[00:00] <rlameiro> Wine is a compatibility layer for windows software
[00:00] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: i dont miss anything
[00:00] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: there are tonnes of plugins to play with ... judge for yourself
[00:01] <Ray_ME> i did a bit of reading about wine
[00:01] <Ray_ME> have you tried using adobe audition 3 by any chance?
[00:01] <rlameiro> why would i?
[00:01] <rlameiro> hehe
[00:01] <Ray_ME> with ubst wine set up?
[00:01] <Ray_ME> :P
[00:02] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: from what i see- wine is a headache ...
[00:02] <rlameiro> you have ardour
[00:02] <rlameiro> why do you need audition?
[00:02] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: why not dual boot
[00:03] <Ray_ME> no i own it, ive been using the cool edit family since back in the day
[00:03] <_guitarman_> see how you like it.  adobe audition is a fine daw...
[00:04] <Ray_ME> ive been thinking about switching because my gear is outdated but i dont want to upgrade, xp crashes way too much
[00:04] <_guitarman_> ahhhh there you go
[00:05] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: do you have the means to install it alongside your XP?
[00:05] <rlameiro> well :D welcome then
[00:05] <stochastic> Ray_ME, I've always loved the Cool Edit family when on windows, but since moving to Ardour (for multi tracking) and Rezound (for editing) I've been very happy.
[00:05] <_guitarman_> enough hd space, or a spare disk drive
[00:05] <Ray_ME> i built my own pc so i had to install xp on it
[00:06] <Ray_ME> cool, im going to take a look at those daws stochastic
[00:07] <Ray_ME> i built it about 2 years ago just for my studio work, but only recently learned about ubuntu studio
[00:07] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: if you do just audio then ardour for the daw, if you do audio and midi then look up Qtractor.
[00:08] <Ray_ME> thanks for all the input, i just want more options and stable results
[00:08] <_guitarman_> here's a Q though... what audio card/interface do you have Ray_ME
[00:08] <rlameiro> Ray_ME: hang around in here
[00:08] <Ray_ME> hehe i use the c-port st audio
[00:08] <rlameiro> lots of info can be exchanged in the channel
[00:08] <Ray_ME> i will, im digging this room, its been years since ive been in a irc
[00:09] <rlameiro> Ray_ME: which sound interface you have?
[00:10] <Ray_ME> dsp2000 c-port
[00:11] <rlameiro> dont know it
[00:11] <_guitarman_> looks like maybe its supported by alsa
[00:11] <rlameiro> well, i am not an expert also, so its natural :D
[00:11] <_guitarman_> google says it knows
[00:14] <Ray_ME> so what are you all in to, music, graphics, multi-media ect...
[00:16] <_guitarman_> music is fun. il ike it
[00:21] <Ray_ME> hello, komputes
[01:57] <eein> is anyone familiar with sound forge?  I am trying to find a wave editor that can do acid functionality like half selections, show in measures when a set bpm is chosen, mix in a paste, and snap selection to a zero sine.  I have been trying to work with audacity for the longest time but it just doesn't work well for what I am looking for (or at least I dont know how to make it work)
[02:02] <komputes> hi Ray_ME
[02:03] <Ray_ME> hi
[02:04] <Ray_ME> not familiar with audacitys functions eein, sorry
[02:05] <eein> Ray_ME, are you familiar with any wave editors that would do that functionality?
[02:06] <holstein> live gig http://holstein.shacknet.nu:8227/stream.ogg
[02:21] <Ray_ME> sorry i was afk. i just use adobe audition 3 because im very comfy using it.
[02:22] <rlameiro> eein: i dont know what you want to do, but did you tried ardour?
[02:23] <Ray_ME> if you are trying to get a wave to snap at zero and its lining the wave at an off time. you should just be able to high-light the start of the wave and hit delete to remove the offset
[02:25] <eein> my main issue with audacity is i want to set a bpm for the wave file and then have the time represented in measures, this helps to find a note that is off
[02:25] <eein> it only displays in time, smaples, and various video time
[02:30] <Ray_ME> might want to try some other programs keyed to in depth editing.  iver tried audacity for a few minutes and i didnt like the work flow
[02:30] <rlameiro> eein, Ardour works with bpm and bars etc
[04:38] <Fezzler> Is there a REAPER IRC channel?
[09:22] <AutoStatic> Is there any news regarding 10.04 and a possible RT kernel?
[09:49] <jussi> AutoStatic: yes there is, its available for testing!
[09:51] <jussi> AutoStatic: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all
[10:26] <AutoStatic> oh sorry, I was busy with something else
[10:26] <AutoStatic> I'll check it out right away!
[10:27] <AutoStatic> Thanks jussi
[10:27] <jussi> :)
[10:31] <AutoStatic> so as in yellow is the new orange
[10:31] <AutoStatic> preempt is the new rt? ;)
[10:31] <AutoStatic> and the daily build includes the 2.6.31-rt headers
[10:31] <AutoStatic> but not a 2.6.31-rt image?
[16:47] <sib> Hello, there. I've got an external drive that seems to be changing permissions on me. How do you guys set permissions on external drives that travel between several different boxes?
[16:49] <holstein> hey sib
[16:49] <holstein> for me
[16:49] <holstein> i got a firewire/USB drive
[16:49] <sib> holstein: hey there...
[16:49] <holstein> external
[16:50] <holstein> and i just mount it each time
[16:50] <holstein> and i havent had any issues
[16:50] <sib> holstein: karmic?
[16:50] <holstein> yup
[16:50] <holstein> but its been like that for a while
[16:50] <holstein> hardy
[16:50] <holstein> sib: what is the error?
[16:50] <holstein> is this gnome?
[16:50] <sib> holstein: huh. I'm having the stupidest time with it right now.
[16:51] <sib> holstein: gnome, yes.
[16:51] <holstein> hmmm
[16:52] <holstein> SO
[16:52] <sib> holstein: first, I recorded audio onto an external drive (esata), that I can't even remember how, but I finally got permissions on.
[16:52] <holstein> OH, USB ?
[16:52] <holstein> OH
[16:52] <holstein> ok
[16:52]  * holstein has not used an Esata drive
[16:53] <sib> holstein: then, using grsync (rsync front end) I backed up the session to an external firewire drive that just mounted.
[16:53] <holstein> what have you tried?
[16:53] <holstein> did you try to mount it
[16:53] <holstein> into a mount point
[16:53] <holstein> and chown that dir ?
[16:53] <holstein> i added a PATA drive to my system
[16:53] <holstein> in etc/fstab
[16:53] <sib> holstein: now, again with rsync, rsync sees the exact same disk (the FW external) as read only, and I've not changed any permissions on it...
[16:54] <holstein> and when it was added, i didnt have write permissinos
[16:54] <holstein> permissions*
[16:54] <sib> holstein: the esata drive is behaving itself, but the fw is flipping out, somehow.
[16:54] <holstein> that is strange
[16:55] <holstein> sib: my user is in the video group
[16:55] <holstein> because i have a firewire audio interface
[16:55] <sib> holstein: I've tried using "gksudo nautilus" to change the permissions, but no dice. they just don't "take"
[16:57] <sib> holstein: hmmm... "video" group, eh? I made an "audio" group and gave it permissions, they seem to be on the drive, I'm in the audio group, but now I can't even create a folder (as normal or super user) and rsync contantly bitches that it's a "read-only" system.
[16:58] <sib> holstein: I guess I'll just chmod it to give everyone permission. I don't like the idea of that, but I'm not sure why; it's not a system disk or anything.
[17:15] <sib> anybody here have netjack (particularly alsa_in and alsa_out) working in Karmic?
[17:17] <sib> holstein: BTW, I forgot to mention that both external drives in question are HFS+, and that may be adding to or even causing my problems...
[17:33] <holstein> sib: thats a lot of variables that im not familiar with
[17:34] <holstein> i have only had FW/USB drives FAT formatted
[17:34] <holstein> i still would not expect the formatting to effect permissions
[17:34]  * holstein gotta run
[17:35] <holstein> i did some successful netjack tests on karmic
[17:35] <holstein> sib: check out #opensourcemusicians
[17:35] <sib> holstein: cool. thanks.
[17:35] <holstein> my tests were local
[17:36] <sib> holstein: have you used alsa_in and alsa_out?
[17:36] <holstein> some guys in there were doing it VIA lan
[17:36] <holstein> sib: its been so long
[17:36] <holstein> i forget what all i tested
[17:36] <holstein> i know i had my firewire device going on my main box
[17:37] <holstein> and a 'dummy' device on the other
[17:37] <holstein> and thats the main configuration i used
[17:37] <holstein> and that would not be using alsa
[20:31] <milanbv> hi there! any dev around?
[23:48] <vlada> hi
[23:49] <vlada> are ppl awake here?
[23:50] <vlada> since 10.04 release is near, and 9.10 is my first ubuntu linux ever, I want to know what is the proper way of upgrading...
[23:51] <vlada> is it safe to do already, or should I wait for famous "New release available" button to appear
[23:51] <vlada> ?