[00:12] <Phantomas> there is an error with bazaar
[00:12] <Phantomas> Internal Server Error
[00:20] <thumper> Phantomas: which url?
[00:25] <Phantomas> thumper: thanks, it works now
[00:25] <thumper> Phantomas: loggerhead has an issue sometimes loading the cache the first time a branch is accessed
[00:25] <thumper> Phantomas: it is a know problem, and being looked at
[00:28] <Phantomas> good! Thanks for the info :)
[09:26] <fale> hi
[09:26] <fale> it seems launchpad is having some trouble with bzr..
[09:31] <noodles775> fale: hi, in what respect? (I've just pushed some branches without an issue?)
[09:32] <fale> noodles775: mmm now it seems to work again, before asking the commits diffs it was returning Internal Server Error
[09:37] <maxb> There's definitely something wonky with loggerhead
[09:37] <maxb> Someone reported that http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sch-devs/sch-scripts/trunk/revision/109 was 500ing over the weekend, and it still is
[09:38] <fale> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/kubuntu-meta/lucid/revision/201 this still does not work :(
[09:39] <maxb> losa ping: Those loggerhead URLs are broken ^^^
[09:41] <mthaddon> loggerhead's recently been restarted and is responding fine to nagios - sounds like it's broken in some less obvious way than "everything is down"
[09:43] <wgrant> I haven't successfully viewed a revision in days.
[09:51] <Imperion> err, what's going on with the servers?
[09:51] <Imperion> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~catom-developers/catom/main/revision/46
[09:51] <Imperion> ^Internal Server Error
[09:59] <joaopinto> good morning, I have a spam problem with an LP mailinglist, where should I report it ?
[11:54] <marktheunissen> hi all
[11:54] <marktheunissen> is there anyone on duty to help? we're having "internal server error" issues on LP right now
[11:59] <marktheunissen> hello ... any launchpad staff members around?
[12:04] <marktheunissen> is anyone else having issues with Loggerhead / Launchpad right now?
[12:08] <maxb> Yes, they are.
[12:08] <marktheunissen> thanks
[12:10] <maxb> mthaddon: OK, it's not the usual problem, but it seems widespread and persistent. Can you provide some feedback on whether an investigation is under way? And maybe post a notice to the channel topic and identi.ca ?
[12:11] <mthaddon> maxb: I'll see if I can find someone to look into it and post a notice - sorry about that
[12:23] <knipwim> mthaddon: thx for the explanation, was wondering about it too
[13:43] <yml> hello goodmorning
[13:43] <yml> I have a quick question about vcs importer in launchpad.
[13:44] <yml> Does anyone knows where I should report the fact that django import has been broken for six days ?
[13:46] <maxb> ouch, looks like a weird cscvs error. That's black magic :-/
[13:52] <yml> maxb: yep
[13:53] <yml> maxb: do you know where I should report this issue ?
[14:06] <maxb> Normally I'd suggest asking the help contact's advice, but there doesn't appear to be one today
[14:10] <maxb> yml: Filing a question on launchpad-code would at least provide somewhere to track the issue
[14:11] <yml> maxb: there https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion ?
[14:11] <maxb> yes
[14:11] <yml> I will do this thanks for your guidance
[14:11] <maxb> I suspect the initial reaction will be "Could we try this import with bzr-svn instead of cscvs?"
[14:15] <maxb> yml: I created https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~maxb/django/trunk-bzr-svn (pending review by vcs-imports staff)
[14:16] <yml> maxb I have created a question
[14:16] <yml> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/108451
[14:17] <yml> let us see if anyone take action on it
[14:23] <jelmer> maxb: the URL in that import is invalid
[14:24] <maxb> ugh, I have been defeated by vhosts
[14:24] <maxb> LP sillyly refuses to have two imports from the same URL. Usually you can bypass it by fudging the hostname with an extra dot at the end
[14:25] <jml> maxb: it's a bit silly
[14:26] <maxb> Maybe you could remove the dot and just double one of the slashes in the path instead?
[14:26] <jml> maxb: I guess in an ideal world we'd point you to the existing import with the same URL, ask you if that's what you meant, and then let you import a fresh one
[14:26] <maxb> Or just let you create a new one
[14:27] <jml> maxb: I think that would give us problems we don't have today, even though it solves problems we do have
[14:27] <yml> jml: in this case the problem is that the existing one is stuck for 6 days :  https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/django/trunk
[14:28] <maxb> Given how hard it is to create an import (need to wait for review), I'd expect the incidence of duplicate creation to be very low - such that the effort of dealing with it would be less than the time investment in the UI flow you propose
[14:28] <jelmer> maxb: the goal is to remove the need for reviews though
[14:28] <jml> maxb: you shouldn't have to wait for a review, either!
[14:29] <humphreybc> Who's the Launchpad track lead for UDS?
[14:29] <jelmer> yml: please note that those two imports are incompatible, you can't just pull from the new one if you have a copy of the old one
[14:29] <jml> there's a Launchpad track at UDS?!
[14:29] <humphreybc> no idea
[14:30] <humphreybc> I just want to get this blueprint confirmed, or something
[14:30] <humphreybc> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/launchpad-translator-communication
[14:30] <jml> humphreybc: if there was, I'd probably be the lead, but I don't think there's a Launchpad track there.
[14:30] <humphreybc> right, who should I set as approver? Henning?
[14:30] <jml> humphreybc: danilo
[14:31] <jml> humphreybc: UDS is very much an Ubuntu thing, and we Launchpadders go along, to listen, to be told what to do and to explain why that will take longer than you think
[14:31] <humphreybc> heh
[14:31] <jml> humphreybc: actually, David Planella is probably the best person to approve that
[14:32] <humphreybc> okay
[14:32]  * humphreybc assigns dpm as approver 
[14:32] <henninge> humphreybc: there will be a Launchpad Translations roundtable/Q&A session. Maybe we can discuss that there?
[14:32] <humphreybc> henninge: yup, we could
[14:32] <yml> jelmer: are you telling me that the branch imported here : https://launchpad.net/django from django SVN
[14:32] <henninge> humphreybc: dpm is planning the translation-related sessions, yes.
[14:33] <humphreybc> we don't really have that much to say, just basically to give some feedback and then to suggest what improvements we'd like to see
[14:33] <yml> jelmer: is not going to work
[14:33] <humphreybc> (from what we've experienced)
[14:33] <humphreybc> almost doesn't warrant an entire session, I just don't want it to be forgotten
[14:34] <jelmer> yml: it's not going to be compatible with the branch maxb is rtying to import
[14:35] <yml> jelmer: I see but the fact that the import stop working in this particular branch is a bug, right ?
[14:36] <dpm> hey humphreybc, thanks for creating the blueprint. Sure, I can put it in the community track, as it is related to translations and communication with the community. We've prepared this wiki page with the translation sessions to have an overview before they are scheduled -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/UDS Feel free to add your session there. If you think it deserves a session, you can just add it to the list, with a link to the blueprint. If you th
[14:36] <dpm> ink it can go in the Launchpad Translations roundtable, please add it as a bullet point there.
[14:37] <jelmer> yml: yeah, although I'm not sure how much priority fixing bugs in the cscvs svn backend has these days
[14:37] <yml> jelmer: I see
[14:38] <humphreybc> dpm: I added it to that wiki
[14:39] <dpm> humphreybc, cool, thanks. I'll be working on them today and tomorrow.
[14:39] <humphreybc> neat
[14:39] <humphreybc> I've proposed like, 3 sessions and none of them seem to be going anywhere which is disappointing. They're all on fairly important topics, well, I think they are
[14:56] <dpm> humphreybc, if you get no response you'll have to ping the person responsible for the track your blueprint fits. If it's community-related, it's Jono, but you can ping-proxy me if I'm around :)
[14:58] <humphreybc> okay
[16:26] <coekie> hi, I'm trying to log in after a long time of not using my launchpad account (I even forgot I had one)
[16:27] <coekie> but I'm getting "Your account has been deactivated."
[16:27] <coekie> so I can't change my password (nor register a new account with the same email address).
[16:28] <coekie> why could it be deactivated, and how could I get it reactivate?
[16:28] <coekie> +d
[16:42] <coekie> oh, and my account email is wouter@coekaerts.be, in case someone in here can reactivate it...
[17:26] <chx> hi. if i put in a merge request, can that branch continue to exist and have more merge requests or one branch, one merge?
[17:44] <tomas_kaluza> Hello, I have a problem reporting a bug on launchpad
[17:44] <tomas_kaluza> No REFERER Header
[17:45] <tomas_kaluza> I do not know why. I have a standard instalation of firefox on 10.04
[17:45] <tomas_kaluza> can someone give me a hint?
[17:46] <maxb> Firefox should transmit a Referer header by default, so I can only assume you've turned it off somehow
[17:47] <tomas_kaluza> I did not touch a thing..
[17:47] <tomas_kaluza> :-(
[17:47] <tomas_kaluza> and the bug is in gwibber
[17:48] <tomas_kaluza> it does not start at all..
[17:48] <tomas_kaluza> only couple of days before the final release, quite sirious, I think..
[17:51] <tomas_kaluza> Could someone file the bug for me?
[18:33] <Brot1> is someone here who have experience with launchpads translation system?
[18:53] <Brot1> hello
[18:59] <Brot1> is someone here who have experience with launchpads translation system? I uploaded translation files to a project and some of the files are in "Needs review" state now. What's the next step?
[19:02] <beuno> Brot1, they will get reviewed
[19:02] <beuno> and then I think you're set from there on
[19:06] <Brot1> @bueno: how long does it take until they will get reviewed? I uploaded the files 4 days ago?!
[19:07] <beuno> Brot1, weekends are hard on these things, especially since Lucid is coming out on Thu, everyone's busy
[19:08] <Brot1> bueno: OK, thanks. I have to be more patient. Will wait until the files will get reviews
[19:10] <dpm> Brot1, if they do not get reviewed, please feel free to ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+addquestion. Which project did you upload the project to? Did you do the upload as a translator or as a maintainer?
[19:11] <Brot1> dpm: I did the upload as a maintainer: https://translations.launchpad.net/android-mileage/trunk/+imports?field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW
[19:14] <dpm> Brot1, ah, I see what happened, the imports do not comply with the import policy -> https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/ImportPolicy#Sample%20directory%20layout. You need to have a separate directory for each template and name the files ll.po, where ll is the 2-letter or 3-letter (plus country, if necessary) ISO 639 language code)
[19:15] <dpm> Brot1, furthermore, I'd recommend using automatic bzr imports for translations, which will make your life as a maintainer much easier
[19:18] <Brot1> dpm: yes, I read about the import policy, but it's hard to maintain the translations for android projects, because I have to convert between po/pot-files and the android-xml format. At the moment I found only one tool which can handle this.
[19:19] <Brot1> dpm: the problem is, that with this tool all po/pot-files are stored in one directory.
[19:19] <dpm> Brot1, you can use xml2po, which is compatible with the imports policy (which is not specific to Launchpad, but common to most translatable Open Source projects)
[19:20] <Brot1> dpm: there are other languages which are already imported: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/android-mileage/trunk/+imports?field.filter_status=IMPORTED
[19:21] <Brot1> dpm: xml2po only allows to convert from xml to po. But I couldn't manage the reverse convert from po to xml. But android2po manage this will: http://github.com/miracle2k/android2po
[19:22] <dpm> Brot1, have you read the xml2po man page? xml2po can be used in both directions. I have actually used in android's translations. Have the files you are converting a special xml format or something?
[19:23] <dpm> in any case, regardless of the tool you are using, it should be able to create a POT template per directory
[19:24] <dpm> xml2po can, and I could imagine android2po should be able to as well
[19:24] <Brot1> dpm: No, no special xml format. I tried xml2po and it doesn't work for me. There are other android projects using the same flat directory format: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tim-todoroo/astrid/2.x/files/head%3A/translations/
[19:25] <dpm> Brot1, the fact that are using it, doesn't mean that it works :) But let me check...
[19:26] <dpm> Brot1, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tim-todoroo/astrid/2.x/files/head%3A/translations/ will not work with Launchpad Translations, there you also need a separate folder for each POT file
[19:27] <dpm> Brot1, and I'd be curious as well, how exactly did xml2po not work for you? Did you get a bad conversion? Error messages?
[19:29] <Brot1> dpm: it generates unterminated strings, which leads to program errors and I couldn't manage to convert from po to xml
[19:30] <Brot1> dpm: and how does the translation for astrid works? https://translations.launchpad.net/astrid. Is there another branch from which the translations are read?
[19:31] <Brot1> dpm: and why wasn't it a problem to import other languages for my project? e.g: https://translations.launchpad.net/android-mileage/trunk/+lang/it
[19:34] <dpm> Brot1, hm, that's strange. It might be worth checking with the Launchpad developers tomorrow earlier in the day
[19:34] <dpm> (i.e. I wouldn't have expected them to get imported)
[19:35] <dpm> anyway, I must go now
[19:35] <Brot1> dpm: ok, thanks
[19:36] <dpm> np :) as I say, you might want to check with the LP translations devs tomorrow
[19:50] <coekie> can anyone help getting my account re-activated?
[21:21] <ubuntujenkins> in launchpad if i set up a branch here https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntujenkins can i make it so certain people apart from my sefl can commit? with out making a group
[21:22] <beuno> ubuntujenkins, no, you will need to create a team and change the owner for people to commit directy to a branch
[21:23] <ubuntujenkins> as i thought thanks beuno
[21:29] <bdrung> hi, can someone have a look at bug #567890? we cannot link the upstream bug report http://jira.atheme.org/browse/AUDPLUG-220
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> Hello I just started a launchpad project and was wondering if its possible to get the files hosted on there as well or do I need to get my own hosting? The ISO is under 5MB.
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> https://launchpad.net/multibootu
[22:34] <persia> LinuxGuy2009: You can upload files related to a given release, which is a special kind of milestone for a given series.
[22:34] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok so I need to add a milestone to be given the option to upload a file?
[22:34] <persia> I've never done this, but based on traffic, the UI is a bit confusing: it goes something like: define a series, define a milestone (checking a special box to indicate it's a release), attach the files to +download.
[22:34] <persia> Something like that.
[22:35] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok Ill give it a go. Thank you!
[22:36] <persia> I hope it works: LIke i said, I've never done it.  If it doesn't work, just ask again, and maybe someone more knowledgeable can answer.
[22:39] <beuno> persia, LinuxGuy2009, yes, you need to create a milestone and release it
[22:39] <beuno> then you can upload files to the release
[22:39] <LinuxGuy2009> cool Im doing that right this second.
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Got it all sorted guys, thank you so very much!
[23:16] <piju> hello how long it takes for my pkg to appear on my PPA after uploaded ?
[23:18] <piju> all bots ?
[23:25] <persia> No, just nobody with the answer has read your question.
[23:29] <tsimpson> the cron job runs every 20mins iirc, so at X:00, X:20, or X:40 where X is the hour
[23:33] <piju> tsimpson, tq
[23:35] <wgrant> piju, tsimpson: Every five minutes, actually.
[23:36] <piju> i wont see my pkg appear on my PPA yet
[23:36] <piju> wgrant, uploaded it using dput
[23:36] <piju> no error email
[23:37] <piju> https://launchpad.net/~mypiju/+archive/psk31lx-9w2pju doesnt appear at all
[23:40] <wgrant> piju: Did you sign it with your OpenPGP key?
[23:40] <piju> wgrant, no
[23:40] <piju> i sign it with gpg key
[23:40] <wgrant> gpg implements OpenPGP, so that's fine.
[23:41] <piju> i havent upload my pub keys to launchpad
[23:41] <wgrant> So you signed it with the key 0xFA97E259?
[23:41] <piju> is it ok ?
[23:41] <piju> no
[23:41] <piju> i sign with other key
[23:41] <piju> is it ok ?
[23:42] <wgrant> 0xFA97E259 is associated with your Launchpad account. If you're not using that key any more, you should remove it and add your new one.
[23:42] <wgrant> If you then upload again, it is less unlikely to work.
[23:43] <piju> how can i change my key ?
[23:45] <wgrant> piju: Click on your name in the top right of a Launchpad page, and click the edit link next to the OpenPGP Keys section.
[23:48] <donri> How to I make a project a parent of another?
[23:48] <persia> donri: needs a question to do that, and a well-argued rationale
[23:49] <donri> Oh. :(
[23:49] <wgrant> Also, it doesn't quite work like that.
[23:49] <wgrant> Project groups and projects are separate entities.
[23:49] <persia> It doesn't?
[23:49] <persia> Ah.
[23:49] <wgrant> A project group can have projects in it, but not bugs/branches/etc. of its own.
[23:50] <persia> Now I'm confused.  I thought "launchpad" was a project group, but it has it's own bugs.
[23:51] <persia> "unr" also has it's own bugs, but a list of projects associated with it.
[23:52] <wgrant> launchpad-project is a project group. launchpad, soyuz, malone etc. are members of the launchpad-project project group. Contrary to the suggestion in its name, launchpad-project is not, in fact, a project.
[23:52] <persia> Ah, "launchpad" != "launchpad-project"
[23:52] <wgrant> unr is a project group. It has no bugs of its own.
[23:52] <persia> https://launchpad.net/unr/+bugs still confuses me though.
[23:53] <persia> Is it just an aggregation of all the bugs in the underlying projects?
[23:53] <wgrant> Right.
[23:53] <wgrant> Those pages are just aggregations.
[23:55] <persia> OK.  This makes more sense now.
[23:55] <persia> Thanks for the explanantion.