| persia | If someone has a moment, could they confirm that `kdesudo -- aptitude -u install hello` pops up a dialogue properly? (no need to enter the password or accept) | 02:21 |
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| === clay_doh is now known as claydoh | ||
| ScottK | persia: It does. | 02:34 |
| persia | Excellent. Unfortunately my other test case (su -c) doesn't, so I have to work around it a bit more. | 02:34 |
| * persia kinda wishes upstreams wouldn't put (incorrect) "distro support scripts" in their software. | 02:34 | |
| JontheEchidna | grr, chrome at my http:/ | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | chrome dident, chromium might have , right ? | 04:35 |
| imbrandon | iirc chrome hasent enabled that feature yet | 04:36 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: It's almost like it's an Ayatana project. | 04:36 |
| JontheEchidna | s/chrome/chromium | 04:37 |
| imbrandon | JontheEchidna ;) | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | and yes i drink the google coolaid and use chrome along with most other google services ( including google apps for my site and email ) | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | lol | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | basicly if google goes belly up Brandon Holtsclaw dissapears from the internet. | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | ( although i keep local backups of most everything ) | 04:42 |
| Riddell | persia: kdesudo -- aptitude -u install hello is a bad aptitude command no? | 09:39 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hmm, logout broken you say? | 09:40 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: Yep. Every second logout of a non-admin user. | 11:23 |
| Riddell | that's random | 11:24 |
| Riddell | well it's not, but it's obscure | 11:24 |
| ScottK | It isn't at all obscure if you have multiple non-admin users of a machine. | 11:30 |
| ScottK | That's how I hit it, once I upgradede the kid's computer. | 11:30 |
| ScottK | Bug #569879 has the details. | 11:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 569879 in kdebase-workspace "Non-admin user logout fails on Lucid" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569879 | 11:31 |
| === michaelk is now known as Guest91712 | ||
| Riddell | ScottK: I can't recreate the logout issue | 11:51 |
| Riddell | however X is now doing very strange things | 11:54 |
| Riddell | wibble http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/broken-x.png | 11:57 |
| debfx | that looks ehh intresting ;) | 12:01 |
| debfx | I can reproduce the logout fail but it's not limited to non-admin users | 12:02 |
| debfx | sometimes kdm even fails to start on boot | 12:02 |
| Riddell | waa | 12:07 |
| * apachelogger blames upstart | 12:12 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: kdm.log and X.log would be interesting I suppose | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | but I dont think that kdm is supposed to restart itself after logout, which leaves us with the options that X crashes and kdm fails to restart it (maybe gets dragged down along with X?) or some patch of ours breaks it | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | because IIRC logout is a rather simple process | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | ksmserver just kicks all apps into nirvana and returns to kdm which is then supposed to redraw it's ui | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | (IIRC that is) | 12:15 |
| === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| debfx | kdm.log says: xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: interrupted system call | 14:49 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'm traveling today, so I'll provide logs when I can. | 14:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: starting kontact I get an akonadi error saying "no resource agents found" | 14:55 |
| Riddell | and Contacts is greyed out with a large red X saying "akonadi not operational" | 14:55 |
| maco | if you run quit and restart kontact, akonadi will be running that time, but that shouldnt be necessary | 14:56 |
| Riddell | ack | 14:58 |
| imbrandon | wow, already getting emails about kde 4.4.3 for lucid ;) | 14:58 |
| maco | the internet told me that. i didnt figure it out on my own. i just went :( "hrmmmmmmmph" and started grepping through the std.vcf that makes up my contact list :P | 14:59 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: oh? | 15:03 |
| maco | yeah someone asked if 4.4.3 will be SRUd | 15:04 |
| Riddell | depenends if I get this backports policy sorted, added to my todo list for the day | 15:05 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yea sent to -devel a few minutes ago asking if we will have it in ready to test on the 29th ;) | 15:05 |
| Riddell | since it doesn't get tagged until the 29th, that seems a bit demanding :) | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: Oo is this reproducible? | 15:08 |
| maco | apachelogger: yes | 15:09 |
| maco | apachelogger: http://www.pubbs.net/201004/ubuntu/49623-akonadi-1004.html | 15:10 |
| maco | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/564263 | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 564263 in akonadi ""No resource agents found" error when starting for the first time" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:10 |
| maco | apachelogger: you've been active on that bug report | 15:12 |
| * apachelogger hates mysql | 15:13 | |
| maco | and 1 minute doesn't seem /too/ unreasonable given that likely you start up kontact and a bunch of other stuff on login, right? | 15:13 |
| maco | takes about 5 minutes for firefox to get going and restore 100 tabs | 15:13 |
| ScottK | Sounds like a case for Chromium. | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | I hardly think firefox with 100 tabs is standard use case :P | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | maco: without completes log the message is just about useless | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | resources agents will not be found when... | 15:16 |
| maco | apachelogger: i clicked the save log button once... | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | akonadi-server crashes | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | mysql crashes | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | no agents are around | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | akonadi-server fails to register | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | akonadi-control fails to register | 15:16 |
| maco | http://pastebin.com/1zqaw139 | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | eventloop does not finish within timeout | 15:16 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| apachelogger | test 4 fails | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | this has nothing to do with timeout | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | mysql is the broken | 15:17 |
| maco | how to unbreak? | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | maco: either run the mysql_update and install scripts manually (as described in the kde techbase) or wipe your akonadi setup | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | new setups *should* have working tables | 15:18 |
| maco | but upgraders are stuck? | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | pretty much | 15:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I have a new setup and it has that problem | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that particular problem? | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | s/particular/exact | 15:18 |
| maco | Riddell: same error log as me? | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | as stated above, non-registered agents can have loads of causes | 15:19 |
| maco | apachelogger: where in giant techbase? | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: google akonadi techbase error | 15:19 |
| kubotu | Results for akonadi techbase error: 1. Projects/PIM/Akonadi - KDE TechBase: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi | 2. Development/Tutorials/Akonadi/Resources - KDE TechBase: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Akonadi/Resources | 3. Akonadi Error! - openSUSE Forums: http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/406456-akonadi-error.html | 15:19 |
| Riddell | maco: where is the log? | 15:20 |
| maco | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/1zqaw139 | 15:21 |
| Riddell | maco: but where do I find it? | 15:21 |
| maco | Riddell: the popup error box you got when you starte kontact should have offered to let you save it | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | maco: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | userbase after all ^^ | 15:21 |
| Riddell | i do have this http://pastebin.com/h8YpAShS in .local/share/akonadi/akonadi_control.error "Unable to register service as org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control Maybe it's already running?" | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that is on a new install? | 15:27 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: new last week yes, new $HOME directory | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | that is not good | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is akonadicontrol really not started already? | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | if not, please try getting a backtrace | 15:31 |
| * apachelogger should be home in 1.5 h or so | 15:31 | |
| maco | apachelogger: mine works now thanks | 15:35 |
| Riddell | akonadicontrol is fine and I can use akonadi after starting kontact for the second time | 15:35 |
| Riddell | http://pastebin.com/kf707jYd is the error log | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11 | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is that log from first or second start? | 15:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it's from third start after I stopped akonadi through akonaditray so I could click the details button in address book | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmm | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: could you please get a log from each start | 15:38 |
| * apachelogger finds that rather odd | 15:38 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how do I get a log? if it's running I don't get the "Details" link on the addressbook error message | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: akonaditray | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | or via the akonadi kcm | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | in the kcm you have a test button | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: um sorry.. bad tab complete | 15:56 |
| shtylman | no probs | 15:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/zcTzJhRQ first time unsuccessful | 16:05 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/zcTzJhRQ second time successful | 16:05 |
| Trouble | Does anyone know why, now I've upgraded my Karmic notebook to Lucid I no longer have any window decoration? I'm sure I had this problem before, but can't remember how I fixed it. I've already started with a new .kde directory. | 16:12 |
| Riddell | are you running Kubuntu netbook? | 16:13 |
| Trouble | Yea yea | 16:13 |
| Trouble | Sorry, should have said netbook rather than notebook :-p | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | Trouble: try : alt+f2 and type : kwin --replace | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | ( if theres a alt+F2 in the netbook :P ) | 16:14 |
| Trouble | Yea there is... Alt + Fn + S ;-) It's a Dell Inspiron Mini 9 | 16:16 |
| Trouble | But kwin --replace doesn't fix the problem | 16:16 |
| Trouble | I'm sure I had this before - perhaps when I installed Jaunty (lol I should have said Jaunty rather than Karmic!), or perhaps when I upgraded KDE to 4.4 | 16:18 |
| Riddell | Trouble: that's deliberate, netbook is intended not to have window borders | 16:18 |
| Trouble | Oh lol | 16:19 |
| Trouble | Makes sense ;-) | 16:19 |
| Trouble | Thank you! | 16:19 |
| * Trouble slaps his forehead | 16:19 | |
| === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ | ||
| apachelogger | Riddell: well | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you have mysqld-akonadi BEFORE doing anything akonadiish? | 16:40 |
| Riddell | let me chekc | 16:41 |
| ^No_MeRcY^ | sera | 16:41 |
| Trouble | Riddell: If I wanted the window decoration back in netbook, how could I make it so? I quite miss the minimise and close buttons :) | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: my theory is that at some point your desktop crashed or mysqld-akonadi did just not terminate properly, leaving the log file locks in place, now at eveyr startup mysqld goes mad about that, but eventually starts | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | hence akonadi does funny things because of mysql's failure | 16:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: new login has akonaditray and mysqld-akonadi running | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: no akonadi*? | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | akonadiserver, akonadicontrol etc. | 16:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no akonadi* | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | :( | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: mind getting a self-test of that? | 16:44 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: from the kcm? | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 16:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/EPh8ti4M | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | hmmmm | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | that is not good | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you have any sensitive data in akonadi or can you ship me your data? | 16:51 |
| Riddell | not that I know of | 16:51 |
| Riddell | how do I do that? | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: tar .config/akonadi/ and .local/share/akonadi/ | 16:52 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/akonadi2.tar.gz http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/akonadi.tar.gz | 16:54 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| apachelogger | works just fine here -.- | 17:00 |
| Trouble | Oh I see how netbook works now. Windows are forced as maximized - but there is a minimise/maximise button (and close button) on the bar ;-) | 17:01 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| apachelogger | kubotu: np | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: ping | 17:02 |
| kubotu | pong | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | strange | 17:02 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'll do a fresh install in a bit so I'll check how that works | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: should be working there ;) | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | there is something off with the locking | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | I suppose that it is related to your akonadicontrol crashing | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | which really shouldnt happen | 17:03 |
| * apachelogger doesnt really know how a innodb log file gets locked though | 17:05 | |
| apachelogger | lsof doesnt help either | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I guess we could still switch the setup to psql? ;) | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | oh, hold on, that only works if we add magic for per-user access | 17:06 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: new website featured user? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/A0wcmXy2 | 17:07 |
| Riddell | this is a very cool use of Kubuntu, they sell music keyboards using Kubuntu http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/A0wcmXy2 | 17:07 |
| Riddell | ryanakca, ofirk: seems like we won't get the new theme installed for release I'm afraid | 17:19 |
| Riddell | we can put a big splash on the front page for release with the current theme | 17:19 |
| ofirk | when it will be ready? | 17:20 |
| Riddell | and make sure they get it sorted as soon as possible after | 17:20 |
| Riddell | ofirk: early next week | 17:20 |
| ofirk | ok | 17:20 |
| ofirk | I can make the big splash | 17:21 |
| Riddell | go for it | 17:21 |
| ofirk | it should fit into the top banner, right? | 17:21 |
| Riddell | ofirk: actually i think replacing the main content would be best | 17:24 |
| ofirk | Riddell: so I will make something that will replace the text from "Kubuntu: Friendly Computing" to the bottom | 17:26 |
| ofirk | Riddell: with download button | 17:26 |
| Riddell | so just replace the intro and user profiles on release day until the new theme is up with a big 10.04 banner/release info | 17:26 |
| ofirk | yep :) | 17:26 |
| ofirk | I will get to it today | 17:27 |
| Riddell | you rock | 17:28 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| nixternal | since when is kwallet storing svn passwords? it is foobarring my svn stuff | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: it only does if you got kdesvn installed | 17:52 |
| Riddell | nixternal! | 17:55 |
| Riddell | nixternal: docs?! | 17:55 |
| nixternal | there doesn't seem to be enough translated really to warrent us to even do a new docs package right now | 17:56 |
| nixternal | there are like 2 or 3 languages that are close...so i still might push something tonight just for them | 17:57 |
| nixternal | FR and DE | 17:57 |
| Riddell | tonight is probably too late for CDs | 17:58 |
| Riddell | so do it as SRU | 17:58 |
| nixternal | yeah, I think ScottK already mentioned that...and I think it will be best since the doc team come up with a schedule for SRUs | 17:58 |
| nixternal | when we do the release, lets make sure we add "Docs aren't translated yet...will be soon" | 17:59 |
| dpm | Riddell, nixternal, docs are really hard to translate, so not even in GNOME or KDE you get them to the level that apps are translated. It took our team about 2 years to finish the Catalan ubuntu-docs translation, but we (and our users) still appreciated our partiartially translated documentation. Looking at https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/kubuntu-docs/+pots/kubuntu-docs-about-desktop, that particular template for example ha | 18:02 |
| dpm | s been translated to 20 odd langs, so I think even though other templates might not be that well translated, that enough warrants an export and upload | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did we settle on a slot for the plasma scripting session already? | 18:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: 16:00 tomorrow we're thinking | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thanks | 18:06 |
| lex79 | utc? | 18:07 |
| Riddell | yes | 18:07 |
| lex79 | k | 18:08 |
| Riddell | freeflying: did you get a chance to test the ARM kubuntu netbook images? | 18:15 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| debfx | why would kdm start X on vt8? :/ | 18:21 |
| neversfelde | ScottK: I think I can mark my logout bug as a duplicate of bug 569879? | 19:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 569879 in kdebase-workspace "Non-admin user logout fails on Lucid" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569879 | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | Sput: will there ever be dcc file transfer support in quassel? | 19:40 |
| Sput | apachelogger: possibly | 19:40 |
| Sput | if someone comes up with a design that makes sense in a distributed setting, and implements it | 19:40 |
| Sput | (note that one would also have to solve the problem of sending, say, a few hundred MB via the core/client connection without having normal operations suffer) | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | do people really send that large crap? | 19:42 |
| neversfelde | do people really use dcc? | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | I only know one at this point | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | then again most of the people I interact with via irc are unicorns anyway and wouldnt know how to operate the dcc ^^ | 19:43 |
| neversfelde | hehe | 19:44 |
| Sput | most people still using IRC nowadays, other than FOSS people and gamers, are downloading movies | 19:44 |
| Sput | I mean, EFnet is all about warez | 19:44 |
| * apachelogger finds that rather odd TBH | 19:44 | |
| Sput | I'm told that back in the day, people would enqueue themselves in bots which would then DCC over the stuff automatically once it was your turn | 19:45 |
| Sput | well, this was before torrents were invented :) | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | Congratulations! Your proposal "Ubuntu One for the KDE workspace" as | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | submitted to "Ubuntu" has been accepted for Google Summer of Code 2010. | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | weeeeh | 19:56 |
| * apachelogger hugs everyone | 19:56 | |
| Riddell | ooh hugs | 19:58 |
| * bulldog98 hugs every cool Kubuntu Dev | 20:00 | |
| * Tscheesy hugs the team too | 20:07 | |
| * mcas hugs the devs | 20:27 | |
| * Blizzz hugs the devs, the bots and the channel too | 20:27 | |
| JontheEchidna | GSoC app didn't get accepted. There's always next year though. :) | 20:28 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: yeah sucks :( ubuntu didn't get many places and you were one away from being accepted | 20:36 |
| JontheEchidna | oh? one away? That makes me feel a bit better :) | 20:37 |
| JontheEchidna | Did Kubuntu get any love this year? | 20:37 |
| bulldog98 | yes apachelogger got the GSoC for the Kubuntu One Client | 20:38 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: gratz | 20:38 |
| JontheEchidna | I actually have a use for the Ubuntu One service, and perhaps would use it more if there was a KDE frontend | 20:40 |
| JontheEchidna | Well, had until today. (The last day of English class! Woo!) But I'm sure similar situations will arise in the future | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: u1 makes so much more sense from a whole data sync POV | 20:52 |
| apachelogger | like have your laptop and workstation in sync regarding data and bookmarks and addressbook ... | 20:53 |
| apparle | hi guys.... | 20:53 |
| JontheEchidna | basically I need a way to sync my laptop files with some third point that I can access from the school print computers | 20:53 |
| maco | JontheEchidna: he doesnt even just mean that you were next in line (though you were), he means you were literally 1 point off | 20:55 |
| neversfelde | :( | 20:57 |
| JontheEchidna | oh wow | 20:57 |
| JontheEchidna | time to go home, bbl | 20:58 |
| maco | um any of you notice that the last few weeks lucid doesnt suspend on low battery? | 20:59 |
| maco | mine keeps just turning off instead of suspending. really annoying | 21:00 |
| jjesse | my netbook does the same thing | 21:00 |
| neversfelde | I discovered no problems here | 21:03 |
| neversfelde | cool, EAD wird deutsch reden | 21:05 |
| apparle | IS there any good PC suite for Nokia symbian phones | 21:22 |
| JontheEchidna | Re: suspending, I haven't had any troubles with it | 21:41 |
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| Mamarok | neversfelde: I don't think this xander guy really has a problem... he is trying to make this up | 21:59 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| neversfelde | Mamarok: +1, I*ll kick him | 22:06 |
| nixternal | DarkwingDuck: ping | 22:10 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Bummer regarding the theme | 22:19 |
| ryanakca | ofirk: Great, thanks :) | 22:19 |
| ofirk | ryanakca: I came up with some banner for the current frontpage | 22:22 |
| ofirk | ryanakca: I am not satisfied with it, but I don't have more time... :( | 22:23 |
| ryanakca | :( | 22:23 |
| ryanakca | ofirk: Do what you can and I'm sure it will be excellent, just like all of your other work so far. | 22:23 |
| ofirk | ryanakca: ok. I will send it to you (or to Riddell?) later. | 22:24 |
| Riddell | both of us probably best | 22:27 |
| ofirk | ryanakca, Riddell: I sent it to both of you | 23:00 |
| Riddell | bling! http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/temp-banner.png | 23:03 |
| Riddell | ofirk: oh it needs to say "10.04 LTS" else the marketing department will eat me | 23:03 |
| ofirk | Riddell: working on it ;) | 23:04 |
| ofirk | Riddell: walla! http://imagebin.ca/view/pNx32p.html | 23:09 |
| Riddell | ofirk: mercy buckets! | 23:10 |
| ofirk | Riddell: you welcome :) | 23:11 |
| freeflying | Riddell: sorry, not yet, all my sd cards being broken, didn't get a chance to buy new one | 23:45 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: really late pong | 23:50 |
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