[23:56] <cage_raphel> Losha, checked grub --version.. it says ... GNU GRUB 0.97
[23:56] <gogeta> Spasysheep: yours is a all in one job isnt it
[23:56] <gogeta> Spasysheep: not a single fuction
[23:56] <Losha> cage_raphel: definitely grub1 then. Be thankful...
[23:56] <The-Moon> I downloaded gparted earlier, the iso file, i copied it to a cd and when i start up my computer it doesnt detect the cd, any idea why?
[23:56] <cage_raphel> Losha, .. lol
[23:56] <Spasysheep> gogeta: noop, single function
[23:57] <grmrgecko_> Hello I need help to get ubuntu-desktop (gnome) on a ubuntu server 9.10 so I can vnc and manage my data on my server.
[23:57] <cage_raphel> Losha, Typos_King,  thank u .. the reason i asked is coz.. when i try to open my grub menu in gedit.. the menu.lst is blank.. i mean it opens in the gedit ..  but there is nothing in there..
[23:57] <pmbasehore> this channel hasn't been very good anyway--i shouldn't have to ask my question 3 times before i get a response, then get fussed at by a bot when i get upset
[23:57] <pg1> can anyone tell me if there is a GUI way to manually turn the fans on my laptop on? they arent coming on no matter how hot it gets and its freaking me out
[23:57] <gogeta> Spasysheep: well in the ubuntu forms it works for 1 guy
[23:57] <Losha> pmbasehore: here's your money back. Don't let the door hit you on the way out...
[23:57] <gogeta> Spasysheep: after installing that sane saw it
[23:57] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    .... grub1 DOES use menu.lst.... so, sounds to me you do have 1.97 after :P~
[23:58] <Spasysheep> gogeta: forum link?
[23:58] <pmbasehore> Losha: that was uncalled for. if you have a problem with my opinions, please pm me.
[23:58] <cage_raphel> grub --version
[23:58] <grmrgecko_> I installed it manually via apt-get on ssh but when I started vnc4server it only showed x11 and not ubuntu-desktop and I did reboot.
[23:58] <gogeta> Spasysheep: man i done closed it lol unsupported doesent mean it whont work
[23:58] <zaxonspox> cage_raphel: type in terminal locate menu.lst
[23:58] <red2kic> pmbasehore: Just letting you know. It's like asking SHIFT to bring up Firefox. It's not possible because of too many conflicts. It's a modifier.
[23:58] <cage_raphel> Typos_King, pls take a look at this .. just to confirm  if i have done things rigt .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/422436/
[23:58] <Losha> cage_raphel: either that or your menu.lst got lost somehow. Do you also have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg file?
[23:59] <zaxonspox> cage_raphel: if GRUB1 then menu.lst should be in /boot/grub/
[23:59] <pmbasehore> pmbasehore: it works in eeebuntu
[23:59] <pg1> can anyone tell me if there is a GUI way to manually turn the fans on my laptop on? they are on, but only at 2000 rpm. which is idle speed
[23:59] <Spasysheep> gogeta: k, well i may as well try it; it's not like it's going to break my system (famous last words...)
[23:59] <pmbasehore> they figured it out somehow
[23:59] <gogeta> lol
[23:59] <Typos_King> cage_raphel:    grub2 no longer uses menu.lst, the akin file for that will be 'grub.cfg' however since 'update-grub' modifies it using templates, is recommended to make any wanted 'permanent' changes in the templates, /etc/defaults/grub, rather than at grub.cfg directlyi, though I've done it to grub.cfg and then I make a backup for anything :)
[23:59] <Semitones> heyo, is apt-get distupgrade the same as aptitude distupgrade?
[23:59] <red2kic> pmbasehore: I see. Try the EEEchannel / EEE forums.
[23:59] <cage_raphel> this is what i got when i searched for typed locate menu.lst