[00:01] * Obsidian1723 work is over yeah!! Time to go home. cya all [21:05] exigraff, h00k, jenkinbr: Has there been any movement on a Duluth/Superior or Grand Rapids release event? Or just Madison and Twin Cities? [21:05] Alpha_Cluster: Do you have something put together for Northwest yet? [22:31] tonyyarusso: no i havent really be doing much sorry :( [22:31] i actually havent even been using ubuntu much [22:34] Alpha, what do you use? [22:36] OSX >.< and WHS mostly [22:37] i have a copy of ubuntu and kubuntu that run in parallels its just ati's drivers cause tearing on my media center computer [22:37] otherwise i might have a linux box [22:39] ahhh [22:39] Why OIS X? [22:39] OS X [22:39] cause its Unix and they make really nice laptops [22:40] Its not UNIX.. [22:40] um actaully it is [22:40] its got the unix certs [22:40] Alpha_Cluster: Well, if you can still coax someone else into organizing something, that'd be nice. :) [22:40] rofl [22:41] Its a hybrid mix of NeXtstep misxed with FreeBSD. FreeBSD is a deriviative of UNIX, where as Mac OS X is a hybrid / derivative of a derivaitve. [22:41] i dont know anyone really up here to much... [22:42] Obsidian1723: http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=19719&pagtype=allchandate [22:43] yeah unix is a cert nothing more [22:43] right [22:43] yah? [22:43] Well Mac OS isn't SCo, System V [22:44] why does that have anything to do wtih Unix? [22:45] all unix means is The Open Group certified it and its posix complient [22:48] * Alpha_Cluster stabs 5400rpm hdd [22:48] stupid laptop harddrives [22:51] Alpha_Cluster: Seriously, if you could even get four or five people to hang out and talk about Lucid for an hour at a coffee shop it would make me happy. [22:51] And with that, I should head out. [22:51] tonyyarusso: we shall see what i can do [22:51] Takyoji: Same goes for you down in the South :) [22:52] yay im not hte only bad one >.< [22:53] :P [22:53] Otherwise it may have to be a week late. [22:53] As in, next week. [22:53] lol [22:53] yeah i haave the same problm [22:53] maybe the X server will work by then too [22:53] or have they fixed that [22:55] * Obsidian1723 is back [22:56] UNIX smash [22:56] otherwise I'll actually have a laptop to bring with me for once. :D [22:56] for the installfest [22:56] lol i actually dont have a mobile linux comp >.< [22:56] i just got a vm [22:57] Good to have a mobile Linux box. [22:57] oh that's right, aren't you that Windows elitist that doesn't even use Ubuntu? :P [22:57] (kidding of course) [22:57] Takyoji: actually i a windows server and a MacBook Pro :p [22:58] i keep trying to use Ubuntu for my media center but ATI doesnt want it to happen [22:58] Try Mythbuntu? [22:58] ist the graphics driver tears [22:59] i know more then enough about linux to configure the rest but i cannot get fglrx to not tear [22:59] Swap it out for an Nvidia or a PTCV5500 [22:59] PCTV5500 [22:59] yeah ATI can be a biatchie. [22:59] You can never go wrong with Intel/Nvidia [22:59] oh iknow [23:00] yeah you can go very wrong [23:00] AMD/ATI, lotsa issues [23:00] i hate nvidia's elitism [23:00] 'yeah, but it works. [23:00] i dont care [23:00] i want it to work correctly [23:00] and in linux that means FOSS drivers [23:00] It's certainly less restrcitive than Apple is. [23:01] Well, FOSS is nice if you can get it... I'm not like rms where it must be free or nothing at all. [23:01] eh with apple i have no expectation that anything above cocoa is open on linux i shouldnt have to run a nvidia binary blog to get my grpahics [23:01] ati at least is making it possible to write the drivers [23:01] and actualy those drivers will probably work here in a few months for me [23:02] Obsidian1723: btw problem with the HD5500 no cable card [23:04] besides nvidida doesnt make hdmi ports on their graphics cards [23:04] True... [23:04] which is the only way i will plug a computer into my tv besides displayport [23:05] Isn't HDMI patent-encumbered? :P [23:05] ? [23:05] heh [23:06] you need to license it like 90% of port technologies [23:06] i dont believe there is anything encumbering about video going through it [23:13] tonyyarusso: I've been busy,the only thing that I see in the state is down in Madison where I'll be headed