[00:00] that's a good idea. [00:00] Nope, the GTK+ widget style definitely isn't persisting between sessions. Any idea how to fix this? [00:09] hola [00:09] ok setup is going well. just like an old,old unix shell. === luke is now known as Guest60102 [00:10] in apt-get the autoremove does purging or removing [00:10] .... can't say hehe [00:11] MARY === vit is now known as MARYCARMEN [00:12] HOLA [00:13] Hmm. When I change the GTK style in GTK+ Appearance in kcm, it writes a file ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4, whose contents look sensible. However this file gets deleted when I log out and log back in again, causing the style not to persist [00:13] apparle: based on the man pages, it just does a 'remove' [00:13] Typos_King: so there must be an autopurge also? [00:14] there is't one [00:14] I just saw an 'autoclean' [00:15] which just flushes the .deb in the archives [00:15] !ipod [00:15] For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod === truk is now known as kurticke [00:23] i am having problems putting songs on my ipod === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:34] endless installing of random stuff. [00:34] fun, fun. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:43] where can I get some help with kopete? [00:47] mamefan: sorry, I don't use it [00:47] mamefan: maybe there's a kopete channel though [00:58] Is there a webcam program (like Cheese for GTK) for Kubuntu? [01:02] here there.. are there other mirrors that I can download the release candidate of 10.04? The main link is too slow here... [01:04] why not just wait 3 more days? :P [01:04] and get the full-monty [01:04] 2 days rather [01:05] Typos_King: heh.. I think the RC will be the final release.. or not? [01:06] 2 days? are you going to die in 2days? :P [01:07] Typos_King: I don't Know.. anybody knows about that.. :-P [01:08] hey [01:09] man ive tried everything. can someone please tell me a very easy simple way to sync my ipod? [01:10] all im hearing is that ipod support in linux is a cinch but im having no luck. can somebody please help me? [01:10] i know u guys dont want to hear this but i am seriously considering switching back to windows considering the problems ive been havin [01:11] ncfi1013_: not having an ipod myself.. hehhe, can't say much, I do have an mp3 player, a few minutes ago I move around some files and added some, with np ^_^ [01:23] v [01:40] hi guys, i have kbuntu installed but am having a hard time trying to find out where the iptable rules are saved [01:40] any hints? [01:44] heheh [01:44] iptable rules are can't say.... I've bothered... you can use something like .. [01:44] !firewall [01:44] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist. [01:45] ^ [01:45] there's also a Kmyfirewall too [01:45] guarddog interface isn't so bad either [01:55] yeah i don't know but at some stage during the start up the rules are getting added [01:55] ufw isn't enabled [01:55] and i'm not using any other fw mgmt tools [01:55] at least i don't think [01:56] hehe [01:57] eradiate: I never checked where the rules are stored, but the firewalling in linux is built-in the kernel, is not a separate app or anything [01:58] Typos_King: well netfilter is built into the kernel, but the iptable rules that gets loaded has to be somewhere right [01:59] yeah [01:59] and everytime i reboot, the rules automagically gets loaded [01:59] but eehhhhh i'm not sure where [02:01] anyone here familiar with kvm [02:01] I've used KVM a bit, got tired of it, and started useing openbox [02:02] err,, virtualbox [02:03] Just put your rules in a script and load that on startup? [02:04] i can .. but i'm bothered by why i can't find the one that it's using to load itup [02:04] i mean by default does kubuntu come with a preset of rules ? [02:04] defined somewhere [02:06] After upgrading to Lucid, my ctrl capslock swap is not working from Regional Settings. Any ideas how to fix this? [02:07] Everything is allowed by default I think. So no specific rules would be used. [02:07] helo [02:07] hlo Sicko [02:07] helo there [02:08] im new in this channel [02:08] its nice to be here [02:08] but aweful to be you :) [02:09] PRIME! [02:09] yup [02:09] i know its sad [02:10] about the ctrl capslock swap, the check box is selected to do this, but it does not seem to be working. [02:11] Sick0fMyself: The good news is that as soon as you change channels, you can be someone else!!! [02:11] someone less sickening [02:12] PRIME! [02:13] but you better register on freenode first! [02:13] your other self that is. [02:14] ...anyway, any clues as to why the CTRL Capslock swap is not working. Could this be a bug. Could someone try this to see if they can do it on their system? === bruno is now known as Guest60262 [02:34] ? [02:35] alguem ae? === islington_ is now known as islington === tek is now known as Teknical [02:44] can anyone tell me how to change the bright pink clicked link color in konqueror? [02:47] Hay, does anyone have Limewire install on the Kubuntu 10.04 LTS RC? [02:49] terabreaker : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion. [02:49] Oh okay [02:49] Would anyone be willing to help me verify a bug? [02:50] !ask | fortunev [02:50] fortunev: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [02:51] can anyone tell me how to change the bright pink clicked link color in konqueror? [02:53] I would like to test if the Ctrl Caps Lock swap is working in 10.04. It seems to be broken on my install. Has anyone gotten this to work on their 10.04? [02:53] Teknical: you can create a different stylesheet and configure it under appearance [02:53] hey there.. after a upgrade to lucid, the opengl + intel stopped to work.. the composite only work (half) with XRender.. [02:53] is there any bug in mesa 7.7.1 with intel gpu? [02:54] fortunev: ctrl caps lock swap? [02:54] Squidy_: Did you search on LP for such a bug? [02:56] txwikinger: i`ve searched.. but I haven't found... [02:56] txwikinger: Under Settings > Regional Settings > Keyboard > Advanced Tab. There is an option to swap the Caps Lock Key and the Ctrl key. It seems to be broken on my install, but was hoping someone else could give it a shot. [02:59] Don't see the ctrl caps swap... but the esc caps swap works [03:00] hey [03:00] can someone answer a flash question with my video card [03:00] when i play a youtube video its really choppy [03:00] i have the driver installed [recommended] in hardware drivers [03:00] any one know why it would still be choppy?? [03:00] phil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:00] txwikinger: Its way down under "-Ctrl key position" [03:00] sorry [03:01] can someome whisper me whos really smart with video drivers [03:01] i have a question [03:01] phil: The irc god is gona roast you [03:02] oo [03:02] thats bad :P [03:02] Just ask [03:02] k when i play videos it lags and is really choppy [03:02] phil: cause it takes one to know one :) [03:02] i have the recomended driver installed [03:02] and it still is choppy [03:02] kubuntu 9.04 [03:02] any ideas? [03:03] fortunev: works [03:03] check the system monitor [03:03] and look for what ? [03:04] might be cpu shortage, memory or i/o [03:04] i have a 2.53 ghz and 1.5 gb ram [03:04] txwikinger: Arrrgggg.... thanks. [03:04] well.. how much other stuff are you running [03:04] kopete and kde wallet :P [03:05] do you play the video from dvd? [03:05] youtube [03:05] and nhl.com [03:06] well.. that could be latencies in the network also [03:06] yeah [03:06] specially nhl should be overloaded atm [03:06] my XPlaptop works no lag tho : / [03:06] ok [03:07] well.. I would look at the system monitoring [03:07] maybe you see something hogging too much resources [03:11] gah sorry [03:11] plasma is taking % [03:11] 100 [03:13] any ideas lol [03:14] well.. that seems to be the issue [03:15] i ended it and my whole screen went black :) [03:15] well.. plasma runs the desktop [03:16] yeah :P [03:16] surprisingly kubuntu uses more ram and stuff then my ubuntu did :P [03:16] yeah i cant even click the goals [03:17] on nhl [03:22] so how do i find out why plasma is taking up 100% === saint_ is now known as Sa[i]nT [03:36] how do you make your grub show in 10.04? [03:37] Sa[i]nT: hold down shift [03:37] Sa[i]nT: and btw, Lucid/10.04 discussion and support goes in #ubuntu+1, even for Kubuntu 10.04. [03:38] all i needed to know was how to show my grub [03:39] and it wrked and fixed my problem === DarkwingDuck_ is now known as DarkwingDuck [04:06] how can i block the notifications by kopete for when my contacts log in and out, yet retain the new message notifications? [04:06] im on kubuntu 10.04 RC, btw === bryan is now known as Guest77692 [04:29] anyone know how to fix a broken package source in ubuntu? [05:18] is there a way to convert ubuntu into debian through repos and other means? [05:21] demism: not really, iirc. there are just enough differences to make it a lot of trouble === bryan is now known as Guest38142 [05:42] My system only seems to be able to find my root filesystem one in every four or five boots. Any ideas why this is? [05:43] thinking... [05:44] not sure [05:55] Hii all.. what is this nepomuk stuff all about.. have googled a lot about it... read lot of articles but just dont seem to understand ,all I get to know is that it makes searching easier on your computer.. but then was searching for something on your system ever tough [06:23] Hii all.. what is this nepomuk stuff all about.. have googled a lot about it... read lot of articles but just dont seem to understand ,all I get to know is that it makes searching easier on your computer.. but then was searching for something on your system ever tough === saint_ is now known as Guest99546 [06:37] vivek_: it allows you to search by tags, not only file names and content [06:37] !nepomuk [06:38] hm... [06:38] Mamarok:looks like Ubottu is confused as well [06:38] well, it just has no factoid so far [06:38] vivek_: look for it on http://userbase.kde.org, the only reliable source for all things KDE [06:40] I am just enabling strigi .. and thus nepomuk and I seem to realise that it is actually heavy on resources... searching by tags I mean is that not tough that I have top create tags as well for evry file now ehile saving it Mamarok: [06:41] yes, since it has to create an index and takes /home/username as default folder. You can teweak it in the SystemSettings -> Advanced tab -> desktop search, though [06:41] but it needs several GB for the index [06:41] if you don't need tags on files, just don't activate it, then [06:42] since the default search in Dolphin an look for filenames and text content [06:42] can* [06:42] * Mamarok has to run [06:42] Several GB( well I have 225GB of hard disk and 2GB RAM) ...! [06:42] bye Mamarok: [06:42] thanks [06:42] vivek_: you are welcome :) [06:43] does anyone else out there knows a little more === dennis is now known as Berg === bryan is now known as Guest21719 [07:29] any helpers out there. i cant seem to mount my second hdd in terminal, [07:31] ? [07:31] mount /dev/sdb /new dosnt seem to work [07:33] i get error message "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" [07:33] but when i put in the command and a file system type it just prints out lots of mount options [07:34] eamon, use the -t option (as in -t ext3 [07:34] yeah iv tried it just spit out mount options [07:34] eamon, but I suspect you just forgot to specify a number after /dev/sdb [07:38] just do a sudo parted /dev/sdb print to find out [07:39] my system hdd is /dev/sda and /dev/sdb is my storage hdd [07:39] dows that sound right? [07:39] you don't really mount the drives. you mount the partitions on the drives [07:40] if you want to be really picky, you mount the filesystems on the partitions :) [07:41] I guess so :-) [07:41] well i cant seem to mount anything at the moment. [07:56] hello [07:58] есть кто живой [08:03] че ето за хуйня === mike is now known as Guest36584 [08:03] hi [08:04] sinanka hi [08:04] Who is Russia??? [08:05] ubottu: ru | andrey__ [08:05] andrey__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [08:06] fack you!!!! [08:18] what`s new [08:22] s === tim is now known as Timsen [08:24] hi, I run 10.04 now (fresh install) if I add a shortcut to start an app (adding via menu editor) kde does not react if I press this key combo to start the app then - how can I debug the reason? === Hazamonzo_ is now known as Hazamonzo [09:11] Hi, after a default 10.04 install I have 24 locales (locale -a) I would like to reduce to my two main locales, how can I remove the other locales? [09:12] !info locale-purge [09:12] Package locale-purge does not exist in karmic [09:12] bahh /msg ubottu [09:13] I can not log gives me a black screen and reboot ... how to help me reinstall [09:13] kubuntu 10.04rc1 help [09:13] @moetunes you had a typo I found localepurge in repo - I will check this [09:14] that's what I was looking for Timsen ... [09:15] SuN__: you were told in #ubuntu you need to ask that in the channel for 10.04 - type /j #ubuntu+1 [09:19] I can't start KDE. Splash screen comes up, hard drive icon fades in, then it freezes before "tools" icon fades in. I think it may be something to do with my user settings that's broken, but I don't know what to look for. What can I look for to troubleshoot? [09:19] I'll describe how the problem started in pastebin [09:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/423238/ [09:21] Neil_Haskins is it is user based - have you tried to rename your home folder in /home/ and to login in with a new created folder? [09:21] -is +if [09:22] How would that work? This is my first day "really" using linux :) [09:23] if you are at the login manager you can switch to a virtual terminal via strg+alt+f1 - there you can login and from there you can rename the home folder via console [09:23] I kind find the rename command I'm sure, but I don't understand what you mean by login with a new folder [09:24] strg? [09:24] if you try to login kde check if there is already a folder /home/neil (for example) if not kde creates a new one [09:24] strg=ctrl [09:25] so I need to create a new folder in home with my username? [09:25] Where is the apt repository for KDE (Ubuntu) packages? [09:26] just rename ~/.kde to ~/kde-old Neil_Haskins [09:26] SorryKnowledgeLe: /var/cache/apt/archives [09:27] moetunes: thanks, but i mean on the Internet. Where do I retrieve from? "deb" line in sources.list. [09:27] o [09:27] I have archive.ubuntu.com , but I suspect that Kubuntu packages are missing, along with kdevelop [09:28] one min [09:29] Or instead of telling me, put it in the wiki. :) [09:30] I can not log gives me a black screen and reboot ... how to help me reinstall [09:33] SorryKnowledgeLe: I just have the ubuntu repos - that includes xubuntu and kubuntu stuff - have you enabled the extra repos? [09:33] !universe [09:33] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [09:33] SorryKnowledgeLe: ^^ [09:34] moetunes: you installed kubuntu from image? I have enabled: lucid main universe multiverse restricted [09:34] maybe kdevelop just does not exist yet [09:34] SorryKnowledgeLe: yep - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu [09:34] maybe [09:35] SorryKnowledgeLe: is it just kdevelop that's missing? [09:37] ~/.kde is in the root folder? or where? @ moetunes [09:38] Neil_Haskins: the ~ means your home folder - ls -a will show it [09:38] recovery kubuntu desktop fix form cd ? [09:39] moetunes: KDE language internationalization is also missing: kde-l10n . I see these things still because I am looking at dependencies. Dependencies of kde-devel right now. [09:39] hey folks. is there a way i can map a remote drive as a local one over ssh? [09:39] SorryKnowledgeLe: done an apt-get update lately? [09:40] I want to be able to use a local IDE to edit files on a remote server [09:40] moetunes: yes. [09:40] k [09:40] i can use fish:// in dolphin to edit files i load from dolphin [09:40] but i can't access these files in third party tools [09:42] SorryKnowledgeLe: try an apt-cache search kde-l10n it be in another package [09:42] *might [09:43] Hazamonzo: an network based FS. There are many. NFS is common. [09:43] Hazamonzo: or if they should be version controlled, a version control system. [09:44] SorryKnowledgeLe: Okay. Im not fussed about the version control at the moment. I just need to map this remote drive. I'll look inti the first solution NFS [09:45] moetunes: i see many matches for what you wrote. Perhaps kdevelop is not available for lucid. [09:45] SorryKnowledgeLe: try an apt-cache search kdevelop maybe [09:46] moetunes: no match for me. Do you get a match when you do that? [09:46] SorryKnowledgeLe: yep but I'm not on lucid [09:46] from in my home folder I ran "rename .kde kde-old" and I got [09:46] syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "." @ moetunes [09:47] SorryKnowledgeLe: somene in #ubuntu+1 might know [09:47] moetunes: once again, thanks. [09:47] Neil_Haskins: from what command pls? [09:48] k np :] [09:49] as in "haskins@jean-luc:~$" @ moetunes [09:49] haskins = user, jean-luc = computer [09:51] Neil_Haskins: that's your prompt - how did you get that error? [09:53] I typed the command "rename .kde kde-old" and in response I got syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "." @ moetunes [09:54] Neil_Haskins: try rename ./.kde ./.kde-old [09:55] OK, returned "search pattern not terminated at (eval 1), line 1." @moetunes [09:56] Neil_Haskins: try mv -v ./.kde ./.kde-old [09:56] I don't use rename ... [09:58] looks to have worked './.kde' -> './.kde-old' [09:58] now can I run startx @ moetunes [09:58] Neil_Haskins: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart [10:02] offered an alternate way to restart, but last line returned was "kdm start/running, process 1489" now what? @ moetunes [10:02] Neil_Haskins: what was the alternative? [10:06] rather than invoking inti scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service kdm restart [10:06] Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart kdm [10:06] kdm start/running, process 1489 @ moetunes [10:06] inti = init [10:06] Neil_Haskins: then sudo service kdm restart [10:07] restart: Unknown instance: @ moetunes [10:08] Neil_Haskins: then try sudo service kdm stop and sudo service kdm start maybe [10:11] stop: Unknown instance: [10:11] then after "sudo service kdm start" [10:11] kdm start/running, process 1533 @ moetunes [10:11] thanks for your help, btw [10:12] Neil_Haskins: happy for you :] [10:12] So we're clear though, I'm still at a command prompt :) [10:12] o [10:13] Neil_Haskins: try alt+f7 [10:14] no response @ moetunes [10:14] Hii since yesterday I am getting this message whenever i switch on my system "the audio playback device HDA Intel(ALC888 Analog) does not work. Falling back to HDA Intel(ALC888 Digital).. Does anyone have a clue === unknown_ is now known as Samuel === Samuel is now known as Shaba [10:15] Neil_Haskins: time to try startx [10:16] iconmefisto:Hii [10:17] just did :) WORKS Thanks for your help and your time, I really appreciate it. @ moetunes [10:17] luck Neil_Haskins :] [10:17] moetunes: help me too :-) [10:18] vivek_: I know nothing about hd sound sorry [10:18] hmmm someone please help [10:40] tried to sned another email and had to do the same thing all over again (took 5 minutes instead of 6 hours this time). I'm gonna stick to webmail for awhile. Goodnight :) === me is now known as Guest14685 [11:44] hi === Guest14685 is now known as useless_dream [11:48] Hi! [11:48] * terran4000 listens to the tumbleweeds [11:55] who is pussy here? === jtheuer__ is now known as jtheuer === ahmed is now known as Guest30480 [12:39] hi [12:41] hi [13:01] what is the kubuntu equivalent of windows charmap or ubuntu character map? === patrick is now known as Guest79213 [13:09] amichair: um theres a plasmoid [13:09] amichair: in kde 4.4.2 its called character selector [13:11] shadeslayer: thanks, but it doesn't quite do what I need (no unicode, can't search, etc.) [13:11] amichair: ah well.. [13:12] shadeslayer: and being a plasmoid makes it pretty inconvenient... I wouldn't want it there all the time, only for short lookups while working in other windows... but that's a different matter :-) [13:13] amichair: hehe.. well i have gnome installed as well,so when i type charmap i get the gnome app [13:13] shadeslayer: but thanks anyway. for now google is an ok workaround :-) [13:13] cant find a kde specific app in the repos [13:13] amichair: hehe :) === jorgino is now known as doro === doro is now known as jorgino_ [13:22] hi === jorgino_ is now known as schwuli [13:22] halooo === schwuli is now known as doro === jorgino_ is now known as lopez === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer === lopez is now known as hallo === hallo is now known as fotze === fotze is now known as monti === monti is now known as ghostwiperer === ghostwiperer is now known as langweile === langweile is now known as medium === medium is now known as linux-kubuntu === michel is now known as MikHel [14:28] Hi guys. I'm having trouble with setting widget styles for GTK applications in KDE (installed on top of Ubuntu 9.10). I go in through the System Settings, Appearance, GTK+ Appearance, and select a widget style. Only problem is, this isn't actually applied and it doesn't persist between sessions. [14:29] Clicking 'apply' in that dialogue box does seem to create a ~/.gtkrc-2.0-lde4, but it's not used [14:29] dmhouse: youll have to refresh the cache and restart the app [14:29] dmhouse: refresh cache with : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental [14:30] shadeslayer: that doesn't change anything [14:31] Moreover, the settings are forgotten when I log out and back in again [14:31] dmhouse: no idea then :( [14:33] Hey folks [14:33] BluesKaj: Hey :) [14:34] hi shadeslayer :) [14:42] I was lectured for not recommending kdesudo usage for graphical app installation the other day , some thing to do with boot authentication of X and some graphics drivers , I think. shadeslayer have you heard anything about this ? [14:43] BluesKaj: nope... [14:43] BluesKaj: you might get more info at #kubuntu-devel [14:43] shadeslayer, apparently this issue has been around since jaunty [14:43] BluesKaj: is was about not recommending "sudo", not "kdesudo" [14:44] kdesudo fixes those issues with GUI apps [14:44] well like tsimpson is saying, use kdesudo for graphical apps and sudo for commands [14:44] sudo does not change $HOME by default, and does not setup the X env [14:44] kdesudo does all that for you [14:45] it's not just a pretty GUI, KDE has that already [14:46] help me ! [14:46] Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory [14:46] ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory [14:46] ??? [14:46] ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [14:47] Okay, next question. I can't get the network manager applet to connect to my wireless network. I'm sure I'm putting all the details in correctly but it gets forever stuck at the 'Activating' stage. Nothing is shown in dmesg either. [14:48] check routes [14:48] Well, it gets stuck for a while then asks me for the password. I enter it and it goes back to 'Activating' [14:48] dmhouse: this is directly from kde upstream : Switch to plasma-widget-networkmanager [14:48] although it still is in development,its pretty good at managing networks now,atleast better than kde-networkmanager [14:48] shadeslayer: you mean plasma-widget-networkmanagement? That's what I'm using [14:48] dmhouse: yeah :) [14:49] I can also connect under GNOME just fine. [14:49] dmhouse: oh.. well [14:49] Landgraf: how do I do that? [14:49] tsimpson, well, what's the alternative then ? [14:49] dmhouse: 1 moment [14:50] Landgraf: all the routes listed when I run "sudo route" are for eth0 [14:50] BluesKaj: for GUI apps, kdesudo [14:50] there's nothing stopping you from running CLI apps with it too btw [14:50] unless you have no X running [14:50] hehe.. [14:50] shadeslayer: perhaps I'll try kde-networkmanager :) [14:50] dmhouse: \o/ [14:50] dmhouse: well whatever works best :P [14:51] dmhouse: route -n [14:51] tsimpson, that's what I meant ...installing with kdesudo in the cli , rather than sudo [14:51] shadeslayer: hmm, no package for that in apt [14:51] Landgraf: same table. They're all for eth0. [14:51] dmhouse: network-manager-kde [14:52] BluesKaj: if you aren't running a GUI app, you don't need kdesudo [14:52] shadeslayer: nope... there is a kwlan though [14:52] dmhouse: try "sudo pon " [14:52] tsimpson, uhmm yeah [14:53] dmhouse: wth... [14:53] !find network-manager-kde [14:53] Package/file network-manager-kde does not exist in karmic [14:53] dmhouse: oh i get it.. im on lucid :P [14:53] Landgraf: my "tonnel name?" [14:54] You mean the SSID of the wireless network? [14:54] dmhouse: ops, i tune without GUI, i named tonnel [14:55] dmhouse: for you: write vpn name [14:55] Landgraf: I don't know what you men [14:55] *mean [14:56] Hey, how do you delete a menu item? [14:57] dmhouse: mayby you do it without GUI? [14:57] Landgraf: do what without GUI? [14:58] dmhouse: writing in config files [14:58] i have manual [14:58] Erm, sure, but what do I need to actually do? [14:58]