[09:19] <zniavre> good morning
[09:21] <zniavre> im looking for the first version of ubuntu-mono do you think i can find them again ?
[10:11] <sanderqd> zniavre_, try finding the bzr branch in launchpad, it should contain the full package history
[10:44] <zniavre> i can see the full changelog but not the full archive of packages
[11:35] <vish> zniavre: get it from the bzr branch , it is there in the packagers branch
[11:37] <vish> zniavre: you have to pull on that rev.. bzr branch lp:blahblah -r 4
[11:37] <vish> rather ..   lp:~ubuntu-art-pkg/+junk/ubuntu-mono
[11:50] <zniavre> grrrr i must be dumb ....
[11:50] <zniavre> in fact i just want the first "enveloppe"
[11:51] <vish> zniavre: just do $ bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-art-pkg/+junk/ubuntu-mono -r 1
[11:53] <zniavre> Ho ho ho   big thank you
[11:53] <zniavre> :o)
[11:53] <vish> np.. :)
[12:16] <darkmatter> vish: gonna have an improved wip in a sec. I art killing some useless bits in the sidebar. gonna keep bookmarks/library and history (maybe tags.. dunno) drop in computer, network and home as simple links.
[12:25] <vish> darkmatter: a quick mockup of the toolbar icons i was mentioning earlier.. > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/icons.png  basically, drop the use of shadows and kill the depth perspective  .. probably use symbolic icons instead
[12:26] <vish> heh , we could consider using "box" buttons, but then we'd end up with a copy of Finder ;p
[12:26] <darkmatter> vish: yeah. it's the same thing I was talking about as well. not necessarily symbolic as such, but glyphic none the less
[12:28] <vish> we need to kill the shadow for toolbar icons!
[12:29] <darkmatter> I think icons in the traditional sense could be dropped for everything except applications and a 'few' data types where there isn't really any other solution. things like music, video, documents could use thumbnails, album art, etc. it's also a matter of how we display them to the user
[12:31] <darkmatter> vish: that's why I opt for 'Library' instead of places. we need view based on content. images in a galler, media in a 'media browser' view (for a lack of a better term) etc
[12:32]  * vish bbiab
[12:32] <darkmatter> and go less hierarchical, more nom with basic displays as well. kill the traditional icon view and do something a bit more hybrid
[13:34] <kwwii> vish: hey, I assigned a bug to you about humanity volume icons
[13:37] <kwwii> bug #570124
[14:45]  * vish looks
[14:46] <vish> kwwii: hehe , that was the change that was done for the sound menu specs ;p
[14:46]  * vish glad to revert
[15:11] <darkmatter> vish: yay or nay? http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4972/nautilusredowip.png
[15:13] <kwwii> vish: it is about the placement of the icon on the page in comparison to the others
[15:21] <vish> !test
[15:21] <vish> bah!
[15:22] <vish> darkmatter: maybe the bookmarks can be the lower
[15:23] <vish> darkmatter: hehe , btw , you've misaligned the keyboard in the computer ;p
[15:23] <darkmatter> vish: did not! the g-i-t guys did!
[15:25] <vish> darkmatter: huh, right!
[15:46] <merbit> hello, is there an alternative font of the new ubuntu logo I could use, until the font is released?
[15:50] <kwwii> merbit: nope, the font is not ready yet and won't be for some time
[15:51] <merbit> ok thanks :)
[15:51] <vish> kwwii: can you add it to the topic?
[15:51] <kwwii> vish: yes, good idea
[15:54] <merbit> I bet you get that question a lot, hehe
[15:54] <vish> merbit: everyday ;)
[16:03] <knome> yup, 9 days in a week somebody comes asking that.
[16:06] <darkmatter> vish: I'm trying to decide if the 'Home' in the sidebar is overly redundant, since it's in the pathbar too... hmmm. As for the general layout decision, the rational is Personal > System, which is why I stuck computer, network, and trash under everything else
[16:12] <vish> darkmatter: home redundant duplications..? yes ;)
[16:17]  * vish recalls a time when even knome was asking.. but atleast it was for a distribution release :)
[16:17] <merbit> :P
[16:18] <knome> vish, that was because i was promised some stuff by canonical employees ;P
[17:23] <thorwil> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AldoLatino/UbuntuLogo
[17:27] <kwwii> thorwil: hrm, that sucks but to be honest, the logos and stuff are nearly ready (as in we are proofing the information now for mistakes)
[17:27] <kwwii> so we'll be pushing the real stuff out in the next couple of days anyway
[17:28] <thorwil> kwwii: of course it sucks. if i wasn't such a kind soul, i could claim you guys where asking for it ;)
[17:28] <kwwii> thorwil: lol, indeed
[17:28] <thorwil> the link to that page came form ubuntu-marketing list
[17:28] <kwwii> next time we completely change things we'll do a bit better
[17:30] <thorwil> cool. only a few complete changes until there will be a smooth one :)
[18:33] <darkmatter> vish: sidebar looks much better now http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8093/nautilusredowip1.png
[18:45]  * vish groans at banshee 
[18:46] <vish> darkmatter: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qg0qAwZ_-N8/S9QGemTuV_I/AAAAAAAAAD8/6yAmxEJeFPc/s1600/explorer.jpg ;)
[18:48] <darkmatter> what about explorer? don't make me hurt you vitch :P
[18:48] <vish> darkmatter: hehe , not that it is wrong to look similar to explorer, but you effectively ended up with that [except for the history ofcourse ;p]
[18:49] <darkmatter> vish: actually I ended up with the london wireframe mockups with a prettier sidebar. so die :P
[18:50] <vish> darkmatter: admit it! you are now a Windows fanboy ;p
[18:51] <darkmatter> bite. something. old. and. stale. and. die. ;p
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