| arand | rebooting now, will be back here. | 00:02 |
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| Dink | Hello, I have been trying to use launchpad to only build a specific flavour kernel ie, netbook. I am now getting "make: *** No rule to make target `build-netbook', needed by `build-arch'. Stop." in my build log. Any help would be appreciated. I have tried to remove all non configs etc for x86_64 as well as other flavours for x86. Did I remove too much ? | 00:23 |
| Dink | Sorry for my ignorance I have never done this as a .deb before. | 00:24 |
| kamalm | achiang, cnd: hey, I figured out my problem with my LKML post never showing up! apparently, the vger.kernel.org mailing lists silently reject any message without a Message-Id: header (my message file, the edited output from git-format-patch, had no Message-Id: header). ... | 00:47 |
| kamalm | I was feeding my message file directly to msmtp, but I eventually guessed that might be the problem (after noticing that git-send-email *does* generate a Message-Id) so I just resubmitted it using git-send-email directly and it appeared on LKML immediately (yay). | 00:49 |
| kamalm | I still don't like git-send-email much, but I'll either use it anyway, or else come up with a way to generate a Message-Id: for msmtp-direct use. | 00:50 |
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| achiang | kamalm: stg mail | 01:18 |
| achiang | :) | 01:18 |
| kamalm | achiang: stg? | 01:19 |
| achiang | stacked git | 01:19 |
| achiang | it's quite nice | 01:19 |
| kamalm | I guess I don't see why I need to fiddle with git at all just to send a piece of email ;-) -- I know git-send-email (etc.) can do more fancy stuff than that, but I (foolishly) wanted to do it manually to see how it worked (or didn't as the case may be). that'll teach me. | 01:20 |
| achiang | kamalm: oh, i use stacked git to manage patch series on top of git | 01:21 |
| achiang | kinda like quilt, but you know, not stupid like. :) | 01:21 |
| kamalm | ;-) my patch was sooo simple, I thought, surely I don't need a *tool* to send the email for me. I'm not even ready to think about stacked patches yet. | 01:22 |
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| johanbr | has anyone else noticed broken sound on some HP laptops with the lucid -21 kernel (32 bits)? | 02:01 |
| johanbr | -19 works fine | 02:01 |
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| psurbhi | good morning #ubuntu-kernel | 07:30 |
| jjohansen | morning psurbhi | 07:36 |
| * psurbhi devel machines scsi controller is almost dead :( got back to my old slow laptop now | 08:35 | |
| tgardner | apw, rsync -zhhP rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/${RELEASE}-desktop-${i}.iso ${RELEASE}-desktop-${i}-daily.iso | 10:32 |
| tseliot | apw: I've compiled a kernel from the Linus git branch but I'm getting kernel panic VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Any ideas on what this could be? (support for ext4 is built into the kernel) | 10:44 |
| apw | unable to mount the initramfs perhaps ? | 10:44 |
| tseliot | ah | 10:45 |
| tseliot | apw: this also happen with a mainline build of 2.6.34-rc5 here | 10:48 |
| smb | tseliot, I had this sometimes when something failed to do update-grub correctly... | 10:48 |
| tseliot | smb: it could be that. As the same kernel on the same machine (different installation of Lucid) works | 10:49 |
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| elmo | seriously, people | 11:34 |
| elmo | a hardy kernel release TODAY? | 11:34 |
| smb | elmo, That can only be one moved from proposed. I would not have expected this to happen exactly today. But that is not really in our hands | 11:36 |
| tseliot | smb, apw: it looks like it didn't generate any initrd file even though I built it with --initrd | 11:45 |
| tseliot | and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y while CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE isn't set to anything | 11:46 |
| fabbione | hmmm guys who is in charge of karmic kernel and all the CPU speed step stuff? | 12:03 |
| fabbione | (like setting ondemand vs performance cpu bits) | 12:03 |
| AnAnt | Hello, why is there a rt3070sta.ko in linux-rt but not in linux ? | 12:22 |
| AnAnt | ah, linux has rt3090sta | 12:45 |
| smb | fabbione, Wassup? | 13:00 |
| fabbione | smb: i am trying to figure out why setting ondemand cpu governor on karmic -> filesystem corruption (a bad one) | 13:00 |
| fabbione | smb: and if there is somekind of blacklist table to make sure ondemand is never EVER used on a similar system | 13:01 |
| smb | fabbione, repeatable? | 13:01 |
| fabbione | smb: yes absolutely. it's 10 days I am debugging this thing | 13:01 |
| fabbione | smb: started from swapping one disk at a time in the raid(s), cables, controllers, etc. etc. | 13:02 |
| fabbione | you know.. usual drill trying to understand what the hell is wrong | 13:02 |
| fabbione | till i figured that in init 1 i didn't see the corruption | 13:02 |
| fabbione | init 2 did | 13:02 |
| fabbione | different kernels.. etc. | 13:03 |
| fabbione | smb: note that ondemand seems the default in karmic (at least it's been pulled in when updating from jaunty) | 13:03 |
| fabbione | not sure how many people are affected potentially by this problem, but it's not easy to spot at first | 13:04 |
| smb | fabbione, It would be the first time I heard this. Yes it is. It only performance during a small time during init when I remember that correctly | 13:04 |
| smb | Is that a special raid setup of just normal md raid? | 13:05 |
| fabbione | yes right.. performance at init then at the end of the boot goes to ondemand | 13:05 |
| fabbione | smb: 2 md raid -> different controllers -> different disks -> same behaviour (one shows it faster tho) | 13:05 |
| fabbione | how to reproduce: | 13:05 |
| fabbione | get a folder of random file that's at least twice the size of system RAM (so it can't be cached and you need to I/O) | 13:05 |
| fabbione | for i in $(seq 1 100); do md5sum /folder; done | 13:06 |
| fabbione | depending how lucky you are it will eventually fail | 13:06 |
| fabbione | at somepoint I was reading the same 7GB iso file, and I was getting a different md5sum each run | 13:06 |
| fabbione | the data on disk look ok | 13:06 |
| soren | Which filesystem? | 13:06 |
| fabbione | but then.. copy/backup/burn to dvd | 13:06 |
| fabbione | all bad | 13:07 |
| fabbione | soren: ext3 | 13:07 |
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| fabbione | and removing that writeback option youdid turn on between 2.6.31-16 and -17 doesn't change a thing | 13:07 |
| fabbione | soren: you are welcome to pass by and look at it yourself | 13:07 |
| fabbione | :) | 13:07 |
| smb | fabbione, Well that writeback only matters on crash | 13:07 |
| soren | fabbione: Heh.. Don't wait up :) | 13:08 |
| fabbione | smb: right, but i wanted to exclude every possibility | 13:08 |
| smb | fabbione, sure | 13:08 |
| fabbione | i even started modprobing one module at a time in case it was a conflict of somekind | 13:08 |
| smb | Especially with something that looks rather odd | 13:08 |
| fabbione | exactly | 13:08 |
| fabbione | the raids are: | 13:08 |
| fabbione | raid5 -> SATA -> 4x1.5TB | 13:08 |
| fabbione | raid1 -> IDE -> 2xsomethingGB | 13:09 |
| fabbione | so different controllers, technologies and disks | 13:09 |
| fabbione | all show the same issue | 13:09 |
| soren | If you've got tons of space somewhere, you could try copying the data somewhere insteaed of just md5sum'ing it. | 13:09 |
| soren | That way, you could see what the actual difference is. | 13:09 |
| fabbione | i come to the conclusion that's something to do with either a buggy CPU speedstep | 13:09 |
| soren | ...and see if it's random data, data leaked from somewhere else, or just the correct data in the wrong order or whatnot. | 13:10 |
| fabbione | soren: i did that test too. even if you copy and make a difference you obtain nothing useful. it's always a random different data that gets corrupted | 13:10 |
| fabbione | and yes I did run memtest for > 24h | 13:10 |
| fabbione | soren: that would require also performing a kdump and compare. | 13:10 |
| fabbione | soren: not enough processing power for that | 13:11 |
| smb | fabbione, what type of cpu? amd or intel? | 13:11 |
| fabbione | smb: amd | 13:11 |
| soren | Either that or copy it to a remote place. | 13:11 |
| soren | Oh.. | 13:11 |
| fabbione | vendor_id : AuthenticAMD | 13:11 |
| fabbione | cpu family : 15 | 13:11 |
| fabbione | model : 47 | 13:11 |
| fabbione | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ | 13:11 |
| fabbione | stepping : 0 | 13:11 |
| fabbione | cpu MHz : 1800.000 | 13:11 |
| soren | right, I see what you mean. | 13:11 |
| fabbione | cache size : 512 KB | 13:11 |
| soren | Well, you might be able to make sense of it just looking at a hexdump of it. | 13:11 |
| fabbione | soren: it's doable, but it means comparing TB of data at each run... | 13:11 |
| soren | fabbione: Jesus, how much RAM do you have?!? | 13:12 |
| fabbione | soren: i don't really care how it gets corrupted.. it just shouldn't happen in the first place | 13:12 |
| soren | fabbione: Of course. | 13:12 |
| smb | fabbione, Hm, I just heard today that there might be a bug that might make it not scale up correctly (but nothing about corruption) | 13:12 |
| fabbione | soren: it's 3GB of RAM, but then you need several copies of a 2xRAMsize file etc. | 13:12 |
| soren | fabbione: I'm just saying that the contents might give you a hint about where it came from | 13:13 |
| fabbione | smb: the corruption could be caused by more than one bug... | 13:13 |
| fabbione | soren: it's probably the same data swapped or something. | 13:13 |
| fabbione | soren: i doubt there is a leak because everything that is loaded before switching ondemand (application and OS) are deadly stable | 13:13 |
| fabbione | i suspect simple byteswaps or something | 13:14 |
| fabbione | smb: i suspect the CPU can even scale correctly, but other bits on the mobo don't.. | 13:14 |
| fabbione | anyway... now you know | 13:15 |
| fabbione | keep an eye | 13:15 |
| fabbione | smb: another thing... dvb related to karmic | 13:15 |
| fabbione | http://fabbione.fedorapeople.org/dvb.patch | 13:15 |
| fabbione | you want to revert that patch from 2.6.31 | 13:15 |
| fabbione | i think it's already removed in dvb-trunk and later linus' trees | 13:15 |
| fabbione | (not sure about the git sha1 tho) | 13:16 |
| smb | fabbione, Yeah, thanks. I got a similar system which I might use to test. | 13:16 |
| fabbione | the patch as you see it went in at some point, but it breaks the HVR-3000 dvb-t | 13:16 |
| smb | fabbione, I guess I can find that out | 13:16 |
| fabbione | i already spoke to Darron and he agreed to revert it | 13:16 |
| fabbione | (that was a few months back) | 13:16 |
| fabbione | but yeah you get the idea | 13:17 |
| fabbione | once that patch is in karmic i can finally stop building my own kernelks | 13:17 |
| fabbione | getting tired of gcc :P | 13:17 |
| smb | fabbione, Well, to get it into Karmic, there might be a slightly harder need to it that tiring you. Especially when Lucid is released. | 13:19 |
| smb | fabbione, Don't we do that as a module? /me cannot remember that | 13:19 |
| fabbione | smb: yeah it's a module, but i am pretty sure i am not the only HVR-3000 user out there | 13:20 |
| fabbione | and doesn't have to go in yesterday.. just when it fits in the next update | 13:20 |
| fabbione | lucid.. that's going to take me at least 4/6 months before I upgrade those systems | 13:20 |
| cmug | Is it out yet | 13:21 |
| fabbione | i'd guess shortly | 13:21 |
| smb | fabbione, Likely not. Just that the SRU process is not really allowing for less critical problems. However annoying they are. You probably know. ;-) | 13:21 |
| fabbione | smb: you can consider that a regression from Jaunty if that pleases you :) | 13:22 |
| fabbione | in Jaunty it used to work | 13:22 |
| fabbione | and yeah I can imagine that people have been tighting the SRU process.. | 13:23 |
| smb | fabbione, It would likely be more pleasing. But not if it would cause different regressions. | 13:23 |
| fabbione | smb: it doesn't. | 13:23 |
| fabbione | This update also fixes analogue tuning on the hvr-1300 when in blackbird mode. | 13:23 |
| fabbione | analog doesn't exists anymore | 13:23 |
| fabbione | it wasn't working before, doesn't work now | 13:23 |
| smb | Would sound good then | 13:24 |
| fabbione | hvr4000 works with or without the patch | 13:24 |
| fabbione | Darron has a 4k and a 1300 | 13:24 |
| smb | fabbione, Would you happen to have a lp bug filed or you rather want to leave the fun part to me? | 13:24 |
| fabbione | fun part is all your :) | 13:24 |
| fabbione | feel free to copy/paste from IRC | 13:24 |
| fabbione | i already have to deal with bugzilla | 13:25 |
| fabbione | that's plenty for me :P | 13:25 |
| * smb thanks fabbione so much. :-P | 13:25 | |
| fabbione | want to swap for sometime? | 13:25 |
| fabbione | you work with my BZ account | 13:25 |
| fabbione | and i work with your LP account | 13:25 |
| fabbione | ;) | 13:25 |
| smb | heh. :) Not sure I'll enjoy that | 13:26 |
| fabbione | at least I have a bit of kernel experience (even if minimal).. but i'd love to see you banging on cluster stacks | 13:26 |
| * fabbione feels a bit sadist today | 13:26 | |
| fabbione | s/a bit/extremely/ | 13:26 |
| fabbione | picture this.. you debug an issue in the kernel.. that's local to one machine | 13:27 |
| fabbione | it's there, right in front of you | 13:27 |
| cmug | fabbione, define shortly :) | 13:27 |
| fabbione | with cluster, it scales across N nodes that are part of the clsuter | 13:27 |
| fabbione | because you don't know what's going to trigger what (so to speak) | 13:27 |
| apw | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux | 13:31 |
| fabbione | cmug: shortly? | 13:36 |
| cmug | :) | 13:39 |
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| JFo | this bug looks interesting: bug 568782 | 15:10 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 568782 in linux "cannot install two linux-backports-modules-wireless packages" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568782 | 15:10 |
| BenC | crimsun: ping | 15:12 |
| tgardner | JFo, having a look | 15:15 |
| JFo | tgardner, ta | 15:16 |
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| fabbione | hey BenC | 15:28 |
| BenC | fabbione: hey bro, how's things? | 15:28 |
| fabbione | BenC: not too bad and you? | 15:28 |
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| JFo | apw, you around? | 15:59 |
| apw | hi | 16:00 |
| JFo | this looks rather serious: bug 559888 | 16:00 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 559888 in linux "Lucid installation bug: blank screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559888 | 16:00 |
| JFo | not sure if it is us or X or some other | 16:00 |
| apw | does nomodeset sort it out? | 16:00 |
| JFo | bryceh, care to look ^^ as well? | 16:00 |
| JFo | apw, good question, I don't believe they tried that | 16:00 |
| JFo | apw, looks to be happening during install | 16:03 |
| JFo | is it possible to add the nomodeset during boot from CD? | 16:03 |
| manjo | apw, what hr is the release or is it already announced ? | 16:04 |
| amitk | still testing... | 16:05 |
| manjo | amitk, dual boot installer bug ? | 16:06 |
| amitk | yup | 16:06 |
| * bjf has to run my son to school | 16:11 | |
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| JFo | hey internalkernel | 16:29 |
| internalkernel | hey hey... been awhile since I signed in... | 16:30 |
| internalkernel | JFo: how's life? | 16:30 |
| JFo | not bad | 16:30 |
| JFo | tons of bugs :) | 16:30 |
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| JFo | morning kamalm | 16:44 |
| kamalm | JFo: good morning | 16:45 |
| kamalm | is there a "release party" channel of any sort? | 16:46 |
| azop | kamalm: #ubuntu-release-party | 16:46 |
| kamalm | azop: thanks | 16:46 |
| azop | kamalm: if you enjoy spam :P | 16:47 |
| kamalm | azop: wow, you're not kidding, that's a firehose! | 16:47 |
| azop | yap | 16:47 |
| azop | with 'is it our yet?!' or 'it's broke!' | 16:47 |
| psurbhi | its fun to read the messages on the #ubuntu-release-party | 16:54 |
| JFo | <-lunch | 16:57 |
| * apw cracks a cold one | 17:43 | |
| vanhoof | wow #ubuntu-release is wild! | 17:45 |
| vanhoof | -party .. ;) | 17:46 |
| azop | it's somethin' | 17:46 |
| akgraner | vanhoof, you didn't know what all you were missing did ya :-P | 17:48 |
| vanhoof | haha :) | 17:49 |
| bryceh | hi JFo, looking | 17:59 |
| manjo | akgraner, guess you forgot about me? | 18:02 |
| akgraner | no | 18:03 |
| manjo | :) | 18:03 |
| akgraner | open week just just got finish | 18:03 |
| bryceh | JFo, not enough information to say | 18:03 |
| akgraner | I have your stuff in front of me now :-P | 18:03 |
| akgraner | just got finished rather | 18:03 |
| akgraner | typing fail today :-( | 18:03 |
| bryceh | JFo, generally, if they're using a KMS driver then probably should be handled as a kms drm bug | 18:04 |
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| vanhoof | lucid is live :) | 18:30 |
| vanhoof | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-April/000133.html | 18:30 |
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| manjo | apw, congrats on the great job on the kernel | 18:33 |
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| akgraner | Thank you all for all your hard work! You all rock!! | 18:51 |
| * akgraner is <3'ing Lucid :-) | 18:52 | |
| apw | manjo, yo | 19:13 |
| akgraner | manjo, take a look | 19:13 |
| manjo | apw, congrats dude | 19:13 |
| apw | thanks ... see ya soon its release party time | 19:14 |
| manjo | apw, cool have fun | 19:15 |
| manjo | akgraner, can you add some testimonial for me :P | 19:15 |
| akgraner | yep | 19:16 |
| akgraner | did you read my comments - | 19:16 |
| manjo | :) cool! will buy you a beer next time we meet! yes the comments looks great... much better than what I had | 19:17 |
| akgraner | manjo, you will also need to look at what I commented out - I made a few suggestions, but I don't have that information so you'll have to add it | 19:17 |
| manjo | akgraner, they announce membership meetings adhoc-ly .. I was on vacation last time they had meetings | 19:17 |
| akgraner | manjo, keep checking the wiki - right now regional membership boards just accepted nominations - I would guess, but don't know, there will be a meeting sometime after the new membership board members are a announced | 19:19 |
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