[06:00] Good morning [06:02] pitti: hi hi [06:02] hey desrt, how are you? [06:02] pretty decent [06:03] * pitti waves from Munich [06:03] you're just visiting, i guess? [06:03] or passing through their lovely airport? [06:04] desrt: my wife does an internship over the summer here [06:05] so I visit her for a week before going on to Belgium [06:05] pre-UDS allhands? [06:05] yes, "somehands" :) [06:05] and visiting some friends in Belgium before that [06:05] oh. that's good. [06:05] allhands were starting to get out of .. uh.. hand [06:06] heh [06:06] the schedule seems really really tight this time [06:07] like the "somehands" coming just a week after release [06:08] yeah, not much time for merging etc. before [06:08] i guess lucid is really really frozen at this point [06:09] it ought to be, anyway [06:09] * desrt has a stupid little "bug" fix [06:09] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= looks otherwise, though :) [06:09] huh === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [08:17] good morning! [08:53] hey didrocks, bonjour [08:54] Guten Morgen pitti. So, enjoying your Munich accomodation? ;) [08:54] didrocks: yes, the weekend was great [08:54] we went out to see the city, it was marvellous sunny and warm weather [08:55] I just have used to get up at 6 :) [08:55] but I just went for half an hour of running [08:55] oh, your wife as to get up early for her internship? [08:55] yes [08:55] * pitti smiles as he notices that the French don't only omit the 'h' when speaking, but also when writing [08:55] is it away from your flat? [08:55] * pitti hugs didrocks [08:56] * didrocks hugs pitti and grrrrr at me :) [08:56] didrocks: yes, about 45 mins (bicycle/20 min S-Bahn/bicycle) [08:56] oh, quite long :/ [08:57] at least, you can do some sport in the morning to wake up before working [08:57] right, and it's nice to have gotten through two hours of work before breakfast :) [08:57] speaking of which, /me grabs some cereals, brb [08:58] morning [08:58] pitti: enjoy! [08:58] hey *h*uats [09:00] hey didrocks, pitti [09:00] hey huats [09:00] salut seb128, bon week-end? [09:00] helo seb128 [09:01] didrocks, oui, et toi? [09:02] seb128: oui, vraiment reposant et déconnecté, ça fait du bien :) [09:02] bonjour seb128 [09:11] didrocks: the fun thing here is, they have an unbelievable bandwidth here :) I pull 2.5 MB/s from de.archive :) [09:13] pitti: that's one of the advantage of being in a big city, I guess :) [09:13] let's assign all the DVD isos testing to pitti now ;-) [09:13] heh :) [09:18] seb128: I thoughtfully forgot to bring my CD drive, though :) [09:22] pitti, luckily we have kvm too ;-) [09:22] and USB sticks [09:22] pitti, and you can record dvd iso to an usb stick [09:22] ;-) [10:14] hello everyone [10:14] hey chrisccoulson [10:14] hey pitti, how are you? [10:14] I'm great, thanks! [10:42] heya [10:43] hmm, such good weather today, It's seems summer is already here [10:45] heh, it's dull weather here ;) [10:45] but that's normal [10:45] hey chrisccoulson, baptistemm [10:46] hey didrocks, how are you? [10:46] chrisccoulson: I'm good, as the weather here :) you? [10:46] didrocks, yeah, not too bad thanks. i'm trying to fix my desktop though after upgrading it to lucid last night [10:49] (report bugs!) [10:50] didrocks - when i figure out where the bugs are ;) [10:50] sure :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:41] good morning all [13:42] seb128, can you sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/xchat-indicator/ubuntu ? [13:42] fixes a crasher [13:42] hey kenvandine [13:42] ok [13:45] thx [14:04] hey kenvandine [14:04] hey pitti === pedro__ is now known as pedro_ [14:31] pitti, what's the word on the street? how's the release looking? [14:33] hey rickspencer3 [14:34] rickspencer3: seems to be "business as usual" AFAICS; we had quite a few updates over the weekend and today, but now the unapproved queue is finally empty [14:34] nice [14:34] new images are being built right now [14:34] any reports back about the glx rollback? [14:34] rickspencer3: the i845/i855 support got shaken around, though [14:35] ? [14:35] rickspencer3: I didn't hear any on either the bug report or the wiki page [14:35] stupid -intel [14:35] rickspencer3: two weeks ago we disabled DRI (i. e. 3D) on those chipsets in an attempt to work around instability [14:35] right [14:35] but now they just created different kinds of instability, so we turned it back on [14:35] right [14:35] next version we support them with VESA [14:37] rickspencer3: what do you need more than a VT100.. [14:37] hehe [14:38] quick, seb128, upload gtk-curses [14:38] :) [14:38] and rebase the installer on it too? ;) [14:41] pitti, dapper-get-ride-of-the-desktop-spec? ;-) [14:41] or whatever Ubuntu it was by then ;-) [14:41] hey rickspencer3 [15:15] I'm out for an hour for some errands === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [16:25] Good morning [16:26] hey Nafai, did you have a good week-end? [16:26] Yup, you? [16:27] yeah, perfectly resting one :) === vish is now known as Vish [16:37] mvo, hey [16:37] mvo, be warned I will try to push you to convert your software to gtkbuilder next cycle ;-) [16:38] seb128: why do you say "try"? :p === Vish is now known as vish [16:39] didrocks, because you don't want to make mvo angry so you need to be nice with him still ;-) === vish is now known as Vish [16:41] seb128: what is left? only synpatic, right? [16:41] seb128: and that is only left because the convert script is/was doing a bad job ;) [16:41] seb128: we can talk in a bit, gtg for dinner [16:41] mvo, hum, bug #403538 [16:41] Launchpad bug 403538 in software-properties "Should use GtkBuilder rather than libglade" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403538 [16:41] might be a leftover, let me check in a bit [16:42] mvo, waiting for review since before karmic [16:42] mvo, dpkg -L indicates it still install .glade files [16:42] seb128: yeah, looks like a leftover [16:42] seb128: still not glade [16:42] seb128: but should be trivial to port :) [16:43] mvo, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gtkbuilder [16:43] mvo, apturl too [16:43] mvo, half of the 6 remainings ones are yours ;-) [16:43] * seb128 hugs mvo [16:44] ok [16:45] mvo, I might have a go to apturl this week [16:53] anyone mind if I work on bug 569837? it looks fairly straightforward [16:53] Launchpad bug 569837 in telepathy-glib "fails to build from source: telepathy-glib" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569837 [16:54] cjwatson, looking [16:54] seems to be a matter of adding some lines to telepathy-glib-sections.txt [16:55] cjwatson, I'm a bit puzzled about why the same version built fine and breaks now [16:55] triggered by gtk-doc now actually generating that -unused file [16:55] oh ok [16:55] that would explain [16:56] though that's odd, at least some of those symbols are already in telepathy-glib-sections.txt [16:56] cjwatson, I think I will go with what debian did, http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/telepathy-glib/news/20100405T230138Z.html [16:57] does it care about having the parenthesised bit there? [16:57] ok, but can we just have that as a patch rather than the whole new upstream? [16:57] ultimately the wrong fix, but ... [16:57] cjwatson, yes sure, I don't intend to upgrade to 0.11 [16:58] right, the wrong way but will be easier that starting to write documentation now [17:01] ok, I didn't think it actually needed real extra doc but whatever you think best :) [17:01] can you upload that ASAP, then, and we'll get it reviewed - we have a respin on the way anyway and want to take the opportunity to sort out recent build failure reports [17:04] cjwatson, I'm on it [17:05] thanks [17:14] cjwatson, uploaded, I did the same than upstream on http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-glib.git;a=commitdiff;h=a980309f0ab1f1f8a94444c82cc1539c11ec73f8 [17:15] * kenvandine -> lunch [17:16] cjwatson, it's easier than trying to fix the check since it seems the issue is not the documentation but the checking code there [17:17] I'm fine with that diff [17:18] cjwatson, wait [17:20] cjwatson, ok, build finished there, I had a doubt I forget another change in the .in but seems not === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [17:26] cjwatson, sorry there was another line that should have been dropped, did that in a new revision, the previous one did build but I would prefer if you could accept the new one too [17:29] seb128: ok, done [17:30] cjwatson, thanks and sorry again for the double upload ;-) [17:30] not the end of the world, didn't waste any publisher time in practice I think [17:30] good [17:34] gra, who is guy who opens a bug for uploading new translation export imports for each source having a .policy now? [17:34] dpm, ^ do you know about that? === cypher_ is now known as czajkowski [17:40] didrocks, still there? [17:40] seb128: yeah, what's up? [17:40] didrocks, hey ;-) how are you? [17:41] seb128: I'm fine. Seems like I'm catching a cold though (thank you Julie!) [17:41] didrocks, do you think you could review and sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/xchat-indicator/ubuntu today? [17:41] didrocks, I said I would so it and I forgot and I'm in a bit in a hurry to finish some stuff now before sport [17:41] didrocks, it should be fairly easy [17:41] seb128: sure, directly on ubuntu or -proposed (there is still an opened window for universe?) [17:41] didrocks, ubuntu [17:41] ok, cool, will do :) [17:41] didrocks, 'ci [17:42] seb128: de rien, bon sport ;) [17:42] didrocks, good luck with the cold, don't go to bed to late! [17:42] seb128: thanks, I won't this time :) [17:42] didrocks, and make sure to sort that cold issue before next week [17:42] didrocks, I will not open the door if you come with a ubuflu ;-) [17:42] seb128: that's my goal :) [17:43] * seb128 hugs didrocks [17:43] thanks [17:43] * didrocks hugs seb128 [17:43] seb128, yeah, that's kelemengabor, he's one of our most active translators and coordinates the Hungarian team, both on GNOME and Ubuntu, you'll get to know him at UDS :) He basically filed all bugs for the table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline, so that translations are exported. He's aware that this won't happen for release, but wanted to make sure the bugs are filed to reuse them in the future as a reminder for the expor [17:43] ts to be done [17:43] * seb128 goes back to finish what he was doing before sport [17:43] dpm, I've closed those I received now [17:43] dpm, I'm not wanting to maintain launchpad export for all those source only for a .policy string [17:44] dpm, not to mention that the bug spam made me a bit unhappy about how it was done too [17:45] seb128, ok, I'll tell him about that. He was just trying to help in trying that all translations were used, and he talked to me before, sorry about the spam [17:45] that's ok [17:46] we might want to discuss that at UDS [17:46] but I don't like much the cost of having to carry translation export in all those sources [17:46] we should discuss making polkit use gettext [17:47] cd [17:47] dpm, it took me basically half an hour by source to do the export, import game when I did it previously because you need to update LINGUAS by hand too etc [17:47] pitti, $ === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [17:51] seb128, yeah, I realise it's hard work (and I thank you for having done the exports in other packages!), so I'd be really happy to talk about polkit using gettext at UDS. I'm not sure it warrants a whole session, but I can fit it into a roundtable or schedule a generic Desktop-Translations session to discuss any other issues. Actually, I think the latter might be best if there are other things, what do you think? [17:52] dpm, if you have issues to discuss I'm happy to join a desktop translation session [17:52] kenvandine: forgot bzr add? :) [17:52] kenvandine: your commit only contain the debian/changelog change :) [17:52] didrocks, it's debian dir in bzr only? [17:52] didrocks, it bzr-buildpackage will download the tarball? [17:52] cool, I'll see if I can come up with something by tomorrow, and I'll let you know [17:53] dpm, otherwise we can just take it as an action item to work on [17:53] seb128: right, oh, you mean, the fix is the new upstream version, my bad [17:53] it = using getting for polkit strings [17:53] didrocks, right [17:53] seb128: yeah, should have seen that with the revision number, let's blame the cold :) [17:54] seb128, let me think until tomorrow if there are other things that warrant a session. Otherwise, if it's as "easy" as adding an action item, I'd be happy with that. [17:55] dpm, ok, I'm fine either way, let me know if we need a session or if out of session corridor discussions are enough [17:56] seb128, ok, I want to wrap up the translations session tomorrow, so I'll come back to you then [17:56] * dpm hugs seb128 [17:57] * seb128 hugs dpm [17:59] didrocks, :) [18:00] kenvandine: sorry for the wrong ping ;) [18:02] didrocks, no worries [18:39] lunch [19:16] hello [19:25] seb128: :) [19:36] have a good evening/night everyone! [19:45] good night everyone [19:45] no CDs still, so I'll get up early and start testing at 7 :) [19:52] i've finally got lucid working properly on my desktop :) [20:30] yay [20:43] hmm [22:18] taking a bit of a break, bbl [23:40] Oh. *That's* why there was nothing in here. [23:40] Morning all! [23:41] heh [23:41] RAOF: got kicked out of the channel somehow i presume? [23:41] Possibly just didn't reconnect properly after one of the (many) times I needed to reset the router. [23:42] yea [23:43] i've had that happen pretty often, bip usually tells me when it does so i have a red lit up message from it :) [23:44] i just started my wife's system upgrade to lucid and noticed nm dies in the middle of the upgrade so there won't be any net access until it can reboot :-\ [23:48] Good morning., [23:49] Good morning TheMuso! I trust that your public holiday was pleasant? [23:49] RAOF: Indeed it was. Finally some nice weather in Sydney too, which made it better. [23:49] RAOF: Did Tassi have a public holiday? [23:50] TheMuso: No. I think we're the only state without the long weekend? [23:51] RAOF: Ah that sucks. Interestingly enough, I originally read that NSW didn't have a public holiday, until I was pointed at the Industrial Relations public holiday site.