[00:12] <TViYH> ubuntu 9.10 sound doesn't work for me, it did in 9.04. no, it's not muted. any help?
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[03:59] <hggdh> er. Gnome-keyring-manager: where are my GPG keys?
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[04:14] <arand> For Bug #514498, should I simply invalidate it? Since even if I were able to reproduce it, I wouldn't want to...
[04:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 514498 in linux (Ubuntu) "whole filesystem lost to corruption (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514498
[04:15] <persia> No.
[04:15] <persia> Reproduction may be tricky (and may require a separate install), but it's not necessarily invalid.
[04:16] <persia> I'd recommend leaving it for JFo to determine what to do: it may be that someone with a scrap machine and a lot of time can replicate.
[04:16] <persia> It may be fixed, or not.
[04:20] <persia> It may even be expected behaviour for some classes of multiple hard-power-off.
[04:20] <arand> persia: My guess is that it was pulling the plug a couple of times (with a rather long interval (days)) that caused it. But like you said, preferably I would not do it on any machine in use, even if it's on a throwaway install...
[04:21] <persia> Well, you could shorten the interval by pushing the filesystem hard, but yeah, it's not the sort of thing most folk want to try to replicate.
[04:22] <persia> That said, just because we don't want to try to work on a given bug doesn't make it invalid: leave it for someone else.
[04:22] <arand> persia: So is it accurate to leave it as incomplete then? I still have a dd-copy of the filesystem, so if there is any further information that could be useful it might be extract-able...
[04:23] <persia> You have the crashed filesystem?
[04:23] <persia> If you have the real raw data, I'd recommend hunting down JFo and trying to see what, precisely, is useful to dig out of it.
[04:24] <persia> (because it was JFo who set to incomplete, and I'm not sure precisely which information is being asked in the comment: it's likely just getting hit from a widely aimed script)
[04:26] <arand> persia: Yes, it is an automatic message "This bug was reported a while ago..."
[04:27] <persia> Yeah.  I'm not sure that the data exists to allow the bug to be fixed, but given what one has to do to replicate it, I'd recommend getting some hints from the kernel folk on precisely what information they might find useful from you, or if they think any information could be useful at all.
[04:27] <persia> They're usually about in #ubuntu-kernel, and tend to be fairly friendly.
[04:29] <arand> persia: Ok, I'll see what they have to say, thanks for your help!
[04:31] <arand> Although, that's something for tomorrow, post-sleep.
[06:11] <ddecator> nautilus keeps crashing whenever i try to open /usr/bin, and the backtrace points to a segfault in /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 so would the bug be in libglib then? just want to try and make sure i look in the right one and report to the right package
[07:34] <Rune> Update-manager just popped up with some upgrades. One of them r-cran-boot is an upgrade from 1.2.42-1karmic0 to 1.2.42-1karmic0
[07:35] <Rune> Why would dpkg want to upgrade that package
[07:35] <Damascene> I want to create personal page on ubuntu wiki, were should I ask?
[07:36] <micahg> Rune: depends where it was installed from
[07:36] <Rune>      1.2.42-1karmic0 0
[07:36] <Rune>         500 http://ftp5.gwdg.de karmic/ Packages
[07:36] <Rune>  *** 1.2.42-1karmic0 0
[07:36] <Rune>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:39] <micahg> Rune: yeah, so you installed previously from a source that no longer exists
[07:39] <sroecker> can someone please have a look at bug 529696 ?
[07:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 529696 in brasero (Ubuntu) "brasero can't copy audio cd (useless error message) (affects: 18) (dups: 2) (heat: 102)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529696
[07:40] <sroecker> brasero doesn't seem to work at all out of the box
[07:42] <micahg> Rune: known bug 87114
[07:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 87114 in apt (Ubuntu) "APT shows same-version packages as upgradable when the packages are the same version but are different (e.g. one from debian, one from ubuntu) (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87114
[08:01] <kklimonda> hmm, any advanced evolution user online? :)
[08:02] <kklimonda> would it be possible in evolution to have only part of filters running on new mails (and the rest of filters applied manually by pressing ctrl+y) ?
[08:05] <baptistemm> kklimonda, does unticking them in the filter dialogbox can do that?
[08:06] <kklimonda> good question
[08:06] <kklimonda> baptistemm: no, it disables them completely
[08:15] <Damascene> any one know how to create personal page on ubuntu wiki to collect some info about bugs?
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[08:37] <Damascene> any one know how to create personal page on ubuntu wiki to collect some info about bugs?
[08:37] <kklimonda> Damascene: what do you mean by that?
[08:38] <Damascene> I want to create a personal page so I collect info on my discovered bugs and to report them when I have time
[08:38] <Damascene> and to collect idea about ubuntu and stuff
[08:39] <kklimonda> Damascene: just go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/YourPage/Subpage and click on "Create new empty page" or use a template
[08:40] <Damascene> can you give me some example
[08:40] <Damascene> your own page maybe
[08:40] <Damascene> wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene ?
[08:40] <kklimonda> I have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KrzysztofKlimonda
[08:41] <kklimonda> so it would be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KrzysztofKlimonda/Bugs
[08:41] <Damascene> ok thanks
[08:41] <kklimonda> I don't think there is a strict rule how to name your own page.
[08:42] <Damascene> I though personal page should be under subpage like /users/damasene
[08:42] <Damascene> or something
[08:42] <Damascene> thanks
[08:46] <BUGabundo_remote> Drop your fears and wave guud morning to the World! \m/
[09:22] <Damascene> may some one look at these bugs
[09:22] <Damascene> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/damascene
[10:16] <vish> seb128: hi.. can you close https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593434 ? it isnt a problem anymore , and bryce mentions on lp..
[10:16] <ubot4> Gnome bug 593434 in general "Nautilus doesn't show 'Eject' option reliably" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[10:16]  * vish couldnt find pedro , hence poking seb128 
[10:17] <seb128> ok
[10:17] <vish> thanks.
[10:17] <seb128> yw
[11:33] <Rune> bug 445370 has had a solution attached since 2009-10-13. Could someone please commit the fix or comment against using the fix.
[11:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 445370 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "nscd terminates with assertion in prune_cache (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445370
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[14:18] <hggdh> anyone here uses the keyring and has GPG keys? if so, can you please check if you see your personal GPG keys?
[14:18] <hggdh> i.e., run 'seahorse', and look there
[14:18] <persia> hggdh: WFM
[14:19] <hggdh> darn! All my GPG keys vanished from seahorse
[14:19] <hggdh> and are still listed under 'gpg -K'
[14:19] <persia> What does `gpg --list-secret-keys` show?
[14:19] <persia> heh, OK.  Odd.
[14:19] <persia> permissions maybe?
[14:19] <hggdh> hum
[14:20] <hggdh> no, they are correct (owner rw, no others)
[14:20] <hggdh> quite weird
[14:21] <davmor2> hggdh: I got mine listed still
[14:23] <hggdh> hell. I am in hell.
[14:23] <BUGabundo_remote> let me check
[14:23] <hggdh> OK. When nothing else works, power it off, count to 10, power it on again. BRB
[14:23] <BUGabundo_remote> I see mine
[14:23] <BUGabundo_remote> and others
[14:23] <BUGabundo_remote> bye
[14:23] <BUGabundo_remote> :)
[14:23] <hggdh> I only see my SSH key. BRB
[14:24] <hggdh> oooohh, my gnome-panel is also corrupted...
[14:26] <persia> How's your filesystem doing?
[14:37] <BUGabundo_remote> wb hggdh
[14:37] <hggdh> hey BUGabundo_remote
[14:38] <hggdh> still no GPG keys :-(
[14:39] <BUGabundo_remote> and a new user, or guest session
[14:39] <BUGabundo_remote> does it work?
[14:42] <hggdh> will try it
[14:58] <om26er> I join #ubuntu-reviewers and its empty
[15:00] <om26er> any ways there is a bug whith a patch. The patch atually belongs to the other bug report what should I do?
[15:01] <om26er> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/504771
[15:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 504771 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "[empathy] the font and the font size cannot be changed (affects: 6) (heat: 40)" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[15:03] <om26er> should I remove patch from this bug?
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[17:21] <micahg> hggdh: I started an idea for UDS: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-browser-apport/, I'll fill in more details next week, didn't know if you'd be interested
[17:32] <hggdh> micahg: looking at it now
[17:34] <hggdh> micahg: yes, I am interested :-)
[17:35] <micahg> hggdh: k, so I'll try to flush out the idea a little more next week
[17:40] <hggdh> micahg: and I am thinking on how this could be generalised to other complex applications
[17:40] <micahg> hggdh: I thought about that too
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[18:03] <atrus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/507881 is recurring for me, breaking boot. should it be reopened?
[18:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 507881 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Plymouth doesn't show messages sent before the splash screen is visible (affects: 38) (dups: 4)" [High,Fix released]
[18:19] <ia> hello. I know, that probably a lot of you very busy during lucid release, but however i would like to get some [any] feedback (it may be just one single comment right there [at lp] - "confirm"/"not confirm") at these couple bugs - #564137 and #565620 ; btw, as you can see, they affect not only me.
[18:21] <vish> Bug #564137 and Bug #565620
[18:21] <ubot4> vish: Bug 564137 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/564137 is private
[18:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 565620 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy shows "Error sending message 'message_text': too long message" warning reguallary when sending message in some jabber conference (affects: 3) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565620
[18:22] <vish> ia: i can confirm 564137 , but i dont use jabber though
[18:27] <vish> ia: for the empathy bug , you can confirm it yourself , just add a comment "Confirming bug due to comment from Sergey V. Udaltsov mentioning the same issue"
[18:29] <ia> vish: could you, please, mark #564137 , that "this bug affects you too" in such case? btw, pretty strange thing ( about #564137 ) - i see, that lp says, that "this report is public", but looks like ubot4 doesn't agree with that :-)
[18:30] <vish> ia: ubot4 is crazy sometimes ;p  btw , confirmed the compiz bug
[18:35] <ia> vish: ok, thanks. Now, what would you advice to paying attention from some developers for triaging and fixing these bugs?
[18:35] <vish> ia: bribe them?
[18:35] <vish> ;p
[18:37] <vish> ia: i'm skeptical about the compiz bug though.. not sure how soon it will be fixed.. the empathy bug probably needs to be sent upstream
[18:37] <om26er> ia, maybe send that empathy bug upstream?
[18:37] <vish> om26er: was just about to ping you ;)
[18:38] <om26er> hmm
[18:39] <om26er> ia, how can I reproduce that bug?
[18:40] <om26er> vish, that ubutnu-review channel dont seem to open
[18:40] <vish> om26er: you tried the wrong channel name :)  its  #ubuntu-reviews
[18:41] <om26er> aarg!
[18:41]  * om26er now forgot the question
[18:42] <ia> om26er: are you talking about empathy bug? Here, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/565620 , in "bug description" see section "how to reproduce this bug" - this 'works' for you?
[18:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 565620 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy shows "Error sending message 'message_text': too long message" warning reguallary when sending message in some jabber conference (affects: 3) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:43] <om26er> are there jabber rooms?
[18:43] <vish> ia: do mention why you confirmed the bug... usually a reporter shouldnt confirm their own bug
[18:43] <atrus> yes, usually referred to as "conferences" or "multi-user chats"
[18:43] <ia> vish: oh, ok.
[18:48] <om26er> ia, the question here is how do I join a conference. anyways I think there might already be an upstream bug for that (searching now)
[18:54] <ia> om26er: menubar in Empathy : Room -> Join... , then select Server: (for example, conference.jabber.org) and Room: (i don't know, maybe the problem that sometimes text message not in english, so i don't know, which the best way to test and triage this bug, and don't know which room suite for such testing)
[19:02] <om26er> ia, ok I will ask this at #empathy at freenode tomorrow
[19:02] <ia> om26er: ok, thanks.
[19:08] <jcastro> bdmurray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[19:08] <vish> om26er: haha , just noticed we are on a streak :D
[19:08] <jcastro> bdmurray: I've volunteered someone from the bug team (currently you), would this time work for you?
[19:08] <om26er> vish, bring it on ;)
[19:10] <om26er> vish, I never knew its been 16weeks
[19:10] <om26er> seems like I just started triaging
[19:11] <Stephen37> Hi everyone, I would like to know if only I have the issue with audio playback in Rhytmbox, in every song every 3-4 seconds there is a 1 millisecond stop, usually when the processor is at 100%.
[19:11] <Damascene> I keep getting I can't report a problem with the kernel because it's a not a genuine ubuntu package
[19:11] <Stephen37> in Ubuntu 10.04
[19:11] <Damascene> this is the second time I'm asking about this here
[19:11] <Damascene> Linux tester01-laptop 2.6.32-21-generic-pae #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 09:39:35 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:12] <vish> Damascene: you are using a ppa?
[19:12] <om26er> Damascene, I think because thats not a genuine package
[19:12] <om26er> Damascene, why are you using pae kernel?
[19:12] <Damascene> I didn't use anything
[19:12] <yofel> -pae is official
[19:12] <Damascene> I've not played with the kernel
[19:13] <Damascene> I'm using netbook and I'm afraid it will be one more bug for Asus Eee
[19:13] <vish> Stephen37: i notice it too..  do you use the system for long hrs?
[19:13] <vish> Damascene: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:14] <Stephen37> I've just booted 30 minutes ago to test the release candidate.
[19:14] <Stephen37> And I've got this really huge problem.
[19:14] <Stephen37> I am running it live from a usb stick.
[19:14] <om26er> it can be bug 527026
[19:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 527026 in apport (Ubuntu) "Apport is unable to report a bug on a kernel that you are not booted into (affects: 2) (dups: 2) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527026
[19:15] <yofel> Damascene: can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic-pae ?
[19:15] <Damascene> http://paste.ubuntu.com/423513/
[19:15] <vish> Stephen37: ah.. check in sysmonitor which process is using high cpu?
[19:17] <Stephen37> vish rhytmbox is strangely sleeping even if it plays music with pulseaudio too, they use only 20 % of cpu in total
[19:17] <Damascene> http://paste.ubuntu.com/423514/
[19:17] <Damascene> yofel,
[19:17] <Stephen37> nothing else uses it more than 10%
[19:18] <vish> Stephen37: you mentioned "processor is at 100%" , try to watch causes the spike
[19:18] <vish> watch what*
[19:18] <yofel> Damascene: that seems ok, something is wrong in apport after all then
[19:19] <Stephen37> vish: There is only one problem, at the Resources I see 100% after every click I do, in Processes I can add up to only 30% of processor usage in total.
[19:19] <yofel> om26er: and that is expected behaviour, the kernel hook needs the logs, and for that you need to be running the kernel
[19:20] <vish> Stephen37: not sure .. better to file a bug in RB
[19:21] <An_Ony_Moose> When shutting down from login, it asks me for a password claiming that another user is already logged in; This is not the case. Additionally, it does *not* ask for a password when shutting down from the login screen. Which package should I report a bug for?
[19:22] <Stephen37> vish: I think the problem is in the kernel with pulseaudio, not only rhytmbox has this problem, anything that uses pulseaudio has it, for example audacious and exaile.
[19:22] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: any you are not logged in via console?
[19:22] <hggdh> s/any/and/
[19:23] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, no, gdm session
[19:23] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: what does 'who' give you?
[19:23] <vish> Stephen37: might be.. I'v been trying to downgrade kernels since yesterday to try and catch when this was working correctly.. but no luck .. this was working fine a month ago in Lucid
[19:24] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, my name... twice
[19:24] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: what are the terminals shown?
[19:24] <An_Ony_Moose> one on tty8 and once on pts/0
[19:24] <hggdh> specially the ttys
[19:24] <Stephen37> vish I've had the same problem when I installed 9.10, but after some time the problem dissapeared and reapeared, but now I want to file a bug.
[19:25] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: indeed weird
[19:25] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: what UBuntu version?
[19:25] <vish> Stephen37: when you file the bug , could you mention the bug# ?
[19:26] <An_Ony_Moose> 10.04 RC, standard (but with some kubuntu and all ubuntu-studio packages installed)
[19:26] <An_Ony_Moose> One weirdness about my system is that I configured www-data (apache daemon user) as a standard user.
[19:26] <Stephen37> vish The only one problem is that there are a lot of reasons why this happens, OSS or ALSA makes the playback smoother but there is a decrease in quality, ok, I'll tell you the bug number.
[19:28] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: this *might* have an impact, IDN
[19:28] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, however I also stopped apache and it still happened
[19:28] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: try to reboot, when you get the window asking for a passphrase, jump to tty1, log in, and find the programme name
[19:29] <Damascene> so it's a problem with apport and we are not going to do anything?
[19:29] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, one problem: using the terminal interface of TTYs doesn't work either >.>
[19:29] <hggdh> then we can easily find the package (via apt-find)
[19:30] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: oh, you mean you cannot access the ttys?
[19:30] <vish> Damascene: what can we do ? ;)
[19:30] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, when switching to a terminal TTY, it looks to me like it sends data at a different resolution without telling the monitor to change it
[19:30] <Damascene> I don'
[19:30] <Damascene> vish, I don't know. tell me what to do?
[19:30] <hggdh> sounds like kernel modesetting is bad
[19:30] <vish> Damascene: better file a bug, saying "you cant file a bug" .. :D
[19:30] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: can you switch to another window?
[19:31] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, what do you mean?
[19:31] <vish> Damascene:  in apport
[19:31] <Damascene> vish, so no one reported this before?
[19:31] <An_Ony_Moose> by switching to another window
[19:31] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: opening a terminal session (gnome-terminal, or whatever you like)
[19:32] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, yes.
[19:32] <vish> Damascene: well , someone has to check lp and usually the person affected checks for an existing bug.. ;)
[19:32] <yofel> Damascene: I'm just running -21-generic here and I can report a bug with ubuntu-bug linux just fine
[19:32]  * vish too
[19:32] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: then try to reboot; when you see the request to enter a passphrase, jump to gnome-terminal, and find out the name of the programme
[19:32] <Damascene> yofel, I don't do it manually
[19:32] <Damascene> I should try that though
[19:33] <An_Ony_Moose> the request appears only once the rest of the session is already closed, hggdh
[19:33] <yofel> Damascene: how or what did you try to report then?
[19:33] <An_Ony_Moose> but I've changed grub's config so it sets the display mode to 1280x1024... I'
[19:33] <An_Ony_Moose> m assuming that it will also have an effect on the tty terminal resolution, so I'll test that
[19:33]  * An_Ony_Moose reboots
[19:34] <Damascene> yofel, it comes after starting the machine saying something wrong happened to the kernel
[19:34] <Damascene> it was just about 10 days ago
[19:34] <yofel> Damascene: can you pastebin 'ls -l /var/crash' ?
[19:35] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: darn!
[19:35] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, DARN! Even worse: grub will no longer load because I edited some partitions
[19:35] <An_Ony_Moose> I ran update-grub afterwards, but no, it still expected a bootable filesystem :(
[19:35] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: oh, this is worse. You did not run 'sudo update-grub'?
[19:35]  * An_Ony_Moose boots live CD
[19:35] <An_Ony_Moose> yes I did
[19:36] <Damascene> yofel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/423519/
[19:36] <hggdh> eeeeck!
[19:36] <An_Ony_Moose> can I fix it by chrooting in the live CD then retrying update-grub?
[19:36] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: yes, you should be able to
[19:36] <Damascene> first time I came here I've been told it's because the kernel is old and I'm not updated
[19:37] <yofel> Damascene: well, those are -20 oops reports, you need to run -20 to report them
[19:37] <An_Ony_Moose> okay. do symlinks work for creating the block device links in a chroot, hggdh ?
[19:37] <yofel> Damascene: this could be handled more gracefully though :/
[19:37] <yofel> Damascene: if they didn't happen with -21 so far just delete them
[19:38] <Damascene> so I should report problem with apport not handling old reports in a good way yofel ?
[19:38] <Stephen37> Why the ubuntu RC lacks the ubuntu-bug application ? That means we can't file bugs related to it ?
[19:39] <Stephen37> *It
[19:39] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: all you need to to boot and go to rescue
[19:39] <An_Ony_Moose> boot up and go to rescue?
[19:39] <An_Ony_Moose> :/
[19:40] <An_Ony_Moose> the grub rescue prompt that pops up?
[19:40] <yofel> Stephen37: what rc are you using? apport isn't installed by default on servers, but it should be there on desktop installations
[19:41] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, I'm in the grub rescue> prompt
[19:41] <Stephen37> yofel I am using the default desktop pc release candidate
[19:41] <An_Ony_Moose> what do I do now?
[19:42] <yofel> Stephen37: ok, what does 'apt-cache policy apport-gtk' give you?
[19:43] <hggdh> An_Ony_Moose: no it was the rescue option on the install menu
[19:44] <Stephen37> yofel, apport-gtk: Installed:..., strangely it didn't open when I tried it in the run
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> hggdh, grub failed and gave me the grub rescue> prompt
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> but I managed to boot ubuntu
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> insmod /boot/grub/normal.mod
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> normal
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> then I could boot
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> now I'm going to update-grub and see if it works
[19:45] <yofel> Stephen37: odd, just running ubuntu-bug should give you a selection window...
[19:45] <yofel> as it does here
[19:46] <yofel> or give you an error window if you don't have the symptoms installed
[19:47] <Stephen37> yofel, it works like that but when I put in a package, like I used to do it didn't, I am not so experienced so by not seeing the Report in System I supposed it isn't installed. , only the command works
[19:48] <yofel> the 'Report a problem...' menu entry in the main menu was removed as it was broken
[19:48] <yofel> and what package did you try?
[19:48] <Stephen37> rhytmbox
[19:50] <seb128> yofel, it was not broken no
[19:50] <seb128> yofel, stable users just usually have questions rather than clear bug report so they are directed to the answer tracker
[19:50] <yofel> ah right
[19:53] <An_Ony_Moose> what the... The menu for shutting down/logging off/rebooting has gone? O_o
[19:59] <An_Ony_Moose> meh. How do I get grub to "forget" about a once-existant partition?
[20:00] <hggdh> is it still in /etc/fstab?
[20:02] <An_Ony_Moose> oops, wrong channel, but *checks*
[20:03] <An_Ony_Moose> aaand, no.
[20:25] <simar> hey could anyone tell how can I post a bug that the brightness of laptop having nvidia graphics card , connot be controlled by function keys ...
[20:25] <simar> ????
[20:26] <ivoks> that's not relevant to video card
[20:27] <ivoks> but to laptop model
[20:27] <simar> ivoks but i think all laptops having nvidia g.c have the problem
[20:28] <ivoks> one doesn't change brightness of video card
[20:28] <simar> ivoks by the way mine is sony vaio vpc-cw series
[20:28] <ivoks> instead one changes brightness of lcd/monitor/crt
[20:29] <ivoks> i'm not sure what subsystem is exactly responisble for that
[20:29] <ivoks> probably dbus
[20:29] <simar> ivoks how could i post the bug using ubuntu-bug  .... i mean which package does it belongs to ????
[20:30] <ivoks> or udev
[20:30] <ivoks> udev
[20:31] <simar> ivoks, But please guide me how can i report the problem ...  I am a new user
[20:31] <ivoks> if it's wrong, udev maintainers will reassign it to correct tool
[20:31] <ivoks> simar: just run 'ubuntu-bug'
[20:31] <simar> ivoks, ubuntu-bug udev ??? is it??
[20:32] <ivoks> no, just ubuntu-bug
[20:32] <ivoks> that will start wizzard
[20:32] <simar> ivoks, ya i got it ,then
[20:47] <yofel> jibel: would bug 564308 still be possible for lucid or is it too late/not sru stuff?
[20:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 564308 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "Error in dpkg-architecture man page (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564308
[20:55] <yofel> can someone reproduce bug 570907?
[20:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 570907 in apport (Ubuntu) "[Lucid] apport hangs when canceling a rhythmbox report (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570907
[20:58] <jibel> yofel, too late for the final release, the deadline was sunday.
[20:58] <yofel> ok
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[21:13] <trinikrono> hey all
[21:24] <arand> yofel: Unable to reproduce 570907 on my lucid vbox
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[21:25] <yofel> odd, I can reproduce it on my i386 and my amd64 box, maybe apport-kde related
[21:26] <yofel> yes, apport-kde. -gtk works fine
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[22:35] <eddie_> ciao
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