| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, robert_ancell Eastern Edition? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| TheMuso | Sure. | 00:00 |
| TheMuso | RAOF should be around, but is not. | 00:00 |
| rickspencer3 | probably connectivity issues | 00:00 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3, sure | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | ;) | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | so the meeting is short | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | 1. do ISO testing | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | 2. get SRUs ready | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | for #2 you should be working closely with pitti | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | 3. register your attendance for UDS | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | 4. your blueprints should be registered | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | start working on summaries | 00:01 |
| * TheMuso has done 3 and 4. | 00:01 | |
| rickspencer3 | we'll get them registered next week | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks TheMuso | 00:02 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, robert_ancell how is the release looking to you guys? | 00:02 |
| rickspencer3 | anything make you think we may need a respin or such? | 00:02 |
| TheMuso | Fine from an audio standpoint. | 00:02 |
| robert_ancell | seems stable to me now | 00:02 |
| rickspencer3 | nice | 00:02 |
| rickspencer3 | hey robert_ancell, can I ask you a totally unrelated question? | 00:03 |
| robert_ancell | yes | 00:03 |
| rickspencer3 | if I wanted to get a list in Python of attached video devices ... | 00:03 |
| rickspencer3 | like "/dev/video0" - "/dev/video64" | 00:04 |
| rickspencer3 | how might I go about that? | 00:04 |
| robert_ancell | does the api you used for the webcam not do that? | 00:04 |
| robert_ancell | short answer: I don't know of a v4l api in Python | 00:04 |
| rickspencer3 | ah | 00:04 |
| rickspencer3 | pygame has their own c class | 00:04 |
| rickspencer3 | which basically loops through all the possible names and sees if there is something there | 00:04 |
| robert_ancell | quick and dirty :) | 00:05 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll poke at v4l and v4l2 | 00:05 |
| rickspencer3 | right, I don't mind if the library I use does that, I just don't want to do it myself ;) | 00:05 |
| rickspencer3 | hmm | 00:06 |
| RAOF | Good morning all, *again* | 00:06 |
| TheMuso | Hey RAOF. | 00:06 |
| RAOF | I wasn't expecting to start the day with a little impromptu network debugging. | 00:06 |
| TheMuso | heh we thought that might have been the issue. | 00:07 |
| RAOF | Sorry about that. | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | hi RAOF | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | here's the meeting again | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | 1. do ISO testing | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | 2. get SRUs ready | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | for #2 you should be working closely with pitti | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | 3. register your attendance for UDS | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | 4. your blueprints should be registered | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | start working on summaries | 00:07 |
| RAOF | Ok. And by “summaries” here, we mean the wiki page associated to the blueprint, right? | 00:08 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, no | 00:08 |
| rickspencer3 | those are "specs" | 00:08 |
| rickspencer3 | hold on | 00:08 |
| rickspencer3 | let me get you guys a tad more | 00:08 |
| rickspencer3 | here's all of our accepted blueprints so far: | 00:09 |
| rickspencer3 | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-m?searchtext=desktop-maverick | 00:09 |
| rickspencer3 | go to one, and click on "change details" | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | there is a summary section | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | put in everything there that you think is needed for a good discussion | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | if you don't see one on the list, let me know and we'll fix that | 00:10 |
| RAOF | Ok. | 00:12 |
| RAOF | And that's all the meeting? :) | 00:13 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, yes | 00:14 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, if you are unsure of what to be working on ... | 00:14 |
| rickspencer3 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO | 00:14 |
| rickspencer3 | test test test | 00:15 |
| RAOF | :) | 00:15 |
| jcastro | is anyone aware of any grave bugs for audio CD burning on lucid? | 00:24 |
| TheMuso | No | 00:25 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, what's the bug #? | 00:25 |
| jcastro | I don't know, but I just spent an hour trying to burn a CD on my fiancee's computer | 00:25 |
| rickspencer3 | can you tell me what you tried so I can try to repro it? | 00:25 |
| jcastro | and it goes through the process, but ejects the CD, says there was an error, but the log from brasero doesn't explain much | 00:25 |
| jcastro | yeah, make an audio project | 00:26 |
| rickspencer3 | ok | 00:26 |
| jcastro | add an mp3, and then burn to CD. It then transcodes it, then makes some file in /tmp that it tries to burn to CD | 00:26 |
| jcastro | let me get the log | 00:26 |
| Nafai | jcastro: does it work if you burn to .iso? | 00:26 |
| Nafai | that might narrow it down if it is "interact with hardware issue" or not | 00:27 |
| rickspencer3 | just 1 mp3? | 00:27 |
| TheMuso | Audio CDs cannot be made into an iso | 00:27 |
| Nafai | oh doh | 00:27 |
| Nafai | :) | 00:27 |
| TheMuso | You can make them into cd files with a .toc file via cdrdao, but thats all. | 00:27 |
| jcastro | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/423633/ | 00:27 |
| jcastro | is all the log says | 00:27 |
| jcastro | rickspencer3, yes, just one mp3 | 00:27 |
| rickspencer3 | just click "burn"? | 00:28 |
| jcastro | yep | 00:28 |
| rickspencer3 | it's creating an image ? | 00:28 |
| Nafai | I don't have a burner in this laptop or I would try it out too | 00:28 |
| jcastro | yep | 00:28 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, I must have done it wrong | 00:28 |
| rickspencer3 | uh | 00:30 |
| rickspencer3 | it really didn't seem to work for me | 00:30 |
| jcastro | also, I found out that if you don't have the right gstreamer plugins installed it gives you an ugly error | 00:30 |
| jcastro | similar to this: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+question/96269 | 00:30 |
| jcastro | but that's a seperate problem | 00:31 |
| jcastro | rickspencer3, burning didn't work for you or reproducing the problem didn't work for you? | 00:31 |
| TheMuso | Hrm what tool does it use to create the audio CD? The only program that can create an audio cd image is cdrdao. | 00:31 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, I think I didn't create an audio project | 00:32 |
| rickspencer3 | it transcoded, now says "Burning Audio CD" and "starting to record" | 00:32 |
| Nafai | TheMuso: It looks like "wodim" creates audio projects | 00:32 |
| TheMuso | Nafai: Right, still can't do audio cd images though. | 00:32 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, is this what happened to you? | 00:32 |
| jcastro | rickspencer3, right, for me after that it just ejected and gave me an error | 00:32 |
| jcastro | and then there's a button to export the log | 00:32 |
| rickspencer3 | it says writing track 1 | 00:33 |
| Nafai | TheMuso: Ah, images | 00:33 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, did you get this far? | 00:33 |
| jcastro | yeah | 00:33 |
| jcastro | is it actually burning yet? Like the light on in the drive? | 00:34 |
| rickspencer3 | sounds like it | 00:34 |
| jcastro | I never got to that point, it transcoded, wrote to a file, and then ejected. | 00:34 |
| rickspencer3 | Finalizing | 00:34 |
| jcastro | it's like it tried but gave up, and the next time I put the CD in it thinks X amount of minutes are taken up | 00:35 |
| jcastro | so it's like, allocating the space or something but nothing gets burned on there | 00:35 |
| rickspencer3 | it says it was succesful | 00:35 |
| Nafai | TheMuso: It looks like cdrdao is a suggests for brasero | 00:36 |
| TheMuso | Nafai: ah ok | 00:36 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, worked for me | 00:36 |
| TheMuso | Nafai: its probably a generic string that is displayed regardless of media type | 00:36 |
| * rickspencer3 rocks out to mow. | 00:36 | |
| jcastro | sigh | 00:36 |
| Nafai | TheMuso: Probably | 00:36 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, could you please log a bug asap? | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | let's have pitti take a look tomorrow | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | could you assign to canonical-desktop-team | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | and make it High? | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | actually, the band is "moe." | 00:39 |
| rickspencer3 | for the record | 00:39 |
| jcastro | rickspencer3, dinner and then I'll investigate further | 00:45 |
| rickspencer3 | thx jcastro | 00:45 |
| jcastro | rickspencer3, aha! I screencasted it. Just need to wait for the atom cpu on it to encode. | 00:57 |
| jcastro | My solution to every problem now is to recordmydesktop! | 00:57 |
| TheMuso | lol | 00:59 |
| RAOF | We could do with more of those for X bugs! | 01:00 |
| jcastro | RAOF, but if X doesn't work how do I record? | 01:05 |
| jcastro | flipcam time in that case I suppose | 01:05 |
| RAOF | jcastro: It wouldn't be for “X doesn't work” bugs; it'd be for “$THING doesn't look right” bugs. Graphical corruption and the like. | 01:05 |
| jcastro | ah | 01:05 |
| RAOF | “X doesn't work” *generally* has reasonable logs. | 01:06 |
| bryceh | RAOF, yeah if the bug reporter thinks to include them ;-) | 01:41 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, any chance you can take a crack at jcastro's bug? | 01:53 |
| rickspencer3 | the cd burning one? | 01:53 |
| RAOF | The only CD burner I have available is on the Mac next to me, which is still running OS X. | 01:53 |
| RAOF | Hm. On the other hand, ISO testing, and I *did* say that I'd install Ubuntu for Sam… | 01:54 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 02:09 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, are you about to sacrifice the happiness of your marriage to test jcastro's bug? | 02:09 |
| RAOF | She *has* been asking me to install Ubuntu, and it's the RC of an LTS release… what could *possibly* go wrong? :) | 02:11 |
| TheMuso | lol | 02:11 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 02:12 |
| rickspencer3 | this sounds like some bad news | 02:12 |
| rickspencer3 | oops | 02:12 |
| rickspencer3 | gotsa split for a while | 02:12 |
| rickspencer3 | bbl | 02:12 |
| * RAOF wonders whether high usb activity will bring down his wireless again. | 03:19 | |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Either that sounds like drivers that get affected by CPU usage, or you are using USB wireless. :p | 03:22 |
| RAOF | iwlwifi seems to be high CPU usage affected. | 03:23 |
| RAOF | Actually, the music dropped out for a while, too, so maybe it was interrupts being delayed. | 03:24 |
| RAOF | Or maybe it was a perfect storm of memory pressure, cpu usage, and interrupts :) | 03:24 |
| TheMuso | heh | 03:37 |
| RAOF | The osx partition editor is surprisingly bad at telling you what's happening :( | 04:52 |
| Keybuk | it's OS X | 04:54 |
| Keybuk | OS X has PerilSensitiveKit between the system and the user | 04:55 |
| RAOF | It normally seems a bit better at telling you what's happening than “modifying partition map” with an unprogress-throbber for 30 minutes. | 04:56 |
| RAOF | Operation: test burning audio cd may have to wait. | 04:56 |
| TheMuso | I would be happier if Disk Utility in OSX allowed one to see the EFI partition, even with enabling an advanced mode. A partition editor not showing partitions that are on the disk is bad IMO. | 05:01 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:53 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: still there? | 05:54 |
| rickspencer3 | hi pitti | 05:58 |
| rickspencer3 | getting ready for bed | 05:58 |
| rickspencer3 | 'sup? | 05:58 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: oh, I read scrollback and you had a question how to figure out video devices in Python | 05:59 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, yeah! | 05:59 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: but I guess it's not that urgent :) | 05:59 |
| rickspencer3 | I looked at udevadm | 05:59 |
| rickspencer3 | but it kicked my ass | 05:59 |
| rickspencer3 | I want to enumerate the video cameras/web cams connected to a computer | 06:00 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, thoughts? | 06:00 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: two approaches | 06:00 |
| pitti | 1) rely on sane udev rules | 06:00 |
| pitti | then you can just enumerate /dev/v4l/by-id/* | 06:01 |
| pitti | 2) use python-gudev | 06:01 |
| rickspencer3 | I saw that in the in /dev/v4l | 06:01 |
| pitti | then you can enumerate all devices and check for the "video" subsystem | 06:01 |
| rickspencer3 | hmm | 06:02 |
| rickspencer3 | python-gudev sounds promising | 06:02 |
| pitti | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/gudev/GUdevClient.html#g-udev-client-query-by-subsystem | 06:02 |
| rickspencer3 | sweet! | 06:02 |
| pitti | that's the C API (but the Python API matches that 1:1) | 06:02 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: please note that python-gudev is still fairly new | 06:02 |
| pitti | i. e. it might not exist on other distros at all, and Ubuntu only has it since lucid | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, for #1, are you suggesting I basically ls /dev/v4l/by-id | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | <pitti> i. e. it might not exist on other distros at all, and Ubuntu only has it since lucid | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | not a problem, I'm making a quidget, so it can just depend on that | 06:03 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: #1> yes (but with listdir()) | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | right, I meant in a python way | 06:04 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: the nice thing about python-gudev is that you get trivial hotplug support | 06:04 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, you mean l can connect to an event? | 06:04 |
| rickspencer3 | get notified when a new device is added? | 06:04 |
| pitti | right, or removed | 06:05 |
| pitti | client.connect("uevent", on_uevent) | 06:05 |
| pitti | def on_uevent(client, action, device): | 06:05 |
| pitti | device -> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/gudev/GUdevDevice.html object | 06:06 |
| rickspencer3 | oh nice | 06:06 |
| pitti | i. e. device.get_devtype(), device.get_device_file(), etc. | 06:06 |
| rickspencer3 | so the quidget can do set_state_gst.NULL) or whatever if something gets pulled out | 06:06 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: and for coldplug you use client.query_by_subsystem("video") | 06:06 |
| rickspencer3 | very nice | 06:06 |
| rickspencer3 | I presume it has nicely formatted vendor and device descriptor strings? | 06:07 |
| pitti | gudev itself is already great, and with the python wrapping it's a piece of cake | 06:07 |
| rickspencer3 | nice | 06:07 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: depends on the hardware, of course :) | 06:07 |
| rickspencer3 | right, of course | 06:07 |
| rickspencer3 | I was thinking of adding something like | 06:07 |
| pitti | device.get_sysfs_attr('idProduct') | 06:08 |
| rickspencer3 | quickly.hardware["video"] | 06:08 |
| rickspencer3 | which makes a list of video devices | 06:08 |
| rickspencer3 | etc... | 06:08 |
| rickspencer3 | quickly.hardware["microphones"] | 06:08 |
| rickspencer3 | seems either not necessary, or easy to create with pygudev | 06:08 |
| * pitti suggests to index by subsystem | 06:08 | |
| pitti | but that's a static array again and you lose hotplug | 06:09 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, right | 06:09 |
| rickspencer3 | well, it just be convenience, and maybe not necessary | 06:09 |
| rickspencer3 | if pugdev is all one-liners anyway, then there is nothing to gain by adding on abstraction | 06:10 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: you might add a wrapper which hides the python-gudev API, of course | 06:10 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks pitti, this is perfect! | 06:10 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, right | 06:10 |
| rickspencer3 | accept I don't like to replace one-liners with other one-liners | 06:10 |
| rickspencer3 | if it's not significantly easier, why bother? | 06:11 |
| pitti | like an existing_hw_array = quickly.hardware(['usb', 'video'], hotplug_handler) | 06:11 |
| rickspencer3 | right | 06:11 |
| pitti | but it's not that much easier, yes | 06:11 |
| pitti | and in the hotplug_handler you need to deal with the GUdevDevice object again anyway | 06:11 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, up a bit early? | 06:12 |
| rickspencer3 | did you see jcastro was having some trouble burning an audio CD | 06:12 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: I got up at 6:30 all week already :) | 06:12 |
| rickspencer3 | I thought you want to take a look | 06:12 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: my wife gets up at 6 and goes to bed at 22:30, so I do, too | 06:12 |
| rickspencer3 | ah | 06:12 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: yeah, I saw that we earned a brasero bug | 06:12 |
| rickspencer3 | I am on your wife's schedule | 06:13 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, well, I had him assign to the desktop team ;) | 06:13 |
| * pitti was going to wave the "unsupported!" flag until I saw that it was coming from you | 06:13 | |
| rickspencer3 | braesero is unsupported? | 06:13 |
| rickspencer3 | or burning mp3 is? | 06:13 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: it's universe | 06:13 |
| rickspencer3 | oh? | 06:13 |
| pitti | and we know it has deficiencies | 06:13 |
| rickspencer3 | I thought it was installed by default | 06:13 |
| rickspencer3 | silly me | 06:13 |
| pitti | rhythmbox! rhythmbox! rhythmbox! | 06:13 |
| jcastro | pool/main/b/brasero/brasero_2.30.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 06:14 |
| rickspencer3 | in any case, I thought you would want to rule out something to do with the CDs themselves | 06:14 |
| pitti | jcastro: oh, ugh; who let that in.. | 06:14 |
| rickspencer3 | oops | 06:14 |
| jcastro | heh | 06:14 |
| rickspencer3 | a bit too late for a demotion I suppose ;) | 06:14 |
| pitti | ok, then the truth is in the middle | 06:14 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, did you try RB? | 06:14 |
| pitti | supported, but not our default | 06:14 |
| RAOF | We'd want at least one image burner in main, right? | 06:14 |
| pitti | argh, sorry guys, I'm totally confused | 06:15 |
| pitti | brasero != banshee | 06:15 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 06:15 |
| RAOF | Hah! | 06:15 |
| rickspencer3 | yes indeed | 06:15 |
| jcastro | I knew someone was going to do that! | 06:15 |
| rickspencer3 | that does resolve to False | 06:15 |
| pitti | sorry jcastro :) | 06:15 |
| jcastro | pitti, banshee just calls brasero, but I tested it standalone as well | 06:15 |
| jcastro | pitti, it's ok, I am used to the banshee persecution | 06:15 |
| rickspencer3 | jcastro, did you try RB? | 06:15 |
| jcastro | I will try it now | 06:16 |
| Nafai | I know I'm up too late when the European brigade is already up | 06:17 |
| rickspencer3 | Nafai, seriously | 06:18 |
| rickspencer3 | though pitti may be as productive, he is not quite a brigade | 06:18 |
| Nafai | heh :) | 06:18 |
| kenvandine | hey guys | 06:18 |
| rickspencer3 | hey kenvandine | 06:18 |
| rickspencer3 | we're all up a bit late :P | 06:18 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti was tutoring me in some sweet Python APIs | 06:19 |
| rickspencer3 | quickly.widgets.WebCamBox ftw | 06:19 |
| kenvandine | cool | 06:19 |
| kenvandine | nice | 06:19 |
| rickspencer3 | next will be quickly.widgets.MediaPlayer | 06:19 |
| * kenvandine has been cleaning up bug reports and dupes... | 06:19 | |
| * rickspencer3 is learning gstreamer | 06:19 | |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, yeah, I saw | 06:19 |
| Nafai | rickspencer3: nice APIs? | 06:19 |
| RAOF | I like gstreamer. | 06:20 |
| rickspencer3 | Nafai, yeah, I was struggling to find a reliable method of getting an enumeration of attached devices | 06:20 |
| rickspencer3 | Google was not yielding the goods | 06:20 |
| rickspencer3 | but pitti helped me out | 06:20 |
| Nafai | cool | 06:20 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, gstreamer, I think I am going to like it | 06:20 |
| rickspencer3 | but I had composing strings in a program | 06:20 |
| rickspencer3 | it reminds me of the bad old days of writing SQL strings | 06:21 |
| * rickspencer3 shudders | 06:21 | |
| Nafai | scary! | 06:21 |
| rickspencer3 | how sad is it that we don't have a media player widget? | 06:22 |
| rickspencer3 | I mean, c'mon! | 06:22 |
| rickspencer3 | Nafai, we'll fix this in Maverick! | 06:22 |
| Nafai | indeed! | 06:22 |
| RAOF | I think you'll find it surprisingly easy to write a media player wigdet. | 06:23 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, seems that way yes | 06:23 |
| rickspencer3 | there appears to be some default "play this video" and "play this audio" functionality | 06:23 |
| rickspencer3 | I think the bugs will be in the logic of the control buttons ;) | 06:24 |
| jcastro | ok so rb doesn't work either | 06:24 |
| jcastro | right clicking and selecting "burn to cd" doesn't do anything | 06:24 |
| jcastro | I think it's supposed to invoke brasero right? | 06:24 |
| jcastro | I've checked that the plugin is installed | 06:24 |
| rickspencer3 | dunno | 06:25 |
| jcastro | the package is installed but I don't see it in the plugins dialog in rb | 06:25 |
| rickspencer3 | I presume pitti is looking at it | 06:25 |
| rickspencer3 | I've got to go to sleep | 06:25 |
| rickspencer3 | g'night all | 06:25 |
| Nafai | night | 06:26 |
| jcastro | pitti, ok going to bed, I'll check the bug in ~7 hours when I am back in case it's real. With my luck it's probably the whole username=jcastro conspiracy of unix. | 06:31 |
| pitti | heh | 06:31 |
| pitti | jcastro: I'll have a look at it | 06:31 |
| kenvandine | good night all | 06:32 |
| Nafai | hrm, there might be conflicting UDS sessions I want to attend :) | 06:35 |
| TheMuso | Nafai: Very hard to avoid unfortunately. | 06:35 |
| Nafai | yeah, that's what it looks like | 06:35 |
| baptistemm | hello | 07:24 |
| pitti | hey Nafai | 07:26 |
| pitti | bonjour baptistemm | 07:26 |
| baptistemm | bonjour pitti | 07:27 |
| * pitti is off for about an hour for some running and breakfast | 07:27 | |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:12 |
| RAOF | Man, Lucid rocks on a MacBook 4,1 system. | 08:17 |
| RAOF | Even the broadcom wireless works once you enable the driver - no network required! | 08:19 |
| lifeless | RAOF: so, next up poulsbo? | 08:20 |
| RAOF | Yeah. Definitely. :/ | 08:20 |
| RAOF | More interestingly, there's a good chance that the h264 decoding hardware on my thinkpad (and, I believe, your thinkpad) will be working in Maverick. | 08:21 |
| kklimonda | what thinkpads have h264 decoding hardware? what is it? nvidia gpu? ;) | 08:22 |
| lifeless | awesome | 08:22 |
| RAOF | kklimonda: Got a 4th gen intel card? You've got h264 decoding hardware. | 08:22 |
| kklimonda | no, I have nvidia - the "lucky" g84 or g86 chipsed ;) | 08:23 |
| kklimonda | chipset even | 08:23 |
| RAOF | Oh - are those the ones which reliably died mere months out of warranty? | 08:23 |
| kklimonda | yeah | 08:23 |
| RAOF | Score! | 08:24 |
| RAOF | When does your warranty end? :) | 08:24 |
| kklimonda | in like 2 months | 08:24 |
| kklimonda | but don't worry, it's already the third main board! | 08:24 |
| RAOF | I guess you get to look forward to a… oh. | 08:24 |
| kklimonda | I've heard that three is a lucky number | 08:24 |
| kklimonda | or maybe that was 7.. | 08:25 |
| pitti | re | 08:25 |
| * pitti waves to didrocks, RAOF, lifeless and kklimonda | 08:25 | |
| pitti | didrocks: how are you today? head a bit clearer? | 08:25 |
| RAOF | Yo, pitti! | 08:25 |
| kklimonda | hey pitti | 08:25 |
| pitti | there are magnificient running trails here -- my wife picked a perfect part of the city | 08:26 |
| pitti | RAOF: how is X behaving today? :-) | 08:26 |
| RAOF | pitti: I'm unaware of any showstopping craziness :) | 08:27 |
| pitti | *phew* | 08:27 |
| lifeless | hai pitti | 08:31 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, yeah, I'm a little bit better, thanks! Still not perfectly rested, but I hope I will be fine again soon :) | 08:32 |
| RAOF | Wow! GRUB2 detects OSX and adds an option to its boot menu. It doesn't seem to work, though :) | 08:36 |
| kklimonda | RAOF: does nomodeset work in 10.04 in all cases? | 08:38 |
| RAOF | kklimonda: It should, yes. | 08:39 |
| RAOF | kklimonda: The cases where it might *not* work are where you've got some remnant /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf files explicitly setting foo.modeset=1 lying around. | 08:41 |
| * RAOF heads off to dinner. | 08:42 | |
| mvo | kklimonda: it does not work for me on intel (i830), I had to use i915.modeset=0 | 08:49 |
| mvo | hey seb128, good morning. who feels responsible for compiz in your team? | 09:39 |
| seb128 | hey mvo, nobody | 09:39 |
| seb128 | you? ;-) | 09:39 |
| mvo | in *your team* :P | 09:39 |
| mvo | hrm, there is a new upstream version out, a bit unfortunate that we did not even get git snapshots or cherry pick fixes | 09:40 |
| mvo | i upload to the compiz PPA, I guess there is little we can do | 09:40 |
| seb128 | mvo, you can try robert_ancell but I guess he will deny interest in it | 09:42 |
| seb128 | he's the closer of somebody who had a look to compiz in our team with didrocks | 09:43 |
| seb128 | but I don't think either of them working with upstream or having real interest in it | 09:43 |
| * didrocks nodes | 09:43 | |
| didrocks | salut seb128 ;) | 09:43 |
| didrocks | nods* | 09:43 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks | 09:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, how do you feel today? | 09:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: clearly not in my best shape I can be, but a little bit better than yesterday evening, thanks :) | 09:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:45 |
| didrocks | I guess medicines are doing their work now | 09:45 |
| didrocks | and you? | 09:45 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 09:46 |
| seb128 | brb session restart | 09:46 |
| pitti | wb seb128 | 09:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey again ;-) | 09:48 |
| robert_ancell | I hear nothing... | 09:49 |
| pitti | hey robert_ancell, how are you? | 09:50 |
| pitti | late for you.. | 09:50 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 09:50 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, how are you? | 09:50 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, left the computer on, noticed seb128 talking about something I know nothing about... | 09:50 |
| robert_ancell | looking forward to UDS!! | 09:50 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:51 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, we will try to get reasonable .1 updates as sru updates before UDS | 09:51 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, what's the policy - update to all .1s as long as they don't break anything? (which they shouldn't by definition) | 09:52 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, so if you want to work on some which are not done yet (check upload queue on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1 or vcs before) you are welcome | 09:52 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, right, as pitti put it yesterday some have bold changes, taking gdm as an example | 09:52 |
| pitti | seb128: this gdm change still gives me some trouble | 09:53 |
| pitti | it refers to bug 421292, which isn't actually fixed in .1 | 09:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 421292 in gdm ""Login" button should be "Switch to" for already logged in users" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/421292 | 09:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, which one is particular? the login screen behaviour change? | 09:54 |
| robert_ancell | how does this upload queue work? Are these already done by people and just need sponsoring? | 09:54 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, it's the same as normal upload, targetted to lucid-proposed and they don't go through | 09:54 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ie things go in the queue rather than being accepted in an automatic way | 09:55 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, so, I should look at the queued items and sponsor? Or add new items to the queue? | 09:55 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, which queue? | 09:57 |
| seb128 | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1 is what has been uploaded | 09:57 |
| seb128 | those will be accepted if they are correct after lucid | 09:57 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, confused when you said "check upload queue". You mean I should check there to see if it's already uploaded before packaging a .1. | 09:59 |
| seb128 | yes to not duplicate work | 09:59 |
| robert_ancell | Need to fix versions.py to look in this queue... | 09:59 |
| seb128 | in normal time uploads get accepted and you see what has been updated easily | 09:59 |
| seb128 | but it's less obvious when things are blocked for review in the queue | 09:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hello everyone | 10:00 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 10:00 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 10:00 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, are you travelling already? | 10:00 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: -ish; I went to Munich last weekend, and will go to Belgium on Saturday, for visiting some friends of mine | 10:00 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, chrisccoulson said he would do gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-control-center | 10:00 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: on Wednesday I'll go from Leuven to La Hulpe (just an one-hour local train ride) | 10:00 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti | 10:00 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, didrocks will do empathy once I ask him, he already did a SRU with the previous update | 10:00 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 10:01 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, for others just check the vcs to see if they are done or not tomorrow ;-) | 10:01 |
| seb128 | I will do a bunch today | 10:01 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, cool. Depending on if my OEM queue has filled up I will look at what I can do | 10:01 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - it's not too late for you to do a couple of last-minute removals from the archive is it? | 10:01 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no, removals are fine | 10:01 |
| pitti | lightning-sunbird? :-) | 10:01 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, oh, I'm training to UDS as well - what is the best way to get to the venue? | 10:01 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: they said there would be a shuttle bus from the La Hulpe train station to the hotel | 10:02 |
| pitti | I don't know any more, I'm afraid | 10:02 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, lightning-sunbird is one of them | 10:02 |
| chrisccoulson | along with stumbleupon and livehttpheaders | 10:02 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: can you please assign the removal bugs to me, or subscribe me? | 10:02 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, thanks | 10:03 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, when do you fly to Europe btw? | 10:04 |
| robert_ancell | monday evening | 10:04 |
| seb128 | next week? | 10:04 |
| robert_ancell | yes, I'm going a few days earlier for a friends wedding in the Netherlans | 10:05 |
| seb128 | oh, nice | 10:05 |
| seb128 | some fun in Europe and getting ride of the jetlag before UDS | 10:05 |
| seb128 | enjoy ;-) | 10:05 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, I'll be all ready to go :)_ | 10:06 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - ok, done (bug 571134) | 10:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 571134 in stumbleupon "Please remove source and binaries from archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571134 | 10:06 |
| robert_ancell | oh, who is looking after Network Manager at the moment? | 10:07 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, nice from you to ask that question... ;-) | 10:07 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: chrisccoulson in theory | 10:07 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, what pitti said, he ruined my joke :p | 10:07 |
| chrisccoulson | yes, me, sort of, but i spend all my time on mozilla atm ;) | 10:07 |
| robert_ancell | oh, don't look at me. I tried to get my head around NM for OEM and was not successful. | 10:08 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, don't worry you will get compiz back | 10:08 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I think if you are looking for somebody who knows is way around it try asac he's probably your best bet | 10:08 |
| seb128 | is -> his | 10:08 |
| * robert_ancell opens desktop-maverick-replace-compiz-with-metacity-and-forget-it-ever-existed | 10:09 | |
| pitti | robert_ancell: mutter! | 10:10 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, what are you trying to find out about NM. i can try and help, but can't promise ;) | 10:10 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, you're looking forward to maintaining compiz again? | 10:10 |
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| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson: no, I've stopped working on it. We were trying to get the system connections working by default (i.e. without user interaction) so it ran faster but I couldn't get it to save them with all the secret information | 10:11 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, so, you were trying to get the connection manager to save as system connections by default? | 10:12 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson: have you looked at connman? The architecture seemed better after a quick inspection | 10:12 |
| pitti | hm, for wpa that works fine here | 10:12 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, yes | 10:12 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, automatically? | 10:13 |
| chrisccoulson | and by "without user interaction" you mean without checking the box in the connection manager to make it a system connection? | 10:13 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: well, I clicked "use system-wide" (or so), and on the next boot it's working without anyone having to log in | 10:13 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: nothing in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ for you? | 10:14 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, yeah, what it does it copy the connection from gconf to the system, delete the gconf setting, disconnect, automatically reconnect using the system setting. | 10:14 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, so the issues were: if you followed that method it would reconnect the first time you used it. I tried redirecting the gconf settings to system settings but the API is different. And the secret info gets deleted so when you need it to save it is gone already | 10:15 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, essentially you want to get rid of gconf entirely and store everything as a system setting always | 10:16 |
| * pitti tends to agree | 10:16 | |
| chrisccoulson | the only issue with that is the secrets are currently stored in plaintext | 10:16 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, and in a multi-user system not all settings should be shared | 10:17 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: right, it should be a root:root 600 file | 10:17 |
| robert_ancell | NM seems to have a bad bridge between system and user settings - you should be able to migrate them at any time | 10:18 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i think it is, but that doesn't stop me from reading the files in it ;) | 10:18 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ? | 10:18 |
| robert_ancell | I remember connman being proposed at other UDSs - who pushed that back then? | 10:18 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, yeah, i don't like how the system and user settings work at the moment. it sucks for user switching not being able to have more than one session provide user settings | 10:19 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i could just boot a live CD and read the contents ;) | 10:19 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I could just go to the router, connect to it with ethernet, and change the password | 10:20 |
| pitti | physical access -> you lose either way | 10:21 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - true | 10:21 |
| pitti | but wpa passphrases are a relatively weak secret, compared to e. g. ssh keys or your web shop passwords | 10:21 |
| pitti | if I have access to a computer with WPA, I don't even need to know the passphrase to abuse the network | 10:22 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: shall I remove all the lightning-extension-locale-$LANG and sunbird-locale-$LANG packages, too? | 10:25 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, those should go too | 10:26 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: all gone | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - excellent, thanks | 10:29 |
| asac | robert_ancell: need anything? ;) | 10:33 |
| robert_ancell | asac, heh, I've moved on. I never really "got" the architecture though. I needs an A0 diagram I think.. | 10:34 |
| asac | robert_ancell: ah; so this was about whether you want to take care of NM ;)? | 10:36 |
| robert_ancell | oh, no. That is seb128 just being mean | 10:36 |
| * asac didnt get the context ... just saw his nick being highlighted | 10:36 | |
| asac | hehe | 10:36 |
| seb128 | asac, robert_ancell was asking who is maintain it nowadays since he had issues, and I pointed you as not the current maintainer but probably the best person knowing his way around the code right now there | 10:39 |
| seb128 | asac, issues as issues doing oem changes, not user issues | 10:39 |
| pitti | seb128: gdm, gvfs, g-keyring done and waiting in -proposed | 10:39 |
| pitti | seb128: want me to do more? | 10:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, I noticed, you rock, thanks | 10:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, you are welcome to do so if you want yes but I don't want to keep you away from other things you have to do | 10:40 |
| asac | seb128: yeah thats ok. | 10:40 |
| pitti | seb128: I took a look at bug 475090, and would welcome an opinion from you wrt. comment 13/14 | 10:41 |
| seb128 | asac, how are you btw? sprinting in London? | 10:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 475090 in gdm "Karmic, Lucid: /etc/gdm/Xsession fails to source ~/.xsessionrc or apply ~/.Xresources" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/475090 | 10:41 |
| asac | but i am not triaging any bugs or hunting stuff down on my own ... | 10:41 |
| pitti | seb128: then I can go on with that one | 10:41 |
| asac | seb128: nope ... davidm went there - dont ask me why ;)? | 10:41 |
| asac | i dont care ... our team is well set for release :) | 10:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, let me have a look | 10:42 |
| seb128 | asac, ;-) | 10:42 |
| seb128 | asac, great work this cycle btw! | 10:42 |
| seb128 | as usual ;-) | 10:42 |
| asac | heh | 10:42 |
| asac | thanks | 10:42 |
| asac | i couldnt get enough done. but thats the normal feeling unfortunately | 10:43 |
| seb128 | right... | 10:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I think there are 2 issues there | 10:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, I would add the Xresources parsing to gdm script | 10:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, and I would move the xsession thing to an extra session entry "custom session" | 10:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I'm ready for updates now. If you have good suggestion for things to update :) | 10:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, empathy | 10:44 |
| didrocks | ok | 10:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 10:45 |
| pitti | seb128: exactly my feeling; thanks | 10:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, np, thank you for working on the issue ;-) | 10:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, should I exclude the po from sru debdiffs? | 10:52 |
| pitti | seb128: as you wish | 10:52 |
| pitti | but certainly makes it easier to read | 10:52 |
| seb128 | I don't care strongly either way | 10:53 |
| seb128 | ok, doing it then | 10:53 |
| cassidy | empathy 2.30.1 is packaged in debian I think | 10:55 |
| seb128 | cassidy, right but for sru updates we don't want to rebase on debian but limit changes to what is required | 10:55 |
| seb128 | ie just the new version | 10:55 |
| seb128 | no merge with debian nor packaging changes | 10:55 |
| cassidy | k | 10:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: do you want me to update bug #567277 for 2.30.1, posting a new debdiff or use another bug? (I have also to use -v2.30.0.1-0ubuntu3 so that bugs in 2.30.0.2-0ubuntu1 are closed too) | 11:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 567277 in empathy "[SRU lucid] update to 2.30.0.2 " [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/567277 | 11:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: updating this bug is fine, if 0.2. never actually got uploaded | 11:09 |
| pitti | or, rather, accepted | 11:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: I've uploaded it, but as I'll upload 2.30.1 today, rejecting it seems fine :) | 11:10 |
| didrocks | ok, doing that, thanks :) | 11:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: rejected; please untag in bzr | 11:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: done | 11:11 |
| james_w | (note that if you pushed you will have to "bzr tag --delete -d lp:foo tag-name" | 11:12 |
| james_w | tags aren't versioned, so tag deletion doesn't propogate | 11:12 |
| james_w | today's bzr tip was brought to you by the colour brown and the number 3 | 11:12 |
| didrocks | james_w: heh, thanks fot the tip of the day ;) | 11:13 |
| james_w | Salut didrocks | 11:13 |
| * didrocks notes that down can be useful | 11:13 | |
| didrocks | james_w: hey, how are you? :) | 11:13 |
| pitti | seb128: how convenient; bug 475090 is already fixed in lucid :) | 11:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 475090 in gdm "Karmic, Lucid: /etc/gdm/Xsession fails to apply ~/.Xresources" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/475090 | 11:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, nice ;-) | 11:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, so we only have to add the extra desktop for the user session now | 11:16 |
| pitti | how could we live without Xresources!! | 11:16 |
| seb128 | lol | 11:16 |
| * pitti sighs at arcane and ancient software | 11:16 | |
| pitti | incidentally, I'm currently reading the Unix Hater's Handbook -- very amusing | 11:16 |
| james_w | didrocks: good thanks, you? | 11:17 |
| pitti | hey james_w, how are you? | 11:17 |
| james_w | hi pitti | 11:17 |
| james_w | excited! :-) | 11:17 |
| pitti | feeling lucid? | 11:17 |
| james_w | that's one word for it | 11:18 |
| didrocks | james_w: a little bit ill still. But it's getting a lot better than the beginning of the week, so it's some kind of "getting a strong immune system before UDS" ;) | 11:18 |
| * pitti sighs at 16 "fix committed" tasks; can we plz open maverick? | 11:18 | |
| james_w | didrocks: you'll appreciate that in a couple of weeks :-) | 11:19 |
| didrocks | james_w: heh, sure :-) | 11:20 |
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| didrocks | seb128: do not hesitate to ping me or point me to some page that we don't work on the same thing. I think you don't want all .1 to be as SRU, or should I just have a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= and assume I should upload every .1 GNOME tarball not in that list? | 11:36 |
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| seb128 | didrocks, sorry I was at lunch | 12:39 |
| didrocks | no pb :) | 12:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we don't want everything no, thing which have only translation updates are not worth uploads I think | 12:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, so looking at the ftp (in a few minutes), and looking at the UNAPPROVED list to see what's aready uploaded and then, ping here. Let's use that workflow :) | 12:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you can do anjuta next if you want | 12:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks, will do that one so | 12:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 12:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, if there is any other you want just mention it to get feedback in case | 12:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure | 12:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, things like cheese yelp evince should be in the to update list too | 12:43 |
| seb128 | g-c-c and g-s-d are on chrisccoulson's list | 12:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: can do those this afternoon (yelp, cheese and evince), I guess | 12:43 |
| chrisccoulson | i've done g-s-d now, just about to do g-c-c | 12:43 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, didrocks: thanks | 12:43 |
| seb128 | I've a few on my list too (gedit gtksourceview libsoup) | 12:44 |
| seb128 | then we can look to what remains to do | 12:44 |
| seb128 | dpm, hey | 12:46 |
| seb128 | dpm, the offline firefox startpage translation not being used is a ubufox known issue | 12:46 |
| seb128 | dpm, I was reading those emails on the translators list | 12:46 |
| seb128 | dpm, you can check with chrisccoulson about it I guess | 12:46 |
| seb128 | we discussed it yesterday there | 12:46 |
| chrisccoulson | yes, there are several issues with the offline start page that i'm looking at atm | 12:49 |
| didrocks | speaking of translation, xsane is not translated anymore. I think that's due to main -> universe demotion putting this outside langpack, right? A rebuild should fix that? | 12:58 |
| dpm | didrocks, I think so. The same with gobby, and it'd be worth checking others such as abiword | 13:02 |
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| seb128 | didrocks, right, would be nice to do an upload today for those | 13:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'll try a rebuild there and then upload it as an SRU as well so | 13:17 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you still have your yelp branch? seems you forgot to push ubuntu2 | 13:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no need of a sru for a no change upload to universe today I guess | 13:17 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh, ok, trying rebuild and upload it right away so | 13:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hum, need to check that, changing computer and being back in a few minutes to tell you | 13:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes | 13:18 |
| seb128 | brb | 13:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no sorry I didn't notice it was in a vcs and just did the update without it | 13:25 |
| seb128 | it's not one of the source I change usually | 13:25 |
| didrocks | seb128: no pb. I integrate it | 13:25 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:25 |
| didrocks | should we remove the xsane branch from #ubuntu-desktop? (it's already not up-to-date) | 13:26 |
| didrocks | ~ubuntu-desktop | 13:26 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes | 13:26 |
| didrocks | ok, doing some cleaning so | 13:26 |
| seb128 | we need to clean a bit things staying there | 13:27 |
| seb128 | + discuss next cycle our workflow | 13:27 |
| didrocks | right. It seems we forgot updating the branch or push them too much… We should find a more natural way :) | 13:28 |
| seb128 | well I was rather thinking about moving to canonical vcs location | 13:29 |
| didrocks | would make sense too | 13:29 |
| pitti | the full-source thing for gvfs works quite nicely, but I'm not sure how well it scales to other projects | 13:32 |
| pitti | one important issue is that we'd lose all previous history | 13:33 |
| pitti | but I think that would be bearable | 13:33 |
| pitti | we currently use bzr mostly as a means to do sponsoring and collaborative editing, not so often for digging out past changes | 13:34 |
| pitti | (and for that the old branches will stay aroud anyway) | 13:34 |
| * pitti tests new gdm build, brb | 13:35 | |
| seb128 | pitti, right | 13:35 |
| seb128 | I think most of the things we package are light enough to not be an issue to have full source vcs | 13:35 |
| seb128 | and the vcs history we don't rely much on, and that issue will no go away with time quite the contrary | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | i'd like to move to full source branches for gnome stuff too :) | 13:41 |
| seb128 | we need to document the new workflow before starting doing changes though and agree on it | 13:43 |
| mvo | I think we should discuss it at uds some more, its going to make the branches much bigger | 13:47 |
| mvo | that is a nice feature of the current system, a checkout is really fast and because of debian/watches also very convinient | 13:47 |
| seb128 | mvo, right, that's why we have been waiting to change until now | 14:00 |
| seb128 | mvo, we need to discuss it anyway and maybe keep testing on some smalls source as pitti did on gvfs now | 14:00 |
| pitti | well, we definitively know that we'll get a times-10 overhead on checkout | 14:01 |
| seb128 | what does it win us? | 14:01 |
| pitti | after all, those have the entire upstream history (which we are mostly not needing) | 14:01 |
| pitti | the win, AFAICS, is to have a shared workflow with other teams | 14:02 |
| mvo | I also find it convinient to just see "our" changes by default, but this is of course trivial to get | 14:02 |
| pitti | frankly I dont' see much else | 14:02 |
| pitti | as long as we still keep messing with debian/patches and quilt push/update, etc., we are still ignoring the biggest potential of VCS | 14:02 |
| seb128 | james_w said he would convince us | 14:03 |
| seb128 | I'm still waiting to see what he has to offer though ;-) | 14:03 |
| pitti | full source with bzr loom is a really nice way of packaging | 14:03 |
| seb128 | right | 14:03 |
| seb128 | using source in bzr rocks for dx sources | 14:03 |
| pitti | I tried that with calibre back then, but if an unwitting person stumbles over it, they'll screw it up all over | 14:03 |
| seb128 | you can merge a revision from trunk and do nothing on next version update | 14:03 |
| pitti | right | 14:03 |
| seb128 | it just works | 14:04 |
| pitti | and the current imports aren't branches of upstream trunks, so you can't cherrypick | 14:04 |
| seb128 | right | 14:04 |
| pitti | that's why I've been fairly resistent to dropping our current debian-only branches as well | 14:04 |
| pitti | but let's see what the next UDS will bring :) | 14:04 |
| seb128 | indeed | 14:04 |
| seb128 | I'm fairly happy with what we have now | 14:05 |
| pitti | amd64 3 2829 jobs (four days) | 14:06 |
| pitti | ugh | 14:06 |
| * pitti pushes build score of his PPA a bit | 14:06 | |
| pitti | seb128: do you have some time to look at bug 571021? | 14:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 571021 in brasero "Eject's CD with error when trying to burn mp3" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571021 | 14:14 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm happy to help you with guidance, etc, but I'm missing the hardware (CD burner) here :-( | 14:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, on my list of today, sorry I didn't comment on it yet | 14:14 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm happy to take a few more .1 updates | 14:14 |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| * pitti points out the shortage of "in progress" bugs on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~pitti/+assignedbugs?orderby=status now | 14:15 | |
| seb128 | pitti, speaking of which, http://download.gnome.org/sources/brasero/2.30/brasero-2.30.1.tar.gz ? ;-) | 14:15 |
| pitti | seb128: well, that'd be the one I'd specifically avoid, due to not being able to test :) | 14:15 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://download.gnome.org/sources/vte/0.24/vte-0.24.1.tar.gz ? | 14:16 |
| pitti | seb128: consider it done | 14:16 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:16 |
| seb128 | or not, I think mvo had build issu on 0.24 | 14:16 |
| pitti | Version: 1:0.23.5-0ubuntu1 | 14:16 |
| pitti | (ugh) | 14:16 |
| pitti | vte (1:0.24.0-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low | 14:16 |
| pitti | heh, perhaps | 14:16 |
| pitti | mvo: so you updated, but never uploaded? do you remember what the prob was? | 14:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, I think build is failing in the udeb build | 14:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://download.gnome.org/sources/totem/2.30/totem-2.30.1.tar.gz | 14:17 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, doing that one | 14:17 |
| pitti | totem (2.30.0git20100413-0ubuntu2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low | 14:18 |
| pitti | lool: ^ you abandoned that one? | 14:18 |
| pitti | lool: should I include your preinst fix into an SRU, or was it flawed? | 14:18 |
| mvo | pitti: let me check | 14:19 |
| mvo | pitti: I had build issues, but I may have a fix | 14:19 |
| lool | pitti: I thought it would get uploaded with the latest GNOME | 14:19 |
| pitti | lool: the change looks sensible to me | 14:19 |
| lool | pitti: It was during some freeze or something | 14:19 |
| lool | pitti: it's not critical | 14:19 |
| pitti | lool: and since it's ||true'd, also robust | 14:19 |
| lool | pitti: happy if you SRU it | 14:19 |
| pitti | lool: ok, thanks | 14:20 |
| lool | It's best to SRU it to be able to drop it in maverick | 14:20 |
| lool | pitti: thanks! | 14:20 |
| rickspencer3 | good morning all | 14:29 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3, good morning | 14:30 |
| mvo | pitti: now I remember, gnome bug #614469 | 14:30 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 614469 in VteTerminal "Does no longer compile with -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614469 | 14:30 |
| rickspencer3 | ArneGoetje, bryceh, ccheney, chrisccoulson, didrocks, kenvandine, Nafai, pitti, seb128 what's the word on the street? | 14:31 |
| rickspencer3 | http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/bx2lo/ubuntu_1004_change_is_coming_soon_this_thursday/ | 14:31 |
| rickspencer3 | looks like users are having a good experience with 10.04 and are excited for tomorrow | 14:31 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, nothing to signal | 14:31 |
| seb128 | things look good | 14:32 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: seems safe ;) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | we are mostly in SRU mode for .1 updates today | 14:32 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, ack | 14:32 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, totem requires gstreamer 0.10.28.1 | 14:46 |
| kenvandine | hey rickspencer3 | 14:48 |
| rickspencer3 | hi kenvandine | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | working on a couple gwibber fixes to SRU | 14:48 |
| rickspencer3 | nice | 14:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://git.gnome.org/browse/totem/log/?h=gnome-2-30 | 14:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, it seems artificial requirement to get a fix, I think we should downgrade | 14:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, I don't see a commit between our snapshot and .1 depending on it | 14:51 |
| seb128 | or making a difference | 14:51 |
| pitti | http://git.gnome.org/browse/totem/commit/?h=gnome-2-30&id=bff0927709eeca0046307185930fb09a60b4f407 | 14:51 |
| didrocks | fredp: you were talking about totem requiring new gstreamer yesterday, any input? ^ | 14:52 |
| fredp | didrocks: a new gstreamer went out last night. | 14:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, but there is no queue2 change after our snapshot | 14:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, so it will not be buggier than what we have now I think | 14:52 |
| pitti | seb128: we have a snapshot? | 14:52 |
| pitti | Package: libgstreamer0.10-0 | 14:52 |
| pitti | bVersion: 0.10.28-1 | 14:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, git20100413 | 14:53 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, you mean in totem | 14:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, totem I mean | 14:53 |
| pitti | seb128: sure, I can just revert that dependency | 14:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, ie I would downgrade the configure requirement change | 14:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, fredp: the new gstreamer is not a stable update though | 14:54 |
| fredp | seb128: how so? | 14:54 |
| seb128 | fredp, look at the number of api additions? + new deprecation | 14:54 |
| seb128 | fredp, or we don't have the same definition of a stable update | 14:55 |
| seb128 | there is 15 api addition in this update | 14:55 |
| seb128 | quite some new code | 14:55 |
| fredp | certainly gstreamer and gnome don't have the same definition; but this is how gstreamer releases are. | 14:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - g-c-c and g-s-d are ready for sponsoring | 14:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: thanks | 14:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - g-s-d adds a preference for hiding the keyboard indicator now, but i'm not entirely satisfied with how it works though | 14:57 |
| seb128 | fredp, well it's probably not what most distribution would take as a stable update either | 14:57 |
| seb128 | fredp, not debian or ubuntu to start | 14:57 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not listening for gconf changes | 14:57 |
| chrisccoulson | so, it only updates when you add/remove a keyboard layout or restart your session | 14:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: the change is a gconf key right? ie nothing users will notice out of dealing with it there | 14:57 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, that's right. there's no corresponding UI in g-c-c yet | 14:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: it's fine enough, it let the option for technical people who care enough I guess | 14:57 |
| seb128 | it seems a new feature and I don't think we should spend efforts on getting that to work dynamically in a stable serie | 14:58 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, no problem. that's all done then | 14:58 |
| seb128 | but point it to svu he might be happy to improve the code | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | so, i'll look at gnome-terminal now, unless that's blocked on vte | 14:59 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 14:59 |
| pitti | mvo: nice, so 2.24.1 vte could actually work | 15:00 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah | 15:01 |
| mvo | pitti: let me try it | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i can't get gwibber to start atm | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine - gwibber-service is crashing on startup at the moment. have you seen anything like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/424000/ | 15:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i noticed that gwibber stopped working for me yesterday, and doesn't start at all anymore :-/ | 15:03 |
| * kenvandine looks | 15:04 | |
| kenvandine | eek | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | that is actually failing in python-couchdb... not even desktopcouch | 15:05 |
| mvo | vte looks encouraging currently | 15:05 |
| mvo | but takes *ages* to build | 15:05 |
| mvo | *pff* now I get even more undefined symbols | 15:09 |
| mvo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/424009/ | 15:10 |
| * mvo commits his latest changes to bzr | 15:10 | |
| pitti | mvo: thanks; seems we'll skip that for lucid-updates then :) | 15:12 |
| * pitti hugs mvo | 15:12 | |
| mvo | yeah :) | 15:12 |
| mvo | I can look at it at some point, but not today | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson: can you go to ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html with a web browser? | 15:12 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, yeah, that still works ok | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson: does this problem span reboots? | 15:14 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, yeah, it's not worked at all since yesterday, and i've rebooted a few times in between | 15:15 |
| * kenvandine is confused why there is no desktopcouch code at all in that traceback | 15:15 | |
| kenvandine | that call is going through desktopcouch.records.server | 15:16 |
| pitti | seb128: totem done, too; | 15:16 |
| * pitti -> off for an hour for supermarket and errands | 15:17 | |
| seb128 | ok, I'm done with updates too | 15:17 |
| seb128 | looking to some bugs now | 15:17 |
| seb128 | there is still a bunch of tarballs for those who want to do extra ones later | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson: can you please file a bug and go ahead and assign it to me? | 15:17 |
| seb128 | thanks chrisccoulson, didrocks, pitti | 15:17 |
| * kenvandine has to leave in a couple minutes, will be gone for a couple hours | 15:17 | |
| seb128 | nice work, we did most of the updates today ;-) | 15:17 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent \o/ | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | kids pre-school show and then taking him to lunch to celebrate his 5th birthday :) | 15:18 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, ok, will do. thanks | 15:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll leave my profile and everything intact for now | 15:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: you're welcome. I'm finishing yelp and it should be ok :) | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson: thx... appreciate it | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson: i'll work on it this afternoon | 15:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i was going to delete it and start again before i messaged you, but then i thought that might not be so helpful ;) | 15:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you can do gedit after that if you still want to do one | 15:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure :) | 15:19 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:19 |
| * kenvandine heads out, be back in 2-2.5 hours | 15:19 | |
| asac | !test | 15:38 |
| ubottu | hrm? | 15:38 |
| asac | ok i am still here ;) | 15:38 |
| ogra | lol | 15:38 |
| * ogra didnt know that one | 15:39 | |
| chrisccoulson | me neither | 15:39 |
| didrocks | ok, gedit, cheese, evince, anjuta & empathy uploaded to -proposed with sru asked in bugs | 16:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you rock | 16:01 |
| didrocks | xsane uploaded to lucid, hope that pitti can give it a look for people upgrading :) | 16:01 |
| ogra | he did | 16:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, should we subscribe the ubuntu-sru team to each bug when several are fixed in an update? | 16:02 |
| didrocks | ogra: nice play on words :) | 16:02 |
| ogra | :) | 16:02 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| seb128 | didrocks, want to do file-roller too? | 16:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you can say no, it's just in case you are bored ;-) | 16:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: can do after a 10 minutes break :) | 16:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no hurry, later, tomorrow, whenever you want! | 16:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, enjoy | 16:18 |
| didrocks | thanks ;) | 16:18 |
| seb128 | you should take longer than 10 minutes of break too ;-) | 16:19 |
| didrocks | well, break is actually reading blog post, taking some medecines and answering to emails :-) | 16:19 |
| didrocks | (sru is too much paperwork with opening a bug, pushing a debdiff ;)) | 16:20 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:22 |
| seb128 | you don't need to open a bug if it closes an open bug | 16:22 |
| seb128 | but for those updates that's not always the case ;-) | 16:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, it was only the case for one there | 16:23 |
| didrocks | all the other, I had to open a new one | 16:23 |
| Nafai | good morning | 16:29 |
| seb128 | hey Nafai | 16:30 |
| didrocks | hey Nafai | 16:37 |
| === bjf is now known as elBoto | ||
| === elBoto is now known as bjf | ||
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, btw when you do a sru which close a bug no need to open a bug about the update too | 17:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, i.e the g-s-d one you could have used the request to hide the layout indicator one | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i realised that after i opened the bug | 17:04 |
| chrisccoulson | sorry ;) | 17:04 |
| seb128 | ok, I was just pointing it in case you didn't know | 17:04 |
| seb128 | no worry ;-) | 17:04 |
| seb128 | it's you who had the extra work | 17:04 |
| pitti | re | 17:08 |
| seb128 | wb pitti | 17:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: sorry, you uploaded to final, but xsane is on the ubuntustudio images; rejecting, needs to become an SRU | 17:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh bad, ok, will do an sru so :/ | 17:11 |
| pitti | seb128: preferably yes, but my sru-accept script does it as well, so for uploads which are already in the queue you don't need to | 17:11 |
| pitti | seb128: but please make sure that they have lucid tasks, etc, so that I don't need to do all that, too | 17:11 |
| didrocks | oh, we should had lucid tasks? | 17:12 |
| didrocks | add* | 17:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, I copied what you did | 17:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, subscribed ubuntu-sru, added tasks and added a comment saying which bug has the debdiff | 17:13 |
| pitti | thanks | 17:18 |
| didrocks | waow, never noticed that LP: #… was recognized as link in the terminal | 17:19 |
| pitti | it is? | 17:19 |
| pitti | not in mine | 17:20 |
| Nafai | not in mine either | 17:20 |
| Nafai | where'd you get this special g-t package? | 17:20 |
| pitti | you're holding back good stuff! | 17:20 |
| didrocks | I'm using terminator, let me see in gnome-terminal | 17:20 |
| didrocks | :) | 17:20 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's only in terminator apparently | 17:21 |
| pitti | ah | 17:21 |
| * didrocks can't live without splitting screen | 17:21 | |
| pitti | didrocks: it it able to save its configuration these days? | 17:21 |
| pitti | it was pretty neat when I looked at it back then, but I greatly missed the possibility to configure the splitting/geometry on the CLI, or save its state | 17:22 |
| james_w | yes, since lucid | 17:22 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, last version can | 17:22 |
| pitti | sweet | 17:22 |
| didrocks | but there is some new bugs like not being able to move the current tab if you split your terminal | 17:23 |
| seb128 | bah, brasero is a piece of crap it seems | 17:24 |
| ogra | quick ! change the seeds and include k3b :) | 17:25 |
| pitti | seb128: it gets worse with every test you do? | 17:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, I didn't do much test, I put a dvd rw in it to do testing | 17:28 |
| seb128 | it didn't list the disk an as option | 17:28 |
| seb128 | I found a "clear disk" menu item which I figured I would use to have the disk clear and listed | 17:28 |
| seb128 | it tooks a few second and say "disk cleaned" and now I've no disk listed at all and a growisofs still running after closing brasero | 17:29 |
| seb128 | bah | 17:30 |
| seb128 | and now gvfs doesn't list either the CD driver or the blank DVD when I put it in the drive | 17:31 |
| seb128 | udisks --dump see it though | 17:31 |
| seb128 | Showing information for /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sr0 | 17:32 |
| seb128 | has media: 1 (detected at mer. 28 avril 2010 18:30:22 CEST) | 17:32 |
| seb128 | ok, let me grab another media, I will open a bug about those issues later | 17:32 |
| seb128 | ok, same story on an another disk | 17:39 |
| seb128 | the thing doesn't like blank dvdrw disks | 17:39 |
| seb128 | ok, time to get ready for sport and dinner | 17:41 |
| seb128 | I will debug brasero with a CD later and talk with pitti tomorrow about the dvd-rw being ignored by gvfs etc | 17:41 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, last time I wrote a dvd-r, I think | 17:42 |
| * Nafai tries out terminator | 17:52 | |
| * pitti -> dinner | 17:55 | |
| didrocks | I really think that the mess in the panel will generate a lot of bugs. I don't have many clue on how that should be debugged (ex: bug #570664) | 17:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 570664 in indicator-applet "Unable to Logout / Shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570664 | 17:56 |
| Sarvatt | i get something similar every 10 boots or so, except all indicator-applets are doubled and indicator-applet-session isn't shown at all | 18:02 |
| chrisccoulson | Sarvatt - that's a known issue with gnome-panel | 18:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: not sure we want update file-roller, the only fix is "Fixed build error when dbus is not available.". Do we have dbus in our buildd as the previous version was built correctly? | 18:04 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: did you have the time to have a look there btw? do you know where the rendering issue is and why the indicator or the notification area triggers it? | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - not yet, but it's not just the notification area and indicator | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i've seen it in all applets now | 18:06 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: oh really? I just had that in those area. that's weird we didn't have that previously as gnome-panel shouldn't have changed a lot recently | 18:07 |
| didrocks | so, can we blame vuntz|aw1y when he will be back from holidays? ;) | 18:07 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - it's been an issue since karmic, but it seems to have become worse this cycle | 18:07 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I'll talk about that with him if you're sure it's in gnome-panel | 18:08 |
| Sarvatt | yeah I've seen it with the drawer and go-home applet too in the past few months now that you mention it, those just only doubled like that once or twice | 18:08 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, Sarvatt - bug 439448 | 18:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 439448 in gnome-panel "visual corruption affecting several panel applets" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439448 | 18:09 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: thanks, I'll point this to him | 18:10 |
| * didrocks dups the other bug | 18:11 | |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - here's a good example - http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/Selection_001.png ;) | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson | the clock applet is messed up there | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson | and here is the hamster-applet - http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/Selection_002.png | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson | but i see it mostly with the indicator and notification area | 18:12 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: not sure if it's based on "dynamic size" applet or not | 18:13 |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| didrocks | which can also screw the others one | 18:13 |
| * Nafai lunches | 18:30 | |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, can you add some log files to that bug | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | ~/.cache/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.*.1 | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | the current theory is that perhaps something is causing spidermonkey to crash | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, and do you by chance have test versions of anything that could potentially break spidermonkey installed? | 18:45 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, i have xulrunner from the ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA, which is going to become the first security update in a couple of weeks | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | i should have that too | 18:46 |
| * kenvandine verifies | 18:46 | |
| kenvandine | oh... no, i did before i re-installed | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | couchdb uses xulrunner stuff to execute it's views | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | libmozjs.so | 18:47 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's a bit of a pain ;) | 18:48 |
| chrisccoulson | right, i've added some log files to the bug | 18:48 |
| kenvandine | thx | 18:48 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, actually, i'm not running the xulrunner security update | 18:50 |
| chrisccoulson | i had to downgrade it when i was testing gjs | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | i wonder if there is any problems having gjs stuff installed | 18:52 |
| kenvandine | i can't imagine it could break spidermonkey | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, i bet i know what is causing it ;) | 18:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm running a debug build of xulrunner for something else | 18:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i bet if i install the non-debug version it starts working again ;) | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | interesting... | 18:55 |
| chrisccoulson | let me try | 18:55 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine - that works now | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | so it was my fault ;) | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | ok... thx | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | fragile i guess | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | sorry for wasting your time ;) | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it is pretty fragile | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | no worries, better to investigate than not to | 19:01 |
| seb128 | re | 19:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, didrocks: one of the bugs state that the corruption with indicators and applet happens only under compiz | 19:51 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i can quite believe that | 19:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks, what about the uri in dnd bug fixed in .1.1 for file-roller? what version did you check? | 19:52 |
| baptistemm_ | «build starts in 16 hours »...yummy | 20:30 |
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| Nafai | going to grab a snack than brb | 20:33 |
| === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] | ||
| didrocks | seb128: oh, I check, 2.30.1, didn't see 2.30.1.1, will do tomorrow morning :) | 22:00 |
| didrocks | (yeah, I shouldn't reconnect ;)) | 22:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no you shouldn't ;-) | 22:00 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, I had to push something on my server, so while uploading, triaging bugs, fixing a Quickly one, and then, reconnect on IRC was the bad decisions I took :p | 22:01 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 22:02 |
| didrocks | well, really going this time. It will be less to do for tomorrow morning | 22:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: good night, see you tomorrow :) | 22:06 |
| seb128 | 'night didrocks | 22:06 |
| === MacSlow|gym is now known as MacSlow | ||
| TheMuso | Good morning. | 23:04 |
| Nafai | Hey TheMuso | 23:05 |
| === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf | ||
| RAOF | Morning all. | 23:54 |
| RAOF | Again with the network! | 23:55 |
| Nafai | problems? | 23:55 |
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