[00:00] Only most? :) [00:00] well [00:00] there is a .bzr/branch directory [00:00] something must be wrong with it for bzr to not think it's a branch [00:01] bzr info on my local dir lists push branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~james-tait/hedera/thunderbird3/ as a Related branch. [00:02] Hang on, what's that hyphen doing there? [00:02] ~james-tait [00:03] ohhh! [00:03] yes, that's a bit suspect [00:04] Now that's interesting. My LP username WAS james-tait, but I changed it to be in line with my username just about everywhere else. [00:04] ah [00:04] But that was prior to any branching activity. [00:05] jamestait: ok, i think i fixed the thunderbird3 branch [00:05] I just had trunk then. And I've committed to that since the username change, and before the branch. [00:05] jamestait: it was saying it was stacked on "/~james-tait/hedera/trunk" [00:05] OK, I'll try the push again then? [00:05] please do [00:06] Pushed up to revision 23. :) [00:06] Thank you very kindly. :) [00:07] It'd be nice to understand how I managed to do that, but I'm not sure how I'd go about reproducing it. [00:07] np [00:07] and sorry that this was so confusing! [00:07] Hey don't worry! [00:07] It's a learning curve - it's exactly why I decided to use bzr for this project. [00:08] I figured it'd be good to get some experience on my own project rather than trying to learn a new tool and get up to speed on someone else's projecy. [00:08] s/projecy/project [00:08] I've actually been veryhappy with the whole experience so far. [00:09] I've a way to go yet though before I can seriously consider applying for the Launchpad dev role. :) [00:19] jamestait: are you looking for work? [00:20] I hadn't used any DVCS before I started at canonical [00:22] thumper: I've applied for the Java Server developer role at Canonical. [00:22] we have a java server dev role? [00:23] I'm also interested in the Launchpad Web Engineer and Software Engineer roles, but my Python foo is not strong enough really. [00:24] http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/canonical_USJD/ [01:10] Right folks, it's past my bedtime again. Hopefully a solid night of hacking tomorrow and I should have something useful for my PPA. :) [01:11] Thanks for the help. [01:11] * jamestait waves [02:10] Is there a best practice for setting up an automated build server that "knows" when a bzr branch on Launchpad has been pushed to, grabs the latest bits, builds them, and makes them available? I can kind of see how to hack it by polling bzr pull (or update on a bound branch), do the build and cp the files to /var/www, but that's kind of inefficient because of the polling. [02:11] allquixotic: you could subscribe to the branch to get email notifications of new commits [02:12] allquixotic: and then trigger your build from that email [02:12] spiv: sounds like that would work :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [02:18] What exactly does this error mean: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/206949/ [02:18] I'm trying to push a new branch to LP [02:18] "bzr upgrade" locally said it's at latest ver [02:49] vadi2: probably that the development focus branch needs to be upgraded [02:49] Ah [10:19] When I visit any Launchpad bug report page, it hangs before getting to the details. [10:21] The header appears, and the bug report title; and “This bug affects N people” [10:21] and the “reported by” [10:21] and that's it. The spinner spins forever. [10:51] intellectronica: ^^ [10:52] oh [10:53] hi.. seems lp is having hickups , bug mail [comments or anything] at times get sent several times [10:53] bignose: haven't seen that before. can you still report a bug? [10:53] vish: really? can you file a bug and give a specific example? we haven't had a problem with bug mail sent more than once. [10:55] intellectronica: its been happening for the past few of days.. i thought it was my an evolution problem.. but I checked mail , it does turn out I'm receiving mails several times [10:55] s/my// [10:55] I hesitate to discuss it, because no, I'm not able to report a bug [10:55] * vish will file bug [10:56] since Launchpad requires yet-another-authentication-token, of which I already have too many and am trying to reduce their number [10:56] but that's a separate issue, and not one I'm here to raise. [10:56] I've been asked to search for bugs, and am unable to read the results; that's my motivation for reporting this failure [10:57] bignose: Which browser are you using? [10:57] Iceweasel 3.5.9 [10:57] was also happening with 3.5.8 for several weeks [10:58] Debian Squeeze, if it matters [10:59] I can post (to a pastebin) the source for the page I receive, if that would help [11:00] hmm , lp bug regarding bug mail needs to be filed in malone or..? [11:01] vish: Yes, malone is the right place. [11:01] neat ,ty [11:03] I receive the page source [11:04] when visiting [11:04] Ubuntu bug 374775 in bzr-gtk "bzr-gtk - running 'bzr visualize' as sudo root crashes with 'internal error'" [Medium,Triaged] [11:05] bignose: You have no JavaScript-related plugins (Firebug, for example)? [11:06] I have plenty. I can enable Firebug and answer questions related to you prompting me, if you like. [11:06] bignose: I was going to suggest that you disable them and see what happens. [11:07] troublesome. [11:07] could I try a different browser (GNOME Epiphany) and that would be a good enough test? [11:07] That would certainly be a useful data point. [11:08] trying now [11:10] quite slow to load, but it does eventually give a full bug report page. [11:10] okay, so it occurs in Iceweasel but not Epiphany. [11:12] I would suggest restarting Iceweasel with -safe-mode (that temporarily disables all plugins) and seeing if that works. [11:13] one leading dash, or two? [11:13] One. [11:14] This is Mozilla we're talking about :P [11:20] wgrant: same behaviour in Iceweasel 3.5.9 started with ‘iceweasel -safe-mode’ [11:21] it gets fairly rapidly to what looks like 80 or 90 percent, then the page just hangs spinning forever. [11:22] bignose: Can you screenshot it? [11:22] (also, did you completely close Iceweasel before starting it with -safe-mode?) [11:23] wgrant: yes I did, and yes I'll make a screenshot now. === Ng_ is now known as Ng [11:26] wgrant: what's a good way for me to get the screenshot to you? [11:26] CTCP to your IRC nick? [11:27] bigjools: upload one to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin [11:27] bignose: I'm not sure if that will work. You can't upload it to some image or general web hosting somewhere? [11:27] Ah, handy. [11:28] wgrant: [11:32] bignose: Hmmm. Certainly not something I've seen before. [11:35] I can drive Firebug as a novice, so if you want me to do some diagnosis, let me know what to do. [11:35] meanwhile I have to go eat with the family. [11:48] intellectronica: Bug #571181 .. let me know if i need to provide any other info.. [11:48] Launchpad bug 571181 in malone "LP sends same mail several times [bug mail and maling list mails]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571181 [11:49] vish: the example email you've given is not bug mail, it's an item from the ayatana mailing list. are you sure the problem you're experiencing is with bug mail? [11:50] intellectronica: yup , i;v attached the screenshots of the bug mail repeats as well.. the bug# was in the screenshot , hence didnt mention [11:51] the mail from qense came thrice . [11:52] vish: it will be useful if you could attach the email itself, complete with headers and all [11:52] vish: i very much doubt it's a problem with launchpad and that it actually sends the email more than once, but it's worth checking [11:57] intellectronica: attached the mail from 498182 .. do you want from other bugs as well? [11:57] vish: Bug 480090, for example, is subscribed to by Ubuntu Artwork Team and Ubuntu Bugs. You're a member of both. However, bug mail for Ubuntu Bugs go to an external mailing list. There's no way for Launchpad to know that you're subscribed to that mailing list, so you'll get the message twice, once via the Ubuntu Artwork Team and once from the Ubuntu Bugs mailing list. [11:57] Launchpad bug 480090 in human-theme "Hovering main menu entries in Evolution causes flickering of the highlighted one" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/480090 [11:58] vish: Can you check to see if that's the case with the other bugs you've seen duplicates for? [11:58] vish: notice how both attachments have the same message id [11:58] vish: There's a rationale at the very bottom of the emails you receive which should give an indication of why each message has been sent to you. [11:59] allenap: both mention the same: "member of Ubuntu Artwork Team," [11:59] yeah, given the identical message id i don't think that's the explanation [11:59] vish: Mmm, that's odd :-/ [12:00] LP would send using a different message id [12:00] intellectronica: Would it? [12:00] i think so, yes [12:00] definitely if the rationale is different, since this is a different message [12:01] allenap: until now , I havent received dups like that , being in two teams never caused repeat mail , it seems LP checks the members and does not repeat mails like that [12:01] yeah, you won't receive the same message twice for being in two teams, unless you're getting one of them via a mailing list (which doesn't seem to be the case here) [12:02] but i really think there's some problem with your client and the way you pull email, it doesn't look like lp is actually sending the message twice [12:02] intellectronica: It does for bug 480090. [12:02] Launchpad bug 480090 in human-theme "Hovering main menu entries in Evolution causes flickering of the highlighted one" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/480090 [12:03] intellectronica: client? as in evolution or mail service > yahoo? [12:03] vish: yes [12:03] intellectronica: Ubuntu Bugs contact address is ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com [12:03] allenap: right, that's a mailing list [12:04] intellectronica: maybe in yahoo , but not evo [atleast this time ;)] since the mails are there repeated in yahoo [12:04] in yahoo itself* [12:05] bah.. maybe i just need to switch lp mails to gmail :/ [12:06] hmmmm ... mysterious problem [12:07] vish: sorry we don't have an obvious solution to this right now. let's both follow up on that by checking if it happens to other users too and whether it happens to you again (and in what constelations - bug mail, mailing lists, etc) [12:07] i'm sure we'll get to the bottom of this eventually [12:08] intellectronica: np.. do you want me to attach other dup mails too? [12:40] is there an issue with ppa uploads for dapper? [12:41] ojwb: what is the problem you're experiencing? [12:41] uploaded packages for dapper and other ubuntu versions, and they're all showing up and building except the dapper ones [12:42] ojwb: which PPA and package name? === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:44] bigjools: https://launchpad.net/~xapian-backports/+archive/ppa/+packages - there should be dapper ones version 1.0.20-1.99dapper for xapian-core, xapian-bindings and xapian-omega [12:49] ojwb: did you check your email for a rejection? [12:50] you uploaded the dapper one with no .orig.tar.gz before it was uploaded elsewhere [12:50] bigjools: d'oh [12:50] sorry, i see what's happened now [12:50] :) === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [12:52] my script is supposed to put the .orig.tar.gz on the oldest one, since that uploads first alphabetically, but it put it with the hardy upload [13:04] bigjools: right, reuploading the dapper packages worked - sorry for wasting your time [13:08] Hi all [13:08] I d like to register a team project on launchpad. How should I proceed? [13:08] sorry a group project [13:12] remi_, you mean a project group -- something that groups together a bunch of different projects? [13:13] yes, exactly [13:14] remi_, the quickest way to get it done is to ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [13:14] I have a project made of server / client and some independent parts and i d like to regsiter them under the same group [13:14] I can't recall why we don't just let you create such a thing. [13:15] maybe because of spam or something like this... === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [13:37] 14:37 < asac> hell. there button for not using beta temporarily is gone on launchpad.net :( [13:37] any idea? [13:38] asac: There is an ajax link at the right hand side of the footer bar [13:39] on edge, that is [13:39] I guess it's a bit of an oversight that there's no way to do it via lpnet [13:40] maxb: problem is that i dont get any answer from edge. ;) [13:41] so i cant disable redirection :( [13:41] odd. I do [13:41] hm. maybe browser bustage. let me try [13:42] javascript:(function(){var%20cs%20=%20';%20Path=/;%20Secure;%20Domain=.launchpad.net';var%20d%20=%20new%20Date();var%20l%20=%20location.href;var%20i%20=%20l.indexOf("edge.launchpad.net");if%20(i%20!=%20-1)%20{d.setTime(d.getTime()%20+%202%20*%2060%20*%2060%20*%201000);document.cookie%20=%20'inhibit_beta_redirect=1;%20Expires='%20+%20d.toGMTString()%20+%20cs;location.href%20=%20l.substring(0,%20i)%20+%20l.substring(i%20+%205,%20l.length);}else% [13:42] 20{i%20=%20l.indexOf("launchpad.net");%20if%20(i%20!=%20-1)%20{d.setTime(d.getTime()%20+%201000);document.cookie%20=%20'inhibit_beta_redirect=0;%20Expires='%20+%20d.toGMTString()%20+%20cs;location.href%20=%20l.substring(0,%20i)%20+%20"edge."%20+%20l.substring(i,%20l.length);}else%20{location.href%20=%20"https://launchpad.net/";}}})() [13:42] ^ bookmarklet I wrote to flip between lpnet and edge [13:42] eek, I didn't realize it was quite that long or hideous when contracted [13:42] Or just use your favourite cookie editor to set inhibit_beta_redirect=1 === maxb changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net/ | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [13:47] ok seems it was just chromium [13:47] some folks complain about lp: protocol not working from within company firewalls ... what exactly would need to be opened so those work? [13:48] asac: To resolve lp:, you just need 443 to xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net. [13:48] After that you need 22 or 80 to bazaar.launchpad.net. [13:54] wgrant: hmm. ok. so i guess a https proxy would work? or is there a bug? [14:04] Hey guys, I like to create a PPA for vlc, is anyone here free to clear some of my doubts? [14:05] You should just ask your questions, people will answer if they can [14:06] I had a tarball of latest vlc source, how can I make a source deb from that file? Paste some links if you can... [14:07] napster; theres already PPA for vlc [14:08] piju, But not for lucid :) [14:08] napster; just wait. [14:08] okey [14:08] lucid is not release officially [14:08] napster; why dont you make a PPA for something else ? [14:09] other than vlc ? [14:09] piju, I thought it would be helpful... [14:09] napster; i got an idea [14:09] piju, okey, whats that? [14:10] napster; there is alot of hamradio apps for linux. [14:10] you can make PPA for them [14:10] ok [14:10] ok, can you suggest some most commonly used? [14:10] napster; http://radio.linux.org.au/?sectpat=All&ordpat=title [14:10] all of them [14:10] I mean commonly used hamradio app [14:11] napster; commonly already on ubuntu's repo [14:11] piju, pls wait [14:11] napster; ok [14:12] piju, I don't understatnd much :( Which one of them needs a PPA the most? [14:13] napster; all [14:13] piju, I've a farly good bandwidth, and can I pick some of them now? [14:14] napster; can you make PPA for all of them ? [14:14] napster; sure [14:15] piju, If I can download them atleast once in a week [14:15] piju, I think we can do weekly builds [14:15] is that ok? [14:18] napster; ok [14:19] piju, Some of them are obsolete? [14:19] napster; its ok. just take the latest apps [14:19] starting with latest apps [14:20] napster; im on #ubuntu-hams as well [14:21] piju, If you can teach me how to do it, then I will make the PPA upto-date as long as I can for he community... [14:21] napster; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete [14:23] piju, let me see, pls wait [14:23] napster; ok. === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [14:53] I try to post a bugreport on launchpad but I get an error saying the referer header is missing, can anyone help out ? [14:53] *a commend on a bugreport [14:53] *comment [14:57] taur, Are you using apport? [15:00] via web [15:00] I found a fix here https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/1024 [15:00] trying that now === yofel is now known as yofel_ [15:13] How can I add this to the bug tracker? http://drupal.org/node/784160 === yofel_ is now known as yofel__ [15:14] Do I just need to use a comment? === yofel__ is now known as yofel [15:18] Is it possible to rename a project? [15:20] It probably needs an admin to do it [15:20] maxb: I figured, I was just wondering if it was possible at all [15:21] you think it is? [15:24] (apparently) you can change the name via the API [15:24] maxb: DOH! Sorry..... Wrong channel, wrong system, [15:24] ? [15:24] I thought I was in #drupal [15:24] I forgot to change after my first question [15:25] Here's a LP related question though.. How does heat work? [15:27] https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/BugHeat [15:27] thanks - and sorry for the unrelated question === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === salgado-afk is now known as salgado-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck[afk] === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:23] A colleague is trying to do an Update operation on a launchpad bzr branch in my private (commercial) branch. He's on Windows XP running bzr 2.1.1 standalone. The error: "-> bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.TooManyConcurrentRequests: The medium 'SmartSSHClientMedium(bzr+ssh://my_user@bazaar.launchpad.net/)' has reached its concurrent request limit. Be sure to finish_writing and finish_reading on the currently open request." [17:23] Any insight? === EdwinGrubbs is now known as Edwin-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [18:36] mwhudson, ping [18:39] can someone of the LOSA's or people with magic powers: kill the currently running imports on neumayer & galapagos [18:39] they interlocked bzr-svn cache sql database [18:39] as far as I see [18:40] cause they should take about an hour to import incrementatlly 1000 revisions. These have been stuck for 12 hours [18:43] xnox: hi, I can look into that for you [18:43] Chex, thanks. [18:44] Chex, you probably want to look at all 4: lp:gcc lp:gcc/4.5 [18:44] lp:gcc/4.4 and lp:gcc/4.3 [18:45] xnox: ok, thanks [18:45] problem seems that they are all trying to access the same svn cache directory with two files about ~1.2GiB in size [18:45] Chex, the folder on my machine is called ~/.cache/bazaar/svn/138bc75d-0d04-0410-961f-82ee72b054a4 [18:46] which is the UUID of the svn repo all 4 trying to import from [18:54] hey, i'm wondering why i keep getting the error "Not a .changes file" when trying to upload a package to my ppa [18:55] with .changes i'm told i need to upload a signed file, but when i sign the .changes file, i'm told it's not a .changes file... [18:55] how do you sign? [18:56] i signed with gpg commandline [18:56] use debsign [18:56] okay [18:58] xnox: ok, I only found 2 gcc imports running on both of those machines.. [18:59] geser, that worked. thanks! [19:00] xnox: both have been killed. === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [19:04] fresh prawn curry [19:04] yummy [19:06] Chex, thanks a lot =) [19:07] * MTecknology thinks pitti is an over achiever [19:08] >1mil karma, now that's just being a show off :P [19:17] Can Rosetta be used for commercial / closed source projects? [19:20] MTecknology: volunteer to upload the language-packs and you will have soon also that much karma :) [19:23] now that i got my package uploaded, it says it will only build i386 package. is this normal, and should i be worried if i want an amd64 package as well? [19:23] geser: I don't know anything about other languages - I tried to learn another language so I could contribute to translations but I got nowhere. [19:24] geser: I was joking when I said that btw- === Edwin-lunch is now known as EdwinGrubbs [20:13] I try to delete a branch but I'm not allowed to because there are branches 'sharing revisions' how do I handle this? [20:19] MTecknology: In that case you won't ever be able to delete the branch unless all the branches stacked on it are also deleted [20:20] maxb: what does the stack mean? I figured out which one was stacked on it which shouldn't have had anything to do with it [20:20] I am admin of a moderated group is it possible to make an automatic message from launchpad that is sent to the user when the apply to be a member? [20:20] ubuntujenkins: when you approve/deny, there's a box there for it [20:21] maxb: when I push the branch again it just picks up on whatever the focus it. It has me kind of confused... [20:21] MTecknology: I was thinking more automatically. I know its lazy but i still have to type something there [20:22] MTecknology: stack means 'don't store another copy of revisions which are already stored in the stacked-on branch' [20:22] What are the two branches in question? [20:23] maxb: ~ubuntu-drupal-devs/ubuntu-drupal-theme/6.x-brown/ and ~ubuntu-drupal-devs/ubuntu-drupal-theme/6.x-2010/ [20:23] Launchpad automatically directs Bazaar to create new branches stacked on the development focus of the project concerned, because this is usually the right thing to do. [20:23] oh [20:23] In this case, that's the wrong thing [20:24] Why is it wrong here? [20:24] They're two very different branches differing from rev 1 [20:24] It is usually wrong for branches which share no history to be under the same launchpad project [20:25] They have the same point, it's just that the project had a 100% rewrite that started at a rev 1 [20:25] In that case, run 'bzr reconfigure --unstacked lp:whatever' [20:26] maxb: thanks :) - and thanks for the explanation [20:29] maxb: so.. if I don't own own of the branches that are stacked on top of it and it's an obsolete branch, and I've tried to contact the owner, can I file a question to have it removed? [20:30] Certainly you could, though I'd imagine that the immediate question from the LP admins would be "why not just mark the branch as abandoned and leave it there?" [20:32] maxb: well... If you wanna be smart about it [20:34] maxb: thanks :) [20:53] staging dead? [21:19] *ouch* at the PPA builder situation. Only 2 i386 and amd64 [21:19] I don't suppose platinum and samarium are easily resurrectable? [21:51] right place to ask about using the LP API? [21:55] What is the best way to use launchpad as a central repository? [21:56] Meaning I do my developing on one machine (bzr push lp:project) and then get the updated source from launchpad on the production machine? === deryck[afk] is now known as deryck === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [22:13] dutchie: yes [22:13] rephormat: what do you mean exactly? [22:13] thumper: Sorry I think I got my answer [22:13] rephormat: if you push from one machine and pull from another, your doing it already [22:13] :) [22:13] thumper: I didn't do a pull [22:13] thumper: my stupidity.. sorry [22:14] thumper: but I did figure out that how I will be continuing my development using checkout and branch [22:14] Is it just me or does launchpad seem... "sluggish" [22:14] what I want to do is write a custom bug form for the ubuntu manual project. the bit I'm having trouble with is authenticating into LP to actually report the bug. I think the main problem is my complete lack of understanding of oauth/openid [22:17] rephormat: we know there are some speed issues :) [22:17] thumper: not complaining by ANY means.. was just wondering if it was me. [22:17] ;-) [22:17] rephormat: it's sluggish for me [22:17] rephormat: slightly better in the UK [22:18] thumper: interesting. I wonder if its the service framework itself or the hardware is just over utilized [22:18] rephormat: it is may things [22:20] ok [23:12] hi [23:12] what can I do in case the password reset mechanism doesn't work for my account? [23:13] ah [23:14] kkaefer: What happens when you try? [23:14] I just don't get e-mails, but a confirmation page that it has been sent [23:14] (I also looked in the spam folders, of course) [23:14] oh, [23:14] the old e-mail address in my account worked [23:14] (which no longer should be associated with my account...) [23:15] is there a sync problem for e-mail addresses between account systems? [23:16] Sort of. There are at the moment two sets of email addresses which aren't synchronized any more: the ones on login.ubuntu.com and login.launchpad.net, and the ones on launchpad.net. [23:21] wgrant, is it safe now to make @ubuntu.com default email on login.ubuntu.com or not? [23:22] xnox: I don't know. But probably. [23:48] I can't seem to find where I can change the license for my LaunchPad Project. [23:49] I found it the other day but now I cant seem to locate the option. [23:53] LinuxGuy2009: there should be a link on the main project page near the license info [23:53] LinuxGuy2009: Follow the "Change details" link, use checkboxes at the bottom of the form [23:55] TresEquis: Thats what Im looking for. Thank you. [23:56] Im not sure if its ok to ask here but Im not sure what license I should use for my project. https://launchpad.net/multibootu [23:57] Its just a DVD ISO that uses grub4dos to boot ISO files from the DVD. I want people to be able to do whatever the heck they want with it. [23:57] What license reflects that? [23:59] Creative Commons looks close. Thatll do.