[01:23] I'm currently on this site: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4002 [01:24] what does "live session" mean? [02:03] Having a minor problem with a Xubuntu 9.10 install. If anyone could help I'd appreciate it. [02:13] quit === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === ubuntu_ is now known as Sachse_Siechtum [03:05] hello everyone [04:26] does gnome have a purpose anymore? [04:35] ForgeAus, was that a support question? [04:35] lol bazhang... [04:35] ForgeAus, not kidding [04:35] I don't know, you tell me [04:36] then, no [04:36] its an xubuntu question that much I do know [04:36] try one of the -offtopic channels [04:36] then don't call the channel #xubuntu call it #xubuntu-support [04:37] any question about #xubuntu should be ontopic here [04:37] !offtopic [04:37] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [04:37] hmm [04:37] well it certainly doesn't fit my description of random chatter [04:37] so prehaps it was a support question? [04:38] ForgeAus, does gnome have a purpose is certainly not a support question. please use one of the chat channels as was asked before [04:39] or perhaps it doesn't really fit any of those three categories properly? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [07:15] can someone help me [07:16] i need some info on open ssl [11:31] hey guys [11:32] hi Exile2010 [11:32] anybody know if xubuntu has the same drivers as in ubuntu? [11:32] or is it cut down? [11:32] bassicly I have a machine running ubuntu fine [11:32] just a bit slow [11:32] want to know if xubuntu will work better [11:33] and if the wifi card is going to cause problems [11:33] it uses the same drivers - they're all in the kernel [11:33] kool [11:33] so it should be fine then! [11:33] :] [11:33] just wanted to double check [11:33] should be yes [11:35] thanks man [11:35] I'll let you guys know if I have problems! [11:36] k :] [12:21] im trying to use xrdp on ubuntu so i can use windows rdesktop but all i get is a blackscreen [17:06] hi, I'm having some problems installing xubuntu [17:07] What kind of problem? [17:07] the built-in drive is "dead", so I'm using an external cd/dvd drive via USB and want to install it from there [17:08] I managed to boot the xubuntu cd, but when I choose "Install Xubuntu", I get some error, like "no medium found on /dev/sr0" and others [17:09] Does the cd pass the integrity check? [17:09] how can I check this? [17:10] (I should say, it's my first try with (x)ubuntu and I'm not used to it at all :)) [17:10] There is a menu on the cd, check this disc or something similar [17:11] hum okay, I'm gonna reboot and try this, then I'll come back here, okay? :) [17:54] hi, how can I check to see if there are any updates from the cmd line [17:56] datz: sudo apt-get update [17:56] sudo apt-get upgrade [17:58] should show any changes and ask if you want to proceed. 'N' then stops it from applying the updates [17:59] ok, thanks charlie-tca [17:59] no problem [18:00] was wondering if there is any command to bring up stats that are shown at times when you log on through ssh.. there are x number of security updates and x number of total [20:03] hey everybody [20:05] anybody here? [20:06] !ask [20:06] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [20:06] hello, anybody out there [20:07] Do you have a question that you need help with? [20:31] hey charlie-tca :-) my judo teacher wants me to install Linux Xubuntu on his old Laptop :-) (128 MB RAM) *g* will install on this one? [20:32] Gonna run bad with 128MB ram [20:35] hi what's happening w/ xubuntu 10.04? no release notes for the rc? [20:35] Didn't change much from beta2 notes [20:37] is it lighter than ubuntu and kubuntu? [20:37] lontra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/LucidLynx/Beta2 [20:37] yes, Xubuntu is always lighter than Ubuntu and Kubuntu [20:38] ok cause kubuntu is cripplingly slow [20:39] kde requires a lot of ram to run good, if I recall. [20:39] i have 4 GB and a fast computer and it uses 1.5 GB doing nothing but irc and a text editor ;( [20:40] That seems wrong [20:40] that's what free -m shows [20:41] also do you know if i installed gedit in xfce4 would that add a lot of gnome dependencies? [20:41] It will install some, since it is gnome dependent [20:42] oh and is xubuntu 10.04 lts? and if not how long is it supporte? [20:42] Xubuntu 10.04 will be supported for three years [20:43] so same as gnome [20:43] thanks === Joseph is now known as Guest28846 [20:43] charlie-tca, well I'll see === Guest28846 is now known as Joe_Rossi [20:44] It will not run nice at all. You will need to use the alternate image for the install, too [20:44] Desktop cd won't install in 128MB [20:44] I have 491 MB ram used right now [20:44] anyone in here know how to get compiz to work, i downloaded it and compiz-config-manager [20:45] charlie-tca, yeah [20:45] and i could do it on the regular ubuntu, but now i've installed all of the required packages [20:45] and it still wont work [20:46] >( [20:46] >:( [20:47] really getting my jets roaring [20:48] ):< === me is now known as Guest36970 [20:52] or I could use DSL [20:52] but I dont have any experience with that distro [20:59] You might want to look at http://www.tuxradar.com/content/whats-best-lightweight-linux-distro [20:59] It has some good info in it [21:01] charlie-tca, thanks :-) [21:02] no problem [21:02] There is also lubuntu, which is ubuntu based with lxde. It is about 30% lighter than Xubuntu for most users [21:05] ah [21:05] "To this end, they were tested, where possible, on an ancient Compaq laptop with 256MB RAM, Vesa graphics, a 4GB hard drive and a 200MHz Pentium processor." [21:05] alright...so my friends laptop is "fossile" *g* [21:06] wellll, yes! [21:06] I cant believe he has Windows XP on it... [21:06] Sometimes, though, increasing the processor makes up for decreasing the ram [21:06] yeah [21:07] I got a 486, 33MHz cpu with 384MB ram running XP [21:07] Just have to apply the right tricks for that [21:09] The other part of the article is that 'crunchbang' rated high, but would not install in the hardware. [21:09] charlie-tca, O_O [21:09] yeah [21:09] Just take it with a bit of scepticism? [21:10] and hardware is always tricky with laptops....excspecially old ones [21:10] yes [21:11] It just seemed to me to be a bit off when a disto that would not install rates higher than distros that do install [21:12] yeah *lol* [21:12] Lubuntu looks interesting [21:13] But... at least it does give a nice rundown with different options available [21:15] yeah [21:16] slitaz looks tempting..because it also has a german language package [21:16] since my friend is german (DUH) *g* [21:17] woah only 25 MB! [21:19] oh how I love thee, my Linux :-) [21:20] heh, good luck [21:21] charlie-tca, thanks... :-) just imagine...how many different modern variants windows has... .;-) [21:21] yeah, Nice, huh? [21:21] oh I love it! :-) [21:25] charlie-tca, and there is also a package dvd with all the packages for slitaz... :-) [21:25] * Sachse_Siechtum is in geek heaven right now [21:26] Does he have a dvd reader in that 'ancient' machine? [21:26] nope a just cd... [21:26] but I could connect the old laptop with lan cable with mine.. [21:26] yeah no wlan btw too [21:28] the first OS on that thing was Win ME .... [21:29] ugh [21:31] charlie-tca, yeah. I just had ME on one computer once. I never had so many blue screens... [21:31] agai [21:32] again [21:32] I know that one, too [21:32] I read somewhere its considered as the worst windows ever built [21:32] I onece installed Win98 on a 486DX with 64Mib of RAM and it took half a day to install it. :-) [21:32] urgh [21:33] Windows 98 was good though, for DoS games... [21:33] DOS [21:33] not....denial of service games LOL [21:33] yup [21:33] I ran DOS, myself [21:33] me too [21:34] real mode ftw! *g* [21:34] :) I ran some MS and PC DOS and later FreeDOS which is great. [21:34] :-) [21:34] It has a kernel, network and graphics support and dozens of dev-tools. Awry! :-) [21:35] :-) [21:35] charlie-tca, I consider Lubuntu and slitaz as "fossile laptop" candidates [21:36] Great! I hear FreeDOS is a good way to go, if you got DOS stuff to use... [22:08] hello, I just wanna know what about the problem with intel 8xx under kms? [22:09] is this problem already solved? [22:13] As far as I know, there is no issue with it in lucid, but I don't have any Intel video systems, either [22:16] charlie-tca: so I can just stay with 904 [22:30] see you later