[04:20] <linkz0r> lobinho (nome bunitinho :3 )
[04:20] <linkz0r> g'night all
[04:20] <lobinho> hey \o
[04:24] <pedro3005> hey dudes
[04:25] <linkz0r> pedro, i think i remember you
[04:27] <pedro3005> fala linkz0r
[04:30] <linkz0r> heheh é vc msm :p
[04:30] <linkz0r> não tenho aparecido aki lol
[04:31] <linkz0r> e aí, oq vc tem feito?
[04:31] <lobinho> essa sala é brasileira? /perguntan00b
[04:31] <pedro3005> não
[04:32] <pedro3005> linkz0r, cara, melhorei um pouco em programação, ainda sou noob.. aprendi o basicão de C/C++
[04:32] <linkz0r> heh show :3
[04:33] <linkz0r> e eu em compensação n tenho feito qz nd :x
[04:33] <lobinho> o que você chama de basicão? já viu classes, orientação a objetos?
[04:33] <pedro3005> basicão é até mais ou menos loops while e for
[04:33] <linkz0r> heh
[04:33] <lobinho> ou isso
[04:33] <pedro3005> :p
[04:33] <linkz0r> c aprendeu basicamente C então
[04:34] <pedro3005> mas eu comecei num C++
[04:34] <linkz0r> hmm
[04:34] <pedro3005> então acho que sei o quase nada dos dois
[04:34] <pedro3005> :P
[04:34] <linkz0r> então classes e structs, c jah viu?
[04:34] <pedro3005> structs eu vi um pouquinho
[04:34] <pedro3005> conheço classes por Python, onde eu sou um pouco melhor
[04:40] <linkz0r> hi Quietstorm
[04:40] <PabloRubianes> hey you two... please english! pedro3005 linkz0r if someone want to participate in the conversation ;-)
[04:40] <linkz0r> sorry PabloRubianes :<
[04:40] <linkz0r> but i guess the conversation is over already haha
[04:41] <pedro3005> PabloRubianes, aw, the channel was dead..
[04:41] <PabloRubianes> linkz0r: no problem
[04:42] <PabloRubianes> pedro3005: It's ok... I tend to speak in spanish with diego, but it's better for all if we speak the same languaje
[04:42] <PabloRubianes> ;-)
[04:43] <lobinho> we can only speak the same language IF we talk at all lol
[04:44] <pedro3005> hmmm....
[04:44] <PabloRubianes> good one :)
[04:45] <pedro3005> well, what's up, everyone?
[04:46] <linkz0r> i'm refusing to sleep even thought i should be already sleeping since some 2 hours ago :x
[04:46] <linkz0r> maybe it's my time to go, it's really late now
[04:47] <linkz0r> hope to talk to you soon pedro
[04:47] <linkz0r> g'night everyone, i'm off!
[04:47] <lobinho> (00:47 here in Brazil, folks)
[04:47] <lobinho> but nah, that's not thaaat late
[04:47] <lobinho> hey, where'd ya go?! D:
[04:48] <pedro3005> still here
[04:48] <pedro3005> though I _should_ be sleeping as well :P
[04:48] <lobinho> linkz0r? he left o.o
[04:49] <pedro3005> yeah, he did
[04:50] <PabloRubianes> pedro3005: which city are u now?
[04:50] <pedro3005> PabloRubianes, Rio
[04:50] <pedro3005> lobinho, hey, where are you at?
[04:50] <lobinho> Rio too
[04:50] <pedro3005> cool.. which neighborhood?
[04:51] <lobinho> as well as linkz0r, he's a classmate at a programming course
[04:51] <lobinho> Ilha
[04:51] <pedro3005> oh, cool. I'm in Cosme Velho, near Botafogo
[04:53] <lobinho> wow
[04:53] <lobinho> do you know Nikkei, the japanese culture school? it's in Cosme Velho, I practice taiko there
[04:54] <pedro3005> don't know about it... where's it at? Rua Das Laranjeiras?
[04:54] <lobinho> nope, Rua Cosme Velho
[04:54] <lobinho> above the station to Cristo and the end bus stop
[04:55] <pedro3005> oh, I know
[04:55] <pedro3005> pretty close to my house
[04:55] <lobinho> cool
[04:56] <pedro3005> you know the bakery?
[04:56] <lobinho> hmm, I don't think so
[04:56] <lobinho> where is it?
[04:56] <pedro3005> in Rua Cosme Velho.. a little bit before Cristo station
[04:57] <lobinho> near Sion?
[04:57] <pedro3005> yeah, a bit after Sion.. I live in the street between Sion and the bakery
[05:00] <lobinho> found it at Google Maps
[05:00] <pedro3005> just don't rob me :3
[05:00] <lobinho> I'll try not to ;)
[05:02] <pedro3005> hey man, there's going to be a TEDx here
[05:02] <lobinho> a what? ._.
[05:02] <pedro3005> lobinho, look http://www.tedxsudeste.com.br/2010/category/blog/
[05:03] <pedro3005> brb, going to the bathroom
[05:03] <lobinho> take your time
[05:08] <pedro3005> lobinho, back
[05:08] <pedro3005> looked at it? It's a technology event
[05:09] <lobinho> yup, I'm reading it
[05:09] <lobinho> but the presentations are too short ._.
[05:09] <lobinho> 5-15min
[05:10] <pedro3005> is it a free event? I can't find if you have to pay or what
[05:11] <lobinho> from what I read there, they usually have 1000 tickets, and they all are sold out a year before the event date D:
[05:12] <pedro3005> no, that's TED, on california
[05:12] <lobinho> oh
[05:13] <lobinho> http://www.tedxsudeste.com.br/2010/confirmacoes-de-participacao-enviadas/
[05:15] <pedro3005> lobinho, oh well :/
[05:16] <lobinho> sorry, dude
[05:19] <lobinho> sorry, Pidgin crashed
[05:20] <pedro3005> wb :)
[05:26] <lobinho> well, gotta go
[05:26] <lobinho> nice to meet you :)
[05:26] <pedro3005> bye
[05:26] <pedro3005> see you some other time :D
[05:27] <lobinho> may the Force be with you \o
[05:55] <znxtch> I've decided to throw myself to the masses and let the people decide my fate.
[05:56] <znxtch> I have an 8gb IPod touch.   I recently converted to pure Ubuntu.  The IPod touch won't sync with Ubuntu and its jst too damn small.   Today I have the option of buying a bigger IPOD classic and selling off the IPod Touch.  What do the peope say?
[05:58] <pedro3005> If you dislike Touch's size, I guess you should get a different one
[05:58] <ddecator> libimobiledevice0 is on lucid and can communicate with the touch and iphone =) (or it's supposed to at least)
[05:58] <znxtch> wait
[05:58] <znxtch> i just read that a second ago
[05:58] <znxtch> im testing now
[05:59] <znxtch> whoa
[05:59] <znxtch> holy shit
[05:59] <znxtch> sorry!
[05:59] <znxtch> but who!
[05:59] <znxtch> whoa
[05:59] <znxtch> lucid is works fine
[05:59] <ddecator> does it work?
[05:59] <znxtch> out of the box
[05:59] <ddecator> good =)
[05:59] <znxtch> no tweaking
[05:59]  * znxtch will payall ddecator $20 for saving him $150
[05:59] <znxtch> *paypal
[05:59] <znxtch> lol
[06:00] <ddecator> haha, but if it's too small memory-wise for you, then it's your choice
[06:00] <znxtch> Let see if it will sync
[06:00] <znxtch> Got an error trying the first time, "error while getting p-2-p abus connection: The nam :1.310 was not provided y any .service files"
[06:01] <znxtch> darnit!
[06:01] <ddecator> huh...
[06:02] <znxtch> I tried to drag and drop music using Rhythmbox
[06:02] <pedro3005> google that error
[06:03] <znxtch> i did
[06:03] <znxtch> says it cant drag and drop
[06:03] <znxtch> but offers no solution
[06:03] <znxtch> i'll look
[06:05] <javatexan> this is probably a stupid question, but do any of the open source speech recognition programs actually type in an editor, like gedit or such?  I am looking on http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Speech-Recognition-HOWTO/software.html and http://voxforge.org/home
[06:06] <javatexan> i see several for controling gnome, etc...but none seem to just show it speech to text in gedit....am I missing something?
[06:31] <znxtch> Okay "F" this.
[06:31] <znxtch> I'm trading in for a larger IPod classic.
[06:31] <znxtch> Not only can I switch back to listening to higher quality audio.  (I lower bitrate to increase amount of stored music)  I can stay sane and sync it with Ubuntu.
[06:31] <znxtch> Before I go get it...
[06:32] <znxtch> Anyone in here had success syncing an IPod classic with Ubuntu?
[06:32] <znxtch> or do i have to dual boot with os x?
[06:32] <znxtch> because i dont want to dual boot
[06:32] <znxtch> im doing this whole screw the man thing
[06:32] <znxtch> lol
[06:32] <znxtch> but
[06:32] <znxtch> ill still buy his mp3 players
[08:11] <arnaudmuhizi> hi all, I'm failing to have a dynamic IP address assigned to my tap interface
[13:47] <jvbn> Hello there. I have what I think may be a stupid question, but I am in doubt. I have been using the Beta versions of 10.04. When the final version is released, do I need to reinstall
[13:47] <jvbn> or can I just update
[13:48] <zeroseven0183> You can just update
[13:48] <zeroseven0183> But I prefer doing fresh install
[13:48] <jvbn> That is using the Update Maganer?
[13:48] <zeroseven0183> still, you have the choice
[13:48] <jvbn> Ah, OK, I think I also prefer a fresh install
[13:49] <jvbn> Thanks very, very much for your help
[13:49] <zeroseven0183> If you do that, be sure you back up your data first :-)
[13:50] <jvbn> OK, yes, I will remember that. I think I have a little guide somewhere of how to back up everything and then do a fresh install. Will make sure I do that. Thanks a lot for reminding me. Have a good day!!
[13:51] <zeroseven0183> Sure. Same to you!
[13:51] <jvbn> Bye for now!
[14:10] <shahan> I am back
[14:11] <shahan> Installing KDE over GNOME
[14:11] <shahan> :-)
[14:11] <shahan> new experiment
[14:11] <shahan> :-)
[14:11] <shahan> large download
[14:12] <shahan> may take 1 hour to finish
[14:13] <zeroseven0183> Hi shahan. Is it sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[14:13] <shahan> zero...
[14:14] <shahan> zeroseven0183: no
[14:14] <shahan> zeroseven0183: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/config-desktop/C/index.html
[14:14] <shahan> zeroseven0183: its for KDE https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html#other-desktop-kde
[14:15] <shahan> zeroseven0183:  "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" it may also work
[14:15] <zeroseven0183> Yup
[14:15] <shahan> zeroseven0183: you can check
[14:15] <zeroseven0183> You did the GUI version?
[14:16] <zeroseven0183> I have it once
[14:16] <zeroseven0183> But wanted to focus more on GNOME first
[14:16] <zeroseven0183> But I love to have an elegant desktop
[14:18] <shahan> zeroseven0183: yes .. mine procedure is a GUI process
[14:19] <shahan> zeroseven0183: wht is "elegant desktop"?
[14:19] <zeroseven0183> elegant, eyecandy :-)
[14:20] <shahan> zeroseven0183: :-)
[14:20] <shahan> zeroseven0183: what r u using now?
[14:20] <shahan> zeroseven0183: GNOME or KDE?
[14:20] <zeroseven0183> Ubuntu (GNOME)
[14:20] <shahan> zeroseven0183: on which version of UBUNTU?
[14:21] <zeroseven0183> But I have also Lubuntu running as VM
[14:21] <shahan> zeroseven0183: 9.10?
[14:21] <zeroseven0183> 9.10
[14:21] <zeroseven0183> Tomorrow, 10.04
[14:21] <shahan> zeroseven0183: hmm
[14:21] <zeroseven0183> In just a matter of 24 hours or less, I'd be using 10.04
[14:21] <shahan> zeroseven0183:  you will go to 10.04?
[14:22] <shahan> zeroseven0183: hmm
[14:22] <shahan> zeroseven0183: I have a lot of software installed on my ubuntu 9.10
[14:22] <zeroseven0183> I'm still thinking if I will upgrade, but more or less I'll go fresh install.
[14:22] <shahan> zeroseven0183: I am not willing to convert it to 10.04 right now
[14:23] <zeroseven0183> You always have the freedom :-)
[14:23] <shahan> zeroseven0183: right
[14:23] <shahan> zeroseven0183:  but I will download the edition
[14:24] <shahan> zeroseven0183: where r u from?
[14:24] <zeroseven0183> The Philippines
[14:24] <zeroseven0183> How about you?
[14:25] <zeroseven0183> We're actually planning the release party and hold it on May 7.
[14:25] <shahan> zeroseven0183: from BANGALDESH
[14:25] <shahan> zeroseven0183: BANGLADESH
[14:26] <zeroseven0183> I think there are a lot of computer users, programmers, IT enthusiasts that are new to Ubuntu/Linux that will participate
[14:26] <zeroseven0183> I see
[14:26] <shahan> zeroseven0183: what do u do?
[14:26] <zeroseven0183> At work or at home?
[14:26] <shahan> */msg zeroseven0183 home
[14:27] <shahan> */msg zeroseven0183
[14:27] <shahan> zeroseven0183: home
[14:27] <shahan> zeroseven0183: you?
[14:28] <shahan> ..
[14:28] <shahan> :-0)
[14:28] <zeroseven0183> I'm doing a lot of reading --- news, Ubuntu stuffs, answer questions in the forums
[14:35] <zeroseven0183> 10.04 Lucid Lynx is 1 day to go... can't wait
[14:36] <LzrdKing> eh, no big deal
[14:36] <zeroseven0183> Why? You're already using the beta/RC?
[14:37] <LzrdKing> no, karmnic and jaunty
[14:37] <LzrdKing> karmic
[14:37] <zeroseven0183> I'm curious. Why it's no big deal for LzrdKing?
[14:37] <LzrdKing> its just an upgrade
[14:38] <LzrdKing> maybe also because i just did a clean install of karmic; on my one laptop its a jaunty-> karmic upgrade which isn't the same
[14:38] <LzrdKing> so i just got a new os
[14:39] <shahan> its 7:38 Pm there
[14:39] <shahan> how long I have to wait for this for 10.04
[14:39] <shahan> :)
[14:39] <LzrdKing> tomorrow
[14:39] <shahan> LzrdKing: yes....
[14:39] <shahan> LzrdKing: :)
[14:40] <zeroseven0183> sure it's just an upgrade
[14:40] <zeroseven0183> As long as everything you need is working
[14:40] <zeroseven0183> you really don't need to switch
[14:41] <LzrdKing> i mean, i'm going to download and seed lucid, and maybe even install it on my second partition, but eh, its just an OS
[14:41] <LzrdKing> even if its the best os i've seen
[14:42] <zeroseven0183> I respect that. What do you do LzrdKing?
[14:43] <LzrdKing> do?
[14:43] <zeroseven0183> Yeah. What keeps you busy
[14:47] <LzrdKing> oh, i'm a web applicatin administrator
[14:47] <LzrdKing> but we use centos at work
[14:47] <zeroseven0183> I see. CentOS is based on Red Hat, right?
[14:48] <LzrdKing> yes
[14:49] <zeroseven0183> I have to go now
[14:50] <zeroseven0183> I'll see you around next time
[14:50] <LzrdKing> see ya
[15:03] <mslovette> I have an issue with and IDE-SCSI device and an external USB HDD... it appears that on boot, if I dont have teh USB HDD configured in fstab (and powered up), it snatches the /dev assignment and mount for the IDE-SCSI raid unit.... any thoughts?
[15:06] <mslovette> hmm... must be too early... will bbl and ask again... ciao
[16:14] <shahan> back
[16:14] <shahan> need help about installing KDE
[16:14] <shahan> from GNOME to KDE
[16:14] <shahan> emrgency...
[16:14] <shahan> ...
[16:14] <shahan> experienced help needed
[16:14] <shahan> !!!
[16:15] <shahan> any one here
[16:15] <shahan> ?
[16:15]  * phillw doesn't use kde
[16:16] <shahan> phillw: hi
[16:16] <shahan> phillw: can u help me about it?
[16:16] <shahan> phillw: my download of KDE has been finished
[16:17] <phillw> shahan: I cannot, but these guyz can http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdeww9
[16:17] <shahan> phillw: I am using ubuntu 9.10 right now
[16:17] <phillw> shahan: follow that link :-)
[16:17] <shahan> phillw: after download a dialogue box has appear
[16:17]  * phillw has never used kde
[16:18] <shahan> phillw: ok
[16:18] <shahan> phillw: tnx
[16:23] <shahan> installation finished.... of KDE
[16:23] <shahan> let me logout
[16:23] <shahan> will be back if any problem doesnt occours.... :p
[16:36] <shahan> back
[16:36] <shahan> with a disgusting experience
[16:36] <shahan> KDE.... experience
[16:37] <shahan> there my internet doesnt work
[16:37] <shahan> dont know why
[16:37] <shahan> graphics is good
[16:37] <shahan> but..... as it is not familiar with me..... I felt hasitate
[16:38] <starcraftman> shahan: awww, kde ain't so bad, it's the pretty blue cousin of GNOME. Also, they still got button on the right.
[16:38] <shahan> starcraftman: yes.. KDE environment is good
[16:39] <starcraftman> shahan: what was net problem, wireless?
[16:39] <shahan> starcraftman: but It will take a time to suit for me
[16:39] <shahan> starcraftman: yes WIFI
[16:39] <shahan> starcraftman: WiFi
[16:39] <starcraftman> shahan: odd, uses same backend as GNOME network manager you know.
[16:41] <starcraftman> shahan: you tried setting it up via the network plug in lower right tray?
[16:42] <shahan> starcraftman: no
[16:42] <starcraftman> shahan: well there we are :). ITs the white and green plug in corner. Ya right click or left and ya can set up a connection.
[16:42] <shahan> starcraftman: giving u the link
[16:43] <shahan> starcraftman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9143407&postcount=2
[16:44] <shahan> starcraftman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457843
[16:47] <starcraftman> shahan: not sure I follow, your wanting to do that on kubuntu? Should work, just edit same files. no gedit, instead use kate.
[16:49] <shahan> starcraftman: how to do that?
[16:50] <shahan> starcraftman: how to enter on my HDD from KDE?
[16:51] <shahan> starcraftman: I am not getting any drive there
[16:51] <shahan> starcraftman: mine is NTFS
[16:51] <starcraftman> shahan: I'm not sure I follow. You having trouble getting a console prompt? It's konsole on kde.
[16:52] <shahan> hmm
[16:52] <shahan> starcraftman: tnx
[16:52] <shahan> starcraftman: let me go to KDE again
[16:52] <shahan> will be back soon
[16:52] <starcraftman> shahan: np, should be able to work exactly the same.
[17:07] <shahan> starcraftman: I have removed KDE
[17:07] <shahan> starcraftman: it doesnt work
[17:07] <starcraftman> shahan: no ? Ah well, as ya like.
[17:08] <shahan> GNOME is good
[17:08] <shahan> starcraftman: easy to use
[17:08] <starcraftman> kde can be easy too, just gotta know how to use it. To each his own. I like shiny!
[17:10] <shahan> starcraftman: yes... know
[17:10] <shahan> starcraftman: but when I first come in GNOME ... I used it easily
[17:10] <shahan> starcraftman: using the PC
[17:10] <shahan> starcraftman: browsing my drives...
[17:10] <shahan> starcraftman: playing song
[17:14] <Francis> hello
[17:14] <Francis> I'm having problems about my browser... can some1 please help me?
[17:16] <Francis> I'll be back shortly
[17:16] <Francis> :(
[17:16] <Francis> i have to restart computer becuase if I try to open my Firefox? it says: it's not responding or i have to restart
[17:16] <shahan> Francis: :)
[17:16] <Francis> :s
[17:16] <Francis> hello
[17:17] <Francis> shahan: will you please help me? :s
[17:17] <Francis> I'm just gonna have to restart first thought. I'll be back 2 mins
[17:17] <shahan> Francis: whats ur problem
[17:17] <shahan> Francis: ?
[17:17] <Francis> it's about my Internet browser
[17:17] <shahan> Francis: ok
[17:17] <Francis> it always goes 'not responding'
[17:18] <Francis> ill be back shortly
[17:18] <Francis> hold on please, thanks
[17:28] <Francis> shahan: I'm back. I'm sorry about that
[17:28] <shahan> Francis: ok...
[17:28] <shahan> Francis: wats ur problem
[17:28] <Francis> ok it's my firefox
[17:28] <Francis> it always go Not responding everytime
[17:29] <Francis> for example.. If I go to youtube? it will go not responding
[17:29] <Francis> so i have to exit it and open a new tab, ya?
[17:29] <shahan> Francis: is ur internet works?
[17:29] <Francis> but in my case, I couldn't open the internet browser coz it's not responding
[17:30] <Francis> 0ya it's working
[17:31] <shahan> Clear your cache. Edit --> preferences --> Advanced --> Network, Clear Now button.
[17:31] <shahan> Clear your cache. Edit --> preferences --> Advanced --> Network, "Clear Now" button.
[17:32] <Francis> ok hold on pls
[17:33] <shahan> Francis: hope it will work
[17:33] <Francis> i can't see an advanced
[17:33] <Francis> xd
[17:34] <shahan> Clear your cache. Edit --> preferences --> Advanced --> Network, "Clear Now" button.
[17:34] <shahan> have you gone to Clear your cache. Edit --> preferences
[17:34] <shahan> Edit>Preferences
[17:34] <Francis> ok im here in preferences
[17:34] <Francis> and i can't see advanced
[17:34] <Francis> lol
[17:34] <shahan> then upper left side Advanced
[17:34] <Francis> oh in content?
[17:35] <shahan> yes...
[17:35] <shahan> upper right side
[17:35] <shahan> then click on Network Tab
[17:35] <shahan> then "Clear Now"button
[17:36] <Francis> ok i clicked clear now
[17:37] <shahan> Francis: now hope you will go to youtube
[17:37] <shahan> Francis: hope it will work
[17:38] <Francis> ok let's see if it works
[17:38] <Francis> hold on
[17:40] <shahan> Francis: ok...
[17:40] <shahan> Francis: inform me if it works
[17:41] <Francis> i guess its ok now
[17:41] <Francis> thanks for your help :p
[17:41] <Francis> I'm just curious, what's a cache?
[17:43] <Francis> what does it do?
[17:44] <shahan> Francis: welcome
[17:44] <shahan> Francis: cache holds the data of sites....
[17:45] <Francis> oh I see
[17:45] <shahan> Francis: may be there were some files which abstract your firefox to go to youtube
[17:45] <Francis> makese sense
[17:45] <shahan> Francis: where r u frm?
[17:45] <Francis> Canada
[17:45] <Francis> but im not good in english yet
[17:45] <Francis> xd
[17:46] <shahan> Francis: hmm
[17:46] <shahan> Francis: why ? you speak french? :p
[17:46] <Francis> so sorry if u dont understand some of my worlds
[17:46] <Francis> no no lol
[17:46] <shahan> Francis: what is "xd"?
[17:46] <Francis> I'm from the Philippines so I speak a diff. language
[17:46] <Francis> :D
[17:46] <Francis> xd is like XD
[17:46] <Francis> it's nothing
[17:47] <shahan> XD?
[17:47] <shahan> what does it mean?
[17:47] <Francis> nothing
[17:47] <shahan> hmm
[17:47] <Francis> it's an emoticon
[17:47] <Francis> lol
[17:47] <shahan> good
[17:47] <Francis> like this
[17:47] <Francis> :D
[17:47] <shahan> what do u do?
[17:47] <Francis> what do you mean
[17:48] <shahan> student or job?
[17:48] <Francis> student still
[17:48] <shahan> hmm
[17:48] <Francis> hbu? where u from lol
[17:48] <shahan> class/grade or school, college, university?
[17:48] <shahan> i am from BANGLADESH
[17:48] <Francis> oh I see
[17:49] <shahan> do u use TeamViewer?
[17:49] <Francis> I don't
[17:49] <Francis> what's that shahan?
[17:49] <shahan> u can install it...
[17:50] <shahan> its a software which helps to get support remotely...
[17:50] <LzrdKing> whats the pooint of TeamViewer? just use vnc
[17:50] <LzrdKing> and ssh if necessary
[17:51] <Francis> shahan: u mean if my pc has problems, it will automatically get fixed?
[17:51] <shahan> Francis: no...
[17:51] <shahan> Francis: :)
[17:52] <shahan> Francis: if u install it.. then if u permit other, they can access ur pc to do any work remotely
[17:52] <shahan> Francis: understand?
[17:52] <shahan> Francis: you can install it from http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx#downloadAreaLinux\
[17:52] <shahan> Francis: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx#downloadAreaLinux
[17:52] <Francis> is that safe.. lol
[17:52] <LzrdKing> or you can just install vnc from the repos
[17:52] <Francis> that they can go to my system >.<
[17:53] <shahan> Francis: there are a lot of softwares...
[17:53] <shahan> Francis: I like TeamViewer
[17:53] <shahan> Francis: :)
[17:53] <shahan> Francis: so... where do u study?
[17:53] <Francis> so they would know what Im doing if I install that?
[17:53] <Francis> why so curious :P
[17:53] <hobgoblin> shahan - is that not a paid app?
[17:53] <shahan> Francis: school, college, university?
[17:54] <Francis> hobgoblin: RS? lol
[17:54] <shahan> hobgoblin: no.. its free
[17:54] <shahan> hobgoblin: it has Linux, Windows, Mac version
[17:54] <shahan> hobgoblin: also for the "iPhone"
[17:55] <hobgoblin> I can see that - I can also see the prices
[17:55] <LzrdKing> Francis: i'm assuming there would be some sort of access control
[17:55] <shahan> hobgoblin: it has professional version
[17:55] <shahan> hobgoblin: it will require money
[17:55] <Francis> -confused- I dont know much about Linux >.<
[17:56] <shahan> hobgoblin: but free editon can fullfill my necessity
[17:56] <shahan> Francis: no body will get access... it u dont permit
[17:56] <shahan> Francis: you can take a look http://www.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb
[17:56] <Francis> okay
[17:57] <Francis> hold on pls ;)
[17:57] <Francis> oh i have to download
[17:57] <Francis> :o
[17:57] <shahan> Francis: yes...
[17:57] <shahan> Francis: its about 18 MB
[17:57] <Francis> ok im so confused about this thing
[17:57] <Francis> so they can access my files too?
[17:57] <shahan> Francis: why? whats the problem?
[17:58] <hobgoblin> Francis: I should take a look here before you start giving people access yo your machine - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[17:59] <shahan> any one can download the software from http://www.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb
[17:59] <shahan> and absolutely you will give the permission to others if u belive him
[18:00] <Francis2> my pidgin went not responding
[18:00] <Francis2> god
[18:00] <shahan> otherwise not
[18:00] <shahan> going to take supper
[18:00] <shahan> 10 mins
[18:00] <shahan> will be back soon
[18:00] <shahan> :)
[18:00] <Francis2> so shahan, you think this is safe?
[18:00] <Francis2> shahan:  ok i'll wait for you ;)
[18:00] <Francis2> eat well
[18:01] <shahan> Francis2: there is nothing to be unsafe
[18:01] <shahan> Francis2: I am using it for about 6 month
[18:01] <shahan> Francis2: I got no security problem with it
[18:01] <Francis2> okay
[18:02] <Francis2> what specific things does it do?
[18:02] <shahan> so.... what class do u read?
[18:02] <Francis2> what class do I read? what do you mean
[18:02] <shahan> Francis2: hahah
[18:02] <Francis2> shahan: lol
[18:02] <shahan> Francis2: college, or university?
[18:02] <Francis2> oh well let me explain
[18:03] <shahan> Francis2: ok.. explain
[18:03] <Francis2> I'm suppose to be 2nd year college if Im in the philippines ok
[18:03] <shahan> that is u are in 14 years education life
[18:03] <Francis2> why so curious btw :D
[18:03] <shahan> Francis2: right?
[18:04] <LzrdKing> Francis2: its logmein or gotomypc for linux, but there are built-in ways to do this
[18:05] <Francis2> LzrdKing: u think it's safe?
[18:05] <LzrdKing> only if you have a need for it
[18:05] <LzrdKing> it probably installs vnc with a wrapper around it anyway
[18:06] <Francis2> what does it do?
[18:06] <Francis2> like clear viruses or
[18:07] <hobgoblin> give people access to your computer = hence the link to the security post
[18:07] <LzrdKing> Francis2: its logmein or gotomypc for linux
[18:08] <LzrdKing> this is not a linux issue, its a computer issue
[18:44] <shahan> ....
[18:49] <starcraftman> shahan: trouble?
[18:50] <shahan> starcraftman: yah
[18:50] <shahan> starcraftman: I installed KDE on my UBUNTU 9.10 few hours ago to take a taste of KDE(I dont use it before)
[18:51] <shahan> then after few minutes ago I removed it by sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:51] <shahan> but its didnt remove
[18:52] <starcraftman> shahan: how so?
[18:52] <shahan> starcraftman: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:53] <starcraftman> shahan: I meant in what way din't it remove? The package wouldn't uninstall?
[18:55] <shahan> starcraftman: now when I run PC the KUBUNTU logo appears.... alll of the KDE software now installed on my PC... disgusting
[18:55] <starcraftman> shahan: well removing kubuntu desktop should work, you weren't logged into kde were ya?
[18:55] <shahan> starcraftman: how can I remove it completely?
[18:56] <shahan> starcraftman: now I am in GNOME
[18:56] <LzrdKing> exit X and do it from the cli
[18:57] <starcraftman> Aye, something must be preventing ya, maybe ya switched to kdm manager.
[18:57] <ibuclaw> shahan,  kubuntu-desktop is the meta-package that installs all kubuntu packages
[18:58] <ibuclaw> uninstalling it only removes the metapackage, not the software it depends on
[18:59] <ibuclaw> I think psychocats still has the answer for you...
[18:59] <ibuclaw> shahan, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[18:59] <shahan> ibuclaw: tnx
[19:00] <ibuclaw> no probs :)
[19:01] <starcraftman> ah hey ibuclaw, wanna poke in dev and see lil thing I talked with paultag about.
[19:01] <starcraftman> if you aren't too busy, also. D'oh, I forgot that ><.
[19:01] <ibuclaw> starcraftman, maybe I am too busy...
[19:03] <starcraftman> ibuclaw: no worries, later then, kinda obscure gcc thing.
[19:04] <shahan> ibuclaw: I installed it from https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/config-desktop/C/index.html
[19:06] <shahan> not working http://paste.ubuntu.com/424129/
[19:06] <shahan> ibuclaw: not working http://paste.ubuntu.com/424129/
[19:07] <shahan> it says E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[19:09] <shahan> going to sleep
[19:09] <shahan> will be back tomorrow
[19:11] <ibuclaw> shahan, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:11] <ibuclaw> shahan, then try it again. ;)
[19:11] <starcraftman> shahan: or simply remove kubuntu-desktop from the uninstall line.
[19:11] <ibuclaw> apt-get is rather pedantic if you specify a package that isn't installed
[19:11] <ibuclaw> starcraftman, or instead use aptitude rather than apt-get ;)
[19:12] <shahan> ibuclaw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424136/
[19:13] <ibuclaw> oh really now...
[19:13] <shahan> ibuclaw: yes
[19:14] <ibuclaw> shahan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/424138/
[19:17] <shahan> ibuclaw: will it remove my VLC?
[19:18] <shahan> ibuclaw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424142/
[19:18] <shahan> ibuclaw: its removing...
[19:19] <shahan> ibuclaw: I am afraid..... will it remove my VLC or oher important
[19:19] <ibuclaw> shahan, you'll have to reinstall those packages, no biggie
[19:19] <shahan> ibuclaw: ohhhh
[19:19] <shahan> ibuclaw: shit
[19:19] <ibuclaw> shahan, I said no biggie ;)
[19:20] <shahan> ibuclaw: why didnt u tell me before
[19:20] <ibuclaw> all packages affected are named in that pastebin.
[19:20] <shahan> ibuclaw: ohhhh
[19:20] <shahan> ibuclaw: however.... is there any .deb file of VLC?
[19:21] <ibuclaw> shahan, just say once it is done
[19:21] <shahan> ibuclaw: it finished
[19:21] <ibuclaw> sudo apt-get install gnomebaker gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad libofa0 mysql-server-5.1 skype vlc vlc-nox wine
[19:21] <shahan> ibuclaw: will it download them from internet?
[19:22] <ibuclaw> shahan, yes, would that be a problem ?
[19:22] <shahan> ibuclaw: my speed is so slow!!!
[19:22] <ibuclaw> shahan, well be thankful that packages are compressed well then =)
[19:23] <shahan> ibuclaw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424144/
[19:24] <ibuclaw> ah, ok - done an upgrade recently shahan ?
[19:24] <shahan> ibuclaw: yes
[19:24] <shahan> about 1 hour ago
[19:25] <ibuclaw> that explain it =)
[19:25] <shahan> what to do now?
[19:25] <shahan> ibuclaw: ?
[19:25] <ibuclaw> shahan, just omit the gstreamer package from the install list
[19:25] <ibuclaw> sudo apt-get install gnomebaker libofa0 mysql-server-5.1 skype vlc vlc-nox wine
[19:26] <ibuclaw> shahan, actually... chances am you only want skype, vlc + wine
[19:26] <ibuclaw> (unless you use mysql-server)
[19:26] <ibuclaw> shahan:  sudo apt-get install skype vlc wine
[19:27] <shahan> ibuclaw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424149/
[19:27] <ibuclaw> shahan:  sudo apt-get install skype vlc wine # :)
[19:27] <shahan> from line 3
[19:28] <shahan> ibuclaw: nothing is working http://paste.ubuntu.com/424150/
[19:28] <shahan> ibuclaw: :(
[19:29] <shahan> ibuclaw: what can I do now?
[19:30] <ibuclaw> lol
[19:30] <shahan> ibuclaw: you lauging?
[19:30] <shahan> ibuclaw: laughing?
[19:31] <ibuclaw> omit skype, if you use that - will have to download it again.
[19:36] <shahan> ibuclaw: however...
[19:37] <shahan> I will download ubuntu 10.04 tomorrow
[19:37] <shahan> ibuclaw: forget it...
[19:37] <shahan> ibuclaw: :) waitting for a new ubuntu LTS edition
[19:37] <shahan> ibuclaw: going to sleep
[19:37] <shahan> ibuclaw: GOOD NIGHT
[19:37] <ibuclaw> shahan, heh, night.
[21:02] <LzrdKing> when will the lucid iso be available?
[21:06] <swoody> LzrdKing: should be out tomorrow, join #ubuntu-release-party to stay up to date :)
[21:06] <LzrdKing> yeah i'm there
[21:06] <LzrdKing> i just want to seed it on BT
[21:06] <swoody> gotcha :)
[22:53] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[23:26] <swoody> heya paultag :)
[23:39] <canozan_> can anyone help me recover my partitions which exist but seem as unallocated with gparted?
[23:40] <lobinho> have you tried a LiveCD? not sure if it would work
[23:42] <canozan_> i can boot in ubuntu, but i have problems booting in windows 7, which was installed in the partition which has been changed by size
[23:43] <swoody> canozan_: so you are trying to access your Win7 partition from an installed version of Ubuntu?
[23:43] <lobinho> but can you see Windows's address in Grub?
[23:44] <phillw> canozan_: how did you resize your win partition ?
 no, i can access to my win7 partition, but when i try to boot into win7, it just reboots everytime
[23:45] <swoody> canozan_: do you get any errors? Does it show any part of the Windows boot screen, or just reboots straight from Grub?
 i did it by accident, i just run partition magic, it gave me an error, i said fix it, and booom, windows is down
 it shows me "windows starting" screen, and then freezes and reboots
[23:46] <lobinho> canozan_: with a LiveCD (anyone knows if the partition managers exists in Ubuntu without it?), can you see the partitions with all their details? I mean the colored bars and stuff
[23:47] <swoody> canozan_: this sounds like it may be an issue with Windows boot.ini file. You should be able to find this in your C: directory. Make sure the boot # listed there is correct, and if that doesn't help at all, try repairing the boot files from the Win7 disc
 i can see them from ubuntu, mount them, but not all of them. with gparted, all my entire disk seems to be unallocated, but when i use the terminal, i see the partitions
[23:48] <lobinho> wow, that's weird o.o'
[23:48] <phillw> canozan_: you can always put the win MBR back on, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[23:48] <canozan_> partition magic changed the starting and ending values of some paritions
[23:48] <swoody> canozan_: I would also make sure you have ntfsprogs and ntfs-3g installed in Ubuntu, these are tools that will allow Ubuntu to see and mount NTFS (Windows) partitions
[23:48] <Vantrax> means your MBR is likely corrupted/partition table
[23:49] <canozan_> and now my 196GB win7 partition is just 33GB and i think windows cannot reach to some system files in order to boot
[23:49] <phillw> that should quiten down win, but if you have vista or win7 and you have inadvertantly moved the block boundaries, you could be in real trouble.
[23:49] <canozan_> so i think i have to change these values manually
[23:50] <lobinho> but how? do you have a backup of Grub?
[23:51] <canozan_> i dont think so
[23:51] <canozan_> i tried to see my terminal output history, but it wasn't saved
[23:51] <canozan_> i have a conflict between two partitions, one ends apter the other one starts
[23:52] <phillw> canozan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions  has some information on what happens if the round to cylinders occurs, it's part way down the page
[23:52] <phillw> If you use GParted Partition Editor in the Ubuntu Live CD be careful. You should remember to remove the check mark in the 'round to cylinders' checkbox , 
[23:52] <lobinho> have you considered formatting the Windows partition? I don't mean that's the solution, but it's all I got... sorry
 i consider this as the last opprtunutiy, but thanks anyway
[23:53] <phillw> canozan_:  it gets all mixed up and disjointed. Sometimes it can fix itself automatically but other times it requires repairs from the Windows Installation Disc
[23:53] <phillw> canozan_: in the 1st instance, i'd put the win MBR back on as per  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
 windows could not repair itself from the installation disk
[23:54] <phillw> canozan_: can you access the partition via ubuntu ?
[23:54] <latenite> how do I search for a word in evolution email inbox? I am lookng for an email that has "word" in its body
 yes, i can acess it but it used to be 196 GB, and now is 33GB, so i'm not sure if i can access to all data
[23:58] <phillw> canozan_: depends on how much data you had on there, win takes a fair bit for the operating system.
 i had something like 30GB, but when all of these happened, i was defragmanting my partition