[21:11] <drubin> Hi is any one awake/alive
[21:12] <drubin> ;-p
[21:12] <Jozo> no
[21:14] <drubin> ;-p
[21:14] <drubin> Is the new version openjdk supposed to work with GUI apps on lucid?
[21:15] <nthykier> drubin: Yes, (assuming if you have the non-headless package)
[21:15] <drubin> I know this is more about packaging then support.. but when standard apt-get install netbeans starts blank white screen
[21:15] <drubin> nthykier: double checks that
[21:16] <nthykier> Also, you may have another java than openjdk installed (e.g. gcj) providing your alternatives (/usr/bin/java)
[21:16] <drubin> pretty sure I don't have another version of java
[21:19] <drubin> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8) (6b18-1.8-0ubuntu1)
[21:19] <nthykier> Sounds about right
[21:19] <drubin> I have both headless and normal installed ;/
[21:20] <nthykier> The headless is a subset of the "normal" one
[21:20] <nthykier> so that makes sense
[21:20] <drubin> nthykier: Ok so that isn't the issue then.
[21:23] <drubin> I guess this serves me right for thinking I should take a development version to a conference. ;-p and only do testing the day before
[21:58] <drubin> For any one that cares it seemed to be the fact that netbeans wouldn't run using the DM xmonad, seems to work with gnome
[22:31] <facefaceface> Setting up libsvn-javahl (1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1.1) ...
[22:31] <facefaceface> so I'm guessing I want subclipse 1.2.x
[22:32] <facefaceface> question is... do I need to tell Java (when used for Eclipse) where to find the library
[22:32] <facefaceface> ?
[22:32] <facefaceface> hello
[22:33] <nthykier> hey again
[22:33] <facefaceface> should I restart eclipse after loading this lib?
[22:33] <facefaceface> (I'm in the wrong channel again aren't I)
[22:34] <nthykier> erh, hard to tell now that you went back to eclipse... :P anyhow...
[22:35] <nthykier> We have had some reporting problems with javahl and success with svnkit
[22:35] <nthykier> though I am not sure if they installed svnkit via Ubuntu's repository or via eclipse itself... I am guessing the latter
[22:36] <facefaceface> lemmy see...
[22:36] <facefaceface> its another plugin right?
[22:36] <nthykier> yes
[22:36] <facefaceface> not in my repo
[22:36] <facefaceface> does it need javahl?
[22:36] <nthykier> regardless, when installing new stuff for eclipse you need to restart eclipse to make it work
[22:37] <facefaceface> ty
[22:37] <nthykier> no - it should not need javahl
[22:37] <nthykier> in fact that is probably why it works
[22:37] <nthykier> you probably have to add another update site for it
[22:37] <facefaceface> OK, I'll look...
[22:37] <facefaceface> btw, is this error expected:
[22:38] <nthykier> errors are in generally not expected; :P
[22:38] <facefaceface> Network connection problems encountered during search.
[22:38] <facefaceface>   Unable to access "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2".
[22:38] <facefaceface>     Unable to access site: "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2" [Server returned HTTP response code: "403 Forbidden" for URL: http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2.]
[22:38] <facefaceface>     Unable to access site: "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2" [Server returned HTTP response code: "403 Forbidden" for URL: http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2.]
[22:38] <facefaceface> oops
[22:38] <facefaceface> sorry Network connection problems encountered during search.
[22:38] <facefaceface>   Unable to access "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2".
[22:38] <facefaceface>     Unable to access site: "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2" [Server returned HTTP response code: "403 Forbidden" for URL: http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2.]
[22:38] <facefaceface>     Unable to access site: "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2" [Server returned HTTP response code: "403 Forbidden" for URL: http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.2.]
[22:38] <facefaceface> DOH
[22:38] <facefaceface> I was trying to type 'sorry about that'
[22:38] <nthykier> you want to remove that site if you are using eclipse 3.5
[22:39] <facefaceface> ended up pasting again!
[22:39] <facefaceface> this version of ubuntu comes with 3.2.2
[22:39] <facefaceface> Build id: M20070212-1330 (Ubuntu version: 3.2.2-5ubuntu2)
[22:39] <nthykier> Holy... then you are on 8.10 or older?
[22:40] <facefaceface> forgot how to find out on ubuntu...
[22:41] <facefaceface> system -> about -> Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 8.04 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008.
[22:42] <facefaceface> well... its stable ;-)
[22:43] <nthykier> That eclipse is probably 3 years old... maybe 4
[22:44] <nthykier> I am not sure they still provide plugins for it; but you are looking for the SVNKit connector for eclipse 3.2
[22:45] <facefaceface> I'm going to see if I can get svnclipse to work... just because I'm a total beginner
[22:45] <facefaceface> somhow I want to see my path of enquiry through :-)
[22:46] <nthykier> There are or were two svn plugins for eclipse... subversive and subeclipse (as I recall)
[22:46] <nthykier> I do not know which one I used; but with that you had to install a connector after installing it
[22:46] <facefaceface> oh... are plugins different from connectors?
[22:47] <nthykier> erh, as I understand it, they are a plugin
[22:47] <nthykier> they are used by the sub$something plugin to complete the SVN requests
[22:48] <facefaceface> IC