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pittiGood morning06:00
desrtpitti: hi hi06:02
pittihey desrt, how are you?06:02
desrtpretty decent06:02
* pitti waves from Munich06:03
desrtyou're just visiting, i guess?06:03
desrtor passing through their lovely airport?06:03
pittidesrt: my wife does an internship over the summer here06:04
pittiso I visit her for a week before going on to Belgium06:05
desrtpre-UDS allhands?06:05
pittiyes, "somehands" :)06:05
pittiand visiting some friends in Belgium before that06:05
desrtoh.  that's good.06:05
desrtallhands were starting to get out of .. uh.. hand06:05
pittiheh06:06
desrtthe schedule seems really really tight this time06:06
desrtlike the "somehands" coming just a week after release06:07
pittiyeah, not much time for merging etc. before06:08
desrti guess lucid is really really frozen at this point06:08
pittiit ought to be, anyway06:09
* desrt has a stupid little "bug" fix06:09
pittihttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= looks otherwise, though :)06:09
desrthuh06:09
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didrocksgood morning!08:17
pittihey didrocks, bonjour08:53
didrocksGuten Morgen pitti. So, enjoying your Munich accomodation? ;)08:54
pittididrocks: yes, the weekend was great08:54
pittiwe went out to see the city, it was marvellous sunny and warm weather08:54
pittiI just have used to get up at 6 :)08:55
pittibut I just went for half an hour of running08:55
didrocksoh, your wife as to get up early for her internship?08:55
pittiyes08:55
* pitti smiles as he notices that the French don't only omit the 'h' when speaking, but also when writing08:55
didrocksis it away from your flat?08:55
* pitti hugs didrocks08:55
* didrocks hugs pitti and grrrrr at me :)08:56
pittididrocks: yes, about 45 mins (bicycle/20 min S-Bahn/bicycle)08:56
didrocksoh, quite long :/08:56
didrocksat least, you can do some sport in the morning to wake up before working08:57
pittiright, and it's nice to have gotten through two hours of work before breakfast :)08:57
pittispeaking of which, /me grabs some cereals, brb08:57
huatsmorning08:58
didrockspitti: enjoy!08:58
didrockshey *h*uats08:58
seb128hey didrocks, pitti09:00
seb128hey huats09:00
didrockssalut seb128, bon week-end?09:00
huatshelo seb12809:00
seb128didrocks, oui, et toi?09:01
didrocksseb128: oui, vraiment reposant et déconnecté, ça fait du bien :)09:02
pittibonjour seb12809:02
pittididrocks: the fun thing here is, they have an unbelievable bandwidth here :) I pull 2.5 MB/s from de.archive :)09:11
didrockspitti: that's one of the advantage of being in a big city, I guess :)09:13
seb128let's assign all the DVD isos testing to pitti now ;-)09:13
didrocksheh :)09:13
pittiseb128: I thoughtfully forgot to bring my CD drive, though :)09:18
seb128pitti, luckily we have kvm too ;-)09:22
pittiand USB sticks09:22
seb128pitti, and you can record dvd iso to an usb stick09:22
seb128;-)09:22
chrisccoulsonhello everyone10:14
pittihey chrisccoulson10:14
chrisccoulsonhey pitti, how are you?10:14
pittiI'm great, thanks!10:14
baptistemmheya10:42
baptistemmhmm, such good weather today, It's seems summer is already here10:43
chrisccoulsonheh, it's dull weather here ;)10:45
chrisccoulsonbut that's normal10:45
didrockshey chrisccoulson, baptistemm10:45
chrisccoulsonhey didrocks, how are you?10:46
didrockschrisccoulson: I'm good, as the weather here :) you?10:46
chrisccoulsondidrocks, yeah, not too bad thanks. i'm trying to fix my desktop though after upgrading it to lucid last night10:46
didrocks(report bugs!)10:49
chrisccoulsondidrocks - when i figure out where the bugs are ;)10:50
didrockssure :)10:50
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kenvandinegood morning all13:41
kenvandineseb128, can you sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/xchat-indicator/ubuntu ?13:42
kenvandinefixes a crasher13:42
seb128hey kenvandine13:42
seb128ok13:42
kenvandinethx13:45
pittihey kenvandine14:04
kenvandinehey pitti14:04
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rickspencer3pitti, what's the word on the street? how's the release looking?14:31
pittihey rickspencer314:33
pittirickspencer3: seems to be "business as usual" AFAICS; we had quite a few updates over the weekend and today, but now the unapproved queue is finally empty14:34
rickspencer3nice14:34
pittinew images are being built right now14:34
rickspencer3any reports back about the glx rollback?14:34
pittirickspencer3: the i845/i855 support got shaken around, though14:34
rickspencer3?14:35
pittirickspencer3: I didn't hear any on either the bug report or the wiki page14:35
rickspencer3stupid -intel14:35
pittirickspencer3: two weeks ago we disabled DRI (i. e. 3D) on those chipsets in an attempt to work around instability14:35
rickspencer3right14:35
pittibut now they just created different kinds of instability, so we turned it back on14:35
rickspencer3right14:35
rickspencer3next version we support them with VESA14:35
pittirickspencer3: what do you need more than a VT100..14:37
kenvandinehehe14:37
pittiquick, seb128, upload gtk-curses14:38
kenvandine:)14:38
didrocksand rebase the installer on it too? ;)14:38
seb128pitti, dapper-get-ride-of-the-desktop-spec? ;-)14:41
seb128or whatever Ubuntu it was by then ;-)14:41
seb128hey rickspencer314:41
pittiI'm out for an hour for some errands15:15
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NafaiGood morning16:25
didrockshey Nafai, did you have a good week-end?16:26
NafaiYup, you?16:26
didrocksyeah, perfectly resting one :)16:27
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seb128mvo, hey16:37
seb128mvo, be warned I will try to push you to convert your software to gtkbuilder next cycle ;-)16:37
didrocksseb128: why do you say "try"? :p16:38
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seb128didrocks, because you don't want to make mvo angry so you need to be nice with him still ;-)16:39
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mvoseb128: what is left? only synpatic, right?16:41
mvoseb128: and that is only left because the convert script is/was doing a bad job ;)16:41
mvoseb128: we can talk in a bit, gtg for dinner16:41
seb128mvo, hum, bug #40353816:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 403538 in software-properties "Should use GtkBuilder rather than libglade" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40353816:41
mvomight be a leftover, let me check in a bit16:41
seb128mvo, waiting for review since before karmic16:42
seb128mvo, dpkg -L indicates it still install .glade files16:42
mvoseb128: yeah, looks like a leftover16:42
mvoseb128: still not glade16:42
mvoseb128: but should be trivial to port :)16:42
seb128mvo, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gtkbuilder16:43
seb128mvo, apturl too16:43
seb128mvo, half of the 6 remainings ones are yours ;-)16:43
* seb128 hugs mvo16:43
mvook16:44
seb128mvo, I might have a go to apturl this week16:45
cjwatsonanyone mind if I work on bug 569837?  it looks fairly straightforward16:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 569837 in telepathy-glib "fails to build from source: telepathy-glib" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56983716:53
seb128cjwatson, looking16:54
cjwatsonseems to be a matter of adding some lines to telepathy-glib-sections.txt16:54
seb128cjwatson, I'm a bit puzzled about why the same version built fine and breaks now16:55
cjwatsontriggered by gtk-doc now actually generating that -unused file16:55
seb128oh ok16:55
seb128that would explain16:55
cjwatsonthough that's odd, at least some of those symbols are already in telepathy-glib-sections.txt16:56
seb128cjwatson, I think I will go with what debian did, http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/telepathy-glib/news/20100405T230138Z.html16:56
cjwatsondoes it care about having the parenthesised bit there?16:57
cjwatsonok, but can we just have that as a patch rather than the whole new upstream?16:57
cjwatsonultimately the wrong fix, but ...16:57
seb128cjwatson, yes sure, I don't intend to upgrade to 0.1116:57
seb128right, the wrong way but will be easier that starting to write documentation now16:58
cjwatsonok, I didn't think it actually needed real extra doc but whatever you think best :)17:01
cjwatsoncan you upload that ASAP, then, and we'll get it reviewed - we have a respin on the way anyway and want to take the opportunity to sort out recent build failure reports17:01
seb128cjwatson, I'm on it17:04
cjwatsonthanks17:05
seb128cjwatson, uploaded, I did the same than upstream on http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-glib.git;a=commitdiff;h=a980309f0ab1f1f8a94444c82cc1539c11ec73f817:14
* kenvandine -> lunch17:15
seb128cjwatson, it's easier than trying to fix the check since it seems the issue is not the documentation but the checking code there17:16
cjwatsonI'm fine with that diff17:17
seb128cjwatson, wait17:18
seb128cjwatson, ok, build finished there, I had a doubt I forget another change in the .in but seems not17:20
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seb128cjwatson, sorry there was another line that should have been dropped, did that in a new revision, the previous one did build but I would prefer if you could accept the new one too17:26
cjwatsonseb128: ok, done17:29
seb128cjwatson, thanks and sorry again for the double upload ;-)17:30
cjwatsonnot the end of the world, didn't waste any publisher time in practice I think17:30
seb128good17:30
seb128gra, who is guy who opens a bug for uploading new translation export imports for each source having a .policy now?17:34
seb128dpm, ^ do you know about that?17:34
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seb128didrocks, still there?17:40
didrocksseb128: yeah, what's up?17:40
seb128didrocks, hey ;-) how are you?17:40
didrocksseb128: I'm fine. Seems like I'm catching a cold though (thank you Julie!)17:41
seb128didrocks, do you think you could review and sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/xchat-indicator/ubuntu today?17:41
seb128didrocks, I said I would so it and I forgot and I'm in a bit in a hurry to finish some stuff now before sport17:41
seb128didrocks, it should be fairly easy17:41
didrocksseb128: sure, directly on ubuntu or -proposed (there is still an opened window for universe?)17:41
seb128didrocks, ubuntu17:41
didrocksok, cool, will do :)17:41
seb128didrocks, 'ci17:41
didrocksseb128: de rien, bon sport ;)17:42
seb128didrocks, good luck with the cold, don't go to bed to late!17:42
didrocksseb128: thanks, I won't this time :)17:42
seb128didrocks, and make sure to sort that cold issue before next week17:42
seb128didrocks, I will not open the door if you come with a ubuflu ;-)17:42
didrocksseb128: that's my goal :)17:42
* seb128 hugs didrocks17:43
seb128thanks17:43
* didrocks hugs seb12817:43
dpmseb128, yeah, that's kelemengabor, he's one of our most active translators and coordinates the Hungarian team, both on GNOME and Ubuntu, you'll get to know him at UDS :) He basically filed all bugs for the table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline, so that translations are exported. He's aware that this won't happen for release, but wanted to make sure the bugs are filed to reuse them in the future as a reminder for the expor17:43
dpmts to be done17:43
* seb128 goes back to finish what he was doing before sport17:43
seb128dpm, I've closed those I received now17:43
seb128dpm, I'm not wanting to maintain launchpad export for all those source only for a .policy string17:43
seb128dpm, not to mention that the bug spam made me a bit unhappy about how it was done too17:44
dpmseb128, ok, I'll tell him about that. He was just trying to help in trying that all translations were used, and he talked to me before, sorry about the spam17:45
seb128that's ok17:45
seb128we might want to discuss that at UDS17:46
seb128but I don't like much the cost of having to carry translation export in all those sources17:46
seb128we should discuss making polkit use gettext17:46
pitticd17:47
seb128dpm, it took me basically half an hour by source to do the export, import game when I did it previously because you need to update LINGUAS by hand too etc17:47
seb128pitti, $17:47
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dpmseb128, yeah, I realise it's hard work (and I thank you for having done the exports in other packages!), so I'd be really happy to talk about polkit using gettext at UDS. I'm not sure it warrants a whole session, but I can fit it into a roundtable or schedule a generic Desktop-Translations session to discuss any other issues. Actually, I think the latter might be best if there are other things, what do you think?17:51
seb128dpm, if you have issues to discuss I'm happy to join a desktop translation session17:52
didrockskenvandine: forgot bzr add? :)17:52
didrockskenvandine: your commit only contain the debian/changelog change :)17:52
seb128didrocks, it's debian dir in bzr only?17:52
seb128didrocks, it bzr-buildpackage will download the tarball?17:52
dpmcool, I'll see if I can come up with something by tomorrow, and I'll let you know17:52
seb128dpm, otherwise we can just take it as an action item to work on17:53
didrocksseb128: right, oh, you mean, the fix is the new upstream version, my bad17:53
seb128it = using getting for polkit strings17:53
seb128didrocks, right17:53
didrocksseb128: yeah, should have seen that with the revision number, let's blame the cold :)17:53
dpmseb128, let me think until tomorrow if there are other things that warrant a session. Otherwise, if it's as "easy" as adding an action item, I'd be happy with that.17:54
seb128dpm, ok, I'm fine either way, let me know if we need a session or if out of session corridor discussions are enough17:55
dpmseb128, ok, I want to wrap up the translations session tomorrow, so I'll come back to you then17:56
* dpm hugs seb12817:56
* seb128 hugs dpm17:57
kenvandinedidrocks,  :)17:59
didrockskenvandine: sorry for the wrong ping ;)18:00
kenvandinedidrocks, no worries18:02
Nafailunch18:39
baptistemm_hello19:16
pittiseb128: :)19:25
didrockshave a good evening/night everyone!19:36
pittigood night everyone19:45
pittino CDs still, so I'll get up early and start testing at 7 :)19:45
chrisccoulsoni've finally got lucid working properly on my desktop :)19:52
Nafaiyay20:30
dobeyhmm20:43
Nafaitaking a bit of a break, bbl22:18
RAOFOh.  *That's* why there was nothing in here.23:40
RAOFMorning all!23:40
ccheneyheh23:41
ccheneyRAOF: got kicked out of the channel somehow i presume?23:41
RAOFPossibly just didn't reconnect properly after one of the (many) times I needed to reset the router.23:41
ccheneyyea23:42
ccheneyi've had that happen pretty often, bip usually tells me when it does so i have a red lit up message from it :)23:43
ccheneyi just started my wife's system upgrade to lucid and noticed nm dies in the middle of the upgrade so there won't be any net access until it can reboot :-\23:44
TheMusoGood morning.,23:48
RAOFGood morning TheMuso!  I trust that your public holiday was pleasant?23:49
TheMusoRAOF: Indeed it was. Finally some nice weather in Sydney too, which made it better.23:49
TheMusoRAOF: Did Tassi have a public holiday?23:49
RAOFTheMuso: No.  I think we're the only state without the long weekend?23:50
TheMusoRAOF: Ah that sucks. Interestingly enough, I originally read that NSW didn't have a public holiday, until I was pointed at the Industrial Relations public holiday site.23:51

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