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phillwhmm, if you can mount the win partition with ubuntu, have a look around and see what is on there, defragging is always a 'hi risk' time, much as we say to back up before playing with partitions.00:02
lobinhooh, that reminds me of something I'd like to ask you guys... is there a way I could make a script for another user to execute, that would perform actions in my own account? like, I want other people to be able to run specific commands in my account when I'm not logged in, or even at home... they wouldn't be able to read or alter the script, so it doesn't matter if I have to write my password00:04
canozan_does anyone have any experince with testdisk?00:05
phillwcanozan_: I don't, but this thread has a how to & is still active http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38792200:09
Scunizicanozan_: worked for me about 2 years ago.. don't remember how to use it though.00:19
canozan_<Scunizi> i'm dying to say the same things tomorrow00:21
Scunizicanozan_: did you loose the partition info?  that's what happened to me.00:22
canozan_<Scunizi> i'm not sure, i can see my partitions on the terminal, but their sizes have changed00:22
Scunizicanozan_: can you get at the data?00:23
canozan_<Scunizi> yes, i can see my files, but i'm not sure if all of them are right there00:23
Scunizicanozan_: try copying them to a different partition on your linux side00:24
canozan_<Scunizi>yes, i'm getting my backup somewhere00:25
Scunizicanozan_: do you need windows? gaming, work etc? if not do you have the install cd? you could put it in a vm with virtualbox..00:26
canozan_<Scunizi>i need windows, at least i can reinstall it with my cd, but i want to recover it00:30
Scunizicanozan_: give that program a try.. it's sort of a last resort thing anyway.. save off all your data first00:31
starcraftmanwho said testdisK?00:32
starcraftmancanozan_: you attempting full partition recovery or your just desperate for files? Testdisk is more for recovering an fs, photorec is whats great for files.00:34
canozan_<starcraftman> i like your nick, i need windows for sc2 :) i want to recover my partitions, at least i want to be able to see them with gparted00:35
starcraftmancanozan_: danke, it is a good nick. Alright then, well I will provide you with complete explanation I gave someone else, read it as general advice not exactly for you.00:36
starcraftmancanozan_: http://tiny.cc/testds00:37
starcraftmancanozan_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step < Might be better, more pictures, I only found it AFTER writing all that.00:38
starcraftmancanozan_: before you ask, yes, took while.00:38
Vantraxholy cow batman, you werent kidding. That is a big post00:47
starcraftmanVantrax: I didn't get known for verbosity by accident :p00:50
starcraftmanalso, evening Vantrax.00:50
starcraftmanAlso also, Habs up 1 - 0 baby!!!00:50
Vantraxmorning starcraftman00:50
starcraftmanVantrax: how goes?00:51
lobinholol, I just love these international chats00:51
lobinhohere in Brazil, its 20:51 right now00:51
starcraftmanlobinho: hi, and yes it is worldly and amusing.00:52
lobinhowhich reminds us of what "Ubuntu" really means :D00:53
zeroseven0183Hi! It's 7:55AM now here in the Philippines... April 2900:54
ubuntu_hello, i have messed up everything with my partitions, can anyone help me restore my system to the previous stage, of which i have the fdisk output?01:15
lobinhodoes anyone know how to make a script that will execute a command in another user account? i.e. folks at home resuming my downloads after they finish their tasks, without logging in with my password...01:20
Ozani need to manually change my partition table beceause i cannot boot into ubuntu and cannot recover grub01:21
Ozani have all details of my previous partition table01:22
Ozanbut i don't know how to force it01:22
starcraftmanOzan: Tried just using testdisk? You can just have it recreate a partition table based on existing if you like.01:22
Ozan<starcraftman> testdisk has just made the thing worse, now i cannot even boot into ubuntu01:23
starcraftmanOzan: really? Sure ya did it right? Not the usual response I get.01:24
Ozan<starcraftman> it has changed my partition table and now i'm unable to boot into ubuntu, and recover grub01:24
Ozan<starcraftman> i used it to analyse my hard disk, it seemed to find all my partitions, but with different names (sd5 instead of sda7 for ex)01:25
Ozan<starcraftman> then i wanted it to write the partition table and now i cannot boot into ubuntu01:26
starcraftmanhmmm, so Ozan you want what exactly? You have your table imaged and want to restore?01:26
Ozani cannot even mount that partition01:26
Ozan<starcraftman> i don't have the image, i have fdisk output, and i want to restore to it01:27
starcraftmanhmmm, well short of testdisk I'm not sure what to recommend honestly. Maybe somoene else here has a thought.01:30
starcraftmanOzan: You seen this nice guide with pictures right? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step01:30
Ozan<starcraftman> yes i have seen it01:31
Ozan<starcraftman> i just followed it, and now i cannot even boot into ubuntu, which was installed in the partiton that i run testdisk01:33
starcraftmanOzan: aye, got ya. Hmmm. Alright, I think I got a solution.01:37
starcraftmanBUT, I can't strictly vouch for it. You may want to clone absolutely what is remaining in case further deterioration.01:38
starcraftmanOzan: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/recovering.html01:38
starcraftmanlong process, one partition at a time.01:39
Ozanthanks a lot01:43
Ozani think i'll give it a try01:44
starcraftmanOzan: your welcome01:44
starcraftmanI'd recommend cloning the drive before starting with partimage or so though.01:44
starcraftmanBest of luck.01:44
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lobinhohey02:15
lobinhoanyone knows how to resume transfers in Transmission BitTorrent through cli? I know transmission -p stars with everything paused, but can't it start the downloads and uploads via command line? I'd like to make a script for this...02:16
lobinhoT_T gotta go, bye everyone02:19
starcraftmanWE DID IT! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo02:39
starcraftmanalso if I'm not alive tomorrow, you can assume Montreal went crazy and triggered a complete meltdown, riots and was leveled.02:45
nigelbabustarcraftman: ice melted?02:51
nigelbabuanyone remembers how to connect to people.ubuntu.com?02:52
starcraftmannigelbabu: oh thats all gone, was 15C today.02:52
nigelbabustarcraftman: its 30 here :D02:52
starcraftmannigelbabu: don't remind me its still somewhat cold. Though tbh, I prefer it around 20 than overly hot. Maybe I'm a cold person.02:53
starcraftmannigelbabu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom <That help, just use an sftp client.02:55
nigelbabustarcraftman: I did use it with normal client, dont remember how03:00
nigelbabustarcraftman: connet to server and select ssh03:01
starcraftmannigelbabu: I guess, haven't used the space ever, don't really need it with u1.03:01
nigelbabustarcraftman: I put stuff there when its something related to cummunity03:02
nigelbabu!ping | nigelbabu03:49
Votebotnigelbabu: nigelbabu, stop pinging already. We all heard you.03:49
pedro3005hi lobinho04:40
lobinhohey there04:40
lobinhot's up?04:40
pedro3005learning about integrating C with Python04:41
lobinhowhen I did it with C/C++ and SDL, as well as C/C++ and OpenGL, it was a pain in the ass at first D:04:42
lobinhobut you don't have to get used to the first steps, since the real daily programming comes after that :p04:42
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brackennhello?06:10
kermiachi brackenn :)06:10
pedro3005hi06:10
brackennHey! Hi! I got it to work!06:10
pedro3005great!06:11
brackennIs this a place I can Get some Advice?06:11
pedro3005sure is06:12
brackennGreat. I need some help with my printer. I just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04, and i did a fresh reload of My whole op system.06:14
brackennI can't get my printer to work.06:14
kermiacwhat brand printer is it brackenn?06:14
brackennIt is a Canon Pixma IP1800.06:15
pedro3005brackenn, so wait, you did a clean install?06:16
brackennYes. Fron a disk.06:16
brackenner..From06:16
kermiacbrackenn: from a quick search, this *may* help: http://tantos.web.id/blogs/how-to-karmic-koala-and-canon-pixma-ip1800-ip190006:16
kermiacI have hp printers though, so I can't help too much06:17
brackennI've been to that site, But I don't fully understand it.06:18
pedro3005brackenn, any specific question?06:19
kermiacbrackenn: what part of the instructions are you having troubles with? hopefully i can help to explain it better for you :)06:20
brackennSure, And thanks in advance. I downloaded, and did the tar -zxvf Canon-Pixma-iP1900-iP1800-KarmicKoala.tar.gz command.06:21
brackennwhich all came out on my desktop.06:21
brackennbut I can't do step 3.06:22
pedro3005if the files are already there, ignore step 306:22
brackenn Where would I find that directory?06:22
brackennokay.06:23
brackennokay, I just did steps 4 and 5...06:24
brackennHow do I do step 7. where do I find  and what is a pPD file?06:25
pedro3005brackenn, download this file http://www.mediafire.com/?mdmldyztfoh06:26
kermiacbrackenn: a PostScript Printer Description (PPD) file basically just tells your O/S what your printer is capable of - fonts, paper size, resolution, etc06:31
brackenni downloaded it, it's on my desktop, but it keeps giving me an error when i try to move it to to usr\share\ppd06:34
pedro3005brackenn, let me guess: permission error06:35
brackennYah. I just foud that out.06:35
pedro3005brackenn, ok, so try running this:06:36
pedro3005sudo mv ~/Desktop/canonip1900for1800.ppd /usr/share/ppd06:36
brackennthat worked...Yea!06:37
pedro3005:D06:37
pedro3005now "Then from menu System->Administration->Printing, right click on your printer, choose properties, then change your Make and Model using this new PPD file."06:38
brackennStill won't work.06:43
pedro3005what happened?06:44
brackennVery little. The print que says the jobs are completed, but nothing comes out of the printer. The light doesn't flash.06:45
brackennWait...06:47
brackennHold on....06:47
brackennI think I miss-interp'ed the directions the first time, about assigning the ppd file. I think I got it working.06:49
brackennYah. It's working. Many thanks.06:52
pedro3005brackenn, great :)06:53
brackennBye.06:53
loki20trying to get my graphics faster on a Dell Mini 1010 with UNR = any suggestions06:54
leoquant!NVIDIA08:52
ZeRoDeAtH50435anyone awake in here10:09
kermiachi ZeRoDeAtH5043510:11
ZeRoDeAtH50435hey10:11
kermiacZeRoDeAtH50435: how are you today/night?10:13
pedro3005hi everyone10:14
kermiachi pedro3005 :)10:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435I have the thing for class that I have to do tracepath time.nist.gov but at the end it says too many hops: 1492 resume: pmtu 1492 does that mean that there was to many for it to run through10:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435fine you10:15
kermiacgood thanks :)10:15
pedro3005someone here good at math?10:17
ZeRoDeAtH50435depends10:17
pedro3005well... excuse my dumbness.. but in for instance http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/b/0/8b02df70671b7bdd99e2c96a700319be.png  , what's that weird thing that looks like an E? :P10:18
pedro3005with infinite on top10:19
zeroseven0183Sigma10:20
zeroseven0183or summation10:20
ZeRoDeAtH50435it depends on the math that you are using it for10:20
pedro3005in the example, what is it for?10:21
ZeRoDeAtH50435got me10:24
pedro3005I think it's one of these summations10:25
pedro3005I looked it up, easy enough10:25
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah10:25
pedro3005in the example, you'd start at minus infinite, and go all the way to infinite10:25
pedro3005substituting n on the formula that follows it10:26
pedro3005thanks! I needed a name to google it. much appreciated :D10:26
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah I got that10:26
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merman123hey guys, does anybody know if transcend external usb hard drive has any problems with ubuntu? I'm planning to buy one10:40
tykajumerman123 i bought one and it's work correctly but you can't use sjelite software on ubuntu11:00
tykajumaybe with lucid lynx it will be possible11:01
merman123what is sjelite used for?11:02
tykajutranscend external usb hard drive come with a soft (sjelite) wich can help you to protect your data and for backups11:11
Severity1hi all11:39
ZeRoDeAtH50435how do I change my logon screen11:56
shahanubuntu release may delay12:47
shahanas some bug has been discovered at the last time...12:48
shahanmay be few hours12:48
shahanbut in general it will realease about GMT 3:00 PM12:49
shahanthe whole community is waitting for the RELEASE of .... :-)12:52
jcbvwhat time is release and will compiz now work with older nvidia cards like vanta and geforc 2 gts16:00
starcraftmanjcbv: I dunno exact date of release, should be later in the day think they still doing some last minute iso testing and building.16:02
zeroseven0183Almost there16:03
starcraftmanjcbv: as to nvidia, depends how well nouveau works as Nvidia binaries have dropped those cards.16:03
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jcbvguess im screwed dammit i need compiz on this old rig16:04
jcbvthey should have let me test it i always find bugs in stuff16:04
jcbvi been tilting pinballs since 8216:05
starcraftmanjcbv: you can download a testing iso and give it a whirl.16:12
jcbvwont i have to reinstall it later though16:12
starcraftmanjcbv: not unless glaring gaps, you can always just run it froma  live cd and test there.16:12
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starcraftmanjcbv: Joing #ubuntu-testing and the isos are here > iso.qa.ubuntu.com. If you find any serious bugs report to channel/site.16:13
jcbvthanks16:14
jcbvwill do16:15
jcbvcant access page16:15
jcbvyo u must play starcraft on ubuntu i might have to install it16:17
jcbvhavent played it in a while im busy playing company of heros16:17
jcbvim getting sick of all this made for  vista software what a pain16:17
starcraftmanjcbv: interesting site down, check back in a bit. Must be getting hammered.16:18
starcraftmanjcbv: actually lil bit retired from sc atm, I'm at uni doing intensive comp sci degree. Not much time for games. When I'm not in class I'm usually teaching myself a language not in program.16:19
LzrdKingdoes ubuntu enterprise cloud let me use all my computers as a giant cluster?16:23
meindian523What time (UTC/otherwise) does 10.04 release?16:34
* meindian523 is here at 2104 hours on Thurs, Apr 29 and still waiting16:35
Akosthere is no release date16:36
meindian523*2106 hours IST16:36
Akosi mean hour :P16:36
Akosjust date16:36
Akosand the CDs have been re-imaged due to a grub bug, so that's why they seem to be released later16:36
meindian523Akos, ah, but I thought someone might know.....16:37
Akosit's just 1:36 pm in the us, so they have almost one more day :P16:37
meindian523was that why they were pushed from 25th to 29th?16:37
Akosi don't think so ..16:37
Akosi dunno about that push16:37
meindian523Akos, 1336 on Apr 29th or Apr 28th?16:37
Akos29th16:37
meindian523hmm16:38
meindian523they got something like 10 hours16:38
Akosexactly16:39
meindian523:)16:39
* meindian523 waits...16:44
starcraftmanmeindian523: probably be quite a bit later in day. Don't sweat it.16:46
meindian523starcraftman, I won't be, I'll probably be sleeping like a baby when it does release...16:47
starcraftmanmeindian523: hehe16:47
meindian523starcraftman, as an aside, do the repos for dist-upgrade get updated prior to the release or later16:47
meindian523if earlier I might set the laptop to do checks every half hour or so and dist-upgrade as soon as it becomes available16:48
meindian523currently running Lucid RC on it16:48
starcraftmanmeindian523:  do you have to get it absolutely second it releases? :) I don't know the time dist updates.16:51
meindian523starcraftman, nah, but been using Ubuntu for 3 years now and haven't, ever, seen the release as it becomes available16:52
meindian523want to feel the anticipation at least once16:52
starcraftmanmeindian523: hehe, alright :)16:52
meindian523though it isn't too great, been using Lucid since beta 116:53
meindian523so well16:53
meindian523yet....16:53
* starcraftman shrugs.16:54
starcraftmanIt's got upgraded packages, and a few newish things.16:54
starcraftmanSometimes it really seems like we need longer releases.16:55
starcraftmancycles*16:55
shahanwhen will be realease17:03
shahan?17:03
shahan_any update news about ubuntu 10.04 realease?17:05
shahan_starcraftman: ?17:07
shahan_starcraftman: hey.. do u know any update news/17:07
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bodhi_zazen'lo17:13
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* meindian523 checks for 10.04 release18:18
starcraftmanhi bodhi_zazen18:23
starcraftmanmeindian523: the final seeded release is propogating now fyi.18:23
meindian523thanks starcraftman18:24
starcraftmanmeindian523: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/10.04/18:24
starcraftmanmeindian523: I know cuz I'm zsyncing my RC files. :)18:24
meindian523wow, its on the mirrors, but not on the main site18:24
starcraftmanmeindian523: it takes a while to propogate, I think they wait till everywhere has it before announcement18:25
meindian523starcraftman, ah18:25
meindian523starcraftman, the desktop version does fine for notebooks too, right?18:26
starcraftmanmeindian523: the netbook version main feature is alternate interface for smaller screens.18:27
starcraftmanif it's > 1280x1024 I'd go with desktop, smaller and it might not be great.18:27
meindian523starcraftman, I meant as in optimizations, etc18:29
meindian523for battery power18:29
meindian523etc18:29
meindian523#ubuntu-release-party has gone crazy18:29
starcraftmanmeindian523: I'm not a labtop expert, I don't think theres any huge difference between netbook and desktop in terms of power, should use same backend.18:30
meindian523starcraftman, not netbook, notebook equal to laptop18:30
starcraftmanmeindian523: regardless, power back end management is same I think. Netbooks just a low power labtop. Netbook is just a gimmick word anyway.18:32
bmuluuhello18:32
starcraftmanhello bmuluu18:32
bmuluuhello +starcraftman18:32
meindian523starcraftman, yeah18:32
starcraftmanbmuluu: got a problem?18:33
bmuluuno problem at all18:33
meindian523starcraftman, well, as an answer to that criteria you gave, laptop is at 1400*105018:34
starcraftmanmeindian523: nice big screen, stick with standard install them.18:34
meindian523starcraftman, yeah18:36
starcraftmanmeindian523: man release channel just buzzing.18:38
starcraftmanehehe18:38
meindian523starcraftman, release-party channel?18:38
starcraftmanaye, some people get a lil too excited.18:38
starcraftmanmaybe they all ahead of me in the aclohol department.18:39
meindian523lol starcraftman18:39
starcraftmanmeindian523: I'll catch up later, I'm off to the qc loco meet up in a few hours.18:40
* meindian523 wonders at the typing speed of An_Ony_Moose. (S)He got off 2 lines in a row without nobody's post in between18:40
meindian523http://paste.ubuntu.com/424721/18:40
meindian523sure starcraftman18:40
meindian523cya round18:40
starcraftmanmeindian523: copy paste?18:40
starcraftmanmeindian523: oh not leaving just yet, I meant when I go. still got 4 hours just to go downtown, its not that far.18:41
meindian523starcraftman, possibly, still quite fast, to middle click and press enter18:41
meindian523starcraftman, ah18:43
shahansomething change in ubuntu site18:44
shahanthe counter vanished18:44
shahanbelow of the site18:44
shahan!!!18:44
* meindian523 checks own blog18:44
starcraftmanbah, blogs!!!18:48
meindian523starcraftman, yup, the Available Soon hasn't changed yet18:48
starcraftmanmeindian523: hmm? Ubuntu.com is updated now18:49
meindian523starcraftman, nah, I meant the countdown thingie18:49
starcraftmanoh alright. Takes a lil bit I suppose.18:50
shahanyes.... I am going to download18:51
shahanwhat is the best procedure of downloading?18:51
shahantorrent or direct?18:51
meindian523shahan, torrent18:51
shahanwhich one will be best18:51
meindian523shahan, torrent18:51
shahanmeindian523: will I get better speed on torrent?18:52
meindian523shahan, yup18:52
meindian523if something 3MB/s from one seed sounds good enough to you18:52
shahanmeindian523: will I dowonload it right now?18:52
meindian523shahan, that depends on you doesn't it??18:52
shahanmeindian523: yes18:52
shahanmeindian523: tnx18:52
* meindian523 will wait another half an hour18:52
shahanmeindian523: why?18:53
meindian523shahan, my ISP allows me free download between 0000 and 0800 hours18:53
shahanmeindian523: ok...18:53
shahanmeindian523: hmm18:53
shahanmeindian523: I am going to download18:54
meindian523sure18:54
shahanmeindian523: NOT GETTING BETTERSPEED ON TORRENT19:00
shahannot getting speed on torrent19:01
meindian523shahan, what speeds are you getting?19:02
shahangoing to download it direct19:02
shahanmeindian523: only 5-6 KBps19:02
meindian523shahan, hmm19:02
meindian523shahan, wait a min19:03
meindian523more speed coming in19:03
shahanmeindian523: how speed will come19:03
meindian523shahan, people with dedicated computers seeding19:03
shahanmeindian523: how long I should wait for?19:04
meindian523shahan, 10 mins prolly19:04
shahanmeindian523: r u indian?19:05
meindian523shahan, yep19:05
shahankahase ho?19:05
shahanmeindian523: kahase ho?19:05
meindian523shahan, Bambai19:05
shahanmeindian523: hmm19:05
meindian523shahan, yourself?19:05
shahanmeindian523: BANGLADESH19:06
shahanmeindian523: DHAKA19:06
meindian523shahan, hmm19:06
meindian523shahan, what speeds now?19:06
shahanlet me download now19:06
shahanmeindian523: I have sotpped it19:06
shahanmeindian523: haha19:06
meindian523try torrent first19:06
shahanmeindian523: not good19:08
meindian523shahan, what exactly19:08
meindian523?19:08
shahanmeindian523: about 1019:08
shahanmeindian523: 10 KBps19:08
meindian523and what's the max bandwidth your ISP gives you?19:08
shahanmeindian523: I didnt tried with torrent befoe with my new ISP19:09
shahanmeindian523: but I download directly about 50 KBps19:09
meindian523shahan, hmm19:09
shahanmeindian523: now its 3-4 KBps19:09
shahanme :(19:09
meindian523shahan, patience, people are in a hurry to install asap19:10
shahanmeindian523: asap?19:10
meindian523shahan, as soon as possible19:10
shahanmeindian523: coming back soon19:11
shahanbey19:11
meindian523ok19:12
znxtchDoes anyone play any games on Ubuntu?19:12
znxtchI'm bored and I'm looking for a game suggestion.  Something I could download from the Download Center. . .that doesn't suck.19:12
starcraftmanznxtch: teeworlds!19:12
starcraftmanznxtch: luk loves that game, addict.19:13
meindian523starcraftman, what kind really?19:13
meindian523strategy, FPS, what19:13
meindian523why isn't CK here?19:13
znxtchlooks like a 2d shooter19:13
znxtchmultiplayer19:13
znxtchsort of like SOLDAT but more cartoony19:13
starcraftmanznxtch: indeed, cool game.19:14
starcraftmanthe good ol days of soldat in the highscool and college labs19:14
znxtchlol19:14
znxtchI like ARC too19:14
znxtchdid you ever play that?19:14
meindian523shahan, what about now? On torrent?19:20
shahanmeindian523: 20KBps19:20
shahanmeindian523: going to be good19:20
meindian523cool, keep it, don't go for the http19:20
meindian523http rates will be unpredictable19:20
starcraftmanmeindian523: just gotta pick a good less known server :)19:27
meindian523starcraftman, hmm, but I'm die hard torrent fan19:27
meindian523suffered enough bad ISOs19:28
starcraftmanhehehe19:28
starcraftmanmeindian523: you know you can use the DTA extension with an sha256 hash.19:28
meindian523starcraftman, yeah, but I don't think its gonna make much difference to me19:29
meindian523my pipe is 512kbps19:29
starcraftmanmeindian523: I feel your pain, slow dsl line here too.19:29
meindian523and yeah, thats 512kilobits/sec19:29
* meindian523 is going offline, be back in a few mins, need to start off with my free unlimited d/l period19:30
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javatexancan you run document viewer from the terminal: docview something.ps?19:51
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starcraftmanlater team, times for party :)20:39
simarhi all21:17
maddethhi all22:30
pedro3005hi22:33
geirhaA bit disappointing that Ubuntu manual.22:50
maddethubuntu manual?22:50
geirhahttp://ubuntu-manual.org/22:50
geirhaHm. Ok, maybe not that bad. I spotted an error perusing the command line chapter, but that seems to be it.22:53
geirhaAnd it's not written in stone. I can report it at lp :)22:59
pedro3005Yet another ubuntu manual?23:00
geirhaIt seems quite comprehensive, and can be bought as a real book made with that white stuff ... what's it called again?23:03
geirhapaper23:03
maddeth:) geirha23:09
maddethI always prefer reading a real book23:10
pedro3005+123:10
pedro3005but I never seem to have patience to read computer books23:10
pedro3005don't know why23:10
maddethwhen your in work writing/reading documetns, the last thing you want to do is read more crap on the computer at home23:10
maddethpedro3005, I read a lot of fiction23:11
maddethbut just bought a computer book now23:11
pedro3005yeah, I got "The C Programming Language" by Ritchie and Kernighan, need to pay more attention to it23:12
maddethNot much of a programmer myself23:12
maddeththough I want to learn a bit more about machine code23:12
pedro3005not a programmer either - but I'm trying to be one ;)23:13
maddethmeh, dont want to be a coding monkey23:13
maddethtalking of which, you about tronyx ?23:13
maddethtake that as a no23:15
pedro3005machine code? you mean 0's and 1's? :P23:16
maddethAND OR XOR23:16
maddethHex ;)23:16
maddethnot binary23:16

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