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* Obsidian1723 work is over yeah!! Time to go home. cya all00:01
tonyyarussoexigraff, h00k, jenkinbr: Has there been any movement on a Duluth/Superior or Grand Rapids release event?  Or just Madison and Twin Cities?21:05
tonyyarussoAlpha_Cluster: Do you have something put together for Northwest yet?21:05
Alpha_Clustertonyyarusso: no i havent really be doing much sorry :(22:31
Alpha_Clusteri actually havent even been using ubuntu much22:31
Obsidian1723Alpha, what do you use?22:34
Alpha_ClusterOSX >.< and WHS mostly22:36
Alpha_Clusteri have a copy of ubuntu and kubuntu that run in parallels its just ati's drivers cause tearing on my media center computer22:37
Alpha_Clusterotherwise i might have a linux box22:37
Obsidian1723ahhh22:39
Obsidian1723Why OIS X?22:39
Obsidian1723OS X22:39
Alpha_Clustercause its Unix and they make really nice laptops22:39
Obsidian1723Its not UNIX..22:40
Alpha_Clusterum actaully it is22:40
Alpha_Clusterits got the unix certs22:40
tonyyarussoAlpha_Cluster: Well, if you can still coax someone else into organizing something, that'd be nice.  :)22:40
Alpha_Clusterrofl22:40
Obsidian1723Its a hybrid mix of NeXtstep misxed with FreeBSD. FreeBSD is a deriviative of UNIX, where as Mac OS X is a hybrid / derivative of a derivaitve.22:41
Alpha_Clusteri dont know anyone really up here to much...22:41
tonyyarussoObsidian1723: http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=19719&pagtype=allchandate22:42
Alpha_Clusteryeah unix is a cert nothing more22:43
tonyyarussoright22:43
Obsidian1723yah?22:43
Obsidian1723Well Mac OS isn't SCo, System V22:43
Alpha_Clusterwhy does that have anything to do wtih Unix?22:44
Alpha_Clusterall unix means is The Open Group certified it and its posix complient22:45
* Alpha_Cluster stabs 5400rpm hdd22:48
Alpha_Clusterstupid laptop harddrives22:48
tonyyarussoAlpha_Cluster: Seriously, if you could even get four or five people to hang out and talk about Lucid for an hour at a coffee shop it would make me happy.22:51
tonyyarussoAnd with that, I should head out.22:51
Alpha_Clustertonyyarusso: we shall see what i can do22:51
tonyyarussoTakyoji: Same goes for you down in the South :)22:51
Alpha_Clusteryay im not hte only bad one >.<22:52
Takyoji:P22:53
TakyojiOtherwise it may have to be a week late.22:53
TakyojiAs in, next week.22:53
Alpha_Clusterlol22:53
Alpha_Clusteryeah i haave the same problm22:53
Alpha_Clustermaybe the X server will work by then too22:53
Alpha_Clusteror have they fixed that22:53
* Obsidian1723 is back22:55
Alpha_ClusterUNIX smash22:56
Takyojiotherwise I'll actually have a laptop to bring with me for once. :D22:56
Takyojifor the installfest22:56
Alpha_Clusterlol i actually dont have a mobile linux comp >.<22:56
Alpha_Clusteri just got a vm22:56
Obsidian1723Good to have a mobile Linux box.22:57
Takyojioh that's right, aren't you that Windows elitist that doesn't even use Ubuntu? :P22:57
Takyoji(kidding of course)22:57
Alpha_ClusterTakyoji: actually i a windows server and a MacBook Pro :p22:57
Alpha_Clusteri keep trying to use Ubuntu for my media center but ATI doesnt want it to happen22:58
Obsidian1723Try Mythbuntu?22:58
Alpha_Clusterist the graphics driver tears22:58
Alpha_Clusteri know more then enough about linux to configure the rest but i cannot get fglrx to not tear22:59
Obsidian1723Swap it out for an Nvidia or a PTCV550022:59
Obsidian1723PCTV550022:59
Obsidian1723yeah ATI can be a biatchie.22:59
Obsidian1723You can never go wrong with Intel/Nvidia22:59
Alpha_Clusteroh iknow22:59
Alpha_Clusteryeah you can go very wrong23:00
Obsidian1723AMD/ATI, lotsa issues23:00
Alpha_Clusteri hate nvidia's elitism23:00
Obsidian1723'yeah, but it works.23:00
Alpha_Clusteri dont care23:00
Alpha_Clusteri want it to work correctly23:00
Alpha_Clusterand in linux that means FOSS drivers23:00
Obsidian1723It's certainly less restrcitive than Apple is.23:00
Obsidian1723Well, FOSS is nice if you can get it... I'm not like rms where it must be free or nothing at all.23:01
Alpha_Clustereh with apple i have no expectation that anything above cocoa is open on linux i shouldnt have to run a nvidia binary blog to get my grpahics23:01
Alpha_Clusterati at least is making it possible to write the drivers23:01
Alpha_Clusterand actualy those drivers will probably work here in a few months for me23:01
Alpha_ClusterObsidian1723: btw problem with the HD5500 no cable card23:02
Alpha_Clusterbesides nvidida doesnt make hdmi ports on their graphics cards23:04
Obsidian1723True...23:04
Alpha_Clusterwhich is the only way i will plug a computer into my tv besides displayport23:04
TakyojiIsn't HDMI patent-encumbered? :P23:05
Alpha_Cluster?23:05
Obsidian1723heh23:05
Alpha_Clusteryou need to license it like 90% of port technologies23:06
Alpha_Clusteri dont believe there is anything encumbering about video going through it23:06
h00ktonyyarusso: I've been busy,the only thing that I see in the state is down in Madison where I'll be headed23:13

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