[00:06] How do I go about changing the license for my project? It says I need a subscription to host files with the current license. I just want to have a license thats pretty much do whatever the heck you want with it kinda license. [00:07] NM found it. [00:08] wgrant, ok. done. ive changed my gpg key [00:08] wgrant, do i need to upload my pkg again ? [00:09] piju: You do. [00:10] wgrant, using dput ? [00:33] doctormo: the pastebin url you pasted in -audio-help expired. [00:35] Hi all. [00:36] Anyone available to help with an apparent locking problem on LP/bzr? [00:41] jamestait, what's up? [00:42] Oh hey beuno. :) [00:42] I can't seem to push my branch up to Launchpad, and break-lock isn't helping. [00:43] I'm trying to push up to lp:hedera/thunderbird3, two small changes, committed locally. [00:43] The error message I'm seeing is: [00:43] bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', "Cannot lock LockDir(lp-67253904:///~jamestait/hedera/thunderbird3/.bzr/branchlock): File exists: u'/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/push-branches/00/04/fc/b9/.bzr/branch/lock': [Errno 17] File exists: '/srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/push-branches/00/04/fc/b9/.bzr/branch/lock'") [00:44] I've seen similar reports, but haven't yet found a solution. [00:46] I have a question about projects where there is rapid development and lots of new strings being added, and modified all the time === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [00:53] jamestait: have you tried: bzr break-lock lp:~jamestait/hedera/thunderbird3 [00:54] thumper: I have, but it didn't help. I read a thread that I might need to run it twice to get it to work, but that didn't help either. [00:55] jamestait: let me try [01:00] No joy? [01:00] it tells me it isn't locked [01:01] or at least it gave no response to a break-lock [01:01] what is your push command? [01:01] I get no response to break-lock either. [01:01] bzr push --remember lp:~jamestait/hedera/thunderbird3 [01:02] Having previously executed bzr launchpad-login jamestait [01:02] thumper, I think jamestait's problem is Launchpad locks branches for some reason, I've had to ask mwhudson to unlock them before [01:03] ignore me [01:03] hmm [01:03] this doesn't seem to be the case [01:03] that error is strange [01:03] it usually shows a message on the web ui when it happens [01:03] jamestait: your trunk branch is now stacked on a non-trunk branch [01:04] locking failure shouldn't be a server side error [01:04] i bet stacking is involved somewhere yeah [01:04] beuno: I seem to recall when I tried to view the thunderbird3 branch in the web UI, I got an error. Lemme try that again. [01:04] jamestait: we could unstack your trunk branch [01:05] jamestait: by going bzr reconfigures --unstacked lp:hedera ( I hope) [01:05] jamestait: although it seemed to get itself a bit confused last time I tried that [01:05] jamestait: it worked but said it had problems [01:06] When I try to view the thunderbird3 branch content I get a page that says "Internal Server Error" [01:06] Wonder how I managed to do this. :-/ [01:08] The difference between what I'm trying to push and what should currently be in lp:~jamestait/hedera/trunk is small - just a couple of e-mail address changes in debian/ [01:08] I'm fine with the thunderbird3 branch being killed off and /trunk made the development focus again and re-branching if that's what's needed. [01:09] jamestait: it shouldn't be necessary [01:10] I wonder how trunk became stacked - it should be the other way around. [01:11] jamestait: you would have pushed the branch first, then changed the dev focus [01:13] Yup, you're right, of course. :) [01:14] That's what it looks like in my command history anyway. [01:16] I think I'd better leave it for this evening (morning) and come at it tomorrow with a fresh head and a little more time. :) [01:16] jamestait: sure [01:17] Thanks for the help, I'll be back rather earlier after work. [01:17] ttfn :) === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [06:39] I'm seeing timeouts trying to upload to a PPA. Is this a known issue? [06:40] jamesh: Looks OK to me. [06:40] As in FTP connection timeouts? [06:40] yeah [06:41] I can connect fine. [06:41] sometimes uploads the first file, fails on the next [06:41] Hmm. [06:41] other times it times out on the first [06:44] jamesh: possibly some internet filtering system is suspecting you of doing rude things? and hence dropping your connection? PPA could have all sorts of rude expansion..... [06:45] jamesh: less seriously, is this a rather large file? I know I can't get the librarian to accept large files from Oz. 10-20mb ish size.... [06:45] spm: less than a megabyte [06:45] spm: and the ppa uploads go via ftp [06:47] jamesh: bleh. shouldn't be that then. can you pls lodge a bug with as much timing/date-times info as possible? I suspect it'll come back to us, but it may be stevenk's fault. [06:53] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ having problems? [06:55] RM87: seems ok to me [06:58] spiv: loggerhead is working for you? [06:58] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ is down? [06:59] now seems to be working again [07:00] after trying for 20min it comes back up when i ask in irc. phew :D thanks! [07:00] micahg: yes [07:00] spiv: working for me now too :) [07:01] wasn't a couple minutes ago [07:01] oh bother it is playing up. my bad, musta missed the sms somehow. [07:05] backtrace taken; stopped/started. should be good again. [07:06] spm: What have I done with uploads? [07:07] StevenK: nothing, yet. ;-) [07:07] StevenK: is more james was having woe; thats part of soyuz, so are you. ergo, your fault. [07:08] spm: just rebooted my router and things seem to be better. [07:09] jamesh_: ahh, cool. [07:09] maybe it ran out of memory or something [07:09] they do run on very fine tolerances... possibly. :-/ [07:10] I guess even routers that come with GPL notices have their problems ... === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh [07:10] ha [07:11] some sort of virus infected source code. unamerican even. [07:14] spm: Don't make me work from Canberra tomorrow. :-P [07:14] StevenK: ?? are you after a decent 'net connection or smoething? [07:14] spm: Yes -- I've worked/am working from my mothers house today. [07:19] is there a way to clean up ppa, buy removing few source packages which have failed to build? [07:23] PPAs have a "Delete Packages" link [07:26] maxb, not the entire ppa [07:27] that's not what you asked for :-) [07:27] maxb, Delete packages [07:27] :0) [07:27] maxb, thanks [07:29] maxb, it said deleted on request, phew thanks again === jsk-afk is now known as jsk [11:55] So, we've an applicant before the Asia/Oceania RMB who reports that translations history is regularly scrubbed from launchpad. Can anyone confirm this? Is there already a bug about it? [12:01] hi persia, if I'm not mistaken, it's the translation karma that decreases, but the translation history always remains in the form of credits and attribution of each translated string for each template in which the translator contributed. danilos, henninge or jtv might be able to tell more [12:02] persia: translations history is not scrubbed, no. But I can imagine a few other things happening: [12:02] dpm: My issue is that https://translations.launchpad.net/people/+me doesn't seem to have a complete history. Should it? [12:03] persia, have you looked at https://translations.launchpad.net/people/+me/+activity instead? [12:03] persia, there is a badly placed "See all" link on your translations homepage which you can follow to get there [12:03] danilos: That's precisely what I wanted. Thanks! [12:04] persia, yaw :) === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === noodles775 changed the topic of #launchpad to: 10 === noodles775 changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net/ | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Code browsing was producing Internal Server Errors -- should be working as normal now === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [13:25] why launchpad says "No REFERER Header" when i am trying to do anything in launchpad? === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [13:55] hi does anyone know if the PPA's are overburdened? im getting very slow download speeds from the chromium daily ppa [13:55] no doubt it's people trying to download lucid already [13:56] and the bandwidth is getting soaked [13:56] hmm [13:56] well my local mirror download speed is good,but my ppa speeds are slow [13:56] at the last release we had a lot of people asking the same question [13:56] 4-5 KBps :P [13:57] PPAs are not mirrored, they're served from the London DC [13:57] bigjools: ah ok,so its a known phenomenon :) [13:57] yep [14:04] bigjools: isnt there a different mirror for ppa's :P === doko_ is now known as doko [14:34] why launchpad says "No REFERER Header" when i am trying to do anything in launchpad? [14:36] tommis: oh are you behind a proxy? [14:36] i dunno :/ [14:37] tommis: well i was experiencing this and my proxy was blocking the lp headers [14:37] okei then, how do i fix it? [14:38] tommis: *if* youre behind a proxy,talk to the admins,they will have to unblock the headers from the server side [14:39] hmm, i don't know any admin :/ [14:39] btw, the referer header is not a "launchpad header", it's supposed to be supported by any standards-compliant browser [14:39] so if an admin blocked it, they need slapping with a large trout [14:39] hehe [14:39] hihi [14:40] Looks like there is a really long queue at the amd64 build farm [14:40] for ppas [14:41] I just uploaded a package, only to find out that it will be built after 5 days (after lucid release) ! [14:41] bilalakhtar: there is, but they're mostly very low priority builds, so anything you upload *should* not take 5 days? Where is your build? [14:42] noodles775: oh just checked it, and found mine will be built in an hour. here it is https://launchpad.net/~gnome-media-player-development/+archive/development/+build/1708640 [14:42] most of the build systems will be geared towards the "final" ubuntu packages this close to release [14:42] bilalakhtar: yep, great. So it's a bit misleading, but the "five days" mentioned on the builders page is how long it will take currently to clear the queue. When you upload, your builds have a higher priority than most of those in the queue (rebuilds). [14:43] I didn't understand one thing. What are the official distribution builders for? If they are for main, universe, etc, then I want to say that I noticed motu's uploading prebuilt packages directly also [14:46] the "official" ones are for building packages for distributions registered on LP [14:46] bilalakhtar: What suggests that we upload prebuilt packages? [14:46] It's not possible. [14:46] bilalakhtar: Launchpad outright forbids uploading prebuilt binary packages. === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [14:48] wgrant: prebuilt means built on your own system using pbuilder [14:48] wgrant: not built on lp [14:48] bilalakhtar: People *test* builds with pbuilder. [14:48] anyone know whether that's a bug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/423372/ ? [14:48] They do not upload the resulting binaries. [14:49] james_w: What looks like a bug? [14:49] wgrant: oh, so all the packages are built on lp? [14:49] wgrant: what does "Not" mean? [14:49] Besides the 'Not' as a priority -- but that's the name of the priority, and it's always been like that. [14:49] james_w: Not a priority, I guess. [14:49] ah [14:49] bilalakhtar: Right. [14:49] Undefined..... not! [14:49] * bilalakhtar understands now [14:49] the priority of this blueprint is now not undefined! [14:50] lol [14:50] Heh, yes. [14:50] Who selects the projects to be displayed on the front page as featured projects? [14:50] bilalakhtar: its just randomn i think [14:50] bilalakhtar: mrevell is your guy [14:50] shadeslayer: no, it's not random [14:51] mrevell is for what? getting projects into the featured list [14:51] ? [14:51] bilalakhtar, Hi there! Which is your project? [14:51] mrevell: https://launchpad.net/gnome-media-player [14:52] Thanks bilalakhtar, I'll take a look. [15:03] mrevell: seen? [15:03] bilalakhtar: hehe... itll probably take some time :P [15:03] shadeslayer: fine [15:05] bilalakhtar, Hey, is this a relatively new project? [15:05] mrevell: somewhat [15:06] mrevell: it was https://launchpad.net/gnome-vlc earlier [15:07] Thanks for the link bilalakhtar. Leave it with me, I'm in the middle of a few things right now and I'll need to take a thorough look at the project. Thanks for pointing it out to me. [15:07] * coekie still looking for someone to unblock his account [15:07] mrevell: fine. no problem. take your time [15:08] coekie: why did your account get blocked? [15:08] no idea. it just says "Your account has been deactivated." [15:08] coekie: what was your lp page? [15:09] note that I haven't used launchpad for a very long time (even forgot I had an account) [15:09] lp page? [15:09] coekie: launchpad id? [15:10] my email is wouter@coekaerts.be (and that's all I know) [15:10] coekie: like mine is : launchpad.net/~rohangarg , the part after ~ is really important :P [15:10] im guessing its ~wouter [15:11] no, that's someone else [15:11] fine, bye, guys! [15:12] I and the "forgot your password" page also doesn't let you know the username [15:13] I'd even be happy if it just forgot this other account under my email which I don't know about and I'd be able to register a new one... [15:14] (and I can't reset my password because it says my account is deactivated) [15:14] do i need to sign *.dsc to upload to my PPA ? [15:15] piju: yes [15:15] bigjools, *.dsc, *.changes and *.tar.gz ? [15:15] .dsc and .changes need to be signed [15:16] bigjools, using key that i have upload to PPA ? [15:16] piju: the key that you associated with your LP account [15:16] i got this error [15:16] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! [15:16] gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [15:17] piju: you imported your gpg keys right? [15:17] shadeslayer_, yes [15:17] piju: you need to trust them ultimately... [15:17] shadeslayer_, how ? [15:17] youll need to edit the keys... [15:17] um.. google :P [15:19] shadeslayer_, done === shadesla1er_ is now known as shadeslayer === shadeslayer is now known as Guest23574 [15:20] shadeslayer how long it takes for LP to upload my pkg ? === Guest23574 is now known as shadeslayer [15:21] bigjools, how long it takes for my pkg to be appear at LP ? [15:21] after i uploaded them all ? [15:21] piju: a few minutes,depending on the length of the queue [15:21] shadeslayer, ok tq [15:21] up to 5 minutes [15:21] usually 5 mins [15:22] if you don't get an email then you got something wrong :) [15:22] can somebody remind me what I have to do to create a team on launchpad with special requirements ? (I work at canonical and it's not letting me put canonical in my team name) [15:22] michaelforrest: ask a LOSA [15:22] bigjools: if you get a email then something is wrong :P [15:22] bigjools: please expand on the meaning of the acronym 'LOSA' [15:22] well in both conditions you get a email [15:23] michaelforrest: will contact you internally, one sec === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [15:23] shadeslayer_: wrong, you will not get an email if the key is not known or the changes file is mangled [15:23] ah.. [15:24] but when we have an sftp server in the not too far future, that'll change :) [15:24] bigjools: what will happen then? and btw where are these build machines located? [15:25] shadeslayer_: the build farm? It's in London. [15:25] when we have sftp, the rejection will be on the spot if there's any gpg failure [15:25] ah.. nice :) [15:26] bigjools: can people contribute machines from elsewhere? [15:26] no [15:26] maybe in the future, but there's no plan [15:26] ok.. [15:27] bigjools: well that would take alot of load off the PPA's [15:27] well atleast PPA's should be mirrored imo [15:27] it would, but then you're less able to trust the build [15:27] It would take a lot of the security off, too. [15:27] hmm [15:27] well ive gtg..cya :) [15:35] shadeslayer_, my pkg dont appear at all [15:39] bigjools, 5 minutes already [15:39] piju: did you get an email? [15:40] yes [15:40] bigjools, errors [15:40] there ya go [15:41] hi all, the 'top translation contributors'-page on LP seems to be broken. Now I can't see how much work I must do to beat the next on the list :( [15:41] https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/nl [15:42] trijntje: what do you mean by "broken"? I can see the page ok. [15:43] trijntje, henninge I think there was a recent bug in LP Translations about that [15:43] Bug 564852 [15:43] Launchpad bug 564852 in rosetta "Top contributors list broken" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564852 [15:43] henninge, The order of the translators is the wrong way, at the top is someone with 1 karma [15:44] trijntje: Ah, I see. Use edge, then. At lest until the next Launchpad release next week. ;-) [15:45] trijntje: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+languages/nl [15:45] thanks dpm, wgrant [15:46] ah thanks all, i'm all happy again ;) [15:49] bigjools, what does it said ? [15:50] piju: pardon [15:50] ? [15:50] Rejected: [15:50] psk31lx_1.2-1-9w2pju.dsc: Unknown section 'unknown' [15:50] psk31lx_1.2-1-9w2pju.tar.gz: Unknown section 'unknown' [15:50] psk31lx_1.2-1-9w2pju_amd64.deb: Unknown section 'unknown' [15:50] Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error. [15:50] what is unknown ? [15:51] you need to specify a valid Debian section [15:51] where? === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:01] piju: in the debian/control file [16:02] shadeslayer_, ok [16:12] how do I delete a ppa completely? [16:13] om26er: youll have to ask one of the admins [16:13] om26er: oh and the ppa should not contain published packages [16:14] Or you could wait a few days and be able to just click yourself to do it (thanks to bigjools and cody-somerville). [16:14] noodles775, yeah I can wait [16:14] noodles775: really? yoo hoo [16:14] noodles775: when is this feature coming? [16:15] shadeslayer_: afaik, bigjools is planning for it to be available on edge in the next few days. [16:15] w00t!!! === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === asac_ is now known as asac [16:39] the voucher system for the commercial subscriptions seems to be down [16:39] Anyone else experiencing this issue? === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === jsk is now known as jsk-afk === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [18:50] hey guys, I'm getting an internal server error on login.launchpad.net after being redirected there from staging.landscape.canonical.com [18:50] it's a plain apache internal server error page [18:50] no launchpad style on it [18:55] losa: ping [19:06] others were affected by LP logging in but it is up now [19:06] * gnomefreak hasnt had an issue [19:37] Sorry for the cross posting but, I am trying to use launchpad to compile only a specific flavour kernel. I have edited i386.mk to only contain the flavour I want. How do I prepare this for launchpadd ppa to use? Are there any other files I need to edit ? Any help would be appreciated. [19:38] losa ping? [19:46] barry: hi there [19:46] ahasenack: hi [19:46] Chex: hi [19:47] Chex: i have a project rename request. could you help me with that? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/108292 [19:50] barry: yes sure, looking at it now [19:51] Chex: thanks [20:05] barry: all set [20:19] Is the 'component' argument of the 'searchTasks' GET method of the 'distribution' object in the Launchpad API the source package of the bug? I couldn't find anything else that seemed to allow you to search for tasks reported against a certain source package. [20:23] launchpad has been "updating branch" for 10 minutes after I pushed 219 to lp:pantheon - did i break it? [20:23] Is 'losa' the pingword for the LP guy on duty in this channel? Never knew. [20:24] qense: DistributionSourcePackage.searchTasks(blah) [20:24] Chex: you rock. thanks [20:24] maxb: But what if you want to provide other arguments as well? [20:24] qense: ? [20:24] Just provide the source package as the first without keyword? [20:25] huh? No, you call searchTasks on the source package object of interest [20:25] maxb: refine the search [20:25] maxb: But what if you call it on the distribution? [20:25] Then you're searching the entire distribution, not just one package [20:26] You cannot provide an argument to the searchTasks method of a distribution object to only search a source package from there? [20:26] is launchpad hanging on "updating branch" for anyone else? [20:27] qense: No, because that functionality is provided via calling searchTasks on the distro_source_package object [20:27] maxb: OK, thanks for yourself. [20:27] your help [20:27] ... [20:29] seems Lp is timing out [20:29] using edge [20:30] I noticed it was slow already a few minutes ago, but now it's completely unworkable? [20:30] ok page reloaded fine but it would let me comment on a bug [20:30] times out using edge and production here [20:30] that time it worked but 1time out of 10 == bad odds [20:31] whew, 219 finally went through after 30 minutes [20:32] Maybe they just rebuilt OpenOffice, the kernel, Firefox and GNOME for Lucid. ;) [20:33] ok, seems to work again [20:34] and buildd load shouldn't affect the bugs DB :P [20:34] You never know how crazy it gets! [21:01] anyone around who could give me a hand with https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/108553 [21:01] please === azop_ is now known as azop === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [21:33] Hey LP Hackers. I'm using Launchpadlib to do a quick audit for the LoCo Council ( in which I am a part of ). I want to make sure that I don't flood the servers and get myself banned. I have it sleeping two seconds between requests -- is this enough? [21:38] paultag, are you just looking to run the script once? [21:38] paultag, what exactly is the script doing? [21:39] cody-somerville, I run it manually on the team, and it goes through each member and notes the join date [21:39] cody-somerville, It just finished a run on ubuntu-au without getting banned but that does not mean that mucj [21:39] cody-somerville, P.S. Somerville, MA? [21:39] paultag, you shouldn't need any sleeps between requests [21:40] paultag, No. My last name is Somerville. [21:40] cody-somerville, does it preload the whole team? [21:40] Ah, sorry then [21:40] paultag, I've been in Somerville, MA though [21:40] :) [21:40] cody-somerville, each team can be 300+ no problem [21:40] cody-somerville, I don't want to flood the LP servers [21:41] paultag, It shouldn't be a problem. If it is, someone will kindly let you know. [21:42] cody-somerville, should I put something in the browser string to let you guys know to poke me? [21:44] paultag, you can authenticate instead of using anonymous API [21:45] cody-somerville, OK. I will. Thanks for your time :) === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [22:21] hi guys - i have a quick question about BZR / Launchpad. I got a bzr branch, but when I try it branch it back it checks out a read only version. I am logged in. Why would this happen? === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [22:31] when do packages get published again? Every 5/15/30/60 minutes? [22:32] KIAaze: Every 5, normally. [22:32] ok, thanks [22:32] I always have difficulties finding that info [22:32] is there some good place to find it? [22:33] Have you checked the PPA docs on help.launchpad.net? [22:45] hi - any ideas why when i do a bzr branch it creates a read only copy? [22:46] comutamike: Which URL were you checking out? [22:48] wgrant: bzr branch lp:~computa-mike/+junk/whobuntu-icon-theme [22:49] comutamike: What does 'bzr lp-login' say? [22:50] wgrant: computa-mike.... that's my username on launchpad [22:51] wgrant: I was assuming that when you branch from launchpad that you'd be able to merge your changes back - but when it creates a read only branch that makes it more difficult. [22:52] comutamike: What does 'bzr info' say for the parent branch? [22:53] it gives me a checkout (fomat:2a) [22:53] It should say 'parent branch: ' [22:54] Or alternatively 'checkout of branch: ' if you used 'bzr checkout' rather than 'bzr branch'/. [22:54] checkout root : . [22:54] checkout og branch : bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~computa-mike/%2bjunk/whobuntu-icon-theme [22:54] i woner if this is an SSL issue [22:54] So, that should be writable. [22:54] What happens when you try to commit? [22:55] but when I use nautilus to view the directory there is a banner across the top saying read only, and I can't replace one of the files. [22:56] Er. Can you screenshot that? That sounds really odd. [22:58] wgrant: I did a commit, and interestingly it shows the file that I tried to change as being changed..... Just pasting that into pastebin now... [22:58] erm - I can't use pastebin for screen shots though can i? [22:59] what do you recommend? [23:01] comutamike: A quick search brings up imagebin.ca, if you have no other webhosting. [23:04] i gotit posted onto image shack... [23:06] http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8177/screenshotph.png [23:09] That's not one I've seen before. [23:09] Is that groundcontrol or something like that? [23:10] that's just nautilus - but I did install the Bazaar plugins ... [23:10] Ah, yes, it is Ground Control. [23:10] So it's probably a Ground Control bug. [23:11] is that what ground control is - naultilus plugins for bazaat [23:11] bazaar even [23:12] A Nautilus plugin that integrates with Launchpad and Bazaar, yes. [23:12] You'll be pleased to hear that I've managed to make my required changes - so I think I should be ok. I wonder if ground control (like you say) has a bug, and it really wasn't read only.. [23:12] it worked anyway. [23:13] So, I've checked the code, and what it really means by 'Read-Only Branch' is that it is a checkout. [23:13] doctormo: Is it meant to do that? [23:15] that seems wierd - and could lead to confusion [23:23] wgrant: I think i may uninstall ground control for the moment... [23:24] wgrant: but many thanks for your help - I've been trying to get one of the icons replaced for like 3 hours... [23:39] Good evening you lovely people! [23:40] jamestait: morning [23:40] How's tricks? All set for Thursday? [23:41] I have nothing to do with the lucid release, so yes, I'm fine [23:42] Not in mad panic mode, just able to enjoy the excitement like me? :) [23:42] well, I've been running lucid for a month, so not even that much excitement [23:43] Yeah, I was really late to the game this time around unfortunately. I only upgraded last week. [23:43] Anyway... [23:43] The first few months weren't as exciting as other releases stability-wise, so you didn't miss much! [23:44] I think I'm awake enough to try and understand how I broke my branches, if you're able to help. [23:46] I'm new to bzr, and DVCS in general, so I probably just did something stupid. [23:46] Ask away, and people will help if they can. [23:49] OK, I'm not 100% on the precise order of events, so please bear with me. [23:50]