=== ericm-afk is now known as ericm|ubuntu === JaMa|Zzz is now known as JaMa [07:17] saeed, ping [07:18] ericm|ubuntu: hi [08:13] ericm|ubuntu: please check the u-boot under https://marvell.wiki.canonical.com/UploadedFiles?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Dove_UBoot_4_4_2_Full_Release_NQ.zip === ericm_ is now known as ericm|ubuntu === hrw|gone is now known as hrw === JamieBen1ett is now known as JamieBennett [13:23] http://hrw.pastebin.com/GdyhNPbt - beagleboard c3 with hub on otg [13:23] Is that really a 7 minute boot? [13:24] [ 0.000000] Registering NAND on CS0 [13:24] [ 345.080596] OMAP DMA hardware revision 4.0 [13:24] nope [13:25] Where's the first 5 minutes of time come from? [13:26] waiting in uboot [13:26] probably [13:26] ouch! [13:26] Or did you have to do something manually in uboot (it's less painful if waiting on us slow humans) [13:27] I took card out, wrote lucid on it, pasted content of boot.scr+serial into uboot and booted [13:29] Ah, OK. Yeah, I can see how that takes 300 seconds :) [13:30] writing card was 242s === ogra_ is now known as ogra === jmcgee|gone is now known as jmcgee [15:12] persia our shepherd :) [15:13] * persia has accepted certain responsibilities as a side effect of being allowed in the #ubuntu-ops channel [15:13] anyway /me needs a break ... back soon [15:16] shepherd... for me it is sharp zaurus c750 ;D [15:25] Indeed. [15:26] but c7x0 are not ubuntu targets - armv5te [15:28] Omegamoon got Jaunty working, but yeah, these days I recommend installing Debian on those. [15:28] Well, maybe not on a 750 :) [15:36] 750 is enough as long as you have rootfs on sd [15:36] hi prpplague [15:38] hrw: hey bud [15:38] davidm: ping [15:39] prpplague, hello, I'm sort of here [15:39] traveling again [15:39] davidm: ahh np, i wanted to get some feedback from you when you have some time [15:40] if I can, also I have a question for you, the TinCan Tools Beagle board parts. Are the Ethernet parts stable? [15:40] davidm: give me a shout when you'd have about 20 minutes or so [15:41] davidm: stable in what way? software, hardware, availibility? [15:41] stable in terms of the 10/100 part working solidly and not causing kernel panics or losing connectivity? [15:42] Might have some folks buying some [15:42] davidm: i have not heard of any issues, the micrel folks have run a number of tests on the zippy2 and we've run iperf and burning tests [15:43] davidm: we've sold about 400 zippy2 boards and i've not had any negative feedback [15:43] prpplague, thanks, I'll pass that on [15:43] davidm: you can purchase the zippy2's via digikey as well [15:43] davidm: you were at the Nice meeting right? [15:43] prpplague, cool, thanks [15:43] Yes [15:43] I was indeed [15:44] what does the rtc with battery do? is it just supplying the battery to the tps, or is it a different device? [15:45] on the zipp2 [15:45] cwillu_at_work: seperate RTC device connected via i2c [15:46] ... why? [15:46] prpplague: Does it have a battery? [15:47] * persia reads again [15:47] I guess it's a replaceable battery as opposed to the one you have to solder onto the beagle [15:47] Hurray! It doesn't fail to boot with the current filesystems :) [15:47] persia: yes [15:47] but if you're soldering things on anyway [15:48] cwillu_at_work: ?? [15:48] prpplague, to put the expansion header onto the beagle [15:48] cwillu_at_work: ahh indeed [15:53] main difference between zippy and zippy2 is the 100mbit? [15:57] cwillu_at_work: yea [15:58] cwillu_at_work: the zippy uses the enc28j60 from microchip and the zippy2 uses a micrel part === JamieBen1ett is now known as JamieBennett [16:01] * cwillu_at_work considers possibilities [16:01] possibilities such as btrfs raid across two mmc cards :p [16:03] sata seems to be an item i am getting alot of requests for [16:04] cwillu_at_work: we also have the trainer board if you are into hacking hardware - http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer [16:23] sata would be nice, although I don't have much use for it myself [16:27] prpplague, is it sensitive to the length of the connection? I.e., could I run a two inch ribbon cable between beagle and zippy2? [16:27] cwillu_at_work: yea you could [16:28] cwillu_at_work: or even use some right angle connectors [16:28] hmm, I guess, ya [16:28] cwillu_at_work: no more than about 6 to 8 inches [16:30] prpplague: can zippy2 and trainer be stacked on one bb? [16:30] hrw: not currently [16:31] hrw: we are looking at doing a board so you can mount them side by side === asac_ is now known as asac [16:58] prpplague, too bad the connector is already soldered onto the zippy2 [16:59] prpplague, specifically, keeping the right-angle connectors on top would recover significant vertical clearance [17:38] cwillu_at_work: we have a small right angle pcb we use inhouse for some testing [17:38] cwillu_at_work: we had considered making it available on the web site [17:39] I don't follow [17:39] like _||__[]_ ? [17:41] cwillu_at_work: yea [17:41] okay, you missed my point :) [17:41] I want the connectors on the populated sides of both boards, so that I can have them sitting lower in their cases :) [17:43] cwillu_at_work: ahh [17:43] cwillu_at_work: i follow [17:44] cwillu_at_work: that could be done with a small board === hrw is now known as hrw|gone [17:46] hello, i've got a question: how to build rootfs of debian squeeze from scratch if I've got fedora 12 on my desktop now? [17:46] Vazz, debootstrap is meant to do that [17:46] rootstock is basically a wrapper around it to make things easier [17:47] rootstock wont work on fedora [17:47] it will with the right things in the right places [17:47] debootstrap will. [17:47] it has dependencies fedora wont fulfill [17:47] so only debootstrap method? [17:48] right, rather take the harder part and use debootstrap [17:48] yum install debootstrap? : D [17:48] its less work to bring up on fedora but more work setting up the system afterwards [17:52] hmm i think there's no script for squeeze in debootstrap [17:55] can i install squeeze with it? [17:57] orbarron: has nicolas been over by your desk already? [17:58] prpplague: not yet but should stop by later today... [17:58] orbarron: let me know if he stops over there [18:14] i've downloaded new version of debootstrap from webpage, it downloaded packages...then W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/arek/d_db mount -t proc proc /proc [18:15] any advices? [18:20] you'll have to --foreign --arch-armel [18:20] otherwise it'll try to use arm binaries to install the system on your very-much-not-an-arm system [18:21] then on first boot you'll do a debootstrap --second-stage [18:21] thx [18:23] so now i have to boot it on my arm devce and debootstrap --second-strage? [18:24] yes; probably/may need to boot it with an explicit init=/bin/bash [18:33] "debug rootdelay=2 init=/bin/bash root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 fbcon=rotate:1 mem=64M@0xa0000000 mem=64M@0xb0000000" [18:34] thats part of my startup.txt [18:34] and it's saying that 'unable to open initial console' then kernel panic [18:41] use "rootwait" instead of "rootdelay=2"; try dropping the fbcon bit, not sure why you'd need that [18:41] might need to specify "console=ttyS2,115200n8" or somesuch [18:42] fbcon rotates my screen : ) [18:42] what hardware is this on? [18:43] toshiba g900 [18:43] can't help you there then :p [18:44] but you'll probably have to muck with the console [18:44] : / [18:47] with rootwait same thing like before [18:47] yes, that's just a "doing the right thing" thing, not to fix your problem [18:47] rootdelay=2 is a hack, rootwait is the fix [18:50] hmm [18:51] and neither is related to your current problem :p [18:52] thats not good :D === XorA is now known as XorA|gone [21:01] In trying to run Ubuntu ARM NetInstall on a BeagleBoard, USB does not seem to be working. Neither OTG nor HOST. Without mouse or keyboard, it is a little tough to click the OK button. Is this a bug in the kernel? [21:02] * sveinse is wondering if Beagleboard has the TI feature in which it requires a HUB to do USB1.1... [21:02] Try connecting via a HUB and see if you get kbd+mouse then [21:03] I don't know id that's the case, but I'd give it a go [21:03] I am using a powered hub. [21:04] inhand1: Sorry then, I don't know. Best of luck [21:05] Uhm. Do you know if the HUB is 1.1 or 2.0? [21:05] it is 2.0 === nslu2-log_ is now known as nslu2-log === jmcgee is now known as jmcgee|gone