[06:00] <pitti> Good morning
[06:02] <desrt> pitti: hi hi
[06:02] <pitti> hey desrt, how are you?
[06:02] <desrt> pretty decent
[06:03]  * pitti waves from Munich
[06:03] <desrt> you're just visiting, i guess?
[06:03] <desrt> or passing through their lovely airport?
[06:04] <pitti> desrt: my wife does an internship over the summer here
[06:05] <pitti> so I visit her for a week before going on to Belgium
[06:05] <desrt> pre-UDS allhands?
[06:05] <pitti> yes, "somehands" :)
[06:05] <pitti> and visiting some friends in Belgium before that
[06:05] <desrt> oh.  that's good.
[06:05] <desrt> allhands were starting to get out of .. uh.. hand
[06:06] <pitti> heh
[06:06] <desrt> the schedule seems really really tight this time
[06:07] <desrt> like the "somehands" coming just a week after release
[06:08] <pitti> yeah, not much time for merging etc. before
[06:08] <desrt> i guess lucid is really really frozen at this point
[06:09] <pitti> it ought to be, anyway
[06:09]  * desrt has a stupid little "bug" fix
[06:09] <pitti> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= looks otherwise, though :)
[06:09] <desrt> huh
[08:17] <didrocks> good morning!
[08:53] <pitti> hey didrocks, bonjour
[08:54] <didrocks> Guten Morgen pitti. So, enjoying your Munich accomodation? ;)
[08:54] <pitti> didrocks: yes, the weekend was great
[08:54] <pitti> we went out to see the city, it was marvellous sunny and warm weather
[08:55] <pitti> I just have used to get up at 6 :)
[08:55] <pitti> but I just went for half an hour of running
[08:55] <didrocks> oh, your wife as to get up early for her internship?
[08:55] <pitti> yes
[08:55]  * pitti smiles as he notices that the French don't only omit the 'h' when speaking, but also when writing
[08:55] <didrocks> is it away from your flat?
[08:55]  * pitti hugs didrocks
[08:56]  * didrocks hugs pitti and grrrrr at me :)
[08:56] <pitti> didrocks: yes, about 45 mins (bicycle/20 min S-Bahn/bicycle)
[08:56] <didrocks> oh, quite long :/
[08:57] <didrocks> at least, you can do some sport in the morning to wake up before working
[08:57] <pitti> right, and it's nice to have gotten through two hours of work before breakfast :)
[08:57] <pitti> speaking of which, /me grabs some cereals, brb
[08:58] <huats> morning
[08:58] <didrocks> pitti: enjoy!
[08:58] <didrocks> hey *h*uats
[09:00] <seb128> hey didrocks, pitti
[09:00] <seb128> hey huats
[09:00] <didrocks> salut seb128, bon week-end?
[09:00] <huats> helo seb128
[09:01] <seb128> didrocks, oui, et toi?
[09:02] <didrocks> seb128: oui, vraiment reposant et déconnecté, ça fait du bien :)
[09:02] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[09:11] <pitti> didrocks: the fun thing here is, they have an unbelievable bandwidth here :) I pull 2.5 MB/s from de.archive :)
[09:13] <didrocks> pitti: that's one of the advantage of being in a big city, I guess :)
[09:13] <seb128> let's assign all the DVD isos testing to pitti now ;-)
[09:13] <didrocks> heh :)
[09:18] <pitti> seb128: I thoughtfully forgot to bring my CD drive, though :)
[09:22] <seb128> pitti, luckily we have kvm too ;-)
[09:22] <pitti> and USB sticks
[09:22] <seb128> pitti, and you can record dvd iso to an usb stick
[09:22] <seb128> ;-)
[10:14] <chrisccoulson> hello everyone
[10:14] <pitti> hey chrisccoulson
[10:14] <chrisccoulson> hey pitti, how are you?
[10:14] <pitti> I'm great, thanks!
[10:42] <baptistemm> heya
[10:43] <baptistemm> hmm, such good weather today, It's seems summer is already here
[10:45] <chrisccoulson> heh, it's dull weather here ;)
[10:45] <chrisccoulson> but that's normal
[10:45] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson, baptistemm
[10:46] <chrisccoulson> hey didrocks, how are you?
[10:46] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: I'm good, as the weather here :) you?
[10:46] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yeah, not too bad thanks. i'm trying to fix my desktop though after upgrading it to lucid last night
[10:49] <didrocks> (report bugs!)
[10:50] <chrisccoulson> didrocks - when i figure out where the bugs are ;)
[10:50] <didrocks> sure :)
[13:41] <kenvandine> good morning all
[13:42] <kenvandine> seb128, can you sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/xchat-indicator/ubuntu ?
[13:42] <kenvandine> fixes a crasher
[13:42] <seb128> hey kenvandine
[13:42] <seb128> ok
[13:45] <kenvandine> thx
[14:04] <pitti> hey kenvandine
[14:04] <kenvandine> hey pitti
[14:31] <rickspencer3> pitti, what's the word on the street? how's the release looking?
[14:33] <pitti> hey rickspencer3
[14:34] <pitti> rickspencer3: seems to be "business as usual" AFAICS; we had quite a few updates over the weekend and today, but now the unapproved queue is finally empty
[14:34] <rickspencer3> nice
[14:34] <pitti> new images are being built right now
[14:34] <rickspencer3> any reports back about the glx rollback?
[14:34] <pitti> rickspencer3: the i845/i855 support got shaken around, though
[14:35] <rickspencer3> ?
[14:35] <pitti> rickspencer3: I didn't hear any on either the bug report or the wiki page
[14:35] <rickspencer3> stupid -intel
[14:35] <pitti> rickspencer3: two weeks ago we disabled DRI (i. e. 3D) on those chipsets in an attempt to work around instability
[14:35] <rickspencer3> right
[14:35] <pitti> but now they just created different kinds of instability, so we turned it back on
[14:35] <rickspencer3> right
[14:35] <rickspencer3> next version we support them with VESA
[14:37] <pitti> rickspencer3: what do you need more than a VT100..
[14:37] <kenvandine> hehe
[14:38] <pitti> quick, seb128, upload gtk-curses
[14:38] <kenvandine> :)
[14:38] <didrocks> and rebase the installer on it too? ;)
[14:41] <seb128> pitti, dapper-get-ride-of-the-desktop-spec? ;-)
[14:41] <seb128> or whatever Ubuntu it was by then ;-)
[14:41] <seb128> hey rickspencer3
[15:15] <pitti> I'm out for an hour for some errands
[16:25] <Nafai> Good morning
[16:26] <didrocks> hey Nafai, did you have a good week-end?
[16:26] <Nafai> Yup, you?
[16:27] <didrocks> yeah, perfectly resting one :)
[16:37] <seb128> mvo, hey
[16:37] <seb128> mvo, be warned I will try to push you to convert your software to gtkbuilder next cycle ;-)
[16:38] <didrocks> seb128: why do you say "try"? :p
[16:39] <seb128> didrocks, because you don't want to make mvo angry so you need to be nice with him still ;-)
[16:41] <mvo> seb128: what is left? only synpatic, right?
[16:41] <mvo> seb128: and that is only left because the convert script is/was doing a bad job ;)
[16:41] <mvo> seb128: we can talk in a bit, gtg for dinner
[16:41] <seb128> mvo, hum, bug #403538
[16:41] <mvo> might be a leftover, let me check in a bit
[16:42] <seb128> mvo, waiting for review since before karmic
[16:42] <seb128> mvo, dpkg -L indicates it still install .glade files
[16:42] <mvo> seb128: yeah, looks like a leftover
[16:42] <mvo> seb128: still not glade
[16:42] <mvo> seb128: but should be trivial to port :)
[16:43] <seb128> mvo, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-gtkbuilder
[16:43] <seb128> mvo, apturl too
[16:43] <seb128> mvo, half of the 6 remainings ones are yours ;-)
[16:43]  * seb128 hugs mvo
[16:44] <mvo> ok
[16:45] <seb128> mvo, I might have a go to apturl this week
[16:53] <cjwatson> anyone mind if I work on bug 569837?  it looks fairly straightforward
[16:54] <seb128> cjwatson, looking
[16:54] <cjwatson> seems to be a matter of adding some lines to telepathy-glib-sections.txt
[16:55] <seb128> cjwatson, I'm a bit puzzled about why the same version built fine and breaks now
[16:55] <cjwatson> triggered by gtk-doc now actually generating that -unused file
[16:55] <seb128> oh ok
[16:55] <seb128> that would explain
[16:56] <cjwatson> though that's odd, at least some of those symbols are already in telepathy-glib-sections.txt
[16:56] <seb128> cjwatson, I think I will go with what debian did, http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/telepathy-glib/news/20100405T230138Z.html
[16:57] <cjwatson> does it care about having the parenthesised bit there?
[16:57] <cjwatson> ok, but can we just have that as a patch rather than the whole new upstream?
[16:57] <cjwatson> ultimately the wrong fix, but ...
[16:57] <seb128> cjwatson, yes sure, I don't intend to upgrade to 0.11
[16:58] <seb128> right, the wrong way but will be easier that starting to write documentation now
[17:01] <cjwatson> ok, I didn't think it actually needed real extra doc but whatever you think best :)
[17:01] <cjwatson> can you upload that ASAP, then, and we'll get it reviewed - we have a respin on the way anyway and want to take the opportunity to sort out recent build failure reports
[17:04] <seb128> cjwatson, I'm on it
[17:05] <cjwatson> thanks
[17:14] <seb128> cjwatson, uploaded, I did the same than upstream on http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-glib.git;a=commitdiff;h=a980309f0ab1f1f8a94444c82cc1539c11ec73f8
[17:15]  * kenvandine -> lunch
[17:16] <seb128> cjwatson, it's easier than trying to fix the check since it seems the issue is not the documentation but the checking code there
[17:17] <cjwatson> I'm fine with that diff
[17:18] <seb128> cjwatson, wait
[17:20] <seb128> cjwatson, ok, build finished there, I had a doubt I forget another change in the .in but seems not
[17:26] <seb128> cjwatson, sorry there was another line that should have been dropped, did that in a new revision, the previous one did build but I would prefer if you could accept the new one too
[17:29] <cjwatson> seb128: ok, done
[17:30] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks and sorry again for the double upload ;-)
[17:30] <cjwatson> not the end of the world, didn't waste any publisher time in practice I think
[17:30] <seb128> good
[17:34] <seb128> gra, who is guy who opens a bug for uploading new translation export imports for each source having a .policy now?
[17:34] <seb128> dpm, ^ do you know about that?
[17:40] <seb128> didrocks, still there?
[17:40] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, what's up?
[17:40] <seb128> didrocks, hey ;-) how are you?
[17:41] <didrocks> seb128: I'm fine. Seems like I'm catching a cold though (thank you Julie!)
[17:41] <seb128> didrocks, do you think you could review and sponsor lp:~ubuntu-desktop/xchat-indicator/ubuntu today?
[17:41] <seb128> didrocks, I said I would so it and I forgot and I'm in a bit in a hurry to finish some stuff now before sport
[17:41] <seb128> didrocks, it should be fairly easy
[17:41] <didrocks> seb128: sure, directly on ubuntu or -proposed (there is still an opened window for universe?)
[17:41] <seb128> didrocks, ubuntu
[17:41] <didrocks> ok, cool, will do :)
[17:41] <seb128> didrocks, 'ci
[17:42] <didrocks> seb128: de rien, bon sport ;)
[17:42] <seb128> didrocks, good luck with the cold, don't go to bed to late!
[17:42] <didrocks> seb128: thanks, I won't this time :)
[17:42] <seb128> didrocks, and make sure to sort that cold issue before next week
[17:42] <seb128> didrocks, I will not open the door if you come with a ubuflu ;-)
[17:42] <didrocks> seb128: that's my goal :)
[17:43]  * seb128 hugs didrocks
[17:43] <seb128> thanks
[17:43]  * didrocks hugs seb128
[17:43] <dpm> seb128, yeah, that's kelemengabor, he's one of our most active translators and coordinates the Hungarian team, both on GNOME and Ubuntu, you'll get to know him at UDS :) He basically filed all bugs for the table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline, so that translations are exported. He's aware that this won't happen for release, but wanted to make sure the bugs are filed to reuse them in the future as a reminder for the expor
[17:43] <dpm> ts to be done
[17:43]  * seb128 goes back to finish what he was doing before sport
[17:43] <seb128> dpm, I've closed those I received now
[17:43] <seb128> dpm, I'm not wanting to maintain launchpad export for all those source only for a .policy string
[17:44] <seb128> dpm, not to mention that the bug spam made me a bit unhappy about how it was done too
[17:45] <dpm> seb128, ok, I'll tell him about that. He was just trying to help in trying that all translations were used, and he talked to me before, sorry about the spam
[17:45] <seb128> that's ok
[17:46] <seb128> we might want to discuss that at UDS
[17:46] <seb128> but I don't like much the cost of having to carry translation export in all those sources
[17:46] <seb128> we should discuss making polkit use gettext
[17:47] <pitti> cd
[17:47] <seb128> dpm, it took me basically half an hour by source to do the export, import game when I did it previously because you need to update LINGUAS by hand too etc
[17:47] <seb128> pitti, $
[17:51] <dpm> seb128, yeah, I realise it's hard work (and I thank you for having done the exports in other packages!), so I'd be really happy to talk about polkit using gettext at UDS. I'm not sure it warrants a whole session, but I can fit it into a roundtable or schedule a generic Desktop-Translations session to discuss any other issues. Actually, I think the latter might be best if there are other things, what do you think?
[17:52] <seb128> dpm, if you have issues to discuss I'm happy to join a desktop translation session
[17:52] <didrocks> kenvandine: forgot bzr add? :)
[17:52] <didrocks> kenvandine: your commit only contain the debian/changelog change :)
[17:52] <seb128> didrocks, it's debian dir in bzr only?
[17:52] <seb128> didrocks, it bzr-buildpackage will download the tarball?
[17:52] <dpm> cool, I'll see if I can come up with something by tomorrow, and I'll let you know
[17:53] <seb128> dpm, otherwise we can just take it as an action item to work on
[17:53] <didrocks> seb128: right, oh, you mean, the fix is the new upstream version, my bad
[17:53] <seb128> it = using getting for polkit strings
[17:53] <seb128> didrocks, right
[17:53] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, should have seen that with the revision number, let's blame the cold :)
[17:54] <dpm> seb128, let me think until tomorrow if there are other things that warrant a session. Otherwise, if it's as "easy" as adding an action item, I'd be happy with that.
[17:55] <seb128> dpm, ok, I'm fine either way, let me know if we need a session or if out of session corridor discussions are enough
[17:56] <dpm> seb128, ok, I want to wrap up the translations session tomorrow, so I'll come back to you then
[17:56]  * dpm hugs seb128
[17:57]  * seb128 hugs dpm
[17:59] <kenvandine> didrocks,  :)
[18:00] <didrocks> kenvandine: sorry for the wrong ping ;)
[18:02] <kenvandine> didrocks, no worries
[18:39] <Nafai> lunch
[19:16] <baptistemm_> hello
[19:25] <pitti> seb128: :)
[19:36] <didrocks> have a good evening/night everyone!
[19:45] <pitti> good night everyone
[19:45] <pitti> no CDs still, so I'll get up early and start testing at 7 :)
[19:52] <chrisccoulson> i've finally got lucid working properly on my desktop :)
[20:30] <Nafai> yay
[20:43] <dobey> hmm
[22:18] <Nafai> taking a bit of a break, bbl
[23:40] <RAOF> Oh.  *That's* why there was nothing in here.
[23:40] <RAOF> Morning all!
[23:41] <ccheney> heh
[23:41] <ccheney> RAOF: got kicked out of the channel somehow i presume?
[23:41] <RAOF> Possibly just didn't reconnect properly after one of the (many) times I needed to reset the router.
[23:42] <ccheney> yea
[23:43] <ccheney> i've had that happen pretty often, bip usually tells me when it does so i have a red lit up message from it :)
[23:44] <ccheney> i just started my wife's system upgrade to lucid and noticed nm dies in the middle of the upgrade so there won't be any net access until it can reboot :-\
[23:48] <TheMuso> Good morning.,
[23:49] <RAOF> Good morning TheMuso!  I trust that your public holiday was pleasant?
[23:49] <TheMuso> RAOF: Indeed it was. Finally some nice weather in Sydney too, which made it better.
[23:49] <TheMuso> RAOF: Did Tassi have a public holiday?
[23:50] <RAOF> TheMuso: No.  I think we're the only state without the long weekend?
[23:51] <TheMuso> RAOF: Ah that sucks. Interestingly enough, I originally read that NSW didn't have a public holiday, until I was pointed at the Industrial Relations public holiday site.