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Ursinha#startmeeting17:00
daniloskoo17:00
UrsinhaWelcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.17:00
MootBotMeeting started at 11:00. The chair is Ursinha.17:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]17:00
Ursinha[TOPIC] Roll Call17:00
UrsinhaNot on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us!17:00
MootBotNew Topic:  Roll Call17:00
* rockstar 17:00
Ursinhame me17:00
EdwinGrubbsme17:00
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matsubarame17:01
Ursinhamatsubara, Chex, bigjools, hello17:01
Ursinha:)17:01
danilosme17:01
allenapme17:01
* Ursinha throws a shoe on bigjools 17:01
* bigjools dodges the shoe and returns fire with a custard pie17:02
Chexme17:02
Ursinhaso we're all here hehe17:02
Ursinha[TOPIC] Agenda17:02
Ursinha * Actions from last meeting17:02
Ursinha * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts17:02
Ursinha * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)17:02
Ursinha * DBA report (stub)17:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Agenda17:02
Ursinha * QA stats of the week17:02
Ursinha * Proposed items17:02
Ursinha[TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting17:02
MootBotNew Topic:  * Actions from last meeting17:02
Ursinha* allenap to follow up with deryck about bug 23010617:02
Ursinha* gary_poster to triage bug 56845617:02
Ursinha* Chex to work with gary_poster or salgado to sort out how to use the meliae hooks to debug librarian and LP memory leaks17:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230106 in malone "emails interface oops reports need better error messages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23010617:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 568456 in launchpad-foundations "GpgmeError raised importing public gpg key" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56845617:02
Ursinha* matsubara to ask stub for the DBA report17:02
Ursinha    * Done.17:02
Ursinha* matsubara to update qa stats in the MeetingAgenda page17:02
Ursinha    * Done.17:02
Ursinhabug 568456 is triaged, so done17:03
UrsinhaI'll be talking about bug 230106 in the oops section17:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230106 in malone "emails interface oops reports need better error messages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23010617:03
Ursinhaso, moving on17:03
Ursinhaah, not that fast, Chex, was your item sorted out?17:04
UrsinhaChex, hello :)17:04
ChexUrsinha: yes It was.. I will be notifying the losa's about the17:04
Chexproper procedure for crash-dump generation on the lp servers today17:04
Ursinhathanks Chex!17:05
Ursinha[TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts17:05
MootBotNew Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts17:05
ChexI touched base with salgado today17:05
Ursinhathe most offenders are old ones17:05
Ursinhastill a lot of oopses daily due to bug 55336117:05
Ursinhamatsubara, do you know if that is going to be fixed in time for the rollout?17:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 553361 in launchpad-foundations "OOPS when accessing launchpad with no referrer, eg. via wget" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55336117:05
Ursinhathis is really annoying and it's "tainting" oops summaries :/17:05
matsubaraUrsinha, it will not17:05
Ursinhamatsubara, :(17:05
Ursinhamatsubara, do you know if that can be fixed for a CP later then?17:06
matsubaraUrsinha, always17:07
Ursinhamatsubara, not much later :)17:07
matsubaraI'll bring it up to gary on today's call17:07
Ursinhathanks a lot matsubara17:07
Ursinha[action] matsubara to talk with gary_poster about  a CP for bug 55336117:07
MootBotACTION received:  matsubara to talk with gary_poster about  a CP for bug 55336117:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 553361 in launchpad-foundations "OOPS when accessing launchpad with no referrer, eg. via wget" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55336117:07
Ursinhaalso, we're having about 270 oopses of the "None: None" kind (OOPS-1579CEMAIL1) on a daily basis17:07
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1579CEMAIL117:07
Ursinhawe cannot say what's the problem because the oops report is almost empty, and we'd need to fix bug 230106 to have more info17:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230106 in malone "emails interface oops reports need better error messages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23010617:08
Ursinhaderyck said it won't be fixed soon, but I guess that given the number of oopses maybe we should try something to diagnose that problem17:08
Ursinhaallenap, any suggestions?17:08
allenapUrsinha: I'll bump the bug up to High and explain why. It is scheduled to happen soon, this will make it happen sooner.17:08
Ursinhaor anyone else17:08
Ursinhathanks a lot allenap17:09
matsubaraUrsinha, of course we know what's the problem17:09
matsubarait's bug 54005, isn't it?17:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 54005 in launchpad-foundations "bugs.launchpad.ubuntu.com email ending up in Launchpad mailbox" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5400517:09
Ursinhamatsubara, no, we're not sure because the bug is too old17:09
matsubarathe fact they show up a None None is 23010617:09
Ursinhayes, that's what I said :) we need to fix 230106 in order to find out if the 270 oopses are really 5400517:10
Ursinha[action] allenap to bump bug 230106 to High and explain why17:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230106 in malone "emails interface oops reports need better error messages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23010617:10
MootBotACTION received:  allenap to bump bug 230106 to High and explain why17:10
matsubaraUrsinha, we don't need bug 230106 fixed to fix bug 5400517:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 54005 in launchpad-foundations "bugs.launchpad.ubuntu.com email ending up in Launchpad mailbox" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5400517:11
Ursinhamatsubara, read what I said again :)17:12
matsubarait's either 54005 is invalid because it's too old or we re-purpose it to fix OOPS-1579CEMAIL117:12
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1579CEMAIL117:12
Ursinhawe're having a higher number of timeouts as well, about 800, and that doesn't seem to be specific to a part of launchpad17:12
matsubaraI'm disagreeing that 230106 needs to fixed first17:12
Ursinhamatsubara, I didn't say that we need to fix one to fix the other, I said we need to fix one to be able to see if the oopses are really the other17:13
Ursinhadoes anyone have a clue about the higher number of timeouts?17:13
matsubaraand that's what I'm disagreeing about17:14
Ursinhamatsubara, are you sure that oops is 54005?17:14
Ursinhanot all oopses None None are bugs email17:15
matsubarapretty sure, but as I said, one doesn't need to be sure to fix OOPS-1579CEMAIL117:15
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1579CEMAIL117:15
matsubarayes, some are from the spec tracker17:15
matsubarawhich is also mentioned in the bug report17:15
Ursinhamatsubara, we discussed that two meetings ago, I guess, that's where this conclusion came from17:16
Ursinhamatsubara, but of course, you can discuss that bug with gary as well, that would be much appreciated :)17:17
matsubaraok17:18
Ursinha[action] matsubara to discuss bug 54005 with gary_poster17:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 54005 in launchpad-foundations "bugs.launchpad.ubuntu.com email ending up in Launchpad mailbox" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5400517:18
MootBotACTION received:  matsubara to discuss bug 54005 with gary_poster17:18
Ursinhabigjools, distributionmirror-prober script has failed twice today, is that under soyuz?17:18
bigjoolsUrsinha: registry17:19
Ursinhabigjools, thanks17:19
UrsinhaEdwinGrubbs, do you know what's going on with distributionmirror-prober script, that failed twice today?17:19
EdwinGrubbsUrsinha: no, I don't know anything about it. can you point me at the error messages? I'll look into it.17:20
UrsinhaEdwinGrubbs, sure, I'll do that as soon as the meeting finishes, thanks!17:20
Ursinhawe have no critical bugs! yay!17:21
UrsinhaI'm moving on17:21
Ursinhathanks guys17:21
Ursinha[TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)17:21
MootBotNew Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)17:21
* Ursinha hands Chex the mic17:21
UrsinhaChex, stage is empty, c'mon17:23
Chexhello everyone17:23
daniloshello Chex17:24
Chexit was a quiet week LP-wise as us LOSA's were in release prep all week.17:24
ChexI just have these incidents to report:17:24
Chex - LP incidents of note: : 22-Apr: CP 9194 to librarian : 25-Apr: each app server on wampee using > 1.1G RSS - restarted17:24
ChexDoes Anyone have any questions or comments for us?17:25
Ursinhaanyone?17:25
Ursinhathanks Chex17:26
Ursinha[TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)17:26
MootBotNew Topic:  * DBA report (stub)17:26
UrsinhaI sent one email to stub asking for the report17:26
Ursinhanext :)17:26
Ursinha[TOPIC] * QA stats of the week17:26
MootBotNew Topic:  * QA stats of the week17:26
Ursinhalaunchpadlib: 1017:26
Ursinhalaunchpad-buildd: 1017:26
Ursinhalp-dev-utils: 917:26
Ursinhalaunchpad-dev-moin-theme: 617:26
Ursinhalaunchpad-code: 517:26
Ursinhasoyuz: 417:26
Ursinhamalone: 417:26
Ursinhalaunchpad-registry: 317:26
Ursinhalp-qa-tools: 317:26
Ursinhalpbuildbot: 217:27
Ursinhatrac-launchpad-migrator: 217:27
Ursinhalaunchpad-news-wordpress-theme: 217:27
Ursinhalaunchpad-help-moin-theme: 217:27
Ursinhalaunchpad-cscvs: 217:27
Ursinhalaunchpad-loggerhead: 117:27
Ursinhalaunchpad-documentation: 117:27
Ursinhatickcount: 117:27
Ursinhaso I guess we're doing pretty well triaging, those numbers look better every week17:27
UrsinhaI'll triage the lp-qa-tools ones17:27
bigjoolswhat are those numbers?17:27
Ursinhabigjools, untriaged bugs for each of those projects17:28
Ursinhabigjools, soyuz has 4 :)17:29
Ursinha[action] Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs17:29
MootBotACTION received:  Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs17:29
bigjoolsQA stats evokes something else for me17:29
Ursinhabigjools, I agree with you :) why took you so long to say that? :)17:30
bigjoolsI was trying to say it in a way that wouldn't offend :)17:30
bigjoolsnot sure I didn't fail17:30
UrsinhaUntested items per team:17:31
UrsinhaCode: 417:31
UrsinhaFoundations: 417:31
UrsinhaRegistry: 217:31
UrsinhaBugs: 617:31
UrsinhaTranslations: 317:31
UrsinhaSoyuz: 717:31
bigjools /o\17:31
UrsinhaStrategy: 117:31
Ursinhabigjools, no, that's ok :) I'm asking because I guess we're having this section of the meeting for over a month now17:32
Ursinhabigjools, not sure that helped you :P17:32
bigjools:)17:32
UrsinhaI'll try to come up with a better way to use that info here17:33
Ursinhabut I can say that all teams are pretty good comparing to past cycles :)17:33
UrsinhaI'm moving on then17:33
Ursinhabigjools, thanks :)17:33
Ursinha[TOPIC] * Proposed items17:33
MootBotNew Topic:  * Proposed items17:33
UrsinhaNone17:33
Ursinhaanyone wants to say something before this meeting closes?17:34
Ursinhaok then :)17:34
UrsinhaThank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda for the logs.17:34
Ursinha#endmeeting17:35
MootBotMeeting finished at 11:35.17:35
Ursinhathanks all, and happy Ubuntu release everyone!17:35
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