[02:56] <phil> hey
[02:57] <phil> can someone answer a flash question with my video card
[02:57] <phil> when i play a youtube video its really choppy
[02:58] <phil> i have the driver installed [recommended] in hardware drivers
[02:58] <phil> any one know why it would still be choppy??
[02:59] <phil> nobody?
[04:05] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anyone awake in here
[04:06] <malev> what do u need?
[04:07] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> well I have this assignment do and I have know idea on how to do it in linux
[04:08] <malev> what is it about?
[04:08] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> In Visio, create a new network drawing. Use it to show your computer (choose PC, Mac, laptop, etc. as appropriate). Then, add a data graphic showing information about your current configuration. Minimally, you should include Product Description giving a label for your computer, Operating System, IP Address, Subnet Mask, and MAC (Physical) Address. (Note: on Windows platforms, the network information may be accessed b
[04:08] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> y selecting status for the connection in the networks tab of the control panel or using “ipconfig /all” in the command prompt. Copy the drawing into your overall submission document (do not submit a separate Visio/VSD document)
[04:09] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> but I could not get visio to install so I am using Dia
[04:09] <malev> don't know what dia es
[04:09] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its like visio
[04:09] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> diagram
[04:10] <malev> oks. and your problem is?
[04:11] <malev> you need the information about your PC to be redirected to DIA?
[04:11] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I dont know how my layout should look or how to find my ip address ,MAC etc
[04:11] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah I think so
[04:11] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> then I have to take it from there and put it in my word doc
[04:12] <malev>   you can use pipes
[04:12] <malev> or the | character
[04:12] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I dont know
[04:12] <malev> to redirect the output of ifconfig to ... wherever you want
[04:12] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok how
[04:14] <malev> for example, with ifconfig you get your IP, MAC, etc
[04:14] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah
[04:15] <malev> then, to redirect the output, you can use: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/io-redirection.html
[04:15] <malev> and if you know something about python, you can make a script to get the info, and maybe export it to DIA
[04:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok
[04:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> thanks
[06:33] <lambrecht> mornin
[06:34] <ddecator> morning lambrecht
[06:37] <lambrecht> :)
[06:44] <Bodsda> morning
[07:16] <Akos> good morning team
[07:17] <pedro3005> morning
[07:19] <ddecator> morning Akos and pedro3005
[08:04] <kermiac> good evening/morning/whatever people :)
[08:06] <ddecator> kermiac: hey mate
[08:07] <kermiac> hey ddecator :) how's things mate?
[09:51] <switchgirl> how to ban all double click ip addresses from my network permanently? without bricking my connection
[09:59] <leoquant> sudo ufw deny from
[10:24] <shahan> damn....!!!
[10:24] <shahan> electricity gone...
[10:24] <shahan> after 1 hours...
[10:25] <shahan> bye
[13:27] <rraj_be> mohi1: hi da
[13:28] <mohi1> hey rraj_be
[13:28]  * rraj_be @ channel after 3 long months of gap
[13:28] <mohi1> meh
[13:28] <rraj_be> howdy mohi1
[13:30] <mohi1> rraj_be, just moving around
[13:30] <rraj_be> no one is tehre mohi1
[13:30] <mohi1> rraj_be, you quit from there??  its mine
[13:37] <Severity1> hi everyone :)
[13:38] <mohi1> hey Severity1
[13:38] <Severity1> heya mohi1
[13:38] <Severity1> \0
[13:38] <mohi1> Severity1, how was the day?
[13:39] <Severity1> nm nm yours?
[13:39] <mohi1> having exams in two days :(
[13:39] <mohi1> i dont even know where my book is :(
[13:40] <Severity1> mohi1, LOL it happens :P
[13:40] <mohi1> :'(
[13:40]  * mohi1 is searching for the exam time table(coz i dont know what is the first exam)
[13:44]  * rraj_be kicks mohi1...useless pellow...dont even knows abt his exam...
[13:45] <mohi1> :(
[13:45]  * rraj_be wishes mohi would give him vinos exam hall
[13:45] <mohi1> rraj_be, join #ubuntu-beginners-team
[14:19] <LzrdKing> how do i fix the S and K numbers in /etc/rc#.d/ when insserver rewrote them all sequentially? instead of S10xxx S40xxx, S80xxx, i have S01xxx, S02xxx, S03xxxx
[14:24] <duanedesign> hello LzrdKing
[14:24] <LzrdKing> hi duanedesign, can you help me?
[14:26] <duanedesign> the number is the order it runs at start up. As long as the order is the same I dont think the number matters.
[14:31] <Severity1> heya duanedesign :D
[14:31] <LzrdKing> i beleive you are correct, but what happens when i install a new package that believes one process starts with 30, another starts at 40 and needs to start in between them so uses 35, but in reality, the 30 and 40 were changed to 2 and 3?
[14:31] <duanedesign> hey there Severity1
[14:32] <Severity1> how are you duanedesign :D
[14:39] <duanedesign> LzrdKing: if it currently does not seem to be an issue I would just be aware of the situation and in the future if a service does not start you will now where to start debugging
[14:40] <duanedesign> if one service depends on another to be started first I would guess that they would be installed/configured together at install
[14:40] <LzrdKing> so you're saying i'll need to manually correct the links if it comes down to that?
[14:49] <duanedesign> chkconfig is a nice tool for managing runlevel links
[14:52] <LzrdKing> no chkconfig in ubuntu though
[14:52] <LzrdKing> i don't understand the startup scripts in karmic; i knew them in jaunty; they were pretty standard, but now.... they are all garbled
[14:53] <duanedesign> LzrdKing: yeah you need to install it
[14:54] <LzrdKing> how can i just reinstall the init stuff?
[14:54] <starcraftman> morning folks
[14:55] <Severity1> mornin
[14:55] <Severity1> 'o
[14:57] <duanedesign> LzrdKing: reading 'man update-rc.d' i foound:
[14:57] <duanedesign> A common system administration error is to  delete  the  links  with  the thought  that  this will "disable" the service, i.e., that this will prevent the service from being started.  However, if  all  links  have  been deleted  then  the  next  time  the  package  is  upgraded, the package's postinst script will run update-rc.d again and this will reinstall  links at  their factory default locations.
[14:58] <LzrdKing> so i should reinstall those packages that have links in /etc/init
[14:58] <LzrdKing> and/or /etc/init.d
[15:00] <starcraftman> damn, its snowing outside! Grrr, its april!
[15:01] <duanedesign> LzrdKing: look at this thread and see if it helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620096
[15:01] <duanedesign> hmm, nevermind
[15:01] <duanedesign> that is not as helpfull as i thought
[15:02] <LzrdKing> basically it says to rinstall :)
[15:02] <LzrdKing> reinstall*
[15:08] <duanedesign> LzrdKing: here is an interesting bug report on the topic. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=339460
[15:08] <duanedesign> Message 15 looks promising
[15:09] <Severity1> if i remove gdm and i have gnome will it go to gnome automatically or will prompt for login thru shell?
[15:10] <LzrdKing> duanedesign: looks good, thanks!
[15:10] <duanedesign> LzrdKing: if you end up trying any of that I would be interested to  know how it goes. Best of luck
[15:16] <duanedesign> Severity1: i think it would boot to a prompt and you would need to issue 'start x'
[15:17] <Severity1> duanedesign, is there a way to auto login without gdm?
[15:17] <LzrdKing> you'd need to log in
[15:17] <LzrdKing> yes there is
[15:17] <LzrdKing> but its mroe complicated
[15:17] <Severity1> and run a custom desktop entry instead of gnome.desktop
[15:18] <Severity1> LzrdKing, i hope i kind resources for that :P
[15:19] <LzrdKing> http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/autologin-karmic.html
[15:20] <LzrdKing> its really easy
[15:21] <Severity1> ohhhh thnx LzrdKing :D
[15:21] <LzrdKing> then you can configure your shell to start X
[15:21] <LzrdKing> in like .profile or something
[15:22] <Severity1> cool cool!
[15:23] <Severity1> yeah! i guess i hafta move my boxee.desktop script to .profile
[15:25] <LzrdKing> you want to run boxee?
[15:25] <Severity1> im running it now
[15:26] <LzrdKing> i'd ditch gnome altogether and just use openbox; that's what i'm doing
[15:26] <Severity1> right now i hafta login to gdm then choose boxee desktop instead of gnome thru gdm
[15:26] <Severity1> hmmmm i hafta try that
[15:26] <LzrdKing> karmic or lucid?
[15:26] <Severity1> karmic
[15:26] <LzrdKing> i wonder how it runs under lucid
[15:26] <Severity1> but ill redo everything once lucid comes out
[15:26] <Severity1> yeah
[15:27] <Severity1> i really would want to run it under lucid
[15:27] <LzrdKing> you know there is a #boxee channel on freenode
[15:27] <Severity1> really?
[15:27] <Severity1> cool
[15:27] <Severity1> i'll check it out someday xD
[15:27] <LzrdKing> its usually pretty quiet
[15:27] <Severity1> awwwww
[15:28] <Severity1> have you tried loging in to a boxee session? instead of logging in to a openbx or gnome session?
[15:29] <LzrdKing> no, i like to be able to open an xterm occasionally
[15:30] <Severity1> i see
[15:30] <LzrdKing> but it would just be a matter of removeiong the openbox line from ~/.xinitrc
[15:30] <LzrdKing> or commenting it out
[15:31] <Severity1> i setup a custom boxee script so that i can pick Boxee desktop as default on gdm
[15:31] <Severity1> the problem is audio
[15:31] <Severity1> sometimes it will not kick in
[15:31] <Severity1> but i made a work around
[15:32] <LzrdKing> pulseaudio?
[15:32] <Severity1> yup
[15:32] <LzrdKing> no pulse here
[15:32] <Severity1> alsa?
[15:32] <LzrdKing> see, the computer i'm using is really only for boxee, i do nothing else with it
[15:32] <LzrdKing> yup
[15:32] <Severity1> well on mine i use pulse
[15:33] <LzrdKing> it gave me a damn hard time too, since i needed to add my user to the audio group
[15:33] <Severity1> right now problems with audio is solved
[15:33] <LzrdKing> until i did that, audio apps only worked as non-root when X didn;t run; the moment i started X, audio cut out entirely
[15:33] <LzrdKing> unless i ran something as root
[15:34] <Severity1> awwww
[15:34] <Severity1> i never had that problem
[15:35] <Severity1> pulse-session /opt/boxee/Boxee --standalone "$@"
[15:35] <Severity1> i made a custom script with that
[15:35] <Severity1> and now pulse runs before running boxee
[15:36] <Severity1> actually i copied this script from xbmc
[15:36] <Severity1> xD
[15:36] <LzrdKing> i just use the autologin, then my .profile starts X with startx, then .xinitrc starts boxee and openbox, and i'm done
[15:37] <LzrdKing> but my startup is a little screwy because i configure my wireless network like 3 times
[15:38] <Severity1> never had problems with wireless
[15:38] <Severity1> im planning on buying a zotec box
[15:38] <LzrdKing> yes, but do you mount nfs shares?
[15:39] <LzrdKing> zotec looks awesome
[15:39] <Severity1> yup!
[15:40] <LzrdKing> i need my nfs shares mounted before boxee starts, and preferably before anything calls mountall
[15:40] <LzrdKing> as it is, i get errors because mountall is called before wireless is up and the nfs shares can't be mounted
[15:40] <LzrdKing> and i hate that
[15:41] <Severity1> lol that is a problem
[15:41] <Severity1> add nfs shares to fstab?
[15:41] <LzrdKing> i did, thats why mountall gives errors
[15:42] <LzrdKing> maybe i should take them OUT and mount them manually later
[15:42] <Severity1> wait
[15:43] <Severity1> its good as is i think
[15:44] <Severity1> you can pass swithces to your fstab nfs entries
[15:44] <Severity1> like when it throws errors you can make it egnore the errors and have it retry after nth time atleast until wireless kicksin
[15:48] <Severity1> http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=70922.0;wap2
[15:48] <Severity1> or try an automounter
[15:51] <LzrdKing> it does keep trying and eventually mounts them
[15:51] <malev> hey! is there a channel where I can ask about laptops and drivers or thing like that?
[15:52] <Severity1> LzrdKing, does it throw errors?
[15:53] <starcraftman> malev: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList < There is a labtop dev channel on there.
[15:53] <LzrdKing> Severity1: yes, it says the operation failed
[15:54] <Severity1> you can pass an option on fstab to your nfs entry that makes it not throw errors and just retries
[15:54] <malev> thanks!! starcraftman
[15:55] <starcraftman> malev: np :)
[15:55] <LzrdKing> Severity1: it looks like using the option "bg" may help a lot
[15:55] <Severity1> yup
[15:55] <Severity1> thats what i think too
[16:27] <nomnex> how to I accept a file transfer on Empathy??
[16:28] <nomnex> is the download automatic? I only see Clear | Open | Stop buttons
[16:29] <nomnex> and the files sent form i-chat on the other end (gtalk) do not download on my side
[16:39] <nomnex> anybody using empathy???
[17:23] <javatexan> how can you be sure that a computer will run ubuntu?  purchasing says they want it to be from dell or hp, but man what a pain to find stuff there.
[17:24] <javatexan> i would like to do something smaller form factor with 2 nics and good proc/ram
[17:26] <znxtch> is anyone familiar with rkhunter?
[17:26] <znxtch> Or is there a room that focuses specifically on security.
[17:29] <znxtch> Also got a question about virtual desktops using Lucid
[17:29] <zeroseven0183> Hi! There is no channel dedicate for security https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[17:30] <zeroseven0183> But you can ask it in #ubuntu
[17:30] <znxtch> Does it use any more memory to run have virtual desktops "running".  For example if using the compiz advanced display settings I reduce the number os virtual desktops to 1 instead of 4 would I get better system performance in a perfect world>
[17:30] <zeroseven0183> the Ubuntu help channel
[17:31] <zeroseven0183> The VM will only get the memory you alloted
[17:31]  * znxtch is confused.
[17:32] <shahan> hello everybody
[17:32] <shahan> I am back
[17:32] <zeroseven0183> Good evening, shahan
[17:32] <shahan> zeroseven0183: its night here :)
[17:33] <zeroseven0183> shahan, could you help us figure out the answer znxtch's questions
[17:33] <shahan> zeroseven0183: whats the problem?
[17:33] <zeroseven0183> :: znxtch: Does it use any more memory to run have virtual desktops "running".  For example if using the compiz advanced display settings I reduce the number os virtual desktops to 1 instead of 4 would I get better system performance in a perfect world>
[17:34] <shahan> zeroseven0183: whats the problem?
[17:35] <zeroseven0183> That's znxtch's question above
[17:35]  * znxtch nods
[17:35] <shahan> zeroseven0183: hmm
[17:35] <shahan> zeroseven0183: I have a little Idea about VM
[17:35] <shahan> zeroseven0183: I dont use it
[17:36] <shahan> zeroseven0183: :(\
[17:36] <zeroseven0183> As far as I know, the virtual machine uses only the memor that is alloted for it
[17:36] <zeroseven0183> for example, I have a 4GB memory in all
[17:36] <javatexan> how is the best way to buy computers that you want to run ubuntu on?
[17:36] <zeroseven0183> I allot 2GB to VM-Ubuntu
[17:36] <znxtch> Not virtual machine
[17:36] <zeroseven0183> VM-Ubuntu can only use 2GB max
[17:37] <znxtch> I'm talking about the "virtual desktops"
[17:37] <znxtch> i dont know if thats the appropriate term
[17:37] <zeroseven0183> Ahhhhmmm Oooppsss sorry
[17:37] <shahan> javatexan: you wanna buy a PC?
[17:37] <znxtch> you know you can switch between 4 desktops in the default ubuntu install
[17:37] <zeroseven0183> I see
[17:37] <zeroseven0183> workspaces
[17:37] <javatexan> shahan: yes, but I am trying to find one that can definitely run ubuntu....
[17:37] <zeroseven0183> as in the cuve
[17:37] <zeroseven0183> as in the cube
[17:37] <zeroseven0183> ?
[17:37] <shahan> javatexan: hmm
[17:38] <javatexan> but new of course
[17:38] <javatexan> ;)
[17:38] <shahan> javatexan: what u will do  in ur pc?
[17:38] <znxtch> im not using the cube
[17:38] <znxtch> just by default you can switch between 4 "virtual desktops"
[17:38] <znxtch> there is an option to reduce that to 1
[17:38] <zeroseven0183> yes
[17:38] <znxtch> i wondered if that would improve my system performance or not
[17:39] <zeroseven0183> Desktop size > Horizontal virtual size
[17:39] <javatexan> shahan: lots of stuff, but mainly show off ubuntu as both main os and appliances
[17:39] <shahan> hmm
[17:39] <znxtch> that is zeroseven
[17:39] <znxtch> I mean
[17:39] <znxtch> thats it!
[17:39] <shahan> javatexan: you wanna buy a brand pc?
[17:39] <javatexan> by appliances, I mean mythbuntu, firewall, server, etc
[17:39] <znxtch> that is the option I'm referring to
[17:40] <javatexan> well purchasing likes dell and HP
[17:40] <shahan> javatexan: or purchase the parts then join them?
[17:40] <znxtch> cd ..
[17:40] <znxtch> sry wrong window
[17:40] <znxtch> lol
[17:40] <javatexan> shahan:
[17:41] <zeroseven0183> My wild guess is that you're using more memory since you're using an additional feature
[17:41] <shahan> javatexan: yes
[17:41] <javatexan> shahan: not sure, I can do that; but I think the IT guys would rather a brand for service reasons
[17:41] <shahan> javatexan: hmm
[17:41] <zeroseven0183> znxtch: But not much
[17:41] <shahan> javatexan: where r u from?
[17:41] <javatexan> shahan: I know....
[17:41] <javatexan> shahan: texas
[17:41] <shahan> javatexan: javatexan Canada?
[17:42] <javatexan> shahan: nope, texas US
[17:42] <shahan> javatexan: hmm
[17:42] <shahan> javatexan: you can buy Brand PC
[17:43] <javatexan> shahan: which, I thought only certain hardware would work, they really only say either windows7 or FreeDos compat
[17:46] <shahan> javatexan: you can buy any sorts of PC which contains intel processor
[17:46] <shahan> javatexan: intel chipset motherboard
[17:46] <shahan> javatexan: hope will work...
[17:46] <javatexan> okay...is it still true that nvidia is better than ati for compat?
[17:47] <shahan> javatexan: what is "compat"?
[17:47] <javatexan> compatible
[17:48] <shahan> javatexan: yes... ubuntu is giving good support for nvidia
[17:48] <javatexan> k..thanks
[18:17] <shahan> Is there anyone who have idea about using KDE conver from GNOME?
[18:39] <abner_> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9182204#post9182204
[18:46] <starcraftman> hi abner_, need a lil help huh?
[18:47] <abner_> yes
[18:48] <starcraftman> abner_: I'm not sure I get the problem, overall the PC is sluggish your saying? Or only using particular verison of Ubuntu?
[18:48] <abner_> cant upgrade past 8.04
[18:48] <abner_> get a ton of errors on any kernel past Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-27-generic
[18:49] <starcraftman> hmmm, interesting.
[18:49] <abner_> debian 5.0 also kernel panics on boot
[18:51] <starcraftman> abner_: I see, well I'm pretty sure there isn't a problem hardware wise. P4s work. I used to run my alternate on a similar specced machine past 8.04 (till it died).
[18:52] <abner_> so whats the problem ?
[18:54] <starcraftman> abner_: not sure, doing lil research. This is kinda question I'd pull the paultag card out.
[18:59] <abner_> paultag ?
[18:59] <starcraftman> abner_: hmmm, I'm not sure tbh, if I was at the computer I'd fiddle with a few things but I'd want to be more sure what to tell you before isntructing you to fiddle with bios and settings. If you wait around a bit sure paul be around to assist.
[19:00] <abner_> ok
[19:01] <abner_> i found 3 people with the same machine having problems like mine
[19:11] <Raidsong> abner_, what kind of computer do you have?
[19:17] <abner_> hp dx mt 2000
[19:20] <abner_> thanks
[19:21] <Raidsong> what are ther specs on it? i cant seem to find any
[19:24] <starcraftman> where did pastebin.ca go?
[19:24] <abner_> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?prodNameId=401821&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=135&prodClassId=-1&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=401819
[19:25] <abner_> does that help
[19:25] <starcraftman> abner_: not really, mind opening up a terminal on the machine in question.
[19:26] <abner_> done
[19:26] <starcraftman> sudo lshw > test.txt
[19:26] <starcraftman> that provides a hardware dump on a file, upload it to a site like pastebin and then link here.
[19:27] <starcraftman> I assume Raidsong can take it from there. I'm sad my ol' pastebin.ca is no more it seems.
[19:28] <Raidsong> starcraftman, what happened to it?
[19:28] <starcraftman> Raidsong: all I get is a white page. I aren't sure.
[19:28] <starcraftman> my pastebin.ca widget also broken.
[19:28] <starcraftman> guess no money in pastebin
[19:28] <starcraftman> ><
[19:29] <Raidsong> abner_, www.pastebin.com
[19:29] <starcraftman> Raidsong: hmmm, am getting a response from their servers though. Maybe site overhaul?
[19:30] <Raidsong> starcraftman, i could see that happening
[19:32] <abner_> http://pastebin.com/SadXLpmj
[19:34] <Raidsong> and what exactly happens?
[19:34] <Raidsong> when you try to install
[19:35] <abner_> 8.04 install upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 does not
[19:36] <Raidsong> what error does it give?
[19:36] <abner_> kernel panic
[19:36] <abner_> segmentation fault
[19:37] <abner_> 9 will not boot from cd
[19:37] <abner_> 10 just fails
[19:37] <abner_> debian 5.0 same problem
[19:38] <Raidsong> sounds like something wrong with your hardware
[19:39] <abner_> but everything works under 8.04
[19:41] <abner_> ran microscope hd program everything teted passed
[19:43] <Raidsong> and youre upgrading from update manager?
[19:48] <abner_> yes
[19:48] <abner_> and tried cd
[20:10] <abner_> thanks
[20:28] <znxtch> Does anyone know what IANA blackhole servers are for?
[20:28] <LzrdKing> brobably to prevent spam
[20:28] <LzrdKing> probably
[20:29] <anwer> how to install windows live messenger on ubuntu 9.10?
[20:30] <znxtch> okay i see alot of hits from blackhole's on my firewall
[20:30] <znxtch> i found a bit of info on google
[20:30] <znxtch> but not much
[20:30] <LzrdKing> how can i use upstart to bring up my wireless as soon as wlan0 is visible to the kernel?
[20:31] <znxtch> disregard
[20:31] <znxtch> there is loads of info
[20:31]  * znxtch is retarded
[20:32] <LzrdKing> its ok, we all are
[20:34] <anwer> can anyone answer my query please?
[20:35] <anwer> about installing wlm on ubuntu 9.10 system
[20:36] <Akos> hi team
[20:36] <Akos> if i get kernel panic, which log messages should i check?
[20:36] <Akos> or where should i ask? :P
[20:39] <anwer> can anyone answer my query please?
[20:39] <anwer> about installing wlm on ubuntu 9.10 system
[20:40] <malev> what is wlm?
[20:40] <anwer> windows live messenger
[20:43] <malev> anwer, ... y como lo queres instalar? con wine?
[20:43] <Akos> anwer: what do you wish to do with windows live messenger on ubuntu? There is no native client, and I believe it won't work with wine properly
[20:43] <malev> por q no usas pidgin, ams o empathy o alguno de esos
[20:45] <anwer> i have contacts i wish to keep contacting  with them. Akos
[20:46] <Akos> anwer: for that you have empathy, emesene, amsn, so many clients
[20:47] <anwer> how can i contact with my friends on my wlm account?
[20:55] <ibuclaw> does anyone here use UNE 10.04?
[21:06] <znxtch> une?
[21:09] <PD187> Ubuntu Netbook, maybe?
[21:36] <ibuclaw> aye
[21:36] <ibuclaw> Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[21:36]  * ibuclaw meant UNR 10.04, sorry :)
[21:37] <ibuclaw> 'r' and 'e' are next to each other on this keyboard
[21:37] <PD187> there's your answer, znxtch...
[21:38] <ibuclaw> yes, but where is my answer? :P
[21:38] <PD187> I don't use it as I despise netbooks :P
[21:38] <ibuclaw> PD187, you are not enlightened in this world then
[21:39] <PD187> I'm sure they have their uses.  I just don't "get it".
[21:39] <ibuclaw> I can get 4 watts power usage when idle on this machine =)
[21:39] <PD187> and I'm plenty enlightened on other topics.
[21:40] <PD187> all that being said, I do like the VIA nanos and the plugPC that Marvell has
[21:40] <PD187> that's about the extent of my small computer liking.
[21:40] <ibuclaw> PD187, besides what don't you like about Netbooks ?
[21:41] <ibuclaw> Speed or Form Factor?
[21:41] <PD187> I don't really know.  I've never used one actually.
[21:41] <ibuclaw> O:
[21:41] <PD187> I would imagine it's just everyone seemingly saying they're a second coming of some kind.
[21:41] <ibuclaw> that makes you a prejudice
[21:42] <ibuclaw> PD187, not really a second coming...
[21:42] <PD187> perhaps I just don't like hyped up products of any kind then?
[21:42] <PD187> I'm a strange person I guess.
[21:42] <ibuclaw> however, with one I can put everything I need to live inside 1 bag and happily travel with it over my shoulder
[21:43] <PD187> I also don't need to fly anymore so I guess that changes things a bit
[21:43] <PD187> I mean this PC (a shuttle) has flown a few places with me.
[21:43] <ibuclaw> ;)
[21:44] <PD187> Okinawa to the states (and back), Okinawa to the states (for good) and I think I flew with it to Texas one time
[21:44] <ibuclaw> Well anyone who has used UNR 10.04, checkout the available Login Sessions
[21:44] <PD187> I once flew with a box of hard drives :D
[21:45] <ibuclaw> There's a n'Ubuntu Netbook Remix', and an 'UNE 2D' session
[21:45] <ibuclaw> the interesting one I'd like to point at is UNE 2D
[21:46] <ibuclaw> which is same look as UNE (albeit a little bit stripped down), but feels like it is aimed at devices with touchscreens (ie: smartphones)
[21:47] <ibuclaw> a little bouncing effect when you scroll up too far, or down too far accompanies this notion.
[21:49] <starcraft> there we go, I knew it was coming. Good ol' dsl drop.
[21:52] <ibuclaw> starcraftman, ;)
[21:53] <starcraftman> ibuclaw: amused huh? You might be even more amused to know that today, Montreal is now once more covered in white fluff.
[21:54] <starcraftman> A flash snowstorm has decided to happen.
[21:54] <ibuclaw> This is the strangest thing I've ever seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9183179&postcount=5
[21:55]  * znxtch bets he has the most ridiculed ubuntu laptop in the room
[21:56] <LzrdKing> is it pink?
[21:56] <znxtch> its a macbook, not dal boot either, pure ubuntu
[21:56] <znxtch> *dal=dual
[21:56] <LzrdKing> hah hah!
[21:58] <ibuclaw> znxtch, what a waste of money...
[21:58] <ibuclaw> If your gonna go mac, might as well keep the OS
[21:58] <znxtch> well not really i enjoyed os x for 4 yars on it before i switched
[22:00] <znxtch> ibuclaw what are you using?
[22:01] <ibuclaw> Hardware?
[22:01] <ibuclaw> Samsung N110
[22:01] <znxtch> yeah
[22:01] <znxtch> ill probabaly be buying a new laptop soon, this one is ready to retire. probably going to buy something cheap and run ubuntu on it
[22:01] <znxtch> im cheap
[22:02] <ibuclaw> heh
[22:02] <ibuclaw> I think that is one of the top 10 reasons for everyone mind you.
[22:03] <LzrdKing> my wife wants a new mac
[22:03] <ibuclaw> "I'm a student, can't afford to pay for Software, let alone an Operating System to run on the Hardware" :)
[22:03] <LzrdKing> hers is really slow
[22:03] <LzrdKing> and she needs a new battery
[22:03] <ibuclaw> bah, nonsense
[22:03] <znxtch> you have to admit
[22:04] <znxtch> the macbook pros do look sexy
[22:04] <ibuclaw> new battery, I cna understand
[22:04] <znxtch> theyre ust so damn expensive
[22:04] <ibuclaw> but judging a system by its speed, and not its features is a but low IMO
[22:04] <ibuclaw> *bit low
[22:05] <znxtch> what version of ubuntu are you runnng on on that n110?
[22:05] <ibuclaw> Currently using UNR 10.04
[22:06] <ibuclaw> as soon have finished work on Zenix, may use that instead
[22:11] <znxtch> you guys probabaly have already seen this
[22:11] <znxtch> http://www.geek.com/articles/news/dell-laptop-with-ubuntu-leads-woman-to-drop-out-of-college-20090116/
[22:12] <ibuclaw> znxtch, without clicking on it, my guess is that it is old news
[22:12] <ibuclaw> last year?
[22:12] <ibuclaw> wait ... just seem the date on it xD
[22:14] <ibuclaw> znxtch, get with the times
[22:15] <znxtch> lol
[22:15] <ibuclaw> a year is only 6 months, that news is 2 years old.
[22:15] <znxtch> hey
[22:15] <znxtch> a story such as that
[22:15] <znxtch> is not time sensitive
[22:15] <ibuclaw> it caused a lot of noise at the time
[22:15] <ibuclaw> but it is old, and talk of it has long since died
[22:16] <znxtch> haa im new
[22:16] <znxtch> before using ubuntu
[22:16] <znxtch> that would have never crossed my browser
[22:16] <ibuclaw> Sony stopping the selling of Floppies and Adobe dropping Mac for Android is what is in.
[22:17] <znxtch> i feel old
[22:17]  * znxtch needs sleep
[22:17] <znxtch> ill see you guys
[22:17] <ibuclaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1462813
[23:46] <javatexan> hey guys, is there a safe way to delete everything in /tmp....I didn't realize so many 'goodies' would be left there....OR I have my home dir as a encrypted fs per the installation of 9.10, is there a way to safely encrypt the /tmp folder?
[23:49] <phillw> hi javatexan, there was a discussion on that subject --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456891
[23:52] <javatexan> phillw: thanks
[23:53] <phillw> javatexan: do bear in mind, that /tmp is deleted at each boot, so you may not need to encrypt it.
[23:53] <javatexan> phillw: oh....I didnt know that
[23:53] <javatexan> that may be fine then
[23:54] <phillw> javatexan: hence it being /tmp - don't go saving files there that you want to keep. it is just a 'scratch' area for your system.
[23:55] <javatexan> cool, i noticed it having lots of stuff when doing some zip work... ;)
[23:55] <phillw> that's where it keeps the temporary file while it builds it.