[00:03] <ripps> h00k: Any idea if we're gonna have a release party in the Duluth/Superior area? Madison is a bit too far for me
[00:04] <h00k> ripps: I've been so busy, I wasn't able to organize one up here. You are totally welcome to, if you'd like! I will be at the one in Madison on Sunday
[00:11] <tonyyarusso> MTecknology: Is it a full rewrite or minor modifications?  We made some changes to the old one, and I'm curious how hard it will be to merge those.
[00:12] <tonyyarusso> ripps: I suspect we'll have a few delayed ones, as I know Mpls, South, and NW are not really ready, but looking into events as well.
[00:12] <tonyyarusso> It seems like most of us have had a hectic April.
[00:13] <ripps> tonyyarusso: my schedule is pretty busy as well, I've been having long days of U.S. Census Training.
[00:18] <tonyyarusso> ha, fun
[00:18] <h00k> yeek :)
[01:03] <MTecknology> tonyyarusso: ground up total rewrite
[03:54] <MTecknology> tonyyarusso: you have a peak yet?
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> A little, yes. Not a decision though.  Certainly not going to try to roll it out this week.
[03:55] <MTecknology> tonyyarusso: what do you have for an opinion?
[03:56] <MTecknology> positive and negative all appreciated :)
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Well, I kind of liked the brown, so the bright orange is a bit of a shock, but the feel is a bit more sleek.
[04:02] <MTecknology> It was a culture shock for me too :P
[04:12] <chinoto> anyone know the release time?
[04:13] <Takyoji> The exact time?
[04:15] <Takyoji> Just generally tomorrow. There's always been ISOs available, and people are able to upgrade to 10.04 right now
[04:15] <Takyoji> It's just that tomorrow it gets the label of being the official release (to my understanding)
[04:17] <chinoto> exact time of torrent being available
[04:18] <chinoto> I just realized I could have meant when is the new mountain dew going to be release...
[04:19] <chinoto> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ only shows release candidates rather than regular release
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> chinoto: The exact time is not and has never been defined.
[04:20] <chinoto> ok
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> Usually it's between about 6:00 AM and 10:00 AM our time though, just based on history.
[04:21] <chinoto> well, back to homework then
[04:22] <chinoto> or screwing off >.>
[04:23] <Takyoji> :P
[04:38] <chinoto> does this group ever have meetings?
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> yeah, but not as often as we'd like.  You should organize one!
[04:41] <chinoto> ...
[04:41] <chinoto> I don't think I would be a good organizer
[04:41] <chinoto> I don't even have a license (close though)
[04:52] <Takyoji> Just set a date. :P
[04:52] <Takyoji> otherwise we're past due for a meeting this month
[04:53]  * Takyoji blames it on tonyyarusso :P
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> yup
[04:54] <chinoto> I set TOMORROW :D
[04:54] <chinoto> (cause of the official release)
[04:55] <chinoto> (also I was kidding)
[04:58] <Takyoji> :P
[04:59] <Takyoji> otherwise I think meetings are typically every first tuesday of the month.
[04:59] <Takyoji> Then again, I've probably still got it wrong. :P
[05:03] <chinoto> yay installfest http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/events
[05:03] <chinoto> May 1st
[05:03] <Takyoji> Yea, I'll be there.
[05:03] <Takyoji> and I'll actually has a laptop fer once!
[05:03] <chinoto> maybe I should do my homework >.>
[05:04] <Takyoji> Pssh, homework's overrated. :P
[05:04] <Takyoji> only pansies do homework!
[05:04] <Takyoji> (joking of course)
[05:05] <chinoto> I have english and visual basic (have to switch back to windows for that >:() from last week
[05:06] <chinoto> anyone know how to start programming in php, like make a program with a button?
[05:06] <chinoto> it doesn't even have to do anything
[05:06] <Takyoji> Yea, there's extensions for PHP to do that.
[05:06] <chinoto> ?
[05:06] <Takyoji> Though PHP isn't really considered much of a language of development of desktop applications.
[05:06] <Takyoji> http://gtk.php.net/
[05:08] <Takyoji> For development of desktop applications, Python would be more suitable
[05:09] <chinoto> I suggested learning C to my dad and he said it would be easier to learn php
[05:10] <chinoto> I've seen a lot of apps using python
[05:10] <Takyoji> I also consider PHP an easier platform to learn from (if you have a general knowledge of HTML/CSS)
[05:11] <chinoto> I do a little bit of html stuff in notepad++ for my website
[05:11] <Takyoji> otherwise I have books on PHP, XHTML/CSS, JS, Ajax, XML, Python, C, C++, C#, UML, and so on.
[05:11] <Takyoji> and my primary job is web development, primarily dealing with PHP
[05:11] <chinoto> neat
[05:12] <Takyoji> If you want to borrow any books, perhaps you could be at the installfest in St. Paul and I could lend them to you. :P
[05:12] <chinoto> did you have anything to do with the loco group's website?
[05:12] <Takyoji> Yes, I have some administrative privileges. I have a couple changes that I want to submit that I haven't submitted yet.
[05:13] <chinoto> 6 months later: here's your book back
[05:13] <Takyoji> otherwise it's a Drupal installation
[05:13] <Takyoji> I know XHTML, CSS, and PHP to a depth. So I don't really "need" the books currently. :P
[05:13] <chinoto> brb
[05:14] <Takyoji> otherwise I have yet to actually do something with Python yet
[05:15] <Takyoji> and I have to leave for the night; I shall return tomorrow as usual.
[05:24] <chinoto> American Pie with apple pie, bye
[17:53] <tonyyarusso> Let the insanity ensue.
[17:53] <sparklehistory> Does that mean it's released?
[17:54] <tonyyarusso> No, it means that thousands of people in #ubuntu-release-party are asking "are we there yet"? every 0.003 seconds.
[17:54] <sparklehistory> ah
[17:54] <chinoto> I wanted to ask if anyone had an estimate, but I already asked yesterday :D
[17:55] <chinoto> apparently 6AM-10AM wasn't right
[17:56] <tonyyarusso> chinoto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncidentReports/2010-04-29-Late-respin-for-bug-570765
[17:56] <chinoto> I was hoping to crawl out of bed and download the torrent right away
[17:59] <chinoto> well better safe than stuck (I need windows for vb class)
[18:15] <chinoto> RELEASED!
[18:24] <tonyyarusso> NOW it's actually released.
[18:24] <sparklehistory> yay
[18:27] <chinoto> just downloaded deluge, hope it's like utorrent
[18:29] <chinoto> wow thats a lot of peers 0_o
[18:37] <chinoto> I wish I had a cd labeler so I could make my disk perty
[18:41] <chinoto> so who plans on seeding the torrent?
[18:44] <tonyyarusso> I will be.
[18:45] <tonyyarusso> ALready trying to, although deluge is throwing some errors.
[18:45] <chinoto> like what?
[18:46] <chinoto> I'm already seeding, aiming to give back twice
[18:48] <chinoto> my client says no incoming connections, yet I am seeding at near 200 KiB/s (set my limit)
[18:49] <chinoto> probably should cut back, internet is slowing down
[19:03] <chinoto> ok no more seeding for me, brother complained about not being able to do his homework
[22:15] <chinoto> anyone figure out how to upgrade from disk (upgrade not fresh install or network upgrade)
[22:16] <chinoto> I'll probably do a fresh install later, but I want to try an upgrade to see how everything functions
[22:27] <chinoto> I should have separated my home directory...
[23:16] <ripps> Is there anybody near Duluth/Superior that wants to help plan a release party?