[08:56] hi [08:56] anyone a hint, when rhythmbox just plays songs in a hickup style? [08:57] cpu is not under full load [08:57] rhythmbox is finished with checkin library .. [08:58] just plain playing with no other processes running, any ideas? [09:16] hi [09:20] I had some problems with the Pulseaudio vs. JACK fighting. I had to remove pulseaudio to use JACK, and after it I had to reinstall it to use other softwares, and this was not too funny. I don't have Studio, but did you get problem like me, and do you have a plan to solve it in 10.04? [10:57] dcndrew, you do know that you can just quit or suspend pulseaudio? [10:58] SteelSide, the suspend doesn't work [10:58] I meat the Jack use pulsesuspend, but gives back errors [10:58] *mean [10:58] well suspend it manually first then [10:59] when I tested studio yesterday qjackctl had no issues suspending pulseaudio for me [10:59] And how to quit? Because it restarts itself. [11:00] hmm for me it has worked to just killall pulseaudio [11:00] this was not on ubuntustudio thou [11:00] Yeah, I used killall and pkill too [11:00] depends on the setup i guess and what programs you run if it starts up automagically again [11:01] in general for my fedora machine i found that it would remain dead until I tried to start a program using audio, then it would usually but not always start up again [11:01] but in the meantime i could always fire up jackd first [11:01] and then pulseaudio couldn't start [11:01] hmm man pulseaudio says [11:01] pulseaudio -k [11:02] else run pasuspender qjackctl [11:02] it should release the hardware for jack to use [11:03] I used pulseaudio -k. The sound icon from the panel was gone, but came back, and the ps -A said pulseaudio is running [11:03] wwell did you have anything else running that wanted audio? [11:03] Nothing as I see [11:04] and pasuspender qjackctl doesn't work? [11:06] I'm on Ubuntu, and Jack gives back XRUN callback... [11:06] Error [11:06] And freeze. [11:07] hmm? [11:07] well I'm no expert with JACK [11:07] but are you running a realtime kernel? [11:07] else xruns (at least for me) are quite frequent [11:08] As I said, I'm using Ubuntu. And by the way I didn't install RT kernel. :] [11:09] well with no rt kernel you can expect xruns [11:10] But as I remember, the XRUN errors came back by simply suspending pulse [11:10] why jack would freeze I have no idea [11:10] oh yeah [11:10] uhm if you have jack set to realtime priority with no rt kernel, jack will crash instead [11:10] and it's the default setting for it [11:11] but if you're serious about audio work you probably want to get a realtime kernel before you continue any further [11:11] well at least for recordings :p [11:11] I'll do, and I just asked. :) [11:12] The Studio will come with the normal Ubuntu? [11:12] I mean on the same day? [11:13] No idea. I'm really not an ubuntu person at all, I just popped in here to ask some questions yesterday.. [11:13] :D [11:13] I see. :) [20:50] Hello. I'm trying to run Ubuntu Studio, but it won't get paste the terminal window. How do I get to the login window? [20:52] <_guitarman_> it should get there by itself - sound slike maybe it couldn't configure your video [20:52] <_guitarman_> are you booting into an rt kernel Kevin_Williams or just regular boot [20:52] <_guitarman_> did you ever get video [20:53] I didn't get video [20:53] I'm trying the sudo login command, but it won't get me there [21:00] How do I get to the video? [21:07] <_guitarman_> Kevin_Williams: there is a commmand which i cant recall that allwos you to reconfgure the video setup [21:07] <_guitarman_> dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg or something i cant recall someone in here might know [21:07] <_guitarman_> what kind of a video card do you have Kevin_Williams [21:11] I'm actually using the iso in a virtual machine [21:13] And the thing is, the VM won't set my username as root [21:16] Kevin_Williams: what VM? [21:16] VMware? [21:16] virtual box? [21:16] ive had decent luck with virtual box [21:16] * holstein never used VMware [21:20] <_guitarman_> Kevin_Williams: you wouldn't want a username of root anyways [21:20] you use VMware _guitarman_ ? [21:21] <_guitarman_> i have used it... its not much different then virtualbox accept its better for server installs [21:21] AH [21:21] <_guitarman_> because it gets its own ip address instead of some weird proxied one [21:21] <_guitarman_> through the desktop [21:21] cool [21:21] <_guitarman_> it does the bridging better [21:21] i think you can do that in Vbox [21:21] <_guitarman_> yeah with hassle [21:21] <_guitarman_> vmware does it for u [21:21] OIC [21:21] i have hassled with that in the past 4sure [21:22] <_guitarman_> anyways - i am pretty sure you create a username when installing ubuntustudio [21:22] <_guitarman_> just log in with that [21:22] <_guitarman_> but it sounds like he had video probs [21:22] <_guitarman_> its actually easier to test a distro out in virtualbox [21:22] <_guitarman_> i find [21:22] <_guitarman_> vmware is a bit bulky [21:22] i had a hard time getting compiz in Vbox [21:22] but ive never had any trouble with X [21:22] <_guitarman_> oh for sure - but he's not getting any graphics at all [21:23] <_guitarman_> i haven't had good luck with 3d under virtual machines [21:23] ive never had to force VESA or anything extreme that i remember [21:23] VMware? [21:23] yes [21:23] <_guitarman_> ok - i gots to eat... 2 hungry [21:23] <_guitarman_> bbl [21:23] if it were me, i would double check all the settings [21:23] in VMware [21:23] for the graphics [21:24] AND maybe get a lucid vanilla live CD [21:24] and see if graphics work with that [21:24] Okay [21:24] look at the set-up [21:24] thats strange [21:25] Okay [22:55] I hate Jack [22:55] jack dont like you much either ;) [22:56] Yeah [22:56] I'm sure of it [22:56] whats the issue Kentrel ? [22:56] Well, sometimes I just want to launch a music app and just play on my keyboard [22:56] The fastest way I've been able to do it is by running a windows app through wine and timidity together [22:57] That runs nice and smooth [22:57] OH [22:57] yeah, you need soundfonts or something [22:57] The native ubuntustudio apps require jack, which launches a bunch of different windows and requires different configuration [22:57] what about zynaddsubfx? [22:57] I have soundfonts - I run timidity [22:57] OH [22:57] well how about qsynth? [22:58] I have qsynth [22:58] you dont like to use your soundfonts with qsynth? [22:58] But I'm just frustrated at the number of different configurations I have to make everytime I try to run anything that requires jack [22:58] true [22:58] I do - its just really fiddly [22:59] have you tried a session manager? [22:59] Ironically, my fastest option is a script that launches timidity, then launches wine with Synthesia, a windows app [23:00] well, it it works for you, go for it [23:00] Yeah [23:01] I came on, wondering what other people's solutions were for my problem, ie. multiple drivers\windows launch that are fiddly to configure [23:02] you should join #opensourcemusicians [23:02] some awesome MIDI folk there [23:02] hmm, ok [23:02] i tend to just use jack and ardour [23:02] and record anolog [23:02] mayber using jamin when i mix [23:03] Have you managed to get any windows vsts working? [23:03] i usually dont have that many things open [23:03] and when i do, i appreciate the workflow [23:03] I want to try and get Kontakt working through wine - it launches okay. I just need to find my registry info again [23:03] its like having a patchbay on actual studio gear [23:04] i havnet even tried vsts [23:04] i got what i needed with LADSPA's [23:04] Did you install the latency kernel that rosegarden requires? [23:05] you mean a real time kernel? [23:05] linux-rt ? [23:06] i run a real-time kernel on my studio box [23:06] Does it affect normal usage? [23:07] hmmm [23:07] i say no [23:07] BUT i dont really do anything normal on that box [23:07] its my studio rig [23:07] i use to have issues [23:07] back at hardy or before [23:08] some devices would not be supported with the RT kernel [23:08] BUT all seems very stable these days [23:08] What about hardware [23:09] you mean hardware support? [23:09] My understanding of it was that it would draw more CPU power, even when the machine was idle [23:09] hmmm [23:09] maybe [23:09] i should A-B that [23:09] and report [23:10] when i run top with the RT kernel, nothing looks out of the ordinary [23:11] I remember reading something about that several months back [23:11] I don't mind so much, as long as it doesn't decrease the lifetime of my CPU [23:12] nah [23:12] its not going to be anything THAT extreme for sure [23:12] If the kernel is waking up 1000 times a second rather than 250, then surely that must affect the machine's power saving settings [23:12] and, for me, the benifits of the RT kernel make it necessayr [23:12] necessary* [23:13] i usually disable all that too [23:13] on the studio box [23:13] i dont want anything going to sleep [23:13] or thinking about going to sleep [23:13] unless i tell it to [23:14] probably a bit overkill for todays computers [23:14] I guess I could run the real time kernel when I'm doing music, then reboot into the normal kernel for normal faffing about on the web [23:14] that works [23:14] if you dont need the RT one [23:14] dont worry about it [23:14] if your not getting xruns [23:14] or pops or cracks [23:14] and your happy with the latency [23:15] just run with the generic one [23:17] If I have the two kernels in grub, am I still getting the same updates in my normal packages? [23:17] sure [23:18] and both will just update [23:18] you'll just have to notice which is default [23:18] Seperate updates, or the same update is compatible with both kernels? [23:18] all the packages will just update [23:19] including both kernels [23:19] SO if you got the generic one [23:19] and a newer RT one [23:19] and you take an update [23:19] that gets you a newer keneric one [23:19] then the order will more than likely change [23:19] BUT if your not hiding your grub menue [23:20] menu* [23:20] Hmm, confusing, but I guess it'll make sense when I actually do it [23:20] and your use to choosing the kernel at boot [23:20] it wont matter at all [23:20] is this lucid? [23:20] karmic? [23:21] !grub2 [23:21] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [23:21] you might want to look that over [23:21] if you need to change the default behavior of grub2 [23:26] Karmic [23:26] Thanks for your help [23:27] Kentrel: anytime [23:41] <_guitarman_> if you are doing updates from cmd line do you typically do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade [23:41] <_guitarman_> or safe-upgrade [23:43] _guitarman_: good call [23:48] <_guitarman_> i''ve been doing full-upgrade on my lucid [23:48] <_guitarman_> but not sure if thats right [23:49] * holstein been running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [23:49] in #ubuntu+1 [23:49] i saw several suggestions [23:54] <_guitarman_> yeah - see this is what im sorta annoyed with... on 1 hand you get them saying - apt-get is old - use aptitude ...then everyone is still using apt-get