| crazybyte | jjohansen, hello! may i get on your nerves for a short time? | 07:56 |
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| jjohansen | crazybyte: sure | 07:57 |
| crazybyte | thanks :) | 07:57 |
| crazybyte | well, could you suggest where to try to submit bug report or send a mail got get some pointers on the bug i submitted. to be honest it starts to piss me off. If I use the karmic kernel is oopses even before resume if I use the lucid kernel it oopses only after resume but I can't be sure about that | 08:00 |
| crazybyte | if i try to compile a kernel or try another distro would possibly solve the issue? could this be due to some ubuntu patches or it's a general issue from what you know? | 08:02 |
| crazybyte | jjohansen, could it be that the APIC is reenabled on resume and causes the oopses (due to something) ? | 08:04 |
| jjohansen | crazybyte: it sounds like a general issue but trying another kernel might solve it | 08:04 |
| jjohansen | crazybyte: no, it is likely broken bios not setting something correctly | 08:04 |
| jjohansen | crazybyte: from a terminal type ubuntu-bug linux | 08:05 |
| jjohansen | that will run through the apport hooks to open a kernel bug, file it against lucid | 08:05 |
| crazybyte | jjohansen, yeah. like i said some time ago. i had issues with the bios but they were solved from what i see in the newest kernels but instead of that issue now i have this which is most disturbing | 08:05 |
| crazybyte | jjohansen, in most cases the only thing i can do is to force reboot using magic key | 08:06 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, wait, don't open a new bug :) | 08:06 |
| crazybyte | because after that oops a chain of oopses follow | 08:06 |
| jjohansen | right | 08:06 |
| crazybyte | i have the bug already in launchpad | 08:06 |
| jjohansen | yeah, sorry I was thinking about something else | 08:07 |
| crazybyte | no problem. i also tried disabling the smp thinking that the bug is related to what i had in hardy, but without any luck it died after a few resumes | 08:07 |
| jjohansen | crazybyte: you have the lp bug # handy | 08:09 |
| crazybyte | one sec | 08:09 |
| crazybyte | jjohansen, 565172 | 08:09 |
| crazybyte | jjohansen, i will try a vanilla kernel tonight and see what happens. the kernels from kernel.ubuntu.com are vanilla or they have already the ubuntu patches applied? | 08:13 |
| jjohansen | crazybyte: ubuntu patches, but we have a mainline build ppa | 08:14 |
| jjohansen | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds | 08:14 |
| jjohansen | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 08:14 |
| crazybyte | i see | 08:15 |
| crazybyte | ok | 08:15 |
| crazybyte | thank you! | 08:15 |
| jjohansen | np | 08:15 |
| crazybyte | i will try and come back later | 08:15 |
| jjohansen | okay | 08:15 |
| crazybyte | jjohansen, btw the addresses i mentioned where the kernel paging fails are the used by user applications. | 08:16 |
| crazybyte | they are not used by the kernel or some modules (you remember i asked how to find out what is using those addresses) | 08:16 |
| crazybyte | ok | 08:16 |
| crazybyte | see you later (or annoy you later if i may joke about it) | 08:17 |
| crazybyte | thanks again | 08:17 |
| jjohansen | crazybyte: right, that is interesting I'll look through the bug again and refresh my memory | 08:17 |
| crazybyte | ok | 08:17 |
| crazybyte | thanks | 08:17 |
| Kano | hi apw , could you commit this | 10:13 |
| Kano | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=d1501ea844eefdf925f6b711875b4b2b928fddf8 | 10:13 |
| Kano | will be in 2.6.32.12 anyway | 10:13 |
| apw | Kano, we'll be pulling in the stable update shortly after release i would think | 10:17 |
| Kano | well .12 is not out ,but that little commit will not hurt, it just fixes one laptop | 10:18 |
| Kano | tested from .32 to .34 | 10:19 |
| Kano | maybe even older kernels possible, just not tested | 10:19 |
| apw | welll the kernel won't change before then anyhow | 10:22 |
| Kano | does not matter, i use git | 10:22 |
| Kano | i patch it currently on my own | 10:22 |
| Kano | i still dont get why you never commited http://kanotix.com/files/kernel/unused-patches/2.6.30-ubuntu-copy-ieee1394-header-for-dvb.patch | 10:24 |
| Kano | because without those headers you never can compilie full dvb drivers from external sources, you have to disable firewire drivers all the time | 10:25 |
| abogani | Kano: I'm just curious: DO you have already sent that patch upstream? | 10:28 |
| Kano | abogani: i mentioned it definitely here when i began to compile my own kernels with it. i just hate to repeat myself all the time. | 10:30 |
| abogani | Kano: Ok, sorry. | 10:31 |
| hyperair | who can i talk to about apparmor here? (trying to merge in apparmor into the mainline kernel) | 14:08 |
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| smb | hyperair, jjohansen but I am not sure he is awake right now | 14:21 |
| hyperair | smb: thanks. i think i had the wrong branch in any case =p | 14:21 |
| * hyperair tries a different branch | 14:21 | |
| hyperair | it builds!! | 14:22 |
| hyperair | =D | 14:22 |
| JFo | akgraner, if you see Rikki online, will you tell her to sync up in here with me if she has questions on bug 567016 | 14:35 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 567016 in linux "Wireless won't work on Lenovo Thinkpad T510" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567016 | 14:35 |
| JFo | please and thank you | 14:35 |
| akgraner | JFo, will do - she is rarely on IRC - are you on FB or gtalk at all? | 14:36 |
| JFo | not to where I would work with someone on a bug :) | 14:36 |
| JFo | I gave her a pile of instruction | 14:36 |
| JFo | but I wanted to be sure she could ping me with any issues | 14:37 |
| akgraner | JFo, gotcha' let me tell her - Thanks | 14:37 |
| JFo | k, thank you | 14:37 |
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| akgraner | JFo, she is looking at it now and is going to try your instructions | 15:00 |
| JFo | ok cool | 15:00 |
| JFo | I'm here if she needs me | 15:00 |
| akgraner | JFo, ping | 15:46 |
| JFo | akgraner, pong | 15:47 |
| akgraner | JFo, rikkikite 's here and she has questions | 15:47 |
| JFo | oh hey rikkikite :) | 15:48 |
| JFo | thanks akgraner | 15:48 |
| akgraner | JFo, one sec she doesn't have voice - we are registering her nick now | 15:49 |
| JFo | ah, ok | 15:50 |
| akgraner | yeah if you don't use a reg nick you can't talk in here | 15:58 |
| apw | akgraner, we're working on sorting that out | 15:58 |
| JFo | i forgot about that | 15:58 |
| akgraner | JFo, so did I | 15:58 |
| akgraner | :-) | 15:59 |
| akgraner | and I got ban from here one day and accused pgraner of all sorts of not so nice things | 15:59 |
| JFo | heh | 16:00 |
| bjf | akgraner, look forward to seeing you at uds-m :-) | 16:01 |
| akgraner | bjf, likewise | 16:01 |
| akgraner | and I have questions for you | 16:01 |
| akgraner | putting together interview list now | 16:01 |
| akgraner | :-) | 16:01 |
| bjf | akgraner, being a kernel guy my answers are all "no" and "that's a userspace issue" | 16:02 |
| akgraner | haha | 16:02 |
| JFo | lol | 16:02 |
| akgraner | *sigh* I seem to have heard that one before | 16:02 |
| JFo | you should hear what he says to me when i tell him about arsenal script breakages | 16:03 |
| JFo | :-P | 16:03 |
| bjf | JFo, have you ever heard me answer differently? | 16:03 |
| JFo | heh, nope | 16:03 |
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| akgraner | I just say - uh wrong graner and send them to the other one - just to see if pete's vocabulary has improved :-D It hasn't | 16:07 |
| pgraner | akgraner: go away your distracting hard working folk | 16:10 |
| * akgraner sighs seeeeeee Have a great day y'all! | 16:10 | |
| * akgraner waves bye | 16:11 | |
| JFo | so stupid question: | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> ok looks good | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> hmmm | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> one sec | 16:23 |
| JFo | * JFo goes to look at something | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> ok, looks like you will need another package | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> linux-image-2.6.32-22-386_2.6.32-22.33~lp567016 | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> for 386 or amd 64, whichever you are using | 16:23 |
| JFo | <rikkikite> ok, not seeing the amd64 | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> are you using an i386 machine? | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> if so, you won't need the amd64 ones | 16:23 |
| JFo | <rikkikite> when I tried to run the i386 earlier, it told me I'm on an amd64 | 16:23 |
| JFo | <rikkikite> :-) | 16:23 |
| JFo | <JFo> run uname -a and paste here | 16:23 |
| JFo | grrrrrr | 16:23 |
| JFo | I hate this irc client | 16:23 |
| JFo | wrong grab | 16:23 |
| JFo | (Reading database ... 156192 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic 2.6.32-22.33~lp567016 (using linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic_2.6.32-22.33~lp567016_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic: linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic depends on linux-headers-2.6.32-22; | 16:23 |
| JFo | there isn't another headers package that I see under amd64 | 16:24 |
| JFo | <-missing something obvious | 16:24 |
| JFo | and what is kernel-image-2.6.32-22-generic-di_2.6.32-22.33/ | 16:25 |
| JFo | s/\//?/ | 16:25 |
| * bjf[afk] is back | 17:21 | |
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| bjf | JFo, is it intrepid that we quit supporting at the end of May? | 17:33 |
| JFo | sorry I was away bjf | 18:51 |
| JFo | had a phone call that I've just finished | 18:51 |
| JFo | took much longer than I'd planned | 18:51 |
| maxb | Can anyone hint me what 'NVRM: Xid (0002:00): 13, 0001 00000000 0000502d 000008dc 00000000 00000040' in dmesg might indicate, after what might be a GPU crash? | 19:04 |
| bjf | bryceh, ^ ? | 19:08 |
| bryceh | bjf, dunno, looks like some hex numbers printed to syslog | 19:10 |
| bryceh | maybe scan the kernel code for the line that prints it out, for more context | 19:10 |
| bjf | bryceh, ok, was just asking incase you'd run accross it before | 19:11 |
| JFo | bjf, any idea on my question around deb dependency from above: (Reading database ... 156192 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic 2.6.32-22.33~lp567016 (using linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic_2.6.32-22.33~lp567016_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic: linux-headers-2.6.32-2 | 19:11 |
| JFo | 2-generic depends on linux-headers-2.6.32-22; | 19:11 |
| JFo | it is on amd64 | 19:11 |
| JFo | and I don't see a deb for just linux-headers-2.6.32-2 under there | 19:11 |
| JFo | err -22* | 19:11 |
| bjf | JFo, where were you trying to pull that amd64 deb from? | 19:13 |
| JFo | from Tim's PPA | 19:14 |
| JFo | bjf, https://edge.launchpad.net/~timg-tpi/+archive/ppa/+build/1704678 | 19:14 |
| bjf | JFo, url? | 19:14 |
| JFo | :0 | 19:14 |
| bjf | JFo, :-) | 19:14 |
| JFo | :) | 19:14 |
| bjf | JFo, I don't see anything obviously wrong | 19:16 |
| JFo | dunno why it says there is a dependency | 19:16 |
| JFo | ahttps://edge.launchpad.net/~timg-tpi/+archive/ppa/+build/1704678nd I don't have any H/W to test on that is 64 bit | 19:16 |
| JFo | sigh | 19:17 |
| * JFo scratches out his touchpad | 19:17 | |
| bjf | JFo, let me give it a try | 19:22 |
| JFo | k | 19:22 |
| JFo | what is a generic-di image? | 19:22 |
| bjf | don't know | 19:23 |
| bjf | good thing we work here or this could be confusing | 19:23 |
| JFo | I know :) | 19:23 |
| bjf | JFo, ran into same error, looking at it | 19:27 |
| JFo | k, thanks bjarkef | 19:27 |
| JFo | wtf? | 19:27 |
| JFo | bjf i mean | 19:27 |
| JFo | me tab-complete fails | 19:28 |
| JFo | and now slash fail | 19:28 |
| JFo | I give up | 19:28 |
| bjf | JFo, i have an idea, but I don't understand exactly what is going on, am testing | 19:31 |
| JFo | ok, thanks for looking bjf | 19:32 |
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| bjf | JFo, I think the issue is because tgardner built that image with a newer abi, the dependency hasn't been released yet I don't think | 19:38 |
| JFo | I see | 19:38 |
| JFo | that makes sense | 19:38 |
| bjf | JFo, i think it's all got to do with where we are in the release | 19:38 |
| JFo | so we can't use that image | 19:38 |
| JFo | ok | 19:38 |
| bjf | JFo, we can use the image, it installed and the headers installed as well, just with the warning/error | 19:39 |
| JFo | oh, so it worked | 19:39 |
| JFo | hmm | 19:39 |
| bjf | JFo, the image booted just fine for me but I probably don't have the HW that is being tested | 19:39 |
| JFo | ok | 19:39 |
| JFo | are you comfortable with me having her reboot? :) | 19:41 |
| JFo | brb | 19:41 |
| bjf | yes | 19:43 |
| JFo | cool | 19:44 |
| MTecknology | hyperair: you want me to bug people here? | 19:44 |
| hyperair | MTecknology: well they'd know more about initrds, in any case =D | 19:45 |
| MTecknology | I'm booting without any initrd. So initramfs-tools seems pretty pointless. Is there any reason that seemingly half the packages in the system have a dependency on it? | 19:45 |
| MTecknology | hyperair: btw.. The number one complaint I've heard about Ubuntu is that we 'take away choice' I'm on a personal mission to rip that theory to shreds. I could go repackage each one of those packages and check out the code and the Depends: and change to Suggests: or go about it other wasy. But I'd rather see it there are better options | 19:48 |
| hyperair | MTecknology: good luck with that. our dear dictator is on a mission to take away choice. | 19:48 |
| hyperair | MTecknology: i'm talking about all the ux-stupidity that's getting implemented, without a choice to disable it | 19:49 |
| MTecknology | ux-? | 19:49 |
| * hyperair mumbles something about update-manager spawning in my face | 19:50 | |
| MTecknology | hyperair: oh, user interface? | 19:50 |
| hyperair | but this is off-topic in this channel. | 19:50 |
| JFo | user what? :-) | 19:50 |
| hyperair | yes, user interface. | 19:50 |
| JFo | heh | 19:50 |
| hyperair | inter face. | 19:50 |
| hyperair | in between faces. | 19:50 |
| hyperair | (^_^)<--- this space is called the interface ---> (^_^) | 19:51 |
| * hyperair goes back to studying | 19:51 | |
| MTecknology | hyperair: lol.. I like what's being done with the UI; You're still free to change it. I need to run off for a little bit. | 19:52 |
| azop | hyperair: which dictator are you refering to? | 19:53 |
| hyperair | azop: the self-proclaimed benevolent one. | 19:54 |
| azop | named? | 19:54 |
| hyperair | self appointed benevolent dictator for life. | 19:54 |
| azop | surely not Mark | 19:54 |
| azop | riot | 19:55 |
| hyperair | *S*elf *A*ppointed *B*enevolent *D*ictator *F*or *L*ife. | 19:55 |
| hyperair | yes, I mean Mark. | 19:55 |
| MTecknology | hyperair: I like mark, nice guy, never talked to him face to face though | 20:00 |
| hyperair | MTecknology: well don't get me wrong, i don't hate him or anything, it's just that i don't like some of the things he does. notify-osd was awesome, but removing tooltips, making update-manager spawn in your face, etc weren't | 20:01 |
| MTecknology | I don't have update-manager installed on here | 20:03 |
| MTecknology | I have 528 packages installed - and I want to remove some of them | 20:03 |
| JFo | akgraner, what we discussed earlier... you are | 20:38 |
| JFo | errr akgraner_n900 | 20:38 |
| maco | here only some airports do and they can do a patdown instead of nekkid machine if you request | 20:58 |
| maco | bah | 20:58 |
| maco | darned irc client :P that was talking about the millimeter wave airport machines | 20:58 |
| MTecknology | maco: nekkid? | 21:34 |
| maco | MTecknology: the millimetre wave machines in airports show the airport security what you look like through your clothes | 21:35 |
| MTecknology | odd.. | 21:35 |
| maco | like x-ray glasses in cartoons that see through clothes but not through skin | 21:35 |
| MTecknology | maco: google doesn't seem to know about nekkid machines.. | 21:36 |
| maco | MTecknology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millimeter_wave_scanner | 21:37 |
| MTecknology | heh.. that's awkward | 21:38 |
| MTecknology | How could I build an extra kernel module into the kernel itself? | 21:42 |
| MTecknology | say, the vbox modules.. | 21:42 |
| dupondje | Is it possible to get somewhere an older kernel version? I suspect regression between -18 and now | 21:56 |
| persia | dupondje: There's bundles of kernel versions in launchpad, but each is for a different release, so may or may not work well against a given userspace stack. | 21:57 |
| persia | dupondje: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux | 21:57 |
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| dupondje | had a really annoying bug that cifs mount seems to not fluently give data | 22:01 |
| dupondje | when playing music from a cifs mount, it skips from time to time. Suddenly it was fixed, and yesterday I noticed it was back | 22:01 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: question about linux-ec2 + lucid when you get time | 22:01 |
| bjf | dupondje, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/ | 22:02 |
| dupondje | bjf: thats only 1 per version ? | 22:03 |
| dupondje | see only 1 2.6.32 .. | 22:03 |
| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/508930 => maby somebody has other idea's ? :) | 22:04 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 508930 in linux "CIFS mount is offline every x minutes/seconds" [Undecided,Invalid] | 22:04 |
| bjf | dupondje, so it is.. let me look around | 22:05 |
| bjf | dupondje, is it an ubuntu bug or do you think it is in mainline as well? there are some mainline kernes built at: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 22:10 |
| dupondje | I don't know, but lets check that :) | 22:17 |
| JanC | MTecknology: modules are not in the kernel but external to it, otherwise they aren't modules? ;) | 22:20 |
| MTecknology | JanC: ya.. the terms between =M and =Y confuse me | 22:21 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: okay shoot | 22:24 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: is there a particular linux-ec2 kernel version you are normally using with lucid? | 22:25 |
| rackerhacker | 2.6.32.9 works acceptably, but ureadahead & plymouth throw out some interesting errors at boot | 22:25 |
| rackerhacker | so far, it appears to be just cosmetic | 22:25 |
| jjohansen | yeah .9 is the latest | 22:27 |
| rackerhacker | alrighty, well it seems to work ;) | 22:28 |
| rackerhacker | i wasn't sure if y'all had tossed it on ec2 yet | 22:28 |
| jjohansen | what are the errors you are seeing with ureadahead and plymouth? | 22:28 |
| jjohansen | I haven't loooked at that at all recently, but last I remember we were going to disable ureadahead for virtual installs, because the ureadahead buffer can be as large as the vms memory | 22:30 |
| Wazzzaaa | For reporting a bug I want to test an upstream kernel from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds But I don't know which I need to download. uname -a gives me: 2.6.31-20 any ideas? | 22:38 |
| Ng | would it be preferred that I comment on bug #563277 or open a new bug for an i855 laptop which works with -19, but gets KMS wrong and seems to entirely lock up while starting X with -21? | 22:39 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 563277 in linux "Please blacklist older 8xx cards from using KMS" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563277 | 22:39 |
| Ng | I'm trying to dig out an i386 deb of -20 now to see what that makes of it | 22:39 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: i can make a paste for you if you want | 22:46 |
| Ng | yeah -20 works fine, so it's looking like the blacklist | 22:46 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: sure | 22:46 |
| * Ng wonders what on earth the resolution to that is. some crashes without blacklisting, or some non-booting with it | 22:47 | |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: i'll have it ready in a few moments | 22:49 |
| rackerhacker | jjohansen: http://pastie.org/936284 | 22:51 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: what is the memory size of the vm | 22:52 |
| rackerhacker | 256M | 22:53 |
| rackerhacker | my knowledge of ureadahead is relatively limited | 22:54 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: alright I'll need to poke some as I didn't do the changes for ureadahead and plymouth, but those error messages are likely to be how ureadahead is being "disabled" | 22:55 |
| rackerhacker | no rush as it appears to be cosmetic at this time | 22:55 |
| rackerhacker | if you want an environment to play around with, give me a shout and you'll get one | 22:55 |
| rackerhacker | i'll be in california for the xen summit for the rest of the week, but i'll check my email pretty often | 22:56 |
| jjohansen | basically, since ureadahead uses a large kernel ftrace buffer small memory vm's where running out of memory and couldn't boot | 22:56 |
| rackerhacker | let me see if it happens on a bigger instance | 22:56 |
| rackerhacker | yeah, exact same output on a 2GB i386 lucid install | 22:58 |
| rackerhacker | i left ureadahead + plymouth as stock from the debootstrap | 22:58 |
| rackerhacker | this may very well be the wrong forum to bring up these issues, so just redirect me if so | 22:58 |
| jjohansen | rackerhacker: well I'll poke for a bit as I just don't know yet | 22:59 |
| rackerhacker | sounds good, i'll be happy to submit a formal bug report later on if you need it | 23:00 |
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