| chrisccoulson | time to get the party hats out in a few hours | 00:03 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: you have an LWN subscription? | 00:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't, how come? | 00:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i probably should get one | 00:05 |
| micahg | oh, they published a paid article, Ubuntu members are entitled to a free paid account | 00:05 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: http://lwn.net/Articles/384828/ | 00:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | micahg, you should be able to give out links to those though | 00:06 |
| micahg | cwillu_at_work: yeah, I could | 00:06 |
| * cwillu_at_work gives micahg puppydog eyes | 00:06 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'll give you a link in PM if you want | 00:06 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, that would be good :) | 00:09 |
| kaushal | hi | 00:23 |
| kaushal | can i use the mozilla build firefox for ubuntu in production ? | 00:23 |
| micahg | kaushal: ? | 00:23 |
| micahg | kaushal: are you asking which of our builds are for production? | 00:24 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: is it ok if I create/push thunderbird-stable tonight with thunderbird, thunderbird-locales, and enigmail based on the Lucid packages? | 00:37 |
| chrisccoulson | ccheney, epiphany working without crashing now :) | 01:19 |
| chrisccoulson | got lots of compiler warnings and glib runtime warnings to clean up now though | 01:19 |
| chrisccoulson | but it's looking good | 01:19 |
| ccheney | chrisccoulson: yipee! :) | 02:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got most of the runtime warnings cleaned up now | 02:04 |
| ccheney | chrisccoulson: i don't know if you looked at the other packages yet but some of them might could be cleaned up a bit better esp with some of the bits you dropped | 02:04 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i noticed there were some gtk changes | 02:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i'd like to try and avoid those | 02:04 |
| ccheney | yea | 02:05 |
| ccheney | iirc there were a few glib and gtk changes both, not sure if all of them can be dropped/changed so we don't need them directly in those packages or not | 02:05 |
| chrisccoulson | the GDK_BLANK_CURSOR addition in gtk can go now, as i've worked around that in epiphany (and it actually would need more changes in gtk to work correctly - it was the cause of one of the crashes) | 02:06 |
| ccheney | oh ok | 02:06 |
| chrisccoulson | and the addition of GTK_IMAGE_GICON can probably go as well, as i'm going to remove all the bits of that gtom EphyGtkEntry (epiphany doesn't use the GIcon images anyway) | 02:07 |
| chrisccoulson | s/gtom/gicon/ | 02:07 |
| chrisccoulson | don't know what i was typing there ;) | 02:07 |
| ccheney | ok | 02:07 |
| ccheney | sounds like it should be much cleaner patch now :) | 02:07 |
| chrisccoulson | anyway, i'll carry on with that tomorrow. sleep time now :) | 02:07 |
| ccheney | have a good night | 02:07 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks, you too | 02:07 |
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| fta2 | ProcessorBuildersQueue | 07:07 |
| fta2 | amd643 2903 jobs (five days) | 07:07 |
| fta2 | oh my! :( | 07:07 |
| BUGabundo_remote | hey hey huckle barry | 08:53 |
| asac | fta2: does that mean that they will fix those and make linux stable? | 11:13 |
| asac | or just move on because its too tough | 11:13 |
| === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_lunch | ||
| fta2 | asac, we could expect a stable for linux in ~ a month, based on m5 | 12:43 |
| asac | fta2: cool. thats very good news | 12:44 |
| fta2 | but it will be the same release model as the beta i'm currently tracking | 12:44 |
| asac | fta2: right. but at least we can then garther data/experience on how stable maintenance really is | 12:49 |
| asac | e.g. we can track real security updates ... and see how we can update them and see how bad regressions are etc. | 12:50 |
| fta2 | asac, well, it's done by the same people, so it will be exactly the same | 12:54 |
| asac | fta2: could be. but its easier to explain to everyone once we have data from stable | 12:55 |
| asac | and we actively track for security updates etc. | 12:55 |
| asac | but you are right. its probably the same | 12:55 |
| asac | fta2: what was the bash/sh option again to echo all commands run? | 12:58 |
| fta2 | set -x | 12:58 |
| fta2 | from inside the script | 12:58 |
| fta2 | or sh -x script (from the outside) | 12:58 |
| asac | fta2: is that inherited for subscripts? | 12:58 |
| asac | fta2: whats the difference to -v ? | 12:58 |
| fta2 | never used -v, it seems it just echoes the script | 12:59 |
| asac | yeah | 12:59 |
| asac | fta2: so can i make -x to be inherited easily? | 12:59 |
| asac | or can i set that as an env somehow? (so it gets inherited) | 12:59 |
| asac | ? | 12:59 |
| fta2 | it should be inherited | 13:00 |
| fta2 | use set +x to disable it (if you just want to debug parts of a script) | 13:00 |
| asac | fta2: i want it inherited ... cool | 13:01 |
| asac | let me try that | 13:01 |
| asac | fta2: set -e -x | 13:01 |
| asac | that ok too? | 13:01 |
| asac | or do i need seceond line | 13:01 |
| * asac just tries ;) | 13:01 | |
| fta2 | i'd say you need two lines | 13:01 |
| asac | workd | 13:01 |
| asac | works | 13:01 |
| asac | hmm. let me check if -e is still honoured | 13:02 |
| fta2 | but bash may be more permissive (it's certainly not portable though) | 13:02 |
| asac | yep | 13:02 |
| asac | ok i make a second line then | 13:02 |
| asac | ok seems its not inherited | 13:03 |
| asac | but i found a functions.sh that is sources everywhere | 13:03 |
| asac | so i will just set it there | 13:03 |
| asac | wow. thats a hell lot of output ;) | 13:04 |
| asac | but i guess i will figure where a file is removed | 13:04 |
| asac | /win27 | 13:18 |
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| asac | chrisccoulson: can you try to run make buildsymbols on a built firefox tree next time? | 15:34 |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| chrisccoulson | asac - yeah, i can do that | 17:41 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - do we not have proper debug symbols then? | 17:42 |
| fta | amd643 2935 jobs (five days) | 17:55 |
| fta | pfff | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | hahaahaha | 18:15 |
| BUGabundo_remote | 5 days!??! | 18:15 |
| BUGabundo_remote | LOL | 18:15 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released | 18:28 |
| chrisccoulson | \o/ | 18:30 |
| fta | <bigjools> fta: yeah,all the DC machines get commandeered to push CDs out | 18:32 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I got the ok from RAOF to add a wrapper around gnome-shell until gjs is ported to seed and to remove rpath for seed, so I'll try to prepare the SRU before the next xulrunner release | 19:36 |
| micahg | *remove rpath from gjs :-/ | 19:37 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - thanks, i could have probably ok'd that though ;) | 19:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think there's any plans to port gnome-shell to use seed | 19:38 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: he was maintaining so I thought I'd ask him | 19:38 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, ok, i didn't realise he was maintaining it | 19:38 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: idk maintaining, but did the last couple uploads | 19:39 |
| micahg | it would seem to benefit us if we can get gjs ported to seed so it's not a xul rdepend | 19:40 |
| fta | congrats for your work on lucid guys \o/ | 19:42 |
| fta | i mean, thanks | 19:43 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - seed is the webkit equivalent of gjs though, so it would be gnome-shell ported to seed rather than gjs being ported | 19:43 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: oh? I didn't know that | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | but, the upstream gnome-shell developers don't have any interest in porting to seed | 19:44 |
| micahg | actually, I might have known that but I forgot | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | they don't seem to consider the xul dependency to be an issue | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | we should try to correct them ;) | 19:44 |
| micahg | I thoguht there was an option | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | gjs just provides a way to access gnome libraries when using spidermonkey, and seed does a similar thing when using webkit | 19:45 |
| BUGabundo | everning ppl of the intertubes! we came to conquer | 22:07 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: just want to see if it works | 22:14 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: e.g. run make buildsymbols | 22:14 |
| asac | on top of what ewe currently do | 22:14 |
| asac | at best we get -dbgsym still ... but also a .zip i nthe tree that we could check with launchpad folks how we can upload that to mozilla | 22:14 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: make a spec for that: use upstream crashdb for mozilla | 22:15 |
| asac | that was on our list for too long and now mozilla is ready for taking our debug symbols so we should try to get crashreporter enabled | 22:15 |
| asac | and the crash submission to launchpad disabled | 22:15 |
| asac | at least they have a real DB and not individual bugs for crashes ;) | 22:15 |
| chrisccoulson | hi asac, i will create a spec for that then, that would be good to get working | 23:13 |
| chrisccoulson | i won't be around tomorrow btw, i've taken some holiday tomorrow (long day travelling) | 23:14 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I have the upstream info for adding crash info if you want it | 23:16 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, that would be useful | 23:17 |
| chrisccoulson | shall we talk about it at the start of next week? i shall be unavailable from this evening | 23:17 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: mozilla 447771 | 23:17 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 447771 in Tracking "allow Linux distributions to submit crash reports to crash-stats.mozilla.com" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447771 | 23:17 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: sure | 23:17 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent, thanks | 23:17 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: long day travelling? | 23:18 |
| asac | enjoy your trip ;) | 23:18 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: we need to submit a bug like mozilla 535947 | 23:18 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 535947 in Server Operations "Requesting account for uploading symbols for openSUSE Linux builds" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535947 | 23:18 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - yeah, sadly i shall be driving for most of the day ;) | 23:18 |
| asac | hope the destination is worth the long travel :-P | 23:18 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: enjoy your time off | 23:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to a wedding in scotland on saturday, and we are doing the travelling tomorrow | 23:18 |
| asac | bring a good scotch for me ;) | 23:19 |
| asac | or at least drink a good scotch for me :-P | 23:19 |
| chrisccoulson | heh ;) | 23:20 |
| chrisccoulson | i got my gf insured to drive the hire car, so i will be able to have a scotch ;) | 23:20 |
| asac | sounds like a plan then :) | 23:22 |
| micahg | the upgrade complaints have begun :) | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | took a while | 23:56 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: they were about an hour ago | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | any funny one? | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | like asking for FF4 ? | 23:58 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: not yet :) | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | ohh | 23:59 |
| micahg | just grumbling so far | 23:59 |
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