[00:49] <qwebirc54432> Good evening
[00:49] <qwebirc54432> !help
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[02:44] <puff> Hey, so my new TV only has HDMI in, and my current graphics card only has S-video out.
[02:45] <puff> What HDMI-capable graphics card is recommended for mythbuntu on an asus e1870 p4p 800 s-x motherboard?
[02:45] <puff> I don't have a cable card and I'm not too interested in getting one, because all the stuff I want to watch isn't on the unencrypted channels.
[02:45] <puff> But I wouldn't mind getting a remote control...
[03:22] <dewman> puff, I am in the process of modding a old xbox IR reciever to work with myth...Not sure what anyone else is using...
[03:38] <symptom> any recommendations on a PCI capture card for digital tv in the us.
[03:51] <dewman> symptom, are you using ota?
[03:52] <dewman> or are you using cable/sat/ coat-hanger?
[03:54] <symptom> coat hanger OTA
[03:54] <rhpot1991> HDHR
[03:54] <rhpot1991> not pci, but its the best
[03:54] <dewman> if you have no intention of getting cable or sat, why not grab a HDHR
[03:55] <dewman> and you dont have to have it out in the open, stick under the couch so the wife doesnt see it.
[03:55] <rhpot1991> symptom: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BEEDBE?ie=UTF8&tag=baablogicnet-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003BEEDBE
[03:56] <rhpot1991> thats a very good price too
[03:56] <dewman> rhpot1991, yes it is....I might just grab one to have another tuner..
[03:57] <dewman> dual is 131
[03:57] <symptom> That is a good price.  I thought they were more expensive
[03:57] <symptom> I cant find much on the specs
[03:58] <symptom> so the dual tuner is 170
[03:59] <symptom> still cheaper than most current PCI tuners
[03:59] <dewman> dual tuner is 131 on amazon.
[04:00] <symptom> no HDD on it thought right?  I tis just hte tuner, so mythtv does the recording scheduling, etc
[04:00] <dewman> yep. its just a tuner...
[04:00] <dewman> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Silicondust_HDHomeRun
[04:00] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Silicondust HDHomeRun - MythTV
[04:02] <dewman> that attaches via cat5 to your network.
[04:03] <rhpot1991> you can attach it directly to a computer too, no need for a crossover or anything
[04:03] <rhpot1991> thats how I do mine
[04:03] <rhpot1991> have a pci nic and then ethernet attached to that
[04:03] <symptom> but if I were to get cable then I would need an analog tuner, to record shows from my cable box right?
[04:03]  * rhpot1991 grumbles about this cheap netgear router which caused that setup
[04:03] <rhpot1991> symptom: well, the HDHR can record clear qam
[04:04] <rhpot1991> so normally you will get your OTA channels over that through cable, no need for an antenna
[04:04] <rhpot1991> with most providors that is all you will see
[04:04] <rhpot1991> analog is going away in most places, so that most likely wont help you much other than short term
[04:04] <rhpot1991> something like the HD-PVR and a set top box from your cable provider will help you record the rest
[04:05] <dewman> if you get cable (comcast/blah) I would suggest a HD-pvr1212 with that guy, it has all the outputs that you can pipe into mythtv.
[04:05] <rhpot1991> symptom: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018LX0DY?ie=UTF8&tag=baablogicnet-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0018LX0DY
[04:05] <dewman> rhpot1991, you beat me to it..
[04:05] <dewman> lol
[04:05] <rhpot1991> thats my setup, HDHR and a HD-PVR
[04:05] <rhpot1991> some firewire, and some no longer used analog hauppauge cards
[04:05] <symptom> lets say I moved out to the booneys and I didnt have the skill/space/etc to build a sick antenna.  So I buy cable the output of my cable box is still analog right? so i would need an analog tuner?
[04:06] <rhpot1991> http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/13
[04:06] <Zinn> [www.baablogic.net] My MythTV Setup | www.baablogic.net
[04:06] <rhpot1991> symptom: analog is dead in the US
[04:06] <rhpot1991> all broadcast is digital and almost all cable providers are cutting off analog and going digital only
[04:07] <rhpot1991> I suppose if you weren't doing HD, and used one of the DTAs you could record over analog
[04:07] <rhpot1991> provided you can find an analog card for sale these days
[04:08] <dewman> i've got some old frame grabbers... =)
[04:08] <dewman> wintv....
[04:09] <rhpot1991> yes, stay away from frame grabbers
[04:09] <rhpot1991> you could prob find a hauppauge 150 card on ebay or something
[04:10] <rhpot1991> http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=hauppauge+pvr+150&_sacat=See-All-Categories
[04:10] <Zinn> [shop.ebay.com] hauppauge pvr 150, Computers Networking, hauppauge pvr 500. Great deals on eBay!
[04:10] <rhpot1991> most of those prices, I'd say just get a HDHR instead
[04:11] <symptom> thanks all
[04:11] <dewman> or if you really feel like being a geek, get a rss reader, then go find a webpage (that I wont name) that searches all of craigslist and pull all the listings for what your searching for via rss... =)
[04:11] <rhpot1991> symptom: make sense?
[04:12] <symptom> it does.  I would need the dual tuner in order to record a show and watch live TV.
[04:12] <symptom> but I suppose I would need two PCI cards to do that anyway.
[04:13] <rhpot1991> there are some pci cards that have dual tuners
[04:13] <rhpot1991> or one analog one digital (some of these only work in digital, so read up)
[04:13] <symptom> So I can use a patch cable to go direct from the HDHR to my PC?  No crossover or switch?
[04:13] <rhpot1991> yep
[04:13] <rhpot1991> thats how I do mine
[04:13] <dewman> or hybrid tuner (which you dont want) (I made that mistake)
[04:13] <rhpot1991> and if you are using mythtv .22 or newer, then you can use whats called multi-rec with the HDHR
[04:14] <symptom> hybrid is both analog and digital on one input dewman ?
[04:14] <rhpot1991> it lets you record multiple programs on each tuner as long as they are on the same multiplex
[04:14] <rhpot1991> so for instance I can record on cbs and fox (I think) at the same time
[04:14] <dewman> refrain that... the hybrid that I have is a not so great one...
[04:14] <rhpot1991> and only use one tuner
[04:15] <rhpot1991> symptom: if you get anything analog, make sure it does hardware encoding, anything that is a frame grabber will waste cpu to record
[04:15] <symptom> multi-rec?  So I can record two stations at the same time with one tuner?
[04:15] <rhpot1991> that goes for any hybrid that does analog too
[04:15] <rhpot1991> symptom: yep
[04:15] <symptom> how do I know if two stations are on the same multiplex
[04:16] <rhpot1991> I can record 4 shows at once with my HDHR, you can push it beyond that but your channel layout will most likely make it not very useful
[04:16] <rhpot1991> symptom: http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us
[04:16] <Zinn> [www.silicondust.com] hdhomerun/channels - Silicondust
[04:16] <rhpot1991> plug your zip into there
[04:17] <symptom> so dewman even if Im just using the digital capability of the hvr-1600 (which is hybrid?) that is not recommended?
[04:18] <symptom> rhpot1991, 4 shows on one tuner?
[04:18] <dewman> no no no....I jumped the gun...
[04:18] <rhpot1991> hvr-1600 is ok I think, there are 2 versions of it one that can do clear qam and one that can't
[04:18] <rhpot1991> symptom: 4 shows, 2 tuners
[04:18] <rhpot1991> I have the dual tuner HDHR
[04:18] <dewman> my fingers were typing but my brain was not communicating with them....
[04:19] <symptom> haha.  ok so I want clear QAM if i go with the hybrid?
[04:19] <symptom> or 1600 is not hyrbrid?
[04:21] <dewman> no its not... it has seperate  atsc and  ntsc tuners
[04:22] <rhpot1991> I think most "hybrid" tuners are just one of each, no?
[04:22] <rhpot1991> one card, one of each
[04:23] <symptom> ok
[04:24] <symptom> so that http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us link is pretty sick.  Are the 256QAM stations that it shows unencrypted?  So once my cable is on I can go direct from the wall to my HDHR or HVR-xxxx
[04:24] <Zinn> [www.silicondust.com] hdhomerun/channels - Silicondust
[04:24] <rhpot1991> symptom: most likely your cable company is transitioning analog away
[04:24] <rhpot1991> they will more analog channels to clear qam and leave them there for a bit, then eventually those will get encrypted
[04:24] <symptom> ok
[04:25] <rhpot1991> all you can reliably hope for are your local OTA channels
[04:25] <rhpot1991> I'm ignoring my analog channels in clear qam, cause one day they will be gone, I'd rather not get used to them being there
[04:25] <symptom> ha
[04:27] <symptom> rhpot1991, so you pay for cable?
[04:31] <rhpot1991> symptom: yes
[04:31] <rhpot1991> I picked out an antenna and was ready to get rid of it, till my wife got angry about said decision
[04:32] <tgm4883> dang women ;)
[04:32] <rhpot1991> heh, agreed
[04:32] <rhpot1991> I woulda been sad about missing live sports
[06:53] <symptom> most major sporting events are on network tv though....
[10:49] <ak74> hello
[11:31] <stuarticus> Hi everyone, can anyone advise on upgrading to 10.04 when it is released? Do I need to change my sources? At the moment if I run update-manager -d I get an option to upgrade, which is presumably from the main repository, is this safe or should I wait, or even consider a clean install?
[12:23] <ak74> Hi,  I am new to Linux and have installed Mythbuntu.  I have a Hauppauge wintv pvr 500 card installed.  I also installed ivtv.  It will recoginize the card but will not get any channels.  when I go to watch tv on the frontend, it says please wait and then goes back to the frontend menu.  If I scan for channels, it says no signal lock.  I am on comcast cable.
[12:23] <ak74> Thanks in advance
[12:36] <Bezzeb> Hi all - repeat of question from yesterday:  I'm looking to hire a mythbuntu appliance developer.  Any tips on where I can go to get someone familiar with Myth TV - and also aware of the constraints that go into making a sealed product for casual customer usage?  My company already has a streaming video service, and we already have a development team on the project, but we have a slot to fill to bring appliance development knowledge onto the team.
[12:38] <Daviey> Bezzeb: Whilst it's unconventional, and if too many people did it it would have to be stopped; I would send your requestto the ubuntu-mythtv mailing list.
[12:38] <Daviey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-mythtv
[12:38] <Zinn> [lists.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu-mythtv Info Page
[12:40] <Bezzeb> Hi Daviey,  I thought about the mailing list, but then I remembered my old days on lists where requests like mind would be met with a degree of flame.  :)   Are you on the list?  Would they accept my inquiry in good spirits?
[12:41] <Daviey> Bezzeb: it's a low volume one, and i think it will be fine.  I agree it *could* be a problem, but considering it will be the first one ever; I think it's worth a try.
[12:41] <Daviey> I certainly wouldn't have a problem.
[12:42] <Bezzeb> I mean my dream would be to hire one of the guys who packaged the live CD of mythbuntu for a month or something...  I know our problem in developing this new appliance would be fairly easy for a guy with the right skills to solve.
[12:42] <Bezzeb> Okay, I'll go sign up and pose my inquiry.  I'll leave this IRC open in the event anyone else has a tip.  We've got deadlines and are urgently looking to fill this slot.
[12:43] <Bezzeb> By slot I mean job.  ;)
[12:54] <Ratok> hello everyone, is anyone out there who knows about VAAPI support of current linux intel drivers and supported hardware, my informations just say mpeg 2 on X4500HD
[12:55] <tassbur> Hi ebd, I'm having troubles with my HVR-4000 when I try to search new channels. If I do a full scan I get nothing, and if I import the channels.conf from an external scan I get my channels back, but when I tune to a channel, I only watch pixels and glich errors
[12:57] <Ratok> and another question, which codecs do the DVB-C systems use
[12:57] <tassbur> anyone know what's the problem?
[12:58] <Ratok> tassbur: which DVB system do you use or is it analog?
[12:58] <tassbur> dvb-t
[12:59] <SirColin> mayby look here http://rothfuchs.net/2009/12/mythtv-channel-scan-does-not-work-no-channels-found/
[12:59] <Zinn> [rothfuchs.net]
[13:00] <SirColin> lol
[13:01] <tassbur> thanks, but dvb-s works well
[13:03] <SirColin> this thread may help you http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/hardware/11318-hvr-4000-fails-scan.html
[13:03] <Zinn> [www.mythtvtalk.com]
[13:05] <tassbur> i've using this
[13:05] <tassbur> MythTV Version   : 24158
[13:05] <tassbur> MythTV Branch    : branches/release-0-23-fixes
[13:06] <tassbur> i've got mythbuntu 10.04
[13:08] <tassbur> SirColin: have i to patch even i have this version of mythtv?
[13:11] <SirColin> it seems to suggest to install 0.22 then patch then scan then update to 0.23 but im not expert in these things, just trying to help
[13:12] <SirColin> mayb posting in that thread may help
[13:12] <tassbur> thanks
[13:12] <SirColin> np
[13:16] <SirColin> tassbur have a read here also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633182&page=10
[13:16] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] Hauppauge HVR4000 and Scanning for channels *newbie desperate for help - Page 10 - Ubuntu Forums
[13:16] <SirColin> ok Zinn this is getting spooky:-)
[13:16] <Zinn> Hi SirColin, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[13:17] <tassbur> SirColin: it isn't a firmware problem since it upload firmware correct
[13:18] <tassbur> cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete
[13:20] <SirColin> Multiproto Drivers  ????
[13:21] <tassbur> multiproto drivers?
[13:21] <tassbur> bye, i have to go, i'll be back later
[15:05] <qwebirc15883> morning
[15:05] <qwebirc15883> anyone here?
[16:13] <Ratok> Hello i looked around for some solutions of the INTEL 4500HD, http://www.splitted-desktop.com/~gbeauchesne/mplayer-vaapi/
[16:13] <Zinn> [www.splitted-desktop.com] Index of /~gbeauchesne/mplayer-vaapi
[16:13] <Ratok> Could this solve the speed problems of Intel 4500 Cards?
[16:44] <haffe> Hi guys, I'm looking at getting a HTPC. I would appreciate some input regarding hiberante/suspend cabablities, if anyone here has the following hardware. 1) DVB-Tcard (hauppauge nova-t 500) 2) graphics card (nvidia geforce)
[23:28] <ak74> Hi all, I need help setting up a hauppauge wintv-pvr-500 card
[23:34] <tgm4883> ak74, it should work OOTB, you just need to set it up in mythtv-setup
[23:35] <tgm4883> or you could just leave
[23:42] <rhpot1991> clearly the better solution
[23:42] <tgm4883> well yea
[23:42] <tgm4883> I would have just fixed his issue
[23:42] <tgm4883> this way he gets to tinker with it more
[23:43] <rhpot1991> thats what you get for trying to help