[00:03] <robertzaccour> does anyone know how to get skype workin right in xubuntu? skype works right i mean the audio settings ain't right though. can't get the voice capture going
[00:04] <robertzaccour> and i really prefer xfce over gnome because i don't believe in "evolution integration" linux isn't about integration.
[00:14] <robertzaccour> anyone here?
[00:16] <robertzaccour> anyone know how to get audio capture working in xfce?
[00:21] <robertzaccour> am i in the wrong channel?
[00:35] <robertzaccour> anyone know how to get audio capture working in audio settings? i need to use skype
[00:50] <datz> robertzaccour: I had/have the same problem with ubuntu...
[00:59] <robertzaccour> datz, its xubuntu i have the problem in
[01:00] <lighta> state your issue ?
[01:01] <robertzaccour> lighta, i don't know how to adjust audio capture in xubuntu. in ubuntu gnome it was right there in volume settings, but it seems hidden in xfce
[01:03] <lighta> robertzaccour, try xfce4-mixer
[01:04] <lighta> you can add it on panel right clik add element mixer
[01:05] <robertzaccour> lighta, ok thanks
[01:10] <robertzaccour> i prefer xfce over gnome because gnome has evolution integrated. i don't think software should be integrated, too risky and thats one of the things i dislike about windows
[01:10] <lighta> not really english what u mean by integrated ?
[01:10] <lighta> all in one ?
[01:11] <robertzaccour> lighta, i mean the desktop is dependent on it being installed. if you purge evolution, all that boots up is a wallpaper
[01:11] <robertzaccour> whereas not integrated would be if evolution crashed, its just an application crash that doesn't affect everything else
[01:13] <lighta> oh I see =), did your audio configuration fine now ?
[01:14] <robertzaccour> capture or capture 1?
[01:14] <robertzaccour> which should i enable?
[01:14] <lighta> I would like to have an equalizer too, but dunno where to found one
[01:14] <robertzaccour> there's also digital mic
[01:14] <lighta> what you want input or mic ?
[01:15] <robertzaccour> lighta, my laptop has built in mic
[01:15] <robertzaccour> there is also digital mic in the options to add
[01:16] <lighta> oh right, I only put the first one up myself
[01:16] <lighta> working fine for skype
[01:16] <robertzaccour> capture not capture 1 right?
[01:16] <lighta> (just that I don't have a regular mic :(; using headphone as mic right now)
[01:16] <lighta> yes
[01:16] <lighta> capture
[01:17] <robertzaccour> ok thanks
[01:41] <Zenthor> Anyone know why 10.04RC boots (most of the time) to a white screen requiring many reboots until it boots normal? 9.10 did not have this problem.
[02:39] <robertzaccour> i just installed xubuntu, and my disc and usb devices aren't being shown
[02:40] <robertzaccour> i didn't have this problem with gnome
[02:42] <robertzaccour> any ideas?
[02:42] <robertzaccour> is this an xfce bug?
[02:46] <robertzaccour> i just installed xubuntu, and my disc and usb devices aren't being shown
[02:46] <robertzaccour> any ideas?
[02:47] <Aquina> As usual try lspci and see the logs in /var/log that usually helps alot.
[03:09] <robertzaccour> how do i change the panel colors?
[03:56] <robertzaccour> how do i use a picture i saved as a wallpaper?
[03:57] <robertzaccour> i figured it out :)
[04:02] <RottDawg> newb needing help... I built this http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1 a couple years ago and now for some reason it won't boot all the way... stops at busybox v1.1.3 with a (initramfs) prompt?  I have a ton of data that I need to get to?  Any help would be appreciated
[04:06] <psycho_oreos> judging by the date its an old howto
[04:08] <RottDawg> It has been getting updates over the years   thats just what I started with
[04:09] <psycho_oreos> and now you're stuck with 7.04 with it booting to busybox?
[04:09] <robertzaccour> how do i reset the panels?
[04:09] <psycho_oreos> !panels
[04:09] <robertzaccour> like to the way they were originally
[04:10] <psycho_oreos> ahh I dunno
[04:26] <RottDawg> can I try to reinstall or will that destroy the data that I have on there?
[04:28] <robertzaccour> how do i restore xfce panel defaults?
[04:41] <psycho_oreos> it might destroy your data on there
[05:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Would anyone be so kind as to email me a copy of /isolinux/splash.png from the live CD if it contains one so I dont have to download the whole ISO to get that. Im working on a community project that boots all the buntus from a single dvd and I need the splash image if anyone feels like helping.
[05:58] <robertzaccour> just installed xubuntu today and lovin it :)
[05:59] <LinuxGuy2009> robertzaccour: Feel like helping me dude?
[05:59] <robertzaccour> people say you can't tell the difference from gnome with a 64 bit system, but i can :)
[05:59] <robertzaccour> LinuxGuy2009, whats up?
[05:59] <robertzaccour> its a lot more snappier than gnome :)
[06:00] <LinuxGuy2009> robertzaccour: Did you read my post above?
[06:00] <LinuxGuy2009> robertzaccour: ImageBin /isolinux/splash.png from the live CD
[06:00] <robertzaccour> LinuxGuy2009, no
[06:00] <LinuxGuy2009> robertzaccour: Could you do that for me?
[06:00] <robertzaccour> i don't see anything, i just got here
[06:00] <robertzaccour> oops sorry i'll check
[06:00] <LinuxGuy2009> Would anyone be so kind as to email me a copy of /isolinux/splash.png from the live CD if it contains one so I dont have to download the whole ISO to get that. Im working on a community project that boots all the buntus from a single dvd and I need the splash image if anyone feels like helping.
[06:00] <robertzaccour> LinuxGuy2009, whats that?
[06:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Whats what?
[06:01] <robertzaccour> it said no such file or directory
[06:02] <LinuxGuy2009> robertzaccour: On the CD there is no file?
[06:02] <robertzaccour> oh i didn't check
[06:02] <LinuxGuy2009> robertzaccour:  All the other buntus have one.
[06:02] <robertzaccour> brb
[06:02] <LinuxGuy2009> k
[06:04] <robertzaccour> LinuxGuy2009, what folder is it in?
[06:04] <LinuxGuy2009> /isolinux/splash.png
[06:04] <LinuxGuy2009> http://imagebin.org/
[06:06] <robertzaccour> LinuxGuy2009, how am i supposed to find that?
[06:06] <LinuxGuy2009> robertzaccour: look on the cd
[06:06] <robertzaccour> i used a usb flash to install
[06:07] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok  thanks anyways
[06:07] <robertzaccour> how do i search for it?
[06:07] <robertzaccour> yw
[06:07] <LinuxGuy2009> Ubuntu and Kubuntu have one and I just figured xubuntu has one too.
[06:07] <robertzaccour> xubuntu took only 6 minutes to install
[06:07] <LinuxGuy2009> wow thats fast
[06:08] <robertzaccour> yeah
[06:08] <LinuxGuy2009> How big is the iso anyways 700MB?
[06:08] <robertzaccour> a poop takes longer than that
[06:08] <LinuxGuy2009> lol
[06:08] <robertzaccour> over 600
[06:08] <LinuxGuy2009> ok
[06:08] <LinuxGuy2009> guess ill just download it
[06:08] <robertzaccour> the iso took like 5 minutes to download
[06:08] <robertzaccour> so it took within 20 minutes to download, mount, and install
[06:09] <LinuxGuy2009> dang you must have a rocket connection
[06:09] <robertzaccour> 16MB
[06:09] <robertzaccour> and people say you can't tell the difference from gnome on a 64 bit system, i can
[06:09] <robertzaccour> everything opens faster
[06:13] <robertzaccour> oh and the xubuntu devs know how to make a theme. sorry gnome and kde
[07:22] <robertzaccour> how do i update my grub script? i know how to in gnome but not xfce
[07:23] <_Techie_> how do you mean?
[07:24] <robertzaccour> in gnome its gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[07:24] <robertzaccour> but what in xfce?
[07:24] <_Techie_> umm, im not sure about the xfce4 text editor, i use nano for all my editing needs
[07:28] <Sysi> mousepad
[07:36] <robertzaccour> oh i have an idea
[07:36] <robertzaccour> install gnome, update grub, then purge gnome. would that work?
[07:37] <_Techie_> itd be a long way about doing it
[07:38] <robertzaccour> do you know of a way?
[07:38] <_Techie_> use mousepad
[07:38] <Sysi> replace gedit with mousepad for your command in gnome
[07:41] <robertzaccour> thanks Sysi
[08:05] <robertzaccour> any way to fix this? http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq274/Knuckle_Brawler/Screenshot-4.png?t=1272265486
[08:06] <Sysi> didi you click the button?
[08:06] <robertzaccour> Sysi, yes
[08:06] <robertzaccour> and it just popped up again after appearing to download updates
[08:09] <Sysi> to terminal: gksudo update-manager
[08:10] <robertzaccour> Sysi, its updated thats the first thing i did after
[08:11] <Sysi> i use apt-get for updating
[08:11] <Sysi> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:12] <robertzaccour> if part of it says ign is that bad?
[08:12] <Sysi> ign?
[08:12] <robertzaccour> i'll pastebin it brb
[08:14] <robertzaccour> http://pastebin.com/WeYxHuP2
[08:15] <_Techie_> ign is short for ignored
[08:15] <robertzaccour> _Techie_, is that bad?
[08:15] <_Techie_> no, those parts are disabled by default
[08:16] <robertzaccour> _Techie_, so i should just wait it out and update my way out of it?
[08:16] <_Techie_> i guess so
[08:16] <Sysi> upgrade don't install all updates
[08:16] <Sysi> dist-upgrade does
[08:18] <_Techie_> and to relieve the stress - http://uploads.ungrounded.net/285000/285267_ultimateshowdown.swf
[08:19] <robertzaccour> _Techie_, no updates available
[08:19] <Sysi> so, there isn't updates
[08:20] <_Techie_> and by the output you gave us, it looks like the authentication problem has been resolved
[08:20] <robertzaccour> _Techie_, how come the pop up still comes up?
[08:20] <_Techie_> not sure, but it doenst seem to be having trouble
[08:21] <robertzaccour> _Techie_, so i should just ignore it and maybe try a fresh install tomorrow?
[08:21] <_Techie_> up to you
[08:21] <Sysi> graphical things just don't always work
[08:21] <Sysi> it can work after reboot (non-linuxish)
[08:22] <_Techie_> thats an idea
[08:22] <Sysi> lucid isn't officially stable yet :)
[08:22] <robertzaccour> xkill fixed it :)
[08:23] <robertzaccour> Sysi, i haven't used a stable by default distro since jaunty. the last 2 required bug fixes i had to research
[08:23] <robertzaccour> counting lucid
[08:24] <robertzaccour> ubutnu distros i mean
[08:24] <Sysi> karmic was never stable for me
[08:24] <robertzaccour> i had to remove gnome-power-manager in karmic
[08:25] <robertzaccour> and sometimes i had to shut down and drain the power to get usb devices and discs to be recognized
[08:29] <robertzaccour> goin to sleep
[08:29] <robertzaccour> later yall
[09:12] <choi> hello
[09:53] <mikubuntu> guys is it ok for me to run my browser while i'm upgrading my distro from karmic to lucid?
[09:53] <mikubuntu> can it mess up my upgrade?
[09:54] <moetunes> ii should be fine
[09:54] <moetunes> it*
[09:54] <mikubuntu> :) thx
[09:55] <moetunes> np :]
[09:56] <mikubuntu> this att dsl lite connection is SO SLOW, the term says its downloading at 80 kb/s .. dl speeds are sposed to be at least 256 with this plan .. pisses me OFF
[09:57] <moetunes> heh - it might be the server tho...
[09:57] <mikubuntu> you think the server could be that slow?
[09:57] <moetunes> if it's busy it might be
[09:58] <moetunes> "might"
[09:59] <mikubuntu> could be, but this connection is slow no matter where i go or download, and i'd rather hate att than the o/s community
[09:59] <mikubuntu> prolly should have done a fresh install, but i din't feel like backing everything up
[10:00] <moetunes> if it's slow everywhere then ...
[10:01] <mikubuntu> omg, more tornadoes on the news .. hate tornadoes
[10:01] <mikubuntu> whats the hot topic here today
[10:02] <_Techie_> !sex
[10:03] <mikubuntu> sex is the hot topic everywhere isn't it?
[10:03] <_Techie_> pretty much
[10:03] <mikubuntu> i'm waiting for the open source version
[10:03] <mikubuntu> :)
[10:04] <_Techie_> xD
[10:04] <Sysi> they did that in norway
[10:04] <mikubuntu> huh?
[10:04] <Sysi> paying became illegal, so free
[10:05] <mikubuntu> really, they made paying illegal in norway?
[10:05] <Sysi> paying about sex
[10:05] <mikubuntu> who knew
[10:06] <_Techie_> here its illegal to profit from someone elses sex
[10:06] <mikubuntu> you're in norway techie?
[10:06] <_Techie_> no, NZ
[10:06] <TheSheep> !ot
[10:06] <_Techie_> SHEEP!!
[10:07] <mikubuntu> oops, sry
[10:07] <mikubuntu> you woke the sleeping sheep
[10:07] <mikubuntu> at least it wasn't the sleepg tiger
[10:07] <Sysi> x-ot is dead, this is used when there isn't anything proper
[10:08] <mikubuntu> i just took a girl to the airport last week in miami, she was going to auckland
[10:09] <_Techie_> cool
[10:09] <_Techie_> ima  5 hour drive from aucks
[10:09] <mikubuntu> god, this upgrade is only at 21% been 40 mins already
[10:11] <mikubuntu> anybody have anything good or bad to say about lucid?  haven't really read too much about new features, just felt like upgrading and trying it out
[10:11] <Sysi> very fast
[10:11] <mikubuntu> nice
[10:11] <_Techie_> it will never take the place where jaunty is in my heart
[10:11] <mikubuntu> noticeable difference then, from karmic?
[10:12] <mikubuntu> but will it take the place on your hard drive?
[10:12] <_Techie_> on my alternative drive maybe
[10:12] <mikubuntu> :)
[10:12] <_Techie_> i nver have that plugged in though
[10:13] <mikubuntu> are you on the water in nz?  surf?
[10:13] <mikubuntu> or inland
[10:13] <_Techie_> coast
[10:13] <_Techie_> New Plymouth, Taranaki to be precise
[10:13] <_Techie_> west cpoast of the north island
[10:13] <mikubuntu> nice, such a beautiful country
[10:13] <_Techie_> yeah
[10:14] <mikubuntu> i'll look at it on google ... i'm from panama, and i go to pan and costa rica a lot .. also beautiful, more snakes
[10:15] <_Techie_> no snakes here
[10:15] <_Techie_> no extremely deadly spiders either
[10:18] <_Techie_> however our internet sucks
[10:18] <mikubuntu> cant find taranaki in new plymouth is it west or east of strandon?
[10:18] <mikubuntu> your internet can't suck as bad as the states
[10:19] <_Techie_> wanna bet
[10:19] <mikubuntu> a nickel, then
[10:19] <_Techie_> you guys got ADSL 2+ support in each exchange?
[10:20] <_Techie_> coz we dont yet
[10:20] <mikubuntu> i have att 's slowest dsl 'lite' connection, $20 US/month, and so slow its the worst
[10:20] <mikubuntu> might as well be dial up
[10:22] <mikubuntu> how much do you pay, and whats your speeds .. mine is sposed to be 256 minimum down, and its downloading at 80 kb/s right now
[10:23] <mikubuntu> in europe and japan they are surfing at warp speeds
[10:25] <_Techie_> well i pay $54 NZD per month for line speed down and 128k up
[10:25] <_Techie_> my line speed down is about 1 megabit per second
[10:25] <_Techie_> and im lucky if i can get a download goign at that
[10:26] <mikubuntu> how does nzd compare to usd?
[10:26] <_Techie_> umm
[10:26] <_Techie_> 1 New Zealand dollar = 0.7194 U.S. dollars   accordign to google
[10:27] <mikubuntu> ya, you are paying a lot then
[10:28] <mikubuntu> about twice what i pay, but you have much faster connection
[10:29] <_Techie_> yeah right
[10:29] <_Techie_> whats your base price without any data?
[10:29] <mikubuntu> its just a straight $20/month
[10:30] <mikubuntu> you have data surcharges?
[10:30] <_Techie_> yeah
[10:30] <_Techie_> we pay about $30 base which covers the plan and speeds
[10:30] <_Techie_> and we pay $1.02 per gig
[10:32] <mikubuntu> OMG!  thats the big fight over here, all the big isps want to charge for 'high volume' users, and throttle traffic .. its a big deal thats getting workd out this year hopefully, while the democrats are in control .. under bush it was let the corporations do whatever they want to do
[10:34] <mikubuntu> 28% on upgrade .. arrggghhhhhhhh
[10:39] <ablomen> can't you guys organize a protest or something like that? over here (the netherlands) bandwith caps and traffic limits (mostly) died out around 2002 or something like that
[10:39] <ablomen> when one started to do that the rest followed very quickly
[10:48] <k0ala> when is the new version of xubuntu releasing?
[11:21] <rshakin> hey ppl
[11:21] <rshakin> who is alive ?
[11:22] <psycho_oreos> you
[11:22] <rshakin> yeah... thats for sure
[11:22] <_Techie_> im aolove... i hope
[11:22] <rshakin> !wacom
[11:24] <rshakin> is there any kind of writing recognition in ubuntu
[11:24] <rshakin> i saw only cell writer but that really sucks
[11:28] <TheSheep> rshakin: no, there is sadly no writing recognition for linux
[11:28] <ablomen> not true, lemme google
[11:28] <ablomen> rshakin, oh
[11:28] <ablomen> lol
[11:28] <TheSheep> ablomen: I did a pretty extensive research some year ago
[11:29] <ablomen> TheSheep, http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/120867 << cellwriter, but rshakin already tried that i guess
[11:29] <TheSheep> yes
[11:29] <rshakin> ok, anyone ran linux on a hptc4200
[11:32] <rshakin> btw google search did not turn up any good results
[11:32] <ablomen> rshakin, http://www.handhelds.org/projects/xscribble.html << you could try this
[11:33] <ablomen> does not look high-tech but maybe it works
[11:39] <rshakin> ok, found something that might work called rosetta... it's too late to mess with it right now i am going to see if i can compile it next couple of days
[11:40] <rshakin> i am going to see if i can port it
[11:54] <dekroning> hi
[11:54] <dekroning> for some reason my X window manager changed from :0 to :1  how could this be possible?
[11:56] <psycho_oreos> there's another instance of xorg running on :0 or a lock
[11:57] <dekroning> there is no :0 running
[11:57] <dekroning> how can i see if :0 has a lock?
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> look for lock files
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> they should normally end in .lock
[12:09] <dekroning> k thanks psycho_oreos
[12:10] <psycho_oreos> dekroning, did you find it?
[12:10] <dekroning> psycho_oreos: no i did not, but i must say, i did a reboot before i asked already and it jumped back to :0, so i've written a note down, to check for lock files if it happens again
[12:11] <dekroning> psycho_oreos: also the strange things was that i needed to manually login (i have autologin enabled) so that was a bit strange already, so i guess that was already a sign that it used :1
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> dekroning, I'm not sure exactly where the .lock files are located for xorg but iirc its either in /tmp or maybe in /var
[12:13] <daj> hello
[12:17] <pike> hi guys. I've installed 10.04 RC, when I boot I don't get any video (after bios ofc), known issue ?
[12:18] <dekroning> damn, my xfce doesn't do a "autologin" after i changed my password
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> check under settings lol
[12:22] <dekroning> psycho_oreos: where is it? :-) i only saw it during install
[12:23] <psycho_oreos> dekroning, I never bothered to setup autologin, but its around there somewhere :)
[12:24] <dekroning> psycho_oreos: hmm oke, well i see a "Don't ask for password on login" but it seems to be grayed out, was hoping i could do it from the commandline
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> dekroning, if from the command line its probably some .conf file you'll be looking at
[16:17] <mikubuntu> guys just upgraded from karmic to lucid and i have five broken dependencies: devede, mencoder, mscore, python-launchpadlib, and wine , i can't figure out how to fix them
[16:18] <vinnl> mikubuntu, have you added any third-party repositories, like PPA's?
[16:19] <mikubuntu> hey vinnl, i think the the lucid repositories are in the software sources
[16:19] <vinnl> mikubuntu, but only the lucid repositories?
[16:19] <mikubuntu> it showed the karmic ones disabled
[16:19] <vinnl> mikubuntu, can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com and send the link here?
[16:20] <mikubuntu> let me try, thx
[16:22] <mikubuntu> vinnl, which one?  sources.list.save or sources.list~  ?
[16:23] <mikubuntu> or sources.list.distUpgrade
[16:23] <vinnl> mikubuntu, sources.list
[16:23] <mikubuntu>   oops, ok just found it :]  gimme a min to paste up
[16:25] <knome> hey vinnl. re your question: i don't really know. maybe you should look at the settings by which the "newest entries" is printed. iirc that's a view. i already deleted my user account from .org
[16:25] <vinnl> knome, ah, OK, thank you
[16:26] <mikubuntu> vinnl, i try to open the sources.list with dolphin and it launches the software sources (app) don't get a txt file
[16:26] <vinnl> Looked at that but doesn't seem to work
[16:26] <vinnl> mikubuntu, then select "Open with" and then Mousepad
[16:26] <mikubuntu> ah, ok
[16:27] <knome> vinnl, tbh, if there was a way to hide drafts easily, i can't see why that wasn't done already.
[16:27] <vinnl> Yeah I was surprised as well
[16:30] <mikubuntu> vinnl, got it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/422826/ but i just got a call to run take someone to work ... arrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh i will have to run, maybe you'll be around when i get back .. thx anyways, if not
[16:30] <vinnl> Haha OK :)
[16:31] <vinnl> Otherwise show that link again, other people can use it too :)
[16:31] <vinnl> (To help you)
[18:04] <mikubuntu> vinnl, you still here?
[18:05] <mikubuntu> guys just upgraded from karmic to lucid and i have five broken dependencies: devede, mencoder, mscore, python-launchpadlib, and wine , i can't figure out how to fix them
[18:05] <vinnl> mikubuntu, was just going to cook
[18:05] <vinnl> But I think there are enough people here that can help :)
[18:06] <mikubuntu> kool, no prob   http://paste.ubuntu.com/422826/
[18:06] <mikubuntu> i'd offer you some garlicy rotisserie chicken i just got at walmart, but it won't fit thru the tube
[18:07] <mikubuntu> anybody able to help me fix these broken apps from my upgrade to lucid?
[18:08] <mikubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422826/
[18:44] <mikubuntu> anybody able to help me fix these broken apps from my upgrade to lucid?
[18:44] <mikubuntu> guys just upgraded from karmic to lucid and i have five broken dependencies: devede, mencoder, mscore, python-launchpadlib, and wine , i can't figure out how to fix them
[18:45] <mikubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/422826/
[18:52] <charlie-tca> mikubuntu: have you tried installing them in terminal?
[18:52] <charlie-tca> It should give you an error or help message
[18:59] <Sachse_Siechtum> hey charlie-tca  :-) tried slitaz 3.0 and Lubuntu yesterday from live cd....slitaz booted up fine. Lubuntu booted up with a garbled screen. *g*
[18:59] <charlie-tca> heh
[18:59] <charlie-tca> lubuntu is based on ???
[18:59] <charlie-tca> ;-)
[19:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> ubuntu /Debian? *g*
[19:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> did I win something? *g*
[19:06] <charlie-tca> heh
[19:06] <charlie-tca> Yeah, the "won't work" award ?
[19:07] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL
[19:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'll give it to the guys at Lubuntu...hmm maybe my PC is too new....
[19:08] <charlie-tca> huh?
[19:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah since Lubuntu is for real low spec systems....
[19:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> or I gonna try a cooking version of Lubuntu
[19:11] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[19:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> or maybe the lucid beta
[19:11] <charlie-tca> or, maybe it is broken
[19:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> I meant lucid beta
[19:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> I tried the karmic beta
[19:11] <charlie-tca> Use the daily, it is the final image time
[19:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> do you have a link?
[19:12] <charlie-tca> !daily
[19:12] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:13] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok thanks
[19:13] <charlie-tca> to be honest, they are trying to get us the daily-live to test yet
[19:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmmm the daily live of Ubuntu?
[19:15] <charlie-tca> also
[19:15] <charlie-tca> oh
[19:15] <charlie-tca> you want ??
[19:15] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/
[19:16] <charlie-tca> has all the images
[19:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, and "cooking" version is the daily version of slitaz
[19:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> no I meant..are they trying to get you to test the daily-live of ubuntu?
[19:23] <charlie-tca> I test all the images that I can, time permitting
[19:25] <charlie-tca> Once the images are available, I will test all of xubuntu and much of Ubuntu
[19:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah I saw your entry on the Xubuntu Lucid RC  :-)
[20:14] <dima> i want to install 10.04 xubuntu but http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.04/beta-2/ isnt working
[20:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> dima, try xubuntu karmic koala
[20:15] <charlie-tca> The final image will be out April 29
[20:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> why isnt it working?
[20:15] <Sysi> !daily
[20:15] <charlie-tca> Except for Xubuntu you need to use
[20:15] <Sysi> try that, or xubuntu round there
[20:15] <Sysi> is rc out yet?
[20:15] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/
[20:16] <charlie-tca> yes, the rc is out
[20:16] <dima> but i came to xunbutu page and i see there link to 10.04 so why dont i take the one who i wont need to make upgrade after 4 days?
[20:16] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.04/rc/
[20:16] <charlie-tca> which is also why there is no beta 2 images
[20:16] <Sysi> i've had lucid since alpha ..2?
[20:16] <dima> ok im taking charlie-tca link
[20:17]  * vinnl thinks we need another website maintainer :)
[20:17] <dima> what website maintainer needs to do? be up to date with xubuntu news?
[20:17]  * charlie-tca thinks the one we have now is great!
[20:18] <vinnl> charlie-tca, heh, yes, the timely updates of the website prove that :P
[20:18] <dima> but link in webpage isnt working link from http://www.xubuntu.org/news/lucid/beta-2 to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.04/beta-2/
[20:18] <charlie-tca> vinnl, not exactly what I was thinking
[20:19] <dima> hows that is great?
[20:19] <charlie-tca> dima, that link is no good since the rc is out now
[20:19] <Sysi> and we still don't ave anything about lucid in topic
[20:19] <dima> yes im now dl from ur link. server very good. dl in 2 minutes
[20:19] <charlie-tca> dima, there is more to maintaining the website than one link
[20:19] <vinnl> dima, that's because there was no news announcement of the RC
[20:19] <vinnl> And the beta has been superseded by that
[20:20] <charlie-tca> Sysi, the tiopic here?
[20:20] <charlie-tca> It won't be updated for lucid until the final release
[20:20] <Sysi> for this channel, yes
[20:21] <charlie-tca> We prefer not to tell users to download and use the version that is not stable
[20:21] <Sysi>  we can't tel we have rc-version?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> Ummm, let me think now
[20:21] <vinnl> Sysi, not in a user support channel
[20:22] <Sysi> hmm, could be
[20:22] <charlie-tca> We normally don't tell in this channel because there is a possibility of really messing up someone's installation
[20:22] <dima> Sysi, better aboid getting users mad becouse they installed something whats crashed. if not fully tested some crash may occor.
[20:23] <charlie-tca> for those looking to help, they get support in #ubuntu+1
[20:55] <dima> i xubuntu 10.04 having also new design?
[20:56] <Sysi> at least new background
[20:57] <dima> hmm ok will then with some update be new branding? or branding doesnt come with updates?
[20:57] <Sysi> and some stuff like splashscreen also iirc
[20:57] <Sysi> they should come with updates
[20:57] <knome> depends if the developers will have time to update those packages
[21:13] <Joe_Rossi> hello?
[21:13] <knome> !hi | Joe_Rossi