[00:00] Wine is a compatibility layer for windows software [00:00] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: i dont miss anything [00:00] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: there are tonnes of plugins to play with ... judge for yourself [00:01] i did a bit of reading about wine [00:01] have you tried using adobe audition 3 by any chance? [00:01] why would i? [00:01] hehe [00:01] with ubst wine set up? [00:01] :P [00:02] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: from what i see- wine is a headache ... [00:02] you have ardour [00:02] why do you need audition? [00:02] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: why not dual boot [00:03] no i own it, ive been using the cool edit family since back in the day [00:03] <_guitarman_> see how you like it. adobe audition is a fine daw... [00:04] ive been thinking about switching because my gear is outdated but i dont want to upgrade, xp crashes way too much [00:04] <_guitarman_> ahhhh there you go [00:05] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: do you have the means to install it alongside your XP? [00:05] well :D welcome then [00:05] Ray_ME, I've always loved the Cool Edit family when on windows, but since moving to Ardour (for multi tracking) and Rezound (for editing) I've been very happy. [00:05] <_guitarman_> enough hd space, or a spare disk drive [00:05] i built my own pc so i had to install xp on it [00:06] cool, im going to take a look at those daws stochastic [00:07] i built it about 2 years ago just for my studio work, but only recently learned about ubuntu studio [00:07] <_guitarman_> Ray_ME: if you do just audio then ardour for the daw, if you do audio and midi then look up Qtractor. [00:08] thanks for all the input, i just want more options and stable results [00:08] <_guitarman_> here's a Q though... what audio card/interface do you have Ray_ME [00:08] Ray_ME: hang around in here [00:08] hehe i use the c-port st audio [00:08] lots of info can be exchanged in the channel [00:08] i will, im digging this room, its been years since ive been in a irc [00:09] Ray_ME: which sound interface you have? [00:10] dsp2000 c-port [00:11] dont know it [00:11] <_guitarman_> looks like maybe its supported by alsa [00:11] well, i am not an expert also, so its natural :D [00:11] <_guitarman_> google says it knows [00:14] so what are you all in to, music, graphics, multi-media ect... [00:16] <_guitarman_> music is fun. il ike it [00:21] hello, komputes [01:57] is anyone familiar with sound forge? I am trying to find a wave editor that can do acid functionality like half selections, show in measures when a set bpm is chosen, mix in a paste, and snap selection to a zero sine. I have been trying to work with audacity for the longest time but it just doesn't work well for what I am looking for (or at least I dont know how to make it work) [02:02] hi Ray_ME [02:03] hi [02:04] not familiar with audacitys functions eein, sorry [02:05] Ray_ME, are you familiar with any wave editors that would do that functionality? [02:06] live gig http://holstein.shacknet.nu:8227/stream.ogg [02:21] sorry i was afk. i just use adobe audition 3 because im very comfy using it. [02:22] eein: i dont know what you want to do, but did you tried ardour? [02:23] if you are trying to get a wave to snap at zero and its lining the wave at an off time. you should just be able to high-light the start of the wave and hit delete to remove the offset [02:25] my main issue with audacity is i want to set a bpm for the wave file and then have the time represented in measures, this helps to find a note that is off [02:25] it only displays in time, smaples, and various video time [02:30] might want to try some other programs keyed to in depth editing. iver tried audacity for a few minutes and i didnt like the work flow [02:30] eein, Ardour works with bpm and bars etc [04:38] Is there a REAPER IRC channel? [09:22] Is there any news regarding 10.04 and a possible RT kernel? [09:49] AutoStatic: yes there is, its available for testing! [09:51] AutoStatic: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all [10:26] oh sorry, I was busy with something else [10:26] I'll check it out right away! [10:27] Thanks jussi [10:27] :) [10:31] so as in yellow is the new orange [10:31] preempt is the new rt? ;) [10:31] and the daily build includes the 2.6.31-rt headers [10:31] but not a 2.6.31-rt image? [16:47] Hello, there. I've got an external drive that seems to be changing permissions on me. How do you guys set permissions on external drives that travel between several different boxes? [16:49] hey sib [16:49] for me [16:49] i got a firewire/USB drive [16:49] holstein: hey there... [16:49] external [16:50] and i just mount it each time [16:50] and i havent had any issues [16:50] holstein: karmic? [16:50] yup [16:50] but its been like that for a while [16:50] hardy [16:50] sib: what is the error? [16:50] is this gnome? [16:50] holstein: huh. I'm having the stupidest time with it right now. [16:51] holstein: gnome, yes. [16:51] hmmm [16:52] SO [16:52] holstein: first, I recorded audio onto an external drive (esata), that I can't even remember how, but I finally got permissions on. [16:52] OH, USB ? [16:52] OH [16:52] ok [16:52] * holstein has not used an Esata drive [16:53] holstein: then, using grsync (rsync front end) I backed up the session to an external firewire drive that just mounted. [16:53] what have you tried? [16:53] did you try to mount it [16:53] into a mount point [16:53] and chown that dir ? [16:53] i added a PATA drive to my system [16:53] in etc/fstab [16:53] holstein: now, again with rsync, rsync sees the exact same disk (the FW external) as read only, and I've not changed any permissions on it... [16:54] and when it was added, i didnt have write permissinos [16:54] permissions* [16:54] holstein: the esata drive is behaving itself, but the fw is flipping out, somehow. [16:54] that is strange [16:55] sib: my user is in the video group [16:55] because i have a firewire audio interface [16:55] holstein: I've tried using "gksudo nautilus" to change the permissions, but no dice. they just don't "take" [16:57] holstein: hmmm... "video" group, eh? I made an "audio" group and gave it permissions, they seem to be on the drive, I'm in the audio group, but now I can't even create a folder (as normal or super user) and rsync contantly bitches that it's a "read-only" system. [16:58] holstein: I guess I'll just chmod it to give everyone permission. I don't like the idea of that, but I'm not sure why; it's not a system disk or anything. [17:15] anybody here have netjack (particularly alsa_in and alsa_out) working in Karmic? [17:17] holstein: BTW, I forgot to mention that both external drives in question are HFS+, and that may be adding to or even causing my problems... [17:33] sib: thats a lot of variables that im not familiar with [17:34] i have only had FW/USB drives FAT formatted [17:34] i still would not expect the formatting to effect permissions [17:34] * holstein gotta run [17:35] i did some successful netjack tests on karmic [17:35] sib: check out #opensourcemusicians [17:35] holstein: cool. thanks. [17:35] my tests were local [17:36] holstein: have you used alsa_in and alsa_out? [17:36] some guys in there were doing it VIA lan [17:36] sib: its been so long [17:36] i forget what all i tested [17:36] i know i had my firewire device going on my main box [17:37] and a 'dummy' device on the other [17:37] and thats the main configuration i used [17:37] and that would not be using alsa [20:31] hi there! any dev around? [23:48] hi [23:49] are ppl awake here? [23:50] since 10.04 release is near, and 9.10 is my first ubuntu linux ever, I want to know what is the proper way of upgrading... [23:51] is it safe to do already, or should I wait for famous "New release available" button to appear [23:51] ?