| * thumper afk and gym willing, back alive later | 05:02 | |
| mwhudson | huh, codebrowse for private branches is broken on staging... | 05:57 |
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| mwhudson | and maybe in production? | 05:58 |
| mwhudson | surely someone would have noticed by now | 05:58 |
| thumper | mwhudson: you would have thought so | 06:20 |
| thumper | mwhudson: how broken? | 06:20 |
| mwhudson | thumper: entirely | 06:20 |
| thumper | do you know where in the chain it is broken? | 06:20 |
| thumper | mwhudson: found this out testing your changes? | 06:20 |
| mwhudson | thumper: yeah | 06:22 |
| mwhudson | thumper: it's also important to change codebrowse to use safe_open | 06:23 |
| * thumper nods | 06:23 | |
| thumper | well, on the plus side, I'm not dead | 06:23 |
| mwhudson | thumper: hooray! | 06:28 |
| * thumper back after dinner to review mwhudson's branches | 06:36 | |
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| adeuring | good morning | 08:22 |
| mrevell | Morning | 09:14 |
| thumper | phew | 10:22 |
| thumper | that's the last five reviews done for today | 10:22 |
| thumper | hi mrevell | 10:23 |
| bigjools | yo thumper | 10:23 |
| thumper | hi bigjools | 10:23 |
| thumper | bigjools: can you please chase the bzr-builder issue today | 10:23 |
| thumper | bigjools: once we have that sorted, we can enable build to archive on dogfood | 10:23 |
| bigjools | thumper: yeah, I'm going to speak to lamont later | 10:23 |
| thumper | bigjools: and do some real tests | 10:23 |
| mrevell | Hi thumper | 10:23 |
| thumper | I'm done, but mrevell, we should have a chat sometime this week | 10:24 |
| thumper | not now | 10:24 |
| thumper | mrevell: could you do wednesday evening? | 10:24 |
| thumper | mrevell: that's your local time | 10:25 |
| mrevell | thumper, My Wednesday evening should be fine. What time are you thinking? | 10:25 |
| thumper | mrevell: 8:30pm for you is 9:30am for me, which would be good | 10:25 |
| thumper | mrevell: before that I have the stand up | 10:25 |
| thumper | mrevell: but could push it the other way if you like | 10:25 |
| mrevell | thumper, 9pm UK time or after works better for me | 10:26 |
| thumper | mrevell: 9pm UK time is good for me | 10:26 |
| mrevell | great, speak to you then thumper | 10:26 |
| thumper | ok | 10:26 |
| thumper | night all | 10:26 |
| deryck | Morning, all. | 11:06 |
| jml | good morning all. | 11:30 |
| mrevell | Hey, intellectronica do you have a moment? | 12:10 |
| mrevell | or deryck | 12:11 |
| intellectronica | mrevell: sure, what's up? | 12:14 |
| mrevell | Hi intellectronica. the bug-heat-view test is failing on my bug heat help branch. Mind if I pastebin you the output? I'm unsure how to adjust the test to take account of my changes. | 12:15 |
| intellectronica | mrevell: sure, paste away | 12:15 |
| mrevell | intellectronica, Cheers! http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/422705/ | 12:16 |
| intellectronica | mrevell: i guess the output changed a bit because now you're surrounding it with an anchor or something? | 12:18 |
| intellectronica | mrevell: try changing "for img in soup.span.contents:" to "for img in soup.span.a.contents:" | 12:20 |
| mrevell | intellectronica, Oh, cool, thanks. I've been trying to work out how to make it happy with the anchor. Cheers, I'll re-run the test now. | 12:22 |
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| huf | hi. is anyone successfully using the lp software other than you guys? :) | 13:07 |
| Ursinha | huf, well, ubuntu? :) | 13:08 |
| huf | i meant a separate installation | 13:08 |
| Ursinha | ah | 13:08 |
| Ursinha | that I don't know | 13:08 |
| Ursinha | bigjools, hi | 13:10 |
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| maxb | huf: No-one's ever mentioned successfully creating another running installation. The image license terms are probably a notable part of that | 13:17 |
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| jml | oh | 14:54 |
| jml | I just saw a comment from mwhudson, "all subversion-via-cscvs imports seem to be failing" | 14:55 |
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| jml | gary_poster: Is there any discernable difference between a read-only webservice API and a static JSON file? | 15:48 |
| jml | gary_poster: I'd ask leonardr, but he doesn't seem to be here. | 15:49 |
| jml | auth & wadl, I guess. | 15:51 |
| gary_poster | jml, leonardr is out today. Will be back tomorrow. So, I'm not crystal clear on your question, but the only distinction I'd make is that, of course, a query string will quite probably matter for a webservice API, but be ignored if a file is server statically. | 15:51 |
| jml | gary_poster: ok, thanks. | 15:52 |
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| deryck | hmmm, the bugtask table is missing its colors for status/importance now. | 16:23 |
| deryck | sinzui, related to your CSS refactor maybe? ^^ | 16:23 |
| sinzui | deryck, I am sure it is | 16:24 |
| * sinzui starts to investigate | 16:24 | |
| deryck | sinzui, was just about to ask if you're doing follow up fixes, or if we need to have it scheduled. :-) | 16:24 |
| sinzui | I will be landing fixes everyday until I am certain all is well | 16:25 |
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| abentley | mars, I have a bootstrapping problem: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/422829/ | 16:35 |
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| mars | abentley, looking | 16:45 |
| mars | abentley, did you try 'make clean && make' ? | 16:46 |
| mars | abentley, and if this was not created with rf-branch, then I assume you ran utilities/link-external-sourcecode ? | 16:46 |
| abentley | mars, same problem. | 16:46 |
| mars | a bit confused as to why 'elisa' is in that build chain? | 16:47 |
| abentley | mars, this is the directory that link-external-sourcecode would use, as its target, so no. | 16:47 |
| mars | abentley, ah, so this is running 'make' in devel then? | 16:48 |
| abentley | mars, yes. | 16:48 |
| abentley | stable, actually. | 16:48 |
| jtv | intellectronica: we won't get around to that lazr-js upgrade this cycle, I'm afraid | 16:49 |
| sinzui | deryck, did you report a bug about the colour issue? | 16:51 |
| deryck | sinzui, I did not. I can, though. | 16:51 |
| intellectronica | jtv: that's a shame, it's not that much work, actually. | 16:52 |
| mars | abentley, 'make' works in devel? | 16:52 |
| jtv | intellectronica: I was wondering about that... do we have it documented? | 16:52 |
| sinzui | I will report the bug. The issue is simple and universal. I moved the anchor colour rules to the new style sheet. I need to move all the colour rules new so that they take precedence. | 16:52 |
| sinzui | deryck, ^ | 16:53 |
| deryck | sinzui, ok, thanks. if I had filed a bug, this would be the sort of thing to file against launchpad-web? | 16:53 |
| intellectronica | jtv: i don't think we do (and i must admit i don't remember it exactly to describe it), but we can look it up together if you want. | 16:53 |
| abentley | mars, I don't have a devel on that box. | 16:53 |
| sinzui | deryck, In this case it is. | 16:53 |
| deryck | ok, thanks | 16:54 |
| jtv | intellectronica: it's getting late here, but I would appreciate a quick collaborative look... | 16:54 |
| intellectronica | jtv: excellent, let's do that tomorrow my morning? | 16:55 |
| mars | abentley, was it upgraded to lucid recently? | 16:55 |
| jtv | intellectronica: let's! Thanks. | 16:55 |
| abentley | mars, this box was upgraded to lucid a while ago. What's new is I ran update-sourcecode for the first time (instead of rsyncing from devpad), and I think it deleted twisted. | 16:57 |
| abentley | mars, Okay, I went into pymodules and moved elisa out. That seems to have fixed it. | 16:59 |
| mrevell | sinzui, Hi! Has your branch changing the CSS files landed? | 17:00 |
| sinzui | It did | 17:00 |
| sinzui | mrevell, merge away | 17:00 |
| mrevell | thanks sinzui! | 17:00 |
| sinzui | mrevell, I just started a branch to move all colour rules. (this will fix an issue on edge). Does your branch move colours? | 17:01 |
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| mrevell | no sinzui | 17:01 |
| mars | abentley, :/ | 17:01 |
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| mars | abentley, ok, so that was a code isolation failure of some sort. Love to know where that came from. I'll keep an eye out for similar failures in the future. | 17:03 |
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| mars | gary_poster, jml, looking at the build-infrastructure list, and I am sorely tempted to use the Wishlist priority (much to sinzui's chagrin :) | 17:17 |
| jml | mars, priority schmiority -- all I care about is whether they are fixed or not :) | 17:17 |
| jml | mars, but which ones in particular? | 17:18 |
| gary_poster | mars, naah. your wishlist is somebody else's low. The question is what *you* do. Other people might tackle some of the other ones you think of as wishlist | 17:18 |
| mars | gary_poster, true true | 17:18 |
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| sinzui | mars, feature tag + low priority | 17:19 |
| mars | jml, anything that says "make it ...", "want", or "should" would be fair game | 17:19 |
| mars | jml, faults first, improvements after | 17:20 |
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| jml | mars, I agree with the second thing you said | 17:21 |
| mars | jml, sinzui, that really does describe the problem best: looking at this list of bugs, I do not know which are faults and which are features | 17:21 |
| sinzui | mars, :( My example of a bug is one where we know the rules, this situation violates the rules, so it is a bug. Otherwise this is a feature to introduce new behaviour. | 17:22 |
| mars | but then you end up with the semantic problems that Gary stated. Oh well. | 17:22 |
| sinzui | mars, I think that is an accidental great incite into triage. the semantics are really essential-now, important-next, useful-future | 17:25 |
| mars | sinzui, yes | 17:25 |
| sinzui | or insight | 17:25 |
| mars | sinzui, a fault is anything that keeps it from running today. Anything else is an improvement or feature. | 17:26 |
| mars | it becomes easy to decide the grey-area ones then | 17:26 |
| mars | "Buildbot should be public" - does that keep it from working today? No? Improvement! | 17:26 |
| mars | "Sanitize and document logins used in in pagetests" - Improvement | 17:27 |
| mars | "LaunchBag.developer is not updated when ftest login() is called" - probably a fault | 17:27 |
| sinzui | I distinguish priority 1 from 2 based on the severity of the blockage. severity 2 can be worked around, while 1 cannot | 17:27 |
| mars | interesting | 17:27 |
| sinzui | An example of that would be ec2 land is broken, but ec2 test with -s works | 17:28 |
| mars | right | 17:28 |
| mars | so I call that is a high priority fault | 17:29 |
| sinzui | I have rated items with work arounds are 1 because the solution requires arcane knowledge | 17:29 |
| mars | if there were no workaround, it would be critical | 17:29 |
| mars | hehe | 17:29 |
| mars | sinzui, I like your idea for three classifications. I'll see if I can work with that to prioritize. | 17:32 |
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| mars | flacoste, were the stylesheet problems on edge last week fixed? | 21:21 |
| flacoste | mars: yes | 21:29 |
| mars | flacoste, thanks. | 21:29 |
| mars | awe... sinzui, ping. | 21:30 |
| sinzui | hi mars | 21:31 |
| mars | hi sinzui, are the links to bug statuses on this page blue for you? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/570380 | 21:31 |
| mup | Bug #570380: ec2test sometimes hangs on the first windmill test <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/570380> | 21:31 |
| sinzui | mars, not in the branch I just pushed. | 21:33 |
| sinzui | do you want to review it? | 21:33 |
| mars | sinzui, I would not feel confident doing so | 21:33 |
| sinzui | mars: bug 570259 is the global issue | 21:33 |
| mup | Bug #570259: css colours are wrong after style sheet reorganisation <css> <launchpad-web:In Progress by sinzui> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/570259> | 21:33 |
| sinzui | mars, all the colours in the old style sheet (mostly enums) lost precedence when I moved the anchor rules to style 3.0 | 21:34 |
| mars | mwhudson, what do you think of this? https://dev.launchpad.net/Debugging/GDB | 21:53 |
| mars | mwhudson, I added a section for backtrace.py to the bottom. | 21:54 |
| mwhudson | mars: looks good, you don't need the .gdbinit file though | 21:56 |
| mars | mwhudson, oh, so "the .gdbinit should also work" was saying that backtrace.py does roughly the same thing as the GDB macros? | 21:56 |
| mwhudson | mars: yes | 21:57 |
| mars | mwhudson, updated | 21:59 |
| thumper | morning | 22:05 |
| mars | morning thumper | 22:06 |
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| mars | It would be nice to have an easy way to copy the short "http://launchpad.net/bugs/IIII" link, instead of having to type it out by hand. | 22:30 |
| * persia remembers an exceeding contentious change that removed just that feature | 22:30 | |
| persia | I believe the argument was that if a user was already on a page, there was no point in having a UI element that would link back to the *same* page, and people who wanted to copy could always do it from the location bar. | 22:32 |
| mars | persia, fair enough. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/570380 is not fun to copy-n-paste though :) | 22:37 |
| mup | Bug #570380: ec2test sometimes hangs on the first windmill test <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/570380> | 22:37 |
| mars | persia, I am also a fan of StackOverflow's titles: stackoverflow.com/QESTIONNUMBER/some-human-readable-question-title | 22:38 |
| persia | Worse yet, because of the embedded "edge" it fails completely to be useful for lots of folks. | 22:39 |
| mars | :) | 22:39 |
| persia | This is part of why the bugbots do what they do, so one can usually say bug #570380 and get a useful response. | 22:39 |
| mup | Bug #570380: ec2test sometimes hangs on the first windmill test <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/570380> | 22:39 |
| persia | Doesn't help so much with mail though. | 22:39 |
| jml | persia: the change I remember more is when we removed the non-linked bug number | 22:46 |
| jml | persia: which caused an outcry because there was no longer an easy way to copy-and-paste it. | 22:46 |
| * jml disappears | 22:47 | |
| wgrant | persia: Fails completely? edge works for everyone. | 22:51 |
| wgrant | (but yes, it's suboptimal) | 22:51 |
| persia | wgrant: Fails completely *to be useful* | 22:51 |
| persia | This isn't "fails completely" | 22:52 |
| persia | jml: I thought I remembered complaints about it changing both times (and yes, current behaviour matches very old behaviour) | 22:52 |
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