[00:03] time to get the party hats out in a few hours [00:04] chrisccoulson: you have an LWN subscription? [00:04] i don't, how come? [00:05] i probably should get one [00:05] oh, they published a paid article, Ubuntu members are entitled to a free paid account [00:05] chrisccoulson: http://lwn.net/Articles/384828/ [00:06] micahg, you should be able to give out links to those though [00:06] cwillu_at_work: yeah, I could [00:06] * cwillu_at_work gives micahg puppydog eyes [00:06] chrisccoulson: I'll give you a link in PM if you want [00:09] micahg, that would be good :) [00:23] hi [00:23] can i use the mozilla build firefox for ubuntu in production ? [00:23] kaushal: ? [00:24] kaushal: are you asking which of our builds are for production? === rbz_ is now known as rbz [00:37] chrisccoulson: is it ok if I create/push thunderbird-stable tonight with thunderbird, thunderbird-locales, and enigmail based on the Lucid packages? [01:19] ccheney, epiphany working without crashing now :) [01:19] got lots of compiler warnings and glib runtime warnings to clean up now though [01:19] but it's looking good [02:04] chrisccoulson: yipee! :) [02:04] i've got most of the runtime warnings cleaned up now [02:04] chrisccoulson: i don't know if you looked at the other packages yet but some of them might could be cleaned up a bit better esp with some of the bits you dropped [02:04] yeah, i noticed there were some gtk changes [02:04] i'd like to try and avoid those [02:05] yea [02:05] iirc there were a few glib and gtk changes both, not sure if all of them can be dropped/changed so we don't need them directly in those packages or not [02:06] the GDK_BLANK_CURSOR addition in gtk can go now, as i've worked around that in epiphany (and it actually would need more changes in gtk to work correctly - it was the cause of one of the crashes) [02:06] oh ok [02:07] and the addition of GTK_IMAGE_GICON can probably go as well, as i'm going to remove all the bits of that gtom EphyGtkEntry (epiphany doesn't use the GIcon images anyway) [02:07] s/gtom/gicon/ [02:07] don't know what i was typing there ;) [02:07] ok [02:07] sounds like it should be much cleaner patch now :) [02:07] anyway, i'll carry on with that tomorrow. sleep time now :) [02:07] have a good night [02:07] thanks, you too === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [07:07] Processor Builders Queue [07:07] amd64 3 2903 jobs (five days) [07:07] oh my! :( [08:53] hey hey huckle barry [11:13] fta2: does that mean that they will fix those and make linux stable? [11:13] or just move on because its too tough === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_lunch [12:43] asac, we could expect a stable for linux in ~ a month, based on m5 [12:44] fta2: cool. thats very good news [12:44] but it will be the same release model as the beta i'm currently tracking [12:49] fta2: right. but at least we can then garther data/experience on how stable maintenance really is [12:50] e.g. we can track real security updates ... and see how we can update them and see how bad regressions are etc. [12:54] asac, well, it's done by the same people, so it will be exactly the same [12:55] fta2: could be. but its easier to explain to everyone once we have data from stable [12:55] and we actively track for security updates etc. [12:55] but you are right. its probably the same [12:58] fta2: what was the bash/sh option again to echo all commands run? [12:58] set -x [12:58] from inside the script [12:58] or sh -x script (from the outside) [12:58] fta2: is that inherited for subscripts? [12:58] fta2: whats the difference to -v ? [12:59] never used -v, it seems it just echoes the script [12:59] yeah [12:59] fta2: so can i make -x to be inherited easily? [12:59] or can i set that as an env somehow? (so it gets inherited) [12:59] ? [13:00] it should be inherited [13:00] use set +x to disable it (if you just want to debug parts of a script) [13:01] fta2: i want it inherited ... cool [13:01] let me try that [13:01] fta2: set -e -x [13:01] that ok too? [13:01] or do i need seceond line [13:01] * asac just tries ;) [13:01] i'd say you need two lines [13:01] workd [13:01] works [13:02] hmm. let me check if -e is still honoured [13:02] but bash may be more permissive (it's certainly not portable though) [13:02] yep [13:02] ok i make a second line then [13:03] ok seems its not inherited [13:03] but i found a functions.sh that is sources everywhere [13:03] so i will just set it there [13:04] wow. thats a hell lot of output ;) [13:04] but i guess i will figure where a file is removed [13:18] /win27 === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_remote [15:34] chrisccoulson: can you try to run make buildsymbols on a built firefox tree next time? === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [17:41] asac - yeah, i can do that [17:42] asac - do we not have proper debug symbols then? [17:55] amd64 3 2935 jobs (five days) [17:55] pfff [18:15] hahaahaha [18:15] 5 days!??! [18:15] LOL [18:28] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released [18:30] \o/ [18:32] fta: yeah,all the DC machines get commandeered to push CDs out [19:36] chrisccoulson: I got the ok from RAOF to add a wrapper around gnome-shell until gjs is ported to seed and to remove rpath for seed, so I'll try to prepare the SRU before the next xulrunner release [19:37] *remove rpath from gjs :-/ [19:37] micahg - thanks, i could have probably ok'd that though ;) [19:38] i don't think there's any plans to port gnome-shell to use seed [19:38] chrisccoulson: he was maintaining so I thought I'd ask him [19:38] oh, ok, i didn't realise he was maintaining it [19:39] chrisccoulson: idk maintaining, but did the last couple uploads [19:40] it would seem to benefit us if we can get gjs ported to seed so it's not a xul rdepend [19:42] congrats for your work on lucid guys \o/ [19:43] i mean, thanks [19:43] micahg - seed is the webkit equivalent of gjs though, so it would be gnome-shell ported to seed rather than gjs being ported [19:44] chrisccoulson: oh? I didn't know that [19:44] but, the upstream gnome-shell developers don't have any interest in porting to seed [19:44] actually, I might have known that but I forgot [19:44] they don't seem to consider the xul dependency to be an issue [19:44] we should try to correct them ;) [19:44] I thoguht there was an option [19:45] gjs just provides a way to access gnome libraries when using spidermonkey, and seed does a similar thing when using webkit [22:07] everning ppl of the intertubes! we came to conquer [22:14] chrisccoulson: just want to see if it works [22:14] chrisccoulson: e.g. run make buildsymbols [22:14] on top of what ewe currently do [22:14] at best we get -dbgsym still ... but also a .zip i nthe tree that we could check with launchpad folks how we can upload that to mozilla [22:15] chrisccoulson: make a spec for that: use upstream crashdb for mozilla [22:15] that was on our list for too long and now mozilla is ready for taking our debug symbols so we should try to get crashreporter enabled [22:15] and the crash submission to launchpad disabled [22:15] at least they have a real DB and not individual bugs for crashes ;) [23:13] hi asac, i will create a spec for that then, that would be good to get working [23:14] i won't be around tomorrow btw, i've taken some holiday tomorrow (long day travelling) [23:16] chrisccoulson: I have the upstream info for adding crash info if you want it [23:17] micahg - ok, that would be useful [23:17] shall we talk about it at the start of next week? i shall be unavailable from this evening [23:17] chrisccoulson: mozilla 447771 [23:17] Mozilla bug 447771 in Tracking "allow Linux distributions to submit crash reports to crash-stats.mozilla.com" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447771 [23:17] chrisccoulson: sure [23:17] excellent, thanks [23:18] chrisccoulson: long day travelling? [23:18] enjoy your trip ;) [23:18] chrisccoulson: we need to submit a bug like mozilla 535947 [23:18] Mozilla bug 535947 in Server Operations "Requesting account for uploading symbols for openSUSE Linux builds" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535947 [23:18] asac - yeah, sadly i shall be driving for most of the day ;) [23:18] hope the destination is worth the long travel :-P [23:18] chrisccoulson: enjoy your time off [23:18] i'm going to a wedding in scotland on saturday, and we are doing the travelling tomorrow [23:19] bring a good scotch for me ;) [23:19] or at least drink a good scotch for me :-P [23:20] heh ;) [23:20] i got my gf insured to drive the hire car, so i will be able to have a scotch ;) [23:22] sounds like a plan then :) [23:55] the upgrade complaints have begun :) [23:56] eheh [23:56] took a while [23:58] BUGabundo: they were about an hour ago [23:58] any funny one? [23:58] like asking for FF4 ? [23:58] BUGabundo: not yet :) [23:59] ohh [23:59] just grumbling so far