[00:00] <fatum> I remember awhile back being able to open an FTP location from the gnome File Browser?  How do you do this?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> plum: anyway I suggest  clean installing from a 10.04 CD, however  download servers will be packed at the begining and so rather slow,  downloading ISO on Saturday though will probably be alright
[00:00] <nny> bsmith093: http://www.networkclue.com/hardware/network/switches-vs-hubs.aspx
[00:00] <molqr> is there urxvt-tabbed in hardy heron?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> plum: and good to check your ISO once you have it
[00:00] <Typos_King> Gerrit:    nope, am afraid, it used to do that for me too, when there was only 1 entry to boot from, [nothing to choose about], now I have more entries, and it does show with my 30secs timeout
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > plum
[00:00] <ywgx> look here
[00:00] <ywgx> http://www.baidu.com/s?word=grub&tn=sitehao123&wd=grub
[00:00] <plum> sebsebseb: not sure... i was in here earlier today with other issues from grub though. the thing is, i'm installing ubuntu to a removable harddrive, so grub would search for it and would not boot up if i didn't have the harddrive plugged in. so i just went to the snow leopard bootloader
[00:00] <nny> time to run, see ya
[00:01] <ywgx> what?
[00:01] <tdlm> we're using libvirt here and for some reason, one of the domains fires up but wont ping at all. this just started happening this morning. anyone know why or where i might get help diagnosing this issue?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> !grub > plum
[00:01] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | plum
[00:01] <Gerrit> Typos_King: Now I try to change the resolution and see what happens, brb
[00:02] <ywgx> here have japanese?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> plum: if that was a clean install of 9.10, you will have Grub 2
[00:02] <ywgx> grub 1.98
[00:02] <plum> sebsebseb: probably... it still didn't work though when i didn't have the other harddrive removed
[00:02] <aj00200> Can anyone give me some advice on installing tortoise HG. It says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: mercurial (>= 1.4)", but I have a newer version. Downloading an older version of mercurial doesn't work either
[00:02] <plum> i need to be able to use my computer without that harddrive too though
[00:02] <Typos_King> plum:     what you can do on that is, save Grub to the external device MBR, and yes, it won't boot cuz it's looking for its /boot/grub files to boot with, and in your case it was on the HD mbr, while its files where on the external, thus the error
[00:03] <plum> Typos_King: i did try that... i installed ubuntu on /dev/sdb, but grub to /dev/sda
[00:03] <plum> it still would not boot up without that harddrive
[00:03] <Typos_King> plum:    saving grub to the external device will load it 'when booting from usb' device
[00:03] <sebsebseb> !usb | plum
[00:04] <plum> Typos_King: my secondary harddrive is not USB though. it fits into my optical drive in a little compartment, directly to the computer
[00:04] <plum> weird situation i know
[00:05] <Typos_King> plum:     sudo grub-install /dev/sdb;    will stick it to the 'sdb' MBR, and thus will bring it up when the usb is being booted from, then it'll find its files and all
[00:06] <Gerrit> grub still doesn't show :(
[00:06] <SuN__> !fsck
[00:06] <Gerrit> should I be asking in ubuntu+1? this is 10.04
[00:06] <Pici> Gerrit: Yes.
[00:06] <Gerrit> Ok.
[00:06] <Typos_King> plum:   even so, the 'grub error', comes up for having the grub loaded on the HD mbr and its files elsewhere
[00:06] <dlow> Hey, im dyin here. i just got a GeForce GT240 Graphics card and I cant find an appropriate driver. anyone know what I should do?
[00:07] <dlow> Its a 1GB DDR3
[00:07] <beerman> audio question
[00:07] <dlow> audio and visual
[00:07] <beerman> in enemy territory my sound goes through the headset and not the speakers like i want it to
[00:07] <plum> Typos_King: why does ubuntu install the files elsewhere then? shouildn't it install the files to wherever mbr you installed grub to in the first place?
[00:08] <dlow> yea, unless you buy the graphics card after you got linux and you want to run it thru hdmi and dont wanna reinstall ubuntu
[00:08] <dlow> thats my issue and it kinda sucks
[00:08] <rolsworth> is there any way to change the default im program and get the same functions with the mail icon?
[00:08] <Typos_King> plum:   nope, the boot loader you get when you boot a machine, is the one loaded in the MBR of the 1st internal/fixed HD in the machine, regardless of how many there are, slaves or else, and partitions in them
[00:09] <acicula> dlow: you cant activate the nvidia driver via hardware drivers ?
[00:09] <plum> gotcha...
[00:09] <Typos_King> plum:   that's the boot loader you get upon boot from a machine, its files can be anywhere
[00:09] <plum> well i'm gonna go change ubuntu to ext3 then and see how that works out
[00:09] <plum> thanks for the help though guys
[00:10] <aweoms> hey
[00:10] <ywgx> firefox how use irc?
[00:11] <Typos_King> ywgx:  install chatzilla I guess
[00:11] <ywgx> thank you
[00:11] <aweoms> question: for the past 30min i have been trying to install noscirpt on ubuntu lucid RC for firefox and no good
[00:11] <sebsebseb> !lucid | aweoms
[00:11] <delpassion> Hey hey
[00:11] <Typos_King> noscript? hehe
[00:12] <Typos_King> awaoms:  what's that addon for?
[00:12] <acicula> disables javascript
[00:12] <aweoms> firefox
[00:12] <GeekSquid> aweoms: Lucid is not out yet, support in #ubuntu+1
[00:12] <Typos_King> disables js.heheh, good luck with that
[00:12] <acicula> well it lets your selectively disable javascript
[00:12] <aj00200> aweoms: through addons.mozilla.org?
[00:12] <aweoms> yes
[00:12] <acicula> Typos_King: actually it is pretty awesome
[00:13] <Typos_King> aweoms:     you can disable css/java/cookies/flash   why not do the whole shabang? why just js?
[00:13] <aweoms> it is.
[00:13] <acicula> Typos_King: there'd be a lot less malware floating around if people had their javascript off by default ;)
[00:13] <delpassion> I'm curious , anyone out there know a good way to spice up the visual effects in 9.1 more so then just setting it to extra?
[00:13] <aj00200> aweoms: just use the normal version, not the RC. Addons ofter break in RC's and betas...
[00:13] <Azelphur> delpassion: install simple ccsm from the software center, it adds an extra option
[00:13] <acicula> delpassion: err yeah there is a compiz plugin settings/manager thing/tool
[00:14] <Typos_King> acicula:   ahhh, such a myth and superstition, being a js coder myself, that's like saying 'wear a face mask and you won't get the flu'
[00:14] <delpassion> thx :D
[00:14] <Ben64_Lappy> I messed with my partitions last night, increased root partiton, deleted /boot, moved /boot onto the root partition, and now i get grub error 22... how to fix?
[00:14] <MrDowntempo> I have USB speakers. When I turn my volume all the way up in ubuntu, the speakers go all the way up. When I go down 1 click, the speakers go down like 50% and they are nigh inaudible one click lower. So even though my volumn bar is 80% full my speakers get turned all the way off. I've used another set of USB speakers and I get the same results.
[00:15] <aweoms> i could but i'd rather have noscript cause it takes care of all that plus allowes me to have certian site to be https always
[00:15] <ywgx> 我要去上课了，数据结构（I will class ,Data Structure in C ++)
[00:15] <aj00200> aweoms: I mean, use a stable Firefox build, not RC.
[00:16] <ywgx> software college Northeastern University(china)
[00:16] <aweoms> isn't firefox 3.6.3 stable on linux? or are you saying use stable ubuntu
[00:16] <Pici> !zh | ywgx
[00:17] <sebsebseb> aweoms: later Firefox will be in  Ubuntu 10.04 releaed this Thursday
[00:17] <ywgx> thanks
[00:17] <Typos_King> aweoms:    eithe way, I'd advise against it, is overrated and overhyped, btw, if you run Lynx that'll set you up I guess, as much as if you don't want car accidents, don't drive a car, but hey
[00:17] <acicula> Typos_King: nearly all browser based or pdf vulns were exploitable either via js or by massaging the memory layout via js. admittedly you could use any programming language to do that
[00:18] <Alcor> everybody get the last 3 updates?
[00:18] <theJKH> Anybody here use the Acer Aspire One netbook with Ubuntu?
[00:20] <W43372> I just reinstalled wallpaper-tray and now I can't find it from the 'add to panel' menu.
[00:21] <aj00200> Can anyone give me some advice on installing tortoise HG. It says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: mercurial (>= 1.4)", but I have a newer version. Downloading an older version of mercurial doesn't work either
[00:21] <acicula> aj00200: what ubuntu version are you using?
[00:21] <aj00200> 9.10
[00:21] <dhart> Hey, I have some blog content at http://www.kzenpragmaticist.org/search/label/Ubuntu that I think is worthy of inclusion on http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ - who should I ask about this?
[00:22] <aweoms> what should the permission on /home/username supposed to be like?
[00:22] <acicula> aj00200: how are you installing toroise?
[00:23] <Typos_King> acicula:    sure, sooooo, how do you 'work' that out?   uninstall all browsers? remove all parsers? I mean, car accidents are part of driving, if don't want them I drop the car I guess, however that also drops my commuting too, soo is a trade off, like anything, I'm willing to acknowledge rather than criminalize
[00:23] <tsimpson> dhart: send an email to news@ubuntu.com
[00:23] <dhart> tsimpson: cool thanks I'll do that
[00:23] <aj00200> acicula: I've used the installers off of http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/tortoisehg/download
[00:23] <aj00200> Acicula: and from source on the last version of Ubuntu
[00:24] <acicula> aj00200: well you need to get the dependency from somewhere seems ubuntu 9.10 only goes up to 1.3.1
[00:25] <aj00200> acicula: you mean for mercurial or tortoise.
[00:25] <acicula> mercurial
[00:26] <W43372> I just reinstalled wallpaper-tray and now I can't find it from the 'add to panel' menu.
[00:26] <aj00200> acicula: ok. I just got the version of mercurial with apt-get. So how do I get tortoise to work with the older version
[00:27] <acicula> aj00200: well you could force it , but the lib may be just to old
[00:27] <acicula> im sure dpkg has an ignore dependencies and install anyway flag
[00:28] <eurythmia> I'm running karmic on my laptop, and I have the laptop plugged in, and plugged in to an external monitor. I would like to close the lid on my laptop, but the power saving features don't offer me the option of "doing nothing" when I close the lid on my laptop, the next best solution is "blank screen," but that blanks the external monitor as well ... any ideas?
[00:28] <aj00200> aciculd: well, where would I find a version to work with 1.3?
[00:29] <Typos_King> acicula:    dpkg  usually installs anyway usually, with a warning about the dependency and that no configuration was set
[00:30] <Typos_King> aj00200:    that doesn't mean the app will work without it
[00:30] <W43372> ?
[00:30] <haavaros> Hi! My USB mouse has jitter lag. How do I establish whether its USB lag, or the mouse dying?
[00:30] <acicula> aj00200: well if there is a version that works with 1.3.1 the tortoise website would be a start, or maybe look if they package the app for ubuntu specifically?
[00:30] <aj00200> acicula: ok. I'll check and see if I can find that. Hopefully...
[00:32] <midgetspy> i have a ubuntu 8.04 system that hasn't been touched since it was installed. what're the chances apt-get upgrade does something bad?
[00:33] <acicula> midgetspy: midgetspy wait a few days so you can upgrade to the next lts
[00:33] <jrib> midgetspy: slim to none
[00:33] <acicula> oh nvm, upgrade doesnt touch distribution level
[00:34] <midgetspy> acicula: it should just upgrade the packages within 8.04, right?
[00:34] <node357> hi, I logged in today and my volume control is gone, but i still have sound. I tried to re-add the volume control but it's not longer on the list, wihch i guess means gnome thinks its still there... what can I do?
[00:34] <acicula> midgetspy: correct
[00:35] <acicula> midgetspy: you need to do-release-upgrade or update-manager-d(GUI) to update to a new release
[00:35] <jrib> node357: what ubuntu version?
[00:35] <node357> 9.10 i think
[00:35] <jrib> !version | node357
[00:36] <node357> jrib, it says Ubuntu 9.10
[00:36] <node357> thank for that command, didn't know about it
[00:37] <acicula> Typos_King: the idea about noscript is to only selectively disable javascript, i have it on for my standard sites, but off for google, ad pushers etc
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> midgetspy, if you wait until after Thursday you can upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 directly
[00:38] <eurythmia> hm ... i've got i tfigured out ... it envolved using gconf-editor to change the settings for power-manager-gnome, because the "nothing" option isn't available in the gui.
[00:39] <node357> jrib, I was here yesterday asking how to get rid of pulse audio because it was making loud distorted noises... I uninstaled the pulse audio packages.. did that ruin the volume mixer, too?
[00:39] <sebsebseb> midgetspy: 8.04  will be better than 10.04 in certain ways,  also apparantly a new LTS isn't that stable untill at least a point release.  8.04 will run out of support on the desktop April next year
[00:39] <plum> wow, that worked better than i expected
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> node357, if you're missing the volume control from the panel - this is normal if you've removed Pulse
[00:40] <eurythmia> speaking of which ... food for thought here, isn't the way gnome configuration is done exactly one of the problems that's wrong with windows? If an obscure option isn't available in a gui, you have to go hack around in some central "registry" of configuration options?
[00:40] <plum> i found out where there is an option to create a /boot and used a partition on /dev/sda for it. now i can boot up fine without my sdb
[00:40] <node357> ZykoticK9, so I can have distorted sound or no volume mixer :(
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> node357, just the built in Gnome panel mixer is affected
[00:40] <midgetspy> sebsebseb: it's a server which is longer, correct?
[00:40] <jrib> eurythmia: no. It's the applications responsibility to expose configuration options to the user.  gconf is more than just a place with hidden settings
[00:41] <jrib> 's
[00:41] <acicula> eurythmia: well the amount of configuration options far exceeds the amount of checkboxes that can be put on the screen
[00:41] <aguitel> sebsebseb, think about the next LTS is based in debian sid (unstable release)
[00:41] <node357> okay, thanks jrib and ZykoticK9 .. I will find another mixer to use
[00:41] <sebsebseb> midgetspy: yes the server version's of a LTS release get five years of support
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !lts | midgetspy
[00:42] <eurythmia> jrib, that doesn't disagree with what I said ... except for the part about gconf-editor being more ... how is it more (not trolling, just curious)
[00:42] <eurythmia> acicula, I do agree ... but drop-down menus shouldn't exclude options ;)
[00:42] <jrib> eurythmia: but gnome configuration is done through apps in the menus :/
[00:42] <SoLiTuDe> How to let apache2 reconfigure itself to its default values and rebuild its default files?
[00:43] <node357> now my shortcut keys for volume up/down don't work either
[00:43] <savid> Hi, my network-manager applet is confused.  when my hardware wireless switch is turned ON,  the "wireless networks" box is grayed out.  When I turn my hardware wireless switch OFF, the wireless networks box is enabled and checked, but can't find any networks.  What gives?
[00:43] <eurythmia> jrib, gnome-power-manager is one of them, but the gui lacks options, and hence, gconf-editor is required.
[00:43] <acicula> SoLiTuDe: remove with --purge and reinstall?
[00:43] <jrib> SoLiTuDe: purge the package responsible for whatever file it is you want to reinstall
[00:43] <jrib> eurythmia: right, that means work needs to be done on gnome-power-manager to expose them to the user
[00:43] <SoLiTuDe> Mmm oki thx.
[00:44] <SoLiTuDe> One more question, does it reconfigure /etc/apache2 too ?
[00:44] <kennyG> night folks!
[00:45] <jrib> SoLiTuDe: what is "it" in your sentence?
[00:45] <kennyG> I did choose to hide my main top menu. I wonder ho do I show it back?
[00:45] <eurythmia> jrib, this is true ... unfortunately, it's an option that was there before, so this is a regression ... also related to bug 390816, which apprently there is no intent to fix at the moment :/
[00:46] <dominicdinada> I have a question
[00:46] <eurythmia> !ask | dominicdinada
[00:47] <kennyG> could someone help me on that please?
[00:48] <eurythmia> !ask | kennyG
[00:48] <kennyG> I did choose to hide my main top menu. I wonder ho do I show it back?
[00:49] <rabidweezle> Umm, I downloaded lucid lynx rc I *thought*, I set to 64 bit download and I get/install karmic...
[00:49] <kennyG> eurythmia, got it ?
[00:49] <eurythmia> kennyG, one approach is to do "rm -rf ~/.gnome2" then log out and back in ... but that's rather heavy handed ... it will remove *all* of your gnome, and gnome application settings.
[00:49] <rabidweezle> is there a way I can update to lucid?
[00:49] <jrib> rabidweezle: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[00:49] <eurythmia> rabidweezle, google it.
[00:49] <ZykoticK9> !panels | kennyG
[00:50] <jrib> eurythmia: try not to do that, just point them in the right direction at least
[00:50] <kennyG> How do I open Teminal without main menu?
[00:50] <eurythmia> ZykoticK9, did not know about that ... looks much better.
[00:50] <jrib> kennyG: double click on /usr/bin/gnome-terminal in nautilus I guess.  Or alt-f2, gnome-terminal
[00:50] <eurythmia> jrib, sorry, I know that the answer is available on the wiki ... a simple google search ... I'll keep +1 in mind for next time.
[00:51] <kennyG> ok, I will try that right now. Thank you guys!
[00:51] <eurythmia> jrib, I was on the Alt-F2 ... guess you type faster than me ;)
[00:53] <mado> hello everyone ... i assume at least some of you folks know the game "gtkatlantic" ? ... i wanted to know the following thing ... i saw it on a website ... and the source-code can be downloaded there too ... can you tell me what i have to do to compile it for two different windows-machines?
[00:54] <sebsebseb> !windows | mado
[00:54] <mado> sebsebseb: that's a "windows"-issue?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> mado: if you want to install a program on Windows,  sure
[00:55] <dhart>  tsimpson: my message to news@ubuntu.com bounced...
[00:55] <mado> i thought compiling and source-code relate to linux :)
[00:55] <mado> sebsebseb: i see *nods*
[00:55] <eurythmia> mado, if you want to be *really* technical, it's a toolchain issue ... you need to learn how to use one ... but it is definitely more of a "windows" problem thant a linux one.
[00:55] <tsimpson> dhart: sorry news@lists.ubuntu.com
[00:56] <mado> eurythmia: i see ... ok ... but i will stay in here too to ask you something about ubuntu soon too :)
[00:56] <Danak> hey guys, odd question but can anyone help me with Windows 7? :D
[00:56] <eurythmia> mado, they would be better able to help you set up and use the toolchain to compile the game, and the appropriate libs.
[00:56] <eurythmia> Danak, if it's not about wubi, no.
[00:57] <eurythmia> :P
[00:57] <Danak> :(
[00:57] <mado> and what do i have to do to compile it for a computer running ubuntu? eurythmia sebsebseb
[00:57] <sebsebseb> !compile | mado
[00:58] <tsimpson> dhart: actually it's not even that :p
[00:58] <tsimpson> dhart: ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com
[00:59] <mado> ok ... thank you sebsebseb ... i'll have a look at it a bit later ... if i run into some problems i'll have to ask in here again
[00:59] <sebsebseb> mado: ok np
[00:59] <mado> sebsebseb: it's because i'm all new to all this :)
[01:00] <eurythmia> mado, well, welcome ... hopefully we'll have you up to speed soon ;)
[01:00] <nawk> It appears the two Window Managers (default Metacity, and Compiz) are working whenever they feel like
[01:00] <merlin2049er> hey , how do i figure out if i've got the 32 or 64 bit os installed?
[01:00] <sebsebseb> mado: That's what I thought
[01:01] <nawk> merlin2049er, uname -a
[01:01] <soreau> nawk: If you set to normal or extra then relogin, does the settings stick? If not, you might have a permissions issue in ~/.gconf*
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> merlin2049er, uname -m is a little easier
[01:01] <ray_> hi
[01:01] <ray_> has any one used wubi?
[01:01] <soreau> ! hi | ray_
[01:01] <soreau> ! wubi | ray_
[01:01] <mado> what do you mean eurythmia ?
[01:01] <merlin2049er> thanks
[01:01] <ray_> soreau have you used it i know what it is
[01:02] <merlin2049er> anyone using teamviewer for ubuntu
[01:02] <ray_> and dose it work on windows 7
[01:02] <nawk> soreau, the symptom is that on my first login, after bootup, the mouse keys, windows, and some keyboard features fail to respond as if the Window Manger is dead
[01:02] <eurythmia> mado, just a little joking around ... partially ... getting *really* into linux takes some time and some effort, but hopefully, with some help and some aptitude, it won't take you long to get comfortable with things.
[01:03] <ZykoticK9> ray_, i don't use WUBI, if it doesn't work on Win7 you could use VirtualBox instead.  But a native install is better then both of these options.
[01:03] <nawk> soreau: the problem seem to go away after I relogin
[01:03] <eurythmia> tee-hee ... aptitude.
[01:03] <ray_> zy o ok
[01:03] <nawk> soreau: i.e., restart /etc/init.d/*dm
[01:04] <felon> i really like devede for replacing convertxtodvd for windows, i think it acualy does a better job creating images, then burn it with brasero. does a job job
[01:04] <mado> well eurythmia ... i have used ubuntu already a bit ... and i do like it ... i just hope the new version runs better than the old one
[01:04] <eurythmia> mado, from what I've seen, it's nice. I'm looking forward to the release so that I can install an LTS release on my laptop.
[01:05] <eurythmia> with gnome2-globalmenu and docky, ubuntu is great :)
[01:05] <nawk> soreau: I have a feeling you could help me out.  I was in xorg just now, and they couldn't help me with this.  another related oddity I want to share is that, whenever I come back from a screen-saver session, "visual effort" falls back to "None" mode
[01:05] <eurythmia> ... not to mention the 25" monitor ... it makes my eyes bleed with pleasure.
[01:06] <luis_> anybody in here have issues with the preyproject software and ubuntu not being able to get verified
[01:06] <felon> wiithon also for linux for managing wii WBFS formated flash drives and HDDs, works wonderful
[01:07] <nawk> soreau: can you elaborate on the permission issue with ~/gconf*
[01:07] <nawk> ?
[01:07] <hajmola> my GTK themes don't change the window colors when I try switching themes? It's stuck on dark?
[01:07] <Alcor> merlin2049er Do a sudo lshw and look at second line from top...
[01:07] <mado> eurythmia: well ... i haven't seen the new version yet but the thing is ... i only have this laptop here ... and i had some problems with e.g. starting ubuntu 9.10 ... but i can't tell you now about those ... it's a bit to much at the moment ...
[01:08] <felon> point being ive found excellent alternatives for my windows applications.
[01:08] <luis_> does anybody in here have their preyproject.org software running in their machine
[01:09] <eurythmia> mado, ah, yeah ... I adopted 9.10 during the beta phase ... there were, of course, plenty of growing pains, but most things are now worked out.
[01:09] <mado> also this er ... start up problems because of e.g. slower hard disks and some stuff like that?
[01:10] <Daughain> mado: I have 9.10 both 32 and 64 bit, and have yet to have a problem I didnt cause.=)
[01:10] <hajmola> anyone know why my GTK themes don't change? The window decoration changes but not the actual windows...
[01:11] <nawk> soreau: can you elaborate on the permission issue with ~/gconf*
[01:12] <rolsworth> how do you disable password after resume sleep
[01:12] <nawk> Does anyone know about a GDM/Window Manager issue caused by permission with ~/gconf*?
[01:13] <lois[pac]> there is a directory named "~" inside my ~/ which keeps reappearing even after I delete it
[01:13] <rolsworth> how do you disable password after resume sleep
[01:14] <lois[pac]> I can delete it by dragging it to the trash via nautilus, but it keeps coming back
[01:14] <lois[pac]> I'm using nautilus-elementary
[01:14] <eurythmia> !patience > rolsworth
[01:15] <lois[pac]> anyone have pointers?  I'm having a hard time searching for stuff that has "~" on google
[01:15] <dominicdinada> !ask I am using ubuntu 9.10 and decided to give the kubuntu-desktop a try
[01:15] <eurythmia> lois[pac], 0xfeac8872, 0x800d23c, 0xdddd87ff ...
[01:15] <dominicdinada> !ask question
[01:16] <dominicdinada> I have a question?
[01:16] <acicula> dominicdinada: just ask
[01:16]  * eurythmia facepalms
[01:16] <Hillshum> !ask | dominicdinada
[01:16] <eurythmia> Hillshum, that's what confused him/her/it in the first place ... they assumed that !ask was how you asked a question.
[01:17] <dominicdinada>  I am using ubuntu 9.10 and decided to give the kubuntu-desktop a try so when i opened up kubuntus kde all of a sudden my ndiswrapper does not work for my bcm4306 which worked in ubuntu
[01:17] <puff> Hm, should /var/log/cupsd be -rw-r-----?
[01:17] <Matson> for some reason, after following the disrections, apache is still not gziping content
[01:17] <Matson> I have mod_deflate
[01:17] <Matson> it has a load and a conf link
[01:18] <Matson> but its still not working
[01:18] <dominicdinada> so when I look for the interfaces i do not have access to the wlan0-2 interfaces nor my ndiswrappers
[01:18] <acicula> puff: directories need to be +x to be readable
[01:18] <Matson> any suggestions on how to debug this?
[01:18] <acicula> puff: well to be traversable
[01:18] <eurythmia> acicula, are you *sure* ?
[01:18] <Daughain> dominicdinada: #kubuntu might help you more.
[01:19] <acicula> eurythmia: chmod -x /tmp and try running an ls
[01:19] <eurythmia> acicula, on it :)
[01:19] <dominicdinada> ok now at the same token when i login to the ubuntu gnome desktop it also killed my wlan interfaces as well
[01:20] <eurythmia> acicula, is it okay if I paste you 3 lines of output in a pm?
[01:20] <bsmith093> how do i reset or recover my private key passphrase
[01:20] <acicula> sure
[01:20] <eurythmia> it looks like youre *sort of* right.
[01:20] <eurythmia> :)
[01:21] <eurythmia> might be a bug in ls
[01:21] <acicula> eurythmia: now run ls foo/3
[01:21] <acicula> err foo/2
[01:21] <bruce> not familiar w/ xchat. how can i tell if people are actually logged onto a channel if there's no typing going on? i logged into irc.freenode.net/tryton and there are users listed, but no one's typing or answering my questions...
[01:21] <bsmith093> i have the keypair i just  can't for the life of me remember the password to access it to be able to decyrpt or encrypt or sign things
[01:21] <eurythmia> ahh ... interesting. That is definitely not the behaviour I would have expected ... I wonder if it does that on my qnx box ...
[01:21] <Bodsda> bruce: only by querying individual users idle times afaik
[01:22]  * eurythmia makes a note to try that in qnx when he gets to work in the morning.
[01:22] <ennui> whats the nickserv command to have my nickname password emailed to the email address associated with it?
[01:22] <bruce> Bodsda...afaik?
[01:22] <wyclif_> I need help, I can't boot a lappy I just installed Karmic on. I have access to the grub prompt, but not much else.  I've read the grub documentation and also the "can't boot" thread on ubuntuforums, anybody?
[01:22] <lois[pac]> bruce, "as far as i know"
[01:22] <Bodsda> bruce: sorry, as far as I know
[01:22] <dominicdinada> ennu /nickserv help
[01:22] <bruce> thx. that makes sense.
[01:23] <Bodsda> ennui: I dont know myself, but the guys in #freenode would be able to help
[01:23] <bruce> is there anyone here that knows anything about a program called Tryton?
[01:23] <wyclif_> The error I get when trying to boot is "error: no such device" then what appears to be a UDMI string
[01:23] <Alcor> puff u still here?
[01:24] <dominicdinada> hmmm no one in kubuntu is answering :(
[01:24] <bruce> hmm. guess not. thx for your help, tho.
[01:25] <root_> what's up?
[01:25] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: what's the question I'll try to answer
[01:25] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: be patient
[01:25] <Alcor> do servers still split?
[01:25] <eurythmia> !root > root_
[01:25] <jef91> Howdy all, I have samba setup on two of my computers running 9.10 and when I share a folder on one system the second cannot see it - both of them are connected to the same network. Any suggestions?
[01:25] <Bodsda> Alcor: yes
[01:25] <IdleOne> Alcor: yes, not as often as they used to but yes
[01:25] <root_> starting to learn ethical hacking for my college course
[01:26] <Alcor> thx
[01:26] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: I'm running kubuntu 9.10 now
[01:26] <eurythmia> root_, oops ... wrong message ... sorry ... it's a bad idea to be root on irc.
[01:26] <IdleOne> !ot | root_
[01:26] <dominicdinada> ok
[01:26] <dominicdinada>  I am using ubuntu 9.10 and decided to give the kubuntu-desktop a try so when i opened up kubuntus kde all of a sudden my ndiswrapper does not work for my bcm4306 which worked in ubuntu
[01:26] <dominicdinada> so when I look for the interfaces i do not have access to the wlan0-2 interfaces nor my ndiswrappers
[01:26] <dominicdinada> ok now at the same token when i login to the ubuntu gnome desktop it also killed my wlan interfaces as well
[01:26] <Alcor> puff you still here?
[01:26] <root_> how do I learn about more about Back Track 4?
[01:26] <dominicdinada> remote-exploit.org ?/??
[01:26] <IdleOne> root_: /join #backtrack-linux
[01:27] <dominicdinada> oh lol
[01:27] <SvendJolly> Hi guys. Does anyone have any experience with activating the optical output (SPDIF) on my soundcard? Im a linux greenie. Please msg me, and i will tell you more about my problem
[01:27] <IdleOne> root_: I suspect you will be told about running irc as root
[01:27] <Bodsda> IdleOne: or shown :)
[01:27] <dominicdinada> I tried bt4 but was not very impressed with it myself
[01:28] <root_> I'm a Windows to Linux refugee
[01:28] <Bodsda> root_: unless you have a support question relating to Ubuntu, can you take refuge in the offtopic channel please
[01:28] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: so you've got both ubuntu and kubuntu installed and you switch between them on boot.. when you do that it typically asks or there's a place to "tick" that says something to the effect of "run kubuntu with a gtk backend (or gnome) or something to that effect".. if that's the case try running either with the matching backend and see what happens.
[01:28] <root_> still learning how to do that @ Bodsda
[01:28] <Alcor> I am not going to Windows 7, no matter what Bill says...
[01:29] <IdleOne> root_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:29] <Bodsda> Alcor: please take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:30] <dominicdinada> Scunizi: ok next boot i will give it a try but the last line of my statement said now when I log into Gnome the wifi is killed as well
[01:31] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: you're probably also still using network manager.. I found issues with it on kubuntu and occationally on ubuntu.. I switched to WiCD.. much easier to deal with wireless.
[01:31] <Bodsda> dominicdinada: heh, I had something like that, I stupidly did - apt-get remove network-manager; apt-get install wicd wicd-client
[01:31] <Alcor> Can u use a wifi dongle to gain entrance into your linux box from another terminal?
[01:32] <Scunizi> Bodsda: I think that if you just intsall wicd apt automatically removes network manager
[01:32] <Bodsda> Scunizi: yeah it does... I wasnt thinking though :)
[01:32] <nawk> hi soreau
[01:32] <dominicdinada> Yes it sucks Bodsda when I first loaded 9.10 My built in wifi wasnt working and removed it by accident.
[01:33] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: you might also look at your resolv.conf..  network manager may have changed it for the worse.. or possibly it got changed when switching to kubuntu..
[01:33] <Bodsda> dominicdinada: well, all my issues were self-inflicted, but I feel your frustration
[01:33] <dominicdinada> Scunizi: I will take a look
[01:34] <dominicdinada> Actually if I recently dumped wine would that have any effect seening as though I had my bcm4306 installed through ndiswrapper to begin with ?
[01:34] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: there's another networking file that now takes over some of what resolv.conf use to.. unfortuantely I"ve forgotten what it's called :/
[01:34] <rustyknight> nite all  .  convo  well too  techy for me,  but  cheers  anyway.
[01:35] <antonio_> hey all...
[01:35] <steve__> hey
[01:35] <bsmith093> wil reimporting my backed up private key reset its password
[01:35] <antonio_> Hey Losha: have some ?'s about that cat commnd
[01:35] <joneslee85> is it true that Lucid is coming 2moro?
[01:35] <Bodsda> !countdown
[01:35] <steve__> does anyone here normalize/adjust gain on their mp3's? What program should I use??
[01:36] <joneslee85> !countdown
[01:36] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: if ndiswrapper uses wine then yes that's a possibility most likely
[01:36] <bsmith093> !countdown
[01:36] <IdleOne> !lucid
[01:36] <evilbug> steve__: don't normalize
[01:36] <Alcor> Can u use a wifi dongle to gain entrance into your ubuntu linux box from another terminal?
[01:36] <steve__> evilbug: why not?
[01:37] <evilbug> steve__: normalizing adds digital noise which is not a big deal when working with hd audio files but with a compressed format such as mp3 is quite destructive.
[01:37] <dominicdinada> Scunizi: my resolv.conf looks ok...
[01:37] <evilbug> steve__: unless you don't really care about quality too much.
[01:37] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: the other file is called /etc/networks/interfaces and should contain "auto lo" and the next line "iface lo inet loopback"
[01:37] <evilbug> my ubuntu won't boot anymore. i'm running xubuntu 9.10 with the latest generic kernel. what happens is at initial boot i now get a list of all of the installed kernels but none of them are bootable nor do they load the cmd line in recovery mode. how can i fix this?
[01:37] <steve__> evilbug: thanks a lot, I very much DO care about the quality :)
[01:37] <dominicdinada> Oh ya, Let me check that I just grabbed the wine package again
[01:38] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: there's also this how-to to possibly get you back up and running.. http://linuxers.org/howto/how-install-drivers-bcm43xx-chipset-based-wireless-cards-ubuntu
[01:38] <evilbug> steve__: sure. just turn up the volume OR use your media player to adjust gain so that every track is at a consistent level.
[01:38] <ubnuntu_giant> Hello.  I am missing my C library man pages.  How do I get them installed/found?
[01:38] <steve__> evilbug: I think that your grub settings are broken, you may need to boot a live CD, mount your directory, and find out the information required for grub
[01:39] <antonio_> so guys (and gals) I'm trying to use the cat command to join 3 files (xaa, xab, xac) via cat xaa xab xac Antonio.vdi
[01:39] <Scunizi> dominicdinada: gotta run for a while.. good luck
[01:39] <evilbug> steve__: care to run me through that a little bit?
[01:39] <dominicdinada> Scunizi: no offence but that post was more problematic than it was helpful. You would almost thing the broadcom driver library would be built into distro's considering how common they once were
[01:39] <steve__> evilbug: Ya my problem is that I burned a CD and 2 albums are lower volume than the rest.
[01:39] <antonio_> when I do this, a ton of "gibberish" gets outputed on the term screen for like 10 seconds, and then it closes down
[01:39] <dominicdinada> think*
[01:39] <dominicdinada> Scunizi: Thanks
[01:40] <Bodsda> antonio_: cat xaa > Antonio.vdi; cat xab >> Antonio.vdi; cat xac >> Antonio.vdi?
[01:40] <g-ram> anyone know what the status of 10.4 is?  is the server edition of the RC fairly stable?
[01:40] <antonio_> is that how to do it?
[01:40] <antonio_> Bodsda: is that the correct format?
[01:40] <IdleOne> Bodsda: the >> appends to end of file?
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, >> appends yes
[01:40] <metrix> after upgrading from Karmic to Lucid via apt-get dist-upgrade, my system leaves me at a shell telling me something about my uuid does not exist. any ideas on how to work around this?
[01:40] <Bodsda> antonio_: it will work - one > creates a new file with the output, two > (>>) appends to a file
[01:40] <steve__> evilbug: Boot your live CD first.  After this you will want to mount your drive... now it's hard for me to tell you what partition is your boot partition since its different system to system.  What I normally do is make a directory for each result of: ls /dev/sd* (you will be mounting partitions... such as /dev/sda1. /dev/sda2. /dev/sdb1. etc)
[01:40] <acicula> g-ram: would you like the magic 8 ball or the tarot prediction
[01:40] <wyclif_> Hi all, need help. Can't boot a lappy I just installed Karmic on. I have access to the grub prompt, but not much else. I've read the grub docs and also the "can't boot" thread on ubuntuforums, anybody?
[01:40] <Bodsda> IdleOne: yeah
[01:41] <evilbug> steve__: in that case there's nothing you can do. usually disc making apps ask you if you'd like to normalize volume at burn but once the disc is made...
[01:41] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: Bodsda thanks :) good to know
[01:41] <Bodsda> IdleOne: no worries :)
[01:41] <g-ram> acicula: I suppose I'll wait then p
[01:41] <wyclif_> the error I get when trying to boot is "error: no such device", then what appears to be a UDMI string
[01:41] <acicula> g-ram: release is tomorrow i think?
[01:41] <g-ram> it is
[01:41] <IdleOne> !lucid > g-ram
[01:41] <ZykoticK9> acicula, g-ram Thursday actually
[01:42] <Bodsda> ZykoticK9: which is tomorrow, for some of us
[01:42] <g-ram> idleone -- thanks
[01:42] <g-ram> but if it's not stable today and the release is tomorrow
[01:42] <g-ram> will it be stable tomorrow?
[01:42] <acicula> ZykoticK9: thats tomorrow for me ;)
[01:42] <ZykoticK9> Bodsda, it's probably 48 hours away from now then
[01:42] <IdleOne> Bodsda: you people from the future scare me :P
[01:43] <steve__> evilbug: after you mount it, your kernels will be in /boot (or just in one of the partitions you've mounted... you may have a separate boot partition).  They will appear as vmlinuz-2.x.xx-xx-generic or something similar
[01:43] <evilbug> steve__: does it matter if i boot up with a x64 disc? [my system is 32]
[01:43] <steve__> evilbug: make sure these are consistent with your grub config located in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:43] <acicula> g-ram: well yeah tomorrow were two days further then yesterday, lots of patching time :P
[01:43] <steve__> evilbug: it does not matter
[01:43] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, 64bit will probably not boot on a 32bit system
[01:43] <Bodsda> ZykoticK9: no! 22 hours and 16 minutes, actually :)
[01:43] <Bodsda> IdleOne: we get all the new releases first :), but we age quicker
[01:44] <ZykoticK9> Bodsda, more then that for sure, but your right about it being less the 48
[01:44] <wyclif_> Hi all, need help. Can't boot a lappy I installed Karmic on. I have access to the grub prompt, but not much else. I've read the grub docs and also the "cant' boot" thread on ubuntuforums, anybody?
[01:44] <Guest71449> How can I determine what fonts are available on my system?>
[01:44] <acicula> wyclif_: what does it say on bootup
[01:44] <Bodsda> ZykoticK9: no, its 01:44
[01:44] <metrix> guest: xlsfonts
[01:44] <wyclif_> the error I et when trying to boot is "error: no such device", then what appears to be a UDMI string
[01:44] <wyclif_> acicula: "error: no such device"
[01:45] <IdleOne> Questions about Lucid release date/time can be answer with !isitout . Please do not abuse the factoid :)
[01:45] <acicula> wyclif_: any custom install options used?
[01:45] <wyclif_> acicula: when I use the live CD I can use everything, even install software. Audio and video work fine.  I just can't boot. Argh.
[01:46] <wyclif_> acicula: no custom options at all, also nothing else on the partition...it's just a straight-up, full partition install...totally default
[01:46] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: but if i boot up a 8.10 disc although i use 9.10 does it matter? 8.10 is the only x32 i have and the system i installed is 32.
[01:46] <spongebob> Evening All :)
[01:47] <nawk> Does anyone know about a GDM/Window Manager issue caused by permission with ~/gconf*?
[01:47] <wyclif_> acicula: I have access to the grub prompt but I think I need to edit something to get it to boot, correct?
[01:47] <spongebob> With LFTP, does anyone know how I can get the final transfer speed to show on the command as apposed to the text log?
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, what are you trying to do with the LiveCD?
[01:47] <acicula> wyclif_: well i would guess its looking on the wrong device to boot
[01:48] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: my 9.10 system won't boot up anymore so apparently i need to use a livecd to fix the boot.
[01:48] <acicula> wyclif_: how have you installed ubuntu?
[01:48] <wyclif_> acicula: true. but how do I tell it via the grub prompt what to do?
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, did you fresh install 9.10?
[01:48] <wyclif_> acicula: via a Live CD
[01:48] <nawk> the issue being the Window Manager behaving as if it was dead
[01:48] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: yes.
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, to fix Grub2 issues you need a 9.10 CD!
[01:48] <mado> brb
[01:49] <kushalone> a quick question... how do I make a flash drive bootable under Ubuntu 9.10 so that I can create a Windows installer in it?
[01:49] <lois[pac]> there is a directory named "~" inside my ~/ which keeps reappearing even after I delete it. I'm using nautilus-elementary if that makes a difference... I'm having a hard time searching for "~" stuff in google so any suggestions so any suggestions would be hugely appreciated
[01:49] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: ok. so does it matter if i use x64?
[01:49] <nawk> e.g. no mouse-key response, inability to focus, select, resize a window, etc
[01:49] <wyclif_> acicula: some time ago I had Jaunty running on this same laptop, no problems
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, try it - but boot will fail
[01:49] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: i'm running a c2d but installed x32 ubuntu.
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, c2d?
[01:49] <acicula> wyclif_: well you can edit the grub boot line to point to the right disk, but since its a laptop with nothing else theres not much choice
[01:49] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: core 2 duo.
[01:50] <wyclif_> acicula: thanks, how do I do that?
[01:50] <acicula> wyclif_: just type e when in the grub men i think, think it lists possible commands at the bottom of the menu
[01:50] <wyclif_> acicula: when I look at the threads on the forums, everybody seems to be dual-booting and has issues with that, but I'm not doing that
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, which is 64bit --- hummm, i'm really not sure if 64bit LiveCD for Grub2 rescue will cause problems.  Good luck man.
[01:51] <MamboKing> hi all
[01:51] <wyclif_> acicula: yeah, I tried that. What I'm wondering is where to go from there.
[01:51] <wyclif_> acicula: that's actually where I'm stuck
[01:51] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: oh no, it's actually an upgrade from 9.04 and grub is on 1.97 beta 4.
[01:52] <poi77> Hi! I have a bootable usb stick. Can I easily create a bootable iso from it?
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, 1.97 = Grub2
[01:52] <IdleOne> !usb | poi77
[01:52] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: cool. nevermind... meh i'll make another disc.
[01:52] <MamboKing> I have a bash script that I'd like to run at startup as root, I tried adding #!/bin/bash to the top of it and then calling it from rc.local using /bin/bash /path/to/myscript.sh but the script requires that i run it as root and I think that's where its failing.  its perms are 755
[01:53] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, are you sure it's not 0.97?
[01:53] <felon> need a good algabra equation solver ... any suggestions ?
[01:53] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: i'm looking at the version number right now.
[01:53] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, ok - then ya it's grub2
[01:53] <wyclif_> acicula: I press "e" then I get thrown back to the grub menu...also...at the top of the screen I'm told I'm running grub 1.xx, but I thought it should be grub2
[01:53] <acicula> wyclif_: did you upgrade from 9.04 or fresh install?
[01:53] <MamboKing> and if I use sudo /bin/bash /path/to/myscript.sh it requires interactive keyboard input
[01:53] <poi77> IdleOne: My question is going the opposite way: someone gave me a bootable USB stick and I need to redistribute it as an iso. Is this possible?
[01:53] <wyclif_> acicula: fresh install. no upgrade
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> wyclif_, 1.97?
[01:54] <Typos_King> MamboKing:    I assume you have the wrong owner in the file, check with -> ls -l;  and change it to root -> chown root   FILE
[01:54] <wyclif_> ZykoticK9: that's correct!
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> wyclif_, that's Grub2
[01:54] <IdleOne> poi77: I am not sure but I guess you can copy the iso on the usb
[01:54] <wyclif_> ZykoticK9: ah, thanks for clarifying that.
[01:55] <poi77> IdleOne: Sorry if it's not clear. I have a bootable usb. Now I need to create a new iso for that same image. I don't have an iso already. Is it possible?
[01:55] <MamboKing> Typos_King: root is the owner, should it be something else if its to be run from  rc.local?
[01:55] <wyclif_> acicula: so I *am* running Grub2
[01:55] <lois[pac]> poi77, it should work the same way as if you were ripping a CD/DVD.  see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html
[01:55] <antonio_> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[01:55] <cori> antonio_: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[01:56] <acicula> wyclif_: dunno, all i can think of is trying a grub recovery via the rescue cd
[01:56] <IdleOne> poi77: I am not sure I can help but I think it is possible yes
[01:56] <Typos_King> MamboKing:    no..... is odd it's asking for root permission
[01:56] <ZykoticK9> poi77, i'd highly recommend you download an ISO rather then trying to create one from the USB.  You could try to cat the contents of the USB to an iso file, then md5 sum to see if it's correct - but I'm guessing it won't be.
[01:56] <wyclif_> acicula: that's what I've been trying to do. What am I supposed to enter in the CLI after I press "e"
[01:56] <rolsworth> why do some application not show up in installed software so i can uninstall them
[01:57] <MamboKing> Typos_King: the script uses device-mapper (dmsetup) to creat copy on write images from an image delta
[01:57] <rolsworth> installed opera no sign of it to uninstall
[01:57] <poi77> ZykoticK9: Thanks for the point, but the contents of the usb have been modified and so I can't start from the blank iso
[01:57] <wyclif_> acicula: like you said before, I really thought it was simply a matter of telling Grub what device to boot from
[01:57] <MamboKing> using /dev/loop and /dev/mapper require root access
[01:57] <acicula> wyclif_: well it should find it on its own during install
[01:57] <sambagirl> hi has anyone installed googlewave server here?
[01:57] <ringer> rolsworth, that depends on how you installed it
[01:58] <ZykoticK9> poi77, i highly doubt it will work, BUT  "cat /dev/to/USB > image.iso"
[01:58] <acicula> so running update-grub2 should find and add your kernels
[01:58] <Hariharakadan> Is there any way to recover a corrupted partition table? I was resizing some partitions. 1 NTFS 1 Unallocated 1 Extended with a combination of Disk Utility and Gparted in a attempt to merge the unallocated data with my extended. Now it just spits out "Failed operation" in Disk Utility and none of my partitions are to be found in Gparted.
[01:58] <antonio_> cori: no hablo espanol - much un poquito
[01:58] <Typos_King> poi77:   .iso AFAIK have a different geometric mappings for CDs, they're not usb images, so, I don't think it'll work to burn it to an optical drive, you can always distribute it as a bootable usb though :)
[01:58] <rolsworth> that mattters? weird. i downloaded it from the opera website
[01:58] <lois[pac]> rolsworth, try sudo apt-get remove opera ?
[01:58] <wyclif_> acicula: it didn't. still getting "error: no such device 6c5a6a32-3152-4a61-9924-57ad6af44"
[01:58] <rolsworth> there is nothign that lists installed apps without having to do commands
[01:59] <poi77> Typos_King: So you're saying that the following link won't work: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html
[01:59] <Typos_King> rolsworth:     opera is just 1 .deb file, and it does show for me in the kde menus after installation
[01:59] <MamboKing> antonio_: I think cori's a bot and just chose to reply to you in spanish because your nick is a popular spanish name
[01:59] <sambagirl> is Seveas working tonite?
[01:59] <acicula> wyclif_: you get that when you run update-grub in a rescue console?
[01:59] <Typos_King> rolsworth:     they have several .deb for several distributions, may be you download the wrong one, who knows
[01:59] <MamboKing> antonio_: she just said to not type in caps or you would be booted
[02:00] <acicula> wyclif_: the number  is the uuid for your disk
[02:00] <rolsworth> show where? what are you talking about
[02:00] <wyclif_> acicula: no, how do I do that?
[02:00] <Kurzweil> I hope this isn't super basic.. but any ideas why wireless networking is hit or miss on boot? Sometimes it works fine, sometimes it gets stuck on configuring interface.
[02:00] <wyclif_> acicula: rescue console? pls explain!~
[02:00] <acicula> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:00] <rolsworth> i don't think you even know what the question was
[02:00] <sambagirl> chao
[02:00] <wyclif_> acicula: Yes, the UUID.
[02:00] <rolsworth> i installed opera now i want to get rid of it. how do i uninstall it without having to use sudo commands
[02:00] <walbert> hey folks, if i download the release candidate, will it update itself to the final 10.4 once it is released, or is the only upgrade path a reinstall?
[02:00] <acicula> wyclif_: under Recovery Using the Ubuntu Alternate/Install CD it explains how to boot in rescue mode
[02:01] <rolsworth> surely ubuntu has something for this
[02:01] <acicula> wyclif_: and then run sudo update-grub2
[02:01] <wyclif_> acicula: do I need the Alternate CD, can I use the regular Live CDE for that?
[02:01] <lois[pac]> rolsworth, are you looking in synaptic package manager?
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> walbert, no update is fine -- see !final in #ubuntu+1
[02:01] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: so actually i have access to a cmd line here. initramfs. what can i do from here?
[02:02] <acicula> wyclif_: livecd should work i think
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > evilbug
[02:02] <wyclif_> acicula: will try it now in Terminal
[02:02] <rolsworth> let me check that
[02:02] <lois[pac]> rolsworth, try typing "opera" in the Quick Search box in synaptic.  does it list anything relevant?
[02:02] <walbert> when is 10.4 going to be out, anyway? that 4's really starting to ripen
[02:02] <Kurzweil> I hope this isn't super basic.. but any ideas why wireless networking is hit or miss on boot? Sometimes it works fine, sometimes it gets stuck on configuring interface.
[02:03] <IdleOne> !isitout | walbert
[02:03] <ianwizard> walbert: day after tomorrow
[02:03] <walbert> aha
[02:03] <ianwizard> #ubuntu-release-party
[02:03] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: thank you.
[02:03] <Typos_King> ?
[02:03] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, glad to help
[02:04] <wyclif_> acicula: "command not found"
[02:04] <Typos_King> rolsworth:     opera is not in the repositories, you have to download it from http://www.opera.com/download/
[02:04] <MamboKing> anyone know how to run a bash script as root from rc.local or anyother place to have it run when the system boots?
[02:04] <rolsworth> lol
[02:05] <wyclif_> acicula: sudo apt-get install grub2   ???
[02:05] <acicula> acura: no it should already be installed
[02:05] <lois[pac]> rolsworth, also try sorting it by package name if the list is huge (which I think it is for opera)
[02:05] <ianwizard> I know this is the wrong place to be asking, but this room is usually filled with smart people :P .
[02:05] <ianwizard> I was watching Enemy of the State yesterday, and they used one of those "things" that acts like a hotel key card, and brute forces the code on the door.  I was wondering what those are called, so I could google how they work, I've been trying through out the day with no luck.  Anybody know what to call one of those things?
[02:05] <IdleOne> rolsworth: the way Synaptic works is that it manages the .deb packages in the repositories. If you installed an app by compiling it Synaptic does not know.
[02:06] <lois[pac]> IdleOne, but if he installed with a .deb it should show up, right?
[02:06] <wyclif_> acicula: thanks a lot for the advice, will poke around and see if I can fix it
[02:06] <rolsworth> so basically there is nothing with a gui to unnstall it then
[02:06] <acicula> wyclif_: can you try booting with the livecd and at the boot prompt select recovery or recover a broken system ? did you get the option to slect a root device during boot?
[02:07] <ringer> rolsworth, as I said - it depends on how you installed it
[02:07] <rolsworth> deb file from opera.com
[02:07] <IdleOne> lois[pac]: I think it might yeah
[02:07] <xangua> rolsworth: open synaptic and search it
[02:07] <Typos_King> rolsworth:     sudo dpkg -P opera;     simple
[02:08] <rolsworth> there is nothing that says anything about opera in that program
[02:08] <walbert> ianwizard:  (i'd hope) you'd call it an imaginary plot element... according to wikipedia, magnetic strip cards have something on the order of 360 bits per inch; that's a lot of brute forcing for something that's meant to read at the speed of a human wrist
[02:09] <ringer> rolsworth, I just googled the words 'ubuntu uninstall opera' and guess what popped up?
[02:09] <satisfiedguy43> can someone help me with monodevelop on ubuntu 9.1
[02:09] <lois[pac]> rolsworth, easiest if you just go with Typos_King's command. in any case you have to type in your password, not much easier through the GUI :-/
[02:09] <rolsworth> dude i am not trying to install opera
[02:09] <ianwizard> walbert: I've seen people hook up their Ipods and open it with a pre recorded. keycode.
[02:09] <Typos_King> rolsworth:     sudo dpkg -P opera;     is to Purge, or remove in ful
[02:09] <rolsworth> ok just wanted to see if there was a simple way to uninstall stuff without goign to that terminal
[02:10] <walbert> ianwizard: prerecorded and brute-force are two different things :p
[02:10] <Typos_King> rolsworth:     either way, if it's installed it'll show under -> dpkg -l | grep -i opera
[02:10] <lois[pac]> rolsworth, go forth and rock that terminal! :D
[02:10] <satisfiedguy43> what's a good c# package for ubuntu?  monodevelop is the only one?
[02:10] <ianwizard> walbert: I know, but still, it SHOULD be possible.  It's just a matter of figuring out how...
[02:10] <ringer> Typos_King, I think rolsworth only likes gui - seems he doesn't like to use the terminal
[02:11] <rolsworth> i kind of find havng to use a terminal in 2010 to do basic stuff to be a bit lame
[02:11] <cretsiah> hello, could some1 tell me why this command isnt allowed "sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/old-interfaces"
[02:11] <rolsworth> you don't hear anyone using dos in win anymore
[02:11] <britany_okla> I need to copy a dvd in vob format to avi or something else other than vob its highschool basketball games for scholarship no copywrite
[02:11] <johnyO> I have a internal card reader that I need to remount because of the "remove device safely option"  what command do I use to remount it
[02:11] <britany_okla> can you recommend some software
[02:12] <walbert> ianwizard: for a 2.5" card you're talking 8.4 * 10^270 possible combinations...  that's over 3 times as many ... atoms... exist.
[02:13] <britany_okla> anyone who can help me would be appreciated
[02:13] <vernr> could anyone please tell me how to turn off "strict checking" in openssh?
[02:14] <powertool08> vernr: There is probably a setting in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:14] <walbert> or hell, i said that wrong, that's over a gogol times as many atoms exist... it's over a gogol gogol times
[02:14] <bloodrock> britany_okla, might try the avconvert scripts for nautilus
[02:15] <britany_okla> bloodrock will it work with vob files
[02:15] <snowhouse> My friends Ubuntu software center will let im browse programs but there is not a button for downloading any reason for that?
[02:15] <bloodrock> britany_okla,  i think so
[02:18] <xangua> snowhouse: there is an 'install' button
[02:18] <snowhouse> he doesnt have one
[02:18] <johnyO> snowhouse, can he use synaptic?
[02:18] <dominicdinada> Back with a few more questions
[02:18] <snowhouse> he doesnt have it..
[02:18] <ringer> snowhouse, perhaps he doesn't have permission. Try system > administration > Users & groups
[02:18] <snowhouse> he just installed
[02:19] <johnyO> snowhouse, it comes with ubuntu
[02:19] <britany_okla> bloodrock can i message u
[02:19] <snowhouse> hes using the admin account, he installed it off a live cd
[02:19] <snowhouse> oh i dunno if he can then
[02:19] <Guest39421> is there a host file in ubuntu like in windows?
[02:20] <funkyHat> Should the syntax in this example work generally, or is it something specific to the ubuntu-mozilla-daily ppa? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Pinning%20the%20ubuntu-mozilla-daily%20PPA
[02:20] <bloodrock> britany_okla, looking up if it will convert vob
[02:20] <dominicdinada> What other programs for disk management does ubuntu have... I notice the package manager and janitor..... but my hard drive space is eroding away and never returning
[02:20] <SvendJolly> i have just installed Kmix. How do i run it?
[02:20] <snowhouse> where is it/what is it under
[02:20] <funkyHat> Specifically the Pin: release o=LP-PPA-[ppname] bit
[02:20] <xuli> domicinada: Pampliset
[02:20] <[-jon-]> what encryption is used for passwords in the shadow file? straight md5?
[02:20] <magic_ninja> how do i tell if a dvd/cdrw drive is detected
[02:20] <magic_ninja> its detected in bios but doesn't seem readable by any OS
[02:21] <xuli> domicinada: Palimpsest rather.
[02:21] <magic_ninja> i wanted to try with linux
[02:21] <ringer> snowhouse, reply to users by name - e.g. start your message with rin then press tab, that puts my name in for you
[02:21] <funkyHat> [-jon-]: by default sha512
[02:21] <dominicdinada> xuli: Does it search for unlinked files etc?
[02:21] <dxc> why not have a try
[02:21] <[-jon-]> funkyHat: are you sure? o_O that seems odd
[02:21] <johnyO> snowhouse, system/administration/synaptic package manager
[02:21] <funkyHat> [-jon-]: if you have an old password (i.e. have upgraded for a few releases) it might be md5 or sha256
[02:21] <funkyHat> [-jon-]: why is that odd?
[02:21] <britany_okla> i found avidemux
[02:21] <[-jon-]> oh, if it accepts multiple formats
[02:21] <[-jon-]> because I thought it would have been something oldr
[02:21] <bloodrock> britany_okla,  ok it will convert vob via ffmpeg
[02:21] <britany_okla> bloodrock i found avidemux
[02:21] <magic_ninja> how do i see if the dvdrw drive is being detected by OS
[02:21] <magic_ninja> i need a command that will give me an output/error
[02:22] <funkyHat> [-jon-]: the bit between the first $$s tells you what type of hash it is. $6$ means sha512
[02:22] <xuli> dominicdinada: I don't think so. It shows serial number, status, self-tests results. etc.
[02:22] <[-jon-]> ah, it is
[02:22] <johnyO> nobody up on the internal card readers?
[02:22] <[-jon-]> thanks
[02:22] <dominicdinada> oh :(
[02:23] <bloodrock> britany_okla, that prob do it too since most all converters use ffmpeg
[02:23] <dxc> Is there any one here Chinese ?
[02:23] <dominicdinada> But nothing to clean the drive up ?
[02:24] <britany_okla> I am new to ubuntu so easier is probably better bloodrock
[02:24] <funkyHat> !cn > dxc (Please see the private message from ubottu)
[02:24] <britany_okla> thankyou bloodrock
[02:24] <bloodrock> welcome
[02:25] <antonio_> the virtualbox channel is quite quiet now, anyone have much exp with vbox?
[02:25] <johnyO> magic I believe sudo lshw
[02:25] <johnyO> magic to see errors dmesg|less
[02:26] <ringer> magic_ninja, look in /dev/disk/by-id  does that help?
[02:26] <FireCrotch> antonio_: do you have a specific question that we can help you with?
[02:26] <magic_ninja> johny0 alright i'll check
[02:26] <magic_ninja> i'm on a usb instance
[02:26] <johnyO> antonio_ I have a little experience
[02:26] <magic_ninja> so the cdrom is showing the usb stick
[02:27] <domo> 10.04 release
[02:27] <antonio_> firecrotch: well for some reason I can't get audio working in vbox puel - I had audio working a few days ago..then ubuntu 8.04 crashed...so I backed up files and my .vdi file, reinstalled ubuntu 9.10 and then vbox..and I got the machine up and running...
[02:27] <sebsebseb> !lucid | domo
[02:27] <magic_ninja> ringer, cat or just that?
[02:27] <antonio_> Only problem is I can't get any sound - I've used all of the audio drivers in the settings in vbox - alsa, pulse, and oss
[02:27] <ringer> cd /dev/disk/by-id       ls
[02:29] <nicor_93> hi
[02:29] <berefeira> holas
[02:29] <johnyO> antonio, sorry thats beyond my limited experience
[02:29] <bloodrock> antonio_, did you try installing audio drivers in windows??
[02:29] <nicor_93> que tal?
[02:29] <berefeira> un poco borracho, but other than that, dandy ;)
[02:29] <antonio_> bloodrock: lemme try that
[02:30] <nicor_93> Jajaja muy bien
[02:30] <nicor_93> hey antonio
[02:30] <antonio_> johny0: can I pm you?
[02:30] <antonio_> hey nicor
[02:30] <nicor_93> en que te puedo ayudar?/ what can i help you with?
[02:30] <dominicdinada> wow does ubuntu mirror every single file i copy to a new location and keep a copy somewhere for me
[02:31] <johnyO> antonio, I haven't used sound through vbox so I doubt I'd be much help
[02:31] <nicor_93> well, how are you?
[02:31] <magic_ninja> well
[02:31] <magic_ninja> this drive won't read in windows or linux
[02:32] <magic_ninja> check the sata cable then i'll know its bad
[02:32] <nicor_93> Oh, that sucks
[02:32] <magic_ninja> not mine
[02:32] <magic_ninja> for a customer
[02:32] <magic_ninja> i just coudlnt' remember the command
[02:32] <dxc> Goodbye ,everyone!
[02:32] <mickster04> evenin all
[02:32] <nicor_93> bye
[02:32] <nicor_93> bye
[02:32] <Guest39421> is anyone familiar with HFS+ file systems and ubuntu?
[02:33] <nicor_93> well i think that's a no...
[02:33] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Guest39421
[02:34] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know how to install the flash plugin for firefox?
[02:34] <nicor_93> flash.. i think it can be done with ailurus
[02:34] <nicor_93> let me check
[02:35] <linux_is_my_hero> great :-)
[02:35] <sebsebseb> linux_is_my_hero: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:35] <nicor_93> Or you can do that. too
[02:35] <sebsebseb> linux_is_my_hero: or  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:35] <dominicdinada> in the software center there is a package
[02:35] <dominicdinada> or that
[02:35] <Guest39421> I have my music collection from my mac on a bootable backup/clone on a HFS+ partition of an exteral drive. I want to copy the entire folder of music to Ubuntu but I cannot. I have tried gksudo nautilus and still no joy. the error message I get is:The folder "Music" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[02:35] <ubuntu> Odd......
[02:36] <juan__> hi
[02:36] <juan__> can someone helo me
[02:36] <nicor_93> hi juan
[02:36] <juan__> hi
[02:36] <sebsebseb> !ask | juan__
[02:36] <dominicdinada> i think there is an HFSexplorer package from sourceforge.net
[02:36] <claybustr> I thought that my router was blocking everything but one port for ssh. I was running xhost + because its all local traffic. Or so I thought. A little while earlier someone got control of my desktop (it said so) and they started looking for files to let themselves back in.  If I enable remote desktop, it appears from the dialog to expose my external address, which 1) I don't want, and 2) don't see how w/ my nat box only forwarding o
[02:36] <claybustr> ne port.
[02:37] <juan__> my battery indocator on gnome shows baterry always full how can i fix it
[02:37]  * claybustr waits for the portscan flood after asking such a question in a linux channel.
[02:37] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Can you see any files / directories on the filesystem?
[02:37] <linux_is_my_hero> ouststanding...thanks for your help eevryone have a good night :-
[02:37] <linux_is_my_hero> )
[02:37] <nicor_93> bye
[02:37] <Squidy_at_Home> hello.. do you know if there is a kde version of the ubuntu one client?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> lois[pac]: ok np
[02:38] <sebsebseb> to late already gone
[02:38] <wolfwalker_prime> Well the newest Ubuntu is coming up and that means a lot of installing and downloading for me.  Is there any way to download the packages for the programs I want, save them to a disk and use that disk as the source for the rest of the installs?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> claybustr: You sure you weren'
[02:38] <W43372> I just tried using wallpaper-tray and desktop drapes and they both fail and crash when I restart.
[02:38] <juan__> and has anyone tested b43 driver without continues disconetions on lucid lynx?
[02:38] <sebsebseb> Squidy_at_Home: there isn't, but you can run Ubuntu One inside KDE
[02:38] <claybustr> weren't what?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> claybustr: ... weren't just compromized through ssh? Do you have a strong password / key?
[02:38] <wolfwalker_prime> Because I have a slow connection and it gets really, really old waiting for all the updates and programs I want installed to download every time.
[02:38] <nicor_93> wolfwalker_prime: isnt' there an app called aptoncd?
[02:39] <lois[pac]> there is a directory named "~" inside my ~/ which keeps reappearing even after I delete it. I'm using nautilus-elementary if that makes a difference... I'm having a hard time googling for "~" so any suggestions would be hugely appreciated
[02:39] <dominicdinada> Guest39421: http://www.beingmanan.com/wp/2008/07/accessing-ext3-ntfs-hfs-via-windows-ubuntu-os-x/    take a look
[02:39] <wolfwalker_prime> !aptoncd
[02:39] <wolfwalker_prime> Neat.
[02:39] <puff> wolfwalker_prime: What you want is absolutely doable, yeah.
[02:39] <nicor_93> yeah it's pretty nice!
[02:39] <juan__> and has anyone tested b43 driver without continues disconetions on lucid lynx?
[02:39] <claybustr> strong key, reasonable password and the key shouldn't have gotten out
[02:40] <claybustr> but yeah that does make more sense - that or a wifi leach, but that's a 63digit WPA2 password
[02:40] <Squidy_at_Home> sebsebseb: ok.. a kde version would be nice.. :-(
[02:40] <claybustr> I know someone was trying the wifi net a few weeks ago.
[02:40] <iflema> juan__ all test indicate avoid braodcom if ya can then they might sort their shit out........
[02:40] <sebsebseb> Squidy_at_Home: it's not likely to happen any time soon, if ever
[02:40] <Guest39421> How can I get my panels to be semi transparent?
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Squidy_at_Home: Canonical don't care that much about Kubuntu
[02:41] <juan__> sure but i have an hp mini so that aint an option
[02:41] <dominicdinada> Guest39421: Did you check the Synaptic package manager search for HFS and 3 items pop right up
[02:41] <W43372> guest394321 right click panel>properties>background
[02:41] <jrcarr2> Canonical don't care about Kubuntu people!
[02:42] <juan__> bios is locked to this wifi card
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: dominicdinada: You don't need to install any additional software to read hfs+ in Ubuntu.
[02:42] <iflema> juan__ STA driver.... install bcmwl-kernel-source and activate under hardware drivers
[02:42] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, but apparently copying from = write?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Squidy_at_Home: jrcarr2  Only two of the Kubuntu devs are from Canonical  or something like that, with the rest from the community
[02:42] <juan__> i am using that driver but cant use aircrack or kismet with sta
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: No.
[02:42] <Squidy_at_Home> sebsebseb: I recognize about that, saddly
[02:42] <juan__> it can inject under sta
[02:43] <juan__> cant
[02:43] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, I cannot copy from HFS+
[02:43] <W43372> I just tried using wallpaper-tray and desktop drapes and they both fail and crash when I restart.
[02:43] <n2diy> My printer was working, but now it isn't talking to Ubuntu?
[02:43] <nicor_93> hey does anyone recomend kazehakase as a browser?
[02:43] <Oceanus> my ubuntu keeps freezing at start up is there any way that i can reinstall it without losing my data ?
[02:43] <wolfwalker_prime> Hmmm...
[02:43] <wolfwalker_prime> !offline
[02:43] <Guest39421> nicor_93, nope
[02:44] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: If you answer my question I might be able to help you, I cannot help you without that information though.
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Squidy_at_Home:   quite a lot of other distros that are good that run KDE,  plus  there's Dropbox  similar to Ubuntu One, but cross platform
[02:44] <nicor_93> why not? guest?
[02:44] <donowan> any way to undo a cp command?
[02:44] <n2diy> Oceanus: do you have a /home directory?
[02:44] <Oceanus> yes
[02:44] <dominicdinada> Guest39421: hfsplus
[02:44] <dominicdinada> Tools to access HFS+ formatted volumes + hfsutils
[02:44] <dominicdinada> Tools for reading and writing Macintosh volumes
[02:44] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, what was your question? Im sorry
[02:44] <n2diy> Oceanus: then reinstall, and let that directory alone.
[02:44] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Can you see any files / directories on the filesystem?
[02:44] <nicor_93> i mean, my flock has just bursted into flames... and i have no browser...
[02:44] <hcook> howdy
[02:45] <W43372> I just tried using wallpaper-tray and desktop drapes and they both fail and crash when I restart.
[02:45] <Jordan_U> dominicdinada: You don't need to install any additional software to read hfs+ in Ubuntu.
[02:45] <n2diy> howdy partner
[02:45] <nicor_93> it doestn matter i just reinstalled but... it made me realize
[02:45] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, yes-I can see them, I need to copy a directory off
[02:45] <hiexpo> evening all
[02:45] <Oceanus> just reinstall like it was the first time?
[02:45] <nicor_93> yeah
[02:45] <Squidy_at_Home> sebsebseb: ok dude.. thx
[02:45] <nicor_93> well people
[02:45] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - evening at ya
[02:45] <nicor_93> i'm goin
[02:45] <Guest39421> nicor_93, just grab FF from software center
[02:45] <nicor_93> gotta school tomorrow
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Squidy_at_Home: however ever since using   Ubuntu I guess or soon after woulds,  so that's second release in 2005,  I have been mixing Gnome and KDE apps here and there,  and i'll do this with another distro as well.  I don't really understand  why certain people have a right thing, about running apps from the other desktop envirionment in their choosen one.  I am not sure if that's you, but it might be.
[02:45] <n2diy> Oceanus: yes, but, but, don't touch the /home directory.
[02:46] <jrcarr2> I used to love KDE.... it was a lot better than gnome back when I started with linux in 02/03
[02:46] <nicor_93> Bye
[02:46] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Ok, do you know the mount point? If not, can you run "mount" in a terminal and pastebin the output?
[02:46] <Oceanus> ok ty very much :)
[02:46] <jrcarr2> now KDE is pretty lame compared to gnome
[02:46] <Oceanus> night nicor
[02:46] <sebsebseb> jrcarr2: depends on the distro
[02:46] <hiexpo> jrcarr2, its all in personal pref but yes i also am a gnome guy
[02:46] <n2diy> My printer was working, but now it isn't talking to Ubuntu?
[02:47] <W43372> :(
[02:47] <sebsebseb> jrcarr2: shame KDE  3 is dieing
[02:47] <IdleOne> evening hiexpo :)
[02:48] <aj00200> I messed up the Software Center and it returns errors every time I try to install anything saying that it needs to install software from unauthenticated soruces
[02:48] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/423686/
[02:50] <W43372> I just tried using wallpaper-tray and desktop drapes and they both fail and crash when I restart.
[02:50] <hiexpo> aj00200, how'd ya manage that
[02:51] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Ok, I assume that "backup" is the drive that has the music (rather than "MyBook")?
[02:51] <aj00200> hiexpo, I think by adding a software source
[02:52] <hiexpo> aj00200, do you remember exactly what ya did
[02:52] <aj00200> I'll get it quick
[02:52] <n2diy> my printer was working, but now Ubuntu doesn't see it?
[02:53] <WetWired_ALUG> Ok, does anyone know how to change the main menu icon in karmic? It's driving me up the wall
[02:53] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, you would be correct. it is two partitions.
[02:53] <hiexpo> !karmic
[02:53] <W43372> Can someone help me solve a problem with wallpaper-tray?
[02:54] <hiexpo> !ask
[02:54] <WetWired_ALUG> Ok, does anyone know how to change the main menu icon in karmic? It's driving me up the wall.
[02:54] <Nanashi> I installed Star Wars: Knights of The Old Republic in PlayOnLinux using legitimate discs. When I try to play, I get the escuROM emulator confliction error. I don't have any sort of virtualisation running. Anyone here who can help?
[02:54] <hiexpo> WetWired_ALUG, its in themes
[02:55] <Nanashi> securom*
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Nanashi:  with game copy protection - ive often had to use no-cd-cracks for some games in wine.
[02:55] <aj00200> hiexpo: Ok, I cant ind it. Something involving ppa and debian squeeze on the commandline
[02:55] <WetWired_ALUG> hiexpo: where in themes?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Nanashi:  or check the wine app database for any other tips on that exact game.
[02:55] <donowan> no way to undo a cp command?
[02:56] <powertool08> donowan: It made a copy, just rm $file the copy you don't want.
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Ok, try running this command to copy the "Music" folder to your desktop "sudo cp -r /media/backup/Music/ ~/Desktop/" If it works you will need to do an additional step to make the files be owned by your user rather than root.
[02:56] <lorux> hello, i have a problem with ubuntu 9.10: impossible to install grub2 in a logig partition
[02:56] <Nanashi> Dr_Willis: KotOR won't normally run under Wine and WineHQ offers no help.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Nanashi:  then you are going to have to boot to windows I guess.
[02:56] <Jordan_U> lorux: Why are you trying to install grub2 to a logical partition?
[02:56] <donowan> powertool08: no, i have confused source and destination. i have overwritten new files with old ones.
[02:57] <hiexpo> NeT_DeMoN, ok right click on desktop >change desktop wall paper > theme > custimize
[02:57] <Nanashi> Dr_Willis: I'm actually doing this because my window partition went out in a blaze of glory and viruses.
[02:57] <phani> Hi ... I have wine installed on Hardy and i stored office 2007 on my desktop...Could someone know how to install it office on wine..
[02:57] <powertool08> donowan: Ah... what filesystem? ext3?
[02:57] <donowan> ext2
[02:57] <W43372> Can someone help me solve a problem with wallpaper-tray?
[02:57] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, no such file or dir
[02:58] <Jordan_U> donowan: Did you happen to have any of the new files open in an application before the cp?
[02:58] <xangua> !winehq > phani
[02:58] <xangua> why don't use openoffice phani¿
[02:58] <n2diy> my printer was working, but now Ubuntu doesn't see it?
[02:58] <lorux> Jordan_u: I have multiple distributions, I prefer install grub in a logical partition: for me it's more facil
[02:58] <donowan> Jordan_U: i know, that would have helped, at least those opened files. But unfortunately, not.
[02:58] <hiexpo> aj00200, oh geez i don't know what ya did so i am of no help hopefully someone will pick it up keep asking and good luck
[02:58] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Ok, what is the path to the Music directory within your "backup" partition?
[02:59] <W43372> Can someone help me solve a problem with wallpaper-tray?
[02:59] <aj00200> ok, hopefully someone can help
[02:59] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, how do I do it with the space? sudo cp -r /media/backup/Users/PatrickGleason 1/Music/ ~/Desktop/
[02:59] <powertool08> donowan: Good luck... :/ I'd ask in #linux too.
[02:59] <Jordan_U> lorux: If you are loading grub from grub it's better to use "multiboot (hdx,y)/boot/grub/core.img" than to try to install it to a partition, logical or otherwise
[03:00] <Schmitty> someone has loaded a sinister loadable kernel module onto my system
[03:00] <Fraxtil> Is there any reason why my X server would be running on tty1 instead of tty7? (Ctrl+Alt+F7 is blank, ''+F1 is X)
[03:00] <lorux> Jordan_U: thanks, I try that
[03:00] <Jordan_U> lorux: You're welcome.
[03:01] <erichammond> Is the new font designed for Ubuntu Lucid available for download?
[03:01] <maco> erichammond: its not even finished
[03:01] <maco> erichammond: it has, afaik: u, b, n, t, k
[03:01] <erichammond> maco: Thanks.  Perhaps it would have my letters... ah
[03:01] <Guest39421> erichammond, looks like NeoTech
[03:01] <maco> erichammond: we just got the k for kubuntu like 2 weeks ago
[03:01] <erichammond> heh
[03:01] <Jordan_U> maco: Not even 'x' or 'ed'?
[03:02] <maco> Jordan_U: im not sure if those are done yet
[03:02] <maco> Jordan_U: i know the xubuntu team has a logo, but they may have made up their own thing "for now". im pretty sure kubuntu was the first derivative to get its letter
[03:02] <erichammond> Guest39421: I'll check out NeoTech, thanks.
[03:02] <rbdyck> What is the channel for Ubuntu server? Thanks
[03:02] <maco> rbdyck: #ubuntu-server
[03:03] <Guest39421> erichammond, i dont think it is, but its similar. Neotech is heavier I believe
[03:03] <erichammond> oops, guess I should have asked in #ubuntu+1 (almost there :) )
[03:05] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: (in case you missed it) what is the path to the Music directory within your "backup" partition?
[03:06] <mickster04> anyone need help?
[03:06] <ennui> *valorie: why did you choose kubuntu over ubuntu?
[03:07] <hiexpo> ennui, must like kde
[03:07] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, (in case YOU missed it lol) how do I do it with the space? sudo cp -r /media/backup/Users/PatrickGleason 1/Music/ ~/Desktop/ i got it copying by draggin the destinations into terminal and using sudo cp -r (recursive?) and it is now copying. When it is done, do I just need to chown it to somebody?
[03:07] <ennui> hiexpo: oh so it is mostly for the desktop enviornment?
[03:07] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Wow, you even highlighted me. Sorry about that :)
[03:08] <hiexpo> ennui, yes
[03:08] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, dont be sorry. This is free tech support! lol and im learning so win win
[03:08] <W43372> Can someone help me solve a problem with wallpaper-tray?
[03:09] <carlos> hola
[03:09] <b00b> ** hi..  old dos dude, here. -- I'd like to make a couple of macros or scripts to make some shortened commands.  (ie: 'tar xvf [var]' --> 'untar [var]')  what are the different ways I could go about this?? -thx
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Yes, you need to "sudo chown -R you:you ~/Desktop/Music" but be verry carefull to get the correct directory, chown -R can be bad if used on the wrong directories
[03:09] <hiexpo> W43372, be specific about your question please you are more likely to get a faster responce and help
[03:10] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, what do I use for you:you?
[03:10] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: Your short user name, which you can find by running "whoami".
[03:10] <pat5star> Guest39421: I haven't been following the whole convo, but if you want to cp a filename that contains a space you can just escape it like so: cp -r /path/to/my/file\ with\ space.txt /destination/
[03:10] <rolsworth> anyone know how to get the netbook remix desktop after installing ubuntu? cannot find how to any where
[03:11] <mickster04> !nbr
[03:11] <W43372> hiexpo I installed wallpaper-tray and it worked just fine, until I restarted and then it crashed and I couldn't get it working again. So I removed it and decided to try desktop drapes, I had the same problem when I restarted.
[03:11] <Guest39421> pat5star, so i can just leave the space in then?
[03:11] <shayne> any one here know about WindowsXPUnderQemu
[03:11] <xangua> rolsworth: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix
[03:11] <mickster04> rolsworth: i think its just a package u can install
[03:11] <mickster04> rolsworth: like xangua said
[03:11] <pat5star> Guest39421: yes
[03:11] <Guest39421> anyone rocking transparent panels in gnome?
[03:11] <Guest39421> pat5star, thanks!
[03:12] <pat5star> b00b: look into alias
[03:12] <hololight> shayne: I use virtualbox to run windows most of the time
[03:12] <b00b> ?? how can a make a shortened command, ie: 'untar file' instead of 'tar xvf file' ??
[03:12] <hololight> shayne: easy setup
[03:12] <b00b> pat
[03:12] <b00b> thanks
[03:12] <switch10_> b00b: .bash_aliases
[03:12] <b00b> I knew I'd seen it somewhere ..
[03:12] <b00b> thanks both of ya
[03:13] <pat5star> Guest39421: yw
[03:13] <shayne> hololight: is that able to run world of warcraft?
[03:13] <pat5star> b00b: np, alias is great for what you want to do. Add as many as you want to ~/.bash_aliases
[03:14] <switch10_> b00b: alias untar='tar -xvf'
[03:14] <hololight> shayne: doubtful, as would qemu.... but wine runs wow well for me (at least in the past
[03:15] <hololight> shayne: there is very little to no support for 3d in any of the virtualization products right now
[03:15] <hololight> although there is a bit of opengl (which wow supports... or did) in at least virutalbox
[03:15] <shayne> hololight: i tried wine and it installed wine itself but evrytime i tried to install wow it wouldnt work, just lock up the installtion all the time, something with the graphics. i researched it and i can run wow using qemu
[03:16] <ConcreteRose> i have found the murderers who were financing murder plots
[03:16] <Guest39421> ConcreteRose, on Ubuntu IRC?!?!
[03:16] <hololight> shayne: i never installed wow in wine... just copied (or ran in place) from where it was installed in windows.
[03:16] <ConcreteRose> They are on cnn.com and on this network.
[03:16] <W43372> I installed wallpaper-tray and it worked just fine, until I restarted and then it crashed and I couldn't get it working again. So I removed it and decided to try desktop drapes, I had the same problem when I restarted.
[03:16] <^paradox^> i know this isnt the place to ask, but im in the middle of something and cant google for it. is there gimp channel so i can get some advice on its features?
[03:17] <Guest39421> how do I set statuses? "Looks around nervously"
[03:17] <shayne> did that work good?
[03:17] <Guest39421> W43372, #gimp
[03:17] <powertool08> ^paradox^: Did you try #gimp?
[03:17] <shayne> hololight: did that work good?
[03:17] <hololight> shayne: yeah, wine doesn't care
[03:17] <ConcreteRose> the finance of the banks militaries, etc
[03:18] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: go to #gimp @ irc.gimp.org
[03:18] <Guest39421> whoops ^paradox^ yeah #gimp
[03:18] <^paradox^> it's not on freenode eh?
[03:18] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: they are on a different channel
[03:18] <hololight> shayne: for a while i ran it in opengl mode... then at some point something changed and directx (default) ran bvetter
[03:18] <b00b> ?? I really feel like [places - search for files] isn't finding files that DO exist .. I set 'look in folder' to 'filesystem'  .. any ideas?
[03:18] <^paradox^> ok ill try it ty
[03:19] <shayne> hololight: maybe ill try installing it to a protable hardrive on a windows computer then coppying it to ubuntu
[03:19] <hololight> shayne: For the most part, you couldn't tell the difference between running it native and running it in wine
[03:19] <ConcreteRose> yes
[03:19] <ConcreteRose> :)
[03:19] <hcook> howdy
[03:19] <ConcreteRose> YDS
[03:19] <^paradox^> Odd-rationale: gimpnet is the network?
[03:19] <hololight> shayne: I had it on a second partition, but its the same idea.... remember its over 8 gigs
[03:20] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: the website says irc.gimp.org
[03:20] <ConcreteRose> :)
[03:20] <peanutpan> help!  problems with growisofs!  need to blank a dvd-rw!  but brasero won't work!  tried "growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/zero", but once this has completed about 99.9% it will give up and claim that there's an error.  i'm "super-duper" sure that there's nothing wrong with either the dvd-rw or the drive (other than being relatively cheap.  how to work around this problem?
[03:20] <hiexpo> ConcreteRose, wheres it at on cnn?
[03:20] <_|-> hi guys
[03:20] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: although, iirc, gimpnet may be an alias for the same network.
[03:20] <hololight> shayne: there are a few howto's (one in the community docs) that show some options to set
[03:20] <ConcreteRose> That man with his water glasses, its an undercover code of betrayal
[03:20] <edugonch> Hello I have a proble un my toshiba p500 with the headphones, when When headphones are plugged in, the speaker does not get muted automatically
[03:21] <ConcreteRose> Intercepted.
[03:21] <_|-> hmm
[03:21] <edugonch> I use ubuntu 10.04
[03:21] <evilbug> steve__: hey, still around?
[03:21] <Guest39421> Jordan_U, magnificent! thanks so much!
[03:21] <shayne> hololight: well i dont have a windows partition on any of my computers but my mom has it on her computer
[03:21] <^paradox^> Odd-rationale: yeh i see it in edit. why they have a whole network?
[03:21] <hiexpo> !lucid
[03:21] <Guest39421> poll! is rythmbox where its at?
[03:21] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: most of the #gnome channels are there as well...
[03:21] <Jordan_U> Guest39421: You're welcome.
[03:21] <wolfwalker_prime> edugonch, type /join #ubuntu+1
[03:22] <^paradox^> Odd-rationale: ah i see. well thnx
[03:22] <hololight> shayne: just copy the current wow directory to something and drop it in your home folder, or anywhere
[03:22] <edugonch> ok
[03:22] <Odd-rationale> ^paradox^: np
[03:23] <steve__> evilbug: yes, im in class
[03:23] <wolfwalker_prime> peanutpan, have you tried with another program?  k3b perhaps?
[03:23] <evilbug> my xubuntu 9.10 will not load anymore. it boots fine and it seems to be loading right until it's supposed to get to the login screen. at the point the screen goes black and nothing loads. how can this be fixed?
[03:23] <_|-> does ubuntu only support open licensed software like debian?
[03:23] <Penol> I got E: The package zensched needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. <------- i got that all the time, how to remove?
[03:23] <mickster04> _|-: that didnt make sense
[03:23] <Guest39421> evilbug, have you tried recovery mode?
[03:23] <hololight> depends on what you mean by support
[03:24] <darck> Cara quem ai e fam de jogos online q pode ajudar a configurar um?
[03:24] <W43372> I installed wallpaper-tray and it worked just fine, until I restarted and then it crashed and I couldn't get it working again. So I removed it and decided to try desktop drapes, I had the same problem when I restarted.
[03:24] <_|-> by support i mean in the main package repos
[03:24] <hiexpo> Penol, how'd you install it?
[03:24] <ConcreteRose> XBC, 101
[03:24] <Penol> hiexpo: with dpkg -i nameOFthepackage.deb
[03:24] <hiexpo> !es | darck
[03:24] <evilbug> Guest39421: yes, i did try reinstalling grub but not anything more.
[03:25] <mickster04> _|-: i still dont get you, try again in one sentence
[03:25] <IdleOne> !br | darck
[03:25] <hololight> I believe thare are non gpl'd packages in the main repos... but i'm not sure
[03:25] <hiexpo> oops
[03:25] <ConcreteRose> SHI 908
[03:25] <mickster04> how do u get the gloobus preview to work
[03:25] <Guest39421> evilbug, well if you get to a login screen grub should be fine afaik
[03:25] <Guest39421> evilbug, in recovery mode does it do the same thing?
[03:25] <peanutpan> wolfwalker_prime: i have not tried k3b.  it has all kinds of peculiar software dependencies so that i'd rather not have to deal with it if possible.  surely, if a program like k3b can get the job done, then there must be a more elegant solution as well?
[03:25] <Pici> _|-: In 'main' no, but in the other repositories provided by Ubuntu, there might be.  See http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components for more information
[03:26] <_|-> Pici: thanks
[03:26] <hololight> I stand corrected
[03:26] <evilbug> Guest39421: it doesn't get to a login screen, that's the thing. screen goes black right when login should show up.
[03:26] <Penol> hiexpo: how to fix?
[03:26] <ConcreteRose> fix, test
[03:26] <hiexpo> Penol, ok than its in your synaptic under obsolete go there and do a reinstall
[03:26] <Guest39421> evilbug, ah i see-even in recovery mode?
[03:26] <Penol> hiexpo: its a server
[03:26] <digilink> hello... I'm running Xubuntu 10.04 RC1, is there an easy way to enable VNC access to it remotely? Seems like I remember Ubuntu having a built-in tool to facilitate this... without having to do much manual configuration?
[03:27] <hiexpo> Penol, oh
[03:27] <evilbug> Guest39421: oh, my bad. no, in recovery mode it logs me in as initramfs saying it can't boot /.
[03:27] <hololight> Pici: I guess it would also depend on weather you want to split hairs... the restricted sources come default in the main ubuntu.... again, splitting hairs
[03:27] <wolfwalker_prime> peanutpan, elegance is not the issue.  Getting the job done is the objective, and k3b has always worked well for me.  Hence the recommendation.  Couldn't hurt to try.
[03:27] <Pici> hololight: hence why I provided the link for more information :)
[03:27] <sebsebseb> !lucid | digilink
[03:27] <Guest39421> digilink, there is "remote desktop" in ubuntu, set it as a startup program, open port 5900 on your router, and remember your ip or get a dyndns account
[03:28] <poi77> Hi! I have a usb disk that is mounted. How can I tell its /dev/ address?
[03:28] <ConcreteRose> Where can i get a new memory?
[03:28] <Penol> hiexpo: everytime i try to install a package, E: The package zpoll needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. shows up and dont let me install irssi for example.
[03:28] <Guest39421> digilink, i dont know if that is present in xubuntu, but i think its called verneir or something in synaptic, anyone ?
[03:28] <evilbug> Guest39421: what could be wrong?
[03:28] <wolfwalker_prime> poi77, I cheat:  I use gparted and look at what it calls it. :D
[03:29] <Guest39421> evilbug, have you been able to get to a terminal? can you run a sudo fsck on it?
[03:29] <hololight> poi77: type 'mount' into terminal and look at which dev is mounted as which
[03:29] <digilink> Guest39421 thanks... yep there's no remote desktop options in Xubuntu, at least none that I can see...
[03:29] <poi77> Thanks all
[03:29] <Guest39421> digilink, theres like an actual name for the thing. grrr thats gonna drive me bonkers
[03:29] <hcook> hey guys. working with thinkfinger on lucid...sudo/gksudo/gnome-screensaver are all working now. but i'm still unable to swipe to login. i ran the pam setup script, and i've looked over the /etc/pam.d files and they look good to me...anybody know what i might be missing?
[03:29] <peanutpan> wolfwalker_prime: well, if you insist, i will give k3b a go.
[03:30] <Guest39421> digilink, you can install it, if i can remember what its called. WHAT IS DEFAULT VNC THING CALLED IN UBUNTU lol
[03:30] <Guest39421> v-something
[03:30] <evilbug> Guest39421: i can load up my hdd via a livecd. run "rescue a broken system".
[03:30] <wolfwalker_prime> ...
[03:30] <hololight> peanutpan: having not payed attention to the conversation at all..... i have always used k3b and like it as being quite easy to use
[03:30] <wolfwalker_prime> !VNC
[03:30] <Guest39421> evilbug, i have never done that. does it just run an fsck?
[03:31] <ConcreteRose> Likewise
[03:31] <steve__> anyone know if you need a special touchpad to use 2 finger scrolling?
[03:31] <evilbug> Guest39421: one sec.
[03:31] <digilink> Guest39421 found it, Vino
[03:31] <digilink> thanks for the pointer ;)
[03:31] <ConcreteRose> ....
[03:31] <Guest39421> steve__, not sure. works on MBP 4,1 and dellmini9 *shrug*
[03:31] <hcook> one document said to go to system->administration->login window, then to the local tab, and set a bunch of things...but i don't have "login window" at all...i've got "login screen" but it doesn't have any tabs or any of the options mentioned in the doc
[03:31] <Guest39421> digilink, that sounds right. are you using a dynamic ip?
[03:32] <steve__> Guest39421: Mine is greyed out...
[03:32] <digilink> nope LAN only
[03:32] <evilbug> steve__: dual finger scroll works on my mac. on pcs though i've only seen scrolling on the side of the touchpad.
[03:32] <hcook> has stuff like 'Themed with face browser' and 'Selected Only' and choose 'Human List' moved to some other configuration screen?
[03:32] <IdleOne> ConcreteRose: can you please stop posting non-sensical and offtopic comments. It adds to the scroll and is not helpful.
[03:32] <Guest39421> steve__, are there prop. drivers available for your touchpad?
[03:32] <ConcreteRose> Oh really?
[03:32] <ConcreteRose> who said i was talking to you
[03:32] <steve__> Guest39421: im not sure, how can I tell?
[03:32] <Guest39421> ConcreteRose, !offtopic
[03:33] <Myrtti> hcook: since karmic ubuntu has shipped with a new gdm and so many of the tutorials don't apply anymore
[03:33] <steve__> Guest39421: nvm proprietary, got it.  ill check
[03:33] <IdleOne> ConcreteRose: you weren't. I am asking you to stop.
[03:33] <ConcreteRose> I was talking to somebody else
[03:33] <ConcreteRose> Stop stalking me
[03:33] <Guest39421> steve__, system>administrator>hardware drivers i believe
[03:33] <IdleOne> !who | ConcreteRose
[03:33] <evilbug> Guest39421: so what am i looking for by running fsck?
[03:33] <dave___> So I've got a data partition that is named Data how can I change it to 'data'?
[03:33] <peanutpan> hololight: thanks for the opinion.  i just kind of feel skeptical, i mean, if k3b was a clearly superior program, then why wouldn't ubuntu use it by default?  instead, the 'brasero' program simply doesn't work in a decent amount of situations
[03:33] <Guest39421> evilbug, are you familiar with chkdsk on windows? same idea
[03:33] <Guest39421> !fsck
[03:33] <ConcreteRose> Im not in psychiatry, this is a free internet zone.
[03:33] <wiretapped> !!
[03:34] <hololight> peanutpan: likely since k3b is qt based, not gtk
[03:34] <evilbug> Guest39421: gotcha. [haven't used windows in a while]
[03:34] <Myrtti> ConcreteRose: in fact, this is not a free internet zone and the topic is restricted to Ubuntu support only
[03:34] <IdleOne> ConcreteRose: as a matter of fact it isn't. you are bound by the Freenode guidelines. and also the Ubuntu guidelines when in Ubuntu irc channels
[03:34] <ConcreteRose> Really so what you wanna do? So what?
[03:35] <ConcreteRose> ....
[03:35] <voss749> peanut, songbird would be the dominant program if they could work through the darn bugs
[03:35] <Guest39421> evilbug, or "repair disk" on OSX
[03:35] <hololight> Isn't there an op that can handle this?
[03:35] <steve__> Guest39421: no there are none for it
[03:35] <ConcreteRose> Why dont you go shut your mouth for your sixworthpenny ass brain.
[03:35] <un214> cold tip: don't get ops mad at you
[03:35] <evilbug> Guest39421: yeah, got that :) thank you. it actually found a few things that are off and so they're being fixed now.
[03:36] <hiexpo> Myrtti,  - ban him or what ever they are
[03:36] <Guest39421> evilbug, hopefully that will be all it needs!
[03:36] <Guest39421> Myrtti, +1 for kicking Concrete Rose
[03:36] <voss749> things that Ubuntu needs that it doesnt have . An easy to use desktop publishing program that doubles as web page making
[03:36] <Myrtti> moving on
[03:37] <evilbug> Guest39421: hopefully. it did this all of a sudden. updates have been installed for quite a while so nothing should be acting up.
[03:37] <b00b> thank you all for being cool.  I'm out for the night.  peace
[03:37] <Guest39421> evilbug, sometimes it just needs an fsck every once in a while. how healthy is the HDD?
[03:37] <dave___> what's the keystroke to quit man?
[03:37] <hololight> dave: q
[03:37] <evilbug> Guest39421: it said .2% contiguous files.
[03:37] <Guest39421> voss749, like Publisher?
[03:38] <Guest39421> voss749, Adobe InDesign can make web pages, but you dont want to use it lol. I think desktop publishing and web page creation are seperate for good reason
[03:38] <voss749> guest, yep publisher is one of the few microsoft programs I find darn useful.
[03:39] <evilbug> Guest39421: no, it didn't fix the issue. does the same thing.
[03:39] <Guest39421> evilbug, did you try your live cd and "rescue" (use with caution cause i have no idea what that does)
[03:39] <Keshav> Hello. I am two internet connections. One using Wifi, and another using USB. I want to monitor the amount of download I do from each of the connections for which I need to know the name of the ethernet port. For Wifi it is eth1. Can you help me find the name for the USB connection?
[03:39] <Keshav> have*
[03:39] <voss749> Guest39421, but publisher is very good for basic web creation and basic desktop publishing. The openoffice people dont seem to understand that
[03:39] <evilbug> Guest39421: that's what i just did.
[03:39] <Guest39421> voss749, not for making webpages I hope
[03:40] <voss749> Yes I do sometimes use it to make simple web pages
[03:40] <Guest39421> voss749, sorry to hear that lol
[03:40] <voss749> Its webpages work fine with firefox
[03:40] <Guest39421> voss749, i bet they validate real nice too.
[03:41] <mickster04> how to get wireless working thru terminal, can someone point me to a good guide or guide me themselves?
[03:41] <pat5star> Keshav: ifconfig
[03:41] <voss749> Guest39421, who cares about validation. You look at the webpage in IE, firefox, safari, and opera if it looks fine its good enough
[03:41] <evilbug> Guest39421: when i try to mount / in recovery mode i get an error "cannot read /etc/fstab: No such file or directory"
[03:43] <Guest39421> voss749, and that is why people shouldnt use frontpage lol
[03:43] <poi77> How can I tell who owns a file
[03:44] <Guest39421> evilbug, is the drive old and ratty?
[03:44] <voss749> guest39421, If you have tested your page in IE, firefox, Safari and Opera youve govered about 99% of users, Iphone users can suck it ;-)
[03:44] <ConcreteRose> Threats>>
[03:44] <ConcreteRose> NSA
[03:44] <Guest39421> poi77, right click-properties
[03:44] <evilbug> Guest39421: no, it's a new laptop. bought a couple of months ago.
[03:44] <mickster04> poi77: ls -a (may be a diferent -)
[03:44] <mickster04> poi77: yeah mine is in terminal
[03:44] <Guest39421> voss749, not just iPhone, people using assitive devices, web crawlers, etc
[03:45] <hololight> poi77: on cli, ls -l shows permissions and ownership in the directory listing
[03:45] <poi77> How can I figure out what groups I am a member of?
[03:46] <Pici> poi77: type groupes on a terminal
[03:46] <Guest39421> poi77, ask the cool kids at school. theyll tell ya
[03:46] <Pici> poi77: sorry, 'groups', keyboard lag
[03:46] <voss749> guest39421, If its that important then maybe an opensource version of publisher that complied would be good.
[03:46] <Keshav> I want to monitor the usage of my internet connection. To monitor Wifi, I use the port eth1. Can someone help me find the equivalent for my USB connection?
[03:46] <hololight> 'groups'
[03:46] <Guest39421> voss749, no, publisher is the problem, not the solution lol
[03:46] <poi77> Thanks for your help
[03:46] <voss749> guest39421, Im not recoding my webpage for effin lynx users ;-)
[03:46] <poi77> How can I add my user to a group?
[03:47] <hololight> poi77: also users/groups in admin while in gnome
[03:47] <mN-Jack> wat is up?
[03:47] <Guest39421> voss749, if you use publisher you dont code a thing haha
[03:47] <thiemster> hi all
[03:47] <mickster04> how to get wireless working thru terminal, can someone point me to a good guide or guide me themselves?
[03:47] <evilbug> Guest39421: any clues?
[03:47] <un214> useradd / groupadd?
[03:47] <hololight> mickster04: wpa or wep?
[03:47] <poi77> Is it safe to add myself to the 'disk' group?
[03:48] <thiemster> mickster04: http://blog.tplus1.com/index.php/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[03:48] <Keshav>  I want to monitor the usage of my internet connection. To monitor Wifi, I use the port eth1. Can someone help me find the equivalent for my USB connection?
[03:48] <Guest39421> evilbug, it sounds like a hdd issue to me. but I know less about ubuntu than many others here. ask around, or test your hdd. do you happen to have SpinRite 6?
[03:48] <Guest39421> evilbug, best damn HDD utility ever created.
[03:48] <voss749> guest39421, true but I consider desktop publishing and web publishing the same thing just on different types of paper. HTML coding is the same to me as asking me to cue the plates on my printing press.
[03:48] <mon> Printer works on ubuntu?
[03:48] <un214> poi77: well if you want to make it easy on trojans (not that sudo doesn't anyway)
[03:48] <hiexpo> Keshav, whatapp u using to moitor
[03:48] <evilbug> Guest39421: i do not have that.
[03:48] <Keshav> hiexpo, vnstat
[03:48] <hiexpo> monitor
[03:49] <Keshav> vnstat -i eth1 gives the usage for Wifi (for me) if I am not mistaken
[03:49] <Guest39421> evilbug, sorry, I dont know of any good free alternatives :/
[03:49] <Keshav> hiexpo, I also have a USB connection and I want to monitor that
[03:49] <poi77> un214: what do you mean?
[03:50] <mon> Queria saber se qualquer impressora é compativél com o ubuntu
[03:50] <evilbug> Guest39421: alright. thanks.
[03:50] <mon> I wonder if any printer is compatible with ubuntu ?
[03:50] <Guest39421> evilbug, is getting a blank screen where the login screen should be in Xubuntu! can anyone help him? He has already ran fsck
[03:50] <Guest39421> mon, yes. lots are
[03:50] <hololight> mon: many are, i have used a few HP's without problems
[03:50] <thiemster> mon: http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[03:50] <un214> poi77: adding yourself to the disk group isn't going to harm anything ; however a well designed trojan might notice and get extra access to your harddrive
[03:50] <Guest39421> voss749, thats just silly. lol two completely different animals
[03:51] <hiexpo> Keshav, one sec my daughter just got home so i gotta talk to her
[03:51] <voss749> guest39421, Word processors before GUI used to have all sorts of character codes , noone uses character codes anymore why shouldnt treat webpages the same.
[03:51] <Keshav> hiexpo, okay. ill wait
[03:51] <infomomo> What is a nice text editor to use when doing bash scripts (colors and auto indentations) ?
[03:51] <nsadmin> emacs, vim, many many many others
[03:51] <thiemster> infomomo: vim if you have the time and patience to learn it
[03:51] <nsadmin> nano
[03:52] <infomomo> thiemster: nsadmin; i would like colors
[03:52] <nsadmin> nano is tiny and featureless
[03:52] <infomomo> nsadmin: a GUI
[03:52] <Guest39421> voss749, web pages arew dynamic, they are user interfaces and experiences. Print is static.
[03:52] <mon> hololight, I use Epson Stylus TX115 just call that automatically recognizes?
[03:52] <nsadmin> well you might get that, might not
[03:52] <infomomo> jedit ?
[03:52] <evilbug> infomomo: there's always gedit.
[03:52] <hiexpo> Keshav, http://www.humdi.net/vnstat/
[03:52] <nsadmin> perhaps a good thing is to look at packages.ubuntu.com and browse the list
[03:53] <voss749> guest39421, a web page is a publication , it is what the author intends it to be. Web pages are often static until they are updated
[03:53] <Keshav> hiexpo, does vnstat give the total usage?
[03:53] <nsadmin> I'm not going to go back and forth with you "try this one" "I don't like it, give me another"
[03:53] <foul_owl> how do you disable gnome upper right side pop ups?
[03:53] <Keshav> As in, both USB + WiFi included, if Im connected to both
[03:54] <hololight> mon: couldn't say for an epson, dont remember ever using one.... I would look at the link posted above
[03:54] <garme> Heya guys.
[03:54] <Keshav> hiexpo, As in, both USB + WiFi included, if Im connected to both
[03:54] <xangua> foul_owl: uninstalling system notification osd
[03:54] <hiexpo> Keshav, i don't know i never used it i am a wireshark guy
[03:54] <garme> I'm trying understand how is detection mechanism in ubuntu... can someone help me?
[03:54] <Guest39421> voss749, web pages dont need to be static. they arent just publications either. You can book plane ticket, buy stuff, download things, interact with people, etc
[03:54] <thiemster> infomomo: kate is good
[03:54] <Keshav> hiexpo, okay
[03:54] <Keshav> thanks
[03:54] <foul_owl> xangua: in the system menu somewhere? or do i apt-get remove something?
[03:55] <mickster04> hololight: wpa2
[03:55] <infomomo> thiemster: i heard about Kate, i will try jEdit
[03:55] <thiemster> foul_owl: to apt-get remove, just open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get remove program" where program is what you want to remove
[03:55] <nsadmin> garme: can I help? dunno, maybe not. for those who can, tell what you mean precisely by "detection". detection of what?
[03:55] <mickster04> thiemster: thanks will try that now
[03:55] <voss749> Guest39421, Most people need all that stuff on their webpage
[03:55] <voss749> dont need
[03:55] <foul_owl> i meant do i need to apt-get remove something to disable system notification osd
[03:55] <thiemster> mickster04: no problem. I'm pretty sure I used that guide a few months ago. If so, it worked really well
[03:55] <garme> nsadmin, sorry. hardware detection
[03:55] <garme> :0
[03:56] <nsadmin> ok, cool, that would be the second syllable of what you want...
[03:56] <hololight> mon: if your still around... on the open printing site, all but 4 of the epson printers listed say they work well or 'mostly'
[03:56] <thiemster> foul_owl: no, use this http://www.killertechtips.com/2009/04/26/disable-notifications-in-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope/
[03:56] <nsadmin> maybe if you were specific informative concise complete...
[03:56] <thiemster> foul_owl it's for an outdated ubuntu, but I'm betting that it'll still work
[03:56] <foul_owl> awesome, thanks!
[03:56] <foul_owl> sweet
[03:56] <thiemster> foul_owl no problemo
[03:56] <un214> http://www.bash.org/?826340
[03:56] <Guest39421> voss749, that is silly. maybe in 1990 they didnt. Thats what the web has become.
[03:57] <nsadmin> what does that spell... SICC!!
[03:57] <hiexpo> Keshav, wireshark tells all
[03:57] <hololight> mickster04: okay, follow the wpasupplicant tutorial.... if u said wep i could have helped in a line or two (but we all know wep is bad)
[03:58] <hololight> mickster04: it will require editing one conf file and running wpasupplicant
[03:58] <dozler> can someone help me fix my webcam problem?
[03:58] <Guest74840> I think I might of gotten a magnet near my hdd lol, how do I manually start the maintence thing that occurs monthly
[03:58] <voss749> guest39421, When we want to teach a 9 year old how to make a webpage we use publisher. Never underestimate the value of simple, Print shop is living proof of thaty
[03:58] <hiexpo> !webcam | dozler
[03:59] <nsadmin> garme: so maybe you can be specific informative concise complete about what you want, that would help
[04:00] <thiemster> Guest74840: try running "run sudo fdisk -l". this will list the partitions on your hard drive. Then run "sudo fsck /dev/*" where * is each partition that you found using the previous command
[04:00] <luis_> hello everyone
[04:00] <nsadmin> like, ask your actual, complete question
[04:00] <W43372> Wallpaper-tray and desktop drapes crashed when I restarted my system and won't work anymore.
[04:00] <gigawatt> is there a way to safely compile a program in a lower version of gcc?
[04:00] <thiemster> luis_ hi
[04:00] <thiemster> luis_ welcome
[04:00] <hiexpo> i just bought a new mouse today it is the best little wireless mouse for linux works great and easy
[04:00] <garme> nsadmin, in the ubuntu installation program, it uses a hw detection program or just run udev+hal?
[04:00] <Guest39421> voss749, i have never heard of printshop lol
[04:00] <un214> install older ubuntu in chroot with debootstrap
[04:01] <Guest74840> Thiemster I have a question, isn't ubuntu supposed to mount the partitions automatically gnome won't start because it says read only
[04:01] <un214> that's bad
[04:01] <luis_> thiemster thanks
[04:01] <hiexpo> change permissions
[04:01] <voss749> guest39421, ask any mom with a club about printshop
[04:01] <nsadmin> garme: cool... so now, a word about why you're asking will help whoever would respond target his response more closely
[04:01] <thiemster> Guest74840: You should actually run fsck /dev/whatever from a live cd because it is dangerous to run it if it's in use... and it would be in use if you are running the computer with it
[04:02] <Guest74840> Oh okay then that makes sense duh
[04:02] <sp0spo> :/media# mount /dev/sdk /media/portable/ -t fat32
[04:02] <sp0spo> mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat32'
[04:02] <un214> If you need to fsck your root partation (the one df shows as /) it needs to be done with root mounted readonly, this means booting rescue
[04:02] <hiexpo> !rude
[04:02] <nsadmin> perhaps... you're having problems with a specific device?
[04:02] <un214> sp0sp: it's -t msdos
[04:03] <thiemster> Guest74840: so the easy way would be to just take the CD that you installed ubuntu with and use that to run the check
[04:03] <nsadmin> or -t vfat
[04:03] <un214> yes that would be another easy way
[04:03] <Guest39421> voss749, learning web design with publisher is like... learning teaching drivers ed with a moped.
[04:03] <un214> !
[04:03] <sp0spo> vfat and msdos are the same, i guess huh
[04:03] <evilbug> apparently my /etc/fstab is gone. how, i don't know. how can i fix this?
[04:04] <un214> cat /etc/mtab > /etc/fstab
[04:04] <garme> nsadmin, I'm looking a distro with a good hw dectection mechanism... so i'm trying understand how it is done in ubuntu.
[04:04] <voss749> guest39421, Yes but if Microsoft has mopeds and we dont....who benefits?
[04:04] <Guest39421> voss749, huh?
[04:04] <thiemster> evilbug: try http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/missing-etcfstab-file/27205.html
[04:04] <hiexpo> why do we help people with windows i don't know we arelinux and should not give any support to windows
[04:05] <Hillshum> voss749: Do we have cars?
[04:05] <un214> thiemstr: out of date
[04:05] <diyqiao> -_-!
[04:05] <thiemster> un214: I know, but it still might help
[04:05] <Guest39421> hiexpo, who are you talking to?
[04:06] <diyqiao> We have cars and curs..aha
[04:06] <Guest74840> I know but I'm also having problems running xinit
[04:06] <diyqiao> I need course now
[04:07] <campee> so, does ubuntu 10 come out tomorrow?
[04:07] <poi77> Hi: How do I give my user permission to read and write a particular file. Note: I don't want a whole group to be able to do this
[04:07] <thiemster> campee: no, ubuntu 10.04 comes out tomorrow
[04:07] <IdleOne> !isitout | campee
[04:07] <thiemster> campee: and by tomorrow, I mean thursday. but I don't know what time zone you're in
[04:07] <hiexpo> Guest39421, was just talking in general so many asking for windows support ya know i can;t make my game work etc over and over
[04:07] <un214> evilbug: checking my system, if you're still running (although since you noticed you're probably not) cat /etc/mtab | grep -v bind | grep ^/dev > /etc/fstab results in a bootable system again
[04:07] <campee> tks
[04:08] <nsadmin> beat the rush... install it or download it now
[04:08] <Guest39421> hiexpo, you mean under wine or something?
[04:08] <campee> the rc?
[04:08] <evilbug> un214: i'm supposed to do what with that?
[04:08] <hiexpo> Guest39421, yes
[04:08] <Guest39421> hiexpo, is there a #wine? perhaps we could send them there?
[04:08] <un214> is your linux system still running?
[04:09] <IdleOne> Guest39421: #winehq
[04:09] <nsadmin> if you do that, you'll have most of it if not all. then the released version will be easy and fast
[04:09] <evilbug> un214: here's something really cool. i'm using livecd to look into /etc and i see fstab right there...
[04:09] <Guest39421> IdleOne, good to know.
[04:09] <un214> evilbug: unfortunately taht /etc/fstab is for the livecd
[04:09] <un214> now we get the harder job
[04:10] <evilbug> un214: it says it's booted /dev/sda1 as /
[04:10] <Guest39421> nsadmin, 10.04 is rock steady for me so far. no problems. i upgraded from karmic too
[04:10] <un214> what does df say?
[04:10] <evilbug> un214: well i'm using an alternate disc with "fix a broken system".
[04:10] <hiexpo> Guest39421, unfortunately no or i would / you know before u start that that is not gonna work in linux so be prepared
[04:11] <Guest39421> hiexpo, huh?
[04:11] <evilbug> un214: df says "/dev/sda1 mounted on /"
[04:11] <nerd> is this a help channel for Ubuntu Ultimate??
[04:11] <evilbug> un214: so i am looking at my hdd.
[04:11] <un214> ok can you see your /home?
[04:11] <Sichvot> does anyone know how to activate a multi-session remote desktop server for 10.04?
[04:11] <Guest39421> is Penol spamming/phishing?
[04:12] <un214> (the contents of that is)
[04:12] <Penol> Guest35290: what?
[04:12] <Guest39421> nerd, what is ubuntu ULTIMATE. sounds AWESOME
[04:12] <evilbug> un214: indeed i can.
[04:12] <thiemster> nerd: no, this is just for ubuntu
[04:12] <Pici> !ultimate | Guest39421 nerd
[04:12] <hiexpo> Guest39421, you know that your game is not going to work before u install linux
[04:13] <Guest39421> hiexpo, oh lol. i see. yeah well im trying cs4 atm so weel see how that goes
[04:13] <thiemster> nerd: but I doubt there's much difference between ultimate and the regular one so all questions could probably be answered in this
[04:13] <nerd> I'm thinking of switching but can't get my iphone to sync...is there a solution??and whats the room name for UU??
[04:13] <un214> ok so the first line of /etc/fstab is "/dev/sda1 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[04:13] <un214> assuming your / really is ext3
[04:13] <xangua> nerd: no, there is not; only for official ubuntu
[04:13] <un214> file /dev/sda1 will tell you
[04:14] <Guest39421> nerd, I heard iPhones are synching with rythmbox atm. dont know for how long though. but you still need itunes to get updates
[04:14] <Guest74840> Is there a command that might be able to repair or roll back gnome automatically?
[04:14] <gleg> Hello!  I just recently did a clean install of 9.10, and it is generally working well.  Sometimes though it will only load the virtual terminal and await a login.  If I login I can start the gui with 'startx' but within minutes it will revert back to the standard login.  Any ideas why this might be happening?
[04:14] <Guest74840> Besides dpkg
[04:15] <nerd> I'm on 3.1.2 firmware and want update. I'm dual booting Android and iPhone OS ATM
[04:15] <un214> evilbug??
[04:15] <xangua> gleg: what does that has to do with ubuntu¿
[04:15] <Guest39421> nerd, good one.
[04:16] <Guest39421> nerd, if you are dual booting your iPhone than you cant honestly be needing anyone here's help
[04:16] <gleg> xangua: I feel like something is wrong if it isn't booting directly into the login screen.  No?
[04:16] <IdleOne> !ot | nerd
[04:16] <xangua> aah sorry, didn't read; nerd in lucid you will be able to sync your ipod/iphone perceftly....2 more days to lucid release
[04:16] <nerd> The wiki has the instructions, and it's minly terminal work, and it's easy
[04:16] <gigawatt> I need to compile a program with an older version of gcc and running this command: "$ g++ -V 4.2.4 testbst.cpp" and i get this error g++: error trying to exec 'i486-linux-gnu-gcc-4.2.4': execvp: No such file or directory
[04:17] <evilbug> un214: i ran "nano /etc/fstab" and it says "/ was on /dev/sda1 during installation".
[04:17] <domo> Guest39421: not really..
[04:17] <domo> thats cake now
[04:17] <domo> google it
[04:17] <Captain_John> o_O god..this is foreign channel T_T
[04:17] <un214> evilbug: it sounds like your /etc/fstab is intact after all
[04:17] <maco> Captain_John: huh?
[04:17] <Jeeves_Moss> is there a way to batch repair video files with VLC and have VLC savethe repaired files?
[04:17] <Guest39421> domo, since like today? I saw some youtube of it like 3 days ago and it was not released yet and only worked with 1st gen
[04:18] <Captain_John> maco: just can't find russian channel about ubuntu =)
[04:18] <domo> a month or so
[04:18] <nerd> so when Lucis gets released, I can sync??
[04:18] <Myrtti> !ru | Captain_John
[04:18] <nerd> *Lucid
[04:18] <hiexpo> !lucid
[04:18] <nerd> is there a room for ubuntu ultimate??
[04:19] <maco> !ru | Captain_John
[04:19] <Evet> is there a text-based torrent client?
[04:19] <Jeeves_Moss> nerd, Ubuntu Ultimate?
[04:19] <nerd> yea
[04:19] <thiemster> Evet: rtorrent
[04:19] <wallshot> does anybody here play Eve Online in wine on Karmic/Lucid with fglrx drivers?   I seem to always have whole computer freeze after getting through login and character selection, as it is chugging through the "Entering game as ..." after choosing a character.
[04:19] <hiexpo> !ultimate
[04:19] <Guest39421> is there a safe way to install other window managers without them fighting over boot splash and lgin screen? whenever i installed multiple environments in the past I could never get those parts to behave at all
[04:19] <nerd> im running Ubuntu Ultimate 2.5 now and love it..there a a million and one apps on here..Everythings pre installed
[04:19] <hiexpo> 1windows
[04:19] <Captain_John> ubottu: thk u =)
[04:20] <hiexpo> !windows
[04:20] <Guest39421> oh ubottu dont be so humble
[04:20] <nerd> how is wine support for PS?
[04:20] <nsadmin> Guest39421: if you're not specific then can't know the answer as to how safe "it" is
[04:20] <evilbug> un214: fun little issue, eh?
[04:20] <IdleOne> nerd: did you happen to read the info ubottu gave you about #ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:20] <thiemster> Guest39421: just download them normally, and run them from a terminal (go to ctrl-alt-f1) and type in "xinit /usr/bin/* -- :1" where * is the environment you want to run
[04:20] <nerd> but it pertains to Ubuntu
[04:20] <wallshot> i've started to suspect it's the radeon mobility hd3650 itself is crashing the system when loading into the 3d world
[04:21] <un214> evilbug: I don't know sounds like your issue is elsewhere
[04:21] <Myrtti> nerd: Ubuntu Ultimate is not supported on this channel and as such is offtopic here
[04:21] <wallshot> happens on karmic 64, karmic 32, lucid 64
[04:21] <Redtux777> Any FTP/SSH users here? I'm trying to install Interspire on my new Ubuntu server. Got the server running, but I think I have the permissions wrong in /var/www/iem/ What CHMOD should the files, folders (admin, etc.), be?
[04:21] <Guest39421> nsadmin, thiemster how do I do that? I dont want any of the applications, just the environments, can I do that? Gnome is just so heavy on this poor old computer
[04:21] <hiexpo> !ot \ nerd
[04:22] <thiemster> Guest39421: what environment do you want?
[04:22] <hiexpo> !ot \ nerd
[04:22] <Redtux777> In general, what should I CHMOD files, folders? They are in /var/www/iem/
[04:22] <IdleOne> hiexpo: | not \
[04:22] <nerd> hiexpo: I have no idea what you saying...lol
[04:22] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - thanx
[04:22] <Guest39421> thiemster, i would like to be able to switch btw gnome, xfce, enlightenment, and the L one. lfce i think
[04:23] <Guest39421> thiemster, see which one is the snappiest/prettiest balance
[04:23] <thiemster> Guest39421: it's lxde. Have you downloaded them yet with apt-get (or synaptic I suppose)
[04:23] <thiemster> Guest39421: I happen to LOVE lxde
[04:23] <UbuntuBoy> good article on Lucid: http://techbytes4.wordpress.com/        I subscribed, really good blog!
[04:23] <Mountain> hello all!
[04:23] <nerd> hey Mounain
[04:23] <UbuntuBoy> Hi
[04:24] <Guest39421> thiemster, i havent, im afraid to because in the past, they all take over each other and I get like 4 splash screens or thousands of KDE apps installed that I dont want
[04:24] <Mountain> this is my first time on irc :)
[04:24] <UbuntuBoy> welcome
[04:24] <Guest39421> Mountain, !hi
[04:24] <UbuntuBoy> irc is very useful for quick help
[04:24] <mickster04> thiemster: the guide doesnt work for me:/ i get a no response:/ does this method allow for connections to the router wired as well as wireless
[04:24] <Guest39421> Mountain, start typing someones name and then press tab to speak diredtly to someone. wish I knew that when i started lol
[04:24] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - have u seen avatar yet?
[04:24] <sp0spo> one needs to use -b for mv or cp when copying or moving across different file systems, right?
[04:24] <mickster04> thiemster: cos i am sshing into the device i am trying to set the wireless up on:/
[04:25] <thiemster> Guest39421: run mickster04: i'm not sure really. I suck with network related stuff. you could try googling it
[04:25] <nerd> is there a GUID for SSh??
[04:25] <thiemster> Guest39421: I think you just run "sudo apt-get install lxde"
[04:25] <nerd> or just terminal
[04:25] <linuxwolf_> and type /nick ,whatevernameUlike> to not be a guest####### lol
[04:25] <Mountain> guest like this you mean?
[04:26] <thiemster> Guest39421: and then, in a terminal, run "xinit /usr/bin/startlxde -- :1" and then it will be available using ctrl-alt-f8. you can switch back to gnome with ctrl-alt-f7
[04:26] <Guest39421> thiemster, I dont think I want to to that...I will never get my default apps/spalsh screen/login back.
[04:26] <xangua> thiemster: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <thiemster> Guest39421: yes you will. it'll work, trust me
[04:26] <thiemster> xangua: for what?
[04:27] <Guest39421> thiemster, is there similar for E, xfce and maybe even KDE?
[04:27] <thiemster> xangua: I never indicated that I wanted to install xubuntu-desktop......
[04:27] <UbuntuBoy> Is it easy to move the close & minimize buttons to the right  side of the screen on Lucid?
[04:27] <xangua> thiemster: for installing lxde desktop; not just lxde
[04:27] <Guest39421> UbuntuBoy, just go to appearance
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> UbuntuBoy, see !controls in #ubuntu+1
[04:27] <Guest39421> xangua, whats the difference?
[04:27] <thiemster> Guest39421:yes, try searching synaptic for these and then run them the same way. they probably won't need the "start" part of startlxde though
[04:27] <xangua> thiemster: aah sorry, then is lubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <thiemster> xangua: yeah, I was wondering about that
[04:28] <UbuntuBoy> thanks
[04:28] <thiemster> xangua: but he said he only wanted the base... hence only "lxde"
[04:28] <jrcarr2> don't you love rooms full of people who are dead silent
[04:28] <jrcarr2> ?
[04:28] <mickster04> can anyone help me get wireless working through terminal, when i do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "labla" - it doesn't change the ssid shown when i run sudo iwconfig wlan0
[04:28] <Guest39421> jrcarr2, im pretty vocal
[04:28] <jrcarr2> Ubunturific, Qunicy?
[04:28] <jrcarr2> Ubunturific, Qunicy, IL?
[04:28] <UbuntuBoy> thiemster: then sudo apt-get install lxde
[04:28] <Mountain_Man> there that's better
[04:29] <Redtux777> When CHMODing, should files be 604 and folders be 705?
[04:29] <Guest39421> thiemster, can I make like a snapshot before I start that I can rollback to when I inevitable f*k everything up?
[04:29] <thiemster> UbuntuBoy: uh... yes. that's what I just told Guest39421
[04:29] <UbuntuBoy> good
[04:29] <jrcarr2> sigh... the svn channel is dead silent. Anyone here use svn? trying to find someway to auto-add and auto remove files when I commit
[04:29] <un214> Redtux777: what full for user, non for group, read for world?
[04:29] <Ubunturific> nope vegas...
[04:29] <thiemster> Guest39421: Technically you could. but stop worrying, because I've done it a LOT (I've probably have 10 different desktop environments right now) and it hasn't messed up once
[04:29] <Mountain_Man> anyone do we have to stay on topic or could i ask questions on topics other than ubuntu?
[04:29] <un214> jrcrr2: I'll bet that intentionally doesn't exist
[04:30] <Guest39421> thiemster, im telling you man, four splash screens is just depressing.
[04:30] <mickster04> !ot | Mountain_Man:
[04:30] <thiemster> Guest39421: I'm just saying that for me, it hasn't installed.... any splash screens.
[04:30] <Guest39421> or like a Xubuntu splash screen that boots into Gnome with all KDE apps. its enough to make a grown man cry
[04:30] <sp0spo> if i have fat32, then i cannot have a file bigger than 2gb?
[04:30] <jrcarr2> is there a Fluxbuntu?
[04:30] <mickster04> sp0spo: yeah
[04:30] <jrcarr2> I prefer fluxbox
[04:30] <thiemster> Guest39421: then again, I don't use gdm to start up. I just run "startx" from a command line
[04:30] <rww> jrcarr2: used to be, but I believe it's defunct.
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> jrcarr2, there is but it's very out of date
[04:30] <Redtux777> un214, I am trying to install some mailing software. I can't get to the install screen, being told that I don't have the correct permissions. How can I, in PuTTY, do a CHMOD for files, then for folders?
[04:30] <thiemster> Guest39421: but I'm pretty sure it'll work. if it messes up, just use "sudo apt-get remove lxde"
[04:30] <Guest39421> thiemster, that sir is why you dont have problems lol
[04:30] <Mountain_Man> ubottu thank you , are you a bot, or just a clever name?
[04:31] <mickster04> Mountain_Man: lol
[04:31] <Guest39421> thiemster, ok. as soon as my wine complie is done i will try sudo apt-get install lxde
[04:31] <thiemster> Guest39421: that... and because I run Arch Linux and not Ubuntu. I gave up using it when I felt it had gotten too bloated
[04:31] <un214> Redtux: well most software is installed as root
[04:31] <rww> jrcarr2: You could just install a command-line version of Ubuntu using the Alternate CD and then add the xorg and fluxbox packages.
[04:31] <Redtux777> so far, I have    sudo chmod -R 705 /var/www/iem    But I'm getting everything. I only want to 705 the folders.
[04:31] <Guest39421> thiemster, then I REALLY shouldnt trust you lol
[04:31] <hiexpo> !ubottu
[04:32] <thiemster> Guest39421: perhaps not. but it'll probably work
[04:32] <zy3g0> hi..:D
[04:32] <thiemster> Guest39421: It's the same packages anyway, just a different official distro name
[04:32] <Guest39421> thiemster, can I install KDE without KDE applications? or is that retarded?
[04:32] <thiemster> Guest39421 yes you can. I know of a way. let me look it up
[04:32] <hiexpo> why u want kde?
[04:32] <Mountain_Man> mickster04 where could I go to ask questions about building my first pc?
[04:33] <Guest39421> hiexpo, i think its pretty
[04:33] <mickster04> Mountain_Man: google
[04:33] <Redtux777> un214, I'm told to go to: http://www.yoursite.com/iem/   When I do, I see this: http://pastebin.com/e6UyUYFK
[04:33] <Guest39421> hiexpo, honestly. lol
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> !google > mickster04
[04:33] <mickster04> ZykoticK9: it was either that or offtopic him
[04:33] <Guest39421> hiexpo, im looking for a new environment cause gnome is too heavy for this old beast
[04:33] <xangua> Guest39421: you want to install kde desktop without kde apps¿¿
[04:33] <thiemster> Guest39421 try "sudo apt-get install kde-core"
[04:34] <sp0spo> you cannot do a quick disconnect with ntfs, you have to umount it... but with fat32, you can right?
[04:34] <un214> ok it runs as webserver user
[04:34] <xangua> Guest39421: well kde is not lighter than gnome
[04:34] <hiexpo> Guest39421, ok use kubuntu
[04:34] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know how to install frostwire from the command line?
[04:34] <Redtux777> un214, any ideas?
[04:34] <un214> chmod <user><group><world> filename will fix the permissions but probably the install is wrong
[04:34] <linux_is_my_hero> **terminal
[04:34] <xangua> linux_is_my_hero: i believe frostwire is not in the repositories
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> mickster04, it's just so rude to say "google it" - i realize the question is WAY offtopic for this channel, and difficult to reply too, but please don't use the "google it" :)
[04:34] <un214> anyway, read the manual
[04:34] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: sudo apt-get install frostwire?
[04:34] <hiexpo> install frostwire with a deb
[04:34] <Guest39421> xangua, hmm, scratch that then. does xfce or lxde have compiz?
[04:34] <un214> the instal should have done it for you
[04:34] <linux_is_my_hero> mickster: already tried it
[04:35] <linux_is_my_hero> mickster: if i know the exact url how can i install it from the terminal?
[04:35] <thiemster> Guest39421: if you run compiz on a old/low-memory computer, it'll be very slow
[04:35] <xangua> Guest39421: you can use compiz in xfce but you will need to use metacity or either emerald window decorators
[04:35] <Guest39421> xangua, same for lxde?
[04:35] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: just go to the website? download and install?
[04:36] <mickster04> can anyone help me get wireless working through terminal, when i do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "labla" - it doesn't change the ssid shown when i run sudo iwconfig wlan0
[04:36] <Guest39421> thiemster, dammit. i just want everything i guess.
[04:36] <zy3g0> i use Gnome-ART software..
[04:36] <zy3g0> its good..
[04:36] <xangua> Guest39421: no idea, if you want something lighter why do you want compiz¿
[04:36] <thiemster> Guest39421: probably. everyone seems to nowadays
[04:36] <soreau> Guest39421: He means gtk-window-decorator or emerald as a decorator and yes, compiz will work anywhere there's an X session with working graphics drivers
[04:36] <linux_is_my_hero> mickster04: i was going for cool points, trying to do it without my web browser
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> !emerald
[04:37] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: you can do a wget on the ,deb file and run the deb file from cli i think
[04:37] <thiemster> linux_is_my_hero: you can use "wget *" where * is the url
[04:37] <soreau> you don't need a DE to run compiz and you can run compiz in most DE's (with the exception of gnome-shell)
[04:37] <Guest39421> xangua, i still want it to be cool, its not even THAT old. just not snappy. 2.2Ghz single core AMD, 1GB ram, nvidia something. like 128 dedicated i think. maybe less idk
[04:37] <Guest39421> soreau, thanks man
[04:37] <linux_is_my_hero> mickster04: how about java? my frost wire won't run
[04:37] <thiemster> Guest39421: I WISH I had that much ram. Only 512MB :'( but that should definitely be enough ram to run compiz
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> lol i have 4 gb
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> :-)
[04:38] <Guest39421> thiemster, haha you are running lxde you said?
[04:38] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: sudo apt-get install?
[04:38] <Mountain_Man> mickster I have been there (google) for 2 days now, and  was hoping to converse about it with some one of experience. I was hoping for a channel sugesstion perhaps. thanks Zykotick for the consideration.
[04:38] <thiemster> Guest39421: actually... I'm running awesome wm. BUT I really wouldn't recommend that for most people
[04:39] <_pg_> how can I get transparent panels in gnome 10.04?
[04:39] <thiemster> Guest39421: but I used to run lxde and it was really REALLY fast on my oldish computer
[04:39] <mickster04> !ot | Mountain_Man
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> Mountain_Man, actually you could try ##hardware
[04:39] <Guest39421> thiemster, why wouldnt you recommend awesome?
[04:39] <costre> !lucid | _pg_
[04:39] <xangua> _pg_: have you tried to search it in the web¿
[04:39] <_pg_> costre: how can I get transparent panels in gnome.
[04:40] <thiemster> Guest39421: I would recommend it, just not to most computer users. It gets a while to get used to, and most people don't seem to have the time (or don't want to have the time) to learn
[04:40] <Mountain_Man> zykotick9 thank you !
[04:40] <thiemster> Guest39421: plus, as someone pointed out to me yesterday on this IRC channel, it looks like it's from the late 80s or early 90s
[04:40] <_pg_> xangua:  yes, i can get the middle to be transparent but not the sides, like apps, places, system etc
[04:40] <airstrike> _pg_: right click the panel, open properties, background, solid color, etc
[04:40] <Guest39421> thiemster, thats unfortunate
[04:40] <airstrike> _pg_: oh, i hear ya
[04:40] <thiemster> Guest39421: which part? the not wanting to learn or the 80s/90s?
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, it depends on the theme you are using
[04:41] <thiemster> Guest39421: or perhaps both :)
[04:41] <xangua> _pg_: then you are looking for transparent menus, not panel
[04:41] <Guest39421> thiemster, the 80s/90s lol
[04:41] <xangua> sear that
[04:41] <xangua> search*
[04:41] <thiemster> Guest39421: well, not being around in the late 80s, I wouldn't really know personally. But I love the interface. It's able to be used with only a keyboard
[04:41] <_pg_> xangua: well i mean i want the entire thing to be transparent. from edge to edge if you will
[04:41] <mickster04> can anyone help me get wireless working through terminal, when i do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "labla" - it doesn't change the ssid shown when i run sudo iwconfig wlan0
[04:41] <Guest39421> thiemster, me neither, but ive seen the music videos and thats enough for me.
[04:42] <thiemster> Guest39421: haha I get what you mean
[04:42] <thiemster> bye everyone
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, just don't use Ambiance or Radiance - and the whole panel will be transparent (other themes MAY be affected too)
[04:43] <_pg_> ZykoticK9: what is defualt in 10.04?
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, yes
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, ambiance or radiance
[04:43] <sp0spo> how come ubuntu does not see the partition of my usb drive? does it have to be marked as active for it to be mountable?
[04:43] <linux_is_my_hero> help
[04:43] <linux_is_my_hero> i have the java bin file but i dont know how to install it
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support!
[04:44] <_pg_> ZykoticK9: *facepalm*
[04:44] <xangua> linux_is_my_hero: you can install java from the repositories
[04:44] <linux_is_my_hero> xangua: sudo apt-get install java?
[04:45] <mickster04> linux_is_my_hero: do a tab-complete on it
[04:45] <linux_is_my_hero> what packages do i need?
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, sun-java6-plugin if you want the web plugin
[04:45] <xangua> linux_is_my_hero: if you want it for the browser install 'sun-java6-plugin' package
[04:46] <linux_is_my_hero> alright in eed java for the computer itself, so frostwire will actually work
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, sun-java6-jre should work
[04:47] <Mountain_Man> How do I get invited to a channel, I tried joining"#hardware" and was given " Cannot join #hardware (Channel is invite only).
[04:47] <linux_is_my_hero> so why doesnt my frostwire work?
[04:47] <xangua> have you already installed java linux_is_my_hero¿
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> !register > Mountain_Man
[04:47] <sp0spo> i plug in my usb drive, and then a   /dev/sdk is in the /dev directory but  /dev/sdk1 is not there... the partition, i don't understand, how can i mount it if the partition is not listed?
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> xangua: I've installed java like you said but when i run frostwire sudo from the terminal it gives me there errors
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[04:48] <linux_is_my_hero> when i run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" it says i already have the latest version
[04:48] <eric> does anyone know how to start bt4 in the GUI mode automaticly
[04:49] <polarsky> u mean without startx?
[04:49] <Guest31136> yes
[04:49] <ennui> i am having a hard time finding the beta version of a certain package with apt-get. is there a command to allow devel packages? or do i need to add a repo?
[04:49] <Guest31136> but automaticly
[04:49] <polarsky> add it in xinitrc or inittab or sumthing
[04:49] <polarsky> or
[04:49] <linux_is_my_hero> xangua: now i have the JRE bin file but i dont know how to install it :-(
[04:50] <polarsky> echo startx >> .bash_profile
[04:50] <polarsky> as root
[04:50] <ubutom> linux_is_my_hero, you don'T install it, you have to execute it with the jre
[04:50] <polarsky> "startx" i mean
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, frostwire just installed using the java from from repo for me
[04:51] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotic9: I'm gunna undo everything ive done then tell me what you did to make it work :-)
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> !tab > linux_is_my_hero
[04:52] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotic9: frostwire is gone so you're saying you did what now?
[04:52] <skrite> hey all, i am wanting to move a file to another computer over network via scp.. i can't seem to find the option that allows me to compress on the fly to speed things up
[04:52] <Travis-42> how do I kill a process (google chrome) that won't die even with "kill -s 9" ?
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> !tab > linux_is_my_hero
[04:52] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: got it thanks :-)
[04:53] <IdleOne> Travis-42: killall chrome
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, could you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep sun-java"
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-bin                         6-15-1                                     Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture d
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-fonts                       6-15-1                                     Lucida TrueType fonts (from the Sun JRE)
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-jre                         6-15-1                                     Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture i
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ii  sun-java6-plugin                      6-15-1                                     The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6
[04:53] <FloodBot1> linux_is_my_hero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <Travis-42> IdleOne: that helped, down from 15 chrome processes, but still left with 5 chrome processes. any more ideas?
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> !paste > linux_is_my_hero
[04:53] <bossok> sup
[04:53] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: I dont know how to use pastebin ive never had a need to use it
[04:54] <James806> I have a question about Ubuntu 8.04   When i start up the Linux box I have to press Ctrl D just to boot up to the system how can i fix this?????
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, don't paste things into the channel
[04:54] <IdleOne> traveller: ps aux | grep chrome then sudo kill PID
[04:54] <ubutom> James806, does it prompt you to run fsck manually?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, do you have the frostwire-4.20.6.i586.deb file somewhere?  In your Downloads folder perhaps?
[04:55] <linux_is_my_hero> no but i can get it pretty quick
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, download it then
[04:55] <James806> no not that i am aware of
[04:55] <Travis-42> IdleOne: yes, I've tried that, it doesn't work
[04:55] <zeroseven0183> James806: Try running e2fsck /dev/hda_
[04:55] <patrick-1> Hey, im running dapper drake with apache2 + php5 package in mod_php mode - is it possible to update the php installation to 5.3.2 by hand?
[04:55] <linux_is_my_hero> Zykotick9: done
[04:55] <IdleOne> Travis-42: umm, log out and back in maybe.
[04:56] <epoh> lol
[04:56] <IdleOne> Travis-42: not optimal I know
[04:56] <Guest39421> dekstop background change every x minutes, is there a best way to do this? A gui and runs under all (or most) desktop environments? I googled and found like a dozen different ways
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, double click it from nautilus and enter your password when prompted
[04:56] <Travis-42> IdleOne: alright, I guess I'll have to do that, thanks
[04:56] <explorealex> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 on a compaq pressario notebook.. the wireless lan button is not functioning and so no internet connection.. what should i do?
[04:57] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: its installing right now
[04:57] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[04:57] <Guest39421> explorealex, plug it into ethernet and look for proprietary hardware wireless drivers
[04:57] <linux_is_my_hero> ZykoticK9: and now it wont work. :-(
[04:57] <Mountain_Man> zykotick9 was it #ubuntu ot
[04:57] <Mountain_Man> ?
[04:57] <patrick-1> anyone?
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> Mountain_Man, ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:57] <explorealex>  Guest39421: any apt-get command that might work?
[04:58] <Mountain_Man> zykotick thank you for all your help! :)
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> Mountain_Man, glad to help
[04:58] <hdpb> i have downloaded the source drivers for my audio card.  where should I untar them to before running "make install"?  Does it matter?
[04:58] <Guest39421> explorealex, not that smart. lol I get all my apt commands from ZykoticK9
[04:58] <polarsky> yes hdpb
[04:58] <nsadmin> man apt-get for apt-get commands of most kinds
[04:58] <Mountain_Man> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:58] <Guest39421> any votes for drapes?
[04:58] <polarsky> tar zxvf whatever.tar.gz
[04:58] <James806> thanks i will give that a try
[04:58] <polarsky> cd whatever
[04:58] <linux_is_my_hero> explorealex: connect via ethernet, then run system-->admin-->update manager, then when that's done, restart and open system-->admin-->hardware drivers and it should get your wifi drivers from the online repos
[04:58] <polarsky> make
[04:58] <Jeeves_Moss> hdpb, I usally have a directory off of /home/ called "installers"
[04:58] <patrick-1> Okay, i simply want to understand how php interacts with aache when using mod_php so i can upgrade myseld
[04:58] <polarsky> and than make install
[04:58] <patrick-1> Hey, im running dapper drake with apache2 + php5 package in mod_php mode - is it possible to update the php installation to 5.3.2 by hand?
[04:58] <polarsky> its way easier just using apt tho
[04:59] <explorealex>  linux_is_my_hero:thanks
[04:59] <nsadmin> patrick-1: #apache ##php
[04:59] <Flannel> patrick-1: You could, yes.  But why would you want to?  Is there something keeping you from upgrading?
[04:59] <explorealex>  Guest39421: thanks
[04:59] <blistov> Ubuntu 10.04 daily (today's build).  I can't find any way to connect ubuntuone anymore.
[04:59] <Jeeves_Moss> Flannel, hey man, long time!!
[04:59] <patrick-1> Flannel: there is no 5.3.2 package in ubuntu
[04:59] <Flannel> Howdy Jeeves_Moss
[04:59] <patrick-1> dapper
[04:59] <blistov> Anyone know where this has gone? I can get into preferences but it just says disconnected.
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, what doesn't work?  Mine is working fine, no Java error message.
[04:59] <maco> patrick-1: i think Flannel wanted to know why you're still sticking with dapper
[04:59] <Flannel> patrick-1: That's correct.  Is there something keeping you on Dapper?
[05:00] <nsadmin> why do you need 5.3.2?
[05:00] <patrick-1> yes for now it is.
[05:00] <Flannel> patrick-1: What is it?
[05:00] <Guest39421> does anyone know if drapes works under other DE besides Gnome?
[05:00] <patrick-1> my superior :)
[05:00] <linux_is_my_hero> Zykotick9: lemme run it from the terminal and ill PM you the error message if you dont have any objections to that.
[05:00] <patrick-1> and the customer demands 5.3.2
[05:00] <linux_is_my_hero> may i PM you?
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> blistov, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid think there is also a #ubuntuone channel
[05:00] <patrick-1> is there any way?
[05:00] <James806> are there any good training video's out there on the net were a newbie like myself could learn Linux?
[05:00] <James806> free
[05:00] <polarsky> everywhere.
[05:00] <polarsky> google is ur friend
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, no PMs thanks.  Pastebin would be best
[05:01] <Flannel> patrick-1: manual installation is the only way.  That version of PHP is in Lucid (which will be released in two days) and Hardy has 5.2.10.
[05:01] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotick9: hwo do i use pastebin?
[05:01] <nsadmin> video? maybe... there are tutorials and uni courses on unix/linux
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> !paste > linux_is_my_hero
[05:01] <Flannel> polarsky: Please don't treat "google" as an answer, thanks.
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, go to the site, paste the content, then bring the link to the paste back here
[05:01] <nsadmin> but it can be an answer
[05:01] <Flannel> patrick-1: Why is your boss insistent on Dapper?  Hardy is LTS as well, and Dapper is only supported for another 14 months.
[05:01] <patrick-1> Flannel: could you give me a quick ripdown on that to do? can i re-use the packaged apache?
[05:01] <Flannel> nsadmin: Not in this channel.
[05:02] <Jeeves_Moss> James806, the best way is to "pick a project", break down the steps required to acomplish it, then run with it
[05:02] <polarsky> @Flannel, ok
[05:02] <James806> ok
[05:02] <patrick-1> Flannel: For now I dont care why he does. It will come back to haunt him at some time :D im just the peon doing the work :)
[05:02] <nsadmin> well if they;'re not paying me then I may suggest it. As soon as the check arrives in my email is the moment that someone can tell me how I support
[05:02] <linux_is_my_hero> Zykotick9: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/423730/
[05:03] <Flannel> patrick-1: Yeah, you just have to swap out php and libapache2-mod-php5.  You can't backport the packages from Lucid, because that'd require you to backport apache as well (Lucid uses apache2.2, Dapper uses apache2)
[05:03] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[05:03] <Flannel> nsadmin: No, I will remove you from this channel if you refer someone to google as an answer to a question other than "what is a good search engine"
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> linux_is_my_hero, remove sudo!  this is very bad - ONLY use gksu for graphic apps - and NEVER run filesharing as root
[05:03] <patrick-1> Flannel: okay, I found this howto: http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html but i seem to be missing axps ..
[05:03] <Flannel> nsadmin: This channel has guidelines that we expect you to follow, if you don't wish to follow them, you're welcome to spend your time elsewhere.
[05:04] <gokul> James806, why dont you try the ubuntu manual ?? (But its still in its child stage)
[05:04] <James806> i do have to admit it Linux is allot better then windows
[05:04] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotick9: alright will do :-D
[05:04] <nsadmin> when canonical cuts me a check, I'll work on their terms
[05:04] <linux_is_my_hero> zykotick9: good thing it didn't launch
[05:04] <h00k> !lucid | _pg_
[05:04] <linux_is_my_hero> James806: yeah, it is :-)
[05:04] <h00k> woah, by backscroll was broken.
[05:04] <Flannel> nsadmin: We are not canonical, we are volunteers.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[05:04] <h00k> sorry, _pg_
[05:05] <Flannel> patrick-1: You'll want to ask ##php for this, since you're basically just going to be compiling it yourself
[05:05] <nsadmin> well you're supporting canonical who is selling a service
[05:05] <James806> are there any good books out for 9.04 or 10.4
[05:05] <patrick-1> Flannel: compiling php ist the hard part. its compiling it right to work with the packaged apache.
[05:05] <Flannel> nsadmin: If you'd like to discuss this further, please feel free to bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-ops.
[05:05] <linux_is_my_hero> JAmes806: youll learn more just using it
[05:05] <Jeeves_Moss> James806, the best way is to "pick a project", break down the steps required to acomplish it, then run with it
[05:06] <rhl> Hi, can anyone here tell me about setting up a "man in the middle" for telnet, I want to log incoming telnet connections
[05:06] <James806> what kind of project can u pick?
[05:06] <Jeeves_Moss> Flannel, was I that annoying when I started?
[05:06] <patrick-1> #php sent me to my distro channel :)
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> JAmes806: I installed ubuntu on a tablet pc
[05:06] <fillayy> Hello, does anyone know anything about wireless internet?
[05:06] <polarsky> use a tool like dsniff or ettercap
[05:06] <Hillshum> nsadmin: This channel belongs to Cannonical, and you are expected to abide by its terms while here
[05:06] <polarsky> for mitm
[05:06] <linux_is_my_hero> fillaay: lemme guess ur wifi doesnt work?
[05:06] <Flannel> Hillshum: this channel does not belong to Canonical
[05:06] <nsadmin> when canonical cuts me a check, I'll work on their terms
[05:07] <rhl> does dsniff log telnet?
[05:07] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: lemme guess ur wifi doesn't work?
[05:07] <polarsky> yes
[05:07] <fillayy> Nope, my wifi is fine, I wanted help with mobile broadband and how to get my wireless networks back on my menu bar thing.
[05:07] <polarsky> check out their page
[05:07] <polarsky> http://monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/
[05:07] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[05:08] <Hillshum> Flannel: Maybe Freenode, but I think my point stands
[05:08] <patrick-1> Flannel: Any chance in getting a hint on how to build php so that it works with the current apache package in dapper?
[05:08] <Flannel> patrick-1: That page looked pretty good.  What dependency were you missing?
[05:08] <patrick-1> Flannel: cant find axps :)
[05:08] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: i dont know i tried removing mine to add it again with you but i dont know how u got rid of it in the first place
[05:08] <Avasz> is there any way to get configuration editor to its default?
[05:09] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: howd u get rid of it?
[05:09] <patrick-1> Flannel: And what paths to choose to it will run with apache
[05:09] <fillayy> right click and remove from pannel.
[05:09] <fillayy> panel*
[05:09] <James806> thanks everyone for your help and suggestions
[05:09] <linux_is_my_hero> JAmes806: welcome to linux, good luck :-)
[05:09] <ennui> some images in my interface show up with the red 'no' sign instead of displaying the picture
[05:09] <Flannel> !compile | patrick-1
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> !java | linux_is_my_hero
[05:10] <patrick-1> Flannel: Are you telling me to recompile apache?
[05:10] <Flannel> patrick-1: That page might help, with build-dep and stuff
[05:10] <Avasz> !configuration editor
[05:10] <Flannel> patrick-1: No, I'm telling you to compile php and the php module for apache
[05:10] <Jeeves_Moss> Flannel, 'night.  Fiance is calling.
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> !wireless | fillayy
[05:10] <Flannel> Bye Jeeves_Moss
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> fillayy: gotta get my charger, ttyl
[05:10] <linux_is_my_hero> 'nite
[05:10] <fillayy> thx
[05:11] <justin_> The command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't helping me. X server isn't working. I have on board video.
[05:12] <fillayy> Does anyone know how to get my wireless networks back onto GNOME Panel?
[05:12] <leagris> patrick-1, just a guess, if I'd really needed a custom version of PHP I would download the packaged php source apt-get source then dig inside it and customize it including version then build and install my custom packaged php. Using the existing framework of an existing package source will help you keep it in good shape with other packaged applications and it will be easier to upgrade or replace.
[05:13] <Scunizi> justin_: what kind of card is it?
[05:13] <skrag> hey guys, does 9.10 install some sort of default firewall? im trying to host a doom server and I cant get it to contact the master server, i can ping out and internet browse
[05:13] <patrick-1> leagris: mhh, but they have already been compiled.
[05:14] <patrick-1> would be useful to see how they were compiled
[05:14] <maco> skrag: there is a firewall but it is not configured
[05:14] <Scunizi> skrag: if it uses port 80 your ISP might be blocking it.
[05:14] <maco> skrag: ports are all open but with no services listening til you install and start 'em
[05:14] <fillayy> Does anyone know how to get my wireless networks back onto GNOME Panel?
[05:14] <renegaid> does ubuntu have a search for program feature. hate scrolling through menus. That's old school
[05:14] <justin_> S3 Unichrome Pro, it is what comes with those tiny VIA motherboards.
[05:15] <Scunizi> justin_: arg.. it's sort of supported in the kernel.. but they are a pain.. what's the issue? bad resolution?
[05:15] <goddard> I am having some issues getting some files to work properly after setting up my ubuntu server what are the proper settings to allow a php file to read another file
[05:15] <justin_> Scunizi, also, my internet isn't working. I did a modprobe to get the drivers working, did a iwlist scan to find the network, and assigned it with iwconfig, but the internet simply won't work.
[05:15] <skrag> maco: yeah i ahve my router all set up with the ports open,
[05:15] <fillayy> Does anyone know how to get my wireless networks back onto GNOME Panel?
[05:15] <gmonnie> I'm trying to change my login screen on 9.10, can any tell me how, or where i can find a how to thing?
[05:16] <justin_> Scunizi, nothing happens. It is a black screen when X is booted.
[05:16] <maco> skrag: no im saying thats how ubuntu is by default. all open. but um are you NAT'd by chance?
[05:16] <maco> skrag: since you mentioned having a router? have you remembered to forward the ports on it?
[05:16] <skrag> maco: yeah the ports are forewarded, how do i find out in im NAT'd?
[05:17] <maco> skrag: if you get a 192.168 instead of a real outside ip you're NAT'd. but thats what port forwarding is to get around
[05:17] <Scunizi> justin_: that's a different issue.. possibly related to network manager.. personally I use wicd for control.. seems much more stable..  As for the video it almost sounds like it's overscanning.. will ctrl+alt+F2 give you a terminal prompt?
[05:18] <justin_> No.
[05:18] <skrag> maco: yeah i get a 192.168 IP its weird because i can run the server and query it from outside, but the query program is telling me that outgoing connections could be blocked
[05:18] <Scunizi> justin_: when you boot do you see the grub menu? if so use the rescue kernel to attempt fixing the video.
[05:18] <gmonnie> anybody know how to change the login screen on 9.10
[05:18] <justin_> Yeah, I can get to grub.
[05:18] <justin_> I did.
[05:18] <justin_> "xfix" does nothing.
[05:19] <cipher> can you do a virus scan on windows from ubuntu with a wubi install?
[05:19] <justin_> All I can do is get to the command line.
[05:19] <polarsky> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/01/02/how-to-replace-ubuntus-default-brown-login-window/
[05:19] <maco> skrag: if outsiders can reach it you should be ok
[05:19] <polarsky> and u can pick up sum gdm themes
[05:19] <polarsky> on gnome look
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> gmonnie, changing the GDM login theme is non-trival in 9.10+ right now - you can try Epidermis https://launchpad.net/epidermis or gdm2setup https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup - i haven't had any luck with either myself, hope your luck is better
[05:19] <epoh> gnome <3
[05:19] <eric__> how do u update firefox in bt4
[05:19] <patrick-1> Flannel: okay, whatever. ill rebuild apache2 also...
[05:19] <polarsky> oh hello epoh
[05:19] <Scunizi> justin_: well.. from the command line you have the ability to diagnose and fix things.. however this one is a bit beyond me.. hopefully someone will pick up the thread and guide you through it.
[05:19] <renegaid> does ubuntu have a search for program feature. hate scrolling through menus. That's old school
[05:20] <epoh> hello polarsky
[05:20] <polarsky> heh grub2
[05:20] <epoh> lol
[05:20] <eric__> no its old
[05:20] <Scunizi> renegaid: kubutu does.. :)  it's pretty nice
[05:20] <polarsky> nearly no documentation with grub2
[05:20] <evilbug> my system won't load login and so i can't enter at all. i get an error saying /etc/fstab can't be found but it is where it's supposed to be. the uuid in fstab and /dev/disk/by-uuid is different. i'm on xubuntu 9.10, what can i do?
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack | eric__
[05:20] <polarsky> how did /etc/fstab get deleted?
[05:21] <justin_> Hey, I am trying to fix my X server. I think it is a problem with my  onboard graphics card. I removed the old one because it is broke. I also can't connect to the internet. Can someone help me?
[05:21] <cipher> Does anyone know if you can run a virus scan on windows from ubuntu on a wubi install?
[05:21] <eric__> so no one knows how to update ubuntu
[05:21] <evilbug> polarsky: it didn't get deleted. apparently it can't be found but i checked and it's where it's supposed to be.
[05:21] <r00t__> eric__,
[05:21] <r00t__> What was your question?
[05:21] <skrag> maco: i wish it were that simple, i cant seem to figure out whats blocking my server from gettin out if theres no software firewall on my end and my router is set up right
[05:21] <polarsky> welll
[05:21] <polarsky> u may have a backup file
[05:21] <Scunizi> justin_: just a quick thought.... did you turn on the onboard graphics in the bios after removing the old card?
[05:21] <eric__> i need to know hot to update ubuntu
[05:21] <polarsky> /etc/fstab.bak
[05:21] <DaemonLee> eric__, goto terminal.
[05:21] <DaemonLee> type in sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:21] <eric__> ok
[05:21] <epoh> ah, ubuntu.
[05:21] <maco> skrag: dont you only have to worry about things getting in?
[05:22] <polarsky> cp /etc/fstab.bak /etc/fstab
[05:22] <polarsky> as root of course.
[05:22] <eric__> done
[05:22] <eric__> what now
[05:22] <DaemonLee> Congratulations. You updated.
[05:22] <goddard> what are the right cmod settings for web serving files on apache?
[05:22] <DaemonLee> :D
[05:22] <AgentX> Can 10.04 RC be upgrade to the final release when it is released? (apt-get upgrade)?
[05:22] <DaemonLee> Unless you want the new version of Ubuntu.
[05:22] <skrag> maco: unfortuntaly no, my server has to comunicate with the master server so other players can see it on the server list
[05:22] <polarsky> well eric_
[05:22] <evilbug> polarsky: one sec.
[05:22] <polarsky> just restart
[05:22] <Scunizi> eric__: to do it completely type .... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... dist-upgrade will *not* take you to the next release.
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> AgentX, yes see !final in #ubuntu+1
[05:22] <polarsky> i men evilbug
[05:22] <wasutton3> does anyone know if i can have a mounted fat32 partition in ubuntu also mounted as a disk to a vbox guest at the same time?
[05:22] <polarsky> srry
[05:22] <polarsky> lol
[05:22] <FloodBot1> polarsky: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <AgentX> ZykoticK9: tanks
[05:23] <polarsky> @cipher
[05:23] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, Did Eric want to upgrade to the new distro?
[05:23] <Scunizi> wasutton3: no.. but you can via samba
[05:23] <polarsky> u can use clamav
[05:23] <polarsky> to scan /host
[05:23] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: read my post again.. dist-upgrade *doesn't* take you to the next release
[05:23] <evilbug> polarsky: there's no backup.
[05:24] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, I know. I thought he just wanted to do a normal update.
[05:24] <polarsky> ls /etc | grep fstab
[05:24] <polarsky> well hope.
[05:24] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: that is a full normal update
[05:24] <Juzzy> ls /etc/*fstab*
[05:24] <Juzzy> :/
[05:24] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, I'm aware. I didn't know that he wanted to do a Distro Upgrade.
[05:24] <wasutton3> Scunizi: i would except the guest is osx, and its kinda cranky with the networking
[05:24] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: again.. it's not a distro upgrade......
[05:24] <evilbug> polarsky: i ran cp but there is no fstab.bak
[05:24] <cipher> yes polarsky?
[05:25] <polarsky> oh there is one more way
[05:25] <polarsky> sudo blkid
[05:25] <DaemonLee> Scunizi, I know that. I didn't know that he wanted to do a distro upgrade.
[05:25] <evilbug> polarsky: talking to me?
[05:25] <polarsky> yes
[05:25] <polarsky> @cipher, all ur windows files are located in /host in wubi
[05:25] <polarsky> u can use clamav to scan it
[05:26] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:26] <polarsky> @evilbug, use ur livedisc
[05:26] <polarsky> and copy the fstab file from there
[05:26] <evilbug> polarsky: ok. apparently fstab is hosting the correct uuid for root.
[05:26] <goddard> I am trying to figure out the best CHMOD values for severing PHP files on an Apache webserver
[05:26] <Scunizi> DaemonLee: ok.. let's clarify this.. dist-upgrade does not do a distro upgrade.. it *WILL* upgrade package to the next version if they are available for the release that he's using.. If he's on 9.10 he'll stay on 9.10 but stuff like OpenOffice might get the next version.
[05:27] <skrag> what is another way to run stuff besides "./"??
[05:27] <cipher> polarsky:ok,great because I have a NASTY virus that took over admin priviliges and basically locked me out of windows. thank you
[05:27] <Juzzy> skrag: PATH=. and then just type it out
[05:27] <Juzzy> or /full/path/to/file
[05:27] <Juzzy> or if its a script: bash blah.sh
[05:27] <polarsky> than use output from blkid
[05:27] <polarsky> the UID part
[05:27] <polarsky> and make the changes to the fstab file
[05:28] <skrag> juzzy thanks
[05:28] <epoh> polarsky, pm
[05:28] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:28] <Juzzy> justin_: setup /etc/network/interfaces
[05:29] <evilbug> polarsky: my fstab has the correct uuid but the system somehow can't see it.
[05:29] <polarsky> justin_
[05:29] <evilbug> polarsky: could it be an xserver issue?
[05:29] <ennui> for some reason my screen resolution is diffrent on my log in screen
[05:29] <zhangchunlei> how to uninstall win2-7 Pack in ubuntu 10.04 Rc
[05:29] <polarsky> use iwlist
[05:29] <evilbug> polarsky: what happens is that i boot, select my kernel, boot splash comes on for a while, and then black screen instead of login.
[05:29] <polarsky> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[05:30] <polarsky> @evilbug, has that happened?
[05:30] <cyclopse> how to install kde4 ?
[05:30] <evilbug> polarsky: yes. that's what my problem is. started today for no reason.
[05:30] <zhangchunlei> how to uninstall win2-7 Pack in ubuntu 10.04 Rc
[05:30] <polarsky> and the fstab is missing
[05:31] <polarsky> well did u attempt making new one?
[05:31] <polarsky> via livecd
[05:31] <polarsky> did u edit the fstab file and make it correspond with output from blkid?
[05:31] <evilbug> polarsky: no. i looked and the fstab is there. now i'll try copying the one from the livecd onto my hdd.
[05:31] <UbuntuBoy> great article on the new Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid: http://techbytes4.wordpress.com/ Good blog, I recommend subscribing.
[05:31] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:31] <evilbug> polarsky: my fstab displays everything correctly.
[05:31] <polarsky> remember to sudo blkid
[05:31] <polarsky> and make sure the uids match
[05:31] <Flannel> UbuntuBoy: Please don't advertise here, thanks
[05:31] <cyclopse> apt-get install kde4 , so not works
[05:31] <polarsky> get kubuntu
[05:31] <Flannel> zhangchunlei: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support, thanks.
[05:32] <zhangchunlei> thanks
[05:32] <xangua> cyclopse: try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <zhangchunlei> Flannel, thanks
[05:32] <cyclopse> xangua, wow it worked
[05:32] <cyclopse> thanks
[05:33] <justin_> How do I get internet working from the command line?
[05:33] <polarsky> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[05:33] <polarsky> justin_ read
[05:33] <evilbug> polarsky: that did the trick. thank you very very much.
[05:33] <YC\> Is it going to be possible to upgrade directly from 8.10 to 10.04?
[05:34] <polarsky> ur welcome evilbug
[05:34] <polarsky> @justin_ make sure u check ur interface first
[05:34] <polarsky> with ifconfig
[05:34] <polarsky> tho most ppl are on eth0
[05:34] <polarsky> u might be on eth1
[05:34] <polarsky> just check.
[05:36] <justin_> Thank you, polarsky. I got it working. Didn't know the last step.
[05:36] <justin_> dhclient and all.
[05:37] <polarsky> ur welcome mate. :)
[05:37] <Flannel> YC\: No, 8.04 to 10.04, or 9.10 to 10.04.  From 8.10 you have to go 8.10 > 9.04 > 9.10 > 10.04
[05:38] <evilbug> polarsky: thanks again for your help.
[05:38] <voss749> YC, sure install ubuntu 10.04 CD, click install and click format hard drive :)
[05:38] <YC\> Heh. Thanks. :)
[05:38] <roshanjames> hello! I am a ubuntu-newbie: I cant get notify-send to work. I have libnotify-bin version 0.4.5 and notify-osd 0.9.25 (I am on Karmic Kaola 9.10). When I type in `notify-send "test" "test"` nothing shows up. There are no error messages also.
[05:39] <voss749> YC, unless you have a superfast internet connection the sanest way to do it is back up all your personal documents and install 10.04 as a clean install.
[05:39] <polarsky> thx, glad to help
[05:39] <roshanjames> Sorry (notify-osd version 0.9.24 not 25).
[05:39] <YC\> Yeah, does seem like it, huh? :)
[05:40] <YC\> Thanks for your help, folks.
[05:41] <voss749> YC, on the other hand if you can always do an AFK upgrade, upgrade-rinse-lather-repeat 4 times :)
[05:42] <justin__> Now I have the internet back on this computer.
[05:42] <justin__> All I need is help getting the Xserver working.
[05:42] <polarsky> justin
[05:42] <Doyle> Q: When copying something from a program then closing the program before pasting it, the copied text isn't available to be pasted. Is there a setting to change this?
[05:42] <polarsky> oic
[05:42] <justin__> Yes, polarsky?
[05:42] <polarsky> ur in x
[05:42] <justin__> polarsky: No I am not. I am connecting to this place via the program irssi from the command line.
[05:43] <xangua> Doyle: if you use gnome try Parcellite
[05:44] <Doyle> xangua: thanks
[05:44] <polarsky> lol u mean /exec -o ssh
[05:44] <roshanjames> Any suggestions about my notify-send issue? Anyone?
[05:44] <polarsky> or u got internet up, so u can use irssi
[05:44] <patrick_> I want to install multiple desktop environments, but I dont want any of my defualt apps to get messed up and I dont want my splash screen to get messed up either, or my login manager. How can i do this? I would like lxde, xfce, and Enlightenment
[05:44] <polarsky> well patrick, u can installem, but to use em
[05:44] <polarsky> change session type
[05:45] <polarsky> when ur at gdm
[05:45] <polarsky> like i can choose between gnome, flux, and openbox
[05:45] <patrick_> polarsky, in the past they are all fighting over splash screen and login manager, at one point I had a xubuntu splash screen, a kde login manager and a gnome boot. all in one go.
[05:45] <roshanjames> I cant get notify-send to work: I have libnotify-bin version 0.4.5 and notify-osd 0.9.24 (I am on Karmic Kaola 9.10). When I type in `notify-send "test" "test"` nothing shows up. There are no error messages also.
[05:46] <patrick_> polarsky, do I need to get a "core" version? or a "lite" version or something?
[05:47] <polarsky> srry ive never had thoseissues turn up before
[05:47] <Shamoun> what is a good calendar app that will sync both ways with google calendar?
[05:47] <polarsky> so, dont kno what to tell ya bro.
[05:47] <patrick_> polarsky, which things do you install for synaptic?
[05:47] <scunizi> Shamoun: sunbird/thunderbird = lightening .. or kalendar a kde app
[05:47] <polarsky> well actually
[05:47] <polarsky> im not using ubuntu
[05:47]  * polarsky uses sabayon
[05:48] <Shamoun> i never liked sunbird
[05:48] <polarsky> i had openbox and flux
[05:48] <patrick_> polarsky, ah.
[05:48] <polarsky> and they never gave me trouble
[05:48] <Shamoun> i guess i could try kalendar
[05:48] <scunizi> Shamoun: you'd be better off with sunbird on gnome.. kalendar will pull in tons of libs and maybe not enough to sync with google
[05:49] <patrick_> so do I want lxde, lxde-common, or lxde-core?
[05:49] <polarsky> kalender will force u to install kde dependancies
[05:49] <Shamoun> scunizi, hmm, good to know thanks
[05:49] <polarsky> i think apt-get install lxde
[05:49] <scunizi> Shamoun: if you're running kubuntu (kde) then that would be the answer.
[05:49] <polarsky> should do the trick
[05:50] <patrick_> same for xfce?
[05:50] <patrick_> and E?
[05:51] <polarsky> not sure.
[05:51] <Shamoun> hmm, well i am still running windows 7. i am trying to figure out whether i want to do ubuntu / kubuntu on this system
[05:51] <polarsky> lxde is nice and lightweight tho
[05:51] <polarsky> Shamoun theres nobig difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[05:51] <skrag> do you have to do something special to open up ports above the 10000 range in 9.10?
[05:51] <scunizi> Shamoun: install virtualbox from virtualbox.org and run them both in a virtual machine to see.
[05:52] <polarsky> pick one or theother if u like gnome or kde or vice versa
[05:52] <polarsky> more*
[05:52] <polarsky> skrag
[05:52] <polarsky> nope
[05:53] <polarsky> u must however, be root to listen to ports lower than 1024
[05:53] <polarsky> or i mean, bind to
[05:53] <polarsky> whatever lol.
[05:53] <fillayy> Does anyone know how I can get my Network Manager back onto my Panel/
[05:54] <polarsky> right click
[05:54] <polarsky> add to panel
[05:54] <fillayy> Its not there :(
[05:54] <geirha> fillayy: network-manager resides in the notification area, so you've likely removed that somehow
[05:54] <fillayy> geirha, how do I get it back?
[05:55] <geirha> !panels | fillayy
[05:55] <geirha> fillayy: Or right click, add to panel, notification area
[05:55] <fillayy> sweet dude, thanks geirha
[05:57] <cLuCk-cLuUk> hello everyone.. awfully quiet in here
[05:57] <scunizi> the calm before the storm
[05:57] <polarsky> well said.
[05:58] <cLuCk-cLuUk> seems like the new release doesn't have much enthusiasm..
[05:59]  * scunizi knows the pattern.. alls quiet toward the beginning of the next release.. most questions are technical and a little more advanced.. after a release questions are much more basic
[05:59] <scunizi> cLuCk-cLuUk: lots.. but it's all being discussed in #ubuntu+1
[06:00] <polarsky> i didnt like the new color scheme
[06:00] <fatboy-ubuntu-re> i'm having trouble mounting my windows partition on ubuntu remix 9.10
[06:00] <mellis> anyone know anything about apt-cacher-ng
[06:00] <fatboy-ubuntu-re> how do i mount?
[06:00] <polarsky> press the icon of the mountable media
[06:01] <polarsky> should be on ur lower toolbar
[06:01] <polarsky> and press mount
[06:01] <polarsky> u can also change settings to add automounting
[06:01] <fatboy-ubuntu-re> i can mount anything else, just not the windows partition
[06:02] <polarsky> farboy
[06:02] <polarsky> install ntfs-config
[06:02] <polarsky> than go to system > administration > ntfs configuration tool
[06:03] <alkisg> fatboy-ubuntu-re: try this command from a terminal, and see if it produces any error output. Replace sda1 with your windows partition number: sudo udisks --mount /dev/sda1
[06:03] <polarsky> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[06:03] <alkisg> Ah sorry that's lucid
[06:03] <polarsky> the link i just posted
[06:03] <polarsky> is for lucid
[06:03] <polarsky> should work anyhow tho
[06:05] <polarsky> gotta run, night folks.
[06:05] <scunizi> night
[06:09] <gantrixx> has anyone had any luck getting 9.10 to run on a Dell Studio 15 (one of the newer ones with the intel wifi chips)?
[06:09] <Alcor> Can you wifi into a usb dongle to get to ubuntu?
[06:11] <Alcor> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[06:11] <bazhang> Alcor, please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <theadmin> bazhang: He did ask a question
[06:12] <Alcor> k
[06:13] <the_file> I am trying to combine the applications, system, and places menus into one but can't figure it out!
[06:14] <Kasm279> whats the game that its a 2D platform shooter with the players looking like kirby
[06:14] <Kasm279> the title was german i think
[06:14] <scunizi> Kasm279: padman?
[06:14] <h00k> the_file: there is an applet called Gnome Menu that you can add
[06:14] <alkisg> Kasm279: teeworlds?
[06:14] <Kasm279> YES
[06:14] <Kasm279> thanks you alkisg
[06:14] <alkisg> np
[06:15] <Kasm279> i couldn't remember tha name and i dont have an ubuntu machine ATM
[06:15] <Kasm279> anyway, later
[06:17] <Alcor> I guess game questions are more "on-topic" than the tech question I asked...
[06:17] <scunizi> Alcor: the one you asked before didn't make much sense
[06:18] <Alcor> I guess I should have asked if the usb port was bi-directional in ubuntu...
[06:19] <scunizi> Alcor: yes.. and a usb wifi dongle will typically work for connections if it's the right chipset
[06:20] <greezmunkey> Alcor: I used a linksys usb600n for a long time on this machine, worked great.
[06:21] <Alcor> scunizi How do you know which chipset to use?  Is there a list?
[06:21] <h00k> the_file: right click on your panel up top, click Add to Panel, find the Gnome Menu (not the custom Gnome menubar) ad add that
[06:21] <gh0ghnus> hello, i don't understand this command: arunsb@laptop:/tmp/initrd-src$ gzip -dc  /tmp/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic  | cpio -id can any one help me? why we use -c to extract initrd image? is any other command or switch?
[06:21] <Daughain> Anyone familiar with synching Android to Ubuntu via wifi?
[06:21] <Alcor> greezmunkey thx Greez
[06:22] <Traveler> Hi, Quick question I have a laptop running ubuntu its a bit laggy with only 512mb I was wondering if I purchased 1gb more would I see a decent increase in speed? Also my laptop currently is using 533mhz the extra ram is 667mhz which is compatable with my laptop will these two be compatible with each other?
[06:22] <scunizi> Alcor: not sure about a list.. greezmunkey gave one suggestion.. you might also check in ##linux or #hardware.. but #hardware is more OS neutral
[06:23] <Alcor> scunizi thx
[06:23] <greezmunkey> scunizi: I hade to compile the driver though, not an easy option, took three tries to get it stable! After that though...nice.
[06:23] <scunizi> Traveler: for best performance and to reduce "problems" you should match type and speed of ram
[06:23] <scunizi> greezmunkey: I've used a netgear.. with no issue.. but I can't remember the model
[06:23] <Bohemian> how do i make this symlink? The workaround is to make symlink 'ctools/delegator/plugins/tasks/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc' to member:file 'i18n/i18ntaxonomy/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc'.
[06:23] <Bohemian> is that ln -s ctools/delegator/plugins/tasks/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc i18n/i18ntaxonomy/i18ntaxonomy.pages.inc ?
[06:24] <h00k> Bohemian: that appears right. Maybe check the manpage for 'ln'
[06:24] <h00k> Bohemian: I'l quite tired, so maybe doublecheck the manpage
[06:25] <Losha> gh0ghnus: gzip -dc uncompresses to stdout which means the results get fed to cpio which extracts (-i) and creates directories (-d) as needed...
[06:25] <Traveler> scunizi, that was my initial thought but the shop is out of stock.
[06:26] <azlon> how can i block a user on irc in pidgin?
[06:26] <scunizi> Traveler: then get 2.. of the same type that's available and sell the old one..
[06:26] <greezmunkey> Traveler: it's worth the wait to get it right. 1GB of ddr2 is about 20-25 dollars right now. put as much as you can in you LT, and make it compatible speed/size, otherwise you're inviting trouble.
[06:27] <scunizi> azlon: pidgin is a good IM client but not a good IRC client.. you might switch to xchat or irssi
[06:28] <Traveler> greezmunkey, if only it was $20-25 for laptop sodimm were looking at like $40 here in australia
[06:28] <azlon> scunizi: dude, you're still here? you were here when i went to sleep last night, now its 8:30 am and you're still here...
[06:28] <greezmunkey> Traveler: Ah, exchange rates - be happy you're not in Grece right now...
[06:28] <greezmunkey> Greece
[06:29] <scunizi> azlon: it's 10:28 pm here. last night I couldn't sleep so stayed up till 2am.. 'bout ready to go to bed
[06:29] <greezmunkey> scunizi: PST as am I
[06:29] <gh0ghnus> Losha: thanks, is it possible to do this work without using cpio or first use gzip and then use cpio (without pipe). gzip says unknown suffix if you remove second part and i can't find how to do this.
[06:29] <scunizi> greezmunkey: yepper.. so.cal.
[06:29] <azlon> ugh, i miss PST...
[06:30] <Traveler> well i think i might go with scunizi idea and just get the faster and ditch the old one if they don't work togeather
[06:30] <azlon> scunizi: im from sac originally
[06:30] <Noose215> ?
[06:30] <scunizi> azlon: my old home town.. antioch
[06:30] <greezmunkey> I agree, with scunizi, worked 12 hrs today... Good night all!
[06:30] <azlon> no kidding, i am from placerville
[06:31] <Losha> gh0ghnus: try:  gzip -dc < /tmp/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic | cpio -id   (I added a '<' sign)
[06:31] <scunizi> Night all!
[06:33] <azlon> oh yeah, tomorrow is the big day... 10.04
[06:33] <azlon> is it smart to upgrade immediately or should i wait a couple weeks for bugs to be worked out?
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, depends how critical the system is
[06:34] <azlon> lol, ok so i will wait
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, and what redundancy you have available
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, :-)
[06:34] <Losha> azlon: wait until it stabilizes. A month or so...
[06:34] <mosno> azlon, if it is critical, you should have a tested backup/restore procedure anyway
[06:34] <azlon> mosno: by no means is this system critical, but i dont want to put up with the hassle
[06:35] <mosno> azlon, then what Losha said sounds reasonable
[06:35] <azlon> awesome
[06:36] <gh0ghnus> Losh: thanks. why we can't remove second part? (cpio -i) . thanks anyway.
[06:37] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:37] <rickfisher> I need some help with a stubborn 9.10 that won't boot. Tried Super Grub .9799 and won't boot. Dual booting Win 7 and worked fine for a while. what file do you need to see to help me?
[06:37] <gh0ghnus> Losha: thanks. why we can't remove second part? (cpio -i) . thanks anyway.
[06:37] <chillindave> What's the trick to access grub in 10.04?  It skips it and I can't access my other OS.
[06:37] <maco> chillindave: shift?
[06:38] <Losha> gh0ghnus: you can, but the whole point is to decompress (gzip) then unpack (cpio). What use is just decompressing it?
[06:38] <chillindave> maco, Alright.  I'm having a difficult time fixing the Windows boot.  So far nothing I've tried works.... I'll see where that gets me.
[06:39] <xTheGoat121x> It's not really a huge issue but I've noticed that on my Atheros card, my wireless cuts out at random intervals
[06:41] <rickfisher> chillindave have you tried Super Grub disk? Have you run Windoze repair?
[06:41] <dxc> what's the time now ?
[06:41] <rickfisher> Hammer time?
[06:41] <jotall> time to get ill?
[06:42] <dxc> Your time
[06:42] <rickfisher> time keeps on slipping
[06:42] <dxc> yes
[06:42] <rickfisher> How do I quote someones name before responding to them?
[06:42] <maco> rickfisher: start typing their name and hit tab
[06:42] <znxtch> Does anyone know if IPod classic will work with Ubuntu Lucid?  I've asked in #Ubuntu+1 but the room is dead.  I want to buy an IPOD classic today since I cant get my touch working I just wanted to check first.
[06:42] <rickfisher> Any help on Boot issues?
[06:42] <chillindave> rickfisher, Super Grub disk?  Yes to the second one, it doesn't work.
[06:42] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:43] <chillindave> It skips the grub menu at boot and goes straight into the desktop.
[06:43] <h00k> znxtch: yes
[06:43] <rickfisher> maco, I see
[06:43] <dxc> How to get grub update
[06:43] <rickfisher> maco, Great!
[06:43] <h00k> znxtch: although, even if it is dead, it's still the proper place ;)
[06:43] <rickfisher> dxc, what grub do you have?
[06:44] <znxtch> well my mission is time senstive
[06:44] <znxtch> i have a widow of oppurtunity to get the classic
[06:44] <Losha> h00k: why is it dead? I'd have thought it would be bubbling on the eve of a release....
[06:44] <znxtch> so im desperate
[06:44] <znxtch> :D
[06:44] <rickfisher> chillindave, does it boot into win or Ubuntu?
[06:44] <h00k> Losha: I don't know, there isn't a ton of activity at the moment, perhaps people are sleeping
[06:44] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:44] <chillindave> rickfisher, Ubuntu
[06:45] <Losha> h00k: all working on deadlines maybe...
[06:46] <rickfisher> chillindave, Did you try to hit the shift key when booting?
[06:46] <chillindave> rickfisher, Yeap, still goes straight into Ubuntu desktop.
[06:46] <chillindave> rickfisher, Every other version prior to 10.04 always gave me the grub menu.
[06:47] <CircuitBug> i am using a webcam for which i cant get proper support online.....lsusb returns :0c45:62b3 Microdia PC Camera with Microphone (SN9C202 + OV9655)
[06:48] <CircuitBug> can someone please help
[06:48] <rickfisher> chillindave, yea somehow the time got set to zero instead of 15 sec.
[06:48] <chillindave> rickfisher, In /etc/default/grub ?
[06:48] <dxc> I want to give up windows ,but I can't work without the software such as AutoCAD
[06:48] <rickfisher> chillindave, I added startup manager from synaptic and solved that problem
[06:48] <gh0ghnus> Losha: i want use just gzip. if you use file command on initrd, it says this is a gzip archive. but if you use gzip, it says unknown command. i used this one for example: gzip -d -S "" initrd... only -c can help, because printing in stdout and then using cpio.
[06:49] <justin_> I  need help configuring my xserver. I have a VIA onboard video chip and nothing I do is working.
[06:49] <chillindave> rickfisher, Alright, I'll give that a try.
[06:49] <rickfisher> justin what ubuntu are you using?
[06:49] <gh0ghnus> Losha: "it says unknown suffix" sorry
[06:50] <frankie_> hello i am trying to install flash on ubuntu 10.04 neeed help!
[06:50] <rickfisher> chillindave, I have dual monitors and I need to fight Nvidia to set them up now so I might be off line for a few minutes
[06:50] <dxc> Maybe I need to have a rest
[06:50] <wildbat> !lucid
[06:50] <chillindave> rickfisher, Alright, thank you.
[06:50] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[06:51] <dxc> Thanks ,rickfisher !
[06:51] <mmica> Hi all ;]
[06:51] <rickfisher> frankie_, go to Sytem then down to Administration then down to Hardware Drivers
[06:52] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[06:52] <hnd> mmica: hi :)
[06:52] <sp0spo> beep is for the system speaker is there somethign that is similar to the beep at boot?
[06:53] <frankie_> thanks it works
[06:53] <mmica> sp0soo: yep
[06:53] <sp0spo> what is it called?
[06:54] <rickfisher> frankie_, you are welcome
[06:54] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[06:54] <Losha> gh0ghnus: actually, on my local system, -c doesn't work, and I have to do: gzip -d < /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-26-generic | cpio -id
[06:54] <frankie_> :) !
[06:54] <mmica> sp0spo: differently,.. most an issue
[06:55] <CircuitBug> i am using a webcam for which i cant get proper support online.....lsusb returns :0c45:62b3 Microdia PC Camera with Microphone (SN9C202 + OV9655)
[06:55] <CircuitBug> can someone please help
[06:56] <sp0spo> when i reboot my computer the motherboard beeps... that is not the pc speaker of my computer.. what is that? the mb speaker?
[06:56] <hnd> sp0spo: the inbuilt speaker...
[06:57] <dean[w]> Suggestions for a decent twitter client? I've given up using Tweetdeck on linux. Too many problems
[06:57] <mmica> sp0spo: but also an information about an issue.. graphics card?
[06:57] <CircuitBug> sp0spo: it probably the speaker in your mother board....to turn it off just go to your bios settings and desable it
[06:58] <sp0spo> circuitbug, i want to be able for it to beep when i have a task complete... the regular beep/would only work if my monitor is turned to pc rather than video game system display
[06:58] <bryanr> guys
[06:58] <bryanr> this is the last day before 10.04
[06:59] <CircuitBug> so whats the problem?
[06:59] <gh0ghnus> Losha: that's it. i think you pressed tab and tab completion dosen't work. but if you type the whole name and  press enter it's work fine.
[06:59] <mmica> sp0spo: it's a laptop/pc?
[07:00] <sp0spo> pc
[07:00] <sp0spo> what device is the motherbaord or internal speaker anyways?
[07:01] <mmica> sp0spo: motherboard
[07:01] <sp0spo> what /dev/ deice?
[07:02] <justin_> My xserver still doesn't work.
[07:02] <justin_> I need some serious help.
[07:02] <JumboJellyfish> your xserver?
[07:03] <JumboJellyfish> is that, like, the guy who sells you ecstasy?
[07:03] <justin_> My machine is an old Everex PC, with those cheap VIA motherboards that are tiny. It comes with an onboard video that works with Linux out the box, but I had upgraded to a different card awhile back, and it broke, and now I can't switch back.
[07:03] <Kaze> hi just need some advise should I use x64 for AMD PC ? I already have intsalled i386 so any easy way to change kernel ?
[07:03] <sp0spo> i want to make my motherboard beep from ubutnu, how do i do this
[07:03] <Losha> JumboJellyfish: less comedy, more support, please
[07:04] <chillindave> rickfisher, Fixed it finally using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1302743
[07:04] <chillindave> I wish I had found that about 5 hours ago.....
[07:04] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[07:04] <justin_> I also can't seem to use the program "screen" from the console, which prevents me from using irssi and elinks at the same time.
[07:04] <mmica> sp0spo: check this card.. or the card is good inserted
[07:04] <Flannel> justin_: What error/message/whatever does it give you?
[07:05] <plustax]> I am having an issue getting my webcam to work with tinychat and other web based flash applications. Can anyone help me? Also, in stickam the chats themselves look very glitchy to me and my cam doesnt work sometimes. Tinychat doesnt work at all.
[07:05] <justin_> Flannel: none. It simply hangs when loading the xserver.
[07:05] <plustax]> Anyone help me out?
[07:05] <rww> justin_: umm. screen doesn't use the xserver o.O
[07:05] <Flannel> justin_: Xserver? screen?
[07:06] <justin_> rww: I have no idea why screen isn't working from the console. It is less important to me than getting the xserver running. It is just limiting me further as I can use multiple consoles to do other things like surf the web with elinks at the same time, looking for a solution.
[07:06] <justin_> *as I can't
[07:06] <wildbat> sssd
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:06] <plustax]> I am having an issue getting my webcam to work with tinychat and other web based flash applications. Can anyone help me? Also, in stickam the chats themselves look very glitchy to me and my cam doesnt work sometimes. Tinychat doesnt work at all.
[07:06] <Flannel> justin_: ctrl-alt-f1, f2, f3, f4, f5, f6 (that's ctrl-alt-f#) can all be used simultaneously
[07:06] <nerd> I have no sound when I play audio...got it for video, but no audio
[07:06] <bazhang> plustax], please don't repeat so quickly
[07:07] <Flannel> justin_: As a stop gap, of course.  I wouldn't actually consider doing that for prolonged periods ;)
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Plustax]: does it work in cheese?
[07:07] <justin_> Flannel: Thanks for the tip.
[07:07] <Losha> justin_: usually when changing from onboard to card and vice versa there are bios settings you need to change. I assume you've done that?
[07:07] <justin_> Losha: no, I have not.
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:07] <Losha> justin_: that's the first thing to look at, then...
[07:07] <nerd> crap...no..forgot to
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: d'oh ;)
[07:08] <justin_> Losha: How do I get the BIOS again?
[07:08] <nerd> didnt think i had to since i had video playback
[07:08] <mosno> justin_, screwdriver, repeated stabbing motion
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: it installs a tonne of other codecs. Dead handy
[07:08] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[07:08] <nerd> i know..just forgot to do it
[07:08] <Losha> justin_: it varies from mobo to mobo. Sometimes its the del key, sometimes its a function key. Try del first...
[07:09] <justin_> Losha: Ok, I will be back.
[07:09] <nerd> downloading now
[07:09] <nerd> it will play...but theres no sound..will this fix it???
[07:09] <igor47> anyone know anything about running a Xen Dom0 on lucid?
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Circuitbug: the webcam model is moot. Run: lsusb ,one line will identify the chip used and you can websearch for the 8 character hex id
[07:09] <Kaze> Is there any easy way to convert to x64 for AMDs and is it wort it ?
[07:09] <Losha> mosno: less comedy, more support, please
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: should do
[07:10] <igor47> can't find any docs. does one still need to copy a kernel from debian?
[07:10] <nerd> yea..How do i get my webcam to work..It's a Logitech
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | igor47
[07:10] <mr_diggles> holy crap.  ubuntu fail.   dkms is not only undocumented by ubuntu, but generally (google) undocumented.  what a wonderful thing to force users to use.
[07:10] <mosno> Losha, tough crowd?
[07:10] <nerd> k...lets try to play these again
[07:10] <Losha> ActionParsnip: after tomorrow I suppose we won't be able to push them off to #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: the make and model is fairly moot. Run: lsusb ,you can then websearch for the 8 character hex id
[07:11] <Losha> mosno: support first, then comedy is all I'm asking for...
[07:11] <nerd> and still no sound
[07:11] <mosno> Losha, just tried to load the channel guidelines: "Can't connect securely because the SSL protocol has been disabled" -- awesome!
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Losha: as soon as its officially released its all here and #ubuntu+1 will die off
[07:11] <mosno> Losha, but point taken.
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: in all players?
[07:11] <nerd> yes
[07:12] <nerd> xine,vlc,mplayer
[07:12] <Kabz> hi everyone
[07:12] <nerd> but video playes and i have sound
[07:12] <nerd> but not with music
[07:12] <thrillERboy> Hi how to see list of network cards installed on a system?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Nerd: then its gonna take some websearching dude. Sorry. Maybe someone else can contribute. Suprised mplayer failed, its the daddy :
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Thrillerboy: sudo lshw -C network
[07:13] <thrillERboy> thanks ActionParsnip
[07:13] <nerd> its a pci soundcard..not onboard
[07:13] <CircuitBug> lsusb returns :0c45:62b3 Microdia PC Camera with Microphone (SN9C202 + OV9655)
[07:13] <darth5> weid
[07:13] <ywgx> here have girl?
[07:13] <nerd> k...now sound in video is gone
[07:13] <Kabz> Hi do you know a good FPS like counter strike on linux ?
[07:13] <ywgx> here have good girl?
[07:13] <bazhang> ywgx, wrong channel
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Circuitbug: ok go find guides for: 0c45:62b3 ubuntu
[07:13] <CircuitBug> i have searched every where....there is a group on google for it but the driver doesnt work for me
[07:13] <bazhang> ywgx, please stop
[07:14] <ywgx> sorry
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: urban terror
[07:14] <Kabz> I tried it but it's not very good
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: grab the beergarden installer for an easy life
[07:14] <sp0spo> is there a way to do dual audio output.. one through my tv speakers/hdmi audio and also my pc speakers?
[07:14] <Losha> Kabz: everyone's a critic...
[07:14] <ennui> can someone suggest something fo rme to plug into the command line to scan for open ports?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: penumbra is a scary fps
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Ennui: nmap
[07:15] <ywgx> what are you talk?
[07:15] <ywgx> tell me
[07:15] <the_file> Is there any way to make the cursor larger in ubuntu, I can't figure it out.
[07:15] <Daughain> Anyone familiar with synching Android to Ubuntu via wifi?
[07:15] <bazhang> ywgx, ubuntu support
[07:15] <Losha> ywgx: computer support *only*....
[07:15] <bazhang> ywgx, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <Kabz> ActionParsnip I had a look , very good ;)
[07:15] <Kabz> thx
[07:15] <mr_diggles> holy crap.   seriously.  compile my own kernel just for this wireless card.  yay thx ubutnu.  you rox my socks off.  F THAT
[07:15] <ark3qqq> the_file: Do you mean the mouse pointer?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: there is an sshfs client on android you can copy to you system with
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: the demo is free but its worth the cash
[07:16] <the_file> omg
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Mr_diggles: you'll probably find you need to compile the driver, not the kernel
[07:17] <the_file> can't figure out how to make mouse pointer bigger in ubuntu!
[07:17] <the_file> =O
[07:17] <Daughain> ActionParsnip: Can you give me a link?
[07:17] <PaperBoy> hi are svn git and yasm needed to rebuild ffmpeg
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Daughain: its called andftp
[07:17] <PaperBoy> any one know?
[07:17] <Daughain> Thanks!
[07:17] <Kaze> Is there any real benefit in using x64 for AMDs rather than 386 ? how to convert the kernel to x64 currently it's generic
[07:18] <Kaze> anyone ?
[07:18] <ark3qqq> the_file: Take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1119882
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> The_file: look under appearence, or mouse in preferences
[07:18] <justin_> Nothing in BIOS seemed to have anything to do with anything, Flannel.
[07:18] <Losha> PaperBoy: I don't recall. Are you sure you need to rebuild. There are repo versions that do most everything...
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Kaze: you will need to reinstall dude, 64bit can help with audo and video encoding greatly
[07:18] <ywgx> USA?
[07:18] <Losha> justin_: you got into the bios then?
[07:19] <justin_> Losha: Yes, nothing to do there.
[07:19] <Losha> ywgx: international....
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Ywgx: do you have a support question?
[07:19] <ywgx> i have
[07:19] <Losha> justin_: no option to enable/disable onboard video?
[07:19] <PaperBoy> Losha im sure..  someone is guiding me through it
[07:19] <justin_> Losha: no.
[07:19] <PaperBoy> just wanna make sure those packages are safe
[07:19] <Kaze> Thanks actionParsnip
[07:19] <ywgx> I want install freebsd
[07:19] <sp0spo> does ubuntu use palse audio or alsa?
[07:19] <bazhang> ywgx, #freebsd
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Ywgx: *bsd isn't supported here
[07:19] <ennui> actionparsnip: do i run nmap <my ip>  ?
[07:19] <Losha> PaperBoy: if they come from the official repos, they are as safe as it gets
[07:19] <justin_> Losha: onboard video has to be working right now, no? It has to be a problem with the xserver.
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Ennui: read the manpage or online, there are a lot of options but there are nice guides online
[07:20] <Kabz> Do you know Can I download linux games ?
[07:20] <ywgx> freebsd  good or bad?
[07:20] <Sinanthiel> Is ubuntu heavily command based like other linux operating systems?
[07:20] <bazhang> ywgx, thats offtopic here please stop
[07:20] <Kabz> Do you know where Can I download linux games ?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Ywgx: its good but not discussed or supported here
[07:20] <Losha> justin_: you said earlier it worked with a version of linux. Which version?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> !games | kabz
[07:21] <Losha> Sinanthiel: there are guis for most things in Ubuntu, but not quite everything....
[07:21] <justin_> Losha: 7.10 I believe. Everex put a modified version of on there initially, but I just put standard Ubuntu on it. The onboard video does work with Linux, as I have used it before.
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Kabz: if you had an MSX back in the day I recommend you get F1-Spirit its awesome
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[07:21] <Sinanthiel> I want to learn linux, but I want something easy to start with.
[07:21] <ywgx> i will tomorrow install  freebsd  and ubuntu 10.04  in  my notepad
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: gutsy is dead dude. I miss the gibbon
[07:22] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, fine
[07:22] <Kaze> Forgive me ops mods but these questions are from more like bots than ppl they seem so false is this a joke ?
[07:22] <Losha> justin_: I misunderstood you. I though you said the onboard video once worked with linux. Are you saying onboard has *never* worked with *any* linux version
[07:22] <Sinanthiel> Is ubuntu ideal for beginners?
[07:22] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, i can help you (if you help me)
[07:22] <thrillERboy> Hi how to stop eth0. I get the error <interface up or not permission: Operation not permitted>
[07:22] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, yes
[07:23] <justin_> thrillERboy: sudo ifconfig down eth0
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Kaze: ubottu just makes our lives easier, you can imagine a lot of folks ask the same stuff so we can make her say stuff
[07:23] <thrillERboy> thanks justin_
[07:23] <rafaelsoaresbr> Sinanthiel, one of the most
[07:23] <Sinanthiel> friendforall> how can I help you?
[07:23] <Losha> Sinanthiel: ubuntu is ok for beginners. Linux mint is possibly even better. Or perhaps SuSe, or Mandriva. Lots of choices...
[07:23] <plustax]> ActionParsnip
[07:24] <plustax]> my cam does indeed work with cheese
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> ?
[07:24] <plustax]> im upgrading to lucid lynx
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Plustax]: cool
[07:24] <Sinanthiel> Thanks guys..Now I have to chose... :)
[07:24] <plustax]> should that fix some things?
[07:24] <justin_> Losha: How am I going to fix this? dprk-reconfigure xserver-xorg just askes me questions about my keyboard...
[07:24] <Sinanthiel> choose*
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Sinanthiel: try a few, they all have advantages and disadvantages
[07:24] <justin_> Sinanthiel: just choose Ubuntu. It has the broadest range of support, which is the most important thing for newbies.
[07:24] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, It is simple . I need DVD of a OS which you need to send to me
[07:24] <Losha> justin_: you can start by answering my question above...
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Plustax]: maybe and maybe not. Try a livecd to test ;)
[07:25] <plustax]> kk
[07:25] <rafaelsoaresbr> Losha, do you use any rolling release linux?
[07:25] <thrillERboy> justin_, I get this <eth0: Unknown host>
[07:25] <ranjan> hi all...which is the best filesystem for a 1.5 TB portable storage
[07:25] <justin_> Losha: I thought I did. In any case, I can't scroll up in irssi, or if I can't, I dont know how to.
[07:25] <Sinanthiel> friendforall> no thanks... I can get help elsewhere.
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: page up/down
[07:25] <franknie> how do i install flying toasters
[07:25] <justin_> thrillERboy: type ifconfig and see if you see what you want to stop.
[07:25] <azlon> i have a software raid 5 running. every time i reboot it resyncs (takes about 1800 hours). how can i find out why it keeps resyncing?
[07:25] <azlon> 1800 minutes... my bad
[07:25] <Losha> rafaelsoaresbr: I run Ubuntu 8.04. In a couple of months, if 10.04 looks ok, I will upgrade to it...
[07:26] <thrillERboy> ranjan depends on which OS you use. NTFS is good for swapping b/w windows and Ubuntu
[07:26] <friendforall> Sinanthiel, if you want then i will give you 5 dollar for cost
[07:26] <justin_> Losha: No. This onboard video works with Linux. I believe it works with the openchrome drivers.
[07:26] <ranjan> thrillERboy, i just want use it with linux
[07:26] <Sinanthiel> Is ubuntu free to download?
[07:26] <Addison> Greetings gentlemen!  :)
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Sinanthiel: absolutely
[07:26] <ranjan> Sinanthiel, yes
[07:26] <bazhang> friendforall, what are you talking about
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Sinanthiel: linux by nature is free and open
[07:26] <Losha> justin_: sorry, never heard of them. Time to start googling I expect...
[07:26] <Sinanthiel> Sweet
[07:26] <ranjan> Sinanthiel, to download,share ,modify,redistribute
[07:27] <Sinanthiel> Awesome
[07:27] <Losha> Sinanthiel: www.ubuntu.com. Plenty of information there...
[07:27] <sp0spo> init.d replaces modprobe?
[07:27] <sp0spo> what replaces modprobe?
[07:27] <justin_> I need some serious help getting the openchrome drivers to work with my VIA onboard video chip (I think it is S3 Unichrome Pro). Can anyone possibly help me out with this? I have no Xserver.
[07:28] <friendforall> bazhang, i need OS which i can not download for my connection speed. For this reason i need some help from some one who can send me the DVD copy
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> sp0spo; modprobe won't be replaced. Its needed to load and unload modules
[07:28] <rafaelsoaresbr> Sinanthiel, ubuntu is easy to install, and there's lots of guys that can help you here
[07:28] <ranjan> What about GFS
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: sounds like you'll need an xorg.conf
[07:28] <bazhang> friendforall, this is not the place to ask; try a local lug or contact shipit.com
[07:28] <Sinanthiel> Well, I'm on my nintendo ds and can't browse the internet.That's why I'm asking questions
[07:28] <Addison> Hey guys.  I'm trying to extract a stupid file to a stupid ext2 partition on my stupid memory card but I'm getting permission denied errors of unhappiness.  Could someone lend a hand on this?
[07:28] <Addison> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=629252&postcount=162
[07:28] <bazhang> !shipit > friendforall
[07:28] <rickfisher> friendforall, Ubuntu will mail you a DVD
[07:29] <Losha> sp0spo: I still have modprobe (8.04). It's there in 9.10...
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Friedforall: get a local buddy to make you a disk
[07:29] <justin_> ActionParsnip: I can't seem to find anything googling that will help. I am at my wits end, I have no clue how to fix this.
[07:29] <rickfisher> justin_, what is open chrome?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: search for: openchrome xorg.conf endsection ,should be ok
[07:29] <justin_> rickfisher: Openchrome is the video drivers that run VIA onboard video.
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Rickfisher: low power and low performance
[07:30] <rickfisher> ActionParsnip, can you help him?
[07:30] <Losha> justin_: I found this on google: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Rickfisher: hopefully my recommended search will work
[07:31] <justin_> Losha: So did I. That document did not help me at all.
[07:31] <nerd> is i have a tarball, whats the easiest way to install the driver or software??
[07:31] <ennui> can canyone make a suggestion on a mini laptop that would run ubuntu?
[07:31] <justin_> ennui: I would buy an ASUS and put eeebuntu on it.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Ennui: acer aspire one z-something worked 100% ootb, even webcam
[07:32] <justin_> ennui: An ASUS EEEPC 900 or something similar.
[07:32] <Losha> justin_: did you work through the 'manual install' section?
[07:32]  * Yum-aWay is Away, Reason: ( ZzZzZz ) | Since: ( Wednesday, April 28, 2010. 03:24:26 ) Xlack v2.1
[07:32] <bazhang> Yum-aWay, disable that script
[07:32] <Sinanthiel> I have an ASUS laptop that died just this last week... :(
[07:32] <justin_> Losha: no, I did not. I already have the openchrome drivers, it just seems I can't configure my xserver to actually use them in any fashion.
[07:33] <ark3qqq> Can anyone suggest (the hardware for) a small laptop (but not a netbook) that can run Linux well? What sort of discrete graphics, primarily.
[07:33] <Kaze> can I get rid of compizconfig without having any ill effects on OS ?
[07:33] <Sinanthiel> And it's 3 months past warranty
[07:33] <bazhang> Kaze, of course
[07:33] <CircuitBug> is any one using a mirodia webcam.....
[07:33] <Addison> I really could you a walk through or a web site or anything else on how to extract that file to an ext2 partition on my memory card if anyone is kind enough to respond.
[07:33] <Losha> justin_: try the edits suggested in section 3 of that doc...
[07:34] <nerd> Failed to connect stream: To Large<----I get this while trying to  play ANYTHING
[07:34] <sp0spo> do any of you use two audio output devicdes at the same time?
[07:34] <justin_> Losha: I do not know how to open that document and remain connected to IRC from the command line.
[07:34] <Addison> Crap.  Stupid typos.  I should have come here another time when I'm not having a beer.  :)
[07:34] <Sinanthiel> Mmmmm beer
[07:34] <justin_> Losha: ctrl-alt-f2 bring me to a blinking dot that does nothing.
[07:34] <rickfisher> justin_ I hate video on Ubuntu! Always a pain with my Dual screen desktop.
[07:35] <Losha> justin_: tricky. Can you background the irc program temporarily using ctrl-Z and the fg command?
[07:35] <Addison> Actually, it's more like a keg of beer and a snorkel.  *lol*
[07:35] <justin_> Losha: I do not have access to a command prompt inside of irssi.
[07:35] <Sinanthiel> lol
[07:35] <friendforall> ubottu, Can you see my pm please?
[07:35] <Sinanthiel> I love brown hazelnut nectar beer by Rogue breweries
[07:36] <justin_> Ok, I am gonna try surfing the web in elinks for a solution.
[07:36] <Losha> justin_: then you need to write whatever is needed down on a piece of paper using a pencil. Sometimes the old methods really do work best...
[07:36] <Addison> Okay.  Last time posting this request.  If not, I'll find a better IRC channel, like #nethack to help me out.  *lol*
[07:36] <Addison> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=629252&postcount=162
[07:36] <friendforall> ubottu, Can you see my pm please?
[07:37] <bazhang> friendforall, yes she saw it.
[07:38] <Threetimes> I have problems compiling flightgear from svn on Ubuntu 9.04: http://pastebin.com/xrevsUzy
[07:38] <nerd> got sound...YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:40] <Raging_Mac_User> Morning dears. :3
[07:42] <Raging_Mac_User> Lol. D:
[07:42] <rautamiekka> Since I am running Ubuntu Server (9.10 x64) and the "/boot/grub/menu.lst" doesn't exist when I'd need to alter the boot parameters, am I supposed to create the file myself or will I always have to bring up the GRUB boot menu to edit them ?
[07:43] <geirha> rautamiekka: You likely have grub2; you edit files in /etc/grub.d/ instead.
[07:44] <Threetimes> !grub2 | rautamiekka
[07:44] <rautamiekka> geirha: Now that you mention it, yes I do have GRUB2. I'll check up that folder once I get home. Thanks :)
[07:44] <rautamiekka> And thanks for Threetimes for the link
[07:45] <ennui> is there a difference between a 'netbook' and a 'mini laptop'?
[07:45] <Lame_Has> hello Mac users :D
[07:45] <Raging_Mac_User> Troll! D:
[07:45] <Threetimes> ennui: it's all marketing and funny names. just look at the actual hardware inside :D
[07:46] <Raging_Mac_User> I quite enjoy the funny names. :3
[07:46] <ark3qqq> ennui: I'm not sure what you're looking for, but I want something more powerful than an Atom CPU and Intel GPU.
[07:46] <ark3qqq> ennui: In my mind, that makes what I want _not_ a netbook.
[07:47] <Drakonslayor> Hey guys, i want something like limewire except better cause limewire shits me... got any names for me?
[07:47] <Raging_Mac_User> Frostwire?
[07:48] <ark3qqq> eMule?
[07:48] <Threetimes> torrents (transmissionbt)?
[07:48] <Raging_Mac_User> That's nothing like Limewire.
[07:48] <Raging_Mac_User> D:
[07:48] <Drakonslayor> yeah love torrents... just not as easy to get music on them is all
[07:48] <Flannel> !piracy
[07:49] <Drakonslayor> oops sorry
[07:49] <Threetimes> torrents and other p2p-netrworks can be used for legal purposes, like spreading ubuntu :D
[07:49] <Drakonslayor> indeed they can... good thinking
[07:49] <Drakonslayor> lol
[07:50] <Threetimes> Just for the record: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[07:51] <Drakonslayor> haha... now now, don't be a smartass :P
[07:51] <ark3qqq> I assume Flannel was referring to the bit about obtaining music...
[07:52] <Threetimes> Free music does exist...
[07:53] <ark3qqq> Perhaps I should let Flannel speak for Flannel.
[07:53] <bazhang> lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:53] <Threetimes> I have problems compiling flightgear from svn on Ubuntu 9.04: http://pastebin.com/xrevsUzy
[07:54] <ark3qqq> Threetimes: Perhaps a dumb question, but do you have SimGear installed?
[07:55] <Threetimes> Do I need to install it prior to running the script? The script won't do that for me?
[07:55] <Ileden> Hi! I upgraded to Karmic, and otherwise ok, but when compiz is on my desktop is completely black (not even icons showing). How to fix/troubleshoot this?
[07:55] <ark3qqq> Threetimes: Right, you must install it first. The script is looking for a particular header file.
[07:56] <Threetimes> Okay, I'll try that
[07:56] <ark3qqq> Threetimes: Take a look at the last few "checking" lines in your paste.
[07:57] <Threetimes> Ok, what version should I install, I want flightgear 2, do I need simgear 2? Simgear 1 is in the repos...
[07:57] <DJ_HaMsTa> i need an image viewer close or similar to Windows Image viewer in ubuntu.
[07:57] <DJ_HaMsTa> one that i can use the shortcut keys to navigate though the image folders
[07:58] <ark3qqq> DJ_HaMsTa: qiv is pretty good. pqiv, also.
[07:58] <Ileden> DJ_HaMsTa: I'
[07:59] <Ileden> DJ_HaMsTa: I'm not familiar with Windows Image viewers, but gthumb and gqview are some image viewers with rather good features. More akin to Irfanview I'd assume, if you're familiar with that.
[08:00] <fehrp> hi all, 10.4 is cool... but... where do I go from here? :)
[08:00] <ark3qqq> Gentoo? :P
[08:00] <fehrp> What is the gnome-pdf-annotation tool? In KDE I used to use okular, which rocked
[08:00] <uofm49426> Quick question
[08:00] <ennui> ark3qqq: what type of processor would you prefer? and could you find it in a laptop with a 10 inch screen?
[08:00] <Threetimes> !ask | uofm49426:
[08:01] <ark3qqq> ennui: I'd be fine with a CULV or ULV intel chip, whatever they're called, but I'd prefer something like an i5. Problem with that, unfortunately, is then I'm stuck with an Intel graphics chip too.
[08:02] <uofm49426> you know the add/remove program in ubuntu/debian/xfce/ etc what is that programs command name
[08:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> uofm49426,  apt-get remove ?
[08:03] <arnaudmuhizi> Hi all, don't know whether this is the right place to ask this but I'm failing to have my tap interfaces being assigned IP addresses dynamically
[08:03] <Ileden> DJ_HaMsTa: nope, he means the graphical interface
[08:04] <uofm49426> no it didnt install im trying lubuntu
[08:04] <iceroot> uofm49426: synaptic
[08:04] <ark3qqq> ennui: Oh, I missed half your question. I don't want anything smaller than 11 inches anyhow. I think the Alienware M11 (or something like that) is as small as I'd want to go.
[08:04] <uofm49426> not synptic its not part of it
[08:04] <Azoff> any kernel/lirc devs arround that can check this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/570700
[08:04] <Ileden> uofm49426: I think you might mean software-center
[08:05] <uofm49426> i think so
[08:05] <Ileden> uofm49426: only there doesn't seem to be a packacge with that name... hmm...
[08:06] <Ileden> but that's the command-line anyhow
[08:06] <ennui> ark3qqq: do you want to power for gaming? or video playing/processing?
[08:06] <DJ_HaMsTa> lulbuntu lol
[08:06] <uofm49426> lubuntu
[08:07] <uofm49426> i want a all lxde desktop
[08:07] <ark3qqq> ennui: Gaming would be nice; for me that means dual-boot. More importantly I want to experiment with OpenCL (or equivalent) for financial applications. That's why I want decent CPU and discrete GPU.
[08:07] <Ileden> uofm49426: interesting. I hadn't heard of lubuntu before. What's the main advantage?
[08:08] <uofm49426> it like xfce but faster ligther yet
[08:08] <Ileden> uofm49426: sounds good. What are the main disadvantages?
[08:09] <mauzil> hi all
[08:09] <uofm49426> less crap taking up memory
[08:10] <fehrp> What is the gnome-pdf-annotation tool? In KDE I used to use  okular, which rocked
[08:10] <Ileden> uofm49426: that's not a disadvantage :)
[08:10] <uofm49426> i just hope the ati driver got better
[08:10] <uofm49426> i only have a xpress 1200
[08:11] <uofm49426> anyone know of a good better program then reconstructer
[08:12] <uofm49426> so i can make my own lxde live img
[08:13] <rickfisher> Does anyone know if there were changes in Nvidia xserver in 10.4? I asked on Ubuntu+1 but no answers
[08:14] <uofm49426> on 8.10 intrepid because ati 9.3 still better the one being worked on
[08:14] <beerskij> Anybody using the latest Spotify under Ubuntu/wine ?
[08:15] <Ileden> beerskij: yes
[08:15] <beerskij> Ileden, could you connect to your Facebook account through it?
[08:15] <Ileden> beerskij: or, well, what's the latest?
[08:15] <Ileden> beerskij: connect to facebook??
[08:15] <Ileden> huh?
[08:16] <beerskij> Ileden, it came out yesterday. incorporates social networking features
[08:16] <uofm49426> how long will it take for wrapper ati driver to be as good as one from ati
[08:16] <Ileden> beerskij: oh? shouldn't spotify autoupdate?
[08:16] <beerskij> Ileden, yeah but it usually tka
[08:16] <beerskij> ..takes a while to roll out to all users
[08:17] <iceroot> uofm49426: noone knows
[08:17] <Ileden> beerskij: hm, does the socmed incorporation work for only premium customers? I'm a non-paying user.
[08:18] <beerskij> Ileden, the idea is that you'll get a friends list to share playlists etc, using Facebook. However, I cant connect and I'm told it "uses an Internet Explorer component", which is why connecting using Wine doesnt work. what im looking for is adding some kind of IE support
[08:18] <beerskij> Ileden, should be for all i believe. check the homepage (im a premium user)
[08:18] <plouffe> where are the logs?
[08:19] <rww> !logs | plouffe
[08:19] <uofm49426> wish i would have got a cheap laptop with intel gma then ati
[08:19] <Ileden> beerskij: whoooooa?? play local files?! now it get's real interesting!
[08:19] <beerskij> Ileden, sure does :)
[08:19] <plouffe> nvm, I found them. /var/logs
[08:19] <Ileden> hm, maybe not the best channel for Spotify chat tho :)
[08:19] <destroit> #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <beerskij> Ileden, true. do you know of any official chan? or maybe there is a Wine channel..
[08:20] <uofm49426> i will never buy amd or ati laptops ever again
[08:20] <Ileden> beerskij: i'll try it with wine and let you know.
[08:21] <beerskij> Ileden, thank you!
[08:22] <Ileden> I have encountered a known bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/421334) - should I proceed to help the community somehow?
[08:22] <overmacht> !seen DrWillis
[08:23] <rickfisher> I haz cheesburger!
[08:23] <uofm49426> software-center good idea thankyou ILeden
[08:23] <Flannel> Ileden: click the icon next to "Does this bug affect you?" at the top
[08:23] <rww> Ileden: the bug you linked is a duplicate. You should be paying attention to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/444139 instead
[08:24] <uofm49426> works great
[08:24] <uofm49426> need my fret on fire couldnt find it in syp
[08:25] <Ileden> rww: thanks. I really should learn to use launchpad someday...
[08:25] <rww> uofm49426: the package name is "fretsonfire", it's in the universe repository
[08:26] <Ileden> uofm49426: yuo're welcome :)
[08:26] <luis__> hello everybody
[08:27] <virus> welcome humanity
[08:27] <uofm49426> and other things it nice just being able to type fret and it all come up
[08:28] <uofm49426> or super finding suppertux
[08:28] <uofm49426> or super finding supertux
[08:29] <uofm49426> now ill see if the ati driver can handle xbmc next
[08:30] <uofm49426> or boxee
[08:31] <beerskij> Ileden, if you're running into the same problem, i found something that MIGHT work: winetricks adding ie7 support
[08:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:31] <Ileden> beerskij: How do I know if it's updated? I tried installing the new version but no difference...
[08:31] <beerskij> Ileden, i got past the login but  now i seem stuck trying to recieve information, it's just loading
[08:32] <piju> netsplit?
[08:32] <PigFlu> what is mode -j?
[08:32] <beerskij> Ileden, it looks a lot different. I first uninstalled the old spotify, then simply ran the new installer with Wine (had to make the new file executable first)
[08:34] <Ileden> beerskij: hmm, i'll try uninstall/install instead of reinstall...
[08:35] <Kriss3d> Morning everyone. I got a question: will the new 10.04 ubuntu be upgradable from 9.10 ?
[08:36] <DJones> Kriss3d: Yes it will
[08:36] <Kriss3d> awsome..
[08:36] <Ileden> Kriss3d: I think all sequential Ubuntu releases will be upgradeable.
[08:36] <rww> Kriss3d: yes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades after release
[08:36] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> what is cautious-launcher? its a new thing that poped up when I went to d-load itunes 9 in attempt to get it working in wine
[08:37] <Kriss3d> well i mean. i helped my otherwise all MAC fanboy uncle get a pc laptop and install 9.10 koala.. he likes it so far.. so i can somhow upgrade that to 10.04 without him having to reinstall the whole enchilada ?
[08:37] <Ileden> beerskij: nope, ain't upgradin for me. :( Oh well, have to wait untill it gets rolled for my account then I guess.
[08:37] <beerskij> Ileden, that's weird :S
[08:38] <Kriss3d> looks like a floodbot
[08:38] <JoshuaL> !netsplit
[08:38] <rickfisher> wow we are back to 1427
[08:38] <rickfisher> 1428
[08:38] <Shambat> what is the fastest and easiest way to crack WEP in ubuntu? I am using it to show my boss how terrible it is :)
[08:39] <rickfisher> WEP can't be cracked
[08:39] <Shambat> lol
[08:39] <PigFlu> lolwut
[08:39] <Kriss3d> rickfisher,  really ? what centry do you live in ?
[08:40] <Kriss3d> Shambat,  tell your boss it can be done in 2-3 minutes.
[08:40] <ShapeShifter499> lmao
[08:40] <Kriss3d> if there is a client on surfing youtube or somthing
[08:40] <Kriss3d> just tell him to look up wep crack on google.
[08:40] <Shambat> Kriss3d: yes ... but I want to show him .... most effective
[08:40] <nubuntu> sdf
[08:40] <Kriss3d> Shambat,  aircrack-ng
[08:40] <Shambat> Kriss3d: is there some guide I can use for that?
[08:40] <rickfisher> Ok I am feeling real stupid tonight so plz help me through this. Did Sudo nvidia-xconfig and I get this. Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[08:40] <rickfisher> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[08:40] <rickfisher> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:40] <rickfisher>  
[08:40] <rww> Shambat: aircrack-ng would be one that can do it, but I've never used it and don't know how to
[08:41] <nubuntu> hi all
[08:41] <Shambat> rww: ok thx
[08:41] <Ileden> beerskij: well, I maybe they just want to control the speed users get the new release, to prevent any huge "new version killed spotify for all users" mistakes
[08:41] <Kriss3d> there are nice guides on the official aircrack-ng site
[08:41] <rickfisher> Shambat, we won't help you break the law. That's why wep can't be cracked
[08:42] <rww> lol
[08:42] <Kriss3d> rickfisher,  well breaking wep isnt illegal.. not if you got the permission from the network owner
[08:42] <rickfisher> Kriss3d, I'm just goofing this guy.
[08:42] <Kriss3d> ah ok.. didnt see that comming
[08:42] <Ileden> beerskij: i wish buying would also work with the new version - I can't click on the "agree to terms" button. would make quite a bit of sense they would fix that :)
[08:43] <Ileden> beerskij: then again, wine isn't really their priority :)
[08:43] <fehrp> has anyone working desktop widgets in ubuntu?
[08:43] <beerskij> Ileden, exactly. I guess any linus issues is disregarded by the Spotify team since there's no official support for i
[08:43] <beerskij> it
[08:44] <beerskij> linux*
[08:44] <Lunks> Hi, I'd like to get some information about ACL on Linux. I know I have to use 'acl' on the file systems I want to use it, but that's about it. Can anyone get me some further information/link/anything?
[08:45] <rickfisher> stuck on nvidia still
[08:45] <Kriss3d> Btw.. Have anyone had any experiences with trying to access a MS access 2003 MDB file ? It seems that installing MS office 2003 and run it in wine isnt capable of opening a mdb file.. but OO cant open those files either
[08:47] <George_E> 1 more day 'till 10.04!
[08:47] <fehrp> George_E: you can already download it
[08:48] <fehrp> I did, it's cool :)
[08:48] <George_E> The production ISO?
[08:49] <Kriss3d> Im hoping for the GEM issue being fixed
[08:50] <Kriss3d> that graphic error is quite bad so hopfully it gets fixed fast
[08:51] <rickfisher> WOW everything is fixed in this new 10.4 release! Amazing.
[08:51] <rickfisher> NVIDIA X driver. what to do?
[08:51] <iceroot> rickfisher: #ubuntu+1
[08:51] <Zta-at-work> Will Ubuntu 10.04 have Firefox 3.6?  It's not mentioned in the overview.
[08:51] <iceroot> Zta-at-work: #ubuntu+1
[08:52] <Zta-at-work> ah
[08:52] <haux> I just reinstalled Ubuntu and and updated 10.04. The volume icon is gone from the top bar... and I can't for the life of me figure out why or how to bring that back
[08:52] <iceroot> haux: #ubuntu+1
[08:52] <haux> What is this channel for?
[08:52] <iceroot> haux: for 10.04
[08:52] <iceroot> haux: #ubuntu+1 = 10.04  this channel for all stable-releases
[08:53] <haux> ah
[08:53] <nexus6__> hi
[08:53] <Walrus23> hello there
[08:53] <nexus6__> well i want to buy a new computer for my ubuntu
[08:54] <Ytaews> wehn can 10.04
[08:54] <nexus6__> and i dont know if i shall buy the new amd 6 core or and intel 4 core...
[08:54] <Kriss3d> personally id go for a intell type
[08:54] <nexus6__> and why?
[08:54] <Kriss3d> but thats just me i guess
[08:55] <Kriss3d> just had better experiences with intel
[08:55] <nexus6__> so you already had bad expirience with AMD ?
[08:55] <Kriss3d> well i see the AMD better suitable for gaming really
[08:56] <Kriss3d> and AMD has more heat issues
[08:56] <itilious> is there something special i need to do to ubuntu to get my keyboard's num pad to work as numbers?
[08:56] <uofm49426> and the own ati and ati can suck it
[08:56] <Ytaews> Wehn can 10.04?
[08:56] <edvinas> Hi, I have been using ubuntu (karmic) the last week and it has been working fine until recently when i tried to boot up. Right after the boot screen (with logo) I get a black screen and nothing happens... Can anybody help?
[08:57] <itilious> because mine isnt working and i dont think have yet
[08:57] <uofm49426> and they own ati and ati can suck it
[08:57] <iceroot> itilious: press the num-key
[08:57] <itilious> iceroot, done
[08:57] <itilious> same result
[08:57] <iceroot> Ytaews: #ubuntu+1
[08:58] <uofm49426> can you fine amd with nvidia in a laptop anymore
[08:58] <rickfisher> edvinas, just tap any key and you will see the real problem
[08:58] <LordDragon> hey all
[08:58] <Walrus23> grumble grumble
[08:58] <Walrus23> this laptop's wireless is just shocking
[08:58] <LordDragon> im having issues booting with the latest kernel
[08:58] <edvinas> rickfisher: the only keys that have any effect is ctrl+atl+del. No effect with any other combination I tried.
[08:58] <LordDragon> i used the ubuntu's "update manager"
[08:58] <LordDragon> it installed everything
[08:58] <Kriss3d> Ill take Nvidia over ATI any day.. plus you get some nice features with Nvidia.. such as assisted GPU power usable for.. well.. network use
[08:59] <rickfisher> OMG 10.4 just fixed my marriage!
[08:59] <Walrus23> i'll brb on a more stable machine to ask my question
[08:59] <LordDragon> but when i select .20 in the grub menu it says "you must load a kernel first" or some where thing like that
[08:59] <LordDragon> where = weird
[08:59] <LordDragon> did something go wrong in the update process?
[09:00] <LordDragon> is there a way to manually reinstall the latest kernel ?
[09:00] <edvinas> rickfisher: I am thinking it has something to do with my graphics, its an intel 950gm. Is there anything i can do to diagnose it?
[09:02] <rickfisher> edvinas, do you speak German?
[09:02] <edvinas> just a little :)
[09:03] <rickfisher> edvinas, what language do Austrians speak?
[09:03] <edvinas> moved to austria a couple months ago
[09:03] <edvinas> German, but I am from South Africa
[09:03] <rickfisher> edvinas, OK just noisy
[09:04] <lucid_lynx> hi all. what is tje release time of Lucid? and timezone?
[09:04] <nexus6__> austria is "ein sehr schönes land"
[09:04] <rickfisher> edvinas, So back to Ubuntu
[09:04] <uofm49426> hey anyone know how to stop this ata3 not ready  on ubuntu
[09:04] <rickfisher> nexus6__, Icecreamland?
[09:04] <rickfisher> lol
[09:04] <lucid_lynx> release time of Lucid? and timezone?
[09:04] <rickfisher> I am currently Lucid
[09:04] <uofm49426> reset
[09:04] <edvinas> rickfisher, i havnt been able to find much online, seem to be quite stuck
[09:05] <edvinas> i wish i new more about linux
[09:05] <rickfisher> edvinas, Have you touched any keys while the screen is black?
[09:05] <rickfisher> edvinas, you can tap SHIFT to get a menu while booting
[09:06] <LordDragon> how can i unsinstall a kernel and reinstall it?
[09:06] <edvinas> rickfisher, I tried random keys but after the bootscreen logo everything seems to stop, the hd light goes off too
[09:06] <rickfisher> edvinas, But I find that when my Ubuntu is borked up I get a seemingly blank screen but when I touch a key it shows me error messages.
[09:06] <edvinas> rickfisher, i can restart and give it a try, not sure if i tried shit
[09:06] <uofm49426> (ata 3.00 drdy err) ata 3 not ready reset  how to stop this
[09:07] <rickfisher> edvinas, laptop right?
[09:07] <edvinas> yes, an old acer
[09:07] <rickfisher> edv
[09:07] <rickfisher> edvinas, We will wait for you to reboot
[09:08] <edvinas> great, thank you. brb
[09:08] <rickfisher> Ok everybody HIDE!
[09:08] <rickfisher> heheeh jajaja
[09:08] <iceroot> rickfisher: you have a support-question?
[09:08] <rickfisher> soooo no one will help me with Nvidia
[09:09] <rickfisher> iceroot, been asking the same one for 6 hours
[09:09] <iceroot> rickfisher: hm, cant find a detailed question with error-messages and so on
[09:10] <nmvictor> how do i redirect both error messages and standard messaged to /dev/null?
[09:10] <Walrus23> that's more like it
[09:10] <Walrus23> stupid laptop
[09:11] <Walrus23> anyway, i wanted to know why KDE hasnt loaded the networking drivers (or much at all) while GDE works fine?
[09:11] <iceroot> nmvictor: foo > /dev/null 2>&1
[09:11] <nmvictor> was it something like 1>&2/dev/null, i lost
[09:12] <Walrus23> as i said earlier i let it restart before it had finished installing stuff
[09:12] <nmvictor> iceroot: ooh, thanks
[09:12] <Walrus23> should i just count my losses and rebuild or is this salvageable?
[09:13] <nexus6__> is there a irc channel for computer hardware?
[09:13] <rickfisher> How do you restart x server?
[09:13] <iceroot> nexus6__: ##hardware
[09:14] <iceroot> rickfisher: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:14] <Younder> hi all
[09:15] <nexus6__> i need to be invited to join hardware ?!
[09:15] <iceroot> nexus6__: i guess #freenode will help you
[09:15] <geekphreak> hello all
[09:16] <edvinas> rickfisher: I am back, but no luck. I literally tried every key on the keyboard. The only thing that has any effect is ctrl+alt+del. If i press the caps lock key the light for it does not change.
[09:17] <andruk> anybody know if nmcli is coming to lucid?
[09:17] <Walrus23> lol @ nexus6__ would i be of any help (i am a BCIS undergraduate, i may be knowledgeable) what's your question?
[09:17] <piju> :-)
[09:18] <geekphreak> edvinas: what are you trying?
[09:19] <edvinas> geekphreak: for a reason unknown, after the bootscreen logo my screen goes black and the laptop becomes unresponsive.
[09:19] <alessandro_> ciao a tutti non riesco a far funzionare la scheda audio in xubuntu
[09:20] <DJones> !it | alessandro_
[09:20] <geekphreak> alessandro_: spanish?
[09:20] <geekphreak> oh ok
[09:20] <Ileden> Hmm, lucid will apparently be released tomorrow, but is there some specific time that release will happen?
[09:20] <geekphreak> edvinas: what about in resuce mode?
[09:20] <edvinas> geekphreak: everythin was working fine yesterday, then i rebooted into winxp (dual boot) and now i get this screen.
[09:20] <alessandro_> my audio card don 't work on xubuntu
[09:20] <Ileden> (just curious :) )
[09:21] <edvinas> that works fine and i get into terminal (?) but i know very little about using rescue mode.
[09:21] <BVHJWE> DE JÖN
[09:21] <edvinas> geekphreak: if you have any suggestions I will give it a shot.
[09:22] <geekphreak> edvinas: i would run disable some services i dont need in startup, prob. run fsck
[09:22] <BVHJWE> waldemar !!
[09:22] <edvinas> Okay, so i just startup into rescue mode and run fsck?
[09:23] <geekphreak> do you have any servers running edvinas ? sshd , apache, sendmail and alll?
[09:24] <geekphreak> edvinas: also can you try 1 more thing for me?
[09:24] <edvinas> geekphreak: No servers yet, only a few apps through apt-get. I installed wine 1.1.7 yesterday. Could that have anything to do with it?
[09:24] <edvinas> Sure
[09:25] <geekphreak> edvinas: before you run fsck, when you are in rescue mode type startx, see if   you get gui running,
[09:26] <edvinas> geekphreak: okay, will try that quick. Thanks so much for your help. brb.
[09:26] <geekphreak> edvinas: ifnot reboot system sudo apt-get install rcconf , disable wine in rcconf , if you seee it, run fsck , reboot and cross your fingers
[09:26] <geekphreak> no worries
[09:26] <edvinas> geekphreak: okay, thanks again. will let you know how it went.
[09:27] <geekphreak> ok
[09:29] <BVHJWE> hallo
[09:30] <BVHJWE> im so horny
[09:31] <geekphreak> BVHJWE: this is  a ubuntu support room , you are in wrong room !
[09:31] <geekphreak> nevermind
[09:34] <stevecam> geekphreak, ubuntu makes me so horny
[09:35] <itilious> why does the computer janitor in karmic say that my vbox installation needs to be removed as junk?
[09:35] <Oer> be carefull with janitor ..
[09:36] <BVHJWE> im so horny
[09:36] <itilious> i see that now, i dont think ill ever be using that
[09:36] <BVHJWE> i am a big tited hot girl
[09:36] <Ileden> itilious: soudns like an opinion ;)
[09:36] <itilious> or any time soon lol
[09:36] <BVHJWE> 18 years old
[09:36] <itilious> is there any other way to to clean out my wine installation?
[09:36] <BVHJWE> is here someone to fuck?
[09:36] <DJones> BVHJWE: This is a support room for Ubuntu, its not a general chatroom
[09:36] <DJones> !ops | BVHJWE
[09:36] <geekphreak> itilious: purge?
[09:37] <itilious> i used it to "install" itunes and all it did was mess up even my ubuntu system further
[09:37] <geekphreak> itilious: you want to uninstall wine?
[09:37] <itilious> geekphreak, do i purge wine specifically or is there a "system" purge i can do to clean out files i hope are just real junk installation/uninstallations
[09:38] <itilious> geekphreak, yes, i already checked off the wine entrys in synnaptic manager and checked for complete removal
[09:38] <geekphreak> itilious: afaik there is nothing like system purge, i would just purge wine installation
[09:38] <kpkc> !lucid
[09:38] <itilious> geekphreak, but wine is still under my list of programs
[09:38] <geekphreak> itilious: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[09:38] <geekphreak> or synaptic as you want it :)
[09:39] <Davide_377> salve
[09:39] <itilious> it ran the uninstallation in snaptic but its still there as well as after i ran the purge command
[09:39] <Manfred-> itilious: do you mean there is an empty entry of wine in your menu ?
[09:39] <itilious> no, its still there as well as the two apps i installed
[09:40] <itilious> utorrent 2.0.1 and itunes
[09:40] <Nataniel_PL> does anybody know where google chrome has its files on ubutnu?
[09:40] <itilious> itunes is what completely screwed things up, i even have like 15 entrys in my program list in ubuntu for wine
[09:40] <JoshuaL> Nataniel_PL, ~/.config/google-chrome
[09:41] <Nataniel_PL> Thx
[09:41] <Ileden> itilious: if ~/.wine/ is where wine stores most of the stuff I think. I would guess purge removes that too, but you might want to check that too.
[09:42] <nmvictor> i am writing a script to install nagios, i pasted it [just the written part] in http://paste2.org/get/797840, executng the script echos the message " [26: illegal number:", anyhelp please?
[09:45] <Nataniel_PL> actually i'm trying to backup my session (tabs) so i could reinstall system, but i can't find files it was backupes to...
[09:46] <itilious> how can i uninstall a program that shows uninstalled in the software manager?
[09:46] <Walrus23> nmvictor nagios is easy enough to install by hand, why bother with scripts in the first place?
[09:46] <geekphreak> itilious: wine still there?
[09:46] <Walrus23> itilious how did this appliocation install?
[09:46] <itilious> its not checked off in the synaptic manager either, or anything close to wine
[09:47] <itilious> through the software center
[09:47] <Walrus23> try: sudo apt-get purge wine
[09:47] <itilious> "ubuntu software center" but i remeved it with the synaptic manager for complete removal
[09:47] <stevecam> 1 more day :-D
[09:47] <Walrus23> try this itilious: sudo apt-get purge wine
[09:48] <edvinas> geekphreak: I can't seem to run startx/fsck from recovery mode. Do I need to go into another shell cus I dont see the commands help. Sorry if I am being obtuse, not very good at the whole terminal thing yet.
[09:48] <nmvictor> stevecam: to ubuntu right?
[09:48] <itilious> Walrus23, ran it and its still in the programs list
[09:48] <geekphreak> edvinas: startx did not work too?
[09:48] <stevecam> yep
[09:48] <clemyeats> itilious: maybe it's just the menus that are still there?
[09:48] <clemyeats> itilious: wine can add menu items to your home dir....
[09:48] <edvinas> geekphreak: No, it says command not found.
[09:48] <clemyeats> itilious: which menu do you use?
[09:48] <stevecam> itilious, are you trying to remove the program that was installed in wine or wine itself?
[09:49] <nmvictor> stevecam: to Lucid right?
[09:49] <geekphreak> edvinas: huh really, ?? did you uninstall anything?
[09:49] <itilious> but when i try to set torrent files to permanently associate to another client other than utorrent i dont even see my other target choice
[09:49] <stevecam> nmvictor, yes
[09:49] <itilious> stevecam, both
[09:49] <itilious> I see TONS of "a wine application" listings in the program list menu for file association
[09:49] <stevecam> itilious, well, dont forget that there are files in your home directory in a folder called .wine
[09:50] <itilious> stevecam, i manually deleted them
[09:50] <clemyeats> itilious: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine; rm -rf ~/.wine
[09:50] <dugger5688> Sometimes it takes awhile for the wine to clear out of the menu
[09:50] <edvinas> geekphreak: I noticed I get some errors in recovery mode when somethign similiar to 'trying to mount from disk'is run.
[09:51] <dugger5688> That too, I came back after a few hours last time I removed wine and they were magically gone.
[09:51] <nmvictor> stevecam: I can wait to see Lucid, I can just smell goog things though its not out yet, its gonna rock like jaunty, I liked jaunty more than karmic,i have never known why
[09:51] <clemyeats> itilious: for the menus, "find ~ | grep .desktop" will give you a list of personal menu items
[09:51] <stevecam> itilious, but i see the problem, this looks like it was done by a program that is not related to the installer, you are going to have to do this by hand
[09:51] <nmvictor> i am writing a script to install nagios, i pasted it [just the written part] in http://paste2.org/get/797840, executng the script echos the message " [26: illegal number:", anyhelp please?
[09:51] <geekphreak> edvinas: full message would be nice , did you uninstall anything or run an update or system crashed anything?
[09:51] <stevecam> nmvictor, i didnt notice much of a difference with the last upgrade
[09:52] <stevecam> except that firefox 3.5 was terrible
[09:52] <nmvictor> stevecam: i only moved to it because the kernel version in jaunty was just too backwards
[09:53] <dugger5688> stevecam: lol
[09:53] <stevecam> and try reporting problems with 3.5 in firefox, they like to pretend that they dont exist
[09:54] <stevecam> "its not slower, its much faster"
[09:54] <edvinas> geekphreak: No, it was a normal shutdown. But the error showing (and its long one) 'Failed to read block at offset 10583' and ÉXT4-fs (sda6): error loading journal'.
[09:54] <stevecam> "i find it crashes less"
[09:54] <itilious> stevecam, so i just manually delete the .desktop files the are associated with wine and i'm good?
[09:55] <geekphreak> edvinas: yup thats error alright
[09:55] <edvinas> geekphreak: I can retype more of it, which parts are useful to you?
[09:55] <itilious> clemyeats, thanks for the command :)
[09:55] <clemyeats> itilious: you're welcome.
[09:55] <edvinas> geekphreak: Okay, progress at least. Any chance of recovering?
[09:55] <stevecam> itilious, i don't know, i would help you out with this but i have to leave in 5 minutes
[09:56] <stevecam> but i can see why removing wine wouldnt help
[09:56] <clemyeats> itilious: I usually explain commands when I give them.. I don't like throwing them at people like that, but this channel is extremely busy ;)
[09:56] <EugeneKay> Blindingly annoying question everybody has been asking(and will be for a bit yet) - what is the exact time for the "General Availability" of 10.04?
[09:56] <geekphreak> edvinas: i would boot the system with live cd at this time , and run  fsck if possible
[09:56] <geekphreak> edvinas: any important data on drive?
[09:57] <noobik> Hello :)
[09:58] <edvinas> geekphreak: Okay, will try that. Not really much important stuff. This has happened to me beofre (twice) and I just did a reinstall both times. But reinstalling the os twice a week is a bit much so figured I would try fixing it.
[09:58] <edvinas> geekphreak: gonna try the livecd and fsck idea.
[09:58] <geekphreak> edvinas: fixing is a good idea, you learn something :)
[09:58] <noobik> i have one question but dont know if i can ask here.... ive been searching google but no solid results atm...
[09:59] <noobik> im trying to check my ATI temperature over SSH but it's always giving my this error
[09:59] <itilious> clemyeats, i'm breaking it down right now cuz it completely fixed what I've been frustrated with
[09:59] <noobik> ERROR - X needs to be running to perform ATI Overdrive(TM) commands
[09:59] <itilious> i learned my lesson, dont even try to emulate windows, just break free :)
[09:59] <noobik> is there a way to solve this?
[10:00] <itilious> thanks for your help everyone
[10:00] <clemyeats> itilious: ok, let me know if you want help with understanding it.
[10:00] <geekphreak> itilious: good luck buddy :)
[10:00] <edvinas> geekphreak: Apart from this 'issue' i am really loving ubuntu. Working on my websites and having virtual envs with a proper terminal is awesome...
[10:00] <geekphreak> edvinas: its a rock solid system , secure fast :)
[10:02] <geekphreak> itilious:  why did you want itunes on ubuntu, its such a slow application!!
[10:02] <edvinas> geekphreak: livecd is doing its thing. thanks for taking your time to help me out. its highly appreciated.
[10:03] <geekphreak> edvinas: no worries good luck mate
[10:05] <maja87> hi
[10:05] <ray_> Hello, I have some knowledge about configuring bind, but I have a special question. I know about SplitDNS but exactly this is my problem. I have domain.local in our lan and domain.com for the internet. Now I need to resolve xxx.domain.com inside the lan to an internal IP, on the Internet it needs to resolve to an extrenal IP. The problem is that I have no controll over the external DNS Server, so I can not setup a split dns easily because I
[10:05] <ray_> would have to monitor the external DNS and that's not easy as I also do not have transfer capabilietes. Is there a way to tell bind to be authoritiv for xxx.domain.com only? Or can I tell bind to be authoritive for domain.com, but only answer xxx.domain.com directly and let him forward questions regarding the other hosts to the real dns server?
[10:05] <vernr> !hi | maja87
[10:05] <itilious> geekphreak, it def is i'm using banshee so far and i love it compared to itunes
[10:06] <noobik> help anyone?
[10:07] <wildbat> !ask | noobik
[10:09] <noobik> wildbat -> i have already made the question but if u didn't get it i'll ask again
[10:10] <ray_> hrm, am I in the ubuntu server channel?
[10:10] <wildbat> "If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)"
[10:10] <geekphreak> ray_: i think it is #ubuntu-server
[10:10] <ray_> ah, sorry guys, wrong channel
[10:10] <man8> hi
[10:10] <wildbat> noobik, try google a bit while waiting
[10:11] <lxsysweb> !hi | man8
[10:11] <noobik> wildbat : oh u mean't that part... i've been searching google but no successful results came up... that's why i came here
[10:12] <man8> thanks
[10:13] <geekphreak> edvinas: how is it coming?
[10:13] <maja87> can i talk with 10.04 developers?
[10:14] <Smitty0> ldfront.net
[10:14] <wildbat> noobik, hmm may be you can try a 'sensors' from repos~ see it that can read th card temp ~ not sure thou
[10:15] <noobik> already tried... it only readed the MB temp, CPU temp, and the volts...
[10:15] <koshari> how do you enable plymouth
[10:16] <wildbat> noobik, :< /comfort ~
[10:16] <wildbat> !lucid | maja87
[10:16] <geekphreak> koshari: you can use rcconf    to enable plymouth >> sudo apt-gt install rcconf , then sudo rcconf
[10:17] <maja87> wildbat: thx
[10:17] <geekphreak> koshari: you can also do sudo serivce plymouth start
[10:17] <geekphreak> service*
[10:18] <koshari> geekphreak it says its running but there are no animations at boot?
[10:18] <geekphreak> hmm
[10:19] <twiztid> can someone help with some video streaming issues ive been having?
[10:19] <mmica> hey ;]
[10:21] <Kabz> hi I've a problem to mount an iso
[10:21] <Kabz> Can someone help me ?
[10:21] <geekphreak> Kabz: as in?
[10:21] <betamine> Kabz: mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point
[10:22] <twiztid> specifically firefox, and even swiftfox (amd semperon build) laggs with video streaming and because ive flawlessly installed karmic on two seperate pc's im wondering what my setup is failing at?
[10:22] <Kabz> Thx <betamine>
[10:23] <FourDollars> Hi All.
[10:23] <FourDollars> $ LANG=C sudo apt-file update
[10:23] <FourDollars> W: Don't know how to handle https: Bad file descriptor
[10:23] <FourDollars> on karmic
[10:23] <FourDollars> But 'apt-transport-https' has be installed.
[10:23] <FloodBot4> FourDollars: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <FourDollars> Does anyone know how to solve this?
[10:26] <lxsysweb> I'm having issues with my ATI radeon Xpress 1150 (renames 200 series) in the form of drivers. Meh system's a bit of a mess, and I don't quite understand the way the ATI drivers work, and fglrx and all the other stuff. Anybody able to help?
[10:26] <zvacet> lxsysweb:di you tried to install driver from system>admin>softwaresources
[10:27] <supasteri> im in south africa. any ideas on exactly what time lucid will be available for download?
[10:27] <lxsysweb> zvacet: I don't quite understand, isn't that the repository configuration?
[10:27] <zvacet> lxsysweb:  sorry it is system>admin>hardware drivers
[10:28] <overmacht> supasteri; wait for 1 day.
[10:28] <lxsysweb> zvacet: yeah, doesn't show up there at all, only the wireless drivers.
[10:29] <zvacet> lxsysweb: see if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI can help you
[10:29] <lxsysweb> zvacet: ok thanks, i'll take a look
[10:31] <supasteri> any news on gma500 support with lucid?
[10:33] <Sjimmie> supasteri: #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <geekphreak> edvinas: still there?
[10:35] <dreamon> #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <xp> s.a
[10:40] <jakemills> why is it so hard to dd an iso to boot from on a usb? i used "dd if=/place/file.iso of=/dev/sdb" and the thing won't boot. any ideas as to why not?
[10:42] <wijnand> Could anyone tell me how I can put entries from the Places menu (specifically, a bookmark for a smb server) on the Desktop?
[10:44] <jakemills> wijnand, you should just be able to click and drag it onto the desktop
[10:44] <wijnand> jakemills: I tried that
[10:44] <betamine> jakemills: I think you need to install syslinux on the usb first
[10:45] <wijnand> it says "File doesn't exist", jakemills
[10:45] <betamine> jakemills: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Putting_installation_media_on_a_USB_key#Old_Method_from_ISO.2C_deprecated
[10:46] <red2kic> wijnand: Right-click on the Desktop. Create Launcher. Type: Location and Command: "sftp://<user>@<ip>/"
[10:46] <red2kic> wijnand: Meh. Just change sftp with your smb path.
[10:47] <geekphreak> red2kic: hello sir
[10:47] <meowbuntu> !ufash
[10:47] <wijnand> red2kic: ahh thanks, let's try that!
[10:47] <red2kic> geekphreak: muhaha! hello sir too.
[10:48] <wijnand> red2kic: thanks that did the trick!
[10:48] <red2kic> jakemills: You did this in root or you append sudo for dd?
[10:48] <red2kic> wijnand: Great. :)
[10:49] <ercani> hi
[10:49] <ercani> can I boot ubuntu from usb stick ?
[10:49] <twiztid> could someone pleas help me with some video streaming issues ive been having?
[10:49] <red2kic> ercani: Yes.
[10:50] <ercani> it will be pc specific ? or can run in various pc ?
[10:50] <red2kic> !usb | ercani
[10:50] <geekphreak> ercani: anny
[10:50] <E-Man> test
[10:50] <ercani> how will recognize different drivers if I boot from different pc ?
[10:50] <tapio> Did they change the default search engine back from yahoo to google again?
[10:51] <rww> tapio: yes
[10:51] <red2kic> ercani: ANY (exempting PC incapable of booting from removable drive)
[10:51] <geekphreak> tapio: though it was still yahoo
[10:51] <rww> geekphreak: no
[10:51] <geekphreak> ok
[10:52] <geekphreak> rww: thank you :p
[10:52] <twiztid> any suggestions for choppy video streaming in firefox AND even swiftfox built for my Semperon? compiz is flawless but cant watch simple online video?
[10:52] <tapio> Why did they change it back to google? Because users didn't like yahoo ?
[10:54] <ercani> if I install ubuntu to my usb stick and use it in my laptop then if I move usb to dekstop then it will recognize drivers (audio,graphic) automatically ?
[10:54] <red2kic> ercani: Don't enable any hardware drivers in Hardware Drivers (I think).
[10:54] <bouma> hey, could i discuss what filesystem might  be appropriate for me for a moment ?
[10:54] <twiztid> hello? does anyone have any suggestions on why viseo streaming is so choppy?
[10:54] <twiztid> video*
[10:55] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[10:55] <geekphreak> ercani: best option try it and see :d
[10:55] <tapio> twiztid: Flash?
[10:55] <bouma> im formating a new 1TB, and im wondering, is ext4 totally safe and sussed out these days?
[10:55] <red2kic> ercani: That's the idea. Just try it. (Don't enable drivers). :)
[10:55] <ercani> red2kic: because I want to make dual boot with windows and ubuntu in a usb stick. I want to install visual studio in xp side
[10:55] <twiztid> tapio: adobe 10
[10:55] <richthegeek> hello
[10:55] <red2kic> bouma: I use ext4 on my 2TB. Seems fine to me.
[10:55] <ercani> red2kic:  alsa will work ? I need at least sound driver
[10:56] <richthegeek> hello?
[10:56] <bazhang> yes
[10:56] <geekphreak> ercani: win/ lin on usb dual boot hmmmmm?
[10:56] <red2kic> ercani: Experiment. I can't answer for everything.
[10:56] <ubuntu-usr> i have olways give password when my ubuntu is shutdown. i wan't do it. what i should do?
[10:56] <ercani> yes
[10:56] <geekphreak> ercani: stay with one, that is ubuntu :
[10:57] <ubuntu-usr> sorry olways=always
[10:57] <red2kic> !sudo | ubuntu-usr
[10:58] <ercani> geekphreak: I think firstly I need to install windows to usb as g: or f: drive then ubuntu
[10:58] <red2kic> ubuntu-usr: You want "sudo visudo" -- You're looking to append /sbin/halt and /sbin/shutdown to your username.
[10:59] <ghassen> help please
[10:59] <geekphreak> ercani: afaik windows is pc specific, wont work on other system, you will run into bsod problems
[10:59] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:00] <ercani> geekphreak: I see, thanks..
[11:00] <bouma> could anyone tell me if btrfs is stable enough to use for my new 1TB
[11:00] <bazhang> bouma, no
[11:00] <bouma> i mean can i easily get btrfs support in my kernel
[11:00] <bouma> with ubuntu
[11:00] <phani> Hi.. I have hardy 8.0.4 . When i login to the machine all toolbars and taskbar freezes.. Could you please let me know any suggestions ...
[11:00] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:00] <bazhang> bouma, will this be shared with a windows computer by the way
[11:01] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:01] <bouma> bazhang: i couldnt care less about windos, and will find a way to connect if i need to
[11:01] <bouma> bazhang: why  ?
[11:01] <ghassen> i have to figure out which process is using port 8080 on my machine so i can stop it
[11:01] <red2kic> ghassen: Please don't spam every 30s.
[11:01] <bazhang> bouma, no file sharing via the 1TB drive then?
[11:01] <bouma> bazhang: what do you mean?
[11:02] <bouma> bazhang: what has windos got to do with file sharing ?
[11:02] <Swaner> Pleas, what time will be 10.4 availible? At 0:00? Or later? Thanks.
[11:02] <red2kic> ghassen: "sudo lsof -itcp:8080"  but you left. :P
[11:02] <bazhang> bouma, ie the drive will only connect to linux machines
[11:02] <bazhang> Swaner, not known
[11:02] <geekphreak> bazhang: howdy
[11:03] <bazhang> geekphreak, hi
[11:03] <bouma> bazhang: i can network it with samba, if it was ext2/3(/4?) or reiser3 i could read it find from windows.. so you shouldnt give advice about that, cause you are wrong
[11:03] <bouma> bazhang: there are IFS drivers for xp for those filesystems and also apps like e2fsexplorer that allow you to transfer files easily
[11:04] <bouma> bazhang: i am not going to use FAT64 or some wack like ntfs, just cause microsoft refuses to make it easy to access other better filesystems... and i dont need to
[11:04] <bazhang> bouma, ext4 is fine. btrfs is not yet so
[11:05] <bouma> bazhang: i could stick a ext3 drive in a xp machine and have no problem transfering files either using vmware and samba locally, or e2fsexplorer
[11:05] <bouma> bazhang: and have done
[11:05] <bouma> bazhang: have you used btrfs ?
[11:05] <geekphreak> bouma: dont think ther ext4 drivers for windows yet
[11:06] <linda_> hi
[11:06] <linda_> pls where can i get packet tracer for linux
[11:07] <iceroot> linda_: sudo apt-get install tcpdump
[11:07] <bouma> geekphreak: well fair enough, using extents with ext4 might not work with e2fsexplorer, but could still use the vmware trick
[11:07] <bouma> geekphreak: but as i said i care not for windos
[11:07] <geekphreak> bouma:  :)
[11:07] <bouma> geekphreak: i can network if i need to
[11:07] <geekphreak> always true
[11:08] <bouma> serously i use ifort/mkl, matlab licenced, and mathematica licensed under 64 bit linux and they are aresome
[11:08] <linda_> does it work like packet tracer
[11:08] <geekphreak> packet tracer from linksys?
[11:08] <linda_> cos i did it said i have the latest version
[11:09] <linda_> and it is a gui application
[11:09] <bouma> and the IT dept mandated windows partition has been shrunk to its minimum of 16gig and the last time it booted was to run the government tax pack exe (australia has a nice gov proggy but win only and didnt want to risk wine)
[11:09] <geekphreak> linda_: basically you wana log packets in gui mode yes?
[11:09] <linda_> ok
[11:10] <DJ_HaMsTa> she wants cisco packet tracer
[11:10] <DJ_HaMsTa> GNS3 might be similar to the cisco packet tracer
[11:10] <linda_> packet tracer is used to design and learn how to configure switches and routers
[11:10] <geekphreak> linksys / cisco same thing lol
[11:10] <linda_> in cisco
[11:10] <geekphreak> well nearly same hehe
[11:10] <linda_> that is ideas
[11:10] <linda_> it is a simlutor
[11:10] <linda_> u get me
[11:11] <DJ_HaMsTa> gns3 is a very popular emulator
[11:11] <linda_> gns3 is a simulator while packet tracer is an emulator
[11:11] <linda_> or rather the other way round
[11:11] <geekphreak> linda_: if application is nice, and is avaliable in linux , buy it :)
[11:12] <linda_> someone in dis channel gave me once
[11:12] <linda_> but i formated
[11:13] <geekphreak> linda_: good luck :p
[11:14] <linda_> why you tell me good luck huh?
[11:14] <bouma> geekphreak: i wonder, now that mballoc and extents is ported to ext3 if they will work with the windos ext2 hackware ?
[11:14] <linda_> i dont think i need it
[11:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> linda_,  bad luck
[11:14] <linda_> funny
[11:14] <linda_> just being a kiddo
[11:15]  * KoluCCi gone to smoke
[11:15] <geekphreak> bouma: prob.
[11:16] <geekphreak> bouma: i am running ext4   for sometime, had no problems yet   yet
[11:17] <geekphreak> edvinas: how did it go good/bad/ugly?
[11:18] <DelphiWorld> hi all
[11:18] <DelphiWorld> is it pocible one ethernet nic to have 2 IP?
[11:18] <DelphiWorld> or how do i configure a subinterface?
[11:20] <PhiKoen> exit
[11:21] <DelphiWorld> FloodBot1: chanserv is flooding
[11:21] <rww> DelphiWorld: no it isn't
[11:22] <NatanielPL> Hi guys, I've messed up a bit and I got some serious problem with my partytions ^^
[11:22] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: try asking, if someone an they will help
[11:23] <NatanielPL> 've tried to install windows and after that kubuntu, but after installing windows kubuntu partytioning was a bit wears so I've opened gparted in livecd ubuntu and it showes all disk unformatted, but when i start installed windows it shows all ntfs partytions
[11:24] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[11:24] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:24] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[11:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:24] <linda_> hello i can i share my internet on my ubuntu desktop to the workstation via my switch
[11:25] <lxsysweb> what was that?? was that a netsplit?? i'm confused now
[11:25] <m0RrE> linda_: do you have 2 ethernet ports?
[11:25] <red2kic> lxsysweb: Yes. That was a netsplit.
[11:25] <linda_> yea on my destop
[11:26]  * Ken8521 never gets caught in netsplits for some reason.
[11:26] <linda_> which is suppose to act as the router
[11:26] <lxsysweb> red2kic: is that like the northern lights of the internet?
[11:26] <m0RrE> linda_: you can try to use firestarter
[11:26] <linda_> right
[11:27] <linda_> cant use iptable
[11:27] <linda_> wud prefer that
[11:27] <linda_> cos the network manager is not stable
[11:28] <s3r3n1t7> linda_, try to keep the replies on a single line. Because of the netsplit a lot of people are reconnecting.
[11:28] <linda_> ok
[11:28] <NatanielPL> I wanted to install windows and after that kubuntu, but after installing windows kubuntu partytioning was a bit weared (didn't show any partytions) so I've opened gparted in livecd ubuntu (livecd of gparted doesn't work on my PC) and it also showed whole disk unformatted, but when i start installed windows it shows all ntfs partytions so I believe that this partytions (ntfs and ext4) are still there, but why nor kubuntu installing, nor ub
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[11:31] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: is terminal open ?
[11:31] <clp75> Hi people
[11:31] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: can you pastebin sudo cfdisk
[11:31] <rumpe1> NatanielPL, perhaphs wrong device?
[11:32] <clp75> who can help me?I have a panasonic printer KX-MC6020 and I cannot find a compatible driver. Any suggestion??
[11:32] <idrissdev> hello , is there any good tut for configuring ubunto to turn it into a server
[11:33] <idrissdev> dedicated server
[11:33] <geekphreak> idrissdev:  there is a ubuntu-server version , download/install it
[11:33] <StHa> idrissdev, Download the latest version of Ubuntu Server 9.10
[11:33] <ennui> does anyone know how to change the gdm resolution? i'm not sure where the config file would be
[11:33] <StHa> in the install options you can select webserver if'm not mistaken
[11:33] <StHa> i'm
[11:33] <DJ_HaMsTa> LAMP
[11:33] <StHa> yep
[11:33] <Lagger> haloo
[11:34] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: I think you can select LAMP under tasksel.
[11:34] <NatanielPL> and i remember that windows instalation where showing some error some time, but suddenly it stopped...
[11:35] <idrissdev> cause ubunto server can't run on my computer x86
[11:35] <clp75> looks like that noone knows how help me with ubuntu driver for Panasonic KX-MC6020??
[11:35] <StHa> idrissdev, should be able to run fine...
[11:35] <twiztid> can someone please help me with choppy video streaming in web browsers?
[11:35] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: it can, you need to select a 32bit version.
[11:35] <idrissdev> no i already tried to install it
[11:36] <idrissdev> i have the officiel cd
[11:36] <StHa> idrissdev, what bit version is that?
[11:36] <idrissdev> 64
[11:36] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: you need a 32 bit version
[11:37] <geekphreak> NatanielPL: did you pastebin sudo cfdisk ?
[11:37] <StHa> yep. just download the 32bit version
[11:37] <idrissdev> can i download it
[11:37] <StHa> http://www.ubuntu.com
[11:37] <lxsysweb> idrissdev: yup
[11:37] <idrissdev> thanks i will do
[11:37] <twiztid> ive tried countless workarounds and am here on last resorts...
[11:37] <idrissdev> see you ;) thaks
[11:38] <NatanielPL> geekphreak I'd have to start some livecd, wait, i think i'll first try chkdsk from windows console
[11:38] <linda_> does it mean that ubuntu 10.04 rc will not be the same the ubuntu .10.04
[11:38] <airtonix> clp75, printing and linux is still in the last century. it depends entirely on manufacturers providing proper specs for creation of drivers or just the drivers themselves.... hopefully some smart cookie will developer something like ndiswrapper for printer drivers sometime.
[11:38] <airtonix> linda_, #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <clp75> ooo so..bad news...:S thank you..
[11:39] <clp75> I found a driver-like that looks like to work on redhat
[11:39] <clp75> ....
[11:39] <airtonix> clp75, unless of course your printer is exposed over a network via samba...then it gets much easier.
[11:39] <bouma> also does anyone know of a linux filesystem that supports file history, it would be interesting to have a filesystem that i use to software development that keeps old versions of files, instead of doing it manually
[11:39] <clp75> samba looks like to not recognize the printer host
[11:40] <bouma> i've heard of such things, eg elephantfs, but can anyone recommend one ?
[11:40] <airtonix> bouma, none yet. i use git instead.
[11:40] <clp75> git?...what is git??
[11:40] <bouma> airtonix: git? how do you use that, can you mount it, like through a userspace fs
[11:40] <bouma> (fuse)
[11:40] <airtonix> bouma, no.
[11:41] <bouma> airtonix: so you manually commit, etc
[11:41] <rumpe1> clp75, version control system
[11:41] <clp75> ah ... git is not for the printer...
[11:41] <clp75>  ;)
[11:41] <airtonix> bouma, yes.
[11:41] <bouma> airtonix: but is there a nice dragon-drop proggy that lets you access it and manage logarithmic history etc
[11:41] <airtonix> bouma, there is talk of a new FileSystem with revision qualities.
[11:41] <dudeface> couple more days, is everyone excited?
[11:41] <clp75> ok..thanks people..see you later..
[11:42] <airtonix> bouma, not for git yet. theres rabbitcvs plugins for nautilus and thunar though.
[11:42] <airtonix> bouma, rabbit svn or cvs i think, can't remember
[11:42] <twiztid> would KMS fix choppy video playback in firefox and swiftfox both using adobe flash player 10 with Ipv6 off and pipelining on and max requests increased?
[11:43] <bouma> airtonix: so what appart from chronological appearance date, what are the distinguishing differences between cvs, svn, git .. etc ?
[11:43] <geekphreak> cya folks, have a good one :d
[11:43] <elisa87> what is the best version of ubuntu?
[11:43] <bouma> elisa87: 10.04
[11:43] <bouma> elisa87: :P
[11:43] <hyperstream> How can i make a NTFS partition accessable by my user?
[11:43] <airtonix> bouma, i cant be to sure but my favourite aspect of git over the other two is how it doesn't pollute every single directory with hidden folders and files.
[11:43] <bouma> elisa87: what computer will you install it on ?
[11:44] <geekphreak> bouma: good luck man
[11:44] <elisa87> sony sr gyb 590
[11:44] <Azoff> If anyone else plans to use or uses ubuntu 10.04 as a base for xbmc on an ASRock ION 330HT family or some other manufacture with a "Nuvoton 677x" IR reciver, please post on this bug to get a working driver: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/570700
[11:44] <bouma> geekphreak: cheers, thanks
[11:44] <bouma> geekphreak: still havent mkfs'ed,, im thinking of ext4
[11:44] <bouma> damn i hate that when you reply and they log off just before you hit enter
[11:44] <bouma> ah well
[11:45] <bouma> it would be nice if the server could save a one liner, and replay it when they log in. .. ah well, KISS i guess
[11:45] <DeaCon> let it go man
[11:45] <bouma> le bonge, its french for bonge, bonge on man
[11:45] <unimatrix9> twiztid : i dont know wich version of ubuntu you are using? but here is some reading on the topic : http://blog.nachtarbeiter.net/2009/08/19/choppy-flash-video-in-full-screen-mode-on-ubuntu/
[11:46]  * unimatrix9 off to have an meal
[11:46] <dudeface> hyoersteam : should be automatic unless it didnt unmount properly from windows
[11:47] <shift_> Hello, I followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing under "Ubuntu 9.10 Method" to set up ICS. However when I try to ping any hostname it says it's unknown, but if I try to ping an actual ip address, it works. How can I get the dns thing to work without digging around in config files?
[11:48] <dudeface> shift: has it had time to broadcast the hostname?
[11:48] <shift_> dudeface, yup
[11:49] <dudeface> shift : thats me tapped out
[11:49] <dudeface> lol
[11:49] <shift_> lol, ok.
[11:50] <kraut> moin
[11:50] <lalalol> !gnome-do
[11:52] <shift_> ok, I unplugged the cable, plugged it back in and it works.
[11:52] <dudeface> good stuff
[11:52] <shift_> pointless actions with no logic behind them until everything works.... ftw.
[11:53] <dudeface> yep
[11:53] <alessandro_> ciao
[11:53] <dudeface> i still got to try 10.04, is it much better?
[11:53] <alessandro_> chi mi consiglia un bel gioco di corse in macchina?
[11:53] <_ruben> !it
[11:54] <Walrus23> alessandro_ parlare in inglese per favore?
[11:54] <Walrus23> << knows very little italian
[11:55] <dudeface> i can kind of understand, i know spannish
[11:55] <cofly> hello!everyone
[11:55] <Walrus23> lol i think it's one of the romance languages anyhow... this room aint about languages
[11:55] <dudeface> hi
[11:56] <cofly> what can I do here? who can tell me?
[11:56] <shift_> cofly, what do yo mean? O_o
[11:57] <cofly> Can I ask some question?
[11:57] <dudeface> alessandro : l'IBM fa le buone macchine
[11:57] <shift_> cofly, 'course... but don't ask if you can ask.
[11:57] <dudeface> shift is pro at fixing stuff
[11:57] <cofly> haha..
[11:57] <Walrus23> << hates IBM
[11:58] <dudeface> i like em more than dell
[11:58] <Walrus23> laptop is the most useless piece of ... i have ever had
[11:58] <dudeface> ibm or hp are decent
[11:58] <shift_> it's true... I fixed a whole network by unplugging a cable, then putting it back.
[11:58] <cofly> I cannot use ibus on my PC
[11:58] <Walrus23> Toshiba are the best laptops while HP make reasonable desktops
[11:58] <dudeface> ibus, you need to install mac osx
[11:58] <lxsysweb> hp suck at laptops in my opinion
[11:58] <dudeface> ok
[11:59] <Camaro_09> Alienware
[11:59] <Walrus23> never had a problem with toshiba, this is my first non toshiba laptop and it is crap
[11:59] <cofly> my PC is Lenovo
[11:59] <C-S-B-N900> ive seen alot of hp laptops irepairably die.
[11:59] <Walrus23> lenovo == IBM
[11:59] <dudeface> i like hp, they make laptops with decent batter life
[11:59] <C-S-B-N900> motherboard just dead
[11:59] <Walrus23> C-S-B-N900 << have 5 of them under my desk
[11:59] <Walrus23> at work
[11:59] <Walrus23> all with fried motherboards
[12:00] <cofly> make install successfully,but it can't work
[12:00] <dudeface> i have an macbook pro, but i never bother recommending them
[12:00] <lxsysweb> all the HP's i've ever seen have bad motherboards, mine is on it's way out, speakers have died, dvd+r broke and battery doen't report info any more. motherboard apparently has bad trances
[12:00] <Walrus23> i want a pro 15''
[12:00] <shift_> cofly, I don't know what ibus is, but.... http://code.google.com/p/ibus/ http://code.google.com/p/ibus/wiki/Ubuntu
[12:00] <Walrus23> O.O
[12:00] <cofly> dudeface,where are you from,?
[12:00] <C-S-B-N900> Walrus23: it's awful imo, a hdd i could understand but the motherboard is a showstopper.
[12:00] <dudeface> new zealand
[12:00] <dudeface> where are you from?
[12:00] <cofly> wow
[12:01] <Walrus23> << i'm in Auckland
[12:01] <dudeface> lol
[12:01] <dudeface> im in tauranga
[12:01] <Walrus23> close
[12:01] <dudeface> well, mount maunganui
[12:01] <Walrus23> lol
[12:01] <cofly> I'm from Xi'an,China.nice to meet you
[12:01] <rww> ubottu: ot
[12:01] <dudeface> i like china
[12:01] <cofly> thank you
[12:01] <dudeface> looks nice, will visit one day
[12:01] <C-S-B-N900> Walrus23: i was in auckland beginning of the year.
[12:01] <Walrus23> it's a nice place if you dont mind the regular sirens etc.
[12:02] <cofly> I like new zealand, too
[12:02] <shift_> cofly, I just got back from Xi'ian a couple of months ago.... riding a bike on the city walls was pretty cool.
[12:02] <dudeface> its nz and australia internet time right now, dont be so supprised nzers are on
[12:02] <Walrus23> heh
[12:02] <Walrus23> nobody is asking for support atm rww
[12:02] <cofly> It's nice and clean
[12:02] <linards> Hello
[12:02] <Walrus23> when they ask we'll answer
[12:02] <Walrus23> lol
[12:03] <linards> I have very VERY !!! VERY !!! urgen and kind need for support on Lucid
[12:03] <C-S-B-N900> I want to be in Oz or NZ now.
[12:03] <dudeface> shoot
[12:03] <C-S-B-N900> linards: whats up?
[12:03] <linards> its regardind missing sound issue after upgrade from Karmic
[12:03] <cofly> shift? are you from China?
[12:03] <dudeface> is the sound card showing?
[12:03] <dudeface> ill find the command
[12:03] <linards> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/558910
[12:03] <rww> Walrus23: That doesn't matter. If you want to talk about off-topic stuff, please do it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:03] <linards> Yes.
[12:04] <linards> Nothing helps for me.
[12:04] <iceroot> linards: #ubuntu+1
[12:04] <dudeface> dont blame him, i started the off-topic chat
[12:04] <shift_> cofly, nuh, I am an aussie, but wanted to travel china a bit... so I did. Anyway, people don't look too kindly on offtopic stuff, so I'll shut up.
[12:04] <Walrus23> rofl i've never liked officious types...
[12:04] <Ari_Lazarus> Hi guys. I recently tried out Truecrypt, and made a virtual drive file on my usb stick. After a while, I decided I did not need the file any longer and got rid of it as per Truecrypt instructions (mount file, remove insides, unmount file, delete file). However, the 3GB of space I set aside for the file did not get recovered by the USB drive. What's going on?
[12:05] <C-S-B-N900> Ari_Lazarus: format the drive.
[12:05] <Ari_Lazarus> I'm hoping it wouldn't have to come to that.
[12:05] <C-S-B-N900> Ari_Lazarus: delete partition table
[12:05]  * Walrus23 pokes dudeface and nudges him to join the offtopic channel
[12:05] <yeryry> if it was a file and not a partition.. deleting the file should do it?
[12:06] <Ari_Lazarus> *should* being the operative word.
[12:06] <Tendency> Can anyone help me connect to my WLAN?  Ubuntu wont show it, but it will show others.
[12:06] <Walrus23> Tendency how close are you to your router?
[12:06] <shift_> Tendency, perhaps you're too far from it? maybe it's a hidden access point?
[12:06] <Tendency> Walrus23, rather close.  It works fine in Windows.
[12:06] <lxsysweb> Ari_Lazarus: just an idea, is the file moved into .Trash-1000 or similar on the usb drive?
[12:06] <Ari_Lazarus> Hm.
[12:07] <C-S-B-N900> Tendency: move further away?
[12:07] <yeryry> look in the partition table to see if there's still a partition for it?
[12:07] <Walrus23> C-S-B-N900 has the general idea
[12:07] <Tendency> Move further from the router?
[12:07] <Ari_Lazarus> No, I can't say it is. It's empty
[12:07] <C-S-B-N900> Tendency: does it show with iwlist scan?
[12:07] <shift_> Ari_Lazarus, yeah, lxsysweb has a point... make sure you can see hidden files and folders and see where it went.... you can also use a program like xdiskusage to see what's using up the space.
[12:07] <Ari_Lazarus> How would I look in the partition table?
[12:07] <Tendency> nope
[12:08] <Tendency> I'm gussing I just type iwlist scan in the terminal?
[12:08] <C-S-B-N900> yup.
[12:08] <Walrus23> Tendency in windows on the machine in question, download a program called inSSIDer and check your wireless isnt mixed in with the other wireless networks, if it is it may help to change the channel on your router
[12:09] <Tendency> Kk thanks
[12:09] <Tendency> iwlist scan just says "wlan0 No scan results"
[12:09] <Walrus23> Tendency are you on that machine now?
[12:09] <Tendency> The Ubuntu one?
[12:09] <Tendency> No.
[12:09] <Walrus23> yeah
[12:09] <Tendency> Vista laptop
[12:09] <Walrus23> oh ok
[12:10] <Walrus23> give that inSSIDer a try
[12:10] <Walrus23> it is freeware
[12:10] <Walrus23> i've had similar problems with my laptop but i've narrowed it down to hardware
[12:10] <rayno> Anybody here prepared to assist me with a small little samba question regarding permission inheritance?
[12:10] <ouyes> hello
[12:13] <miguel000> hello
[12:13] <miguel000> I installed xubuntu on my laptop, but now i get the blue screen of death everythime I try to login into my windows 7
[12:14] <miguel000> any idea if grub might mess up something?
[12:14] <miguel000> and.. where is the main grub config file in ubuntu?
[12:14] <lanoxx> hi can anyone tell me what the files in /etc/event.d/ are needed for, i heard they are obsolete now, since all the scripts are in /etc/init, is that correct? can i delete /etc/event.d?
[12:15] <theadmin> miguel000: /etc/default/grub in Karmic and higher, /boot/grub/menu.lst in Jaunty and lower
[12:15] <miguel000> ah I was searching for the menu.lst, didn't know it changed, thank you
[12:15] <theadmin> lanoxx: Better not touch it, they are kept for backwards compatibility or something
[12:15] <lxsysweb> has to go... byes.
[12:16] <lanoxx> theadmin, in the release notes there was written something about manually migrating some of them
[12:16] <researcher1> hi
[12:17] <SammyTheSnake> Is there a way to upgrade a 32 bit ubuntu install to a 64-bit one? Or do I have to re-install?
[12:17] <theadmin> SammyTheSnake: No, you have to reinstall
[12:18] <SammyTheSnake> theadmin: I suspected as such. it's a shame, but hardly the kind of thing I'd *expect* to be able to do ;-)
[12:18] <theadmin> SammyTheSnake: Uh, Ubuntu install process is extremely simple
[12:19] <theadmin> SammyTheSnake: Or I must be misunderstanding
[12:19] <Ari_Lazarus> I tried upgrading to Karmic Koala from Jaunty once. Got some kind of major hard disk failure.
[12:20] <theadmin> How do I make the cache thingy forget my password? That is, when I use sudo it stores it to a while
[12:20] <Ari_Lazarus> Stuck with Jaunty ever since :p
[12:20] <SammyTheSnake> theadmin: it's not so much the install as the configuration of my various applications etc. Some of that can be done by just copying the /etc/ directory and the various ~/.myapp/ directories, but it's still a faff :-(
[12:20] <jrib> theadmin: sudo -k  is sufficient
[12:20] <theadmin> jrib: -k? hm... Didn't know that option
[12:20] <miguel000> for some reason grubs labels my windows 7 backup partition that came with the notebook as Windows Vista (loader), so maybe there is also something wrong with the windows 7 loader : it says: insmod ntfs, chainloader 91
[12:20] <miguel000> s/91/+1
[12:21] <jrib> theadmin: you want to do this only this once right?  Not have it forget sooner everytime?
[12:21] <theadmin> jrib: Nah just for now
[12:21] <miguel000> the 30_os-prober seems to be responsible for the 2 entries
[12:21] <alkisg> What do blue background colors in `ls` mean? http://imagebin.org/94793
[12:22] <theadmin> alkisg: According to what I'm seeing, disk image
[12:22] <mataks> how to remove the other kernel in my grub list.. everytime i boot i have 4 kernels which im not using it anymore..  how to remove them totally?
[12:22] <alkisg> theadmin: "disk image"? what does that mean?
[12:23] <lalalol> !awn
[12:23] <theadmin> alkisg: Well, like ISO
[12:23] <lalalol> how come i can't access the awn prefs?
[12:23] <theadmin> mataks: dpkg -l | grep 'linux-image', find the unneeded packages and sudo apt-get purge em
[12:23] <ip-route> hi
[12:24] <ip-route> i'm using 9.10 and if i'm print an pdf this error: stopped
[12:24] <ip-route> "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdf failed"
[12:24] <alkisg> theadmin: erm, other .iso's don't have this color, so I'm guessing it's a file-system property...
[12:24] <ip-route> how solve this?
[12:24] <theadmin> alkisg: Oh... hm, maybe.
[12:24] <theadmin> mataks: Perform the same for 'linux-headers'
[12:25] <ip-route> how solve this?
[12:25] <mataks> theadmin, i have 5 linux image. . what's the command to purge them?
[12:25] <lamefun> It's tomorrow? :D
[12:25] <StHa> Has anyone experienced the startup/boottime from 10.04?
[12:25] <theadmin> StHa: Like 5 seconds
[12:25] <StHa> on what system?
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> StHa:  around 30 sec here on my 3 machines
[12:25] <StHa> @ theadmin
[12:26] <NatanielPL> Hi, I got problem, windows installer while making ntfs partytions fucked up my ext partytions and nor gparted, nor kubuntu installer can't see them, but cfdisk see all my partytions, but shows * after those broken, what should I do?
[12:26] <theadmin> StHa: 512 MB RAM and... well, it's ten year old
[12:26] <StHa> Dr_Willis, about the same as my laptop with 9.10 :)
[12:26] <StHa> theadmin, sounds quite nice :)
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> My Grub menu delay setting is longer then my boot times.
[12:26] <rww> NatanielPL: watch your language, please
[12:27] <thul_> hmm, puritian ubuntu :-D
[12:27] <thul_> how fun is that
[12:27] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Mine is twice longer :D (I mean, delay is 10 sec)
[12:28] <StHa> Sounds quite nice :). Will be looking forward for the actual release
[12:28] <NatanielPL> rww sorry, just have no other words for what windows is doing with my PC O.o
[12:28] <theadmin> StHa: Tommorow :)
[12:28] <zleap> NatanielPL, i have windows in a virtual box,
[12:28] <StHa> Nice one. will be installing it as a virtual instance on my server
[12:29] <StHa> vmware esxi
[12:29] <zleap> well i don't really have any usefor windows
[12:29] <theadmin> zleap: Why keep it then?
[12:29] <zleap> apart from keeping the drafts out of holes in the wall
[12:29] <zleap> theadmin, i installed it to see if could get it working
[12:29] <dios_mio> !10.4
[12:30] <dios_mio> !10.04
[12:30] <theadmin> ubottu: lucid | dios_mio
[12:30] <ip-route> "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdf failed" how solve this on cups?
[12:30] <miguel000> is it possbile that something is missing in the windows 7 (loader) entry provided by grubs 30_os-prober. ? I dont see anything like makeactive for instance?
[12:30] <Alca> Dose it come out ?
[12:30] <alexandre> stargate
[12:30] <theadmin> Alca: huh
[12:31] <theadmin> miguel000: Try doing a "sudo update-grub", dunno
[12:31] <IdleOne> !isitout | Alca
[12:31] <nexus6__> omg i just found a security hole for over 200k sites...
[12:31] <Alca> I'm wait the LTS
[12:31] <alexandre> pas disponible
[12:31] <miguel000> theadmin, ok
[12:31] <alexandre> crorte
[12:31] <alexandre> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttttttttt
[12:31] <theadmin> ...
[12:31] <Alca> 1 day to go :-）
[12:32] <IdleOne> !fr | alexandre
[12:32] <alexandre> taguele
[12:32] <IdleOne> alexandre: svp soyez poli
[12:32] <zleap> will the ubuntu manual be released at the same time as 10.04 in final format
[12:32] <theadmin> zleap: yes
[12:32] <zleap> cool
[12:32] <alexandre> vafé chilé
[12:33] <zleap> as its in LaTeX, i may look in to contributing,
[12:33] <alexandre> vafer chiler anoulle
[12:33] <theadmin> alexandre: please stop.
[12:33] <IdleOne> alexandre: English only here please
[12:33] <alexandre> vafer chiler adoulle
[12:33] <alexandre> vafer chiler adoulle
[12:34] <theadmin> IdleOne: thanks :)
[12:34] <sebsebseb> zleap: yes
[12:35] <zleap> thanks
[12:35] <sebsebseb> zleap: np
[12:35] <zleap> well i am using LyX so anything witten in that should be moveable to pure latex, for inclusion
[12:36] <sebsebseb> !manual | zleap
[12:36] <sebsebseb> zleap: thought there woudn't be a factoid, anyway if you're interested in contributing #ubuntu-manual
[12:36] <zleap> ok
[12:37] <zleap> sebsebseb, i wrote a commadn reference thing for the joe text editor ages ago, recently updated it,  so its on my website at http://www.zleap.net/portfolio.php
[12:37] <zleap> if its the sort of thing your looking for
[12:37] <sebsebseb> zleap: plus that channel links to the wiki and such in the topic
[12:37] <Naboo> Hey, does anybody here know how to update a program without upgrading ubuntu?
[12:38] <Naboo> like I want a newer version which only lucid lynx has....
[12:38] <iceroot> !backports | Naboo
[12:39] <sebsebseb> zleap: Uh I haven't contributed to the manual, got someone interested in it though that did,  also manual stuff is really off topic in here.  By the way that manual is from the Ubuntu Community not Canonical.  Some people think it's from Canonical, but that's wrong.
[12:39] <Naboo> oh okey, I'm checking it out now....
[12:39] <Kabiigon> hey doeany one know about wubii
[12:39] <zleap> ah
[12:40] <iceroot> !wubi | Kabiigon
[12:40] <Kabiigon> iceroot, i know what what wubu is i am having a issue with wubi and windows 7
[12:43] <mataks> how to upgrade to version 10.4?
[12:44] <Pici> !lucid | mataks
[12:44] <Dr-Ubuntu> alt + f2 and type update-manager -d
[12:44] <Pici> Dr-Ubuntu: Please do not suggest that without adding that lucid is not released and not supported until the 29th.
[12:45] <patrik> Hi, something is eating up all my memory. I have an ION 330 system and I suspect it is the proprietary nvidia driver but cannot tell for sure. I have 2GB of ram and after a couple of days it's all used and the system gets really slow. Any ideas what could be the problem?
[12:46] <richthegeek> patrik: check your ~/.xsession-errors file
[12:46] <richthegeek> patrik: that's giving me issues at the moment, as it's growing very rapidly and being constantly opened and closed by the system
[12:46] <Taev> hey has there been any official word from Ubuntu as to how long they'll support Ubuntu 8.10 LTS?
[12:47] <Pici> Taev: 8.10 was not an LTS release.  It is supported until April 30th 2010.
[12:47] <richthegeek> Taev: 10.04 is the new LTS isn't it?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[12:47] <Taev> how do i find out which version ubuntu my install is?
[12:48] <Taev> i think its 8.10 Im just not sure
[12:48] <richthegeek> Taev: yes it is (ubuntu home page) and so 8.04 was the last one and will become unsupported soon after 11.04 is realsed
[12:48] <Taev> gusty gibbon maybe?
[12:48] <LjL> !version
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  lsb_release -a
[12:48] <arcsky> when comes the release of ubntu 10.04 ?
[12:48] <Pici> arcsky: Tomorrow, await the release in #ubuntu-release-party !
[12:48] <Taev> Ubuntu 8.0.4.4 Hardy
[12:48] <Kabiigon> has anyone got wubi working
[12:48] <miguel000> does makactive not work in grub anymore???
[12:48] <Taev> so when will it stopped being supported?
[12:49] <Pici> !Hardy | Taev
[12:49] <Pici> Taev: er, that had less information that I thought it did.
[12:49] <patrik> richthegeek, it reports some evolution problems and a couple of glib problems. The thing is that the memory must be allocated in kernel space since no process is using any significant amount of memory.
[12:49] <Dr-Ubuntu> !Hardy | Dr-Ubuntu
[12:49] <Pici> Taev: It is supported until 2011 on the desktop and 2013 for server.
[12:49] <Taev> Im hesitant to upgrade, the last time I did it, it hosed my system. My server has my web server, and a MySQL Databases I can't loose
[12:49] <Taev> even one days downtime hurts
[12:50] <sebsebseb> Taev: April next year for 8.04
[12:50] <Taev> crap
[12:50] <richthegeek> patrik: report on Launchpad? easiest way to get deep-level experts to help
[12:50] <arcsky> are there any features in ubuntu 10.04 or its just new purple color ?
[12:50] <sebsebseb> Taev: 8.04 is better than 10.04 in certain ways :)
[12:50] <richthegeek> Taev: back it up more!
[12:50] <Taev> is Adept's auto upgrade feature anygood?
[12:50] <Pici> arcsky: Lucid discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <sebsebseb> Taev: you have untill April 2011 with it being supported on desktoip
[12:50] <Pici> sebsebseb: I just said that.
[12:50] <revilodraw> hi, i'd like wicd as a backup network manager when n-etwork-manager isnt playing nicely at uni. but i definitely dont want to delete network-manager (again). any ideas
[12:51] <sebsebseb> Pici: well you said 2011, not April, but yes pretty much
[12:51] <richthegeek> Pici: I said it first!
[12:51] <richthegeek> Pici: like it matters...
[12:51] <Pici> richthegeek: :O
[12:51] <okidokia> Simple question, what desktop do you use on your Ubuntu distribution ? Gnome ? KDE ? Other ?
[12:51] <Taev> I prefer KDE on 8.0.4
[12:51] <richthegeek> richthegeek: Taev: yes it is (ubuntu home page) and so 8.04 was the last one and will become unsupported soon after 11.04 is realsed
[12:51] <Taev> I couldn't stand the new version of KDE4
[12:51] <sebsebseb> Taev: oh right you like KDE 3?
[12:51] <richthegeek> okidokia: Gnome, ofc
[12:52] <Naboo> Hey again, I searched through the list of supported packages in the backports and I didn't find what I was looking for...  I only wanted to update transmission so that it can use magnet links, is there some other way???
[12:52] <soreau> my ubuntu locked up, so I rebooted it and now it doesnt want to boot and when it does, it hard locks during the startup sound. no compiz, tried vesa driver, apparently its something else
[12:52] <okidokia> I was searching for a lighter desktop than Gnome, but I can't find anything interesting
[12:53] <sebsebseb> Taev: yeah KDE 3 is pretty nice, sadly though it's on the verge of not being supported by upstream,  well  I guess it isn't now.  Anyway  it's fine to use KDE 3 in Ubuntu 8.04,  whilst still supported by security updates.
[12:53] <richthegeek> okidokia: XCFE is the only alternative - you can make Gnome lighter easily enough though
[12:53] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[12:53] <daniskami> okidokia: Xfce or LXDE
[12:53] <okidokia> richthegeek> Is there any light version package of Gnome ?
[12:54] <luckymurali> I have a directory which consists of five text files
[12:54] <usr13> sebsebseb: I agree, KDE-3.5 is nice
[12:54] <richthegeek> okidokia: I think there are some distros aimed specifically at that, not sure the name though
[12:54] <sebsebseb> richthegeek: okidokia   Uh  no there are loads of alternatives to Gnome and KDE,  XFCE is one of them sure, but there is also LXDE which is apparnatly more light waight than XFCE.  There's also Fluxbox and IceVM and loads of window managers for more generaly more experienced users, but newbies can use them as well.
[12:54] <luckymurali> how can I zip individual files from that directory witha single command??
[12:54] <kyubutsu> !desktop
[12:55] <richthegeek> sebsebseb: yes there are tons of WMs out there, but I tend to categorise them into "toy" and "real"
[12:55] <usr13> luckymurali: zip
[12:55] <sebsebseb> usr13: yeah, but RIP KDE basicalley, well it's dieing
[12:55] <sebsebseb> usr13: (KDE 3 that is)
[12:55] <jrib> luckymurali: you really mean zip?  Not gzip?  And you want them all in a single archive or in five separate ones?
[12:55] <Kabiigon> sebsebseb, you dont like kde4
[12:55] <okidokia> richthegeek> I'm gonna search for desktop derived from Gnome, thanks for your advices ;)
[12:55] <luckymurali> I need five seperate ones
[12:56] <jrib> luckymurali: use a for loop
[12:56] <kyubutsu> !offtopic
[12:56] <sebsebseb> Kabiigon: not much no,  I can use it though as of KDE 4.3, without just going back to Gnome soon after :)  also like before i'll run some KDE apps inside Gnome.  anyway this is off topic
[12:56] <luckymurali> which one does more compression - zip or gzip??
[12:56] <usr13> luckymurali: zip file-name.zip file1 file2 file3
[12:57] <usr13> luckymurali: will put them into one file
[12:57] <luckymurali> usr13, I need seperate zip files for individual files
[12:57] <jrib> luckymurali: try both and see, gzip has options for the level of compression too.  Though if your main concern is compression, not speed, you should checkout bzip2
[12:57] <Kabiigon> sebsebseb, i am having a bcdedit.exe issue with wubi any idesa
[12:57] <usr13> luckymurali: zip file1.zip file1 ; zip file1.zip  file2 ; zip file3.zip file3
[12:58] <usr13> etc
[12:58] <fjolle> hey!
[12:58] <sebsebseb> Kabiigon: no, but Wubi can go wrong on people, it can be ok for trying, but in general it's best to avoide it,  espeasily you want an install of Ubuntu that you want to be used for quite a long while.
[12:58] <luckymurali> usr13, no single command??
[12:58] <luckymurali> ok
[12:58] <jrib> luckymurali: the single command is to use a for loop...
[12:58] <sebsebseb> Kabiigon: doesn't take much to set up a proper partitioned installed
[12:58] <Kabiigon> yah
[12:58] <Kabiigon> i know i guess im just lazy
[12:58] <fjolle> sitting here waiting for the ubuntu 10.04 LTS, does anyone know what timezone they're running after and what time they plan on releasing eventually?
[12:59] <sebsebseb> !isitout | fjolle
[12:59] <fjolle> or can i install release candidate and perform update without having to reinstall
[12:59] <fjolle> aah
[12:59] <fjolle> sorry
[12:59] <Ari_Lazarus> Tomorrow whee!
[12:59] <fjolle> didn't know there was a channel
[12:59] <luckymurali> jrib, wher can i get example fro that??
[12:59] <FloodBot4> fjolle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <jrib> fjolle: #ubuntu+1 for lucid questions (but yes to your second question)
[12:59] <jrib> luckymurali: for x in *; do echo $x; done
[12:59] <sebsebseb> fjolle: np, loads of fan boys and girls are looking forward to it :D
[12:59] <fjolle> heheh :d
[13:00] <Ari_Lazarus> Lucid Lynx sounds about a million times cooler than Karmic Koala so... :3
[13:02] <alkisg> What does the blue background color in `ls` mean? http://imagebin.org/94793
[13:03] <el_maestro> hi,
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> alkisg:  check 'ls -l' output and see what colors go with what permissions/filetypes is what i normally do
[13:03] <luckymurali> jrib, thanks
[13:03] <luckymurali> usr13, thanks
[13:03] <usr13> np
[13:04] <alkisg> Dr_Willis: I did that but I can't find any difference between those particular files (generated by the grub-rescue-pc package) and any other files...
[13:04] <phani> Hi.. Could someone tell me how to install a package in verbose mode on 8.04 ?
[13:04] <iceroot> phani: set -x  and then use apt-get :)
[13:04] <sebsebseb> iceroot: set -x meaning?
[13:05] <phani> iceroot: thank you and let me give a try
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> alkisg:  could be due to the extension.
[13:05] <jrib> alkisg: enjoy http://paste.ubuntu.com/423940/
[13:05] <iceroot> sebsebseb: setting the bash in debug-modus
[13:05] <alkisg> Dr_Willis: I also tried that... :(
[13:05] <usr13> alkisg: Go to a directory where there is more variety and try it
[13:05] <iceroot> sebsebseb: set +x is setting the bash normal again
[13:05] <jrib> alkisg: that's the default set on debian anyway
[13:05] <ne1> what is internal compiler error?
[13:05] <phani> icerott: is this is the right command :  sudo set-x apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 ?
[13:05] <phani>  
[13:05] <alkisg> jrib, thanks, looking...
[13:05] <usr13> alkisg: ... where there are files and subdirectories etc.
[13:06] <sebsebseb> iceroot: I am not exacty sure what you mean, but ok
[13:06] <el_maestro> i need help whit ip static, i installed ubuntu 9.10 server, modified the /etc/network/interfaces file and this this look now that it's, but the ip change at 5 min
[13:06] <el_maestro> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[13:06] <el_maestro> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[13:06] <el_maestro> # The loopback network interface
[13:06] <el_maestro> auto lo
[13:06] <el_maestro> iface lo inet loopback
[13:06] <FloodBot4> el_maestro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <iceroot> sebsebseb: type "set -x" on bash, then type "echo "hello world"
[13:06] <alkisg> usr13: I cannot find any other "blue background" files anywhere... maybe it's sparse files or something equally weird
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> alkisg:  my .iso files are  yellow here. :) actially all video files are in yellow it seems.
[13:07] <phani> iceroot: ﻿is this is the right command :  sudo set-x apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 ?
[13:07] <usr13> alkisg: Color schemes are particular to system setups and is customizable to your liking.
[13:07] <alkisg> usr13: that's the default lucid installation
[13:07] <iceroot> phani: no but why you need debug-infos?
[13:07]  * alkisg looks for hardlinks...
[13:07] <jrib> alkisg: yeah, 3 for each of those files :)
[13:07] <Tricks> hi guys is there anyway for creating links on in my home dir that allow me to quickly navigae to folders on my server?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> alkisg:  seems like some sort of 'this is a video type file' setting makingit print in that color
[13:08] <Tricks> would softlinks work for this?
[13:08] <usr13> alkisg: I use hardy
[13:08] <alkisg> Dr_Willis: I don't think it's based on the file-type ... maybe those are hard links
[13:08] <Tricks> I mean navigate using command line not gui
[13:08] <ne1> el_maestro, whats your problem?
[13:08] <phani> iceroot: so when i install i get error dpkg status 01 error.. So, I want to know where it exactly fails
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> alkisg:  from what i recall reading in some hardkore books. a Hardlink is identical to the original file.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> alkisg:  im not sure how you can even tell which one is the original.
[13:09] <iceroot> phani: set -x; sudo apt-get install mysql-server;set +x
[13:09] <dancallo> I have a dell inspiron b130 laptop whose wireless card is not recognized in Ubuntu 9.10. Any help?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> alkisg:  make a few test files and try it out :)
[13:09] <wildbat> Tricks, you have the server sharepoint mounted?
[13:09] <Pici> !floodbots > el_maestro
[13:09] <alkisg> Dr_Willis: if I run "cp that-special-file.iso a-new-file.iso", the color is lost on the second one
[13:09] <alkisg> Dr_Willis: so I'm pretty sure the color doesn't match the file type
[13:09] <Thraul> With the new release about what time will it be released on the 29th April? Being in Australia I am not sure of the time difference :)
[13:10] <jrib> alkisg: because you copied the file to a different place on your hard drive.  You can think of hard links as pointing to the same place on your hard drive
[13:10] <iceroot> Thraul: #ubuntu+1
[13:10] <Thraul> ok thanks
[13:10] <alkisg> jrib, right, thanks, I'm now looking for a way to verify it (some command that displays hard links)
[13:10] <reisi_> is server 10.04 LTS going to be released at the same time with other versions?
[13:10] <phani> iceroot:  i get error while installing it  " invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed " do you know what might be the reason ?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> i have blue 'soft links' shown here :)
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> but thats a dir.
[13:10] <jrib> alkisg: ls -l did.  That's what the "3" is in your output
[13:10] <dancallo> Can anyone assist with a dell inspiron b130 laptop wirelss not recognized in Ubuntu 9.10?
[13:11] <alkisg> jrib, ah, thank you
[13:11] <jrib> alkisg: try ls -i and you will likely see those files all have the same inode
[13:12] <meowbuntu> hi anhyone here used unetbootin to install to a hdd
[13:12] <isolat3dsh33p> alkisg, blue = folders :/
[13:12] <usr13> alkisg:  http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl5_dir_colors.htm
[13:13] <usr13> tells a little...
[13:13] <alkisg> isolat3dsh33p, usr13, problem solved, it was "hard links"
[13:13] <iuri> i installed sun virtual box on my ubuntu and the network has change from 192.168.1.X to 10.0.2.X and now i cant access the box
[13:13] <iuri> does anyone already have this problem
[13:13] <usr13> meowbuntu: What?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  it can do a 'frugal' type install to a hard drive.  but thats not the same as using unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive then installing from the flash drive
[13:13] <jan247> hi guys, what time does ubuntu 10.04 launch? :)
[13:13] <Timrit> good morning. is there a way to lower the time that the notification bubbles are displayed?
[13:13] <renegaid> what version of flash does ubuntu restricted install? since installing ubuntu flash is a slide show
[13:13] <rww> jan247: when it's done
[13:13] <jan247> rww: hehe, thanks
[13:13] <dancallo> No help today?
[13:13] <Thraul> iuri, you will need to set the virtual box network card to bridged mode and select the network device to get a true IP from your network
[13:13] <Pici> !ask
[13:14] <isolat3dsh33p> alkisg, congratz :)
[13:14] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis, sounds like puppy linux frugal install.
[13:14] <alkisg> cogratz go to jrib :)
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:   similer name.. but vastly differnt in how it works i belive.,
[13:14] <meowbuntu> really then y same name then
[13:14] <meowbuntu> confusing to everyone out there
[13:14] <eycel> hi
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  make up a better name and submit it
[13:15] <MrGoodkat> how can i get rid of the proxy settings on karmic? i set a network proxy via preferences but deactivated it already. but a lot of my applications are still trying to connect using the proxy
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> I dont reccomend using the feature in unetbootin  unless you read up on it - it proberly dosent do what you want. and you can also do a very similer thing now with grub2 and iso files.
[13:15] <MrGoodkat> firefox, thunderbird, xchat work
[13:15] <meowbuntu> frugal installs in puppy linux allow you to put puppy on a hdd with an existing os on it and boot from both.
[13:16] <meowbuntu> ^ Dr_Willis
[13:16] <MrGoodkat> but axel or transmission dont work
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  yes. I know what it does.  i was in #puppylinux for a very long time.
[13:16] <usr13> meowbuntu: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-xubuntu-9-10-flash-drive-using-the-cd/#more-2601
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  unetbootins is similer.. but not the same.
[13:16] <meowbuntu> usr13, pendrive linus is for windows operating system cant use that on ubuntu
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> Unetbootin version basically puts the live cd on the HD and makes it bootable from there. it does not make any sort of peristant save, or other  features.
[13:17] <usr13> meowbuntu: O
[13:17] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis, i want to know the differance really
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> and there ya got the diferance.
[13:17] <henkdgfgafad> hoi
[13:17] <iuri> Thraul, Thanks
[13:17] <amigrave> in ubuntu 9.04, when I issued an ssh session in a terminal, an ssh agent was automatically triggered in order to ask the ssh key passphrase. This behavior is not happening in lucid. How can I restore this behavior ?
[13:18] <meowbuntu> usr13, read up that site most things use a windows os to do them. most not all
[13:18] <usr13> meowbuntu: Not the link I sent you
[13:18] <henkdgfgafad> heeey
[13:18] <meowbuntu> ah so its just the live cd on hdd not a install ok thanks Dr_Willis
[13:19] <hallo> hoi
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> thats unetbootins definiution of a 'frugal install' i guess. go check teh unetbootins forums   perhaps.
[13:19] <hallo> hoi
[13:19] <hallo> hoi
[13:19] <hallo> hoi
[13:19] <FloodBot4> hallo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <RayJohns> hello
[13:19] <RayJohns> having a problem with Ubuntu 10.04-RC
[13:20] <Pici> RayJohns : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:20] <fasta> "Timer Applet is no longer being maintained. Thank you very much to everyone who has used Timer Applet! For any developers out there, please feel to use the source code from the Timer Applet Git repository for your own project. " Is there a replacement?
[13:20] <RayJohns> I have a silicon Image 3114 SATA controller
[13:22] <WXZ> is there a "reminder" program similar to tomboy notes (I'm using karmic here)
[13:22] <tarini> WXZ: i use sticky notes
[13:22] <WXZ> can it pop up and remind you @ a certain time
[13:22] <WXZ> to check a certain note?
[13:24] <tarini> WXZ: i do not think so
[13:24] <WXZ> alright, I'll keep googling and checking in here
[13:24] <tarini> i use it just for little and fast notes on my desktop
[13:25] <Antiga> Morning, Just made the switch over to Ubuntu and am encountering an issue with fan speed. I'm using an ASUS W7Sg. The fan speed is constant all the time at a medium/low setting, it never changes and never adjusts. I'm at my wits end, and have tried a number of things.
[13:26] <richthegeek> Antiga: do you want it to be higher or lower?
[13:26] <Antiga> Higher
[13:26] <Antiga> Much Higher
[13:26] <richthegeek> Antiga: is your machine overheating?
[13:26] <Antiga> It's fine as long as I don't do anything that maxes out the cores for a little bit.
[13:26] <encarna> hola
[13:26] <Antiga> runs at 31/32 C and 45 ish for the GPU.
[13:26] <richthegeek> Antiga: right, so you've tried maxing them out and it still doesn't change?..
[13:27] <thanasis> hello, i apt-get installed nut-usb, then removed it - afterwards i rebooted my computer and no usb devices (mouse/keyboard) work when x starts - however they work in recovery mode, what can be the problem?
[13:27] <encarna> k aseis
[13:27] <richthegeek> Antiga: those are very good temperatures for idle, tbf
[13:27] <Antiga> But say install a program and it goes to 80C acros the board.
[13:27] <suigeneris> hello
[13:27] <sXs-> by the way how I can see temperatures? lm-sensors does not find any sensors :S
[13:27] <Guest53826> Is there any reason why rssdler and rutorrent rss plugin have issues with the URL http://www.domain.com/download.php/545454/blah [xvid].torrent
[13:27] <Guest53826> That type of url?
[13:27] <richthegeek> Antiga: try running this in a terminal "echo level 7 > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan"
[13:28] <Antiga> Richthegeek no such file or directory
[13:28] <Antiga> there is nothing in my ibm/fan folder
[13:28] <thanasis> can anyone help me?
[13:28] <richthegeek> ah wait, you need to do something else first.
[13:28] <richthegeek> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed
[13:28] <abhijain> need easy and fast download ububtu10.4 link
[13:28] <OzFalcon> Any problems with boot hanging and fstab?
[13:28] <suigeneris> I did something (I don't know what) and my mouse started highlighting each line on xchat as I moved mouse up and down. I can't click. any help?
[13:28] <Timrit> good morning. is there a way to lower the time that the notification bubbles are displayed?
[13:28] <richthegeek> antiga: (sorry about flood!) the first section of "using a stock kernel"
[13:29] <pog> has anybody tried unison over ftpfs? does this work reliably?  Is there a good ftp-sync tool? (have a few only-ftp webspaces, which I like use more efficent).
[13:29] <HexLaTor> does the lucyd out ?
[13:29] <abhijain> easy and fast download ubuntu 10.4 link
[13:29] <HexLaTor> final version
[13:29] <rww> !isitout
[13:30] <richthegeek> antiga: sorry I'm talking rubbish here! http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_Speed_Control might be a better starting point
[13:30] <sipior> abhijain: ubuntu has a web page for just this sort of thing.
[13:30] <Antiga> Looking through it.
[13:30] <suigeneris> HexLaTor, on 29th
[13:30] <HexLaTor> suigeneris, Ok
[13:30] <Antiga> What is odd as it doesn't seem to recognize my hardware or the fan at all
[13:30] <suigeneris> I did something (I don't know what) and my mouse started highlighting each line on xchat as I moved mouse up and down. I can't click. any help?
[13:31] <Antiga> running sensors returns... Adapter: Virtual device
[13:31] <Antiga> temp1:      +108.0°C  (crit = +112.0°C)
[13:31] <Antiga> coretemp-isa-0000
[13:31] <Antiga> Adapter: ISA adapter
[13:31] <Antiga> Core 0:      +32.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
[13:31] <FloodBot4> Antiga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <Antiga> coretemp-isa-0001
[13:31] <Antiga> Adapter: ISA adapter
[13:31] <richthegeek> Antiga: try using pastie.org in future
[13:31] <Antiga> yeah setting that up
[13:31] <Antiga> never used it before
[13:32] <Azoff> If anyone else plans to use or uses ubuntu 10.04 as a base for xbmc on the ASRock ION 330HT family or some other manufacture with a "Nuvoton 677x" IR reciver, please post on this bug to get a working driver: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/570700
[13:32] <Antiga> sensors returns... http://paste.ubuntu.com/423958/
[13:33] <Antiga> Running Sensors-detect returns http://paste.ubuntu.com/423961/
[13:34] <kyubutsu> !lucid > Azoff
[13:34] <suigeneris> I can't believe, moving the mouse on the touchpad fixed it,
[13:34] <pog> HexLaTor: there is the release canditate to download, I guess it can later easyly be updated.
[13:35] <richthegeek> Antiga: that ArchWiki link from earlier is related
[13:35] <HexLaTor> pog, i'll wait the final version :D no need for more problems xD !
[13:35] <Azoff> kyubutsu: yes, I know
[13:35] <WXZ> anyone know a good/simple reminder program
[13:35] <pog> HexLaTor: jep, i'll will be out soon.
[13:36] <Antiga> I've read both these pages, and still kinda stuck, what it's telling me to do basically is run a modprobe
[13:36] <ubuntu-usr> hi
[13:36] <Antiga> to get my hardware set right
[13:36] <Azoff> kyubutsu: if you read the bug report, you would notice that this is a patch in the lirc package that breaks 3d party drivers.
[13:36] <Antiga> so running um
[13:36] <sXs-> hello! Can someone help me? It looks like I have a problem with RAID1 controller driver on Ubuntu
[13:36] <OzFalcon> anyone have 10.04 hang on boot if missing drive from fstab?
[13:36] <delemi> Anyone having a problem with transmission since the last updates?
[13:36] <HexLaTor> pog, i use fedora & it's pretty good too
[13:37] <Azoff> kyubutsu: I guess the devs want to get this kind of feedback *before* the actual release?
[13:37] <ceu> high availability with 2 ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Any advice?
[13:37] <sXs-> hello! Can someone help me? It looks like I have a problem with RAID1 controller driver on Ubuntu
[13:37] <kyubutsu> maybe so, Azoff , just *not* here
[13:37] <ubuntu-usr> i've to restore partition where i've information about patition i bytes. does any linux partition tool allows me to recreate this partition in oryginal size?
[13:37] <Azoff> kyubutsu: well, where?
[13:37] <richthegeek> kyubutsu: try be more helpful.... #ubuntu-dev, #ubuntu+1
[13:38] <delemi> I have tried to sudo kill command and killall command and pkill and it will not stop the process
[13:38] <Azoff> richthegeek: I'll test the -dev
[13:38] <GodricBrutus> hi all. why are all the fonts in openoffice.org bold like this? http://uppix.net/2/d/e/6b2a6dec70f12ea504775149e056d.png
[13:38] <Pici> ceu : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:39] <ceu> Pici: ok, thanks
[13:39] <uLinux> hello
[13:39] <delemi> anyone know how to kill a process that wont stop
[13:39] <uLinux> Is it possible to disable yellow popups on ubuntu?
[13:40] <delemi> I have tried pkill, killall and sudo kill
[13:41] <sipior> delemi: have you tried appending a "-9" to any of those commands, to ensure that it sends a SIGKILL?
[13:41] <delemi> yes
[13:41] <sipior> delemi: probably a zombie. can you paste the relevant line from ps?
[13:41] <kyubutsu> delemi: use System>Administration>System monitor .. nice graphical interface which lists all running processes
[13:42] <delemi> 1940 ?        00:58:56 transmission <defunct>
[13:42] <kyubutsu> defunct means its already dead
[13:42] <delemi> but it tells me it is still running
[13:42] <richthegeek> sipior: I was under the impression that kill sent 9 by default?
[13:42] <sipior> delemi: yep. zombie :-)
[13:43] <sipior> richthegeek: no, it sends a SIGTERM, so the target can catch it.
[13:43] <richthegeek> delemi: either a zombie or a daemon restarting it?
[13:43] <okidokia> delemi> if your process has a GUI perhaps you can try to use xkill ?
[13:43] <richthegeek> sipior: ah, fair enough - our CompSci lecturer simplified it then
[13:43] <unimatrix9> hi there
[13:43] <delemi> Any ideas how to solve it? It keeps doing this since I ran out out of disk space yesterday
[13:44] <richthegeek> reboot?
[13:44] <delemi> Done that manytimes
[13:44] <richthegeek> just checking that you have turned it off and on again
[13:44] <unimatrix9> what , in your opinion is the best anti virus software for linux? ( besides Clam Av )
[13:44] <sipior> delemi: zombie processes don't actually hurt anything
[13:44] <richthegeek> delemi: try removing it from the init.d list?
[13:44] <kyubutsu> !antivirus > unimatrix9
[13:44] <unimatrix9> okey thanks
[13:44] <sXs-> hi guys! http://paste.ubuntu.com/423960/ this is what I get in System-> Administration -> Log file viewer -> messages. I exactly can't remember, but about 15:02 Ubuntu crashed and it is not in first time. Last crash was 5 days ago. Can someone help me?
[13:45] <delemi> it won't let me open transmission, tells me it is already running
[13:45]  * meowbuntu thinks unimatrix, and unimatrix9 are the same person 
[13:45] <unimatrix9> no they are not
[13:45] <delemi> I have completely unistalled and reinstalled transmission
[13:45] <meowbuntu> unimatrix9, you doont really need antivirus for any linux os atm
[13:45] <richthegeek> delemi: ah, there was someone else in here about an hour back with an issue with Transmission
[13:45] <unimatrix9> unimatrix9 is an registered name for me...
[13:45] <unimatrix9> at nick server ...
[13:45] <richthegeek> delemi: don't know what it was though, as I don't use or know anything about Transmission (I prefer Vuze but w/e)
[13:46] <K1ng\> hi
[13:46] <K1ng\> how do i change pppd permission so i dont have to use sudo?
[13:46] <unimatrix9> i do need anti virus , for disinfecting windows systems and usb drives ...
[13:46] <delemi> Thanks for all your input everyone.
[13:46] <meowbuntu> unimatrix9, the only reason anyone would want that is if you where recieving a file from another woindows user adn you wanted to pass it on to another windows user. the virus wil sit attached to the file not affecting any linux os but as soon as it gets on a windows os it will activate.
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> unimatrix9:  theres a few out for linux, clamav, and avg has a linux one also. may be others
[13:47] <richthegeek> delemi: my point is that the latest update might have ballsed it so wait for an update to it before using
[13:47] <delemi> thanks rickthegeek
[13:47] <meowbuntu> avg ha ha
[13:47] <WXZ> anyone know a good simple reminder program
[13:47] <unimatrix9> okey, thank you for the info..
[13:47] <dancallo> Can anyone help with a Dell wireless issue on an Inspiron B130 laptop running in Ubuntu 9.10?
[13:47] <meowbuntu> unimatrix9, clamav or avast are good
[13:47] <delemi> alarmclock
[13:47] <richthegeek> do you actually need an AV for linux?
[13:47] <WXZ> just pick a note + date/time
[13:48] <unimatrix9> avast for linux? ah
[13:48] <WXZ> ok, I'll check alarm clock delem
[13:48] <Pici> richthegeek: Not unless you're planning on serving files to Windows users and want to be proactive.
[13:48] <delemi> I have antivirus installed just because I dool boot
[13:48] <elanstan> U may need rootkit detectors
[13:48] <WXZ> I think I'm going to have to write my own :s
[13:48] <okidokia> WXZ> perhaps a post it ? :D
[13:48] <richthegeek> Pici: righto... my machine has a billion back holes into it through my server so an AV is the least of my worries
[13:48] <usr13> WXZ: crontab
[13:48] <WXZ> a post it?
[13:48] <kyubutsu> delemi: there is also a terminal program called top .. you might want to look into it, very useful for managing system resources
[13:49] <delemi> Thanks kyubutsu
[13:49] <meowbuntu> unimatrix9, as linux ios harder to hack the viruses creators dont bother creating them for it. also untill linux becomes more widespread adn like windows adn mac then they wont. also there are many linux os out there and that makes it even harder for them to create a one virus for all linux
[13:49] <WXZ> woah
[13:49] <WXZ> crontab
[13:50] <meowbuntu> ios = os
[13:50] <WXZ> can I karma you usr13?
[13:50] <usr13> !crontab | WXZ
[13:50] <meowbuntu> iso = os is
[13:50] <meowbuntu> ^ unimatrix9
[13:50] <delemi>  1940 delemi    20   0     0    0    0 Z  100  0.0  67:24.44 transmiss <defunct>
[13:50] <usr13> WXZ: I can give  you examples....
[13:50] <dancallo> Can someone help me?
[13:51] <WXZ> examples of?
[13:51] <usr13> WXZ: karma?
[13:51] <delemi> Just ran top and even though transmission is defunct it is taking 100% of CPU
[13:51] <usr13> crontab jobs
[13:51] <WXZ> isn't there a karma system on ubuntu
[13:51] <Pici> WXZ: On Launchpad only.
[13:51] <elanstan> Delemi kill the process
[13:51] <dennis> anyone here able to tell me if the flashplugin-installer iisue has been fixed yet ?
[13:51] <_bt> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&sll=53.850000,-2.100000&sspn=9.100000,19.200000&ie=UTF8&split=1&rq=1&ev=zi&start=10&hnear=&ll=52.45534,1.566126&spn=0,19.248047&z=6&layer=c&cbll=52.45534,1.566126&panoid=zrvGhFZaET69fflHPZ2xnw&cbp=12,226.98,,1,0.74
[13:52] <WXZ> nvm, forget it
[13:52] <delemi> that is the problem it won't kill
[13:52] <kyubutsu> delemi: press  k  on that terminal running top.. then enter the defunct process number and [enter]
[13:52] <meowbuntu> to burn a linux iso to cd what is best tao or sao
[13:52] <Pici> _bt: ?
[13:52] <usr13> WXZ: http://www.ntlug.org/BP-trryhend/CrontabJobsForDesktopUsers?action=view
[13:52] <nmvictor> is cheese the best their is for webcams in ubuntu?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> nmvictor:  depends on your needs.
[13:52] <meowbuntu> !fdwhaiof;
[13:52] <elanstan> Use.  Kill -9 "proc id no"
[13:52] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: dao ( disk at once ) ?
[13:52] <kyubutsu> delemi: when it asks what signal you want to use.. press 9
[13:53] <dancallo> Is there any tech support out there today?
[13:53] <samphippen> with desktop effects enabled what makes the title bar of the windows go transparent, how do I disable it?
[13:53] <dennis> does anyone have any idea about when the flashplayer installation problem will be solved in 10.04 ?
[13:53] <unimatrix9> let me point out that : when i run a mail server, i would need an anti virus scanner, because 90 % of my users have windows : second , usb flash drives that come from windows machines are infected, they need to be cleaned of all virus before they go back out in some one else his machine , third , i do not want to mail my friends any virus from someone else < beside these points , you are right, no need on an ubuntu desktop for any virus scanners...
[13:53] <unimatrix9>  and yes, its better they all would use ubuntu :)
[13:53] <Pici> dennis : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:53] <janmalte> dancallo: just ask and see if anyone is answering
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> samphippen:  thats a compiz setting. install the 'ccsm' tool an tweak it all you want.
[13:53] <dancallo> I'
[13:53] <dennis> ok
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | samphippen
[13:53] <dancallo> I've asked three times and no one is responding
[13:53] <samphippen> Dr_Willis, which setting do I use to disable the transparent window titles?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> dancallo:  perhaps no one knows.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> samphippen:  No idea.    you may want to ask in #compiz
[13:54] <nmvictor> Dr_Willis:  I just need anything  more clearer and with high video quality.
[13:54] <samphippen> I did, they said "That is controlled by your decorator theme which is a separate process"
[13:54] <dancallo> any help on a dell inspiron b130 wireless issue in Ubuntu 9.10?
[13:54] <delemi> did that as well, signal 9.
[13:54] <delemi> Kill PID 1940 with signal [15]: 9
[13:54] <delemi>  1940 delemi    20   0     0    0    0 Z  100  0.0  71:02.01 transmiss <defunct>
[13:54] <delemi> still running at 100%
[13:55] <delemi> what a day
[13:55] <janmalte> dancallo: what is your problem
[13:55] <janmalte> you have to describe it a bit
[13:55] <janmalte> genaral saying some isn't working isn't enough to get help
[13:55] <dancallo> Ubuntu 9.10 is not recognizing the wireless card in my laptop
[13:55] <bazhang> dancallo, what chipset
[13:55] <dancallo> don't know
[13:56] <delemi> If i could close it I would just not use it, but it is likethis after every reboot
[13:56] <usr13> !wireless | dancallo
[13:56] <BlackToW3x> hey guys i ned some help plz plz ...how to us Grep to print comments line on a C language program (// & /* & */) plz⁾
[13:56] <bazhang> dancallo, lspci in the terminal paste.ubuntu.com with the output please
[13:56] <unimatrix9> dancallo , does the light of the wireless blink?
[13:56] <kyubutsu> delemi: after 9 you need to confirm by pressing [enter]
[13:57] <delemi> I did kyubutsu
[13:57] <qwe__> Hi. I was playing around with graphic drivers and now I get "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode. .... (EE) No devices detected." How can I easily reinstall drivers (ati)? I've tried  to reinstall pretty much every package regarding to xorg and ati in synaptic.
[13:57] <BlackToW3x> hey guys i ned some help plz plz ...how to us Grep to print comments line on a C language program (// & /* & */) plz⁾
[13:57] <Pici> BlackToW3x: grep is for searching for data, can you clarify what you are asking?
[13:58] <dancallo> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/423972/
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> BlackToW3x:  possible google hit -> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fostermiller.org%2Ffindcomment.html&rct=j&q=grep+example+C+comments&ei=1zDYS53yPMP7lweeub2zBA&usg=AFQjCNGSQgl-Xo1dJn-ix5K3gR_labwmBQ&sig2=eK7DwcjRZuTC_sFbSPU65g
[13:58] <dancallo> unimatrix: there is no light for the wireless.
[13:58] <unimatrix9> BCM4318
[13:58] <bazhang> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318  dancallo
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> http://ostermiller.org/findcomment.html
[13:58] <dancallo> sounds right
[13:58] <bazhang> !broadcom
[13:59] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: moo !!
[13:59] <unimatrix9> moo to you too
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> geekphreak:  Pew Pew Pew! :0
[13:59] <BlackToW3x> i have a C program (test.c) and i want to use grep for looking line comments which have this sympbls(// /* */))
[13:59] <dancallo> thanks ubottu
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> BlackToW3x:  yes. i just found an answer on google. and gave you the URL.
[13:59] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: hope alls good from your side
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> geekphreak:  nailing down the shutters for preperation of release day :)
[14:00] <IP-v6> Hi. Could anyone recommend me some games ? I am terribly bored.  If there are FPS games, it would be great.
[14:00] <DJones> !games | IP-v6
[14:00] <geekphreak> good
[14:00] <GodricBrutus> any reason why all the fonts in openoffice.org bold like this? http://uppix.net/2/d/e/6b2a6dec70f12ea504775149e056d.png
[14:00] <geekphreak> hi h00k mate
[14:00] <BlackToW3x> thnx guys a lot....thnk you very very much for the help
[14:00] <BlackToW3x> thnk you
[14:00] <BlackToW3x> thank you all
[14:01] <dancallo> I'll give the website a try. Thanks for the hellp
[14:01] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: prob. there servers are on overload, i really had a  hardtime getting updates :(
[14:01] <IP-v6> thanks DJones,
[14:02] <aluno_> kjfg.ksjgykfsnbrjwe
[14:02] <DJones> IP-v6: Your welcome, there's a few FPS listed, although I'm not in a position to recommend any specific ones
[14:02] <Timrit> good morning. is there a way to lower the time that the notification bubbles are displayed?
[14:03] <Gh0stryd3r> good morning, how do you set the GAL server settings for IMAP for evolution email 10.04
[14:04] <Pici> Gh0stryd3r : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[14:04] <IP-v6> DJones, there is filtering option on second link. I am looking : )
[14:04] <Gh0stryd3r> Thanks
[14:04] <IP-v6> DJones, Thanks again
[14:05] <delemi> exit
[14:05] <richthegeek> Timrit: probably an ms value in the gconf-editor
[14:06] <Timrit> richthegeek: any idea where? a quick search of gconf-editor revealed nothing.
[14:06] <richthegeek> googling now
[14:06] <Timrit> i did some of that before joining.
[14:06] <richthegeek> ofc
[14:07] <Younder> is there a free version of miranda?
[14:07] <vincent_> when is the lucid coming?
[14:07] <HexLaTor> vincent_, 29 th
[14:07] <bazhang> vincent_, the 29th
[14:08] <dudeface> release candidate is pretty much it, will update anyway
[14:08] <vernr> I have a question about nicotine plus, is this the appropriate channel?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> vernr:  smokeing is bad for you :)
[14:08] <HexLaTor> dudeface, does the kernel still send the shutdown signal after ~10 hours ?
[14:09] <dudeface> why would it do taht
[14:09] <vernr> Dr_Willis, lol
[14:09] <HexLaTor> coz some guys front some problems such as that
[14:09] <dudeface> well, by the time it gets to rc the beta testing should have ironed out stuff like that
[14:10] <dudeface> guess you cant expect much from open source
[14:10] <HexLaTor> i don't know if somebody else has this problem, but they say that the screen freeze after ~10 hours ...
[14:10] <Younder> well ubuntu 10 is due this week (29'th)
[14:10] <Pici> !party
[14:10] <coz_>  buona giornata tutti.. bonne jounree tous les... good day all
[14:11] <HexLaTor> i don't know if someone else has reported that
[14:11] <K1ng\> Can someone help me?
[14:11] <plazia> I (like a muppet) accidentally installed the 32-bit version of Ubuntu, is there a way I can do some sorta dist-upgrade or something to the 64-bit version or do I need to re-install from scratch?
[14:11] <bazhang> plazia, full reinstall
[14:12] <usr13> K1ng\: Don't know.  (we don't know your question yet)
[14:12] <K1ng\> Mouse scroll button is not working
[14:12] <K1ng\> scroll is working but the button
[14:12] <plazia> bazhang, thanks : )
[14:12] <K1ng\> why so many flood bot? :S
[14:13] <usr13> K1ng\: If you highlight text and then go to an editor and hit the scroll button, what happens?
[14:13] <Cobwesel> hey guys, I'm trying to play urban terror on ubuntu 9.4 and the sound crashes out after like 2 minutes everytime.. any idea what would cause this? how to fix it?
[14:13] <K1ng\> usr13, in firefox
[14:13] <K1ng\> usr13, ok
[14:14] <K1ng\> usr13, nothing happen
[14:14] <usr13> K1ng\: Higlight text in the body of a page and then click the scroll button up in the google search bar, what happens?
[14:15] <K1ng\> usr13, its does nothing
[14:15] <usr13> K1ng\: Ok, you are right.  It's broken.
[14:16] <K1ng\> usr13, how to fix it?
[14:16] <K1ng\> its works in windows but ubuntu
[14:17] <lenux> join
[14:17] <usr13> K1ng\: You must have changed some settings.  We have no idea what you may have changed and therefore do not know how to change it back.
[14:17] <K1ng\> nope... this is fresh install
[14:17] <vernr> hello? I have a question about nicotine plus, is this the appropriate channel?
[14:18] <usr13> K1ng\: But you must realize that the middle mouse button does not have exactly the same function it does in MS Windows.
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> Radically different function :)
[14:18] <erUSUL> vernr: just ask
[14:19] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Was that for me?
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  yea. but i just saw the message scroll by too fast.. heh. dident see who said it.
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  had to teach that  'differance' to some guys at work a few weeks ago.
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  they were boggled that i could cut/paste so fast with just 1 hand. :)
[14:20] <pawe> i have little prob
[14:21] <kyubutsu> vernr: you could just log in to nicotine and ask the users there ...
[14:21] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Well, K1ng\  is comparing middle mouse button functions to MS Windows and thinks something is broken.  I'm trying to explain but not sure if he actually has an issue or not.
[14:21] <vernr> kyubutsu, thanks
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  :) yep. 'dosent work like in windows'  is not a 'bug' :) had to explain that to people befor also
[14:22] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Yes, I've explained that to a few people as well, and was hard to do unless you can actually be there in person and show it.
[14:22] <alcorn> I am on Ubuntu 10.04. Anyone notice a very long bootup time. It could just be something wrong with my setup. If so I think it may be something to do with my graphics card as the Ubuntu loading screen when it does finally show up, is low resolution. Now once I get all loaded up, Ubuntu runs like greased lightning. Has anyone experience a very long loading time on 10.04 and knows how to fix it?
[14:22] <h00k> morning, Geekthras
[14:22] <h00k> ah, geek isnt here
[14:22] <robo> hi: i'm trying to mount an external ide hard drive connected to a usb device but i'm unable to. lsusb shows it attached, and dmesg shows it mounted as a scsi device on /dev/hdb. However fdisk -l doesn't show that /dev/hdb. Any suggestions to get this mounted so i can pull some stuff off it?
[14:22] <coz_> alcorn,   you may want to go to the  #ubuntu+1 channel for that
[14:22] <h00k> alcorn: please head to #ubuntu+1 for Lucid discussion
[14:22] <alcorn> ok thanks guys
[14:23] <coz_> alcorn,   #ubuntu+1  is the channel for development versions  at least until tomorrow:)
[14:23] <LuckySMack> im using wget to download part of a site. but my internet disconnected. is there a way to restart it without redownloading existing files? to resume from what i have?
[14:23] <pickett> anyone know how i can install programs in a live cd session?
[14:23] <alcorn> coz_ ah ok... is 10.04 being released tomorrow?
[14:23] <h00k> alcorn: yes
[14:23] <stevecam> yep
[14:23] <K1ng\> new version coming up?
[14:23] <usr13> pickett: same way
[14:23] <coz_> alcorn,  i believe so guy :)
[14:23] <alcorn> coz_ oh ok. Is 10.04 being released tomorrow?
[14:23] <h00k> !luci
[14:23] <h00k> !lucid
[14:23] <alcorn> oh sorry, repeate
[14:24] <pickett> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[14:24] <pickett> i keep getting that error code
[14:24] <h00k> pickett: pastebin the entire thing, we can take a look
[14:24] <alcorn> join #ubuntu+1
[14:24] <alcorn> errmm
[14:24] <coz_> :)
[14:25] <pickett> oh yeah im on lucid soz
[14:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:26] <geekphreak> hi all
[14:27] <geekphreak> sorry got d/c
[14:27] <mmica> Hi everyone ;]
[14:27] <usr13> K1ng\: What version are you using?
[14:27] <null> Question:  What's the default RSS feed reader in 10.04?
[14:28] <h00k> !lucid | null
[14:28] <K1ng\> usr13, current stable version
[14:29] <coderscore> does anyone bother with a software firewall for ubuntu here?
[14:29] <geekphreak> coderscore: it already has one inbuilt into it
[14:29] <usr13> K1ng\: There are two lines,  LTS and what-ever-it-is-you-call-the-other.  For LTS users 8.04 is current version soon to be 10.04, (which is a 2 year cycle).
[14:29] <coderscore> geekphreak: thanks
[14:30] <geekphreak> coderscore:  no worries, google working with iptables :)
[14:30] <souffledev> hello #ubuntu!
[14:30] <usr13> K1ng\: I think current stable version is 9.10
[14:30] <K1ng\> usr13, how to see version?
[14:30] <geekphreak> souffledev: hola
[14:30] <K1ng\> You are using Ubuntu 9.10
[14:30] <K1ng\>                 - the Karmic Koala - released in October 2009 and supported until April 2011.
[14:30] <K1ng\> 	
[14:30] <coderscore> some in my local ubuntu channel insisted a router is sufficient, I'm under the conclusion that a software application is better for dynamic signature protection
[14:30] <coderscore> IM exploits etc. ..
[14:30] <usr13> K1ng\: lsb_release -a
[14:31] <souffledev> damn i've been looking for Ubuntu stickers all over the place :/
[14:31] <souffledev> geekphreak, how goes?
[14:31] <souffledev> :-)
[14:31] <K1ng\> usr13, i am using Karmic Koala
[14:31] <usr13> !lts | K1ng\
[14:31] <souffledev> !stickers
[14:31] <souffledev> !bumper
[14:32] <geekphreak> coderscore: let me put it this way, it gives me more control :)
[14:32] <souffledev> geekphreak, we know each other?
[14:32] <coderscore> geekphreak: indeed
[14:32] <geekphreak> huh what souffledev?
[14:32] <K1ng\> i am gonna download LUCID :D
[14:32] <souffledev> geekphreak, nuhting
[14:32] <K1ng\> is it out yet?
[14:32] <K1ng\> !Lucid
[14:32] <usr13> K1ng\: People on the LTS line upgrade every 2 years.  People on the other one will upgrade about every 6 or 8 months or so... not sure what that schedule is but it's pretty fast.
[14:32] <geekphreak> K1ng\:  hold on dont download yet
[14:32] <souffledev> haha in a week probably
[14:33] <tehowe> What happens when the next non-LTS release comes out for Lucid users?
[14:33] <springthunder> hheh
[14:33] <geekphreak> K1ng\: stable version coming out soon, get that man !!
[14:34] <usr13> K1ng\: You are actually just a little ahead on the LTS line.  The updates will do the trick, just stay where you are... it will be fine.
[14:34] <Full-Frugal> hi where is teh grub config list for ubuntu and whats it called
[14:34] <K1ng\> hmm
[14:34] <geekphreak> Full-Frugal: grub2?
[14:34] <Full-Frugal> there is no menu.lst like i am used to
[14:34] <h00k> ubottu: grub2 | Full-Frugal
[14:34] <Full-Frugal> ubuntu9.10 grub
[14:34] <Dr-Ubuntu> im quite happy with 10.4, finally no more issues with my wireless driver and havent run into any errors yet
[14:35]  * h00k ushers Lucid discussion to #ubuntu+1
[14:35] <geekphreak> hi h00k :)
[14:35] <LzrdKing> Dr-Ubuntu: time to upgrade then!
[14:35] <h00k> geekphreak: greetings
[14:35] <Dr-Ubuntu> i allready did :)
[14:35] <K1ng\> i used to had hardy
[14:36] <jotall> Is it possible with a Radeon, or any, card to use all three outputs, VGA/DVI/HDMI (DisplayPort?) at once for three monitors?
[14:36] <moreia> tehowe: Not sure what your question is? You have a choice, to LTS or not to LTS. When the next release comes out you can abandon LTS if you want it or you stick with Lucid until there's a new LTS release.
[14:36] <K1ng\> and hardy was much better than this one
[14:36] <moreia> tehowe: not sure if that answers your question, tho.
[14:36] <usr13> K1ng\: I still use hardy
[14:36] <Full-Frugal> h00k y not use !grub2 | nick nest time its a short cut for ubottu
[14:36] <apparle> kya bhai log kya chal ra....
[14:37] <h00k> Full-Frugal: I know that :)
[14:37] <Full-Frugal> !ubottu | h00k
[14:37] <ahau> #ubuntu-es
[14:37] <usr13> K1ng\: On my main desktop system I use hardy that is....
[14:37] <Full-Frugal> ahau: #ubuntu-es is not regestered
[14:37] <K1ng\> well i will use win for few days
[14:37] <Dr-Ubuntu> is there btw any known issues with dual boot grub vista and ubuntu 9? cuz i had several times my grub just wiped after i booted in and out windows without doing any changes. now i changed to ubuntu 10 and downgraded windows to xp it seems to run fine.
[14:38] <tehowe> @moreia: So new bits and pieces aren't added into Lucid from the Noxious Newt or whatever it happens to be... but I assume bugfixes for Lucid are released periodically?
[14:38] <h00k> tehowe: head to #ubuntu+1 for Lucid discussion, please
[14:38] <geekphreak> Dr-Ubuntu: i have heard of some people complain about that
[14:38] <moreia> tehowe: exactly.
[14:38] <usr13> K1ng\: I have a couple other machines here that I do different things with, but for our main system, it is LTS and am not in a hurry to upgrade as it does all I expect and need.
[14:39] <moreia> h00k: I thought this was a fair place for questions like "how does LTS actually work?"
[14:39] <Dr-Ubuntu> i blame vista :)
[14:39] <jo_> anyone get Ovation™ U760 by Novatel Wireless  to work on beta 10.04 hope it works on final...
[14:39] <K1ng\> hardy is less buggy :)
[14:39] <tehowe> @h00k: Ok cool... maybe they can help wit my intermittent wireless.
[14:39] <K1ng\> who knows about lucid :p
[14:39] <K1ng\> new version = new bugs
[14:39] <h00k> Dr-Ubuntu: Grub2 is slightly larger than Grub, what happens is some Windows software will overwrite the MBR without checking to see if there is anything there.  Common things seem to be Backup Software, Security software, etc
[14:39] <kyubutsu> moreia: you should visit #ubuntu-offtopic for all other non-support related discussions
[14:40] <geekphreak> h00k: is there any way to avoid it?
[14:40] <h00k> geekphreak: uninstall whatever software is doing it :(
[14:40] <Dr-Ubuntu> mmmm
[14:40] <usr13> K1ng\: Some of the stuff folks believe are bugs are just differences...
[14:40] <brejeiro[xi]> Does anyone know when will the new version of ubuntu server will be released?
[14:40] <Dr-Ubuntu> could be anti virus then geek?
[14:40] <K1ng\> staff*
[14:41] <moreia> tehowe: Soooo...sounds like you should take your questions to #ubuntu+1
[14:41] <jo_> anyone get Ovation™ U760 by Novatel Wireless  to work on beta 10.04 hope it works on final...???
[14:41] <geekphreak> h00k: well thats the hard part !! , cause some people did not install any tools like that still had issues, dont know if its vista boot loader working overtime
[14:41] <usr13> K1ng\: Go back to 8.04 if you don't like it.
[14:41] <geekphreak> !lucid > brejeiro[xi]
[14:41] <K1ng\> usr13, i hate the upgrade..... its will upgrade everything
[14:42] <cofly> 洗个热水澡
[14:42] <Dr-Ubuntu> lol
[14:42] <usr13> K1ng\: What?
[14:42] <Pici> !zh | cofly
[14:42] <geekphreak> hi Pici
[14:42] <K1ng\> like 600mb download + 600 mb upgrade
[14:42] <brejeiro[xi]> ubottu: Thanks!
[14:42] <Pici> geekphreak: howdy
[14:42] <rolsworth> when i install ubuntu to netbook the flash video playback is really choppy but really smooth when i boot win. Is there something i need to do on ubuntu?
[14:42] <h00k> geekphreak, Dr-Ubuntu: What I have seen issues with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/482757
[14:42] <geekphreak> h00k:  thanks will check
[14:43] <Dr-Ubuntu> thanks h00k ill check it out
[14:43] <usr13> K1ng\: If you want stable, stick with stable release.
[14:43] <h00k> geekphreak, Dr-Ubuntu: Specifically: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/482757/comments/16
[14:43] <h00k> and the next few comments
[14:45] <geekphreak> h00k: many of them are dell hell
[14:46] <aybabtu> im in grub how do i restart my computer from here?
[14:46] <h00k> aybabtu: ctrl+alt+del
[14:46] <aybabtu> im trying to get KDE working but I got a black screen so I tried to reconfiigure the x server
[14:46] <Dr-Ubuntu> ah i deleted that vista hidden repair partiton while i was reinstalling the other day so that could of been it screwing things up i guess
[14:47] <aybabtu> h00k know anything about the KDE black screen issues?
[14:47] <allgandu> how to open ports for playing starcraft?
[14:47] <geekphreak> Dr-Ubuntu: naaw that wont do it
[14:47] <Manfred-> Is there any way to see the remaining power with a cli ?
[14:47] <Dr-Ubuntu> Oo
[14:47] <h00k> aybabtu: I do not, but perhaps the channel does
[14:47] <tehowe> Ok, here's a pretty general question - is there a system hotkey to minimize all windows? Like START-d under that other OS? I see the little thing in the bottom left corner that you can mouse down to to click
[14:47] <geekphreak> aybabtu: any error message?
[14:48] <allgandu> geekphreak, how to open ports in ubuntu to play on battle.net starcraft.. plz
[14:48] <h00k> tehowe: ctrl+alt+d
[14:48] <lalalol> WTF!!! suddenly i have no more sound!!!!!
[14:48] <h00k> !wtf | lalalol
[14:48] <geekphreak> tehowe:  ctrl+alt+d
[14:48] <western> tehowe ctrl-d
[14:49] <lalalol> help plz
[14:49] <geekphreak> aybabtu: do you get any error message?
[14:49] <lalalol> it's urgent
[14:49] <h00k> ubottu: tell lalalol about sound
[14:50] <richthegeek> lalaol: curb swearing, this is a family channel, and everyone's issue is as urgent as all others... yeah I know, i'm annoying you with this.
[14:50] <om26er> h00k, ubottu got smart?
[14:50] <h00k> om26er: :)
[14:50] <jotall> So families don't swear?
[14:51] <lalalol> h00k, al of a sudden my sound stopped
[14:51] <geekphreak> jotall:  please keep it clean :)
[14:51] <tehowe> geekphreak: ty
[14:51] <h00k> jotall: language is clean in Ubuntu channels :)
[14:51] <jotall> geekphreak: Are families clean? ;)
[14:51] <richthegeek> jotall: of course they do, my mother swears like a trooper...
[14:51] <geekphreak> aybabtu:  are you there somewhere ?
[14:51] <Urda> jotall: you've obviously never seen my family
[14:51] <geekphreak> tehowe:  welcome
[14:52] <eurythmia> I am currently on a Jaunty laptop. Last night I hooked up my laptop to my 1080p monitor at home, and set the resolution accordingly, ensureing (through the display manager) that my LVDS was off. When I left home this morning, I did not bother to switch the output back to LVDS, and instead just suspended my computer and brought it to work. Now when I log in to gnome, my LVDS is blank, and I can't get any output on an external monitor (there are no
[14:52] <eurythmia> (I am currently working off of tty01 because it's the only way I can actually *use* this computer at the moment)
[14:52] <hoelk> "Wtf" is supposed swearing?
[14:52] <h00k> hoelk: Yes. Acronyms count as well.
[14:53] <richthegeek> hoelk: the F isn't "fridge"
[14:53] <geekphreak> eurythmia:  gui wont come up, any errors?
[14:53] <FreeBSD-monster> Hello,how i can enable freebsd emulation in ubuntu 9.10?
[14:53] <hoelk> What the family?
[14:53]  * underdev ear's are burning.  BURNING I SAY!
[14:53] <eurythmia> geekphreak: that is correct, no gui ... I don't see any output, and can't ewven switch over to a tty when that occurs, so I'm not sure about the errors.
[14:53] <geekphreak> FreeBSD-monster: never knew it had one , interesting
[14:53] <jotall> What do you do when there are popular packages with swearwords?
[14:53] <richthegeek> hoelk: exactly...
[14:53] <richthegeek> jotall: such as?
[14:54] <sipior> FreeBSD-monster: you could always run freebsd in a vm i suppose. what exactly are you trying to emulate?
[14:54] <richthegeek> jotall: pm me if you are wary
[14:54] <Full-Frugal> ok is it easy to chanload another grub menu to the ubuntu one
[14:54] <jotall> richthegeek: Such as I don't know, but if there are and if there will be
[14:54] <geekphreak> eurythmia: can you try something for me , press alt+ right arrow key to move to next terminal then type startx , what throws up?
[14:54] <sipior> jotall: i wouldn't worry about it.
[14:54] <richthegeek> jotall: I suppose GIMP almost counts except no-one uses it as an expletive so much as an insult
[14:54] <jotall> Like, what if GIMP had another name..
[14:54] <jotall> yeah..
[14:54] <FreeBSD-monster> sipior:i wrote a RedTube Downloader in c++ on freebsd,instead installing compilers,i want to emulate it
[14:55] <jotall> But if something had something as FUCK?
[14:55] <h00k> FreeBSD-monster: there is no "emulate freebsd'
[14:55] <FreeBSD-monster> awww
[14:55] <h00k> jotall: Don't push the issue.
[14:55] <FreeBSD-monster> linux sucks
[14:55] <bazhang> jotall, please stop that
[14:55] <FloodBot2> FreeBSD-monster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:55] <jotall> h00k: It's a legitimate question.
[14:55] <FreeBSD-monster> linux really sucks
[14:55] <bazhang> jotall, do you have an actual support question?
[14:55] <sipior> FreeBSD-monster: go away.
[14:55] <FreeBSD-monster> sipior:no u
[14:56] <richthegeek> lol, kick? seems a little harsh..
[14:56] <sipior> here i thought he had an interesting question...
[14:56] <eurythmia> geekphreak: hm ... stopping gdm and typing startx brings me to my regular desktop, as I would wish it to be ... I wonder if I can start gdm normally now and have that happen ...
[14:57] <geekphreak> eurythmia: ok desktop is up now, which is good , did you uninstall kdm ?
[14:57] <hoelk> http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/
[14:58] <LuckySMack[droid> Using wget to download part of a site, say site.domain.com how can I make it ignore certain paths? Say site.domain.com/blah so it ignores everything past the blah path
[14:58] <lalalol> help needed immediately, my sound suddenly stopped, i tried everything
[14:58] <Dr-Ubuntu> have you tried rebooting? heh
[14:58] <h00k> lalalol: try killing pulseaudio
[14:58] <eurythmia> geekphreak: yep ... now that it's up, things are the way they should be. I suspect it may have something to do with the the way gdm starts a session (with settings from the previous session) as opposed to the way startx starts the session (with the saved configuration).
[14:58] <xomp> hallo, I've a Linode server running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and would like to reduce it's footprint as I'm limited to HDD space as is. Are there any aspects of Ubuntu I can remove via the console that can maybe free up some disk space? Some unwanted applications or bloat by chance?
[14:58] <lalalol> h00k, i just rebooted
[14:58] <geekphreak> LuckySMack[droid: try httrack
[14:59] <eurythmia> brb, I'm going to start xchat now ;)
[14:59] <Full-Frugal> now about chainloadiong in grub 2
[14:59] <h00k> Full-Frugal: I think that is covered in the grub2 wiki
[14:59] <bloopletech> xomp: X, gnome, kde?
[14:59] <jotall> Heh, so there is at least one package. "libacme-brainfuck-perl" I guess we can't talk about that one in here?
[14:59] <bloopletech> xomp: apt-get cache?
[14:59] <geekphreak> jotall: thate nough
[14:59] <xomp> bloopletech, no DE's are used as it's headless, but they may be installed
[14:59] <Full-Frugal> yes sort of just wanting to know if it can be done from ubuntu to puppy on seperate hdd
[14:59] <geekphreak> enough*
[15:00] <h00k> jotall: Please be mature about the issue. Thanks.
[15:00] <chun_> Wonder if anyone can help - I seem to have lost my volume control from my tray - how can I get it back?
[15:00] <jotall> h00k: Please be mature about censorship and rules.
[15:00] <geekphreak> chun_: press alt+f2 >> type gnome-volume-control
[15:00] <bloopletech> xomp: Well uninstalling them will free some space up, as will clearing the apt-get cache (AFAIK)
[15:00] <xomp> bloopletech, E: Invalid operation cache
[15:01] <bloopletech> xomp: It's not a direct command it's part of apt-get, ... you'll need to google it
[15:01] <sipior> jotall: do you have anything interesting to ask about?
[15:01] <eurythmia> geekphreak, I don't know why I didn't think of trying startx directly ... but for now, I blame the morning ;)  ... thanks for the help.
[15:01] <Pici> !guidelines > jotall
[15:01] <lalalol> h00k, help plz
[15:01] <h00k> jotall: That is a language, mention of that language is fine. Using the words as curse words are not allowed. If you have other issues, please check the !guidelines and !codeofconduct
[15:01] <LuckySMack[droid> geekphreak: install with apt? Httrack
[15:01] <chun_> geekphreak -- that opens "sounds preferences" but doesn't give me the volume icon back
[15:02] <eurythmia> bloopletech, it's actually "apt-get clean"
[15:02] <h00k> lalalol: I'm not sure how to fix your issues, also please use the full words as English isn't everyone's native language and they may not understand.
[15:02] <bloopletech> eurythmia, ok thanks
[15:02] <jotall> h00k: So if I do have an issue with libacme-brainfuck-perl in 10.04 it shall not be brought up in this channel?
[15:02] <eurythmia> bloopletech, no problem :)
[15:02] <h00k> jotall: correct, you can take Lucid issues to #ubuntu+1
[15:02] <lalalol> k h00k
[15:02] <jotall> h00k: Haha, well, 9.10, doesn't matter.
[15:03] <eurythmia> bloopletech, "apt-get clean all" will ensure that all the cache and downloaded packages are cleared out.
[15:03] <bloopletech> eurythmia, ah
[15:03] <h00k> jotall: That is fine, as it is a package. Do not use 'curse' words as curse words, however. If you have other questions, feel free to pm me
[15:04] <xomp> bloopletech, /etc/apt/cache ?
[15:04] <LucidGuy> Need to be able to run a script on all my my ubuntu boxes (40+).  How would you guys recommend.  I can throw together a script containing individual ssh commands but I would prefer to not have clients root password saved within the script.  I also would prefer to not put an ssh key on all clients to prevent the password prompt.  Any suggestions?
[15:04] <geekphreak> LuckySMack[droid: yes you can apt-get it , there is gui version of it do a sudo apt-cache search httrack
[15:04] <StHa> Has anyone tried to install Ubuntu on a mobile phone :P?
[15:05] <h00k> ubottu: mobile | StHa
[15:05] <LuckySMack[droid> Yea thanks.glad there's a cli version too.thanks a bunch
[15:05] <geekphreak> LuckySMack[droid: no worries
[15:05] <StHa> h00k, thanks :)
[15:05] <fellipe_brasil> hi friends. before doing apt-get install, how can I know prior the version of the software wich will be  installed?
[15:06] <sipior> LucidGuy: have a look at "cssh"
[15:06] <erUSUL> !version | fellipe_brasil
[15:06] <fellipe_brasil> I am using ubuntu 8.04 server
[15:06] <scunizi> Does the samba service start before a user logs in to the desktop?
[15:07] <sipior> scunizi: should do, yes
[15:08] <scunizi> sipior: that's what I thought.. I know it does on a server install. but a desktop install I can't seem to access after just hitting the power button
[15:10] <sipior> scunizi: you've logged in and verified that the service is running?
[15:10] <sipior> scunizi: logged in remotely, i mean.
[15:11] <scunizi> sipior: nope.. didn't think of that .. so I'm now in via ssh .. how do I find out if it's running? sudo service samba status?
[15:12] <sipior> scunizi: that sounds right :-)
[15:12] <h00k> scunizi: yep
[15:12] <sipior> scunizi: i don't think the sudo is necessary, though.
[15:14] <scunizi> sipior: yep that worked.. and it's running.  In Nautilus when in the Networking tab I see "windows network" but when I click on that... there's nothing when there should be 2 machines there.. one xp and one kubuntu.
[15:15] <explorealex> i installed ubuntu 9.10 on a compaq pressario laptop. now the wireless LAN button won't switch on.. what should i do?
[15:15] <scunizi> I've verified the network group my current machine is logged in as
[15:15] <uLinux> How can I disable yellow popups i.e. shortcut comments?
[15:15] <uLinux> Do I need to remove all comments?
[15:16] <kabal> hi, how can i enter to command mode in vi??
[15:16] <coz_> uLinux,  I am not clear on what you mean... can you give an example I try here?
[15:16] <moreia> kabal: you mean ex mode?
[15:16] <h00k> kabal: esc
[15:17] <Full-Frugal> wheree does ubuntu install grub in mbr or root
[15:17] <anodesni> Hi, Wubi (ubuntu 10.04 64/32 bit) is crashing under windows 7 64 bit, is there a fix?
[15:17] <uLinux> coz_ if i hove the mouse on a shortcut a yellow popup shows its name and/or comment
[15:17] <h00k> Full-Frugal: to the MBR
[15:18] <h00k> anodesni: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid Discussion :)
[15:18] <ubuntu> i need to change grub options from ubuntu live cd, how can i do that?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Full-Frugal, is grub not showing up ?
[15:18] <anodesni> h00k: I could ask the same for 9.10
[15:18] <h00k> anodesni: is it crashing in 9.10?
[15:18] <LucidGuy> sipior, will do .. looking into cssh
[15:18] <anodesni> h00k: from what I read from google
[15:19] <coz_> uLinux,  mm .. do you  mean within an applications menus?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> anodesni, nope, wubi is supposed to support beta OSs
[15:19] <uLinux> coz_ in any shortcut..
[15:19] <BluesKaj> not
[15:19] <h00k> anodesni: If you are having a problem with 10.04, please take it to #ubuntu+1
[15:19] <anodesni> h00k: ok
[15:19] <kabal> ok i press esc, and how can i quit and save?
[15:19] <kabal> vi
[15:19] <h00k> kabal: :wq
[15:19] <coz_> uLinux,   then I am not sure  because I cannot reproduce that here ....sorry
[15:19] <uLinux> coz_ if you stay with mouse over firefox shortcut it shows a popup
[15:19] <anodesni> kabal: or :x
[15:19] <kabal> together?
[15:20] <uLinux> those popups are annoying
[15:20] <coz_> uLinux,  ok let me try again
[15:20] <h00k> kabal: press esc to enter command mode, then type :wq
[15:20] <gurulenin> hi
[15:20] <h00k> kabal: you should see those 3 characters in the bottom left, then hit enter
[15:20] <gurulenin> dear ubuntu user
[15:20] <h00k> kabal: w is for writw, q is for quit
[15:20] <coz_> uLinux,  no its not doing that here... I may have inadvertantly disabled that  but I know I didnt do it  voluntarily
[15:20] <kabal> i pressed wq and it show at bottom "recording"
[15:21] <uLinux> coz_ maybe is it a compiz option?
[15:21] <h00k> kabal: you need the colon down there, too
[15:21] <uLinux> *is it?
[15:21] <iceroot> kabal: sounds like vim, use   esc :wq
[15:21] <coz_> uLinux,  I dont think so but let me check
[15:21] <rldowling03> I am preparing to get ready for 10.04, and I have always wondered, should I be using 64 bit or 32 bit version? I have a 64 bit processor and have used 64 bit windows, just wondering if it is beneficial to use 64 bit version or just stick to 32 bit
[15:21] <Full-Frugal> !hdh
[15:21] <h00k> rldowling03: 64bit is the wave of the future!
[15:21] <iceroot> rldowling03: depending on your ram but amd64 version is running fine
[15:22] <anodesni> rldowling03: how much RAM?
[15:22] <geekphreak> hello all
[15:22] <rldowling03> I have 4GB of ram running AMD dual core
[15:22] <h00k> it doesn't depend on ram. there are other benefits, too.
[15:22] <anodesni> rldowling03: definitely 64bit
[15:22] <soicon> hi guys, my thunderbird 2.0 on Ubuntu receive email with wrong content, for example, emails sent from A to me have the content of the email which I received from B and I totally lost the email from A, so...what's my problem here, I really don't know what happened ? my mail box is around <300MB. Thanks
[15:22] <coz_> uLinux,   I dont see any  option .. specifically ... in ccsm for that  however i do recall ...last year...having to set that in one of the compiz plugins
[15:22] <rldowling03> okay, is there any issues I should be aware of with using 64 bit
[15:23] <anodesni> rldowling03: not really unless you use zsnes
[15:23] <uLinux> coz_ it sucks there isnt any option for that..
[15:23] <coz_> uLinux,  is this karmic
[15:23] <uLinux> yes ubuntu karmic
[15:23] <rldowling03> thanks anodesni :)
[15:23] <uLinux> wait
[15:24] <coz_> uLinux, let me see of a way to disable tooltips
[15:24] <geekphreak> soicon: imap service?
[15:24] <q__> f
[15:25] <soicon> geekphreak: I am using POP3
[15:25] <alien260> Hello, dose anyone know how to extend the top panel on dual screen with ubuntu?
[15:25] <geekphreak> soicon:  does it look good in web interface ?
[15:25] <soicon> and all  the emails won't be kept on server after being downloaded
[15:25] <kabal> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[15:25] <geekphreak> soicon:  you have to enable option "leave message on server"
[15:26] <coz_> uLinux,   the older way of doing this in ccsm was top open the opacity brightness and saturation plugin and adding   (name=gnome-panel & type=tootip) and setting opcaity value to 0
[15:26] <coz_> uLinux,  that may still be valid
[15:26] <uLinux> coz_  ok
[15:26] <nmvictor> is their a way to convert a scanned document to a normal typed document to be edited in open office?
[15:26] <geekphreak> soicon: click edit >> account settings >> enable it there for your account
[15:27] <soicon> geekphreak: is it helpful ? I will try, I haven't try to login to the webmail yet
[15:27] <coz_> uLinux,  or open gconf editore  manuever to /apps/panel/global   and disable tooltips_enabled
[15:27] <kabal> vi is hard
[15:28] <Bunbury> hi is there a service manager in ubuntu?
[15:28] <jbwiv> guys, I experience pretty regular system freezes. Hard freezes... magic sysrq won't even work. Turned off Compiz...the lockups happen much less frequently. Replaced video card, no dice. Replaced RAM, and it seemed to fix if for a few days, but after upgrading to Lucid, seems the lockups are back. Opened case, all fans are working properly. I'm not sure what to do at this point. Could it be the motherboard? Something with Linux itself?
[15:28] <cipher> anyone know the best way to do a virus scan on windows from ubuntu via wubi install,nasty virus wont let me do anything on win so im trying to fix it fromubuntu
[15:28] <Hillshum> kabal: But worth it if you do lots of text editing
[15:28] <uLinux> coz_ how do i open it
[15:28] <geekphreak> Bunbury:  sudo apt-get install rcconf
[15:28] <alien260> kabal: use nano or pico then :P
[15:28] <Bunbury> ah ty ty geek
[15:28] <coz_> uLinux,   open a terminal   type   gconf-editor
[15:28] <uLinux> tks
[15:28] <coz_> uLinux,   then   /apps/ panel / global   and in the right panel lookfor tootips_enabled
[15:29] <geekphreak> soicon: chanes are mails will be ok there, prob. folder/profile got currupted thats the only thing i can think of, try to log into webmail option see everything is ok there
[15:29] <Guest53826> Hey, any real difference between x86 and AMD64 builds?
[15:29] <geekphreak> Bunbury: welcome
[15:29] <Guest53826> I have 2GB ram, 2.2ghz dual 64 AMD CPU
[15:29] <tsimpson> Guest35290: AMD64 runs only on 64bit processors, the x86 version runs on both
[15:29] <uLinux> coz_ tks a lot :)
[15:29] <coz_> Guest53826,  you mean in terms of speed ?
[15:29] <uLinux> im gonna save that command
[15:29] <coz_> uLinux,   did that work for you?
[15:29] <sipior> jbwiv: anything interesting get dumped in the system logs that corresponds to the time of the crashes?
[15:29] <uLinux> yes coz_
[15:30] <coz_> cool
[15:30] <Bunbury> k geek i have it installed how do I use it
[15:30] <Guest53826> coz_: Speed, reliability, resource usage etc
[15:30] <nmvictor> Guest53826: X86 is common, you hardly find AMD64, mostly X64 work for servers purposes
[15:30] <alkisg_web> While running `sudo rsync -av myhomedir mybackupdir`, rsync creates all hidden (starting with dot) directories with root as the owner, instead of alkisg. Isn't `-a` supposed to preserve dir ownership? What am I doing wrong?
[15:30] <geekphreak> Bunbury: just run sudo rcconf , you can enable/disable services from it
[15:30] <ratapoil> what's the point of adding a deb-src to the repositories?
[15:30] <tsimpson> q__: please don't version people
[15:30] <coz_> Guest53826,  well I have both 32 bit and amd 64 bit.... 64 bit is running lucid  and it is faster in booting and far less resource intensive howeve
[15:30] <d7777777> How can I get my current user default public key (openssh)?
[15:30] <Bunbury> ah is there anything else with a better UI?
[15:30] <coz_> Guest53826,  however that may also be due to lucid as well :)
[15:30] <q__> sorry, but why?
[15:30] <Guest53826> coz_: So... Which to get? :s
[15:31] <tsimpson> q__: because many people consider it rude to do so without asking
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Guest53826, I run amd64 bit lucid on my desktop, it runs fine
[15:31] <cipher> whats the best virus program to scan windows with from ubuntu via wubi
[15:31] <geekphreak> Bunbury:  there is a gui version of rcconf >> you canc search for it, there are other option in synaptic too :)
[15:31] <sipior> alkisg_web: the permissions will be preserved, not the owner. you can fix that later with a "chown -R <username>"
[15:31] <q__> :)
[15:31] <coz_> Guest53826,  if you want you can install the 32 bit on a 64 bit system  I dont think you will notice much out of the ordinary
[15:31] <gdb> coz_: 64 bit uses more memory as a matter of course.  I'm not sure what you mean by "less resource intensive."  64 binaries also take up more disk space.  I get booting faster, I get running faster, but 64 bit is more resource intensive (ie; your memory and disk resources).
[15:31] <q__> ok
[15:31] <mrp> 10.04 today?
[15:31] <mrp> 28th?
[15:31] <Guest53826> Ok cool thanks, I guess AMD64
[15:31] <mrp> 29th>?
[15:31] <Pici> !lucid | mrp
[15:31] <mrp> :D
[15:31] <FloodBot3> mrp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <mrp> Pici: ta
[15:31] <alkisg_web> sipior: ugh, but what if I have 5 different owner in subdirs? Isn't there a tool that preserves owners?
[15:32] <soicon> geekphreak: thank you, let me try
[15:32] <tsimpson> Guest53826: you only need the 64 bit version to fully utilize >4.2GB of RAM, otherwise the speed difference is negligible
[15:32] <geekphreak> soicon:  welcome
[15:32] <gurulenin> can i set up authentication for cd-drive?
[15:32] <Guest53826> tsimpson: Hmmmm, thought it may be
[15:32] <coz_> gdb,   I will have to check again.. I didnt notice those things but i will check again thanks
[15:32] <coz_> thanks
[15:32] <uLinux> coz_ at least it disabled shortcut popups
[15:32] <Guest53826> tsimpson: But if I'm reinstalling anywya.. Meh?
[15:32] <Glowball> Hi. I'm on an old pc with Intrepid... Just wondering what would happen if I delete these repositories and add Karmic's/Lucid's instead
[15:32] <alien260> Hello, dose anyone know how to extend the top panel on dual screen with ubuntu?
[15:33] <geekphreak> Pici:  in old ubuntu wasnet there a service-admin command or something to manage services, did they take it off?
[15:33] <Bunbury> im looking for a ui like the windows service manager
[15:33] <jbwiv> sipior: no, nothing of note
[15:33] <Bunbury> stop, start, automaic, manual
[15:33] <alkisg_web> sipior: thank you.
[15:33] <coz_> Glowball,  well you may run into issues you were not expecting.... I would suggest just a clean install of lucid after it's release
[15:33] <sipior> alkisg_web: you know, i just checked the man page, and -o (implied by -a) should preserve the owner. not sure why it wouldn't there. you're not moving these files onto another system?
[15:33] <alkisg_web> sipior: I"m copying the files into another disk
[15:33] <geekphreak> Bunbury: let me see if i can ccome up with something
[15:33] <Pici> geekphreak: There was, I don't know if it plays nice with upstart though.  The package is 'bum' though.
[15:34] <uLinux> coz_ but still there is some other yellow popups in time section, desktop button, trash shortcut
[15:34] <geekphreak> Pici:  oh ok thanks
[15:34] <Glowball> coz_: was already planning to do that :) So actually, I can try it, since it needs a reinstall anyway
[15:34] <coz_> Glowball,  there you go   I think you will be much happier with aclean install :)
[15:34] <sipior> alkisg_web: another thing to try: get a root prompt via sudo -i, and then try the rsync command again.
[15:34] <gdb> coz_: The differences are very slight.  If you have the ability to do so, you can install the 64 and 32 bit versions of Ubuntu in side by side virtual machines (eg; Virtual Box) and do a comparison of both while running their respective default installs (using df, free, and other commands to look at resource usage).
[15:35] <alkisg_web> sipior, thanks, trying...
[15:35] <coz_> uLinux,  then you could try the ccsm window rule under opacity brightness and saturation plugin
[15:35] <Bunbury> k geek
[15:35] <Glowball> Will there be an Lubuntu iso available btw? There are iso's for the beta releases, but since it's not going to be a real derivative just yet...
[15:36] <bazhang> Glowball, not as of lucid no
[15:36] <coz_> gdb,  I may do that at some point  just to see the differences...however I do notice... on the 64 bit system which is a lesser system than I am runnong here... with a lesser video card...that it does tend to use fewer resources  particularly video resources  but I will test at some point anyway   thanks again :)
[15:36] <gurulenin> when i copy large file (<1GB) to my 4 GB pen drive(USB2.0) its speed slowdown to 1 MB. some times hanging. but on windows copying speed is fast
[15:36] <alkisg_web> sipior: nah, the same problem, rsync sets "root" as the owner of hidden dirs (while it keeps the owner of non-hidden dirs)
[15:36] <coz_> gdb,  but I am also attributing some of that to lucid as well
[15:37] <Glowball> I thought so. Damn. But if I download a beta cd and update everything... I will eventually have a full Lubuntu install, no?
[15:37] <sionyn> ITM!!
[15:37] <bazhang> Glowball, lubuntu-desktop package
[15:37] <geekphreak> Bunbury: try sysv-rc-conf
[15:37] <Glowball> bazhang: I know. But then it's cluttered with GNOME apps
[15:37] <sipior> alkisg_web: the contents of the directories are correct, though?
[15:38] <bazhang> Glowball, you could go with alternate or minimal installer
[15:38] <alkisg_web> sipior: yes, I think so
[15:38] <bazhang> Glowball, minimal is around 10mb
[15:38] <Traveler3> hey, will they release at midnight in UK time or est?
[15:38] <Glowball> The alternate installer... I have never actually looked at that. And I don't know about the minimal installer tbh, I'll have a look at that
[15:38] <Azelphur> !isitoutyet | Travel
[15:38] <bazhang> Traveler3, when its done no set time
[15:38] <geekphreak> soicon: any luck?
[15:39] <Bunbury> ty geek
[15:40] <geekphreak> Bunbury: welcome, hope it works for you
[15:40] <Flynsarmy> I mounted an NTFS drive under my username however when apps such as PHP try to modify files on it they get permission denied. how can i fix this?
[15:40] <sipior> alkisg_web: could you try adding the --super option? also, you're rsyncing to a clean directory with each of these tests, right?
[15:41] <gurulenin> hello
[15:41] <alkisg_web> sipior: to a clean directory, yes, and thanks, trying...
[15:43] <alkisg_web> sipior: nah, the same. I was wrong though; ALL the directories are created as owned by root, not just the hidden ones. The owner is only preserved for files, not for dirs.
[15:44] <sipior> alkisg_web: bizarre. i've never seen that before. what type of filesystem are you copying from/to?
[15:44] <deposito> Hi!   I need to make this work. http://pascalek.pers.pl/en/propage/samba4dosemu-introduction  Someone did it?
[15:44] <alkisg_web> sipior: ext3 to ext3
[15:45] <deposito> Hi!   I need to make this work. http://pascalek.pers.pl/en/propage/samba4dosemu-introduction  Someone did it?  In ubuntu 9.10 Sorry
[15:45] <alkisg_web> sipior: I think I had noticed that in previous Ubuntu versions, too (I'm currently using Lucid). Does this not happen for you?
[15:45] <sipior> alkisg_web: it does not, no
[15:45] <alkisg_web> Oh. :(
[15:45] <alkisg_web> sipior: sudo rsync -av --super source-dir dest-dir, right? I can't imagine what I'm doing wrong... :-/
[15:46] <sipior> alkisg_web: looks right to me.
[15:46] <kojo> help problems with permissions
[15:46] <Flynsarmy> I mounted an NTFS drive under my username however when apps such as PHP try to modify files on it they get permission denied. how can i fix this?
[15:46] <alkisg_web> Hmmm let me trying mounting the external disk manually, without udisk...
[15:47] <jbwiv> guys, I experience pretty regular system freezes. Hard freezes... magic sysrq won't even work. Turned off Compiz...the lockups happen much less frequently. Replaced video card, no dice. Replaced RAM, and it seemed to fix if for a few days, but after upgrading to Lucid, seems the lockups are back. Opened case, all fans are working properly. I'm not sure what to do at this point. Could it be the motherboard? Something with Linux itself?
[15:47] <sipior> alkisg_web: is the directory you're copying into owned by root?
[15:47] <m_anish> Hi I am looking to install an older version of metacity (pre-lucid) into lucid-beta-2. How do I go about doing it. I have downloaded the required packages that need to be installed.
[15:48] <alkisg_web> sipior: yes, e.g. /home/username, but not the subdirs, they're owned by the user.
[15:48] <geekphreak> m_anish: dont think thats a good idea
[15:48] <sipior> alkisg_web: so, /home/<username> is not owned by <username>?
[15:48] <alkisg_web> sipior: i.e. I'm trying to backup my "normal" home dir in an external disk. I'm logged on as another user while trying to do that.
[15:49] <alkisg_web> sipior: no, /home/username is owned by root (as usual?)
[15:49] <geekphreak> Flynsarmy: is rw option enabled for that partition?
[15:49] <sipior> alkisg_web: no, that's not :-)
[15:49] <Flynsarmy> geekphreak, yep
[15:49] <m_anish> geekphreak, I know, but i need to it
[15:49] <Flynsarmy> geekphreak, it's also things like php not being able to chmod
[15:50] <geekphreak> m_anish: its your system :)
[15:50] <sipior> alkisg_web: ls -ld /home/sipior :
[15:50] <sipior> alkisg_web: drwxr-xr-x 44 sipior sipior 4096 Apr 27 19:11 /home/sipior
[15:50] <vadi01_> how many more hours for ubuntu 10.04 to be out?
[15:51] <alkisg_web> sipior: sorry you're right, yes it's owned by the user :D
[15:51] <bazhang> vadi01_, not known
[15:51] <nmvictor> when videos on youtude are loaded into firefox such that one can replay instantly, is their a folder in which they are cached, so that one can just cd to the directory and copy the video?
[15:51] <bazhang> !party > vadi01_
[15:52] <geekphreak> bazhang: pm me that party message too :)
[15:52] <bazhang> geekphreak, /msg ubottu party  :)
[15:52] <SeismicMike> I have a coworker who's having trouble establishing a vpn connection using network-manager-vpnc.
[15:52] <m_anish> geekphreak, :) yes it is. So how to do it ... if I remove the installed packages first, it will remove a ton of another installed packages... Is there any way I can only remove the packages in question and not the dependencies etc.
[15:52] <geekphreak> thank you :)
[15:53] <sipior> alkisg_web: a real head-scratcher. you might try specifying all the switches explicitly, instead of using -a. but i'm not too optimistic...
[15:53] <SeismicMike> He said he can't access both web resources and vpn resources
[15:53] <FIQ> Hi, when my session restored (using KDE), Plasma never started. In Konsole, i get this message:
[15:53] <FIQ> QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2
[15:53] <alkisg_web> sipior: what puzzles me is that it works fine for you... which ubuntu version are you using?
[15:53] <FIQ> QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2
[15:53] <FloodBot3> FIQ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <FIQ> like 40 times
[15:53] <SeismicMike> I had him go to the routes setting and check the "Use this connection for only resources on its network", but that didn't seem to help
[15:53] <sipior> alkisg_web: 9.10. let me check again.
[15:54] <FIQ> ty
[15:54] <FIQ> QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2
[15:54] <FIQ> QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2
[15:54] <FloodBot3> FIQ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:54] <FIQ> er
[15:54] <sipior> alkisg_web: yep, works just fine.
[15:54] <FIQ> QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2
[15:55] <FIQ> QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 2
[15:55] <iPac> lol
[15:55] <Guest12220> valid
[15:55] <FIQ> ??
[15:55] <Guest12220> lol
[15:55] <Guest12220> nophin
[15:55] <FIQ> i never pasted that 3 times
[15:55] <FIQ> brb
[15:55] <Guest12220> random
[15:55] <alkisg_web> sipior: thanks a lot. I'll give it a lot of tries and I'll also try with the 9.10 live cd, and if I can't make it work I'll file bug.
[15:56] <geekphreak> m_anish: are you using synaptic?
[15:56] <sipior> alkisg_web: hang on a moment, i was using a different rsync (i have a gentoo prefix installed at the moment as well). let me try with the real ubuntu rsync.
[15:56] <m_anish> geekphreak, yes
[15:57] <Sqldump> who need Scanner SQl dumper new version with Get database
[15:57] <Sqldump> who need Scanner SQl dumper new version with Get database
[15:57] <Sqldump> who need Scanner SQl dumper new version with Get database
[15:57] <FloodBot3> Sqldump: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <geekphreak> m_anish: you can try using cli option like dkpg, but like i sid at your own risk, high chances are it might break system
[15:58] <sipior> alkisg_web: nope, works there as well. this is version 3.0.6, protocol version 30, fyi.
[15:58] <Guest12220> rampage
[15:58] <Guest12220> fyi
[15:58] <Guest12220> ubuntu
[15:59] <Guest12220> ?ASdSS
[15:59] <_pg_> I am logged into my computer over ssh. how do I get a login screen to come up so i can vnc in?
[15:59] <bazhang> Guest12220, do you have a support question?
[15:59] <nmobix> guys anyone can tell me how to figure out which module my ethernet card is using???
[15:59] <mickster04> _pg_: unless u have xforwarding i dunno if you can?
[15:59] <Guest12220> 0010010
[15:59] <_pg_> mickster04: can I do that over ssh?
[16:00] <bazhang> Guest12220, please take random chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <m_anish> geekphreak, thanks ... I'll know where to go if it does ;) ... The newer version of metacity breaks another package "sugar-emulator-0.88".. Will file a bug report for it soon
[16:00] <xro> hi, i have a dell 1743 laptop... nearly all works fine... I don't have sound... I have ubuntu 9.10 64bits... what can i do?
[16:00] <geekphreak> nmobix: dont quote me on this but try lsmod :d
[16:00] <mickster04> _pg_: i think u can set it up
[16:00] <mickster04> _pg_: i dunno how tho
[16:00] <nmobix> geekphreak, yea, but than How do i correlate
[16:00] <geekphreak> m_anish: good luck
[16:00] <nmobix> geekphreak, couse there are many modules :)
[16:01] <Vigo> !sound | xro
[16:01] <_pg_> I am logged into my computer over ssh. how do I get a login screen to come up so i can vnc in? I was told I need to set up xforwarding. Can someone advise me how to do this?
[16:02] <L-----D> _pg_, you mean X windows
[16:02] <_pg_> L-----D: I dont know what I mean, i just want to vnc in. lol
[16:02] <sipior> _pg_: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[16:02] <nmobix> any1 can tell me how to pinpoint which specific module is my ethernet  card using??
[16:03] <Full-Frugal> hi just wanting to know is this grub config corect
[16:03] <alkisg_web> sipior: weird, it also works for me in a test-case-directory that I created with 2 other dirs on it, but not with my home dir... Bah, this will need much debugging :) Thanks a lot man.
[16:03] <acicula> nmobix: dmesg
[16:03] <Full-Frugal> title Puppt Linux 431 full install in sdb2nroot (hd1,1) nkernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/devsdb2 pmedia=atahd nosmp
[16:03] <sipior> alkisg_web: no trouble, hope you sort it out.
[16:03] <acicula> nmobix: dmesg shows what devices are located and the drivers associated with it
[16:04] <_pg_> sipior: thanks! I will try there
[16:04] <acicula> sipior: probably mean /dev/sdb2
[16:05] <fenn> is there any way for me to trace a clearcase file to a build that includes it (or it'd decendant)
[16:05] <sipior> acicula: ?
[16:05] <acicula> err i meant Full-Frugal
[16:05] <fenn> sorry, wrong window
[16:05] <Bamboocha_david> hi friends
[16:06] <uLinux> hi
[16:06] <Pici> fenn: Good, because I had no idea what you were asking.
[16:06] <lalalol> Long live Ubuntu! :)
[16:06] <uLinux> :)
[16:06] <Bamboocha_david> !list
[16:07] <Nece228> is there any xorg.conf options which can speed up nvidia proprietary driver?
[16:07] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello ...is it possbible to install (x)ubuntu and Linux mint and let them use the same /home folder?
[16:07] <nmobix> acicula, after doing dmesg|grep eth0 i get the following => http://paste.ubuntu.com/424037/
[16:08] <geekphreak> Sachse_Siechtum: dont do that please :)
[16:08] <m_anish> geekphreak, thanks a lot ... worked like a charm
[16:08] <nmobix> acicula, which one of the two is the kernel module used?
[16:08] <geekphreak> m_anish: welcome
[16:08] <nmobix> acicula, btw eth0 is my ethernet dev
[16:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> geekphreak, why not? :-)
[16:08] <Bunbury> k ty for the help im out for now
[16:08] <archayl> Sachse_Siechtum: configuration may differ on those 2 distro
[16:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> archayl, I see .
[16:09] <geekphreak> Sachse_Siechtum: will cause problems mate
[16:09] <okidokia> Sachse_Siechtum> Some configuration files are present into your home directory
[16:09] <Pici> Sachse_Siechtum: You can definitely do that, but be wary that some dotfiles/configs may not be parsable in the versions that differ between releases.
[16:09] <archayl> Sachse_Siechtum: they'll override each others configuration
[16:10] <geekphreak> too much hassel if you ask me, taking a chance imho
[16:10] <geekphreak> i wont recommend it :)
[16:10] <okidokia> Sachse_Siechtum> it's technically possible to do what you asked, but not a pretty choice :)
[16:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> archayl, but maybe I can configure my picture/video/docs folders for both OS?
[16:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> or maybe 3 extra folders
[16:10] <archayl> Sachse_Siechtum: create other mount point for that and share them
[16:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[16:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> just tried the linux mint live cd and really liked it...
[16:11] <acicula> nmobix: type lsmod and see if theres a module with a similar name?
[16:11] <soicon> geekphreak: thk so much, it's exactly what you thought of, the profile is corrupted. And now, how could I get my profile be good again? (still keep my old email)
[16:11] <uLinux> !logs
[16:11] <archayl> Sachse_Siechtum: yeah, it's quite nice
[16:12] <jbwiv> guys, I experience pretty regular system freezes. Hard freezes... magic sysrq won't even work. Turned off Compiz...the lockups happen much less frequently. Replaced video card, no dice. Replaced RAM, and it seemed to fix if for a few days, but after upgrading to Lucid, seems the lockups are back. Opened case, all fans are working properly. I'm not sure what to do at this point. Could it be the motherboard? Something with Linux itself?
[16:12] <Piotr_> hi
[16:12] <geekphreak> soicon:  you can create a new profile >> i think /usb/bin/thunderbird -ProfileManager
[16:12] <acicula> jbwiv: what kind of computer
[16:12] <nmobix> acicula, via_rhine              22212  0
[16:12] <nmobix> mii                     5212  1 via_rhine
[16:12] <wokka> I have a strange problem here.  Somehow or another, I installed a version of fontconfig-config that is higher than the karmic version.  It was probably through the mozilla-dev repository (which I removed), but now, when I attempt to downgrade, I'm blocked:  Observe paste.
[16:12] <nmobix> this is lsmod
[16:12] <virus>  Will be the difference between RC and Final?
[16:12] <geekphreak> soicon: before you do that backup $HOME/.thunderbird :)
[16:13] <acicula> nmobix: looks like thats it then
[16:13] <wokka> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/QMn3jhMg
[16:13] <deposito> I have a problem. I remove dosemu but the conf file were still there. So before reinstall i did...   rm -r etc/dosemu and all were erased. Now i did sudo apt-get install dosemu and the program is installa but the conf files werent created. How can i fix this?
[16:13] <Limey_Packet> RC Still has bugs, final usually doesn't.
[16:13] <_pg_> ugh i give up: x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0, use sudo x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -display :0. fails
[16:13] <Piotr_> today I want to download  ubuntu 10.04, which 1 version should i download?  maybe daily-live ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[16:13] <_pg_> Piotr_: i dont think it matters. just update after you install and youll have latest
[16:13] <acicula> Piotr_: wait 24h to grab the final iso? otherwise rc is probably good
[16:14] <nmobix> acicula, u mean "mii" or "via_rhine"?
[16:14] <nmobix> acicula, sorry to bother you so much
[16:14] <acicula> nmobix: one is used by the other
[16:14] <acicula> nmobix: you need both modules
[16:14] <acicula> if you modprobe via_rhine it will probably autoload mii
[16:14] <Pici> !lucid | Piotr_
[16:14] <acicula> since via_rhine depends on mii
[16:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> archayl, yeah I think its the best linux for beginners because the menu is quite similar to vista
[16:14] <nmobix> acicula, so theoretically if i wanted to put my net card into the whitelist for suspend/hibernate, i'd have to put both of these modules in there???
[16:14] <Travis-42> Is there a way to configure the "places" menu so that it doesn't include certain drives automatically?
[16:15] <acicula> nmobix: well depends how they are loaded
[16:15] <Piotr_> ok thx for help
[16:15] <acicula> but you need both mods loaded
[16:15] <deposito> I have a problem. I remove dosemu but the conf file were still there. So before reinstall i did...   rm -r etc/dosemu and all were erased. Now i did sudo apt-get install dosemu and the program is installa but the conf files werent created. How can i fix this?
[16:15] <Seldaek> hmm, any idea why ubuntu10.4 doesn't include the kernel 2.6.33 that has TRIM support? I mean if 10.4 is LTS, you'd think TRIM is kinda important for the long term, but I don't know what's the kernel update policy in between ubuntu releases?
[16:15] <nmobix> acicula, care to elaborate a bit more on that?
[16:15] <Pici> Seldaek : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[16:15] <jbwiv> acicula, it's a home-built one
[16:15] <acicula> nmobix: insmod doesnt load the dependency
[16:16] <jbwiv> acicula, asus motherboard, dual quad core xeons, 12 gb ram
[16:16] <acicula> jbwiv: what kind of psu(brand model wattage) and what hardware
[16:16] <lalalol> !ot
[16:16] <acicula> nmobix: so if it uses insmod you need to load mii and then via_rhine, if you modprobe it autoloads the dependency
[16:16] <geekphreak> soicon: are you there , i got an idea :)
[16:17] <jbwiv> acicula, 500W OCZ ps, Asus Z8NA-D6 board
[16:17] <essial> Does anyone know the exact UTC time that 10.04 is going to be released tomorrow?
[16:17] <acicula> jbwiv: what gpu?
[16:17] <soicon> geekphreak: yes, iam here
[16:17] <essial> er GMT
[16:17] <jbwiv> acicula, we built 12 of them, all running ubuntu. As far as I know, I'm the only one experiening lockups
[16:17] <nmobix> acicula, how do i check which way it loads?
[16:17] <acicula> nmobix: i dont know that
[16:17] <jbwiv> acicula, GeForce 9800 GT
[16:17] <acicula> just try listing both mods
[16:17] <geekphreak> soicon:  there is 1 more thing you can do, on current install install add on to backup emails >> , when new profile is created you can import them back :) . i think theres a addon for it :)
[16:18] <jbwiv> acicula, the only difference between mine and the others is that I have a Netgear WG311T wireless adapter installed
[16:18] <acicula> jbwiv: well its not an exceptionally heavy psu for that config but it should be enough
[16:19] <jbwiv> acicula, would you think a bad motherboard is a possibility?
[16:19] <jbwiv> acicula, for what it's worth, it's much more stable with Compiz disabled for some reason
[16:19] <acicula> its possible yeh
[16:19] <soicon> geekphreak: oh yes, I'll do as you say,  thank you geekphreak!
[16:19] <essial> jbwiv: try scanning with the ultimate boot cd
[16:19] <jbwiv> acicula, which is why I tried replacing the Gfx card, but the problem persisted
[16:19] <essial> testing memory, hardive, and maybe a cpu burnin test
[16:19] <jbwiv> essial, scanning what exactly?
[16:19] <erkan^> 24.00 essial
[16:19] <erkan^> clock
[16:19] <erkan^> (:
[16:20] <essial> ?
[16:20] <jbwiv> essial, I have tested the ram with memtest86, everything looked good
[16:20] <jbwiv> I've also used cpuburn to burn the cpus, nothing out of the ordinary
[16:20] <essial> are all the components new?
[16:20] <acicula> jbwiv: if you load it heavily without a gui can you make it crash?
[16:20] <jbwiv> essial, yes, all components are new
[16:20] <acicula> jbwiv: if it has an igp can you try using that and remove the gpu/wireless
[16:20] <jbwiv> acicula, I haven't tried that. igp?
[16:20] <essial> when it hard locks do you check the cpu temp?
[16:20] <acicula> jbwiv: integrated graphics card on the motherboard
[16:20] <soreau> jbwiv: Does it happen on a live cd?
[16:20] <essial> I've seen CPUs with improper amounts of thermal paste do that
[16:21] <jbwiv> essial, no, lmsensors doesn't support my board
[16:21] <essial> (too much or too little)
[16:21] <essial> Not even in BIOS?
[16:21] <jbwiv> soreau, I haven't seen it happen, can't guarantee tho
[16:21] <acicula> that seems odd for a dual cpu board
[16:21] <mickster04> is it possible to safely install ubuntu desktop ontp of ubuntu server?
[16:21] <essial> Maybe physically touch it then and see if it's excessively hot
[16:21] <jbwiv> essial, I will check it next time in the bios
[16:21] <enseven> Hi all! Is there a samba package for ubuntu with ctdb support?
[16:21] <soreau> jbwiv: If it doesn't happen in a live session, it's likely a reinstall will fix it
[16:21] <Genk1> Hello
[16:21] <jbwiv> soreau, I've tried two re-installs ;-)
[16:21] <deposito> I have a problem. I remove dosemu but the conf file were still there. So before reinstall i did...   rm -r etc/dosemu and all were erased. Now i did sudo apt-get install dosemu and the program is installa but the conf files werent created. How can i fix this?
[16:21] <ninjai> has anyone here ever used foremost to recover lost data?
[16:21] <soreau> ! samba | enseven
[16:22] <essial> cpu heat will lock a system quick
[16:22] <jbwiv> acicula, seems odd that lmsensors doesn't support it? yes, I was sad
[16:22] <essial> the only other thing is to unplug all uneeded periphials
[16:22] <Vigo> Travis-42: Did or are you using AutoFS?
[16:22] <slow-motion> hi
[16:22] <essial> and pci cards and usb devices and such
[16:22] <jbwiv> can anyone recommend a good way to read cpu temps without lm-sensors?
[16:22] <soreau> jbwiv: Maybe it's getting hot and failing? or some hw component is going out
[16:22] <essial> rule out as much as possible
[16:22] <essial> ALSO a bad power supply can do it you know
[16:22] <Genk1> can I setup in in series two different bridge with 2 ethernet card in each one ?
[16:22] <essial> you could try connecting a power uspply from one of the known good machines
[16:23] <jbwiv> essial, didn't realize that. I'll have to try that. first, i need to make it repeatable reliably
[16:23] <essial> power supplies are REALLY important, never buy cheap ones :)
[16:23] <jbwiv> is there a program out there that will load cpu and gpu at the same time?
[16:23] <essial> jbwiv: vista
[16:23] <jbwiv> essial, this wasn't a cheapy. Supposedly very good
[16:23] <jbwiv> essial, lol
[16:23] <essial> ;)
[16:23] <Travis-42> Vigo: no, not using autofs (at least, not on purpose). There are just a couple of "system" drives (e.g. for backup) that I don't really want to take up places space in the dialogs
[16:24] <Vigo> Travis-42: This may help:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[16:24] <essial> jbwiv: also are all 12 machines the same specs?
[16:24] <Travis-42> Vigo: ok thanks, I'll read about it
[16:24] <essial> (same parts)
[16:24] <wokka> I have a strange problem here.  Somehow or another, I installed a version of fontconfig-config that is higher than the karmic version.  It was probably through the mozilla-dev repository (which I removed), but now, when I attempt to downgrade, it wants to remove my entire system: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/QMn3jhMg
[16:24] <essial> you have to be very careful ordering ram when you get a motherboard
[16:24] <hashed_> mickster04:  you can install a GUI on top of Ubuntu server, but it think it would slow it down significantly.
[16:25] <jbwiv> essial, yes, exactly the same specs, except for the wireless card
[16:25] <hashed_> mickster04: here's something on that for 9.04:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-gui-in-ubuntu-server.html
[16:25] <essial> jbwiv: then my guess, in order is: CPU getting too hot, power supply, bad motherboard
[16:25] <mickster04> hashed_: would it be better to installdesktop and add apache etc to it?
[16:25] <sporedi> how to i check all process running at the time
[16:25] <jbwiv> essial, ok, I'll try to figure out a way to read the cpu temps
[16:25] <jbwiv> essial, thx
[16:25] <essial> np
[16:25] <essial> (i run a computer repair shop :p)
[16:26] <essial> Man I guess I'm going to bed early tonight, I want to grab 10.04 the SECOND it comes out
[16:26] <geekphreak> sporedi: top?
[16:26] <Vigo> Travis-42: It could also be an fstab configuration, :> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[16:27] <hashed_> mickster04:  it depends on how you use it.  If you are planning to have a general-use desktop with a Lamp server, I would suggest using Desktop and adding the Lamp components in.
[16:27] <sporedi> sorry i mean all files and deamns
[16:27] <sporedi> deamons
[16:28] <essial> mickster04: I installed ubuntu server on my proliant, then added gnome package on top
[16:28] <essial> but only because i run gnome in vnc sessions
[16:28] <essial> the actual physical monitor is text :p
[16:28] <hashed_> I am very happy with the Server edition myself, but I use it as a production server.
[16:28] <reind> I'm trying to backup a large HD to a USB drive using NTFS-3G. Most of the files have copied over, but now when I try to perform a new write op I get "Operation not supported". Tried a couple of different boxes with the same result. Any ideas?
[16:28] <essial> dirty fs?
[16:28] <essial> scandisk :D
[16:29] <essial> what does syslog say when it is mounted
[16:29] <vi> hi all)
[16:29] <vi> and when an update will be 10.4?
[16:29] <lkjh> hi all i got a little probleme on my pc
[16:29] <lkjh> there is no sound on my system
[16:29] <benkevan> oh noes.. tomorrows is 10.04 rewease.. ohs noes
[16:29] <lkjh> how to solve it ?
[16:29] <soreau> reind: What operation isn't supported? ntfs doesn't support some features that ext file systems do so this warning can be ignored in most cases
[16:29] <h00k> ubottu: tell lkjh about sound
[16:29] <GodricBrutus> Anybody here find it weird that the menu items and what not, in openoffice.org are all bold? http://uppix.net/d/4/6/3baf49a46abb659628c9587211abb.png ? anything i can do about that?
[16:30] <reind> soreau: mkdir, cp, any write op
[16:30] <hashed_> GodricBrutus: MS Office and wine?  hehe, j/k
[16:30] <zen933k> lkjh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[16:30] <vi> thank you
[16:30] <soreau> reind: Do the operations still succeed despite the message?
[16:30] <GodricBrutus> hashed_, nah, openoffice is fine for me. minor annoyance
[16:31] <h00k> GodricBrutus: your screenshot had nothing to do with your question and is not appropriate for this channel.
[16:31] <hashed_> I still use MS Office just because I can't stand OpenOffice :\
[16:32] <xro> Vigo, i tried the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting but it still doesn't work...  the input works but not the output...  can u give me some hints?
[16:32] <deposito> How could i do a clean installation of dosemu?
[16:32] <reind> soreau: they don't succeed. Here's syslog's output: http://pastebin.com/jF2miaxS
[16:32] <sXs-> hi guys! can npviewer.bin segfault crash Xserver? (sometimes appears black screen and system does not respond at all)
[16:33] <necrogami> I've got a box running Karmic (and when i try to do apt-get install php5-cli or php5-cgi i get this error) php5-cli: Depends php-common (=5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6) but 5.2.10.dsfg.1-2ubuntu6.4 is to be installed
[16:33] <necrogami> how can i solve this issue?
[16:34] <stodorovic> is there a way to see what file or version of kernel module is contained inside a specific package before installing?
[16:34] <Vigo> xro: Looking now,,,
[16:34] <alkisg_web> sipior: hehe it turns out that the problem with rsync was... that I didn't wait long enough :) I was copying 100 Gb, and I was looking at the dirs owner while it was still copying. So I guess it set the owner at a later point, because now that it's finished everything is ok :)
[16:34] <webBuilder> #join /jav
[16:35] <mark1> does anyone know how i can change the permissions of a ntfs folder ?
[16:35] <comentator> hey can someone tell me how i can restore the permissions in /var
[16:35] <sXs-> stodorovic, read installation notes before installation
[16:35] <soreau> reind: Not sure. how are you mounting it?
[16:35] <reind> ntfs-3g /dev/sdX1 /media/usb (sometimes with -o force)
[16:35] <ricklerre> Hey guys, for the last two weeks or so I've been able to get no response at all from keyserver.ubuntu.com, it keeps bringing up warnings on my system.  I can ping it no problem.  anybody have any idea what's causing this or how to fix it?
[16:36] <sXs-> hi guys! can npviewer.bin segfault crash Xserver? (sometimes appears black screen and system does not respond at all)
[16:36] <reind> soreau: I can write to it fine in Windows btw
[16:36] <stodorovic> sXs-: yes npviewer probably can segfault X. it's that Flash stuff, yes>?
[16:36] <soreau> reind: maybe you need to run some file system check
[16:37] <stodorovic> sXs-: not sure how to get release notes with apt-get.... surely it wont have a file list....
[16:37] <Vigo> xro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043568&highlight=sound+dell+laptop <:> maybe that one will help.
[16:37] <h00k> stodorovic,sXs-:I really don't think it can crash x.
[16:37] <sXs-> stodorovic: yes, I recognized that X crashesh when in Firefox is opened pages with flash
[16:37] <reind> soreau: I'm thinking of just formatting it as ext3 and being done with it =)
[16:38] <stodorovic> h00k: well.. I have had Firefox crash X. And I;ve also had my own Qt application crash X (there was a bug in Xorg)
[16:38] <vi> by what program it is possible to connect PDA&
[16:38] <xro> Vigo, i get a blank page...
[16:38] <sXs-> h00k: check the first line in log http://paste.ubuntu.com/423960/ after that X crashed
[16:38] <h00k> stodorovic: okay :)
[16:38] <necrogami> I've got a box running Karmic (and when i try to do apt-get install php5-cli or php5-cgi i get this error) php5-cli: Depends php-common (=5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6) but 5.2.10.dsfg.1-2ubuntu6.4 is to be installed How can i solve this issue?
[16:39] <Vigo> xro: One moment....
[16:39] <stodorovic> Xorg seems pretty buggy :( I should devote my free time to fix bugs there (since I am a C/C++ coder)
[16:39] <thiemster> necrogami: try running "sudo apt-get install php5-cli php-common"
, <stodorovic> but is this bux fixable?
[16:39] <h00k> sXs-: it says npviewr.bin crashed itself, but doesn't necessarily say it crashed x
[16:39] <thiemster> necrogami: because sometimes when you run both at once it works. at least for me
[16:39] <Vigo> xro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043568&highlight=sound+dell+laptop
[16:40] <necrogami> thiemster: php5-common is already the newest
[16:40] <h00k> sXs-: the next few lines happened seconds later and says a problem with dmraid
[16:40] <thiemster> necrogami: oh, I thought it just wasn't installed yet and they depended upon each other. not really sure how to help then. sorry
[16:40] <Vigo> xro: That one is from 2009, is it applicable to your machine?
[16:40] <mathias_> Hi. Anyone who is into Clonezilla server edition? I have some issues with mine. When I start the server, and choose whether I want to save or restore image, the clients ARE able to PXE-boot, but during the initial phase, they come up with a "Let the original init take place" error. I have re-run CloneZilla configuration and downloaded a few missing packs related to Clonezilla, but that work either. Any ideas?
[16:41] <necrogami> thiemster: the box has modphp installed for apache .. (i didn't install it now i need php5-cli)
[16:41] <xro> Vigo, i'll try it
 nevermind, it is running w/o problems.
[16:41] <thiemster> necrogami: you could download the packages from packages.ubuntu.com and install them and all of their dependencies with dpkg
[16:41] <vi> whether you play in AION on UBUNTU? pleas
[16:42] <xro> Vigo, i'll reboot... thanks for your help
[16:42] <stodorovic> hmm so many people /joining and /parting here....
[16:42] <bazhang> stodorovic, which irc client
[16:43] <abhinav> does anybody have any ideas for the release party?
 but anyway every time my Ubuntu 9.10 crashes I see in log "npviewer.bin segfault" as last line before system reboot
[16:43] <bazhang> !party > abhinav
[16:43] <stodorovic> bazhang: irssi :)
[16:44] <bazhang> !quietirssi | stodorovic
[16:44] <jepes28> hi, I have an 8400 GS and nonfree driver installed, suddenly I have low resolution (640x480), already tried reinstalling NVIDIA driver but it didnt work (work around had work before). any suggestions?
[16:46] <stodorovic> bazhang: thanks. I wasnt complaining. just commenting on the high activity in this channel
[16:46] <bazhang> stodorovic, okay :)
[16:47] <nefast> Helllo everyone.
[16:47] <zen933k> How do I quiet xchat?
[16:47] <necrogami> thiemster: fixed it ... karmic-security repository wasn't in sources.list
[16:47] <nefast> I have this iso [ubuntu-10.04-rc-desktop-i386.iso] at the moment and I only have one cd left.
[16:47] <geekphreak> zen933k:  /quit i think
[16:48] <zen933k> geekphreak: Thanks :P
[16:48] <nefast> Should I download a newer iso, or just burn this one?
[16:48] <geekphreak> :p
 just wait for 1 day
[16:48] <geekphreak> nefast: i would wait for few days , stable version coming out soon
[16:48] <nefast> Ah.
[16:48] <geekphreak> nefast:  got a pen drive?
[16:48] <nefast> But that requires patience.
it looks like it will come tomorrow
[16:49] <nefast> geekphreak: Ah, yes. I am typing this from a permanent USB install
[16:49] <nefast> But that, alas, is my only drive.
[16:49] <CaptainTrek> nefast: the stable version of 10.04 is released tomorrow.  You can stick 10.04's ISO onto a USB drive (2GB should work), you can get one for around $12 USD
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> i can't wait until tomorrow
[16:49]  * SolarisBoy wiggling
[16:49] <geekphreak> nefast:  ok :)
[16:49] <Pici> !party > SolarisBoy
[16:49] <Promit> i'm having some trouble with the ubuntu netbook remix, it's not cooperating with a logitech cordless desktop set
[16:50] <Promit> it sees the receiver during boot as mouse and keyboard but nothing works
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> what do you keep that on standby?
[16:50] <SingAlong> hi all
[16:51] <SingAlong> I got this error when I connected a Haier CE100 wireless usb modem "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 32: mount: special device /dev/sr0 does not exist". Any way to solve this problem?
[16:51] <nefast> Happy-happy-joy-joy
[16:51] <nefast> I might have another pendrive laying around
[16:51] <zen933k> SingAlong: needs Drivers?
[16:52] <cameron_linux> yay! i got mIRC on ubuntu :D
[16:52] <cameron_linux> wine ftw!
[16:52] <geekphreak> nefast: will pm you my postal address ;)
[16:52] <geekphreak> nefast: just kidding :d
[16:53] <thiemster> cameron_linux but there are so many good linux IRC clients! like xchat
[16:53] <nefast> geekphreak: I have to find it first. Which might be a problem :p
[16:53] <geekphreak> nefast: well then do, whatcha waiting for boy :p
[16:54] <geekphreak> :)
[16:54] <fanani> lets ubuntu release party
[16:54] <Pici> !party
[16:54] <fanani> 1 hour ago ubuntu releasae
[16:55] <fanani> i like u
[16:55] <fanani> ubuntu
[16:55] <fanani> :D
[16:55] <FloodBot3> fanani: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <Pedrolito> I have installed a beta of 10.04 last week.  If I keep upgrading, will I have the same version as the final version, or will I need to install the full version when it's out?
[16:55] <bazhang> Pedrolito, yes
[16:55] <nefast> Updating should be fine.
[16:55] <bazhang> just keep updating
[16:56] <nefast> You can never go wrong with a clean install, though
[16:56] <Pedrolito> ok, thanks
[16:56] <Pedrolito> that new version is fantastic by the way
[16:56] <Maxtor_111> hi
[16:56] <tarzeau> really?
[16:57] <tarzeau> i hate the window control buttons left, and the scrollbar right
[16:57] <tarzeau> they belong together at whatever place, left or right, i don't care, but together
[16:57] <Or1on> How can I use vim-gnome with gnomes clipboard
[16:57] <Pedrolito> you'll get used to it I supposed
[16:57] <tarzeau> Pedrolito: no way, i'll reconfigure it for myself
[16:57] <Pedrolito> I mean "I suppose"
[16:57] <Pedrolito> it felt weird the first 2 days, but I'm fine with it now
[16:58] <Pici> !party
[16:58] <tarzeau> Pedrolito: the point is the scrollbar should be left too, if the controls are
[16:58] <Pici> tarzeau, Pedrolito: This channel is still for support, can we move this to #ubuntu-release-partyy ?
[16:58] <tarzeau> Pedrolito: it's a nextstep thing, the thing that apple/mac os x bought
[16:58] <Pici> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:58] <Pedrolito> Pici, ok sure
[16:59] <SingAlong> doing wvdialconf doesnt detect my Haier CE100 wireless modem
[17:04] <eBryggis> ringer: Thanks, forgot about that. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/MswNR1ah - Here is the error I am receiving running /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[17:04] <handjob> Hi. How can i check the read / write speed of my usb disk (from command line)?
[17:04] <EdgEy> Does anyone know if there is some sort of hardware accelerated media player for ATi cards ?
[17:05] <EdgEy> I get choppy playback in high action scenes if I play 1080p bluray or x264 videos
[17:05] <EdgEy> using VLC now
[17:05] <meowbuntu> hi how can i check hdd infomation in terminal
[17:05] <fanani> hi all , nice to meet u
[17:05] <fanani> i'm a new user of ubuntu
[17:05] <handjob> meowbuntu, lshw i assume
[17:05] <BedMan> fanani: good for you :-)
[17:06] <_blackwater_> edgey vlc has capabilities to enlist hardware acceleration of your ati card if the driver allows it.
[17:06] <Maxtor_111> can anyone help ! how to send mail through command line interface..(ubuntu 9.10)
[17:06] <mickster04> Maxtor_111: does sendmail work :P
[17:06] <BedMan> Maxtor_111: mailx -s "subject here" < file
[17:07] <handjob> meowbuntu, but if you want things like free space then "df".
[17:07] <meowbuntu> handjob, no i want stuff like /dev/sda etc
[17:07] <EdgEy> _blackwater_ is there something I have to enable?
[17:07] <meowbuntu> fdisk -l gace nothing but i have 2 hdd
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> fdisk
[17:08] <handjob> meowbuntu, sudo blkid.
[17:08] <EdgEy> I have a decent system, HD4950 1GB, Q6600, 6gb ram, and still getting blocky/choppy playback whenever there's high action
[17:08] <Pici> meowbuntu: you need to use sudo with that command.
[17:08] <EdgEy> Like fast panning or an explosion in 1080p movies
[17:08] <geekphreak> meowbuntu: hdparm??
[17:08] <handjob> Maxtor_111, there are mail clients like alpine - they are text based,but ther ARE more leet ways of doing this.
[17:09] <geekphreak> meowbuntu: what are you actually trying to find?
[17:09] <fehrp> hi all
[17:09] <fehrp> if I have a configure file called configure.ac and not configure as usual, how do I install that thing?
[17:09] <handjob> How to check usb disk r/w speed in terminal?
[17:10] <blackxored> hi guys, I was wondering, some time back in time I did, hpow do you manage to connect a user to your shell with only view access while you're typing commands on it???
[17:10] <geekphreak> handjob:  you wana see the speed at file  is transfering to it?
[17:10] <meowbuntu> geekphreak, i found it i am trying to do somethig but i need a break so see you all next time
[17:10] <meowbuntu> by everyone
[17:10] <jdsampayo> hello
[17:10] <handjob> geekphreak, Yes.
[17:11] <_blackwater_> edgey by default vlc should provide accelerated streams but the device driver has everything to do in how that works.
[17:11] <geekphreak> handjob:  this is not exactly what ya looking for , but you can try mc, when you copy with it, it shows speed :d
[17:11] <brad[]> Hi folks. Anyone here using preload?
[17:11] <Maxtor_111> handjob : i have installed alpine, but getting error, while send mail.
[17:11] <fehrp> How do I install a package that comes with a "configure.ac" file instead of a "configure" file? I thought autoconf, but that only gives me errors about undefined macros
[17:12] <jjr> hello
[17:12] <kongove> when can I get 10.04? tomorrow ?
[17:12] <blackxored> anyone?
[17:12] <EdgEy> _blackwater_, hmm, do you know if there is any multi-threaded h.264 codec I can get somewhere maybe then? I don't think I even need hardware accel, just it's only using one core anyway
[17:12] <jjr> I can't make my printer work :(
[17:12] <handjob> Maxtor_111, Most of text based email clients are hard to setup. Try mutt maybe.
[17:12] <Pici> !isitout > kongove
[17:12] <sipior> fehrp: does autoreconf work for you?
[17:12] <Maxtor_111> handjob : i will give a try...
[17:12] <jjr> I've an Epson EPL 5700 laser printer and Ubuntu doesn't seem to like her
[17:13] <jjr> (ubuntu karmic)
[17:13] <jjr> I've looked on google but didn't find any satisfying help
[17:13] <geekphreak> handjob:  there is 1 more thing you can do :d
[17:13] <_blackwater_> edgey i'm not convinced that the performance is delimited within the player or video processor.  which driver are you using for your ati card?
[17:13] <handjob> geekphreak, Yes?
[17:14] <jjr> Anyone kindly disposed to try to help me?
[17:14] <geekphreak> handjob: date +%T ; mv /somefile /someplace ; date +%T >> then do that maths :d
[17:14] <fehrp> has anyone in here used adesklets successfully?
[17:15] <handjob> geekphreak, Haha good one. Not very elegant but gets the job done. <3
[17:15] <EdgEy> _blackwater_, I'm not sure, do I need to install proprietary drivers seperately?
[17:15] <today> what time does Ubuntu Lucid Release?
[17:15] <CaptainTrek> jjr: not all printers have drivers, did you try Epson's website, or just try plugging the thing into the syste,?
[17:15] <CaptainTrek> !lucid
[17:15] <geekphreak> handjob:  ;)
[17:15] <Maxtor_111> handjob : installed mutt (error : sendmail: account default not found: no configuration file)
[17:15] <_blackwater_> you absolutely must install the factory provided drivers, the xorg drivers are c**p
[17:16] <jjr> CaptainTrek, it's plugged. I didn't find drivers on Epson's site (there were some for the 5700L but not for the 5700)
[17:16] <today> thanks CaptainTrek, i want to know what GMT time?
[17:16] <CaptainTrek> today: go to #ubuntu-release-party and READ THE TOPIC, it says all
[17:17] <handjob> Maxtor_111, It's not just sudo apt-get intall You have to read A LOT to setup these type of client corectly. You are entering the world of pain. Belive me i used alpine and mutt some time ago and came back to tb.
[17:17] <today> thanks a lot
[17:18] <mr_pinc> Anyone know the difference between http://mediatemple.net/webhosting/ve/ and http://mediatemple.net/webhosting/dv/?
[17:18] <_blackwater_> edgey what is the first line output of   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep GLX   (all case sens)
[17:18] <Maxtor_111> handjob : i think its worth it..keeping on trying.
[17:20] <stodorovic> Hi. Custom-compiled vanilla kernel without initrd/initramfs on Ubuntu - possible or not?
[17:20] <EdgEy> _blackwater_, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/J88FiSah
[17:20] <iMaTh> hi all
[17:20] <damogar> hello. How can I change the name of a menu entry in grub2?
[17:20] <CaptainTrek> !hi | iMaTh
[17:20] <handjob> Maxtor_111, I bet it is. Once You figure it out You can make a lot of things regular e mail clients won't do. I am too lazy for this. Good luck.
[17:20] <stodorovic> Last time I tried (a few years ago), it broke bits of usplash and other udev things, but could still boot.
[17:20] <iMaTh> damogar, not in menu.lst ?
[17:20] <acicula> stodorovic: you can do without initrd, but why would you want to
[17:21] <stodorovic> bazhang: what was that irssi ignore command again? :)
[17:21] <acicula> its there to provide amienity's during the boot process
[17:21] <geekphreak> !grub2 > damogar
[17:21] <damogar> iMaTh: grub 2
[17:21] <iMaTh> damogar, ho, sorry :s
[17:21] <stodorovic> acicula: well to get rid of all that annoying crap that gets put in initrd's :) I like my kernels self-compiled. I know my hardware dammit :)
[17:21] <outoftime> is there something along the lines of `source` that also echoes the commands themselves to stdout?
[17:21] <wolter> can I make nautilus opaque again?
[17:22] <stodorovic> it's partly to test if I can do a kernel update on a 8.10 box
[17:22] <acicula> stodorovic: well it will cause more work then whatever aggrevation it saves, and it wont make your computer go faster
[17:22] <damogar> ubottu: ok, but I still don't know how to change it
[17:22] <cbovard> If I install a package for php (sudo apt-get install php5-xmlrpc) will this mess up my current php install?
[17:22] <_blackwater_> edgey eww yeah go get the proprietary driver.
[17:23] <EdgEy> _blackwater_, I assumed so, thanks
[17:23] <iceroot> cbovard: no
[17:23] <acicula> cbovard: its an addon package for php5
[17:23] <geekphreak> damogar: you trying to make windows default?
[17:23] <damogar> geekphreak: that was for you xD
[17:23] <stodorovic> acicula: it might be very marginally faster. but that's not why I want to do that
[17:23] <damogar> geekphreak: No, i'm trying to change the name and seems that is an automated process
[17:23] <acicula> stodorovic: just apt-get install <kernel-image> will update the kernel
[17:23] <cbovard> thank you very much!
[17:24] <geekphreak> name of what damogar?
[17:24] <damogar> geekphreak: 10_linux use the output of lsb_release -i -s
[17:24] <damogar> geekphreak: the entry name
[17:24] <geekphreak> damogar: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:24] <damogar> geekphreak: its not editable
[17:25] <stodorovic> acicula: no it won't :] The latest is linux-image-2.6.27-17-generic and I *need* 2.6.29 at least. I might even have to try different versions and perhaps git-bisect kernel sources till I get the wifi working.
[17:26] <marshall> does anybody know where i could get an SVG of the new logo/
[17:26] <marshall> ?
[17:26] <iMaTh> damogar, use vi and you save with :wq!
[17:26] <marshall> iMaTh: why the '!'?
[17:26] <damogar> iMaTh but if I use update-grub2 that entry is replaced
[17:27] <iMaTh> damogar, exactly
[17:27] <iMaTh> marshall, use the ! to force to write and save
[17:27] <cobra-the-joker> today is the big day ...isnt it ?
[17:27] <iMaTh> marshall, use the ! to force to write and quit, sorry
[17:27] <marshall> when would you need to use force?
[17:28] <iMaTh> marshall, when damogar edit the file grub.cfg
[17:29] <geekphreak> damogar: when working with grub files, always make a backup
[17:29] <iMaTh> geekphreak, good idea
[17:29] <sinux> cobra-the-joker, y do you say 2 day is the big day?
[17:30] <cobra-the-joker> sinux , change is coming ^_^
[17:30] <linda__> am downloading the latest ubuntu
[17:30] <sinux> oh you mean the 10.04
[17:30] <cobra-the-joker> :D ..yep
[17:30] <sinux> yes I'm waiting for it
[17:30] <linda__> but it is rc
[17:30] <linda__> what does it mean
[17:30] <coffeez> how to suppress those joining and disconnecting message?
[17:31] <sinux> I'm still waiting without sleeping
[17:31] <sinux> to get my hands on it
[17:31] <geekphreak> coffeez:  which client?
[17:31] <iMaTh> sinux, you are very mad :D
[17:31] <cobra-the-joker> linda__ , the final released it going to be released
[17:31] <linda__> what does rc mean ?
[17:31] <coffeez> i'm new to xchat-gnome
[17:31] <cobra-the-joker> linuda__ , today !!
[17:31] <iMaTh> coffeez, so, welcome :D
[17:31] <sinux> geekphreak, yes I know
[17:31] <coffeez> thnx
[17:32] <sinux> I'm absolutely mad about the change
[17:32] <geekphreak> coffeez:  in xchat there is an option , i think right click freenode, you will see it
[17:32] <sinux> hi coffeez
[17:32] <minux> exit
[17:32] <iMaTh> sinux, do you think that the new release was very different ?
[17:32] <coffeez> geekphreak: cool, thx
[17:33] <aatifh> I have upgraded my machine from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 a day before yesterday. Seems like modem manager doesn't work.
[17:33] <geekphreak> coffeez: welcome
[17:33] <coffeez> hi sinux
[17:33] <cobra-the-joker> iMaTh , its LTS
[17:33] <aatifh> Have anybody faced the similar problem?
[17:33] <iMaTh> cobra-the-joker, for ubuntu server too ?
[17:33] <uLinux> When I delete a file from my pendrive (NTFS) a .trash file is created. Why?
[17:33] <BedMan> linda__: rc means release candidate
[17:33] <cobra-the-joker> iMaTh , i dont know ...but i think yes
[17:33] <geekphreak> uLinux: temp. location for file
[17:34] <coffeez> interesting, xchat crashed..
[17:34] <cobra-the-joker> they are moving in parralel ...right ?
[17:34] <linda__> so it can pass for main release too
[17:34] <sinux> iMaTh, Well I did'nt followed from the betas but I think it'll be good release
[17:34] <iMaTh> cobra-the-joker, if so, then it's a good news
[17:34] <iMaTh> sinux, ok
[17:34] <cobra-the-joker> but i consider myself ubuntu as a desktop OS
[17:35] <geekphreak> coffeez:  crashed?
[17:35] <coffeez> geez... again
[17:35] <iMaTh> tommorow, i get ubuntu server 10.4 for a school projet
[17:35] <geekphreak> coffeez:  get pidgin :d
[17:35] <sinux> Yes I've used so many but from the bigging ubuntu was the best for me
[17:36] <iMaTh> i must use a real time OS, and i think that ubuntu server with real time patch it's a nice choice
[17:36] <jjr> hey guys I need to knpow the uri of one of my parallel ports, how can I do that?
[17:36]  * stodorovic wonders if 10.04 will be released with the x leak...
[17:36] <iMaTh> what do you think ?
[17:36] <sinux> It has every thing from the newbie to the IT geek
[17:36] <sinux> iMaTh, Yes I do agree with you
[17:37] <iMaTh> sinux, thx :)
[17:37] <sinux> I use ubuntu server as my gateway
[17:37] <cobra-the-joker> i liked fedora at first ...the only distro that i got my ADSL USB Modem working
[17:37] <linda__> it even supports ipod out of the box
[17:37] <cobra-the-joker> but when i got the ethernet ..i gave 8.04 a shot
[17:37] <sinux> no one in my company managed to crack it yet :-)
[17:37] <coffeez> geekphreak: how to speak to a person? I have to type in your nickname to do that?
[17:37] <cobra-the-joker> still fedora is my best personal prefrence
[17:37] <Guest35290> eww
[17:38] <geekphreak> coffeez:  type geek , press tab , first few letters then tab :d
[17:38] <cobra-the-joker> Guest35290 , eww ti fedora ?
[17:38] <Guest35290> yeah
[17:38] <cobra-the-joker> to *
[17:38] <iMaTh> sinux, there 3 years, i didn't use ubuntu server, it's was psychologic, but when i trying it ...^^
[17:38] <cobra-the-joker> well ..every thing just work with me in fedora ...thats all
[17:38] <coffeez> geekphreak: ok, got it. tnx
[17:38] <sinux> cobra-the-joker, it seems like you're kind of bleeding edge person to like fedora
[17:38] <geekphreak> coffeez:  welcome
[17:39] <cobra-the-joker> someHow ...i like a featurefull distro
[17:39] <sinux> iMaTh, server version is very stable and easy to handle don't worry we're here to help if any thing goes wrong
[17:39] <Maxtor_111> anyone using mutt or configured...please help me to do. it.
[17:39] <greggomano> is it me, or does gnome-commander not have tabs?
[17:40] <mslovette> GOd morning to all... I have an issue with a USB HDD and an internal ide-scsi raid cluster... it appears that, on boot and if the usb drive is lect powered up (with no fstab entry), it snatches the /dev assignment and then mounts to the wrong point... any thoughts?
[17:40] <sinux> grggomano, you mean to say the terminal right
[17:41] <dunas> I can't find the 'add computer to account' option in Ubuntu One, either on the webpage or in the client, running 10.04 nightly from last night. Any advice? The installation instructions don't tell me where the option should be.
[17:41] <greggomano> sinux: no, gnome commander - file manager. Krusader has tab possibilites if i need more than just 2 folders open...
[17:41] <iMaTh> sinux, i think, it boot so fast :D
[17:41] <greggomano> but krusader's too bloated for my taste/needs
[17:41] <bens> i've got serious memory/swap issues with Ubuntu since 9.10.  I have 4GB ram (3.2GB free, 3.2GB cache/buffer) and 4GB swap (0M free) .  According to everything I check, the memory is not in use.
[17:42] <sinux> greggomano, ah
[17:42] <bens> Why is the kernel swapping if no applications are using memory?
[17:42] <sinux> iMaTh, the booting speed improvement one of canonicals goals
[17:42] <iMaTh> bens, your swap was empty ?
[17:43] <iMaTh> sinux, good :)
[17:43] <bushbaby> I'm running apache on my ubuntu server and accessing localhost or the ip from the server is fine, however, when accessing it from another remote box i get variable connections with timeouts, and now it has failed to open at all. Can anyone give me a pointer as to where i may correct this? [Ubuntu 9.10]
[17:43] <mark1> does anyone know how to find out the exact model of your graphics card ?
[17:43] <bens> iMaTh, no. swap is full.  The system never stops swapping. Eventually I have to swapoff to clear it out, which does NOT result in my  memory being filled with 4GB of stuff.
[17:44] <bens> Once I swapoff, and swap back on, performance is great again.
[17:44] <bens> I blamed it on VMware at first, so I gave up VMware and went KVM instead, but its started again.
[17:44] <iMaTh> bens, strange :s i have no ideas sorry :s
[17:44] <mosh_> join ubuntu-es
[17:44] <Maxtor_111> anyone using mutt or configured if before...please help me to do it.
[17:44] <linda__> try virtual box
[17:45] <dunas> Any idea why I can't add this computer to the Ubuntu One account?
[17:45] <labor> oi
[17:45] <labor> voce esta bem
[17:46] <bens> dunas, cause u1 is all borked right now :)
[17:46] <geekphreak> !es | labor
[17:46] <bens> dunas, create a new user account, log in with it, and connect u1.  Should bring you to ubuntuone SSO to sign in.
[17:46] <Chetic> Is there a fairly easy way to disable right-clicks?
[17:46] <bens> dunas, I had the same problem with last nights build.
[17:46] <linda__> dunas sorry have u ever used it before now
[17:46] <deposito> if i want to install virtualbox, i only have to choose virtualbox-ose from synaptic?
[17:47] <dunas> bens, I see, so making a new account should fix it?
[17:47] <Libertad> âàó
[17:47] <sinux> bens, I think you have too much of swap allocated what is your ubuntu structure is it x86 or x86_64
[17:47] <archa> Hi
[17:47] <Bezerk-BR> Hi all!
[17:47] <deposito> hi
[17:47] <berefeira> hellos
[17:47] <linda__> you could download it from their site "sun" cos it supports usb
[17:47] <deposito> linda__, thats for me?
[17:48] <geekphreak> linda__: use the person name, when talking to them, avoid confusion thank you
[17:48] <mslovette> I have an issue with a USB HDD and an internal ide-scsi raid cluster... it appears that, on boot and if the usb drive is left powered up (with no fstab entry), the USB drive snatches the /dev assignment from the RAID and then mounts to the wrong point... any thoughts?
[17:48] <linda__> deposito yes
[17:48] <linda__> how
[17:48] <sinux> greggomano, nautilus have the tab function you want
[17:48] <linda__> any short keys for that
[17:48] <deposito> linda__, ok.. im looking at www.virtualbox.org thanks!
[17:49] <geekphreak> linda__:  type first few letter of person name, press tab key
[17:49] <deposito> linda__, like that :D
[17:49] <sinux> mslovette, try to post it on forum you might get good response
[17:49] <mslovette> willdo
[17:49] <linda__> geekphreak, ok
[17:49] <linda__> thanks
[17:49] <geekphreak> linda__:  thank you mam
[17:49] <linda__> geekphreak, thank you
[17:50] <sinux> linda__, r u new to IRC
[17:50] <sinux> chating
[17:50] <bushbaby> I'm running Apache on my Ubuntu server and accessing localhost or the IP from the server is fine, however, when accessing it from another remote box I get variable connections with time-outs, and now it has failed to open at all. Can anyone give me a pointer as to where I may correct this? [Ubuntu 9.10] Anyone?
[17:50] <linda__> deposito, you welcome
[17:50] <deposito> linda__, :D
[17:51] <geekphreak> bushbaby: i would check if ip is correct and perm. is ok
[17:51] <bens> dunas, I deleted my account only because i couldn't figure out where u1 was storing configs.
[17:51] <geekphreak> bushbaby: will check port number too , make sure its using default 80 :)
[17:51] <bens> dunas, i recreated a new account and tried to connect again and it worked.  the first time I tried and it failed, i think it was because SSO failed on the first try, and you don't get another chance.
[17:52] <bushbaby> geekphreak, yes. ip is correct and permenant. Port is also correct.
[17:52] <dunas> bens, aha. I had to recover my password, that might've broken its sequence somehow.
[17:52] <bens> sinux, Doesn't matter how much swap I allocate.  I've tried using less, to no avail.  x86 and x86_64.
[17:52] <geekphreak> bushbaby:  permisson set ok , readable?
[17:52] <bushbaby> geekphreak, It was working well a few hours ago..
[17:52] <dunas> Tried it back when 9.10 was new and decided to wait.
[17:52] <bens> dunas, yup, its a bug, but i don't think anyone has reported it yet.
[17:52] <bens> not good one day before release.
[17:52] <geekphreak> bushbaby: stupid question, is apache running :)
[17:53] <ubuntu> cześć
[17:53] <JodaZ> how do i disable font bluring ?
[17:53] <dunas> bens, seems more like a bug in U1 than a bug in 10.04, though. Hopefully they'll get it hammered out by tonight- might be they're already aware.
[17:54] <dunas> At least the software center looks nice and works fairly well
[17:54] <bens> dunas, I already talked to them about it last night.  They hadn't heard about it.
[17:54] <bens> I'm letting them know again that others have reproduced.
[17:54] <bushbaby> geekphreak, yes, i've reset it and checked a few times..
[17:54] <dunas> Alright, good to know then. I'll go ahead and delete/remake.
[17:54] <dunas> Thanks for your help. :)
[17:54] <bushbaby> geekphreak, it's strange, i havne't changed any settings to my knowledge.. it's just, stopped.
[17:55] <geekphreak> bushbaby: you get connection timeout ?
[17:55] <bushbaby> geekphreak, yes
[17:55] <geekphreak> can you post exact message bushbaby?
[17:55] <geekphreak> ok
[17:55] <deposito> i want to install some dos in my virtualbox running on ubuntu 9.10. Is ms-dos free? The best option is freedos ?
[17:55] <bushbaby> geekphreak, the exact message in firefox? (using firefox to connect)
[17:55] <geekphreak> yes bushbaby , that would be nice
[17:56] <maruen> hey ow
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Freedos is free and quite good.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> better then msdos in a great many ways
[17:57] <JodaZ> how do i disable font bluring ?
[17:57] <dunas> wait, MS DOS what
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> deposito:  why do you need dos on virtualbox anyway? There is the dosbox and dosemu emulators
[17:57] <bushbaby> geekphreak, "The Connection has timed out The server at #my ip(correct i checked with ifconfig)# is taking too long to respond. The site could be temporarily unavailable. Try again in a few moments. etc etc (Other suggestions like network settings and firewalls (both ok))
[17:58]  * geekphreak does'nt get  idea of people using dos emulator, with bash around which is way more powerfull 
[17:58] <_blackwater_> * some things just work better without windoze.
[17:58] <geekphreak> bushbaby: hope you are not using internal ip , you have to use external ip
[17:59] <bens> dunas, let me know if recreating your account works.
[17:59] <ubu_user> deposito, I'd recommend trying DosBox over trying to run MS-DOS in VBox (though it's possible)
[17:59] <bushbaby> geekphreak, yes i'm using external ip.
[17:59] <dunas> bens, will do, was waiting to launch firefox until the restricted packages installed
[17:59] <geekphreak> bushbaby: port 80 open in router?
[18:00] <geekphreak> bushbaby:  port forwarding and all that good stuff
[18:00] <linda_> geekphreak, which of the ssh server did u install
[18:00] <bushbaby> geekphreak, yes. It was working before so i wouldn't have thought it would have changed?
[18:01] <geekphreak> bushbaby: hmm true , did you do anything update , uninstall anything ?
[18:01] <linda_> opensshor lsdssh
[18:01] <deposito> ubu_user, thanks... im trying to use dosemu but i have problems using shared folders :s ... do you know if with dosbox i can use it?  i tried to do this http://pascalek.pers.pl/en/propage/samba4dosemu-introduction without any luck
[18:01] <geekphreak> linda_: i dont use ssh servers
[18:01] <linda_> so do u connect remotely
[18:01] <bushbaby> geekphreak, i tried setting up an ftp server on the same system using proftpd. and them removed it I can't think of anything else?
[18:02] <geekphreak> naaw that uses a different por bushbaby
[18:02] <geekphreak> port*
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> deposito:  why are you doing this anyway? dosbox can access local linux dirs. so you could mount a share to a linux directory, then let dosbox access that
[18:02] <ubu_user> deposito, i've never played with dosemu before, so no help on that front.  Shared folders?  not entirely sure what you mean, but dosbox with proper configuration can certainly use your linux directories.  Good luck.
[18:02] <geekphreak> bushbaby: can i pm you?
[18:03] <dunas> Hm
[18:03] <Maxtor_111> anyone using mutt or configured it before...please help me to do it.
[18:03] <stodorovic> Maxtor_111: dont ask to ask. just ask
[18:03] <bushbaby> geekphreak, yes, though i'm quite new to irc so not sure how it works.. heh..
[18:04] <mmica> hi all
[18:04] <dunas> bens, how did you delete the account?
[18:05] <deposito> Dr_Willis, im not trying to play. I need it to work. I have one pc with XP acting as a server. Sharing some folder and all the clients access to it. (right now all with xp). Im trying to migrate to ubuntu. i cant mount the shared unit but i cant use it from dosemu. The program at my work runs in dos
[18:05] <deposito> ubu_user, because i need a program that is in a remote machine :D .. thanks anyway!
[18:05] <aleksey> есть кто?
[18:06] <ubu_user> deposito, so long as your samba shares are mounted on your file system somewhere, dosbox could access them.
[18:06] <uLinux> aleksey english pls
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> deposito:  you sould in therory be able to  have dosbox  access the 'share mounted to a directory' as a drive letter.
[18:06] <etsorbme8> ! lucid support
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> deposito:  theres also dosbox for windows. You could be sure the program will work in there first.
[18:06] <aleksey> rossia
[18:06] <LjL> !ru | aleksey
[18:06] <dotnetted> hey all - my ubuntu 9.1 bootup is very slow due to the following errors repeating 5+ times: "ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)" / "ata5: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset"
[18:06] <Pici> !lucid | etsorbme8
[18:07] <dotnetted> anyone know what ata5 may be or how to find out?
[18:07] <bens> dunas, lots of ways to do it.
[18:07] <epv> can i directly update ubuntu from 9.04 to 10.06?
[18:07] <bens> dunas, easiest is to just create a new account through system-administration-usersandgroups
[18:07] <deposito> Dr_Willis, i cant do it right now.. there are in use. But the guys from this "software" says that they have this program working in ubuntu with dosemu :S
[18:07] <ubu_user> epv, no
[18:07] <epv> can i directly update ubuntu from 9.04 to 10.04
[18:08] <Pici> epv: no
[18:08] <sinux> epv, yes and the verson is 10.04
[18:08] <ubu_user> epv, ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:08] <sab> i m using ubuntu 10.04;tomorrow it will going to release its stable version,can any one please tell me how can i make my beta version to stable one?
[18:08] <Pici> !final > sab
[18:08] <dunas> bens, Oh, I thought you meant create a new U1 account
[18:08] <bens> nono.
[18:08] <bens> ha.
[18:08] <mark1> does anyone know how i can find out the exact model of my graphics card ?
[18:08] <ubu_user> sab, just update -- see !final as Pici just sent you
[18:08] <bens> dunas, actually, try this.
[18:08] <Pici> sab: Further 10.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[18:08] <deposito> ubu_user, yes maybe i have to try with dosbox, with dosemu i always have an invalid argument F:
[18:09] <bens> dunas, close u1-preferences, then open a terminal and killall -9 ubuntuone-login
[18:09] <bens> dunas, then start u1-preferences again andsee if it prompts you to login to SSO again.
[18:11] <dunas> bens, massive success
[18:11] <dunas> Firefox autologged me in, and it immediately asked me if I wanted to authenticate the computer.
[18:11] <daum> hey guys - i'm having trouble with ssh it seems to be started but i can't connect , netstat -an shows it as tcp 0 0 myip:22 0.0.0.0:* listen
[18:11] <dunas> It's kind of a messy workaround for users who don't like the terminal, though.
[18:12] <dotnetted> If anyone has a minute please take a look at http://pastebin.com/iX8ghSm0 (dmesg log w/ highlights) - Ubuntu takes a long time to boot because of a repeating "ata5: link is slow to respond" - anyone have any suggestions? thanks
[18:12] <dunas> bens, but yes, that worked perfectly. Thanks for your help.
[18:12] <smik> any application which allow me to send receive SMS from my mobile using the AT commands
[18:12] <smik> some kind of phone manager
[18:12] <_blackwater_> duam what's the error message on the connecting host
[18:13] <nickaugust> Hey I'm trying to apt-get update and I get this error: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FC66403D8670A035 .... but theres not laucnhpad addresses in my sources file.. any idea hwo to fix?
[18:14] <gladiator> did anyone tell people at skype that their software doesnt work well with 10.04?
[18:14] <Pici> gladiator : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:14] <gladiator> well it does work.. but the text on the menus is not visible due to the new color scheme
[18:15] <gladiator> Pici: ok sorry. forgot that
[18:15] <FFF666> hi, is there a spanish-ubuntu channel?
[18:15] <Pici> FFF666: #ubuntu-es
[18:15] <FFF666> thanks -- gracias
[18:16] <ubu_user> nickaugust, see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1052014.html or http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=18322 good luck man
[18:16] <daum> can someone help me figure out why my ssh doens't seem to be working on my box...
[18:16] <nicholast> hello
[18:16] <_blackwater_> daum I just asked you the question, what's the error your getting on the connecting host?
[18:16] <gladiator> daum: whats the problem?
[18:16] <linda_> daum, did you install the server
[18:16] <daum> _blackwater_, oh sorry didn't see, it just sits there timed out
[18:17] <daum> linda_, yes, gladiator - can't connect to the server it just sits there (no connect refused or anything)
[18:17] <_blackwater_> server is running if tcp 0 0 myip:22 0.0.0.0:* listen
[18:17] <_blackwater_> daum also check and see if you can ping the target host from the station you're trying to ssh
[18:18] <daum> _blackwater_, yep i can ping
[18:18] <_blackwater_> ok
[18:18] <nmobix> !pastebin
[18:18] <_blackwater_> daum what's the ssh client your using to connect and on what os?
[18:18] <nmobix> !pastebinit
[18:18] <bens> dunas, no problem.
[18:18] <daum> _blackwater_, hm nmap doesn't show the port as open though, i'm just using a terminal from my main linux box
[18:19] <FirstSgt> I am looking for linux software similar to logmein, that will maintain a persistant outbound connection from our offices to our webservers.  once logging in, commands can be sent to the linux box at the office requesting a connection.  Similar to a hacker's reverse bind connect.  But I need a secure way to do this, as logmein does not support linux, and we are unable to port-forward at our offices.  Using ubuntu helena
[18:19] <daum> _blackwater_, one seci  think ther eis an ip conflict sec
[18:19] <_blackwater_> daum get on the box with the ssh server running, drop to console, and ssh to the ip of the localbox, so ssh yourusername@yourlocalip.com
[18:20] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: vnc over reverse ssh tunnel
[18:20] <_blackwater_> daum o ok
[18:20] <LzrdKing> you can port forward
[18:20] <daum> _blackwater_, i think there is an ipconflict just noticed the ports that are registering as open are all for a windows machien on the same block
[18:20] <FirstSgt> I can't port forward
[18:20] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: you can, just use an unused port
[18:20] <_blackwater_> daum yeh that might be a problem, otherwise if the netstat says 22 is opened then you should be good to go.
[18:20] <BedMan> FirstSgt: ssh tunneling isn't port forwarding until it gets to its destinations...
[18:20] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: i've heard some good things about TeamViewer
[18:21] <daum> yeah _blackwater_ guy just goes "oh yah my bad"
[18:21] <ubutom> nice nmobix , pastebinit sounds cool :)
[18:21] <FirstSgt> We are in shared office buildings... network admin wont allow
[18:21] <linda_> LzrdKing, teamviewer is nice
[18:21] <LzrdKing> i've never used teamviewr, just vnc over ssh tunnels
[18:22] <BedMan> FirstSgt: the network admins will see a ssh connection on 22... that's it. they don't see the ports
[18:22] <smik> some kind of phone manager
[18:22] <smik> any application which allow me to send receive SMS from my mobile using the AT commands. Some kind of phone manager
[18:22] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: ahhh, he won't allow it; doesn't mean you can't do it
[18:22] <nmobix> ubutom, ;)
[18:22] <FirstSgt> lol... firewall wont allow inbound connections of any type unless requested
[18:22] <LzrdKing> no admin would ALLOW ssh tunnels through their firewall
[18:22] <FirstSgt> teamviewer looks cool
[18:22] <Chetic> Is there a way to disable right-clicks?
[18:23] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: thats the point of the tunnel, it IS requested
[18:23] <jrib> Chetic: why?
[18:23] <BedMan> FirstSgt: so initiate the ssh connection from inside, then use the forwarded port on localhost to localhost on the other side...
[18:23] <unixabg> Greetings, is there a way to convert a CentOS system to Ubuntu remotely?
[18:23] <BedMan> FirstSgt: it's bloody magic :)
[18:23] <Chetic> jrib, throwing a party and don't want to let anyone use anything but the music player (they love to sabotage)
[18:23] <Green_Wax> JUST ONE MORE DAY!
[18:23] <geekphreak> unixabg: huh?
[18:23] <LzrdKing> bedman, it is some voodoo, yes
[18:24] <BedMan> unixabg: not likely
[18:24] <geekphreak> Green_Wax: no caps please
[18:24] <LjL> Green_Wax: party in #ubuntu-release-party please, but not here
[18:24] <Green_Wax> sorry
[18:24] <BedMan> LzrdKing: nod... ssh tunnels are the shiznit
[18:24] <Green_Wax> my bad
[18:24] <unixabg> geekphreak and BedMan, thanks for the response.
[18:24] <linda_> what is unixabg
[18:24] <LzrdKing> BedMan: especially when used with autossh
[18:24] <jrib> Chetic: I have two suggestions: 1) just use the guest session (when you logout all changes are lost) or 2) read the admin guide about locking down gnome (there are 2 documents, read them both) at library.gnome.org
[18:24] <geekphreak> unixabg: np mate
[18:24] <unixabg> linda_, my userid
[18:25] <linda_> o
[18:25] <dotnetted> I have to type ra0 to auto in /etc/network/interfaces I have to ifdown/ifup ra0 after boot to get it working - why might this be? (all wpa2 settings are also specified in /etc/network/interfaces)
[18:25] <FirstSgt> I can write code if I need to, bash / php... we do have servers outside the firewall in chiago as well.
[18:25] <dotnetted> err **"If I put ra0 in /etc/netw....."
[18:26] <FirstSgt> LzrdKing, BedMan: How would I tell the server (behind the firewall) where to initiate the connection to?
[18:26] <dotnetted> I've tried adding "pre-up sleep 20" - no change
[18:26] <Chetic> jrib, about the guest session, exactly all changes? like browser bookmarks, filesystem, application settings etc
[18:27] <jrib> Chetic: yeah, everythingg
[18:27] <BedMan> FirstSgt: look to the man pages for ssh, they will help.  it seems confusing at first, admittedly, but try a few things
[18:27] <FirstSgt> im familiar with reverse bind shells... running nc listening on whatever port on the client side.  but how would I do that via VPN or VNC?
[18:27] <geekphreak> unixabg: can i ask you something, why do you wana do that?
[18:27] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: you'd need a box you could ssh to directly; indeed thats all logmein and teamviewer provide, that middle box on the internet, not behind a firewall
[18:27] <BedMan> FirstSgt: the same way you would login to the remote box in chicago...
[18:27] <FirstSgt> BedMan: It seems as though I would have to run a 1 min cron to check a web server for which ip to connect to.
[18:27] <Chetic> jrib, did not know that! thanks!
[18:27] <uLinux> If I disable windows notifications with this command - http://pastebin.com/MX288izK - can I undo it later?
[18:28] <FirstSgt> BedMan: the server in chiago I control the firewall to.  and I allow ssh connections via no-auth / and public key
[18:28] <unixabg> geekphreak, I have a unit in a colo rack that I do not want centos on and I want to move it to either Debian or Ubuntu.
[18:28] <jrib> Chetic: that's probably the easiest way, just make sure guest has read access to your music library
[18:28] <fanani> hI all , ubuntu when ubuntu 10.05 release ? do u know certainty
[18:28] <fanani> thnk
[18:28] <FirstSgt> BedMan: so it accepts the connections.
[18:28] <fanani> :D
[18:28] <FirstSgt> BedMan: the office one does not accept connections.
[18:28] <ubu_user> !isitout | fanani
[18:28] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: your IP changed every minute or something?
[18:28] <geekphreak> unixabg: starting from scratch would be a good idea, you can import emails and all that later , much less hassel
[18:28] <_blackwater_> FirstSgt 'tunnelling' implies use of ipsec encryption, if that protocal is disallowed through the firewalled interfaces then your tunnelled connection to the admin controlled office wouldn't work.
[18:28] <LzrdKing> changed*
[18:28] <BedMan> FirstSgt: see PM
[18:28] <FirstSgt> LzrdKing: no.  it never changes at the office.
[18:29] <FirstSgt> BedMan: ok
[18:29] <unixabg> geekphreak, I am thinking if I could setup to reboot and launch an automated install I can pass the ip information on boot param.
[18:29] <fanani> but in ubuntu site , a reade as available soon
[18:29] <dreyk> hi guys whats up
[18:29] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: why would you need cron to check a webserver for the ip?
[18:29] <geekphreak> nada
[18:29] <fanani> is the release is tomowrow ?
[18:29] <iMaTh> fanani, yes :)
[18:30] <geekphreak> LzrdKing:  prob. dynamic ip updating ?
[18:30] <fanani> ok , thank imath .... n womorow we willl party
[18:30] <fanani> :D
[18:30] <dreyk> anyone here who has experience with chinese scim?
[18:30] <iMaTh> hihi
[18:30] <iMaTh> :)
[18:30] <LzrdKing> geekphreak: he said its static
[18:31] <geekphreak> LzrdKing: oh my bad, i apologize
[18:31] <fate> hi my brother in os
[18:31] <lalalol> !awn
[18:31] <dreyk> is this the support channel?
[18:31] <Pici> dreyk: Yes.
[18:31] <fate> privet perni
[18:32] <fate> i devushki
[18:32] <dreyk> anyone can help me with how to use scim?
[18:32] <FirstSgt> LzrdKing: the servers at the office accept no incoming connections, but the outside IP is static
[18:32] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: can you ssh to any computer that is accessable on the internet?
[18:32] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, in what way?
[18:32] <fate> yep
[18:33] <dreyk> im trying to use chinese input via scim
[18:33] <FirstSgt> LzrdKing: yes.  our production web server has ssh via public key on different port
[18:33] <dreyk> but i dont know how to switch to that language
[18:33] <psycho_oreos> using pinyin I suppose?
[18:33] <dreyk> yes
[18:33] <maek> I attached a SATA disk to USB via a sata to usb converter cable and I Get this "sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdd" in dmesg but fdisk -l doesnt show /dev/sdd. any idea what I can I do to get info about the disk/mount it? mount /dev/sdd doesn't work. thanks.
[18:33] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: so ssh there, and use the -L or -R options to forward ports
[18:33] <Guest88083> hi all: error in pdns-recursor. when using apt-get, aptitude, synaptic. how-to remove it?
[18:34] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, have you got SCIM icon on your screen?
[18:34] <Guest88083> can't remove it by using standart options
[18:34] <dreyk> no how does that look like?
[18:34] <dreyk> keyboard?
[18:34] <FirstSgt> hmm
[18:35] <geekphreak> maek try changing usb port
[18:35] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, yup, could also look like a keyboard and/or a small square icon with SC on top and IM on bottom in that small square icon
[18:35] <geekphreak> maek: just checking if port is ok
[18:35] <FirstSgt> so, if this computer is my ubuntu server, then open an ssh connection to web server (with -L or -R).... and I can just "resume session" somehow ?
[18:35] <Guest88083> invoke-rc.d: initscript pdns-recursor, action "start" failed.
[18:35] <dreyk> there is only a keyboard symbol in my panel
[18:35] <dreyk> nothing at the bottom
[18:36] <Bjarnovikus> Everyone ready for 10.04? (A)
[18:36] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, try clicking on it and see if you get a square box with the words scim
[18:36] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > Bjarnovikus
[18:36] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: you'd ssh to the port you're forwarding
[18:36] <maek> geekphreak: nice. thanks that did it
[18:36] <geekphreak> maek: no worries
[18:36] <dreyk> nothing, only when i right click on it i can do some configuring
[18:36] <skrite_> hey all
[18:37] <_blackwater_> !hi | skrite_
[18:37] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, hmm but that's the scim configuration window?
[18:37] <FirstSgt> LzrdKing: do you konw of a good guide or a good term to google for?
[18:38] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: google for vnc over ssh
[18:38] <mod> i'm looking for a an alternative to Songbird that at least as useful and just as pretty (now that the morons as Mozilla arent support LInux platforms anymore)
[18:38] <dreyk> i guess so
[18:38] <mod> any suggestions?
[18:38] <FirstSgt> LzrdKing: thanks
[18:38] <FirstSgt> LzrdKing: thanks for your time too
[18:39] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, if you can get into the scim configurations through that keyboard icon, you should see a new window popping up with big words clearly indicating SCIM
[18:39] <LzrdKing> FirstSgt: if you want cli access, install screen abd use on the server you want to access
[18:39] <JodaZ> how do i get sharp fonts on ubuntu ??!
[18:39] <LzrdKing> install and use screen*
[18:39] <dreyk> yeah im in there
[18:39] <ubu_user> mod, i wish i knew of one - i dropped songbird like a stone on the announcement they're dropping support for Linux - I'm using Rhythmbox right now, but it really isn't as cool/neat
[18:40] <geekphreak> whats song bird for?
[18:40] <xomp> what time tomorrow is ubuntu 10 coming? :)
[18:40] <maek> geekphreak: itunes ish. music
[18:40] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > xomp
[18:40] <geekphreak> oh ok thanks meak
[18:40] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, ok first go into GTK (under Panel)
[18:40] <dreyk> yeah im in
[18:41] <owner> !luci
[18:41] <ubu_user> xomp, the time of release is never known
[18:41] <owner> !lucid
[18:41] <xomp> cheers
[18:41] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, no under the Show: option click on always, so that you should get that fancy square icon and hit apply
[18:41] <dreyk> i got show: always and everything ticked except for the bottom line
[18:42] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I solve this APT issue?  http://pastebin.com/xKaQpeRV
[18:42] <jbwiv> is there something I have to do to make an applet show up in the list of available applets after I install them? I installed the sensors-applet, but it doesn't show up in the list of available applets I can install to the panel
[18:42] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, hmm you'll probably need to restart scim for it to take effect
[18:42] <Guest53826> Yo! 10.4 released tomorrow ? :D
[18:42] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > Guest53826
[18:42] <dreyk> well i already had that on "always"
[18:42] <theuros> can someone tell me how i can setup menu like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX6UEt632c4 ??  ..bottom menu
[18:42] <Guest53826> :o
[18:42] <dreyk> how do i restart scim btw?
[18:43] <_tsolox_> with regards to active/passive ftp connection between a client & server, an active-ftp client using 'high-port' connects to server port21. The server responds back data via the 'high port'. Question: Is this 'high port' the value that the server detected upon client's initial connection? Or is it further negotiated, and this means it could have a different value, from what the client uses during initial contact to the server.
[18:43] <geekphreak> goodnight folks
[18:43] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, not sure I personally use the command line way, via pkill
[18:43] <maek> is there a terminal command to eject a usb disk?
[18:43] <stodorovic> Does ubuntu not have Duke Nukem 3D?
[18:43] <WXZ> can the terminal do like anything?
[18:43] <_tsolox_> maek: umount
[18:43] <WXZ> like open a file
[18:44] <BedMan> _tsolox_: the high port is determined on the system that initiated the connection, and is not defined.
[18:44] <WXZ> or run an executable
[18:44] <Guest53826> WXZ: It can do everything :/
[18:44] <dreyk> in the terminal?
[18:44] <psycho_oreos> maek, yes eject <device>
[18:44] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, yup, I'm a bit old fashioned
[18:44] <WXZ> alright guest53226
[18:44] <maek> _tsolox_, psycho_oreos : thanks
[18:44] <WXZ> so it can like open a ~certain~ note from tomboy notes?
[18:44] <dreyk> ;)
[18:44] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, there might be a way to do it through the GUI but I wouldn't know personally
[18:44] <psycho_oreos> maek, no worries, if that fails you might need sudo
[18:44] <Manfred-> WXZ: yep, you can even watch videos in the terminal
[18:44] <dreyk> haha, im sorry but i dont know how to use that command
[18:45] <WXZ> hold on a second, I"m going to go cry
[18:45] <dreyk> im pretty new to everything i guess, switched to linux few days ago
[18:45] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, well in terminal, what I'd do is "sudo pkill scim-launcher"
[18:45] <_tsolox_> BedMan: how does the client tell the server of this high port value?
[18:45] <theuros> can someone tell me how i can setup menu like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX6UEt632c4 ??  ..bottom menu
[18:46] <dreyk> ok did that
[18:46] <JodaZ> huh, where has the hotkey to restart X (ctrl alt backspace) gone ?!
[18:46] <BedMan> _tsolox_: its part of the connection protocol with TCP
[18:46] <arand> theuros: Avant window navigator
[18:46] <BedMan> _tsolox_: take a look at your netstat -an sometime
[18:46] <theuros> thanx
[18:46] <LzrdKing> JodaZ: yeah, i've tried control-alt-backspace myself several times, it no work no more
[18:47] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, now do "sudo scim-launcher &"
[18:47] <Manfred-> JodaZ: it's now something like Ctrl+PrntScr+K
[18:47] <uLinux> If I disable windows notifications with this command - http://pastebin.com/MX288izK - can I undo it later?
[18:47] <LzrdKing> control-alt-delete doesn't restart from inside X either
[18:47] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, you should have scim icon by now if not try logging out and log back in
[18:47] <LzrdKing> Manfred-: can you very that?
[18:47] <dreyk> ok wait a minute
[18:47] <Manfred-> LzrdKing: sure, sec'
[18:48] <arand> JodaZ: replaced with alt+sysreq+k
[18:48] <marek_> ok
[18:48] <stodorovic> if you run Fluxbox, you better not press ctrl-alt-del - it will kill your x session :)
[18:48] <dreyk> it says:          scim-launcher: command not found
[18:48] <LzrdKing> stodorovic: openbox does not
[18:48] <psycho_oreos> stodorovic, you can rebind the keys for that... check under ~/.fluxbox/keys
[18:48] <JodaZ> lol, i just got flooded with save screenshot thingys
[18:48] <LzrdKing> arand: why the change, and can the sequence be changed?
[18:48] <owner> Where is sources file located? I mean the file, where I can add/del new software links
[18:49] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, but you executed that pkill command and it didn't fail?
[18:49] <JodaZ> and omfg, they aint grouped in the taskbar so i need to close them one by one
[18:49] <stodorovic> arand: but that's the magic sysrq keys...
[18:49] <_tsolox_> BedMan: how about for "passive ftp" wherein it's the client that ask for data..and not the server pushing data back to the client?
[18:49] <JodaZ> where is sysreg anyways ?
[18:49] <dominicdinada> Is anybody running broadcom 4306 drivers?
[18:49] <psycho_oreos> owner: /etc/apt/source.list iirc
[18:49] <arand> LzrdKing: It was considered to easy to hit by mistake
[18:49] <owner> tHAnks
[18:49] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, not I, why?
[18:49] <dreyk> i was asked for pw but no errors
[18:49] <LzrdKing> arand: how can it be changed?
[18:50] <arand> JodaZ: Commonly the same or close to printscrn
[18:50] <JodaZ> yeah, worked now
[18:50] <JodaZ> how do i change screen resolution ?
[18:50] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, try "which scim-launcher"
[18:50] <dominicdinada> psycho_oreos: I am having alot of problems since yesterday
[18:50] <arand> LzrdKing: In keyboard properties - advanced, it can be re-enabled
[18:50] <mkhanyisi> How do I change the theme of the login screen?
[18:50] <arand> LzrdKing: *keyboard layout
[18:50] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, of what sort?
[18:50] <WXZ> hey in ubuntu, when I do a bunch of actions
[18:50] <dreyk> tried. nothing happened
[18:51] <WXZ> like open windows and such
[18:51] <WXZ> can I see the corresponding terminal commands?
[18:51] <dominicdinada> I had everything working before yesterday and then yesterday I added Kubuntu-desktop and removed wine and all of a sudden it killed my built in wifi
[18:51] <WXZ> a sort of similar thing happened to me dominic
[18:51] <psycho_oreos> WXZ, you can't, not unless if its a script instead of a program
[18:51] <LzrdKing> arand: i'm not using gnome, is it in an X config file somewhere?
[18:51] <WXZ> dang
[18:52] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, meaning you have no wifi connection and that you can't scan for networks?
[18:52] <psycho_oreos> LzrdKing, there's no xorg config file by default, its all autoprobed..
[18:52] <dominicdinada> I readded wine but after adding the drivers the interfaces are still not showing up, not only are they not showing up they are reserved... so the other 3 external wifi devices i have start at wlan3-4-5
[18:52] <dominicdinada> correct
[18:52] <dreyk> no ideas?
[18:52] <arand> !dontzap | LzrdKing
[18:53] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, sounds like you're missing b43-fwcutter iirc its a tool you need to cut the firmwares out... because they are proprietary
[18:53] <LzrdKing> arand: thanks!
[18:53] <Slart> dominicdinada: that is defined in one of the udev rules I think.. check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:53] <dominicdinada> And don't send me to that USELESS post on the broadcom drivers I did that 2 the T on 6 distro's and it never worked I added the winblows drivers and it worked like a charm
[18:53] <dominicdinada> ok i will check
[18:53] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, try logging out and logging back in (on the xorg session) I'm trying to look for that scim-launcher's actual location
[18:54] <dotnetted> after booting & logging in wireless interface ra0 is "up" but not using any of the wpa vars in /etc/network/interfaces (ie. wpa-ssid/wpa-psk...) - If I do 'ifdown ra0' then 'ifup ra0' everything connects perfectly - any ideas?
[18:54] <Slart> dominicdinada: I think that every time ubuntu finds a new network device it adds it to that file and increments the number.. same thing with wired network cards
[18:54] <dreyk> ok thank you so far. brb
[18:54] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, well in that case you'll need ndiswrapper and of course the driver disc or the windows ndis drivers for that broadcom
[18:54] <dominicdinada> i have ndiswrapper
[18:55] <pbmarcano_> this may be over asked but does anyone know the release date of 10.04LTS?
[18:55] <psycho_oreos> Slart, its to do with udev rules, you can modify that, I have had that happening and I commented all these incremented other irrelevant wireless interfaces out
[18:55] <Pici> !lucid > pbmarcano_
[18:55] <paddy> pbmarcano_ tommorow
[18:55] <dominicdinada> the drivers say they are installed but "Unable to see if network hardware is present" everytime i load ndiswrapper
[18:55] <uLinux> If I disable windows notifications with this command - http://pastebin.com/MX288izK - can I undo it later?
[18:55] <Slart> pbmarcano_: ask in #ubuntu+1, there might be a release party channel somewhere as well
[18:55] <LzrdKing> alt-sysrw-k is a pain to hit, since the k is in between the other keys and they are so far apart; you almost need 3 hands for it
[18:55] <Pici> Slart: #ubuntu-release-party , its in the !lucid factoid now
[18:56] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, can you pastebin (not paste) your dmesg output?
[18:56] <Slart> psycho_oreos: yes.. or you can remove them.. ubuntu will happily add them to that file again
[18:56] <stodorovic> LzrdKing: I sometimes use my nose :)
[18:56] <{g}> Hey People! On this machine here (Ubuntu 8.04) the Update Manager keeps popping up and wants to intall an irssi update. But then comes up with a 404 not found error messages. Any ideas about this?
[18:56] <Slart> Pici: ah, thanks
[18:56] <stodorovic> {g}: probably the repo address has moved or is not supported anymore
[18:56] <psycho_oreos> Slart, true, which will be a problem for me if and when that comes around again :), probably just setup persistent rules :)
[18:56] <Slart> pbmarcano_: the release party channel is #ubuntu-release-party  .. they probably have a counter up or something
[18:56] <{g}> stodorovic: ubuntu 8.04 is not supported anymore?
[18:57] <Slart> !8.04
[18:57] <dreyk> im back
[18:57] <dreyk> so where do i launch scim again?
[18:57] <stodorovic> {g}: how would I know... i hate using ubuntu :(
[18:57] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, did you get the scim box?
[18:57] <{g}> stodorovic: why?
[18:57] <dreyk> no there is no box and no keyboard icon in the panel either
[18:57] <Pici> {g}: Which repository are you trying to fetch the package from?
[18:57] <Slart> {g}: I think it's still supported.. 5 years? or 3 years? have you checked the ubuntu site? there is a diagram somewhere with the ed-of-life dates for each version
[18:57] <stodorovic> {g}: because there are too many things here that seem to restrict software development on it.
[18:57] <armence_> hey all
[18:57] <armence_> Is there a way to check my harddrive?
[18:58] <armence_> I'm hearing a whistling noise sometimes and I just want to make sure it's not the hdd
[18:58] <sp0spo> hi
[18:58] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, hmm :/ try "sudo /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher"
[18:58] <Slart> armence_: there a disk utility.. in system, administration I think
[18:58] <stodorovic> armence_: take out the hard drive, and look at it for dust and finger marks?
[18:58] <sp0spo> if i copy a hard link  does the full size of the file get copied or just a link to the location?
[18:58] <WXZ> anyone know how to launch a tomboy note from terminal?
[18:58] <armence_> stodorovic, That's also a good idea
[18:58] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, use pastebin please :)
[18:58] <{g}> Pici: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/irssi/irssi_0.8.12-3ubuntu3.2_i386.deb 404 Not Found
[18:59] <Slart> armence_: then there's fsck to check the filesystem.. that doesn't really check the harddrive though
[18:59] <dominicdinada> dont know pastebin lol
[18:59] <{g}> Pici: thats the error the update manager shows.
[18:59] <psycho_oreos> !pastebin | dominicdinada
[18:59] <thevishy> !pastebin
[18:59] <thevishy> is Lucid official?
[18:59] <{g}> Slart: if its not supported anymore, why would ubuntu send a "hey, update irssi" message to my machine?
[18:59] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > thevishy
[18:59] <Pici> {g}: issue an apt-get update, it looks like that package was superceded by a newer version.
[18:59] <thevishy> thanks
[19:00] <{g}> stodorovic: for example what? cant you just type "vim mystuff" and code whatever you want?
[19:00] <dreyk> it says "starting scim..."  but nothings happening
[19:00] <{g}> Pici: ok
[19:00] <Slart> {g}: once a version goes past its end-of-life it doesn't recieve updates any more.. afaik.. if you've added 3rd party repositories those might still update though
[19:00] <dreyk> Loading simple Config module ...
[19:00] <Slart> {g}: are you sure 8.04 support is over?
[19:00] <dreyk> Creating backend ...
[19:00] <dreyk> Loading socket FrontEnd module ...
[19:00] <dreyk> Starting SCIM ...
[19:00] <stodorovic> {g}: you are forced to use initrd for example :) and so so so so many -devel packages you need to pull. And it's also quite unstable in my experience.
[19:00] <FloodBot3> dreyk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:01] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, and is there an icon?
[19:01] <Pici> Slart: 8.04 is still supported for another year for desktop packages.
[19:01] <stodorovic> {g}: the fact that you *have* to specify an absolute version number when installing if there are more targets
[19:01] <dreyk> no icon on desktop, no icon on panel :(
[19:02] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, sounds like there is a possibility the settings has been changed somewhere
[19:02] <stodorovic> {g}: oh... and the fact that Ubuntu does not seem to have (working) ClanBomber package, nor an existing Duke Nukem 3D ;)
[19:02] <ales_t> hi, how does ubuntu deal with fan speed control? today I installed debian testing, and while in ubuntu the speed scaling has always worked perfectly, in debian all my fans run at full speed
[19:02] <dreyk> which settings? can i redo them anyway?
[19:02] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, pastebin (not paste) your "ps -A| grep scim" output
[19:03] <Pici> dreyk: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM ?
[19:03] <Slart> {g}: here's the chart I was talking about.. seems 8.04 is supported until middle of 2011 http://www.ubuntu.com/products/ubuntu/release-cycle
[19:03] <Pici> Slart: Someone else said it wasn't supported, not {g}
[19:03] <dominicdinada> lucid for kubuntu is out tomorrow by the way
[19:03] <{g}> stodorovic: i really dont know anything about desktop coding. i do everything web based these days. what would you like to code?
[19:03] <dominicdinada> 10.4 ls
[19:03] <Pici> !ot | stodorovic {g}
[19:03] <Pici> !party > dominicdinada
[19:03] <stodorovic> {g}: in any case, the file you want to update (irssi) is not in that directory, but the directory is accessible. maybe someone made a typo in the package name, or didn't mirror it to that address?
[19:03] <Slart> Pici: hmm.. I think I need some more coffee  =)
[19:04] <dominicdinada> psycho_oreos: did you get my pastebin
[19:04] <Pici> stodorovic: That package was superceded by a newer version, {g} probably needs to update his package lists.  see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi/+publishinghistory
[19:04] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, yeah just finished checking it and it seems to be an issue with the ndis driver (most likely)
[19:05] <dreyk> your command does nothing. theres no output
[19:05] <mark1> does anyone know how to share a ntfs harddrive with write permissions ?
[19:05] <dominicdinada> Ok should I remove the driver ?
[19:05] <stodorovic> Pici: yeah I just saw there is .14 on there instead of .12
[19:06] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, either that or maybe you need to check to see if the kernel can see the card (via lspci -nn) and if not, you might need to append acpi=off at boot
[19:06] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, you typed that in another terminal?
[19:06] <{g}> stodorovic: trying apt-get update; apt-get upgrade now
[19:06] <stodorovic> Custom-compiled vanilla kernel without initrd/initramfs on Ubuntu and fully booting, not going via any Ubuntu build process / dpkg / etc - possible or not?
[19:06] <psycho_oreos> mark1, over network?
[19:07] <{g}> stodorovic: seems to have worked!
[19:07] <dominicdinada> psycho_oreos: 02:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
[19:07] <stodorovic> {g}: good :)
[19:07] <dreyk> no in the same one
[19:07] <{g}> stodorovic: thanks!
[19:07] <erUSUL> stodorovic: no; will fail to boot without initramfs becouse the root fs is indicated via uuid
[19:07] <dominicdinada>  it is seeing the wireless device
[19:07] <dreyk> 12058 ?        00:00:00 scim-launcher
[19:07] <dreyk> 12062 ?        00:00:00 scim-helper-man
[19:07] <dreyk> 12063 ?        00:00:00 scim-panel-gtk
[19:07] <dreyk> 12065 ?        00:00:00 scim-launcher
[19:07] <dreyk> 12482 ?        00:00:00 scim-launcher
[19:07] <FloodBot3> dreyk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:07] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, ok so it sees it, might be a hardware switch that turns the device on or off and its set to off
[19:07] <dreyk> oh im sorry
[19:08] <stodorovic> erUSUL: I've had non-initrd kernels boot and mount the correct filessystems by UUID with no problems.
[19:08] <stodorovic> granted, it was on Slackware
[19:08] <selofi> holas! el canal español porfavor?
[19:08] <erUSUL> stodorovic: dunno last time i tried it failed
[19:08] <ubu_user> !es | selofi
[19:08] <selofi> gracias
[19:08] <{g}> I sometimes lose my wireless connection and then i have no idea to get it back. Is there a command line tool that is doing what the nm-applet is doing? I would like to play around with that next time. I really hat gui stuff.
[19:08] <C-S-B> has anyone got java plugin working in chromium? Worked before upgrading to lucid
[19:08] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, err ok, well it seems like its running, in fact 3 sessions of scim-launcher, I think there was an issue with my pkill command I suggested, and yeah the third one was where you executed it manually
[19:08] <dominicdinada> an Interrupt ? this card is internal but this model of laptop has a wifi button which now that you mention it is not lit up. It used to be but when I press it nothing happens
[19:09] <dominicdinada> psycho_oreos: an Interrupt ? this card is internal but this model of laptop has a wifi button which now that you mention it is not lit up. It used to be but when I press it nothing happens
[19:09] <_blackwater_> {g tail -f /var/log/syslog
[19:09] <stodorovic> erUSUL: I only ask because the last time I tried I had to rip out a ton of files out of the initrd and into the rootfs, otherwise it could not boot - it's as if Ubuntu has messed up the Linux boot process
[19:09] <dreyk> but how come i dont see the panel at all?
[19:09] <_blackwater_> in a console screen of course
[19:10] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, yeah its possible I mean its not easy to debug ndis errors, afterall with windows drivers, you're dealing with binary blob
[19:10] <erUSUL> stodorovic: afaik is pretty standar; the same as debian's
[19:10] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, its very possible that the session has not been killed cleanly (scim-launcher), hang on let me try something myself
[19:10] <stodorovic> erUSUL: I think some might disagree about it being standard ;)
[19:10] <{g}> _blackwater_: i meant some tool like "connect-wlan <ip_of_router>" that displays something like "trying to connect. succes. trying to login. failed. error message: wrong password" or something. the nm-applet just dies without any message.
[19:10] <dreyk> thank you so much
[19:11] <erUSUL> stodorovic: :)
[19:11] <dominicdinada> well it should be somewhat easy because everything was 100% fine until i added Kubuntu-desktop and removed wine. I since re-added wine but no luck! So that was when everything caused a problem
[19:11] <dominicdinada> if it helps the laptop is a hp zv5100
[19:11] <_blackwater_> {g syslog provides the telemetry you're looking for, does it not?
[19:11] <stodorovic> erUSUL: I am tempted to try it on my laptop - I sorta need to do some tests on a laptop at work tomorrow so it could be useful to know just how painful it would be
[19:11] <{g}> _blackwater_: maybe. i will try it next time. thank you!
[19:12] <sp0spo> if i copy a hard link  does the full size of the file get copied or just a link to the location?
[19:12] <erUSUL> stodorovic: why do you want to avoid initramfs ?
[19:12] <_blackwater_> {g} wpasupplicant uses syslog for connection status.
[19:12] <usser> sp0spo: full size
[19:12] <Pici> sp0spo: I would expect the full file to be copied. /me checks
[19:13] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, you there?
[19:13] <stodorovic> erUSUL: I dont like it. Plus I don't want to step on ubuntu's toes since it will probably overwrite all bootup settings when it gets an upgrade
[19:13] <erUSUL> stodorovic: i do ; make ; make install ; make modules_install ; mkinitrmfs -o ... ; sudo update-grub
[19:13] <{g}> sp0spo: you mean with the "cp somefile"? that will copy the file. there really is no difference between a "hardlink" and a "file" every file is a hardlink.
[19:13] <erUSUL> stodorovic: it allways works (tm)
[19:13] <mark1> psycho_oreos, yea
[19:13] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, I'm presuming because of the deps were interweaved, so when you removed kubuntu-desktop, it may have removed alot of deps, even at those not really related (like very remotely)
[19:14] <psycho_oreos> mark1, wrong person, lol what was your issue? I somewhat lost track
[19:14] <dominicdinada> Sorry to correct you I removed WINE... and added Kubuntu-Desktop
[19:14] <stodorovic> erUSUL: thanks- i'll take a look in a minute - on pjhone now
[19:14] <Ar|stote|is> Anyone has tried ubuntu with the Asus EEE t101mt ?
[19:14] <dreyk> im here
[19:15] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, well I'm not sure, the configs somewhere or something is messed up.. and what's wrong with using b43 anyway?
[19:15] <mark1> psycho_oreos, haha thats so funny how your response made applied to my question, nah if you busy its chilled
[19:15] <mapu> Good afternoon- am trying to upgrade to 10.4 from 9.10 using 'do-release-upgrade -d' and keep getting WARNING: Failed to read mirror file and server overloade
[19:15] <Pici> mapu : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[19:15] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, ok do you have a terminal running with that scim-launcher? if not, don't run it
[19:15] <dominicdinada> it has never worked I spent months trying each and every TUT that I found regarding using the b43 cutter
[19:16] <dreyk> i only have that terminal open where i got the output from
[19:16] <cage_raphel> Hello Everyone..
[19:16] <oslo> salut all
[19:16] <dominicdinada> Never Ever Ever Ever worked I finally wiped the distro and added the drivers
[19:16] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, though I'm sure its generally a case with rfkill if something is not making that card work with b43, as with ndiswrapper I have no clue :)
[19:17] <cage_raphel> i am using Ubuntu 9.1 and my menu.lst  file is empty..
[19:17] <mark1> does anyone know how to share a ntfs harddrive over the network with write permissions ?? :)
[19:17] <cage_raphel> pls help!
[19:17] <dreyk> so shall i close that window or not?
[19:17] <CaptainTrek> mark1: samba?
[19:18] <Ar|stote|is> is there anyone from italy here?
[19:18] <dominicdinada> Sigh Well if you have any solid ideas to get it working beside all the damn useless time wasting tutorial pages I am game I have 5 driver packages and tried eachone seperatly over time with no avail
[19:18] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, ok, do this (without quotes) "for i in `ps -A| grep scim| awk '{FS=" "; print $1}'`; do kill $i; done"
[19:18] <mark1> CaptainTrek, i have samba and i am able ot share it but for some reason i cant take off the read only restriction
[19:19] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, well I don't have exactly that chipset but I never had an issue getting b43 to work (I have one broadcom chipset on a pcmcia card, bcm4318)
[19:19] <dominicdinada> Followed Tutorial pages sometimes 20 pages deep trouble shooting each of other users encounters :P
[19:19] <dominicdinada> hmmm
[19:19] <dreyk> bash: kill: (12482) - Operation not permitted
[19:19] <dominicdinada> isnt your driver package the same one as mine ?
[19:20] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, yeah its an issue with broadcrap honestly, their conceited bunch and hence the drivers were reverse engineered do that they work on linux, but of course not always a perfect solution
[19:20] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, I'd say so, dunno which distro you have running
[19:20] <_pg_> ssh/vnc is hard guys
[19:20] <dominicdinada> if what you say is true and what i am seeing that now i notice my hardware button on the laptop is off but when I press it nothing happens how do i go about bypassing and turning the button on via conf
[19:21] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, hmm hang on
[19:21] <dominicdinada> 9.10
[19:21] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, ok, do this (without quotes) "for i in `ps -A| grep scim| awk '{FS=" "; print $1}'`; do sudo kill $i; done"
[19:21] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, ahh I'm using 9.04, which shouldn't be too much of a difference either way
[19:22] <dreyk> 1 2dreyk@dreyk-laptop:~$ ps -A| grep scim 12482 ?        00:00:00 scim-launcher
[19:22] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, well normally the laptop button would light up if its bios controlled, but it sounds like its software/kernel controlled.. meaning its on the OS level not the hardware level
[19:22] <dreyk> this time theres only one scim launcher left
[19:22] <dominicdinada> Broadcrap or not Broadcom was one the most popular wifi chipsets/ cards when WIFI first started out. WHY all Distros dont package the drivers, is Assanine
[19:23] <_pg_> are there any easy guides /docs to ssh and vnc and all that stuff? I am pretty lost on the whole thing
[19:23] <psycho_oreos> ok "sudo kill 12482"
[19:23] <dominicdinada> ok
[19:23] <dreyk> was that for me?
[19:23] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, in fact broadcom never was popular, never was never is.. Intersil was the actual popular one till they got bought out by conexant
[19:23] <dreyk> psycho_oreas, that command for me?
[19:23] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, yes that sudo kill command
[19:24] <dreyk>  ok done. no more scim launcher
[19:24] <Traveler> what hour is going 10.04 is going to be released?
[19:25] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, and the drivers were included as of >=2.6.26 via mac80211 framework and now integrated into kernel.. however the firmware is still proprietary part of broadcom
[19:25] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > Traveler
[19:25] <dominicdinada> from what i remember from the advent of wireless networking Broadcom was most popular maybe not in the *nix community but I have about 15 different cards which the majority use boradcom
[19:25] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, ok "/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher &"
[19:25] <t3mp3st> Hi all; I'm trying to add a printer by connecting it directly to my laptop's ethernet port. I'm not sure how to proceed from there; any advice?
[19:25] <boss> hmm
[19:26] <dominicdinada> brb
[19:26] <Traveler> what hour is going 10.04 is going to be released?
[19:26] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, probably they're cheap that's why they're commonly used, sure popular because they're everywhere but their support is shoddy, there was never once a driver written for linux initially and now even with their wl, it supports less than a handful of broadcom chipsets
[19:27] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > Traveler
[19:27] <psycho_oreos> stop asking the same questions
[19:27] <Traveler> !lucid
[19:27] <Traveler> thanks
[19:27] <piotrek> hi
[19:28] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, do you get any icons?
[19:28] <Dr-Ubuntu> What would be the best and easiest tool to make a good image of your linux partition preferable including mbr?
[19:28] <dreyk> it says starting but still no icon
[19:28] <Rudd-O> Dr-Ubuntu: if you want to make an image, dd.  if you want the files, rsync
[19:28] <Dr-Ubuntu> thanks
[19:28] <dreyk> launcher is running
[19:28] <psycho_oreos> Dr-Ubuntu, partimage
[19:28] <amereservant> Can a mini install be done from the full install cd?  The mini install disk is missing the necessary drivers for my network card, so it won't work.
[19:29] <m0RrE> amereservant: no, i've tried
[19:29] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, very weird, I've just tested that on mine and it worked, instead of the icon for scim I get the keyboard
[19:29] <m0RrE> amereservant: if you however get it to work in some random way, plz tell me. :P
[19:29] <FirstSgt> Ok, I followed the instructions here: http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling and it works.  How do I do vpn over the ssh reversed?
[19:29] <amereservant> m0RrE, Dang.  I was afraid of that.  I have no idea how to find the driver it needs to make the mini install work.
[19:30] <dreyk> yeah i dont even get the keyboard icon on my panel
[19:30] <dominicdinada> psycho_oreos: ok well how do I go about working on my hardware buttons assuming that is the problem then
[19:30] <dreyk> its really weird its making me crazy
[19:31] <FirstSgt> I have ubuntu server with no desktop env.  is there a way to copy/paste?
[19:31] <FirstSgt> I know screen has a "copy mode"
[19:32] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, I wouldn't worry about that honestly, that could very well be something to do with led_cfg which is part of linux kernel and you'd need programming knowledge.. I'd get b43 working first and then if all goes well you get that led light to work, otherwise its not of a big deal
[19:32] <usser> FirstSgt: ssh server + remoting into the box through gui
[19:32] <dreyk> i dont want to give up on linux just because of that ... :(
[19:32] <dominicdinada> the b43 cutter is already installed grrrrrrrr
[19:33] <psycho_oreos> dreyk, looking through the scim help files, here are some pointers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods/SCIM/Setup and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[19:33] <jtoft> exit
[19:34] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, check under /lib/firmware/ to see if there's a directory called b43, if so, check in there to see if there's files ending with .fw
[19:34] <dreyk> alright ill try my best, thank you for your help. apreciate that
[19:34] <ctizz> hello I need help wth uhuntu 9.10. what irc client can be install on ubuntu 9.10?
[19:34] <dreyk> have a good day
[19:35] <Scunizi> FirstSgt: hilight the text you want to copy.. move to the location you want to place it and either middle mouse click or right+left click at the same time
[19:35] <psycho_oreos> dreyk: it shouldn't be of an issue with that config...
[19:35] <psycho_oreos> ahh he left :/
[19:35] <WXZ> ctizz
[19:35] <WXZ> I use pidgin
[19:35] <ctizz> pidgin can be install on unbuntu?
[19:35] <psycho_oreos> ctizz, any linux compatible irc client can be installed
[19:35] <ctizz> let me download
[19:35] <konrad> nie potrafie po angielsku
[19:35] <bhuvi> ctizz: you can use xchat or pidgin
[19:35] <dominicdinada> in the b43 dir there is about 20 fw files
[19:35] <psycho_oreos> !pl | konrad
[19:35] <ctizz> I download xchat already
[19:36] <ctizz> but not know how to install
[19:36] <ctizz> it is not easy like installing on windows
[19:36] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, ok so that's good, that's the main part down, its now a matter of making sure ndiswrapper is not loaded and loading b43
[19:36] <Scunizi> ctizz: Pidgin for IM and xchat for IRC.. let the programs do best what they were designed for.
[19:36] <h00k> ctizz: go to Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center and you can install from there
[19:36] <dominicdinada> ok ?
[19:36] <ctizz> oh nice thanks
[19:36] <bhuvi> ctizz: you dont have to download from the web just install it from the software center in ubuntu
[19:36] <ctizz> let me try
[19:37] <dominicdinada> Ctizz: also get the debain package manager it makes installing some packages alot easier
[19:37] <ctizz> oh it has a built in?
[19:37] <hjkls> hi there
[19:37] <hjkls> i can't boot on pc
[19:37] <Scunizi> ctizz: or in a terminal... sudo apt-get install pidgin xchat ... and it will install both
[19:37] <hjkls> i got grub problem
[19:37] <hjkls> how to solve it
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> ctizz: you dont need to download anything most of the time (through brwoser i mean), use one of the software centers
[19:37] <hjkls> now i m from the live cd
[19:37] <DelphiWorld> hi dears
[19:37] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, lsmod| grep ndiswrapper
[19:37] <Scunizi> !grub2 > hjkls
[19:37] <DelphiWorld> please how do i add a default route?
[19:38] <DelphiWorld> i have eth0 and eth0:1
[19:38] <psycho_oreos> DelphiWorld, route add default gw <ip>
[19:38] <WXZ> ok, I've figured out how to run tomboy from terminal
[19:38] <WXZ> but how would I open a certain note from terminal
[19:38] <dominicdinada> diabolical@diabolical:/lib/firmware/b43$ lsmod|grep ndiswrapper
[19:38] <dominicdinada> ndiswrapper           185532  0
[19:38] <WXZ> or atleast how would I find out how to open a certain note (it's not on google)
[19:38] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[19:39] <paris> Hi folks, I have installed Skype and it says "P2P connect failed' What I should do?
[19:39] <gmatt> how do i figure out if i am using opengl?
[19:39] <DelphiWorld> psycho_oreos: but no dev?
[19:39] <ctizz> thanks for telling me the steps :)
[19:39] <ctizz> I will be here for help again :) when I have problem
[19:39] <DelphiWorld> psycho_oreos: also please please and aguin please PM me the command because there is a lot of trafic in channel here
[19:39] <ctizz> :)
[19:39]  * DelphiWorld using a screen reader
[19:39] <ctizz> thanks so much
[19:39] <piju> QST: calling all ham radio operator to join us at #ubuntu-hams
[19:39] <psycho_oreos> DelphiWorld, it doesn't go through dev, it goes through IP for that command, there might be ways to go through dev but I wouldn't know off my head
[19:39] <dominicdinada> diabolical@diabolical:/lib/firmware/b43$ sudo modprobe -r nidwrapper
[19:39] <dominicdinada> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[19:39] <dominicdinada> FATAL: Module nidwrapper not found.
[19:39] <Scunizi> piju: cool
[19:40] <piju> Scunizi; we do have a launchpad
[19:40] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, you mistyped and you can safely ignore that .conf warning
[19:40] <acicula> dominicdinada: ndis
[19:40] <brontosaurusrex> WXZ: tomboy --open-note pipes
[19:40] <dominicdinada> opps
[19:40] <stodorovic> just one launchpad?
[19:40] <FirstSgt> I really want to know how to send out a vpn connection... I have my ssh reverse bind working, i just need reverse vpn
[19:40] <brontosaurusrex> WXZ: where 'pipes' is a note name
[19:41] <WXZ> alright
[19:41] <brontosaurusrex> WXZ: also 'man tomboy' may give you some clues
[19:41] <acicula> FirstSgt: host a vpn server and have a vpn client connect to it?
[19:41] <WXZ> in google?
[19:41] <dominicdinada> ok I got that taken care of
[19:41] <gmatt> what is the terminal command to see if i am using opengl?
[19:41] <brontosaurusrex> WXZ: in terminal
[19:41] <WXZ> i see
[19:41] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, sudo modprobe b43
[19:42] <EdgEy> Is there any multi-threaded h.264 codec I can install? I've just installed fglrx to try and get x264 to playback more smoothly and it hasn't helped, checked the driver is actually running etc
[19:42] <acicula> EdgEy: dont think so
[19:42] <EdgEy> VLC only uses 1 core
[19:42] <dominicdinada> ok
[19:42] <WXZ> can I use the man command
[19:42] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, now I'll need you to pastebin me again your dmesg output
[19:42] <WXZ> for most applications?
[19:42] <acicula> you can do hardware accelerated decoding, but not sure if it works with ati, and probably only works with mplayer?
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> gmatt: i use inxi -G
[19:43] <dominicdinada> now all of a sudden my Wireless hardware button has its light on
[19:43] <h00k> WXZ: yep
[19:43] <Matterco> I am installing 10.04 on an new Intel Mac Mini. The install has been taking over an hour. The last 45 minutes has been on the purple haze screen with the mouse cursor only. The cursor oscillates between a pointer and the spinning icon. Is this to be expected? Or is the installation hung?
[19:43] <WXZ> yayyy
[19:43] <psycho_oreos> WXZ, yes it'll just call up manual pages if it exists
[19:43] <WXZ> this is useful
[19:43] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, I'd consider that a bonus :P anyway the important part is to get b43 working
[19:44] <dominicdinada> ok
[19:44] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > Matterco
[19:44] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, so again :) needing dmesg output into pastebin or at least the last 30 lines
[19:44] <FirstSgt> here is my problem.  first sentense in the abstract: http://www.freshpatents.com/-dt20091203ptan20090300721.php
[19:45] <Andorin> I can reformat a Seagate portable hard drive from its default file system to ext3 with gparted and it will work fine, right?
[19:45] <acicula> EdgEy: actually seems mplayer/ffmpeg should use more cores
[19:45] <FirstSgt> I've got the reverse shell to work
[19:45] <dominicdinada> yes just got it
[19:46] <EdgEy> acicula I am reading there is a fork of ffmpeg that is multithreaded but I might need to compile it
[19:46] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, you should now be able to scan networks, it loaded the firmware without errors, but is being interrupted most likely by a process called network manager
[19:46] <acicula> EdgEy: may be possible
[19:46] <dominicdinada> ok
[19:46] <chadi> when exactly is the release tomorrow? what timezone are you based on?
[19:46] <EdgEy> going to look into that, atm I can't play high bitrate videos smoothly on my system and it's hardly underpowered
[19:46] <antivirtel> hello all, is that any calculator, what can calculate days between 2 defined dates ? Win7 has this part, is it possible on ubuntu
[19:46] <antivirtel> ?
[19:46] <acicula> EdgEy: since H.264 is not a free encoding system,
[19:47] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > chadi
[19:47] <chadi> psycho_oreos thank you
[19:47] <amereservant> Anyone else having any issues with the full 64-bit install iso image?
[19:47] <psycho_oreos> chadi, np
[19:48] <amereservant> I get "Invalid or corrupt kernel image"
[19:48] <jrib> amereservant: what version of ubuntu is this?
[19:48] <amereservant> 10.04
[19:48] <jrib> amereservant: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[19:48] <amereservant> Woops, wrong channel.
[19:50] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: how can you tell its only using one core?
[19:50] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, using top or system monitor
[19:50] <psycho_oreos> via top I suppose
[19:50] <EdgEy> it pegs one core at 100% and the others are at 5%
[19:50] <AcEPreSaw> Top is good
[19:50] <EdgEy> and stutters in high action scenes
[19:50] <AcEPreSaw> lol
[19:50] <AcEPreSaw> helo room
[19:50] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: let me try with smplayer gui thingy....
[19:51] <AcEPreSaw> Heloo Room"!!"!"!"
[19:51] <EdgEy> I'll try smplayer first, since it seems that's what i'd need to use ffmpeg-mt
[19:51] <EdgEy> Was previously using VLC
[19:51] <AcePreshaw> !help
[19:51] <AcEPreSaw> ok
[19:51] <AcEPreSaw> heloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[19:52] <LoRez> AcEPreSaw: don't do that.
[19:52] <AcEPreSaw> soz
[19:52] <AcEPreSaw> z
[19:52] <AcEPreSaw> cna chat  here
[19:52] <dominicdinada> psycho_oreos: ok another problem I took somebodies advice trying the Wicd network package and I didnt like it so removed it and reinstalled the default gnome manager but I also installed the gnome network manager framework also and I am not getting the screen to configure or scan networks I do however see the option to connect to a hidden network. Shall I reboot ?
[19:53] <Azelphur> !ot | AcePres
[19:53] <acicula> its an ubuntu support channel, you can chat in ubuntu-offtopic or defocus
[19:53] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, no need to reboot, try right clicking on network manager icon and then click on enable wireless
[19:54] <dominicdinada> It is enabled under the checkbox
[19:55] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: http://imagebin.ca/view/o1p4jf.html <- i doubt i have multithreaded version of mplayer thought, unless this is the deault nowadays
[19:55] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, I just installed smplayer and that varies, it swaps between cores, but it still doesn't use more than 100%
[19:55] <mark1> anyone have knowledge about sharing harddrives on ubuntu ?
[19:56] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, sounds like there's definitely another process interfering, check the last few lines of dmesg along with the paste that you sent me last in regards to b43 and see if the same message still appears on the last line (i.e. no new log entries)
[19:56] <switchgirl> !dns-google
[19:56] <CuBrA-> will ubuntu satanic edition be updated with the new release ?
[19:56] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: my vlc also seems to use both cores, so ....
[19:57] <aguitel_> i like ubuntu drakula edition
[19:57] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, well, do you have a high bitrate video to try?
[19:57] <h00k> CuBrA-: that isn't a supported variant, you will have to check with their support
[19:57] <EdgEy> I can play 720p fine
[19:57] <dominicdinada> shall i paste the 7 or so lines in private to you psycho?
[19:57] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, I'd much prefer you to use pastebin for that instead of pasting into the query window.. but no, that's not what I want
[19:57] <EdgEy> I have a 15mbit 1080p video that just struggles on every high movement scene and caps one core
[19:57] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: its 1280x720, 24p
[19:57] <dominicdinada> I ran iwconfig long before i got the dmesg ill pastebin it
[19:57] <vamadir> where  is ubuntu lucid
[19:58] <vamadir> ??
[19:58] <Slart> mark1: sharing hard drives? not just files?
[19:58] <h00k> !lucid | vam
[19:58] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, no I want you to compare the difference of the last 7 lines of what you've pasted to me in regards to that dmesg output you sent last and the current status of your dmesg
[19:58] <h00k> !lucid | vamadir ^
[19:58] <isangaft> hey, can someone tell me how to disable the XServer in Ubuntu 9.10?
[19:58] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, no need for that
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: i didnt bother with full hd, since i dont have a monitor on this machine to go that high
[19:58] <dominicdinada> ok it appears to be the same
[19:58] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, ah :/
[19:58] <dominicdinada> link is still not ready
[19:58] <muzy> aloha
[19:58] <mark1> Slart, well i suppose or files it doesnt really matter
[19:59] <muzy> when is the 10.4 release?
[19:59] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, lol, there's an option in settings
[19:59] <EdgEy> Threads for decoding
[19:59] <muzy> or what is the time ;)
[19:59] <Flare-Laptop> !lucid | muzy
[19:59] <isangaft> hey, can someone tell me how to disable the XServer in Ubuntu 9.10? GDM's not in the rcX.d directories and it still starts automatically
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: in vlc or smplayer?
[19:59] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, hmm there's definitely some other process interfering it, pastebin (not paste) your ps -A output
[19:59] <vamadir> where  is ubuntu 10??
[19:59] <EdgEy> smplayer
[19:59] <muzy> well Flare-Laptop i know it is today
[19:59] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > vamadir
[19:59] <Slart> mark1: there are lots of options.. you can use nfs (easiest with other linux boxes, has some security concerns) or samba to talk to windows computers
[19:59] <muzy> I just woner about the time zone
[19:59] <psycho_oreos> !repeat | vamadir
[19:59] <Flare-Laptop> muzy: wrong, its not. its tomorrow
[19:59] <Flare-Laptop> :P
[20:00] <muzy> Flare-Laptop: depends where you are
[20:00] <acicula> today is already tomorrow depending on where you are
[20:00] <Flare-Laptop> muzy: GMT says tomorrow
[20:00] <psycho_oreos> muzy #ubuntu+1 for ALL 10.04 discussions thanks
[20:00] <vamadir> but nw is 29
[20:00] <vamadir> but now is 29
[20:00] <vamadir> but now is 29
[20:00] <muzy> okay psycho_oreos
[20:00] <mark1> Slart, yea im busy using samba and i can share the harddrive, but for some reason i cant share it with write permissions
[20:00] <psycho_oreos> vamadir, it WILL be released WHEN its ready
[20:00] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, what system monitor are you using there? looks like top but more readable
[20:00] <antivirtel> is there any calculator, what can calculate days between 2 defined dates ? Win7 has this part, is it possible on ubuntu ?
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: htop
[20:00] <ubutom2> her is 28th :P
[20:01] <ubutom2> *e
[20:01] <h00k> !lucid | everyone, this channel is not yet for Lucid discussion
[20:01] <Oer> antivirtel, OO-calc ?
[20:01] <Slart> mark1: that's just a configuration thing.. or a permissions thing..I can't help you with specifics but make sure you've got the actual permissions on the files setup properly.. as well as the connection permissions in samba.. both need to allow writing or it won't work
[20:01] <Slart> !samba | mark1
[20:02] <lalalol> can nautilus show GiB instead of GB?
[20:02] <josh_k> can anyone recommend a tutorial on the new launcher system (e.g. stop/start/restart)?
[20:02] <vamadir> what clock in ubuntu web page?
[20:02] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, strange, I've set it to use 4 threads and htop still only shows one, sigh, i'll fiddle with it a bit more
[20:02] <josh_k> I'm getting fails and unsure where/how it's logging anything
[20:02] <vamadir> what clock in ubuntu web page? grinvich?
[20:02] <acicula> !upstart
[20:02] <antivirtel> Oer... different, is there any date built-in calculator program, or only this method ?
[20:03] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: i think smplayer will use system mplayer, so maybe update/replace that one, remember smplayer is only a gui
[20:03] <acicula> i just use service foobar {stop,start,restart}
[20:03] <josh_k> acicula: and when it just hangs
[20:03] <josh_k> what do you do?
[20:03] <h00k> vamadir: it will be out when they release it. nobody knows.
[20:03] <acicula> check syslog
[20:03] <josh_k> I'm not seeing jack in the service logs or syslog
[20:03] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, do you have aother wireless card?
[20:03] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex, did you do anything special or just install mplayer and smplayer?
[20:03] <Slart> vamadir: I don't think they will wait until the clock passes twelve and then release it.. just wait 3 hours.. check their website.. wait 3 more hours.. check again.. repeat until released
[20:03] <josh_k> it's supposed to go into syslog?
[20:03] <dominicdinada> not connected or internally
[20:03] <Andorin> I can reformat a Seagate portable hard drive from its default file system to ext3 with gparted and it will work fine, right?
[20:03] <acicula> depends on the script you are starting
[20:03] <mark1> Slart, thanks, but its kinda a trouble shooting problem, cause i know what to do its just not working, and i have a feeling cause its a ntfs hard drive, i just dont know how to fix it
[20:03] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, ok and you're using wired I presume right?
[20:03] <dominicdinada> But I have 4 others that I have used before
[20:03] <h00k> vamadir: /join #ubuntu+1
[20:04] <Slart> vamadir: or go to #ubuntu-release-party.. there you can join other people asking each other the same question
[20:04] <dominicdinada> Correct right now I am Wired
[20:04] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: i dont recally really, i did mess with compiling ffmpeg once or twice, so i'am not really sure in what state things are
[20:04] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, as long as you don't have more than one wireless card hooked up right now and that you're connected through wireless (via another card)
[20:04] <josh_k> acicula: specifically mysql
[20:04] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: mplayer returns 'MPlayer UNKNOWN-4.4.1 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team'
[20:04] <josh_k> (which also isn't getting anything in its logfiles)
[20:04] <josh_k> :\
[20:05] <EdgEy> brontosaurusrex meh i'm just going to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 and hope it works
[20:05] <dominicdinada> No I am connected via ethernet. No other wireless cards connect besides the internal wireless which is the broadcom 4306
[20:05] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, I think the process wpa_supplicant is the culprit, running in background and possibly preventing network manager to work
[20:05] <Slart> vamadir: I'm not sure if ntfs and samba needs something special to work.. sorry
[20:05] <EdgEy> I have no issue with most videos, just bitrate over 8-10mbit or so and my system chokes with lots of motion
[20:05] <dominicdinada> How do I fix the problem. No networks i use has wpa
[20:05] <josh_k> awesomely the word "logfile" is not in the wiki
[20:06] <dominicdinada> of course I could kill the process but it will still be a problem later on
[20:06] <josh_k> or mysql
[20:06] <iceroot> josh_k: /var/log/daemon.log
[20:06] <brontosaurusrex> EdgEy: your best bet is to use/find some dvxa method, but this will only work for some files, or install some other OS, which can use coreavc or similarly fast software decoders
[20:07] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, well if its a problem later on I suppose you can remove the program but its probably not ideal
[20:07] <dominicdinada> the winbind could also be the problem
[20:07] <Slart> sorry vamadir, wrong nick
[20:07] <Slart> mark1: I'm not sure if ntfs and samba needs something special to work.. sorry
[20:07] <iceroot> josh_k: and if you have problems starting mysql run "mysql --help" and search for debug/verbos and start it in that mode by calling mysql -v  or mysql-d (have a look at the help)
[20:08] <psycho_oreos> I think winbind runs on a higher networking level but for the time being I suspect wpa_supplicant is the main culprit into not making network manager to work
[20:08] <josh_k> iceroot: that's a good idea, thx
 its ok
[20:08] <melvin> Hello. i have a little weird problem after upgrading to 10.04. nm-applet doesn't communicate with gnome-keyring-daemon anymore. it works by creating a new profile. but i don't want to do this. what change on the profile is needed? ssh-add works
[20:08] <h00k> !lucid | melvin
[20:08] <Slart> melvin: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:09] <dominicdinada> blah i sudo kill 1135 (wpa-supplicant) now it shows networks but when i get to the screen to enter password i enter the password and the connect button never changes from being greyed out
[20:09] <Pres-Gas> I have an nvidia quadro nvs 295 card that is not supported in nouveau at the moment, is there a way to have the 10.04 installer force the nv drivers or do I need to blacklist nouveau?
[20:09] <iceroot> Pres-Gas: #ubuntu+1
[20:09] <vamadir> aAAAAAAAAAAAAA now i using lucid beta 2
[20:09] <iceroot> vamadir: #ubuntu+1
[20:10] <Pres-Gas> Thanks, iceroot
[20:10] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, hmm check to see if wpa_supplicant is running again
[20:10] <DeadmanIncJS> hi guys
[20:10] <melvin> @h00k ok
[20:10] <dominicdinada> yes it is running again PID 3089
[20:11] <DeadmanIncJS> can't wait for tomorrow... 10.04! :D
[20:11] <iceroot> DeadmanIncJS: #ubuntu+1
[20:11] <DeadmanIncJS> what is that
[20:11] <h00k> !party
[20:11] <dominicdinada>  3089 ?        00:00:00 wpa_supplicant
[20:11] <DeadmanIncJS> oh ok
[20:11] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, ok pastebin your "pstree -p" output
[20:14] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, hmm crap, it could be either an unclean process kill from before or somehow its setup differently, the whole process is re-init by init itself (somewhat bad news)
[20:14] <dominicdinada> Let me reboot I will be right back
[20:15] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, there are dirty hacks that I have which you can try
[20:15] <MookyMoo> I saw somebody on the bus today with an Ubuntu Hat. Made me smile alot!
[20:15] <dominicdinada> yes please send them to me ?
[20:15] <mikc> Hi, let me explain my problem. Lots of of programs installed on ubuntu 9.10 on my machine just won't start, yelling libXXXXX.so.X : Invalid ELF header, where XXXXX is pciaccess in the case of Xorg, magic in the case of the command file, and sigc in the case of aptitude. Ideas?
[20:16] <barberan> mikc: virus
[20:16] <dominicdinada> Also I just checked my startup and even though i removed the Wcid packages they seem to still be installed
[20:16] <paris> Big thanks folks, I was able to figure out.
[20:16] <mikc> barberan: why?
[20:16] <dominicdinada> at least in the Startup
[20:16] <Slart> mikc: plain ubuntu install? no extra repositories? hard drive ok?
[20:16] <iceroot> mikc: of course its not a virus
[20:16] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, "cd && pkill {dhclient,wpa_supplicant} && mv -v `which wpa_supplicant` $PWD"
[20:16] <dominicdinada> ok I will give that a go in a moment
[20:17] <psycho_oreos> dominicdinada, its most likely because you were connected using wireless and so the package wasn't removed cleanly I suspect
[20:17] <Slart> barberan: virus? just as a one word diagnose? not even a name for the virus?
[20:17] <mikc> plain install, maybe wine repo, on a USB flash drive, up to date (updated yesterday)
[20:17] <dominicdinada> let me run janitor/reboot
[20:17] <dominicdinada> i will be right back
[20:17] <mikc> behind a firewall, and I use it not often
[20:17] <Slart> mikc: hmm.. the wine repository should be ok.. what version of ubuntu?
[20:17] <mikc> Slart: 9.10
[20:18] <mikc> Slart: I'm lucky, irssi starts ;-)
[20:18] <Sayag_Samuel> hello :) when will 10.04 will be out ? it's spouse to be today ?!
[20:18] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > Sayag_Samuel
[20:19] <Slart> mikc: I don't know of any software process that causes those errors.. I would start checking the hardware.. drives/memory etc
[20:19] <mikc> In case, I tried reinstalling the offendinf pacjages
[20:19] <Slart> Sayag_Samuel: ask in #ubuntu-release-part
[20:19] <mikc> Just the same errors
[20:19] <owner> mikc: see hardware
[20:19] <mikc> Slart: My gentoo works perfectly
[20:19] <psycho_oreos> talk about off topic
[20:19] <Slart> mikc: what does "sudo apt-get update" return? can you pastebin?
[20:20] <psycho_oreos> :)
[20:20] <mikc> Slart: howto pastebin in console?
[20:20] <mikc> Slart: I am up to date
[20:20] <arand> /usr/lib/libmagic.so.1 is part of package libmagic1... I would guess that reinstalling a bunch _might_ make it better...
[20:20] <Slart> mikc: oh.. you can install pastebinit ;)
[20:20] <psycho_oreos> !pastebinit | mike
[20:20] <Slart> mikc: nevermind.. I'm just joking..
[20:20] <nicor_93> hi
[20:21] <Slart> mikc: does apt-get work at all? or it fails as well?
[20:21] <mikc> apt-get works (happily)
[20:21] <arand> mikc: eqiuvalently for the packages libsigc++-2.0-0c2a and libpciaccess0
[20:21] <Slart> mikc: oh.. then sudp apt-get install pastebinit   should do it
[20:21] <chopin> hey folks ... what -time- will 10.04 be available?  i assume it's not 0:00 GMT
[20:22] <Slart> chopin: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[20:22] <chopin> Slart: thanks
[20:22] <mikc> Slart: yes, I am tryin to figure out how it works
[20:22] <usr13> chopin: We do not know
[20:22] <Slart> mikc: you run some command     blabla bla bla -blala | pastebinit    and it will give you an url..
[20:22] <arand> mikc: Unfortunately, pastebinit doesn't work with current pastebin.com, you need to specify -b other pastebin
[20:22] <jimmy51_> the "Virtual Machine Host" listed in the ubuntu server install..... what VM tech is that?  VirtualBox?
[20:23] <mikc> Slart: well, other idea,  what are you looking for in the update ?
[20:23] <Slart> mikc: what urls it's checking
[20:23] <psycho_oreos> jimmy51_, most likely vbox
[20:24] <Slart> mikc: just to see if it's the normal repos.. or if there is anything weird in that list
[20:24] <mikc> Slart: fr.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com
[20:24] <mikc> Slart: I compiled wine myselft
[20:25] <Parsi> i've HP dv6-2190 notebook, can i install ubuntu on it? HP support says we don't warranty if you install linux
[20:25] <Slart> mikc: hmm.. those shouldn't be a problem
[20:25] <Travis-42> Is there any way to get xvidcap to stay on the workspace that it's running in, rather than follow me when I switch workspaces?
[20:26] <mikc> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424177
[20:26] <mikc> Slart: got it ;-)
[20:26] <jimmy51_> psycho_oreos: thanks
[20:26] <psycho_oreos> Parsi, you can, you just won't get support from HP, and if their technicians find out you're running linux you'll probably void our warranty
[20:27] <psycho_oreos> jimmy51_, np
[20:27] <arand> mikc: I would try: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libmagic1 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libpciaccess0" At least for those particular missing libs.
[20:27] <Slart> mikc: you're running from some recovery shell at the moment, no?
[20:27] <psycho_oreos> Parsi, s/our/their
[20:27] <djbeenie_> hey guys, my sound just quit working, it looks like my snd models are still up
[20:27] <mikc> arand: already done apt-get remove libxxxxxx && apt-get install libxxxxx
[20:27] <Parsi> psycho_oreos: they said you'll got into problem for recovery
[20:27] <coz_> djbeenie_,  what where you doing w
[20:28] <mikc> Slart: I am in consolen, Xorg won't start
[20:28] <coz_> djbeenie_,   what were you doing when it stopped?
[20:28] <djbeenie_> coz_ not sure just now noticed
[20:28] <coz_> mikc,  how are you trying to start it?
[20:28] <djbeenie_> possibly vmware running
[20:28] <mikc> Slart: even no framebuffer, coz NVIDIA prop drivers instralled
[20:28] <psycho_oreos> Parsi, huh? you meant you'll go into problem if you go into recovery? what the software recovery?
[20:28] <coz_> djbeenie_,  mm maybe restart x and see if it comes back
[20:28] <arand> mikc: And still persist claiming that the lib doesn't exist? hmm...
[20:28] <djbeenie_> coz_ i can try that
[20:29] <Parsi> psycho_oreos: HP recovery
[20:29] <Andorin> I can reformat a Seagate portable hard drive from its default file system to ext3 with gparted and it will work fine, right?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[20:29] <Slart> mikc: hmm.. not really sure what to try then.. can't say I've even heard of these kind of problems before
[20:29] <Slart> Andorin: yes
[20:29] <mikc> coz_: /etc/init.d/gdm start, or, Xorg -retro , or startx -- :1 all will fail bc of the messed up libs
[20:29] <invernizzi> question: is the plymouth problem with nvidia proprietary drivers solved? Is there a clear set of steps to follow? Thanks
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: sure, it will sdestroy the data on the partition
[20:29] <Slart> Andorin: you'll loose their included tools though.. not that it's any loss but still
[20:29] <Parsi> psycho_oreos: now i've 3 partitions on my hdd, two of them are for HP
[20:29] <mikc> Slart: so I  should go for a reinstall... great.
[20:29] <psycho_oreos> Parsi, yeah assuming its software recovery, if there's issues there you can still I suppose somewhat rest it back to normal
[20:29]  * Andorin nods
[20:30] <arand> !lucid | invernizzi
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Invrnizzi: works fine here
[20:30] <coz_> mikc,   try  a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   see if anything needs installed
[20:30] <psycho_oreos> Parsi, s/rest/reset
[20:30] <Andorin> The drive came as ntfs and for some reason gparted has a problem reading it, so it can't partition the drive or anything. Not cool.
[20:30] <incorrect> i am using the libvirt plugin and its great, just one problem i have more vm's than i do memory of cpu, is there a way to limit how many nodes hudson will bring up at once?
[20:30] <arand> mikc: If you check for the files /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libpciaccess.so.0 /usr/lib/libmagic.so.1  do they exist?
[20:30] <mikc> coz_: nothing more
[20:31] <Travis-42> is there a screencapturing/screencasting utility that will record video from a workspace that is not currently visible (i.e. from workspace 1 when I switch to workspace 2)?
[20:31] <coz_> Andorin,  you could  burn  Dban and write zeros to that drive   I bet it can be partitioned after that
[20:31] <Slart> mikc: well.. if I was having problems running basic software I would start considering which takes more time.. finding out what the problem is or just reinstalling =/
[20:31] <Andorin> Also, is it at all possible to partition a USB device, install the files necessary to run an Ubuntu live environment to one of the partitions, and boot from that?
[20:31] <kimi_21> Why there is no Jdownloader on Ubuntu add/remove ?
[20:31] <coz_> mikc,   mmmm   I am not sure then unless you know how to use aptitude to recover but I am not sure how to effectively do that
[20:31] <jiffe1> so I'm trying to figure something out, I have 2 ubuntu machines with pure-ftpd running through xinetd and using pam, I'm trying to auth a user found in the local passwd file, it works on one but not the other, both machines have the pam.d/pure-ftpd pointing at pam_ldap.so so I'm not sure how this is working at all
[20:31] <quarkup> hey is it true that the new version will be released today?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: coz: or use dd if=/dev/zero ;)
[20:31] <mikc> arand: YES! and I can remove them with the package manager and put them back, and the errors are just _the same_
[20:31] <Slart> Andorin: what kind of hard drive is it?
[20:31] <Slart> quarkup: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[20:31] <mikc> coz_: I cant use aptitude it misses a lib
[20:32] <coz_> Andorin,   you should be able to partition a flash drive yes
[20:32] <Andorin> Slart: Seagate 500GB portable hard drive.
[20:32] <coz_> mikc,   oh man
[20:32] <Slart> Andorin: odd that gparted doesn't see it..
[20:32] <Andorin> coz_: I know that USB media can be partitioned, but I wonder whether it's possible to boot a live environment from a partition.
[20:32] <Andorin> Slart: gparted sees it, but it can't read it correctly and therefore can't really modify it (new partitions, etc).
[20:32] <coz_> Andorin,  mm  good question   ... I would assume the bootable part of the drive should be seen first
[20:32] <arand> mikc: That is indeed very strange... Well I don't have much more suggestions then...
[20:32] <quarkup> Slart: thanks
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: does. : dmesg | tail -n 20 ,show a kerennel reaction if you plug it out then in?
[20:33] <mikc> coz_: Andorin it is what I am currently dooing
[20:33] <coz_> mikc,   is this a fresh install??
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: and does: sudo parted -l ,show the partition?
[20:34] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Yes to both questions.
[20:34] <Ezequiel> I have an Asus EEE 1005HAH and when i cant seem to fix the isue with the multi touch synaptics pad
[20:34] <aaron01> I'm trying to familiarize myself with the new upstart stuff. One problem I'm having is trying to debug some mysql stuff .. but using "start mysql" and such doesn't seem to log anything anywhere... any ideas?
[20:34] <mikc> coz_: a month, I use it once a week, and updated it yesterday
[20:35] <mikc> coz_: and today it does not work anymore
[20:35] <dominicdinada> oh no Now i have no wireless network
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Andorin: cool, then you can use sudo mk2fs.ext3 or whatever to format it in cli.
[20:35] <coz_> mikc,   mm  then I am puzzled...what you could do is visit the ##linux channel to see if anyone has better suggestions
[20:35] <Andorin> ActionParsnip: Right, thanks. (After I'm done backing everything up.)
[20:35] <funflo512> hello
[20:36] <jimmy51_> does ubuntu server play nicely as a HyperV client?
[20:36] <funflo512> i have a problem after a low level hard drive formating
[20:36] <mikc> If the filesystem was screwed up, the errors would appear in the dmesg
[20:36] <kimi_21> Why there is no Jdownloader on Ubuntu add/remove ?
[20:36] <Slart> kimi_21: perhaps noone has packaged it for ubuntu
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Kimi_21: ask in #motu
[20:36] <karol_> hello people
[20:36] <funflo512> hello
[20:36] <mikc> and reinstalling packages would help
[20:37] <kimi_21> #motu ?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Kimi_21: there may be a ppa
[20:37] <switchgirl> i'm using dnsmasq if i change listen-address=127.0.0.1 to listen-address=8.8.8.8 would it cache google public dns ?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> !motu | kim_21
[20:38] <dominicdinada> psycho_oreos: now I have no wireless networks :(
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Switchgirl: not sure but just add 8.8.8.8 to your dns list in network manager etc and you will use localhost first then cache the reply from the google dns.
[20:38] <funflo512> does anybody know how to recognize a low level formatted partition on Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[20:38] <psyk3d> how many minutes to go for lucid???
[20:38] <djbeenie_> can you restart x and not loose my windows open?
[20:38] <coz_> funflo512,  it should be picked up as a blank drive
[20:38] <guntbert> djbeenie_: no
[20:39] <jrib> djbeenie_: no, not really.  But if you really want to muck around, take a look at xpra
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Pyk3d: about 24 hours worth and its discussed in #ubuntu+1
[20:39] <coz_> funflo512,  with which utility did you format this with?
[20:39] <Slart> funflo512: low level formatting? I didn't think that existed any more..
[20:39] <funflo512> i used
[20:39] <Guest35290> cron schedules absolutely, how do I relatively schedule jobs? Like every 2 minutes, instead of ever 4:20AM?
[20:39] <funflo512> dd -if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=G
[20:39] <jrib> Guest35290: cron does that...
[20:39] <jrib> !cron > Guest35290
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest35290: cron does that too
[20:40] <Slart> Guest35290: something like */7 * * *    will run it every 7 minutes, all hours, all days and so on
[20:40] <coz_> funflo512,  ok so you wrote zeros to the drive.... I prefer to use  Dban  which you hav
[20:40] <mikc> funflo512: Use fdisk to put a partition table on your drive
[20:40] <Slart> Guest35290: check man crontab for more examples
[20:40] <coz_>  funflo512  which you have to burn to cd
[20:40] <jrib> Slart: man 5 crontab I guess
[20:40] <coz_> funflo512,  much more effective in my opinion
[20:40] <dominicdinada> Ok can anybody help me with my wireless network psycho_oreos was helping but he seems to be afk
[20:40] <coz_> funflo512,   after which the drive should be recognized as a blank drive
[20:40] <jrib> dominicdinada: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:40] <kimi_21> System monitor and Conky shows that Ubuntu has available 1 GB space for swap. But i had no set a swap space on installation ? Can you help me about it ?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Funflo512: there's also the ultimate boot cd which can invert each bit 7 times and is suitable for the MoD
[20:41] <Ezequiel> has anyone fixed the Issue with the Synaptics Multitouchpad on an Asus EEE PC 1005HA
[20:41] <Slart> jrib: indeed.. ( I had to look it up )  =)
[20:41] <funflo512> i low formatted because some sectors were broken
[20:41] <Guest35290> Slart, why do you have the / ?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Ezequiel: maybe you need the i8086.rest boot option (not sure if its exactly that but something similar)
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Funflo512: lowlever format doesn't always fix stuff. I'd grab a new drive
[20:42] <dominicdinada> ok i am using a Broadcom 4306 and recently we removed my ndiswrapper and got it to detect the driver but it appeared that wpa_supplicant was causing problems so i rebooted and now It does not find any wireless devices
[20:42] <plazia> what's the canonical method for installing flash these days in ubuntu? do you let the browser (firefox) handle it? or use the apt and packaging system?
[20:42] <dominicdinada> I have bwcutter and b43 installed
[20:42] <Azelphur> plazia: either, firefox launches the packaging system
[20:42] <Slart> Guest35290: */5 means any number evenly dividable by 5 ... if you use */5 for the minute field you get something that runs every 5 minutes
[20:42] <plazia> Azelphur, sweet :)
[20:42] <plazia> thanks
[20:43] <Guest35290> Slart, thanks.
[20:43] <Slart> Guest35290: if you open a terminal and write    man 5 crontab    you'll see some examples and explanations
[20:44] <Slart> Guest35290: here's a webpage with the same info http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?crontab+5
[20:44] <dominicdinada> Anybody?
[20:45] <ksx4system> @dominicdinata: ?
[20:47] <zoug> dominicdinada: what went wrong with ndisw?
[20:48] <dominicdinada> sorry doorbell
[20:48] <dominicdinada> ok i am using a Broadcom 4306 and recently we removed my ndiswrapper and got it to detect the driver but it appeared that wpa_supplicant was causing problems so i rebooted and now It does not find any wireless devices
[20:48] <dominicdinada> I have bwcutter and b43 installed
[20:50] <Guest17924> Hi. I have a question
[20:50] <zoug> dominicdinada: what went wrong with ndisw?
[20:51] <Danacrine> whats your ?
[20:51] <Guest17924> When I fast user switch my screen goes black
[20:51] <dominicdinada> to start over I removed wine, and installed kubuntu-desktop and when I did so my wireless went down, so I reinstalled wine, But it still will not reconize my wireless card psycho_oreos and I got it to detect my wireless card but something was causing errors... i rebooted and now my wireless is not reconized again via iwconfig/ifconfig also the hardware button seems to be off again and I am not able to press it to tur
[20:51] <dominicdinada> n it on
 did you restart? does that help
[20:52] <Guest17924> Yes I did
[20:52] <Danacrine> okay... give me sec
[20:52] <t3mp3st> hi everyone; I need a little help -- I'm trying to connect my printer directly via my network card. Is this possible? I don't have a USB cable and my printer has built in ethernet
[20:52] <Guest17924> Oh no that did not help
[20:52] <Guest17924> All sessions are reset
[20:52] <t3mp3st> i.e., [printer NIC] <--- cable --> [laptop NIC]
[20:54] <Scorpio> hi room
[20:54] <Scorpio> I need some helps with this problem I put some extentions on my desktop and don't know how to get them off
[20:55] <frankie_> why does ubuntu come with empathy now instead of pidgin?
[20:56] <ubutom2> t3mp3st, be sure to use a crossover cable
[20:56] <mick__> coz_: I found out what happend to my libs. They are just full of zeroes. I hexdump'ed them and saw that. The files are here, the right size, but full of zeroes.
[20:56] <t3mp3st> ubutom2: the only way that sort of connection can work is with a crossover? ah... i was worried about that
[20:56] <coz_> mick__,  oooo
[20:56] <ubutom2> t3mp3st, yeah, if you dont go through a router it won't work
[20:56] <jimmy51_> can i install KDE on top of ubuntu server without bringing in all the stuff i don't want on a server (amarok, ktorrent, blah blah) ?
[20:56] <Scorpio> How do i get public, videos and downloads off my desktop
[20:56] <t3mp3st> ubutom2: great -- thanks!
[20:57] <Scorpio> ?
[20:57] <mick__> coz_: the package manager just installs crap in my libs.
[20:57] <ubutom2> t3mp3st, np
[20:57] <^Alita> hi to all
[20:57] <flacoste> anyone can explain why hitting lowercaSe 'S' or lowercaSe 'M' openS up the 'Shutdown'/'EMail' MenuS?
 it just did it to me too
[20:57] <coz_> mick__,  ooo  well the last alternaiv
[20:57] <Danacrine> i had to restart
[20:57] <coz_> mick__,  last alternative is a reinstall :(
[20:57] <^Alita> anyine knows how i can recover the wireless connection?
[20:57] <mick__> coz_: my filesystem is in good shape, e2fsck tells me it is ok
[20:58] <^Alita> i've installed ndisvrapper, and deinstalled
[20:58] <coz_> ^Alita,  I do not   I am a dunce with networking issues
[20:58] <coz_> mick__,   then I am puzzled... I will have to back off and let someone a bit more knowledgeable take of this one :)
[20:58] <mdresf> bonsoir tout le monde
[20:59] <mdresf> c'est mon premier irc!
[20:59] <LjL> !fr
[20:59] <mdresf> thank you!
[20:59] <Scorpio> I accidently made downloads folder pictures and a bunch of other folders icons and when i move them I have to go where ever i put them to access them how do i restore my desktop
[21:00] <Scorpio> anyone?
[21:00] <randomuser_> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu and would like to know how to create a youtube video that is only text words that change with music behind it, can anyone please help or point me to a good tutorial?
[21:02] <LzrdKing> Scorpio: move them back
[21:02] <Scorpio> i can't like everthing that was in the places tab is now on my desktop
[21:02] <mick__> coz_: Was ext4 still experimental when the 9.10 liveCD was released?
[21:02] <Scorpio> and idk how to put it back
[21:03] <oarion7> does anyone know what TIME ubuntu 10.04 is going up for download?
[21:03] <coz_> mick__,  not sure it was exactly experimental as newly implimented  but its possible
[21:03] <mark1> does anyone know how to unmount a drive
[21:03] <xangua> oarion7: no
[21:03] <mick__> coz_: maybe good old ext3 is at least reliable
[21:03] <Scorpio> on the Top of the screen where it says Apps/Places/System tabs
[21:03] <coz_> mark1,  umount
[21:03] <pure_hate> mark1,  umount /dev/sda1
[21:03] <mark1> thanks
[21:03] <randomuser_> mark1, right click the drive then goto un-mount?
[21:03] <Scorpio> right click it and choose unmount
[21:04] <mark1> i need to un mount it with sudo, apperantly i dont have permission
[21:04] <randomuser_> mark1, it is probuly easier from the GUI
[21:04] <pure_hate> mark1, yes you must be root to mount/unmount drives
[21:04] <aaron> When it becomes morning in North America 10.04 will be released
[21:04] <coz_> mark1,  yes sudo umount  etc etc
[21:04] <mark1> thanks
[21:04] <mick__> in fact, to me, 3 solutions : hardware screwed, fielsystem screwed, or kernel writing nothing to filesystem...
[21:05] <coz_> mick__,  mm those sound more like 3  possible problems not solutions :)
[21:05] <mick__> coz_: I'll reinstall with EXT3, but there is a problem I can't really ignore...
[21:05] <coz_> mick__,  ok ...it will be interesting to see the difference for you
[21:06] <mark1> ok new problem so apperently its actually samba that mounted it so i dont know how to umount it ? anyone know ?
[21:06] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ETA for Ubuntu 10.04 anyone?
[21:06] <mick__> I tried 2 different ubuntu kernels,
[21:06] <jrib> sh4d3sl4y3r_: tomorrow
[21:06] <coz_> sh4d3sl4y3r_,  in about 1440 minutes
[21:06] <xomp> how would I setup ubuntu to auto start certain commands when it restarts? example I have a game server and to run the game server I have to use the command "./srcds_run -game tf etc" can I put this command somewhere and it gets ran at startup?
[21:06] <Slart> !services | xomp
[21:06] <mick__> I tried 2 different ubuntu kernels,
[21:07] <Slart> !boot | xomp
[21:07] <pure_hate> mark1, same umount /path/to/sambashare
[21:07] <mark1> pure_hate, thanks ill try
[21:07] <OmegaPhil1> Does anyone know how to enforce an 'ontopness' policy with GNOME?
[21:07] <a[C]> would anyone be able to help me with my lvm setup, im trying to bring up an lv on a raid 5 array i transferred form another machine
[21:07] <OmegaPhil1> I.e. have the File Operations dialog always ontop without manually making it so etc?
[21:08] <mick__> coz_: thanks
[21:08] <mick__> exit
[21:08] <jrib> OmegaPhil1: use devilspie
[21:08] <Slart> xomp: hmm.. there used to be a factoid about how to start things when you login
[21:08] <a[C]> i can see the lv in lvdisplay, and the associated vg anfd pv in vgdisplayer and pvdisplay, but the lv has a status of 'suspended'
[21:08] <jrib> !devilspie | OmegaPhil
[21:08] <OmegaPhil> Sweet, I'll check that out, cheers
[21:08] <xomp> Slart, do I add ./srcds_run etc.. in my /etc/rc.local ?
[21:08] <Slart> !startup
[21:08] <ConcreteRose> hihii
[21:08] <Slart> ah, there it is
[21:09] <Slart> xomp: that will start it when the machine boots up.. before you've logged in
[21:09] <xomp> Slart, sorry but I don't use any DE at all
[21:09] <mark1> pure_hate, for some reason i cant
[21:09] <mark1> i dont know what
[21:09] <mark1> why*'
[21:09] <xomp> Slart, I use a Ubuntu Linode
[21:09] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[21:09] <Blackdesign> Am I right when I think the new Ubuntu has the close, max and minimize buttons on the left by default?
[21:09] <LzrdKing> xomp: everyone will assume you not only use a DE but that it is gnome
[21:09] <bastid_raZor> xomp: you would add the full path of your script to rc.local
[21:09] <Blackdesign> or do the screenshots betray?
[21:09] <Slart> xomp: well.. I guess you can use .bashrc then or something similar
[21:09] <bastid_raZor> !boot | maybe what you're looking for
[21:09] <mark1> pure_hate, please can you tell me how i would umount the drive called media 1500
[21:10] <xomp> LzrdKing, thanks, that's why I just told him :)
[21:10] <pure_hate> umount -t cifs -a
[21:10] <pure_hate> mark1, try that ^^
[21:10] <xomp> bastid_raZor, ok thanks
[21:10] <pure_hate> That will unmount all samba shares
[21:10] <a[C]> can anyone help me?
[21:10] <mark1> pure_hate, nope didnt work
[21:11] <pure_hate> mark1, where in the filesyatem is it mounted?
[21:12] <mark1> pure_hate, i can find it in media, so i tried sudo umount -f -a but i feel like that was a bad idea .. lol
[21:12] <dominicdinada> What is the memory max that a netboot will allow with ubuntu i understand windows has impossed a 2gb limit but does this effect all other distros/ubuntu/os x installs?
[21:12] <pure_hate> mark1, so it would be like "sudo umount -f /media/1500"
[21:13] <jimmy51_> man this is painful.  i've installed ubuntu server under hyperV and it is so stinking slow.  each console update repaints the whole screen line by line.  it takes about 2 secs per screen!
[21:13] <Oer> dominicdinada, check the manufacturor, an ION motherbord can handle 4 gb, intel 2 gb
[21:13] <Slart> dominicdinada: is there a special memory limit just because you're booting off a network?
[21:14] <mark1> pure_hate, it says no such file or directory, i think there is a problem with me media file cause 2 of my hard drives show up in there but im pretty sure they arent mounted, it doesnt make sense
[21:14] <aaron> dog
[21:14] <aaron> oops
[21:14] <dominicdinada> no I am looking into getting a new pc (mini) and wondered if ubuntu can handle 4gb or if since Microsoft impossed the restriction all makers had it
[21:14] <pure_hate> mark1, you are not giving me the complete file path and the name of the device so its pretty much impossible to give you the right commands
[21:14] <aaron> Sorry wrong channe;
[21:14] <mark1> pure_hate and they are both empty
[21:15] <mark1> pure_hate, sorry im new to linux trying to get used to everything, dont really always know what you're asking for
[21:15] <pure_hate> mark1, pastebin ls -la /media
[21:16] <mark1> pure_hate, apperently pastebin command is not found
[21:16] <subone> im trying to transfer an iso file from my ubuntu desktop to my laptop through a wlan but its really slow using ssh:// with nautilus... is there a faster yet not hugely complex way to do this?
[21:16] <xangua> dominicdinada: you mean a netbook¿¿ are there any that uses a 64bits procesor¿
[21:16] <pure_hate> mark1, I mean copy the output of "ls -la /media" to http://pastebin.com/
[21:16] <Slart> dominicdinada: if we're talking about a regular desktop install 32bit systems handle 4Gb of memory.. minus some for hardware mapping etc.. 64bit handles more than you'll ever be able to get your hands on today =)
[21:16] <dominicdinada> no a netbook mini Slart :P
[21:17] <aRecordMan> Hi! everybody!
[21:17] <inglor> hey, I need help in changing the way my cursor looks , I installed KDE as an alternative and since my cursor changed to the KDE one even in gnome except when I click on gtk+ apps, this is very odd
[21:17] <usman> It is already april 29 in my country, how many hours left for the release
[21:17] <Promit> so when is 10.04 stable coming out, anyone know?
[21:17] <Slart> !lucid
[21:17] <therealpxc> supposed to be tomorrow, wasn't it?
[21:17] <Slart> !isitout
[21:17] <aRecordMan> anybody can helpme, I have a little problem with my 3 sounds cards and a script to make record sound
[21:18] <mark1> pure_hate what must i call it and things ?
[21:18] <Promit> i'm guessing that the netbook remix will take longer?
[21:18] <mattkimeAtWork> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 via usb flash drive on my HP Mini 311. Ethernet fails to work. Anyone know what my options are to fix it?
[21:19] <_pg_> mattkimeAtWork: look for proprietary drivers!
[21:19] <aRecordMan> Im working with ubuntu 9.04 and its works fine
[21:19] <usman> It is already april 29 in my country, how many hours left for the release of lucid lynx 10.04
[21:19] <mattkimeAtWork> I need internet connectivity to do anything else for the machine
[21:19] <sandking> hi
[21:19] <mattkimeAtWork> aRecordMan - 9.04 and the HP Mini 311?
[21:19] <sandking> i read that by default all ports should be open in ubuntu?
[21:20] <sandking> is there a way to check if it's really open/
[21:20] <sandking> ?
[21:20] <sandking> [specific port]
[21:20] <zytrik> mattkimeAtWork: what about wifi?
[21:20] <pure_hate> sandking, netstat
[21:20] <ubutom2> usman, as i got it, it'sAmoan time, which seems to be south africa, which isn't in your timezone.
[21:20] <aRecordMan> yeap... what chipset do you have in? .... Im from Argentina, and may be they integrate differents chips
[21:20] <ubutom2> samoan
[21:21] <mattkimeAtWork> aRecordMan: I'm not certain, how can i find out?
[21:21] <djbeenie_> does anyone know how to restart my sound card?
[21:21] <aRecordMan> restart ALSA
[21:21] <mattkimeAtWork> _pg_: how do i look for the drivers without ethernet??
[21:21] <xomp> bastid_raZor, can I include a .sh file in that rc.local file for startup?
[21:22] <usman> ubutom2, what is samoan time now.
[21:22] <Andorin> Given the choice between formatting between ext3 and ext4, is there a better choice?
[21:22] <ubutom2> ok, my geographic skills suck ;)
[21:22] <aRecordMan> as sudo do.... alsa reload
[21:22] <ubutom2> usman, its 09:21 am there on April 28th
[21:22] <aRecordMan> ext4 it works fine if you have a desktop machine
[21:22] <aRecordMan> if you want a server... i recommend ext3
[21:23] <sandking> pure_hate: how to use netstat to check specific port?
[21:23] <aRecordMan> more stable
[21:23] <Andorin> Right, thanks.
[21:23] <aRecordMan> wellcome
[21:23] <pure_hate> sandking, netstat -an | grep 80
[21:24] <pure_hate> sandking, to list all ports that are listning: netstat -an | grep ESTABLISHED | awk '{print $5}' | awk -F: '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | awk '{ printf("%s\t%s\t",$2,$1) ; for (i = 0; i < $1; i++) {printf("*")}; print "" }'
[21:24] <sandking> pure_hate: oh, so i need port 30304 open and i see that it isn't - how can i open it? i didn't set up any firewall after default install
[21:24] <Mepingo> hi
[21:24] <g3wn> Anyone have the problem with 10.04 (desktop) not installing grub?
[21:24] <aRecordMan> who can tell me about an app to make some record (line-in) by time... I mean, I need record about 36 hours continus, but I need cutting this about 1 hs
[21:24] <pure_hate> sandking, Start whatever service needs that post to run
[21:25] <Slart> !lucid | g3wn
[21:25] <Mepingo> i have a problem configuring mutt...!
[21:25] <Travis-42> I've been experiencing random hardware lockups the last several weeks. What log file might give me some clues about what's wrong?
[21:25] <Slart> Travis-42: in my experience lockups doesn't make it to the logfiles.. have you checked cooling? memory?
[21:25] <jbuncher> g3wn, I upgraded from a karmic install, and it has worked so far, but that likely doesn't help you.
[21:26] <g3wn> jbrouhard: nah...
[21:26] <sandking> pure_hate: so when something will be using it it'll be shown as open?
[21:27] <pure_hate> sandking, yeah. Like the mysql port would not be listning unless the service is started
[21:27] <Travis-42> Slart: I suspect that it's video card related, but not sure. There is plenty of cooling. memory is fine. maybe I'll go ask in a hardware forum
[21:27] <Slart> Travis-42: I'm not saying it can't be a software problem.. but I would start looking at the hardware
[21:28] <Guest35290> why isn't */2 * * * * /home/ldlework/dev/webdesk/statusdaemon/run.py  running every two minutes?
[21:28] <Travis-42> ok thanks Slart.
[21:28] <Guest35290> Is there somewhere where cronjob errors are printed?
[21:28] <Slart> Guest35290: what makes you so sure it isn't running? it looks correct to me
[21:28] <pure_hate> Guest35290, not unless you specify the errors to output to a log file
[21:29] <Alvaros> anybody knows how can I make continuos record from line-in and cutting this fila about 60 minutes
[21:29] <g3wn> jbrouhard: I'm kinda afraid to install grub2 as I read it's kinda weird when installing... I have xp right now for my audio DAW and running MLPPP to acess the net, so I'm concerned to try and isntall grub2 and then not be able to access the net if something goes wrong
[21:29] <zoug> Guest35290: yes, syslog and your mail
[21:30] <zoug> Guest35290: give a +x to your py
[21:30] <pure_hate> Guest35290, Add this to the cron command " 2> /var/log/cron.errorlog "
[21:30] <Jake2|cfl> what JVM pkg name should I get for lucid?
[21:31] <Guest35290> zoug, ooops!
[21:31] <Guest35290> pure_hate, I can't believe I forgot about piping.
[21:32] <pure_hate> Guest35290, Its good practice to pipe all cron commands to /dev/null anyway
[21:32] <Mepingo> how to remove unwanted files such as failed to install etc..Anyone
[21:32] <pure_hate> Mepingo, rm
[21:33] <Jake2|cfl> what JVM pkg name should I get for lucid?
[21:33]  * dominicdinada is bashing his head on his laptop
[21:34] <Slart> Jake2|cfl: ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:34]  * dominicdinada wonders if there is DOS drivers for Wireless nic's and Usb drivers 
[21:35] <Slart> dominicdinada: check the freedos website.. if it exists I guess those guys would know about it
[21:35] <jimtahu> dominicdinada: whats up?
[21:36] <dominicdinada> I was being Facious cause Windows sucks Ubuntu is sometimes assenine and well ://
[21:36] <frxstrem> why does the VNC server in Ubuntu say that it is only accessible from within the local network, when it is actually accessible outside it too?
[21:36] <usman> does ubuntu support official drivers of broadcom wlan minicard ( in dell laptop), i am presently using the propritory
[21:37] <pure_hate> frxstrem, the port would still have to be forwarded at the router/firewall so techniclly what it says is correct
[21:37] <jimtahu> usman: Yeah, I'm using the propiatary also, but it works fine
[21:38] <dominicdinada> Wireless networking ( psycho_oreos ) was helping and we got somewhere but then someone else was helping and well I appricate it but the "help" was a mere suggestion to switch to wicd when the problem lies that something is hooking my power button on my laptop for the wireless network card
[21:38] <PsoPhreak> .
[21:39] <frxstrem> pure_hate: no, it isn't - first of all, I connected to my router (internally) with my iPod touch's VNC client and it worked, which indicates that it is actually forwarding the port, and secondly I used an online port checking tool which said that the port 5900 (VNC port) is opened and accessible from outside the network
[21:39] <dominicdinada> That and I am going to need to find a program that flushes the entire systems cachef it  because my disk space is always erroading away and I can never reclaim any o
[21:40] <pure_hate> frxstrem, Thats not possibel, if the port isnt forwarded at the router the NAT has now way of knowing whic pc to send the vnc connection to
[21:40] <mark1> can someone help me please, i have 2 harddrives in me /media folder, that think they are mounted but they are in fact not mounted, they are confused, how do i get rid of them ?
[21:40] <Alvaros> umount all
[21:40] <steal> how can i see hard disk model and vendor??? I hope that I can see it in /proc but i can't find it
[21:41] <Alvaros> and mount one by one
[21:41] <jimtahu> mark1: see if you have extra stuff in fstab
[21:41] <frxstrem> pure_hate: well, I'm saying that it's forwarding the port, and that the VNC server just doesn't tell me (it says that it's not)
[21:41] <mark1> jimtahu will do thanks
[21:41] <usman> which is faster solid state or rotating ones hard drives
[21:42] <pure_hate> steal, hdparm -I /dev/sda
[21:42] <a[C]> please, can anyone help me with my lvm issue?
[21:42] <mark1> jimtahu. i did have extra stuff in fstab, but its gone now and the harddrives havent :(:(
[21:42] <Slart> usman: depends.. ssds have better seek time, regular hard drives have better transfer speed I think
[21:43] <jimtahu> mark1: see what the out put of mount says the drives are
[21:43] <Slart> steal: you might want to check the disk utility in system, administration as well.. it shows s.m.a.r.t info.. I think those things are available in there somewhere
[21:43] <mark1> jimtahu, sorry im new to this , what do you mean bu the output of the mount
[21:43] <macman_> can i rm -r /tmp/ * since i don't use anything in there ?
[21:44] <Slart> macman_: I would avoid the space after /tmp/
[21:44] <usman> Slart, if transfer speed sucks then ssd's  are not worth it
[21:44] <iceroot> macman_: no
[21:44] <jimtahu> mark1: try unmounting booth hds
[21:44] <pure_hate> steal, you can check your write speed like this: [root@tools ~]# hdparm -t /dev/sda
[21:44] <pure_hate> /dev/sda:
[21:44] <pure_hate>  Timing buffered disk reads:  384 MB in  3.01 seconds = 127.70 MB/sec
[21:44] <iceroot> macman_: 1. that will kill your cwd, second it may kill the running processes
[21:45] <mark1> jimtahu, i tried to unmount them and i get this error :DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given mount was not found
[21:45] <usman> coz, i was thinking ssd had high transfer speeed
[21:45] <dominicdinada> What program-process would be hooking or controlling my hardware keys
[21:45] <otto__> jh3908hhhhreãjkbw]er23itfgj;er
[21:45] <Slart> usman: ok, suit yourself.. I don't agree
[21:45] <Mepingo> mutt? how to install and configure..Anyone
[21:45] <steal> slacker_nl, smart info not avaiable :-(
[21:45] <jimtahu> mark1: rebooting might be a good idea
[21:45] <mark1> let me try , lol
[21:45] <mark1> jimtahu, thanks
[21:45] <pure_hate> Mepingo, http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttGuide/Setup
[21:46] <essial> How many more hours before 10.04?
[21:46] <pure_hate> lol
[21:46] <jimtahu> mark1: no prob
[21:46] <_pg_> essial: im so excited
[21:46] <_pg_> lol
[21:46] <essial> i'm seriously  going nuts here
[21:46] <otto__> frcytr7ifl
[21:46] <usman> _pg_about what
[21:46] <_pg_> 10.04 I guess lol even though I already have it running.
[21:46] <essial> usman: 10.04..
[21:47] <essial> I'm on 9.10 right now, ever tried 10.04, wanted to wait until official release
[21:47] <usman> essail, me too
[21:47] <k0d3g3ar> usman, me 3
[21:47] <CaptainTrek> i'm watiting for 10.04 to release to upgrade from 9.04
[21:47] <CaptainTrek> regardless
[21:47] <CaptainTrek> !lucid
[21:47] <_pg_> essial: usman is it really going to change alot in the next 10 hours?
[21:47] <essial> I haven't been this excited since the release of zelda 64 :p
[21:48] <dominicdinada> zelda 64 lol
[21:48] <mark1> so it didnt work
[21:48] <usman> essail, 2 hourse 10 minutes left
[21:48] <usman> sorry 20 mins
[21:48] <erkan^> zelda ? the legend of zelda, dominicdinada ? (:
[21:48] <Slart> !ot
[21:48] <dominicdinada> Slart I asked a question 3 times :(
[21:49] <jimtahu> mark1: open a term and type mount
[21:49] <Slart> dominicdinada: so?
[21:49] <essial> seirously, 2 hours from now?
[21:49] <essial> Awesome, that's exactly when I get home :D
[21:49] <dominicdinada> I am waiting for a reply
[21:49] <usman> I think i just got warned by ubottu
[21:49] <myk_robinson> is there a dependency required for Brasero to burn audio cds?
[21:50] <mark1> jimtahu, so i just deleted them from the media folder and they gone, lol, i dont know if it was a good idea but they gone so im happy , thanks for the help dude
[21:50] <Slart> dominicdinada: this channel is for support stuff only.. other topics and regular chat is best kept in #ubuntu-offtopic.. regardless of how many times you've asked a questions or what you're waiting for
[21:50] <oik> myk_robinson, very likely... I don't know which tho...
[21:50] <jimtahu> mark1: your wellcome, good luck
[21:50] <dominicdinada> OK
[21:50] <dominicdinada> What program-process would be hooking or controlling my hardware keys
[21:50] <jiffe1> I don't suppose edquota can be used fully command-line to edit a user's quota like it can on bsd eh?
[21:51] <usman> let's keep the discussion for when it is released
[21:51] <woodyjlw> I deleted my lower panel on ubuntu a few weeks ago and I also dropped to one workspace and now I put my lower panel back and added the workspace back to 4 but I can not switch between them and they all show as workspace 1
[21:51] <Alcor> there is no #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:51] <Slart> Alcor: yes there is
[21:51] <Mepingo> pure_hate : something much more simpler..(new ubuntu user) mutt configuration?
[21:51] <Alcor> ill look again
[21:52] <pure_hate> Mepingo, why do you want to use mutt anyway?
[21:52] <lafti> Hi! Does anybody have a Creative Labs XMOD wireless?
[21:52] <rootkkkk> ola!!!!!!!!
[21:52] <usman> Alcor, why don't you check again
[21:52] <pure_hate> If you need a command line mail client alpine is much easier
[21:52] <StephenWins> I'd like help getting rid of this empty "drive" folder on my /media/ and also every time I plug in my 1TB external usb hard drive, it makes another folder for it in /media/, and it's making problems for me, look at the picture.
[21:52] <StephenWins> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/54869/04_28_2010_001_jt1QqU.png
[21:53] <mark1> damnit i forgot the name of the thing thats making my network work, does anyone know what its called, its the thing that makes you able to network with windows
[21:53] <aj00200> Hi. My problem is that every time I try to download something form the Ubuntu Software Center, I get the following error: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." How do I fix this?
[21:53] <usser> StephenWins: look at the udev rules
[21:53] <usser> !udev
[21:53] <Scunizi> mark1: samba
[21:53] <StephenWins> !udev
[21:53] <Slart> StephenWins: what happens if you disconnect the drive and remove the folders it has created by hand.. use rmdir in a terminal..
[21:53] <woodyjlw> how do I get back to 4 workspace so I can use desktop cube?
[21:53] <mark1> Scunizi, thanks
[21:53] <StephenWins> I can't send pictures?
[21:53] <xomp> can a .sh script be added to rc.local?
[21:53] <mark1> !samba | mark
[21:53] <StephenWins> rmdir in terminal, ok, thanks.
[21:53] <xangua> aj00200: what are you trying to install¿
[21:53] <xomp> I need to have it start on reboot
[21:53] <Slart> !ccsm | woodyjlw
[21:53] <pure_hate> xomp, yes
[21:53] <StephenWins> is usser a bot?
[21:54] <aj00200> xangua: This happens with everything
[21:54] <usser> xomp: most definetely, thats why rc.local is there
[21:54] <usser> StephenWins: no im not
[21:54] <usser> xomp: dont forget to make it executable
[21:54] <StephenWins> alright
[21:54] <xomp> pure_hate, I put  ./root/launch.sh in my rc.local but it isn't working
[21:54] <usser> xomp: /etc/rc.local?
[21:54] <aj00200> xangua: otherwise I can also get: "This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.", but nothing will install
[21:54] <Mepingo> pure_hate : my friends are talking about it, i would like to give a try. (as they would not tell how)
[21:54] <StephenWins> what rule did I break, usser, I sent a picture?
[21:54] <bastid_raZor> xomp: why the . ?
[21:54] <xomp> usser, yeah
[21:54] <dominicdinada> you need to use tinypic lawl
[21:55] <usser> StephenWins: i didnt say anything? :)
[21:55] <Slart> StephenWins: udev rules.. it's not channel rules.. it's configuration settings for hardware
[21:55] <StephenWins> <usser> StephenWins: look at the udev rules
[21:55] <pure_hate> Mepingo, okay but you realize its a temrinal based mail client and its not that easy to use
[21:55] <usser> xomp: how do you know its not working
[21:55] <StephenWins> lol, maybe you tabbed wrong or something
[21:55] <jiffe1> hmm, are there any command line utilities for editing user quotas that don't require going into an editor?
[21:55] <StephenWins> Oo, ok lolol
[21:55] <wraund> Someone please help me with my networking, I am an experienced linux user but this wireless card simply does not want to behave :(
[21:55] <usser> StephenWins: oh sorry man :) udev is the thing responsible for naming and mounting devices
[21:55] <Slart> StephenWins: in /etc/udev/rules.d you have text files with info on lots of hardware.. for example network names, which interface becomes eth0 and eth1 and so on
[21:55] <usser> StephenWins: among other things
[21:56] <xomp> bastid_raZor, It tells me I need to use that  or I could use bash example.sh
[21:56] <linxeh> wraund: you might need to be more specific
[21:56] <oik> #writers
[21:56] <oik> oops
[21:56] <wcgary83> hi all! does anyone know the command line argument to guarantee firefox opens in a new window instead of a new tab?
[21:56] <Alcor> ubuntu is having technical difficulties and says to join #ubuntu
[21:56] <Alcor> ubuntu-offtopic
[21:56] <StephenWins> usser, it told me permission denied, how do I change my udev rules?
[21:56] <wraund> linxeh, well I plug the wireless card in, have all the correct network settings, and I know the router is okay because my other wireless devices run fine, but it simply will not connect :(
[21:56] <bastid_raZor> xomp: /path/to/bash /path/to/script ...would be the proper way to add it in rc.local
[21:56] <oik> wcgary83, firefox --new-window
[21:56] <Alcor> heh
[21:56] <Slart> Alcor: works for me.. and for about 200 other people
[21:56] <wcgary83> thanks oik!
[21:56] <StephenWins> permission denied when I rmdir /media/FreeAgent or something like that
[21:57] <usser> StephenWins: permission denied when removing folder?
[21:57] <xomp> bastid_raZor, ok thanks :)
[21:57] <mkhanyisi> my firefox browser cannot display PDF files anymore!
[21:57] <mkhanyisi> help!
[21:57] <Alcor> what name r u using?
[21:57] <StephenWins> yeah
[21:57] <usser> StephenWins: anything you change outside of your /home needs sudo
[21:57] <linxeh> wraund: and no nasties in var/log/messages / dmesg ?
[21:57] <linxeh> wraund: all firmwares needed are loaded ?
[21:57] <Slart> Alcor: might be something specific for the irc-server you're on
[21:57] <StephenWins> rmdir: failed to remove `/media/FreeAgent Drive': Permission denied
[21:57] <Alcor> im on ubuntu server
[21:57] <StephenWins> sudo rmdir /media/Free...?
[21:57] <usser> xomp: or add shebang as first line of the script is #!/bin/bash
[21:58] <wraund> linxeh, my humblest apologies xD I just restarted the laptop after having done all my work and it seems to be fine now, a reboot was all that was needed, sorry for wasting your time :$
[21:58] <usser> StephenWins: yep
[21:58] <_pg_> anyone know of a good ssh/vnc guide for invalids like me?
[21:58] <linxeh> wraund: no worries :)
[21:58] <oik> StephenWins, make sure you unmount it first
[21:58] <Slart> Alcor: you're using      holmes.freenode.net [London, UK]
[21:58] <Mepingo> pure_hate : its really good for sending short messages, instead of open the browser..etc..you know.
[21:58] <linxeh> wraund: fwiw, I find that network manager breaks quite often, and restarting the daemon fixes things
[21:58] <Alcor> alcor
[21:59] <StephenWins> alright, I unmounted a few, like drive and FreeAgent Drive (without the _ and ___ and ____)
[21:59] <pure_hate> Mepingo, If you only need to send mail just use sendmail on the command line
[21:59] <mkhanyisi> my firefox browser cannot display PDF files anymore! please help
[21:59] <woodyjlw> how do you add more than one workspace to ubuntu?
[21:59] <aj00200> mkhanyisi: you will need to reinstall the PDF plugin
[21:59] <oik> mkhanyisi, did you use Adobe Reader?
[21:59] <Mepingo> pure_hate : i will try that.
[21:59] <StephenWins> when I try to unmount them, oik, it says "umount: /media/FreeAgent Drive_ is not in the fstab (and you are not root)"
[21:59] <StephenWins> that's by right-clicking and then left-clicking "unmount"
[22:00] <aj00200> mkhanyisi: Or ask in #firefox at irc.mozilla.org
[22:00] <lafti> sorry, I was offline. So, was there someone who owns a Creative Xmod wireless?
[22:00] <StephenWins> there's no reason for them to be busy
[22:00] <zoug> pure_hate: should i use sendmail with msmtp? im having problems with mutt not sending mails..
[22:00] <StephenWins> there's 3 empty FreeAgent Drive_ and __ blah blah blah, they're like ghosts
[22:01] <oik> StephenWins, sudo umount /media/...
[22:01] <mkhanyisi> oik, aj00200 yes I am using acrobat
[22:01] <mkhanyisi> aj00200, ok
[22:01] <oik> StephenWins, try unmounting all of them
[22:01] <Docteh> hey is it "is it out" time yet?
[22:01] <pure_hate> zoug, mutt is only a mail client you still have to have a MTA and stuff set up like sendmail or postfix
[22:01] <oik> StephenWins, if all of those succeed, delete them
[22:01] <Slart> !isitout | Docteh
[22:01] <Oer> StephenWins, start terminal and type: gksudo nautilus
[22:01] <Oer> then you can
[22:01] <Alcor> hmmm how did i get to holmes?
[22:01] <nuccio> hi :)
[22:01] <melkor> I'm looking for a sound/video recorder, my laptop has a mic and a webcam.
[22:01] <xomp> !hi | nuccio
[22:01] <Docteh> Slart: thx
[22:02] <oik> melkor, try cheese
[22:02] <Andorin> Apparently parted can't create ntfs file systems. Is there a partition manager that can?
[22:02] <melkor> does cheese do sound?
[22:02] <aj00200> My problem is that every time I try to download anything form the Ubuntu Software Center, I get the following error: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." How do I fix this?
[22:02] <oik> melkor, I don't remember, but it should
[22:02] <Andorin> melkor: Not that I knwo of.
[22:02] <Andorin> know of*
[22:02] <Slart> Alcor: freenode has several servers.. your irc-client is probably setup to pick one at random
[22:02] <nicor_93> has anyone tested the new nathive?
[22:03] <zoug> pure_hate: i use fetchmail, msmtp and openssl with mutt. it works while retrieving mail, but i cant send mail. google replies with a beautiful:The IP you're using to send mail is not authorized to 550-5.7.1 send email directly to our servers. Please use the SMTP relay at your 550-5.7.1 service provider instead
[22:03] <nuccio> those who have fb?
[22:03] <mkhanyisi> Andorin, GParted can
[22:03] <Alcor> Slart the network list says im on freenode
[22:03] <nicor_93> fb is facebook?
[22:03] <pure_hate> zoug, thats becasue whatever IP you are sending from does not have reverse DNS set up
[22:03] <nuccio> yes
[22:03] <nuccio> facebook
[22:03] <nicor_93> i do
[22:03] <bastid_raZor> Alcor: issue a /whois Alcor and it will tell you all kinds of info
[22:03] <Andorin> mkhanyisi: Apparently it can't, as when I go to create a new partition, ntfs is grayed out under the filesystem options.
[22:03] <Slart> Alcor: yes.. and the freenode network consists of many servers
[22:04] <StephenWins> oik: when I try to do it using gksudo nautilus, when I right-click and unmount, just nothing happens, with all of them
[22:04] <nuccio> and your name
[22:04] <nuccio> ?
[22:04] <Alcor> Slart the server says i was forwarded to another channel
[22:04] <nicor_93> nicolas rossini
[22:04] <nuccio> ok
[22:04] <zoug> pure_hate: the problem is i dont want to send mail with a from add of "user@host" but with a from address of mygmail@gmail.com
[22:04] <milianrey> spek spanish?
[22:04] <nuccio> thx
[22:04] <StephenWins> and when I do sudo umount /media/Free... it just tries and tries and doesn't stop (on terminal)
[22:04] <oik> nuccio, pvt for chatter
[22:04] <Slart> Alcor: here's a list of servers for the freenode network http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[22:04] <nicor_93> yo hablo español
[22:04] <StephenWins> I don't get an error message, or nothing
[22:04] <Andorin> nicor_93: Why are you giving personal information out to a stranger?
[22:04] <usser> zoug: there's a way to change outgoing address
[22:04] <mneptok> !es | milianrey
[22:04] <coldfire> does anyone know when exactly will 10.4 get released 12 am EST tonight?
[22:04] <nicor_93> he asked... sorry...
[22:04] <nuccio> ah ok
[22:04] <nuccio> no problem
[22:04] <Kin`Away> buonasera a tutti
[22:05] <oik> StephenWins, which Ubuntu are you on?
[22:05] <Andorin> mkhanyisi: Furthermore, I ran man parted and it says it only detects ntfs.
[22:05] <StephenWins> 10.4, is it some strange bug?
[22:05] <zoug> usser: i tried to change all the confs of mutt and msmtp but to no  use.
[22:05] <Slart> Alcor: it might just be that the server you're on is doing something weird.. or it might be something else.. I could join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel without any problems though.. it might be a registration problem as well
[22:05] <Slart> !register | Alcor
[22:05] <oik> StephenWins, shouldn't... try eject or safely remove
[22:05] <zoug> usser: how can i change it?
[22:05] <StephenWins> that doesn't work
[22:05] <Slart> Alcor: some channels require that you're registered to cut back on spam and such
[22:05] <novato> como istalo el aircrack-n
[22:05] <pure_hate> zoug, http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/   That tool will let you spoof email from any address
[22:05] <lafti> Hi! My Nokia mobile phone is not recognized as MP3 player in 9.10 and 10.04 anymore. In 9.04 everything went fine. Is there some sort of database where I can add my mobile?
[22:05] <Mepingo> pure_hate : how to un-install and re-install sendmail, i think something went bad during installation.
[22:05] <Alcor> thx
[22:06] <oik> StephenWins, if you open those folders, do you see the drive's FS?
[22:06] <berefeira> do you have to use email when registering?
[22:06] <mkhanyisi> Andorin, I opened GParted version 0.4.5 it is ABLE to create an ntfs filesystem, I am not sure about parted
[22:06] <StephenWins> what's FS? there's no files in them
[22:06] <StephenWins> in any of them
[22:06] <Slart> berefeira: only if you want to be able to retrieve your password, I think
[22:06] <novato> spanish
[22:06] <oik> StephenWins, FS = File System
[22:06] <milianrey> i tried to changed
[22:06] <novato> ey
[22:06] <StephenWins> nothing in them
[22:06] <StephenWins> any
[22:06] <milianrey> the confs
[22:06] <berefeira> ah, thanks
[22:06] <oik> StephenWins, okay... is the drive empty?
[22:06] <StephenWins> no
[22:07] <nuccio> who likes rap music?
[22:07] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, you want to umount?
[22:07] <StephenWins> yes
[22:07] <mkhanyisi> nuccio, offtopic
[22:07] <mneptok> !offtopic | nuccio
[22:07] <Andorin> mkhanyisi: I don't know what you're doing, then, because I go to create an ntfs file system and ntfs is grayed out.
[22:07] <StephenWins> what happens is, when I have it plugged in for a few hours, listening to music, etc., it unmounts itself or something (by itself) and the I plug it back in
[22:07] <StephenWins> this is the first time that it's started doing this multiple folder thing though
[22:08] <StephenWins> sometimes I get really bad luck and my pc recognizes the external usb drive as a usb1, and not usb2, and I have to restart to fix it
[22:08] <Slart> Andorin: tried installing the ntfstools package? I think gparted wants that before it will touch ntfs partitions
[22:08] <nuccio> someone who speaks Italian here?
[22:08] <Andorin> Slart: k
[22:08] <mneptok> !it | nuccio
[22:08] <GeekSquid> !it |nuccio
[22:08] <Slart> Andorin: it might be called ntfs-utils or ntfstools or something lik that.. I don't quite remember
[22:08] <mkhanyisi> Andorin, I just made a dry run, and GParted was ready, did you use the commandline parted of the GUI GParted?
[22:08] <zoug> pure_hate: wow, thanks that was what i wanted! and it also has TLS!
[22:09] <usser> Andorin: ntfsprogs
[22:09] <Andorin> Slart: ntfsprogs, perhaps?
[22:09] <Andorin> Yeah.
[22:09] <Slart> !info ntfsprogs | Andorin
[22:09] <Slart> Andorin: yes, that's the one
[22:09] <aj00200> Hi. My problem is that every time I try to download anything form the Ubuntu Software Center, I get the following error: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." How do I fix this?
[22:09] <mark1> !samba
[22:09] <nuccio> hi geekquid
[22:09] <pure_hate> zoug, np, we use that as penetration testers to send fake emails all the time
[22:09] <nuccio> you speak italian?
[22:10] <Slart> !it | nuccio
[22:10] <Andorin> Slart: Yep, I can now create ntfs partitions. Thank you!
[22:10] <Slart> Andorin: you're welcome
[22:10] <Typos_King> nuccio:    canal parlare inglese
[22:10] <nuccio> ok
[22:11] <nuccio> woow kaos
[22:11] <mneptok> nuccio: you will not be told about offtopicness or Italian again. this is the *English* Ubuntu *support* channel.
[22:11] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, when the system things the removeable drive is still mounted while it is unplugged, next time you plug that removeable device again (while the system is still under that confusion), you will have another folder that differs from the first by a number and sometimes with an underscore at the end
[22:11] <StephenWins> when I'm away from my computer for a few minutes, my screen turns black and asks for me to login every time, how do I set up my Ubuntu to where I don't have to login every time?
[22:11] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, thinks
[22:11] <pure_hate> wow, hanging in this channel is like a full time job :-)
[22:12] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, that should be battery settings
[22:12] <StephenWins> mkhanyisi, yeah, it does an underscore
[22:12] <StephenWins> I think I looked there and didn't find anything, I'll try again
[22:12] <sergi_> hour in spain 10.04?
[22:13] <zoug> pure_hate: but that would introduce spams..
[22:13] <jpds> sergi_: #ubuntu+1.
[22:13] <Slart> sergi_: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[22:13] <Typos_King> sergi_   thereabouts, around 10:13pm really
[22:13] <cliff> Do VGA projectors/monitors work well with ubuntu? I'm having trouble getting them to work and have a presentation 2morrow can any1 help??
[22:13] <StephenWins> mkhanyisi, system -> preferences -> power management?
[22:13] <sergi_> 00:00 not posible?
[22:13] <Slart> sergi_: I don't think anyone actually knows.. come back tomorrow
[22:14] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, ALT+F2 then type gnome-power-preferences
[22:14] <StephenWins> thanks
[22:14] <StephenWins> mkhanyisi, yeah, I don't see the "ask for password" or "go on standby" or any of that, it's not there
[22:15] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, I thought you want to disable sleeping altogether
[22:15] <StephenWins> I have 3 tabs, but they're all about closing lid standby and stuff
[22:15] <StephenWins> yeah, all my settings are not sleep
[22:15] <StephenWins> I never let my pc sleep or shut down or restart
[22:15] <StephenWins> but for some reason
[22:15] <StephenWins> when I'm off the pc for like 5 minutes+
[22:15] <StephenWins> it'll ask for my password when I move the mouse
[22:16] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, under On Ac Power there is a "Display" section
[22:16] <StephenWins> put display to sleep when inactive for: never
[22:16] <StephenWins> display brightness : 100%
[22:16] <zoug> pure_hate: it seems that for anonymous messages you still need a smtp relay from the isp, right? its not possbile with dynamic ips i guess..
[22:16] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, Remember this has implication on your battery life
[22:16] <pure_hate> zoug, correct but there are free mail relays out there
[22:17] <StephenWins> what?
[22:17] <zoug> pure_hate: like?
[22:17] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, I mean if your laptop does not sleep and is always 100% bright (esp On Battery)
[22:18] <mkhanyisi> StephenWins, I dont think  its a problem for On AC Power mode
[22:18] <jorge> hello
[22:18] <StephenWins> I'm nearly always always plugged in
[22:18] <mkhanyisi> Hi jorge
[22:18] <StephenWins> it's strange, but thanks, you tried your best. :p
[22:18] <jorge> does anyone here know how to change the ubuntu icon next to applications into the old gnome foot?
[22:18] <StephenWins> I wonder why I can't fix it :(
[22:18] <jorge> i am using the new ubuntu, lucid
[22:19] <moreia> jorge: try #ubuntu+1
[22:19] <jorge> ok
[22:19] <Bodsda> jorge: not sure about new releases, but it used to be a particular picture in your theme, I think it was called 'start-here'
[22:19] <moreia> StephenWins: actually ... you're frustrated at logout timing or screen saving?
[22:20] <plum> how can i get yahoo free mail working from thunderbird?
[22:20] <naxa> hi! i have 10.04 on an external usb hdd what i use in several computers. I would like if ubuntu could mount the partitions of the internal hdds automatically in a directory in /mnt named after the ntfslabel of the partition, or the partition ("sdb1") if it's not ntfs. i would like this to happen automatically, not only when triggered by nautilus. is there such a tool?
[22:20] <moreia> Plum: does Yahoo support pop or imap?
[22:20] <StephenWins> logout timing I guess
[22:20] <Bodsda> plum: you should be able to pull mail without an issue - but to push mail you will need something like Ypops! I have never gotten it working
[22:21] <Axilus_> Hello
[22:21] <plum> Bodsda: yeah i just tried today, it didn't work for me either
[22:21] <StephenWins> ah, I think I know what you mean
[22:21] <StephenWins> let me take a look at screensaver pref
[22:21] <plum> moreia: it's both but they want you to pay for push to anything other than webmail
[22:21] <Bodsda> plum: that was the reason I switched to gmail :)
[22:21] <Typos_King> moreia:    I don't think the free accounts do either, they don't provide any server to access using a mail client, it has to be done through their web interface
[22:21] <plum> which sucks btw. i hate their layout and stationary stuff
[22:21] <plum> Bodsda: gmail doesn't have push either iirc
[22:22] <Axilus_> Does anyone have any recommendations on an RSS reader that I sync in between my PC, Laptop, and android phone?
[22:22] <Bodsda> plum: yes it does - I have it working like a charm
[22:22] <plum> nice
[22:22] <plum> well i use my yahoo and gmail for different purposes
[22:22] <cliff>  I'm having trouble getting VGA projectors to work in ubuntu 9.10 can any1 help??
[22:22] <moreia> stephenwins: I've got Gnome-do set up, so I don't know where to find it without that, but in Power Management Preferences I've got "Put computer to sleep when inactive for: Never"
[22:22] <plum> so switching completely to one or the other wouldn't help me
[22:22] <Axilus_> Hmm, I'm not a big fan of google reader
[22:23] <StephenWins> thanks, I think I fixed it
[22:23] <moreia> stephenwins: I missed the earlier support thread -- sounded like someone was helping you, so I apologize if you already tweaked those settings.
[22:23] <Bodsda> moreia: there is an important lesson behind your last sentence
[22:23] <francesco_> ciao
[22:23] <francesco_> !list
[22:24] <moreia> Bodsda: and it is?
[22:24] <dancallo> anyone know exactly when Canonical Ltd is going to release 10.04 LTS tomorrow?
[22:24] <allen> countdown for lucid lynx?
[22:24] <Slart> dancallo: nope.. you can ask in #ubuntu-release-party if someone there knows
[22:24] <allen> how long is it?
[22:24] <Slart> !isitout
[22:24] <dancallo> thanks, I'll do that.
[22:25] <allen> great
[22:25] <Bodsda> moreia: letting graphical apps handle your life leave you up ..... creek when they arent there to hold your hand anymore
[22:25] <allen> gimp is no longer in i heard
[22:25] <Slart> allen: not in the default install, no.. but it's there in the repos
[22:25]  * Typos_King wonders if they have confetti at #ubuntu-release-party, or at least tea and cookies
[22:26] <Bodsda> Typos_King: i would be insulted if there were no cookies
[22:26] <allen> yep, ubuntu's great. good n8 mates
[22:26] <StephenWins> allen, you mean, by default?
[22:26] <StephenWins> ^:(
[22:27] <noah_> hey, I'm using ubuntu 10.04 RC, and I don't have the nice plymouth bootloader when I start up, but I do when I turn it off. Anyone else having this problem?
[22:27] <Slart> noah_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <dfgas> what flash and java plugins do you use in firefox?
[22:28] <noah_> thanks, I'll do that
[22:28] <dfgas> anyone
[22:28] <Oer> flahs nonfree and java 6
[22:29] <noah_> dfgas: I just install restricted-extras
[22:29] <dfgas> hmmm, maybe my problem is that i am using 64bit ubuntu
[22:29] <Oer> available tru restricted extra's indeed
[22:29] <dfgas> but i know videos don't work sometimes
[22:30] <xangua> dfgas: you need to download flash por 64 bits from adobe's web
[22:30] <dfgas> in 10.4 i think i saw it on apt
[22:30] <dfgas> xangua, do you use it?
[22:30] <xangua> dfgas: no, i use 32 bits
[22:30] <dfgas> ahh
[22:31] <dfgas> i will try 64 bit then
[22:31] <dfgas> thank you
[22:32] <dfgas> Oer, sun java 6?
[22:32] <Oer> is there any other java ?
[22:32] <dfgas> hmmm
[22:32] <dfgas> i thought there was another one
[22:32] <mah2223> hi guys- after accidentally installing some unofficial updates/patches, i get 'Mount of root filesystem failed.' !!
[22:32] <mah2223> any ideas??
[22:33] <liliana__> ola
[22:33] <dfgas> k well i will try then
[22:33] <albacker> do you think apt-get dist-upgrade works well?
[22:33] <dfgas> may reinstall just to have fresh install
[22:33] <liliana__> ey how are you
[22:33] <albacker> dfgas, i know that's why i'm asking.. :)
[22:34] <albacker> and btw is lucid out yet?
[22:34] <Chetic> where/how do I change the default appearance settings for a guest session? (wanna impress people at a party on friday with ubuntu)
[22:34] <Alcor> ubuntu-offtopic has +r set = must be registered
[22:34] <sp0spo> hdparm works with my western digital drives to change the acustic , but I cannot change the acustic on my seagate drives, anyone know any more insight on this?
[22:34] <mah2223> hi guys- after accidentally installing some unofficial updates/patches, i get 'Mount of root filesystem failed.' !! any ideas??
[22:36] <mah2223> please help! i need my ubuntu back so i can continue working for finals! anyone there??
[22:36] <Alcor> mah2223 reload?
[22:36] <mah2223> hey thank you alcor
[22:36] <mah2223> what do you mean by that??
[22:36] <daftykins> mah2223: got a livecd?
[22:37] <mah2223> i have a netbook so i would have to use external drive- is that the only way?
[22:37] <mah2223> what would i do after booting live
[22:37] <Alcor> mah2223 reload your system - anything that was changed after the updates could still be there if you removed the update...
[22:38] <Alcor> mah2223 do u have a list of the updates u applied?
[22:39] <Typos_King> mah2223:   I'd say do a disk check   ->   sudo e2fsck -c /dev/INSTALLPARTITION;
[22:39] <daftykins> mah2223: do you have a separate /home ?
[22:39] <mah2223> no, is there any way for me to get that for you?
[22:39] <mah2223> im not sure what you mean by separate /home
[22:39] <mah2223> and you mean do a disk check after booting live?
[22:39] <Capt_Blackwood> what channel is the party on?
[22:40] <Hariharakadan> #Ubuntu-release-party
[22:40] <Chetic> how do I change the default appearance settings for a guest session?
[22:42] <alessandro_> buonasera
[22:43] <alessandro_> come faccio a sostituire xubuntu con ubuntu?
[22:43] <LjL> !it | alessandro_
[22:43] <k-hyoga> alessandro, questo è il canale internazionale, prova su #ubuntu-it
[22:43] <k-hyoga> nice
[22:45] <daftykins> mah2223: is your /home partition separate from / (root) ?
[22:46] <felon> how do i get a process to start on boot up. if my system happins to go down for any reason
[22:47] <zzypot> how to i killa  process in ubuntu
[22:47] <erUSUL> zzypot: pkill processname
[22:47] <Slart> !boot | felon
[22:47] <paddy> i have this strange problem where every bittorrent client i install hangs and becomes a zombie
[22:47] <zzypot> my ubuntu login screen froze
[22:47] <felon> lol.
[22:47] <zzypot> what is going on
[22:47] <paddy> zzypot kill -9 PID
[22:47] <zzypot> paddy my screen froze
[22:47] <zzypot> what is going on
[22:48] <paddy> zzypot restart
[22:48] <kwtm> How can I find out what the Ubuntu Firefox updates are for my Lucid?  Is it on the Ubuntu website somewhere?
[22:48] <zzypot> idid power down
[22:48] <zzypot> on my laptop shows blinking lights
[22:48] <daftykins> kwtm: aptitude changelog <package>
[22:48] <zzypot> and it looks like something is locked
[22:48] <paddy> zzypot scratch that ctrl+alt+F!
[22:48] <kwtm> daftykins: Thanks.  WIll try.
[22:48] <paddy> zzypot scratch that ctrl+alt+F1
[22:48] <erUSUL> zzypot: maybe a kernel panic
[22:49] <zzypot> still not working
[22:49] <Typos_King> kwtm:   if you have ff installed, it does all that automatically, or you can do it manually I think, under Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Updates
[22:49] <paddy> zzypotwhat happens when you do ctrl+alt+F1
[22:49] <zzypot> nothing
[22:50] <zzypot> i just did a power down
[22:50] <paddy> zzypot turn it on
[22:51] <felon> im talking bout a simple bg process on boot up
[22:51] <kwtm> Typos_King: Not sure what you mean.  I have used firefox a few times and it did not automatically describe to me what sort of modifications Ubuntu had added to Firefox.  All it said was that these modifications existed.
[22:51] <felon> i want it to automaticly start
[22:51] <kwtm> Btw I love the scrolling on the laptop touchpad with two fingers!  Much better than the old way.
[22:51] <Typos_King> kwtm:   under Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Updates, has a Show History button :|
[22:52] <benkevan> can anyone here help me with setting up certificate authentication to wireless? the whole process including exporting the private keys from Active Directory?
[22:52] <Typos_King> kwtm:   meh, I still prefer a mouse over the touchpad anytime :P
[22:52] <Slart> felon: what's wrong with the "To add your own startup scripts, use..." from what ubottu said?
[22:53] <kwtm> Typos_King: Mine has no Show History button under Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Updates.  (Oh, and I like the mouse, too, when I'm not sitting in a cramped airplane.)
[22:53] <kwtm> Typos_King: (but at least tapping on the mousepad doesn't accidently result in a "click" any more)
[22:53] <felon> so use " bum " to auto start a bg process on boot up ?
[22:53] <paddy> i have installed two bittorrent clients and they both die the same way
[22:53] <jiffe1> in freebsd I was able to use edquota to change quotas on a range of user ids, is that possible with the quota system in linux?
[22:55] <Typos_King> kwtm:  no Show Update History?   I have 3.5.5.... it does, either way, I don't think the updates are provided by the ubuntu repositories anyway, those are provided by mozilla's
[22:55] <Typos_King> kwtm:   you can always get the new one from mozilla's site, it's just one .bz2 archive, you unzip and run, no install needed
[22:56] <kwtm> Typos_King: I have 3.6.3.  Under Tools > Add-ons, it shows (among the other firefox extensions) Ubuntu FIrefox Modifications 0.9rc2
[22:56] <Chetic> how do I change the default appearance settings for a guest session?
[22:56] <zenta> hello all
[22:56] <Dragzard> Hello Zenta.
[22:57] <artemios> hello folks!
[22:57] <Typos_King> kwtm:  ... ahe.... I see.... well. I installed mine from mozilla's site :|
[22:58] <KaOSoFt> What's the best TeX distribution for Linux? I know MiKTeX, but it only works on Windows.
[22:58] <artemios> i've installed ubuntu just now. But how can i install KDE plasma desktop?
[22:58] <xangua> artemios: do you installed ubuntu or Kubuntu¿
[22:58] <artemios> xangua, ubuntu
[22:59] <aj00200> My problem is that every time I try to download anything form the Ubuntu Software Center, I get the following error: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." How do I fix this?
[22:59] <jzacsh> anyone have success with the syncML (missing link) tool and a blackberry? -- http://www.estamos.de/projects/SyncML/   --- i've fiddled without, but not seriously
[23:00] <zenta> i installed redhat and ubuntu form long time and i work fine but something is happen that i cant see the reboot choise of redhat, and ubuntu only i found windows so i cant login again to any of them after i installed ubuntu inside windows i made recovery i found rehat and ubuntu but i cant see them when computer is started
[23:00] <cdw32> I need to create a usb image can anyone suggest a program?
[23:01] <jzacsh> cdw32: what exactly do you need to do?
[23:01] <Scunizi> How do you "ls" just directories?
[23:01] <erUSUL> Scunizi: ls */
[23:01] <Alcor> ls -ld?
[23:01] <jzacsh> Scunizi: `man ls` shows -d option
[23:01] <cdw32> jzacsh: i need to install 9.10 as an iso image
[23:01] <maco> Scunizi: ls -F | grep /$
[23:01] <Scunizi> erUSUL: sort of.. didn't want to see what was in each directory individually..
[23:01] <erUSUL> Scunizi: this  "ls -d */"
[23:02] <jzacsh> cdw32: try unetbootin
[23:02]  * maco adds "-d" to mental list of cool things
[23:02] <Scunizi> TA DA!  erUSUL you get the gold star .. that last one worked..
[23:02] <cdw32> jzacsh: is it a simple download
[23:02] <felon> today is not my day
[23:02]  * erUSUL makes room for his new gold star
[23:02] <zenta> any body understood my Q ?
[23:03] <hesekiel> -
[23:03] <artemios> Folks, how can i install KDE plasma desktop?
[23:03] <xangua> artemios: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <Chetic> how do I change the default appearance settings for a guest session?
[23:03] <cdw32> jzacsh: i downloaded that a little but ago and it wont let me run the program
[23:03] <Scunizi> maco: your's worked too with a totally different view on the terminal then erUSUL 's suggestion.  thanks
[23:03] <jzacsh> cdw32: what won't let you run it?
[23:04] <jzacsh> so, anyone try the syncML tool?
[23:04] <erUSUL> Scunizi: the colors do not work when ls is piped
[23:04] <zenta> hello again
[23:04] <hesekiel> hi@
[23:04] <cdw32> jzacsh: when i click on the icon on the desktop it says there is no application for this file type
[23:04] <artemios> xangua, ok. Is it last version of KDE plasma desktop?
[23:05] <Scunizi> erUSUL: true.. however the are "nice" red colored "/" at the end of each directory.. not sure what that means though.
[23:05] <jzacsh> cdw32: which operating system are you using, to try and run it?
[23:05] <Scunizi> ls
[23:05] <xangua> artemios: depends the version of ubuntu you are using
[23:05] <cdw32> 8.04
[23:05] <erUSUL> Scunizi: yu have color enabled in grep by default?
[23:05] <Scunizi> erUSUL: looks like it (kubuntu)
[23:05] <artemios> xangua, 9.10 is my version
[23:12] <erUSUL> _pHI_: #ubuntu+1
[23:12] <Capt_Blackwood> How do you make a desktop wallpaper slideshow
[23:12] <Capt_Blackwood> ?
[23:12] <erUSUL> dominicdinada: « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 »
[23:13] <erUSUL> dominicdinada: while connected to internet
[23:13] <aj00200> My problem is that every time I try to download anything form the Ubuntu Software Center, I get the following error: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." How do I fix this?
[23:13] <jzacsh> dominicdinada: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[23:13] <Sabre-Edge> hey anyone knows at what time the official release will be released?
[23:13] <canozan> hello, i want to see the history of my terminal, but not only the commands history, also what was printed when i used that command. Do you have any idea? is it possible?
[23:13] <jzacsh> dominicdinada: in my opinion, with broadcom & ubuntu, you've got a pita
[23:13] <dominicdinada> pita?
[23:13] <jzacsh> dominicdinada: i've done it though, and had no problems, and i've done it and experience problems. so, its worth a try
[23:13] <erUSUL> canozan: you have to use script at the begin of the "session" you want to record
[23:13] <Typos_King> Sabre-Edge:   sometime before friday, just wait till friday and you'll find it :P
[23:14] <jzacsh> dominicdinada: pain*
[23:14] <Sabre-Edge> hehe thanks ause hre where i live its past midight and the counter says it will be available soon
[23:15] <Guest53826> Which counter?
[23:15] <erUSUL> dominicdinada: « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 » while connected to internet qnd the card should work
[23:15] <dominicdinada> and I am sorry i asked for an expert I have spent months trouble shooting and following all of those howtos and none worked up until 2 days ago I have used ndiswrapper and windows drivers but i uninstalled wine and installed kubuntu-desktop and it killed my broadcom drivers :/
[23:15] <erUSUL> !outyet
[23:15] <Sabre-Edge> the one on the ubuntu webpage
[23:15] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... is there is a big difference between ubuntu and ubuntuStudio ... or just tools ?
[23:15] <jzacsh> dominicdinada: the first thing I would try is the driver that "detect hardware" comes with -- if that's not too great, then try what erUSUL just suggested
[23:15] <Sabre-Edge> here its already 29th
[23:15] <CaptainTrek> on your time
[23:15] <canozan> notice <erUSUL> <so it is not recorded automaticly and there is no way that i can see what was printed on my terminal yesterday?>
[23:15] <zenta> soooo no body know my Q ???
[23:15] <Guest53826> zenta: 42
[23:15] <CaptainTrek> worst case is 11:59 PM UTC-10
[23:16] <fabio_> im instaling the  beta release
[23:16] <Typos_King> Sabre-Edge:   what?   you took a plane over the behring strait? :P
[23:16] <fabio_> urayyy
[23:16] <fabio_> !
[23:16] <Sabre-Edge> Malta
[23:16] <erUSUL> canozan: right
[23:16] <Sabre-Edge> I'm from Malta
[23:16] <zenta> yes Guest53826
[23:16] <Sabre-Edge> hehe
[23:16] <erUSUL> canozan: the commands you typed are recorded; the output is not
[23:16] <dominicdinada> i had gotten things to a somewhat working point.............. but then rebooted and now back to nothing it seems something is controlling my hardware keys to power up the internal wireless niv
[23:16] <h4f> how do I move my /boot folder to my new /boot partition ?
[23:17] <canozan> notice <erUSUL> <thank you, although this is not good news for me :)>
[23:17] <cdw32> jzacsh: hey im back
[23:17] <erUSUL> h4f: sudo cp -aR /boot/ /new/boot/ ?
[23:17] <jzacsh> cdw32: worked, with synaptic?
[23:17] <Aggelos> should i stay awake to receive ubuntu 10 LTS ?
[23:17] <h4f> erUSUL: yeap but will it boot after ?
[23:17] <fabio_> anyone here use the new beta?
[23:17] <Typos_King> Sabre-Edge:   ubuntu releases are meant to be scheduled about 6months you know, if you want the latest and newest, you will need a time-machine, otherwise, nevermind what version when, 10.04, 11 whatever, just get it whenever it 's out, it will be in less than 48hrs, so
[23:17] <erUSUL> canozan: you do not need the notice just the nick is enough :)
[23:17] <jzacsh> Aggelos: no
[23:18] <cdw32> jzacsh: synaptic does not show it as a package
[23:18] <h4f> erUSUL:  I need to change boot partition from / to /boot
[23:18] <erUSUL> h4f: moving boot paritions around does not make ubuntu boot faster
[23:18] <jzacsh> cdw32: it could be a third party peice of software
[23:18] <cdw32> ok
 <oh i am new here, thanks again>
[23:18] <zenta> no body know my Q ??
[23:18] <h4f> erUSUL:  yeap I know. that's not what I want
[23:18] <erUSUL> canozan: no problem
[23:18] <Sabre-Edge> I know but i've kinda been waiting for it
[23:18] <maco> Aggelos: if the last few releases are any indication, got about 24h to go
[23:18] <jzacsh> cdw32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Third-Party%20Software%20Tab
[23:18] <kiall> humms ... wondering what this is mirroring claims to be 10.04 ;) http://mirror1.ku.ac.th/lucid/ .. (someone linked... I'm not searching for a leak!)
[23:19] <zenta> hello Sabre-Edge
[23:19] <jiffe1> in freebsd I was able to use edquota to change quotas on a range of user ids, is that possible with the quota system in linux?
[23:19] <kwtm> How come when I "sudo apt-get upgrade", it says the following have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic (among many others).
[23:19] <tolecnal> kiall: never trust anything that isn't from an official repository
[23:19] <kwtm> Isn't "linux-generic", like, the kernel update?
[23:20] <cdw32> jzacsh: i dont know if this means anything, but now i cant get my flash drive to mount
[23:20] <kiall> tolecnal, of course! thats why I was asking where it could be mirroring from
[23:20] <Aggelos>  i see ! thanks guys ! keep up the good work!
[23:20] <ux2> hello. when will be lucid lynx out?
[23:20] <Hillshum> kwtm: Those packages depend on packages that aren't installed. apt-get upgrade will never install new packages
[23:20] <Hillshum> !isitoutyet | ux2
[23:20] <jzacsh> cdw32: i'm not sure how that's related
[23:20] <erUSUL> kwtm: maybe you have the proposed repo enabled ?
[23:20] <jzacsh> cdw32: you didn't mention any problems with your flash drive. you only mentioned problems getting unetbootin to launch
[23:20] <kwtm> Hillshum: Oh, I see!  So if I wanted them installed, I'd say "apt-get install linux-generic" and it would auto-install the dependencies?
[23:20] <Hillshum> kwtm: Yup
[23:21] <Hillshum> or use apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:22] <jzacsh> cdw32: anyway, i have to go. stick to this (these pages can't have more information than I do) -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[23:22] <cdw32> jzacsh: those pages are what got me into this
[23:22] <cdw32> lol
[23:22] <felon> how do i find out how many users are loggin in
[23:23] <linnoui> felon: use the "who" command
[23:23] <josh_k> felon: w
[23:23] <zenta> felon just write who
[23:24] <linnoui> hi, is there an ubuntu kernel with grsecurity patches ?
[23:24] <zenta> felon: also u can use " w" will give u more detail
[23:25] <Scunizi> sebsebseb: ping .. you around?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Scunizi: yes
[23:25] <Scunizi> sebsebseb: can I PM?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Scunizi: of course
[23:26] <erUSUL> linnoui: no
[23:26] <meway> http://www.givemepoints.net/?i=247666
[23:27] <Scunizi> sebsebseb: window should be open now.
[23:27] <kwtm> Isn't Lucid out today?  Apr 29>
[23:28] <kwtm> Apr29?, I mean?
[23:28] <macman_> hi all .. i know a lot of you guys have windows via vmware / wine or something .. what is the prefered method of install windows in ubuntu .. i need it for an application
[23:28] <casa> como se crea una distribucion casera
[23:29] <canozan> i need help with my hard drives partitions, everything is messed up and i cannot boot into my windows 7 partition
[23:29] <linnoui> macman_: you can use virtualbox
[23:29] <ShexNivis> kwtm: be pacient : )
[23:29] <kwtm> ShexNivis: Oh, I'm just asking out of curiosity.  I'm already using Lucid. :)
[23:29] <canozan> it was 196 GB and now it seems to be 30 GB, also gparted shows my entire harddisk as unallocated
[23:31] <meowbuntu> i am having issues setting up grub/grub2 any experts here
[23:31] <erUSUL> !es | casa
[23:32] <MrPockets> Helloh!
[23:32] <erUSUL> !hi
[23:32] <ShexNivis> meowbuntu: #grub
[23:32] <meowbuntu> ah thanks ShexNivis
[23:32] <ShexNivis> no problem
[23:33] <zenta> ubottu: i asked many Q but no body answer why ?
[23:33] <zenta> all , why no body answerd my Q ?
[23:34] <MrPockets> Lets say I've got Ubuntu on a PC with 2 nics. One is plugged into the network. I also have a PC with no way to get an uplink in this location
[23:34] <ShexNivis> zenta: whats your question?
[23:34] <mpuser> So, what time tomorrow will 10.04 be released?
[23:34] <MrPockets> If i connect the other nic to this PC with no connectivity,  can I bridge the connections to get network traffic through the Ubuntu box to the othe rPC?
[23:34] <zenta> shexnivis: thanks i will write now
[23:34] <ShexNivis> mpuser: I dont think they announced a time for it
[23:35] <canozan> can anyone help me recover my partitions which exist but seem as unallocated with gparted?
[23:35] <bitbomb> I can barely contain myself over the 10.04 releaswe
[23:35] <ZykoticK9> mpuser, the "time" is never known, only the date
[23:35] <bitbomb> release even
[23:35] <zenta> i have 2 linux installed but i can found the choise when the computer is boot only found windows
[23:35] <felon> "top" terminal command, i like it lots of info
[23:35] <MrPockets> cannonball, not really
[23:35]  * BlackBishop googles for 10.04 rtm iso
[23:35] <MrPockets> What happened?
[23:36] <zenta> ShexNivis: got my Q ?
[23:36] <felon> is it out yet ?
[23:36] <bitbomb> felon: Tomorrow
[23:36] <ShexNivis> zenta do you get a grub menu when you turn your computer on or does it go straight to windows?
[23:36] <BlackBishop> will there be any more changes to the iso besides what's already in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ?
[23:36] <zenta> yes go staright to windows
[23:36] <mpuser> ZykoticK9: what time zone is the date in?
[23:37] <mpuser> bitbomb: it's already tomorrow in Japan
[23:37] <ShexNivis> zenta: which one you installed first? linux or windows?
[23:37] <canozan> can anyone help me recover my partitions which exist but seem as unallocated with gparted?
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> mpuser, doesn't really matter - they have until the 29th somewhere in the world, and it's consider on-time
[23:37] <vernr> is there anywhere I can find out what all the various background processes are in ubuntu so I can cut down overhead a little?
[23:37] <ffixcollector> This is my first time using IRC, can anyone give me a few pointers?
[23:37] <zenta> ShexNivis: windows.
[23:38] <ramenfan123> will 10.0 be availble at midnight for each timezone?
[23:38] <bitbomb> mpuser: when it's april 29th or later worldwide
[23:38] <ZykoticK9> ramenfan123, no - just sometime on the 29th
[23:38] <bitbomb> mpuser: better? :)
[23:38] <ramenfan123> mmk
[23:38] <ramenfan123> thx
[23:38] <mpuser> bitbomb: no, I'm disappoint
[23:38] <bitbomb> mpuser: I wish I could help you. I'm sorry you're disappointed.
[23:38] <ShexNivis> zenta: Did they grub stopped worked or never worked at all?
[23:38] <bitbomb> mpuser: It wouldn't come out at the stroke of midnight or anything anyway
[23:39] <vi_> file:///home/vi/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%B9%20%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB/_______1.png
[23:39] <bitbomb> mpuser: Trust me, I'll be checking all day, I can't wait.
[23:39] <vernr> is there anywhere I can find out what all the various background processes in ubuntu are so I can cut down overhead a little?
[23:39] <mpuser> bitbomb: it's a joke (meme - google it if curioous)
[23:39] <vi_> help me
[23:39] <canozan> can anyone help me recover my partitions which exist but seem as unallocated with gparted?
[23:39] <bitbomb> mpuser: I got that it was a joke, but I totally missed the meme!
[23:39] <ShexNivis> zenta: the grub*
[23:39] <bitbomb> mpuser: haha
[23:39] <zenta> ShexNivis: but after i installed ubuntu inside windows i found it in grub so i select it and i did recovery mode i found all old linux and i can run it just when i go to recovery mode
[23:40] <zoug> canozan: sudo apt-get install testdisk  and then man testdisk.
[23:40] <vi_> what?
[23:40] <hypetech> Anybody know what would cause my Ubuntu 9.10 to not show the login prompt on the login screen all of a sudden anymore? :( The background is still there
[23:40] <aj00200> My problem is that every time I try to download anything form the Ubuntu Software Center, I get the following error: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." How do I fix this?
[23:40] <miguel000> hello , Im in xubuntu live and try to fix my grub! however i get : grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /.
[23:40] <felon> yes bitbomb one day
[23:41] <miguel000> what does this grub error mean?
[23:41] <ShexNivis> zenta: maybe this can help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[23:41] <zenta> ShexNivis: but if i unstall ubuntu form inside windows i cant enter again, and the old linux its installed in deffrint partation
[23:41] <rkay> anyone know when exactly the 10.04 release will go live? is it at 00:00 UTC?
[23:41] <mincevv> Anybody has a clue when 10.04 will be available?
[23:41] <bitbomb-afk> chill w/you cats later
[23:41] <LjL> !isitout | rkat
[23:42] <maco> rkay, mincevv : at some point while it is 29 April in at least one timezone on Planet Earth
[23:42] <rkay> thanks ubottu
[23:42] <zenta> ShexNivis: ok i will see thanks and sorry for distrib
[23:42] <vi_> pleas help me, ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64
[23:42] <ShexNivis> aj00200: you can either authentiticate them or remove then if you dont use
[23:42] <mincevv> maco: :( will travel to other planet
[23:42] <ShexNivis> authenticate*
[23:42] <aj00200> ShexNivis: the strange thing is that this happens to every package. How do I authenticate them?
[23:43] <maco> mincevv: one that spins fast enough for that not to be 49 hours?
[23:43] <vi_> people?
[23:43] <ShexNivis> miguel000:  what command you used before that out
[23:43] <ShexNivis> miguel000:  what command you used before that output*
[23:44] <mincevv> maco: right... small one so I can outrun it's rotation
[23:44] <miguel000> ShexNivis, sudo update-grub
[23:44] <vi_> help me i lost on the linux a-a-a-a-a
[23:45] <dominicdinada> hmmmm
[23:45] <Sudo22> Anyone know if it's possible to log the access to a file?? like which user open or modify a specific file
[23:45] <ShexNivis> miguel000: what grub you trying to recover? 1 or 2?
[23:45] <aj00200> ShexNivis: the strange thing is that this happens to every package. How do I authenticate them?
[23:45] <miguel000> ShexNivis, the xubuntu I have comes with grub2
[23:45] <benkevan> can anyone here help me with setting up certificate authentication to wireless? the whole process including exporting the private keys from Active Directory?
[23:46] <vi_> you hear me?
[23:46] <reallycool> I'm sorry for probably being the 50th or so person to ask this, but when does 10.4 release?
[23:46] <miguel000> and sorry, the command was: sudo update-grub2
[23:46] <ShexNivis> aj00200: check your sources and try to find out wich one is not authenticate
[23:46] <ShexNivis> d
[23:46] <Typos_King> !outyet | really_not_cool
[23:46] <benkevan> can anyone here help me with setting up certificate authentication to wireless? the whole process including exporting the private keys from Active Directory?
[23:46] <kimmo> vi_: Everybody hears you :)
[23:47] <miguel000> ShexNivis, update-grub2
[23:47] <benkevan> I keep getting: access point 'accesspoint' has security, but secrets are required.
[23:47] <vi_> thank you))
[23:48] <ShexNivis> miguel000: sorry cant be of much help, last time I did that was on the legancy grub ; /
[23:48] <aj00200> vi_ what do you need help with?
[23:48] <ervis> anyone download U 10.4 ?
[23:48] <benkevan> 10.04?
[23:48] <miguel000> ShexNivis, alllrighty thx
[23:48] <ervis> yes
[23:49] <dominicdinada> what the Fawk is this winbindd and why does it still persist when i removed ndiswrapper and wine and all of the drivers :(
[23:49] <ShexNivis> miguel000: you following the howto from help.ubuntu...?
[23:49] <benkevan> Yes.. I have.. and Yes.. I installed it.. and Yes I'm using it
[23:49] <benkevan> and yes it seems stable
[23:49] <vi_> how it is sorry that I understand English not very much((((. yes me need help)
[23:49] <ervis> im on main page but not see the link
[23:49] <benkevan> ervis: Not officially released until tomorrow
[23:49] <aj00200> vi_: Just ask your question. Saying that you need help doesn't let us help you.
[23:50] <vi_> for me a problem is with setting of drivers
[23:50] <ervis> benkevan, in my country is 29 :)
[23:50] <aj00200> vi_: drivers for what?
[23:50] <dominicdinada> 29th in the western world
[23:50] <vi_> ati 9550
[23:51] <benkevan> what dominicdinada said
[23:51] <aj00200> ShexNivis: I think it is more the lack of a authentication key. How do I get the normals ones back?
[23:51] <vi_> videographics
[23:51] <dominicdinada> western hemisphere
[23:51] <miguel000> ShexNivis,  thx anyway
[23:51] <firemonkey> debian has mucho better support for ati drivers
[23:51] <firemonkey> don't know why
[23:51] <jo_> i wonder if ati will work better with wine???
[23:51] <aj00200> vi_: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[23:51] <Typos_King> the western hemisphere?   one may note alaska doesn't have the same time as germany
[23:52] <ShexNivis> aj00200: you dont need to authenticate the original repository sources just the ones you add from 3rd parties
[23:52] <xomp> guys, how would I update my version of PHP? I currently run PHP 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Jan  6 2010 22:01:14)
[23:52] <aj00200> ShexNivis: I'm not installing anything from 3ed parties.
[23:52] <dominicdinada> hmmm when i start killing processes is there any i should watch out for ?
[23:53] <kimmo> vi_: There is most likely a channel where you can get support in your own language. Example, if you are russian, try #ubuntu-ru
[23:53] <cartmanius> hello
[23:53] <ShexNivis> aj00200: you sure you don't have anything on your sources.list or sources.d?
[23:53] <cartmanius> hello something?
[23:54] <xomp> !hi | cartmanius
[23:54] <aj00200> Shex: well, the only thing I have changed with this is adding the Debian Squeeze PPA, which is now disabled. Some things seems to be working better, but a lot of things still wont install.
[23:54] <cartmanius> something speak spanish
[23:54] <xomp> !es | cartmanius
[23:55] <uLinux> mira
[23:55] <BlackBishop> 2am 29th here .. no 10.04 yet ..
[23:55] <cartmanius> gracias xomp
[23:55] <vi_> i download driver  ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64 ,but he gives out an error "<kimmo> vi_: There is most likely a channel where you can get support in your own language. Example, if you are russian, try #ubuntu-ru"
[23:55] <xomp> cartmanius, de notta :P
[23:56] <Drabzz> Greets
[23:56] <vi_> I tested all codes
[23:56] <funflo512> 0:56 AM here
[23:56] <funflo512> still no 10.04
[23:56] <xomp> lol
[23:57] <dominicdinada> 29th in the western world
[23:57] <alien260> hello, dose anyone know how to change a theme in irssi client
[23:57] <dominicdinada> western hemisphere
[23:57] <felon> will 10.04 be in iso form tomorrow when its released ?
[23:57] <funflo512> I'm in France
[23:57] <felon> I'm in space
[23:57] <xangua> !ot
[23:57] <vi_> one question not on the topic this Americans speak on this chat))))))))))))))))))))?
[23:57] <Drabzz> I'm in cyberspace
[23:57]  * dominicdinada clock reads 6pm april 28th here
[23:58] <felon> 7 here
[23:58] <dominicdinada> lol felon
[23:58] <felon> lol.
[23:58] <uLinux> !lol
[23:58] <dancallo> dfgas: Adobe Flash 9 and SunJava 6jre
[23:58] <dominicdinada> Sorry
[23:58] <vi_> lol))
[23:58] <lukian123> when 10.4 final will be available for download?
[23:59] <dominicdinada> 29th in the western world
[23:59] <uLinux> When the new ubuntu version will be available?
[23:59] <dominicdinada> 29th in the western world
[23:59] <felon> wtf.
[23:59] <theGman> Hello, new to ubuntu...in Fedora/RHEL (and others) I can do rpm -q <pkg name> to see if something is intalled...is there something similar in ubuntu?
[23:59] <dagon_> western world?
[23:59] <dagon_> does Sweden count as a part of that?
[23:59] <ervis> you must wait about 6 hours
[23:59] <h00k> felon: please watch the langauge, obfuscated swearing is still swearing.