[00:00] <xangua> theGman: aptitude search packagename
[00:00] <ervis> dagon_, US time
[00:00] <dominicdinada> idk i am being facious since people who are a day ahead keep asking and it is not even the 29th in about 90% of the world
[00:00] <dagon_> ervis: that's what I thought..
[00:00] <felon> theres too many cops in here
[00:00] <Chetic> how do I change the default appearance settings for a guest session?
[00:00] <codertux> hi, I'm having issues with cyrus-sasl authentication. I'm following the tutorial at http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/index.html#config-secure-auth
[00:00] <dominicdinada> maybe 95% of the world
[00:00] <codertux> From what I can tell, whenever I tri to send mail using my client, postfix does not connect to saslauthd properly, ignoring the contents of /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf
[00:00] <Drabzz> using more than two syllables is swearing to some.
[00:00] <theGman> xangua: Thx. And is "apt-get" the cli installation tool?
[00:00] <codertux> I'm logging the mysql queries and they don't show up in the log
[00:00] <FloodBot4> codertux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:01] <xangua> theGman: you can use apt-get or aptitude for install
[00:01] <h00k> ubottu: tell felon about codeofconduct
[00:01]  * dominicdinada needs a cOPS help :/\
[00:01] <dagon_> ervis: so the US is like -6 hours?
[00:02] <ervis> yes
[00:02] <ervis> i live in EU too
[00:02] <dominicdinada> dagon_ Central U.S. is -6
[00:02] <kimmo> hasn't US like 4 different time zones?
[00:02] <dominicdinada> kimmo: 4 or more
[00:02] <dagon_> dominicdinada: Then I was counting right
[00:03] <theGman> dagon_: It depends on where in the US one migh be...I'm only -5 though DST gets involved too :P
[00:03] <theGman> kimmo: Yes.
[00:03] <dagon_> theGman: potato, potato ;)
[00:03] <Guest80148> anyone here use sqlite or know where I could get some general help?
[00:03] <Drabzz> Probably 5 if you include Hawaii
[00:03] <dominicdinada> i think it has like 7 offical times zones
[00:03] <dancallo> Drazz: Ok, Contiguous US
[00:03] <theGman> xangua: Thx again for the info.
[00:03] <patrick> how do I install enlightenment in Lucid?
[00:04] <Guest5117> can we talk about lucid in here yet?
[00:04] <ervis> 5,6 or 7 the idea is we must wait :(
[00:04] <dancallo> If you try, you get kicked to Ubuntu-Release Party channel
[00:04] <theGman> Guest80148: Yeah, #sqlite
[00:04] <felon> hook
[00:05] <theGman> ervis: Wait for what?
[00:05] <ervis> download lucid :)
[00:05] <felon> who are you
[00:05] <Guest5117> anyone using enlightenment in Lucid?
[00:05] <ubuntu547473> someone who is familiar with apparmor pm me
[00:05] <dancallo> You go to the #Ubuntu-Release-Party channel and you are immediately faced with "Don't ask when Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is going to be released" message
[00:05] <theGman> ervis: Ah, the latest ver I take it?
[00:06] <CaptainTrek> yes because the exact time is not set
[00:06] <theGman> What, if I may, does the "LTS" stand for?
[00:06] <CaptainTrek> Long Term Support
[00:06] <dagon_> Long Term Support
[00:06] <dancallo> My sources say the release is 0700 Samoa time on 30 April
[00:06] <dagon_> CaptainTrek: you beat me to it :P
[00:06] <h00k> !LTS | theGman
[00:06] <theGman> Ah, thx. Been wondering about that.
[00:06] <CaptainTrek> i iz fast typer
[00:07] <felon> im not signing anything
[00:07] <felon> electronic or with old fashon lead baby !
[00:08] <Guest5117> does anyone know how to install enlightenment in Lucid?
[00:09] <theGman> Where can I find the latest httpd/php/mysql pkgs ubuntu uses?
[00:09] <canozan> i have a conflict between my two partitions which avoids me from booting to win7. can anyone help?
[00:09] <jpds> theGman: Lucid?
[00:09] <powertool08> Guest5117: Does sudo apt-get install enlightenment work?
[00:09] <TunoQuico> yeah!!
[00:09] <theGman> My prob is that Fedora stays so much on the bleeding edge that it's messing with my web consultancy work.
[00:09] <TunoQuico> mmmm
[00:10] <Aidanie> Hey guys, does anyone know what time Ubuntu normally comes out at? (GMT)
[00:10] <jpds> Aidanie: Random.
[00:10] <h00k> felon: regardless if you're signing or not, you need to abide by the code of conduct and the guidelines, including language
[00:10] <CaptainTrek> there's no specific release time ever
[00:10] <aj00200> !isitout Aidenie
[00:10] <Typos_King> !ask | canozan
[00:10] <powertool08> aj00200: You need the pipe --> |
[00:11] <Guest5117> powertool08, yes it doesnt work
[00:11] <FGTrooper> Hello, when, tomorow, Lucid will go out ?
[00:11]  * Typos_King hands aj00200 'the pipe'
[00:11] <felon> or what
[00:11] <theGman> jpds: Nah, 9.10
[00:11] <felon> huh¿
[00:12] <powertool08> Guest5117: I'd try 'sudo apt-cache search enligtenment' That should list possible packages, then 'sudo apt-get install <the package you found>'
[00:12] <h00k> felon: do you have any support questions for the channel?
[00:12] <Typos_King> !outyet | FGTrooper
[00:12] <Guest59950> Has anyone tried using any USB Video Input devices on Ubuntu lately?  If so, what software are you using for it/
[00:12] <Drabzz> thanx powertool08, I can use that too
[00:12] <Rudd-O> hey guys.  chkconfig fails with a lot of errors
[00:12] <powertool08> Drabzz: np
[00:13] <Harbinger> why is ubuntu so much fail :(
[00:13] <theGman> My webserver runs some things like drupal and it's not ready for php 5.3 yet so I'm hunting around for a diff lux that I can use off a pendrive to deno to clients..
[00:13] <Typos_King> Rudd-0.... what's that for?
[00:13] <theGman> jpds: Not sure of the name...:P
[00:13] <felon> acually i do
[00:13] <FGTrooper> Thank you ubottu ! ^_^
[00:13] <felon> lots
[00:13] <Rudd-O> Typos_King: chkconfig --level 35 mysql on
[00:13] <vernr> hi again. is there any way you can make a custom liveCD without affecting your current install?
[00:14] <theGman> So where can I find out the latest httpd/php/mysql pkgs ubuntu uses?
[00:14] <Typos_King> Rudd-0:.... what's that for?   I don't use chkconfig myself, so
[00:14] <theGman> Or how
[00:14] <canozan> how can i resolve a conflict between two partitions?
[00:14] <Ubunuone1> how many hours are until ubuntu 10.04 release?
[00:14] <h00k> felon: well, go ahead and ask, just mind the language while you're here. If it's a lucid question head over to #ubuntu+1
[00:14] <jpds> theGman: Oh, check packages.ubuntu.com.
[00:14] <jpds> !ititout | Ubunuone1
[00:14] <Ubunuone1> !ititout
[00:14] <Guest5117> canozan, tell them youll turn this car around so fast it will make thier head spin
[00:14] <theGman> jpds: Thx! :)
[00:14] <powertool08> theGman: sudo apt-cache show <http/php/mysql pkg name>
[00:15] <jpds> !isitout | Ubunuone1
[00:15] <felon> thx. hook u da man.
[00:15] <jimtahu> canozan: what is the conflict saying?
[00:15] <vernr> party? hehe
[00:15] <Ubunuone1> !isitout
[00:15] <Buhmillion> hey guys, any idea how to stop squid from reporting that the original URL?
[00:15] <Typos_King> !details | canozan
[00:15] <vernr> can i bring chips
[00:15] <Buhmillion> hey guys, any idea how to stop squid from reporting that the original IP?
[00:15] <canozan> the first one ends after the second one starts
[00:15] <Guest5117> powertool08, nothin
[00:15] <VirusTB> rarw
[00:15] <Ubunuone1> doesnt seem to work :D
[00:15] <theGman> I take it Karmic is the current released ver?
[00:16] <Guest5117> powertool08, a few things for sudo apt-cache search e17 but nothing i can make sense of
[00:16] <vernr> hi again. is there any way you can make a custom liveCD without affecting your current install?
[00:16] <Typos_King> vernr:   non-alcoholic one :P, only [root]beers allowed :P
[00:16] <jimtahu> canozan: that shouldn't be a problem
[00:16] <VirusTB> Uhm. How can i check for filesystem my USB drive is in Ubuntu?
[00:16] <VirusTB> FAT32 or NTFS??
[00:16] <Typos_King> VirusTB:     sudo fdisk -l;
[00:16] <Hillshum> VirusTB: Then find your drive in there
[00:16] <VirusTB> Typos_King,  doest fdisk format the USB?
[00:17] <Typos_King> heh
[00:17] <vernr> lol "root"beers
[00:17] <theGman> VirusTB: No, that cmd just lists the drives.
[00:17] <Typos_King> VirusTB:     -l; means 'list'
[00:17] <powertool08> Guest5117: I'm on debian atm, the package for me is just called 'e17' typically ubuntu and debian are the similar if not the same.
[00:17] <Drabzz> #ubuntu-release-party
[00:17] <theGman> So, IIUC Karmic is the current released ver yes? No?
[00:17] <felon> party over here !
[00:18] <Maletor> Is the release at midnight?
[00:18] <felon> yo, whats that one umm channel called. the off topic ubuntu or something
[00:18] <canozan> i was trying to make room in order to install xp, and i wanted to resize one of my primary partitions, win7 installed on it. windows manager and gparted didn't let me do that, and i run magic partition, which started with an error warning, i said ok, and i think it changed starting and endind values of my partitions
[00:18] <powertool08> theGman: Yes, until sometime later today when they release lucid.
[00:18] <Capt_Blackwood> !offtopic
[00:18] <Typos_King> Guest5117:     it shows up on apt-cache search, as e16
[00:18] <theGman> powertool08: Sheesh! :P
[00:18] <VirusTB> Typos_King, ok tha fdisk command seems to be to technical for me... i cant find the name of my USB
[00:19] <vernr> is there any way you can make a custom liveCD without affecting your current install?
[00:19] <VirusTB> Typos_King,  i named my USB  "Kingstoon 8GB"
[00:19] <theGman> powertool08: An, from the chatter in here, it seems that's an open ended time too right?
[00:19] <canozan> i had 196GB partition with win7 on it, and now it is only 33GB, i can mount it but with gparted, my entire hard disk seems to be unallocated, although i can see my partitions in terminal
[00:19] <powertool08> theGman: It would appear so, I've never waited around to get it immediately. I've always waited a day.
[00:19] <theGman> canozan: Was the partition info actually written to disk or just configured? It makes a big diff.
[00:19] <vernr> isn't there something called ubuntu remix or whatever
[00:20] <Typos_King> VirusTB:     then it'll show usually under that label, is going to be either an 'sdb' device or 'sdc'
[00:20] <xangua> vernr: ubuntu netbook remix
[00:20] <theGman> powertool08: I agree. See if anyone has probs first right?:P
 i don't understand your question
[00:20] <vernr> im looking for that thing that makes custom livecds
[00:20] <Typos_King> VirusTB:     run fdisk -l; and paste it for us to see :)
[00:20] <Typos_King> !paste | VirusTB
[00:20] <powertool08> theGman: Somewhat, and I didn't mind waiting.
[00:20] <powertool08> !remaster | vernr
[00:21] <Typos_King> canozan:   what's the error partition magic is giving?
[00:21] <Buhmillion> partition magic? use gparted
[00:21]  * xangua thought this was #ubuntu, not ##windows7
[00:21] <kaff3ine> hi everyone, i have a quick question. i just did chmod 666 /dev/tty0, is there anything wrong with leaving it like that? also, what is it usually?
[00:21] <Typos_King> Buhmillion:  he'd used both
[00:21] <theGman> canozan: In garted or similar tools, you can tell it what you would LIKE to do but if you never commit the changes to disk...ie..write the partition table the changes are not comitted but still "appear" set in whichever tool you used.
[00:21] <VirusTB> Typos_King,  ah ok i see it  now
[00:21] <vernr> thanks powertool08 just what i needed
[00:21] <Guest5117> Typos_King, does it matter if I use that instead of e17?
[00:21] <powertool08> vernr: np
[00:21] <jimtahu> kaff3ine: shouldn't be any problems
[00:21] <powertool08> Guest5117: e16 is the older version.
[00:21] <VirusTB> Typos_King,  had to many usb's plugged in so it was a bit confusing.... removed a few.. :D thanks
[00:22] <Ubunuone1> im new at such things linke Linux, ive heard ubuntu should be the one and only userfriendly distribution, but there are several others like Fedora, what do you think about Fedora etc. ?
[00:22] <JetPackTuxedo> anyone know how I can get ISO-13346 UDF support?
[00:22] <totic> Hi I have ubuntu 8.04 and want to upgrade to the new version, can I do it without having to burn a CD?
[00:22] <totic>  
[00:22] <jimtahu> kaff3ine: it will probly reset next reboot
[00:22] <kaushal> hi
[00:22] <xangua> !ot > Ubunuone1
[00:22] <h00k> !upgrade | totic
[00:22] <Typos_King> Guest5117:    not sure, I used enlightment a long long while ago, I have no complaints, one version isn't going to make you or break you, same goes for Lucid seekers :P
[00:22] <xangua> totic: yes you can; lucid lynx is released tomorrow
[00:22] <VirusTB> hey! 10.04 should be out today!
[00:22] <kaff3ine> jimtahu: thanks, i appreciate it. i'm not 'new' to linux, but i never really had the motivation to figure it out. luckily, i'm starting to get it.
[00:22] <Buhmillion> Ubunuone1, ubuntu is the most user friendly, fedora is kind of lacking
[00:22] <kaushal> can i use the mozilla build firefox for ubuntu in production ?
[00:22] <alket> I know that this question must be asked too many times but I just want to be from the first one who grabs the iso ?
[00:23] <jimtahu> kaff3ine: glad to help, have fun
[00:23] <Guest5117> powertool08, Typos_King thanks! I will try that!
[00:23] <Typos_King> VirusTB:     unfortunately, no everyone lives west of the Behring Strait like you do :P, so that'll be tomorrow for me
[00:23] <h00k> !ot
[00:23] <theGman> Ubunuone1: Fedora is awesome, if you someone who likes to keeo their apps on the bleeding edge. Very solid too. Both have their pros/cons. :)
[00:24] <VirusTB> What Virtual machine program should I use on Windows 7 to use Ubuntu? VMWare? Virtual Box? ( i got a AMD processor 64bits i think :S ) Typos_King
[00:24] <xangua> kaushal: for using mozilla build fx try ubuntuzilla repository http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/
[00:24] <h00k> theGman, Ubunuone1: please don't use this channel for idle discussion
[00:24] <Typos_King> alket:    go watch a few reruns of 'mad tv', get some sleep and retry on friday :|
[00:24] <Buhmillion> VirusTB. virtualbox
[00:24] <powertool08> VirusTB: It's a preference really. I perfer virtualbox.
[00:25] <alket> Typos_Kink: lol
[00:25] <Typos_King> VirusTB:     either will do
[00:25] <jimtahu> VirusTB: I use virtualbox too
[00:25] <theGman> Buhmillion: I wouldn't say "lacking" I am running Fedora as my os currently. It's very user friendly.
[00:25] <Buhmillion> anybody here know how to enable virus scanning on dnasguardian?
[00:25] <theGman> h00k: Yessir.
[00:25] <h00k> !virus | Buhmillion
[00:25] <kaff3ine> Can anyone help me figure out why i can't get ddclient/namecheap.com to play nice?
[00:26] <sp0spo> usb external hotplug does not work... I have to reboot for ubuntu to see my external hard drive if i plug in a new one. ... what is causing this?
[00:26] <theGman> VirusTB: I use virtualbox on win AND linux, works great in both...and it's totally free!
[00:26] <totic> xangua: but that updates to 10.12 not to 9.02 (the stable version)
[00:26] <powertool08> !botsnack
[00:26] <Buhmillion> ubottu, i don't have a virus problem. Dansguardian is a proxy server. I'm proxifing for windows clients, that NEED virus scanning
[00:27] <Typos_King> kaff3ine:   not familiar with either :{
[00:27] <Buhmillion> anybody here know how to enable virus scanning on dansguardian?
[00:27] <Typos_King> !hal | sp0spo
[00:28] <Typos_King> !details | sp0spo
[00:28] <linusoleander> 	
[00:28] <linusoleander> I realy need some help here.
[00:28] <linusoleander> I'm getting PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library when trying to run PHP in the terminal in ubuntu
[00:28] <linusoleander> Any ideas why?
[00:28] <FloodBot4> linusoleander: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <kaff3ine> Typos_King: thanks for the reply, at least.
[00:29] <Buhmillion> anybody here know how to enable virus scanning on dansguardian?
[00:29] <Typos_King> kaff3ine:   I thought you were going to ask on kaffeine, I was going to say, kde4 uses dragonfly now ^_^, but anyhow
[00:29] <xangua> Buhmillion: what is dansguardian¿
[00:29] <powertool08> Buhmillion: This might help? http://www.howtoforge.com/squid-proxy-server-on-ubuntu-9.04-server-with-dansguardian-clamav-and-wpad-proxy-auto-detection
[00:29] <DasEi> Buhmillion: you need snort for that
[00:29] <sonOfIslam> anybody i want to use opengl/glut on netbeans on ubuntu
[00:29] <Buhmillion> xangua, dansguardian is a parental control proxy add on
[00:30] <Buhmillion> DasEi, you don't need snort.
[00:30] <Typos_King> linusoleander:    have you checked yet in -> sudo apt-get -f install; ?
[00:30] <Buhmillion> powertool08, THANKS!
[00:30] <powertool08> Buhmillion: "The "contentscanner" line is already in /etc/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf towards the bottom. Uncomment this line to tell DansGuardian to use ClamAV to scan items requested via HTTP."
[00:30] <powertool08> np
[00:30] <box> gvfs or something appears to be broken on my ubuntu, upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04. whenever i try to open an sftp:// or ftp:// location, anything other than a regular folder, i get "The specified location is not supported". And the only type in Connect to server... is "Custom Location". looks like i don't have protocol support?
[00:31] <box> it worked before upgrade.
[00:31] <linusoleander> Typos_King: Nothing is being installed
[00:31] <Typos_King> box:   one reason why a full-install is usually recommended
[00:31] <h00k> !lucid | box
[00:32] <box> okay okay, i'll move over there. any troubleshooting ideas would be a much appreciated, however.
[00:33] <linusoleander> I'm trying to uninstall and install php5 again, but the php5 dir isnt being removed:
[00:33] <linusoleander> sudo apt-get remove --purge php5
[00:33] <DasEi> Buhmillion: you're  right, it works itself on iptables, I mixed in my mind from router config
[00:33] <Maletor> Can I download 10.4 at midnight?
[00:33] <Maletor> EST
 it gave me an error with the starting and ending of a partition, it said it had to be changed and i just said ok. now one ends after the other starts
[00:34] <Typos_King> linusoleander:    sudo apt-get purge php5;   maybe
[00:34] <DasEi> Maletor: can do it know (torrent!) and then update
 i am not sure, i just clicked ok and windows shut down
[00:34] <DasEi> now*
[00:34] <linusoleander> Typos_King: Same thing
[00:34] <h00k> Maletor: nobody knows when it is out
[00:34] <Maletor> there should be very little difference for alternate cd right DasEi?
[00:34] <linusoleander> The php5 dir isnt being created
[00:34] <Typos_King> linusoleander:    is not removing?
[00:35] <DasEi> Maletor: yes, I do the same ting
[00:35] <linusoleander> Typos_King: no, the files isnt being removed eather
[00:35] <linusoleander> I tried to remove them by my self, but they are not being created
[00:35] <Typos_King> canozan:       there's a likelyhood you may have 'truncated' one or two partitions, and they may have the wrong sectors sections and as a result neither filesystem in them will be accessible :|
[00:36] <Typos_King> canozan:    since win32 and I think other OS also keep a partition mappings records, and their allocation table can get corrupted deeming the files not  accessible
[00:37] <linusoleander> I realy need some help with this, the site is live and I dont know what do to...
[00:37] <Random832> has anyone else had problems with screen flashing after resuming suspend on an i915? (I'm on Lucid, but this problem was present when I was on Karmic as well, so any workarounds are welcome)
[00:37] <Typos_King> linusoleander:    ... you don't get any error mesages?
[00:37] <linusoleander> Typos_King: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613/mysqli.so
[00:38] <linusoleander> That is one of them
[00:39] <box> what does ip mean in the aptitude search results?
[00:39] <Typos_King> Random832:    that's usually due to a videocard driver issue, when the screen tries to repaint and the drivers can't after a hiatus, usually changing drivers does the trick
[00:39] <Random832> Typos_King: it's X windows specifically, not the framebuffer itself, if that matters
[00:39] <powertool08> box: I think it means Installed Program.
[00:39] <Random832> xev reports a lostfocus gotfocus and several expose events when it happens
[00:39] <konsumer> hello everyone, can some one link me to the tutorial for wireless set up on a compaq presario 2200 please? Thank you.
[00:39] <Random832> it's mainly my gnome-terminal that does it - though the panel sometimes also does
[00:39] <dcmeese> What processes can I kill if my Ubuntu computer is running very slow? Before my GRUB update it was pretty fast..... (it has 256mb ram)
[00:40] <fusarium> Installed Ubuntu Server last night. Got Shorewall installed today. Now, when I try to FTP in, I am not getting anywhere. I get a 'Connection Timed Out'. Is this due to Shorewall, or do I need to start some services when I restart the server? I restarted vsftpd, but still can't get in through FTP or PuTTY. Any ideas?
[00:40] <hypetech> Can anybody help me with a GDM issue?
[00:40] <Random832> how do you "change drivers"? is this something that can be done on the fly (or with only killing X rather than changing the kernel somehow?)
[00:40] <raiddinn> I have a question that is probably really easy to do and I just can't figure it out, when I change resolutions there is a pink box in the upper left, how do I get rid of that?
[00:41] <Random832> raiddinn: doesn't it go away if you wait five seconds?
[00:41] <raiddinn> it has been there for like an hour
[00:41] <Buhmillion> does anybody know where i can download an actual malware sample, preferably one for a windows platform?
[00:41] <powertool08> fusarium: I usually use nmap for things like that. Start with the localhost, then your private ip (192.168.etc) then move outward to the public ip. Find the hop where the port is closed and go from there.
[00:42] <Random832> raiddinn: wait... no -  close the monitor preferences window
[00:42] <Random832> Typos_King: new symptom - it's switching resolutions randomly. (apparently before it was switching between 1024x768 and 1024x768
[00:42] <fusarium> I'll need to install nmap? Is it a    sudo get-apt install nmap    command?
[00:42] <Random832> is there a way to like kill RANDR?
[00:42] <zedkappa> fusarium: you should already have nmap
[00:42] <zedkappa> it comes with ubuntu
[00:43] <powertool08> fusarium: yes. then the syntax is 'nmap -p <port of vsftp> localhost' It may need sudo.
[00:43] <Typos_King> linusoleander:    .... and I assume you have mysql installed?  .... can't say..... has it been running well before?
[00:43] <raiddinn> thanks, that works, is there a way I can keep the preferences window open and just never have that pink box show up?
[00:43] <konsumer> anyone know how to set up a wireless connection on ubuntu ?
[00:43] <konsumer> ubuntu 9.10 to be exact
[00:43] <DasEi> Buhmillion: wrong chan her, go to http://www.remote-exploit.org/ for such
[00:43] <raiddinn> or is that something that is just going to be like that
[00:43] <fusarium> great! Thanks. I'm reading on the documentation. So, I'm going to start on the inside and work my way out to see what the problem is, correct? Is this something that happens often, or did the server get shut down wrong and it buggered something up?
[00:44] <zedkappa> konsumer: are you using a laptop or desktop?
[00:44] <Flamey> zedkappa: actually, nmap isn't installed on my karmic system
[00:44] <cernenus> have i been hacked?
[00:44] <Typos_King> !details | konsumer
[00:44] <powertool08> fusarium: Its possible, you can restart the service with 'sudo service vsftp restart' and yes, start on the inside.
[00:44] <konsumer> brb
[00:45] <zedkappa> Flamey: it isnt? sorry my mistake
[00:45] <fusarium> powertool08, zedkappa, thanks for the help!
[00:45] <raiddinn> nm, thanks again Random
[00:45] <raiddinn> i will work with it like that
[00:45] <cernenus> does anyone know what louckout.bak or zoodkrak.bak are
[00:46] <mikelifeguard> How do you tell ubuntu what its domain name is?
[00:46] <zedkappa> mikelifeguard: what version are you using?
[00:46] <h00k> cernenus: please keep this channel ontopic with support questions :) thanks
[00:46] <box> powertool08, i meant to say pi . wtf does that mean?
[00:46] <mikelifeguard> zedkappa: karmic
[00:46] <h00k> !wtf | box
[00:46] <zedkappa> mikelifeguard: go to places>network
[00:46] <box> =\
[00:46] <mikelifeguard> zedkappa: a server :)
[00:46] <zedkappa> sorry
[00:47] <zedkappa> yes server
[00:47] <zedkappa> 'connect to server'
[00:47] <mikelifeguard> zedkappa: no, this computer is a server - no GUI available
[00:48] <Hardwire03> hello
[00:48] <cernenus> these files are in my home folder and cannot find the online, i was wondering if they were part of the install or something else
[00:48] <zedkappa> oh ok sorry about that i didnt get it
[00:48] <powertool08> box: I'm not sure, maybe the same? When you have aptitude running, hit '?' and see if it gives you info.
[00:48] <DasEi> cernenus: bak is a typical windows file
[00:49] <Hardwire03> does ubuntu 10.4 support Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio VARPAK 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card?
[00:49] <sp0spo> what program handles auto mount? if i plug in a usb tumb drive, ubuntu desktop shows the thumb drive
[00:49] <sp0spo> what does htat
[00:49] <xangua> !lucid > Hardwire03
[00:49] <samsonite> fstab
[00:49] <samsonite> sp0spo fstab
[00:49] <cernenus> so i have windows files on my linux system?
[00:49] <DasEi> cernenus: you can use clamav or antivir to search for (win-)viruses, things like rkhunter for trojans (linux-ones)
[00:49] <gop> hi is thier a proper way to install ubuntu server on to a usb flash drive
[00:50] <DasEi> cernenus: seems like, never seen such on my -nix boxes
[00:50] <powertool08> gop: I don't think server was meant to be put on a flash drive...
[00:51] <gop> powertool08:  does server do to much writes
[00:51] <samsonite> gop depends obviously
[00:51] <gop> I am trying to make a baremetal free hypervisor using virtualbox headless and ubuntu
[00:51] <samsonite> server on a thumb drive sounds like a terrible idea though
[00:51] <gop> all the data would be on a sata drive
[00:51] <cernenus> grrr no risky sites guess caues i am using a wifi conn labeled "free wifi".
[00:51] <powertool08> gop: I dunno, typically servers are used for long uptime processes, usb drives are not for long uptimes.
[00:52] <gop> all data would be sata disk with linux raid 1
[00:52] <gop> just use usb for boot
[00:52] <gop> this is for home use
[00:52] <gop> home lab
[00:52] <gop> so most of the writes would be on the sata disks
[00:52] <gop> two 500 gigs sata disk in raid 1
[00:54] <vernr> can anyone tell me how to setup my system so that traffic only goes through my PPTP VPN?
[00:56] <humphreybc> #ubuntu-manual are having their release party!
[00:56] <humphreybc> come join in
[00:56] <humphreybc> we're really cool
[00:57] <powertool08> vernr: You could use an iptables command which redirects all outbound traffic to the VPN. There may be a better solution and I don't know the exact iptables command, sorry.
[00:57] <fabiobik> hello. i think i have a big big problem. Ive updated to the beta version. and now the ubuntu not work
[00:57] <fabiobik> ive updated from 9.10
[00:57] <fabiobik> to 9.04
[00:57] <fabiobik> upa
[00:57] <fabiobik> ups
[00:58] <fabiobik> my version is the last stable
[00:58] <Glacer1> where is like defragment at in ubuntu? like in windows
[00:58] <fabiobik> i think is 9.10
[00:58] <fabiobik> and the beta is 9.14
[00:58] <samsonite> Glacer1 dont need it
[00:58] <powertool08> !defragment | Glacer1
[00:58] <powertool08> aww :( I thought it had a factoid.
[00:58] <Pici> !enter
[00:59] <Pici> !defrag | Glacer1
[00:59] <fabiobik> anyone can help me? i really dont want to loose my data
[00:59] <fabiobik> its very important
[00:59] <arand> !lucid | fabiobik
[00:59] <Glacer1> thanks
[00:59] <mosno> samitheberber, then why does ext4 have defrag tools?
[00:59] <mikelifeguard> mosno: Just In Case. ext4's online defrag should be all you need.
[01:00] <samitheberber> mosno?
[01:00] <flip> hi
[01:00] <StevenPearce88> Is there any support for blackberry's in ubuntu besides just syching like if you wanted to upgrade your OS?
[01:00] <flip> bitches
[01:00] <kaff3ine> quit
[01:00] <mosno> mikelifeguard, is that active by default in lucid?
[01:00] <mosno> samitheberber?
[01:00] <vadi2> How can I get 64bit flash to work in google chrome?
[01:00] <mikelifeguard> mosno: I assume so.
[01:00] <mosno> this is probably a FAQ but does Skype work well on x86_64?
[01:00] <samitheberber> mosno: oh, you used wrong nick
[01:01] <Dante_J> Good morning all.
[01:01] <jimtahu> mosno: rather well, I make use of it
[01:01] <mosno> jimtahu, cool
[01:01] <StevenPearce88> oh will 10.04/Lucid have any support for it?
[01:01] <Dante_J> Today is D-Day for 10.04. Please Digg this story up, and get the news out to the masses:
[01:01] <Dante_J> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Today_is_D_Day_for_Ubuntu_10_04_LTS_Lucid_Lynx
[01:02] <h00k> http://ubuntu-manual.org/ The Ubuntu Manual is now released
[01:03] <Dante_J> h00k: Great news!
[01:03] <Typos_King> vadi2:     I'd just get the libflashplayer.so and dump it at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:04] <Typos_King> vadi2:     I know chrome/opera/ff use that folder to load plugins
[01:04] <vadi2> Typos_King: did that... it's not picking it up for some strange reason.
[01:04] <Sp0t> Good morning all
[01:04] <edwardthefma> hello all
[01:04] <vadi2> well, ~/.mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/flash-addons/plugins. Didn't try yours. Moment then.
[01:04] <bentkus> if im using rc, will i need to dist-upgrade or just update/upgrade to get the ne version
[01:04] <Typos_King> vadi2:   what about other browser?   like Opera? not trying to push you to it, just wondering if it's a chrome setting, rather than not reading it
[01:05] <vadi2> Typos_King: firefox isn't working as well
[01:05]  * edwardthefma is thinking about trying out linux but is un shur about his reqierments
[01:05] <jimtahu> hi there
[01:05] <Typos_King> ok
[01:05] <Sp0t> what time is Lucid Lynx going to be released?
[01:05] <Typos_King> vadi2:     dump it at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:05] <Typos_King> !outyet | Sp0t
[01:05] <TMKCodes> h00k: the manual does not open in document viewer
[01:05] <Alcor> the 10.4 manual just got released.
[01:05] <Alcor> ?
[01:05]  * jimtahu is thinking edwardthefma should givit a try if he feels up to it.
[01:06] <bentkus> edwardthefma: the reqs of ubuntu are so minimal
[01:06] <Typos_King> Sp0t:    don't forget to wear proper dress code :P
[01:06] <vadi2> Typos_King: same result, unfortunately
[01:06] <ubuntujenkins> TMKCodes: try downloading it again some people are having first download issuse we don't know why
[01:06] <Sp0t> ubottu well today is April 29, at least in Thailand it is already
[01:06] <bentkus> edwardthefma: if you can run >= win xp you can run ubuntu
[01:06] <edwardthefma> good
[01:06] <h00k> TMKCodes: it should?
[01:06] <xangua> Sp0t: not in ubuntu quarters
[01:07] <Typos_King> vadi2:    what if you use Firefox's install folder plugins subfolder?
[01:07] <vadi2> Typos_King: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/54916/selection_001_C67G3w.png
[01:07] <Sp0t> and where are Ubuntu quarters?
[01:07] <vadi2> which one is that?
[01:07] <TimothyA> where in the repository is libsdl-ttf1.2-dev ?
[01:07] <ubuntujenkins> TMKCodes: wait a few minutes before you try again I will let you know
[01:07] <TMKCodes> ubuntujenkins: the manual says -> File type HTML document (text/html) is not supported
[01:07] <bentkus> Sp0t: i already asked at the ubuntu live channel stream what timezone to refer to xD
[01:07] <Typos_King> vadi2:    you know you need to restart the browser whenever you dump a new plugin in
[01:07] <xangua> Sp0t: Main island, near england
[01:07] <vadi2> Yeah I did.
[01:07] <Sp0t> ok bentkus
[01:07] <TimothyA> because when I try to get it, it says the package is obsolete :|
[01:08] <bentkus> Sp0t: i guess you will have to wait for at most 24 more hours
[01:08] <Sp0t> thanks Zangua
[01:08] <Sp0t> Xangua*
[01:09] <Sp0t> in London it's 0109H
[01:09] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[01:09] <Sp0t> can't wait to get rid of Windows
[01:09] <bentkus> i think you have to refer to the american time
[01:09] <Dante_J> It's also the 29th already in NZ, all Pacific islands, Australia, Japan, etc.
[01:09] <vadi2> Typos_King: that's why I'm rather confused here. Didn't have issues with this before, but on this new lucid install it's being problematic
[01:09] <Sp0t> really fed up with it now
[01:09] <bentkus> since most of the ubuntu guys are overthere
[01:10] <datacrusher> d/topic
[01:10] <Sp0t> allright, well we just need to have a bit more patience I guess Bentkus
[01:10] <Pici> !party
[01:10] <bentkus> yeah...
[01:10] <bentkus> :D
[01:10] <vadi2> Typos_King: oh, it works! Don't ask me why
[01:10] <bentkus> i actuqally already installed rc
[01:10] <bentkus> i will be upgrading
[01:10] <Dante_J> 10.04 is some of the best work Canonical have done thus far. Please do take the time to Digg this story up, so as to get the word out. Cheers
[01:10] <Dante_J> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Today_is_D_Day_for_Ubuntu_10_04_LTS_Lucid_Lynx
[01:10] <Sp0t> I was thinking of that
[01:10] <Typos_King> vadi2:  in chrome too?
[01:11] <Pici> Dante_J: Please don't spam here, this is a support channel.
[01:11] <ubuntujenkins> TMKCodes: please try now
[01:11] <TMKCodes> k
[01:11] <vadi2> Typos_King: yep. moved it ~/.mozilla/plugins
[01:11] <vadi2> Even though I had it there before, but I think another version
[01:11] <vadi2> Works in both now.
[01:11] <Dante_J> Pici: undrstood
[01:11] <wu_son> I need help please
[01:11] <hiexpo> !ask
[01:12] <Sp0t> but internetspeeds in Thailand are not similar to European or American speeds, meaning that if I donlowd the RC now, I have to upgrade to the final again and it takes quite some time to get all the packages and stuff
[01:12] <spikebike> Sp0t: not really
[01:12] <spikebike> if you install the RC today you don't have to download much (typically) to upgrade to a release
[01:12] <wu_son> I can't play dvd's on my media player?
[01:12] <TMKCodes> Did my network go down or did ubuntu-manual.org go down?
[01:12] <Sp0t> maybe not, as it is RC, maybe just some minor things to upgrade to the final
[01:12] <Typos_King> !details | wu_son
[01:13] <Sp0t> I remember from 9.10 to 10.04 took quite a while last week
[01:13] <Sp0t> so I cancelled
[01:13] <jimtahu> !details jimtahu
[01:13] <jimtahu> !details | jimtahu
[01:13] <bentkus> Sp0t: i dont think that the upgrade will be > 200 mb
[01:13] <powertool08> TMKCodes: look at http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[01:14] <Sp0t> that is not too bad Bentkus
[01:14] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - is all the probs of lucid gonna come here as of tomorrow?
[01:14] <TMKCodes> powertool08: well my network does work :P
[01:14] <bentkus> i mean from 10.04 rc to 10.04
[01:14] <ubuntujenkins> TMKCodes: I think the website went join #ubuntu-manual we are all in there
[01:14] <Sp0t> and it probably looks all the same already
[01:14] <Sp0t> right?
[01:14] <powertool08> TMKCodes: Then I guess it was your network and not ubuntu-manual.org then :)
[01:14] <bentkus> yeah
[01:14] <Sp0t> cool man
[01:15] <bentkus> they already got all this new menu stuff in r
[01:15] <bentkus> rc
[01:15] <Sp0t> aha sounds nice
[01:15] <Sp0t> maybe I still get the RC then
[01:15] <Sp0t> :P
[01:15] <bob_k> Question about 10.04 and Ruby and RubyGems:
[01:15] <bob_k> gem list --local produces an empty list.  sudo gem list --local does not.  Why?
[01:15] <Antiga> Just installed 10.04 RC Have an issue with my fan. It runs at a constant speed regardless of temperature. Running sensors-detect only gives me 3 temp sensors.   /proc/acpi/ibm/fan has nothing in that folder, pwmconfig doesn't return anything.  Really stumped Ideas? Spent hours on this, read lots.
[01:15] <Sp0t> windows is really boring me now
[01:15] <powertool08> TMKCodes: ubuntujenkins The site loads for me.
[01:15] <bentkus> it seems like a lot of people will download 10.04
[01:15] <xangua> !lucid
[01:15] <TMKCodes> ubuntujenkins: the site is frigging slow
[01:16] <Flamey> mosno: skype felt a bit wierd on ubuntu. (I'm running amd64)
[01:16] <K350> howto make GIMP automaticaly opens in maximized window?
[01:16] <TMKCodes> ubuntujenkins: the pdf still not working
[01:16] <Psychoman> Hello all
[01:16] <bentkus> so downloading 10.04 as an iso image in one will be slow
[01:16] <bentkus> though upgrading might be faster
[01:16] <bentkus> dunno
[01:16] <Psychoman> i need a very capital information
[01:16] <ubuntu> can someone guide me to change my partitions sectors manually? i cannot boot into ubuntu and cannot recover grub
[01:16] <hiexpo> not me my 9.10 works just fine if it isn't broke no need to fix it
[01:16] <Psychoman> when will Canonical put the 10 online ?
[01:16] <ubuntujenkins> TMKCodes: we are on it
[01:16] <h00k> !party | Psychoman
[01:16] <jpds> Psychoman: When it's ready.
[01:17] <Sp0t> I can tell you that I have been trying 9.10 since last week (so yes that makes me quite new to linux, thought I played Hardy Heron before) and really have not been using windows at all anymore
[01:17] <Sp0t> can do pretty much all the stuff I use to do in winows
[01:17] <abhilash> is there sun virtualbox for lucid lynx?? i installed beta of lucid, not finding virtualbox......
[01:17] <fuzzybunny69y> hey guys wasn't the new Ubuntu supposed to be released today?
[01:18] <abhilash> can i install virtualbox of karmic only?
[01:18] <lastelement0> hey all, i'm having issues with my internet connection. i never get disconnected, but throughout downloading, it will just stop, and the download stalls. then randomly it will pick back up again. anyone know why?
[01:18] <bentkus> abhilash: there is virtualbox, i installed it today
[01:18] <Pici> abhilash : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[01:18] <hombre> alguien habla español?
[01:18] <powertool08> !es
[01:18] <Sp0t> I asked the same Bunny, but I guess we will have to wait until Ubuntu quarters switch to April 29th
[01:18] <Sp0t> there timezone is not there yet
[01:19] <fuzzybunny69y> oh lol
[01:19] <fuzzybunny69y> ok
[01:19] <fuzzybunny69y> sounds good
[01:19] <Pici> !isitoutyet
[01:19] <bentkus> I mean, they just said 29th april, so the worst that can happen is taht we will have to wait till the last timezone goes to 11:59 29th april
[01:19] <lastelement0> hey all, i'm having issues with my internet connection. i never get disconnected, but throughout downloading, it will just stop, and the download stalls. then randomly it will pick back up again. anyone know why?
[01:20] <fuzzybunny69y> oh it is already the 29th here
[01:20] <Sp0t> ok going to pick up some Thai dely bakery, brb
[01:20] <fuzzybunny69y> in NZ
[01:20] <ubuntu> can someone guide me to change my partitions sectors manually? i cannot boot into ubuntu and cannot recover grub
[01:20] <fuzzybunny69y> but anyway ill check back later
[01:20] <fuzzybunny69y> thanks guys i love you all and your great
[01:20] <fuzzybunny69y> cya
[01:20] <Sp0t> it's 0719h in Thailand fuzzybunny69y
[01:20] <nocleader> lastelement0: 3rd level harmonics? ... joking
[01:21] <bentkus> bunny is already fof
[01:21] <bentkus> LD
[01:21] <Pici> !party
[01:21] <Sp0t> yeah
[01:21] <Sp0t> lol
[01:21] <Sp0t> anyway brb
[01:21] <david__> Anyone know what time the new Ubuntu is being released tomorrow ?
[01:21] <xangua> no
[01:21] <Pici> david__: When its done.
[01:21] <david__> :P
[01:21] <david__> Anyone know what time 10.04 is gonna be done ?
[01:22] <Pici> david__: I just answered you.
[01:22] <Can> i need to manually change my partition table beceause i cannot boot into ubuntu and cannot recover grub
[01:22] <david__> "<Pici> david__: When its done."
[01:22] <Pici> david__: There is not set time for release, when testing is completed it will be released.  Please await the release in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:22] <david__> thx
[01:22] <Sa[i]nT> How many hours to go?
[01:23] <hiexpo> oh geez
[01:23] <lastelement0> omg lol
[01:23] <bentkus> so much hype about this release
[01:23] <h00k> bentkus: yes!
[01:23] <penthief> Can I mount an .iso and play it in VLC?
[01:23] <hiexpo> and its a boat anchor
[01:23]  * powertool08 thinks somebody should announce its coming out tomorrow so all these questions stop. :::)
[01:23] <Pici> Sa[i]nT, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:24] <bentkus> its like an upgrade to wow would be released
[01:24] <bentkus> penthief: you can play iso's just like that
[01:24] <hiexpo> newtoy
[01:24] <bentkus> vlc can open iso's if they have a proper video format
[01:24] <bentkus> like normal dvds in iso can be opened by vlc without mounting or stuff
[01:25] <penthief> cool, I won't bother trying to find a blank dvd then.
[01:25] <Sp0t> pfff why on Earth did the Creator create mosquitos
[01:25] <lastelement0> hey all, i'm having issues with my internet connection. i never get disconnected, but throughout downloading, it will just stop, and the download stalls. then randomly it will pick back up again. anyone know why?
[01:25] <penthief> (not downloaded yet)
[01:26] <powertool08> Sp0t: so spiders could eat.
[01:26] <Claw_> how to automount a softraid start up ? i have created a raid5 (dev/md0) but i always have to start is with the grafical admin tool after login
[01:26] <Sp0t> that's a point
[01:26] <Claw_> how to start it afer boot?
[01:26] <jimtahu> lastelement0: probly a stall on the part of a gate somewhere between you and the download
[01:26] <Sp0t> but there are flies already
[01:26] <justin___> Hey guys, I had to use a live CD to get my Ubuntu working again. How do I copy the video settings to my old partition so I don't have to just reinstall everything?
[01:26] <Antiga> I'm having an Issue with the fan on my laptop W7Sg Asus. It runs at a constant speed (slow) regardless of temp. sensors-detect/ pwmconfig are not doing the trick. Ideas?
[01:26] <Antiga> Nothing in the acpi/fan folder either
[01:26] <powertool08> Sp0t: Who says spiders don't crave variety?
[01:26] <dk> when is ubuntu coming out?
[01:26] <Pici> dk, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:26] <lastelement0> jimtahu: is there a way to find where it is/ resolve it?
[01:27] <Sp0t> don't know powertool08, will ask one
[01:27] <bobanenceto> what channel for ubuntu release party?
[01:27] <Pici> bobanenceto: #ubuntu-release-party
[01:27] <bobanenceto> tnx
[01:27] <Sp0t> in this country I see them eating big butterflies and even small birds
[01:28] <jimtahu> lastelement0: not sure mabe some traceing would help you locate it
[01:28] <Sp0t> I guess those are tastier than mosquitos
[01:28] <aj00200> Typos_King: haha
[01:28] <Alienarch> ok who's excited about tomorros release?
[01:28] <Alienarch> tomorrow*
[01:29] <Pici> !party > Alienarch
[01:29]  * jimtahu thinks Alienarch is joshing
[01:29] <Sp0t> powertool08 another point is, somebody was supposed to become rich over inventing electronic mosquito traps
[01:29] <Pici> Sp0t, powertool08: Can we keep #ubuntu clear for support questions? You can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party .  Thanks :)
[01:30] <Sp0t> ok Pici no problem
[01:30] <Can> how can i restore my partition table with fdisk output?
[01:31] <uLinux> to update to new ubuntu we just update right
[01:31] <xangua> uLinux: yes, from karmic koala or hardy heron
[01:31] <frodo> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 Release Candidate.  Do I need to install the release version when it comes out or can I just do updates to the release candidate to get to the same level as the release?
[01:31] <h00k> !upgrade | uLinux
[01:31] <penthief> hmmm, playing this .iso only shows a single frame in vlc.
[01:31] <xangua> frodo: no, yes
[01:32] <frodo> xangua: thanks
[01:33] <penthief> I got this vlc error: [0x973cc08] main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called
[01:33] <Sp0t> ok going to download the RC, just can't wait anymore
[01:34] <uLinux> it's really easy to upgrade
[01:34] <Can> how can i restore my partition table with fdisk output?
[01:35] <Sp0t> uLinux I read that somewhere
[01:35] <h00k> !upgrade
[01:36] <sasayins> how can I make a memory test in my boot loader
[01:36] <penthief> Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to...
[01:36] <Colin__> Does anyone know what time the new version of Ubuntu will be released?
[01:36] <penthief> Colin__: October
[01:37] <hiexpo> nedd to install mediubuntu repos to install libdvdcss
[01:37] <penthief> hiexpo: ta
[01:37] <h00k> Colin__: nobody knows, you can wait with us in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like
[01:37] <arnold> anytime today no exact time just chill Colin
[01:38] <Colin__> Alright thank you
[01:38] <infomomo> hey guys, what is a good script text editor (i.e: colours, indents, etc...)
[01:38] <Sp0t> maybe have to wait until it's April 29 in Honolulu
[01:38] <Ademan_> has anyone with a Brother laser printer noticed that trying to print certain files (this one is a postscript file) results in a PCL error?
[01:38] <powertool08> infomomo: vi and emacs if you are comfortable with command line programs.
[01:39] <infomomo> powertool08: thx
[01:40] <justin___> Hey guys, I had to use a live CD to get my Ubuntu working again. How do I copy the video settings to my old partition so I don't have to just reinstall everything?
[01:40] <Stavros> hey, is lucid supposed to be released today?
[01:40] <Can> how can i restore my partition table with fdisk output?
[01:40] <Random832> powertool08: vi and emacs are not command line programs. ed is a command line program
[01:41] <electronicsjar> what is the easiest way to set up a Gmail (or an email powered by Google Apps) on Evolution?
[01:41] <monte_> anyone here using the ati proprietary drivers?
[01:41] <Stavros> electronicsjar: imap
[01:41] <powertool08> Random832: how so? It doesn't use a gui. Anything that works over ssh is a cli program imo.
[01:41] <pibarnas> what time will lucid be released? what fuse will be used?
[01:42] <electronicsjar> Stavros: I mean setting up smtp properly on Evolution
[01:42] <aliciapg> is there a program that can take hardsub and convert it to softsub?
[01:42] <Stavros> electronicsjar: oh, i don't use evolution, sorry :/
[01:42] <Random832> powertool08: "command line" implies it doesn't use the full screen
[01:42] <franl> Stavros, http://ubuntu.com/ says "1 day to go", but half the world is already in Thursday, so I don't know when exactly the clock ticks to zero.
[01:42] <Random832> and emacs does have a gui - as do many vi clones
[01:42] <arand> !outyet
[01:43] <powertool08> Random832: As in one command at a time? I'm not familiar with ed. Vi and emacs use the entire shell, but not an entire screen (I'm comparing to a fps game here)
[01:44] <Stavros> franl: ah, but it's going to be released tomorrow at the latest, though?
[01:44] <Random832> powertool08: huh?
[01:44] <Stavros> i was searching for a way to install a lucid package on karmic, but if lucid is being released tomorrow i might not have to, in the end
[01:44] <Random832> i mean it uses the whole terminal - which _can_ be the whole screen
[01:44] <Random832> rather than being something you just type commands into
[01:44] <Random832> like ed, or ex
[01:45] <franl> Stavros, I don't speak for Ubuntu, but the date has been advertised for some time, so I believe it.
[01:45] <powertool08> Random832: Ok, I see what you're saying.
[01:45] <Random832> try hitting "Q" in vi, if you want to try ex
[01:45] <Stavros> franl: i know... should be tomorrow then, thanks!
[01:45] <Random832> it's basically just the : prompt - with :i :c and :a to type in text
[01:45] <electronicsjar> nvm; problem solved by searching for the right keywords on google
[01:45] <Random832> but no full view of the text that you can arrow around in
[01:45] <Random832> _that_ is a command line editor
[01:45] <penthief> No joy playing this iso file from vlc. "[0x8eeeb50] main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called" have install libdvdcss and restricted extras. Fora suggest a codec issue.
[01:46] <monte_> im having issue creating ubuntu/karmic packages for ati binary driver, can anyone please lend some assistance?
[01:47] <powertool08> Random832: Got it.
[01:47] <penthief> Is there a command to install shedloads of codecs? I get a single frame, but how can I work out why it doesn't play?
[01:47] <Can> how can i restore my partition table with fdisk output?
[01:47] <Random832> Can: by remembering what it said and typing them back in exactly how t hey were?
[01:47] <MitchLeBlanc> Hey guys, will I see much difference in 10.04 if I just install the RC tonight instead of waiting?
[01:48] <BlueEagle> can: In general, if fdisk reports the partition table as it should be there is no need to "fix" it.
[01:48] <justin___> Hey guys, I had to use a live CD to get my Ubuntu working again. How do I copy the video settings to my old partition so I don't have to just reinstall everything?
[01:48] <Random832> right but if you've got a good partition table it's not a _bad_ plan to save it somewhere in case something goes wrong later on
[01:48] <PMantis1> Can: You could also use dd.  something like dd if=/dex/sda of=/part_table bs=1 count=512  Then, the reverse later. :)
[01:49] <BlueEagle> justin___: You most likely want /etc/X11/xorg.conf but be sure to back up your existing config.
[01:49] <j3rg> hey anyone here knows about graphic cards
[01:49] <j3rg> ?
[01:49] <PMantis1> Can: Sorry, typo... but if it's safe for you to use it, you should be able to catch the typo, too.
[01:49] <BlueEagle> !anyone > j3rg
[01:49] <justin___> BlueEagle: I copied the ENTIRE X11 folder from etc unto the partition, and it still stalled on booting the X server.
[01:49] <penthief> How can I mount an .iso file? What should I put for the -t switch?
[01:50] <KB1JWQ> apelgate: Should autodetect.  Mount as a loopback device.
[01:50] <BlueEagle> justin___: What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have to say about it?
[01:50] <j3rg> ok
[01:50] <BlueEagle> penthief: mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[01:50] <j3rg> well the question is does the core clock speed multiplied by the stream processors ?
[01:51] <j3rg> to get the total speed of your graphic card
[01:51] <n2diy_> I have an HP Colorado T1000e par. port tape drive, what are the odds an HP-UX driver for it, will work on Ubuntu?
[01:51] <BlueEagle> penthief: I believe that the type is autodetected, but I may be wrong.
[01:51] <penthief> BlueEagle: thanks
[01:51] <BlueEagle> n2diy_: How old is the tape drive?
[01:52] <justin___> BlueEagle: I don't understand. That is a huge file.
[01:52] <j3rg> don't worry i'll keep trying  the google machine
[01:52] <n2diy_> BlueEagle: umm fifteen years, there abouts.
[01:52] <BlueEagle> justin___: Well typically you would want to cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep ^EE
[01:52] <BlueEagle> justin___: That would give you all the errors.
[01:53] <penthief> whats a .VOB file? (I don't know about popular culture)
[01:53] <BlueEagle> n2diy_: Then I would not be suprised if it was supported.
[01:53] <justin___> BlueEagle: cat it on the partitio that fails to boot? Or the live CD I am currently on?
[01:53] <aliciapg> no one knows if such a program exists?
[01:53] <n2diy_> BlueEagle: You mean just plug it into the printer port, and cross my fingers?
[01:53] <BlueEagle> justin___: The partition that is not booting.
[01:53] <phillyES> ...
[01:54] <justin___> BlueEagle: Then what do I do?
[01:54] <jsz> Hi guys, does anyone know when the 10.04 will be available for downloading?
[01:54] <BlueEagle> n2diy_: Well, provided that modules are loaded for the printer port you would most likely see it as an entry in /dev
[01:54] <bentkus> i've got the problem that 10.04 rc banshee doesnt play mp3, does someone know a fix for that?
[01:54] <n2diy_> BlueEagle: Ok, here goes nothing, thanks.\
[01:54] <BlueEagle> justin___: Did you recieve any lines of output from that command?
[01:55] <BlueEagle> !paste | justin___
[01:56] <ariefbayu> hi all
[01:56] <ariefbayu> I have problem
[01:56] <ariefbayu> I right click on panel and hit 'new panel'
[01:56] <BlueEagle> !enter | ariefbayu
[01:57] <od3n_> anyone know why I am getting an error installing ATI drivers
[01:57] <ariefbayu> ok, I'll rewrite
[01:57] <od3n_> wont let me install them
[01:57] <BlueEagle> od3n_: I think it would be useful to anyone whom would be able to help you if you actually posted the error message you are recieving.
[01:57] <justin___> BlueEagle: There are tons of errors.
[01:57] <od3n_> Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[01:57] <od3n_> default:v2:x86_64:lib::none:2.6.32-21-generic; make sure that the version is being
[01:58] <ariefbayu>  I right click on panel and hit 'new panel'. now, there's invisible panel on my right side of the desktop. do you guys know how to remove it?
[01:58] <BlueEagle> justin___: Is there a timestamp with the error messages?
[01:58] <LoneIslander> Right click on it and Delete This Panel@ariefbayu
[01:58] <aj00200> are there any facial recognition programs for ubuntu for autotaging or similar?
[01:58] <justin___> BlueEagle: no
[01:59] <ariefbayu> no, I can't. The panel is invisible
[01:59] <od3n_> any ideas what that would be
[01:59] <ariefbayu> but it does take space. when I maximize window, it doesn't cover that `invisible` area. Leaving some space :(
[02:00] <BCS-Satori> od3n: Are you using the 64bit installer, does that installer support the kernel 2.6.32-21 you are using?
[02:00] <justin___> BlueEagle: I recently switched monitors as well. How do I make Ubuntu reconfigure for my new monitor from the command line?
[02:01] <felon> my apt-get aint getting
[02:01] <od3n_> I am using a 64bit installer
[02:01] <od3n_> on what I thought was 64bit 10.04
[02:01] <aj00200> felon: what are you apt-getting?
[02:01] <felon> " apt-get urbanterror "
[02:01] <OpenBluntSurgry> hey ubuntu nerds, was wondering if you guys think this is a good deal for a laptop running ubuntu - http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=IBMT60-LNX-1B&cat=NBB
[02:01] <BlueEagle> !dpkg-reconfigure
[02:02] <BlueEagle> justin___: I believe the command is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[02:02] <Typos_King> justin___       sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:02] <BlueEagle> justin___: But would you please paste the last flew error lines to paste.ubuntu.com?
[02:02] <ariefbayu> ok, it's weird. after I move one of my applet. My newly added panel automatically shown in which I then be able to right click and delete it.
[02:03] <BlueEagle> felon: Are you doing that as super user? (ie; sudo apt-get urbanterror)
[02:03] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: sounds like they do not support the kernel you are using.  Have you tried using ubuntu's hardware devices to install the driver?
[02:03] <felon> no
[02:03] <TUplink> how can i allow a regular user to be able to shutdown?
[02:04] <BlueEagle> felon: Also I do believe that you need to specify that it should install it so; sudo apt-get install urbanterror
[02:04] <od3n_> no how do I do that
[02:04] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: you can also try to execute the script again and monitor /var/log/messages for additional errors.
[02:04] <hiexpo> ariefbayu, what u just said made no sense to us please explain
[02:05] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: see if it shows up under go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[02:05] <od3n_> it does not
[02:05] <felon> blueeagle
[02:06] <felon> felon@felon-desktop:~$ apt-get urbanterror
[02:06] <felon> E: Invalid operation urbanterror
[02:06] <powertool08> felon: apt-get install
[02:06] <BlueEagle> felon: I repeat: Also I do believe that you need to specify that it should install it so; sudo apt-get install urbanterror
[02:06] <wllkmbll> Can someone tell me how to add the OpenSSL library?
[02:07] <h00k> !party
[02:07] <felon> E: Couldn't find package urbanterror
[02:07] <od3n_> I am look at how to install it and it says a bunch of packages need to be installed
[02:07] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get install openssl
[02:07] <meowbuntu> hi when is the official support for ubuntu 8.0 lts stopping
[02:07] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: my guess is the driver are using does not support the kernel  Check /var/log/messages for more information else you can try installing envy for your driver; else wait till 10.04 is out of RC
[02:07] <od3n_> how to I check to see if they are
[02:07] <powertool08> wllkmbll: sudo apt-get install libssl <hit tab once or twice> pick the newest version.
[02:07] <arand> felon: I think it's available from playdeb
[02:07] <justin___> BlueEagle: Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424327/
[02:07] <justin___> I need help!
[02:08] <hiexpo> !ask
[02:08] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: sudo apt-get update; and sudo apt-get install "name"...using sudo apt-cache search "name" to find the package
[02:08] <felon> arand : playdeb a url ?
[02:08] <pattycakez> hello all, this may seem like a silly question, but I accidentally already downloaded the ubuntu 10.04 by torrent and did not realize that the release was tomorrow, will I still be able to update it tomorrow when the official release comes out?
[02:08] <arand> felon: http://www.playdeb.net
[02:09] <Scunizi> pattycakez: yes
[02:09] <hiexpo> pattycakez, yes
[02:09] <BlueEagle> justin___: Is that after  you ran the reconfigure?
[02:09] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: put the error and packages it is asking for under a paste.ubuntu.com so that I can see
[02:09] <GSF1200S> Does anyone know when 10.04 is going to be released so I can download it and seed it (already have 10.04 installed), and is anyone having problems logging in to the forums?
[02:09] <gaysquirrel> hey ppl
[02:09] <justin___> BlueEagle: no. Running the reconfigure did nothing for me before.
[02:09] <joscht> does someone know how to put starcraft fullscreen i googled and none of the guides worked
[02:09] <justin___> BlueEagle: that is the output from the partition that won't load X.
[02:10] <BCS-Satori> joscht: did you check wine's appdb?
[02:10] <od3n_> Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[02:10] <od3n_> default:v2:x86_64:lib::none:2.6.32-21-generic; make sure that the version is being
[02:10] <od3n_> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[02:10] <od3n_> thats the error
[02:10] <conley__> Why does ##c++ tell me: [404] ##c++ Cannot send to channel Cannot send to channel
[02:10] <pattycakez> thanks scunizi and hiexpo, my friend was asking me why I downloaded the unstable version and I was a little worried that I had made a mistake
[02:10] <od3n_> and here is what it is looking for via packages
[02:10] <joscht> BCS-Satori:yes but it was for like 8.04 and then my x config went crazy and i had to revert
[02:11] <hiexpo> pattycakez, what version are u running now?
[02:11] <pattycakez> will I have to re-download or will I have to download updates via the package mannager
[02:11] <od3n_> gcc,zlib,freetype,fontconfig,XFree6-libs
[02:11] <pattycakez> I am running 10.04
[02:11] <BCS-Satori> conley_: isn't the c++ channel just ##c (no plus plus)
[02:11] <tman_> hey what r the system requirments for ubuntu 10.04?
[02:11] <hiexpo> pattycakez, 9.10 before?
[02:11] <Recur51v3> When (what time Eastern) will the 10.04 ISO's be on BitTorrent?
[02:12] <thelostpatrol7> i can't wait for the final tomorrow
[02:12] <BlueEagle> justin___: You may want to rename the existing xorg.conf and create an empty one in its place and see if the defaults lets you start X.
[02:12] <pattycakez> yes
[02:12] <od3n_> ligcc,libsdc++ and XFree86-Mesa_libGL
[02:12] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: try "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:12] <pattycakez> 9.10 before
[02:12] <conley__> BCS-Satori: I'm not sure. I was on chatzilla, and there was a channel called ##c++ with a lot of users in it
[02:12] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: and try your script again
[02:12] <thelostpatrol7> tman_: what are you running?
[02:12] <hiexpo> pattycakez,  - should have stuck with 9.10
[02:12] <Pici> Recur51v3, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[02:12] <conley__> BCS-Satori: I can see people talking, I just can't send anything
[02:12] <Recur51v3> I have to leave town tomorrow and my Fedora install is bonking so I need an ISO asap
[02:12] <Pici> !register | conley__ you need to register/identify to talk there
[02:13] <_pg_> I lost network manager applet and cant get online! help!
[02:13] <tman_> acer intel pentium dual core w/ 2gb ram
[02:13] <BCS-Satori> conley_: the channel probably requires you to be registered look at the main message when you log into irc.freenode.net and register your username
[02:13] <pattycakez> I know... is this something I can fix, or will I be able to update tomorrow
[02:13] <conley__> Oh, thanks Pici, ubottu, BCS
[02:13] <BlueEagle> !lucid
[02:13] <GSF1200S> Recur51v3: please let me know if you find out- I really want to help by seeding; I already have 10.04 installed..
[02:13] <GSF1200S> Recur51v3, ill do the same
[02:14] <od3n_> same error
[02:14] <ariefbayu> hiexpo:I add new panel by doing this: right click -> new panel. It should add new panel on right side, right? Now, it does. But, that panel is invisible. It just take space without any hard evidence that there is panel, there. To make in visible, I HAVE TO move my applet (specifically: launcher applet, eg: firefox) somewhere (doesn't important, I just need to move it a bit).
[02:14] <meowbuntu> me reverts from ubuntu 9.10 back to ubuntu 8.0 its easier and works better on my os
[02:14] <vernr> april 29 GMT?
[02:14] <BlueEagle> tman_ and recur51v3: You got that I was refering to you with !lucid, right?
[02:14] <duli> how do I run a command that requires root priv at user login?
[02:14] <Pici> vernr, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[02:14] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: which packages are you still missing?
[02:14] <ariefbayu> hiexpo: is that clear?
[02:14] <duli> automatically I mean
[02:14] <tman_> oh sorry i didn't know.
[02:15] <hiexpo> remember everyone if what u are useing is working that ole saying if it isn't broke don'tfix it
[02:15] <vernr> Pici, will flubuntu come with it?
[02:15] <tman_> on running ubuntu 9.10
[02:15] <Pici> vernr: What?
[02:15] <vernr> Pici, the ubuntu basesed on fluxbox
[02:15] <switchgirl> is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet? is it out yet?
[02:15] <_pg_> I lost network manager applet and cant get online! hel
[02:15] <od3n_> not sure
[02:15] <od3n_> how to I check
[02:15] <od3n_> is there a list
[02:15] <Pici> switchgirl: Please don't do that.  If you want to party, go go #ubuntu-release-party
[02:15] <_pg_> I lost network manager applet and cant get online! help!*
[02:16] <od3n_> should I just look in package maneger
[02:16] <felon> arand : can i apt-get install playdeb ?
[02:16] <Pici> vernr: I don't think fluxbuntu is being acitvely delevoped, but I could be wrong.  Its also not an official derivative.
[02:16] <pattycakez> hiexpo, am I still able to get the official release of 10.04 then?  or will I have to download updates via package manager?
[02:16] <Vantrax> switchgirl, love the enthusiasim... but yeah... #ubuntu-release-party is the place
[02:16] <arand> felon: no.
[02:16] <switchgirl> Vantrax,  :)
[02:16] <BCS-Satori> od3n_: you gave me the list before...go to the list you gave me; go to System > Administrator > Synaptic and install all the items in that list which are required
[02:16] <hiexpo> ariefbayu, yes thanx and it is invisable because your prefs just right click on the right side and hit prefs and change it to what ya want
[02:16] <switchgirl> thanks
[02:17] <meowbuntu> for older machines ubuntu should look at keeping ubuntu 8.0 lts supported officially forever
[02:17] <hiexpo> pattycakez, ya ulebe fine
[02:17] <_pg_> I lost network manager applet and cant get online! help!
[02:18] <infomomo> hey guys, the release is tonight at 12:00 ?
[02:18] <sickmooco> fluxbox is pretty useless if you ask me
[02:18] <Pici> infomomo, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[02:18] <stillme> what release?
[02:18] <meowbuntu> 8.0 os more stable on my p4 with 768 mb ram
[02:18] <Pici> !ot
[02:18] <felon> wonder if i shoukld d/l the .deb or configure the repository manually
[02:18] <felon> arand
[02:18] <pattycakez> ok, thanks hiexpo, I'll just get back to my work and wait for the release with everybody else
[02:18] <BCS-Satori> stillme: windows 2010!!! lol
[02:19] <hiexpo> pattycakez,  - best bet
[02:19] <_pg_> I lost network manager applet and cant get online! help!
[02:19] <arand> felon: your choice, I guess.
[02:19] <Grundoko> Hey, can someone help me with a keyboard issue?
[02:19] <tman_> what do u think is less resource hungry xubuntu 9.10 or crunchbang 9.04?
[02:19] <_pg_> Grundoko: !details
[02:20] <DasEi> justin___: which card ?
[02:20] <meowbuntu> !help | Grundoko
[02:20] <jvc> is there a way to configure apt to always install the supporting dbg and dev packages when you install a package?
[02:20] <_pg_> meowbuntu: thanks
[02:20] <Grundoko> Oh sorry, Ok.
[02:20] <hiexpo> _pg_, be patient don't where out your welcome :)
[02:20] <meowbuntu> Grundoko, so just ask away
[02:21] <meowbuntu> !details
[02:21] <meowbuntu> !details | Grundoko
[02:22] <_pg_> hiexpo: :'-(
[02:22] <hiexpo> don't cry it's onlya computer
[02:23] <DasEi> jvc: apt automatically solves depencies, if this was the question
[02:23] <Grundoko> In Windows, when you hold a key when a textbox is selected, the key will begin to repeat. (Key press, release, press, release), but this would only happen when a Textbox is selected. It would not happen in a game. In games, when you press the key, it would just count it as a single key press, until you released it. In Linux, it does the key repeat no matter what. This is an issue because I'm playing a Flash Game "Super Crazy Guitar Maniac
[02:23] <Grundoko> DX2", in which there are long notes. If I hold down the A, S, or D keys to play the long notes, it detects that I play the note, but then instead of detecting me holding it, the game thinks I'm pressing the key rapidly, which causes me to lose my multiplier and points).
[02:23] <cartmanius> hello
[02:23] <hiexpo> !windows
[02:23] <Grundoko> Also, if it's important, I'm using Ubuntu 9.10
[02:24] <felon> arand
[02:24] <cartmanius> ubuntu es the best
[02:24] <hiexpo> !es
[02:24] <felon> after i install the .deb
[02:24] <BCS-Satori> Grundoko: under keyboard options there is an option for repeat characters.
[02:24] <_pg_> I lost network manager applet and cant get online! help!
[02:24] <felon> then
[02:25] <DasEi> _pg_: how do you connect ?
[02:25] <hiexpo> _pg_, ok why did you lose your applet?
[02:25] <_pg_> DasEi: i dont anymore. (ethernet)
[02:25] <DasEi> _pg_: dhcp ?
[02:26] <_pg_> hiexpo: I installed lxde, xfce, and E17. now I have a debian grub background and no network manager and no internet
[02:26] <Grundoko> BCS-Satori: I found the repeat option under keyboard options, but I was hoping there was a way I could do it more like it is on Windows, so that it will repeat when I'm editing text (Holding backspace to delete multiple characters), but does not repeat in Flash games.
[02:26] <_pg_> DasEi: yes
[02:26] <pat5star> _pg_: my suggestion is don't even bother with network manager and apt-get install wicd instead
[02:26] <DasEi> _pg_: and is this machine in reach so you can work on it now ?
[02:26] <_pg_> DasEi: yessir
[02:26] <_pg_> pat5star: why is that better?
[02:26] <DasEi> _pg_: ifconfig returns ?
[02:26] <pat5star> _pg_: way better
[02:26] <_pg_> pat5star: and i cant. (no internet)
[02:26] <tman_> what do u think is less resource hungry xubuntu 9.10 or crunchbang 9.04?
[02:26] <BCS-Satori> Grundoko: not that I am aware of; I have a similar issue when playing World of Warcraft as my character likes to stutter move.  It's either on or off
[02:26] <stillme> how do i make ubuntu reload a driver??
[02:26] <_pg_> tman_: crunchbang
[02:27] <pat5star> _pg_: can you put it on a usb key or something?
[02:27] <arand> tman_: crunch, most likely
[02:27] <stillme> my two wireless cards stopped working
[02:27] <DasEi> tman_: depends what you put on top of it
[02:27] <_pg_> DasEi: umm...eth0 and lo
[02:27] <Grundoko> BCS-Satori: Oh well, it's nice to know I can turn it off anyway. Thanks.
[02:27] <DasEi> _pg_: etho got a valid address ?
[02:27] <DasEi> 0*
[02:28] <tman_> ok thats what i thought i booted it up on my desktop and it was idle using like 90mb of ram on a 512mb machine.
[02:28] <_pg_> DasEi: it has some goofy a-wait i think its an ipv6 address.
[02:28] <message144> Will it be pretty safe to install Lucid on a laptop tomorrow, or should I wait a few months?
[02:29] <_pg_> xxxx::xxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx/xx
[02:29] <BCS-Satori> _pg_: yep thats ipv6
[02:29] <_pg_> BCS-Satori: why would it just do that?
[02:30] <DasEi> tman_: you can use the minimal installer with sth. like icewm as windowmanager or go for lubuntu
[02:30] <DasEi> !minimal
[02:30] <sp0spo> if you have two  files 1 and 2 ,   2 is a hard link to the same location as 1... what if you delete file 1... then does file 2 take up the space or did you just delete both of them kind of?
[02:30] <BCS-Satori> _pg_: when you do an "ifconfig" in terminal you do not show any ipv4 address?
[02:30] <DasEi> _pg_: being connected to router, what does sudo dhclient answers ?
[02:31] <_pg_> BCS-Satori: no, unfortunately
[02:31] <BCS-Satori> _pg_: here is a good article describing how to setup dhcp/static ip via command line.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[02:31] <DasEi> tman: I still run an old lappi /w 256 of ram, works fine for my purposes
[02:32] <joscht> how can i add a new resolution to my xorg, i read that wine need to be able to change the res and when i ran xrandr it said minimun 1900x1200 max 1900x1200 i need 640x480 for Starcraft
[02:32] <pat5star> sp0spo: the hard links are just pointers to the file on disk, if you remove 1 but another remains, nothing changes
[02:32] <_pg_> DasEi: !!! I have an ip now. still no applet though.
[02:32] <franl> message144, "months" would be waiting too long.  2 or 3 days should be enough to reveal if there's anything really unstable with it.
[02:32] <_pg_> DasEi: is that just like ipconfig/renew?
[02:32] <d_xo> how do i route sound from hw:1 to hw:0
[02:33] <message144> franl, ok... what about for a server.. should i wait a few months for that?
[02:33] <DasEi> _pg_: it just listens for a dhcp, want the applet back or just an working conf ?
[02:33] <Traveler> whats the release party chan name?
[02:33] <gaysquirrel> how do i start the wireless manager>
[02:33] <_pg_> DasEi would be outstanding
[02:33] <BCS-Satori> message144: its a 6-month release cycle; for server id "test" for a month before going anything production
[02:33] <franl> message144, no.  Both desktop and server will get shaken down very quickly.
[02:33] <bLiNdRaGe> I"m asking cause all i see on google is a user made how-to, but i'm wondering what i'm in for
[02:33] <_pg_> DasEi: a working applet*
[02:34] <bLiNdRaGe> i work for IT at a college, and we have the usual enterprise setup...active directory, domain, etc
[02:34] <hiexpo> DasEi,  - i think he just deleted the applet and don't know how to connect
[02:34] <bLiNdRaGe> is there a way to get ubuntu to work with the username lookup for the domain?
[02:34] <bLiNdRaGe> or in windows terms..."add it to the domain"
[02:34] <valentinex> is there any way to update from older version to new without new clean installation?
[02:34] <gaysquirrel> !update
[02:34] <pat5star> _pg_: hopefully your new ip address doesn't start with 169
[02:35] <gaysquirrel> how do i restart the network manager
[02:35] <gaysquirrel> ?
[02:35] <gaysquirrel> the little icon
[02:35] <message144> franl, BCS-Satori, I am looking to upgrade my server from 8.04, which so far has been extremely stable.. I am just trying to see if I should upgrade to 10.04 or not.. any suggestions?
[02:35] <BCS-Satori> _pg_: in terminal try "nm-applet" does that load the applet?
[02:35] <Traveler> does anyone know what lucid lynx's release party channel name is?
[02:35] <gaysquirrel> nope
[02:36] <BCS-Satori> message144: truthfully there should really be no issues; id make sure you test thoroughly prior to going production.  I plan on going 10.04 on my work desktop tomorrow.
[02:36] <_pg_> BCS-Satori: no, it says I should try "network-manager-gnome" is that the same thing?
[02:36] <gaysquirrel> request_name(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[02:36] <BCS-Satori> _pg_: yes
[02:36] <Traveler> nuts
[02:36] <joscht> how can i add a new resolution to my xorg, i read that wine need to be able to change the res and when i ran xrandr it said minimun 1900x1200 max 1900x1200 i need 640x480 for Starcraft
[02:36] <gaysquirrel> BCS-Satori, upgrade or clean install?
[02:36] <CkhiKuzad> I want to know, since i have memorized pretty much everything on my GNOME environment, is there a way to install other languages to deter people from using my system, because they think its foreign?
[02:36] <franl> message144, if you can run them both in parallel for a while, you'd be able to determine your comfort level with the new release.  If you can't spare the hardware, maybe use a virtual machine.
[02:36] <BCS-Satori> gaysquirrel: clean
[02:36] <DasEi> _pg_: sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager-gnome && sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[02:36] <valentinex> gaysquirrel: gay :s there is not method written for 10.04
[02:37] <valentinex> i want to get latesht 10 version i am using 9.10
[02:37] <message144> BCS-Satori, for a desktop you think clean install is better way to go than upgrade from 9.10?
[02:37] <_pg_> DasEi: why do I need to purge first?
[02:37] <gaysquirrel> yeah im on the fence about the upgrade
[02:37] <message144> franl, yeah I am on a VPS, so I will just fire up a new VM and see how it goes
[02:37] <gaysquirrel> i dont have a separate /home partition
[02:37] <BCS-Satori> message144: I want to for a fresh start; I had quirky issues I don't want to transfer over
[02:37] <message144> BCS-Satori, yeah my upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 on desktop went terrible, to be honest
[02:37] <gaysquirrel> ive only had 9.10 for under a month
[02:38] <DasEi> _pg_: I don't know whats up there, it will delete it's config, too, then reinstall
[02:38] <hiexpo> DasEi,  - i was gonna say that
[02:38] <_pg_> ok now I have the applet but it isnt working. I will try the purge thing
[02:38] <BCS-Satori> message144: I also do not trust my applications that I installed for source during the upgrade since the repository will not upgrade them
[02:38] <gaysquirrel> so im wary about upgrading when
[02:38] <d_xo> how do i route sound from hw:1 to hw:0
[02:39] <pat5star> _pg_: the new ip address you have, does it start with 169?
[02:39] <felon> when i add a depository do i need to update apt-get to use it or for it to search for the packages
[02:39] <message144> sigh, no Lucid release parties in Los Angeles
[02:39] <_pg_> pat5star: no, not on my LAN anyways
[02:39] <DasEi> _pg_: the more professional way is editing /etc/network/interfaces, it also overrides nw-manager
[02:39] <hololight> felon: if u mean respository, yes
[02:39] <BCS-Satori> _pg_: hes asking if you got a 169.x.x.x because that means dhcp isnt working
[02:40] <pat5star> _pg_: ok, I was just wondering if you got a valid ip address when you ran dhclient
[02:40] <felon> lol.
[02:40] <felon> yes
[02:40] <DasEi> pat5star: has
[02:40] <_pg_> DasEi: sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager-gnome && sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome is just sitting there in terminal. no indication its doing anything
[02:40] <dominicdinada> fixed my problem i think :)
[02:40] <felon> apt-get update ?
[02:40] <hololight> felon: yes
[02:40] <sp0spo> if you have two  files 1 and 2 ,   2 is a hard link to the same location as 1... what if you delete file 1... then does file 2 take up the space or did you just delete both of them kind of?
[02:40] <felon> sudo apt-get update ?
[02:40] <felon> k
[02:40] <DasEi> _pg_: wait a minute, then ctrl-c it, sudo dhclient, then retry
[02:41] <BCS-Satori> _pg_: of course it wont do anything...you have no internet
[02:41] <DasEi> BCS-Satori: he had in between
[02:41] <fabiobik> live cd of 9.10 normal version ???????
[02:41] <BCS-Satori> DasEi: ah didnt see that
[02:41] <fabiobik> were i can get that shit
[02:41] <DasEi> np
[02:41] <hiexpo> !language
[02:41] <CkhiKuzad> I want to know, since i have memorized pretty much everything on my GNOME environment, is there a way to install other languages to deter people from using my system, because they think its foreign?
[02:41] <DasEi> fabiobik: eerm sh.. , desktop is live
[02:41] <IdleOne> fabiim: ubuntu.com and eatch the language please
[02:42] <IdleOne> fabiobik: ^^^
[02:42] <IdleOne> sorry fabiim
[02:42] <DasEi> !karmic | fabiobik
[02:42] <DasEi> !lucid | fabiobik
[02:42] <fabiobik> DasEI NOOOOOO lucid NOOOO
[02:42] <R3cur51v3> LOL pipes in irc commands
[02:43] <R3cur51v3> !karmic | R3cur51v3
[02:43] <felon> arand that is a koo site thx
[02:43] <fabiobik> ive upgraded to that fucking version from 9.10 and guess what? NOT WORK
[02:43] <Aeremis> when do you think the gang at Ubuntu will straighten out the mess that is Canon Printer Installation?
[02:43] <_pg_> im restarting, i think that may have fixed it. damn xfce installing all this crap and then taking nm applet with it when i removed it.
[02:43] <dominicdinada> ya LOL
[02:43] <DasEi> !language | .. jupp
[02:43] <R3cur51v3> !lucid | R3cur51v3
[02:43] <_pg_> Aeremis: canon printer installation sucks on osx man
[02:43] <arand> fabiobik: language, please, liveCD for karmic should be available from ubuntu.com
[02:43] <thelostpatrol7> how so?
[02:44] <thelostpatrol7> _pg_, how so?
[02:44] <Aeremis> I finally got the printer working but the scanner is a no go
[02:44] <_pg_> thelostpatrol7: dont support 10.6, or have to install 300mb worth of utilities to get the driver etc...
[02:44] <thelostpatrol7> apple provides many drivers, surely there's one for whatever model it's needed for
[02:45] <hiexpo> !language | <fabiobik>
 Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:45] <Aeremis> You'd think Mark Shuttleworth would get over to Canon HQ and make a deal for some support
[02:45] <Traveler> Habs won!
[02:45] <joscht> how do i add a new resolution through xrandr?
[02:45] <DasEi> joscht: does your current xorg include any lines ?
[02:45] <joscht> yes
[02:45] <hololight> joscht: this may be out of date but, you would add the lines to xorg.conf
[02:46] <DasEi> _pg_: did the cmd succeed now ?
[02:46] <_pg_> DasEi: thanks for your help! it works again! now I just need to fix grub background. it says debian on it for some reason and its ugly to boot
[02:46] <DasEi> joscht: paste it ?
[02:46] <joscht> ok hold on
[02:46] <_pg_> DasEi: it did. and after a reboot I got it back.
[02:46] <dominicdinada> now how to switch my desktop enviroment on this install
[02:46] <DasEi> !yay | _pg_
[02:46] <joscht> do i have to use pastebin or whatever?
[02:46] <_pg_> DasEi: Always problems when installing additional window managers-always
[02:46] <meowbuntu> hi all when does official support frun out for ubuntu 8.0 lts
[02:47] <_pg_> DasEi: thanks again for all your help
[02:47] <DasEi>  _pg_: got to install the belonging displaymanagers, too
[02:47] <DasEi> kdm, xdm, gdm ..
[02:47] <arand> meowbuntu: It's three years from release if I recall correctly.
[02:47] <_pg_> DasEi: thank god I didnt. they end up fighting each other
[02:47] <joscht> Section "Screen" Identifier	"Default Screen" DefaultDepth	24
[02:47] <joscht> EndSection
[02:47] <joscht> Section "Module" Load	"glx"
[02:47] <joscht> EndSection
[02:47] <joscht> Section "Device" Identifier	"Default Device" Driver	"nvidia" Option	"NoLogo"	"True"
[02:47] <FloodBot4> joscht: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:47] <dominicdinada> why ubuntu 8.0 though
[02:47] <DasEi>  _pg_: no, you decide which one to be used
[02:47] <meowbuntu> arand, and that is
[02:48] <_pg_> DasEi: I know thats the idea, but it has NEVER worked out for me. ever
[02:48] <meowbuntu> arand, i know its 3 yrs for desktop and 5 yes for server
[02:48] <DasEi> joscht : sry for not having told, know how to pastebin ?
[02:48] <joscht> http://paste.ubuntu.com/424339/
[02:48] <DasEi> aah
[02:48] <arand> meowbuntu: 8.04 + 3.0 = 11.04 if my arithmetic serves me right...
[02:49] <hiexpo> meowbuntu,  - how it goes ?
[02:49] <kermit`> Dear all, I'm in Chinese, it is 9:50 April 29th. When should ubuntu 10.04 release? Is it use the American time?
[02:49] <kermit`> In China, sorry.
[02:49] <hiexpo> !cn
[02:49] <kermit`> Oh, thanks.
[02:49] <arand> !isitout | kermit`
[02:49] <arand> kermit`: No fixed time
[02:50] <kermit`> Hmm, I see.
[02:50] <_pg_> kermit: To Be Determined
[02:51] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - what u don't talk to me anymore lol
[02:51] <DasEi> joscht : which nvidia are you using ?
[02:51] <tman_> i like crunchbang i think because it uses openbox
[02:51] <lastelement0> hey all, i'm having issues with my internet connection. i never get disconnected, but throughout downloading, it will just stop, and the download stalls. then randomly it will pick back up again. anyone know why?
[02:51] <joscht> DasEi: what do you mean? which driver??
[02:51] <hiexpo> !crunchbang
[02:51] <IdleOne> hiexpo: haha sorry, just busy keeping an eye out :)
[02:51] <DasEi> joscht : which nvidia card
[02:51] <tman_> but what do u guys/girls think of lubuntu do they have a stable release yet?
[02:51] <joscht> DasEi: 8600GTM
[02:51] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - oh ok
[02:51] <meowbuntu> where are the desktop backgrounds kept in ubuntu
[02:52] <DasEi> tman_: not offically supported, I tested it on a very weak machine, fine as I can see
[02:52] <DasEi> joscht: install the propitary driver and use nvidia settings afterwards
[02:52] <arand> meowbuntu: /usr/share/backgrounds
[02:52] <tman_> ok thats good so u think crunch and lubuntu are even in the way of performence?
[02:53] <joscht> DasEi: i already have the proprietary drivers installed
[02:53] <bentkus> ubottu: steam + ubuntu is like porn
[02:53] <hiexpo> !ot
[02:53] <_pg_> bentkus: lol why is that?
[02:53] <joscht> DasEi: How would i edit the resolution from in there?
[02:54] <DasEi> joscht: sudo nvidia-settings
[02:54] <bentkus> because gaming is really popular on electronics?
[02:54] <tman_> does lubuntu use openbox as its interface i heard that it did.
[02:54] <DasEi> (I assume the 185 from the repos), joscht
[02:54] <bentkus> :dunno, why do a lot of people buy xboxes and ps3
[02:54] <DasEi> tman_: #lubuntu
[02:55] <CkhiKuzad> is it possible to install a second language on ubuntu 9.04?
[02:55] <IdleOne> bentkus: Please stay on topic
[02:55] <joscht> DasEi: yes 185
[02:55] <DasEi> CkhiKuzad: yes
[02:55] <DasEi> joscht: sudo nvidia-settings
[02:55] <bentkus> IdleOne: whats the topic?
[02:55] <lastelement0> hey all, i'm having issues with my internet connection. i never get disconnected, but throughout downloading, it will just stop, and the download stalls. then randomly it will pick back up again. anyone know why?
[02:55] <bentkus> help people with questions?
[02:55] <diabolical> hmm
[02:55] <joscht> DasEi: done already and looking at display configuration
[02:55] <h00k> !topic | bentkus
[02:55] <CkhiKuzad> DasEi, how?
[02:55] <_pg_> bentkus: obviously. lol why is steam on ubuntu better than on windows?
[02:55] <hiexpo> i am not a nice guy and most of you will not like me because i tell it like it is oh so sorry i will cry with you but i will fix your problem if it is legit
[02:56] <IdleOne> bentkus: ubuntu support related questions yes
[02:56] <luig1> Ok, I used WINE to run a game, something I've done before, but every time I try to run this particular game my graphical display screws up and becomes unusable, blinking and such. TTY here is running fine, obviously, but trying Ctrl+Alt+F7 takes my screen to graphical hell. Is there a way to fix that without just restarting? (Restarting does fix the problem every time this happens.)
[02:56] <hiexpo> !wine
[02:56] <bentkus> so some one asked a question and i tried to help him by presenting my opinion
[02:56] <bentkus> :D
[02:56] <luig1> I'm talking about the display issue, not the WINE issue.
[02:57] <joscht> DasEi: are you still here?
[02:57] <luig1> Should I restart the X server or something arcane like that?
[02:57] <robertzaccour> what can i use to check for dead pixels?
[02:57] <gogeta> luig1: it can be wine realted if you dont have that issue with nativ apps
[02:57] <sushiandbeer> /quit
[02:57] <IdleOne> bentkus: if the question is off topic then the answer was also. Please stick to the topic or join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[02:57] <CkhiKuzad> DasEi, how do i install secondary language packs
[02:57] <DasEi> joscht: sure, no quakes here
[02:57] <hiexpo> !rude
[02:57] <luig1> The native apps cause this occasionally as well sometimes, gogeta.
[02:57] <joscht> DasEi: ok any new info to please help?
[02:57] <gogeta> luig1: sound gfx driver realted
[02:58] <trimeta> My Karmic server just got a kernel bump; neither USN nor the changelogs tell me what's changed, though. Do I need to reboot?
[02:58] <IdleOne> trimeta: not unless you are being prompted to
[02:58] <gogeta> luig1: i would make shure you got the latest driver for your card unless it uses oss drivers
[02:59] <luig1> Not sure.
[02:59] <Losha> trimeta: kernel changes usually require a reboot before they take effect. No hurry though...
[02:59] <edwardthefma> yawn
[02:59] <trimeta> IdleOne: Well, landscape is prompting me, because it's a new version of the kernel, but I don't know what changes that will bring about.
[02:59] <gogeta> luig1: dont you know what video card you run
[02:59] <luig1> Umm, it's Intel.
[02:59] <IdleOne> TriMe_: like Losha said you don't need to reboot right away, wait till you can figure out what changes were applied
[02:59] <luig1> G990 or something like that, I haven't had to mess with that in like 2 years.
[02:59] <IdleOne> trimeta: ^^^
[03:00] <gogeta> luig1: then its a built in driver i would turn off effects when gameing that should speed things up and stop that issue
[03:00] <CaptainBriney> Hey I was wondering if anyone knew of a linux program that made an overview software for news, stocks, server status, or anything like that. Something like this: http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/03/the-panic-status-board/
[03:00] <luig1> What I'm really interested in right now is figuring out how to restart the desktop somehow.
[03:00] <trimeta> I'll hold off the reboot until the changelogs propagate, then...honestly, it's not really going to matter, I'll just feel less like I'm leaving my system vulnerable.
[03:00] <mike_> hi
[03:01] <luig1> Like, without shutting down the system.
[03:01] <gogeta> luig1: can you drop to bash
[03:01] <Losha> trimeta: also, if something does go wrong when you boot the new kernel, you can usually easily drop back to the previous kernel version. That's rarely necessary. Most kernel changes are fairly well tested on released systems...
[03:01] <luig1> gogeta: Yeah, I'm there right now.
[03:01] <dave___> I've got an NTFS partition is named "Data" I'd like to rename it "data"... is there a way to do this?
[03:01] <DasEi> CkhiKuzad: they are organized in language-packs, apt-cache search language-pack shows them
[03:01] <mknarr> dave___ try using Gparted to edit
[03:01] <kzman> what is the difference between prerelease version (current release candidate) and the actual release?
[03:01] <jrib> !label | dave___
[03:01] <CkhiKuzad> thanks DasEi
[03:02] <trimeta> Losha: It's more a matter of "I have 41 days of uptime and don't want to reboot unless I need to." ;-)
[03:02] <DasEi> joscht: did you call the settings gui ?
[03:02] <jrib> !lucid | kzman
[03:02] <gogeta> luig1: then sudo service gdm restart
[03:02] <CaptainBriney> Does anyone know of a linux program that works like this: http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/03/the-panic-status-board/
[03:02] <luig1> gogeta: thanks, I'll try that.
[03:02] <gogeta> luig1: that well restart x for you
[03:02] <joscht> DasEi: dont know what you mean by that
[03:02] <LucidGuy> Is there a way to specify a password with an ssh command.  Example  "ssh root@computer ls /"  <--  the system will prompt for password I want to include it within the command.  (I know this is not safe, will input the password from a script)
[03:03] <Losha> trimeta: then unless the kernel change fixes some awful security hole (and usually those are well publicised), you don't need to reboot unless you want to...
[03:03] <cdavis> Can someone suggest a good console based to-do-list for Ubuntu?
[03:03] <joscht> DasEi: i'm in the nvidia gui but what settings?
[03:03] <trimeta> CaptainBriney: The closest thing I can think of is conkey, but I don't know if that's really what you want.
[03:03] <gogeta> cdavis: as in
[03:03] <DasEi> joscht: sudo nvidia-settings
[03:03] <trimeta> *conky
[03:03] <Myrtti> LucidGuy: no. You can try to set up keys to login though
[03:03] <CaptainBriney> trimeta: Yeah, I'm looking for something a little different but I can probably just write a conky config to do this.
[03:03] <kzman> thanks
[03:03] <joscht> DasEi: yes i did
[03:04] <LucidGuy> Myrtti, I would prefer to not set up keys
[03:04] <Myrtti> LucidGuy: then you are out of luck.
[03:04] <DasEi> joscht: xserver display config > resolution
[03:04] <cdavis> gogeta: I use mutt newbeuter, irssi and would like to have a console based program for handling my to-do-list as well
[03:04] <Losha> LucidGuy: ssh goes to some effort to make doing that difficult. Consider setting up keyed authentication instead so you don't need a password. Otherwise, you'll need to use something like 'expect' which is quite a hassle...
[03:04] <DasEi> joscht: choose desired, save to x-config
[03:05] <joscht> DasEi: not understanding this
[03:05] <LucidGuy> Losha, keyed authentication?
[03:05] <ywgx> have anybody?
[03:06] <DasEi> joscht: left side of gui, second entry ..
[03:06] <Losha> LucidGuy: what Myrtti said; using keys to login...
[03:06] <DasEi> joscht: xserver display config > resolution
[03:06] <dave___> how can I change a mount point from /media/Data to /media/data? (I sucessfully changed the label to 'data' with gparted just now - thanks!)
[03:06] <joscht> DasEi: yes but it only has 1 resolution 1900x1200
[03:06] <DasEi> joscht: choose desiredresolution , save to x-configguration file
[03:06] <luig1> gogeta: Well, console 7 is still freaking out, X tried to start in 9 but that one freaked out for a minute and then went blank, and then began its own freakout. I'm here on 1 in irssi.
[03:07] <gogeta> cdavis: humm thats a good one im shure there is such a app
[03:07] <gogeta> luig1: try it with stop them
[03:07] <luig1> Ok
[03:07] <Losha> ywgx: need help?
[03:07] <DasEi> joscht: on a 8600 /w 185 propitary ? monitor not detected properly ?
[03:07] <gogeta> luig1: them start
[03:07] <gogeta> then
[03:07] <Cylon_hunter> very quick question, can I update to 10.04 through update from 9.1 or do I need to download the iso and reinstall?
[03:07] <gogeta> luig1: should close all running x
[03:07] <trimeta> Cylon_hunter: You mean 9.10?
[03:07] <DasEi> Ceylon can update
[03:07] <joscht> DasEi: maybe its been fine since 8.10 though. How would i fix it?
[03:08] <Cylon_hunter> trimeta, yeah I would say so. 9.10 should have been more specific
[03:08] <DasEi> joscht: it's fine with karmic, too, maybe get the 195 from nvidia and install again
[03:08] <trimeta> Cylon_hunter: Since it represents a month, 1 isn't the same as 10. But yea, you can upgrade from Karmic to Lucid.
[03:08] <h00k> !upgrade | Cylon_hunter
[03:08] <rajmahendra_> Good morning
[03:08] <IdleOne> trimeta: look into apt-listchanges
[03:09] <IdleOne> !info apt-listchanges
[03:09] <Cylon_hunter> trimeta, h00k , ubottu thank you all for oyur help. thanks.
[03:09] <joscht> DasEi: so get the proprietary drivers from nvidia.com and see if it recognizes it?
[03:09] <DasEi> joscht : yes;; what does the gui say about your screen(s), is the model correctly shown ?
[03:10] <trimeta> IdleOne: I'll take a look.
[03:10] <joscht> DasEi: it is a laptop and says LPL (DFP-0 on GPU-0)
[03:10] <ywgx> 我仅仅连接了校园网
[03:10] <ywgx>  还没有用帐号登录外网连接
[03:10] <ywgx>  我就能使用IRC
[03:10] <ywgx>  很奇怪！
[03:10] <FloodBot4> ywgx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <Myrtti> ywgx: English please
[03:10] <_pg_> how do i get rythmbox to see my iPod?
[03:11] <gogeta> is that chinise or japnise
[03:11] <gogeta> so we can send him to the right place
[03:11] <hiexpo> !ipod
[03:11] <fvr> #surabaya
[03:11] <Fudge> hi, can you get top or htop to limit results by top 10  processes0
[03:11] <trimeta> gogeta: Looks like Chinese to me.
[03:11] <IdleOne> who was looking for the CLI todo list?
[03:11] <ywgx> I using my school net
[03:11] <DasEi> joscht : ic , well there *should be other resolutions, otherwise for a common laptop can use a generic xorg-section, too
[03:11] <Losha> ywgx: you've been here before. You know better than to do that...
[03:12] <gogeta> oh you speak english nv
[03:12] <DasEi> joscht: a 8600 on a lappi ? nice box
[03:12] <IdleOne> cdavis: apt-cache search tdl
[03:12] <ywgx> what?
[03:12] <joscht> DasEi: yea i got it in 8th grade for my birthday and christmas combined
[03:12] <Losha> ywgx: this is an English only channel...
[03:12] <trimeta> ywgx: Never mind, just ask your question in English, and with minimal use of the Enter key.
[03:12] <rajmahendra_> why _ in my name ?
[03:12] <gogeta> ywgx: you can always go to the chinise room if you speak that bteer
[03:13] <gogeta> better
[03:13] <rajmahendra_> why there is a _ at the end of my name ?
[03:13] <DasEi> !ghost | rajmahendra_
[03:13] <ywgx> I see
[03:13] <gogeta> rajmahendra_: it probly was aruldy taken so it auto renamed you
[03:13] <NRG> Hello all :)
[03:13] <ywgx> my English too bad
[03:13] <DasEi> rajmahendra_: or nick not rstired by you
[03:13] <gogeta> !cn
[03:13] <DasEi> registered* , rajmahendra_
[03:13] <gogeta> ywgx: there you go
[03:14] <trimeta> rajmahendra_: Looks like the one without _ is available; type /nick rajmahendra to change it.
[03:14] <joscht> DasEi: do you know how i can fix my problem?
[03:14] <grunny> hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me. My ubuntu comp just updated and when it restarted it's gone to a GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4 prompt with sh:grub> displaying. How do I get it to load?
[03:14] <Losha> trimeta: how do you tell if a nick is available?
[03:14] <_pg_> ask chanserv
[03:15] <DasEi> joscht: I gtg soon; first try it with a fresh install from nvidia, else ask for s.o. withhardy > displayconfig-gtk to generate a generic xorg for you
[03:15] <rajmahendra_> thank you :)
[03:15] <trimeta> Losha: I did /whois rajmahendra; it told me it couldn't find anyone with that name.
[03:15] <IdleOne> Losha: /msg nickserv info nick
[03:15] <trimeta> If there's a more elaborate method, I didn't use it.
[03:15] <NRG> Will the new version come as an update automatically or will I have to wipe and reload . from scratch ?
[03:15] <Losha> trimeta: IdleOne: thanks guys
[03:15] <joscht> DasEi: thanks very much i must also leave
[03:16] <grunny> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Rescue%20Mode <-- I tried looking here but am not sure of where I find the information to input
[03:16] <Silver_Swords> hi all. what's the usual release time (or most probable) in gmt?
[03:16] <NRG> As in DL the ISO and reformat and reinstall
[03:16] <gogeta> Silver_Swords: oh cheat get the rc and update lol
[03:16] <Myrtti> Silver_Swords: late afternoon
[03:16] <gogeta> or
[03:16] <Silver_Swords> aha!  thnz all   =)
[03:17] <gogeta> Silver_Swords: they always update us beta user a few days before
[03:17] <ChogyDan> grunny: what is your partition layout?
[03:17] <Silver_Swords> thnx   =)
[03:17] <gogeta> Silver_Swords: due to the flood that we all get on relese time
[03:17] <grunny> I installed it along side a windows system
[03:17] <sloopy> in virtual box, how can i get the vbox control panel in full screen mode to display at the top instead of the botton?
[03:18] <NRG> no answer ? :(
[03:18] <grunny> the ls command gives me (loop0) (hd0) (hd0,2) (hd0,1)
[03:18] <gogeta> sloopy: i would assume in youre vm prefs
[03:18] <sloopy> gogeta, yeah i assumed there too but didnt see anything
[03:19] <gogeta> sloopy: in display?
[03:19] <Fudge> how can u list usb devices?
[03:19] <gogeta> Fudge: lspci
[03:19] <gogeta> Fudge: list everything connected
[03:19] <Fudge> oh
[03:19] <ChogyDan> grunny: try ls (hd0,1)
[03:19] <Fudge> my usb mic isnt shown there but it was before running rc1
[03:20] <PMantis> Does anyone know what time the official release happens? I know it's the 29th, but I think it's already the 29th in S Africa. :)
[03:20] <Fudge> doubt its actually a lucid problem though
[03:20] <kzman> Why Ubuntu releases so many versions?
[03:20] <sloopy> gogeta, yeah, and in the vbox control app... even tried moving it with various meta-keys...
[03:20] <_pg_> ok, so ubuntu chose rythmbox for music to be the core app right? why do that when it doesnt support iPods? or was this done one purpose? for legalish reasons? Can anyone enlighten me?
[03:20] <mrbin> hello
[03:20] <gogeta> sloopy: i think google would be your frend there or the vbok irc
[03:20] <gogeta> vbox
[03:20] <Efreak> I'm compiling eggdrop from source on ubuntu-server 9.10, and I'd like to make it a global install. can anyone tell me what values I should use for prefix, eprefix, bindir, sbindir, libexecdir, datadir, sysconfdir, sharedstatedir, libdir, includedir, oldincludedir, infodir, and mandir?
[03:20] <grunny> ChogyDan: ls (hd0,1) returns Partition hd0,1:Filesystem type fat, Label RECOVERY, UUID 1489-5f00
[03:21] <sloopy> gogeta, yeah google didnt help much...
[03:21] <mrbin> I need ome help on activating volume hotkeys in lubuntu for the eeepc 701. anyone can help me?
[03:21] <gogeta> sloopy: they change there ui so often
[03:21] <ChogyDan> grunny: try hd0,2
[03:21] <NRG> you dont have to upgrade you can stick with what ever version you have :)
[03:21] <sloopy> gogeta, hmm #vbox i always looked for a #virtualbox channel :'/
[03:22] <grunny> ChogyDan: ls (hd0,2) returns Partition hd0,2:Filesystem type ntfs, Label ViastaOS, UUID c42a5a872a5a
[03:22] <gogeta> mrbin: they should work out of the box
[03:22] <outer_space> can you make the mouse pointer wrap to the other side when it hits the edge?
[03:22] <ChogyDan> grunny: and hd0,0?
[03:22] <NRG> Anyone here know if the new version will be an auto update. or do you have to DL ISO and re-install from scratch ?
[03:22] <mrbin> gogeta> they all work out of the box, except for the volume up, down and mute.
[03:23] <ChogyDan> grunny: wait, did you install inside windows?  like with wubi?
[03:23] <amereservant> Where do I report a missing driver for a particular scanner?  I don't think filing it under a specific package such as xSane is correct is it?  Is there a library for scanner drivers?
[03:23] <gogeta> mrbin: stramnnge they allwork on my 900a and thats a newer model
[03:23] <grunny> ChogyDan: I selected the option on the install disk that didn't require a partition I believe
[03:23] <rajmahendra> i have installed Ubuntu10.4 what is the new so social application available ?
[03:23] <ChogyDan> grunny: I see
[03:23] <ChogyDan> !wubi | grunny
[03:23] <mrbin> gogeta> mine is a 701 4G
[03:24] <_pg_> ok, so ubuntu chose rythmbox for music to be the core app right? why do that when it doesnt support iPods? or was this done one purpose? for legalish reasons? Can anyone enlighten me?
[03:24] <tmbg> stupid question. how do you force eject the cdrom? k3b crashed and the tray is locked. sudo eject cdrom didn't work out for me.
[03:24] <IdleOne> sudo eject
[03:24] <tmbg> tried that also, no dice
[03:24] <mrbin> gogeta> are you using lubuntu?
[03:25] <felon> ok next time a game freezes how i kill the process
[03:25] <grunny> ChogyDan: I just downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu site, burned it to a disk and installed it alongside windows as the option it gave me
[03:25] <mknarr> take a papre clip and unfold it and stick it in the small hole in the cd rom tray
[03:25] <mknarr> paper*
[03:25] <IdleOne> tmbg: sudo eject --or i'll kill you!
[03:25] <grunny> sorry I'm not that knowledgeable on this :S
[03:25] <tmbg> I was hoping for a way to remove the lock as opposed to just forcing
[03:25] <Losha> amereservant: poke around http://www.sane-project.org/
[03:25] <outer_space> how do you make videos maximize to the right side monitor?
[03:25] <ChogyDan> grunny: yes, if you did it _without_ making a new partition, then you have whats called a wubi install
[03:25] <IdleOne> tmbg: not sure sorry :/
[03:25] <grunny> ah, okay
[03:25] <ChogyDan> grunny: Im not really sure how to recover within a wubi install
[03:26] <ChogyDan> grunny: Window UBuntu Install
[03:26] <gogeta> mrbin: you can try this http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=65606 i dont knoe if it will work in lucid however it did in 9.10
[03:26] <mrbin> gogeta, thank you, I'll try it.
[03:27] <gogeta> mrbin: you dont have to mess with grub or anything
[03:27] <gogeta> mrbin: its a old guide
[03:27] <MrH_> hello :)
[03:27] <_pg_> ok, so ubuntu chose rythmbox for music to be the core app right? why do that when it doesnt support iPods? or was this done one purpose? for legalish reasons? Can anyone enlighten me?
[03:27] <ChogyDan> grunny: try this: ls /boot
[03:27] <grunny> ah, makes sense
[03:27] <mrbin> gogeta, I tried to install the array's customized kernel, but it didn't work.
[03:28] <_Techie_> what time is ubuntu 10.04 ecpected to be released?
[03:28] <needhelp1> hello
[03:28] <gogeta> mrbin: thers also stuff in the repos like eecontrole
[03:28] <Fudge> i can see dmesg saying new full speed usb device attached but its still not in lspci
[03:28] <mknarr> well personally i hate ipods and itunes soo that is my answer lol
[03:28] <tmbg> _Techie_: the 29th, or do you need time of day?
[03:28] <gogeta> mrbin: that should enable all fuctions
[03:28] <needhelp1> is 10.04 official release out yet?
[03:28] <_Techie_> tmbg, time of day
[03:28] <IdleOne> !isitout | needhelp1
[03:29]  * lucid_lynx 
[03:29] <gogeta> mrbin: oh they ave the acpi scripts in the repo now
[03:29] <grunny> ChogyDan: returns a lot, but within it shows the vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic and vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic
[03:29] <MrH_> hehe, i'm converting back to osx86
[03:29] <mrbin> gogeta thank you very much! I'll try it out and look for the acpi stuff in the repos.
[03:29] <suds> Hello
[03:29] <gogeta> mrbin: just look up eee its the first one
[03:29] <ChogyDan> grunny: ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8481299
[03:29] <mknarr> whats up suds
[03:29] <gogeta> mrbin: in sysanptic
[03:30] <MrH_> but i do love ubuntu :)
[03:30] <ChogyDan> grunny: see the 6th comment
[03:30] <iamthemorticide> .
[03:30] <Half-man> hi. is ubuntu 10.04 release yet?
[03:31] <gogeta> Half-man: no you know better lol
[03:31] <Half-man> x)
[03:31] <archa> How do i schedule "turn off" after 15 minutes ???  like a count down timer and then it should turn off my ubuntu
[03:31] <steve-c> where is lucid?
[03:31] <qubz> does anyone know the exact GMT or UTS of release?
[03:31] <kzman> are there a website about eht difference between 9.10 and 10.04?
[03:31] <MrH_> urls ok?
[03:31] <gogeta> archa: well if a laptop in powermangment
[03:31] <arand> !isitout | qubz steve-c Half-man
[03:31] <grunny> ChogyDan: the one by darkod?
[03:31] <ChogyDan> aye
[03:31] <gogeta> archa: but no timer
[03:32] <MrH_> http://www.smallcart.com/extremesm/service-desk/to-quickly-understand-the-problem-ask-the-right-questions/
[03:32] <qubz> ok cheers ;)
[03:32] <archa> gogeta, this is not a laptop
[03:32] <steve-c> thank you
[03:32] <Losha> archa: check out the shutdown command (man shutdown)
[03:33] <suds> I have a ubuntu installed in vmware. I can resolve DNS for some domain such as google.com but can't for ubuntu.com.
[03:33] <suds> Is there any clue on this ?
[03:33] <archa> Losha, i am not a linuxpert... total beginner.. :'(   do you mind tellig me the actual command ?
[03:33] <gogeta> archa: why woud you wanna shutdown with a timer then
[03:33] <archa> gogeta, because i will start transmission
[03:33] <archa> gogeta, and then go out
[03:34] <gogeta> archa: then you whant it to saty on
[03:34] <archa> Losha, isnt there a GUI app for this ? :(
[03:34] <Losha> archa: sudo shutdown -P +15
[03:34] <gogeta> stay
[03:34] <archa> Losha, thanks.
[03:34] <gogeta> archa: are you talking abought the display or the entire amchine
[03:34] <archa> Losha, TURN OFF the entire machine
[03:35] <archa> gogeta, turn off the entire machine
[03:35] <archa> Losha, and if i want to cancel it ?
[03:35] <srini> font size is very big in my login screen..  How to solve this problem???
[03:35] <archa> Losha, just close the terminal window ?
[03:35] <cstcyr> So what time is 10.04 due out?
[03:35] <scriptx> anyone good with X here?  I have an xorg.conf issue..
[03:35] <gogeta> archa: you could probly use the secdule app to tel it to shutdown after 15 minuts or make a sh script
[03:35] <arand> cstcyr: No specified time
[03:35] <Losha> archa: the -P means to power down, the +15 means in 15 minutes. sudo shutdown -c to cancel (I've never tried this)
[03:35] <archa> Losha, closing the terminal window will not harm my computer because a command is running ?
[03:36] <gogeta> archa: no it will end its task
[03:36] <archa> gogeta, ok.
[03:36] <scriptx> this is my existing xorg.conf:  http://pastebin.com/9s7TdYk6  all i want is to be able to output video to the second device (tv) in full screen.  i was advised i need not set this device up as another screen, though I am unfamiliar with how else to set it up.  any ideas?
[03:36] <srini> font size of username and password  is very big in login screen how to solve this problem?
[03:36] <archa> gogeta, do you write sh scripts ?
[03:36] <Losha> archa: you probably need to keep the terminal you're using for the shutdown open...
[03:36] <grunny> ChogyDan: It ran for a bit after getting to the boot step, but then it got to ALERT! /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[03:36] <cstcyr> arand, is there a usual time of day that these things go down or is it just whenever?
[03:36] <gogeta> archa: just like a .bat
[03:36] <archa> gogeta, "schedule app" is this in ubuntu software center
[03:37] <grunny> and now it's at BusyBox v1.13.3
[03:37] <gogeta> archa: should be installed
[03:37] <archa> Losha, thank you for reply me
[03:37] <Losha> archa: a pleasure...
[03:37] <archa> gogeta, is it in Ubu software center ?
[03:37] <gogeta> archa: no idea
[03:38] <gogeta> archa: but that command he gave you should work fine
[03:38] <arand> cstcyr: Don't know really, afternoon/evening UTC is my guess...
[03:38] <gogeta> archa: you can probly make a script out of that
[03:38] <archa> gogeta, ok. i copied the command she gave to a text file.. but you told me some "schedule app"
[03:38] <gogeta> same affect
[03:38] <gogeta> archa: name it something.sh
[03:39] <markj_> what music player do people recommend for ubuntu
[03:39] <gogeta> archa: then sudo chmod +x thefie.sh
[03:39] <cstcyr> I'm kind of over excited here should I install the RC or wait till tomorrow?
[03:39] <markj_> Listen???
[03:39] <markj_> install the RC
[03:39] <archa> gogeta, you mean, i should have to put the cmd in a text file and rename it to name.sh and then run it ?
[03:39] <ChogyDan> grunny: hmmm, can you boot windows?
[03:39] <grunny> yes
[03:39] <gogeta> archa: yes then all it should do is ask for your password and run
[03:39] <archa> gogeta, Losha i found this in ubunt software center "GShutdown"
[03:40] <gogeta> archa: nice
[03:40] <archa> gogeta, Losha and the description says it is used to schedule shutdown or restart
[03:40] <ChogyDan> grunny: have you booted windows since you had this problem?
[03:40] <jsec> Hi all. I'm working on getting Skype up and running under Karmic on a MacBook. I've patched the iSight firmware, so the camera itself works fine, but I have no audio. The Sound Recorder that comes pre-installed works fine, but nothing for Skype. Anyone have any idea why this might be?
[03:40] <gogeta> archa: bascily a gui for what he gave you
[03:40] <iamthemorticide> Thank you everyone!
[03:41] <archa> gogeta, i *think* Losha is "she" .... !!
[03:41] <grunny> ChogyDan: Yes, once as a test.
[03:41] <markj_> If we all fart at the same time it might get released early
[03:41] <Losha> I guess *everything* has a gui nowadays...
[03:41] <_pg_> markj_: good idea
[03:41] <ChogyDan> grunny: try booting windows and running a check disk.  or chkdsk
[03:41] <srini> howto paste the message?
[03:41] <archa> Losha, good for beginners who are converts from windwos
[03:42] <gogeta> Losha: yes they make it to easy dont they
[03:42] <archa> gogeta, Losha gshutdown is looking super with calendar, count down timer... and all :D
[03:42] <_pg_> !paste | srini
[03:42] <Losha> archa: because my name ends in "a" ?
[03:42] <gogeta> archa: well i dont think linux is gonna gain more ground then we are at now
[03:42] <Albi_> where is the new ubuntu, i am pining like crazy!!!
[03:43] <gogeta> archa: the server and low cost device market
[03:43] <archa> Losha, yes, sorry if i am wrong..
[03:43] <markj_> ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:43] <Albi_> ubuntu, both really
[03:43] <Albi_> ubuntu 10.04
[03:44] <markj_> so you use ubuntu over kubuntu
[03:44] <h00k> !support | markj_
[03:44] <srini> _pg_:  while typing username and password the font size is very big in login screen how to solve this
[03:44] <markj_> why?
[03:44] <archa> Losha, sorry :(
[03:44] <encryption> Is anyone on here familiar with the alternative installation whole disk encryption?
[03:44] <h00k> markj_: perhapd head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:44] <Losha> archa: I'd make an ugly female, unless you like them with facial hair...
[03:44] <gogeta> archa: well we coulda made a fancy script showing time left and all lol giving enough time
[03:44] <Albi_> markj_ are you asking me?
[03:45] <markj_> any one
[03:45] <encryption> I've been using it for a while, and for some reason, now when I enter in my password, it says its the wrong password and the disk won't decrypt
[03:45] <gogeta> archa: bash is alot more powerfull then most users relise
[03:45] <h00k> !ot | markj_
[03:45] <steve-c> bash is very powerful
[03:45] <archa> gogeta, but total beginners fear for running scripts, won't they ?? especially after they faced lethal threats with viruses :P ... scripts = executables ?
[03:45] <srini> gogeta: My font size is very big in login screen how to solve??? http://imagebin.org/94900
[03:46] <archa> gogeta, ok.  i need to learn it....
[03:46] <Albi_> markj_: ah, well no i was on kubuntu, but now i'm going back to ubuntu again, infact i kept switching between them, but iim convinced ubuntu is the way to go now
[03:46] <rigel> when does lucid go up for download
[03:46] <gogeta> srini: what the heck is that
[03:46] <h00k> !party | rigel
[03:47] <srini> gogeta : sorry i dont understand
[03:47] <Albi_> markj_: and kde is better than gnome, but gtk+ is better than qt4, so id rather use the better toolkit, and i will heavy modify gnome
[03:47] <gogeta> srini: thats not a ubuntu login screen
[03:47] <markj_> I think i will go ubuntu too
[03:47] <gogeta> srini: looks like kbuntu or xbuntu
[03:47] <srini> gogeta: its a ubuntu login screen... But size is very big...
[03:48] <gogeta> srini: thers never been a blue login screen
[03:48] <Albi_> markj_ yeah go ubuntu, gnome is meant to be easier, thats why its classified as worse, because they took out the changing of advance features, but all advance features can be changed in otehr ways
[03:48] <srini> gogeta: theme is changed here
[03:48] <markj_> Albi_: I can just never get Kde to look right
[03:49] <gogeta> srini: well i cant tell you whats wrong with a non stock them maybe its bad
[03:49] <grunny> ChogyDan: Okay, done.
[03:49] <mdel> gnome is so much nicer than KDE
[03:49] <markj_> i am happy with using gconf
[03:49] <mdel> ive never been a kde fan though
[03:49] <srini> gogeta:  Same problem in all themes
[03:49] <Albi_> markj_ you'll probably find the same thing with gnome, lolol, but it becomes prettier the more you use it
[03:49] <Albi_> mdel
[03:50] <mdel> Albi_: huh?
[03:50] <gogeta> srini: try apperances and fonts
[03:50] <grunny> ChogyDan: Try the same thing again now that I've run chkdsk?
[03:50] <gogeta> srini: if your ruhnning the black and white theme the font sizes are huge
[03:50] <srini> gogeta: i had checked... its good
[03:50] <Albi_> mdel: i think theyre both ugly, kde use to be heading in the right direction but now, you just have to heavily customize whichever one you use and then it will look nice
[03:50] <androide> http://ihatejade.com/?id=mcbzm1cbwkws31hd9o1x9q9xlxigkz
[03:50] <Albi_> mdel and sorry i slipped and hit the enter key waaay too early
[03:50] <markj_> i got them both running in a virtual machine side by side try to decide which to use
[03:51] <gogeta> srini: i dont modfy the themes like that so i cant give your a answer on what got changed
[03:51] <mdel> i just use gnome with the bisigi wildshine theme
[03:51] <gogeta> srini: i always change mine by hand
[03:51] <mdel> looks great, works great
[03:51] <Albi_> markj_ that is highly commical, they both do the same thing, they just use different desktop environments which in turn uses different toolkits
[03:52] <Remmaze> guy, i tried plug in a WD UDF External Harddrive on my ubuntu 9.10, why wont Ubuntu recognized it??
[03:52] <markj_> yes i know, but amarok does not run well on ubuntu and looks very bad, tried everything to make it look good in gtk
[03:52] <srini> gogeta: Its a freshly installed system.. After installation this problem came
[03:52] <gogeta> Remmaze: if its ntfs and flagged dirty ubuntu will not mount it untill chkdsk in windows is ran
[03:53] <candy> at what time ubuntu is releasing today? please let me know the time in gmt. we are having ubuntu release party here :)
[03:53] <LtHummus> candy: it's out when it's out
[03:53] <arand> candy: No fixed time
[03:53] <Remmaze> how do i run the chkdsk?
[03:53] <Albi_> markj_ that's because you need to install all the depended on qt4 libraries, rather than just the few that amarok wants, it is possibly to run gtk+ apps in qt4 and vice versa and have them look properly with no problems
[03:53] <upul`> Hi, Releasing on april 29th, is it 00:00 UTC. just wanted to know because i held up installing linux for a couple of weeks because of new release and planning for a download time
[03:54] <hexdump_> Remmaze:  for linux it's fsck
[03:54] <candy> LtHummus, :(
[03:54] <gogeta> Remmaze: boot windows with that hdd plugged in it should see its dirty and run it
[03:54] <Albi_> Remmaze: chkdsk is windoze
[03:54] <Remmaze> just type fsck in terminal...?
[03:54] <candy> arand, we need iso to burn cds :( , LtHummus
[03:54] <markj_> I have installed qt4-config, systemsettings what else i need
[03:54] <LtHummus> candy: there's no set date...it's out when it's out.  it'll be sometime 4/29 but that's all we know
[03:55] <Luyza> ^QUESTION^  Hi, I love nautilus Spacial view, in particular, the little drop down menu in the statusbar, with the folder tree, BUT I hate that it opens a new window everytime you click a folder. Is it possible to keep the view like that, but prevent it from opening windows?
[03:55] <candy> joint #ubuntu-np
[03:55] <candy> LtHummus, hmm ok
[03:55] <bobbyyu> I was using the Python command line provided by Ubuntu and can't seem to be able to use an interpreter.
[03:55] <candy> LtHummus, how to go to other channel? whats the command??
[03:55] <Albi_> markj_ as far as i can remember theres like 120mb odd worth of downloads, but not only do you need the config you need some themes as well, gnome and kde havnt yet come on an agreeance for compatible themes with each other
[03:55] <candy> join #ubuntu-np
[03:55] <arand> candy: Well you could always download the daily build from yesterday, and when it is released, compare the checksums, is they match, you don't need to reburn ;)
[03:55] <bobbyyu> I can't compile and run my .py test program.
[03:56] <candy> arand, ok let me check that too
[03:56] <morphix> I cannot find any distinguishable model number or otherwise printed on the motherboard nor via dmidecode, what is the easiest way in determining if a USB port is USB 1.1 or USB 2.0?
[03:56] <_pg_> does anyone have a Asus USB N13 wifi dongle working on ubuntu?
[03:56] <candy> help
[03:56] <markj_> to much extra just for one app
[03:56] <candy> #help
[03:56] <Albi_> markj_ one alternative, so that you get the best of both worlds, is to download the ubuntu and kubuntu alternate discs, install ubuntu, and then in ubuntu install the kubuntu-desktop, and then it will have everything you need for running gtk+ apps and everything you need for qt4 apps
[03:57] <frankie_> hello my fellow ubunters
[03:57] <ubuntu8-0LTS> is thete a support chanel for ubuntu 8.04 lts
[03:57] <Albi_> markj_ its not just for one app, it will be for any qt4 app that you will use
[03:57] <ubuntu8-0LTS> we
[03:57] <ArtVandalae> ubuntu8-0LTS, this channel should be fine
[03:57] <ubuntu8-0LTS> ArtVandalae: ok but is theere a more direct chanel
[03:58] <Remmaze> what will happen after i do that FSCK?
[03:58] <Myrtti> ubuntu8-0LTS: this is it
[03:58] <Losha> Remmaze: what kind of filesystem is on the drive?
[03:58] <bobbyyu> I realise I should use #python, but since Python is provided by Ubuntu, I'd thought I'd ask here. :)
[03:59] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Myrtti: ok
[03:59] <tman_> can on run ubuntu 10.04 fine on a acer intel pentium dual core 2.00gh processer with 2.00gb of ram?
[03:59] <Remmaze> udf
[03:59] <grunny> I ran chkdsk before trying to reboot through sh:grub> and it still says ALERT! /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk does not exist
[03:59] <dk> tman_, of course!!
[03:59] <ubuntu8-0LTS> i cant install unetbootin for ubuntu 8.04lts
[03:59] <tman_> ok just wondering
[03:59] <ArtVandalae> tman_, well it depends more on your WiFi/graphics card, but yes, you shouldn't have any problems
[03:59] <Remmaze> the drive dont appear on my desktop..its a Western Digital External Drive
[03:59] <Flynsarmy> How can i add php to my user group so it can chmod stuff without getting permission denied?
[03:59] <ubuntu8-0LTS> this ppa does not work gives errors https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa
[03:59] <k0sh> how many hours till official relaese of 10.4 ?
[03:59] <Losha> Remmaze: open a terminal, and type sudo fdisk -l and then paste the result to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[03:59] <tman_> ok thank you a lot.
[04:00] <upul`> oops, my question was answered before i typed the question, this channel is so fast :-)
[04:00] <frankie_> I have a broken touchpad, but in order to make it useable i have to use the synaptics device settings and disable buttons and set up the bottom left and right of the touchpad for mouseclicks, is this possible in ubuntu?
[04:00] <Remmaze> ok will try that...
[04:00] <ArtVandalae> k0sh, #ubuntu-release-party might be more appropriate... but I imagine no more than 24 hours
[04:00] <grunny> ChogyDan: Any ideas?
[04:00] <Flannel> k0sh: The release will happen sometime during the hours of April 29th, somewhere on the earth.  Join #ubuntu-release-party to discuss it.
[04:00] <ubuntu8-0LTS> any ideas
[04:01] <Remmaze> i got content on that drive, will it do sumting bad to it, if i do that fdisk -l?
[04:01] <ArtVandalae> Remixman, unplug the drive, then plug it back in, and then open up a terminal and type "dmesg", see if it mentions anywhere about detecting a USB/HDD
[04:01] <Luyza> ^QUESTION^  Hi, I love nautilus Spacial view, in particular, the little drop down menu in the statusbar, with the folder tree, BUT I hate that it opens a new window everytime you click a folder. Is it possible to keep the view like that, but prevent it from opening windows?
[04:02] <trainwreck> hello
[04:02] <Losha> Remmaze: no, sudo fdisk -l will not disturb any content. It will just tell us about the drive and filesystem...
[04:02] <kzman> if i wanna share files in a LAN, what is the best way to do that?
[04:02] <Remmaze> ok
[04:02] <trainwreck> hey anyone know what time the new 10.04 release will go live on the ftp's or bittorent? do they go off new york time for 12:00?
[04:02] <dagon_> kzman: samba or nfs
[04:03] <dagon_> trainwreck: no one knows
[04:03] <kzman> dagon_, and ftp?
[04:03] <fanani> he friend , i'm a new user of ubuntu
[04:03] <ubuntu8-0LTS> the ppa for ubuntu8.04 from here https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa is giving error ..."the public key is not available"
[04:03] <dagon_> kzman: sure
[04:03] <trainwreck> hmm
[04:03] <ArtVandalae> Luyza, you can change it to non-spacial view, but I don't know if that's what you want. In Nautilus: Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> "Always open in browser windows"
[04:03] <ArtVandalae> Luyza, actually that may not be it, two seconds
[04:03] <fanani> please help me , how to setup workggroup on samba
[04:03] <trainwreck> samba is lame
[04:04] <Luyza> ArtVandalae,  yeah, then it's so clunky and fat, :P the spacial view is very "streamlined". Oh well. apt--get install Thunar
[04:04] <trainwreck> i like salsa
[04:04] <trainwreck> or the macarena
[04:04] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: why not use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ instead. Easier I think...
[04:04] <ubuntu8-0LTS> hello any ideas
[04:04] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Losha: ok thanks
[04:05] <sp0spo> how do i find all files that are less than 1 kb ?
[04:05] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone know where to get the .iso for 10.04?  The stable version that is?
[04:05] <ubuntu8-0LTS> lol Losha https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa <- is a link from the site you sent
[04:05] <Flannel> FeasibilityStudy: It's not released yet
[04:06] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Losha: its the ubuntu link from there
[04:06] <frankie_> I have a broken touchpad, but in order to make it useable i have to use the synaptics device settings and disable buttons and set up the bottom left and right of the touchpad for mouseclicks, is this possible in ubuntu?
[04:06] <FeasibilityStudy> Flannel: I know its not "officially released" but I figured it might be out there somewhere
[04:06] <clausen> sp0spo, du | sort -n | grep "^1 ".... or something like that would work...
[04:06] <PMantis> FeasibilityStudy: Only the RC
[04:06] <Flannel> FeasibilityStudy: No.  And if anyone links to something claiming to be the final, we'll ban them.
[04:06] <HerbMonk> flannel: so 9.04 is still the latest stable version
[04:06] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: in that case, click on the 'Technical details about this PPA' link for key information
[04:06] <kzman> on ubuntu if i wanna copy a folder with same name of another folder, and ubuntu ask me if i want to replace it ,or ignore, it ignores all, and if i wanna paste the new files into the folder to copy, what do i have to do, to avoid that?
[04:06] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Losha: so https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa is teh poage i need to sort out
[04:06] <Flannel> HerbMonk: 9.10 is the latest stable version
[04:07] <45PAAG0VM> just wondering if 10.04 will upgrade to the LTS release .
[04:07] <HerbMonk> Flannel: k thanks bro
[04:07] <45PAAG0VM> ??
[04:07] <PMantis> FeasibilityStudy: It *will* be at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[04:07] <ArtVandalae> 45PAAG0VM, 10.04 will be LTS
[04:07] <danny__> hi all
[04:07] <ubuntu8-0LTS> i did i added teh key to software sorces but it has that error i mentioned ^
[04:07] <Flannel> 45PAAG0VM: 10.04 will be an LTS release, 8.04 will upgrade straight to 10.04
[04:07] <ubuntu8-0LTS> ^ Losha
[04:07] <trainwreck> anyone think there will be any diffrences between the release candidate and the final release
[04:07] <grunny> can anyone help with booting ubuntu on wubi from GNU GRUB?
[04:07] <danny__> can anybody who is familiar with MPD help me with an error i found in my log file?
[04:07] <ArtVandalae> danny__, just ask your question
[04:07] <Flannel> Guys, the 10.04 discussions should be in #ubuntu+1 if they're support related, and #ubuntu-release-party if they're just chit chat, thanks.
[04:07] <danny__> i found this error in my MPD log file; Apr 28 22:25 : can't find alsa mixer control "PCM"
[04:08] <45PAAG0VM> away
[04:08] <clausen> sp0spo, or find -size -2k
[04:08] <45PAAG0VM> hmm
[04:08] <clausen> grunny, maybe
[04:08] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: ok, wanna wait while I try it on my 8.04 system?
[04:08] <clausen> grunny, what's your problem?
[04:09] <ubuntu8-0LTS> losh really you are so nice
[04:09] <danny__> ArtVandalae,  i found this error in my MPD log file; Apr 28 22:25 : can't find alsa mixer control "PCM". P.S. awesome Seinfeld reference
[04:09] <ubuntu8-0LTS> thanks Losha you are a really kind gurl
[04:10] <45PAAG0VM> man
[04:10] <grunny> clausen: My ubuntu comp just updated and when it restarted it's gone to a GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4 prompt with sh:grub> displaying. I tried following the instructions at comment #6 here http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8481299 but that gave an ALERT! /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk does not exist. Dropping to shell! and goes to a BusyBox v1.13.3
[04:10] <ArtVandalae> danny__, :)... On pure speculation, I'd guess that error has something to do with PulseAudio acting as a "fake" ALSA. If you kill pulseaudio, and try that again. See if you still get the error.
[04:10] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: why does everyone think I'm a gurl tonight? I haven't trimmed my moustache or anything...
[04:11] <grunny> clausen: I tried running chkdsk on the windows part and trying again, but it gave the same result
[04:11] <danny__> ArtVandalae, ok, brb
[04:11] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Losha: is a girls name that is why
[04:11] <aunn> is this wubi http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/wubi.exe for the 10.04 release right ? not 10.04 beta.
[04:11] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Losha: in english it is
[04:11] <Flannel> arquebus: 10.04 isn't out yet.
[04:11] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: I didn't think it was anyone's name. I've never met another Losha...
[04:11] <clausen> grunny, hmmm, that's odd
[04:12] <aunn> well, the schedule is april 29, isn't it?
[04:12] <Alex-Musicman> seems that in few hours may be avaliable...
[04:12] <Flannel> aunn: 10.04 isn't out yet, so no, that's not final.  And yes.
[04:12] <clausen> grunny, can we talk in private?  it's hard to chat in this noisy channel!
[04:12] <grunny> clausen: yes
[04:12] <Flannel> aunn, Alex-Musicman: go to #ubuntu-release-party to pass the time.  It will be released sometime within the next 32 hours.
[04:12] <aunn> well, it might be april 29 in japan or something
[04:13] <nil_> Danny_:Hi.Do you have problem with your sound system?
[04:13] <fauzy> so 10.04 is going LTS as it runs now?
[04:13] <Flannel> fauzy: 10.04 will be LTS once it's released.
[04:14] <fauzy> i see
[04:14] <aunn> Flannel ok, thx.
[04:14] <fauzy> anyone using Unison? looking for some feed back
[04:15] <danny__> ArtVandalae, http://uppix.net/d/c/f/d7d124209ea7ddb70b51878206815.png
[04:16] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: just run apt-get install unetbootin and when it asks to install without verification, just say yes. It will work...
[04:16] <fauzy> Need some help in regards to Unison over internet - intranet in Ubuntu <>Fedora
[04:17] <cofly> somebody in ,somebody out!
[04:17] <fauzy> lol
[04:17] <nil_> Losha: you have to install the pubkeys to your repository.
[04:17] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Losha: https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa
[04:17] <fauzy> are you guys all volunteers?
[04:17] <Losha> nil_: well, you don't *have* to, you can run it without...
[04:17] <StormMage> anyone know when 10.04 will be out? at midnight or just sometime on the 29th?
[04:17] <Luyza> Yes fauzy
[04:17] <dagon_> nil_: import, not install
[04:17] <Raptors> error: binding to port 113: bind(): Permission denied
[04:17] <Raptors> Help?
[04:17] <nil_> This the cause of the warnings.
[04:17] <ubuntu8-0LTS> oops Losha E: Couldn't find package unetbootin
[04:17] <fauzy> thats really really  cool
[04:17] <Juzzy> StormMage: it's pretty much out now
[04:18] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: no, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu hardy main from further down the page
[04:18] <Raptors> I'm switching from oidentd to ident2
[04:18] <ubuntu8-0LTS> i need th=o add teh ppa i think
[04:18] <fauzy> =-O
[04:18] <Raptors> How do I get rid of the error?
[04:18] <Raptors> I purged oidentd but its still there
[04:18] <StormMage> it is juzzy?
[04:18] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: the url in the technical details appears to be a typo...
[04:18] <ubuntu8-0LTS> ok thanks
[04:18] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Losha: thanks mate
[04:18] <Luyza> =^..^=  Question =^..^=   VLC notification icon disapeared (I'm in Karmic) anyone know how to get it back?   And,  in Nautilus, is there  a way to remove the arrows left of the icons, in List View ?  Thanks in advance =^..^=
[04:18] <fauzy> fauzy will do
[04:18] <Raptors> error: binding to port 113: bind(): Permission denied
[04:18] <Juzzy> StormMage: the repo is constantly updated, the "final version" will only be a small few packages different
[04:18] <Raptors> HELP!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <StormMage> mm
[04:19] <cofly> yes?
[04:19] <Losha> ubuntu8-0LTS: So would Losh be a boy's name?
[04:19] <nil_> dagon it is in the repo too.You can install it .I did it.
[04:19] <StormMage> any idea how long until the netbook remix or at the same time?
[04:19] <fillayy> Is it worth it to try that 9.10 update yet?
[04:19] <Juzzy> i've been mirroring lucid since sunday, they are only changing 30-80 packahes/day at this point
[04:19] <Juzzy> out of tousands
[04:19] <Juzzy> thousands too
[04:19] <fillayy> Is it worth it to try that 9.10 update yet?
[04:19] <Flannel> Juzzy: Please take it elsewhere, this channel isn't for lucid
[04:20] <fauzy> ok I am looking to use Unison for notebook / desktop sync. Is there any better application
[04:20] <cofly> karmid
[04:20] <Juzzy> Flannel: the hell it isnt.
[04:20] <Myrtti> Juzzy: rly.
[04:20] <anyoneofus> anyone downloaded ubuntu 10.04 final?
[04:20] <fvr> server irc.plasa.com
[04:20] <Juzzy> its ubuntu channel, lucid is ubuntu
[04:20] <Myrtti> anyoneofus: it's not out yet
[04:20] <Flannel> Juzzy: It's not.  This channel is for Ubuntu support, Lucid isn't officially supported yet.
[04:20] <cofly> no
[04:20] <oarion7> what time is it going to be released, anybody know?
[04:20] <Juzzy> Flannel: go eat a dick elsewhere :/
[04:20] <MrPockets> SO i jsut noticed that ubuntu's "clicks" when  you click on a button or something, are all in stereo.
[04:20] <cofly> 4.29
[04:20] <MrPockets> which is cool as heck
[04:20] <Flannel> oarion7: Sometime within the next 32 hours.
[04:21] <cofly> yes
[04:21] <oarion7> Flannel, okay, thanks. wasnt sure if there was a "planned" release time.
[04:21] <Flannel> oarion7: It will be announced when it's released, don't worry.
[04:21] <ishijoe> go to #ubuntu+1 for lucid talk
[04:21] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: anyway there is no other ppa i can find except fir the typo one
[04:21] <fillayy> What is the best program to use if you want to download music with ubuntu?
[04:21] <Flannel> oarion7: Nope, just "sometime" on the 29th (in some timezone)
[04:21] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: anyway there is no other ppa i can find except fir the typo one
[04:21] <sp0spo> when windows does a scan and fix disk... it makes a found.000 directory... how do i turn that directory and files back to what it used to be?
[04:21] <Guest18864> I don't have any sound. speakers are powered on, alsa is topped out, and the Volume shows it's full. What's wrong?
[04:21] <dagon_> fillayy: rhyhtmbox and ubuntu music store? :P
[04:21] <cofly> timezone is a big problem
[04:21] <anyoneofus> in my local, everyone can to download ubuntu final at 15pm
[04:21] <fillayy> dagon, is it free? :)
[04:21] <Xial> . . .
[04:21] <Loshki> ubuntu8-0LTS: if you use the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu hardy main then do apt-get update then apt-get install unetbootin it works. I just ran it...
[04:21] <ubuntu8-0LTS> !sound | Guest18864
[04:22] <Raptors> error: binding to port 113: bind(): Permission denied
[04:22] <jzacsh_> !out
[04:22] <dagon_> fillayy: don't think so, nothing is
[04:22] <anyoneofus> !hi
[04:22] <dagon_> fillayy: the program's free but the music probably costs
[04:22] <cofly> music!
[04:22] <Xial> hm, doesn't rhythmbox also pull music from jamendo?
[04:22] <cofly> cost?
[04:22] <justinjstark> Xial, Yes, there is a plugin for that
[04:23] <Xial> if so, then some of the music is free. some of the music (ie: what comes from magnatune) has a cost.
[04:23] <Loshki> Raptors: which app are you trying to run?
[04:23] <nil_> Hey you !Kaffeine is still better way to listen music.
[04:23] <Raptors> ident2
[04:23] <Raptors> Loshki, Ident 2
[04:23] <Raptors> Loshki, Ident2
[04:23] <fillayy> Is it possible to get a virus on Ubuntu? What kind of virus software could I use?
[04:23] <Loshki> Raptors: you need to run it under sudo...
[04:23] <_Techie_> il est encore sorti
[04:23] <nil_> You can add musics from another partition too.
[04:24] <Raptors> error: binding to port 113: bind(): Address already in use
[04:24] <wolfie1> hello all
[04:24] <Raptors> Loshki, error: binding to port 113: bind(): Address already in use
[04:24] <fauzy> no one can help with a sync setup?
[04:24] <cofly> hello
[04:24] <Loshki> Raptors: do you already have an ident running?
[04:24] <totic_> Hi I am having a problem doing apt-get remove here it is http://pastebin.org/191193
[04:24] <Raptors> no
[04:24] <fauzy> i have never done it.
[04:24] <totic_> does anybody know why this happens?
[04:24] <jzacsh> what's the channel that's for waiting on the new release?
[04:24] <Raptors> I had oidentd running but I stopped it and removed it
[04:24] <Raptors> :/
[04:24] <LucidOne> !lucid
[04:25] <jzacsh> LucidOne: thanks
[04:25] <wolfie1> in terminal when I press twice times tab, I get a list of all the available commands, I need to dump that info into a .txt file, how do I do that?? o.O
[04:25] <Loshki> Raptors: what does netstat -an | egrep 113 say about anyone using port 113...
[04:25] <fauzy> jzacsh: #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <fauzy> i think
[04:25] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: http://imagebin.ca/view/SsQek0qs.html <-here is teh error i am talking about when i add it
[04:25] <wolfie1> I know I will get all the commands and applications I have, and thats what I need
[04:25] <Raptors> nothing
[04:25] <Havocc> I cannot get my microphone to work with Ubuntu 9.10 and the Audigy 2.  Any ideas?
[04:26] <Raptors> it found my samba server but that 11387
[04:26] <Loshki> ubuntu8-0LTS: as previously discussed, the error is actually only a warning, and you should be able to proceed by just ignoring it...
[04:26] <nil_> Raptors :do you have installed Jack
[04:26] <nil_> ?
[04:26] <Raptors> no
[04:26] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: ok then
[04:26] <Raptors> nil_, no
[04:26] <wolfie1> how can I make a file.txt with a list of all the commands and programs available in my pc? like when in terminal I press twice times "tab" ??? PLEASE HELP
[04:27] <LucidOne> !clone | wolfie1
[04:27] <nil_> Raptors:So install it .Mabe solve your problem
[04:27] <Loshki> Raptors: very odd. I would reboot, and then try running identd again...
[04:28] <wolfie1> yey!, that sounds better, because I really dont need the commands, but the programs I have installed
[04:28] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: thanks so much its ben awhile i jusr reverted back to ubuntu 8.04 as its more stable on my comp than 9.10
[04:28] <Raptors> alright I'll restart my comp
[04:28] <Twiple> Hey, my GRUB loader suddenly decided to do away with the whole "list of boot options" thing and now just pops up as a command prompt
[04:28] <Xial> eh, i'd htop before considering a reboot.
[04:28] <Loshki> ubuntu8-0LTS: got it working ?
[04:28] <Twiple> what happened?
[04:28] <Havocc> Do I need to remove pulseaudio to get my microphone to work with 9.10 and the Audigy2
[04:28] <Remmaze> after i did the fdisk -l this appear : Disk /dev/sdc: 499.4 GB, 499405291520 bytes
[04:28] <Remmaze> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60715 cylinders
[04:28] <Remmaze> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:28] <Remmaze> Disk identifier: 0xf6002492
[04:28] <Remmaze>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:28] <ubuntu8-0LTS> yes its installed thanks
[04:28] <wolfie1> thankies obuttu x3
[04:28] <ThePulp> hi
[04:28] <nil_> Raptors : Do you took a look to Kmix configuration?
[04:29] <Loshki> Remmaze: please paste the entire output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and tell us the url, ok?
[04:29] <Remmaze> ok
[04:29] <ThePulp> i want to install unbuntu
[04:29] <dagon_> go ahead :)
[04:29] <ThePulp> but i can't
[04:29] <bryanr> hi
[04:29] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: your a pal i am reckomending you for a ubuntu award
[04:29] <bryanr> i came for the thirty minute countdown before the official release
[04:29] <ant1mazr> ThePulp: go fir it :)
[04:29] <ant1mazr> Thepulp: why that ?
[04:29] <Loshki> ubuntu8-0LTS: all in a day's work. Cheers...
[04:30] <Havocc> ??
[04:30] <Flannel> bryanr: That doesn't exist, but #ubuntu-release-party is where you want to be
[04:30] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: remember part of linux is also helping people to help themselves
[04:30] <Twiple> nobody knows...
[04:30] <ubuntu8-0LTS> Loshki: and your a legend at it
[04:30] <Havocc> My Microphone will not work with 9.10 and using Audigy 2. How can I fix this?
[04:30] <Remmaze> this is the link http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/J4bnBqdT
[04:30] <ThePulp> i try to load unbuntu by virtual Box
[04:31] <impr0t> hey does anyone know where i can track down some nvidia drivers for ubuntu ppc 10.04
[04:31] <crimsun> Havocc: make sure you've unmuted and raised the desired mixer controls
[04:31] <Havocc> crimsun: I have done all of those.
[04:31] <impr0t> experimental or not. just something better than the standard nv :( it's killing me
[04:31] <Loshki> Remmaze: ok, which one of those is your new drive. Is it the 500GB one on /dev/sdc ?
[04:31] <ThePulp> but this program tell me that error
[04:31] <Remmaze> yup the 500
[04:32] <ThePulp>  kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init
[04:32] <Twiple> ok, I'm just going to redo it again.
[04:32] <Loshki> Remmaze: ok, it looks like it's brand new i.e. it has no partitions or filesystem. Did you say there was data on it?
[04:32] <crimsun> Havocc: which? I don't know which you've done...
[04:32] <Remmaze> yup, according to my MAC friend...
[04:33] <ant1mazr> ThePulp: what is your host OS ?
[04:33] <Remmaze> he used it for his Mac Book Pro
[04:33] <Havocc> crimsun: I have done all that you said. it was never muted to start. the mixer controls of the input/mic are turned up. I get no feedback on the input level
[04:33] <crimsun> Havocc: please pastebin 'amixer' output
[04:34] <anthony> hi to all of you
[04:34] <Loshki> Remmaze: well your system can't see that data. As far as its concerned, the disk is blank. If you want the data, you'd better take it back to your pal and get him to access it...
[04:34] <britany_okla> would someone recommend a channel for video editing
[04:34] <frankie_> hello
[04:34] <impr0t> hey does anyone know where i can track down some nvidia drivers for ubuntu ppc 10.04?
[04:34] <Remmaze> the thing is, we want to see if this UDF works on Linux and Mac
[04:35] <Havocc> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/qFjki9vy
[04:35] <Loshki> britany_okla: I found http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/irc-channel-t335861.html via google. It mentions some irc channels...
[04:35] <sam204475> Hey ~ Anyone here?
[04:35] <frankie_> i am on ubuntu live cd and i am trying to configure my touchpad. i went to ubuntu software center and tried to install the touchpad thing there but it wont let me
[04:36] <Guest5166> i have a problem how do you play video .mov format i have a problem on its audio if i play it on movie player
[04:36] <britany_okla> can i msg u Loshki
[04:37] <Loshki> Remmaze: then I would say the answer is clearly "no". In order to access the disk on linux you'd need to partition and format it, which would destroy any existing data...
[04:37] <sam204475> guest5166 ~  did u install the restricted packages?
[04:37] <ThePulp> i don't understand
[04:37] <Remmaze> ok Loshki...
[04:37] <Remmaze> thanks for yur help....
[04:37] <britany_okla> Guest5166 Gixine
[04:37] <Loshki> britany_okla: yes...
[04:37] <Guest5166> yes i already did it
[04:37] <crimsun> Havocc: 'Mic Boost (+20dB)' is muted; 'Analog Capture Boost' is muted; 'Analog Mix' capture is set to 0%
[04:37] <ThePulp> i don't know waht is my OS host
[04:37] <Remmaze> really appreciate it...
[04:37] <rosco_y> does anyone know why my system sounds are playing, but my multimedia apps are silent?
[04:37] <sam204475> Guest5166  ok   what file is .mov anyway?
[04:37] <Guest5166> what is Gixine
[04:37] <frankie_> it says "not available in the current data" it doesn't really help me very much
[04:38] <Loshki> Remmaze: try googling for linux and mac filesystems, maybe there's something you can use which works for both
[04:38] <Remmaze> will do that
[04:38] <Havocc> crimsun: I am obviously not seeing where to unmute those.  Where do I fix that?
[04:38] <Guest5166> its play on quick time
[04:38] <crimsun> Havocc: amixer, alsamixer, etc.
[04:39] <rosco_y> is there a gui that let's you adjust the volumes for different processes (i.e., firefox)
[04:39] <sam204475> guest5166  did u get GSstreamer ?
[04:39] <crimsun> rosco_y: sure, pavucontrol
[04:40] <Guest5166> yes i already install it
[04:40] <rosco_y> crimsun, thanks!
[04:40] <sam204475> what are you using to play?
[04:40] <trainwreck> yo
[04:40] <Guest5166> can i just sent you the file
[04:40] <Havocc> crimsun: how do I unmute with alsamixer? i cannot seem to change them when pressing up and down
[04:40] <trainwreck> anyone know when the new release will go live
[04:40] <sam204475> no its ok  i can download one and try
[04:40] <crimsun> Havocc: press 'm'
[04:40] <trainwreck> is it midnite?
[04:41] <trainwreck> new york time maybe?
[04:41] <crimsun> Havocc: note, use the capture view for 'Analog Mix'
[04:41] <xisxon> hi
[04:41] <xisxon> i need help
[04:41] <xisxon> my ubuntu box is always crash
[04:41] <xisxon> can someone help me? Please?
[04:42] <greezmunkey> xisxon: on it's own, or are you doing something to cause it?
[04:42] <frankie_> ugh this is so frustrating thought this was suppose to be easy to use
[04:42] <trainwreck> xisxon, whats crashing?
[04:42] <trainwreck> is it the graphical interface? or gui / dektop
[04:42] <trainwreck> or is linux freezing
[04:43] <greezmunkey> trainwreck: maybe it crashed again??
[04:43] <sam204475> Frankie_ hehe  you should have seen me when i started using linux.  i pulled my hair out and didnt eat for days.
[04:43] <sam204475> it just takes time.
[04:43] <sam204475> :D
[04:43] <ThePulp> what is that??
[04:43] <ThePulp>  kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init
[04:44] <frankie_> sam204475 well i just want to install something and it taunts me with a preview picture and everything and tells me it doesnt owkr!
[04:44] <impr0t> in the start linux scared the crap out of me.
[04:44] <Havocc> crimsun: how do I do that exactly? I want to make sure I am understanding what you are asking
[04:44] <trainwreck> hmmmm
[04:44] <trainwreck> so just waiting for this damn new release to go live
[04:44] <greezmunkey> ThePulp: explained: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/explained-kernel-panic-not-syncing-attempted-to-kill-init-353920/
[04:44] <Guest5166> this is the error if i try to play the video audio/x-gst-fourcc-Qclp decoder
[04:45] <crimsun> Havocc: press F4
[04:45] <sam204475> what you want to install frankie_????
[04:45] <impr0t> did you get the restricted drivers package?
[04:45] <Flannel> trainwreck: #ubuntu-release-party is the place to go to wait
[04:45] <crimsun> Havocc: in alsamixer, that is
[04:45] <Havocc> crimsun: I greatly appreciate your help.  what does hitting f4 do exactly?
[04:46] <crimsun> Havocc: switches to the Capture perspective.
[04:46] <sam204475> Guest5166 ~   try this channel  i dont know maybe someone here can help you better   #twil
[04:46] <crimsun> Havocc: the screen for alsamixer should mention that...
[04:47] <Havocc> crimsun: do I need to do anything after that for it to take effect?
[04:47] <crimsun> Havocc: not really, just make sure you've changed all the options.
[04:49] <Havocc> crimsun: Thanks buddy.  That did the trick. many thanks.
[04:49] <crimsun> Havocc: np
[04:49] <StevenPearce88> Does anyone know if there is blackberry support for ubuntu?
[04:50] <Out_Cold> StevenPearce88, yes and no..
[04:50] <Out_Cold> StevenPearce88, you can use your SD card and sync, but there are work arounds
[04:51] <StevenPearce88> what about being able to upgrade the OS?
[04:51] <Out_Cold> StevenPearce88, i think that's winblows specific..
[04:52] <jbpinson> Does anyone know when the Ubuntu 10.04  final release torrent will be available?
[04:52] <h00k> StevenPearce88: negative :(
[04:52] <jpds> !isitout | jbpinson
[04:52] <Out_Cold> jbpinson, 29th or something
[04:52] <jbpinson> Thanks guys.
[04:52] <johnjohn101> that's now right?
[04:52] <Out_Cold> tomorrow for me
[04:53] <StevenPearce88> me sad :-(
[04:53] <Flannel> johnjohn101: Sometime within the next 32 hours.  Join #ubuntu-release-party to pass the time
[04:53] <johnjohn101> what ever happened to the back up software that was supposed to be in lucid?
[04:53] <StevenPearce88> I guess I will just keep using Windows 7 *sigh*
[04:53] <archa> StevenPearce88, ?
[04:54] <archa> StevenPearce88, ubuntu 10.4 RC > windows 7 :-)
[04:54] <Out_Cold> StevenPearce88, just use a win comp to upgrade?
[04:54] <Havocc> crimsun:  Haha.  Now I have no audio output.  Love it. :/
[04:54] <gbear14275> anyone know if brainstorm is a dead project?
[04:54] <tmukmkd> so release already or not? officially
[04:54] <Flannel> gbear14275: I don't believe it is dead.
[04:55] <Flannel> tmukmkd: No.
[04:55] <gbear14275> Flannel: I don't see it advertised anywhere... or am I missing something?
[04:55] <tmukmkd> flannel thanks for da info :D keep updating guyz :p
[04:55] <StevenPearce88> yes but what blackberry support
[04:56] <Flannel> gbear14275: I don't know where it would be advertised, sorry.
[04:56] <StevenPearce88> i love ubuntu but I wont be able to upgrade my BB in ubuntu only sync
[04:56] <Out_Cold> StevenPearce88, i don't own a blackberry but you can transfer data to a storage card and sync contacts.. I think that's it
[04:56] <r2q2> What time does lucid get released
[04:56] <Flannel> r2q2: #ubuntu-release-party
[04:57] <StevenPearce88> does anyone think I can emulate desktop manager use win or wine doors or crossover?
[04:57] <BiggFREE> Hi
[04:57] <StevenPearce88> one more hour hopefully
[04:58] <StevenPearce88> it's almost 11 here only like 3 minutes away, then 12 AM the 29th lets hope it comes
[04:58] <sam204475> Anyone here having problems with aMSN and webcamming? ????? ~~~~~ ??????
[04:58] <Loshki> gbear14275: brainstorm looks current, stuff is getting proposed and even implemented...
[04:58] <sam204475> YAY  10.04 ~
[04:58] <anylake> test
[04:58] <sam204475> Is anyone having a party for 10.04?
[04:59] <Twiple> I managed to get past the grub problem
[04:59] <Twiple> but it didn't do what I wanted, how do I get out of initramfs
[04:59] <tman_> almost midnight does release at midnight. 10 sec
[04:59] <rajmahendra> hi i want to join Ubuntu Member. how to join ?
[05:00] <StevenPearce88> well actually I am on OS 5.0 for BB and OS 6.0 will be out sometime this year I heard but I may not be able to run it, dont know, because this OS 6.0 is still very new
[05:00] <sam204475> I feel really bad.  i had an amazing installation ~   everything works.  better than it did in windows :D  love ubuntu   ~  hated it the first couple of weeks.  :D    love it now.
[05:00] <StevenPearce88> as in still in the thinking and building processs lots of time to go
[05:00] <Flannel> !member > rajmahendra
[05:00] <Black_Phantom> When is Lucid getting released ?
[05:00] <Flannel> Black_Phantom: #ubuntu-release-party
[05:00] <sam204475> TODAY!
[05:00] <sam204475> 10.04 comes TODAY!
[05:00] <sam204475> YAAAAYY!!!!
[05:00] <rajmahendra> thank you
[05:00] <FloodBot4> sam204475: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <Twiple> #ubuntu-release-party
[05:01] <Flannel> Guys, take Lucid relase chatter to #ubuntu-release-party
[05:01] <Twiple> so can you help me?
[05:01] <tomatoes7> when today?
[05:01] <Flannel> tomatoes7: Within the next 32 hours.
[05:01] <tman_> im having a one man party someone say hey. and then say hoo.
[05:02] <tomatoes7> midnight in new york or los angeles?
[05:02] <Flannel> tomatoes7, tman_: take it to #ubuntu-release-party
[05:02] <Twiple> :(
[05:02] <sam204475> tomatoes i downloaded it already
[05:02] <vernr> Hi. I would just like to know how to setup my system so that traffic only goes through my VPN (incoming and outgoing) whether I'm using PPTP or OpenVPN. I'm using a VPN service that charges a subscription fee and I don't want any traffic not going through the VPN for privacy reasons. I also want to be able to remote port forward a few ports. I'm using ubuntu 9.10.
[05:02] <sam204475> upgrade actually.
[05:02] <patriick> wheres the update
[05:03] <sam204475> update-manager -d
[05:03] <Twiple> #ubuntu-release-party
[05:03] <Flannel> sam204475: Please don't suggest that here.
[05:03] <sam204475> Flannel   why not?
[05:03] <Twiple> because it's off topic and you're derailing help requests
[05:03] <Flannel> sam204475: Because this channel is for supported versions of Ubuntu, Lucid isn't official yet, and as such, isn't supported.
[05:04] <sam204475> ahhh ~
[05:04] <sam204475> ok  well then ill go. :D
[05:04] <Twiple> if you do have an issue with the RC
[05:04] <danny__> do i need to download the official release disc, even though i have the pre-released version of lucid installed?
[05:04] <Twiple> there's a channel for that too
[05:04] <Twiple> #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <vernr> Hi. I would just like to know how to setup my system so that traffic only goes through my VPN (incoming and outgoing) whether I'm using PPTP or OpenVPN. I'm using a VPN service that charges a subscription fee and I don't want any traffic not going through the VPN for privacy reasons. I also want to be able to remote port forward a few ports. I'm using ubuntu 9.10.
[05:04] <dellph> is 10.04 out yet?
[05:04] <Twiple> ...
[05:04] <Flannel> dellph: No.  #ubuntu-releaes-party
[05:04] <Twiple> #ubuntu-release-party
[05:05] <Twiple> this is hopeless...
[05:05] <Flannel> Twiple: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[05:05] <dellph> ok thanks peps! :)
[05:05] <Twiple> that's not what I'm here for
[05:05] <dellph> i want to party!!
[05:05] <Twiple> how do I get out of initramfs
[05:06] <ps3inator> hey everyone. im sure this has been asked a billion times, but i was just wondering around what time do the final releases usually come out? i want to know how i should plan my day tomorrow
[05:06] <Twiple> #ubuntu-release-party
[05:06] <vernr> whats the big deal anyway?
[05:06] <ps3inator> does anyone know what time 10.04 final should be released?
[05:06] <Twiple> ps3inator: #ubuntu-release-party
[05:07] <Havocc> crimsun: I have no audio at all now. Something broke when getting the microphone to work
[05:07] <ps3inator> thanks twiple
[05:07] <crimsun> Havocc: pastebin your amixer
[05:07] <Flannel> Twiple: Please stop parroting that channel, thanks
[05:07] <danny__> i found this error in my MPD log file; Apr 28 22:25 : can't find alsa mixer control "PCM". any ideas anyone?
[05:07] <Twiple> so but they keep going in here talking about 10.4 being released
[05:07] <Loshki> vernr: I can't help you much on the details, but I can tell you that the routing of traffic is done via the routing tables, and by suitably manipulating them, you can make all or part of your traffic go via the vpn...
[05:07] <Twiple> I was just trying to point them in the right direction, sorry
[05:08] <Flannel> Twiple: And you're adding to the noise with the channel names
[05:08] <Flannel> Twiple: We appreciate it, but it's not necessary :)
[05:08] <Sayag_Samuel> ps3inator: in other word they don't
[05:08] <vernr> Loshki, where can one learn how to do this?
[05:08] <Havocc> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/T8uwPueL
[05:09] <Twiple> canI do anything from initramfs or am I stuck?
[05:10] <DShepherd> how can i determine what video drive i am using
[05:10] <vernr> Loshki, where can one learn how to do this?
[05:10] <Loshki> vernr: not sure, but try googling "ubuntu routing vpn" and see what turns up...
[05:10] <Xcell> you folks are scaring me, my sys works 2 good, dammit man.
[05:10] <greezmunkey> !topic
[05:10] <LucidOne> #ubuntu-release-party All the cool kids are doing it :)
[05:11] <Xcell> i just loaded the new pae and didnt have to redo my 195.36 graphics, whats up with that  ?
[05:12] <Raptors> still doesn't work :(
[05:12] <Raptors> still getting that error
[05:12] <Raptors> error: binding to port 113: bind(): Address already in use
[05:12] <Twiple> oh wait
[05:12] <Twiple> sorry
[05:12] <Twiple> it's called busybox
[05:13] <Loshki> Raptors: and netstat -an | egrep 113 still shows nothing on port 113?
[05:13] <Xcell> man, i hope canonical puts mac in its place, if this keeps up, it will, bwahaha, like mcdonalds, (im lovin it).
[05:13] <Twiple> what does busybox do and why is everything so screwed?
[05:13] <Xcell> chow
[05:14] <jimtahu> Twiple: busybox it a mini-replacement for a bunch of /bin/stuff
[05:15] <Twiple> is there any channel for WUBI support?
[05:15] <Raptors> Loshki, bash@bash-desktop:~$ netstat -an | egrep 113tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:113             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[05:15] <Raptors> tcp        0      0 192.168.1.101:42936     72.14.204.113:80        ESTABLISHED
[05:15] <Raptors> unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     11322    /tmp/orbit-bash/linc-88d-0-52eeb2485e689
[05:15] <Raptors> unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     11372    /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[05:15] <Raptors> unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     11371
[05:15] <FloodBot4> Raptors: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <Raptors> unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     11330    @/tmp/dbus-dEkSoqVnxX
[05:15] <gnucodemonkey> When will 10.04 be available exactly?
[05:15] <federico> High I am trying to configure my ATI card, but I aticonfig doesn't seem to work
[05:16] <impr0t> they have rc out already
[05:16] <federico> ubuntu doesnt use X11 anymore right?
[05:16] <jimtahu> federico: what dose it complain about?
[05:16] <Loshki> Raptors: please use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com for the output and send us the url
[05:16] <Flannel> gnucodemonkey: Sometime within the next 32 hours, but we can't be more specific than that.
[05:16] <Raptors> Loshki, http://pastebin.com/6HiLWskX
[05:16] <federico>  aticonfig
[05:16] <federico> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[05:16] <Flannel> gnucodemonkey: It's offtopic fo rthis channel, but you can join #ubuntu-release-party to bide your time while it releases
[05:16] <gnucodemonkey> Flannel, Hey, thank yo very much.
[05:16] <federico> jimtahu, aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[05:17] <Twiple> Flannel, is there a channel for WUBI issues or is it handled here?
[05:17] <jimtahu> That means it dosn't realize what your card is
[05:17] <CaptainLucid> thats here Twiple
[05:17] <Twiple> ok
[05:17] <Loshki> Raptors: that first line says there's something already listening on port 113: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:113             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[05:17] <pjoshi> where can i download ip_gre.ko module
[05:17] <Twiple> My WUBI is dumping me into Text parser GRUB
[05:17] <Havocc> crimsun: not finding anything?
[05:17] <Loshki> Raptors: next, run lsof -i4tcp and pastebin the output
[05:17] <Raptors> How do I close it?
[05:17] <jimtahu> federico: try lspci and see if your cardis in the list
[05:18] <maximus_> hey ppl its 29th at my place wats the utc time of lucid release?
[05:18] <Twiple> I have no options, it's just this broken GRUB
[05:18] <CaptainLucid> maximus_: UTC 1200 +- 12 hours
[05:18] <CaptainLucid> xD
[05:18] <federico> jimtahu, yes it does appear  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200]
[05:18] <Raptors> Loshki, http://pastebin.com/Wbe0HcPV
[05:18] <Twiple> with no options, I don't know what to do
[05:18] <maximus_> @CaptainLucid thanks, cant wait any more :D
[05:18] <jimtahu> federico: maby it dosn't suport your card?
[05:19] <CaptainLucid> maximus_: note the +- 12 hours, it could be either way.  /#ubuntu-release-party to wait for it there
[05:19] <CaptainLucid> i'm off, needz sleeps
[05:19] <CaptainLucid> bai!
[05:19] <Twiple> I found out this way to boot up ubuntu, but it just brings me to busybox
[05:19] <federico> jimtahu, no it isn't that , it used to work in my previous ubuntu isntalls
[05:19] <maximus_> @ ye got it
[05:19] <Twiple> is there any way to start ubuntu from busybox?
[05:19] <jimtahu> federico: dose the hw drives thingy list it?
[05:20] <Loshki> Raptors: and also lsof -i4tcp:113
[05:20] <Raptors> nothing
[05:20] <Raptors> no output
[05:20] <Flamey> Twiple: there was this laptop once I tried to boot from live usb. It dropped me into busybox, I removed and reinserted the usb stick and exited the shell and it procedded to finish booting.
[05:21] <Raptors> bash@bash-desktop:~$ lsof -i4tcp:113 bash@bash-desktop:~$
[05:21] <Loshki> Raptors: ok, we'll have to do it the hard way. pastebin the output of 'ps ax' and lets see what's running....
[05:21] <j2bv16> Hola
[05:21] <Raptors> lol hard way
[05:21] <federico> jimtahu, it used to be supported and the way to configure it years ago when i got this laptop
[05:21] <federico> the thing is I gave up on linux in a laptop a while a got
[05:21] <j2bv16> Hey is 29
[05:21] <Raptors> bash@bash-desktop:~$ ps ax
[05:21] <Raptors>   PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND
[05:21] <Raptors>     1 ?        Ss     0:00 /sbin/init
[05:21] <Raptors>     2 ?        S      0:00 [kthreadd]
[05:21] <Raptors>     3 ?        S      0:00 [migration/0]
[05:21] <FloodBot4> Raptors: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <federico> and wanted to see if I could revive it
[05:22] <rootlinuxusr> Is it possible to have the window snap to half the screen similar to win7?
[05:22] <jimtahu> federico: I hate it when things change like this
[05:22] <Loshki> Raptors: pastebin, if you please...
[05:22] <federico> c'est la vie
[05:22] <federico> for some reason the fucker would die whenever I watched movies after a random amount of time
[05:22] <federico> without telling me anything
[05:22] <federico> just caput
[05:22] <FloodBot4> federico: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <federico> and thats it
[05:23] <Flannel> federico: Please mind your language, thanks.
[05:23] <LucidOne> !ohmy | federico
[05:23] <jimtahu> jimtahu: it may be config'd already?
[05:23] <jimtahu> federico: it may be config'd already?
[05:23] <Flamey> Loshki: sometimes lsof -itcp:{port<1024} doesn't show anything
[05:24] <Loshki> Flamey: yeah, looks like this is one of those occasions...
[05:24] <Flamey> Loshki: it works with sudo though
[05:24] <Raptors> Loshki, sorry it didn't copy it
[05:24] <Raptors> http://pastebin.com/nzJBKdY2
[05:24] <federico> jimtahu, maybe, I just updated to 10.02 and it just died without a warning while watching hulu
[05:24] <federico> so I am trying to get drivers from scratch
[05:24] <ManOnFire> when will ubuntu 10.04 will be released for download..
[05:24] <cielo> new ubuntu user, lost sound card on my kids computer - ubuntu 10, just dissapeard! any help?
[05:24] <Raptors> !ubuntu 10.04
[05:24] <jimtahu> federico: sorry I can't help more, I going to go bed.
[05:24] <Flannel> !lucid
[05:25] <subone> im trying to resize my windows ntfs partition from gparted on ubuntu live cd or from ubuntu installed on hdd, but it says the CD is mounted on /cdrom on the ntfs drive...
[05:26] <Twiple> it says panic occured, switching back to text console
[05:26] <Twiple> before the busybox
[05:26] <cielo> typed playdo you think I should go back to version 9 of ubuntu ?
[05:26] <Loshki> Raptors: please also try Flamey's suggestion of running: sudo lsof -i4tcp:113
[05:27] <Raptors> inetd   1373 root    5u  IPv4   6205      0t0  TCP *:auth (LISTEN)
[05:27] <Raptors> hmmmm\
[05:27] <Twiple> ok, I have a feeling that if I screw around with this anymore, my WUBI installation is going to corrupt my Windows, I'm pulling the plug on this
[05:27] <sam204475> twiple.  bye
[05:27] <sam204475> :D
[05:27] <Loshki> Raptors: ok, that's a big clue. What do you have configured under inetd?
[05:28] <Raptors> nothing...
[05:28] <Raptors> should I just remove identd?
[05:28] <Loshki> Raptors: not sure I believe you :-)
[05:28] <Raptors> I don't use identd
[05:28] <Twiple> So, what can I download do access my WUBI files? I have important documents I can't afford to lose
[05:29] <Raptors> I used oidentd before
[05:29] <Twiple> or do
[05:29] <Raptors> but I removed that.
[05:29] <Raptors> hmm, that's running from root
[05:29] <Raptors> so I probably should remove it
[05:29] <Loshki> Raptors: some irc servers require identd. But if you can access everything without it, its ok to dispense with it.
[05:30] <Raptors> i want to use ident2
[05:30] <Raptors> that's inetd not identd
[05:30] <Raptors> WTH is inetd?
[05:30] <Loshki> Raptors: you are going to have to have a closer look at inetd then, because it looks like it's listening on port 113.
[05:31] <Twiple> I understand that this problem is a bug in WUBI itself
[05:31] <Twiple> I'll try setting up a legit dual boot
[05:31] <Loshki> Raptors: inetd is a program which listens on various ports and when packets come in on those ports, it starts the appropriate daemon. Not to be confused with identd...
[05:32] <Loshki> Twiple: make a backup of your windows system first, and that way, if it all goes terribly wrong, you'll be able to recover
[05:32] <Raptors> So I can't just close it? :(
[05:32] <Loshki> Raptors: close which? inetd? identd?
[05:33] <Twiple> I'm on an EeePC, can't I just back up all my files and use the system restore partition?
[05:33] <JarrettV> would like to change my dual boot 9.10 to virtual machine 10.04, any tips?
[05:33] <Twiple> virtualbox
[05:33] <Raptors> inetd
[05:33] <Raptors> I dont't have any ident running, I'm trying to start ident2 but its not working
[05:34] <j2bv16> Is Ubuntu 10.04 aout?
[05:34] <Raptors> !lucid
[05:34] <JarrettV> Twiple, ubuntu 9.10 was unstable on virtualbox
[05:34] <Loshki> Raptors: that depends on whether you are relying on inetd to start applications for you. If not, it's ok to stop it.
[05:34] <j2bv16> o i need to wait?
[05:35] <JarrettV> it is april 29th somewhere
[05:35] <hexdump_> Hey all.
[05:35] <Loshki> I will be sooo glad when this release is over...
[05:35] <Raptors> its april 29th here.
[05:35] <Flannel> Guys, take it to #ubuntu-release-party
[05:36] <tech-mike> anybody here able to help with a backtrack 4 final live usb boot prob?
[05:36] <scunizi> !backtrack
[05:36] <hexdump_> just curious I'm downloading a torrent and I'm getting an unregistered torrent error.  I know it probably has something to do with the tracker, but I'm still able to download it.  If there is another channel that I should go to that would be cool, but if somebody here could help that would be sweet.  Thanks! :)
[05:36] <j2bv16> [raptor]  agreed
[05:37] <j2bv16> !lucid
[05:40] <zetheroo> recently I have been having some random issues with Skype and other apps going nuts with the CPU ... and I have to start killing processes right and left to gain minimal form of computing power ...
[05:40] <Twiple> Loshki: how do I make a backup of my windows system?
[05:40] <psycho> help
[05:40] <zetheroo> yesterday it was Virtual Box, Skype and the Ubuntu Sync daemon that all were grabbing 90% CPU usage ...
[05:40] <zetheroo> or trying to anyhow
[05:40] <Loshki> Twiple: I'm not the best person to advise you on that, I don't use windows. Ask on #windows
[05:41] <zetheroo> Twiple: uh ... wrong channel ...
[05:41] <Twiple> Sorry
[05:42] <scunizi> Twiple: actually just save your data since you have a recovery partition.. if something goes wrong use the recovery partition then restore your personal data
[05:42] <PhilMather> The new cloud stuff seems pretty interesting.
[05:42] <Twiple> ok
[05:42] <Twiple> thanks
[05:42] <aliciapg> how do you kill something that says it's not running?
[05:42] <zetheroo> something else I am noticing is that when I leave my system alone for a while and the screen goes black and I move the mouse to bring the screen back "on" it seems like everything is running slower than before
[05:42] <Loshki> Twiple: Actually, I would take a 2nd opinion on that. It's possible to trash the recovery partition accidentally...
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Zetheroo: run: top ,for clues
[05:43] <zetheroo> generally I am feeling Ubuntu to be more and more sluggish ... even with a strong CPU and 4GB of RAM
[05:43] <ArtVandalae> aliciapg, open a terminal.. ps aux | grep firefox ... find the pid... then kill 123456, where 123456 is the pid of the app
[05:43] <Twiple> I have an empty partition, can't I just restrict the installation to that?
[05:43] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: top shows the CPU usage, no!?
[05:43] <Loshki> zetheroo: which os release are you running?
[05:43] <aliciapg> ArtVandalae: did that
[05:43] <zetheroo> Loshki: 9.10
[05:44] <aliciapg> ArtVandalae: bash: kill: (25231) - No such process
[05:44] <Loshki> Twiple: you can, but if you make a mistake, it's unforgiving...
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Azetheroo: as well as the highest cpu user process
[05:44] <Twiple> I remember hearing about a program used to back up partitions
[05:44] <Twiple> I forgot the name
[05:44] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: like System Monitor ... right!?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Zetheroo: try a different wm/de maybe its a bug
[05:44] <aliciapg> ArtVandalae: and the pid changes every time >-<
[05:44] <scunizi> Twiple: partimage, clonezilla
[05:44] <ArtVandalae> Twiple, clonezilla?
[05:44] <Loshki> Twiple: probably norton ghost, but as I say, I'm not an expert, and it's off-topic for this channel
[05:44] <Twiple> yes, clonezilla!
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Zetheroo: no idea, I've always used top
[05:45] <Twiple> Sorry again
[05:45] <j2bv16> when will be release the final of !lucid
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> !liucid | j2bv16
[05:45] <Flannel> j2bv16: Within the next 31 hours
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | j2bv16
[05:46] <frankie_> meets and greets
[05:46] <Twiple> how do I open WUBI .disk files?
[05:46] <zetheroo> Flannel: damn ... we're counting the hours already ... how time does fly ... :)
[05:46] <aliciapg> so no one knows?
[05:46] <ArtVandalae> aliciapg, what is the process that you're trying to kill?
[05:47] <twiztid> i need help with grub
[05:47] <aliciapg> ArtVandalae: like the program?
[05:47] <ArtVandalae> twiztid, just ask
[05:47] <ArtVandalae> aliciapg, yes
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Aliciapg: so you need to kill firefox off?
[05:47] <aliciapg> ArtVandalae: aMule
[05:47] <ArtVandalae> aliciapg, try: killall amule
[05:47] <aliciapg> i can't open it because it says another instance is running
[05:47] <aliciapg> ArtVandalae: tried that
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Twiztid: sup
[05:47] <zetheroo> I think Skype is buggy in Ubuntu/Linux ...
[05:48] <Twiple> I think so too
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Zetheroo: its proprietary so development is slow
[05:48] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: indeed
[05:48] <twiztid> i edited my /etc/default/grub to default to my vista with a time out of 1 second... yet it wont auto start
[05:48] <ArtVandalae> aliciapg, ah, I've had that issue with Firefox before. It might be that something is cached somewhere (in a temp file, for example), that says that an instance exists. A restart will definitely fix it... but that's not really a solution
[05:48] <CrazyWoods> what's the exactyly time ubuntu 10.04 release?
[05:48] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: we need an open source solution for Skype :D
[05:48] <Raptors> well I killed inetd and started ident2
[05:48] <Raptors> and its working
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Twiztid: did you run: sudo update-grub
[05:48] <Raptors> I guess I'll turn on inetd again
[05:48] <ArtVandalae> CrazyWoods, #ubuntu-release-party ... no official time though
[05:49] <twiztid> each time
[05:49] <aliciapg> ArtVandalae: right... i kinda don't want to restart
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Zetheroo: the protocol is proprietary too. Look into ekiga
[05:49] <zetheroo> I really wish the ThinkVantage utilities were usable in Linux ... :P
[05:49] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I see ... so how does imo.im work?
[05:50] <ariefbayu> all, I'm using 10.04 RC 1. and few days ago, I did partial upgrade (all available updates from update manager). Is this means that I'm currently running 10.04 (the one that will be released in the next couple hours)?
[05:50] <ArtVandalae> zetheroo, ActionParsnip is right. SIP is a good alternative to skype
[05:50] <twiztid> ActionParsnip: I had it workin before but after i botted up to ubuntu and it did a update, it wont timeout in grub
[05:50] <j2bv16> i found the final ---> http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[05:50] <scunizi> ariefbayu: yes
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> Twiztid: read /boot/grub/grub.conf to verify settings are ok
[05:50] <carlll> how could i have a server on a ubuntu computer and start the server on a windows computer?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> J2bv16: lucid is offtopic here
[05:50] <zetheroo> ArtVandalae: I don't use Skype for VOIP
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Carlll: wake on lan maybe
[05:51] <ArtVandalae> zetheroo, just chat?
[05:51] <clausen> is there a good way to test ekiga?
[05:51] <scunizi> carlll: you want to start the ubuntu server from a windows computer?  what server? web, samba, ftp?
[05:51] <zetheroo> ArtVandalae: yep ...
[05:51] <frankie_> i am deciding whether to install the 64 bit one or the regular one is there much difference? I have a laptop and 4gbs of ram
[05:51] <twiztid> ActionParsnip: could i pastebin it to you for a quick look?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Clausen: use it
[05:51] <clausen> I often find that I have to hassle a friend to test VOIP programs
[05:51] <carlll> its a minecraft server
[05:51] <clausen> skype has a nice test call service
[05:51] <carlll> game
[05:51] <ArtVandalae> zetheroo, if you're interested, there is a free chat protocol called XMPP (Jabber), that is implemented by Gtalk and Facebook among others
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Twiztid: I'm not conversant with grub as I don't multiboot. Try in #grub if you get no replys
[05:52] <clausen> ActionParsnip, ?
[05:52] <carlll> the server is on the ubuntu but i want to start it from the windows computer
[05:52] <aliciapg> so no solution eh?
[05:52] <zetheroo> ArtVandalae: but you can't chat with your Skype contacts without Skype right?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Clausen: best way to test ekiga is to use it, like any other software. If it works as expected then it works
[05:52] <ArtVandalae> frankie_, not much if you use free software. Proprietary software (such as Flash) may not work without tinkering though. Although I think even Flash released a 64bit Linux version recently
[05:52] <clausen> twiztid, I can look if you like...
[05:52] <scunizi> carlll: start the entire machine or one of the many servers that can be installed on it?
[05:53] <clausen> ActionParsnip, it's very inconvenient
[05:53] <carlll> just 1 server on it
[05:53] <twiztid> cool yes please   http://pastebin.com/pPEgmb3K
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> Artvandale: flash64 has been around ages
[05:53] <ArtVandalae> zetheroo, that's correct. If Skype works for you, then stick with Skype. I just mentioned XMPP and SIP in case you're not aware that there are free alternative available
[05:53] <clausen> ActionParsnip, and in the past it hasn't worked properly for me, so I don't want to keep hassling my friends
[05:53] <brando753> anyone know how to use a usb to parallel or usb to serial in ubuntu?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> Clausen: how is it inconvenient?
[05:53] <zetheroo> ArtVandalae: cool thanks ...
[05:53] <clausen> ActionParsnip, I have to have a friend to test it with
[05:54] <clausen> ActionParsnip, i.e. disturbe someone else to test it
[05:54] <scunizi> carlll: you still didn't answer the question.. start the entire machine from power off or start the server service on a machine that's already on?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Clausen: then use a 2nd pc and talk to yourself
[05:54] <carlll> start the server when the computer is powered on
[05:54] <frankie_> ArtVandalae thank you - is it more hassle to get 64bit linux working correctly than regular one ? with it being a 1.90ghz computer with 4gbs will there be a noticable difference in performance?
[05:54] <clausen> ActionParsnip, I don't have one handy
[05:54] <twiztid> clausen: im curious about line 34
[05:54] <frankie_> 4gbs of ram^
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Frankie_: its just as easy. The pae kernel seems sluggish in my experience
[05:55] <clausen> ActionParsnip, also, LAN connections are too "easy"
[05:55] <scunizi> carlll: you can ssh into the box and from there start the server.. there's a program for windows that allows ssh to linux
[05:55] <clausen> ActionParsnip, it might work well on a LAN, but poorly over the internet
[05:55] <Diverdude> when is the new ubuntu version arriving?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Clausen: that's all I got. Any voip software needs testing though in any OS
[05:55] <ArtVandalae> scunizi, carlll , program is called PuTTY
[05:56] <ArtVandalae> Diverdude, soon. #ubuntu-release-party
[05:56] <clausen> Twiztid: sorry, what's your question?
[05:56] <clausen> ActionParsnip, skype has a test call service
[05:56] <scunizi> ArtVandalae: thanks.. I was just googling for that
[05:56] <clausen> ActionParsnip, none of the free VOIP programs have one too?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Clausen: does ekiga?
[05:56] <clausen> ActionParsnip, not last time I checked
[05:56] <scunizi> clausen: ekiga does
[05:56] <clausen> scunizi, oh, it does now?  great!
[05:56] <scunizi> clausen: has for years
[05:56] <carlll> ArtVandalae can you help me use PuTTY?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Clausen: scunizi says it does, inconvenience relieved
[05:57] <scunizi> clausen: ActionParsnip I think it's 500@ekiga.com (maybe .net)
[05:57] <twiztid> clausen: my grub is setup to default to vista with a timeout of 1, yet after todays update, it wont automatically boot
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Carlll: type the server name in the hostname box and click connect. You will then login to a command line interface
[05:57] <clausen> twiztid, you have to select it manually each time?
[05:57] <ArtVandalae> carlll, sure, but there's really not much involved. Download Putty... double click on it... enter the hostname/IP address of your Linux machine, and you're done!
[05:58] <carlll> ok
[05:58] <clausen> scunizi, so, there's no easy-to-find link for it?  hmmm
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Carlll: you will need to install openssh-server on the server
[05:58] <frankie_> ActionParsnip  would you recommend installing 64 bit because of the sluggish handling of the pae kernal ?  sorry i am newbie :o
[05:58] <twiztid> clausen: yea...
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Frankie_: for 4gb ram yes
[05:58] <clausen> grrr, ekiga doesn't fit on my screen
[05:58] <scunizi> clausen: in the setup I think it tells you.. might even be book marked.. or look on their site
[05:58] <frankie_> ActionParsnip : thank you for being helpful :)
[05:58] <baudelaire> What channel is the release party in?
[05:59] <sam204475> I have three partitions on my computer   one of them is windows.  I want to add the D:/ drive to my linux space.  any ideas how i can make my linux partition bigger?    ubuntu 10.04.
[05:59] <iamthemorticide> thats what i was wondrin
[05:59] <bazhang> !party > baudelaire
[05:59] <clausen> twiztid, I'm looking into it...
[05:59] <clausen> sam204475, gparted?
[05:59] <baudelaire> bazhang, ty
[05:59] <sam204475> Clausen   is gparted installed with ubuntu or do i n eed to download it?
[05:59] <hackoo> how to start upgrade process for karmic to lucid?
[06:00] <clausen> sam204475, I think it's already installed
[06:00] <hunahpu> sam204475: you have to install it via Software Centre/syanptic, it is loaded in livecd though
[06:00] <twiztid> clausen: specifically line 34 looks suspicious with the -1 for a timeout
[06:00] <sam204475> im not using a live CD
[06:00] <clausen> twiztid, right
[06:00] <hunahpu> sam204475: then install it via Software Centre
[06:00] <clausen> sam204475, hmmm, maybe you should use a live CD?
[06:00] <sam204475> k  ill give it a try
[06:00] <archa> the pidgin window shows my own name with which i logged in.. and if i post a mesasge to my name, it sends me back the same.. what should i do now the pidgin window shows my own name with which i logged in.. and if i post a mesasge to my name, it sends me back the same.. what should i do now ??
[06:00] <sam204475> why?
[06:01] <archa> sorry, i pasted the message twice by mistake
[06:01] <sam204475> im already installed and have been using it for a couple of weeks ~
[06:01] <anishseth> hi, can anyone tell me at what time the ubuntu 10.04  final release would be unleashed
[06:01] <clausen> sam204475, new versions of parted aren't good at resizing partitions on the same hard disk as one in use
[06:01] <clausen> (but I'm not sure)
[06:01] <clausen> I mean, it won't do damage
[06:01] <PhilMather> Anybody having issues with 10.04 and open-vm-tools wanting to install X?
[06:01] <sam204475> ok
[06:01] <clausen> but it might just complain and give up
[06:01] <sam204475> ok ill give it a go
[06:01] <twiztid> clausen: and as you can see i attempted to time out with 0 on line 36...
[06:01] <hunahpu> sam204475: unless you're resizing the partition you booted from, you won't need to use a LiveCD
[06:02] <sam204475> ive backed up everything. i have 10.04 and im ready to say BYE BYE to windows for good.   ohh  scray.
[06:02] <clausen> twiztid, you could try commenting the if...else stuff out...
[06:02] <xangua> anishseth: it was gnonna being released in 1 minute, but now that you asket it was delayed another hour :(
[06:02] <xangua> anishseth: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[06:02] <sam204475> im resizing the booted HD yeah.  ok ill get the gparted  see wha happens.
[06:02] <anishseth> xangua: if you don't wanna answer don't
[06:02] <hunahpu> sam204475: =) good choice, you can always use a virtual machine if it's absolutelly necessary to use win
[06:03] <danny__> i found this error in my MPD log file; Apr 28 22:25 : can't find alsa mixer control "PCM". any ideas anyone?
[06:03] <xangua> anishseth: is gonna be ready when it's ready
[06:03] <clausen> sam204475, I'm pretty sure that's not going to work
[06:03] <vernr> Hi. I would just like to know how to setup my system so that traffic only goes through my VPN (incoming and outgoing) whether I'm using PPTP or OpenVPN. I'm using a VPN service that charges a subscription fee and I don't want any traffic not going through the VPN for privacy reasons. I also want to be able to remote port forward a few ports. I'm using ubuntu 9.10.
[06:03] <xangua> too much !ot from my part
[06:03] <clausen> (you'll need a live cd)
[06:03] <anishseth> xangua : that is better
[06:03] <twiztid> clausen: ok, just one in front of 'if' an 'else' ?
[06:03] <clausen> you can boot a live cd off the boot partition
[06:03] <anishseth> thanks
[06:03] <clausen> twiztid, 33, 35, and 37
[06:03] <sam204475> hunahpu ~ honestly. im sick of windows.   im just so tired  of re installing over and over and the printer wont work without the cd and the wifi wont work without the small CD that dont fit in my computer.    Ubuntu really is a godsend.
[06:03] <sam204475> :D
[06:04] <clausen> sam204475, (I wrote a patch to make it easier to boot from ISOs....
[06:04] <iamthemorticide> .
[06:05] <vernr> Hi. I would just like to know how to setup my system so that traffic only goes through my VPN (incoming and outgoing) whether I'm using PPTP or OpenVPN. I'm using a VPN service that charges a subscription fee and I don't want any traffic not going through the VPN for privacy reasons. I also want to be able to remote port forward a few ports. I'm using ubuntu 9.10.
[06:05] <vernr> could someone please help!
[06:05] <hunahpu> !patience | vernr
[06:05] <iamthemorticide> Yes, yes. Doesn't network manager provide that? Are you having a problem with the network manager applet?
[06:05] <jpotts> vernr, Set your default route in for the vpn gateway.
[06:05] <padi999> Hi all
[06:05] <iamthemorticide> hi.
[06:05] <twiztid> clausen: ok would commenting 35 negate 36's instruction? or does it matter?
[06:06] <vernr> jpotts, what does that mean?
[06:06] <inuyasha> my default windows manager became mutter，how can i change it to metacity?
[06:06] <mahi> hi
[06:06] <mahi> is there any web based svn administration tools
[06:06] <padi999> in 10.4 my evolution does not show "Google" as an option for a new calendar. This worked yesterday, and today the option is gone?
[06:06] <robertzaccour> which is better for netbooks netbook edition or regular? or should i just use xubuntu or lubuntu?
[06:06] <clausen> twiztid, let me see if I can find the documentation
[06:06] <robertzaccour> for lucid i mean
[06:06] <clausen> twiztid, sorry, I'm not being systematic
[06:06] <mahi> is there any web based svn administration tools
[06:06] <Exavion> I had to work in a few kernel source updates and recompile it to work with some of my hardware in karmic, lynx claims to work with it out-of-the-box, should I just clean-install or update karmic to it?
[06:06] <mahi> hi every one
[06:07] <mahi> is there any web based svn administration tools
[06:07] <iamthemorticide> rob: i recommend not using netbook version, but using a regular distro. my opinion.
[06:07] <vernr> jpotts, how do you do that? :0
[06:07] <robertzaccour> ok thanks
[06:07] <kkpic> Does anyone know when LTS will be available?
[06:07] <hunahpu> !patience > mahi
[06:07] <twiztid> clausen: no problem, im so stumped, it worked until today, let me know what you find much appreciated
[06:07] <hunahpu> kkpic: in ~24hrs
[06:07] <clausen> twiztid, why don't you change the -1 to 2
[06:07] <robertzaccour> probably xubuntu or lubuntu. is lubuntu ready for use yet? it was unstable a year ago
[06:07] <clausen> (or 1)
[06:07] <sata> !patience > sata
[06:07] <symptom> !Lucid
[06:07] <vernr> jpotts, where did you go?
[06:07] <clausen> twiztid, "-1" means "show the menu"
[06:08] <vernr> Hi. I would just like to know how to setup my system so that traffic only goes through my VPN (incoming and outgoing) whether I'm using PPTP or OpenVPN. I'm using a VPN service that charges a subscription fee and I don't want any traffic not going through the VPN for privacy reasons. I also want to be able to remote port forward a few ports. I'm using ubuntu 9.10.
[06:08] <kkpic> I wish they wouldn't have said it would be available today
[06:08] <iamthemorticide> thank you ubo for the proper channel name for the rel party
[06:08] <twiztid> clausen: is that safe? even though its a generated config file?
[06:08] <iamthemorticide> @vernr, learn 2 ssh
[06:08] <clausen> twiztid, yeah, it's safe
[06:08] <clausen> twiztid, it won't last though...
[06:08] <noah> kkpic - i was hoping it would be available now as well
[06:08] <PhilMather> iamthemorticide: no
[06:08] <clausen> twiztid, it will get overwritten
[06:08] <hunahpu> kkpic: "today" can be yesterday in some countries and tomorrow in others... :p
[06:08] <robertzaccour> today is the 29th, so its just hours til Lucid isn't offtopic. i don't thing the final release will be any different within those hours lol
[06:08] <vernr> iamthemorticide, and that would be helpful in which way...?
[06:09] <padi999> UUH
[06:09] <Guest86759> HELLO DEVERYONE
[06:09] <PhilMather> vernr: setup a firewall rule to block all traffic except to the VPN host.
[06:09] <hunahpu> "Today" is 28th here...
[06:09] <colombian> Spanish channel?
[06:09] <padi999> I did a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure evolution" and it reappeared!
[06:09] <colombian> !es
[06:09] <hunahpu> hola colombian, en #ubuntu-es
[06:09] <colombian> Thanks
[06:09] <vernr> PhilippeD, that's exactly what I want to do but I dont know how to do that.
[06:09] <hunahpu> colombian: escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" sin las comillas
[06:09] <robertzaccour> is LXDE a safe choice over XFCE yet?
[06:09] <twiztid> clausen: ok ill give it a go, and ya its cool at least i can get it manually, hopefully... thank you very much for your help
[06:09] <PhilMather> vernr: maybe read up on firewall rules, its pretty easy.
[06:10] <vernr> PhilMather, its a huge complicated mess
[06:10] <clausen> Twiztid if that works, we can figure out hwo ti fix it properly
[06:10] <hunahpu> robertzaccour: it's not 100% stable yet but it is functional
[06:10] <PhilMather> vernr: oh?
[06:10] <vernr> Hi. I would just like to know how to setup my system so that traffic only goes through my VPN (incoming and outgoing) whether I'm using PPTP or OpenVPN. I'm using a VPN service that charges a subscription fee and I don't want any traffic not going through the VPN for privacy reasons. I also want to be able to remote port forward a few ports. I'm using ubuntu 9.10.
[06:10] <twiztid> clausen: k ill try to report back with my success...
[06:10] <robertzaccour> is it really any noticeably faster than xfce hunahpu ?
[06:11] <PhilMather> vernr: ok, listen to me.
[06:11] <frankie_> if i install the 64bit version of linux and find most things work like wifi, graphics, etc does that mean that i wont have too many hassles after installing it ?
[06:11] <clausen> twiztid, :)
[06:11] <mahi> is there any web based svn administration tools
[06:11] <PhilMather> vernr: use your VPN service, but set your firewall on your local machine to block all outgoing traffic except to the VPN service.
[06:11] <hunahpu> robertzaccour: between *buntus; not THAT faster, but yeah, it is lighter, if you're seeking for speed/lightweight you may want to try a different distro
[06:11] <PhilMather> vernr: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[06:11] <gogeta> PhilMather: i think you mean test with live cd
[06:12] <PhilMather> gogeta: that would be a bonus.
[06:12] <gogeta> PhilMather: the ubuntu cds are live cds
[06:12] <vernr> PhilMather, ok, did I mention that I need to do remote port forwarding as well?
[06:12] <robertzaccour> trading in my laptop in tomorrow for a dell mini 9 and $200. gettin my usb flash drive xubuntu ready while i still can lol
[06:13] <gogeta> !firewall ! vernr
[06:13] <PhilMather> vernr: were is the remote port forwarding coming from?
[06:13] <gogeta> ok
[06:13] <vernr> PhilMather, what do you mean?
[06:13] <gogeta> !firewall | vernr
[06:13] <wombatman> Anyone know how to exit vmware unity or is this a bug? Ubuntu is 9.10 vmware player 3.0.0 running windows xp vm
[06:13] <vernr> gogeta, I'm aware, thanks.
[06:14] <gogeta> that will give you all the info on doing that
[06:14] <vernr> but how do you forward ports to the vpn server
[06:14] <PhilMather> vernr: I presume the remote port is on far side of the VPN connection, yes?
[06:14] <vernr> PhilMather, correct
[06:14] <gogeta> vernr: itsa easy to manage threw ufw
[06:15] <PhilMather> vernr: ok, if the VPN service is issuing you a public address, then your machine one connected to the VPN service should be fully routable on the internet, via the VPN service address.
[06:15] <PhilMather> vernr: if they assign you a private address things get a bit more difficult.
[06:15] <IPSvb> hello can someone help to setup monitor + video card i installed ati-driver-installer-9-12-x86.x86_64  and tried to run ati control center but it said "There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[06:15] <IPSvb> No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.
[06:15] <IPSvb> Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig."  and my monitor is marked as unknown
[06:15] <Albi_> where is ubuntu 10.04, i've been waiting all day!!
[06:15] <hackoo> If I install lucid beta can I upgrade it to stable later?
[06:16] <vernr> PhilMather, i get a internal ip that they assign that the ports are forwarded on
[06:16] <bullgard4> How to list all tags of my firefox?
[06:16] <Albi_> hackoo you dont want to install lucid 'beta' as in a RC i think you mean
[06:16] <tumii> hackoo: why would you do that? Lucid final is released today
[06:16] <vernr> PhilMather, can we please take this to PM?
[06:16] <spikebike> s/is/will be/
[06:16] <frankie_> if i install the 64bit version of linux and find most things work like wifi, graphics, etc does that mean that i wont have too many hassles after installing it ?
[06:16] <Albi_> hackoo it has a memory leaking issue which just as you run it it just fills up your ram more and more
[06:17] <tumii> frankie_: you shuould not
[06:17] <hunahpu> frankie_: it should work fine, if you have 64-bit hardware you should be using 64-bit OS anyways.
[06:17] <hackoo> Albi_: ok, yes I dont want RC. But upgrade option shows only lucid beta.
[06:17] <hackoo> tumii: yes its released but its not available in online upgrade ?
[06:18] <PhilMather> vernr: I would suggest reading up a bit more on the firewall software.  It's better to understand what you are doing for your protection then having somebody guide you through the process.
[06:18] <Albi_> frankie_: when you install a 64bit version all applications that are installed must be 64bit to run, unless you are into heavy video editing there is really no point
[06:18] <tumii> hackoo: not yet, i think?
[06:18] <hunahpu> hackoo: the final version is not out yet, wait ~24 hours for the network upgrade
[06:18] <Flannel> hackoo: It's not released yet.
[06:18] <hackoo> tumii: ok
[06:18] <n2diy> I just shutdown my test box with ssh over the lan, can I restart it with ssh? i don't see how, since it is off line?
[06:19] <frankie_> albi_ it makes me feel uncomfortable if i knowingly dont use my hardcare to its full capabilities
[06:19] <hunahpu> Albi_: of course there is a big point in using 64-bit software, otherwise you're wasting your hardware...
[06:19]  * hackoo waiting for stable lucid
[06:19] <Albi_> frankie_ and hunahpu you waste your hardware even more if you can only run one or two applictaions on it
[06:20] <tumii> 10.04 is not released yet? probably later today, or?
[06:20] <kaushal> what does the motto "Linux for Human Beings!" means
[06:20] <spikebike> hrm
[06:20] <hunahpu> Albi_: having 64-bit software allows you to run more apps at the same time actually.....
[06:20] <Flannel> tumii: Sometime within the next 30 hours
[06:20] <tumii> okay
[06:20] <spikebike> if you install a lucid release candidate, then apt-get upgrade/update, is there a file that indidcates if you are still running the rc or if it's the release?
[06:20] <Albi_> kaushal: because linux use to be really complicated, ubuntu makes linux easy because everything works out of the box just about
[06:21] <uLand> aE.....
[06:21] <Flannel> spikebike: Once its released, and once you upgrade, you're good.
[06:21] <Albi_> hunahpu: only if the app supports slash is written for 64bit
[06:21] <ded> What's the apt-get/aptitude command to search for a package containing a specific file?
[06:21] <Flannel> spikebike: It's not released yet, so you won't be on final yet.
[06:21] <Flannel> ded: apt-file
[06:21] <spikebike> hunahpu: 64-bit has just about nothing to do with how much you can run at once
[06:21] <ded> Flannel, cheers
[06:21] <hunahpu> kaushal: it's from the actual word "Ubuntu", an african word that means something like "Humanity for all human kind"; express that ubuntu means to make the use of Linux something anyone can do, both usability and accessability
[06:21] <spikebike> Flannel: er, yeah I know but once you are how can you tell?
[06:21] <NerdsMcGee> Hey guys, I just installed Lucid and installed the nVidia restricted drivers on my MacBookPro5,5. When I boot now though, my boot resolution is very low. The same thing happened on Karmic. It was fine before I installed the nVidia drivers. Any ideas as to how I can fix this?
[06:22] <hunahpu> spikebike: of course it does
[06:22] <spikebike> hunahpu: er no
[06:22] <hunahpu> spikebike: that's the idea behind jumping to 64-bits arch
[06:22] <Flannel> spikebike: I don't know if its written anywhere, but you'll know since you're up to date
[06:22] <wombatman> anyone use vmware player unity?
[06:22] <hunahpu> spikebike: yes of course, with 64-bits you can effectively use more threads allowing you to run paralel processes
[06:22] <IPSvb> can someone help to setup ATI video card ?
[06:23] <vernr> PhilMather, could you at least tell me this: what is the process of only allowing VPN traffic to and from your machine called?
[06:23] <spikebike> running 32 bit or 64-bit os has nothign to do with how many programs you can run at once
[06:23] <hunahpu> spikebike: again, it's the whole idea of jumping to 64-bits....
[06:23] <spikebike> hunahpu: er, no it's not
[06:23] <calamari> hi
[06:23] <Albi_> frankie_ 64bit hasnt picked up yet, most hardware nowadays supports 64bit, yet people still use 32bit, if you are an advance user you can go 64bit, but if you are not you will have many troubles
[06:23] <hunahpu> spikebike: yes... do you know what threads are?
[06:24] <duckwars> is there anyway to check if I made a proper bootable USB?I can't seem to get my computer to boot from the USB...
[06:24] <spikebike> hunahpu: yes I'm quite familiar with threads, they run just fine on 32 bit machines
[06:24] <NerdsMcGee> is my /etc/usplash.conf supposed to be non-existant after installing nVidia drivers?
[06:24] <n2diy> I just shutdown my test box with ssh over the lan, can I restart it with ssh? i don't see how, since it is off line?
[06:24] <spikebike> hunahpu: hold that thought I have to scarf some food
[06:24] <calamari> duckwars: do an fdisk on the drive, is there a * in the bootable column for the boot partition?
[06:25] <hunahpu> spikebike: is not if they run or not fine in 32bits... how many threads can you program in a 32bit machine and how many in a 64bit? if you still say it doesn't allow you to run more processes... I'll call you a blind person.
[06:25] <Flannel> n2diy: If it has some sort of Wake On Lan, you could, but in general, no.
[06:25] <duckwars> hm... problem is I don't have access to a linux machine
[06:25] <abyssx> 64bit is for folks that think 4+ gigs should be enough for anyone
[06:25] <abyssx> "*gigs of memory :P
[06:25] <n2diy> Flannel: thanks, do you know what the wake on lan command syntax would be?
[06:25] <Albi_> NerdsMcGee you shouldnt need that usplash for nvidia you want /etc.X11/xorg.conf
[06:25] <calamari> duckwars: oh so this is something you copied on
[06:25] <vernr> what is the process of only allowing VPN traffic to and from your machine called, anyone?
[06:25] <hunahpu> abyssx: having 64-bits software is far more than being able to use more than 2^32 of RAM........
[06:26] <NerdsMcGee> Albi_: That tells it the boot resolution too? When I get to gdm, the resolution is fine.
[06:26] <PhilMather> vernr: firewalling/blocking local traffic.
[06:26] <Flannel> n2diy: You'd have to set up a magic packet before shutting it down, and then you find WoL software (some is in the repos) and have at it.
[06:26] <Albi_> NerdsMcGee pardon the error i meant /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:26]  * hunahpu stops the !ot
[06:26] <duckwars> yea... i tried doing what it said here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick for mac
[06:26] <bebobli> abyssx: Isn't that backwards? Wouldn't one who desired the benefits of more power desire more RAM (beyond 4 gigs) rather than less?
[06:26] <frankie_> are there many programs that still won' twork on 64bit ubuntu? i thought most of the issues with it were gone?
[06:26] <PhilMather> vernr: you would in theory block all outbound and inbound traffic from your local machine, except to the address of the VPN server.
[06:26] <duckwars> now I just wanna know if I made the usb wrong, or if I'm failing to get my computer to boot from it
[06:26] <calamari> duckwars: oh you have an intel mac?  I can't help you there, sorry
[06:27] <duckwars> calamari: I also have a windows 7 computer I can check the USB with
[06:27] <PhilMather> vernr: again, this would prevent data from getting on the non vpn local network.
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Duckwars: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[06:27] <n2diy> Flannel: roger that, sounds like a project for the waking hours, tnxs again.
[06:27] <Sp0t> releases.ubuntu.com doesn't work..
[06:27] <Albi_> hunahpu: it may allow you to run more processors but it does not allow you to run more programs because barely anybody is coding for 64bit, if you want to rewrite every program that you want to install to run 64bit go ahead and install it
[06:28] <xangua> !party > Sp0t
[06:28] <duckwars> no... but I did just try to read the USB in windows and it said I need to format.... so I'm gonna format and then try put UBUNTU on the USB again
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Albi: I've ran 64bit for years with no issues. The repos have 64bit apps and 32bit
[06:28] <n2diy> !party
[06:28] <gFred> Any ideas what time the Ubuntu Lucid Lynx will be released?
[06:29] <Albi_> NerdsMcGee if you are talking about the resolution when it boots as in all the white text on black background you cannot change that, it should change to your proper res when you reach the dm and then when you log in it should also keep that higher resoplution
[06:29] <eycel> hi
[06:29] <xangua> gFred: in a couple of light years
[06:29] <NerdsMcGee> Albi_: But it was proper res on VESA
[06:29] <Sp0t> the country where I am is not on the map!
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Duckwars: if you donrt test the md5 then you have no idea if the data sis complete or consistant
[06:29] <hunahpu> xangua: isn't light year a distance unit?
[06:29] <IPSvb> can someone help to install a video driver ?
[06:29] <hunahpu> :p
[06:29] <NerdsMcGee> Albi_: Also, I'm talking about the grahical loader. With ubuntu and the colored background
[06:29] <duckwars> how do I test the md5?
[06:29] <xangua> hunahpu: yes, !bazinga
[06:29] <ggnz> :p
[06:29] <Albi_> ActionParsnip: yes there are applications for 64bit, just a program that isnt written for 64bit wont run on 64bit
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Ipsvb: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:30] <Albi_> NerdsMcGee: yeahp everybody has that low resolution of 640x480 or whatever it is for that graphical loader, just like in windows, theres probably a way to change it but probably complicated and not worth your while
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Albi_: you can run 32bit apps using ia32-libs
[06:31] <NerdsMcGee> Albi_: That's what I don't get. It was 1280x800 when I first installed, and worked until I installed the nVidia restricted drivers
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | duckwars
[06:31] <IPSvb> ActionParsnip  can you make privet chat please
[06:31] <Albi_> ActionParsnip: its been about 2 years since i looked into 64bit, i will check out what this lib
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Ipsvb: no keep it in the channel
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Albi_; can you please stop spreading ignorance then
[06:32] <calamari> since upgrading to karmic, sound skips in most applications.. is there a fix for this?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Albi_: you can run 32bit apps on 64biut ubuntu and you are tlling users its not possible
[06:32] <freezway> is RGBA enabled by default in ubuntu 10.04?
[06:32] <Albi_> ActionParsnip: how dare you even accuse me of such
[06:32] <twiztid> clausen: good news! that workaround got it to boot up automatically!
[06:33] <xangua> freezway: that depend of the them you are using and it's configuration; join #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[06:33] <IPSvb> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[06:33] <xangua> theme*
[06:33] <hunahpu> freezway: the short answer is yes; but it really depends on the specific application you're using
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Albi_: you are also telling users that installing video drivers is complicated and not woretg the effort which is also false
[06:33] <freezway> ty
[06:33] <k2s> is it a good practice to have default ubuntu user ? shoul I rename it after installation ? how ? thank you
[06:33] <Albi_> NerdsMcGee: not sure then, if its only the lower res in the graphical loader id consider myself lucky, lol
[06:33] <Albi_> ActionParsnip: PTTTTTT WHAT ON EARTH, i said nothing of the kind
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Ipsvb: great, in the administration menu there is a hardware driver installer. If you click it are you offered a driver?
[06:34] <Flannel> k2s: during install you'll pick a name for your user, "ubuntu" won't be it.
[06:34] <IPSvb> ActionParsnip: Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid.
[06:34] <hunahpu> k2s: it's not a good practice, security-wise
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: can you please paste albi_ saying getting better display is hard. My client only caches about 50 lines
[06:35] <k2s> Flannel: I am on Amazon EC2 and that is pre-installed image with ubuntu :-(
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Iipsvb: ati has a proprietary driver for you card.
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> !ati | ipsvb
[06:36] <Albi_> ActionParsnip: i said changing of the graphical loader is hard, i said nothing about installing video drivers or the bullshit you are quoting, now honestly i came in here to help out which is more than what you are doing so fuck off
[06:36] <IPSvb> ubottu :  thanks
[06:36] <k2s> does anybody know how to rename that "ubuntu" user ?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Albi_: cool
[06:37]  * hunahpu is grateful the bad-karma Albi is out
[06:37] <Deadpocketss> Does everything in Windows XP have an equivalent in Ubuntu?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> K2s: in user manager
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Deadpocketss: mostly yes
[06:37] <hunahpu> Deadpocketss: not everything, but most of it yest
[06:38] <Deadpocketss> I'm considering a clean install. I'm not sure yet.
[06:38] <hunahpu> Deadpocketss: It's a good idea if you use Ubuntu more than Win, and if you can do all your work with it
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Deadpocketss: could install to usb/sd card to test :D
[06:38] <jumbers> Deadpocketss: Do it. If you really need windows, you can install it in VirtualBox
[06:38] <Deadpocketss> I have them side by side right now.
[06:39] <IPSvb> ActionParsnip: yes and i istalled it it said "There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[06:39] <IPSvb> No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.
[06:39] <IPSvb> Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig.
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Deadpocketss: my bad
[06:39] <IPSvb> "
[06:39] <hunahpu> Deadpocketss: many of us have a dual boot machine (double head system)
[06:39] <FloodBot4> IPSvb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:40] <hunahpu> IPSvb: how did you install the driver? did you restart X?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Ipsvb: there is a way to generate an xorg.conf file but I am unaware of the sytax, you can then edit that to load the driver
[06:40] <Deadpocketss> I'm going to clean install, nevermind. It shouldn't have even been in question.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Hanahpu: good point
[06:40] <hunahpu> Deadpocketss: Good choice; if you ever need win, there are virtual machines
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Ipsvb: reboot after you install the driver (makes things easier and tests from a cold boot)
[06:41] <Deadpocketss> Yeah. Ill do it after it updates.
[06:41] <hunahpu> Deadpocketss: you are waiting for updates in order to make a clean install??
[06:42] <Deadpocketss> Lol
[06:42] <Deadpocketss> I just realised what I said.
[06:43] <Discombobulator> hello, I know this might've been asked many times today, but at what time lucid will be released?
[06:43] <Flannel> Discombobulator: soemtime within the next 31 hours
[06:43] <kwtm> Discombobulator: You don't have it yet?
[06:43] <hunahpu> Discombobulator: in about ~24 hours
[06:43] <NinoScript> NerdsMcGee, Hey, I'm PMing you :D
[06:44] <anon__> so no official time just within 31 hrs?
[06:44] <hunahpu> Discombobulator: there is a channel about it, #ubuntu-release-party I think, message ubottu with !lucid
[06:44]  * spikebike returns
[06:44] <ac_4934> how to earn money?
[06:44] <Discombobulator> hunahpu, thanks for the channel
[06:44] <hunahpu> anon__: it's scheduled for the 29th, but they never mention a time-zone :p and delays are common
[06:44] <piju> any ham radio operator here ?
[06:44] <spikebike> hunahpu: say you want to run a few hundred apaches on a 16gb ram machine
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> !ot | ac_4934
[06:45] <anon__> thanks alot for the answer
[06:45] <hunahpu> spikebike: remember that having 100 apaches open doesn't imply they are working at the same time; with a 64-bit machine (software included) more of them will be able tu be running simultaneusly
[06:46] <mdel> hrm
[06:46] <mdel> my sata drive keeps "resetting"
[06:46] <spikebike> hunahpu: er, exactly one will be running per core (or 2 per core if you have hyperthreading)
[06:46] <spikebike> in the 32 bit or 64 bit case
[06:46] <hunahpu> mdel: what do you mean resetting?
[06:46] <mdel> so my machine keeps freezing for approx 30 seconds
[06:46] <mdel> hunahpu: the error is "ata3: hard resetting"
[06:47] <mdel> then the machine locks up
[06:47] <ac_4934> how to earn money?
[06:47] <mdel> then the message is something like "sata XX: link is up 1.5gbs"
[06:47] <spikebike> hunahpu: the schedule will give the appearance of many running at once
[06:47] <mdel> the drive is fine, as this occurs with another drive as well
[06:47] <spikebike> er scheduler
[06:47] <mdel> im thinking its the sata controller
[06:47] <mdel> but maybe drivers?
[06:47] <hunahpu> mdel: it might be your computer sata controller
[06:48] <hunahpu> yeah
[06:48] <mcnellis> what times does 10.04 come out?
[06:48] <ac_4934> how to earn money?
[06:49] <Flannel> ac_4934: that's offtopic here, find a more suitable channel
[06:49] <zefyr> red 5 standing bye
[06:49] <mdel> hunahpu: here's hoping an off-mobo sata controller will help
[06:49] <Flannel> mcnellis: Soemtime within the next 30 hours.  Follow along in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:49] <hunahpu> mdel: yes, that may work
[06:50] <hunahpu> mdel: there are pci ones I think, some mobos are cheaper though :p
[06:50] <losairo> Hi. Anyone know if today will be really released the 10.04 lts?
[06:51] <Flannel> losairo: Within the next 30 hours.  Follow along in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:51] <hunahpu> losairo: yes, but "today" is "yesterday/tomorrow" depending on your time-zone; it is the 28th in the (US) west coast for example.
[06:51] <losairo> thank you
[06:51] <hunahpu> :p
[06:52]  * hunahpu feels sorry for Canonicals servers... they will be loaded.
[06:52] <supervivid> whats the exact UTC time for the release?
[06:52] <spikebike> I kinda wish canonical would publish torrents 1 hour before opening the webservers
[06:53] <Laibcoms> supervivid, from experience, as long as there's a timezone that is still in the relase day (in this case April 29th), then it is still "on time"
[06:53] <hunahpu> supervivid: they don't tell... :p delays are always expected, be patient; it should be out in ~24hours go to #ubuntu-release-party to count down
[06:53] <sandipb> why dont you download the rc torrent now and then zsync it when released?
[06:53] <mdel> zsync???
[06:53] <spikebike> sandipb: hard to guess how many blocks will be shared between rc and release
[06:53] <supervivid> thanks
[06:53] <spikebike> even an offset of 1 byte would invalidate every block
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> spikebike: um, zsync works rather well for what he's suggesting actually.
[06:54] <sandipb> spikebike: even a beta2 to rc release, the zsync diff was only about 70%
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> supervivid: as Laibcoms said, there is no time of release, only a day.
[06:54] <sandipb> sorry, 30%. 70% was already identical
[06:54] <supervivid> great
[06:54] <sandipb> the rc to release version would have more identical
[06:55] <supervivid> i'll be waiting for the last time zone in the last hour
[06:55] <ac_4934> how to earn money?
[06:55] <spikebike> sandipb: interesting 70% in common or 70% new (i.e. was the 2nd download 70% or 30%
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> ac_4934: ....that's definitely not an Ubuntu support question.
[06:55] <spikebike> )
[06:55] <bazhang> ac_4934, please stop asking that.
[06:55] <sandipb> 70% in common
[06:56] <ac_4934> i need money
[06:56] <NinoScript> any other MacBook users here? (specially looking for MacBookPro5,5 users, but it would be nice to contact any Mac user out there :D)
[06:56] <spikebike> sounds promising
[06:56] <bazhang> ac_4934, it has nothing to do with ubuntu support . please stop or you will be removed
[06:57] <eycel> hi can some one anser an linux question
[06:57] <xzxzxz> I would like to make a script that starts openvpn by opening a ovpn file, pauses for 1 second, enters in a username, presses enter then enters a password. could anyone show me how to do this please?
[06:57] <sandipb> BTW, am just now zsyncing the kubuntu rc cd images by using the ubuntu rc images as seed. Seems on an average about 70% identical.
[06:57] <sandipb> but yeah, rc to rc
[06:57] <eycel> how do i get special font characters to come up in linux?
[06:57] <BiggFREE> The support is really good. Thanks a lot.
[06:57] <eycel> like in windows you have the character box in program files
[06:59] <xzxzxz> eycel, applications -- accessories -- character map
[06:59] <padi999> Can I make the about:home google screen in firefox under ubuntu 10.4 somehow make the default for google searches?
[06:59] <hunahpu> padi999: google is the default browser engine in firefox (10.04)
[07:00] <hunahpu> if that's what you mean
[07:00] <xzxzxz> I would like to make a script that starts openvpn by opening a ovpn file, pauses for 1 second, enters in a username, presses enter then enters a password. could anyone show me how to do this please?
[07:00] <padi999> hunahpu: yes but google has a different design/layout if you browse to googlecom instead of the about:home screen
[07:00] <gleenn> so who's exited about tomorrow?
[07:00] <gleenn> or is it out already?
[07:01] <padi999> hunahpu: I don't like google's new design/layout. I want the about:home style everywhere
[07:01] <hunahpu> gleenn: it is not out yet
[07:02] <hunahpu> padi999: google has a new design?
[07:02] <NinoScript> eycel, also, if you know the unicode of a character, you could make it by pressing ctrl+shift and entering the code
[07:03] <eycel> dop de dop
[07:03] <eycel> ;)
[07:04] <NinoScript> eycel, for example, ctrl+shift, then while pressed u2603 gives you ☃ when you let the ctrl+shift go
[07:04] <NinoScript> eycel, try it :D, snowman rocks! ☃☃☃☃☃☃☃
[07:04] <eycel> k nino thanks
[07:05] <ac_4934> child porn here?
[07:05] <Homer_Rox_Ya> Ubuntu 10.04 is out and I'm running it with issues. It's really nice, but now I have to find something to do instead fixing my computer, it's sort of boring.
[07:05] <rww> ac_4934: No.
[07:06] <rww> ubottu: tell ac_4934 about guidelines
[07:06] <ac_4934> oh ok
[07:06] <hunahpu> Homer_Rox_Ya: 10.04 is not out yet...
[07:06] <gleenn> but we're so close
[07:06] <rww> Homer_Rox_Ya: haha, I know the feeling
[07:06] <ac_4934> ubottu, i don't sell child porn
[07:06] <ac_4934> don't ask me
[07:07] <rww> ac_4934: Now would be a great time for you to drop this topic.
[07:07] <NinoScript> I'm sorry if I shouldn't say this, but… could you ban ac_4934?
[07:07] <rww> speedy Flannel is speedy
[07:08] <gleenn> uh, wrong room guys...
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:10] <gogeta> rww: there is a command to grab the ops attetion but they relly better be doing something wrong before you triger it
[07:10] <rww> gogeta: I'm aware of this.
[07:12] <emacspp> Who can tell me why I can not get the real Ubuntu10.04 as is reported today
[07:12] <BiggFREE> bbl
[07:12] <BiggFREE> tc
[07:12] <Flannel> emacspp: It'll be released within the next 30 hours.
[07:12] <gogeta> emacspp: its not out yet
[07:12] <dominicdinada> it is only april 29th @ 1:12am right now
[07:13] <luckymurali> hi to all
[07:13] <emacspp> Thanks
[07:13] <gogeta> it will be 1 minut late just to annoy everyone
[07:13] <gogeta> lol
[07:13] <McNuggets> lol
[07:13] <luckymurali> how do I list the first line of all files in a folder using head and ls command?
[07:14] <McNuggets> Tab
[07:14] <jlgaddis> for FILE in * ; do head -n 1 $FILE ; done
[07:14] <gleenn> you should use xargs
[07:14] <gleenn> it's cooler
[07:14] <gleenn> impress your teacher
[07:15] <luckymurali> nwithout using for loop
[07:15] <jlgaddis> luckymurali: sounds like homework
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> I'd use: ls | head -n 1
[07:15] <gleenn> seriously
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Works in my head, can't test though
[07:15] <jlgaddis> won't work
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> No. That'd just show first result
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> D'oh
[07:16] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: whers your ubuntu box
[07:16] <hasardeur> hi @ all
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: I'm on a bus. I'm getting a new pc soon so I've made my desktop good and genericv to sell
[07:16] <luckymurali> I used it but I forgotbthe command
[07:16] <bluebird421> Hi everyone
[07:17] <hasardeur> is it a good idea to do a dpkg --get-selections on ubuntu 9.10 in order to do a --set-selection in 10.04?
[07:17] <PaperBoy> any ffmpeg expects in here?
[07:17] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: bad you never sell a linux box you make it a server
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Hasardeur: should be fine. If you used any ppas you will need to add those too
[07:18] <hasardeur> yes, of course, thank you very much, ActionParsnip!
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: I have lots of 300mhz systems laying around. Wanted to make the cost less by recouping from the current
[07:19] <thelostpatrol> hey guys, any news on the 10.4 final release download links?
[07:19] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: 5 ps fans and 3 hdds my 333 m2 is stil happly running as a server
[07:19] <dudeface> when does ubuntu come out
[07:20] <thelostpatrol> 10.4 is planned for today
[07:20] <Flannel> thelostpatrol, dudeface: it'll be released sometime within the next 30 hours.  Join #ubuntu-release-party for updates
[07:20] <rootlinuxusr> how can i determine what device is mounted from it's mount point?
[07:20] <thelostpatrol> okay, sounds good. i'll join.
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: pentium 233mhz with 64mb ram running gentoo runs torrents+samba+backups ;)
[07:20] <rootlinuxusr> (sd card)
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Rootlinuxusr: mount ,will tell you
[07:21] <gleenn> rootlinuxusr: mount command by itself will list all mounted devices
[07:21] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: 486 dx2 running slack as a torrent server
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: nice
[07:22] <rootlinuxusr> lists mmcblock0p1, how can i format that? it's not located under /dev.
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: I inherit old systems but figured i'd buy a new one for once. Acer nvidia ion nettop. Its spiffy
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Rootlinuxusr: try: sudo fdisk -l
[07:23] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: man should gone for the g73
[07:24] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: of yea a dell c610 converted to compact flash as me media center running puppy
[07:24] <hechu> rabbit
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: I'm looking up g73
[07:25] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: hdd died so i put a 2.5 ida to dule cf flash adaptor in
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: asus g73 is expensive dude. I web browse and chat. My current rig is half the power of the acer and does what I need already
[07:26] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i buy power lol
[07:26] <KeithWeisshar> how many hours will ubuntu 10.04 be relased in?
[07:26] <KeithWeisshar> it's 2:26am where i live
[07:26] <pakete> hey all
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: I buy low power consumption. Was going to get a fitpc2 but its not got enough beef for halflife2
[07:27] <Flannel> KeithWeisshar: Within the next 30 hours
[07:27] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: oh i got a little netbook for that
[07:27] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: but when its gameing time you pull out that bad boy
[07:27] <zencat> anyone know how many hours till 10.04 is released?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | zencat
[07:28] <zencat> cheers
[07:30] <baudelaire> Anyone know why they've significantly cut down the number of official US Ubuntu Mirrors?  MIT and GATech used to have their links posted up there
[07:30] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: did the channel die lol
[07:30] <sud0> hi
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: not sure. Seems ok
[07:31] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: none is speeking other then us and the guy asking abought mirrors
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Guys that's how it goes for now
[07:31] <gogeta> baudelaire: when lucid comes out they will be lots of mirrors
[07:31]  * PorkusMcG is excited!
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> And now I gotta go work so just you now gogeta ;)
[07:31] <gogeta> :(
[07:32] <sauce> running 9.10 and see new kernel updates pushed out, maybe something up soon with 10.04, probably not but i can pretend it is
[07:32] <PorkusMcG> so, forgive me for being noob (I am not, actually rofl), but uh ... did they post a *time* that 10.04 goes live?
[07:32] <rww> PorkusMcG: no
[07:32] <sauce> ubuntuforums people say no timetable given
[07:32] <Flannel> PorkusMcG: No, it'll be released sometime on the 29th, which means within the next 30 hours or so
[07:32] <brutusgodric> anyone here into mpd? i found this error in my MPD log file; Apr 28 22:25 : can't find alsa mixer control "PCM".
[07:32] <rww> PorkusMcG: announcements will be posted to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ and this channel's /topic when it's done
[07:32] <gogeta> sometimes in the last few hrs they do a countdown
[07:32] <Flannel> gogeta: No, they don't
[07:33] <PorkusMcG> Thanx guys, I was just wondering.  rww ty fer the link!!!
[07:33] <dethklok> PorkusMG: 10:04 AM GMT of course:)
[07:33] <gogeta> Flannel: not foing it with this lts are they
[07:33] <PorkusMcG> dethklok: rofl
[07:33] <gogeta> doin
[07:33] <predakanga> Heh, I'm just idling waiting for the release as well
[07:33] <wildbat> just y ppl care sooooo much about when 10.04 time of release~ .... ?
[07:33] <gogeta> predakanga: enjoy that 30 hr idel
[07:33] <killaz_> when ubuntu 10.04 will be release ?
[07:34] <Flannel> gogeta: They've never done a countdown, because that would mean they'd know when they were going to release ita few hours ahead of time, which they don't
[07:34]  * McNuggets waits for the mirrors to crash under the load 
[07:34] <Flannel> Guys, please take the Lucid questions to #ubuntu-release-party, thanks
[07:34] <gogeta> Flannel: well i saw em do it once
[07:34] <predakanga> Flannel: kk
[07:34] <PorkusMcG> Flannel: thanx, I also didnt know about that channel.
[07:34] <rootlinuxusr> http://pastebin.com/S0wjRhLc why did this exit with an error - tried to format a sdcard
[07:35] <gogeta> Flannel: im not shure haw far back that was thow it has beena wile
[07:36] <Kartagis> what time will Lucid be released?
[07:36] <gogeta> thers no time
[07:36] <gogeta> just a date
[07:37] <gogeta> i dunno why people even go crazy for the exact time all thats gonna happon is the servers will flood
[07:37] <PorkusMcG> Hey Flannel, is there any way to make that little added note there in bold or flashing, or fancy colors?
[07:38] <Flannel> PorkusMcG: nope
[07:38] <kelvinella> hi, how to use d-link airplus-G card with ubuntu?
[07:38] <rootlinuxusr> how can i format fat32 to an sdcard from command prompt?
[07:38] <PorkusMcG> Flannel: too bad.  i am going to use Bittorrent to get mine.
[07:38] <kelvinella> the model number is DWL-G650+A
[07:38] <gogeta> !wireless | kelvinella
[07:40] <wildbat> rootlinuxusr, mkfs.vfat -F 32 <dev>
[07:41] <dethklok> join #anime.de
[07:41] <cbill> hey i have a question, my PC is idling at 40% ram usage(775MB) but i can only acct for around 200MB in processes, any idea were the other 500MB is going?
[07:42] <rootlinuxusr> @wildbat should it just say mkfs.vfat versinfo dateofrelease and that's it?
[07:42] <tp43> how much ram you got, or how much % is 200mb?
[07:43] <mrak> egresh: :D
[07:43] <wildbat> cbill, cache , buffer, etc~
[07:43] <tp43> cbill, MINE IS THE SAME
[07:44] <cbill> ya im reading a forum, seems its normal amount
[07:44] <tp43> there is lots of processes, adds up
[07:44] <wildbat> rootlinuxusr, huh?
[07:45] <rootlinuxusr> @wildbat http://pastebin.com/6Dgw1Lv9 this is my result.
[07:46] <brutusgodric> can i disable the fact that my right-click acts as a left-click sometimes? like if i were to right click on my desktop and accidentally right click again on one of the menu items that come up, it acts as if i right clicked on the menu item because it activates the clicked item
[07:46] <Padhu> Is Lucid Lynx released?
[07:46] <drwxr-xr-x> At what time does Ubuntu 10.04 actually go oficially live?
[07:46] <rootlinuxusr> curious as to that answer too.
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[07:47] <candy> #np
[07:47] <zash> !isitoutyet
[07:47] <candy> how to go to another channel?
[07:47] <rootlinuxusr> type /j
[07:47] <drwxr-xr-x> Thank you! :) I'll go there.
[07:48] <wildbat> rootlinuxusr, and? what else you need?
[07:48] <optimus_t> how do i fix the broken packages?
[07:48] <rootlinuxusr> is that what it's supposed to look like, or is it supposed to give a wget-ish display?
[07:48] <wildbat> wget-ish?
[07:49] <wildbat> rootlinuxusr, yes it is supposed to look like this ~
[07:49] <rootlinuxusr> you know how wget gives a percentage based on what percent is finished?
[07:49] <rootlinuxusr> okay.
[07:49] <rootlinuxusr> ^_^
[07:49] <wildbat> rootlinuxusr, it is quick format ~ so no percentage
[07:50] <rootlinuxusr> anyway to format regularly? trying to fix fubar G1 phone...
[07:50] <rootlinuxusr> need virgin sdcard.
[07:50] <Padhu> Waiting for Lucid................
[07:50] <optimus_t> could not mark all the packages??
[07:50] <abyssx> whats the rls party channel?
[07:50] <Skeptic> so where can i find the lucid iso?
[07:50] <rootlinuxusr> ubuntu-release-party?
[07:50] <wildbat> quick format shall be fine ~
[07:51] <wildbat> !lucid
[07:51] <Rune> Whenever I use dch -i it grabs my name from /etc/passwd and uses username@host as my email despite that I have set DEBEMAIL="some@mail.net" and DEBFULLNAME="name" in ~/.devscripts
[07:51] <Imran-UK> anyone know what time of day 10.04 will be released?
[07:52] <Imran-UK> the website just says "soon"
[07:52] <metaleks> o welp
[07:52] <PorkusMcG> Ugh, the #Ubuntu-release-party channel has gotten .... a bit rediculous.  I'm out for the night.
[07:52] <sam204475> is there a room for playing games on ubuntu?
[07:52] <sam204475> ????
[07:52] <PorkusMcG> nite all!  see y'all on the flipside.
[07:56] <someonespecial> after putting apparmor into complain mode where do i find the complaints it logs?
[07:56] <tarzeau> is it out already?
[07:56] <someonespecial> all of the pages on the net i must be bad at searching
[07:56] <someonespecial> over and over it tells me it will log it but does not say where the log is
[07:57] <someonespecial> help help!
[07:57] <NerdsMcgee_> I think I have Lucid pretty much setup on my MacBookPro5,5 :)
[07:57] <someonespecial> heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!
[07:57] <sam204475> Someone Special.... with Ubuntu  or something else?
[07:57] <someonespecial> karmic
[07:57] <agapoulhs> where is ubuntu 10.04.....??
[07:57] <sam204475> karmic?  whats that?
[07:57] <someonespecial> karmic is ubuntu 9.1
[07:57] <sam204475> 10.04 ~~~ 囧 who knows.  its taking a long time to get here...
[07:58] <someonespecial> halp halp!
[07:58] <someonespecial> why does it take me 40mins just to figure out where apparmor logs stuff
[07:58] <someonespecial> and counting
[07:59] <rootlinuxusr> whereis apparmor*log?
[07:59] <someonespecial> i searched and every page tells me complain logs violations but doesnt say where the log is
[07:59] <sam204475> oh.
[07:59] <sam204475> i was using 9.10
[08:00] <wildbat> someonespecial, did you checks /var/log ?
[08:00] <friendforall> i need some different help
[08:00] <someonespecial> il check
[08:00] <wildbat> 90% of the  logs are there
[08:00] <Webdev_SEO> hi guys
[08:00] <daMull> someonespecial:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor
[08:01] <daMull> took me 2 minutes and some googling
[08:02] <theuros> someone can give me an advice ... i use ubuntu for a few months and i have a problem wich i don't know how to solve ....
[08:03] <rootlinuxusr> !ask
[08:03] <theuros> gimp doesn't work anymore...
[08:03] <theuros> i tryed to unistall it . and installit again
[08:03] <theuros> when i try to run it ... nothing happens ..
[08:04] <theuros> for first few secconds seens like something is loading but then stops
[08:04] <wildbat> theuros, try run it in terminal and get the error msg
[08:04] <someonespecial> what is in /etcpasswd?
[08:05] <someonespecial> whats located in /etc/passwd
[08:06] <wildbat> someonespecial, user login infmation ~ so you don't wanna touch
[08:06] <rootlinuxusr> hash stored passwords
[08:06] <Spank> good morning
[08:06] <thrityfourfifty> mouning
[08:06] <someonespecial> wildbat: damn skype is snooping all over my system
[08:06] <someonespecial> its peking in there
[08:06] <thrityfourfifty> purge it
[08:06] <Spank> when we expect the 10.04 to be released?
[08:06] <sam204475> ~~ need help with using Wine.. Anyone able to help?
[08:06] <Manfred-> Spank: XD
[08:07] <theuros> ok i will try it when i arrive at home ...  seccond question ... i have windows here at work .. and it sucks .. i will install ubuntu, but i still need windows sometimes ... dualboot sucks so i will use virtual box .. anyone know how well win xp will run in virtual box? .. my comp. spec are: AMD sempron 2600 with 1,5gb of ram
[08:07] <wildbat> someonespecial, what do skype have to do with /etc/passwd?
[08:07] <frankie_> its thursday
[08:07] <rootlinuxusr> should run fine. done it before.
[08:07] <thrityfourfifty> theuros it runs perfectly well
[08:07] <noor> hi everyone
[08:07] <rootlinuxusr> dependent on whether or not your processor supports emulation.
[08:07] <wildbat> theuros, all good except 3D graphic
[08:08] <noor> i just installed ubuntu 9.04
[08:08] <theuros> i have 1,5gb of ram .. how much run should give to windows and how much to ubuntu ?
[08:08] <Spank> im new to linux community and i have decided that ubuntu is a good distro for beginners :P
[08:08] <someonespecial> wildbat: apparmor logged it trying to peek
[08:08] <someonespecial> among a plethora of other things
[08:08] <someonespecial> skype is pure spyware
[08:08] <gmatt> i am trying to change the settings in my screen recorder software to get my mic to record audio, but i am unsure which device it is.  how can i find this out?
[08:08] <sam204475> Spank.... :D
[08:08] <Daijoubu> Ubuntu Lucid Roxxx o//
[08:08] <frankie_> !party
[08:08] <someonespecial> i think skype is breaking federal law
[08:08] <sam204475> Skype is spyware ?  really
[08:08] <noor> and i installed xammp but had propleme with making alias always give me 403 Access forbidden error
[08:08] <sam204475> why ? someonespecial?
[08:08] <wildbat> someonespecial, it try to steal /etc/passwd?XD
[08:09] <wildbat> did it touch shodow yet?XD
[08:09] <someonespecial> there was a law saying p2p programs cant ust open up peoples computers without telling them
[08:09] <wildbat> shadow*
[08:09] <sam204475> someone special... can i ask u something ?
[08:10] <someonespecial> wildbat: i dont know theres a loooong list its basically trying to acess everything
[08:10] <someonespecial> the profile that comes in the repos wouldnt let it work
[08:10] <someonespecial> sure ask me
[08:11] <sam204475> How many users of ubuntu live in america?  im british and skype is european.  i dont think its breaking any laws here.  if it causes you any problems why dont u just not use it??
[08:11] <someonespecial> skype doesnt come with ubuntu
[08:11] <sam204475> right...
[08:11] <sam204475> i know  but i like it ...
[08:11] <thrityfourfifty> is it really european?
[08:11] <sam204475> :D
[08:11] <sam204475> yeah
[08:11] <FloodBot4> sam204475: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:11] <someonespecial> i think skype is a usa inc
[08:11] <sam204475> its from europe.
[08:11] <sam204475> nope
[08:12] <gorski> i don't see 10.04 upgrade possibility in update manager, help?
[08:12] <thrityfourfifty> me too
[08:12] <wildbat> gorski, nope
[08:12] <sam204475> well your all thinking wrong. its european
[08:12] <markuss> update-manager -d
[08:12] <someonespecial> ubuntu comes from where obama comes from
[08:12] <gorski> when it will appear, please?
[08:12] <someonespecial> africa
[08:12] <wildbat> !lucid | gorski
[08:12] <sam204475> Estonian ~ thats where skype is from  estonia .
[08:12] <noor> does any one know how to make alias on xampp server it gives me error 403 , help !!
[08:12] <thrityfourfifty> true
[08:12] <thrityfourfifty> its european
[08:13] <thrityfourfifty> at least historically
[08:13] <sam204475> it still is
[08:13] <milkman> How long until 10.04 is out?
[08:13] <dominicdinada> ahhhh
[08:13] <someonespecial> skype is a usa inc i think though
[08:13] <theuros> at home i have some old computer with ubuntu server installed .. i'm not a linux guru so i just want to ask .. is there a simple way to test if my server config. is ok or has some security flaws ?
[08:13] <sam204475> just cos Ebay owns it now dont mean its american
[08:13] <sam204475> just like IBM is not American anymore. :D
[08:14] <thrityfourfifty> I dont think so - if you own sth - you own it - whereever it was before..
[08:14] <Collide[AwAy]> s
[08:14] <milkman> How long until 10.04 is out?
[08:15] <wildbat> !lucid | milkman
[08:15] <someonespecial> does anyone know of a way i can stop skype from scanning my whole computer
[08:16] <someonespecial> and still use it
[08:16] <daMull> someonespecial: don't use skype if it bothers you
[08:16] <daMull> someonespecial: use it in a virtual machine
[08:16] <thrityfourfifty> lol
[08:17] <andy112233> Thanks ubottu. Am curious whether half of the people here now switch to #ubuntu-release-party. :o)
[08:17] <someonespecial> well i have it on another computer
[08:17] <someonespecial> and on its own netwok so
[08:17] <someonespecial> i guess ill just let skype takeover the system
[08:17] <Kalidarn> if i've got the ubuntu dvd or kubuntu dvd media can i setup encrypted lvm with that, from memory you needed the 'alternate' cd.
[08:17] <jony_> can somebody tell me when it will be available the final version of 10.04?
[08:17] <Kalidarn> jony_: later today probably
[08:17] <Kalidarn> it's 7:14AM UTC
[08:18] <someonespecial> Kalidarn: what version i think 9.10 allows it
[08:18] <Kalidarn> yeah 9.10 or any version after that
[08:18] <someonespecial> then why did u ask
[08:18] <IlyaHaykinson_> Want to experience Lucid early? download the new Ubuntu Manual - http://ubuntu-manual.org -- and let us know what you think!
[08:18] <Kalidarn> someonespecial: thing you just have to kick it into the text installer which is an option on the boot menu
[08:18] <Kalidarn> i just wondered
[08:18] <someonespecial> u ask what u already know answers too?
[08:19] <Kalidarn> someonespecial: used to use the xubuntu alternate disk, but in 10.04 i won't be using xfce anymore as it uses more memory than gnome :P
[08:19] <someonespecial> the reason i use skype is because it is more reliable than the other voips
[08:19] <Kalidarn> someonespecial: true it'd be nice to see libjingle get more popular
[08:19] <iceroot> Kalidarn: use lubuntu-desktop, its great
[08:20] <wildbat> iceroot, how great?;p
[08:20] <dmarkey> when is 10.04 htting the mirrors?
[08:20] <someonespecial> just make sure you put skype on a blank systen
[08:20] <Kalidarn> iceroot: true i am considering lxde, only thing was i found it didn't play to well with resizing desktops in vmware
[08:20] <someonespecial> the whole thing is a trojan
[08:20] <someonespecial> but a damn useful trojan
[08:20] <thrityfourfifty> pidgin
[08:20] <wildbat> someonespecial, just run in a vm if you worry ;p
[08:20] <iceroot> wildbat: it has a nice usability (not like xfce4) and is using less ressources then xfce4
[08:20] <someonespecial> i bought a netbook to run it on
[08:20] <Kalidarn> thrityfourfifty: skype cannot be used with pidgin, it's proprietary
[08:21] <someonespecial> even a vm doesnt help
[08:21] <someonespecial> its like a wormhole to networks
[08:21] <thrityfourfifty> Kalidarn but there are other protocols that I would switch to if I find out that a chat program is scanning files in /etc
[08:21] <someonespecial> i put it on a netbook and run it on its own public ip
[08:21] <overmacht> !party
[08:21] <guillermo> ůИИЖóóóóôôôюş  »
[08:21] <Kalidarn> thrityfourfifty: i wasn't aware skype scanned files in /etc ?
[08:22] <zhouyu> !10.04
[08:22] <someonespecial> dont ever put skype behind a protected network
[08:22] <thrityfourfifty> someonespecial says os
[08:22] <thrityfourfifty> ^so
[08:22] <someonespecial> Kalidarn: run skype in apparmor complain mode and u can see everything it does
[08:22] <Kalidarn> someonespecial: interesting ill investigate this
[08:22] <someonespecial> its about 40 entries of files it shouldnt have acess too
[08:23] <thrityfourfifty> could you paste the entries in pastebin or sth?
[08:23] <Kalidarn> someonespecial: got any links to this?
[08:23] <thrityfourfifty> would be interesting
[08:24] <creative1412> guys is the ubuntu 10.04 got leaked like the isos?
[08:24] <wildbat> !lucid | creative1412
[08:24] <someonespecial> its on the netbook
[08:24] <m0RrE> !isitout
[08:24] <someonespecial> just try it
[08:25] <someonespecial> see for yourself
[08:25] <someonespecial> dont take my word for it
[08:25] <Remmaze> what is the command line to shut down an applications? example i want to quit transmission bit torrent?
[08:25] <yukiseaside> #ubuntu-release-party
[08:25] <someonespecial> im with the cia
[08:25] <thrityfourfifty> Remmaze pgreg <program name>
[08:25] <yohannbzh> Remmaze: do "ps -ax | grep torrent"
[08:25] <thrityfourfifty> kill <process id>
[08:25] <wildbat> Remmaze, kill <pid> or pkil<name>
[08:25] <Remmaze> ok thanx...
[08:25] <thrityfourfifty> pgrep up there
[08:26] <yohannbzh> Remmaze: and after "kill -9 <process_id>"
[08:26] <thrityfourfifty> not pgreg
[08:26] <thrityfourfifty> but dont use "-9" if you can avoid it for other programs, might be fine with torrent
[08:26] <ph0xide> in how many hours will be realesed?
[08:27] <DonkyManChong> so where thu fook is 10.04?
[08:27] <wildbat> p0bailey, 1000000000000hrs
[08:27] <wildbat> DonkyManChong, in you kitchen~
[08:27] <someonespecial> im with the IIA
[08:27] <DonkyManChong> more like in my toilet
[08:27] <someonespecial> individual inteligence agency
[08:27] <p0bailey> wildbat, ?
[08:28] <someonespecial> im a citizen too
[08:28] <someonespecial> so i said cia
[08:28] <someonespecial> citizen intelligence agency
[08:28] <thelostpatrol> heh they're spamming some kind of blog link in the release party channel
[08:28] <thelostpatrol> apparently you can dl 10.4 there
[08:28] <someonespecial> everyone should be a part of the iia
[08:29] <someonespecial> keep from having too many dumb people
[08:29] <someonespecial> gather intelligence for yourself
[08:29] <Jaredd33> yea
[08:29] <Jaredd33> where can you get it? whats this blog?
[08:29] <thrityfourfifty> did you find pastebin yet?
[08:29] <DonkyManChong> foo
[08:29] <DonkyManChong> they 2 days ole
[08:30] <thelostpatrol> yeah looks like the iso can be downloaded now from the pool
[08:31] <Jaredd33> wheres that
[08:31] <someonespecial> ok i need more halp, gimme some ubuntu, what port does gpg acces keyserver from
[08:31] <thelostpatrol> http://gravityfx.org/blog/2010/04/28/ubuntu-10-04-lts-final/
[08:31] <Nekobwaah> So I just installed 9.1.0, and upon trying to open the Package Manage, I get this: "E: The package linux-image-2.6.31-21-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it"
[08:31] <rww> Don't link to pool URLs, please. They're not necessarily final, and downloading from them slows down the release checklist.
[08:31] <someonespecial> because i have my firewall set to only allow web browsing
[08:31] <thelostpatrol> okay sorry
[08:31] <Nekobwaah> *Manager
[08:31] <someonespecial> please haaalp!
[08:31] <someonespecial> u good folks
[08:31] <pramod> yup...its up @ pool....u can download the iso....
[08:32] <leonardomdp> hello people
[08:32] <someonespecial> haaalp!
[08:32] <Jaredd33> awsome
[08:32] <DelphiWorld> hi all
[08:32] <someonespecial> what port does gpg acess ubuntu keyserver from?
[08:32] <Jaredd33> im downloading right now, thanks for the link
[08:32] <DelphiWorld> please i have 2 fe nic in my server
[08:32] <DelphiWorld> ubuntu 9.10
[08:32] <DelphiWorld> 1 for internet
[08:32] <DelphiWorld> 2 for backbone
[08:33] <DelphiWorld> if i add default gateway for 1 i can't access backbone but i can access internet
[08:33] <DelphiWorld> but if i add default gw to 2 i can't access internet and i can access backbone
[08:33] <DelphiWorld> any help?
[08:33] <leonardomdp> Lucid  Lynx release this for download now?
[08:34] <rww> ubottu: isitout | leonardomdp
[08:34] <leonardomdp> thanks friend :)
[08:35] <dotnetted> hey all - I have to manually run "ifdown" and "ifup" on my wireless interface (ra0) to get it working after every reboot - what's the best way to diagnose why it wont auto-start? (it's set as auto in /etc/network/interfaces))
[08:35] <someonespecial> lets try 11371 ftw
[08:36] <rshakin> hey ppl is there a way to revert the visual keyboard to a normal state
[08:36] <lucrus> does anybody know the GMT time for 10.4 release?
[08:37] <dotnetted> actually I guess ra0 does auto start - but it starts ignoring the wpa-* values in /etc/network/interfaces until I do a manual ifdown/ifup
[08:37] <rww> lucrus: there isn't one scheduled. an email will get sent to http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce when it's released, and this channel's /topic will be updated. You can also hang out in #ubuntu-release-party with others waiting :)
[08:38] <lucrus> rww, thanks
[08:39] <padi999> hi all
[08:39] <noor> want to give execution permission to group of files inside folder
[08:39] <playmo> Is Lucid Lynx out yet?
[08:39] <rshakin> no
[08:39] <playmo> When?
[08:39] <padi999> Desklets for ubuntu: What does exist? gDesklets are not really working in 10.4 ... aDesklets does not even install properly...
[08:39] <rww> ubottu: isitout | playmo
[08:40] <wildbat> Chan Op Shall set a rule for banning ppl who don't read topic
[08:40] <PaperBoy> guys  my  php user doesn't have access to system() or shell_exec()  how can i enabled this
[08:40] <rww> wildbat: unlikely
[08:41] <wildbat> rww, or and list kick them out ;p
[08:41] <friendforall> i need help with downloading a file and sending the file as DVD copy to me. someone to help me please?
[08:42] <rshakin> hey i need some kind of a good on screen keyboard
[08:42] <Rei-chan> friendforall, try explaining that question again?
[08:43] <someonespecial> ok does anyone need my halp anymore or else im outtie
[08:43] <friendforall> Rei-chan, can i pm you?
[08:43] <wildbat> someonespecial, later~
[08:44] <Rei-chan> I'm just going to type !pm or something, mate.
[08:45] <Rei-chan> Actually, friendforall, no one can PM me on Freenode. Please restate your question on the channel.
[08:46] <someonespecial> this really sucks
[08:47] <someonespecial> i deleted allow 8001 in ufw and reloaded and the connection stays established
[08:47] <friendforall> Rei-chan, My download speed only 10-15 kb. I need to download a file which size is 1.5 gb . If i try to download the file then i need 15-30 days. For this reason i need help from someone about sending the file to me. I can give him 5 $ as sending cost.
[08:47] <someonespecial> what a crock
[08:48] <Rei-chan> !off-topic
[08:48] <Rei-chan> Does this look like the channel for that?
[08:48] <Rei-chan> End of Line.
[08:48] <someonespecial> how can the connection stay open when ufw is supposed to be blocking it
[08:48] <PhilMather> Rei-chan: ok settle down.
[08:48] <someonespecial> file a bug that ufw wont break connections upon reload
[08:49] <someonespecial> what a puff
[08:49] <padi999> Is conky the sophisticated up-to-date way to use desklets?
[08:50] <someonespecial> dermoth: can u beleive thT
[08:50] <DonkyManChong> conky is an evil puppet
[08:51] <mateus> hello, how to know the time of release of lucid in my country?
[08:51] <someonespecial> when u reload ufw to block a port it will still allow it if the port was already active
[08:51] <DonkyManChong> the release is based one hour after the time zone to your left hits mid day + 8
[08:51] <moetunes> conky ftw!
[08:51] <someonespecial> aint that some stink
[08:51] <DonkyManChong> then you have to shake it all about
[08:52] <someonespecial> ufw fail!
[08:52] <gianiaz> hi, I'm looking for ubuntu 10.04, but on the site there's the link to 9.10... any news?
[08:52] <someonespecial> 10.04 is beta
[08:52] <moetunes> gianiaz: it'll be out later today
[08:53] <gianiaz> moetunes, ok, thank you
[08:53] <gianiaz> :-)
[08:53] <moetunes> :]
[08:54] <gianiaz> maybe doy you know the time? :P
[08:54] <wildbat> too much 10.04 attack my screen~ going to rest m eyes~ later ppl ~
[08:54] <gianiaz> I have a 8.10... I'm waiting from about a month and I am impatient
[08:55] <moetunes> !isitout > gianiaz
[08:55] <gianiaz> thank you again :-)
[08:55] <moetunes> heh
[08:56] <DJones> gianiaz: Are you going to upgrade or reinstall, if you're upgrading and on 8.10, you'll need to upgrade through 9.04 & 9.10 before you can upgrade to Lucid, upgrade to Lucid is only from 8.04 which was the previous LTS and from 9.10
[08:57] <dominicdinada> hmmm
[08:57] <halphass> hi everybody!
[08:58] <AlexJ[CS]> hello...
[08:58] <halphass> excuse me, but where is 10.04? I must to wait or I can install the release candidate?
[08:58] <dominicdinada> lol
[08:58] <AlexJ[CS]> any ideea when final ISO will be released?
[08:58] <dominicdinada> check the website
[08:58] <moetunes> !isitout
[08:58] <gianiaz> DJones, I think a will do a format
[08:58] <gianiaz> and then isntall 10.04
[08:59] <DJones> gianiaz: No worries then, I just had a vision of you being disappointed when it was released and not being able to upgrade directly without the earlier upgrade
[09:01] <gianiaz> DJones, :-)
[09:01] <GodricBrutus> having some MPD issues I was hoping someone could help me with please. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9191152
[09:02] <stodorovic> Apt-get tells me "Reinstallation of linux-rtl8187se-modules is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"  -- why can it not be downloaded?
[09:03] <moetunes> stodorovic: which ubuntu version?
[09:03] <stodorovic> moetunes: 8.10
[09:03] <dominicdinada> !pastebin
[09:04] <moetunes> stodorovic: does   apt-cache search linux-rtl8187se-modules   return anything?
[09:04] <ks> hi guys,
[09:04] <ks> I am unable to find "menu.lst" in /boo/grub directory. But everything works fine for me....plz help someone...i wanna edit the menu.lst
[09:04] <arand> !grub2 | ks
[09:04] <ks> yes
[09:04] <ks> grup2
[09:04] <Tauop> bonjour tout le monde. j'ai une kubuntu Karmic sur mon netbook nc10, et lorsque je veux configurer un second écran, il me met le même affichage sur l'écran externe et l'écran du netbook
[09:04] <moetunes> !fr
[09:04] <arand> ks: It doesn't use a menu.lst
[09:05] <Tauop> oups moetunes
[09:05] <stodorovic> moetunes: it does. "linux-rtl8187se-modules  - RTL8187SE WLAN drivers"
[09:05] <moetunes> heh
[09:05] <Tauop> moetunes: thx :)
[09:05] <Name141> Hello, why are some updates 'held back' and not upgraded when I do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ? such as  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[09:05] <ks> tnx arand
[09:05] <Tauop> moetunes: just make a mistake while joining
[09:05] <Name141> Is it possible for me to make them go ahead and upgrade from the shell ?
[09:05] <DonkyManChong> let me guess today is the year of linux on the desktop
[09:05] <Name141> (or 'terminal' )
[09:05] <alessandro_> ciao stanza
[09:06] <alessandro_> allora è arrivato ubuntu 10.10?ù
[09:06] <arand> Name141: Likely the packages might not be properly published on the mirror yet...
[09:06] <moetunes> stodorovic: done an   apt-get update lately?
[09:06] <arand> !it | AllYourBases
[09:06] <arand> !it | alessandro_
[09:06] <arand> AllYourBases: sorry, miss-nick
[09:06] <stodorovic> moetunes: yesterday. but i will run it again just to be sure
[09:06] <ks> Arand, Thank you....i will try the rest with google
[09:07] <moetunes> k
[09:07] <stodorovic> moetunes: maybe i created the package manually (more than a year ago) ?
[09:07] <stodorovic> how can I tell what the install source was?
[09:07] <mikem> hi, does anyone know why my custom .fdi files are not working? under Karmic they lived in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
[09:07] <Name141> arand: I'm logging in to the GUI after turning it's monitor on and all that.  And I open up update manager, and there they are to install.
[09:08] <moetunes> stodorovic: that could explain it - it would show in local in synaptic iirc
[09:08] <GodricBrutus> I'm not trying to be a smart @#% or anything, but can anyone here see what i'm typing? I've been ignored in here for the past 6 hours, no matter what i say
[09:08] <ikonia> GodricBrutus: yes
[09:08] <stodorovic> moetunes: :( i need to find a way to compile the new drivers... but I no longer have a reference on the source of the drivers
[09:08] <noor> hi , i installed xammp on ubuntu it works great but when i made alias every time i try to access this alias it gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/424461/
[09:09] <GodricBrutus> ikonia, ok. just making sure
[09:09] <Name141> arand: downloading as we speak through the upgrade manager.
[09:09] <Name141> why wouldn't it just update it over SSH?
[09:09] <Name141> (and get it over with)
[09:09] <Ruscour1> out yet?
[09:09] <sam204475> Whats Launchpad～～～
[09:09] <moetunes> stodorovic: I don't do wireless sorry - you didn't keep the original source?
[09:09] <ikonia> noor: xammp is it's own self contained platform and not really relevant to ubuntu, you should look at lamp, or use xammp support
[09:09] <ikonia> !lamp | noor
[09:10] <DonkyManChong> cool story, bro
[09:10] <noor> ikonia : ty
[09:10] <ikonia> DonkyManChong: follow the topic in this channel
[09:10] <DonkyManChong> blow me asshole
[09:10] <plum> where can i figure out where my drives are?
[09:10] <plum> like a path to them
[09:10] <stodorovic> moetunes: i do have the orig source code but it doesn;t seem to work - too flaky. was hoping to upgrade kernel >= 2.6.29 as apparently that driver was merged into drivers/staging/ on that release
[09:10] <Eddie_6> plum: sudo fdisk -l
[09:11] <ikonia> plum: "drives" work differently than in windows, can you give me an overview to what you want to do ?
[09:11] <plum> ah sorry i misworded, but i found them, they are in /media
[09:11] <plum> ikonia: i'm trying to link my music folder in ubuntu to my windows music folder since that's my main OS
[09:11] <moetunes> stodorovic: you could upgrade to a newer ubuntu or get a newer kernel from kernel.org
[09:12] <ikonia> plum: ok, so you want to create a simlink or "shortcut" to your windows driver music folder
[09:12] <rob__944> Is there a way to disable the 'waiting' cursor? It's kind of annoying, because when I open Firefox or Open a file with Audacious it keeps waiting for about 10 seconds, even if the application is loaded withing a sec. (Using Karmic with Gnome)
[09:12] <stodorovic> moetunes: yes. both options seem rather painful under a distro as restrictive as Ubuntu :/ I'll give it a go though
[09:12] <plum> ikonia: that's correct, i assume ln -s /path-to-linux-music /path-to-windows-music would do it?
[09:13] <speakman> hi folks. How do I do "apt pinning" for a certein PPA repository?
[09:13] <ikonia> plum: you may have to do "-sf" to replace an existing folder
[09:13] <ikonia> plum: but yes, spot on, well done
[09:13] <moetunes> stodorovic: or google for a newer driver and rebuild maybe...
[09:13] <plum> hmm... ikonia i am having a little problem though, i look in /media and Windows 7 is there but it has a space in the name.
[09:13] <plum> how would i link it to there?
[09:13] <plum> from terminal
[09:14] <stodorovic> moetunes: which will break next time the ubuntu kernel is upgraded :(
[09:14] <ikonia> plum: escape characters, eg: ln -s /path_to_linux /path\ to\ windows
[09:14] <igni> goodmorning
[09:14] <Eddie_6> plum: THats's the wrong way around!!!
[09:14] <marienz> plum: tab completion usually does the right thing for those too
[09:14] <plum> ooh awesome
[09:14] <plum> thanks guys, i'll try it
[09:14] <marienz> plum: that is: ln -s /path_to_linux /media/Win<tab>
[09:14] <igni> is anyone else experiencing problems with nvidia/compiz since the new 2.6.31 kernel update???
[09:14] <moetunes> stodorovic: or you could add a line to /etc/modules for it
[09:14] <marienz> plum: err, other way around :)
[09:14] <sam204475> hey I have a qestion~  im using 10.04 right now,  so tonight when it is officially out. can i just upgrade it?
[09:15] <plum> ikonia: and you said to make it ln -sf, correct?
[09:15] <plum> just trying to make sure
[09:15] <ikonia> plum: if you're replacing an existing directory, yes
[09:15] <stodorovic> moetunes: how would that help? :) modprobe / depmod would do that for me
[09:15] <yohannbzh> Hi. I'm trying to get Flash Player 10 for my firefox but when I install adobe-flashplugin and run firefox, it is always the version 9 that I have. What can I do? (I have firefox 3.0.19)
[09:16] <moetunes> stodorovic: it would still be there after a kernel upgrade - <stodorovic> moetunes: which will break next time the ubuntu kernel is upgraded :(
[09:16] <veloxid> hello all
[09:16] <veloxid> i do have some problems with the speed stepping in ubuntu 10.4
[09:16] <Ujjwol> Guys, is there any automated way to separated TrueType and OpenType fonts from a large font folder ?
[09:17] <stodorovic> moetunes: it might not load given that the symbols could have changed
[09:17] <veloxid> it always runs on full speed and does not step down anymore
[09:17] <Mandrew> hiya ppl
[09:17] <Mandrew> at what time do they release the 10.04?
[09:17] <working_> don't think there's a definite ETA on that aside from "today" which isn't stopping me from madly mashing f5 >_<
[09:18] <Ruscour7> Mandrew: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[09:18] <gitedit> hi guys, a quick question, is there any keyboard layout editor for ubuntu?
[09:18] <Termana> The time that they will release it is called release time. When it becomes release o'clock, it will be released
[09:18] <moetunes> stodorovic: that could be the case with any driver you build yes - best bet is to get a later kernel than yours
[09:18] <working_> i like that, release 'o clock
[09:18] <Mandrew> thanks Ruscour7
[09:18] <igni> am i the only one experiencing problems with nvidia/compiz after updating to the new version of the 2.6.31 kernel?
[09:18] <plum> well that's confusing... it's not working and not displaying anything
[09:18] <plum> i will try again tomorrow, it's too late at night for me right now
[09:18] <plum> thanks though :)
[09:18] <gitedit> hi guys, a quick question, is there any keyboard layout editor for ubuntu?
[09:18] <veloxid> some one can help me? i dont have any idea how to fix the problem with the speed stepping
[09:19] <stodorovic> moetunes: true. though it means faffing about with initrd and it would be a manual process - what happens when next time apt-get upgrade is run and it installs the "official" kernel and sets it as the default?
[09:19] <plum> see you guys later
[09:19] <pschulz01> Is it out yet?
[09:20] <tech_> hey guys, i need a bit of help, ubuntu 10.04 is released today, but i cant upgrade it in the update manager, and the website only has the beta verions.... any suggestions?
[09:20] <Ruscour7> it's not out yet
[09:20] <moetunes> stodorovic: that's one of the pains of using non ubuntu stuff - you could edit grub to use your kernel as the default
[09:20] <gitedit> hi guys, a quick question, is there any keyboard layout editor for ubuntu?
[09:20] <Rei-chan> If you'd like to find out when 10.04 is going to come out, join #ubuntu-release-party. When it comes out, it'll be announced there.
[09:21] <jony_> anybody knows when it will be available the finl version of 10.04?
[09:21] <stodorovic> moetunes: indeed. Also I thought apt modifies grub's menu
[09:21] <brah-> Rei-chan no pre-known release date?
[09:21] <Ruscour7> today
[09:21] <Ruscour7> !outyet
[09:21] <stodorovic> it already is the 29th :)
[09:21] <tech_> okay, thanks guys
[09:21] <brah-> gonna be a real party if the update breaks somthin :\
[09:21] <gitedit> fuckin wankers :s
[09:21] <Jaredd33> you can downlaod lucid now
[09:21] <Jaredd33> http://gravityfx.org/blog/2010/04/28/ubuntu-10-04-lts-final/
[09:22] <Jaredd33> go there ^
[09:22] <moetunes> stodorovic: it does - it would be an ongoing process iirc - or you could just not do a full update && upgrade
[09:22] <Jaredd33> its available right now
[09:22]  * Rei-chan sighs.
[09:22] <moetunes> !isitout
[09:22] <Jaredd33> ?
[09:23] <Jaredd33> moetunes its released
[09:23] <Jaredd33> its out now
[09:23] <stodorovic> moetunes: that might have to be the resulting plan. this netbook has no optical drive so will need to setup netboot.
[09:23] <Jaredd33> im downloading it right now
[09:23] <Rei-chan> Jaredd33, are you sure you're not suggesting DLing a release candidate?
[09:23] <kelvinella> how to use ubuntu software center??
[09:23] <Jaredd33> positive
[09:23] <Jaredd33> http://gravityfx.org/blog/2010/04/28/ubuntu-10-04-lts-final/
[09:23] <Jaredd33> go look
[09:23] <moetunes> Jaredd33: not by ubuntu it isn't
[09:23] <kelvinella> i choose emesene but then there is no button for me to press to install??
[09:23] <Jaredd33> well its on there mirrors
[09:24] <Jaredd33> some websites already have the iso on there ftp's
[09:24] <moetunes> stodorovic: there's unetbootin for installing from usb if that helps
[09:24] <frojnd> hello there. I don't know what I did wrong while trying to burn .iso RC to an usb, but when rebooting I got message: No operating system available. How I burn the rc: sudo dd if=/home/frojnd/MultiMedija/Filmi/ubuntu-10.04-rc-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb before I made a 1000MB partition with cfdisk. And before that I've made ext4 this new partition like this: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 What I can't boot into relase candidate?
[09:24] <rob__418> Is there a command to rename all files in a directory to random names?
[09:24] <rww> Jaredd33: That blog entry links to non-final ISOs used for internal mirror syncing, and downloading from there will 1) not get you a final ISO because there is no final ISO yet, 2) contribute to slowing down mirror syncing and thus the actual release.
[09:24] <Mandrew> link it plz Jaredd33
[09:24] <Rei-chan> typ, rww.
[09:24] <Rei-chan> ty, even.
[09:25] <Mateo0169> You can get the RC and upgrade it too ^^ the diffs beetween RC and final are minor
[09:25] <Rei-chan> YOu're just downloading the RC version, people. And slowing my internets down.
[09:25] <Jaredd33> no
[09:25] <veloxid> what can i do if the kernel module acpi-cpufreq is not loaded? how can i fix the prob?
[09:25] <rww> Jaredd33: Yes.
[09:25] <Jaredd33> this isnt the RC
[09:25] <kelvinella> hello how to install software in ubuntu software center???
[09:25] <kelvinella> THERE is no button to press
[09:25] <Jaredd33> well iall know once ive downloaded
[09:26] <rww> kelvinella: If memory serves, it's an arrow button on the right side of the window
[09:26] <rww> Jaredd33: You'll download a prerelease ISO that identifies as final release just like the RC does.
[09:26] <kelvinella> rww, i clicked that arrow already, but still no install button
[09:26] <simion314> hi, i forgot the name of the package that nstalls the development tools, something like base-dev or base-devel , and i can't find it with synaptic
[09:26] <rww> simion314: build-essential
[09:26] <kelvinella> rww,  nothing happening
[09:26] <frojnd> veloxid: probably u load it by sourself but first if you really know the name of this module try: lsgmo | grep acpi-cpufreq
[09:26] <Jaredd33> ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[09:26] <rww> kelvinella: weird. I don't use that program much, so I have no idea then. Sorry :(
[09:27] <frojnd> veloxid: paradon, lsmod | grep acpi-cpufreq
[09:27] <rww> Jaredd33: Do not link to mirror sync pool ISOs in this channel.
[09:27] <kelvinella> rww, i think i will just use the sudo apt-get install
[09:27] <moetunes> simion314: build-essential ?
[09:27] <simion314> rww: thx,
[09:27] <rww> kelvinella: yeah, that's what I do :)
[09:27] <Jaredd33> i dont get it
[09:27] <Prabz> Hi, Is the new ubuntu available?
[09:27] <Kartagis> hello
[09:27] <rww> Jaredd33: I just explained it to you.
[09:27] <rww> ubottu: isitout | Prabz
[09:27] <frojnd> Jaredd33: so it's already out official?
[09:27] <\shade\> build-essential
[09:27] <frojnd> where is the torrent?????
[09:28] <rww> frojnd: No, it's not out, and there is no torrent.
[09:28] <simion314> moetunes: yes, thx , base-devel is it's name in arch,
[09:28] <Kartagis> on a student's ubuntu installation, xorg.conf doesn't exit
[09:28] <Kartagis> exist*
[09:28] <frojnd> rww: when will be out?
[09:28] <tp43> kelvinella, I just tried it, it works, maybe you need to scroll to the install button
[09:28] <rww> frojnd: Sometime on the 29th.
[09:28] <Kartagis> how is this possible?
[09:28] <frojnd> rww: no hours  countdown?
[09:28] <rww> frojnd: there isn't a set time
[09:28] <liuyi>  你好
[09:28] <frojnd> rww: k
[09:28] <ptux> hi ubuntuists..
[09:29] <Kartagis> !cn | liuyi
[09:29] <rww> Kartagis: xorg.conf is no longer created by default; Xorg autodetects instead. If you create one, it will use settings in it instead of autodetecting them.
[09:29] <frojnd> rww: about my problem do you happen to know why I can't burn the iso to an usb?
[09:29] <moetunes> Kartagis: it is done automatically now - the log /var/logXorg.0.log will show what it does - but you can make one with Xorg -configure
[09:29] <Kartagis> rww, what I want to do is change the resolution
[09:29] <kelvinella> tp43 there is no scrow bar
[09:29] <anylake> why #gstreamer :Cannot send to channel
[09:29] <moetunes> Kartagis: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:29] <frojnd> rww: wrong question, why when booting the usb get message that no operating sysem available
[09:29] <rww> anylake: probably because you're not identified to nickserv
[09:29] <ptux> when the new 10.04 will be out?
[09:30] <rww> ptux: sometime on the 29th
[09:30] <liuyi> ytyt
[09:30] <liuyi> 谢谢
[09:30] <kelvinella> tp43, there is still no install button
[09:30] <ptux> so it's almost coming rww ?
[09:30] <ptux> ok
[09:30] <anylake> how to change nickname
[09:30] <rww> frojnd: Ubuntu ISOs don't work with that dd procedure. If you have an existing Ubuntu installation, use usb-creator (System -> Administration -> Create USB Startup Disk (or similar)); if not, use unetbootin
[09:30] <tp43> kelvinella, you got some screenshots?
[09:31] <Prabz> ubottu: isitout | ptux
[09:31] <DaBOSS> not more precise that sometimes on the 29th? no usual time canonical releases ?
[09:31] <kelvinella> tp43, wait
[09:31] <rww> ptux: correct
[09:31] <rww> DaBOSS: There isn't a set time, no.
[09:31] <DaBOSS> thank you so much
[09:31] <DaBOSS> will join the #ubuntu-release-party channel as advised then
[09:31] <frojnd> rww: aha so I need unetbootin
[09:31] <Kartagis> moetunes, it doesn't let me do it, I think it's because X is running?
[09:32] <frojnd> rww: but why wont this method work it's by far the easiest and quicker :|
[09:32] <moetunes> Kartagis: yep - you need to kill X and then do it
[09:32] <DaBOSS> if I upgrade from 9.10 will it keep my emerald theme or force install the new default theme with left side windows buttons?
[09:32] <DaBOSS> @rww thank you
[09:32] <cirera> hey I have a ubuntu 32 bits with 6gb of ram, but only detects 3gb, i search in google and founs some info about install the ubuntu-server headers, I instal those packages and restart the machine but still with 3gb
[09:33] <rww> frojnd: I'm not sure of the details, but it's something that needs to be set up properly in the ISO and Ubuntu's aren't, unfortunately.
[09:33] <cirera> any idea?
[09:33] <rww> frojnd: unetbootin is downloadable from http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ or from several Linux distros' repositories, btw.
[09:33] <moetunes> Kartagis: which version of ubuntu for the right command to kill X
[09:33] <rww> cirera: which version of Ubuntu (9.10, 9.04, etc.) are you using?
[09:34] <kelvinella> tp43, http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8711/screenshotku.png
[09:34] <elnur> Is there something like Dia but more sophisticated?
[09:34] <cirera> rww, and old 8.10
[09:34] <Kartagis> moetunes, 9.10
[09:34] <noor> how could i get the password of root ???
[09:34] <Kartagis> moetunes, I tried to kill gdm-binary but it restarted instead of dying
[09:34] <m0RrE> noor: boot in single user mode
[09:34] <m0RrE> "recovery mode" in grub
[09:34] <moetunes> Kartagis: ctrl+alt+f2   and   sudo service gdm stop   iirc
[09:34] <rww> cirera: you need to install linux-server (the kernel image itself), not just the headers
[09:35] <oddy> any news?
[09:35] <noor> m0RrE what if i want to change it
[09:35] <rww> cirera: Be aware that 1) 8.10 becomes unsupported on April 30th, so you should upgrade rather soon, 2) Ubuntu 9.10 and newer have linux-generic-pae
[09:35] <rww> oddy: on?
[09:35] <oddy> rww: the new release
[09:35] <progre55> hi people! how do you get a jmv dump?
[09:36] <noor> m0RrE: i just installed my ubuntu but i had peopleme with permissions in apache
[09:36] <cirera> ok, thx rww i'm gonna check that
[09:36] <rww> oddy: It's coming out sometime on the 29th, there's no set time, announcement of release will be posted in #ubuntu-release-party, http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce, and this channel's /topic
[09:36] <kromix> #ubuntu-dk
[09:36] <Kartagis> moetunes, thanks, trying that now
[09:36] <kromix> join #ubuntu-dk
[09:36] <oddy> isn't today the 29th?
[09:36] <moetunes> oddy: all day it is
[09:36] <rww> oddy: in most timezones, yes.
[09:36] <Prabz> ubottu: isitout | oddy
[09:37] <oddy> isitout
[09:37] <oddy> ubottu: isitout
[09:37] <oddy> :(
[09:37] <kelvinella> tp43, weird after i ran sudo apt-get update, then run ubuntu software center again, i got the install button
[09:37] <tp43> kelvinella, wierd, try going into admin->software sources
[09:37] <oddy> ubottu: isitout | Prabz
[09:37] <oddy> :D
[09:37] <Guest60663> hi guys i have a problem how do u use ubuntu one how do you put file on that directory pls help me
[09:37] <Prabz> oddy u need to add the id of the person
[09:37] <Prabz> :D
[09:37] <moetunes> oddy: you need a ! in front
[09:37] <oddy> ubuntu: !isitout
[09:37] <kelvinella> tp43, is there a bug or what?
[09:37] <oddy> lol
[09:37] <oddy> ubottu: !isitout
[09:37] <Pearlan> \join #ubuntu-release-party
[09:37] <rww> moetunes: "ubottu: factoidname" works fine, actually
[09:37] <Prabz> ubottu: !isitout
[09:37] <oddy> ah well, bye bye
[09:37] <tp43> kelvinella, Hno, you just need to get your sources in order
[09:38] <moetunes> rww: it didn't for oddy then
[09:38] <rww> ubotu just refuses to repeat factoids overly often.
[09:38] <Guest60663> hi guys i have a problem how do u use ubuntu one how do you put file on that directory pls help me
[09:38] <moetunes> k
[09:38] <kelvinella> tp43, but should the software center do that automatically?
[09:39] <kelvinella> tp43, that will be not user friendly for a beginner
[09:39] <rww> Guest60663: Setting up Ubuntu One should make an Ubuntu One folder in your home folder. You can just drag and drop files into it to sync them.
[09:39] <kelvinella> i guess i will just stick with the sudo apt-get install method or the synaptic
[09:40] <Guest60663> ok thx
[09:41] <arvind_khadri> hi, my karmic machine drops to initramfs, with unable to mount sys and other things...also says unable to find /sbin/init
[09:42] <moetunes> arvind_khadri: is it an initrd you built?
[09:42] <tp43> kelvinella, go into admin->software sources and do it there if you rather
[09:42] <arvind_khadri> moetunes, nope
[09:42] <moetunes> k
[09:42] <dotnet67> I just rebooted Ubuntu 9.1 (which was working fine and hadp  - no changes apart from editing /etc/network/interfaces) and now Ubuntu won't boot up - I'm getting "ACPI: I/O resource piix4_smbus conflicts with ACPI region SOR1" - any ideas appreciated
[09:44] <dotnet67> it gave me a root shell - after checking my /data partition mount it's no longer mounted..
[09:44] <silverrocker> When is ubuntu 10.04 comming?
[09:44] <buckybit> hello fellow ubuntus - official 10.4 release today at noon? anyone knows?
[09:44] <silverrocker> gmt +?
[09:45] <kiku4you> Ubuntu What time will be downloaded
[09:45] <moetunes> !isitout
[09:45] <rww> kiku4you, silverrocker, buckybit: It'll be released sometime on the 29th. There is no set time.
[09:45] <kiku4you> Ubuntu 10.04 What time will be downloaded
[09:45] <buckybit> rww, thx for the update #ubuntu-release-party it is :)
[09:46] <silverrocker> ok thx bye
[09:46] <moetunes> I think the #ubuntu-release-party is a good idea
[09:46] <rww> keeps #ubuntu from being absolutely swamped :)
[09:46] <buckybit> toter_Bayer, haha awesome name :)
[09:46] <kiku4you> Ubuntu What time will be downloaded . time in netherlands
[09:47] <rww> kiku4you: There is no scheduled time. It'll be released for download when it's done.
[09:47] <Kartagis> how do I log into no X?
[09:48] <buckybit> have a great day guys /quit
[09:48] <moetunes> Kartagis: ctrl+alt+f2   and then the normal login proceedure
[09:48] <moetunes> Kartagis: tho it will be cli
[09:49] <nucc1> anybody know what time in UTC lucid will be released? :p
[09:49] <rww> nucc1: Sometime on the 29th. There is no set time.
[09:49] <Prabz> It's OUT!!!
[09:49] <dagon_> it's always a surprise :)
[09:49] <nucc1> rww, its 29th here :d
[09:49] <Prabz> No not really.. :)
[09:49] <lenon> no it's not out.
[09:50] <rww> ubottu: tell ckw|away about away
[09:50] <twiztid> how would i go about adding the command, 'sudo service grub-common start' to the startup sequence?
[09:50] <kiku4you> :-*Ubuntu What time will be downloaded . time in netherlands:-*
[09:50] <ckw|away> ...
[09:50] <nucc1> ubottu, tell nucc1 about away
[09:50] <kiku4you> Ubuntu What time will be downloaded . time in netherland
[09:50] <Charbax> Did they announce what time it is out?
[09:51] <rww> ubottu: tell twiztid about boot
[09:51] <ckw|away> sheesh, calm down rww; I just needed something temporary.  Would you have prefered me switch to ckwalsh_? :S
[09:51] <rww> Charbax: It'll be released sometime on the 29th. There isn't a set time.
[09:51] <mikem> hi, it seems last.fm support (scrobbling) is missing from Audacious in Lucid. this plugin used to be in audacious-plugins-extra in karmic, but that package isn't available for me with apt-get install. anyone know how to get it?
[09:51] <AnxiousNut> linux key logger is giving me errors when "sudo lkl -l -k /usr/share/rdesktop/keymaps/en-us -o file"
[09:51] <nucc1> anyways, you can always just install the RC and then apt-get update laters
[09:51] <Prabz> ubottu: tell Prabz about boot
[09:51] <Kin`Away> buongiorno a tutti
[09:51] <kelvinella> how to make ubuntu use less memory?  the laptop only has like 233 MB of ram
[09:52] <nucc1> kelvinella, use XFCE desktop
[09:52] <rww> ubottu: it | Kin`Away
[09:52] <RedNifre> Hey hey!
[09:52] <Prabz> hahah nice
[09:52] <kelvinella> nucc1, xubuntu?
[09:52] <nucc1> kelvinella, yeap.
[09:52] <dagon_> or an alternate install and then icewm
[09:52] <kelvinella> nucc1, can i just sudo apt-get install xubuntu?
[09:52] <nucc1> kelvinella, or even ubuntu. just install "xfce-desktop" i think, then logout, and select XFCE as your session when logging in
[09:52] <rww> kelvinella: xubuntu-desktop, but yes
[09:53] <nucc1> kelvinella, sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop
[09:53] <kelvinella> xubuntu-desktop or xfce desktop?
[09:53] <rww> nucc1: xfce-desktop isn't a package.
[09:54] <nucc1> kelvinella, my synaptic is busy atm, so i can't check. but use search. you should recognise it when you see it.
[09:54] <kelvinella> nucc1, i am also updating atm, so i will try it after the update
[09:54] <nucc1> kelvinella, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:54] <rww> kelvinella: Xubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative that uses Xfce4 instead of Gnome. Installing the xubuntu-desktop package will install Xubuntu. Installing the xfce4 package will install a fairly vanilla version of xfce.
[09:54] <nucc1> ok, ^^
[09:54] <kelvinella> whats vanilla version?
[09:55] <kelvinella> nothing to do with ice-cream right?
[09:55] <rww> kelvinella: "vanilla" means plain or unchanged
[09:55] <nucc1> kelvinella, he he. just means exactly what the XFCE developers ship.
[09:55] <tmukmkd> izzit lubuntu version will come out in 10.04 too?
[09:55] <nucc1> kelvinella, non-vanilla means it includes xubuntu customizations
[09:55] <kelvinella> so which one is better?
[09:56] <maroxe> salut
[09:56] <nucc1> nucc1, i'd say the xubuntu folks customisations should be nice to have.
[09:56] <maroxe> j'utilise ubuntu lucid lynx(la derniere version)
[09:56] <nucc1> !fr
[09:56] <kraut> moin
[09:56] <maroxe> pour me connecter, j'uutilise le driver ueagle pour mon modem USB
[09:56] <maroxe> je me connecte a internet sans probleme
[09:56] <maroxe> seulement
[09:56] <nucc1> !fr maroxe
[09:56] <rww> tmukmkd: Yes, there will be a Lubuntu version for 10.04. It hasn't been decided yet whether it'll be official or a testing version.
[09:56] <maroxe> network-manager ne reconnait pas maconnexion
[09:57] <nucc1> !fr
[09:57] <maroxe> sorry
[09:57] <eipi-1> hi, everytime i start assaultcube it takes couple of seconds and X freezes. I can play the newer Cube 2 (Sauerbraten) without issues. Main Problem is, I dont even get an error i could search for? Where could I look for some logs to get infos about freezing X? graphiccard is intel GMA HD (Core i5)
[09:57] <tmukmkd> rww thanks for the info :D
[09:57] <nucc1> maroxe, allez au #ubuntu-fr
[09:58] <pawe> someone from Poland?
[09:58] <moetunes> eipi-1: is there a file in your home folder .Xsession-errors?
[09:59] <rww> eipi-1: ~/.xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:59] <rww> pawe: Try #ubuntu-pl
[10:00] <twiztid> so i just add             sudo service grub-common start                  to the end of /etc/rc.local? will it ask for the sudo password?
[10:00] <eipi-1> moetunes, rww, no .Xsession-errors, no updates in Xorg.0.log
[10:00] <lenon> ja jestem from polannd
[10:00] <gmatt> has anybody been successful with Wine+EVE Online?  nobody's answering in #winehq
[10:00] <moetunes> eipi-1: it is .xsession-errors sorry
[10:00] <Anonymous22> Hi
[10:00] <StephenLinux> Hi
[10:00] <lenon> hello.
[10:00] <neglesaks> heya
[10:00] <Guest42889> hello
[10:01] <StephenLinux> what time is lucid released?
[10:01] <rww> StephenLinux: Sometime on the 29th. There isn't a set time.
[10:01] <bp0> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2249
[10:01] <StephenLinux> cool, been running the alphas etc. looking forward
[10:01] <bp0> ^eve online
[10:01] <cvrse> is XChat-GNOME the irc client people are using these days or something else?
[10:01] <Guest42889> 大家下午好
[10:01] <rww> cvrse: I prefer xchat to xchat-gnome and use irssi personally.
[10:01] <lenon> StephenLinux: just keep refreshing this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/ :)
[10:01] <twiztid> im using chatzilla add on for firefox
[10:02] <eipi-1> rww, sorry didn't read it correct.
[10:02] <cvrse> rww: thx i'll check it out
[10:02] <StephenLinux> ubuntu is not a democracy, its a meritocracy. Just as well lol
[10:02] <gmatt> cvrse - irssi or weechat
[10:02] <eipi-1> moetunes, rww, guess thats what i was looking for. thx
[10:02] <bp0> is there a non-gnome xchat?
[10:02] <rww> ubottu: cn | Guest42889
[10:02] <rww> bp0: xchat-gnome is xchat with changes to make it use gnome's configuration backend and conform more to gnome's human interface guidelines
[10:03] <rww> xchat itself works fine in gnome
[10:03] <bp0> heh, so is the xchat package in ubuntu that one?
[10:03] <bp0> must be eh?
[10:03] <rww> bp0: "xchat" in the repositories is normal (imho superior) xchat. "xchat-gnome" is the gnome-ified one.
[10:03] <Anonymous22> Any way to mplab in linux wiy
[10:03] <Anonymous22> Without wine *
[10:04] <linda_> hello everyone
[10:04] <bp0> can both be run at the same time to compare?
[10:04] <bp0> xchat vs xchat-gnome
[10:04] <rww> no idea, I haven't tried
[10:04] <StephenLinux> is crossover any better at running windows apps than wine, or is it essentially the same with a better GUI?
[10:04] <linda_> Anonymous22,  do u mean matlab software
[10:04] <nomp> anyone here is using clamav??
[10:04] <twiztid> how would i execute  'sudo service grub-common start' at startup so the recordfail resets and the next grub boot obays my grub.conf?
[10:04] <Anonymous22> Y
[10:04] <bp0> StephenLinux, same with better gui and bottles
[10:05] <Anonymous22> No I mean pic programming software
[10:05] <linda_> Anonymous22,  was the Y for me
[10:05] <chenyuanjun> i love you ubuntu
[10:05] <StephenLinux> will stick with wine CLI then :)
[10:05] <Anonymous22> How do! ?
[10:05] <lenon> let's not get carried away, Stephen. :)
[10:05] <chenyuanjun> ubuntu10.04正式版出了没？
[10:05] <bp0> and crossover has some special application support
[10:06] <lenon> *<chenyuanjun
[10:06] <twiztid> anyone? how would i execute 'sudo service grub-common start' at startup so the recordfail resets and the next grub boot obays my grub.conf?
[10:06] <rww> ubottu: cn | chenyuanjun
[10:06] <lenon> ok, have fun guys.
[10:07] <rww> twiztid: put "service grub-common start" in /etc/rc.local. I imagine there's a smarter way of doing it, but that should work at least.
[10:07] <rww> twiztid: (stuff in rc.local is run with administrative privileges anyway, so you don't need the sudo)
[10:07] <brontosaurusrex> any guesses why h.264 would play slowly in chromium, while it plays fine with mplayer, aren't they using the same ffmpeg libs?
[10:08] <brontosaurusrex> video
[10:08] <linda_> hmmm i think rc version of ubuntu is ok to use as a main distro
[10:08] <brakkvatn> Hey. I have an odd problem. I installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix on my netbook. I then installed xubuntu-desktop to get xfce. But when I log in to xfce I still get the desktop menu thing that gnome has
[10:09] <brakkvatn> I want to get rid of that desktop menu
[10:09] <Tursi> greetings to everybody
[10:10] <abhinav> party
[10:10] <twiztid> rww: ya its quite the technical bug with ifupdown and upstart not resetting the recordfail so im saying screw it and just wanna run the damn service each boot... XD
[10:10] <Rahux> Hi guys - I was wondering if someone can give me advise on how to report a Lucid alpha->beta regression? My bluetooth keyboard/mouse no longer work.
[10:10] <chenyuanjun> 这里能用中文聊天吗？有会说中文的吗？
[10:10] <ubutom> brakkvatn, dunno if thats the right thing to do, but you can try uninstalling gnome-desktop, might also remove all gnome-related stuff
[10:10] <rww> Rahux: probably better to ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:10] <Tursi> i have question... :) it is some possibility that lucid linx did just come out and its not RC version ? :]
[10:11] <Tursi> *came
[10:11] <Rahux> thanks :)
[10:11] <rww> Tursi: Lucid has not been officially released yet; any ISO links you see floating around are not necessarily final.
[10:11] <rww> ubottu: tell chenyuanjun about cn
[10:11] <th3seaw0lf> hi
[10:12] <dominicdinada> !cn
[10:12] <th3seaw0lf> can someone help me please, i need to replace KMIX with gnome-volum-control-applet in kubuntu
[10:12] <abhinav> ubuntu release party
[10:12] <Tursi> rww: so tell me .. why are they they pressenting on "ubuntu" countdown timer" that ubuntu was just released ? :D
[10:12] <Tursi> im so impatient :D
[10:13] <nomp> it says available soon
[10:13] <brakkvatn> ubutom, I think I'll not do that. Want to keep some of the programs. But I figured it out. I entered the xcfe settings editor and removed the netbook menu from the start-up apps.
[10:13] <FardadJalili> ubottu: tell FardadJalili about cn
[10:13] <rww> Tursi: The official Ubuntu countdown timer says "coming soon", not "released", which is what it always says the day of releases ;P
[10:13] <Zorge> yeah, I'm staring at "available soon" as well
[10:13] <brakkvatn> but thanks, ubutom
[10:13] <th3seaw0lf> can someone help me please, i need to replace KMIX with gnome-volum-control-applet in kubuntu
[10:13] <dominicdinada> !isitout | Tursi
[10:13] <kiku4you> Who in this pending some Ubunt 10.04=-O
[10:13] <Anonymous22> How would I change volume over ssh?
[10:13] <rww> Anonymous22: try the "alsamixer" command
[10:14] <Tursi> omg i have the word sometime :D
[10:14] <Tursi> *hate
[10:14] <Anonymous22> Ohhhhh cool!
[10:14] <Anonymous22> That is awesome..
[10:15] <th3seaw0lf> can anyone help me please?
[10:15] <kronos29> hi all
[10:15] <kraut> do-release-upgrade will take some hours, until it finds lucid on archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:15] <kronos29> can anyone help me with symlink in php?
[10:16] <bullgard4> How can I download a complete web site (several web pages or documents (files) hierarchically) at once on my computer? Firefox does not seem to accomplish this.
[10:16] <encompass> kronos29: it's that for #php?
[10:16] <moetunes> th3seaw0lf: it is a part of the gnome panel iirc - you'd need to run gnome
[10:16] <theadmin> bullgard4: use httrack (sudo apt-get install webhttrack)
[10:16] <rww> kronos29: do-release-upgrade will refuse to upgrade until Lucid's actually released. If you wanted to upgrade to the still-technically-development version, you'd want the -d argument to it
[10:16] <Ileden> bullgard4: the tool you're looking for is probably wget
[10:16] <rww> kraut: do-release-upgrade will refuse to upgrade until Lucid's actually released. If you wanted to upgrade to the still-technically-development version, you'd want the -d argument to it
[10:16] <encompass> bullgard4: there are plugins for firefox for that... can't remember them anymore
[10:16] <rww> kronos29: sorry, mistab
[10:16] <Tursi> omg this is looking like an iPad releasing but on the other way.. its not in the news :D
[10:16] <Ileden> bullgard4: but it's a huge pile of options to handle, so take your time... there are some guides online.
[10:16] <kraut> rww: hmm? i thout it was released today?
[10:17] <rww> kraut: It will be released today. It isn't out yet.
[10:17] <kraut> rww: ah, kk
[10:17] <th3seaw0lf> no way to rum it on kde? actually i like kde, but the 150% volume option in gnome-volume-control is also very important for me because my laptop's sound is low....
[10:17] <kraut> rww: actually it will be distributed to the mirrors?
[10:17] <encompass> is there a release channel?  I want to celebrate!
[10:17] <rww> encompass: #ubuntu-release-party
[10:17] <theadmin> encompass: Read the topic, plz. It's #ubuntu-release-party
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Answered my question there rww ;). Mind you I'm using the rc so my updates later will fix stuff nicely
[10:17] <th3seaw0lf> @moetunes no way to run it on kde? actually i like kde, but the 150% volume option in gnome-volume-control is also very important for me because my laptop's sound is low....
[10:17] <rww> kraut: different mirrors will get it at different times. It depends on how often they sync.
[10:17] <encompass> rww: thanks
[10:18] <th3seaw0lf> i can open gnome-voulme-control seperately, but i want it as an applet sitting nicely in the tray
[10:18] <swine_> hey
[10:18] <swine_> i accidently deleted my top panel launcher
[10:18] <moetunes> th3seaw0lf: have you tried alsamixer in konsole to turn things up?
[10:18] <swine_> how do i get it back ?
[10:18] <theadmin> swine_: Which one exactly?
[10:18] <dominicdinada> Tursi this release is not in the news because Distros are generally not products of publicly traded companies with shareholders and a make or break deal to raise stock prices :)
[10:18] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know is ubuntu 10.04 is out?
[10:18] <theadmin> perlsyntax: Will be sometime soon
[10:19] <rww> perlsyntax: not out yet, will be out sometime today
[10:19] <swine_> theadmin, application launcher
[10:19] <dominicdinada> !isitout | perlsyntax
[10:19] <swine_> theadmin, the one at the top of the screen
[10:19] <rww> swine_: right-click the other panel, click "Add Panel", right-click the new panel and add each applet back. See also the reset command I'll have ubottu send you.
[10:19] <perlsyntax> ok
[10:19] <theadmin> swine_: Ah, like the menu... hm, try resseting panel.
[10:19] <rww> ubottu: panelreset | swine_
[10:19] <th3seaw0lf> moetunes - the applet works fine even when i open it seperately in kde, i can pull the volume up to 150%, but it doesnt sit in the tray
[10:19] <dominicdinada> :*( bah
[10:19] <theadmin> killall gnome-panel? Hm.
[10:19] <swine_> theadmin, awesome, thanks
[10:19] <rww> theadmin: gnome-panel automatically respawns when you kill it
[10:20] <theadmin> rww: Ah, like nautilus and such
[10:20] <swine_> the problem wasn't the panel being dead
[10:20] <Tursi> dominicdinada: that's so thrue...
[10:20] <swine_> it was that i deleted the top panel altogether
[10:20] <moetunes> th3seaw0lf: if you tried alsamixer you might not need it
[10:20] <StephenLinux> any way to get wine to use MSVCP100D.dll?
[10:20] <swine_> so the application launcher was gone
[10:20] <theadmin> StephenLinux: Please ask that on #winehq
[10:20] <theadmin> swine_: That command should still work
[10:20] <StephenLinux> ok thanks
[10:20] <Anonymous22> Makebcompile it from c. ..
[10:20] <swine_> theadmin, it did
[10:20] <th3seaw0lf> moetunes , alsamixer cant pull the volume up to 150%, sadly
[10:20] <swine_> theadmin, did exactly what i wanted, thanks
[10:21] <theadmin> ubottu: yay | swine_
[10:21] <rww> you're welcome
[10:21] <th3seaw0lf> moetunes, is there any other mixer i can use with kde?
[10:21] <moetunes> th3seaw0lf: afaik there's no way to get a gnome panel app to run in clipper...
[10:22] <stodorovic> mm so much quieter here now that i ignored the joins and parts :)
[10:22] <moetunes> th3seaw0lf: tried in #kubuntu ?
[10:22] <dominicdinada> Why the heck is my keyboard causing my cursor position to jump all of the sudden then switch windows
[10:22] <lightbricko> How do I chose between a 32-bit and the 64-bit ubuntu version? I have a Corei7 but is there any advantage/disadvantage about installing the 64-bit version?
[10:22] <th3seaw0lf> moetunes, not yet but im going there
[10:22] <moetunes> k
[10:22] <theadmin> lightbricko: How much RAM? If it's less then 4GB, probably no point in using x64 one
[10:22] <coz_> has anyone found issues with today's updates.. concerening libglx ??
[10:23] <lightbricko> theadmin: I got 4gb and will not get any more.
[10:23] <dominicdinada> doesn't the ubuntu website have different distros for 64bit on the download page
[10:23] <rww> lightbricko: there's a link on http://download.ubuntu.com/ for Alternative download options. You'd use that to get 64-bit
[10:23] <theadmin> lightbricko: Probably then you should use 64 one
[10:23] <coz_> dominicdinada,  they should be there yes
[10:23] <stodorovic> lightbricko: pitty you can't use all 4GB
[10:23] <rww> lightbricko: as for which is better, I've used both and notice very little difference in performance and compatibility.
[10:23] <mcs_che> ыц
[10:23] <rww> stodorovic: can with a PAE kernel, which I believe is automatically used
[10:23] <dominicdinada> coz_: I was answering his question how to get the 64 bit version :/
[10:24] <theadmin> mcs_che: russian support in... oh.
[10:24] <coz_> dominicdinada,  oh sorry
[10:24] <dominicdinada> No worries :)
[10:24] <coz_> :)
[10:24] <rww> h, autoinstall is only in lucid, not karmic
[10:24] <rww> ubottu: pae | lightbricko
[10:24] <stodorovic> rww: hmm I will have to read about PAE in my kernel book when I get home, but I thought the top 128MB are used for HIGHMEM mappings
[10:24] <dominicdinada> But why is my keyboard so screwy ?
[10:24] <lightbricko> As I understand it, the 64-bit has "in theory" a larger risk for incompatible applications but it's rarely noticed in practice so that aspect shouldn't matter. Would you guys agree with that?
[10:25] <lightbricko> rww: Thanks didn't know about that
[10:25] <abhinav> when will 10.04 come out?
[10:25] <rww> abhinav: sometime on the 29th
[10:25] <theadmin> abhinav: Sometime today
[10:25] <dominicdinada> !isitout |abhinav
[10:25] <rww> lightbricko: I used 64-bit for about two years (switched to a 32-bit Atom recently :( ), and very rarely had compatibility issues.
[10:25] <iceroot> lightbricko: replace application with hardware, then your theory is correct
[10:25] <stodorovic> I want multilib. Does ubuntu provide that?
[10:26] <rww> stodorovic: not yet, no. It's being planned for an upcoming version.
[10:26] <stodorovic> rww: such as slamd64 - you get 32 and 64 libs and devel environment
[10:26] <coz_> has anyone reported issues with the 2.6.31-21-generic  update this morning?
[10:26] <lightbricko> rww: I see then it won't be a problem for me I think. iceroot: Ok then I understand :)
[10:26] <stodorovic> rww: interesting. will have to monitor that
[10:26] <iceroot> lightbricko: with opensource-software/driver there should not be a problem
[10:26] <monzie> Hello all
[10:27] <thelostpatrol> i'm going to run 10.4 in a virtual machine. is 32-bit enough?
[10:27] <dominicdinada> Not that I have seen Coz
[10:27] <lightbricko> iceroot: I "have" to use the proprietary driver for my NVidia card since it's so much better.
[10:27] <iceroot> thelostpatrol: #ubuntu+1
[10:27] <iceroot> lightbricko: yes, nvidia-driver working fine on amd64
[10:27] <theadmin> There is no such thing as ubuntu 10.04
[10:27] <monzie> I have a macbook pro 4,1
[10:27] <lightbricko> kool
[10:27] <theadmin> 10.4*
[10:28] <monzie> How good/bad would be Ubuntu on it?
[10:28] <thelostpatrol> yes there is.
[10:28] <theadmin> thelostpatrol: It's 10.04
[10:28] <monzie> ( in terms of detecting hardware , hibernation etc )
[10:28] <thelostpatrol> oh. right.
[10:28] <thelostpatrol> my bad.
[10:28] <dominicdinada> its 004
[10:28] <rww> monzie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro4-1/Karmic
[10:28] <lightbricko> Last question: Must software be compiled for 64-bit (amd64) to be able to run on the 64-bit Ubuntu OS, or is there some kind of "compatibility layer" (with slight performance penalty) that enables me to run 32-bit applications?
[10:29] <stodorovic> lightbricko: has to be 64 bit. unless you have multilib
[10:29]  * Taos is upset because he broke his linux
[10:29] <theadmin> Taos: Huh
[10:30] <moetunes> Taos: you get to keep al the bits :]
[10:30] <monzie> rww: thanks, that helped a lot
[10:30] <Taos> Tried to update nvidia graphics drivers, and ended up busting it
[10:30] <theadmin> oh heck, I had the same issue with ATI ones
[10:30] <theadmin> When I updated from Jaunty to Karmic it totally killed my X.
[10:30] <ArtVandalae> Taos, proprietary nvidia drivers or the new FOSS ones?
[10:31] <Taos> Prop
[10:31] <XeiaieX> sighhh
[10:31] <Taos> have I killed my shell?
[10:31] <lightbricko> stodorovic: ok thanks for telling me (however it will probably not be an issue for me)
[10:31] <th3seaw0lf> moetunes - i solved it, apparently all u hav to do is to add gnome-volume-control-applet to the KDE autostart
[10:31] <th3seaw0lf> th3seaw0lf: and it sits in your kde tray as an applet
[10:31] <stodorovic> lightbricko: it might be for me :)
[10:31] <moetunes> th3seaw0lf: happy for you :]
[10:32] <swine_> lightbricko, you just need all the 32 bit libraries :)
[10:32] <th3seaw0lf> thanks for your help moetunes :)
[10:32] <XeiaieX> is this true?:
[10:32] <XeiaieX> Quoted off PartyBot1 on the #ubuntu-release-party IRC:
[10:32] <XeiaieX> *** Ubuntu-Release RSS feed, [29/04/10 11:09:13] : Lucid release DELAYED INDEFINITELY due to serious security flaws found
[10:32] <lightbricko> stodorovic: I feared it would be for me which is why I installed the 32-bit ubuntu last time.
[10:32] <StephenLinux> what is the diff between lucid (release) and the rc?
[10:32] <moetunes> th3seaw0lf: I didn't do much tho...
[10:32] <Taos> What can I do to fix it?
[10:32] <stodorovic> XeiaieX: hahahaha
[10:32] <XeiaieX> ?
[10:32] <stodorovic> that's pretty funny.
[10:33] <Manfred-> XeiaieX: you must be trollin' aren't you ?
[10:33] <erUSUL> !final | StephenLinux
[10:33] <nickfu> m
[10:33] <lalalol> !ot
[10:33] <StephenLinux> i thought as much :)
[10:33] <XeiaieX> manfred, fuck yourself stuck up asshole, read the ubuntu forum
[10:33] <etiago> Manfred-, he isn't, PartyBot did say that on the other channel
[10:33] <rww> XeiaieX: Watch your language, please. Also, PartyBot jokes.
[10:33] <swine_> lightbricko, it's generally better to run 32 bit applications, esp. if you don't have gobs of memory
[10:33] <arand> !language | XeiaieX
[10:33] <theadmin> XeiaieX: Woah, watch the language
[10:34] <Manfred-> XeiaieX: take a deep breath
[10:34] <XeiaieX> then dont be so quick to insult someone
[10:34] <lightbricko> swine_: I think I will run into problems if I tried installing those. Even if the problems wheren't huge, it would be easier to use a 32-bit installation with PAE.
[10:34] <dominicdinada> Nerd Rage sigh
[10:34] <Taos> So does anyone know how to fix my problem?
[10:34] <swine_> lightbricko, well i run 64 bit ubuntu
[10:34] <swine_> lightbricko, works well
[10:34] <dominicdinada> can u press the up button to reask taos ?
[10:34] <lightbricko> swine_: I see. But why do you think that "it's generally better to run 32 bit applications"?'
[10:34] <swine_> lightbricko, smaller pointers
[10:34] <XeiaieX> OK so anyway, again, is that statement i quoted true or not
[10:35] <XeiaieX> someone said he did say that
[10:35] <XeiaieX> sooo
[10:35] <theadmin> I tried running a 32-bit on a AMD64 processor, and it failed to detect a lot of hardware (networking devices, for example)
[10:35] <swine_> lightbricko, smaller pointers = less memory usage/better cache hit rates
[10:35] <Taos> After installing the propriatry nvidiea drivers it killed my display.
[10:35] <stodorovic> it would be funny if it were true. too much emphasis on release deadline and perhaps not on making it work? dunno. I do hope they fix things though - security problems are not nice
[10:35] <Taos> *on reboot
[10:35] <lightbricko> swine_: less memory usage yes, but also better cache hit rates
[10:35] <lightbricko> t?
[10:35] <rww> swine_, lightbricko: changes in pointer size between 32-bit and 64-bit have a negligable effect on performance.
[10:35] <swine_> lightbricko, of course
[10:35] <mcs_che>  /msg nickserv info mcs_che
[10:36] <rww> although in general, 32-bit to 64-bit has a negligable performance change for most users.
[10:36] <XeiaieX> well this was helpful
[10:36] <lalalol> hey, if u live close to the sea of British columbia in canada, what time is it there now?
[10:36] <swine_> lightbricko, although with the amd64 stuff, you get access to extra registers asw ell
[10:36] <rww> XeiaieX: As I said already, PartyBot jokes. It was not telling the truth.
[10:36] <theadmin> XeiaieX: I think it's a cake. They shoulda release it.
[10:36] <XeiaieX> oh rww, i didnt see when you said that
[10:36] <XeiaieX> lot going on
[10:37] <lightbricko> rww and swine_: Like some other issues, this issue about pointer sizes seems to be true in theory but insignificant in practice for most users.
[10:37] <developer> how can i limit the bandwidth used by a client in a network
[10:37] <stodorovic> rww: did they fix the Xorg mem leak issue that was on /. a few days ago?
[10:37] <theadmin> stodorovic: Yeah, they have
[10:37] <XeiaieX> hey how do i type to a specific user
[10:37] <stodorovic> theadmin: good :)
[10:37] <rww> lightbricko: correct
[10:37] <erUSUL> developer: on the router
[10:37] <dominicdinada> Developer: router
[10:37] <Guest60663> is it ok to update my os to 10.04
[10:37] <XeiaieX> without typing their name manuallt
[10:37] <swine_> lightbricko, sure. i run 64 bit linux
[10:37] <erUSUL> !tab
[10:37] <swine_> lightbricko, it feels about as fast as 32 :)
[10:37] <theadmin> XeiaieX: Type first few letters and hit the "Tab" key
[10:37] <developer> erUSUL, dominicdinada actually using linux
[10:37] <XeiaieX> oh ok thanks
[10:37] <developer> erUSUL, dominicdinada we have a server here
[10:38] <Guest60663> is it ok to update my os to 10.04
[10:38] <rww> Guest60663: define "ok"
[10:38] <lightbricko> The reason I'm trying to find out which one to run is not at all performance (the potential differences are insignificant to me) but only fears of incompatibility/bugs with applications.
[10:38] <Taos> so does anyone know what I could do to fix my problem
[10:38] <erUSUL> developer: well the look at the linux advanced router project how to's. traffic shapping
[10:38] <dominicdinada> Not sure... about the server
[10:38] <swine_> lightbricko, you can run 32 bit apps under 64 bit ubuntu
[10:38] <lalalol> !ca
[10:38] <erUSUL> developer: or maybe you can find a gui or script to do that easily
[10:38] <swine_> lightbricko,  you just need to make sure you have all the 32 bit dependencies
[10:38] <developer> erUSUL, ok
[10:39] <dominicdinada> They are raising Cain in the release channel
[10:39] <Guest60663> ok thx i it still on the beta or is it now on the standart edition
[10:39] <erUSUL> developer: maybe ebox has a module for traffic shaping; really dunno. do your research
[10:39] <theadmin> Guest60663: It's QUITE stable, however, it's not released. (You will be notified when it will, by the update-manager box)
[10:39] <swine_> lightbricko, i've found 64 bit everything to be sufficiently stable though
[10:39] <swine_> lightbricko, flash is crap in both 32 and 64 bit versions :)
[10:40] <Guest60663> what dictionary aplication can i use offline can any one help me
[10:40] <stodorovic> swine_: very true (re: Flash)
[10:40] <rww> 64-bit flash is better than the flashplugin-installer in the 64-bit repos, though
[10:40] <rww> !flash64
[10:40] <robban_> Anyone know how to give an external usb disk write permissions for everyone, would like to share it via samba to some Win machinse, tried it in 9.10 and 10.04 with same result : only accessable for owner
[10:40] <stodorovic> Guest60663: dict! :) dict.org and download the data-sets and download their server/client app
[10:40] <theadmin> Never had problems with flash... Am i doing something wrong?
[10:40] <rww> nspluginwrapper is crap :(
[10:40] <swine_> theadmin, don't use the web much ? :P
[10:41] <bullgard4> theadmin: I obtain: "11:35:46	Error: 	"Unable to get server's address: No such file or directory" (-5) after 2 retries at link gnu/robots.txt (from primary/primary)." What is meant here by 'the server's address'?
[10:41] <lightbricko> swine_: I see. I think I got some more knowledge about this now, thanks swine_ rww and others.
[10:41] <erUSUL> rww: it has an advantage. flash crashing do not crash your browser....
[10:41] <theadmin> swine_: huh? No, I am there all the time
[10:41] <theadmin> bullgard4: ...what.
[10:41] <XeiaieX> anyone here currently using a distro other than ubuntu? im using opensuse, awaiting 10.4 of course.
[10:41] <rww> ubottu: ot | XeiaieX
[10:41] <theadmin> XeiaieX: Other distros are not supported here.
[10:41] <brah-> xe I use windows xp
[10:41] <erUSUL> !party | XeiaieX
[10:41] <brah-> ubuntu won't run on my comp normally, have to keep it in vmware
[10:42] <Taos> Does anyone have a solution for my problem with the drivers
[10:42] <bullgard4> theadmin: Your message is too short to be comprehensible.
[10:42] <lightbricko> theadmin: I've had no issues with flash since getting a faster PC. Before, I had issues with movies lagging and using a lot of resources (but no other issues)
[10:42] <theadmin> bullgard4: I don't get what you were talking about
[10:42] <brah-> Taos depends on what kind of hardware the drivers are for
[10:42] <Taos> graphics card
[10:42] <swine_> theadmin, and you've never had firefox go haywire ?
[10:42] <Taos> nvidea drivers
[10:43] <theadmin> swine_: A couple of times, maybe, but usually browsing Youtube and such is fine
[10:43] <brah-> Taos I thought nividia made linux drivers
[10:43] <bullgard4> theadmin: I responded to a message from you. So you should know what I am talking about: About your message to me.
[10:43] <swine_> theadmin, youtube is well tested
[10:43] <Taos> They do
[10:43] <swine_> but little flash apps mess up firefox all the time
[10:43] <Kills> so today the 10.04 is comin out?
[10:43] <Guest60663> what dictionary aplication can i use offline can any one help me
[10:43] <Taos> but on update it killed my display
[10:43] <theadmin> bullgard4: Uh, sorry, but you probably don't realize how loud this channel is. I forgot what you talked about with me
[10:44] <rww> Kills: yes
[10:44] <Kills> when and how do I get it?
[10:44] <Guest60663> what dictionary aplication can i use OFFLINE? can any one help me
[10:44] <ubuntu> hi
[10:44] <rww> Kills: There isn't a set time for release, and http://download.ubuntu.com/ once it's released
[10:44] <mechanicles> Hi all
[10:44] <OERIAS> is ubuntu 10.04 released yet?
[10:44] <rww> OERIAS: no
[10:45] <stodorovic> swine_: I've had firefox go haywire. usually when using flash
[10:45] <OERIAS> what time?
[10:45] <swine_> Guest60663, do you not have internet access 24/7 ?
[10:45] <swine_> how barbaric
[10:45] <bullgard4> theadmin:  "	<theadmin>	bullgard4: use httrack (sudo apt-get install webhttrack)"
[10:45] <lightbricko> OERIAS: : #ubuntu-release-party
[10:45] <brontosaurusrex> Guest60663: there is 'dict' in the repos
[10:45] <mechanicles> hey I want to update my gedit, how to do it?
[10:45] <rww> OERIAS: there isn't a set time. Sometime today.
[10:45] <theadmin> bullgard4: I see. Well, if there is a problem, it might be some permission issue on server side or something else... Nothing I can do about
[10:45] <sudotux> nick billydroptables
[10:45] <rww> Kills: ( or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes if you want to upgrade an existing Ubuntu install. again, after it's released)
[10:45] <Taos> How can I roll back my driver version via command line
[10:45] <stodorovic> swine_: heck I've even had Firefox once cause immense disk activity that actually ended up shifting my partitions and scrambling my MBR...
[10:45] <rww> what
[10:45] <bullgard4> theadmin: I see. Thank you.
[10:46] <Guest60663> i dont have internet 24/7
[10:46] <swine_> stodorovic, that sounds... pretty unlikely
[10:46] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, is this the right place to ask how to install a irc server on a server ?
[10:46] <OERIAS> hey slavik, you know slavs cause half of the world's problems!
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Mechanicies: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall gedit ,will pull the latest off your repos
[10:46] <rww> DjAngo23: here or #ubuntu-server would work fine
[10:46] <DjAngo23> rww,
[10:46] <coz_> OERIAS, ??
[10:46] <DjAngo23> rww, thanks
[10:46] <DjAngo23> Wel, thats my question ;)
[10:46] <rww> OERIAS: That's offtopic for this channel.
[10:46] <mechanicles> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:46] <lightbricko> DjAngo23: If your server software has an own IRC channel that channel would be the best
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Mechanicies: if there is a newer one than on the repos you will need to add a ppa with the newer version or download a deb
[10:47] <swine_> DjAngo23, find an irc server and install it ? :)
[10:47] <moetunes> OERIAS: wrong channel for that mate
[10:47] <stodorovic> swine_: well it was either firefox or xorg. Never seen anything like it before. Had to rebuild the disk and spent about a month writing a low-level C util to try to recover as much data as possible from the ext3 partitions. Gave up when the metadata for a file pointed to the middle of my old school dissertation... :(
[10:47] <brontosaurusrex> Guest60663: actually no, that requires internet as well
[10:47] <Taos> :/ Well what commands can I use?
[10:47] <swine_> stodorovic, you don't need to write 'low level C utilities'
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Stodorovic: backups make life easier
[10:47] <melrokz> what are the GRUB commands to add windows 7 and windows Xp on my 1st and 2nd hdd respectively?
[10:47] <swine_> stodorovic, have you not seen ext2debug ?
[10:47] <msanchez> hey! just realized today is the great day! :-)
[10:47] <Colrol> is there a way to boot with / as read-only?
[10:47] <stodorovic> ActionParsnip: true :)
[10:47] <DjAngo23> swine_, Thats exactly my problem, because when typing irc server on google, imagine how many result from servers or channel making their announcement, that i can't find what i'm really looking for
[10:47] <melrokz> i mean, editing menu.lst
[10:48] <theadmin> melrokz: menu.lst is old
[10:48] <swine_> DjAngo23, go to freshmeat, find an irc server
[10:48] <swine_> DjAngo23, download it, install it
[10:48] <theadmin> sheesh, just make a channel on freenode, ffs
[10:48] <melrokz> I'm on Ubuntu 9.04...
[10:48] <theadmin> melrokz: Oh.
[10:48] <stodorovic> swine_: except i dont think ext2debug works when the block groups, partition table, superblock offset or other critical metadata is damaged :/
[10:48] <melrokz> and installing Grub 2 crashed my system.
[10:49] <melrokz> nothing boots.
[10:49] <Mowee> Hi :o
[10:49] <swine_> stodorovic, superblock is backed up
[10:49] <stodorovic> DjAngo23: go to wikipedia, search for irc server - there usually you have a list of irc servers (hybrid etc) and usually links to the project sites to get the code
[10:49] <Taos> What should i do?
[10:50] <melrokz> what are the GRUB commands to add windows 7 and windows Xp on my 1st and 2nd hdd respectively?
[10:50] <stodorovic> swine_: yes at different places. I calculated the offsets and could not read correct data at those locations. :)
[10:50] <erUSUL> !grub2 | melrokz
[10:50] <theadmin> erUSUL: He has GRUB1
[10:50] <DjAngo23> stodorovic, thanks for that one ;)
[10:50] <kelvinella> how come xubuntu is slower than ubuntu on old laptop?
[10:50] <erUSUL> !grub1 | melrokz
[10:50] <swine_> stodorovic, weird, did you report this bug to the ext3 people ?
[10:50] <erUSUL> !grub | melrokz
[10:51] <swine_> stodorovic, nothing firefox or x.org does should be able to do this
[10:51] <Taos> argh!
[10:51] <theadmin> kelvinella: No matter how funny it may sound, but Xubuntu is far more fat then Ubuntu
[10:51] <dwo> .
[10:51] <brontosaurusrex> DjAngo23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[10:51] <moetunes> kelvinella: what did you install to make it slower?
[10:51] <antonio__> hi, how can i stop dhpc server?
[10:51] <melrokz> k, thanks, i'll check it out...
[10:52] <erUSUL> antonio__: sudo service dhcpd stop ?
[10:52] <mechanicles> ActionParsnip: E: Invalid operation gedit
[10:52] <shifat96> hello
[10:52] <kelvinella> i install ubuntu first, then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <stodorovic> swine_: it looked as if the disk was scrambled badly. I know... but I have had xorg crash, perhaps I got hit with some 0-day or it was a bug in the kernel? dunno. In the end, I had to resort to strings of my drive and backed that up. Since I had about 12 different kernel sources extracted, it's been a pain to process the 20GB or so of *ascii* data and I've given up totally. But that was about 6 years ago :/
[10:52] <kelvinella> but it is a lot slower than ubuntu
[10:52] <swine_> stodorovic, i've never sen anything like that...
[10:52] <shifat96> how do you change window manager to compiz on xubuntu?
[10:52] <kelvinella> and when i run the command "free" i found that xubuntu uses more memory than ubuntu ? wtf?
[10:53] <swine_> stodorovic, i did an rm -fr on 2 weeks worth  of code once though :)
[10:53] <theadmin> kelvinella: Told ya, they over-bloated the Ubuntu's XFCE.
[10:53] <swine_> stodorovic, but all that took was a deep breath and some time with ext2debug
[10:53] <RobertF> Hello..
[10:53] <moetunes> kelvinella: check the autostart apps for gnome stuff
[10:53] <RobertF> Fluxbox is not available in main.
[10:53] <shifat96> how do you change the window manager to copmiz from xfce4 on xubuntu?
[10:54] <RobertF> What are the X11 window maker available?
[10:54] <stodorovic> swine_: me neither :( never seen it before, never seen it since. Yeah as long as you dont write over the original disk blocks, I don't think rm clears the inode and struct ext2_dirent2 entries, so you can often recover.
[10:54] <kelvinella> what autostart?
[10:54] <theadmin> shifat96: compiz --replace?
[10:54] <Taos> how do you use envy.
[10:54] <kelvinella> theadmin, what should i do now?
[10:54] <moetunes> kelvinella: system settings in the menu has a button for it
[10:54] <shifat96> no, change to compiz, theadmin
[10:54] <theadmin> kelvinella: Not my fault :P Sorry, away now
[10:54] <theadmin> shifat96: That's exactly what this command would do
[10:55] <theadmin> shifat96: It would replace the current window manager with compiz
[10:55] <brontosaurusrex> Taos: 1. educate for possible disaster, 2, sudo envy (i think)
[10:55] <shifat96> ok
[10:55] <moetunes> kelvinella: you don't just have xubuntu running - common mistake
[10:55] <theadmin> shifat96: Just don't run it in a terminal, run it from Alt+F2 thing
[10:55] <coz_> shifat96,  you could also install   fusion-icon  and the command would be   fusion-icon
[10:55] <kelvinella> moetunes, what do u mean?
[10:55] <shifat96> thankyou
[10:55] <coz_> shifat96,  I prefer that method  since fusion icon also has right click options abailable
[10:55] <shifat96> it works now
[10:56] <moetunes> kelvinella: look at what is autostarted
[10:56] <mechanicles> how to reinstall gedit in ubuntu?
[10:56] <Taos> ARGH how do i fix this?!!
[10:56] <Taos> Its sending me mental
[10:56] <coz_> mechanicles,  sudo apt-get install gedit
[10:56] <erUSUL> mechanicles: sudo aptitude reinstall gedit
[10:56] <ArtVandalae> Taos, still the driver issue?
[10:56] <coz_> oh reinstall sorry
[10:56] <RobertF> What are the X11 window manager available in Main?
[10:57] <Taos> Yea
[10:57] <ArtVandalae> Taos, I'd remove the nvidia drivers and install noveaux (sp?) drivers. That should at least get you X
[10:57] <RobertF> universe is not supported by the ubuntu team
[10:57] <kelvinella> moetunes, all i can say is that the xubuntu interface is far more fancier than ubuntu
[10:57] <Taos> I dont know how to use the terminal
[10:57] <Taos> I wouldnt know how to do any of that
[10:57] <ArtVandalae> Taos, okay, I can help you.
[10:57] <mahershalal> Hi all. I have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I've learned it's gone in Lucid. Where can I edit Section "Device" instead? Thanks.
[10:57] <moetunes> kelvinella: and I find it is far speedier with lower resource usage
[10:57] <mechanicles> erUSUL, coz_ thanks...
[10:58] <erUSUL> mahershalal: it is been gone for a long time now. you can create one if you want
[10:58] <kelvinella> moetunes, so i can switch back to ubuntu, right?
[10:58] <mahershalal> erUSUL: and just put the section in there?
[10:58] <HawkMan_> Need soome tips to activate compiz/effects on my atom/ion system, I got working Nvidia drivers installed. and it asks if I want to keep my settings, but when I answer yes it's still just basic.
[10:58] <ArtVandalae> Taos, sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[10:58] <se5a-nix> sometimes a program wont see keypresses if my mouse cursor is not hovering over it, how do I fix this? even if it's in focus sometimes, for example I cant type in a pidgin window if the mouse is not hovering over it - even if the window is in focus.
[10:58] <erUSUL> mahershalal: yes
[10:58] <moetunes> kelvinella: that an option in the session menu when you log in
[10:58] <mahershalal> erSULU: cool thanks.
[10:59] <ArtVandalae> Taos, then reboot, and let me know if anything happens
[10:59] <kelvinella> moetunes, how do i get rid of this xubuntu completely?
[10:59] <moetunes> !puregnome > kelvinella
[10:59] <BlackBishop> 10.04 out yet ?
[11:00] <chenyuanjun> 客空间空间
[11:00] <mahershalal> erUSUL: last question: is there something I need to know when creating xorg.conf? Is it possible to just begin with Section "Device" and end with EndSection?
[11:00] <erUSUL> moetunes: that only shows how to purge kde though :(
[11:00] <darius_> Is there a way to see what compiling options were used for a given Ubuntu package?
[11:00] <theadmin> ubottu: zh | chenyuanjun
[11:00] <ArtVandalae> mahershalal, which driver are you trying to install/use?
[11:00] <theadmin> BlackBishop: Not yet
[11:00] <kelvinella> moetunes, ?
[11:01] <erUSUL> mahershalal: maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' will be a good starting point
[11:01] <moetunes> erUSUL: oops - don't worry about that kelvinella
[11:01] <kelvinella> moetunes, i dont get the ubottu thing
[11:01] <BlackBishop> hope it'll be out by tonight
[11:01] <digitaloktay> ubottu tr
[11:01] <MinusSeven> i just downloaded Ubuntu
[11:01] <mahershalal> ArtVandalae: it's a workaround for a bug. I need to disable Option "EnablePageFlip".
[11:01] <theadmin> MinusSeven: And?
[11:01] <JediMaster> anyone know why it doesn't seem possible to remove plymoth on an ubuntu-server install? (It is just a graphical animation on boot right?) It's trying to remove: at console-setup cron dmsetup e2fsprogs ftp hostname ifupdown initramfs-tools initscripts kbd logrotate module-init-tools mountall mysql-server-5.1 netbase ntpdate openssh-server plymouth postfix procps rsyslog ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard udev ufw upstart ureadahead util-linux
[11:01] <MinusSeven> just finishing burning it to a CD
[11:01] <ArtVandalae> mahershalal, ah okay, can't help you there then, sorry
[11:01] <theadmin> MinusSeven: Be honest, please, is this your first time using Linux?
[11:01] <JediMaster> MinusSeven, hate to tell you but there's a new version (10.04) due out later today
[11:01] <MinusSeven> no
[11:02] <MinusSeven> why?
[11:02] <MinusSeven> i got 9.10
[11:02] <rww> JediMaster: because plymouth is required by mountall. To stop it from running, try removing "splash" from /etc/default/grub and running sudo update-grub
[11:02] <mahershalal> ArtVandalae & erUSUL: ok thanks.
[11:02] <theadmin> MinusSeven: Well, I just was wondering. If you're new, then I coulda teach you some beginner stuff :D
[11:02] <Anonymous22> But how long?
[11:02] <JediMaster> rww, thanks, just seemed unnecessary for a server install =)
[11:03] <rww> it really is
[11:03] <se5a-nix> humn, how do filter the somone joins, somone leaves messages
[11:03] <moetunes> kelvinella: the ubootu thing is a bot with helpful links - sometimes...
[11:03] <erUSUL> se5a-nix: depends on the irc client
[11:03] <rww> se5a-nix: which IRC client are you using?
[11:03] <veloxid> hey i still have my speedstepping problem
[11:03] <se5a-nix> pidgin
[11:03] <veloxid> i figured out that cpuidle is installed but does not speedstep
[11:03] <brontosaurusrex> se5a-nix: on xchat? rmb click on channel button, there should be something
[11:03] <moetunes> s/ubootu/ubottu
[11:03] <rww> se5a-nix: There's a plugin to do it.
[11:04] <rww> that comes with pidgin
[11:04] <Bert-> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:04] <Bert-> it is a real torture :(
[11:04] <Bert-> When the Lynx will be published ???????
[11:04] <Bert-> I'm so impatient
[11:04] <Name141> wow flash is terrible on my old P2 450MHz system
[11:04] <se5a-nix> any idea what it's called?
[11:04] <rww> Bert-: sometime on the 29th
[11:04] <Name141> just hops and skips
[11:04] <erUSUL> !party | Bert-
[11:04] <Bert-> rww yeah
[11:04] <Bert-> we are on the 29th ;)
[11:05] <yasser> any secret mirror/torrent whr i can get ubuntu 10?
[11:05] <protozone> Bert-: Several hours from now. Only ~15 mins ago they decided to respin the CDs. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/570765
[11:05] <rww> yasser: No, because it's not out yet.
[11:05] <Name141> Is there anything I can do about that?
[11:05] <azlon> in gparted when i right click on a drive there are a list of options to format a drive's fs. only a few are available to select... how can i enable the ntfs option?
[11:05] <rww> se5a-nix: "Hide Join/Part messages", I think ;P
[11:05] <erUSUL> Name141: use noflash/noscript extensions for firefox ? ?
[11:05] <burg> hello. when will 10.04 stable be available for download/update ?
[11:05] <veloxid> even if i use userspace and change it by setspeed to800000 it changes to 2ghz agin and does not do stepping
[11:06] <erUSUL> !outyet
[11:06] <Gryllida> burg,  aapril 29
[11:06]  * erUSUL and the crazy begins ....
[11:06] <rww> erUSUL: Begins? It's been like this for hours ;P
[11:06] <se5a-nix> Much better! thanks rww
[11:06] <erUSUL> rww: oh well
[11:06] <moetunes> erUSUL: been crazy for a while :]
[11:06] <veloxid> anyone an idea what i can do?
[11:06] <lightbricko> Why does Ubuntu have Empathy and not Pidgin? (In my view Empathy is by far not as good yet)
[11:07] <eltew> I like pidgin better too.
[11:07] <rww> lightbricko: because Empathy uses Telepathy, which allows for stuff like screensharing and online gaming much eaiser
[11:07] <Gryllida> lightbricko, Empathy is in kde & Pidgin is gnome?
[11:07] <erUSUL> lightbricko: it is a gnome project considered to have more future
[11:07] <brontosaurusrex> lightbricko: it has better name?
[11:07] <burg> Gryllida, that`s today
[11:07] <swine_> lightbricko, supposedly some teleconfering stuff
[11:07] <rww> Gryllida: no, Empathy is GNOME's official IM client.
[11:07] <Gryllida> burg, yes.
[11:07] <balgarath> anyone know when the final release will be available for download?
[11:07] <rww> balgarath: sometime on the 29th
[11:07] <erUSUL> !outyet
[11:07] <swine_> lightbricko, but yeah, as an IM client, pidgin is better
[11:07] <Gryllida> rww, I thought pidgin on gnome by default.
[11:07] <rww> Gryllida: no
[11:07] <burg> Gryllida, and i can only see: ubuntu 10.04 coming soon
[11:08] <se5a-nix> anyway, sometimes pidgin, and other programs wont see key presses if the mouse cursor is not hovering over them. any idea why, and how to fix this?
[11:08] <swine_> i sith they had extended gnome instead
[11:08] <duffydack> !isitoutyet | balgarath
[11:08] <swine_> wis
[11:08] <swine_> h
[11:08] <swine_> er, pidgin
[11:08] <mrben_> lightbricko, usability analysis here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
[11:08] <FloodBot4> swine_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:08] <balgarath> duffydack, thnx
[11:08] <swine_> the empathy ui is much worse
[11:08] <veloxid> some one can help me?
[11:08] <erUSUL> !ask | veloxid
[11:08] <eltew> Hey guys I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 server.  I cant ssh into it from school cuz they block port 22.  Anyone know how I can change the incoming SSH port in Ubuntu?
[11:08] <rww> tl;dr: Empathy sucks compared to Pidgin, Telepathy is awesome compared to libpurple
[11:08] <Gryllida> !anyone ! veloxid
[11:09] <Gryllida> !anyone | veloxid
[11:09] <swine_> eltew, it's in the sshd config
[11:09] <erUSUL> eltew: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:09] <moetunes> veloxid: might be time to state the prob again
[11:09] <duffydack> balgarath, I`m in uk (11am now) and its normally released quite late on in the day/evening.. has in the past anyway
[11:09] <rww> eltew: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config, change the Port directive, sudo service ssh restart
[11:09] <eltew> thank you guys
[11:09] <swine_> incidently, catfighting is awesome
[11:09] <eltew> both of you, erUSUL and rww
[11:09] <swine_> two cats in the backyard have been going at it for like 2 hours now
[11:09] <Gryllida> ?
[11:09] <rww> swine_: #ubuntu-offtopic would probably care more ;P
[11:09] <balgarath> duffydack, cool...I'm in the US(5am here).
[11:10] <duffydack> I just wait till next day anyways.. let all the excited little kiddies get their leet hands on it lol
[11:10] <veloxid> k
[11:10] <balgarath> lol
[11:10] <lightbricko> Gryllida rww erUSUL brontosaurusrex mrben_ and swine_: It seems like you share my opinion. "It seems to have a great future". But in my view then it should be the default in the future when it has become "great" or "good".
[11:10] <balgarath> im at a good stopping point in terms of how much code I need to write the next couple days...gonna install asap so i can get the kinks worked out and get back to coding
[11:10] <Gryllida> !pidgin
[11:11] <Gryllida> !empathy
[11:11] <Gryllida> O.O
[11:11] <brontosaurusrex> lightbricko: no, i dont use pidgin or empathy, was just a wild guess from my side
[11:11] <sudotux> !isitout
[11:11] <nicholas_> !Pigdin
[11:11] <mrben_> lightbricko, tbh i don't care too much what comes as default as it's easy to install whatever softweare *i* want
[11:11] <rww> meanwhile, rww uses bitlbee and laughs at you GUI folks ;P
[11:11] <nicholas_> !openttd
[11:11] <Taos> im back on ubuntu
[11:11] <Gryllida> yes
[11:12] <lightbricko> mrben_: That goes for me too, but I was thinking about new users.
[11:12] <Taos> thanks person who hellped me
[11:12] <erUSUL> lightbricko: this discussion cames like a year late. pidgin does not have audio/video that was one of the primary reasons (with the fact that empathy is a framework you can ontgrate with other programs and is a *oficial* gnome thing)
[11:12] <stodorovic> rww: bitlbee? isn't that something to do with X-Bee and Arduinos? :)
[11:12] <Taos> Right now
[11:12] <veloxid> I do have some problems with the speedstepping, my dell vostro 1310 runs on full speed (2ghz) all the time.
[11:13] <veloxid> i check a few things and figured out that cpuidle is used,
[11:13] <veloxid> the scaling_govenor is on userspace, i tried to change the scaling_setspeed to 800mhz but it changes to 2ghz imediate,
[11:13] <Taos> How can I install some nvidia drivers that DONT break my display
[11:13] <stodorovic> Taos: wget the nvidia blob and run the .run file you download. :)
[11:13] <erUSUL> rww: i do not use im protocols only irc. get out of my lawn kid. XD
[11:13] <lightbricko> erUSUL: I see.
[11:14] <Taos> stodorovic: I dont understand that
[11:14] <rww> stodorovic: It's a gateway that allows me to use IM inside my IRC client by acting like an IRC server
[11:14] <bluds> when is going to be released 10.04?
[11:14] <rww> bluds: sometime on the 29th
[11:14] <erUSUL> !party > bluds
[11:14] <moetunes> veloxid: what does   cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies   show as options?
[11:14] <stodorovic> rww: ooh. Actually I think I have heard about that. I must make a note to myself to try that on my home machine tonight :)
[11:15] <dimfus> hello
[11:15] <dimfus> any1 here?
[11:15] <Gryllida> yes
[11:15] <stodorovic> Taos: which bit dont you understand?
[11:15] <rww> stodorovic: sudo apt-get install bitlbee, connect to 127.0.0.1:6667 in your IRC client, follow instructions :)
[11:15] <Gryllida> !anyone | dimfus
[11:15] <rww> dimfus: only a thousand or two
[11:15] <dimfus> hi ya
[11:15] <dimfus> erm i just installed ubuntu
[11:15] <Gryllida> !ask | dimfus
[11:16] <Gryllida> dimfus hi
[11:16] <kelvinella> it is weird i restart again, this time xubuntu run very fast
[11:16] <erUSUL> dimfus: wellcome then :)
[11:16] <dimfus> hi ok lemme say everything in 1 sentence
[11:16] <brontosaurusrex> rww: how does that work with google chat?
[11:16] <rbutler> Hi there, I've a vpn connection from Computer A to B. Now I want to ssh from B to A through that vpn connection. Is that possible and if so how to find the VPN IP of B?
[11:16] <moetunes> kelvinella: change anything?
[11:16] <dimfus> i just installed ubuntu n restarted my computer but it doesn't seem to load why is it so?
[11:16] <kelvinella> moetunes, no
[11:16] <moetunes> k
[11:16] <stodorovic> rww: thanks :) it would also be impressive if it was multi-protocol like Kopete. I'll take a look tonight :)
[11:16] <rww> brontosaurusrex: text chat works fine, video and audio do not
[11:17] <kelvinella> moetunes, i bascially reboot it and now it runs faster than ubuntu and uses less memory
[11:17] <Gryllida> dimfus some error message that you see?
[11:17] <erUSUL> dimfus: any error messages? what happens instead of loading normally?
[11:17] <kelvinella> moetunes, dont know why
[11:17] <brontosaurusrex> rww: sure, but..., well let me install...
[11:17] <kelvinella> moetunes, let me reboot one more time
[11:17] <moetunes> kelvinella: it always has here
[11:17] <dimfus> nope did not see any error msgs it just load up with the ubuntu logo then after that goes into a black screen
[11:17] <rww> brontosaurusrex: google chat is just jabber. It supports jabber just fine.
[11:17] <kelvinella> moetunes, what do u mean?
[11:17] <brontosaurusrex> rww: yeah
[11:17] <moetunes> runs faster than ubuntu and uses less memory kelvinella
[11:18] <orbit> does anyone knows if it's possible to add the window dodge effect to the ubuntu panel
[11:18] <kelvinella> moetunes, but the first time i reboot, it runs horriblely
[11:18] <se5a-nix> if B is a dns host you can see it if you... whatever the *nux equivilent of ipconfig /all is rbutler
[11:18] <dimfus> at 1st i tot its a part of the step to wait for it to load however i waited for 40mins n no screen loads up
[11:18] <rww> se5a-nix: ifconfig -a
[11:18] <moetunes> kelvinella: I don't know what to say to that
[11:18] <se5a-nix> there you go
[11:19] <kelvinella> moetunes, i now try the shutdown and hard boot
[11:19] <rww> Xubuntu is not particularly lightweight :\
[11:19] <agus> anyone know when I can get new ubuntu
[11:19] <moetunes> k
[11:19] <rww> agus: when it comes out, which should be sometime on the 29th
[11:19] <dimfus> what should i do??
[11:19] <falxx> its the 29th already
[11:19] <sgbirch> falxx: yup .. it will be released today
[11:20] <Taos> why does it say acsess denied on my graphics card when i type lspci -v
[11:20] <orbit> does anyone knows if it's possible to add the window dodge effect to the bottom ubuntu panel
[11:20] <kelvinella> moetunes, it runs smooth a lot smoother than ubuntu
[11:20] <se5a-nix> why is the remote desktop password in ubuntu limited to 8 chars?
[11:20] <dimfus> or should i uninstall ubuntu and get a better linux os?
[11:20] <rbutler> Hi se5a-nix, no I cannot see B based on dns. B is behind a firewall and not accessible. However, I can establish a vpn connection from A to B. But now I don't know how to ssh from B through that vpn connection to A
[11:20] <rww> How come every time someone says "It'll be out sometime on the 29th", people come back with "today is the 29th!" :\
[11:20] <dimfus> can any1 assist?
[11:20] <agus> anyone know when I can get new ubuntu
[11:20] <moetunes> kelvinella: it's built to use less resources but does sacrifice some things
[11:20] <orbit> agus: today
 nope did not see any error msgs it just load up with the ubuntu logo then after that goes into a black screen. weird.
[11:21] <rww> agus: There is no scheduled time. As we've said, sometime on the 29th.
[11:21] <stodorovic> rbutler: just ssh to the ip address of A....
[11:21] <Gryllida> dimfus, choose some safemode on boot?
[11:21] <ariefbayu> agus: download RC1/2 and do full upgrade, like I did:D
[11:21] <Taos> why does it say acsess denied on my graphics card when i type lspci -v
[11:21] <dimfus> er nope i let it run normally
[11:21] <orbit> does anyone knows if it's possible to add the window dodge effect to the ubuntu panel
[11:21] <dimfus> so would u prefer i do it in safe mode?
[11:21] <stodorovic> Taos: it doesn't
[11:22] <se5a-nix> stoderovic, he's on A
[11:22] <se5a-nix> stoderovic that would be the equivilitent to ssh localhost
[11:22] <rww> Taos: because not all attributes of PCI devices are exposed to non-admin users. Try sudo lspci -v if you need to see them all.
[11:22] <Avasz> how long will it take for lucid to be released?
[11:22] <stodorovic> se5a-nix: so? VPN A<=>B  ssh B, ssh A (from B)...easy!
[11:22] <dimfus> when i reboot
[11:22] <jsz> why did they put away The GIMP ? it's like the symbol of GNU
[11:22] <dimfus> they have this option when i go into ubuntu
[11:22] <dimfus> where i can press esc
[11:22] <se5a-nix> stoderovic he doesn't know the ip of B
[11:23] <stodorovic> rww: nonsense. lspci -v does not need root...
[11:23] <dimfus> n choose the type i want so which 1 should i choose?
[11:23] <se5a-nix> rbutler, do you not know the name of B?
[11:23] <rww> stodorovic: if you don't want to get errors for some of the pci device attributes it does.
[11:23] <Gryllida> dimfus, give the list of what to choose from?
[11:23] <dimfus> erm i can't rmb
[11:23] <helpme> hello
[11:23] <dimfus> there are 5 choices
[11:23] <helpme> can help me?
[11:24] <stodorovic> rww: they are not important. just "Capabilities" missing...
[11:24] <dimfus> normal graphic thingy etc
[11:24] <stodorovic> se5a-nix: he said he was already sshed to B....
[11:24] <rww> stodorovic: I didn't say they were. I was answering Taos's question.
[11:24] <agus> I can't be patient to get new release. I wait all day.
[11:24] <orbit> i have a 10.1" screen and i want both panels but i want the bottom panel to disappear when i maximize a window
[11:24] <dimfus> should i try to reinstall the whole thing again?
[11:24] <helpme> hello,, my tomcat error.. could you help me?
[11:24] <orbit> is it possible?
[11:24] <Gryllida> !isitout | agus
[11:25] <stodorovic> Gryllida: you should probably set that on auto-repeat every 5 minutes or so ;)
[11:25] <dimfus> Gryllida:  i m gona try reinstalling the thing
[11:25] <rbutler> stodorovic: You mean the vpn ip address of A? Ok, currently I'm working on A which has a vpn connection to B. In addition I currently ssh to B. So is it possible to ssh from A to B and ssh via vpn from B to A?
[11:25] <se5a-nix> stodrovic: no he said he had VPN to B, and needed to ssh
	there are 5 choices WHICH?
[11:25] <adac> Does there exist a web interface for viewing ubuntu/linux log files?
[11:25] <agus> will home page of ubuntu update soon
[11:26] <dimfus> give me a sec i need to check be back in awhile
[11:26] <Gryllida> !isitout | agus
[11:26] <Gryllida> agus, actually, it is early morning in uk now
[11:26] <stodorovic> se5a-nix: he just said he sshed to B :)
[11:26] <Gryllida> agus, actually, and some people are sleeping in usa
[11:26] <ikey_zzz> Gryllida: No it isnt.
[11:26] <stodorovic> rbutler: yes it's possible
[11:26] <Gryllida> >.<
[11:26] <ikey_zzz> Thu Apr 29 11:26:30 BST 2010
[11:26] <ikey_zzz> *coughs*
[11:26] <Gryllida> ok
[11:26] <se5a-nix> Oh right, I missed tha tone
[11:26] <se5a-nix> heh
[11:27] <agus> ooo...  it's night in indonesia :)
[11:27] <ikey_zzz> They've had plenty time for their bacon already :P
[11:27] <rbutler> stodorovic: Damn it, then I do sth. wrong :( Thanks
[11:27] <stodorovic> rbutler: just get the ip address and ssh in on the address range that's for the vpn...
[11:28] <Gryllida> dimfus,there are 5 choices, WHICH ones exactly?
[11:28] <se5a-nix> ssh bname.local?
[11:28] <Azeotrope> how can I use bluetooth on a laptop running live cd 9.04
[11:29] <Gryllida> Azeotrope, your specs? laaptop model?
[11:29] <Gryllida> !bluetooth
[11:29] <Slipie> is it there yet?
[11:29] <fincan> the funny bot is active?
[11:29] <moetunes> Slipie: what?
[11:29] <fincan> when ll it behere?
[11:29] <Slipie> Lucid
[11:29] <Azeotrope> Gryllida: dell 500
[11:30] <Slipie> what else?
[11:30] <moetunes> !isitout | Slipie
[11:30] <Gryllida> !bluetooth | Azeotrope
[11:30] <Azeotrope> thanks
[11:30] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive just installed ubuntu on a new pc(motherboard P5KPL-AM IN/G8/SI) but the monitor resolution is massive! Any suggestions please, it doesnt list anymore in display, any ideas please? I cant seem to find any additional drivers
[11:31] <Bert-> !outyet
[11:31] <Slipie> thnx!
[11:31] <Quotes> Have to say the new Lucid Lynx is *extremely impressive. If there are any developers in here, I just want to say thank you for the amazing job!
[11:31] <stodorovic> rbutler: any luck?
[11:32] <moetunes> AdvoWork: what's the vid card? - lspci will tell
[11:32] <lalalol> !+1
[11:32] <lalalol> lucid
[11:32] <lalalol> !lucid
[11:33] <Kartagis> !isitout | lalalol
[11:33] <nicholas_> !isitout
[11:33] <nicholas_> !isitout wat
[11:33] <Kartagis> nicholas_, see ubottu's previous message
[11:33] <moetunes> !msgthebot | everyone
[11:33] <stodorovic> lol
[11:33] <brontosaurusrex> rww: how come they all show-up in &bitlbee?
[11:34] <AdvoWork> moetunes, it says: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated graphics controller rev 01)
[11:34] <rww> brontosaurusrex: because that's how bitlbee works? read the help files it tells you about
[11:34] <Name141> [05:03:52:AM] : Name141 saying detected in #ubuntu by erUSUL@unaffiliated/erusul : on freenode : saying Name141: use noflash/noscript extensions for firefox ? ? | wouldn't that STOP flash instead of make it work ?
[11:34] <moetunes> AdvoWork: one min
[11:34] <brontosaurusrex> rww: ok, so its 'normal', hopefully the text i send to that channel is not distributed to them?
[11:34] <coolman> What time today is Lucid released ????
[11:35] <rww> coolman: there isn't a set time
[11:35] <tarzeau> coolman: maximum another 11 hours
[11:35] <rww> brontosaurusrex: I hate to be all "rtfm" on you, but the quickstart guide really is the best way to learn this.
[11:35] <Kartagis> what software is ubottu ?
[11:35] <erUSUL> Name141: true. but pentium II + flash in linux is a no go; imo
[11:35] <Name141> erUSUL: oh you are still here
[11:35] <rww> ubottu: botclone | Kartagis
[11:35] <brontosaurusrex> rww: yeah i'am reading all that now
[11:35] <tarzeau> i wish ubuntu throw away firefox and use chromium-browser instead
[11:35] <rbutler> stodorovic: No luck so far ... http://cbullitt.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/crying-baby_medium.jpg
[11:35] <san> ya
[11:36] <ikey> tbh you should clone from sourceforge or w/e for supybot
[11:36] <stodorovic> rbutler: not even going to access that ;) do you have the ip address of both end-points on your VPN?
[11:36] <ikey> otherwise you get the plugin bugs.
[11:36] <Mokee269> hi there .... hmmmm, i just instaleed 9.10 .. few questions (relating to ubuntu and not).. A. I probably will run this a bit , then do a re-install... is there a way to store the dl'ed packages to do a quicker offline upgrade next time? and B. I wish to write a simple GUI in a linux boot environment (live-cd, eg. knoppix, or lfs based).. xwidgets, c++ something what what could I use? glade-ruby ?
[11:36] <Name141> erUSUL: it worked enough to make it possible to watch youtube in XP
[11:36] <Kartagis> rww, thanks
[11:36] <Name141> erUSUL: what's the 'linux issue' ?
[11:36] <Schven> What time's Lucid going GA?
[11:36] <psycho_oreos> !party > Schven
[11:36] <ikey> Schven: when it gets here.
[11:37] <san> can any1 here help me please i want to change skin of my grub any links?
[11:37] <stodorovic> define: GA?
[11:37] <coolman> yea wanna know wht time to.... they should have an hour countdown
[11:37] <tarzeau> san: grub 1 or 2?
[11:37] <coolman> I need to upgrade my machine
[11:37] <Mokee269> stodorovic, im assuming he meant Generally available
[11:37] <ikey> coolman: Keep pressing F5 on ubuntu.com
[11:37] <san> i have 1 its damn boring i need a good look
[11:37] <leeb9972> hi folks, skipped my lunch to upgrade today :( anyone send me food
[11:37] <stodorovic> Mokee269: ah.
[11:37] <tarzeau> ikey: lol!
[11:37] <rww> coolman, Schven: there isn't a set time
[11:37] <tarzeau> ikey: that's mean
[11:37] <ikey> sorry xD
[11:37] <Mokee269> leeb9972, : poos in his hand and gives ya it
[11:37] <robban_> How do I mount an external USB disk so it can be share via sama?
[11:38] <tarzeau> robban_: with the right umask :)
[11:38] <Mokee269> hi there .... hmmmm, i just instaleed 9.10 .. few questions (relating to ubuntu and not).. A. I probably will run this a bit , then do a re-install... is there a way to store the dl'ed packages to do a quicker offline upgrade next time? and B. I wish to write a simple GUI in a linux boot environment (live-cd, eg. knoppix, or lfs based).. xwidgets, c++ something what what could I use? glade-ruby ?
[11:38] <leeb9972> lol
[11:38] <san> tarzeau: can u giveme link to get grub 2? or its skin?
[11:38] <tarzeau> Mokee269: don't repeat please
[11:38] <tarzeau> san: no
[11:38] <jrib> robban_: just plug it in, does that not work?
[11:38] <ikey> Mokee269: check out APTonCD
[11:38] <san> can anyone else help me?
[11:38] <jrib> san: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[11:38] <Mokee269> ok sorry tarzeau... ok thank ikey, is it an API for 'native' gui environment or?
[11:38] <robban_> jrib: no, its nly 700 permissions
[11:39] <ikey> What? No
[11:39] <ikey> Its a tool
[11:39] <Guest37606> why is my ubuntu soooo extremely slow when I turn o AHCI in my bios?
[11:39] <ikey> Stores all cached packages to a disc
[11:39] <jrib> robban_: what filesystem?
[11:39] <san> jrib: ok  i need a good looking grub
[11:39] <jrib> !grub2 > san
[11:39] <Gryllida> !bios
[11:39] <robban_> jrib: fat32 on one and ntfs on the other
[11:39] <tarzeau> san: because you spend 5 hours a day looking at grub?
[11:39] <ikey> xD
[11:39] <Mokee269> haha.. lol ok... it's just that I have been struggling with finding underlying architecture in limitedboot envrionments so question prolly sounded a bit tarded
[11:39] <Ervis> anyone download ubuntu 10.04
[11:40] <ikey> Doubtful.
[11:40] <coz_> Ervis,  it is not released yet
[11:40]  * ikey f5's again
[11:40] <san> tarzeau: no no i just started searching
[11:40] <Mokee269> ikey: Ah I see, that was to question A.. I thought you meant Q B. sorry mate... thank a lot... :)
[11:40] <jrib> !ntfs > robban_
[11:40] <NoObik> \j #ubuntu-pt
[11:40] <Kartagis> what does ubottu use? sqlite?
[11:40] <tarzeau> san: don't delay the release of the lucid lynx
[11:40] <robban_> jrib: in 9.10 i used a script, devkit to unmount and mount again, this doesn't work anymore after upragding to 10.04rc
[11:40] <coz_> Ervis,  if you want to know when it is actually released  log onto #ubuntu+1   when you are redirected to this channel it is released
[11:40] <Ervis> coz_, its 29  today :)
[11:40] <jrib> robban_: just make sure you use the noauto option as well as what ubottu suggests
[11:40] <tarzeau> ikey: that was for you
[11:40] <san> tarzeau: sorry?
[11:40] <jrib> robban_: for lucid support, #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <tarzeau> ikey: you will collapse the internet!
[11:41] <ikey> xD
[11:41] <coz_> Ervis,  i believe in a few hours
[11:41] <ikey> i usually do actually :/
[11:41] <tarzeau> san: wasn't for you but ikey
[11:41] <stodorovic> ikey: just wait for the /. effect :)
[11:41] <ikey> Kartagis: /join #supybot
[11:41] <ikey> ohgod
[11:41] <san> tarzeau: it sok
[11:41] <ikey> People will end up on facebook trying to log into launchpad ._.
[11:41] <Yizi> it will be out in couple of hours, its based on UK time
[11:41] <mechanicles> how to update Gedit from 2.26.1 to 2.30.2
[11:41] <ikey> Yizi: Lunch time in 20 minutes, don't expect miracles
[11:42] <azlon> how can i make an iso from a folder? i have a ripped DVD and i want to add the VIDEO_TS to a whatever.iso
[11:42] <fromspace> i don't get it.. what was the reason behind the change in position of the min/max/close buttons?
[11:42] <ikey> azlon: man mkisofs
[11:42] <fincan> its release time cancled because of a critical bug, CHECK the main website
[11:42] <coz_> fromspace,  it is a mystery  as far as I can tell
[11:42] <Yizi> ikey: i wasn't ;)
[11:42] <ikey> fromspace: easy enough to change
[11:42] <azlon> ikey, thanks
[11:42] <ikey> fromspace: use gconf
[11:42] <jrib> !lucid | fromspace
[11:42] <san> is it safe to upgrade to 10.04? or it has some bugs?
[11:42] <fincan> its release time cancled because of a critical bug, CHECK the main website
[11:42] <coz_> fromspace,  you can change that with a ppa that has corrected the left handed issue
[11:42] <tarzeau> san: we don't know yet
[11:42] <ikey> san: "critical bug"
[11:42] <jrib> san: it's not "safe" until released
[11:42] <ikey> usually means "no"
[11:42] <tarzeau> san: but the betas i tried had some critical bugs for me
[11:43] <tarzeau> they're even documented on launchpad.net bugs
[11:43] <Mokee269> ok, let me re-phrase... say I log in to a rescue shell... and wish to have a GUI available... which tools/language/libs should/could I use for this GUI?
[11:43] <moetunes> AdvoWork: which ubuntu you using?
[11:43] <tarzeau> namels: ltsp problems, lvm with the kernel, and nis/autofs
[11:43] <ikey> Mokee269: C + ncurses
[11:43] <san> ok thanks guyz
[11:43] <Mokee269> thank you ikey!
[11:43] <bobanenceto> @fincan: u are lying :P
[11:43] <jrib> Mokee269: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[11:43] <rbutler> stodorovic: works http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo287/Mistidakitten/Funny/thm_phpIq1nuF1.gif
[11:43] <tarzeau> i hope some of them are fixed. also the gnome/kde menu editors were badly broken in karmic
[11:43] <fincan> @bobanenceto: yeah xD
[11:43] <rbutler> stodorovic: thanks
[11:43] <ikey> Mokee269: terminal user interface. don't expect on a working x.org whatsoever. rather depend on a working tty.
[11:44] <ikey> otherwise its a pointless rescue ;)
[11:45] <miguel000> Any idea why AHCI is so slow with my ubuntu?
[11:45] <msanchez> san: I'm on Lucid now and I can say it's pretty stable in my case
[11:45] <ikey> miguel000: Check 'dmesg' straight after booting
[11:45] <ikey> You should find messages relating to it.
[11:45] <msanchez> I'm not seeing crashes nor anything in bad shape since many days ago
[11:46] <miguel000> ikey oook thanks
[11:46] <abtomik> Hello Guys, where can i find Lucid 10.04 stable? I am only seeing the RCs
[11:46] <jrib> !lucid | abtomik
[11:46] <msanchez> it's not released yet
[11:46] <msanchez> but it's planned for today
[11:46] <digitaloktay> abtomik you can install rc then you have less problem with download stable
[11:47] <AdvoWork> moetunes, 9.10
[11:47] <abtomik> Thanks guys
[11:47] <dum> how can i determine the card number of my audio sound card
[11:48] <dum> does anyone know how to do this?
[11:48] <lovre> hi all
[11:48] <tugrul> lspci |grep -i audio
[11:48] <Mokee269> jrib: I want to boot a computer with a linux kernel, runa  gui for a total beginner, which basically sets up a recovery environment a la OEM's provide .. (however, since linux itself does this with its own distros, I want to do this for windows peeps, so they stop posting 15000 OMG I have to pay to fix this, when all they need is to set up partitions themselves and put som eimage files etc)
[11:48] <moetunes> AdvoWork: from google it ashould be supported - do you have a xorg.conf?
[11:48] <lovre> sorry for offtopic: does anyone have access to springerlink? i need this pdf: http://www.springerlink.com/content/hq35136r2w2r5824/
[11:48] <jrib> lovre: if you know it's offtopic, why would you ask... please don't
[11:49] <Mokee269> now many of them can't so I thought I'd make a tool for them, ... now originally with new licenses and tools in win 7, they now can do it with no 3rd party toools (so wanted ot make an interface for them...) but this interface needs to run also either in A. the winpe environment or a linux environment.. I wish to make a GUI either way
[11:49] <lovre> jrib: because there is no place this would be on topic?
[11:49] <xyz>  10.04 released guys
[11:49] <jrib> lovre: in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel?
[11:49] <xyz> go n start downloading
[11:49] <jrib> xyz: please don't do that
[11:49] <crazyman> clear
[11:50] <lovre> jrib: oops, i didnt know that, sorry
[11:51] <Fudge> hi guys, im trying to remember the name of a script in repos that lets you choose from xfce or gnome instead of using login screen to do it
[11:51] <kelvinella> how to install codec to play avi?
[11:51] <ovis> hello everybody
[11:51] <Mokee269> ye am upgrading now :p
[11:51] <ubutom> anyone knows a program to use with korg nano key keyboard?
[11:51] <ovis> i have a problem with sond
[11:51] <jrib> kelvinella: double click on it, you will be prompted.  Or just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:51] <ovis> sound
[11:51] <dum> tugrul: but which is the card number?
[11:51] <huono> Any idea does 10.4 support old at radeon graphics gards? (Radeon 9600)
[11:52] <kelvinella> i double click it after installing some gstream thing and still cant play
[11:52] <jrib> !lucid | huono
[11:52] <stodorovic> rbutler: it's all working? good :)
[11:52] <erUSUL> ubutom: midi sequencer? DAW ?
[11:52] <jrib> kelvinella: did you see the second thing I said?
[11:52] <Mokee269> jrib: did you see my reply? any thoughts?
[11:52] <jrib> Mokee269: still not sure what you are doing
[11:52] <Mokee269> ikey: do I *have* toinvoke the X server to run any form of gui??
[11:52] <ubutom> erUSUL, I installed some programs, but they don'r really work, will look into DAW
[11:52] <kelvinella> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[11:52] <ikey> Mokee269: yerp
[11:52] <Mokee269> okidokie
[11:52] <jrib> kelvinella: sure
[11:53] <erUSUL> ubutom: DAW is digital audio workstation ---> ardour
[11:53] <erUSUL> |info ardour
[11:53] <erUSUL> !info ardour
[11:53] <stodorovic> Mokee269: are you not in the wrong channel to ask programming questions? #c++ #c  etc?
[11:53] <erUSUL> ubutom: #ubuntustudio
[11:53] <cham> does anyone know where mailx's config file is? Or alternatively how to run the setup wizard agin which ran the first time I installed it via apt-get?
[11:53] <ubutom> yeah, thanks, gonna check that out :)
[11:53] <Mokee269> (darn... my first laptop 11 yrs or so, was a medion, back then a non typical brand on X server = TEZ NUTZ when it also was my first try on linux sigh) hates X therefore in any manual form but ah well
[11:53] <stodorovic> Mokee269: interesting idea though for a recovery boot thingy like what some OEMs do
[11:54] <erUSUL> cham: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mailx
[11:54] <ovis> people
[11:54] <ovis> please help
[11:54] <ovis> sound its not working
[11:54] <ovis> im on ubuntu lynx
[11:54] <rbutler> lovre: you got the article
[11:55] <erUSUL> ovis: #ubuntu+1
[11:55] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > ovis
[11:55] <tube_> Hi all. I'm trying to modify a bootable ISO (copied from a CD), and then burn it back to another CD. I've been playing with ISO Master and Kiso, but both have let me down so far. With ISO Master, even if I don't make any changes to the ISO, when I burn it back the computer seems to almost boot, but just stops with a black screen and blinking cursor. With Kiso, the image is reported as "not bootable". Any advice?
[11:55] <Mokee269> stodorovic,  thank you... the thing is, it is simple to make now through added tools even in the windows system.. problem is, not for 'newbies' .. so wished to make a GUI for them, to intro them to the world of relying on yourself...(ironic lol), but anyway... the prob is the winpe environment lacks so many underlying libs I want to do it just from a linux environmnet...
[11:55] <erUSUL> !remaster | tube_
[11:55] <cham> erUSUL: I tried that before and again now, and that just drops me to the next line in the shell.. so it doesnt look like it has any effect.
[11:55] <Mokee269> given they are windows noobs, they surely are linux naabs too, so I need to make a simple GUI at least
[11:56] <erUSUL> cham: are you sure mailx has configuration?
[11:56] <vvsh> hello, how can i make netcat continues to listen to the port when the client disconnected ?
[11:56] <dimfus> hey i m back
[11:56] <dimfus> Gryllida:
[11:56] <dimfus> u there?
[11:56] <erUSUL> cham: maybe what you configured was the mta ... (postfix or exim) ?
[11:56] <tube_> erUSUL: OK cool, is remaster only for modifying Ubuntu? I'm trying to edit a Windows XP ISO
[11:56] <robban_> jrib: /dev/sdb1   /media/usbdisk  vfat   noauto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0, but it sill mounts with access only for the owner :(
[11:56] <Brunsgaard> Is ther a countdown for 10.04?
[11:56] <psycho_oreos> !party | Brunsgaard
[11:56] <pepePlu> ok when is it out
[11:56] <dimfus> i have reinstalled ubuntu but after that it did show some screen
[11:57] <dimfus> but hanged after that
[11:57] <dimfus> how can i fix it?
[11:57] <erUSUL> tube_: for windows isos ##windows seees a better place....
[11:57] <Sn0rl4y> witam
[11:57] <Sn0rl4y> jest ktos z Polski ?
[11:57] <cham> erUSUL: what I saw the first time was a wizard that asked me where my smtp server was.. so I assume it was mailx that was being configured..
[11:57] <erUSUL> !party | Brunsgaard
[11:57] <Brunsgaard> psycho_oreos:  thx..
[11:57] <jrib> robban_: it shouldn't, anyway you said you were using lucid, you should ask #ubuntu+1 since maybe some things changed
[11:57] <tube_> erUSUL: Fair enough, but I'm running Ubuntu
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> !pl > Sn0rl4y
[11:57] <mechanicles> how to update Gedit from 2.26.1 to 2.30.2... pls help me
[11:57] <dimfus> erm can any1 please assist me?
[11:57] <Sn0rl4y> !pl
[11:57] <jrib> robban_: also, you shouldn't use sdb1 but either the uuid or the label
[11:57] <dotnet67> can the boot-up "mountall" fail due to a change in /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/rc.local?
[11:58] <AdvoWork> moetunes, no xorg.conf tried to add one, doing sudo Xorg -configure as a few guides suggested, but it didnt axctually make a xorg.conf file. Ive tried xRandR which also didnt work. Any suggestions please?
[11:58] <Mokee269> euUSUL, well I know what to do with all the windows relating bits... I was looking to a linux question as how to launch a simple windows with some questions in it etc, in a linux env
[11:58] <dotnet67> or does it happen before
[11:58] <Mokee269> :)
[11:58] <robban_> jrib: ok, i will. however this has been the same in 9.10
[11:58] <mrp> where do i edit how many workspaces i have?
[11:58] <dimfus> hiya can any1 help me?
[11:58] <Mokee269> ubottu lol nice bot which recognises polish evenn wow
[11:58] <joaopinto> dotnet67, mountall does not depend on network or rc.local
[11:58] <respire> Can anyone recommend a better password manager than keypassx?
[11:58] <Mokee269> (respire... your mind ;p)
[11:58] <respire> Mokee269, yeah right with 10000 of truly randoms i think no
[11:59] <stodorovic> Mokee269: so? just make it. no winpe needed, surely. hidden partition. special entry in grub etc. special kernel + special FBdev app or maybe minimal x11 based system?
[11:59] <thrope> sorry for silly question - any idea when 10.4 iso will be available, have to install a machine today (uk time) and wondering whether to wait
[11:59] <respire> I just keep an encrypted list
[11:59] <Mokee269> In england, I didn't have a mobile so I used to just rememeber all my mobile phone numbers of friends, in case I needed to contact them
[11:59] <respire> but the keypassx is naff
[11:59] <dotnet67> guess the filesystem decided to corrupt itself ;/ it keeps hanging boot after failing mountall
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> !party > thrope
[11:59] <kitallis> k
[11:59] <Abyss_> hi, my ubuntu 9.10 used to have a proxy , now it doesnt but it still looks for a proxy when i install software, under system proxies its set, system wide, to direct connection, is this a bug?
[11:59] <moetunes> AdvoWork: you need to stop X to use Xorg -configure and it makes a file xorg.conf.new in your home folder
[11:59] <erUSUL> cham: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[11:59] <Mokee269> thrope is it already: im downloading it now (10.04) that is
[11:59] <robban_> jrib: ok i'll have another go, thanks
[12:00] <sam204475> so many people.
[12:00] <teolicy> Hi. I hope this isn't flamebait, but does anyone know exactly when 10.04 is supposed to be released (how many hours from now)?
[12:00] <psycho_oreos> !party > teolicy
[12:00] <dimfus> can any1 assist me
[12:00] <Mokee269> hmm I guess... jrib: could I ask if you concur with ikey's proposal on ncurses as the best path?
[12:00] <MrNaz> i know we're not supposed to ask this of an open source project....
[12:00] <MrNaz> ... but where the hell is the next version? :)
[12:01] <E3b> hello all
[12:01] <dimfus> i m having a problem
[12:01] <Mokee269> (for GUI in post linux boot environment?)
[12:01] <teolicy> psycho_oreos, Aye, thanks, sorry.
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> !party > MrNaz
[12:01] <dimfus> i installed ubuntu but it hangs when i reboot my comp
[12:01] <E3b> someone can tell me how can I upgrade to 10.04 ?
[12:01] <jrib> Mokee269: sure, I don't see its usefulness though
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > E3b
[12:01] <Gryllida> !party > Gryllida
[12:01] <Daijoubu> it's kinda quite for almost 2k people waiting for the new release :) lol
[12:01] <AdvoWork> moetunes, and so it would be a brand new file? and then what?
[12:01] <dimfus> gryllida
[12:01] <ubuntu> How did I get the name ubuntu?
[12:01] <dimfus> u there?
[12:01] <ikey> Gryllida: You PM'd yourself?
[12:01] <ikey> lol.
[12:01] <Gryllida> yes
[12:01] <erUSUL> ubuntu: livecd defaults
[12:01] <ikey> fair nuff.
[12:02] <wolfwalker-prime> No dimfus I'm here.  YOU are there. :)
[12:02] <dimfus> hey i just reinstalled my ubuntu
[12:02] <MrNaz> psycho_oreos thanks
[12:02] <stodorovic> ****** Just set !party and !lucid on auto-repeat every few minuites and be done with it *** :)
[12:02] <dimfus> n i can see the load up screen but it hangs
[12:02] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[12:02] <Mokee269> E3b: nto the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '10.04' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.
[12:02] <dimfus> why is this so?
[12:02] <TuringA> oh can't wait to download lucid lynx!
[12:02] <Mokee269> oh oops... well nvm.. i realized what party means so :p
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> !party > TuringA
[12:02] <snowhouse> Hi all I'm trying to make my ipod work with karmik koala. It recognizes it and has no problems mounting it but when I try to add songs it gives me this error: Error opening file "media/MyIpod/ipodcontrol/music/f10/mysong':read only file system does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:02] <Mokee269> TuringA,  LOL
[12:02] <msanchez> TuringA: just sudo aptitude safe-upgrade then ;-)
[12:02] <erUSUL> !iop
[12:03] <erUSUL> !ipod
[12:03] <se5a-nix> !party > se5a-nix
[12:03] <foomor> will 10.04 have kernel 2.6.33 or still 2.6.32?
[12:03]  * se5a-nix was feeling left out
[12:03] <erUSUL> !botabuse
[12:03] <Daijoubu> 32
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > foomor
[12:03] <rww> foomor: 2.6.32
[12:03] <msanchez> 2.6.32 I guess
[12:03] <thrope> Mokee269: where from? do you have a link
[12:03] <Daijoubu> i hoped for 33 but noes :/
[12:03] <dimfus> aguahhh no 1 is helpng me out =/
[12:04] <Daijoubu> dimfus what version ?
[12:04] <E3b> Mokee269, thanks
[12:04] <dimfus> 9.10
[12:04] <Daijoubu> dimfus>
[12:04] <Mokee269> a kernel change would normally be on a X.X change rather then A.AX change
[12:04] <Daijoubu> dimfus oops ask again then can't help with that one o-o
[12:04] <dimfus> Daijoubu: v9.10
[12:04] <mechanicles> how to update Gedit from 2.26.1 to 2.30.2... pls help me friends
[12:04] <moetunes> AdvoWork: then you add to the screen section thr mode yu want e.g 1280x1024  mode
[12:04] <dimfus> Daijoubu:  huh?
[12:05] <Gryllida> !Gedit
[12:05] <Daijoubu> dimfus ask your question again in the channel because i can't help you with 9.10
[12:05] <dimfus> oh
[12:05] <dimfus> Daijoubu: what version are u using?
[12:05] <Daijoubu> dimfus lucid
[12:06] <knittl> hi. i got a question concerning 64 bit
[12:06] <robban_> jrib: Many, many thanks!!! Problem sovled after so many hours of frustration! Excuse my poore knowledge, kind a new to linux
[12:06] <Daijoubu> dimfus did you try live cd for 9.10 does it hang as well?
[12:06] <dimfus> erm nope i downloaded it and mounted it
[12:06] <jrib> robban_: no problem, did you have to do anything other than mess with fstab?
[12:06] <knittl> lshw shows my memory controller hub has a width of 32 bits
[12:06] <Azeotrope> I do have bluetooth (both sign and LED) on my laptop but ubuntu 9.04 sais it can't detect any built-n bt device. why?
[12:06] <robban_> jrib: nop
[12:06] <jrib> robban_: cool
[12:06] <knittl> does that mean i cannot use a full 4 gb of ram, even with a 64 bit system?
[12:07] <AdvoWork> moetunes, any examples, ie what else needs to be in, as its a new file ive got nothing to go on
[12:07] <Mokee269> jrib: well it's for ppl hopeless with windows or just not very technically able... to make their recovery system..why? Due to things like: no more guarantee ; recovery system corrupt and no recovery dvd's given; want to customize their custom image which is recovered rather than their crappy OEM base one... etc (I have made a GUI front end on the windows side) now I need to make the juice which sets it all up in a boot envrionment
[12:07] <ikey> knittl: 32-bit kernel will mean you can only use 3.2GB of total memory
[12:07] <dimfus> Daijoubu: erm nope i downloaded it and mounted it
[12:07] <knittl> ikey: i'm talking about 64 bit kernel
[12:07] <ikey> You'll either need a 64-bit OS or a PAE-enabled kernel
[12:07] <moetunes> AdvoWork: I'll paste mine
[12:07] <knittl> ikey: and it's 3.5, because that is what i can use right now
[12:07] <jrib> Mokee269: I see
[12:07] <Mokee269> winpe sucks in all honesty.. so I wished to do it linux wise but can't assume the ones im trying ot make lie easier for , will know lijnux, so need the GUI
[12:08] <Mokee269> :)
[12:08] <linda_> hi everyone
[12:08] <knittl> and i'm asking about hardware
[12:08] <Daijoubu> dimfus emm really you should ask in the channel again maybe someone can help you, or you can wait a bit for Ubuntu Lucid to be released and try with Lucid
[12:08] <Mokee269> just because many of us use windows.. doesn't mean they .we don't deserve willingness to help either
[12:08] <dimfus> alrighty
[12:08] <snowhouse> !rockbox
[12:08] <Mokee269> they/we*
[12:09] <moetunes> AdvoWork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424543/
[12:09] <Mokee269> plus this way, they are less bound by the whims of M$ qnd OEM's , and when they see the driving force behind the set up is linux, might make them go hmm yaaay.. should maybe try this out... one day we all will be brothers and sisters ;)
[12:09] <flodine> hello is anyone using xmobar on openbox?
[12:09] <misamanus> Ubuntu 10.04 is not available on the website
[12:10] <erUSUL> !outyet > misamanus
[12:10] <AdvoWork> moetunes, cheers, so once i put that in xorg.conf do i need to reboot?
[12:10] <misamanus> when will i be able to download it
[12:10] <Mokee269> misamanus sigh : To upgrade from Ubuntu 9.10 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '10.04' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.
[12:11] <moetunes> AdvoWork: ctrl+alt+backspace will do it - close all apps first
[12:11] <erUSUL> !dontzap
[12:11] <KeithWeisshar> why hasn't usuntu 10.04 lts been released yet?
[12:11] <digitaloktay> * FloodBot4 setzt Modus +j #ubuntu 5:10  what is this ?
[12:12] <KeithWeisshar> ubuntu 10.04
[12:12] <rww> digitaloktay: join rate limit. feel free to ignore it
[12:12] <rww> KeithWeisshar: because it's not done yet
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> !party > KeithWeisshar
[12:12] <Gryllida> O_______o
[12:13] <jaran> is the update available through the update manager the final version of 10.04, or a release candidate?
[12:13] <Avash|DebXo> !party > Avash|DebXo
[12:13] <Mokee269> RC i think
[12:13] <iceroot> jaran: final
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > jaran
[12:13] <Mokee269> oops
[12:13] <Dan_E> ubuntu 10.04
[12:13] <Mokee269> Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop! -> 10.04 : Alt + F2 : (type) update-manager -d -> choose upgrade
[12:13] <iceroot> jaran: if you dont choose "use beta-software"
[12:14] <Mokee269> am on 75% of 10.04 dl weeee
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> !party > Mokee269
[12:15] <Mokee269> anyway.. thx for ncurses... actually completely
[12:15] <fargurd> is there a torrent link?
[12:15] <ikey> brb
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> !lucid > fargurd
[12:15] <sangho> 10.04  is released?
[12:15] <rww> Ubuntu 10.04 has not been released yet.
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> !party > sangho
[12:15] <Mokee269> rww im dl it now
[12:15] <Mokee269> it is
[12:15] <rww> Mokee269: no, you're not.
[12:15] <rww> it's not
[12:15] <Mokee269> erm
[12:15] <Mokee269> im on 80%
[12:15] <sangho> http://ftp.daum.net/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ in this link. what is the ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:16] <sangho> it's not marked "rc"
[12:16] <rww> sangho, Mokee269: pool URLs are for internal mirror syncing. They often -- and in this case definitely -- do not contain final ISO images.
[12:16] <DJones> !links | sangho
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> sangho, -> #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <Mokee269> oh right.. im downloading RC version :$
[12:16] <rww> correct
[12:16]  * Mokee269 runs and hides!
[12:17] <Mokee269> lol i literally just got red faced.. and logging offf :)
[12:17] <Mokee269> ;p
[12:17] <Sjimmie> !party
[12:18] <azlon> how can i make a script that i can put in my context menu? i want to run a command on a folder...
[12:18] <erUSUL> azlon: search in google how to make nautilus scripts
[12:18] <Slart> azlon: there is something called nautilus actions.. that might be useful
[12:19] <erUSUL> azlon: ^
[12:19] <azlon> thanks
[12:19] <Kills> how do I know when 10.04 comes out?
[12:19] <Slart> !info nautilus-actions | azlon
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> !party > Kills
[12:19] <Gryllida> O___o
[12:19] <rww> Kills: the topic in here will be changed, http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce will be notified, ubuntu.com will change...
[12:19] <Slart> azlon: it's got a nice little gui if I remember correctly.. you can select if it should only show up on some files, all files, folders etc etc
[12:20] <Kills> thx
[12:21] <dimfus> how long more till lucid is out?
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> !party > dimfus
[12:21] <Avash|DebXo> !party > Avash|DebXo
[12:21] <Slart> dimfus: because you went ahead and asked in the wrong channel.. one extra hour.. and no soup for you! ;)
[12:21] <dimfus> =(
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> too many people just won't read /topic
[12:22] <Yum> !party
[12:22] <phenrique> anyone know a irc channel that treats about IHC? I wanted an indication of material on the following contents: human-computer interaction: concepts and principles / criteria recommendations of user-computer interaction, models of user interaction. styles of presentation of information, criteria and ergonomic recommendations, user documentation.
[12:22] <overmacht> !party > Avash|DebXo
[12:22] <cdavis> Is thre a iCal/Parser.pm in the repos, I don't see anything that seems like it
[12:22] <sergiu14> hi, at what hour will ubuntu 10.04 be released?
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> !party > sergiu14
[12:23] <Quasimodo> !party
[12:23] <jayage> privmsg ubottu
[12:24] <Moult> so if ubuntu 10.04 has a fancy new look what about kubuntu?
[12:24] <Avash|DebXo> overmacht, har har har
[12:24] <tottto-drummond> Is Lucid Lynx out yet ?
[12:24] <LjL> !outyet > tottto-drummond    (tottto-drummond, see the private message from ubottu)
[12:25] <Slart> this channel needs a forced redirect to everyone that mentions lucid just after they join =/
[12:25] <coolman> Im waiting for Lucid aswell, it should be countdown by the hour
[12:25] <crazyman> where can I find the code of usb driver?
[12:25] <Slart> crazyman: isn't it available in the kernel source package?
[12:26] <crazyman> oh , I can't find usb-skeleton.c in /drivers/usb
[12:26] <Slart> crazyman: hmm.. nope.. I can't find that file either
[12:27] <Slart> crazyman: sure it's available in the 2.6.31 kernel?
[12:27] <rww> coolman: stop crossposting and just enthuse in #ubuntu-release-party, please.
[12:27] <crazyman> not sure
[12:29] <nexus6__> i want to buy a new computer and need some advise. please pm me if you have some hardware knowledge
[12:29] <Fudge> hi how can i change the login desktop with a shell script
[12:30] <Fudge> cant remember the name of the script to apt-get
[12:30] <psycho_oreos> nexus6__, -> ##hardware
[12:31] <tgalal> when is lucid going to be available for download today ?!
[12:31] <nexus6__> hardware is kinda dead lol
[12:31] <Fudge> is already
[12:31] <Slart> !party | tgalal
[12:31] <psycho_oreos> !offtopic | Fudge
[12:31] <Slart> nexus6__: that still doesn't make it ok to ask in here
[12:32] <psycho_oreos> it isn't dead there when you were talking in that other channel
[12:32] <bjorn_> Hi, I tried to install exiftool but the package could not be installed. Is exiftool not in the repositories anymore?
[12:32] <Slart> crazyman: odd.. when I search for usb-skeleton.c in google I get lots of hits that seem to reference kernel source files
[12:33] <Slart> !info libimage-exiftool-perl | bjorn_ , is this the one?
[12:34] <Slart> !find exiftool
[12:34] <Slart> it seems to install a /usr/bin/exiftool at least
[12:35] <BiggFREE> Hi
[12:35] <Slart> hello BiggFREE
[12:36] <crazyman> strange..
[12:36] <Slart> crazyman: find anything?
[12:36] <Azeotrope> I do have bluetooth (both sign and LED) on my laptop but ubuntu 9.04 sais it can't detect any built-n bt device. why?
[12:37] <crazyman> no,I just don't know why it'nt there
[12:37] <WorkLux> good morning everyone
[12:38] <gabriel> when I go to a text terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+<F1> I go to tty. what does is stands for (tty) ???
[12:38] <nucc1> i added a new repository, did apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and it says the "following packages have been held back"
[12:38] <crazyman> haha...I find it
[12:39] <nucc1> instead of upgrading them
[12:39] <randeep> alo can i knw upload command for ubuntu
[12:39] <Slart> gabriel: wikipedia says it's short for TeleTYpewriter
[12:39] <BaronFlopsy> Woo Hoo So excited!!
[12:39] <rww> gabriel: teletypewriter
[12:39] <Slart> randeep: upload command?
[12:40] <randeep> ya
[12:40] <randeep> pls
[12:40] <randeep> slart
[12:40] <ikey> upload what?
[12:40] <gabriel> Slart, rww thanks m8's
[12:40] <ikey> what protocol?
[12:40] <Slart> BaronFlopsy: nice to see you excited for 9.10... since that's what we talk about in here.. not like in #ubuntu-release-party where they talk about 10.04.. hint hint
[12:40] <randeep> local file to remote server ikey
[12:40] <ikey> Via what protocol?
[12:41] <Slart> randeep: using what? ftp? http? ssh?
[12:41] <randeep> http
[12:41] <ikey> wut
[12:41] <ikey> curl.
[12:41] <ikey> If its http.
[12:41] <randeep> ikey slart u got me
[12:41] <eon_> HELLOOO!!!
[12:41] <randeep> ya ikey if it http. wat
[12:42] <BaronFlopsy> Slart: Sorry!! Cant help my self... Joining other room :)
[12:42] <ikey> curl.
[12:42] <ikey> or firefox.
[12:42] <ikey> ..sigh.
[12:42] <Slart> BaronFlopsy: =)
[12:42] <randeep> firefox ah
[12:42] <eon_> can any1 tell me how i hide the cursor in the console?
[12:42] <eon_> not the mouse cursor
[12:42] <randeep> alo ikey answering me?
[12:42] <eon_> the blinking cursor
[12:42] <ikey> about six times mate.
[12:43] <beli> eon_: depends on your terminal emulator
[12:43] <randeep> alo any body knw command for uploading
[12:43] <eon_> gnome? :S
[12:43]  * ikey never knew internet deafness existed
[12:43] <fincan> any news about the release time?
[12:43] <ikey> randeep: use your browser or curl.
[12:43] <beli> eon_: thats not a terminal emulator.....i speak of xterm, eterm, nterm,Terminal, whatever
[12:43] <Slart> fincan: yes.. lots of news.. it's all they talk about.. in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:43] <randeep> curl ikey
[12:44] <eon_> beli: how do i find out? lol (sry for numbness)
[12:44] <randeep> alo ikey gt me
[12:44] <bsfc32> anyone knows if my speedstream 4200 usb modem will be detected? I read a bit about some particular kernel modules for usb support, but I don't have the ISO burnt yet...
[12:44] <ikey> ...
[12:45] <beli> eon_: open a termina....in common the name is in the window bar...otherwise check the shortcut...right click on it....properties
[12:45] <sam204475> NEED  HELP with a webcam.  works fine in Cheese but dont work in Skype or anything else.  Running  Ubuntu 9.10.
[12:45] <randeep> beli can u help to knw upload cmd in ubuntu
[12:45] <^ookami^> sam204475: probably needs some LD_PRELOAD hack
[12:45] <beli> randeep: explain what you want to do
[12:45] <Slart> eon_: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:u7zv6jDUAYwJ:www.chrishowie.com/2008/03/28/gnome-terminal-cursor/+gnome+terminal+hide+cursor&cd=1&hl=sv&ct=clnk&gl=se&client=firefox-a
[12:45] <ikey> Would need the legacy v4l
[12:46] <randeep> i need to upload a file to remote server thru http
[12:46] <ikey> as ^ookami^ pointed out, preload
[12:46] <Slart> eon_: the original site is gone.. but the cache is still available.. it seems the gnome people remove the ability to "hide" the cursor
[12:46] <moetunes> !who ikey
[12:46] <ikey> randeep: You've been answered several dozen times and are making yourself a nuisance. If you refuse to listen to answers then do not ask the questions.
[12:46] <moetunes> !who | ikey
[12:46] <beli> randeep: http/php is server side stuff...so your "server" needs to offer the service for you
[12:47] <ikey> moetunes: aware of that. thanks.
[12:47] <moetunes> np
[12:47] <eon_> Slart: gnarr...thx anyway :)
[12:47] <ikey> I've used his name several times. Not my problem if he has selective irc hearing :)
[12:47] <randeep> ya i can access remote server and manage
[12:47] <beli> randeep: why not upload via tcp/ip or ftp or scp?
[12:47] <randeep> but i need to knw the command to upload
[12:48] <ikey> Most webservers offer a ftpd.
[12:48] <Slart> eon_: oh.. found something   gconf-editor? Set the value of /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_blink_mode to “off”. The default is "System"
[12:48] <beli> ikey: ? websevers offer ftpd? NO
[12:48] <thinkertinker> Hi,I would like to create a repo of selected packages for offline installation of packages for lucid...Is there a particular folder hierarchy i need to follow?(like /dists/lucid/main etcc) or will a single folder of packages and a packages.gz work ?
[12:48] <iceroot> ikey: good webservers dont do that
[12:48] <ikey> randeep: If its your server set up ssh (openssh-server) and scp to it (man scp), if not find out their ftp server (if they have one) and use file-zilla or something appropriate.
[12:48] <ikey> iceroot: beli: read last post.
[12:48] <ikey> before jumping in ;)
[12:48] <ikey> * :)
[12:49] <beli> ikey: ftp != ftpd
[12:49] <technopagan> My apologies for my ignorance, but shouldn't the Indicator applet, like, indicate something? I've got Gwibber, Pidgin etc. running, but all the applet does is show the usual envelope-icon. Clicking it only shows the list of supported apps. There's no notification for new tweets, mail or anything. Am I not running a necessary daemon?
[12:49] <ikey> beli: obviously.
[12:49] <iceroot> ikey: you said a webserver (apache is a webserver) has ftpd
[12:49] <ikey> No i did not mean that at all
[12:49] <beli> ikey: but you said it ;)
[12:49] <ikey> picky != support.
[12:49] <iceroot> ikey: you mean a lamp
[12:49] <azlon> Slart, im trying to make an iso file from a ripped dvd. for some reason when i do mkisofs -o filename.iso -dvd-video /path/to/video_ts   it doesnt work... any suggestions?
[12:49] <randeep> thanks beli ikey and all i gt it
[12:50] <eon_> Slart: what i really wanted was a "temporary" disable...i have a script in ruby, much of a watch, and the cursor just goes forth and back when deleting the "characters" i wat to delete
[12:50] <ikey> iceroot: I know what I mean. The thoughts originated in my head so I'm fully aware of what they are :)
[12:50] <Slart> azlon: oh.. I've never messed with mkisofs like that.. I use devede or similar tools to create dvd's from avi movies and such
[12:51] <colombian> Gentlemen, how do I access the field of a model given a string of its name
[12:51] <Slart> eon_: oh.. no idea then.. I just thought the blinking cursor annoyed you =)
[12:51] <BiggFREE> bbl
[12:51] <colombian> Ie modelInstance['fieldName']
[12:51] <colombian> Whoops, wrong channel, sorry
[12:51] <ikey> colombian: #python → that way
[12:51] <eon_> Slart: i got that some people get anoyed, not my case :) thnx anyway!
[12:52] <Slart> eon_: you're welcome
[12:52] <A_Rnt> Hi! what about ubuntu 10.04?
[12:52] <z0net> A_Rnt, coming soon :o
[12:52] <hateball> !party
[12:53] <wolfwalker-prime> You don't want to go to the release party channel.  It's far more stupid there.
[12:53] <ucenik10> kaj si be dani
[12:53] <SuperRoach> /join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:53] <SuperRoach> is the string for it - its been hectic leading up earlier today.
[12:53] <k-hyoga> hey, it's nice to be in a 1700 people channel
[12:53] <wolfwalker-prime>  /don't-join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:54] <bentkus> yeah
[12:54] <bentkus> its like someone has written a bot which connects with different nicks and writes "is it out yet"
[12:54] <Sh3r1ff> :)
[12:54] <moetunes> wolfwalker-prime: why would you say that - don't be negative mate
[12:55] <complience> with the risk of you've already been asked this a million times already today.
[12:55] <wolfwalker-prime> moetunes, but it's fun!  Everyone likes to watch a train wreck.
[12:55] <complience> when is karmic out?
[12:55] <iceroot> complience: six month ago
[12:55] <complience> and lucid in
[12:55] <iceroot> complience: go to #ubuntu+1
[12:55] <moetunes> wolfwalker-prime: best if you go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:55] <wolfwalker-prime> True.
[12:56] <Diverdude> Is it possible to zip some files into a zip file on ubuntu? And how is this done?
[12:56] <wolfwalker-prime> Or ubuntu+1.  I was wondering if 3G support was still in place in latest ubuntu.
[12:56] <usr13> complience: Oct 29, 2009
[12:56] <calmsiva> is Lucid is officially released yet
[12:56] <SuperRoach> diverdude, have a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921219
[12:56] <^ookami^> Diverdude: right-click on it? ;)
[12:56] <Slart> Diverdude: yes.. there are several versions of zip I think.. try gzip
[12:57] <wolfwalker-prime> In Ubuntu Karmic my AT&T Mercury has been a bit unreliable.  In Ubuntu 9.04 it worked flawlessly.
[12:57] <beli> !find zip
[12:57] <usr13> Diverdude: zip filename.zip file1 file2 etc
[12:57] <calmsiva> what time LUCID is getting released - i am in india
[12:58] <kobi> shit me too
[12:58] <tmukmkd> i have install decibel audio player in ubuntu 9.10, when i click at the icon it wont appear.. can anybody help me (or tell me why?)
[12:58] <thelostpatrol> sometime within 24 hours
[12:58] <Darkii> pederii
[12:58] <Slart> calmsiva: join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:58] <Black_Phantom> yo somebody unban me from #ubuntu-release-party common !
[12:58] <wolfwalker-prime> !Lucid > calmsiva
[12:58] <Black_Phantom> i swear Linus said that
[12:58] <Darkii> kako sme
[12:58] <Slart> Black_Phantom: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[12:58] <Darkii> i dont understant
[12:58] <calmsiva> slart ; how
[12:58] <Slart> calmsiva: type    /join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:58] <kobi> smooking weed
[12:59] <Slart> !ot | kobi
[12:59] <Darkii> give me OP
[12:59] <ikey> ._.
[12:59] <Slart> tmukmkd: have you tried starting it from a terminal? see if you get any errors back
[12:59] <Darkii> "D
[12:59] <shikhark> when is ubuntu 10.04 going to be out?
[12:59] <kobi> toomorow
[12:59] <Slart> shikhark: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:00] <shikhark> thanks Slart
[13:00] <Slart> shikhark: you're welcome
[13:00] <calmsiva> slart : thanks
[13:00] <tmukmkd> slart what the 'special word' for summoned it from terminal? i try decibel but its not right
[13:00] <usr13> Diverdude: To make a tar archive of a directory full of files, (such as your Documents):  tar czf Documents.zip ~/Documents/
[13:00] <Slart> tmukmkd: hmm.. I'm not sure.. hang on.. let me check
[13:01] <usr13> Diverdude: To make a tar archive of a directory full of files, (such as your Documents):  tar czf Documents.tgz ~/Documents/
[13:01] <tmukmkd> slart, ok :)
[13:01] <_picAssO_> is there a way to ban ips after the ip tried to access ssh2 several times and failed at each try?
[13:01] <usr13> Diverdude: .zip would be a missleading extension, (was a typo)
[13:01] <_bt> _picAssO_: fail2ban ?
[13:02] <_picAssO_> _bt: let me see what it does; thx
[13:02] <Pici> _picAssO_: The default fail2ban setup does that, so you just need to install it and it should be good :)
[13:02] <kobi> whats uppp
[13:03] <calmsiva> is there any permission we have to get from canonical - if we are to print I LOVE UBUNTU stickers - and give it free (in chennai / india)
[13:03] <Slart> tmukmkd: it's called     decibel-audio-player
[13:03] <beli> _picAssO_: fail2ban is what you are searching for...another nice idea is to just allow ssh connections after port-knocking....search for knockd....and think of moving away from port 22
[13:03] <Kartagis> do you guys think I should install 9.10 then upgrade, or do a fresh install with 10.04?
[13:03] <Slart> Kartagis: fresh install
[13:03] <tmukmkd> slart, thanks i try it rite now :D
[13:03] <Kartagis> thanks Slart
[13:03] <calmsiva> is there any permission we have to get from canonical - if we are to print I LOVE UBUNTU stickers - and give it free (in chennai / india)
[13:04] <Slart> !repeat | calmsiva
[13:04] <calmsiva> sorry
[13:04] <tmukmkd> slart the message quite long (5-6 lines) may i paste it at here or there are something specific way?
[13:04] <rww> !paste
[13:04] <usr13> Kartagis: It is up to you.   Some like the 2 year cycle, (LTS - 8.04, 10.04, etc) and others like cutting edge 6 month cycle.
[13:04] <Slart> eon_: have you tried using the "stty" command.. it looks like it can do all kinds of neat things in a terminal..
[13:05] <Slart> tmukmkd: go with the pastebin.. give us the url when you're done
[13:05] <Pici> calmsiva: Best to read/contact http://ubuntu.com/legal/ if you are unsure.
[13:05] <usr13> Kartagis: (I'm an LTS person...)
[13:06] <eon_> Slart: to be honest i knew about stty, but i didn't knew i could hide the cursor...can i?
[13:06] <Kartagis> usr13, and that means what?
[13:06] <calmsiva> pici : thanks
[13:06] <lenon> calmsiva: Ubuntu trademark is published on creative commons license, as far as i know, so no permission required. check it up, though.
[13:06] <tmukmkd> slart, http://paste.ubuntu.com/424576/
[13:06] <Slart> eon_: I don't really know.. I just read about it here http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/advanced_bash_scripting_guide/system.html
[13:06] <usr13> !LTS | Kartagis
[13:06] <calmsiva> lenon : thanks
[13:06] <Slart> eon_: setterm also looks promising.. at least it has a "cursor off" option
[13:06] <Kartagis> usr13, you do a fresh install every other year?
[13:07] <wolfwalker-prime> Kartagis, I do a fresh install every six months.
[13:07] <usr13> Kartagis: You can, but just the upgrade works fine.
[13:07] <eon_> Slart: thnx for the research of my behalf, i used stty a lot to hide password inputs, will check it out right away, thanks a lot
[13:07] <Slart> tmukmkd: hmm.. no idea why it does that.. looks like a bug to me..
[13:07] <maximo> when will the LTS version be launched?
[13:07] <Slart> eon_: you're welcome
[13:07] <Kartagis> wolfwalker-prime, and why is that?
[13:07] <Slart> maximo: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:07] <Kartagis> maximo, some time today
[13:08] <friendforall> how work ratproxy?
[13:08] <tmukmkd> slart, owh a bug. ok thanks anyway for the respond :D
[13:08] <maximo> beautiful
[13:08] <Slart> tmukmkd: you're welcome
[13:08] <wolfwalker-prime> Kartagis, because fresh install I have found is always more stable than upgrade.  And it works for me, for what I use my computer for.
[13:08] <uikxx> a
[13:08] <usr13> Kartagis: I'll do the upgrade, sometime in the next few months, just when ever I feel like it... I won't be the first nor the last :)
[13:08] <eon_> Slart: Awesome, setterm does the deal
[13:08] <usr13> Kartagis: But that's just me....
[13:08] <maximo> question: I have ubuntu but not LTS ...does that mean I need to upgrade ?
[13:09] <LjL> maximo: well, even if it's not LTS, it'll still be supported for a while
[13:09] <wolfwalker-prime> maximo, depends on the answer to another question:  Is your computer doing what you want it to do?  If so, keep it.
[13:09] <eon_> Slart: pretty  cool and easy actualy, it also is great for the ones that get annoyed by the blinking cursor, since you can only "not-see" the cursor
[13:09] <tiina> hej någon som kunde hjälpa mig med med min firefox?
[13:09] <Gup> hi all! i'm seeing 100% iowait on one core, and cant figure out whats causing it, rebooting seems the only solution, then it comes back after a few days. Are there any tools to find out whast causing this? top iotop and vmstat dont seem to give much indication... thanks.
[13:09] <usr13> Kartagis: I'll backup important files first  and then do the upgrade
[13:09] <LjL> !se | tiina
[13:09] <Slart> eon_: yea.. I just tried it.. although I kind of like seeing my cursor.. but it might come in handy for scripts
[13:10] <peter_curry> Hello.  Does anyone have any clue about why Ubuntu 9.10 will just randomly log out without me prompting on my IBM Thinkpad?  It is REALLY annoying.  It seems like a bug or something ...
[13:10] <eon_> Slart: in this case, its pretty nice
[13:10] <Slart> tiina: det finns en svensk kanal.. här pratar alla engelska.. skriv /join #ubuntu-se för att komma till den svenska kanalen
[13:10] <Telenn> simple question.. can anyone link me to a site to get a downloadable version of the ubuntu documention walkthrous.......
[13:10] <MihalisGR> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[13:10] <tiina> hej ingen som vet varför jag måste starta min om firefox använing?
[13:10] <usr13> Kartagis: I'll  make tar archive of my home dir and away I'll go.... into the wild blue yonder ....
[13:11] <Maximo> LjL: when I first started with Ubuntu I started with LTS ...what I need to know if I could upgrade from Non-LTS ?
[13:11] <Slart> peter_curry: are you sure it's just logging you out? when the X server crashes it restarts and you end up at the login prompt so it looks like it logs you out
[13:11] <stodorovic> Gup: had that with Slackware and Kubuntu systems. What disk hardware are you using? always in x?
[13:11] <usr13> Kartagis: onto my thumb drive.
[13:11] <Karwan> Are we ready to roll?
[13:11] <Slart> peter_curry: check the /var/log/syslog file
[13:11] <LjL> Maximo: upgrading from non-LTS is the same as upgrading from LTS. the only difference is that, if you're on an LTS, you can upgrade directly to the next LTS without going through the intermediate versions
[13:11] <LjL> !upgrade > Maximo    (Maximo, see the private message from ubottu)
[13:11] <tiina_> anyone who could help me with firefox 3.6?
[13:11] <Slart> tiina: du kommer att bli kickad om du fortsätter fråga på svenska här..   skriv   /join #ubuntu-se   för att komma till den svenska kanalen
[13:12] <stodorovic> tiina_: who knows...
[13:12] <peter_curry> Slart: OK.  That is exactly what is happening.  What do I check with the /var/log/syslog file?
[13:12] <usr13> tiina_: What is your problem with firefox?
[13:12] <Maximo> LjL: thanks alot
[13:13] <stodorovic> !smartquestions
[13:13] <Slart> peter_curry: open the file in gedit or something.. start from the end and work your way up.. look for stuff like "segfault" "crash" "fatal"
[13:13] <tiina_> when I start it and close it then it always says that Firefox is already open and you have to close that first???
[13:13] <killaz_> hi is it today that ubuntu 10.04 is suposed to release the final version ?
[13:13] <stodorovic> tiina_: remove the lock in your firefox directory
[13:14] <tiina_> where is that?
[13:14] <usr13> tiina_: Is your system up-to-date?
[13:14] <Slart> killaz_: yes, the party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:14] <stodorovic> killaz_: did you check the website?
[13:14] <tiina_> yes
[13:14] <Kartagis> tiina, kill the firefox process
[13:14] <tiina_> how do I do it
[13:14] <domi_nick> tiina, this usually means that firefox is hanging in background. try killall on firefox "killall firefox"
[13:14] <stodorovic> tiina_: in your directory, in the hidden mozilla dir in the firefox.profile dir probably
[13:14] <killaz_> yes but i dont have the upgrade option in the update manager
[13:14] <Gup> stodorovic, yep, always in x, but then never use the machine without x.  got a sata solid state boot disk and a s/w raid 0 of 2 x 2tb sata disks.  ubnutu, not kubuntu.  controller: 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 01)
[13:14] <prem> hi
[13:14] <wolfwalker-prime> I have a question about 3G wireless modems.  I have a USB modem from AT&T, their "Mercury" model.  When I run from a live cd it works flawlessly but when I run from Ubuntu installed on the hard drive it takes sometimes four, five, six tries to get it to work.  I've tried on multiple installs (yes, it takes a bit of time to reinstall the whole OS) and installed Ubuntu keeps bugging it up.
[13:14] <usr13> tiina_: I dono then.  Alt-F2 pkill firefox
[13:15] <peter_curry> Slart: K.  So I found a line with "segfault" in it ...
[13:15] <prem> does anyone here , have a good knowledge abt python builtin functions
[13:15] <tiina_> then do I need to download that again?
[13:15] <killaz_> and it did offer me a version about 1 time this morning i did not upgraded because in the release note it was written that it was not a final release it was still a beta
[13:15] <Doggod> will 10.04 have the latest boost version in repo?
[13:15] <corden> hello guys
[13:15] <corden> another LTS release
[13:15] <TnEt> this was probably mentioned already so I apologize...but where is the final release of Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:15] <fromspace> i have an HP mobo (P-III,133MHz FSB).. will it work if I stick in it some PC100 RAM?
[13:15] <stodorovic> Gup: hmm weird. I've seen it on nvidia / ati sata controllers, nvidia. There was a kernel bug report filed that might be trelevant but not sure
[13:15] <ray_> list
[13:15] <corden> how many hours left?
[13:15] <killaz_> is it normal ?
[13:15] <wolfwalker-prime> !Lucid
[13:16] <usr13> tiina_: No, that will just kill firefox.   pkill firefox     will kill running application "firefox"
[13:16] <rockenrola> I'm trying to install a driver. The INSTALL script uses rpm, which i had installed, but it complains about glibc and asks to manually populate the rpm database. any help?
[13:16] <domi_nick> TnEt: still pending...
[13:16] <alex88_> if i have multiple ip on eth0, how can i say to a program to use eth0:0 instead of eth0?
[13:16] <usr13> tiina_: For more info about firefox, /join #firefox
[13:16] <tiina_> I did it but nothing happend
[13:16] <TnEt> ok
[13:16] <stodorovic> tiina_: delete the lock file
[13:16] <Doggod> will 10.04 have the latest boost version in repo?
[13:16] <prem> does anyone here , have a good knowledge abt python builtin functions
[13:16] <tiina_> shall I write at first sudo apt pkil firefox?
[13:16] <mrp> how can i extract 10 zips to one folder?
[13:16] <stodorovic> prem: #python???
[13:16] <peter_curry> Slart: So what does that mean?  This is exactly what it reads: Apr 28 21:38:34 PJC kernel: [ 2653.911745] operapluginwrap[2369]: segfault at b677cd6c ip 03218f13 sp ae79f340 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[2d9c000+994000]
[13:17] <calmsiva> prem: generally in this forum - JUST ASK your question - do not ask whether anyone knows anything or not
[13:17] <Telenn> need a downloadable of the user manual for ubuntu9.10. first time user, soon to have no internet connection, any helpers for a spot to aquire....
[13:17] <hal9000_> Hello, did I hear correctly that the new ubuntu will not fit on a normal cd-r dick?
[13:17] <stodorovic> calmsiva: he's now PMed me:/
[13:17] <mrp> Telenn: ubuntu-manual.org
[13:17] <zeroseven0183> Will there be a countdown here in the channel before 10.04 is released?
[13:18] <iceroot> hal9000_: no
[13:18] <calmsiva> stodorovic : i dont understand what do you mean
[13:18] <wolfwalker-prime> hal9000_, rumors abound.  Don't pay them any heed.
[13:18] <psycho_oreos> !party > zeroseven0183
[13:18] <iceroot> zeroseven0183: no
[13:18] <MmikePOSO> Will it allready? :)
[13:18] <hal9000_> ok, thanks
[13:18] <Slart> peter_curry: that's just your flash plugin crashing.. it shouldn't bring your entire X server down
[13:18] <Gup> stodorovic, ha its finally stopped without reboot :) still want to find out what it is, really looking for something like iowaittop if such a thing exists?
[13:18] <Slart> peter_curry: that was the only line you found?
[13:18] <creama> hi ya
[13:18] <creama> can any1 assist me?
[13:18] <stodorovic> calmsiva: prem PMed me... :/
[13:18] <peter_curry> Slart: Yes.  So what is the solution to fix the problem?
[13:18] <wolfwalker-prime> !ask | creama
[13:19] <zeroseven0183> Ooopppsss wrong channel. Sorry
[13:19] <dudeface> !topic
[13:19] <Slart> peter_curry: hmm.. I don't think that's the problem we're looking for.. you can do the same thing for the file /var/log/kern.log   see if you find anything else in there
[13:19] <creama> wolfwalker-prime:  hi i am experiencing this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2046080
[13:19] <Slart> peter_curry: I guess it's also possible that nothing was reported in the logs
[13:19] <creama> !party
[13:19] <Telenn> downing now, thank you mrp
[13:19] <pirx> has anyone used gparted to resize/move a ntfs partition? and if so, how did it go?
[13:19] <stodorovic> prem: #python
[13:19] <Nece228> wheres ubunut 10.04? it should be released yesterday right?
[13:19] <Slart> pirx: yes, fine
[13:20] <Slart> !party | Nece228
[13:20] <calmsiva> # python
[13:20] <prem> in python built in functions .........................., what is the purpose of the function "all"
[13:20] <stodorovic> prem: /join #python
[13:20] <usr13> mrp: Place them in that directory and then cd to that directory and unzip file1.zip file2.zip etc.
[13:20] <Slart> prem: ask in ##python or #python
[13:20] <prem> can anyone illustrate with an example
[13:20] <creama> wolfwalker-prime: i can't seem to fix it how?
[13:20] <prem> ok
[13:20] <rosco_y> Is 10.04 out yet?
[13:20] <Slart> rosco_y: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:20] <bazhang> rosco_y, no
[13:21] <peter_curry> Slart: OK.  In kern.log, I found the following (and Opera did crash last night): Apr 26 22:14:16 PJC kernel: [ 8013.335956] operapluginwrap[2123]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfc0b8dc error 4 in libX11.so.6.2.0[110000+12a000]
[13:21] <rosco_y> Slart: Thanks!
[13:21]  * stodorovic would like to take a poll of people's blood-pressure values in here... this channel is pretty stressful :|
[13:21] <Slart> peter_curry: did the X server crash at the same time?
[13:21] <hal9000_> lol
[13:21] <Nece228> Slart: im talking about ubunut not ubuntu
[13:21] <usr13> Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
[13:21] <wolfwalker-prime> creama I don't know.  Tried using Super Grub boot disk?  Most of the other people here know more than I do, sorry.
[13:21] <pirx> Slart: resize or move?
[13:22] <Slart> Nece228: ubunut? some home-brew variant?
[13:22] <wolfwalker-prime> stodorovic, of course.  We are waiting for something we are looking forward to, but we don't know how long the wait will be.
[13:22] <Slart> pirx: I've resized, removed, created ntfs.. don't think I've done any moving
[13:22] <e-DIO-t> yo!
[13:22] <EdgEy__> it won't be anywhere near 6gb unless you have a shitload of apps installed
[13:22] <Nece228> Slart: well i dont know
[13:23] <EdgEy__> I would be surprised if it's more than 1-1.5GB
[13:23] <peter_curry> Slart: Umm ... I don't know.  What does that look like?  I am still fairly new to Ubuntu.  If it is they symptom you originally described with the X server crashing, then that has happened - but not necessarily simultaneously ...
[13:23] <stodorovic> wolfwalker-prime: no no. I mean all the barrage of newbie questions and people not listening to advice/help :)
[13:23] <wolfwalker-prime> Oh that
[13:24] <oktay> where my lucid at?
[13:24] <Slart> peter_curry: yes.. that's what a X server crash would look like.. screen blink once or twice and then the login prompt appears again
[13:24] <usr13> oktay: See ubuntu.com
[13:24] <oktay> i don't like what i see there
[13:24] <Crewsr31> what is  the chatroom where people are waiting for Lucid?
[13:24] <Pici> Crewsr31: #ubuntu-release-party
[13:24] <peter_curry> Slart: Yeah.  That has happened ...
[13:24] <iceroot> !party | Crewsr31
[13:24] <zeroseven0183> Crewsr31: #ubuntu-release-party
[13:25] <Dkl-2> hi all!
[13:25] <KOPRajs> hi, I've upgraded from Kubuntu Karmic to Lucid and now my FAT32 disk is being mounted with bad charset... It was working fine on Karmic... any ideas?
[13:25] <Crewsr31> zeroseven0183: thansk
[13:25] <iceroot> KOPRajs: #ubuntu+1
[13:25] <oktay> thansk for the link.
[13:25] <Slart> peter_curry: as I said, it's entirely possible that nothing was written to the logs although there usually is some trace of it
[13:25] <Slart> peter_curry: I'm not sure if X has a logfile of its own... hang on.. let me search around a second
[13:25] <Dkl-2> when the iso should be released?
[13:26] <stodorovic> Slart: peter_curry yes xorg has a logfile of its own. /var/log/Xorg*
[13:26] <usr13> Slart: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:26] <KOPRajs> iceroot: same problem?
[13:27] <iceroot> KOPRajs: no but wrong channel
[13:27] <usr13> Slart: Correction:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:27] <Slart> usr13: isn't that just for the starting up part of Xorg? would a X server crashing end up in that file?
[13:27] <usr13> Slart: Yes it is.
[13:28] <usr13> Slart: But what are you looking for?
[13:28] <KOPRajs> iceroot: do you think disk automounting is Kubuntu specific?
[13:28] <jevangelo> 10.04 is going to release any minute today?
[13:29] <Slart> usr13: some error message from an X server crashing ( peter_curry is the one with the naughty X server)
[13:29] <Dkl-2> jevangelo: same question no answer :)
[13:29] <jevangelo> heh
[13:29] <iceroot> KOPRajs: no but 10.04 which is not stable yet
[13:29] <Slart> usr13: but there's nothing in syslog or kern.log about it
[13:29] <elnur> Is 10.04 coming out today?
[13:30] <Slart> elnur: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:30] <ywgx> 大家好？
[13:30] <psycho_oreos> !cn | ywgx
[13:30] <stodorovic> Slart: sometimes an application crashes just before a printf() or just immediately after it. Since printf() is buffered I/O, the application might not have a chance to have it's buffers flushed before the kernel terminates it
[13:30] <peter_curry> Slart: OK - when searching in Xorg.0.log with the search terms "segfault", "crash", and "fatal", I get no results.  However, there are couple items when I search with the word "fail" ...
[13:30] <shashwatpns> hi everyone
[13:30] <shashwatpns> whats the timing for 10.04
[13:30] <stodorovic> Slart: hence sometimes no messages are produced
[13:30] <shashwatpns> ?
[13:30] <psycho_oreos> !party > shashwatpns
[13:30] <ywgx> 酒店客房很苦的事发dsaf
[13:30] <loxs> ubottu, I want too 10.04
[13:31] <Pici> !party
[13:31] <Slart> stodorovic: hrmpf.. that's true.. I was kind of hoping the syslog and kern.log did things a little differently.. thanks anyway
[13:31] <elnur> Slart, thank you
[13:31] <loxs> 10.04
[13:31] <stodorovic> Slart: well I think xorg doesnt use syslog - rather i think it dumps to the /var/log/Xorg.$sceennumber.log files.
[13:32] <Slart> peter_curry: mm... there are few things that "fails" even for a normal boot..  I'm beginning to think that the X server doesn't get to write anything to the logs before it dies..
[13:32] <Slart> peter_curry: or at least in this case it hasn't
[13:33] <peter_curry> Slart: OK - good to know about the log files.  So what is the solution, though?
[13:33] <mrfoxsy> when relise
[13:34] <psycho_oreos> !party > mrfoxsy
[13:34] <TragicallyHip> what time is the release?
[13:34] <peter_curry> Slart: It obviously has something to do with either an Opera plug-in or the flash player ...
[13:34] <psycho_oreos> !party > TragicallyHip
[13:34] <TragicallyHip> !party
[13:34] <Pici> TragicallyHip, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:34] <Slart> peter_curry: wait for it to happen again =/  see if you can provoke it.. some kind of information such as "it crashes when I run this program" might help finding out what is wrong.. that's about all I can recommend at the moment though.. it could be lots of things
[13:34] <schweegi> does anybody know when lucid lynx 10.04 today released?
[13:35] <psycho_oreos> !party > schweegi
[13:35] <Slart> !party | schestowitz
[13:35] <Artemios> I've installed ati video driver using EnvyNG program, and after rebooting i can't start X. What have i to do?
[13:35] <peter_curry> Slart: K - I could try reinstalling X server, you know ...
[13:35] <Slart> Artemios: check the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log find lines starting with EE or WW ..
[13:35] <peter_curry> Slart: That MIGHT do the trick ...
[13:35] <ywgx> when ubuntu10.04 will be released?
[13:36] <psycho_oreos> !party > ywgx
[13:36] <sahak> when ubuntu 10.04 will be released?
[13:36] <Slart> peter_curry: sure.. reinstalling the X server.. reinstalling graphics drivers if you're using 3rd party ones..
[13:36] <psycho_oreos> !party > sahak
[13:36] <Artemios> Slart: and?
[13:36] <ywgx> where are you from?
[13:37] <schweegi> sycho_oreos:  sorry, but nobody try to answer me..
[13:37] <schweegi> there
[13:37] <psycho_oreos> !offtopic | ywgx
[13:37] <Slart> Artemios: usually those lines tell you why X isn't starting.. something like "no valid graphics modes" or such.
[13:37] <Nece228> ubunut vs kubunut which is easier?
[13:37] <psycho_oreos> schweegi, that doesn't give you the right to ask in here, this is official support channel for non-10.04 (for the time being)
[13:37] <psycho_oreos> Nece228, ask in #ubuntu-bots
[13:38] <CircuitBug> is 10.04 final out?
[13:38] <Slart> Nece228: we don't support Ubunut here.. only Ubuntu
[13:38] <Slart> !party | CircuitBug
[13:38] <Nece228> Slart: then how about ubuntu and kubuntu?
[13:38] <Slart> Nece228: then you do what psycho_oreos told you
[13:39] <peter_curry> Slart: K - I'm going to try reconfiguring X-Server to see if that does the trick ...
[13:39] <schweegi> psycho_oreos:  thats not a joke from me.
[13:39] <xukun> #join #ubuntu+1
[13:39] <psycho_oreos> schweegi, neither is what I'm saying, read the /topic
[13:40] <oktay> i got kicked out of release party for saying shit :)
[13:40] <stodorovic> Ubunut????
[13:41] <stevecam> okidokia, just go back in there, its a silly bot
[13:41] <oktay> please don't do that it's annoyinh
[13:41] <Slart> oktay: #ubuntu-ops
[13:41] <tsimpson> oktay: the language rules apply here too
[13:41] <stevecam> oktay, i mean sorry OkropNick
[13:41] <okidokia> stevecam> what ?
[13:41] <bibstha> rakesh_, hey
[13:41] <rakesh_> yes
[13:41] <rakesh_> thanks bibek
[13:41] <stas> how much to the launch?
[13:41] <Pici> stas, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:42] <Slart> !outyet | stas
[13:42] <bibstha> rakesh_, no problem :)
[13:42] <stas> ty
[13:42] <bibstha> rakesh_, just wait here and don't ask
[13:42] <oktay> Pici: there's an official time in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:42] <okidokia> stevecam> sorry i was afk, i don't understand what you said about a "stupid bot" ?
[13:42] <Pici> oktay: No, there is not.
[13:42] <iceroot> oktay: please keep offtopic-chat from this channel
[13:43] <rakesh_> ok
[13:43] <stevecam> sry wrong person
[13:43] <oktay> iceroot: and the topic would be? :)
[13:43] <oktay> nobody is talking about anythign but lucid ):
[13:43] <okidokia> stevecam> ok no soucy
[13:43] <ubuntu-user-b2> guys please join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:43] <iceroot> oktay: ubuntu-support
[13:43] <bazhang> !ot> oktay
[13:44] <killaz_> hey is it normal that people said here that ubuntu 10.04 was delay and why do i have a upgrade note with what appear to be the final release ?
[13:44] <schweegi> oktay:  i've just talked about my soundproblems ysesterday but nobody could help me..
[13:44] <iceroot> killaz_: it is the final release
[13:44] <oktay> bummer.
[13:44] <oktay> anybody have sound stopping on youtube ?
[13:44] <oktay> as long as we're on topic
[13:44] <killaz_> it doesnt say beta
[13:44] <pure_hate> oktay, How is that on topic? Sounds like a yuo tube issue
[13:45] <oktay> ubottu: thank yoiu for your private message. much appreciated.
[13:45] <killaz_> and it does not say that we should not install it on a production machine
[13:45] <oktay> pure_hate: ubuntu chrome youtube, sound stops
[13:45] <Slart> oktay: sound "stopping"? meaning you hear sound at the beginning?
[13:45] <Sn0rl4y> siema jak wejsc na pl ubu ?
[13:45] <Slart> !pl | Sn0rl4y
[13:45] <oktay> ubottu: i still like you brother
[13:45] <killaz_> so iceroot u confirm it is release ?
[13:45] <killaz_> final *
[13:45] <Sn0rl4y> co ?
[13:46] <Pici> killaz_: Its NOT out yet.
[13:46] <ubuntu-user-b2> IT IS NOT RELEASED YET
[13:46] <iceroot> killaz_: yes, repos have the final-version, isos are on there way
[13:46] <oktay> Slart: well. you watch one video it's fine. then after a while you want to watch another video. and sounds doesn't work anymore. it's silent. I have to kill the flush plugin for it to work again.
[13:46] <killaz_> so why my update manager offer me the upgrade ?
[13:46] <iceroot> killaz_: i told you why
[13:46] <pure_hate> killaz_, He just told you its in the repos
[13:47]  * bagpuss_thecat looks around for Mr Thom
[13:47] <killaz_> i was talking to pici
[13:47] <killaz_> in the repos what is the repos ?
[13:47] <killaz_> in the ubuntu database ?
[13:47] <oktay> repositories
[13:47] <Slart> oktay: hmm.. well, flash can do weird things to a otherwise healthy computer.. I'm just happy it works sometimes on my system
[13:47] <schitso> did someone say release party?
[13:47] <DingGGu> hey guys, how to upgrade 9.04 to 10.04?
[13:48] <iceroot> !upgrade | DingGGu
[13:48] <oktay> Slart: yes. i am happy i found out how to kill just the plugin too. i was killing the whole browser.
[13:48] <rosco_y> schitso: #ubuntu-release-party, but it doesn't seem like anyone knows what's going on
[13:48] <schitso> i see
[13:48] <wN0AmQI2> is this the justin bieber room?
[13:48] <tsr2> Hallo evrybody. Is this the right place to ask about problems installing 10.04RC  on an old Dell?
[13:48] <oktay> on #ubuntu-release-party the bot is giving out a time in UTC. and also saying the release was delayed an hour
[13:48] <dudeface> justin <3
[13:49] <Abyss_>  why does my system think i have proxy when i dont have one set anymore, its screwing up updates and apt gets
[13:49] <iceroot> oktay: that is a fun and i told you already to stop being offtopic here
[13:49] <bazhang> oktay, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:49] <oktay> Abyss_: did you install privoxy?
[13:49] <vega> tsr2: no
[13:49] <DingGGu> !kernelupdate
[13:49] <Abyss_> no oktay
[13:49] <DingGGu> so, how to upgrade kernel?
[13:49] <oktay> Abyss_: it happened when i did that. i would check the general proxy settings.
[13:49] <vega> tsr2: #ubuntu+1
[13:49] <schitso> ubuntu.com loads fine for me
[13:49] <oktay> and remove any proxy software you might have.
[13:50] <iceroot> DingGGu: which kernel you want?
[13:50] <tsr2> thanks vega
[13:50] <dudeface> is there a way to make ubuntu super cutting edge
[13:50] <Abyss_> i set a system proxy once on this machine, but have since removed it as i changed the network is was on, i have ensured its been  set system wide, still same issue
[13:50] <DingGGu> lastest
[13:50] <DingGGu> version
[13:50] <DingGGu> oops, sorry
[13:50] <tiina> anyone here help me with my firefox....
[13:50] <usr13> dudeface: Sure
[13:50] <schitso> hm
[13:50] <tiina> tried to kill it but doesnt help
[13:50] <david__> Have the servers gone into labor ?
[13:50] <iceroot> DingGGu: the latest from kernel.org? or the latest build for ubuntu?
[13:50] <oktay> Abyss_: it happened to me too. i didn't know why apt kept wanting to go through a proxy.
[13:50] <usr13> tiina: pkill firefox
[13:50] <Abyss_> system > preferences > system proxy - its set to direct internet connection - and is applied system wide
[13:50] <iceroot> DingGGu: and why you need the newest kernel?
[13:50] <tiina> didn help
[13:50] <DingGGu> ....
[13:50] <rosco_y> Is there a package for 64 bit flashplayer?
[13:50] <subone> Can I use the Ubuntu Live CD to boot from an Ubuntu Live USB? I can't boot from USB, was wondering if I can boot from the CD and then redirect to the USB install because the CD drive has errors
[13:50] <DingGGu> i don't know
[13:51] <DingGGu> my feels say..
[13:51] <iceroot> DingGGu: then remeber this sentence "never touch a running system"
[13:51] <ubu_user> rosco_y, not an ubuntu package no - you can manually install from adobe site though
[13:51] <DingGGu> ok thanks :)
[13:51] <dudeface> you can get 64bit flash from the adobe website
[13:51] <tiina> how do come to swedeish sites of ubunt here
[13:51] <rosco_y> ubu_user: thanks :)
[13:51] <oktay> Abyss_: i seem to have 'manual proxy config' with no hosts set. i might have done that to fix that issue.
[13:51] <ubuntu-user-b2> use this repo for 64 bit flash: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu karmic main #Adobe Flash PPA (x86-64)
[13:51] <Abyss_> oktay i will try that now,
[13:52] <NerdsMcgee_> Adobe has x64 flash? :O
[13:52] <ubuntu-user-b2> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list.d/flash.list
[13:52] <ubuntu-user-b2> yes
[13:52] <ubuntu-user-b2> it has
[13:52] <Slart> NerdsMcgee_: it's a beta.. or alpha.. can't remember
[13:52] <ubuntu-user-b2> but is alpha
[13:52] <dudeface> yes, once firefox 64 came out on linux, it needs 64 bit flash
[13:52] <ubuntu-user-b2> i have it for 3 moths now
[13:52] <usr13> tiina: Did you try removing lock files?
[13:52] <ubuntu-user-b2> and it's wotking great
[13:52] <unclemantis> how do i set my sign in timeout from what it is now to like infinite or some max value
[13:52] <dudeface> they havnt made it for windows yet, since windows can run 32bit firefox
[13:53] <masu3701__> is 10.4 available now?
[13:53] <Slart> !outyet | masu3701__
[13:53] <IanBaliadJr> has anyone intel GMA HD iGPU?(core i3 i5 i7)
[13:53] <water> thanks ubottu
[13:53] <NET||abuse> hm,m why on the ubuntu site, there is no "more information" type link about 10.04????? been expecting some kind of push to promote a new LTS ont he site..
[13:53] <Slart> IanBaliadJr: yes.. on my laptop
[13:53] <tiina> how do I get swedish ubuntu chat???
[13:53] <Slart> tiina: type    /join #ubuntu-se
[13:53] <bazhang> tiina, /join #ubuntu-se
[13:53] <NET||abuse> well, when you click to download you get info,, just don't like the way ti's presented.
[13:54] <usr13> tiina: rm .mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default/lock
[13:54] <IanBaliadJr> Slart: the 3d performance is good?
[13:54] <pirx> IanBaliadJr: i have something called 4500hd (core i5 cpu)
[13:54] <kennyG> Is there anything newer than Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx ?
[13:55] <Slart> IanBaliadJr: I haven't really done anything heavy on it.. it runs compiz just fine with lots of screens and whatnot
[13:55] <pirx> kennyG: nope. lucid was released today
[13:55] <Abyss_> dammit apt-get still looking for a proxy!
[13:55] <Slash[GnR]> at what time they are going to release ubuntu 10.04?
[13:55] <FFF666> when the ubuntu 10.04 will be available?
[13:55] <IanBaliadJr> pirx: 5700HD what I'm looking for
[13:55] <WorkLux> there any active download links for, uhm, lynx yet?
[13:55] <Slart> !outyet
[13:55] <kennyG> pirx, do you mean the GM?
[13:56] <coolman> any news on what time for Lucid ????
[13:56] <usr13> tiina: and  rm .mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default/.parentlock
[13:56] <unclemantis> ok i found it. http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/02/03/keeping-ssh-sessions-alive/ Thanks folk
[13:56] <stodorovic> tiina: see? just like I said :)
[13:56] <IanBaliadJr> Slart: thank you!
[13:56] <Slart> IanBaliadJr: you're welcome
[13:56] <Artemios> I've installed ati video driver using EnvyNG and now i can't start X. What have i to do?
[13:57] <will`> if 10.04 is not out soon i will kill myselfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[13:57] <kennyG> I am already using Lucid as Beta release, I wonder if I can update to the GM release or better reinstall it...
[13:57] <n1tr0s> все привет русско говрящие есть?
[13:57] <Slart> will`: before you do that.. change channel to #ubuntu-release-party
[13:57] <Slart> !ru | n1tr0s
[13:57] <Artemios> да
[13:57] <naples> i thought 10.04 was being released today... ?
[13:57] <Azelphur> !ubuntu+1
[13:57] <Azelphur> please kiddies, #ubuntu+1 is that way -->
[13:57] <usr13> tiina: pkill firefox ; rm .mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default/lock ; rm .mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default/.parentlock
[13:57] <jbwiv> I've been tracking a full system freeze on my system for a few weeks now. Now it seems to only happen when I return to work the next morning. Anytime I come in, the system is locked up...magic sysrq buttons won't work either. Is there something that happens when the screen is locked for a long period of time that might explain this? Power management or something?
[13:57] <will`> Slart hehe thanks
[13:58] <Slart> jbwiv: sounds like a suspend or hibernation problem
[13:58] <jbwiv> Slart: I have it set to never put the system to sleep though
[13:58] <Artemios> ubottu: там невозможно писать в канал
[13:58] <usr13> jbwiv: Hard to tell, but can you ssh into it durning those times?
[13:58] <Slart> jbwiv: not really surprising.. it seems these days it's more surprising when a laptop actually supports suspend/hibernate without something getting messed up
[13:58] <kennyG> oktay, thank you!
[13:58] <Artemios> I've installed ati video driver using EnvyNG and now i can't start X. What have i to do?
[13:59] <sobczyk> hello, how well the kde4 is integrated in ubuntu 10.04? (ie. native network manager applet, driver manager, etc)
[13:59] <Slart> sobczyk: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:59] <usr13> sobczyk: We don't know yet.
[13:59] <jecko> Can we use Shakespeer as a GUI enabled DC client on Ubuntu ?
[13:59] <Slart> jbwiv: hmm.. then I don't really know.. it might still be some powersaving thing though
[13:59] <geekphreak> hello all
[13:59] <iceroot> sobczyk: find out with a live-cd
[14:00] <jecko> Can we use Shakespeer as a GUI enabled DC client on Ubuntu ?
[14:00] <FFF666> I'm from argentina, when I can download the ubuntu 10.04?
[14:00] <Slart> jecko: I have no idea.. never heard of it.. have you tried it?
[14:01] <Slart> !outyet | FFF666
[14:01] <developer> how to use alternate glib while building a program
[14:01] <killah0p> hi hall
[14:01] <Artemios> I've installed ati video driver using EnvyNG and now i can't start X. What have i to do?
[14:01] <nsahoo> hi .. I added a second monitor to the computer. What is the easiest way to make ubuntu recognize it?
[14:01] <leeb9972> sudo apt-get install cappuccino
[14:02] <jecko> slart : I tried but it didnt work out, firstly I think its a console based client and secondly it was the backend that I was installing. Shakespeer is the best DC client for the mac though
[14:02] <foucault> nsahoo, system preferences monitor
[14:02] <journeyman> anyone know when lucid will BE released? i thought it was today?
[14:02] <_gm> hi all, when is it going to release 10.04
[14:02] <llutz> nsahoo: what graphics adaptor? with nivdia, use "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[14:02] <Slart> jecko: even though mac and linux has some common parts native mac apps don't usually work on linux
[14:02] <e-DIO-t> guess he means 10.10
[14:02] <andrek> hi
[14:02] <Slart> !outyet
[14:02] <hal9000_> what time is the new ubuntu set to release?
[14:03] <Artemios> I've installed ati video driver using EnvyNG and now i can't start X. What have i to do?
[14:03] <nsahoo> foucault: you preferences display?
[14:03] <geekphreak> man peole are so much in wait, just a like a sale !!
[14:03] <stodorovic> geekphreak: yeah they have no patience.
[14:03] <geekphreak> yup
[14:03] <Slart> yes.. off to #ubuntu-release-party with all you waiters.. shoo
[14:03] <jecko> Slart : Oh well thats sad, cuz the readme states that even though its written for the mac, the core should work for any UNIX system. BTW I hate Linuxdcpp for being so slow and not supporting smileys :/
[14:03] <foucault> nsahoo, system, preferences, monitor
[14:03] <foucault> nsahoo, what version?
[14:03] <nsahoo> llutz: I have nvidia, but, it does not recognize the EDID info of the second monitor, it detects it correct: dell 1704FPT
[14:04] <nsahoo> foucault: it's the latest
[14:04] <Slart> jecko: perhaps they have a version that doesn't use the mac's native stuff..
[14:04] <usr13> Artemios: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and start over....
[14:04] <hal9000_> k
[14:04] <jecko> Slart No idea about it mate
[14:04] <nsahoo> foucault: how do I check the ubuntu version I am running?
[14:04] <tyrosine> is there a MINIMAL version of ubuntu? something designed with a minimum of sotware installed (i.e., I don't need all OO programs) - the advantage being a smaller ISO size?
[14:05] <Slart> !minimal | tyrosine
[14:05] <id10t> i have an apt mirror, how can i check that i have the latest lucid on there? it updates at 1am daily...
[14:05] <rportugal> nsahoo cat /etc/issue
[14:05] <NFischer> How do i exclude kaffeine from being updated via update-manager?
[14:05] <llutz> !minimal> tyrosine
[14:05] <stodorovic> tyrosine: gentoo has a minimal ISO ;) but i would listen to the bot ubottu instead :)
[14:05] <nsahoo> rportugal: thanks
[14:05] <tyrosine> does the minimal ISO act as a live CD too?
[14:06] <foucault> nsahoo, ~$ cat /etc/lsb-release
[14:06] <Slart> tyrosine: nope
[14:06] <nsahoo> foucault: 9.10
[14:06] <timmillwood> 10.4 yet?
[14:06] <erUSUL> tyrosine: is based on the alternate installer
[14:06] <erUSUL> !outyet
[14:06] <meds_> hi, where can  i ask a question about how to build portmixer under ubuntu
[14:06] <usr13> Artemios: See: http://ubuntuguide.net/install-nvidiaati-graphics-card-driver-in-ubuntu-910karmic  (about 2/3 way down)
[14:07] <jecko> Can we update from Karmic to Lucid through the ISO
[14:07] <Artemios> usr13 thanks
[14:07] <Mokee269> hi, I just did an 10.04 (RC i think) upgrade from 9.10 thinking it wss final.. either way, firefox now cant be moved or resized nothing.... anyone have this problem?
[14:07] <foucault> nsahoo, too busy in here on release day, look in the forums on how to fiddle with your xorg.conf, that is if the automagic stuff does not work,
[14:07] <geekphreak> erUSUL: hi bud !
[14:07] <id10t> jecko, the alt install cd usually has a cd upgrade script on it
[14:07] <erUSUL> geekphreak: hi \o/
[14:07] <nsahoo> foucault: thereis a release today?
[14:07] <NFischer> How do i exclude kaffeine from being updated via update-manager?
[14:07] <foucault> nsahoo, indeed there is.
[14:07] <subone> Can I use the Ubuntu Live CD to boot from an Ubuntu Live USB? I can't boot from USB, was wondering if I can boot from the CD and then redirect to the USB install because the CD drive has errors
[14:07] <Artemios> usr13: i have installed using that program
[14:07] <usr13> Artemios: I do not know how useful it will be but...
[14:08] <foucault> subone, the cd drive has errors?
[14:08] <jecko> id10t : Thanks
[14:08] <nsahoo> nice
[14:08] <geekphreak> NFischer: unchk it, not recommended
[14:08] <foucault> subone, the cd has errors?
[14:08] <Mokee269> foucault, many drives (especially laptops which im guessing he's on) has errors reading
[14:08] <Mokee269> troubles readcing*
[14:08] <Artemios> usr13: and after rebooting i have only text mode
[14:08] <Mokee269> reading.. the drive ahead of the CD
[14:08] <geekphreak> NFischer: any particular reason, you want old build?
[14:08] <LordDiabolus> Anyone know if they're also rebranding the main site today?  I needs it bad!
[14:08] <Mokee269> hi, I just did an 10.04 (RC i think) upgrade from 9.10 thinking it wss final.. either way, firefox now cant be moved or resized nothing.... anyone have this problem?
[14:09] <NFischer> geekphreak, say! yes but i want it to permanently be excluded since the newest version does not work for me
[14:09] <geekphreak> Mokee269: works fine here, did you try to create a new profile to test mate?
[14:09] <usr13> Mokee269: What version of firefox is it?
[14:10] <geekphreak> NFischer: afaik mate no, you will always be reminded about updates available on a package
[14:10] <foucault> subone, you could make a cd that will boot the usb, possibly, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-boot-cd-for-ubuntu-810/
[14:10] <Mokee269> one sec usr13
[14:10] <subone> i dont have any more blank cds
[14:10] <geekphreak> Mokee269: backup current profile before you make new one just incae :d
[14:10] <JManGt> join the release party in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:10] <Mokee269> usr12: 3.6.3 (and 1.0 canonical)
[14:11] <geekphreak> subone:  you can use ubuntu on a pendrive
[14:11] <Mokee269> usr13*
[14:11] <Mokee269> and its alwayson top i just noticed suddenly :/
[14:11] <Artemios> which command can i use to run synaptic pakage manager in the text mode?
[14:11] <Mokee269> so cant change focus to other window and can't move it, rendering it useless
[14:11] <fernandoc1> how to enable webgl on Linux?
[14:11] <Taliesin`> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/570765
[14:11] <dojo> Artemios: sudo apt-get update/upgrade
[14:11] <toast0r> hi dewds
[14:11] <Taliesin`> fust a fyi for those who have not seen it
[14:11] <dojo> anyone know when today 10.10 comes out
[14:11] <geekphreak> Artemios: aptitude ?
[14:11] <iceroot> Artemios: maybe you want aptitude?
[14:11] <mrdk> Hi douchbags
[14:11] <iceroot> dojo: no
[14:11] <NFischer> geekphreak, geez..
[14:11] <dojo> iceroot: thx
[14:12] <dojo> i'll check back in later
[14:12] <NFischer> geekphreak, thx
[14:12] <Mokee269> great, so I am tyhe only one who got this problem
[14:12] <Mokee269> dang
[14:12] <geekphreak> NFischer: welcome , hope that was in a good way :d
[14:12] <Mokee269> how do i uninstall/reinstall firefox then?
[14:12] <fernandoc1> does someone knows How can I enable WebGL on Ubuntu???
[14:13] <usr13> Mokee269: apt-get remove firefox
[14:13] <geekphreak> Mokee269: purge, then reinstall >> sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox >> then install it
[14:13] <geekphreak> Mokee269: like i said backup your $HOME/.mozilla
[14:13] <toast0r> how to leave this useless channel?
[14:13] <Taliesin`> /p
[14:13] <Mokee269> thank you usr13 and geekphreak
[14:13] <usr13> toast0r:  /leave
[14:13] <stevecam> /part
[14:13] <geekphreak> toast0r:  use /part
[14:13] <PMantis> toast0r: /quit
[14:13] <subone> geekphreak, yes but my computer wont boot from USB, i need to boot from the CD and then somehow redirect to boot from the USB drive or tell the live cd that the files are on the USB drive so that install doesnt break in the middle while cd drive fails
[14:14] <brucey> guys is ubuntu 10.04 out today?
[14:14] <Mokee269> waaait
[14:14] <erUSUL> !outyet > brucey
[14:14] <xrfang_> My combo drive is broken, it can only read dvd disc but not cd-r, so I burned ubuntu iso onto a DVD+R disc, no matter what I tried (ubuntu/kubuntu/arch...), it keeps telling me input/output error...
[14:14] <usr13> brucey: see ubuntu.com
[14:14] <geekphreak> subone:  good luck with that one mate
[14:14] <Taliesin`> !outyet > Taliesin`
[14:14] <brucey> kk ta
[14:15] <xrfang_>  my question now is what is the easiest way to install ubuntu from an iso directly, now I am running windows 7, but would like to get rid of it after ubuntu installed..
[14:15] <toast0r> hi again, it's not so useless anyway
[14:15] <Mokee269> its NOT firefox.. I just opened gedit, and it also well it could be moved around but also is 'always on top'
[14:15] <Mokee269> and only has a blank square on the bottom taskbar :/
[14:15] <Mokee269> and all the close buttons are missing
[14:15] <Taliesin`> Lucid is due sometime on the 29th of April. <- it' is the 29th
[14:15] <Taliesin`> it's almost the 30th here ;)
[14:15] <geekphreak> toast0r:  aww you are so kind :p
[14:15] <mournkaye> Good afternoon all!  Can anyone tell me how to hide join/part/quit notifications in Smuxi?
[14:15] <wernbrenk> ubottu : I have the same question as brucey , please reply to me to.
[14:15] <mrdk> hello folks, how can I backup my RAM?
[14:15] <Mokee269> IO just did an upgrade form 9.10 to 10.04 prolly RC..l oh sigh
[14:15] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  question for you?
[14:15] <Mokee269> dont tell me its buggored and i need ot reinstall whole ubuntu now :;/
[14:15] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  are you planning to reinstall windows again ?
[14:15] <usr13> xrfang_: Under windows7 I doubt that it's possible.  Just burn a CD
[14:15] <xrfang_> geekphreak: I need help to do so
[14:15] <toast0r> geekphreak: i know
[14:15] <xrfang_> no I do NOT want windows
[14:16] <jrib> Mokee269: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support (you're fine)
[14:16] <wolf0day> hi all when 10.4 is comeing???????????????????????
[14:16] <jrib> !lucid | wolf0day
[14:16] <geekphreak> xrfang_: well it should be ok then mate , :)
[14:16] <Mokee269> mrdk LOL backup your ram? you can use dd to get the ram's raw contents
[14:16] <xrfang_> I just want to install (k)ubuntu on to my new hard drive.
[14:16] <usr13> wolf0day: We know.
[14:16] <Mokee269> read up on dd
[14:16] <mrdk> Mokee269: some guy told me that I should do it
[14:16] <mrdk> Mokee269: I guess backups are always good
[14:16] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  got blanks cd's?
[14:17] <xrfang_> the headake is that I cannot boot from my external usb cdrom, and the internal one is partly broken.
[14:17] <geekphreak> xrfang_: any pen drives?
[14:17] <xrfang_> I do have blank cd, but burning CD does NOT work (due to the partly broken internal drive)
[14:17] <TSCDan> So, do we know when exactly Lucid is going to be posted? :-)
[14:17] <Mokee269> usr13, geekphreak: just installed 10.04 by upgrading... and its not firefox, its the whole system I notice... close buttons aren't rendering and windows always stay on top... except this one :p
[14:17] <Ari_Lazarus> Hi guys. I'm trying to make a shortcut that basically runs a particular terminal program. I think this is shell scripting, but it's been a long time since I did any of this. Am I going down the right path?
[14:17] <xrfang_> and the stupid benq a52 cannot BOOT from pen drive :(
[14:17] <xrfang_> the key problem is booting,...
[14:17] <Mokee269> mrdk, your RAM though is flushed often, making ab ackup of your ram .. i think he meant maybe creating a ram disk?
[14:17] <xrfang_> and,
[14:17] <Taliesin`> TSCDan: waiting on teh desktop ISO's to be respun
[14:17] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  well there is 1 more thing you can do, but you will need to keep windows
[14:18] <Mokee269> anyway sorry, I can't help you more, because I don't understand the problem mrrdk
[14:18] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  use something like wubi to install ubuntu
[14:18] <stodorovic> Mokee269: you cannot use dd to access ram
[14:18] <usr13> Mokee269: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:18] <mrdk> Mokee269: I'm not sure, I just don't want to lose my data
[14:18] <TSCDan> Taliesin`: Any ETA or just "when it's ready"?
[14:18] <geekphreak> Mokee269:  do you get any error messages or anything?
[14:18] <Taliesin`> when it's ready AFAIK
[14:18] <Mokee269> stodorovic, dd can extract ram contents, im pretty sure
[14:18] <jrib> TSCDan: the latter
[14:18] <Mokee269> no geekphreak
[14:18] <Taliesin`> they are trying to get it out Aas fast as they can
[14:18] <usr13> Mokee269: What video card do you have?
[14:18] <TSCDan> Taliesin`: jrib: Damn, thanks :P
[14:18] <WoRoN> hi guys :) who knows, when 10.04 will be relized? Tomorrow?
[14:18] <Taliesin`> but they also need to have mirror re-mirror the iso
[14:18] <jrib> Ari_Lazarus: what terminal program exactly?
[14:19] <stodorovic> Mokee269: i doubt it. Even /proc/kmem would be virtual address space, not the real physical memory
[14:19] <TSCDan> Taliesin`: But they can get the torrent out pretty easily
[14:19] <usr13> Mokee269: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:19] <xrfang_> geekphreak: can I get rid of windows after installing using wubi?
[14:19] <Taliesin`> WoRoN: well for me it will be, it's almost 11pm here (29th)....
[14:19] <Taliesin`> TSCDan: indeed
[14:19] <Taliesin`> but then people will be hitting mirrors going "Where is it?"
[14:19] <geekphreak> xrfang_: no you need to keep windows too :)
[14:19] <xrfang_> :'(
[14:19] <xrfang_> this is not an option .... :)
[14:19] <Black_Phantom> where can I report adobe flash bug report ?
[14:20] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  well get your cd/rw working man :)
[14:20] <TSCDan> haha
[14:20] <Mokee269> dlling pastebinit usr13
[14:20] <Ari_Lazarus> jrib: I'm trying to run a xampp stack. It's in some directory somewhere, but I want to see it all unfold before me in the terminal so I know what got started and what didn't
[14:20] <Mokee269> definitnhely an X issue it seems
[14:20] <stodorovic> jrib: you actually think anyone actually reads /topic? ;)
[14:20] <Mokee269> so thank you usr13 for picking up on that
[14:20] <TSCDan> stodorovic: I did.
[14:20] <xrfang_> geekphreak:  I also wonder, can I burn a CDROM iso onto a DVD+R disc?
[14:20] <usr13> Mokee269: send URL
[14:20] <stodorovic> TSCDan: :]
[14:20] <Mokee269> http://pastebin.com/38qtjkqF : usr13
[14:20] <jrib> stodorovic: no, but now I'm just going to tell them to
[14:20] <xrfang_> it boot well, livecd running well, but i/o error when I try to install
[14:20] <geekphreak> Ari_Lazarus:  think its in /opt
[14:20] <WoRoN> Taliesin` 11 pm? What time is it now?
[14:20] <meds_> http://pastebin.com/rgxbc92k
[14:21] <stodorovic> jrib: good point
[14:21] <Taliesin`> im saying it's 11pm in 10minutes where I am
[14:21] <Ari_Lazarus> geekphreak: yeah, it is. I just want a nice launcher sitting on me desktop that opens a terminal and runs it :D
[14:21] <Taliesin`> on the 29th of april :P
[14:21]  * Ari_Lazarus is ubuntu nublet.
[14:21] <Taliesin`> so it will probably be tomorrow for me if it's more hten a hour away :)
[14:21] <jrib> Ari_Lazarus: why are you using xampp instead of just installing apache, mysql, and php the supported way through the repositories?
[14:21] <Mokee269> is an error there.. .. I keep having to close all windows cos they are always on top and this one always beneath
[14:21] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  if drive is broken how do you intend to do it?
[14:21] <OutCast> i have no sound in Quake, what need to do?
[14:21] <Ari_Lazarus> jrib: Because that would take so much effort? :p
[14:22] <jrib> Ari_Lazarus: no, less effort in fact.  Take a look:
[14:22] <jrib> !lamp > Ari_Lazarus
[14:22] <geekphreak> Ari_Lazarus: its actually easier and you learn a lot :d
[14:22] <geekphreak> hi jrib
[14:22] <NerdsMcgee_> My battery disappeared from my tray. How do I get it back? :S
[14:22] <jrib> geekphreak: hi
[14:22] <Mokee269> stodorovic, hmm I should have the link somewhere, a forensics guy I think, who shows what one can do with dd.. very nice article and im pretty sure he demonstrates how to get data from ram
[14:22] <meds_> you shoud screw: bang! bang! tra-ta-ta-ta-ta
[14:22] <Mokee269> somehow but ok, I don't know personally
[14:23] <geekphreak> Mokee269:  it is just firefox , cause i got a test for you
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[14:23] <veloxid> hey
[14:23] <veloxid> I do have some problems with my speedsteppin,
[14:23] <geekphreak> Mokee269: try creating a test user and logging from it , see if it works ok there
[14:23] <xrfang_> geekphreak: it is partly broken :) it can read dvd, but cannot read cd
[14:23] <stodorovic> Mokee269: you are confusing things. You can use dd to get parts of ram, but you cannot take a copy of the whole physical RAM - the kernel's paging code does not let you
[14:23] <OutCast> i have no sound in Quake, what need to do?
[14:23] <Mokee269> geekphreak, : why then when i run terminal and gedit now.. for example. they are always on top, n I cant shift focus to this... plus they dont have the minimize close buttons etc
[14:23] <Ari_Lazarus> I actually did try that first, I think. It's a lot more effort than just hitting 'lampp start' after running a tar.gz :/
[14:24] <st23am2> lucid torrent up yet?
[14:24] <xrfang_> and this is the 2nd incident, I just changed a broken harddisk on this notebook :(
[14:24] <jrib> Ari_Lazarus: well you just run one command and then it starts automatically
[14:24] <Ubuntu_Nutzer> Hi could someone tell me when 10.04 final is comming out?
[14:24] <steelbox> does someone knows exactly when the new ubuntu version will come out today?
[14:24] <Mokee269> it seems to be X, as on the bottom too when i run them, they dont show up as they should
[14:24] <Mokee269> cos I cant use the bottom taskbar
[14:24] <geekphreak> Mokee269:  you can add that option manually , aint hard >> right click panel >> add to panel >> windows minimizer something
[14:24] <jrib> Ari_Lazarus: you run one command to install I should say
[14:24] <greezmunkey> Mokee269: did you try changing themes to see if that would help?
[14:24] <usr13> Mokee269: you could try:  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg.conf
[14:24] <oktay> Ubuntu_Nutzer: #ubuntu-release-party
[14:24] <jrib> steelbox: see the topic
[14:25] <geekphreak> xrfang_: stay away from my pc :d
[14:25] <Mokee269> greezmunkey,  yes i did
[14:25] <Ari_Lazarus> and a few to configure :p
[14:25] <Ubuntu_Nutzer> Thns oktay
[14:25] <Mokee269> didn thelp and its not just firefox*
[14:25] <Ubuntu_Nutzer> Thanks oktay
[14:25] <usr13> Mokee269: Or dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  or gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[14:25] <Mokee269> trying now usr13
[14:25] <steelbox> jrib: oups sorry, thx :)
[14:25] <OutCast> anyone plays Quake3 on ubuntu??
[14:25] <jrib> Ari_Lazarus: if you want to change something sure, but the defaults are sane
[14:25] <stodorovic> OutCast: me
[14:25] <stodorovic> ages ago
[14:25] <veloxid> it always runs on 2ghz even though i tried to use a userconfiguration with 800mhz, it always changes to 2ghz, is it possible that something runs wrong with my kernel driver cpuidle? (ubuntu 10.4, dell vostro1310 laptop(core2duo))
[14:25] <geekphreak> xrfang_: just kidding mate
[14:25] <xrfang_> ...
[14:25] <OutCast> stodorovic how to put on the sound?
[14:26] <xrfang_> not in the mood :p
[14:26] <geekphreak> Mokee269:  quetion did updates went  ok, or you had any issues , errors or crashes?
[14:26] <stodorovic> OutCast: you put on the sound as you put it on. it just works.
[14:26] <geekphreak> xrfang_:  blah :p
[14:26] <xrfang_> this is the 2nd day I am running Windows
[14:26] <Mokee269> geekphreak, seemed it all went fine no warning or error msgs
[14:26] <geekphreak> xrfang_: honestly dvd should work too mate though
[14:26] <ryann> is there a media player that will properly play m4b audio books?  slides AND sound?
[14:26] <stodorovic> geekphreak: you British? ;)
[14:26] <OutCast> stodorovic i have no sound in game, but in other app sound worx
[14:26] <xrfang_> I hope to get ubuntu installed without changing this cdrom, plan to change laptop later anyway hehehe
[14:26] <Mokee269> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg.conf
[14:26] <Mokee269> Package `xorg.conf' is not installed and no info is available.
[14:26] <Mokee269> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[14:26] <Mokee269> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[14:26] <Mokee269> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xorg.conf is not installed
[14:26] <FloodBot4> Mokee269: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <stodorovic> OutCast: google and diagnose it
[14:27] <usr13> xrfang_: What is the problem?
[14:27] <geekphreak> stodorovic: i dont think so mate
[14:27] <stodorovic> geekphreak: ah :/
[14:27] <xrfang_> the strange thing seems that it is not fully compatible, -- the cd-rom iso burning onto a dvd+r disk seems not working
[14:27] <geirha> Mokee269: xserver-xorg, not xorg.conf
[14:27] <greezmunkey> xrfang_: the "burning howto" seems to support dvds with a cautionary message: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[14:27] <Mokee269> did the otye ok i did that too
[14:27] <xrfang_> usr13: I am looking for a easy way to install ubuntu from harddisk
[14:27] <Mokee269> no change.. ill reboot once and see if it shakkes things into place and come back
[14:27] <OutCast> stodorovic terminal write me "access denied", and i dont know what to do
[14:27] <circuitman> i cant play wma audio even though i installed the ASF plugin
[14:27] <usr13> xrfang_: Use CD not DVD
[14:28] <xrfang_> greezmunkey: I burned the disc on windows, not ubuntu
[14:28] <usr13> xrfang_: You can not burn a CD image to a DVD
[14:28] <stodorovic> OutCast: google for it. learn something. strace it! :)
[14:28] <stodorovic> usr13: yes you can :) k3b ftw
[14:28] <llutz> usr13: you can
[14:28] <xrfang_> usr13: the problem is that my laptop's built-in combo drive is broken it can only read dvd disc, but not cdrom -- how strange...
[14:29] <usr13> stodorovic: llutz He is using MS Windows
[14:29] <llutz> usr13: doesn't matter
[14:29] <xrfang_> the issue with ubuntu disc on DVD is that it boot into desktop ok, but keeps telling me i/o error when trying to install. this is not an ubuntu issue
[14:29] <circuitman> i cant play wma audio even though i installed the ASF plugin
[14:29] <geekphreak> usr13:  dont matter mate
[14:29] <xrfang_> I burned kubuntu, and arch linux, all same problem
[14:29] <stodorovic> usr13: oh :( KDE 4 for Windows + k3b for windows? ;)
[14:29] <circuitman> help me guys
[14:29] <usr13> geekphreak: llutz stodorovic Ok, I stand corrected.
[14:29] <llutz> usr13: just the fact a broken burning soft won't burn, doesn't mean you cannot.
[14:29] <usr13> Tell xrfang_
[14:31] <subone> Can I use the Ubuntu Live CD to boot from an Ubuntu Live USB? I can't boot from USB, was wondering if I can boot from the CD and then redirect to the USB install because the CD drive has errors
[14:31] <Mokee269> ok : I think some special package in firefox somehow dismantled the X... when restarting firefox whole thign wasnt working, a reboot seems to have sorted it, (dont know if it had to do with the commands u gave me usr13) but ye geekphreak, usr13, et al... thanks... looks like it stabilised
[14:31] <NET||abuse> hmm,m ,,  i'm worried about my task bar... i've no space on the bar for open windows!  http://www.ashebrowne.com/tmp/screenshot135.png
[14:31] <geekphreak> Mokee269:  good luck no worries mate
[14:31] <Mokee269> yup, can confirm X is working again now
[14:31] <usr13> Well, it is obvious that you need the right tool for the right job.  But I always just burn CD images to CDs and DVD images to DVDs.  (I believe in having the right media for the right job, AS WELL AS, having the right tool for the right job.
[14:31] <Mokee269> :)
[14:31] <xrfang_> same problem as subone's need a solution...
[14:31] <greezmunkey> Sounds like xrfang_ is in a "can't get there from here" scenerio, at least until he fixes his puter, or can access another one.
[14:31] <Mokee269> !party
[14:32] <NET||abuse> i need to compact the ubuntu menu's and the time display..
[14:32] <geekyogi> WTF.. still no download link :(
[14:32] <NET||abuse> hamster is a bit greedy too..
[14:32] <geekphreak> greezmunkey: agreed
[14:32] <ryann> NET||abuse:  can't you just make the tark bar taller (wider)?
[14:32] <circuitman> how to play wma audio files in rythm box music player
[14:32] <ryann> task*
[14:32] <geekphreak> !wtf > geekyogi
[14:32] <stodorovic> usr13: I've not bought any CD-Rs for a long time, yet still have to burn CD images. DVD-R seems usable enough in k3b. I always wonder why it works - but it just does.
[14:32] <NET||abuse> ryann, sorry.>??? the "tark bar" ???
[14:32] <ryann> THE TASK BAR
[14:33] <Brimstones> Ryan and his Tassk >P
[14:33] <geekyogi> am sorrry
[14:33] <xrfang_> greezmunkey: I can access another computer, but it seems that it cannot help me install ubuntu on *this* computer :)
[14:33] <Mokee269> dont tell me we wont be able to move the minimize position lol in this release dang :p
[14:33] <greezmunkey> xrfang_: apparantly that puter can't burn??
[14:34] <tiina> I dont get it how do I get to swedish ubuntu channel here?
[14:34] <Mokee269> greezmunkey, I got a friend, she used her l.aptop so muich it literally caught on fire... now it is better she ssays LOL
[14:34] <circuitman> i cant play wma audio.plz help me guys
[14:34] <nsahoo> trying to upgrade to 10.04 rc . it's saying failed to fetch some. like http://mirror.umoss.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/festlex-cmu/festlex-cmu_1.4.0-6_all.deb
[14:34] <NET||abuse> ryann, you talking about making it 2 layers?
[14:34] <greezmunkey> Mokee269: heh
[14:34] <NET||abuse> ryann, well, the whole point for me is i don't like having a bar at the top and bottom?
[14:34] <xrfang_> greezmunkey: I use an external dvd-writer, it burns pretty well.
[14:34] <xrfang_> the problem is on the internal cd-reader of this laptop
[14:34] <Brimstones> greezmunkey: Its called fjukkmunkey because you should go seige a lady or man depending on which one you prefer :)
[14:34] <geekphreak> circuitman: did you try vlc?
[14:35] <usr13> stodorovic: I have 3 media types on hand: CD-R, DVD+R 8X, DVD+R 16X
[14:35] <circuitman> no
[14:35] <NET||abuse> ryann, as i don't like constricting the content on my screen... but that said,, i'm kinda pushing things space wise then :)
[14:35] <geekphreak> circuitman:  try using vlc please
[14:35] <geekyogi> Geekphreak am sorry..  Hope are high for new Ubuntu release.. :)
[14:35] <greezmunkey> Brimstones: eh?
[14:35] <circuitman> geekphreak: its more than 40 mb to download
[14:35] <geekphreak> geekyogi: no worries mate :), likewise
[14:36] <geekphreak> circuitman: which player are you using?
[14:36] <Brimstones> greezmunkey: Ok, thats it, im stripping you of your Munkey title :)
[14:36] <bazhang> !ot > Brimstones
[14:36] <circuitman> geekphreak: rhythm box
[14:36] <greezmunkey> (thanks)
[14:36] <Brimstones> bazhang: Go to hell fucking looser. Ill build your OS for you.
[14:36] <circuitman> geekphreak: it asks for a ASF plugin
[14:37] <gmr_> ncomputing in ubuntu 64bits?
[14:37] <geekphreak> circuitman:  can you open totem and try to play that wma on it, it should download the required codec and all for you to install
[14:37] <stodorovic> !wtf > stodorovic
[14:37] <digitaloktay> !lubuntu
[14:37] <circuitman> geekphreak:i dont have totem
[14:37] <playmo> Is Lusid out?
[14:37] <usr13> stodorovic: The 8X is 8.4G,  16X is 4.7G
[14:38] <rosco_y> I set the "autohide" property on my top panel to true, now I can't seem to get it back, can anyone tell me how to restore my top panel?
[14:38] <greezmunkey> xrfang_: have you looked inside the external writer, can it be temporarily installed on your puter?
[14:38] <ArtVandalae> playmo, #ubuntu-release-party
[14:38] <geekphreak> circuitman:  press alt+f2, type totem see if anything comes ?
[14:38] <stodorovic> usr13: ooh. double later, or is it double sided single layer?
[14:38] <nmvictor> Wow 1823 guys speaking in #ubuntu today, this must truely be a long awaited day, but Lucid aint in yet, according to www.ubuntu.com, whats up?
[14:38] <subone> xrfang_, have you tried http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:38] <Taliesin`> nmvictor: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/fatal-flaw-in-grub-found-at-very-late.html
[14:38] <rygar> hah i as going to ask the same
[14:38] <geekphreak> !resetpanels | rosco_y
[14:38] <usr13> stodorovic: Double layer
[14:38] <circuitman> geekphreak:it open a movie player
[14:38] <nmvictor> Taliesin`: what was that?
[14:39] <rosco_y> ubottu: ty
[14:39] <Taliesin`> nmvictor: reason why the release is delayed currently
[14:39] <nmvictor> Any one tell me why Lucid is taking too long to show
[14:39] <geekphreak> circuitman:  open your wma file in it
[14:39] <subone> xrfang_, also note, that wubi only installs ubuntu to run within windows, so that is not a proper solution to what you're asking
[14:39] <usr13> stodorovic: Double layer - 240MIN
[14:39] <reisi_> playmo: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE5Ng <-- this might be the latest
[14:40] <circuitman> geekphreak:opened but it asking the ASF demuxer
[14:40] <geekphreak> circuitman: well download it , whatever it is asking you to :)
[14:40] <nmvictor> Taliesin`: ooh,I got it. Why now, I had bought a router just to stream Lucid to my Toshiba
[14:40] <NET||abuse> ryann, fixed my layout... http://www.ashebrowne.com/tmp/screenshot137.png
[14:40] <circuitman> geekphreak:but how to downaload that plugin
[14:40] <Taliesin`> nmvictor: it was only discovered at the last moment
[14:41] <usr13> stodorovic: 4.7G is 120min and 8.5G is 240min  (It's whats on the lable)
[14:41] <xrfang_> greezmunkey, it is too much trouble to disassemble the notebook and replace the drive... I will ask for professional help tomorrow. For now trying with some alternative booting method ...
[14:41] <Taliesin`> literally like an hour before release iirc
[14:41] <Serv-U> What is time of release of ubuntu 10.04 ?????
[14:41] <geekphreak> circuitman: it gives you that option mate, or use synaptic to get it
[14:41] <khamael> is there a way to find out what kind om ram my computer uses?
[14:41] <stodorovic> usr13: i dont' work in minutes - GB instead :)
[14:41] <unmannedleech> Yo
[14:41] <nmvictor> Taliesin`: so when are they gonna give it?
[14:41] <reisi_> Serv-U: check out http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE5Ng
[14:42] <unmannedleech> Why isn't 10.04 out yet?
[14:42] <Anonymous22> Is it out yet?
[14:42] <Taliesin`> once they have respunn the new desktop iso's
[14:42] <Serv-U> when is ubuntu 10.04 releasing
[14:42] <Serv-U> what will be its time
[14:42] <Taliesin`> No time exactly
[14:42] <Serv-U> we are eager to know
[14:42] <Taliesin`> it's been delayed
[14:42] <Taliesin`> reason -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/fatal-flaw-in-grub-found-at-very-late.html
[14:42] <Serv-U> why?????
[14:42] <Anonymous22> To when
[14:42] <Taliesin`> Till when the new .iso files are ready...
[14:42] <usr13> stodorovic: I sometimes burn Video DVDs.  Each time I get a DVD, I make a copy to play.  The kids get hold of DVDs somehow and ... well you know...
[14:42] <wolf0day>  when is ubuntu 10.04 releasing?????
[14:42] <circuitman> geekphreak: from the synaptic manager i installed a plugin called xmms2-plugin-asf
[14:43] <reisi_> could someone update that omgubuntu link to the topic? :)
[14:43] <Mokee269> ok geeky question.. how do I resize the bottom taskbar :)
[14:43] <Ubunuone1> hi
[14:43] <circuitman> geekphreak: but no use it still says that the ASF plugin is not installed
[14:43] <xrfang_> thanks subone, now I have 2 options, one is unetbootin, the other is  PLop(http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#runwin), which is metion on this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  I wonder which one shall I try first? :)
[14:43] <seth_> hi all!
[14:43] <rosco_y> hey seth
[14:43] <Taliesin`> hi seth
[14:43] <seth_> i have a question
[14:43] <geirha> Mokee269: Right click it and choose properties
[14:44] <llutz> reisi_: you really expect anyone reading the topic?
[14:44] <rosco_y> ubottu: thank you, my panels are back :)
[14:44] <Mokee269> geirha yes i was silly enough its populated just had to go to another workspace, gosh its been a while haha
[14:44] <subone> xrfang_, i have only tried unetbootin and it worked fine from windows, make sure you read any notes there may be for the operating system you are installing from
[14:44] <Mokee269> xx
[14:44] <reisi_> llutz: well i didin't either; checked that after i wrote by prev line :)
[14:44] <geekphreak> circuitman:  do you have gstreamer bad  ugly installed?
[14:45] <silverrocker> hi what time is ubuntu 10.01 comming?
[14:45] <silverrocker> .04*
[14:45] <Taliesin`> silverrocker: Ububntu has been delayed due to a serious flaw found in grub at the last moment, please see the following url -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/fatal-flaw-in-grub-found-at-very-late.html
[14:45] <Phil_FL> seth_, what is your question ? just state your question
[14:45] <seth_> today is release of 10.04 lucid lynx. I can't find dvd.iso distrib's on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com.
[14:45] <geirha> !outyet | silverrocker
[14:45] <xrfang_> subone: thanks, is unetbootin a way to permanently install linux to harddisk (erasing windows on the hard disk) or it is a way to install linux to usb drive?
[14:45] <circuitman> geekphreak: neither
[14:46] <Phil_FL> seth_,  Want to know when 10.04 Lucid Lynx will be released? discussion in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:46] <geekphreak> circuitman: install them all
[14:46] <zipito> hello
[14:46] <circuitman> geekphreak: u mean both bad and ugly
[14:46] <zipito> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and I need libstdc++.so.5
[14:46] <zipito> :)
[14:46] <geekphreak> circuitman:  yes sir, i would get vlc too, ;)
[14:46] <greezmunkey> xrfang_: check this out: http://www.freewarereview.info/2007-06/tftpd32_for_windows_-_unleash_the_pxe_bios_network_boot_feature_within.html
[14:47] <RedNifre_backup> wtf? 1857 people?
[14:47] <uLinux> Best image mount tool?
[14:47] <kompensator> cd ..
[14:47] <kompensator> omg
[14:47] <RedNifre_backup> ls
[14:47] <kompensator> sry
[14:47] <jrib> !iso | uLinux
[14:47] <uLinux> tks jrib
[14:48] <karthikkottapall> my settings are not getting saved on Ubuntu.......I am using vbox
[14:48] <nmvictor> I am completely stressed, ever waited for you girlfriend for hours only for her to call and say she's not gonna make it today? Thats how I feal, except much worse
[14:48] <subone> xrfang_, it allows you to mount an iso and boot from it and install ubuntu to your HDD, you can partition the drive however you like during the installation, including removing the Windows partition
[14:48] <circuitman> geekphreak: selected the packages but could not apply
[14:48] <circuitman> geekphreak: the apply button is not active in synaptic
[14:49] <geekphreak> circuitman:  how did you open it?
[14:49] <llutz> nmvictor: waiting for lucid? go out, get a life then
[14:49] <circuitman> using synaptic manager
[14:49] <xrfang_> thanks subone
[14:49] <circuitman> geekphreak: i mean by pressing alt+f2
[14:50] <geekphreak> circuitman:  make up your mind man
[14:50] <geekphreak> circuitman:  >> click system >>administration >>synaptic
[14:50] <dudeface> i heard ubuntus out
[14:50] <bazhang> dudeface, its not
[14:51] <dudeface> yes it is, i can see it
[14:51] <bazhang> dudeface, please stop that . its not
[14:51] <stodorovic> dudeface: it's been out for years
[14:51] <dudeface> lol
[14:51] <circuitman> geekphreak:sorry
[14:51] <Imran-UK> sportsman bet that it's out by 1500 BST
[14:51] <ywgx> happy happy,10.04!!!
[14:52] <Pici> !party
[14:52] <toastedmilk> Can anyone say offhand if the fglrx driver works for 9.10 with a Radeon X1900(legacy) card?
[14:52] <blkdomini> hi
[14:52] <nmvictor> llutz: yea, I was earnestly waiting for Lusid so I could boot into its Live CD and use it to format my 80GB occupied by karmic and try out windows 7,
[14:52] <Lachi666> quit
[14:52] <AdvoWork> normally to connect to a share, i do: Places > Connect To Server > Select Windows Share, put in: ServerIP,Folder, Tick Add bookmark and give it a bookmark name. Can i do this automatically, from a script some how?
[14:52] <circuitman> geekphreak: nothing comes for as default in ubuntu. had to depend on downlaod for every thing
[14:52] <rampage73> anyone know of a good channel for iscsi info with ubuntu
[14:53] <nmvictor> llutz: i really should get a life, shouldn't I?
[14:53] <nimrod10`> so when can people donwload lucid ? the day after the actual release ? I knew there is some canonical policy in place but I forgot which
[14:53] <geekphreak> circuitman: i find it ok, no worries here
[14:53] <jrib> nimrod10`: the second it's released...
[14:53] <balkierode> has 10.04 released or not?
[14:53] <jrib> balkierode: see the /topic
[14:53] <llutz> nmvictor: at least think about your relation to a piece of software ;)
[14:53] <balkierode> the day is almost over.
[14:53] <nimrod10`> ok so it means it is not released yet jrib , we are on the 29 04
[14:53] <jrib> nimrod10`: correct
[14:54] <antonio__> hi, this doesn't work, < join test0.txt `sort -d test2.txt` >
[14:54] <rumpsy> hey
[14:54] <nmvictor> llutz: Its not a piece of software, it my every desire
[14:54] <volksman> any nfs masters around?  I'm trying to export a directory that has a bind mounted device inside it.  The directory gets exported but the bound mount is empty on the client.  Any ideas?  http://dpaste.com/188994/
[14:54] <volksman> using Karmic
[14:54] <nmvictor> llutz: its the life you want me to get
[14:54] <circuitman> geekphreak:i have dial up connection that why
[14:54] <rumpsy> i installed xdebug using apt-get, so where it installed in my filesystem
[14:54] <rumpsy> any guess
[14:54] <subone> is there anyway i can install ubuntu while booted from the livecd without using the files located on the cd? cd drive is bad, wont boot from usb
[14:55] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: hey
[14:55] <geekphreak> circuitman:  i cannot do anything about that, you are own you own :)
[14:55] <Gorak> rumpsy: which xdebug
[14:55] <Pici> rumpsy: dpkg -L xdebug
[14:55] <rumpsy> xdebug for php5
[14:55] <circuitman> geekphreak: at least in the 10.4 make everything as default
[14:55] <toastedmilk> Can anyone say offhand if the fglrx driver works for 9.10 with a Radeon X1900(legacy) card?
[14:56] <odie5533> I'm trying to set up an sshd. Why are there keys in both ~/.ssh/ and /etc/ssh_host_key ?
[14:56] <NyteBlade> Have they removed suhosin from Ubuntu 10.04? Because that thing kinda blows.
[14:56] <queso> Is it safe to upgrade from Jaunty to Lucid using the Distributuion Upgrade button in the Update Manager?
[14:56] <volksman> odie5533, the keys in ~/ssh are your own
[14:56] <rumpsy> so any guess
[14:56] <nmvictor> Someone gueses that ubuntu is going the redhat way, I mean fully commercial
[14:56] <circuitman> geekphreak:most users are wasting their precious bandwidth in downloading
[14:56] <rumpsy> shall i use dlocate
[14:56] <odie5533> volksman: Do I need both? Are both used if I have both?
[14:56] <mournkaye> odie5533: The key in /etc is the key for your *machine*, the one in ~ is for your *user*
[14:56] <rumpsy> i installed xdebug for its xdebug.so file
[14:56] <geekphreak> circuitman:  thats with any system
[14:56] <volksman> odie5533, yes...what mournkaye said... :)
[14:56] <tarzeau> nmvictor: why should they?
[14:57] <rumpsy> Pici: i found it thanks
[14:57] <tarzeau> nmvictor: they'd lose all their users to debian, fedora or google os
[14:57] <rumpsy> i used dlocate
[14:57] <rumpsy> :)
[14:57] <llutz> odie5533: the ones in /etc/ssh are to authenticate your host. the one in ~/.ssh are used to authenticate YOU to remote hosts
[14:57] <Matsy> Hello ;p
[14:57] <UnknownSoldierFr> hello
[14:57] <odie5533> should I make a key in ~/.ssh/ if I deleted them? Why is it useful to have one there too?
[14:57] <toastedmilk> odie5533, to authenticate both host and client
[14:58] <llutz> odie5533: go and read about ssh-keys, then you will see the reason for those keys
[14:58] <circuitman> geekphreak: i have linux mint on my virtual machine.it does it play wma with out any download
[14:58] <mournkaye> odie5533: You don't have to have on in ~/.ssh - but if you do set it up properly it can save you from having to use passwords
[14:58] <mournkaye> (although you should still password-protect your key file ;-)
[14:58] <MgMt> anyone know the eta of 10.04?
[14:58] <Matsy> Hm, I can't seem to format my SD card properly anymore within Ubuntu, I've tried the Disk Utility, mkfs.vfat, and then fsck.vfat, and I seem to get back really strange errors. ;(
[14:59] <ubu_user> !party > MgMt
[14:59] <circuitman> geekphreak: also tell me how to access host system files on my virtual machine
[14:59] <ubu_user> MgMt, there is no ETA right now
[14:59] <odie5533> On my machine I have my main user. So if I make a key in ~/.ssh, I don't have to enter my user's password and I can enter a different password for that key then?
[14:59] <flodine> has anyone used xmobar before
[15:00] <mournkaye> odie5533: Yes - but that key is only used when you SSH from your machine to a remote machine
[15:00] <mournkaye> odie5533: It's not used 'locally' for local logins
[15:00] <nmvictor> The source of such information expalins further, that some Financial analyst behind Canonical walls adviced that with so many users already hooked to ubuntu, it is only wise to go comercial and make money to fully support the software and also create jobs, you know that GPL under which ubuntu is released does not prohibit taht
[15:00] <mournkaye> odie5533: Take a look at http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/
[15:00] <TheFrenchWarrior> http://pastebin.com/JxrD11Yu
[15:00] <TheFrenchWarrior> http://pastebin.com/JxrD11Yu
[15:00] <TheFrenchWarrior> http://pastebin.com/JxrD11Yu
[15:00] <FloodBot3> TheFrenchWarrior: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <uzi> isitrealeased
[15:01] <stodorovic> nmvictor: from a commercial poinrt of view, that kinda makes sense. but I think if they do it too suddenly or too hevily, they will ultimately lose users
[15:01] <nmvictor> so guys, why not revert to windows before the whistle is blown
[15:01]  * ywgx --help
[15:02] <mournkaye> odie5533: So, for example, when I log into my laptop I need to type a password.  If I then SSH into my server it'll use my key in ~/.ssh and I don't need to type a password again (since I set up my server to accept the key)
[15:02] <tarzeau> nmvictor: i didn't like windows 7 starter
[15:02] <stodorovic> nmvictor: we all run windows anyway. X11 is a windowing framework :)
[15:02] <Matsy> Is there anyone that can help me with my SDCard problem? I actually switched to Linux because WIndows was a total jerk with reading it. ;(
[15:02] <circuitman> geekphreak: r u there
[15:02] <nmvictor> stodorovic: yea, thats why i'll be making a big comeback to #windows before the bell is rang
[15:02] <webteam> hey guys
[15:02] <DeadmanIncJS> is the torrent out yet?
[15:02] <stodorovic> nmvictor: why? just use a different distro
[15:02] <tarzeau> DeadmanIncJS: no
[15:02] <webteam> is 10.04 out yet?
[15:02] <Deadpeoplez> I am on the brink of switching to Ubuntu. Would anyone like to make some points of why I should switch?
[15:02] <tarzeau> webteam: no
[15:03] <odie5533> mournkaye: I'm setting up an sshd on my computer though, I want to then log into it from my laptop. So I don't use the ~/.ssh/ on my host (computer) but instead on my laptop only (client)?
[15:03] <tarzeau> DeadmanIncJS: no
[15:03] <Matsy> Deadpeoplez, don't do it!
[15:03] <mournkaye> Deadpeoplez: It's free.
[15:03] <DeadmanIncJS> umm... it's not Windows
[15:03] <DeadmanIncJS> lol
[15:03] <webteam> tarzeau, hmm any idea whats the story
[15:03] <volksman> Deadpeoplez, cause its a more productive environment
[15:03] <tarzeau> webteam: it's still today
[15:03] <nmvictor> stodorovic: windowing framework, x11 is running on Linux, not the other way round, we run linux, Ok
[15:03] <webteam> lol
[15:03] <Matsy> Deadpeoplez, if you're doing it for the money, I'll even supply a free key for you ;(
[15:03] <Deadpeoplez> :P
[15:03] <rest> hi to everyone )
[15:03] <stodorovic> nmvictor: yes I know. what about it?
[15:03] <volksman> nfs issue if someone can peek:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/424618/
[15:03] <MikeChelen> Deadpeoplez: what is important to you about an OS?
[15:03] <mournkaye> odie5533: that's correct!
[15:03] <rest> who can halp with cranchbang?
[15:04] <Deadpeoplez> MikeChelen, that is just works.
[15:04] <Deadpeoplez> without problems
[15:04] <odie5533> mournkaye: how will my host know about my login key though?
[15:04] <nmvictor> stodorovic: you said we run windows which scared the shit out of me
[15:04] <rest> *help )
[15:04] <rest> 0_J
[15:04] <MikeChelen> rest: #crunchbang
[15:04] <DeadmanIncJS> Deadpeoplez... try Ubuntu from a LIVE CD.  you will like it, trust us
[15:04] <mournkaye> odie5533: ...well, it's half-correct ;-) on your host 'server' you need an entry in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[15:04] <nmvictor> stodorovic: I HATE WINDOWS for all I care
[15:04] <taj> join #ubuntu-translators
[15:04] <stodorovic> nmvictor: oh my mistake. it seemed to me that you were talkinga bout ms windows :P
[15:04] <gartral1> hey all, is it possible to tunnel irssi through a proxy?
[15:04] <rest> MikeChelen> yes
[15:04] <DeadmanIncJS> please understand though, that it will run slow(er) because its loading from the CD and not the hard drive
[15:04] <Deadpeoplez> Alright I will give it a try DeadmanIncJS
[15:04] <MikeChelen> odie5533: ssh-copy-id can help you set it up initially
[15:04] <Matsy> This is the issue I am having: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424620/, does anyone know how to resolve this?
[15:04] <KIAaze_> minimum ETA 00:00 UTC?
[15:04] <odie5533> mournkaye: is that only the public key though? won't my host need a private one too?
[15:05] <Taliesin`> is there a whats new in 10.04 page on ubuntu.com ?
[15:05] <mournkaye> odie5533: nope
[15:05] <Matsy> Deadpeoplez, don't do it, I tell you ;(
[15:05] <Matsy> Linux is evil.
[15:05] <odie5533> mournkaye: or does my client have the private one and the host have the public?
[15:05] <nmvictor> stodorovic: its ok, by the way when exactly will Lucid be showing up?
[15:05] <MikeChelen> odie5533: the server should have your public key, and your computer has the private one
[15:05] <Deadpeoplez> Matsy just wondering why are you here then? O.o
[15:05] <DeadmanIncJS> thats why you're here Matsy?
[15:05] <Matsy> Well
[15:05] <k0ala> help with audio
[15:05] <mournkaye> odie5533: The public part goes in $HOST:~/.ssh/authorized_keys, the private part in $CLIENT:~/ssh/id_rsa
[15:05] <DeadmanIncJS> Linux is a little confusing at first
[15:05] <stodorovic> nmvictor: no one knows. do you know how many people asked that same question in the last few hours? i'm getting fed up with people asking..
[15:05] <MikeChelen> Deadpeoplez: ubuntu works on a lot of hardware out of the box, without requiring additional drivers
[15:05] <Matsy> Apparently, Ubuntu seems to be the only OS to even remotely help to fix this problem.
[15:05] <mournkaye> odie5533: what MikeChelen said :)
[15:05] <MgMt> does anyone know if there will be a bump top linux release anytime in the near future?
[15:06] <DeadmanIncJS> overall, it's the same as Windows (but better)
[15:06] <xrfang_> subone: what is a "frugal install"?
[15:06] <azlon> i have a software raid using mdadm. for some reason all of my drives look like this when i do cat /proc/mdstat    sda1[0](S)
[15:06] <azlon> what does the (S) mean?
[15:06] <Matsy> Windows can't even read my SD card, when ubuntu can. So, I still have hope of fixing my SD card.
[15:06] <Matsy> But meh, I have no clue how to do it myself. ;(
[15:06] <futurist> when we can expect lucid lynx?
[15:06] <Hary00> http://www.joebar.ch/puttysc/
[15:06] <wonderworld> U BU N TU !
[15:06] <k0ala> !lucid | futurechimp
[15:06] <Hary00> For your SSH Problem ;-)
[15:06] <k0ala> !lucid | futurist
[15:06] <MikeChelen> MgMt: dunno, is the mac version out yet?
[15:06] <Bert-_> futurist, #ubuntu-release-party
[15:07] <odie5533> mournkaye: How do I disallow regular password logins and only allow key logins?
[15:07] <MgMt> mikechelen yeah, my friend was showing me it, its pretty sweet
[15:07] <WakkaWakka> i mean showing itself
[15:07] <mournkaye> odie5533: On your server host, change /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[15:07] <gartral> hey all, is it possible to tunnel irssi through a proxy?
[15:07] <mournkaye> odie5533: it's pretty self-explanatory
[15:07] <WakkaWakka> remote host closed the connection
[15:07] <dajhorn> Matsy: If it is an SD card, then it is probably burned out.  Copy your data off it and use another.
[15:07] <WakkaWakka> a proxy !
[15:07] <WakkaWakka> the card number ?
[15:07] <WakkaWakka> m pretty much bot inbreeding
[15:07] <FloodBot3> WakkaWakka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <WakkaWakka> brb flood of caps text though opera still wins
[15:07] <Matsy> dajhorn: The SD card is currently one mold old ;(
[15:07] <k0ala> can anyone help me with audio?
[15:07] <WakkaWakka> sd card, then it should be able
[15:08] <Mean_Admin> I can't seem to figure out how to install the lastest Firefox version
[15:08] <WakkaWakka> processes audio last name, i can smell the evil wumpus nearby ! another one of these damn kids jumped in front
[15:08] <Hary00> wait for release
[15:08] <WakkaWakka> doesn, t seem to figure out whats causing it, rebooting seems the only option is
[15:08] <SuperRoach> omg, pastie.org is down!
[15:08] <Mean_Admin> I've downloaded the files but .. I just don't know what to do
[15:08] <WakkaWakka> org while you wait
[15:08] <dsnaike> #ubuntu-release-party
[15:08] <Matsy> dajhorn: I don't really care about the data on it though, but it seems to be the only SD card with such a high capacity on it.
[15:08] <balkierode> on what port ubuntu one is listening?\
[15:08] <sab-> I read about the music store in lucid, anyone know what payment methods there will be?
[15:08] <dajhorn> Matsy:  Try to zero it.  `dd if=/dev/zero of=/mmcblk0`.
[15:09] <gartral> WakkaWakka: yea, i have a droid, and the adb suite lets you host a proxy over usb and i need too figure out why terminal sessions aint listening too gnome-proxy settings
[15:09] <MikeChelen> MgMt: yup it is, but sadly not open source (though the devs are considering it). the gnome (default ubuntu) and kde (kubuntu) desktops are getting very flexible too, might be some way to enable mouse gestures
[15:09] <Matsy> With the ''s?
[15:09] <dajhorn> Matsy: Also note that SDHC (usually larger than 4GB) is not SD.
[15:09] <Matsy> This is SDHC, indeed
[15:09] <MgMt> Mikechelen gnome mouse gestures would make my day
[15:10] <AdvoWork> normally to connect to a share, i do: Places > Connect To Server > Select Windows Share, put in: ServerIP,Folder, Tick Add bookmark and give it a bookmark name. Can i do this automatically, from a script some how?
[15:10] <Matsy> Okay, it's zeroing it right now ;p
[15:10] <odie5533> mournkaye: I think I have it now, thanks for the help!
[15:10] <ejv> !lucid
[15:10] <nmvictor> I think ubuntu needs competition, you know what monopoly does to a componay, Canonical notwithstanding, the fact that ubuntu is the solely incorporated into the minds of all Linux zealots is a true makes them shit around with our moods as they wish, if their was a better free distro[dont mention debian with their Lenny which reminded me of Intrepid] which would make them feel the fear of loosing users, then Lucid would be out ny now
[15:10] <karthikkottapall> quick question: Why do we have to delete the original CD in ubuntu after installing it in virtual box
[15:11] <ejv> sooo
[15:11] <ejv> where is it
[15:11]  * ejv taps foot
[15:11] <geirha> karthikkottapall: You don't, just ejecting it from the vbox is enough.
[15:11] <MikeChelen> MgMt: check out easystroke http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/easystroke/ idk how tightly integrated it is though
[15:11] <subone> xrfang_, unetbootin allows you to either create a usb installer or an installer from your hdd (frugal install)
[15:11] <artistxe> ejv. they changed mind. not going to be for two more weeks ;)
[15:11] <gartral> karthikkottapall: you.. dont, you need to remove it as a bootable device
[15:11] <guglielmo> hi everybody does anyone know when ubuntu 10.04 is due to be released today??
[15:11] <ywgx>  /join #ubuntu-tw
[15:11] <Matsy> dajhorn: Oh, does it need to be unmounted?
[15:12] <mournkaye> odie5533: You're very welcome, good luck!
[15:12] <mournkaye> odie5533: Next you'll want to learn about protecting your keys with a password and using ssh-agent
[15:12] <xrfang_> subone: installer from hdd is *not* same as wubi, but just use the hard disk as installation media, and after installation it is same as a normal cd install, did I understand it correctly?
[15:12] <dajhorn> Matsy: Yes.  If you ran `dd` while it was mounted, then the kernel will be confused.  You may need to `umount -f` it.
[15:12] <Matsy> Okay.
[15:12] <dajhorn> Matsy: Let the dd finish.
[15:13] <mournkaye> odie5533: ...in case they fall into enemy hands
[15:13] <Matsy> I already.. CTRL+C'd it >_>
[15:13] <karthikkottapall> thanks for the replies..... my problem is that after customizing the whole thing, it does not save the settings
[15:13] <Matsy> And unmounted the SD card, and now running it again.
[15:13] <guglielmo> hi everybody does anyone know when ubuntu 10.04 is due to be released today??
[15:13] <elpiratedechron> quick question what's the ftp where you can grab the latest images?
[15:13] <circuitman> guys help me to share files between my host and guest os
[15:13] <Matsy> dajhorn: It is correct that it doesn't show any output during the process, right?
[15:13] <elpiratedechron> I've noticed around release dates the site is laggy and the ftp seems to work out better for me
[15:13] <DarsVaeda1> i fail to install icedtea in 10.04 -> W: Failed to fetch  http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata-java_2010h-1_all.deb
[15:14] <DarsVaeda1> its actually not there
[15:14] <nmvictor> I dont like what karmic did to the the application GDM manager[System>Administration>Login Screen], we cant install custom login screens anymore like we used to in jaunty, isnt that infreenging on the software freedom that Richard stallman advocates for,
[15:14] <xrfang_> elpiratedechron: I would suggest bittorrent
[15:14] <DarsVaeda1> any known workaround?
[15:14] <dajhorn> Matsy:  Yes.  Note that the flag order can sometimes matter.  Don't put the -v switch after the device name.
[15:14] <DeadmanIncJS> the party room is BUSY :(
[15:14] <kuro> cant wait 10.04 to be released
[15:14] <jrib> nmvictor: gdm was rewritten, that feature doesn't exist yet afaik
[15:15] <artistxe> elpiratedechron, when it is released today , torrent is fastest method to download it. ( pass that on ;)
[15:15] <DeadmanIncJS> me either kuro
[15:15] <subone> xrfang_, that is correct, unetbootin allows you to mount an iso file located on some partition on your HDD, and installs a menu item for your bootloader to load it (whether its grub or windows bootloader). In effect it is the same as booting the computer with the livecd inserted in your cd drive. you have to boot into unetbootin when prompted at the windows bootloader menu
[15:15] <dajhorn> Matsy:  A fat format can be slow on a big slow device.  Wait at least a few minutes.
[15:15] <karthikkottapall> help...I am not able to save the settings on ubuntu installed on vbox.....I have to start over again
[15:15] <mleger> hello everyone, does anyone know when will my update manager allow me to update to lucid?
[15:15] <DarsVaeda1> oh its not released yet?
[15:15] <DeadmanIncJS> it will notify you
[15:15] <Matsy> dajhorn: Okay, it's a pretty large disk as well, so it isn't that weird.
[15:15] <DeadmanIncJS> at least it should
[15:15] <rrittenhouse> yeah when is it released? ;)
[15:15] <Pici> !party
[15:15] <cremetorte> hi is anyone able to update to lucid  via   "do-release-upgrade" yet?
[15:15] <Matsy> dajhorn: Lets hope this at least does something. ;p
[15:16] <xrfang_> subone, thank you very much, one final question I am still wondering, during installation of ubuntu, I will re-partition the harddisk, and in turn will erase the installation media unetbootin copied onto hard disk??
[15:16] <nmvictor> jrib: meaning ubuntu users will have to do with what ubuntu developers decide to put in place, which make ubuntu a less Free as in Freedom software, right?
[15:16] <kegusa> The art-people must've gotten sloppy/lazy when they updated the look on the manpages.ubuntu.com site. Really a lens flare on the logo? o.O
[15:16] <aboSamoor> any advices to install an application similar to MS paint ?
[15:16] <dajhorn> Matsy: If this doesn't work, then your next steps could be using `mformat` instead of `mkdosfs`, or putting a partition on the SDHC card.
[15:17] <nmvictor> I said it
[15:17] <circuitman> iam using sun's virtual box and running linux mint helena as guest OS and my Host OS is ubuntu 9.04. i would like to share files between the guest and host OS please help me
[15:17] <Mean_Admin> so, how would  I go upgrading Firefox from 3.5.9 to 3.6.3 ?
[15:17] <DeadmanIncJS> victor, how can u say linux isnt free?
[15:17] <Matsy> dajhorn: mformat works on SDHC cards as well? :D
[15:17] <Zed`> !help
[15:17] <DeadmanIncJS> the code for the program is available anywhere, to anyone
[15:17] <subone> xrfang_, yes, hence, make sure you get it right the first time or you could end up in my situation :p
[15:17] <wilh3m> Waiting for the Final Realease Ubuntu 10.04 LTS....
[15:17] <dajhorn> Matsy: mformat works on any block device in /dev if you have the /etc/mtools.conf entry for it.
[15:18] <xrfang_> subone: you mean, use a separate partition to store the iso / installation files, and do not erase it during installation?
[15:18] <Matsy> dajhorn: Sounds complicated, haha. But I'll see how to use it whenever the zeroing does not work.
[15:18] <bmharsha2010> Ubuntu conducts sessions on IRC channel after every release. Where can I get information about these sessions? Since 10.4 is about to be released.
[15:19] <usr13> Mean_Admin: download 3.6.3 and then sudo apt-get remove firefox and then install 3.6.3
[15:19] <circuitman> help me
[15:19] <Matsy> dajhorn: With a whooping 3MB/s.. this will take a while ;p
[15:19] <Exposure410> hello there
[15:19] <Mean_Admin> usr13: all right, here I go
[15:19] <dajhorn> Matsy:  While you're waiting, run `dmesg` or look at the /var/log/messages file.  If the SDHC card is bad, then you'll see write errors.
[15:20] <Matsy> Eh
[15:20] <nmvictor> I said it ubuntu is going the windows way, windows is bent on snatching freedom from their users, freedom to run their software without fear, one credence i can lend to this claim is that with karmic, you cannot download and install custom GDM themes created by other users, if anyone of you thinks I am wrong, let him be the first to dissaprove me.
[15:20] <Mean_Admin> usr13: when you say 'install firefox' you mean sudo apt-get install firefox  ?
[15:20] <Matsy> There are around a gazillion errors.
[15:20] <subone> xrfang_, that may be a solution, however, remember that unetbootin needs to boot through the bootloader, and if during installation you get to the part where the bootloader is installed and wipes out your unetbootin config you may then not be able to boot into it... idk this is the first time ive used it, just be careful you read everything
[15:20] <jetienne__> q. i just booted 10.04-rc in a VM and it crash all over the places. like when i launch firefox, or when i click on the desktop menu. am i alone in this ? or everybody is experiencing the same ?
[15:20] <rshartz> Does any one know how to prevent "Wireless Network Authentication Required" nm-applet dialog from appearing once the WEP/WPA password was set?
[15:20] <Matsy> dajhorn: There seems to be an error on every possible block/.
[15:20] <Mean_Admin> nmvictor: that sounded Jesus-y
[15:21] <usr13> Mean_Admin: No  do it manually.  See: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html
[15:21] <stodorovic> Matsy: with dd? you can increase block size - bs=4k or bs=128k it might improve performance
[15:21] <dajhorn> Matsy:  Okay, if you're getting zillions of write errors, then you have bad hardware or your computer is using the wrong driver.  Bad hardware is more likely.  Try another card.
[15:21] <xrfang_> subone: when you install ubuntu it will install grub onto the harddisk, so what's wrong with erasing unetbootin's bootloader?
[15:21] <Matsy> dajhorn: I already know the fault is with the card, unfortunately. I was just trying to fix it.
[15:21] <Mean_Admin> usr13: I downloaded the files but they don't interact with the .deb installer, they just sit there in a folder
[15:21] <Kottizen> When does it come? :D
[15:21] <elpiratedechron> circuitman: if you haven't got your answer yet.... you need to set the network adapeter type to Bridged in your v machines settings
[15:22] <stodorovic> nmvictor: who uses GDM nowadays anyway? we use KDM ;)
[15:22] <elpiratedechron> then it will be bridged to your existing network trhough your host os
[15:22] <Kottizen> stodorovic: yey!
[15:22] <Matsy> dajhorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/424625/ that's what I am getting. ;(
[15:22] <stodorovic> :)
[15:22] <elpiratedechron> if it's set to tnat mode it makes a virtual lan inside vbox
[15:22] <dajhorn> Matsy: Yup.  That's a dud card.
[15:22] <respire> sometimes when I put my memory card into my memory card reader it detects it as being write protect, when it isn't. repeatedly removing and re-inserting it eventually makes it recognise it as writable. any ideas?
[15:22] <jetienne__> q. i just booted 10.04-rc in a VM and it crash all over the places. like when i launch firefox, or when i click on the desktop menu. am i alone in this ? or everybody is experiencing the same ?
[15:23] <Matsy> dajhorn: Ah noes :( How unfortunate! I will have to go back to dealextreme / focalprices now ;(
[15:23] <nmvictor> If their aint a way users can claim what they though was best for them, or suggest what could work well with them, then we gonna have to wait after six months and usher in a software which we cant control, a software that controls us, just like windows users
[15:23] <respire> more info: one of my cameras teaches this card the same way so it would look like a problem with the card except another camera i have NEVER thinks its write protected
[15:23] <Matsy> dajhorn: There's no magical 'revive' command for these obviously dead cards? :p
[15:23] <dajhorn> Matsy: You sound like a masochist.  :(
[15:23] <subone> xrfang_, as i said this is my first time using it, im not certain of all of the possible issues that may arise
[15:24] <rshartz> Does any one know how to prevent "Wireless Network Authentication Required" nm-applet dialog from appearing once the WEP/WPA password was set?
[15:24] <dajhorn> Matsy: Not really.  :)
[15:24] <xrfang_> ok, thanks subone, I will now try reboot from the usb disk.. bye for now
[15:24] <BitProcessor> any news on when the new LTS will be available ? Heard that they encountered a serious issue just before release ?
[15:24] <saurus> hello to all
[15:24] <Matsy> dajhorn: A masochist? Why! I am a savior of the broken! Or at least, I was hoping to be ;(
[15:24] <dudeface> its being distributed to the ftps at the moment
[15:25] <dudeface> give the site an hour or so to update
[15:25] <BitProcessor> ah! that's great news dudeface
[15:25] <artistxe> 29 updates just popped up for me. sort of pointless now . . .
[15:25] <stodorovic> 8.10 -> 9.10   --- is it just a case of doing multiple apt-get dist-upgrades?
[15:25] <alanm_> respire: probably a combination of cheap card readers and a slightly crap card.. the reader on the camera that always works is probably just better quality able to read less decent cards
[15:25] <dajhorn> Matsy: Heh.  Even if you do manage to clear the card,  it is likely to fail later.
[15:25] <saurus> Lucid come today?
[15:25] <LzrdKing> are we supporting lucid in here yet?
[15:25] <_ruben> !lucid
[15:25] <usr13> Mean_Admin: download 3.6.3 and do tar xjf firefox-*.tar.bz2  ; sudo mv firefox-3.6.3 /usr/lib ; sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox /usr/bin/
[15:25] <dudeface> it takes time to propegate out to your local ftp
[15:25] <Matsy> dajhorn: Meh, I'll just buy a new one. Last time I'm ever using transcend.
[15:26] <balkierode> ok. byee
[15:26] <balkierode> I dont think lucid will be released today.
[15:26] <Spice`> Anyone know what time Lucid is going to be out?
[15:26] <Mean_Admin> usr13: just moving it to into /usr/lib and linking it is enough ?!
[15:26] <saurus> balkierode, why not today?
[15:26] <mrmojo> hi there
[15:27] <mrmojo> i am trying to set up software raid over ssh
[15:27] <mrmojo> with mdadm
[15:27] <alvaro_> oii
[15:27] <mrmojo> it all works perfectly, but the disks dont load at startup
[15:27] <mrmojo> and i have to manually recreate the array
[15:27] <bmharsha2010>  Ubuntu conducts sessions on IRC channel after every release. Where can I get information about these sessions? Since 10.4 is about to be released.
[15:27] <alvaro_> hii
[15:27] <alvaro_> bon dia
[15:28] <Matsy> dajhorn: Have you ever used microSDHC cards?
[15:28] <saurus> mrmojo... Ubuntu dosn't load the disk?
[15:28] <Kin`Away_> For you why after the change of the pyle of the mother board the computer was gone but the image didn't appear on the monitor. So I pushed reset and now the light of the mother board is opened, the light of loading makes lamp when I try to open the Pc but it does'nt work?
[15:29] <dajhorn> Matsy: Yes.
[15:29] <mrmojo> saurus, no, not at boot
[15:29] <RedNifre_backup> Is there a blog or something where the developers post update messages?
[15:29] <Matsy> dajhorn: What would you recommend what a good brand is, then? :p
[15:29] <mrmojo> RedNifre_backup, take a look at planet.ubuntu.org
[15:29] <Kin`Away_> and it doesn't start
[15:30] <dajhorn> Matsy: I buy retail and pay the premium.  I've gotten counterfeit media too often buying online.
[15:31] <TEpic> Any word on 10.04 final?
[15:31] <Mean_Admin> also, to mess around with some c++, should I install Code::Block or Geany?
[15:31] <fzerorubigd> @ RedNifre_backup  http://release-blog.ubuntu.com/
[15:31] <nmvictor> Some few years  a new version redhat would be waited for, just like we are all waiting for Lucid, right now people have to purchase it and suffers the License restrictions, for a long time , Open suse has been commercial but maintaing a non commercial version anyway, with the remaining distros, ubuntu is most likely the next one to go commercial , Guys we need a way to be able to control ubuntu, as in limit the high authority otherwise, you might wondow 
[15:31] <Phil_FL> mrmojo, http://planet.ubuntu.com/ not .org
[15:31] <oktay> I have a problem with karmic. It's not going away and letting Lucid take over :)
[15:31] <dajhorn> Matsy: Try to find an image of the part that you bought online, usually in the spec sheet of the OEM, and compare it to what you have in hand.
[15:31] <mrmojo> sorry Phil_FL
[15:31] <usr13> Mean_Admin: Depends on you want to run it.
[15:31] <Matsy> dajhorn: I bought this one online? I don't.. quite get your comment? ;(
[15:32] <stodorovic> nmvictor: fedora core?
[15:32] <Mean_Admin> usr13: sorry, can you rephrase that ?
[15:32] <dajhorn> Matsy:  In my experience, dead-on-arrival media is much more likely to be a fake part.  YMMV.
[15:32] <private_meta> iphone + ssh + irssi ftw
[15:32] <aeorun> 6+3
[15:32] <usr13> Mean_Admin: Really, you don't need to uninstall the current version at all, just move firefox-3.6.3 to /usr/lib and then ln -sf /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3 /usr/bin/
[15:32] <arcsky> ubuntu 10.04 out?
[15:32] <Mean_Admin> usr13: all right :)
[15:33] <cmajano> can anybody help? I'm trying to install my webcam but have problems... it's a creative webcam nx ultra, anybody?
[15:33] <dudeface> arcsky: the site should update soon, its being distributed
[15:33] <usr13> Mean_Admin: But you will need to blacklist firefox so that the next upgrade does not change the symlink.
[15:33] <stodorovic> ubottu: help
[15:33] <slice> any update on release
[15:33] <slice> ?
[15:33] <cantoma> hey when is Ubuntu 10.04 Final Release out ?? <----
[15:33] <cantoma> hey when is Ubuntu 10.04 Final Release out ?? <--------
[15:33] <arcsky>  dudeface: thanks is the bug fixed?
[15:33] <RedNifre_backup> cantoma: When there are 2000 people in this channel
[15:33] <Ge5i> cantoma dont spam :(
[15:33] <Matsy> dajhorn: It came with my Android device as supplied by HTC, .. I mean, would they ever send fake cards?
[15:33] <dudeface> i asume so
[15:34] <usr13> Mean_Admin: sudo echo "firefox hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[15:34] <dudeface> it should be in your local ftp shortly
[15:34] <dudeface> or wait for the site
[15:34] <Taliesin`> dudeface: not seeing it on a 5min old mirror sync
[15:34] <gartral>  i have a droid, and the adb suite lets you host a proxy over usb.  i need too figure out why terminal sessions aint listening too gnome-proxy settings
[15:34] <Pici> !party
[15:34] <dajhorn> Matsy: How big is the card?  I thought most OEMs were shipping 2GB or 4GB parts.
[15:35] <Matsy> dajhorn: It's 8GB.
[15:35] <dajhorn> Matsy: That is a sensible size for a bundle.
[15:35] <gartral> dajhorn: Moto Droids in us ship with a 16 gb card
[15:35] <usr13> Mean_Admin: But I suppoose that the next firefox upgrade may be to firefox-3.6.3 anyway, but if you already have it, no need to upgrade...
[15:35] <cantoma> Ge5i, is final release data of Ubuntu considered Spam ?!
[15:35] <shashwatpns> who controls the releases of ubuntu (the time,the date,command of updating the website,thecountdowns etc.)?
[15:36] <remoteCTRL2> what is it with this totem and avant bug, anybody heard of a fix yet?
[15:36] <karlsson> shashwatpns: Canonical Ltd.
[15:36] <Matsy> dajhorn: Meh, it wasn't a bundle, but it did say 8GB SD card on the page where I ordered my phone.
[15:36] <Ge5i> cantoma , no its not, repeating a question is ....
[15:36] <Phil_FL> shashwatpns, the release team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release
[15:36] <subone> Is there anyway while booting from the Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD I can specify that all files to be installed should come from a USB drive inserted rather than the CD without having to boot fromt he USB drive?
[15:36] <Imran-UK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncidentReports/2010-04-29-Late-respin-for-bug-570765
[15:36] <Imran-UK> thats apparantly the cause of the delay
[15:36] <dajhorn> Matsy: Maybe you got an open box.
[15:36] <visof> hello how can i check all harddisks ?
[15:36] <Pici> !party
[15:37] <Pici> visof: for?
[15:37] <cantoma> Ge5i, i was afraid that it would get missed
[15:37] <Ganymede> is 1928 people in this channel usual?
[15:37] <Pici> visof: sudo touch /forcefsck   will force a fsck at next booth
[15:37] <Taliesin`> respin looks complete...
[15:37] <usr13> visof: fsck
[15:37] <visof> Pici the all harddisks on my pc
[15:37] <Phil_FL> Ganymede, no
[15:37] <remoteCTRL2> saubne why would you want to boot from cd but install from usb?
[15:37] <karlsson> Many mirrors already has the images in .dists but there could be a new one coming.
[15:37] <visof> Pici i want to check if i have two harddisks or one or three or whatever ?
[15:38] <visof> Pici df  ?
[15:38] <Pici> visof: sudo fdisk -l
[15:38] <Brimstones> I piss on FEDORA: Mharris and those other loosers. I can code anything containing C and C++, QT and GTK. Any suggestions on where to start coding ?
[15:38] <Espen-_-> So whats going? Where is my Lynx?
[15:38] <remoteCTRL2> oh my...
[15:38] <xomp> ok, is there a way to download torrents from a linode box via command line? I wanna help distribute 10.04 when it arrives and have 100Gb of bandwidth to offer.
[15:38] <dudeface> whats wrong with fedora?
[15:38] <dudeface> we are all a happy foss family
[15:38] <xomp> s/command line/terminal
[15:38] <Pici> Brimstones: This is the Ubuntu support channel, please take programming discussion to ##programming or #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <Astyx> i like fedora
[15:39] <Pici> !ot
[15:39] <Matsy> dajhorn: 8GB microSDHC (klasse 6)  	Transcend Product  	Life Time Warranty
[15:39] <nmvictor> dudeface: yea, and I hope we keep it that way
[15:39] <gartral>  i have a droid, and the adb suite lets you host a proxy over usb.  i need too figure out why terminal sessions aint listening too gnome-proxy settings
[15:39] <Brimstones> dudeface: Loosers not equipped to deal with people and or love for code
[15:39] <Oer> Brimstones, Fedora is nice. if you can code, you know your tools.
[15:39] <Espen-_-> xomp: you want rtorrent/libtorrent
[15:39] <karlsson> xomp: Yes, just install a bittorrent client like Transmission or rtorrent.
[15:39] <Matsy> dajhorn: Means I just checked its serial number on the Transcend site, so apparently, it isn't a wrong card.
[15:39] <Brimstones> Oer: I am the tool master
[15:39] <stodorovic> Brimstones: what can you code?
[15:39] <Brimstones> :)
[15:39] <mournkaye> I think a code-off is in order.
[15:39] <dellph> where can i download the new font of ubuntu?
[15:39] <remoteCTRL2> Pici: nothing you can do dude :D
[15:40] <dudeface> i code for xbmc, you could fix bugs there
[15:40] <xomp> Espen-_-, karlsson thanks, I'll look into that
[15:40] <dudeface> if you want somewhere to start
[15:40] <Espen-_-> xomp: your welcome :)
[15:40] <Brimstones> I submit this text!
[15:40] <stodorovic> dudeface: do i need an xbox?
[15:40] <Brimstones> echo -e "#include <stdio.h>\n int main(void) {\nprintf(\"\\\nI Rule ! ! ! \\\\n\\\\n\"); return 0;\\n}" > foo.c && gcc -Wall foo.c -o Rule && ./Rule
[15:40] <Pici> !ot | Brimstones
[15:40] <dudeface> no, its cross platform now
[15:40] <glennwhipple> when is final release lucid supposed to be available for download
[15:40] <Pici> !party
[15:40] <geekphreak> Brimstones:  stay with the topic plz
[15:40] <dudeface> xbmc.org
[15:40] <Brimstones> Fuck off please BOTS
[15:40] <Pici> glennwhipple, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[15:41] <karlsson> http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ <-- there could still come new images however.
[15:41] <glennwhipple> thanks
[15:41] <Imran-UK> Brimstones, please don't swear here
[15:41] <remoteCTRL2> hehe i knew it
[15:41] <matt32124234> hi Companion-Cube!
[15:41] <matt32124234> it's stdout!
[15:41] <Companion-Cube> :D
[15:41] <Matsy> dajhorn: But, it's like 30 euros to fix it. When a new card is only 22 euros ;(
[15:41] <subone> Can I somehow replace the currently running CD with a USB drive so that the ubuntu install doesnt know the difference? i need to install from the files on the usb drive not the live cd
[15:41] <stodorovic> dudeface: what kind of scm do you use? i might be willing to devote some of my time to fix bugs etc.
[15:42] <progre55> !outyet
[15:42] <progre55> damn
[15:42] <remoteCTRL2> so whats qwith it now is it out or what?
[15:42] <Ganymede> is it...so hard to wait until like apr 30th? then you won't have to ask if it's out yet...or do people have a really urgent need to deploy 10.04 NOW?
[15:42] <xomp> Espen-_-, once I download I can wget the torrent to 10.04 once it's released and then somehow start the torrent from the terminal and it will download/seed?
[15:43]  * matt32124234 is already running Lucid
[15:43] <matt32124234> so no urgency at all
[15:43] <SuperRoach> I just hope the update process from 9.10 is painless ;)
[15:43] <cantoma> any system requirements for ubuntu 10.04 ??? or it will run on my old 486 ???
[15:43] <remoteCTRL2> Ganymede: like it was so different by tomorrow :D
[15:44] <Espen-_-> xomp: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide tells you all you need to know :)
[15:44] <usr13> cantoma: It will run on your old 486 as long as you do not start X
[15:44] <flodine> anyone using xmonad with ubuntu?
[15:44] <qwd> flodine: just ask what you want to know
[15:45] <gartral>  i have a droid, and the adb suite lets you host a proxy over usb.  i need too figure out why terminal sessions aint listening too gnome-proxy settings. sorry for the reposts, pidgin is overloading my proxy and shutting it dfown every few minutes
[15:45] <xomp> Espen-_-, lol I'm afraid I'm a big noob, I'll try and make sense of all that though
[15:45] <cantoma> usr13, and is it possible to install it without starting X?
[15:45] <flodine> im trying to start the program xmobar at the login.
[15:45] <Espen-_-> xomp: when you are in rtorrent just hit backspace and paste the url for the .torrent file :)
[15:45] <remoteCTRL2> has anybody else seen avant doing weird stuff after maximizing totem?
[15:46] <xomp> Espen-_-, ah haha cheers! I need to know how to stop the torrent all together too so I don't go over my cap limit :)
[15:46] <circuitman> help me how to acces host os files on my guest os
[15:46] <geekphreak> cantoma:  like a minimal install you mean?
[15:47] <cantoma> geekphreak, like debian netinstall does
[15:47] <gartral>  i have a droid, and the adb suite lets you host a proxy over usb.  i need too figure out why terminal sessions aint listening too gnome-proxy settings. sorry for the reposts, pidgin is overloading my proxy and shutting it dfown every few minutes
[15:47] <geekphreak> cantoma: yes there is ubuntu version of it too
[15:47] <respire> ok gnomies, how can i make applications start on a specific workspace so firefox always opens on workspace 2 and nautilus on 3
[15:47] <shruggar> can anyone recommend a good command-line tool I can use to connect to an IMAP account and organize incoming mail into directories with some filter rules?
[15:48] <Zed`> shruggar: alpine
[15:48] <nmvictor> Conecting to http://release.ubuntu.com/10.04/*.iso ... [Connection lost:server refused connection due to grub]
[15:48] <Stupefy> Is anyone willing to help me out with this grub error that I got?
[15:49] <Stupefy> Will pay in waffles
[15:49] <Zed`> is 10.04 available?
[15:49] <dudeface> sure is buddy
[15:49] <usr13> cantoma: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[15:49] <Zed`> main web site does not show it
[15:49] <SickPuppy> anyone do the update this morning and have it break the nvidia driver ?
[15:49] <dudeface> it wont for a while
[15:49] <Pici> Zed`, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[15:49] <Mikkiz> Zed` join channel: ubuntu-release-party
[15:50] <Mikkiz> :p
[15:50] <dudeface> i got kicked from ubuntu-release-party, and i am unsure why
[15:50] <remoteCTRL2> haha kk you finally got me
[15:50] <cantoma> usr13, i could use a minimal window manager like window maker
[15:50] <stodorovic> is this a good time to update a machine to 9.10 given that all these impatient people will start hitting the ubuntu servers and mirrors soon ? :(
[15:50] <remoteCTRL2> darn
[15:50] <Xcell> SickPuppy-   did you try reinstalling the drivers  ?
[15:50] <xomp> lol I can find no mention on how someone would actually START rtorrent :3
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> stodorovic:  i would wait  a few days perhaps.
[15:50] <matt32124234> 9.10? No, stodorovic
[15:50] <usr13> cantoma: That is possible, I suppose
[15:50] <xomp> apparently this is general knowldege eh?
[15:50] <SickPuppy> Xcell: no not yet
[15:50] <dudeface> usually you just type rtorrent
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> xomp:  run 'rtorrent' in a terminal
[15:50] <Matsy> stodorovic, I'd suggest migrating to a Windows based OS.
[15:51] <xomp> Dr_Willis, thanks
[15:51] <jbroome> stodorovic: doesn't that make you one of the impatient people?
[15:51] <stodorovic> Dr_Willis: thought so. unfortunately i cant - client wants machine done asap
[15:51] <dudeface> you may to create an rtorrent.rc file in your home folder
[15:51] <stodorovic> jbroome: no since i'm not after lusic. i'm just setting up other bits in opensuse to do a netinstall
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> stodorovic:   then they get to sit through the updates i guess  that it will want.
[15:52] <stodorovic> *lucid
[15:52] <stodorovic> Matsy: what kind of an answer is that?!
[15:52] <matt32124234> hi Xynth
[15:52] <Xynth> hai
[15:52] <Matsy> stodorovic, a good one, if I may say so. ;p
[15:52] <Xynth> uh
[15:52] <Xynth> that's weird
[15:52] <stodorovic> Matsy: no :)
[15:52] <Xynth> I thought I changed that..
[15:52] <Xcell> SickPuppy-  are they the drivers from nvidia site  ?
[15:52] <spenser_> \join #ubuntu-release-party
[15:53] <Matsy> stodorovic, there are no more updates for Windows coming up in the coming days. So, you're pretty much safe there.
[15:53] <uiuiui> hi everyone, am using ubuntu do share internet conenction to many users
[15:53] <uiuiui> is there a way to know how many users are conencted
[15:53] <uiuiui> and who is connected?
[15:53] <SickPuppy> Xcell: yes they are I believe
[15:53] <uiuiui> i would like to be able to figure this out incase i need to block someone
[15:53] <usr13> cantoma: But ubuntu may not be best for the old 486.  It is a boat anchor, but if it has MS Win-3.1.1, it is probably better off where it is.  Ubuntu is a highly advanced OS intended for advanced hardware. A 486 is basically obsolete,  (very old, very obsolete).
[15:53] <tutu360>  VERIFY REGISTER tutu360 520520
[15:53] <Xcell> SickPuppy-  alt+f4  and reinstall them
[15:53] <xomp> Dr_Willis, any idea how to limit upload with rtorrent?
[15:54] <uiuiui> looking at dhcp3 leases gives much more info than what is needed
[15:54] <cantoma> usr13, ;) its dead don't worry
[15:54] <poutine> tutu360, fail
[15:54] <cantoma> usr13, the oldest i have is a PIII
[15:54] <san> bluetooth is disabled how do i enable it? i tried a lot but it is not enabling
[15:54] <BCS-Satori> uiuiui: first ask your question in 1 line..second look into "netstat"
[15:54] <usr13> cantoma: So that was a hypothetical question?
[15:54] <SickPuppy> Xcell: I guess I'll have to read up on installing from the console
[15:54] <sturd> Did anyone get a "symbol: 'grub_puts_' not found" error when testing the Beta/RC's??
[15:54] <san> i installed blueman, kbluetooth but still no effect bluetooth is disabled by system can anyone help me
[15:55] <henchie> Hi! when is the 10.04 gonna be released? I was told it was today? But it seems not...
[15:55] <cantoma> usr13, well PIII would probably not work ok with Gnome
[15:55] <san> 29th april
[15:55] <Xcell> SickPuppy-  the directions are on nvidias site, nice and simple
[15:55]  * Idioteque is getting high high high....
[15:55] <sturd> They're testing a GRUB bugfix at the minute
[15:55] <fisons> How can  I connect and authenticate with IRC from 2 Computers at the same time (with the same identity)? Do i have to create a second identity (<uname>_work, <uname>_home)?
[15:55] <thrope> is there a program to boot linux from inside windows - I have a dual boot machine and need to switch between remotely - from liniux I can change grub default, but from windows (7) I dont know how to boot into linux (can't edit menu.lst from windows)
[15:55] <henchie> san- Well then it is today!
[15:55] <henchie> Nice
[15:56] <san> henchie: srry?
[15:56] <Xcell> SickPuppy-  just make sure you put the drivers in your home folder
[15:56] <dagny_taggart> fisons:  check out irssi and screen
[15:56] <SickPuppy> Xcell: should I remove them before reinsalling ?
[15:56] <BCS-Satori> thrope: vmware or virtualbox?
[15:56] <kirai> HEEEY IM LOOKING YOUR STREAM, no video, just sound whats the problem?
[15:56] <Xcell> no
[15:56] <san> can anyone help me out my bluetooth is disabled its not enabling
[15:56] <usr13> thrope: You might consider running MS Windows from virtualbox
[15:56] <thrope> BCS-Satori: neither - it is a real machine
[15:56] <henchie> San- Sorry, I thought you answered my question
[15:56] <san> any terminal command to enable bluetooth?
[15:56] <fisons> dagny_taggart: using empathy with lucid right now, no way to do this with empathy?
[15:56] <thrope> usr13: yep ... but thats something else... in this case I have a dual boot physical machine and I need to switch remotely
[15:56] <BCS-Satori> thrope: you mean you have a physical partition you want to boot while in windows?
[15:56] <SickPuppy> Xcell: ok, thank you,,I'm off to read at the nvidia site
[15:57] <Xcell> k
[15:57] <dagny_taggart> fisons: don't know sorry, i'm not an empathy user
[15:57] <thrope> i used to be able to do it with windows ext2 driver but i don think it works on 7 with ext4
[15:57] <Xcell> SickPuppy-  use the 195.36.15
[15:57] <thrope> BCS-Satori: a dual boot physical machine... I need to be able to select what it will boot too next time from either linux or windows.... linux is easy - just change grub default... from windows I would like to reboot into linux
[15:57] <usr13> thrope: o
[15:57] <Gesi> when will ubuntu 10.04 be available
[15:58] <mr_lou> Anyone using anyRemote?
[15:58] <Gesi> ?
[15:58] <thrope> BCS-Satori: i thgouth there used to be a program to boot from windows
[15:58] <san> bluetooth doesnt work with usb bluetooth stick please help
[15:58] <Azelphur> !isitoutyet | gesi
[15:58] <kirai> ubuntu 10.04 - POWER TO THE PEOPLES!
[15:58] <SickPuppy> Xcell: yeah I thinkn I was using the 173 version until now
[15:58] <cantoma> who suggested the name Lucid??
[15:58] <Xcell> SickPuppy-  what card
[15:58] <sturd> The names are amazing
[15:59] <sturd> I heart the next one's called Maveric Meercat!
[15:59] <usr13> cantoma: I thought you did...
[15:59] <sturd> Maverick*
[15:59] <Gesi> Azelphur thanks
[15:59] <cantoma> usr13, i missed that day
[15:59] <usr13> o
[15:59] <BCS-Satori> thrope: just to understand...you are in windows and you wish to boot your linux (while windows is running) right?
[15:59] <xomp> Azelphur, get off my #ubuntu
[15:59] <SickPuppy> Xcell: NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[15:59] <Azelphur> xomp: NO U.
[15:59] <SickPuppy> Xcell: thats what lspci returns
[15:59] <Xcell> look for the 173 then, being a fx card
[16:00] <SickPuppy> Xcell: ok will do
[16:00] <Xcell> cool
[16:00] <thrope> BCS-Satori: i dont care... windows will die - I want to reboot into linux (but to be in windows grub will be defaulting to windows)... I thiought there was a program in windows that would boot to linux (and kill your windows session)
[16:00] <azm> Hi. I have problem with sound in media players. Sound works well in browser like last.fm and youtube
[16:00] <hacked_kernel> When Ubuntu 10.04 will be released??
[16:00] <ken_> 29.04
[16:00] <Pici> hacked_kernel, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[16:00] <usr13> thrope: Change grub's boot order before rebooting.
[16:01] <Kin`Away_> do you know where can I find the repositories for this application Practice Spanish Verbs - KV erbos?
[16:01] <uLinux> !7zip
[16:01] <BCS-Satori> thrope: oh you lost your grub boot loader; you only see windows loader now
[16:01] <usr13> thrope: You could have two files and just swich back and forth.
[16:01] <emet> hi
[16:01] <kirai> 8-)
[16:01] <thrope> usr13: yes but cant switch from windows
[16:01] <thrope> BCS-Satori: no, grub works
[16:01] <Ganymede> must be hard getting real technical support here today...
[16:01] <smith> hi i am using xchat how would i connect to another server that isn't listed under the available servers?
[16:01] <thrope> BCS-Satori: i need to be able to reboot from linux to windows and windows to linux remotely
[16:01] <thrope> i think grub boot_once option can do it...
[16:02] <emet> smith, /server <hostname>
[16:02] <thrope> default always to linux then boot_once to windows when I need...
[16:02] <usr13> thrope: Oh yea... well scratch that idea.  Why can't you just run MS Windows from virtualbox?
[16:02] <Mokee269> sigh... 64 bit firefox flash plugin still a problem???
[16:02] <BCS-Satori> thrope: i agree with usr13
[16:02] <emet> Mokee269, it is still alpha
[16:02] <thrope> usr13: a couple of reasons, it would be easier for most stuff
[16:02] <jrib> Mokee269: nope
[16:02] <rahman> Hi, is there a channel for ubuntu server?
[16:03] <azm> sound works in browser but no in media players like vlc, smplayer etc. HALP !
[16:03] <jrib> rahman: hidden away in #ubuntu-server but you can ask here as well
[16:03] <Mokee269> well, I can't play youtube videos and hmmm, when i have tried alternative ways of installing the plugin, it says erro: flash something is virtual
[16:03] <Mokee269> and I can't get videos on web to play , and I wish to watch a tutorial :/
[16:03] <stodorovic> Mokee269: it says that? what's it?
[16:03] <soundboy45> any suggestions for torrent client on ubuntu server?
[16:03] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: 64 bit?
[16:03] <smith> hi i am using xchat how would i connect to another server that isn't listed under the available servers?
[16:03] <Mokee269> yes
[16:03] <emet> smith, /server <hostname>
[16:04] <soundboy45> either 64 or 32 bit
[16:04] <Mokee269> 64 bit 10.04 , and hmm,
[16:04] <Mokee269> I think under 9.10 it was working
[16:04] <emet> smith, /server irc.foobar.com (for example)
[16:04] <Xcell> smith-   go to the network in xchat and add the new server
[16:04] <jrib> soundboy45: bittornado, rtorrent?
[16:04] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: see http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2008/11/25/64-bit-adobe-flash-ubuntu.html
[16:04] <Mokee269> okidokie.. than you BCS-Satori
[16:04] <soundboy45> thank you
[16:05] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: welcome
[16:06] <ianwizard> almost 2k
[16:06] <bscape> hi all, i was wondering if i could get some advice.  i'm going for a relatively minimal system on my laptop, would be it better to go with ubuntu alternate or ubuntu server?
[16:06] <dudeface> xubuntu possibly
[16:07] <dudeface> ubuntu and minimal dont really go together
[16:07] <attempt> server haven't a gui .
[16:08] <doobry> bscape, this system i'm on is installed from the mini iso, and then i just add what i want, its not that hard
[16:09] <inayet> is this the colorado drupal irc?
[16:09] <Mokee269> BCS-Satori, quick question I tried both ways installing plugin (libplayer.so thingy and by downloading via adobes site, .apt package.. so i deleted manually the.so file.. how do I uninstall the apt part when not sure... )
[16:09] <Mokee269> apt-search | grep "flash"
[16:09] <Mokee269> then remove or?
[16:09] <inayet> #drupal-colorado
[16:09] <bscape> doobry: yeah, that's what i've been using as well :)
[16:09] <Mokee269> lool ok apt-search doesnt exist :p
[16:10] <san> usb bluetooth is not working can anyone help me please
[16:10] <RickyG> where is muh Lucid!!
[16:10] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: which apt one did you install
[16:10] <bscape> is there really a difference between mini and alternate?
[16:10] <doobry> bscape, i just have a virtualbox image of the "full thing" to see what i might be missing, and take what i like
[16:10] <|Avi|> when will 10 be out?
[16:10] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: try sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[16:10] <doobry> bscape, i think the only difference is that the mini downloads everything
[16:10] <san> it is really sad i went through many forums usb bluetooths dont work in ubuntu
[16:11] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ETA for Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[16:11] <Mokee269> BCS-Satori, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ then chose
[16:11] <Pici> sh4d3sl4y3r_, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[16:11] <Mokee269> apt for 9.04+
[16:11] <dmlinux> yeah eta damint
[16:11] <san> any ubuntu expert here? please help me usb bluetooth doesnt work
[16:11] <dudeface> 1hr 19min according to the countdown
[16:11] <|Avi|> oh
[16:11] <CaptainLucid> DON'T ASK about release time, because it will be released when its released
[16:11] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> : )
[16:11] <|Avi|> well i only have 11 hours left of downloads for the offpeak of the month
[16:11] <CaptainLucid> NOBODY knows the time
[16:11] <dmlinux> oh that sucks balls
[16:12] <|Avi|> else i cant get it for the whole of next month
[16:12] <CaptainLucid> !language | dmlinux
[16:12] <Mokee269> when i download now it says...l package adobe-flashplugin; is virtual
[16:12] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: looking
[16:12] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> lol @ language
[16:12] <Mokee269> try : oh, that sucks lollipops ;p
[16:12] <|Avi|> stupid optus
[16:12] <dmlinux> sorry :(
[16:12] <stodorovic> Mokee269: lol :D
[16:12] <Mokee269> ;)
[16:12] <RickyG> lol language
[16:12] <RickyG> wtf
[16:12] <benkevan> http://www.freetechie.com/blog/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/ < :D
[16:12] <doobry> Mokee269, you on 64bit?
[16:13] <Mokee269> yes doo
[16:13] <Mokee269>  *
[16:13] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
[16:13] <Mokee269> but i need ot remove first right the one i just tried?
[16:13] <Xpistos> Do we have an eta yet/
[16:13] <stolly> when ?
[16:13] <nukelacity> hey guys does anyone know when ubuntu 10.04 will be finally released? its supposed to be today but its not there
[16:14] <benkevan> nukelacity: It's still today isn't it?
[16:14] <Jackdamiels> I got problems with adding a new wired connection in network manager on ubuntu 9.10. When I add a connection with static IP , J can not see it when I click on toolbar icon, and therefore I cannt connect, plz help
[16:14] <BCS-Satori> nukelacity: join #ubuntu-release-party
[16:14] <stodorovic> yay got TFTP installed and working -- now to QUICKLY install Ubuntu!!
[16:14] <nukelacity> thankivoo very much :)
[16:14] <nmvictor>   nukelacity i hear their is a hitch that was stumpled upon at the 11th hours, so probably no one knows when
[16:14] <Mokee269> yaps... ok BCS-Satori got that one now.. but hmm not sure if the one i just tried got installed you see....  blah
[16:14] <ianwizard> nukelacity: we are all awaiting it, but there was a last minute bug with grub.  the official channel for waiting for it is over at #ubuntu-release-party
[16:14] <boourns> gparted is crashing for me in 10.04 - take a look http://pastebin.com/w27uBKEw - any ideas?
[16:15] <nukelacity> yeah ianwizard i read they fixed it
[16:15] <gnusar> how does an upgrade work? does it keep my applications and drivers or does it vanish everything so that it is equivalent to a fresh install on the partition?
[16:15] <Mokee269> nevermind, I just wonder.. how do i search apt?
[16:15] <stodorovic> gnusar: probably a mixture of the two
[16:15] <Mokee269> (apt-sort say) | grep "adobe"?
[16:15] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: just put the .so in the plugin folder; close and reopen firefox.  You can check to see if it loaded by doing about:plugins in the URL in firefox to see its in that list
[16:16] <OERIAS> someone send me to the the release party IRC
[16:16] <Schmidt_> hi everyone!
[16:16] <Mokee269> BCS-Satori,  sure but it states specifically to uninstall first, so thoguht id like to make sure th eother one is gone before i mmessi tu p but ok ill give it a go
[16:16] <matt3206> hi i am using xchat and i would like to connect to another server not listed in the drop down menu
[16:16] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: it will show up as "Shockware Flash" in about:plugins
[16:16] <greenstayer> hello world
[16:16] <Mikkiz> hello
[16:16] <konrad> upgrad: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004overview
[16:16] <insertyournamehe> hello
[16:16] <Schmidt_> hi
[16:16] <Mokee269> HI
[16:16] <san> can anyone help me? usb bluetooth not working
[16:16] <matt3206> how do i manually set the server that i want to connest to
[16:16] <OERIAS> hey Ubuntu 10.04 is now officially out
[16:16] <matt3206> connect*
[16:16] <gnusar> stodorovic: thats what i figured.. i'll propably just install it myself.. thanks
[16:17] <|Avi|> it is?
[16:17] <insertyournamehe> I need help with squirrelmail, can somebody help with?
[16:17] <Zolomon> quit
[16:17] <Zolomon> woops.
[16:17] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: just remove the old .so in the plugins folder as well as run "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree"
[16:17] <konrad> where it is offical out?
[16:17] <Tha_Druidika> hiho
[16:17] <|Avi|> nah isnt
[16:17] <konrad> on ubuntu.com is nothing
[16:17] <jimbauwens> @san : what ubuntu version are you using?
[16:17] <rahman> Well, need to move our mail server to a new machine. I installed postfix dovecort and libsasl2 to the new machine and copied all config files to new machine ( like /etc/postfix/*) The problem is webmail errors; smtp is not configured. Users can see their mailbox but cant send or recieve any mail. I can telnet localhost 25 and ehlo localhost in old machine with success. But cant do it in new one. The new machine listens 25 port and postfix starts without erro
[16:17] <digitalstimulus> is there a channel for lucid (beta/RC)?
[16:17] <Jackdamiels> I got problems with adding a new wired connection in network manager on ubuntu 9.10. When I add a connection with static IP , J can not see it when I click on toolbar icon, and therefore I cannt connect, plz help
[16:17] <Schmidt_> i have a question! i'm from #ubuntu-ru (sorry for my english =) ) We are waiting for 10.04 LTS . Do you now when?
[16:17] <san> jimbauwens: 9.10 karmic
[16:18] <Mokee269> BCS-Satori, yes the second line was what I was lookoign for
[16:18] <Mokee269> thx
[16:18] <konrad> karmic too
[16:18] <StephenLinux> whats wrong with grub to cause the late release?
[16:18] <stodorovic> anyone else think 'karmic' reminds them of 'garlic' ?
[16:18] <san> anyone please help me usb bluetooth not working i went through many forums and sites but dint got any solution
[16:18] <jimbauwens> @san : does there apear a bluetooth logo in the top panel
[16:18] <phps> boourns: gparted works for me (fully updated, 64bit)
[16:18] <konrad> maybe your bluetooth adapter is not supportet yet
[16:19] <boourns> phps, hmm, thanks.  i'm fully updated 32 bit
[16:19] <StephenLinux> or no module installed?
[16:19] <san> jimbauwens: yes it is running there is a icon but it is disabled and it isnt enabling
[16:19] <Mandrew> anyone here that have good knowledge about SSD:s?
[16:19] <san> i tried everything
[16:19] <konrad> a bit
[16:19] <stodorovic> san: if you tried everything then you would have tried the solution that would have fixed it
[16:19] <OERIAS> can some one send to the release pary?
[16:19] <boourns> can anyone with 32 bit 10.04 try opening gparted and see if it crashes?
[16:19] <DigexP> A littel
[16:19] <Tha_Druidika> when it is ready? ^^
[16:19] <san> installed bluetooth manager ever kbluetooth but still it is disabled
[16:19] <san> there is not solution
[16:19] <san> its a bug
[16:19] <rae> digitalstimulus: official Lucid Lynx channel is #ubuntu+1
[16:20] <Mokee269> hmmm , no still not working :(
[16:20] <san> i went through many forums none had solution
[16:20] <Mokee269> and flash not showing up in plugins
[16:20] <Jackdamiels> what network manager are you using , not the default one?
[16:20] <jimbauwens> san, what is its type number
[16:20] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: where did you put the .so what folder
[16:20] <san> stodorovic: go to ubuntuforums and search for usb bluetooth u will see none is solved thread
[16:20] <digitalstimulus> rae, thanks!
[16:21] <san> jimbauwens: sorry? dint got you
[16:21] <Mokee269> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[16:21] <Simas> hi
[16:21] <jimbauwens> product number, brand
[16:21] <BCS-Satori> mokee269: my libflashplayer.so is in /home/<username>/.mozilla/plugins try putting it there
[16:21] <Mokee269> oki
[16:21] <san> how do i get that info?
[16:21] <stodorovic> san: no. but you need to read the guide on asking sensible questions document by ESR
[16:21] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: not the . (dot) mozilla is a hidden folder
[16:21] <jimbauwens> doesn't it say on the back of the stick?
[16:22] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: note*]
[16:22] <Xpistos> does ubuntu plan to have support in Meerkat for btrfs?
[16:22] <Mokee269> do i put it in extensions or create the oflder plugins?
[16:22] <san> stodorovic: if you want to help then help dont comment m already tired
[16:22] <Undadawg> I, I i'm having trouble setting up my triple boot machine. I have Windows 7 and Mac OSX on two seperatate hard disks and they are dual booting fine with the chameleon bootloader. I just attempted to install ubuntu from liveCD which i downloaded and burned from the ubuntu website. During intallation i the option to "install side by side to windows" and resized the windows partition to make room for Ubuntu(250GB of 1TB), i also selected t
[16:22] <Mokee269> (nvm that
[16:22] <chadi> right now, i Have packages to update in the update manager. I'm on karmic. Are these the lucid updates?
[16:22] <PaperBoy> guys -rwxr-xr-x  is what 750?
[16:22] <stodorovic> san: i am saying most people will not be able to help you unless you can help us better understand your problem.
[16:22] <san> jimbauwens: how do i get the info? of brand and type number
[16:22] <stodorovic> PaperBoy: no. 755
[16:22] <PaperBoy> thank you stodorvic
[16:22] <deuxenun1> buntu-unregged3~3~3~3~3~3~
[16:23] <deuxenun1> helllo
[16:23] <jimbauwens> is the module a usb stick?
[16:23] <deuxenun1> 7
[16:23] <roma> здравствуйте
[16:23] <san> stodorovic: problem is simple usb bluetooth is running, there is a icon on top but it is disabled by system i cant enable it tried a lot
[16:23] <Pici> !ru | roma
[16:23] <sameer-ed85> PaperBoy: rwx is 7 r-x is 5 r-x is 5
[16:23] <PaperBoy> thanks
[16:24] <stodorovic> san: can you poke about and figure out what it's doing?
[16:24] <uLinux> If I uninstall unrar non-free can I install it later if trial days passed?
[16:24] <san> jimbauwens: yes its a usb stick
[16:24] <roma> When leaves new ubuntu?
[16:24] <claytonwalker> Question: I get annoyed by grub. How do I hide it when I start up Ubuntu? Online, it says something about a menu.lst, but I don't seem to have one on my HD.
[16:24] <bentkus> claytonwalker: you want to boot right into ubuntu?
[16:24] <uLinux> If I uninstall unrar non-free can I install it later if trial days passed?
[16:24] <san> stodorovic: sorry?
[16:24] <Xcell> claytonwalker-  hit shift on boot  ?
[16:24] <Mokee269> sigh BCS-Satori didnt work.. and hmm probably because the pacakge nonfree wasnt found... so maybe adobe installed a different named one :/
[16:24] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: if you do not have a plugins folder make one
[16:24] <jimbauwens> if you unplug it, and look on the back, does there say a number
[16:24] <claytonwalker> bentkus: Yes.
[16:24] <Rahula59> hello
[16:24] <odilon> pp
[16:24] <stodorovic> san: you need to investigate and trace what's happening.
[16:24] <twalczak> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[16:24] <bentkus> it might be not the best way, since you cant supply anymore anykind of debug messages
[16:25] <roma> тест
[16:25] <Mokee269> yes I did BCS-Satori.. but also when I get the install missing plugins bar in ff, the list is empty when I click on install
[16:25] <ortsvorsteher> hi, how to install the programm "create a usb startup disk" in ubuntu 8.04
[16:25] <Rahula59> can someone help me on codeblocks ?
[16:25] <san> stodorovic: how
[16:25] <Undadawg> can some1 help me, my chameleon bootloader won't recognize ubuntu
[16:25] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: if "about:plugins" does not show in mozilla then flash isn't installed (manually and apt-get)
[16:25] <bentkus> claytonwalker: if ubuntu fries and you want to somehow start it in debug mode, you wont be able to do that anymore
[16:25] <thevishy> is lucid now official ?
[16:25] <stodorovic> san: the same way all inquisitive minds will investigate. draw diagrams and figure out what calls what, and what happens when someyihng else happens etc.
[16:25] <konrad> use a live CD of ubuntu 9.10 and then under system
[16:26] <claytonwalker> bentkus: That's quite alright, I would just like to know the process.
[16:26] <gpetrakis> i think not yet
[16:26] <Mokee269> i forgot .. what is the search for apt packages so i can grep for adobe?
[16:26] <konrad> no lucid isn't offical out
[16:26] <jimbauwens> san, run 'dmesg | grep bluetooth'
[16:26] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: what is in your "addon's" inside firefox?
[16:26] <macman_> hey all im trying to catch rtmp streams via rtmpdump and opera .. nothing is working .. does anyone else have methods that will work ?
[16:26] <ortsvorsteher> hi, how to install the programm "create a usb startup disk" in ubuntu 8.04
[16:26] <Mokee269> and BCS-Satori, no when i do help -> about, i just get verson no pluygins... if i go to tools -> addons and check plugins no, flash aint installed, so ye the vids dont work
[16:26] <Undadawg> can some1 please pm me, how do i get chameleon bootloader to recognize my ubuntu install (i selected not to install grub bootlaoder during the liveCD install)
[16:26] <uLinux> How do I compress rar in ubuntu?
[16:26] <Mokee269> i got the .so file both in /usr/lib/ and in ~/.moz....
[16:27] <bentkus> claytonwalker: actually i dont know and im interested in that too
[16:27] <gpetrakis> why does 10.04 delay?
[16:27] <bentkus> so im googling with you mate
[16:27] <bentkus> :D
[16:27] <beyondenigma> will lucid be released today?
[16:27] <StephenLinux> @gpetrekis: grub...
[16:27] <konrad> @ortsvorsteher
[16:27] <konrad> why you don't use ubuntu 9.10
[16:27] <konrad> just use a live cd
[16:27] <Mokee269> beyondenigma, its meant to, but prolly by tomorrow for sure.. it comes when it comes ;p
[16:27] <uLinux> How do I compress rar in ubuntu?
[16:27] <gpetrakis> what grub
[16:27] <sturd> 1987 the year i was born!!
[16:27] <hashed_> uLinux: 7zip is a handy tool
[16:27] <bentkus> i believe that you have to got some kind of bootloader
[16:27] <uLinux> stop with off topic pls and help me
[16:28] <konrad> apt-get install rar
[16:28] <StephenLinux> @uLinux: use the rar cli, or use the archive manager
[16:28] <Undadawg> i have the chameleon bootloader and it alreayd boots my windows 7 and mac osx corretly
[16:28] <beyondenigma> i think its due to LTS version
[16:28] <uLinux> hashed_ I have 7zip installed and it doesnt compress to .rar
[16:28] <StephenLinux> LTS just has to work... with bugs they cant release
[16:28] <bentkus> claytonwalker: actually i dont think that its possible to boot without grub or lilo, but you can set the waiting time to 0 or 1
[16:28] <StephenLinux> @uLinux: sudo apt-get install rar
[16:28] <hashed_> uLinux: oh, woops. :)
[16:29] <ykphuah> how many hours before 1004?
[16:29] <gpetrakis> so we have to wait...
[16:29] <uLinux> StephenLinux is that free?
[16:29] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: I'm not sure then you have something messed up go through Synaptic and search flash and see if you have something installed
[16:29] <K99Brain> 2000!!!
[16:29] <panix> can i upgrade fromt the older LTS ?
[16:29] <Mokee269> okidokie
[16:29] <bentkus> claytonwalker: if you install windows one a pc without other OSes, it will install a really really small bootloader aswell, so you cant actually see the bootloader when its booting
[16:29] <StephenLinux> @uLinux: its free, the man rar for its params
[16:29] <claytonwalker> bentkus: What I'm asking is, how do I hide it? I just don't want to see it. I would like Grub to load the first Linux kernal that pops up (which is Ubuntu) and be done with it.
[16:29] <iceroot> panix: yes
[16:30] <gpetrakis> fistly to the next release
[16:30] <RickyG> lol
[16:30] <usr13> panix: What?
[16:30] <Simas> does ubuntu support Radeon 9700 well?
[16:30] <RickyG> noob ops
[16:30] <uLinux> StephenLinux it's shareware i think
[16:30] <uLinux> 0 days
[16:30] <uLinux> 40
[16:30] <gpetrakis> you can only upgrade fro the previous release
[16:30] <digitaloktay> yes Simas with option nomodeset
[16:30] <Idioteque> I heard its out
[16:30] <Liquid-Silence> is ubuntu not supposed to be released yet?
[16:30] <Idioteque> but its not... is it...
[16:30] <Idioteque> :)
[16:31] <panix> how do i change the buttons like they should be ?
[16:31] <bentkus> claytonwalker: are you using the 9.04+?
[16:31] <Tcalp> hey all .. I've instuall ubuntu 'server' w/LAMP  to have a 'test / dev' server on my network
[16:31] <StephenLinux> @uLinux: ive been running it free ages
[16:31] <stodorovic> uhh... ubutnu installer says "Installation step failed" -> failing step = "Select and Install software" on a netboot 9.10 install. Anyone got ideas if this is common, or a network outage issue due to 10.04 ?
[16:31] <claytonwalker> bentkus: Nah, I'm on the 10.04 RC.
[16:31] <Idioteque> people in #ubuntu-release-party have already lost their heads
[16:31] <bentkus> yeah thats grub2, dunno if there will be some pages describing how to deal with that
[16:31] <lungan> When will the 10.04 appear in the update manager?
[16:31] <panix> how tho i change the button the way they should be ?
[16:31] <StephenLinux> @uLinux: thats odd, last time i installed it was free
[16:31] <Undadawg> which channel can i join to get help with multi-booting
[16:32] <uLinux> StephenLinux if i go to software center and search for RAR it says is free but shareware
[16:32] <claytonwalker> bentkus: This is my secondary comp, so I don't mind breaking the OS. At all.
[16:32] <Tcalp> but I'm not really a linux user ,, I'm fairly familiar with how to login as my user via SSH and run commands but my user doesn't have access to the www folder  sudo as root doesn't seem to be helping much
[16:32] <gpetrakis> when it 's out
[16:32] <ortsvorsteher> yes, i want to use 9.10 but i have here an 8.04 installed and i need to create a usb startup disk to install 9.10 64bit konrad
[16:32] <usr13> Undadawg: What do you need?
[16:32] <dudeface> the new site is up, and is looking great
[16:32] <Undadawg> i'm having trouble setting up my triple boot machine. I have Windows 7 and Mac OSX on two seperatate hard disks and they are dual booting fine with the chameleon bootloader. I just attempted to install ubuntu from liveCD which i downloaded and burned from the ubuntu website. During intallation i the option to "install side by side to windows" and resized the windows partition to make room for Ubuntu(250GB of 1TB), i also selected the op
[16:32] <uLinux> !lucid
[16:32] <valpd> any word on the updated release schedule?
[16:32] <konrad> and you are not able to install from a normal cd?
[16:32] <konrad> or just upgrading
[16:33] <uLinux> so much offtopic today
[16:33] <usr13> Undadawg: Yes.. and...?
[16:33] <hashed_> oh yay... release is today?  :D
[16:33] <ortsvorsteher> i have no normal cd konrad
[16:33] <Mokee269> BCS-Satori, SORTED! sorry.. I dont get it
[16:33] <ian_> anybody know how to get the up down part of a scroll pad working??
[16:33] <Riderz> Idioteque
[16:33] <Riderz> there
[16:33] <StephenLinux> @uLinux: id use it for now, ive been using for about 6months without registering
[16:33] <Undadawg> How do i get chameleon to recognize my ubuntu install
[16:33] <lungan> When will Lucid lynx be released if not released today?
[16:33] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: so its working?
[16:33] <Idioteque> Riderz, pm me
[16:33] <Mokee269> I did  mkdir plugins, sudo cp blabla to .mozilla... but just now looked again
[16:33] <stolly> nevah
[16:33] <Mokee269> and the folder was never created somehow??
[16:33] <stolly> muhahaha
[16:33] <StephenLinux> when the fix the bugs, it will release
[16:34] <konrad> just get it: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[16:34] <madrazr> Hello everyone, I have a dell 1458 studio machine with ATI radeon card and Sound is not working on both Karmic and Lucid, can some one help me please?
[16:34] <StephenLinux> they cant force quick release of LTS
[16:34] <gpetrakis> what type of bugs?
[16:34] <StephenLinux> grub issues ive heard
[16:34] <usr13> Undadawg: We do not support chameleon
[16:34] <Mokee269> when i went through gui browser... so makde it again n copied and yes of course it worked! sorry BCS-Satori YES it is working.. but seriously, I created and copied foldeer and file in terminal so dont get how it didnt happen :/
[16:34] <Undadawg> meh
[16:34] <Mokee269> sorry for the extra time due to that (so weird though :/)
[16:34] <sje46> isn't there a channel specifically for Lucid?
[16:34] <nomp> anyone familiar with clamav????
[16:34] <Mokee269> thank BCS-Satori!!!
[16:34] <usr13> unimatrix: Use grub.
[16:35] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: no worries glad it is working; when you want to upgrade your flash just go back to adobe's site and replace the .so file in the plugins folder
[16:35] <LucidOne> !lucid | sje46
[16:35] <ortsvorsteher> konrad, you dont understand. i downloaded 9.10 64 bit and now i need to create a usb startup disk. i have only a usb stick here
[16:35] <mcurrington> How do I upgrade from karmic to lucid? I can't seem to find any options in Update Manager or Software Sources.. On another system I was using it just asked me in the top of my Update Manager.. ?
[16:35] <usr13> Undadawg: Use grub
[16:35] <sje46> thanks, LucidOne
[16:35] <BCS-Satori> Mokee269: gotta jet have a conference downtown to go to. cya
[16:35] <Mokee269> enjoy and thanks again... :)
[16:35] <gpetrakis> it 's not released yet.
[16:36] <ircipimp> hi
[16:36] <konrad> ortsvorsteher: once more... you already have a 9.10 64 bit CD-Version?
[16:36] <StephenLinux> to update to lucide (RC) update-manager -d
[16:36] <wfaulk> any pointers on tracking down performance issues under moderate HD load?
[16:36] <ircipimp> is there some tool like (s)locate, which is able to look for files matching a given md5 checksum?
[16:36] <King_Arthur> Why isn't #ubuntu the trending topic on twitter?
[16:36] <stodorovic> wfaulk: what kernel?
[16:36] <cabaro> mcurrington: sudo update-manager -d      but its still release candidate
[16:36] <wfaulk> response becomes jerky, like it's having trouble handling interrupts
[16:36] <usr13> wfaulk: top
[16:36] <ortsvorsteher> no konrad i downloaded a iso image to my harddrive with ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[16:36] <ircipimp> i've sent a file with an undescriptive name per mail and want to locate the source on my disk
[16:37] <wfaulk> stodorovic: 2.6.32-21-generic
[16:37] <wfaulk> usr13: it's not a cpu issue
[16:37] <stodorovic> wfaulk: what IO elevator and what type of hard drive and what disk controller?
[16:37] <usr13> wfaulk: I didn't say it was...
[16:37] <konrad> ah, now I understand
[16:37] <stodorovic> wfaulk: and what filesystem type?
[16:37] <StephenLinux> anyone use zsh?
[16:37] <RedNifre_backup> it's 2010!
[16:37] <konrad> then you can use unetbootin
[16:37] <konrad> try this http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[16:37] <ortsvorsteher> konrad, i try
[16:37] <wfaulk> usr13: what would you like me to do with top?
[16:38] <usr13> wfaulk: display linux tasks
[16:38] <konrad> what's your problem with unetbootin?
[16:38] <stodorovic> wfaulk: because it sounds similar to https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309
[16:38] <erufu> bonjour
[16:38] <wfaulk> stodorovic: sata drive, looking for controller
[16:38] <cabaro> !french
[16:38] <stodorovic> wfaulk: which i'm not sure is even fixed
[16:38] <wfaulk> stodorovic: don't know what an IO elevator is
[16:39] <erufu> sorry i mean hello ^^
[16:39] <panix> so i dont have any issues with sabayon at the moment so can i socialize with the community ?
[16:39] <restfulAmf> Cant wait to download the stable 10.04
[16:39] <Oer> panix have fun
[16:40] <amosek> whats the date of final lucid release?
[16:40] <StephenLinux> amosek: not said yet
[16:40] <usr13> amosek: We don't know
[16:40] <will`> never
[16:40] <StephenLinux> amosek: bugs witrh grub
[16:40]  * FardadJalili loves linux
[16:40] <Oer> a.t.a. today
[16:40] <will`> it is never coming out
[16:40] <restfulAmf> now in our country cause its 29 but i think europe is behind 1 day
[16:40] <wfaulk> stodorovic: sounds similar at least
[16:40] <dotnetted> hey all - what's the best way to test audio input on a webcam? gstreamer-properties lets me pull up a feed of video input but the sound test isn't working - It does work on various softphone apps I have though, but it doesn't work on gnome-sound-recorder
[16:40] <cabaro> also bugs with intel display drivers
[16:40] <Xcell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:40] <Rahula59> hello, can somebody help me for codeblocks ?
[16:41] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: whjats up?
[16:41] <mermeyes> Hello everyone, Is that true that 3G usb modem can't sniff anything? I have run ettercap and wireshark, and it said that the device doesnt support for sniffing.
[16:41] <StephenLinux> how do you send messages to specific users?
[16:41] <usr13> I wish they would NOT set an exact release date.
[16:41] <ian_> mermyes i have had a similar problem with my wireless card
[16:41] <Rahula59> i get this message while compiling over and over : "Your project seems not to have been build yet do you want to build it now ?"
[16:42] <uLinux> http://www.acetoneteam.org/ Ubuntu download link doesnt work so where can I download acetoneiso?
[16:42] <Rahula59> i use a makefile
[16:42] <konrad> try sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[16:42] <stodorovic> wfaulk: io scheduler. cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler     the one in [] is used
[16:42] <wfaulk> stodorovic: cfq
[16:42] <usr13> They could just say that it will be released when it's ready (some time in April or May... something like that).
[16:42] <mermeyes> ian_ , can you handle it?
[16:42] <dotnetted> mermeyes: google "promiscuous mode <adaptername>"
[16:42] <ian_> mermeys
[16:43] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: have you tried a restart, i know that seems silly but the makefile ends up clogging in codeblock and anjuta sometimes when it cant define files exclusively
[16:43] <timmillwood> usr13: it would be 10.5 if it was in May.
[16:43] <ian_> what do you mean
[16:43] <stodorovic> wfaulk: yeah that seems to be the default for a while
[16:43] <usr13> timmillwood: Why?
[16:43] <wfaulk> Rahula59: nfs filesystem?
[16:43] <Ge5i> how can i start the smtp service from terminal
[16:43] <Ge5i> ?
[16:43] <usr13> timmillwood: o   .... :)
[16:43] <Rahula59> (im on windows :-S)
[16:43] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: is the project on the nfs drive?
[16:43] <Rahula59> ;-)
[16:43] <cabaro> mereyes: are you trying to sniff 3G packets or wifi packets?
[16:43] <timmillwood> usr13: 10 = 2010, 4 = April.
 i love ubuntu so much, I want to take it behind school and make it pregnant
[16:43] <mermeyes> is your problem solved?
[16:44] <Rahula59> yes it is on my hard disk
[16:44] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: oh windows codeblocks?
[16:44] <Rahula59> yes :-(
[16:44] <mermeyes> i want to sniff 3G packets
[16:44] <Rahula59> i could not get help at any other place
[16:44] <usr13> timmillwood: Who cares... Version numbers should be just that... version numbers, not dates.
[16:44] <frybye> Hi I have a pc with win7 on c: amd the docs pics vids etc going onto a D: - if I use the automated parallel install for lucid will this c + d for win7 cause problems??
[16:44] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: asides why lol, have you got 777 perms on the files?
[16:44] <Rahula59> what are 777 perms ?
[16:45] <Doggod> OERIAS, you better believe that
[16:45] <ubuntu__> quick question before I install 10,04, how serious is that grub bug?
[16:45] <stodorovic> rwxrwxrwx
[16:45] <Rahula59> (im a noob ;-) )
, can you help me?
[16:45] <odie5533> I'm running an sshd on my box. My ssh private key has a password but I don't want users to be able to login to regular users with plain passwords, forcing them to use keys. How do I do this if the key also has a password?
[16:45] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: if the files are running on a linux box, the linux host (nfs share) may need to 'grant' perms on the files
[16:45] <circuitman> I'm unable to access host OS files on my Guest OS
[16:45] <Ge5i> how can i start the smtp service from terminal ????????
[16:45] <sam0> ubuntu__: enough serious to delay the release
[16:45] <Doggod> OERIAS, got banned for that :D
[16:45] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: on the linux host, run chmod 777 FILENAME
[16:46] <Rahula59> omg, where do i access the linux host ?
[16:46] <lalalol> !release party
[16:46] <StephenLinux> rahula: if that works, then you have full perms, otherwise, can you compile with the files local on machine
[16:46] <OERIAS> Doggod suppose that Ubuntu is gay? not that I am saying it is
[16:46] <ubuntu__> sam0: Darnit >< I thought I was being clever by downloading the RC today and not having to wait so long, but I really don't want a messed up grub again
[16:46] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: What is the nfs storage box?
[16:46] <Doggod> OERIAS, ubuntu is a FINE LADY
[16:46] <sam0> ubuntu__: be patient ;)
[16:46] <cabaro> mermeyes: if you want to follow your own trafiic, you could try tcpdump
[16:46] <ubuntu__> Is there a way I can update a livedisc before installing it?
[16:46] <Rahula59> my harddisk
[16:46] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: what os / NAS?
[16:46] <Rahula59> i mean it is on my arddisk
[16:46] <Rahula59> windows 7
[16:47] <neurochrome> Has there been an update to the nvidia driver recently?  My box just started acting weird.  The picture no longer fits on screen on my TV, and the fonts look terrible.  Plus the overall picture has gotten worse/brighter.... This is really annoying
[16:47] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: i see, is there any linux involved?
[16:47] <cabaro> 3G packets in the air to sniff is a totally different story, and probably illegal
[16:47] <Koterpillar> Is there any guide for repairing/reinstalling Ubuntu from a... FreeBSD?
[16:47] <Rahula59> yes there is
[16:47] <neurochrome> Plus older kernel now want to start in low graphics mode as the nvidia module fails to load
[16:47] <Rahula59> gcc compiler
[16:47] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: where in the link?
[16:47] <Rahula59> ?
[16:48] <ubuntu__> sam0: Nooo, patience is a virtue.. I can't survive as such a square. But back to my previous question, if I run apt-get update or whatever and install, will it include the grub fix?
[16:48] <san> how much time for the lucid release?
[16:48] <Rahula59> what do you mean by link ?
[16:48] <subone> Is there anyway while booting from the Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD I can specify that all files to be installed should come from a USB drive inserted rather than the CD without having to boot from the USB drive?
[16:48] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: am i right in thinking you are using codeblocks on windows 7, what is running the gcc compiler?
[16:48] <odie5533> My ssh private key is passworded. I want to force users to use keys and not passwords. How do I do this if the key also has a password?
[16:48] <Rahula59> mingw i guess, but i am not sure
[16:48] <alias_neo> is ther a release time for 10.04 yet?
[16:48] <jpds> alias_neo: No.
[16:49] <Rahula59> in fact, i am quite sure
[16:49] <neurochrome> alias_neo, try ubuntu+1?
[16:49] <Pici> alias_neo, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[16:49] <sam0> ubuntu__: I can not answer you that. But if you update when it's relaeses there won't be any problem
[16:49] <StephenLinux> if ssh keys have password, you can disable the normal password login though sshconfig, else you need to use no password keys, which is insecure
[16:49] <aryan> so there will be no delay?
[16:49] <pinnen> is there a way to change the mouse rate i linux ? Per default the mouse rate is forced to 125hz in linux/windows I think
[16:49] <alias_neo> nehochrome : pardon me?
[16:49] <alias_neo> neochrome*
[16:49] <circuitman> help me
[16:49] <StephenLinux> Rahula59: resend the last thing
[16:49] <pinnen> but in windows you can change that
[16:49] <circuitman> I'm unable to access host OS files on my Guest OS
[16:49] <alias_neo> neurochrome**
[16:50] <pinnen> from 125hz to 500/1000hz
[16:50] <Rahula59> i am quite sure the things who runs gcc compiler is mingw
[16:50] <researcher1> is there a software in Ubuntu to develop an advertisement brochure?
[16:50] <pinnen> that makes the response time so much much more better
, i'll check this out
[16:50] <Talva> Bye tlm
[16:50] <neurochrome> alias_neo, you could ask in the lucid channel which is #ubuntu+1 ... or as others have stated check #ubuntu-release-party
[16:50] <alias_neo> thanks
[16:51] <cabaro> circuitman: what host os, what guest os, which virtualization (virtualbox?)
[16:51] <neurochrome> researcher1, scribus and inkscape?
[16:51] <Majid_Al-Dharrab> researcher1: Scribus
, is it possible to use MiTM attack on 3g ?
[16:51] <Majid_Al-Dharrab> or OO.org draw
[16:51] <neurochrome> mermeyes, perhaps the wrong place to ask?!
[16:52] <researcher1> Majid_Al-Dharrab: thanks
[16:52] <circuitman> cabaro: Host OS is ubuntu 9.04 and guest is linux mint helena (gnome) and using suns virtualbox
[16:52] <cabaro> mermeyes: not answering to that, illegal, unless done in lab situation (i guess its not the case)
[16:52] <neurochrome> mermeyes, have you checked the online documetnation for wireshark?
[16:52] <wfaulk> stodorovic: um, my machine's actually swapping far more than I thought it was
[16:52] <stodorovic> wfaulk: do you have loads of ram?
[16:52] <wfaulk> don't know how much is io/interrupt related and how much is just low memory
[16:52] <wfaulk> 4GB
[16:52] <nukelacity> hey guys.. i would like to know if there is anyway to backup my home drive without using a CD or USB stick because i dont have any xD i want to know if i can do this, then upgrade to 10.04 when its released (i cant just use the upgrade command because im on dreamlinux at the moment)
[16:52] <neurochrome> mermeyes, it is almost a guarantee that you are asking for help to break the law... Do it somewhere else please!
[16:53] <circuitman> cabaro: Host OS is ubuntu 9.04 and guest is linux mint helena (gnome) and using suns virtualbox
[16:53] <edwardthefma> ■ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent that is the 32 bit 1 right
[16:53] <cabaro> i dont see there would be any legal reason to sniffing 3G packets in the air, so my help on that issue stops here
[16:53] <Colrol> I'm yansy to get 10.04
[16:53] <san> hey guyz please help me out usb bluetooth showing icon but disabled what do i do
[16:53] <Pici> !party
[16:53] <mermeyes> ok
[16:53] <mermeyes> i'm sorry
[16:53] <kLx-back> Got banned in release party channel, dunno why :(
[16:54] <cabaro> circuitman: easy way would be to install ssh-server on your host machine and then use scp or filezilla
[16:54] <neurochrome> mermeyes, pick your channels on irc wisely.... don't go asking dope questions in the wrong place
[16:54] <neurochrome> kLx-back, wat?#
[16:54] <mermeyes> i got it
[16:54] <mermeyes> thanks
[16:54] <cabaro> circuitman: on host:  sudo apt-get install ssh
[16:54] <aatifh> I have upgrade my machine from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 few days back. Seems modem manager not working. Read hardik post http://hardik.in/2010/04/23/upgrade-ubuntu-9-10-to-ubuntu-10-04-lts-rc-release/
[16:55] <aatifh> Seems that source doesn't exists anymore
[16:55] <circuitman> cabaro:is ssh samba share
[16:55] <cabaro> circuitman: on client test:    ssh username@host-ip-address
[16:55] <canto> I know you people have probably gotten this quesiton 1000 times today, but got any idea when 10.04 is gonna be released?
[16:55] <aatifh> Anyone have any idea about this?
[16:55] <mknarr> o my dear god the ubuntu-release-party channel is soo hard to read it is moving soo fast
[16:55] <cabaro> circuitman: secure shell. since both are linux, i dont see the need for samba
[16:56] <cabaro> circuitman: you can use samba if you like.   sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[16:56] <djzn> canto: 10.04 is already released
[16:56] <Pici> djzn, cabaro: No, its not.
[16:56] <DigexP> Does anyone know of a utility that can produce all variations of a word using the various common number/letter/symbol/case substitions?  For example, I feed it noob - and it says "noob, Noob,NOob,NOOb,NOOB,n0ob,N0ob,N00b,...." Etc.
[16:56] <circuitman> cabaro: i tried to share the folder by enabling the share this folder option,it asked to install a package to install
[16:56] <bp0> does the samba4 package replace samba?
[16:56] <canto> it is djzn?
[16:56] <djzn> Pici: yes it is... you have it
[16:56] <canto> lol
[16:56] <djzn> Pici has got it
[16:57] <luismmontielg> so, when will 10.04 be released?
[16:57] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone, where are the VPN info saved ? I which file ?
[16:57] <cabaro> pici http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
[16:57] <Pici> luismmontielg, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[16:57] <canto> so I guess itùs on one of the ftp sites :P
[16:57] <djzn> last release was delayed half day...
[16:57] <cabaro> circuitman: probably missing smbfs.    sudo apt-get install smbfs
[16:57] <djzn> I wonder if it is going to be FURTHER this time
[16:57] <Pici> djzn, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[16:58] <ps-ax> Hi
[16:58] <imagine7xy> Hello
[16:58] <circuitman> cabaro:on the guest side do i need to install anything
[16:58] <DerOetzi> hi just upgraded to 10.4 everything is working fine, but there is one little problem left: compiz is not starting automaticaly
[16:58] <djzn> for one thing a noob knows.... the links are "alive"....
[16:58] <cabaro> dont know about mint exactly, does not hurt to install samba and smbfs
[16:59] <circuitman> cabaro: installed the share service,what nex?
[16:59] <claytonwalker> !outyet
[16:59] <imagine7xy> I just clean installed Ubuntu with an ATI Radeon HD 3450 and the desktop windows and playing videos/etc. are quite laggy with restricted ATI driers -- anyone know how to fix this a bit so its usable?
[16:59] <progre55> !outyet
[16:59] <cabaro> http://someubuntutips.blogspot.com/2009/12/windows-shares-samba.html
[17:00] <stodorovic> goodness me! that channel is so busy
[17:00] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone, where are the VPN info saved ? I which file ?
[17:01] <stodorovic> DjAngo23: depends on which vpn
[17:01] <cabaro> circuitman: on client, open nautilus, then right click folder and choose sharing options (not sure for mint)
[17:01] <gabriel_> nick egc
[17:01] <DjAngo23> pptp
[17:01] <mermeyes> i apologize for my question before. i hope you don't treat me like a criminal.I use wvdial to connect my 3g modem to the internet after i deactived my pin. What optional command should i use in wvdial to enter my pin?
[17:01] <DjAngo23> stodorovic, pptp
[17:01] <cabaro> circuitman: sorry i gotta go now
[17:02] <stodorovic> DjAngo23: no. i dont know the answer. I'm just saying, it depends on the vpn client and you need to check the client's config file and man pages
[17:02] <imagine7xy> CAN somebody tell me why everytime I try to switch to Ubuntu its slow as fuck?
[17:02] <axis> у
[17:02] <imagine7xy> I tried on like 4 different computers
[17:02] <axis> )
[17:02] <imagine7xy> Top of the line hardware
[17:02] <kLx-back> lwhat are pc specs?
[17:02] <DjAngo23> Just need to copy the settings from another compyuter
[17:02] <macman_> trying to use a hp script
[17:02] <Ari-Ugwu> The wait for 10.04 is driving me mad.
[17:02] <DjAngo23> stodorovic, Just need to copy the settings from another compyuter
[17:02] <macman_> do i just do php scriptname.php ?
[17:03] <nimrod10`> imagine7xy, what do you mean by slow ? what exactly is slow ?
[17:03] <stodorovic> DjAngo23: probably depends on  the application that does the pptp management. not sure what that app would be
[17:03] <imagine7xy> This one is not top of the line, but there is no reason it should be so damn slow (ATI Radeon 3450)
[17:03] <imagine7xy> Dragging windows is slow and choppy
[17:03] <imagine7xy> Videos are slow/etc.
[17:03] <DjAngo23> stodorovic, network managemetn
[17:03] <nimrod10`> imagine7xy, that is surely due to poor graphics drivers
[17:04] <stodorovic> imagine7xy: no 3d graphics drivers installed?
[17:04] <nimrod10`> imagine7xy, have you tried the latest graphics drivers ?
[17:04] <JuJuBee> I could use some help... I cannot upgrade my laptop from 9.04 to 9.10 or 10.04.  When I boot live cd for either, my mouse starts in the upper left corner.  As soon as I start moving the mouse (USB connected mouse or trackpad) it jumps  right back to the upper left corner.  What do I do?
[17:04] <FardadJalili> anyone can help me about what should I backup before a clean install of lucid?
[17:04] <stodorovic> imagine7xy: or the general slowness of Ubuntu or Xorg
[17:04] <sam0> imagine7xy: are you using the live cd?
[17:04] <ubuntuusers> hi. im on live UNR-usb. i already installed the UNR onto my laptop with LVM2. i have 2 problems when booting the machine. 1. grub wants to boot the wrong partition (this i can fix) 2. i guess lvm is not installed... is this possible_ how do i fix this?
[17:04] <neurochrome> longer fits on screen on my TV, and the fonts look terrible.  Plus the overall picture has gotten worse/brighter.... This is really annoying
[17:04] <imagine7xy> I just bought this card, I installed via a DVD
[17:04] <imagine7xy> 10.4 RC
[17:04] <manishe_> hello. can you give me link to download 10.04? they release images now or not yet?
[17:05] <imagine7xy> Not live CD
[17:05] <neurochrome> Has there been an update to the nvidia driver recently?  My box just started acting weird.  The picture no longer fits on screen on my TV, and the fonts look terrible.  Plus the overall picture has gotten worse/brighter.... This is really annoying
[17:05] <FardadJalili> !isitout
[17:05] <manishe_> thanks
[17:05] <nimrod10`> imagine7xy, did you enable the hardware drivers ?
[17:05] <imagine7xy> nimrod, yes
[17:05] <sturd> anyone know if they fixed that "grub_puts_" issue, present in the karmic testing releases???
[17:05] <imagine7xy> The Proprietary ATI drivers with their catalyst software
[17:05] <stodorovic> imagine7xy: glxgears and report the frame rate?
[17:05] <cchaparro> somebody has ISO 10.04 yet?
[17:06] <cxo> Can I update-manager -d my 9.10 to 10.04 now?
[17:06] <imagine7xy> I'm new to Linux, so I can't really figure out how to fix this... I never gave Linux a shot for long because its always so slow
[17:06] <gpetrakis> no
[17:06] <imagine7xy> What do I need to do??? What do I need to buy??
[17:06] <circuitman> cabaro:installed the share service but could access the folder from guest os
[17:06] <obiwan_> it isn't still released is it?
[17:06] <obiwan_> i think it's on 31 / 04
[17:07] <stodorovic> imagine7xy: you need to buy more knowledge. seems like your 3d isnt enabled
[17:07] <FardadJalili> obiwan_: not yet
[17:07] <imagine7xy> lol
[17:07] <obiwan_> alright FardadJalili jeje
[17:07] <Pici> obiwan_: There are only 30 days in April... Please await the release in #ubuntu-release-party
[17:07] <imagine7xy> stodorovic, could you link me?
[17:07] <obiwan_> whops hehe i mean :P jeje is in spanish lol xd
[17:07] <stodorovic> imagine7xy: link you to what?
[17:07] <uLinux> !offtopic
[17:07] <Rahula591> bye
[17:07] <Foor> just got in is it out?
[17:07] <obiwan_> Pici: do you mean tonights the night, i got my feeling tonights the night?
[17:08] <obiwan_> Pici: sry too much disco music :S ^^
[17:08] <imagine7xy> stodorovic, is there a way you could show me where to learn this knowledge to fix the problem? Or do I have to guess?
[17:08] <Pici> obiwan_: the release will be sometime on the 29th.
[17:08] <obiwan_> oh yeahhh man that's great
[17:08] <imagine7xy> Take a shot in the dark?
[17:08] <Guest7810> Just wondering if we'll see 10.04 today, or if it's gonna be delayed
[17:08] <imagine7xy> Or am I unworthy?
[17:08] <imagine7xy> Your highness?
[17:08] <Pici> !party
[17:08] <sam0> Guest7810: cd images are being built
[17:08] <gpadrino> hi everone there, looking for some php-mysql issues channel, can anyone tell if theres one out there?
[17:08] <stodorovic> imagine7xy: it took me 10 years to get this kind of knowledge :) if you install glxgears and glxinfo and run them, it will report back to you and give you hints if you have accelerated 3d enabled or not.
[17:09] <Cyc> how di find out if im using 64bit or 32bit?
[17:09] <insertyournamehe> hi i need help with squirrelmail
[17:09] <Guest7810> Thanks Sam, good to know
[17:09] <Guest7810> Any ETA?
[17:09] <JuJuBee> gpadrino: #php #mysql
[17:09] <tonyyarusso> Guest7810: #ubuntu-release-party
[17:09] <Eckonet> Quien habla español?
[17:09] <bp0> Cyc, uname -m
[17:09] <insertyournamehe> I cant login squirrelmail but with mutt using IMAP i can
[17:09] <Pici> !es | Eckonet
[17:09] <sam0> Cyc: uname -m
[17:09] <JuJuBee> Cyc: uname -a
[17:09] <JuJuBee> or that too
[17:10] <circuitman> installed the share service but could not access host os files on my guest os
[17:10] <insertyournamehe> I have a Login/Logout at the same time
[17:10] <circuitman> help me
[17:10] <bp0> does buying ubuntu support get a higher priority for your bug reports?
[17:10] <Cyc> i686 guessing thats 64 bit then
[17:10] <moderndayzero> anyone know how to put the network connections back on the top panel i cant seem to find the same exact application that was originally there
[17:10] <stodorovic> bye everyone. good luck to you all
[17:10] <bp0> Cyc, no
[17:10] <sam0> Cyc: nope
[17:10] <Pici> bp0: You'll need to work that out with Canonical, but likely not.
[17:11] <bp0> when you call ubuntu support does it just speech-to-text/text-to-speech your questions into this channel?
[17:11] <bp0> :)
[17:12] <bp0> that was.. joke
[17:12] <pabelanger> over 9000
[17:12] <circuitman> installed the share service but could not access host os files on my guest os
[17:12] <circuitman> help me
[17:12] <uiuiui> does dhcp3-server check the subnet mask of a client before sending a DHCPACK/DHCPNAK ?
[17:13] <Majid_Al-Dharrab> !outyet
[17:13] <uiuiui> i cant seem to get my subnet to be fixed automatically, it behaves as if it only checks the ip addr
[17:14] <Marttin> Hi
[17:14] <Marttin> wow 1999 users
[17:14] <circuitman> help me
[17:14] <imagine7xy> Could someone help me fix my ATI 3450 drivers to work with Ubuntu??
[17:14] <imagine7xy> It is slow
[17:14] <enan> Excuse me, Do you have some information about new sound cards supported in ubuntu 10.04?
[17:15] <philipp3144> how do i install lvm2 on a existing ubuntu installation on my harddisk from live session?
[17:15] <dp_> is there a way to disable sounds for a theme?
[17:15] <brianherman> enan: #ubuntu+1
[17:15] <brianherman> imagine7xy: what is wrong exactly
[17:15] <sam0> enan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[17:16] <DjAngo23> How to copy a vpn setting used on my laptop (pptp with netwrok-manager from gnome) to another pc ?
[17:16] <minimec> enan: check the alsa package version on packages.ubuntu.com and verify on the alsa Homepage. I guess there you get all information.
[17:16] <anyoneofus> anyone downloaded ubuntu final?
[17:16] <imagine7xy>  brianherman: I installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu, but when I drag windows, etc. It is very choppy and laggy
[17:16] <imagine7xy> It's impossible to work with
[17:16] <brianherman> imagine7xy: did you install the restricted driver for your video card?
[17:16] <imagine7xy> I just bought this video card, from ATI,
[17:17] <sam0> imagine7xy: System / Administration / Hardware Drivers
[17:17] <imagine7xy>  brianherman: Yes, I installed the drivers
[17:17] <imagine7xy>  brianherman: It is still slow
[17:17] <mhall119> imagine7xy: did you enable them and reboot?
[17:17] <imagine7xy>  brianherman: Yes
[17:17] <imagine7xy> mhall199: yes
[17:17] <sam0> imagine7xy: using compiz or metacity ?
[17:17] <imagine7xy> hah
[17:17] <imagine7xy> I am using compiz, but I don't know how to fix this problem with it
[17:17] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: What's your visual effects level set to? System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects
[17:17] <mhall119> check your xorg logs, see if it's got any errors
[17:17] <Besogon> Hello. Is it possible to make working 2 monitors in such way that 1 would be on 1 Desktop place and second on 2 Desktop place?
[17:17] <enan> thanks sam0 & minimec
[17:18] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: None
[17:18] <blackxored> which was the name of the package for running speed tests and selecting the fastest debian/ubuntu mirror?
[17:18] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: Try the middle option :)
[17:18] <thevishy> is Lucid official ?
[17:18] <minimec> enan: np
[17:18] <shizzo> #ubuntu
[17:18] <uLinux> !akonadi
[17:18] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: I have already
[17:18] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: maybe it'll kick-start the driver :s
[17:18] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: Even slower
[17:18] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: bah
[17:18] <uLinux> wtf is akonadi?
[17:18] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: I can NEVER get linux to work properly... thats why I can never use it
[17:19] <san> hey guyz! how much time for 10.04 release!???
[17:19] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: Is there some video card I can BUY to make it work??
[17:19] <uLinux> buy nvidia
[17:19] <claytonwalker> Oh. Hey. What do you know. Grub doesn't automatically show in 10.04.
[17:19] <Xcell> nvidia cards work well
[17:19] <insertyournamehe> No squirrelmail Heros in here?
[17:19] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: you're using 10.04 rc?
[17:19] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: yes
[17:19] <san> how much time for 10.04 release?
[17:19] <than0> san, good question.. some one please answer.
[17:19] <chaoflux> am curious myself lol
[17:19] <irv> claytonwalker: yes it will, once the patched version is released.
[17:20] <wfaulk> are there any video cards these days with good performance that have open drivers?
[17:20] <than0> Do we  normally have 2000 users on this chan?
[17:20] <LucidOne> !lucid | san
[17:21] <claytonwalker> irv: Aww. I like this version. Would I be able to revert it to this behaviour? (When I hold shift on start up to get into the grub ui?)
[17:21] <chr15m> \o/
[17:21] <san> ubottu: ya i know but in sites they are showing release date 29th april 2010
[17:21] <san> thats today
[17:21] <Pici> san: And it will be released some time today.
[17:21] <perlsyntax> ok
[17:21] <EgYPaRaDoX> !lucid lynx
[17:21] <progre55> wow, 2000+ people!
[17:21] <san> Pici: yah! thats what i am asking how much time left?
[17:21] <EgYPaRaDoX> april 29th when exactly?
[17:21] <Pici> san, Lucid will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[17:21] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: I didn't have a lot of luck with the ati driver on 10.04 rc recently, put it down to "that's what I get for using prerelease software"
[17:22] <minimec> wfaulk: I guess ATI would be the choice, as nvidia opensource driver has no 3D, and Intel's are integrated cards. Check that ... http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon
[17:22] <Spear> Any idea when builds of 10.04 will be available to download?
[17:22] <Spear> Its meant to be released but the website hasn't updated...
[17:22] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: then how to I get my Windows 7 working again??
[17:22] <Pici> Spear: Its not released yet.
[17:22] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: never had a problem with old releases though... if you do 'glxinfo' from a terminal, do the first few lines mention ati or 'fglrx'?
[17:22] <progre55> !outyet | Spear
[17:22] <doobry> Spear, hu really no one has even mentioned that today
[17:22] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: after I installed this, I have no boot option to go back to Windows
[17:22] <uLinux> !pt | uLinux
[17:22] <mickster04> isnt it release day today?
[17:23] <isolat3dsh33p> is it out? D:
[17:23] <ilon> mickster04: sure is
[17:23] <progre55> !outyet | mickster04
[17:23] <Majid_Al-Dharrab> !isitout
[17:23] <Spear> doobry: I've only just joined...
[17:23]  * ilon is waiting
[17:23] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: Beats me.  That *was* the reason 10.04 is delayed, though, right? Other OSes not showing up in boot menu?
[17:23] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: again... 'pre-release' software :(
[17:23] <minimec> mickster04: /join #ubuntu-release-party ;) They are all waiting for it to happen...
[17:24] <Pici> !party
[17:24] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: I got a guy telling ME to download 10.4 cause he thinks I'm using the GA release
[17:24] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: maybe wait 24 hours for it to actually finally come out for real
[17:24] <imagine7xy> mournkaye: then I got you telling me to do opposite
[17:24] <doobry> Spear, its in the topic
[17:24] <imagine7xy> mournkaye:  haha
[17:24] <mournkaye> imagine7xy: I said no such thing ;-)
[17:25] <Sushiyant> why ubuntu 10.04 LTS not come
[17:25] <Ge5i> !isitoutyet
[17:25] <anodesni> Let's party in #ubuntu-release-party
[17:25] <Diabloc6t5x7> hi
[17:26] <K_Dallas> Q: Would it be possible to have the new ISO booting from USB keys? I used to use Unetbootin but sometimes, for some distros in particular, it didn't work.
[17:26] <blueoveralls> Good afternoon all
[17:26] <RandyOrt> ugh....
[17:26] <Besogon> Hello. Is it possible to make working 2 monitors in such way that 1 would be on 1 Desktop work place and second on 2 Desktop work place?
[17:26] <humphreybc> O.o
[17:26] <gpadrino> be patien, Sushiyant, it will come... ;)
[17:26] <Diabloc6t5x7> Ubuntu DVD amd64 (20100429)  	1/4
[17:26] <humphreybc> Just a heads up, Lucid is a few minutes away
[17:26] <K_Dallas> humphreybc, thanks
[17:26] <jdenney> any know why I can't click at the very bottom of the gnome panel to maximise an application, there is one or two pixels of padding where the click doesn't register, it's very annoying.!
[17:27] <Sushiyant> gpadrino: when ??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:27] <lg710b> ciao
[17:27] <gpadrino> don't really know :P
[17:27] <mickster04> humphreybc: is it?
[17:27] <humphreybc> mickster04: yes
[17:27] <gpadrino> soon, I hope
[17:27] <humphreybc> within the hour :)
[17:28] <Pingu> can someone plz tell me at what time will the 10.04 be available for download?
[17:28] <stodorovic> over 2000 nicks
[17:28] <uLinux> users
[17:28] <mickster04> !party
[17:28] <mickster04> w00
[17:28] <wildbat> Pingu, in 100083759864 ns
[17:28] <Ge5i> Pingu , we think it will be out within the hour
[17:28] <CrazyDoode> is that coming out today?
[17:28] <Pingu> cool
[17:29] <stodorovic> so no duke3d package in ubuntu/debian?
[17:29] <stodorovic> or do i have to get out gcc and try to hack my way through the source dist
[17:29] <Pingu> A count down banner on the main page would have been cool
[17:29] <Pingu> :-)
[17:29] <simperial> i do not enter a irc channel for years ... I am felling like a teenager again ;)
[17:29]  * humphreybc would join the release party but alas, got banned
[17:30] <stodorovic> humphreybc: why did you get banned?
[17:30] <humphreybc> stodorovic: telling people they should download the daily build
[17:30] <humphreybc> to take load off the server
[17:30] <humphreybc> everyone's whinging coz it's not available yet :P
[17:30] <littlepenguin> http://www.eduke32.com/
[17:30] <littlepenguin> eduke is a port for the normal duke3d
[17:31] <Rigorm0rtis> I'm pretty sure it would be best to just let them download the real torrents when it actually releases.
[17:31] <stodorovic> littlepenguin: i think i saw that the other week but i think there was a problem with it
[17:31] <stodorovic> it seems to be mainly a winpe exe
[17:31] <Majid_Al-Dharrab> 2010 people in the channel!
[17:32] <kannan> any way to combine the output of ls with mv command?
[17:32] <smooph> hi any word on how long till the release ... and I don't want answers like "today" :D
[17:32] <guest3> Hello
[17:32] <littlepenguin> stodorovic i would try but i do not own the originals
[17:32] <Subby> smooph: tomorrow...
[17:32] <erUSUL> kannan: it is better to use find for that kind of job or glob patterns. what are you tryin to do ?
[17:33] <smooph> Subby : funny
[17:33] <wildbat> smooph, the coming future
[17:33] <mournkaye> kannan: try a for-loop: for x in *.jpg; do mv $x dir/; done
[17:33] <littlepenguin> smooph i hate to wait for it..
[17:33] <smooph> kannan : yes
[17:33] <Subby> smooph: but its true...
[17:33] <minimec> Majid_Al-Dharrab: Isn't is amazing. Still this channel is readable, because the others are joining the party channel. Ubuntu people seem to respect eachother... ;)
[17:33] <Rigorm0rtis> no we don't
[17:33] <kannan> erUSUL: mournkaye : smooph : thank you
[17:33] <Deadpeoplez> I'm wondering is there any tool / way to copy a physical harddrive into a vmdk format to be emulated inside a virtual machine? ( I hope it isn't obvious because I don't want to feel like a noob)
[17:33] <schweegi> are you stupid? i just banned in #ubuntu-release-party because of i write that ubuntu is out now because at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/  the RC is not there, only the normal "10.04 LTS" name.
[17:34] <stodorovic> littlepenguin: i have the Atomic Edition CD of it somewhere.
[17:34] <Fillado> same
[17:34] <Subby> schweegi: it can't be there because the found a bug in grub...
[17:34] <Fillado> but i think it was because you have to wait for the "official" announcement
[17:34] <littlepenguin> deadpeoplez VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename <Absolute Path to output File> -rawdisk /dev/sda -register
[17:34] <Rigorm0rtis> schweegi: I still see the RC there.
[17:34] <smooph> Deadpeoplez : there is an import tool as far as i know
[17:34] <minimec> schweegi: Talk to the operator...
[17:35] <agnel> hey it seems some parts release of ubuntu are already out ? such as from here: http://bit.ly/TenFour_x86
[17:35] <muffin2> Hello
[17:35] <stodorovic> http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/04/29/ubuntu-linux-10-04-lucid-lynx/    suggests its been released
[17:35] <Ge5i> !isitout
[17:36] <iniurb> hello
[17:36] <jon604> hello
[17:36] <djbeenie_> hello all, what command in linux to show what services are running? like in gentoo rc-status?
[17:36]  * stodorovic goes to watch the best science fiction TV series on DVD and dinner
[17:36] <swordz> Hi. If my update manager isn't showing the upgrade to 9.10 button yet, should I be worried?
[17:36] <smooph> djbeenie_ : "ps ax"
[17:37] <smooph> swordz : no
[17:37] <stodorovic> smooph: fail
[17:37] <smooph> stodorovic : why?
[17:37] <swordz> OK, I'll wait a bit longer
[17:37] <Miico> Hi, has anybody been able to connect facebook via spotify?
[17:37] <jon604> Hey guys, I'm trying to set a static IP, I have followed many guides and it kinda* works, I'm getting LAN access but not WAN access any ideas why this would occur?
[17:37] <l3dx> Miico: I'm stuck at the "allow access" step
[17:38] <djbeenie_> ps ax..wow thats a nasty output of all the services running
[17:38] <stodorovic> smooph: djbeenie_ wasnt asking about process list. more of a server status list. as in which servers start in whihh run-level
[17:38] <Miico> l3dx: me too:(
[17:38] <littlepenguin> im not sure if updating is a good option..correct me if im wrong but maybe some installed libraries programs and dependecies maybe not available so the self compiled programs also need to be recompiled..i think a new installation is a clean and better thing..dunno im interested what others say..
[17:38] <djbeenie_> stodorovic, whats the correct command sir?
[17:38] <littlepenguin> ps aux
[17:39] <guest> hi
[17:39] <stodorovic> djbeenie_: no idea on ubuntu. i am tempted to go back to gentoo. ps aux does not give the correct info no matter what others say
[17:39] <guest> when ubuntu 10.04 will be available?
[17:39] <littlepenguin> ps aux|grep name only shows the things with "name"in it
[17:39] <djbeenie_> stodorovic, yeah i agree
[17:39] <littlepenguin> @guest today
[17:39] <littlepenguin> :D
[17:40] <littlepenguin> but depends on time
[17:40] <guest> littlepenguin: is there any time schedule?
[17:40] <stodorovic> djbeenie_: i mean, you're not asking for a list of processes. :/
[17:40] <djbeenie_> littlepenguin, have you seen what rc-status does in gentoo?
[17:40] <MrThom> When the 10.04 will be out ?
[17:40] <respire> how can i tell upstart not to run certain services on startup
[17:40] <kenny> hi, how do i upgrade the kernel from karmic to lucid's version ? :)
[17:40] <darolu> MrThom: In 20 hours
[17:40] <littlepenguin> @djbeenie sry i was wrong
[17:40] <kannan> mournkaye : how to include sub-dir.. ?
[17:40] <mournkaye> djbeenie_: try 'service --status-all'
[17:40] <MrThom> now is what time ?
[17:41] <tellaps> lucid is out already?
[17:41] <erUSUL> !isitout
[17:41] <Subby> tellaps: no
[17:41] <MrThom> no
[17:41] <Ziber> !outyet
[17:41] <darolu> !lucid
[17:41] <mournkaye> kannan: don't know, sorry :(
[17:41] <Guest5979> no, i just need a newer kernel, so i can use KMS with my radeon card
[17:41] <DjAngo23> how can i open gnome-netwrok-manager dialog with the command line ?
[17:42] <smooph> kannan : I don't know either but try ls recursive
[17:42] <fate_0x2D> всем привет
[17:42] <jihedamine> djbeenie: maybe this could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127315
[17:42] <kannan> mournkaye: mov *.jpg dir_name will the job easily if all files are in current dir..
[17:42] <Guest5979> anyone familiar with the KMS with a radeon card under Karmic ?
[17:42] <ghoti> So ... I'm trying to figure out which 10.4 RC image I want to download to install onto an Eeepc.  Can the Netbook Edition CD be used to *install*, or just to run as a livecd?
[17:42] <darolu> !rs | fate_0x2D
[17:42] <fate_0x2D> народ, а где можно скачать 10.04
[17:42] <minimec> Guest5979: Well it's running here... ;)
[17:43] <Hackrylix> hello everybody ^^
[17:43] <Hackrylix> Does someone know when Lucid comes ???
[17:43] <mournkaye> kannan: that's an excellent point, the loop is only really useful if you want to rename them as well... sorry :)
[17:43] <darolu> ghoti: I'd wait for the final release, is only hours away
[17:43] <fate_0x2D> when download 10.04?
[17:43] <minimec> Guest5979: what are your problems?
[17:43] <FardadJalili> which one is better?! ex3 or ex4?
[17:43] <Noodels> fate_0x2D, join #ubuntu-release-party
[17:43] <mournkaye> kannan: 'find . -name *.jpg' will get all files recursievely... one sec
[17:43] <Hackrylix> ext4 not debian compatible :(
[17:43] <darolu> FardadJalili: Ext4 is faster and allows you to manage larger files
[17:44] <djbeenie_> jihedamine, hmm that script doesnt work
[17:44] <Guest5979> when i add 'radeon.modeset=1" to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT between the " marks, after the quiet, with a space between them, the login fucks up :)
[17:44] <ghoti> darolu, thanks I'll do that...
[17:44] <Rigorm0rtis> ghoti: "Lucid on Asus EEE PC 901 and 1000H fails to connect to any wireless network" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/545443
[17:44] <Guest5979> basicly i wont have the graphic login, just a terminal login, and i cant log in to the graphic desktop
[17:44] <LucidOne> !language | Guest5979
[17:45] <Rigorm0rtis> ghoti: I'm going to be waiting to install on my EEE PC until that is worked out.
[17:45] <minimec> Guest5979: Can you give me the output line of 'lspci | grep VGA'?
[17:45] <Guest5979> sure, 1 moment
[17:45] <arielh> ubuntu.com is not responding !
[17:45] <tonii> yes it is
[17:45] <tonii> !
[17:45] <sergiu14> it is to me
[17:45] <fate_0x2D> парни, во сколько выйдет 10.04 ???
[17:45] <Rigorm0rtis> People must be hitting refresh too often. :D
[17:45] <Pici> !party
[17:45] <Guest5979> ATI Technologies Inc R420 JI [Radeon X800PRO]
[17:45] <obiwan_> hahaha yeah i bet it doesn't lol, just look at how many people is in the ubuntu party hehe
[17:45] <Pici> !45
[17:45] <Pici> !f5
[17:46] <humphreybc> hahahah!
[17:46] <ghoti> Rigorm0rtis, any idea if that should affect Eeepc 900's as well?  The 900 has a different wifi chipset than the 901...
[17:46] <arielh> is 10.4 not out yet?
[17:46] <Guest5979> since i cant install catalyst 9.3 under catalys, and later ones doesent support my card, im trying KMS (read somewhere it might help )
[17:46] <kannan> smooph: mournkaye : any way to pass output to mv using  pipes?
[17:46] <Pici> !outyet | arielh
[17:46] <obiwan_> kannan: xargs?
[17:46] <darolu> arielh: no, it's not out yet; it will be out when it's ready, wait ~20 hours
[17:46] <Rigorm0rtis> ghoti: Not sure. You might want to try the LiveCD before actually installing.
[17:46] <obiwan_> but i'm too into the release party now hehe
[17:47] <kannan> obiwan_ : i will try that now.. :)
[17:47] <rajmahendra> Yesterday i upgraded my ubuntu from from 9.10 to 10.4 i can see some changs... the top bar logout detail which appearance in right side is displaying in middle also... i am using Ambiance theme in this the close/minimize button must come in right side but its displaying in left side ... see this pics... http://picasaweb.google.com/rajmahendra/UbuntuLinux
[17:47] <ghoti> kannan, xargs or a while loop:   cat file.txt | while read filename; do mv $filename /target/; done
[17:47] <Guest5979> minimec: i have Radeon X800 PRO
[17:47] <fate_0x2D> когда вайдет 10.04 ?????
[17:47] <fate_0x2D> help
[17:47] <minimec> Guest5979: My experiences with karmic and ATI were not that good. There is a ppa https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa for recent driver versions. I also decided to upgrade the kernel via the kernel mainline site.
[17:47] <Pici> !ru | fate_0x2D
[17:47] <fate_0x2D> help me please
[17:48] <minimec> Guest5979: The results afterwords were much better.
[17:48] <fate_0x2D> when download 10.04 ???
[17:48] <rajmahendra> anyone tell me why its behaving differently
[17:48] <mournkaye> kannan: for x in `find . -name '*.jpg'` ; do mv $x woo/; done
[17:48] <minimec> Guest5979: All that stuff is in Ubuntu 10.04 coming today ;)
[17:48] <mournkaye> kannan: I'm sure there's an easier way but that works :D
[17:48] <Guest5979> minimec: i dont understand, what is coming today:?:)
[17:48] <ghoti> kannan: basically, there's a whole lot of ways to skin this cat.
[17:49] <darolu> Starcraft 2?
[17:49] <san> hey cany anyone help me out?
[17:49] <darolu> !ask
[17:49] <san> counter strike 1.6 is not getting started in wine
[17:49] <Pici> !lucid | Guest5979
[17:49] <Subby> fate_0x2D: now
[17:49] <GoodMuppet> Anyone here using gnome-shell
[17:49] <san> and if i start hl.exe it askas for cd key
[17:49] <rajmahendra> my ubuntu 10.4 behaving differently!!
[17:49] <Pici> san: Please ask in #winehq if you are looking for application support under Wine
[17:49] <Guest5979> lol, ive choose the day quite good :)
[17:50] <san> Pici: thanks
[17:50] <darolu> san: did you install with steam?
[17:50] <minimec> Guest5979: There is a new version of ubuntu coming today 10.04 Lucid lynx. If you upgrade your system, your card will respond better. Just wait another day and start your computer. The system will indicate you the upgrade ;)
[17:50] <san> darolu: no its a non steam version
[17:50] <rajmahendra> see this ...  http://picasaweb.google.com/rajmahendra/UbuntuLinux
[17:50] <Guest5979> minimec: thanks for the advice :) ill try it again tomorrow, hope it worksl ol
[17:50] <darolu> san: try installing with Steam, you can add the game to your list using the cd-key
[17:50] <minimec> Guest5979: no problem
[17:50] <darolu> rajmahendra: that is normal
[17:51] <alexkarpenko> hey guys. any idea when the 10.04 downloads will become available?
[17:51] <san> darolu: but i havnt bought the original cs i downloaded it from net
[17:51] <san> darolu: its a non steam version
[17:51] <rajmahendra> darolu, can i change it
[17:51] <darolu> san: well then go and buy it
[17:51] <ghoti> alexkarpenko: a few hours at least
[17:51] <digismack> alexsander: They are available on the main downloads page.. no more -rc- in the filenames.
[17:51] <san> darolu: but y not play non steam version
[17:51] <kannan> ghoti : thank you :)
[17:51] <d-boy80> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[17:51] <alexkarpenko> ghoti: ok. thanks. can't wait :D
[17:51] <d-boy80> champagne!!!
[17:51] <san> darolu: it works good in xp
[17:52] <pepePlu> they banned me from the party err what kinda party is that
[17:52] <ghoti> oh!  The RC warning is off the web page!  Nice!
[17:52] <kannan> mournkaye : yr's for loops is doing the job.. :) yr a for loop expert :D
[17:52] <noir_lord[1]> can confirm, rc has gone from iso name on releases page
[17:52] <darolu> rajmahendra: I don't use beta versions so I don't have Lucid yet, but I suppose it uses metacity as well so press alt+f2 and type "gconf-editor" then navigate to "apps-metacity-general" and change the button layout
[17:52] <kannan> obiwan_:thank you for yr help
[17:52] <Pici> !party
[17:52] <joneskoo> how hard would it be to convert an installation to use dm-crypt for root?
[17:52] <xxxxd> quit
[17:52] <chun_> Wonder if anyone can help -- when I put my laptop to sleep, I get a black screen and lots of hard disk activity, and nothing else happens
[17:53] <alexkarpenko> d-boy80: are those images of the release candidate or final?
[17:53] <san> can anyone help me? cstrike.exe isnt working in wine
[17:53] <Pici> alexkarpenko: Its not out yet.
[17:53] <rizu> I'm still waiting
[17:53] <ahayzen> is this the final release?
[17:53] <ahayzen> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[17:53] <mournkaye> kannan: you're welcome, good luck!
[17:53] <GoodMuppet> final is here
[17:53] <Pici> alexkarpenko: No
[17:53] <me2> This is so frustrating
[17:53] <rizu> Not yet
[17:53] <Pici> san: You need to direct your question to #winehq
[17:53] <obiwan_> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno problem dude kannan ! omg i'm jonesing for lynx haha
[17:53] <alexkarpenko> Pici: ok. just making sure :)
[17:53] <GoodMuppet> yes final available for download
[17:53] <mournkaye> kannan: like I say, I'm sure there's a more elegant way, but I'm all about the brute force approach
[17:53] <noir_lord[1]> ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso is now available on the releases page, I checked 10 mins ago and it was still rc so it looks like its up
[17:53] <obiwan_> kannan: if need more help just ask mate ! byee
[17:54] <GoodMuppet> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:54] <Travis-42> ok, the video on my computer has seemed to freeze up and stop working, but sound is still playing,and I can ssh to the computer. what might be wrong?
[17:54] <san> Pici: there is noone there to listen
[17:54] <san> Pici: noone replies on that channel
[17:54] <pepePlu> can someone put me back in the party? i wont post links i promise
[17:54] <mournkaye> also, gasp! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/
[17:54] <le0> guys, how can i upgrade my 10.04 beta to final release without dl'ing the iso?
[17:54] <Pici> STOP POSTING LINKS, ITS NOT OUT
[17:54] <Piotr_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/ Ubuntu is out
[17:54] <junkbit> realse party is under attack, damn fedora!
[17:55] <usr13> le0: Updates will do
[17:55] <le0> rly?
[17:55] <chun_> Wonder if anyone can help -- when I put my laptop to sleep, I get a black screen and lots of hard disk activity, and nothing else happens. Any suggestions?
[17:55] <respire> this is how im supposed to manage runlevel services in ubuntu? # find . -name 'S55thing' -delete
[17:55] <ghoti> What are Dove and i.MX51?
[17:55] <darolu> san: you can't expect people to give you a cd-key for your game, go buy it, all you need is the cd-key right?
[17:55] <respire> something tells me theres a pretty way to do it right
[17:55] <djbender> ghoti: other architectures
[17:55] <san> le0: To upgrade from Ubuntu 9.10 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '10.04' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.
[17:55] <usr13> respire: You do it by processes
[17:55] <ghoti> oh, they're ARM models.  okay.
[17:56] <Orphamiel> erm hi, i'm confused about commands such as sudo root get-app and etc. where can i get a guide to learn?
[17:56] <le0> thats what i needed - update-manager -d
[17:56] <le0> merci
[17:56] <le0> cheers san
[17:56] <usr13> respire: man update-rc.d
[17:56] <le0> :)
[17:56] <FloodBot1> le0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <respire> usett, lets say i don't want cups running on runlevel 2
[17:56] <respire> i did read that man page
[17:56] <weekly> hey guys, im stuck in a "$" -sh command promp and i want to log out "logout" doesnt work, how do i get out of it?
[17:56] <san> darolu: damn! i dint ask you cd key it should load! first! then wil i get the chance to enter cd key
[17:56] <bastid_raZor> !terminal | Orphamiel follow the guide
[17:56] <mournkaye> weekly: exit?
[17:56] <san> le0: thanx :)
[17:56] <alexkarpenko> Orphamiel: type "man apt-get" to get the manual for that command
[17:56] <weekly> mournkaye thanks!! it worked
[17:56] <respire> usr13, apologies, no i didn't i read the manpage for the invoker :)
[17:57] <sambagirl> what command can i enter to determnie the version of ubuntu i have installed?
[17:57] <darolu> san: oh I see, well the only way I've made it work is via steam
[17:57] <Orphamiel> thank you
[17:57] <bastid_raZor> sambagirl: lsb_release -a
[17:57] <san> darolu: i hav cd key for cstrike but its not working with wine it just doesnt load
[17:57] <sambagirl> thanks
[17:57] <Travis-42> I have a problem with video freezing (and X server going to 100% cpu), while sound and other things keep happening. any idea how to fix this?
[17:57] <respire> is their a GUI sysv startup process manager
[17:58] <respire> so i can point and click things on and off
[17:58] <FFF666> hey, this ubuntu 10.04 is the definitive version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[17:58] <weekly> the /bin/sh is just another BASH type deal right?
[17:58] <Pici> FFF666: No
[17:58] <FFF666> but it doesn't say RC
[17:58] <THRHOPE4LINUX> h
[17:58] <Pici> FFF666: The release manage hasn't given the OK
[17:58] <erUSUL> FFF666: you've been already kicked off the party channel
[17:58] <mournkaye> weekly: it was the original basis for bash from the year 1605, yes - bash without all the features ;-)
[17:58] <sambagirl> i have 8.04 on a server. will there be anyway i can do an update online to the new one coming out tomorrow?
[17:58] <minimec> Travis-42: when does that happen? What card?
[17:58] <FFF666> yes
[17:58] <erUSUL> FFF666: do not push your luck here too
[17:59] <FFF666> for asshole
[17:59] <ghoti> weekly: /bin/sh is bash on linux, but only on linux.  If you're using BASHisms and value portability, make sure you refer to bash by name.
[17:59] <FFF666> no
[17:59] <sambagirl> its a test server i play with.
[17:59] <Aciid> how can I upgrade my kernel to 2.6.33
[17:59] <LucidOne> !language | FFF666
[17:59] <darolu> sambagirl: yes, you will be able to upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04
[17:59] <Aciid> !kernel | aciid
[17:59] <jepler>  ghoti /bin/sh isn't even bash by default on all linuxes (it's not on any recent version of ubuntu)
[17:59] <CountDown> Is the Bitstream Vera Sans font available in Karmic?  I can't find it.
[17:59] <imagine7xy> What is the Ubuntu equivalent to WINDOWS device manager??
[17:59] <Dezine> Sheesh, guess linking official links is a bad idea
[17:59] <sambagirl> darolus i have to wait till tomorrow?
[17:59] <erUSUL> CountDown: use deja vu
[18:00] <nihdez_> @dd
[18:00] <minimec> CountDown: /usr/share/fonts I guess
[18:00] <bastid_raZor> sambagirl: yes, when the release is final check out this link :: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[18:00] <san> lol
[18:00] <CountDown> erUSUL: Thanks, I'll look into it.
[18:00] <ghoti> jepler, my linux-foo may be obsolete.  :)
[18:00] <sambagirl> ok thanks a bunch
[18:00] <erUSUL> imagine7xy: there isn no direct equivalent
[18:00] <ryan-c> Will hardy->lucid dist upgrade work?
[18:00] <humphreybc> ryan-c: in theory
[18:00] <imagine7xy> erUSUL: When I drag a windows it is LAGGY and choppy, how can I fix this??
[18:00] <darolu> sambagirl: it should be out in a matter of hours, but yeah maybe waiting until tomorrow would be the best; I personally will upgrade my 8.04 in ~a week so the servers ain't loaded :p
[18:00] <Dezine> Will upgrading from 10.04 RC to the LTS be safe?
[18:01] <erUSUL> imagine7xy: which graphic card ?
[18:01] <minimec> Dezine: No upgrade needed ;)
[18:01] <erUSUL> !final | Dezine
[18:01] <Dezine> Wait, I meant to said Wubi
[18:01] <PMantis> Yeeeehaw, I'm seeding the i386 desktop iso
[18:01] <imagine7xy> erUSUL: ATI Radeon HD 3450
[18:01] <muffin2> Hi
[18:01] <sjudge> Can I ask a basic question, if you want to run 64 Bit Ubuntu do you have to have an AMD 64 Bit processor or can you run 64 Bit Ubuntu in and Intel 64 Bit processor
[18:01] <erUSUL> !ati | imagine7xy
[18:01] <Dezine> Ok thanks!
[18:01] <erUSUL> sjudge: the later
[18:01] <GoodMuppet> any 64 bit processor
[18:01] <sambagirl> do i have to update to 9.04 first?
[18:02] <imagine7xy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 LE AGP [Radeon HD 3450]
[18:02] <darolu> sjudge: yes you can run it too; amd 64 is just a name for x86_64
[18:02] <sjudge> Thanks for the quick answer
[18:02] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: you can upgrade from 8.04, to the 10.04 final,  however 8.04 may still be better in certain ways
[18:02] <r3m> Hi all, which package i need to display accentued character (french) in a terminal
[18:02] <dssfnsfdg> is it out?!
[18:02] <darolu> sambagirl: from 8.04 you can jump directly to 10.04 without upgrading to 9.XX
[18:02] <sjudge> second quesiton, why is the 64 Bit ISO called AMD64?
[18:02] <mixer_> siema
[18:02] <sambagirl> cool
[18:02] <imagine7xy> erUSUL: !ati | imagine7xy
[18:02] <san> hah
[18:02] <sambagirl> thanks everyone
[18:02] <mixer_> siema
[18:02] <imagine7xy> erUSUL: ????
[18:02] <sebsebseb> sjudge: since AMD made 64bit originalley or  something like that
[18:03] <ryan-c> sjudge: AMD created that insturction set
[18:03] <muscardinus> sjudge: yes
[18:03] <mixer_> siema
[18:03] <erUSUL> imagine7xy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:03] <minimec> sambagirl: If you are not on 8.04, I guess you have to update. I would consider a fresh install as there were so much changes like the filesystem, or the boot manager...
[18:03] <CountDown> erUSUL: Apparently, I already have ttf-dejavu installed.  Do you know which font name I would want to use within LaTeX?
[18:03] <sekmet> because amd came up with the x86-64 bit architecture
[18:03] <r3m> Hi all, which package i need to display accentued character (french) in a terminal
[18:03] <darolu> sjudge: because AMD was the company that gave it name, to gain publicity I guess, but it's just a name
[18:03] <mixer_> siema
[18:03] <DeadmanIncJS> let me guess... its still not out
[18:03] <gourgi> sjudge: why not :-P
[18:03] <mixer_> siema
[18:03] <weekly> ok guys so im having trouble running a .run file to install files needed to run my q3 server, i looked it up and it said to try and emulate it to 32 bit with "linux32" command, but the install still fails, what flags with the "linux32" command could i try?
[18:03] <sambagirl> well i started out with hoary ubuntu version and i used that forever until seveas bugged me to death to upgrade.
[18:03] <sjudge> Ah right, I get it, thanks for your help
[18:03] <mixer_> siema
[18:03] <mixer_> siema
[18:03] <mixer_> siema
[18:03] <FloodBot1> mixer_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <imagine7xy>   *-display
[18:03] <imagine7xy>        description: VGA compatible controller
[18:03] <imagine7xy>        product: RV620 LE AGP [Radeon HD 3450]
[18:03] <imagine7xy>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[18:03] <imagine7xy>        physical id: 0
[18:03] <FloodBot1> imagine7xy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <imagine7xy>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[18:03] <imagine7xy>        version: 00
[18:03] <erUSUL> CountDown: afaik Latex can not use ttf fonts... it has its own set of fonts
[18:03] <sebsebseb> minimec:  sambagirl   no Ext4 file system or Grub 2 boot loader, if upgrading to 10.04 from 8.04, however don't really need those anyway
[18:03] <dssfnsfdg> erUSUL: you can use ttf fonts with it though
[18:04] <THRHOPE4LINUX> im donwloading the official torrent seems to be up
[18:04] <ryan-c> actually, I should probably just reinstall, really.
[18:04] <vicho> is it out already?
[18:04] <Pici> vicho: no
[18:04] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: Could later install Grub 2 yourself, but not much point, plus if something goes wrong, you woudn't be able to boot up Ubuntu possibily.
[18:04] <THRHOPE4LINUX> torrent is
[18:04] <minimec> sebsebseb: I had some speed gain specialy with ext4.
[18:04] <THRHOPE4LINUX> does any1 need torrent link?
[18:04] <r3m> Hi all, which package i need to display accentued character (french) in a terminal
[18:04] <sebsebseb> minimec: indeed at that
[18:05] <THRHOPE4LINUX> came online 10 mins ago
[18:05] <muscardinus> why are the releases out already, but the fron page is not jet updated?
[18:05] <sambagirl> ok
[18:05] <mournkaye> weekly: you might need to install some 32-bit compatability libs, what's the exact problem you're seeing?
[18:05] <Corden> can somebody share the link, just pm me. tnx
[18:05] <FlyFreeBird> please, can someone help me? I have a Acer Aspire One GZ5, I had installed UNR 10.04 and most things work out of the box, except for wireless(Atheros AR5001?) it's recognize the card, but I can't autenticate in my WPA2 personal network, sorry my bad english
[18:05] <Majid_Al-Dharrab> !outyet
[18:05] <Aciid> how can I install 2.6.33 kernel?
[18:05] <THRHOPE4LINUX> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent official torrent
[18:05] <mournkaye> weekly: apt-get install ia32-libs
[18:05] <san> muscardinus: cos they are beta versions not the actual stable version
[18:05] <Corden> tnx
[18:05] <theGman> I just installed 9.10 from a live cd, need to know what the root pass get's set to or how to change it. Doing sudo passwd root wants to change my users password...
[18:05] <darolu> !kernel | Aciid
[18:06] <THRHOPE4LINUX> no root pass use sudo su - to become super user
[18:06] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: Ext4  may speed up boot up and shut down a tiny bit, and speed up the disk check, but other  then that, you probably woudn't notice much advantage.   There is a way to convert Ext3 to Ext4, but should really clean install the operating system if wanting that file system.  Plus give it a year or so and the btfs file system will be stable :)
[18:06] <san> rofl!
[18:06] <ksv___> can someone remove the ban that was set on me in #ubuntu-release-party?
[18:06] <minimec> sebsebseb: What will happen, if we don't need the ext4 'patches' anymore? We will fly away... ;)
[18:06] <darolu> theGman: you don't need root password, use sudo instead; sudo -i will grant you root access
[18:06] <muscardinus> san: thanks
[18:06] <THRHOPE4LINUX> same i was banned for sharing oficial torrent
[18:06] <rldowling03> I am banned on ubuntu-release-party, strange :\
[18:06] <san> muscardinus: :)
[18:06] <qwd> there is no official torrent yet, that's why you were banned
[18:06] <ahayzen> same i was banned too:(
[18:06] <sebsebseb> sambagirl: when it comes to file systems, to make sure you have full support.  clean install the operating system
[18:06] <sambagirl> i know your right sebsebseb
[18:06] <qwd> they said don't link until it's official
[18:06] <darolu> !ot
[18:07] <THRHOPE4LINUX> there is came online 10 mins ago]
[18:07] <Aciid> darolu: couldn't find the 2.6.33 generic image from synaptic... tryed alreaduy
[18:07] <THRHOPE4LINUX> on release server
[18:07] <san> whose ubuntu boot time is less then 10 seconds here!?!?
[18:07] <erUSUL> so you were banned and come here just to dirupt this channel too ;
[18:07] <sebsebseb> minimec: uh?
[18:07] <sambagirl> i'll just do a clen install
[18:07] <daftykins> san: yup
[18:07]  * erUSUL rolls eyes
[18:07] <sambagirl> clean
[18:07] <THRHOPE4LINUX> had 2 peers no in last 5 mins gone to 200 nd 3 seeds this is the real deal
[18:07] <ksv___> qwd: what? http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ <- what's that then?
[18:07] <bastid_raZor> i love when a release happens.. so much drama from the kids
[18:07] <san> daftykins: any tweaks? how?
[18:07] <darolu> Aciid: because there is no 2.6.33 for Karmic; there is a PPA with the 2.6.33 though; gimme a minute and I'll link you
[18:07] <subone> Is it possible to manually copy certain files to my HDD partition to get it to boot, im running off the live cd now, but the install from the live cd fails because of bad cd rom. i have the install files on a usb drive, but cant boot from usb
[18:07] <THRHOPE4LINUX> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:07] <san> how to decrease boot time
[18:07] <daftykins> san: with Lucid on an SSD.
[18:07] <Scunizi> Is there a kde or gtk based PDF tool that will allow annotation of PDF's that will actually imbed and print if you want?  Ocular allows annotation but doesn't print what you add.
[18:07] <weekly> mournkaye: it spits out "This installation doesn't support glibc-2.1 on Linux / unknown"
[18:08] <sambagirl> infact i will just do it on a different hdd and that way i wont lose what i already have.
[18:08] <Corden> just viewed the link and i guess if you look at the date and time it real time
[18:08]  * sebsebseb is enjoying seeing the channel nick number go, up and up and up
[18:08] <darolu> Aciid: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.33/
[18:08] <ksv___> erUSUL: i shut down the client hours ago, i have no idea why i was banned
[18:08] <Aciid> darolu: thanks a bunch <3
[18:08] <san> daftykins: na i prefer karmic lucid's stable version is not yet out
[18:08] <THRHOPE4LINUX> look at the time it is the real deal
[18:08] <darolu> Aciid: np
[18:08] <THRHOPE4LINUX> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:08] <mournkaye> weekly: oh :( dunno then, sorry
[18:08] <FlyFreeBird> please, can someone help me? I have a Acer Aspire One GZ5, I had installed UNR 10.04 and most things work out of the box, except for wireless(Atheros AR5001?) it's recognize the card, but I can't autenticate in my WPA2 personal network, sorry my bad english
[18:08] <erUSUL> THRHOPE4LINUX: stop already
[18:08] <daftykins> san: that's irrelevant, it will be shortly.
[18:08] <weekly> mournkaye: do you know the names of the packages your talking about?
[18:08] <daftykins> san: Karmic on an SSD would still boot very quickly too :)
[18:08] <Mat128> FlyFreeBird: join #ubuntu
[18:08] <san> daftykins: yah i know its soemtime today maybe in few minutes
[18:08] <neopha> hope that the bug is fixed fast
[18:08] <mournkaye> weekly: ia32-libs, but I'm not sure they'll help now :(
[18:08] <minimec> sebsebseb: ext4 has a 60seconds write on disk by default. The problem is, that if you have a system crash and your software is not programmed well, you might loose all your settings and so on. Gnome and KDE software is affected. So they set the wirte settings differently.
[18:09] <__dantheman> FlyFreeBird: you need to use WPA_Supplicant
[18:09] <Corden> by the way if you looking for a really stable relase maybe you wait for about 3 months since more update will come after this release date
[18:09] <usr13> Aciid: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/compiling-linux-kernel-26.html
[18:09] <mickster04> wow, this is the fullest channel i know of
[18:09] <mournkaye> weekly: I'd hassle whoever made your .run file :)
[18:09] <Krow_> hi
[18:10] <usr13> mickster04: I'm pretty sure it is fullest there is...
[18:10] <sebsebseb> minimec: there was some data loss issue when Ext4 was in development, but I think that issue  has been fixed for quite a long while now
[18:10] <CountDown> erUSUL: Turns out I wanted DejaVuSans for LaTeX.  LaTeX will convert the font into something it can use.  Thanks for the pointer to dejavu.
[18:10] <weekly> mournkaye: yeah, ill install that 32bit compatibility file and see what happens, thanks for the great help/suggestions
[18:10] <ray_> hello, a quick question, is ubuntu released yet? I see the old website with Release Cancidate ...
[18:10] <sebsebseb> minimec: Ext4 also became stable in Ubuntu starting with 9.10,  where as in 9.04 not properly stable and optional :)
[18:10] <mournkaye> weekly: good luck!
[18:10] <minimec> sebsebseb: fixed yes, by slowing down the ext4 system ;)
[18:10] <darolu> ray_: go to #ubuntu-release-party :)
[18:10] <qwd> ray_: no go to #ubuntu-release-party and wait there. don't *ask* you'll notice when it's out.
[18:10] <usr13> ray_: We do not know....
[18:10] <ray_> hmmm, ok ... :-)
[18:11] <Corden> the website will be updated after all installers are available for download
[18:11] <lol0r> when someone updates their isos with zsync will they have the same md5 as other media?
[18:11] <erUSUL> CountDown: no problem
[18:11] <darolu> lol0r: if the data is the same, it will have the same md5sum
[18:11] <nilsma> any advice on how to get audio on HDMI (to tv) with karmic? (gts250, audigy2)
[18:11] <melio> On my android
[18:11] <weekly> mournkaye: is there a way to only extract the files out of a .run so i could place them manually instaed of letting the .run do it?
[18:11] <waltercool> whats the difference between ubuntu-i386 vs ubuntu-netbook?? Exist some kernel difference or just apps?
[18:12] <KeithWeisshar> why am i banned from #ubuntu-release-party after connecting via webchat.freenode.net?
[18:12] <lol0r> darolu: oh okay i was just wondering how zsync managed remastering the isos
[18:12] <Daughain> WHats a good app for voice-to-text?
[18:12] <neopha> its okay if it does not come out today as long as it works well :)
[18:12] <Dezine> The notification window shows up awkwardly spaced from the top. Can I get this to show up flush with the top bar?
[18:12] <darolu> waltercool: I think it's just the looks; UNR has an applet to display launchers instead the regular desktop
[18:12] <p0bailey> they are jerks
[18:12] <mournkaye> weekly: well, you could experiment with editing the file (the first 10 lines are likely to be a shell script to unpack the rest of the data) and removing any lines that look like they're *running* anything
[18:12] <theGman> darolu: Ok, but I'm wierd like that. I prefer to do a su -l because I often have to do many commands/operations and I don't want to have to type sudo each time. Besides, IIRC there are some things that can't be done through sudo...
[18:12] <jhardin> I have a question. My sound suddenly stopped working on reboot(doesn't show any devices in menu), and at same time I am unable to mount my windows partition(says access unauthorized). Any idea how I can go about fixing the issues?
[18:13] <waltercool> darolu, oh... thanks, im going to download desktop version instead, thanks =)
[18:13] <UbuntuLily> Hey I there is alot of flooding in the party room, I went to the site and it says "Soon" but I clicked on the download link for RC1 and saw a link for LTS.  So you think its safe to assume this is the right one?
[18:13] <uLinux> banned from the party :(
[18:13] <darolu> theGman: "sudo -i" should give you all you need
[18:13] <nilsma> any advice on how to get audio on HDMI (to tv) with karmic? (gts250, audigy2)
[18:13] <erUSUL> UbuntuLily: no; it s not
[18:13] <Xcell> that room is nuts right now, 2 many children are there.
[18:13] <weekly> mournkaye: i can edit the .run in something like pico, right?
[18:13] <Dezine> It's not safe to use an official page?
[18:13] <darolu> waltercool: if you have a small screen (less than 10") you may want to use UNR though :p
[18:14] <ksv___> nilsma: have you changed audio interface to HDMI? I had to do this to make it work in 9.10 at least.
[18:14] <mournkaye> weekly: yeah probably, those kind of files are usually a few lines of shell script then a big bunch of binary data right beaneath it
[18:14] <nilsma> ksv___: any advice as to how i do that?
[18:14] <mournkaye> weekly: you might be able to get *just* the data and unpack it
[18:14] <waltercool> darolu, nah, im just working with one gnome-panel and small fonts ;)
[18:14] <weekly> mournkaye: awsome, thanks for the help again!
[18:15] <ksv___> nilsma: maybe somewhere in the audio preferences?
[18:15] <nilsma> ksv___: indeed, i can change profiles, but none named hdmi, is it the iec958 option you are referring to?
[18:15] <mournkaye> weekly: good luck!
[18:16] <theGman> darolu: Thx. sudo -i did what I wanted. Thx.
[18:16] <ksv___> nilsma: try some... on my computer there is one named digital stereo (hdmi)
[18:16] <Mandrew> is it even worth to put a INTEL X25-M 2,5" 80GB SSD SATA/300 MLC 34NM into a acer aspire 531h?
[18:16] <nilsma> ksv___: oki thanks, ill try those first then :)
[18:16] <Corden> Downloading the server edition
[18:16] <daftykins> Mandrew: what's the spec of that system? i won't look it up for you :)
[18:16] <teste> :D
[18:16] <Corden> welcome to the world wild cat
[18:17] <monyo> 10.04 LTS is finally here! http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[18:17] <kbar> no
[18:17] <kbar> its not
[18:17] <ksv___> kbar: what's that then?
[18:17] <BiGG_D> So Im sure this question has been asked many times prior to me asking it...   Anyone know when the 10.04 GA build will be available for download?  =)
[18:17] <erUSUL> !party | BiGG_D
[18:17] <Yax> hell !
[18:18] <erUSUL> monyo: pleaee do not do that.
[18:18] <ahayzen> is that the final release?
[18:18] <BiGG_D> Cool deal, Thanks...  =)
[18:18] <ddrj> when i type in "groups" in bash, i see that audio isn't listed, how do i add audio ?
[18:18] <ksv___> nilsma: do that, please tell me if you succeded.
[18:18] <kbar> no
[18:18] <kbar> its not
[18:19] <pepePlu> they all lied to me, they all said change is coming... Obama.. Ubuntu,  but still no change ;(
[18:19] <ahayzen> how do you know
[18:19] <kbar> because
[18:19] <kbar> ubuntu.com
[18:19] <kbar> also
[18:19] <kbar> this channel's topic
[18:19] <K_Dallas> Q: I read that Ubuntu is kind of working or encouraging Adobe. does it mean that we wuold have acrobat beofre the end of 2010 for Ubuntu?
[18:19] <FloodBot2> kbar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <monyo> erUSUL: maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see the "rc" in the file names, so I think these are the final images
[18:19] <Pici> monyo: Its not out.
[18:19] <kbar> what was the link
[18:19] <ahayzen> same
[18:19] <daftykins> K_Dallas: i wouldn't use it even if Adobe released reader for Linux.
[18:19] <dojo> hi guys. thought you may want to know that MIT's mirror has the 10.04 image available
[18:19] <K_Dallas> monyo, it seems that they are still not the final release
[18:20] <erUSUL> monyo: you are just overloading the mirrors and delying the release ...
[18:20] <monyo> Pici: Have you checked the file names? I know, that there is no announcement
[18:20] <darolu> !f5 | dojo
[18:20] <K_Dallas> daftykins, I am taking about the main software not the reader.  Do you have an alternative for that under Linux?
[18:20] <ahayzen> kbar: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[18:20] <Scunizi> monyo: read this.. http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010042901535NWRLUB
[18:20] <teste> Anybody know when it leaves the 10 version of ubuntu?
[18:20] <kbar> oh i do see that but why is it not announced?
[18:20] <dojo> darolu: thanks for making a bot send me garbage
[18:20] <dojo> darolu: my post had nothing to do with refreshing hte homepage
[18:20] <daftykins> K_Dallas: not sure, don't see the need for it myself
[18:20] <Pici> kbar: Because they are not tested and may have bugs
[18:20] <kbar> also, #ubuntu-release-copy has turned into /b/
[18:21] <erUSUL> !f5
[18:21] <kbar> i thought the major one was that grub doesnt recognize dual boot
[18:21] <darolu> dojo: read the "garbage" same principle applies to MIT's servers, don't make them waste resources....
[18:21] <Scunizi> K_Dallas: sure.. openoffice will create pdf forms just fine.. scribus will also
[18:21] <ahayzen> kbar: the testing has finished aswell
[18:21] <usr13> Look guys, this is a very busy channel.  If you have specific ubuntu issues to discuss, get to it, if not, please free up space for those that do.  And keep your comments / questions on one line, do not use Enter for punctuation.  Thank you.
[18:21] <nilsma> ksv___: none of the options seem to make any difference; still not able to get sound (have picture) thru hdmi to tv
[18:21] <mournkaye> teste: when it's no longer 2010 ;-)
[18:21] <WebDawg> !f4
[18:21] <K_Dallas> daftykins, well I work on government documents and they are all fillable PDFs and no other software even under windows has been able to do all I wanted and that is the main deterent for me to switch 100% to linux
[18:21] <WebDawg> !f5
[18:22] <dios_mio> I KEEP PRESSING F5 ON UBUNTU PAGE AND IT IS NOT SHOWING THAT IT IS OUT YET
[18:22] <stoimenov> Hello evrybody !! i have a one simple question - when is come the ubuntu 10.04 final realise :?
[18:22] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, I am mostly talking about filling and saving and not just creating from my own documents
[18:22]  * WebDawg refreshes 1 million times.
[18:22] <mezquitale> usr13, im trying to party here while I wait for the official release, ***thank you***
[18:22] <ksv___> nilsma: weird. then i'm sorry i can't help you!
[18:22] <daftykins> stoimenov: just wait.
[18:22] <FardadJalili> !f5 | dios_mio
[18:22] <WebDawg> I told the ubuntu people to make a torrent link for the BW.
[18:22] <nilsma> ksv___: oki, thanks for the effort mate :)
[18:22] <stoimenov> daftykins, thanks
[18:22] <WebDawg> They dont get it.
[18:22] <JordiC|On_Xbox> whats this channel about then
[18:22] <nilsma> any advice on how to get audio on HDMI (to tv) with karmic? (gts250, audigy2)
[18:22] <dios_mio> WebDawg, BW?
[18:22] <Corden> guys it is good idea to make server edition as a desktop system - will not be use as a server just a regular desktop?
[18:22] <EgYPaRaDoX> !isitout
[18:23] <erUSUL> !ot
[18:23] <essial> wow ubuntu release party channel is going nuts
[18:23] <mezquitale> everytime you refresh your browser you kill like a tree or something like that
[18:23] <darolu> JordiC|On_Xbox: support
[18:23] <acicula> K_Dallas: you can get adobe acrobat vieuwer for linux, not sure if the editor program is available for linux though
[18:23] <martins_> salut
[18:23] <daftykins> Corden: in my personal opinion X (the GUI) doesn't belong on a server install. why would you run server as a desktop? :)
[18:23] <LzrdKing> if canonical didn't want people continually refreshing the site, they should have told everyone at least an approximate time of the release!
[18:23] <Scunizi> K_Dallas: sure.. with Openoffice you can create forms that are tied to a database.. If it's a one off form with no database and you want to save it with the input data intact, then print it as a pdf and the data will imbed..
[18:23] <darolu> salut martins_
[18:23] <WebDawg> Band Width dios_mio
[18:23] <K_Dallas> acicula, it is not. Reader has been on linux for a long time though
[18:23] <WebDawg> SAVE BANDWIDTH
[18:23] <LzrdKing> stupidest thing, to not give even an approximate time
[18:23] <andreligne_> Hello! I've got a USB-speaker that worked fine after fresh install, but then after reboot it won't give a sound away :( anyone who can help me? :)
[18:23] <Corden> iknow daftykins - i will just download them - All i want to to have the 5 years support
[18:23] <LzrdKing> especially with worldwide 47-hour days
[18:23] <endeavormac> does 10.4 dual boot cleanly with windows 7, without any special configuration?
[18:24] <kbar> its 10.04 and yes
[18:24] <mezquitale> LzrdKing, what are you talking about,  April 29 isnt accurate enough for you?
[18:24] <MrKeuner> hi, always keep forgetting, which is the application that integrates gpg support in nautilus (encrypt, sign, decrypt)
[18:24] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, as I explained, I do not create those forms, they are already made by the gov. I use them, fill them and save them.
[18:24] <acicula> K_Dallas: ah , then maybe running it via wine may work
[18:24] <darolu> andreligne_: does it work if you unplug and plug back?
[18:24] <Scunizi> endeavormac: kbar  at least it will after the iso's are respun..
[18:24] <BGL-[t]> there was a last minute bug with dual booting so you might wait on that
[18:24] <andreligne_> darolu: nope :(
[18:24] <K_Dallas> acicula, no success with wine either
[18:24] <Vigo> !dualboot | endeavormac
[18:24] <acicula> K_Dallas: :( windows it is then
[18:24] <K_Dallas> at least not for the latest version
[18:24] <nilsma> any advice on how to get audio on HDMI (to tv) with karmic? (gts250, audigy2)
[18:24] <Corden> i gues gnome-desktop  is about 300mb comapre to 5 years support than 3 year for desktop
[18:24] <BlubbTec> !lucid
[18:24] <acicula> nilsma: using the binary drivers?
[18:24] <K_Dallas> acicula, that is what i hoped to change if ubuntu and adobe work together
[18:24] <stoimenov> daftykins, whether it will be released today
[18:25] <Scunizi> K_Dallas: great.. fill them out and then use the pdf print driver to resave the pdf to a new pdf with the imbedded data
[18:25] <andreligne_> darolu: but if you look in the sound options, you can see that it's sending sound to the speaker, but it just wont play my music :(
[18:25] <Subby> IT IS OUT :)
[18:25] <nilsma> acicula: i believe i am :p
[18:25] <endeavormac> scunizi: after the ISOs are respun?
[18:25] <BlubbTec> when today is lucid gonna be released?
[18:25] <kkdue> hi
[18:25] <mezquitale> hey so anyone else want to party while sober?
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[18:25] <Scunizi> endeavormac: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010042901535NWRLUB
[18:25] <tolecnal> BlubbTec: was released just a minute ago, according to #ubuntu-release-party op's :)
[18:25] <mhall119> BlubbTec: about 30 seconds ago
[18:25] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, well what if you need to modify/change them? Then I have to redo all from the scratch
[18:25] <garland3468> !isitout
[18:25] <Seb__> when is it available for download?
[18:25] <Corden> downloading server edition - 3% and growing
[18:25] <LzrdKing> mezquitale: its april 30th in some places, so NO
[18:25] <BlubbTec> ty tolecnal mhall119
[18:25] <acicula> nilsma: does this guide help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967023
[18:25] <san> Corden: no use
[18:25] <mhall119> someone update ubottu
[18:25] <kkdue> since some weeks I'm getting an error when trying to mount a partition in gnome:
[18:25] <kkdue> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/158338/Skjermdump.png
[18:25] <mezquitale> LzrdKing, april 29 samoa time?
[18:25] <san> Corden: its not oficial
[18:25] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, I really need adobe and there seems to be no way around it and that is very frustrating
[18:26] <schweegi> its not out.
[18:26] <kbar> kkdue: how did you mount it
[18:26] <darolu> andreligne_: I don't have usb speakers so I don't know how to make them work :( I asked about the re-plugging as that can be solved using your mother board's software (bios) sry; ask in about 5 minutes and see if someone else can help
[18:26] <kkdue> is there some way to mount them with terminal (I don't know how to use hal/udev)?
[18:26] <acicula> nilsma: the devices maybe called differently, but basically it shows disabling one sound card and enabling the other?
[18:26] <metea> is this the channel for 10.04 or should i go to ubuntu+1?
[18:26] <san> K_Dallas: adobe?
[18:26] <dojo> darolu: nobody is wasting resources they post the torrent and http file to download there.
[18:26] <kkdue> kbar, using the resource menu
[18:26] <kbar> kkdue: hal is deprecated
[18:26] <daftykins> kkdue: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[18:26] <Corden> i download it based on time and date
[18:26] <K_Dallas> san, adobe acrobat (not the reader)
[18:26] <san> K_Dallas: k searchin
[18:26] <GeekSquid> daftykins: lucid is released
[18:26] <nilsma> acicula: oki, i will go thru that guide and see what i can pick up, thanks :) ps. i have only one soundcard? :)
[18:27] <Scunizi> K_Dallas: there are lots of tools to deal with PDF and do what you want.  But I think your point is that Adobe has them all in one location making it easier on the consumer.. with that I agree.. but it is possible to do all that in linux... just with various tools
[18:27] <andreligne_> darolu: ok, thanks anyways :=
[18:27] <andreligne_> :)*
[18:27] <mickster04> ubuntu 10.04 has been released
[18:27] <Corden> i will keep monitoring the date and time if change
[18:27] <Wizard> omg
[18:27] <Zed`> !lts
[18:27] <BlubbTec> !upgrade
[18:27] <Subby> it is out now!
[18:27] <Zed`> Subby: don't think so
[18:27] <garland3468> !isitout
[18:27] <Amaranth> It is.
[18:28] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, I am not even sure if I could save a filled PDF form in Linux into a fillable PDF. I can print it into a PDF but it would not be fillable unless there are some other tools that I have not discovered yet
[18:28] <Zed`> !
[18:28] <Scunizi> K_Dallas: I also have to have Windows available for work for a different set of tools.. I've been able to accomplish that by running XP in a vm with virtualbox.
[18:28] <Xcell> i believe they are working on grub
[18:28] <itshorty> hey! i'm asking here because they are partiing so hard at #ubuntu-release-party ;) ... When the countdown banners get updated?
[18:28] <Zed`> cool
[18:28] <thevishy> lucid is cool better than karmic
[18:28]  * Amaranth goes to change topic
[18:28] <Corden> better dowload the server and install either gnome or kde - for the reason of 5 years for server
[18:28] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, that is the only option available to me at the moment
[18:28] <acicula> welcome to lucid support channel,vov
[18:28] <Subby> Zed`: of course it is!
[18:28] <san> K_dallas: here you are :) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-acrobat-reader-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[18:29] <LzrdKing> so lucid is now supported in here?
[18:29] <K_Dallas> san, that is reader
[18:29] <Scunizi> K_Dallas: it works well.. seemless mode is almost transparent
[18:29] <Amaranth> LzrdKing: Yep
[18:29] <Corden> by the way is there a plan to add wubi on server edition?
[18:29] <LzrdKing> woah, just like that
[18:29] <san> K_Dallas: hey sorry
[18:29] <xomp> where does one get the 10.04 torrent?
[18:29] <LzrdKing> !lucid
[18:29] <darolu> LzrdKing: just give us a day to play with it :p
[18:29] <Scunizi> Corden: probably not.. but you could run it in virtualbox in windows.
[18:29] <erUSUL> Corden: who in its right mind will run a server via wubi ?
[18:29] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, excellent. Will try it as soon as I installed Lucid. have kept an empty partition on my laptop for Lucid for a long time :)
[18:29] <itshorty> jeah ! this was like in avatar... simply impressing
[18:29] <LzrdKing> darolu: you have a few months with the release candidates and such!
[18:29] <K_Dallas> san, no worries
[18:29] <perry_> !lucid
[18:30] <xomp> why do we have to take lucid questions to the release party channel for?
[18:30] <Corden> just for experimental ;)
[18:30] <Scunizi> K_Dallas: install build-essential & dkms .. then get the ubuntu .deb direct from virtualbox.org
[18:30] <cgroza> im sorry, but lucid is officialy out?
[18:30] <Corden> i guess im one of them hehehe
[18:30] <helo> you don't... this is now the proper place for lucid questions
[18:30] <kbar> !lucid
[18:30] <kbar> fail
[18:30] <racecar56> lucid is really out?
[18:30] <Subby> cgroza: yes it is
[18:30]  * Deathspawn has seizure watching flood in #ubuntu-release-party
[18:30] <jevangelo> if i have the 10.04 beta, can i upgrade to the stable?
[18:30] <thevishy> yes Corden  today
[18:30] <darolu> !outyet
[18:30] <piju> http://my.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[18:30] <dominicdinada> !isitout
[18:30] <K_Dallas> Scunizi, appreciate it. Will do so
[18:30] <racecar56> Deathspawn: yea it's done crazy in there
[18:30] <dominicdinada> sweet................
[18:30] <cgroza> Subby, the man page still point to karmic
[18:30] <xomp> well I'm willing to donate my bandwidth to help distribute it if someone can be arsed to provide me a torrent link to it
[18:31] <kbar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:31] <jevangelo> can i upgrade my 10.04 beta install to stable?
[18:31] <Subby> cgroza: thats right, but it was offically released...
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[18:31] <thevishy> jevangelo, i installed beta 2 and kept upgrading i presumer i dont need to install again
[18:31] <darolu> jevangelo: if you've been updating it, you're already using the final version
[18:31] <dezzu> !list
[18:31] <DDAZZA> I've just done sudo apt-get update and now it says "Buffer I/O error on device sr0" when I boot up.
[18:31] <westinghouse> is every mirror synced?
[18:31] <cgroza> in the ubuntu release party everyone looks crazy... text is just flying ariund :D
[18:31] <kbar> #ubuntu-release-party has become /b/
[18:32] <z0net> update-manager -d will update to the final version?
[18:32] <darolu> westinghouse: yes, that's why it takes so long to release it from a RC
[18:32] <kbar> whats that z0net sudo update-manager -d?
[18:32] <racecar56> z0net: update-manager
[18:32] <K_Dallas> kbar, it is frenzy at that chan :)
[18:32] <racecar56> z0net: that should do it fine
[18:32] <darolu> z0net: yes, that is correct
[18:32]  * RedNifre dances
[18:32] <z0net> ok ;p
[18:32] <Enissay> the 10.04 is for today, I see nothg on the official site
[18:32] <RedNifre> Guys, please use the torrent, it makes it faster for everyone, including you!
[18:33] <Frankie1> Anybody has gnome games freeze on a 64 bit in lynx ?
[18:33] <xomp> RedNifre, I've been asking for a torrent link forever now
[18:33] <dominicdinada> !isitout | Enissay
[18:33] <RedNifre> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:33] <darolu> Enissay: it's out, update via network :)
[18:33] <xomp> thanks!
[18:33] <frankie_> what is the alternate version?
[18:33] <Dicker> hi
[18:33] <llutz> xomp: http://my.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[18:33] <racecar56> geeeeez where's ubuntu 10.04
[18:33] <RedNifre> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:33] <racecar56> oh
[18:33] <kbar> racecar: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:33] <Guest50501> how can i install latest ver of QT ?
[18:33] <racecar56> i'm downloading it via bittorrent
[18:33] <Devil999> hey, it's really out? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download isen't updated yet.
[18:33] <dominicdinada> QT?
[18:33] <kbar> yes please use bittorent
[18:34] <kbar> Devil999, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:34] <Corden> the date and time on the server is 29-Apr-2010 17:07 - in  my point of view, that is a official release
[18:34] <FardadJalili> please use torrent if you want to download
[18:34] <uLinux> setting new software channels
[18:34] <_pg_> does anyone know how to use compiz with E17/enlightenment? I cam e accross something called elive but I dont think its what I want. Im trying to make my Ubuntu Lucid run E17 and be awesome and snazzy like OpenGEU
[18:34] <darolu> Devil999: yes, it is really out; upgrade via update-manager
[18:34] <pattycakez> I got the release candidate, will I still be able to update later
[18:34] <kbar> yes
[18:34] <LogicalDash> Oh, okay
[18:34] <kbar> pattycakez, yes use update-manager
[18:34] <Devil999> kbar, i've been in that page for a while, and there isn't anything new.
[18:34] <frankie_> what is the difference between alternate and desktop
[18:34] <kbar> yes its new
[18:34] <hoelk> any idea when the dvd images will be out?
[18:34] <LogicalDash> Well erm, I upgraded to 10.04 and now Ubuntu One doesn't seem to be syncing
[18:34] <pattycakez> I already checked update-manager and it says that my system is up to date
[18:34] <kbar> Devil999,  the RC tag on the downloads have been removed
[18:34] <Corden> yeheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[18:34] <kbar> hoelk http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:34] <Fireking300> Whats the difference between alternate and regular i386?
[18:34] <Corden> finally its announced
[18:34] <LogicalDash> The preferences app says "sync in progress" but the bar is not moving
[18:34] <Devil999> yes, but the file times are old
[18:35] <Devil999> they've been like that for a while
[18:35] <kbar> Fireking300, the alternate is CLI, the regular is gui
[18:35] <Devil999> and main page still old?
[18:35] <llutz> freaky[t]: read http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:35] <frankie_> thank you kbar
[18:35] <piju> !lucid
[18:35] <_pg_> Fireking300: i think alternate is just a text installer. better for low resource systems. someone verify?
[18:35] <piju> no released yet
[18:35] <Enissay> dominicdinada, i want to make a fresh install, where's the iso?
[18:35] <piju> and not stable :-(
[18:35] <pattycakez> my update-manager says im up to date, but I only have the rc version
[18:35] <kbar> Enissay, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:35] <Nadley> Enissay: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:35] <darolu> piju: read the channel topic
[18:35] <dominicdinada> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:35] <vamadir> ye lucid is cool
[18:35] <metea> kbar, is ndiswrapper an official solution for wireless on 10.04?  should i also install ndisgtk?
[18:35] <Rinsmaster> Anyone got a checksum on ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso?
[18:35] <_pg_> does anyone know how to use compiz with E17/enlightenment? I cam e accross something called elive but I dont think its what I want. Im trying to make my Ubuntu Lucid run E17 and be awesome and snazzy like OpenGEU
[18:35] <z0net> piju, lucid is out ;o
[18:36] <kbar> metea, ndisgtk is just the GUI version of ndiswrapper
[18:36] <darolu> pattycakez: if you've been updating it, you're already running the final version
[18:36] <mrb> The release party channel is crazy :D u can't read nothing :D haha
[18:36] <LogicalDash> Fireking300, the regular disc allows you to boot into Ubuntu and use it pretty much as normal without installing. The alternate disc doesn't, it just gives you a text-based installer. However, the alternate disc is also the one with Wubi, and you can use it to upgrade existing Ubuntu machines without formatting.
[18:36] <piju> darolu; but the bot said it is not stable
[18:36] <vamadir> i allready use it
[18:36] <kkdue> michael jackson is dead
[18:36] <kbar> metea, if you haven't used ndiswrapper or don't know how to, use ngdisgtk
[18:36] <darolu> piju: Pici >> ubottu :p
[18:36] <campee> topic says that ubuntu 10.04 is released but when i go to ubuntu.com there is only a link to the release candidate..
[18:36] <isolat3dsh33p> z0net, I tried that. No updates :(
[18:36] <pattycakez> I haven't been updating it, I downloaded it the other day, I haven't updated at all today
[18:36] <reborn> hi
[18:36] <Guest29256> fuck
[18:36] <Guest50501> plz help me
[18:36] <Guest29256> fuck
[18:36] <piju> kkdue; MJ is dead ?
[18:36] <dominicdinada> Enissay: did you get the 3 of us telling you where it was?
[18:36] <FloodBot2> Guest29256: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <ishijoe> kkdue: rip michael
[18:36] <Guest50501> how can i install qt?
[18:36] <kkdue> lol
[18:36] <Guest50501> how can i install qt?
[18:36] <reborn> what do i have to do to update ubuntu beta to release candidate?
[18:36] <Guest50501> how can i install qt?
[18:36] <Guest50501> how can i install qt?
[18:36] <Guest50501> how can i install qt?
[18:36] <dominicdinada> whats qt?
[18:36] <z0net> isolat3dsh33p, update-manager -d..
[18:36] <darolu> pattycakez: that's normal, usually the RC version has no changes compared to the final one; you should be fine
[18:37] <metea> kbar, thanks
[18:37] <dominicdinada> !QT
[18:37] <beyondenigma> ya its released
[18:37] <racecar56> Rinsmaster: i'm still downloading but i can give you one eventually
[18:37] <pattycakez> ok, thanks
[18:37] <reborn> what do i have to do to update ubuntu beta to release candidate?
[18:37] <racecar56> i give up i'll just keep downloading the torrent :|
[18:37] <LogicalDash> reborn, just run the update manager
[18:37] <_pg_> does anyone know how to use compiz with E17/enlightenment? I cam e accross something called elive but I dont think its what I want. Im trying to make my Ubuntu Lucid run E17 and be awesome and snazzy like OpenGEU
[18:37] <worldsayshi> hi! where can i download the release?
[18:37] <reborn> LD: doesnt work
[18:37] <dominicdinada> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:37] <grendal_prime> anyone got ati card working on 10.04  Thats the only thing hoding me up at this point (also need multimonitor support)
[18:37] <racecar56> worldsayshi: it's hiding at releases.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <Fireking300> No one likes to seed. >.>
[18:38] <worldsayshi> dominicdinada: is that the official "real" release or just the candidate?
[18:38] <Enissay> dominicdinada, sorry guys, im just hesitating coz its the same link I get when looking for the test version from the official site
[18:38] <LogicalDash> reborn: it won't *say* it's the release candidate, but it will update the packages just fine
[18:38] <aboSamoor_> can anyone help me with my keyboard, I can not press the letter after "h" and I want to map it to one of special functions keys in my thinkpad ?
[18:38] <claytonwalker> Have I missed it? Or is it officially out yet?
[18:38] <_pg_> Fireking300: are you talking about UBuntu torrents?
[18:38] <darolu> grendal_prime: what card exactly? manyof them are not supported anymore
[18:38] <racecar56> Fireking300: when i finish downloading then i'll be seeding
[18:38] <_pg_> claytonwalker: you havent missed it
[18:38] <mas90> don't use releases.ubuntu.com, you'll be overloading one particular mirror
[18:38] <DexterLB> evening. I need to edit the metadata of a jpeg file. I used to use digiwf but it now (as from Lucid RC) segfaults. So could you reccomend something else or I should build it from source?
[18:38] <Fireking300> yes _pg_ yes the torrent
[18:38] <mas90> give them a few minutes to get the official download link working
[18:38] <Volkodav> gnome-games freeze green up in the screen with no borders
[18:38] <grendal_prime> darolu...not sure...hold on
[18:38] <darolu> Fireking300: you'll be amazed of how many of us do like to seed.
[18:38] <mezquitale> whereis jussi01??
[18:38] <RedNifre> Is it confirmed that it's the correct release?
[18:38] <Volkodav> anybody got the card games freeze on startup ?
[18:39] <mezquitale> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:39] <platzhirsch> Hey, is it possible to update my ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 without complete new-install?
[18:39] <_pg_> Fireking300: ubuntu torrents are usually the best swarms Ive ever seen. do you have a open port?
[18:39] <freaky[t]> is lucid released allready?
[18:39] <daftykins> !upgrade | platzhirsch
[18:39] <RedNifre> So it's not just a candidate, it's the real release?
[18:39] <Fireking300> yes
[18:39] <freaky[t]> or is it still the RC?
[18:39] <_pg_> platzhirsch: sudo update-manager -d
[18:39] <kbar> out
[18:39] <kbar> a long time ago
[18:39] <DexterLB> freaky[t]: RC
[18:39] <daftykins> freaky[t]: wait for ubuntu.com to say.
[18:39] <mezquitale> freaky[t], http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ also try #ubuntu-release-party
[18:39] <platzhirsch> _pg_: nice, thanks man
[18:39] <campee> why don't they link to it on the home page? heh
[18:39] <Fireking300> my upload speed right now is 200 kbps
[18:39] <Fireking300> KB*
[18:39] <bastid_raZor> read the topic
[18:39] <SandGorgon> all ye with 64-bit hardware and still using i386 linux.. fear not. 64-bit is very stable and does _NOT_ use double the RAM (as the FUD says). Go 64-bit !!!
[18:39] <kbar> Fireking300, are you using torrent
[18:39] <daftykins> campee: not ready yet.
[18:39] <ryan-c> Not so much with the seeds on the kubuntu DVD
[18:40] <_pg_> Fireking300: that much upload could be flooding your download speed
[18:40] <Fireking300> yes kbar.
[18:40] <darolu> campee: I'm pretty sure their servers are loaded already, give them time to update the front-site
[18:40] <ghoti> my upload speed for desktop-i386 is currently 1.6Mbps
[18:40] <grendal_prime> whats the quickest way to get that..?
[18:40] <Extend> what is the release party channel
[18:40] <Fireking300> _pg_, possibly but I got a good download speed
[18:40] <_pg_> SandGorgon: agreed
[18:40] <niekie> Extend: #ubuntu-release-party
[18:40] <kbar> _pg_, not necessarily
[18:40] <Ge5i> just wondering how can i send a message which is shown like a comment * | Ge5i is asking ???
[18:40] <the_eye_> its official
[18:40] <grendal_prime> dmesg gives me a crapload of data but i cant figure out what i need for the video card
[18:40] <the_eye_> its out
[18:40] <the_eye_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[18:40] <xomp> how to tell if rtorrent is running?
[18:40] <_pg_> Fireking300: i thought you were complaining about slow speed?
[18:40] <darolu> Ge5i: /me >yourmessage>
[18:40] <xomp> via the console
[18:40] <Extend> thanks niekie
[18:41] <bastid_raZor> xomp: ps aux | grep rtorrent
[18:41]  * Ge5i Ge5i thanks darolu
[18:41] <niekie> No problem.
[18:41] <ghoti> heh - 1778 torrent clients in the swarm
[18:41] <Sdonatas> Please tell me, what ubuntu 10.04 upgrade will do with unwated packages from previous 9.10 distro?
[18:41] <bentkus> when will we be able to update our rc's?
[18:41] <bentkus> ;
[18:41] <xomp> bastid_raZor, root     27429  0.0  0.1   1788   544 pts/0    S+   13:41   0:00 grep rtorrent
[18:41] <Fireking300> _pg_, I was complaining that. but I was talking about my speed in general
[18:41] <san> BYE GUYZ SEEE YOU LATER
[18:41] <_pg_> Fireking300: ah i see
[18:41] <_pg_> does anyone know how to use compiz with E17/enlightenment? I cam e accross something called elive but I dont think its what I want. Im trying to make my Ubuntu Lucid run E17 and be awesome and snazzy like OpenGEU
[18:41] <eBryggis> Is the 64bit version stable and safe? How about the compability these days?
[18:41] <_pg_> eBryggis: go for it
[18:41] <kbar> eBryggis, it is stable im runnign it now
[18:41] <xomp> bastid_raZor, does that mean it's running?
[18:41] <bastid_raZor> xomp: if you had only one result then it is not running. you are seeing the grep yo ujust ran
[18:41] <itix> will the Netbook remix be built at the same time as the others  or at a later moment?
[18:41] <eBryggis> Thanks, sounds good
[18:41] <barberan> It's 29 of april, and there is not a release still, what's the matter ???
[18:41] <_pg_> eBryggis: if you have more than 3 GB of ram. do it
[18:42] <Fireking300> _pg_, http://www.speedtest.net/result/798505727.png
[18:42] <kbar> barberan, it is released
[18:42] <dreyk> hey guys im really desperate with my scim, ive been trying everything but it doesnt show a input panel. somebody please help me out!
[18:42] <worldsayshi> any girls here?
[18:42] <xomp> bastid_raZor, ah ok thanks, I think the iso has finished on my Linode box but am unsure, anyway to verify?
[18:42] <_pg_> Fireking300: wtf-that is insane
[18:42] <WiNkY> worldsayshi: winky am cute.. like girl
[18:42] <WiNkY> :P
[18:42] <eBryggis> _pg_: Ok, thanks. Got 4 gb. I will give it a try-
[18:42] <worldsayshi> WiNkY: YAY!
[18:42] <worldsayshi> lol
[18:42] <Fireking300> horrible upload speed tho right? _pg_  :p
[18:42] <barberan> kbar: ubuntu.com did not update their page, and there is written that 10.04 coming sson )
[18:42] <worldsayshi> WiNkY: are you in sweden?
[18:42] <WiNkY> am want squirrel for pet
[18:43] <_pg_> Fireking300: you are spoiled. my apt is 1.5 down 256k up
[18:43] <WiNkY> no
[18:43] <acicula> barberan: well it will be updated there soon too
[18:43] <bastid_raZor> xomp: md5sum the iso
[18:43] <WiNkY> usa
[18:43] <kbar> barberan,  http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:43] <_pg_> does anyone know how to use compiz with E17/enlightenment? I cam e accross something called elive but I dont think its what I want. Im trying to make my Ubuntu Lucid run E17 and be awesome and snazzy like OpenGEU
[18:43] <WiNkY> and half russia
[18:43] <kbar> anyone know why #ubuntu+1 is +i?
[18:43] <kbar> by +i i mean +m
[18:43] <xomp> crap, I think rtorrent went tots up halfway through getting 10.04...
[18:43] <Pici> kbar: Lucid is released
[18:43] <dreyk> someone help me?
[18:43] <daftykins> kbar: usually happens upon release transition time
[18:43] <bastid_raZor> kbar: it is not needed now.. this channel is the 10.04 support channel now
[18:43] <xomp> anyone have the bittorrent link again?
[18:43] <Akshay> Ubuntu released officially?
[18:43] <kbar> what
[18:43] <kbar> is it really
[18:44] <daftykins> Akshay: no
[18:44] <ctk> all images on http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[18:44] <theuros> hi .. can someone help me .. my gimp wont start ... if i try it to start nothing happens ... i can start it from console but i get following error: /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print: error while loading shared libraries: libgimpprint.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:44] <theuros> (gimp:3460): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: wire_read(): error
[18:44] <worldsayshi> WiNkY: nice
[18:44] <ezekiel_> hey everyone
[18:44] <trism> dreyk: which version of ubuntu is this? since karmic, the new default input method is ibus, so if you are on 9.10 or later you should try going to System/Administration/Language Support, selecting ibus as the input method (and installing any language packs you need), then configuring ibus in System/Preferences/Ibus Preferences
[18:44] <Akshay> daftykins, Oh whats the official release time?
[18:44] <barberan> I can not imagine the load on the ubuntu.com server now... it's huge, I think
[18:44] <acicula> theuros: installed gimp from source?
[18:44] <daftykins> Akshay: no idea personally, i'd advise watching the ubuntu.com page for an official statement :)
[18:44] <_pg_> does anyone know how to use compiz with E17/enlightenment? I cam e accross something called elive but I dont think its what I want. Im trying to make my Ubuntu Lucid run E17 and be awesome and snazzy like OpenGEU
[18:44] <threexk1> Is 10.04 the release that changes your window buttons?
[18:44] <Pici> Akshay, daftykins: Its out.
[18:44] <Nuc134rB0t_> I dont see it released yet  o.o
[18:44] <daftykins> !repeat | _pg_
[18:44] <theuros> gimp was allready installed with ubuntu
[18:45] <kbar> threexk1, easily fixed
[18:45] <Akshay> daftykins: for some reason its not loading here :/
[18:45] <soUPERMan> Nuc134rB0t_: i got it... :P
[18:45] <Akshay> Nvm im gonna download it via torrents anyway
[18:45] <theuros> then i tryed to uninstallit and installit again ..
[18:45] <Nuc134rB0t_> soUPERMan, =p
[18:45] <Pici> Akshay: The canonical guys are updating the website now.
[18:45] <attempt> theuros you've to install libgimpprint.so.1  search the package with synaptic
[18:45] <_pg_> repeat is relative to scroll speed
[18:45] <_pg_> ;)
[18:45] <soUPERMan> Nuc134rB0t_: here's the link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:45] <Akshay> Pici: i wish they were faster
[18:45] <geekphreak> hello all
[18:45] <theuros> ok thnx
[18:45] <Fireking300> good. I am downloading 1.6 MBps and uploading 200 KBps
[18:45] <soUPERMan> hey geekphreak
[18:45] <Zelozelos> is there a 9.10 channel?
[18:45] <daftykins> _pg_: either follow the advice or you get no help (:
[18:46] <darolu> Akshay: I'm pretty sure they haven't slept much lately, give them a break :p
[18:46] <acicula> Zelozelos: its here too
[18:46] <Akshay> Fireking300: Aweomse, great job
[18:46] <jakob2> How many people work at Canonical atm?
[18:46] <Pici> Zelozelos: Everythings here
[18:46] <geekphreak> soUPERMan:  hola
[18:46] <bp0> #ubuntu-minus-1
[18:46] <Akshay> darolu: I guess so
[18:46] <Akshay> :()
[18:46] <soUPERMan> what u up to geekphreak ...
[18:46] <Traveler_in_time> SITE UPDATED
[18:46] <Nuc134rB0t_> soUPERMan, thank yo ;)
[18:46] <Guest18113> hello guyz have a problem with rythmbox when someone has a minute
[18:46] <Traveler_in_time> IT IS OFFICIALLY OUT
[18:46] <muffin2> Which one would I use between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[18:46] <grendal_prime> [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]
[18:46] <ctk> http://www.ubuntu.com/ is updated!
[18:46] <Akshay> Traveler_in_time: AWESOME
[18:46] <geekphreak> Guest18113:  ask mate
[18:46] <daftykins> theuros: try "sudo apt-get install libgimp2.0"
[18:46] <dreyk> hey guys im really desperate with my scim, ive been trying everything but it doesnt show a input panel. somebody please help me out!
[18:46]  * soUPERMan pressing F5
[18:46] <darolu> Guest18113: just ask
[18:46] <grendal_prime> lspci will get that informationt by the way guys
[18:46] <jakob2> yay! :-D
[18:46]  * Zelozelos thinks that you guys should have waited a few more days b4 combining the channels, thers a LOT of ppl needing help it seems rofl
[18:46] <agnel> i have a question about ubuntu, some time its very hard to install the latest version of a program as packages are not available, and the ppa's are hard to figure out to get working.. is there an easy way to do this , some guidelines on how to install latest software in ubuntu?
[18:46] <Traveler_in_time> yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhh
[18:47] <UbuntuLily> Ya thats the link I asked about
[18:47] <Nuc134rB0t_> WOOHOOOOOOOO UBUNTU.COM
[18:47] <Nuc134rB0t_> xD
[18:47] <Akshay> ITS OUT PEOPLE!!
[18:47] <Akshay> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[18:47] <LjL> yes, it's out
[18:47] <FloodBot2> Akshay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:47] <LjL> party in #ubuntu-release-party please
[18:47] <soUPERMan> Akshay: its been out for some time, just they didnt update the site
[18:47] <darolu> agnel: each application has its documentation about how to install the latest versions; read each apps' online documentation
[18:47] <Guest18113> ok I use to be able to import music library off my worldbook but since upgrade to 10.04 it will not import anymore
[18:47] <_pg_> daftykins: im already not getting help haha
[18:47] <amereservant> Is there any particular reason there's on 64-bit minimal install image for Lucid 10.04?
[18:47] <Akshay> soUPERMan: Yeah im downloading it.. But wanted the official word to be out
[18:47] <amereservant> *no.
[18:47] <nand0> hi
[18:48] <Akshay> Damn im having some problems with my connection
[18:48] <iceroot> Akshay: the official word is out
[18:48] <soUPERMan> Akshay: yeah its a bit slow to download, im at 57%
[18:48] <agnel> darolu, i was just thinking.. as an ordinary user, in windows its damn easy to upgrade software.. why is it so hard with ubuntu ?
[18:48] <DooitzedeJong> Are you downloading with torrents?
[18:48] <dreyk> are there other support channels?
[18:48] <xomp> how to kill a process? jesus this isn't working for some reason..
[18:48] <xomp> ps kill, killall, you name it I've tried it..
[18:48] <jayson> pkill processname
[18:48] <geekphreak> xomp:  kill command
[18:48] <K_Dallas> Well, it seems that it was available some 2 hours ago. Same checksum
[18:48] <DooitzedeJong> System Monitor
[18:48] <jayson> kill -9 pid
[18:48] <Akshay> whats the official launch party channel name?
[18:48] <soUPERMan> xomp: kill -s KILL pid
[18:48] <xomp> thanks guys
[18:48] <K_Dallas> so I am now just seeding ;)
[18:48] <nand0> when it will be available for download?
[18:49] <DooitzedeJong> now
[18:49] <acicula> nand0: it already is
[18:49] <jayson> now
[18:49] <DooitzedeJong> its now availible
[18:49] <jayson> 12% down
[18:49] <DooitzedeJong> please download with torrens
[18:49] <Fireking300> I know this is a noobish but how do I figure out if I am amd64 or i386
[18:49] <Guest72407> where can i downlot it?
[18:49] <jayson> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[18:49] <Pici> Guest72407: /topic
[18:49] <Guest72407> it is not in the official sites :(
[18:49] <amereservant> K_Dallas: It actually appears it was released sooner.  The RC versions were updated last night.
[18:49] <acicula> Fireking300: what processor do you have
[18:49] <geekphreak> Akshay: #ubuntu-release-party
[18:49] <Fireking300> No idea ill look
[18:49] <Akshay> Tweeps here, lets make #ubuntu a trending topic on twitter!
[18:49] <acicula> Fireking300: or what laptop/brand
[18:49] <bastid_raZor> Fireking300: uname -m
[18:49] <soUPERMan> Guest72407: try here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:50] <xfact> Can we ask Lucid help question is here now?
[18:50] <darolu> agnel: it's not hard; but the latest versions are not always there as devolopers tend to work on the next release (that has the latest software); there are apps that create their own .deb packages, others don't; you can't expect ubuntu developers to prepare packages of every single application out there; in other words you should be asking the application developer why they don't make Ubuntu packages instead.
[18:50] <Pici> xfact: yes!
[18:50] <K_Dallas> amereservant, seems so. anyways, I can go do my other stuffs and leave it for a whole 24 hours of pure seeding :)
[18:50] <Zelozelos> how bout making a ubuntu page on facebook ;)
[18:50] <geekphreak> xfact: yes
[18:50] <xfact> Yeaa!
[18:50] <xfact> I am so happy
[18:50] <Fireking300> DX4822-01 acicula
[18:50] <acicula> Fireking300: if you have ubuntu its easy to find out, sec i'll lookup the command
[18:50] <xfact> And also record, over 2000 people joined the fun today!
[18:50]  * soUPERMan back to the pending java assignment...
[18:50]  * darolu thinks facebook is the devil
[18:50] <debrica> yay!!
[18:50] <K_Dallas> Fireking300, checkout your CPU. I guess that would answer your question
[18:51] <geekphreak> xfact: whats the question?
[18:51] <acicula> Fireking300: do you have ubuntu installed already or do you want to install?
[18:51] <Guest72407> do i have to reinstall my system? is there any way to updating my current ubuntu to 10.04?
[18:51] <westinghouse> brüssel heb de rüssel
[18:51] <jo__> text to change buttons ---> gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string “menu:minimize,maximize,close,spacer”
[18:51] <agnel> darolu, got it . i am always worried about breaking something when i manually compile and install latest sources as i'm new to linux .. I am not too familiar with debian package internals and stuff
[18:51] <xfact> geekphreak, For now no questions, just enjoying I was just verifying...
[18:51] <Fireking300> I have it installed just on windows on the moment.
[18:51] <Sickki> !lucid
[18:51] <switchgirl> !lucid
[18:51] <darolu> Guest72407: use the update-manager
[18:51] <Half-man> some one have the torrent link to ubuntu 10.04 that they can send me om pm?
[18:51] <geekphreak> xfact: great mate
[18:51] <Half-man> (=
[18:51] <jo__> text to change buttons ---> gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string “menu:minimize,maximize,close,spacer”
[18:52] <EgYPaRaDoX> !isitout
[18:52] <hayanbom> !apk
[18:52] <thee> Hi .. Can I buy  from ubuntu shop and get it delivered to India ???
[18:52] <san> wow! 10.04 its finaly out!
[18:52] <Guest72407> darolu, thanks i check it
[18:52] <san> yaa!
[18:52] <Zelozelos> Guest72407, i suggest installing from disk, but you can try the upgrade ive heard some horror stories thoug, just make sure you back up any data that you may loose
[18:52] <K_Dallas> thee, sure
[18:52] <soUPERMan> Half-man: if u dont mind, try: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:52] <san> UBUNTU 10.04 LUCID LYNX FINALLY OUT!
[18:52] <Fireking300> Anyways it says I have Intel processor but whenever I download i386 packages it says I have the wrong architecture. So i download amd64 packages.
[18:52] <olmari> hello, propably many times asked, but... if I install ubuntu 10.04 wiht "netboot", will it be RTM version?
[18:52] <DrMrHorse> what?
[18:52] <DrMrHorse> its out?
[18:52] <rosco_y> Would it be better to install 32 bit ubuntu on 64 bit hardware, or install 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:52] <ZykoticK9> jo__, what does the "spacer" do?
[18:52] <geekphreak> thee: buy what?
[18:52] <cousin_mario> hello
[18:52] <DrMrHorse> wtf happened?
[18:52] <thee> K_Dallas: Thnks .
[18:52] <acicula> Fireking300: well that gateway model seems to only be shipped with e5300 processors, which is 64bit capable so you can opt for the amd64 version
[18:52] <K_Dallas> thee, but I am pretty sure that there are Ubuntu groups in India too
[18:52] <minimec> thee: Read the shipping conditions on the homepage. i guess ... yes.
[18:52] <amereservant> rosco_y: Depends on how much ram you're using.
[18:52] <daftykins> olmari: the final version is downloadable now. it'll be final if you grab the image now.
[18:52] <cousin_mario> how can I force the installation of thunderbird 32 bit version on 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:52] <rosco_y> amereservant: I have 8 gig
[18:52] <agnel> darolu,thanks for your message.. will keep that in mind
[18:53] <jo__> i didnt write but it work good
[18:53] <cgroza> rosco_y, only if you do video editing
[18:53] <westinghouse> i have 32gb
[18:53] <olmari> daftykins: just saw it too, thanks
[18:53] <amereservant> rosco_y: Then 64-bit
[18:53] <SwedeMike> rosco_y: the answer is "depends", 64bit is good for lot of memory, bad for some applications.
[18:53] <darolu> rosco_y: 64-bit hardware will work better with 64-bit software
[18:53] <Fireking300> acicula, thank you very much
[18:53] <K_Dallas> minimec, ubuntu used to ship to Iran so India should be no problem at all
[18:53] <jo__> text to change buttons ---> gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string “menu:minimize,maximize,close,spacer”
[18:53] <Half-man> thx for the link. me happy =D
[18:53] <westinghouse> 32gb ram is ok for my opinion
[18:53] <amereservant> rosco_y: 32-bit only recognizes up to 4GB.
[18:53] <ZykoticK9> !controls | jo__
[18:53] <rosco_y> amereservant, darolu: Thank you~
[18:53] <geekphreak> 32 gb?
[18:53] <minimec> K_Dallas: ;)
[18:53] <westinghouse> yes
[18:53] <DooitzedeJong> maybe vould the admins disable notice?
[18:53] <thee> K_Dallas minimec:   Just had a look in the shop .. there was only pounds, dollars and euro .. So got a doubt ..
[18:53] <jo__> k
[18:53] <westinghouse> dual socket board frm supermicro
[18:53] <thee> In india its rupees
[18:53] <geekphreak> thee: what are  you planning to buy?
[18:54] <K_Dallas> thee, you get to pay in those currencies but they deliver to India
[18:54] <saurus> Why lucid has mac graphic?
[18:54] <Akshay> Ubuntu is now trending on twitter!
[18:54] <Akshay> :D
[18:54] <acicula> Fireking300: both i386 and amd64 should work, amd64 just takes advantages of some new features
[18:54] <Akshay> Go Ubuntu!
[18:54] <darolu> saurus: what do you mean mac graphic?
[18:54] <thee> K_Dallas: I was looking for a bag ..
[18:54] <saurus> macintosh gui
[18:54] <faruk> http://shiftdelete.net/ubuntu-10.04-cikti-20203.html
[18:54] <K_Dallas> thee, I see
[18:54] <saurus> darolu, macintosh gui
[18:54] <westinghouse> yeah finder and dock
[18:54] <darolu> saurus: it doesn't? do you mean the buttons on the left side?
[18:55] <racecar56> yay ubuntu 10.04 is released
[18:55] <westinghouse> from saulus to paulus
[18:55] <saurus> darolu, yes
[18:55] <K_Dallas> thee, have you looked at this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase/asia ?
[18:55] <Guest72407> thanks a lot for the anwsers, good bye
[18:55] <darolu> saurus: well this version introduces a lot of changes, if the buttons bother you you can change them
[18:55] <Zelozelos> the gui way to change the max,min,close buttons ;  alt f2, type gconf-editor, navigate to app, metacity, general, find button_layout, double click, type menu:minimize,maximize,close
[18:55] <geekphreak> Pici:  you getting stable build?
[18:56] <ojii> it's out but there's no updates? is that normal?
[18:56] <returnVoid> what updates
[18:56] <saurus> darolu, I know that I can change the buttons... I don't know why now are in the left :D
[18:56] <returnVoid> main page updated, check out
[18:56] <j2bv16> http://goo.gl/QHEo  ----- lucid official anounce
[18:56] <K_Dallas> ojii, have you change to lucid in your repertories?
[18:56] <m0ar> When I select "Open Folder" from deluge nothing happens, what might be happening? :)
[18:56] <ojii> K_Dallas, thanks
[18:57] <thee> K_Dallas: Looks like its place to get CDs .. isnt it ?
[18:57] <cousin_mario> how can I force the installation of thunderbird 32 bit version on 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:57] <Pici> geekphreak: I'm going back to work ;)
[18:57] <ojii> K_Dallas, ah no, I mean I was on RC but now there's no updates since a day or so
[18:57] <K_Dallas> thee, one of them that I checked seems to be sending CDs.
[18:57] <_pg_> does anyone know how to use compiz with E17/enlightenment? I cam e accross something called elive but I dont think its what I want. Im trying to make my Ubuntu Lucid run E17 and be awesome and snazzy like OpenGEU
[18:57] <barberan> wow
[18:57] <BlubbTec> any link on how to install from alternate cd?
[18:57] <BlubbTec> 10.04 i mean
[18:57] <BlubbTec> upgrade*
[18:57] <geekphreak> Pici:  oh k bud, i am thinking about it :)
[18:57] <barberan> index page has been updated)
[18:57] <K_Dallas> ojii, I don't have Lucid but I saw people getting updates right now
[18:57] <BlubbTec> how to upgrade from alternate cd, any links?
[18:57] <Zelozelos> sarus, darolu are you trying to change the buttons on the window ?if so look up a little
[18:57] <janjiss> Hello guys! I would like to concraduate you with new ubuntu! :))
[18:58] <EgYPaRaDoX> I have 4 OS on my pc including ubuntu (via wubi) using windows boot loader, im downloading the live cd not the alternate one, if i remove ubuntu and install lucid it through wubi will it cause problems for the rest of the OS?
[18:58] <j2bv16> Torrent Download
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> _pg_:  short answer is you proberly dont. E has its own special  window manager.. compiz is a window maanger..
[18:58] <darolu> Zelozelos: no, sarus just asked why they decided to include left-sided buttons as default
[18:58] <ojii> K_Dallas, okay... I'll just wait and see then
[18:58] <rygar> _pg_: google for  ecomorph
[18:58] <K_Dallas> all right
[18:58] <ZykoticK9> cousin_mario, assuming you have a DEB file use "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture $DEBNAME.deb"
[18:58] <Zelozelos> rofl
[18:58] <Zelozelos> man theres soo many people in here
[18:58] <cousin_mario> ZykoticK9: well, I wanted to take updates into consideration
[18:58] <darolu> too many !ot too...
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  actually its a little slow
[18:58] <ojii> also: anyone know how I can reload the keyboard settings? I added something to /etc/modprobe.d/ and I think that's the reason my keyboard stopped working, removed that now and wonder how I can reload it
[18:58] <josephseraos> What's up?
[18:58] <thee> K_Dallas: I ll download  .... instead of getting the CD....  Is there any difference K_Dallas ?
[18:58] <ZykoticK9> cousin_mario, can't be done then
[18:58] <Deathspawn> updates are going to be wicked slow...
[18:58] <cousin_mario> ZykoticK9: can you have a repository for multiple architectures?
[18:58] <moderndayzero> when i open up synaptics i get this error "Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)" anyone know how to fix this?
[18:58] <franl> Anyone have MD5 or SHA-1 hashes for the ISO images?
[18:58] <EgYPaRaDoX> I have 4 OS on my pc including ubuntu (via wubi) using windows boot loader, im downloading the live cd not the alternate one, if i remove ubuntu and install lucid it through wubi will it cause problems for the rest of the OS?
[18:59] <cousin_mario> ZykoticK9: but thunderbird 3 is a piece of shit
[18:59] <Failureman> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/MD5SUMS
[18:59] <K_Dallas> thee, I am confused now :) Do you need the CDs or this one: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=511
[18:59] <Failureman> md5sums there
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> monteith:  edit line 54 and fix it.
[18:59] <ZykoticK9> !language | cousin_mario
[18:59] <franl> Failureman: Thx!
[18:59] <Akshay> EgYPaRaDoX: Nope
[18:59] <Zelozelos> is there a facebook ubuntu page? if not would i need any special permissions to make one?
[18:59] <BonezAU> ojii, type modprobe <name of module you removed then re-added>
[18:59]  * Spear is dissapointed with the new ubuntu theme -- they need to change the default font badly
[18:59] <Guest18113> so any iseas why rythmbox will import folder off worldbook?
[18:59] <returnVoid>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER returnVoid yyrzyxrpkawv
[18:59] <K_Dallas> Zelozelos, make one and see how many joins it. You just cannot make it official
[19:00] <EgYPaRaDoX> Akshay: should you recommend me backing up through easybcd?
[19:00] <Spear> lol @ returnVoid
[19:00] <erUSUL> returnVoid: everybody has seen that password ....
[19:00] <conb123> Hooray Ubuntu 10.04 is out, anyone know if they fixed the issues with fglrx? I tried my radeon hd 5750 in the rc and had no joy.
[19:00] <Spear> thanks for your password...
[19:00] <erUSUL> returnVoid: change it ASAP
[19:00] <mezquitale> Zelozelos, you could open a facebook with an ubuntu theme, i doubt anyone would mind, just as long as you dont make it seem as if it's an official page from canonical
[19:00] <geekphreak> returnVoid: huh lol
[19:00] <theadmin> Yay, I suppose?
[19:00] <returnVoid> its fucked up copy pase
[19:00] <thee> K_Dallas ... I dont need CDs ..  I ll download if I need software... I want to buy  Ubuntu Bag...   Just wanted to know if there is any difference between 'getting the software by download' or 'ordering CD' ..
[19:00] <acicula> returnVoid: be sure to change it every where, this channel is publicly logged
[19:00] <LogicalDash> I'd like to change the background image of the login screen. How do I go about that?
[19:00] <acicula> returnVoid: mind your language
[19:00] <imagine7xy> How do I change my CPU from ondemand to performance ?
[19:00] <theadmin> thee: No
[19:00] <K_Dallas> thee, CDs or ISOs, all the same
[19:00] <returnVoid> ok alright sorry
[19:00] <Guest18113> i meant to say will not import
[19:00] <darolu> !language | returnVoid
[19:00] <theadmin> LogicalDash: gdm2setup
[19:00] <Akshay> EgYPaRaDoX: Not necessary, Wubi will work fine. But the files in the drive that you install it in cannot be accessed i think
[19:00] <geekphreak> theadmin: hi
[19:00] <acicula> imagine7xy: via proc or via cpufrequency-applet
[19:01] <Zelozelos> maybe canonical should, it would be a great way to get the word out
[19:01] <thee> K_Dallas: Oky thanks sir ..
[19:01] <K_Dallas> returnVoid, need a new password? ;)
[19:01] <theadmin> geekphreak: Hello.
[19:01] <K_Dallas> thee, sure
[19:01] <ojii> BonezAU, what's the module for keyboard?
[19:01] <LogicalDash> imagine7xy, you need to add the CPU Control Applet to your panel.
[19:01] <theadmin> Holy frog, this channel is burning.
[19:01] <acicula> imagine7xy: prolly also is a setting for it in /etc/ somewhere
[19:01] <BonezAU> ojii, don't know sorry
[19:01] <acicula> theadmin: /ignore #ubuntu +QUITS +JOINS +NICKS +PARTS
[19:01] <geekphreak> theadmin: thats always a good sign
[19:01] <theadmin> acicula: Have that on :D
[19:01] <Akshay> EgYPaRaDoX: I meant cannot be accessed from Ubuntu, but you can access the drive from windows
[19:01] <lucas12> :)
[19:01] <m0ar> acicula: Why the pluses?
[19:02] <acicula> m0ar: i have no idea
[19:02] <dreyk> can anybody help me out with scim?
[19:02] <EgYPaRaDoX> is it possible to expand the swap partition if I installed through wubi?
[19:02] <acicula> m0ar: try without and let me know
[19:02] <coj> question - is pysdm known to be buggy with Lucid? it seems to mess up on detecting sda1 for me, and resulted in my / not being mounted. i had to edit fstab to get it working. seems like a serious issue for anyone who's trying to configure automounting using pysdm.
[19:02] <EgYPaRaDoX> since 256 MB is not much
[19:02] <theadmin> EgYPaRaDoX: There is no swap if you install from WUBI, AFAIR
[19:02] <sandeepce> IGNORE #ubuntu QUITS JOINS NICKS PARTS
[19:03] <EgYPaRaDoX> when I open system monitor it said that I have a 256 swap partition
[19:03] <agliodbs> so I'm trying to print from an UNR laptop to a ubuntu server via CUPS
[19:03] <perlsyntax> where can i find the dvd for ubuntu 10.04?
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> coj:  ive seen people really mess things up witgh psysdm  - backup your fstab first and pay attention to what it does
[19:03] <agliodbs> and it's failing without a useful error message
[19:03] <Eny> OIIIIIIIIIII
[19:03] <m0ar> acicula: I've always done it without the pluses
[19:03] <theadmin> perlsyntax: Look at releases.ubuntu.com
[19:03] <Zelozelos> EgYPaRaDoX, what i do is i use the storage device manager to automatically mount the windows partition, then made links to the public folder, anything i put in there can be accessed w/o any problems w encryption/permissions issues
[19:03] <acicula> m0ar: then its probably not needed i suppose
[19:03] <theadmin> ...bleh, server load is awful, can't get Lucid
[19:03] <pepePlu> people please tell me i can change the location of the buttons on Lucid Lynx
[19:03] <GSF1200S> theadmin: torrent!
[19:03] <BonezAU> theadmin, tried a mirror?
[19:03] <perakus_> my new ubuntu 10.04 is slow than 9.10 in desktop load, is normal ?
[19:03] <acicula> m0ar: i thought it was +- to toggle
[19:03] <agliodbs> it doesn't look like it's actually sending the print job to the server at all ... does anyone know how I can trace this so I can see why it's not working?
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  torrents i bet are real real real fast right now
[19:03] <BonezAU> pepePlu, yes you can, google will help
[19:03] <_pg_> anyone know how to get ecomorph installed/working on ubuntu running e17?
[19:04] <theadmin> GSF1200S: BonezAU: Dr_Willis: I'm updatingzit from RC
[19:04] <agliodbs> for that matter, has anyone actually gotten Linux->Linux printing via cups to work?
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:  you can check the logs in /var/logs and enable more verbose logging for the cups server
[19:04] <m0ar> acicula: Oh, what client btw?
[19:04] <perlsyntax> theadmin i look for the stable one.
[19:04] <_pg_> or how to configure it? maybe I already have it....
[19:04] <GSF1200S> im downloading 64bit desktop at 1.4MBps!
[19:04] <acicula> m0ar: irssi
[19:04] <BonezAU> theadmin, what is the mirror you use in sources.list ?
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  i did that yesterday :)  and i will wait a week befor i update again
[19:04] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: how do I enable that?  cupsd.conf?
[19:04] <m0ar> acicula: Ah, then it works without the pluses
[19:04] <mezquitale> perakus_, lucid boots up and shuts down lilke in 5-10 seconds on my laptop
[19:04] <theadmin> BonezAU: ru.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:04] <BonezAU> theadmin, are you in russia? try another nearby country it may be a lot faster
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:  CUPS has a web interface http://localhost:631 also
[19:04] <coj> Dr_Willis, pysdm seemed to read fstab wrongly and cause it to be misconfigured once changes were applid. i'm afraid the same bug will hit other newbies trying to configure hard drive mounting, just as it hit me.
[19:04] <theadmin> BonezAU: Yeah, I am in russia
[19:05] <perlsyntax> anyone know where i can download the ubuntu 10.04 dvd image that stable?
[19:05] <Guest18113> Rythmbox will not import music library off worldbook2
[19:05] <rygar> _pg_: www.elivecd.org
[19:05] <BonezAU> theadmin, go into Synaptic and use the "Find fastest server" tool
[19:05] <bastid_raZor> perlsyntax: read the topic
[19:05] <coj> i ended up unable to start the ubuntu GUI or something like that, which was pertty scary
[19:05] <EgYPaRaDoX> in my ubuntu\disks directory there are 2 files one is about 8.35 GB and the ohter is 256 MB, i guess the other one repersents the swap?
[19:05] <perakus_> mezquitale my 10.04 64 go the login to view desktop in 20 !!!!!!!1
[19:05] <ojii> dammit keyboard still not working
[19:05] <ojii> this is realy really bad
[19:05] <perakus_> is not normal lool
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> coj:  my advice - forget  that psysdm or whatever its called.. ever existed. :)
[19:05] <j2bv16> Downloading
[19:06] <Zelozelos> EgYPaRaDoX, yes it prolly is swap
[19:06] <EgYPaRaDoX> how can i expand it?
[19:06] <theadmin> EgYPaRaDoX: Come on man, do a normal install and don't worry
[19:06] <EgYPaRaDoX> I have 4 OS
[19:06] <mezquitale> perakus_, that's most likely a bug, you might want to file a bug report
[19:06] <Zelozelos> EgYPaRaDoX, you dont need to make it bigger, it knows exactly what size it needs 2 be
[19:06] <theadmin> 45 Bytes/sec... that ain't working this way *decides to wait till tommorow to upgrade*
[19:06] <EgYPaRaDoX> i prefer in this situation wubi than grub
[19:07] <EgYPaRaDoX> Zelozelos: i see
[19:07] <_pg_> rygar: that is debian based. is there similar for ubuntu?
[19:08] <theadmin> _pg_: Ubuntu and Debian are close relatives
[19:08] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: oh yes, right
[19:08] <EgYPaRaDoX> I believe nobody is absolutely free to answer anyone at the moment.
[19:08] <rygar> i installed ecomorph in ubuntu once, think you'll have to find debs or compile it
[19:08] <bastid_raZor> ;/.';['
[19:08] <coj> Dr_Willis, but then how are less technical users supposed to access their windows drives automatically? i do wish ubuntu had convenient options like "Mount all mountable HDs automatically" so less technical folks don't have to mess around with fstab manually.
[19:08] <pookito> can anyone direct me to the UNR torrent.  for some reason the website is not offering it
[19:08] <chadi> how can I reload the wi-fi drivers?
[19:08] <ghosty> is ubuntu still based off the unstable branch though?
[19:08] <rygar> _pg_ besides ubuntu is debian based too
[19:08] <theadmin> coj: It mounts em all by default
[19:08] <theadmin> ghosty: Based off squeeze, whatever that is
[19:09] <coj> theadmin, not ntfs drives it doesn't...afaik
[19:09] <coj> at least it didn't mount mine
[19:09] <theadmin> coj: Did for me :P
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> pookito, they are fixing a GRUB bug - so only "Ubuntu" is released so far (i believe)
[19:09] <coj> wut
[19:09] <pookito> thanks
[19:09] <Pici> pookito: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%164%A67%92%A5h%8F%DDK%60%AEQ%A8%81%20%B6%0B%EE%2A
[19:09] <ghosty> I think squeeze is the newest unstable branch
[19:09] <llutz> theadmin: squeeze is debian/testing
[19:09] <ChogyDan> ghosty: it was based on testing as a baseline
[19:09] <_pg_> rygar: but I have a working Ubuntu 10.04 setup I just want to make awesome with E17
[19:09] <coj> theadmin: seriously? can someone else confirm that 10.04 automatically mounts all NTFS partitions?
[19:09] <llutz> ghosty:  squeeze is debian/testing, unstable is sid
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> pookito, Pici thanks!  My bad.
[19:10] <EgYPaRaDoX> another question, is ntfs-3g safe?
[19:10] <theadmin> coj: I dunno. I specified a mount point while installing, that's why, I suppose
[19:10] <Zelozelos> coj no mine dosent i have 2 use storage device manager
[19:10] <theadmin> EgYPaRaDoX: Yeah
[19:10] <h93> When issuing cat /proc/cpuinfo, a friend's computer shows as model name "Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60MHz" and under cpu MHz 800.000. What value is right? Has the processor been under-clocked?
[19:10] <coj> Zelozelos, did it give you any problems? are you using lucid?
[19:10] <coj> theadmin, specified a mount point for each partition?
[19:10] <_pg_> IIIITTTSTSSSSSOOOOOOUUUUUTTTT
[19:10] <coj> i guess that might do it...
[19:10] <ohir> h93: yes
[19:10] <Zelozelos> coj no problems, and yes i use lucid, and its almost the newest build its from 2 days ago
[19:10] <theadmin> coj: Pretty much yes (only 2 of them)
[19:10] <tman_> will ubuntu 10.04 run alright on my pc with a amd sempron 1ghs proceeser w/ 512mb of ram?:) and how about running the visual effects with that hardware?
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> h93, if is running on battery?  It's probably in powersaving mode
[19:11] <_pg_> !lucid
[19:11] <ubutom> h93, that model supports speedstep and so on
[19:11] <_pg_> hahaha awesome
[19:11] <theadmin> coj: /dev/sda2 = /media/windows/ ; /dev/sda1 = /
[19:11] <coj> Zelozelos, weird, pysdm screwed my fstab by misreading it...
[19:11] <h93> ohir: ZykoticK9: ubutom: thank you
[19:11] <bastid_raZor> h93: it is probably on a 'ondemand' governor
[19:11] <theadmin> tman_: It should run fine, but vis effects... meh
[19:11] <ohir> h93: you may disable speedstep at BIOS level if you really want to
[19:11] <knittl> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, it's here!!!
[19:11] <Zelozelos> coj idk what pysdm is, but i can help you with storage device manager, if you want
[19:11] <sebsebseb> !pary | knittl
[19:12] <sebsebseb> !party | knittl
[19:12] <pa> hi
[19:12] <tman_> i'll still test it out and see
[19:12] <Hans_Henrik> i need to search an entire folder full of files for a specific text string, how can i do that?
[19:12] <coj> theadmin, i must have missed where in the installation it allows you to specify mountpoints for each partition. oh well, thanks anyway
[19:12] <knittl> sebsebseb: lol, ok
[19:12] <sebsebseb> knittl: uh
[19:12] <coj> Zelozelos, pysdm = storage device manager
[19:12] <tobiasgies> hi there
[19:12] <pa> how do i update from lucid beta to lucid final? just dist-upgrade?
[19:12] <bastid_raZor> h93: you could add the cpu frequency applet to the panel and be able to change the speeds/governors that way
[19:12] <sebsebseb> knittl: hrm they got that factoid already updated for the next one
[19:12] <knittl> i'm just happy :D
[19:12] <Guest18113> I can't get rythmbox to import music folder on worldbook2
[19:12] <Zelozelos> coj ahhh rofl
[19:12] <sebsebseb> knittl: anyway Lucid party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[19:12] <EgYPaRaDoX> which ntfs-3g version is most stable?
[19:12] <coj> Zelozelos, anyway i got it fixed by maually editing fstab, so no problems. i was just concerned that other newbies would run into the same problem.
[19:12] <theadmin> pa, pretty much yeah
[19:12] <knittl> sebsebseb: no problem, i don't wanna party, i was just expressing my joy
[19:12] <Zelozelos> coj i get it, *python* storage device manager ;)
[19:13] <steve__> hello everyone
[19:13] <coj> Zelozelos, i suppose :P
[19:13] <arielh> is ubuntu 10.4 out already?
[19:13] <j2bv16> hello [stece]
[19:13] <sebsebseb> arielh: yes
[19:13] <theadmin> arielh: yup yup
[19:13] <_pg_> arielh: hell yes
[19:13] <h93> thank you very much! that helped a lot! :)
[19:13] <j2bv16> yes in the official web
[19:13] <j2bv16> im seeding
[19:13] <Urda> Question: Best way to install my 10.04 LTS x64 from USB?
[19:13] <jotall> Why such a short EOL space for 8.10, one day?
[19:13]  * Urda no CD drive this time around
[19:13] <theadmin> jotall: Cuz it wasn't a LTS
[19:13] <sebsebseb> jotall: I am getting from a FTP server, screw seeding with you lot heh heh
[19:13] <steve__> if you were running the 10.04rc are you going to have to reinstall today with a final copy of the cd or will the upgrades take care of it
[19:13] <arielh> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ has the beta? or the realease?
[19:13] <sebsebseb> jotall: uh wrong one.   j2bv16 ^
[19:13] <sebsebseb> above
[19:13] <Pici> arielh: final
[19:14] <theadmin> arielh: da final
[19:14] <Zelozelos> steve__, good q, i ws wondering that myself
[19:14] <jotall> theadmin: Ah, right, which one was.. 8.04? 7.04? darn.. can't remember..
[19:14] <Slart> jotall: 8.10? wasn't it 8.04 that was LTS?
[19:14] <Slart> !8.10
[19:14] <theadmin> jotall: Hardy Heron, 8.04
[19:14] <j2bv16> is in the officla web sebsebseb
[19:14] <sebsebseb> yeah RIP 8.10 :(
[19:14] <Pici> jotall: 8.10 has been scheduled for an April 30th EOL for a while now, it just wasn't in the topic.
[19:14] <fructose> My keyboard F1-12 keys are not working normally now... when I hit F1 it gives me power info (even though this is a desktop). How do I reset it? (And what did I do?)
[19:14] <j2bv16> what is the command to upgrade from Rc ?
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[19:15] <Yomero> is fixed the bug with the grub?
[19:15] <Slart> j2bv16: just a regular update should do afaik
[19:15] <theadmin> j2bv16: just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:15] <Pici> !final | j2bv16
[19:15] <ikonia> j2bv16: synaptic will offer updates so it will do it auto
[19:15] <j2bv16> Ok
[19:15] <pa> theadmin, so is it normal that from yesterday to today there were no updates ?
[19:15] <msmooth> I cannot install 10.04 I get "Input signal out of range" no video when entering setup.
[19:15] <theadmin> 10.10? lolwut?
[19:15] <j2bv16> lets upgrade
[19:15] <Pici> theadmin: er, let me fix that
[19:15] <piju> lets celebrate with http://www.malaysiabest.net/2007/08/28/mee-banjir-udang-kuala-sepetang-taiping/
[19:15] <rygar> _pg_: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1280189&page=8
[19:15] <theadmin> and pardon me, but we have a typo, "Maveric"
[19:15] <ilf> yay!
[19:15] <PHLAK> apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade don't do anything
[19:16] <PHLAK> from the RC
[19:16] <ChogyDan> PHLAK: are you trying to upgrade with a cd?
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> PHLAK:  if you ahve updated recently. it may be you are up to date
[19:16] <MenZa> !dist-upgrade | PHLAK
[19:16] <ilf> what's the difference between # do-release-upgrade and changing sources.list + # apt-get dist-upgrade manually?
[19:16] <moderndayzero> quick question,when i open up synaptics i get this error "Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)" anyone know how to fix this?
[19:16] <PHLAK> ubottu: where do I see that?
[19:16] <EgYPaRaDoX> changing sources.list bit risky
[19:16] <Slart> ilf: one is good and should work, the other one isn't and sometimes doesn't
[19:16] <fructose> My keyboard F1-F12 keys are not working normally now... when I hit F1 it gives me power info (even though this is a desktop). How do I reset it? (And what did I do?)
[19:16] <EgYPaRaDoX> if you dont know what your doing
[19:16] <ChogyDan> ilf: do-release-upgrade handles dependencies
[19:16] <rygar> are there torrents for dvd releases of lynx?
[19:16] <Guest18113> exit
[19:16] <theadmin> sorry, I'm out. Too noisy.
[19:17] <digismack> I tried to upgrade through update-manager and I get "Could not get the release notes - please check your internet connection." But, my net connection is working fine.
[19:17] <steve__> i just checked for updates and there were no updates from yesterday till today
[19:17] <steve__> hmmmmm
[19:17] <nilsma> any advice on how to get audio thru HDMI (video working)? (karmic, gts250, audigy2)
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> moderndayzero:  edit like 54 of the file it says. It either has a typo or some other mistake.
[19:17] <pavs> I am on ubuntu 10.04 beta build how do I upgrade to the final release? Its not giving me an option from update manager
[19:17] <ChogyDan> digismack: try torrenting the alternate cd, and upgrade with that
[19:17] <ZykoticK9> !final | pavs
[19:17] <acicula> nilsma: no luck yet enabling the sound?
[19:17] <Gieke> hey, i updated my dual booted windows vista - ubuntu 9.10 to version 10.4, but now i can't boot into windows
[19:17] <Gieke> any ideas?
[19:17] <iMaTh> hi all :)
[19:17] <racecar56> yay my download is done
[19:17] <racecar56> i
[19:17] <h93> digismack: perhaps your repository server is temporarily unavailable. try to use another: System / Administration / Software Sources
[19:17] <nilsma> acicula: unfortunately not :/
[19:17] <tobiasgies> which version of the netbook remix is the right one for my Samsung NC10? specs of the 'book are here: http://www.sammynetbook.com/samsung-nc10
[19:17] <ojii> I'm on lucid and my keyboard stopped working as of today (I used RC before and it worked yesterday evening), does anyone have an idea what I could do?
[19:17] <racecar56> iMaTh: hi
[19:17] <pavs> Thanks
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> moderndayzero:  you fix it. by fixing that line.
[19:18] <h93> ojii: perhaps you get lucky by unplugging/replugging the kbd
[19:18] <acicula> ojii: what kind of keyboard
[19:18] <msmooth> anyone?
[19:18] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: so, apparently the desktop GUI for network printers in UNR is broken
[19:18] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: where would I report this?
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:  it workd for me when i set up my new printer yesterday.
[19:19] <ojii> acicula, h93 it's a notebook keyboard, so no unplugging/replugging
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:   It saw my networked printer and set it right up.
[19:19] <Urda> Hey! Bittorrent of the iso?
[19:19] <Zelozelos> ojii reboot?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[19:19] <ojii> Zelozelos, I tried re-logging in...
[19:19] <acicula> ojii: does it work at boot? can you go into/out of the bios and grub menu?
[19:19] <rygar> !dvd-torrents
[19:20] <ojii> acicula, I don't get a GRUB
[19:20] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: well, when I tried to set up a printer via the desktop widget, it found the network printer ... but then set it up as a local raw printer
[19:20] <PHLAK> what's this "!upgrade" everyone is talking about?
[19:20] <acicula> ojii: you get asked to press ESC on boot or wait a few seconds
[19:20] <digitalstimulus> ojii, does it work before ubuntu loads?
[19:20] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: when I set it up via the cups intereface, it worked
[19:20] <acicula> or somethin to that extent
[19:20] <ClaytonW> !outyet
[19:20] <j2bv16> Listo
[19:20] <jevangelo> PHLAK
[19:20] <j2bv16> descargando Ubuntu
[19:20] <Maroo> Any idea why it would hang on booting from USB (10.04) with error "stdin: error 0" among others?
[19:20] <Zelozelos> ojii try a full reboot
[19:20] <jevangelo> that is a bot command to get info on how to upgrade
[19:20] <Pici> !upgrade| jevangelo
[19:20] <switchgirl> happy ew year jsharper
[19:20] <lucas12> anyone have link of rapidsdhare of ubuntu 10.04 amd64 ?
[19:20] <PHLAK> !upgrade
[19:20] <thevishy> where do the flv cache get stored in ubuntu of a youtube ?
[19:20] <Gieke> hello, can anyone help me with grub.cfg?
[19:20] <fructose> Can anyone help me? When I hit F1, Ubuntu pops up Power Information in the corner, instead of sending it to the programs I'm using. What's going on?
[19:21] <ZykoticK9> thevishy, /tmp
[19:21] <Gieke> thevish, /tmp
[19:21] <lucifer_> yup
[19:21] <abhijain> i m in india and which server location is need to select for download 10.4
[19:21] <lucifer_> i do have little material for grub edit
[19:21] <msmooth> i cannot install 10.04 can anyone help please?
[19:21] <acicula> abhijain: just grab the torrent?
[19:21] <ojii> Zelozelos, I will try in a minute, need it for work now
[19:21] <dzup> thevishy: in /tmp as any body
[19:21] <the_eye_> use torrents
[19:21] <lucifer_> but whats ur problem gieke
[19:21] <OutlawJHS> with one computer can I have 2 users using their own ubuntu one accounts when they log in
[19:21] <the_eye_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[19:21] <ojii> digitalstimulus, I wouldn't know, but I assume so
[19:21] <dsterne> ojii: try logging in with the virtual keyboard, does the keyboard work after that? I had problems with virtual instances and had to log in using the virtual keyboard, then the keyboard worked. running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" fixed the issue
[19:21] <thevishy> thanks
[19:21] <Gieke> lucifer, can i pm u?
[19:21] <j2bv16> Ubuntu 10.04 in Twitter trending topics
[19:21] <j2bv16> Yeah
[19:21] <lucifer_> ok
[19:21] <rygar> !torrents | abhijain
[19:21] <ojii> dsterne, I use it via synaptics atm
[19:21] <ClaytonW> Yay! Torrents! Less strain on Conanical servers!
[19:21] <ojii> dsterne, I mean synergy
[19:21] <Westernis> hi all
[19:22] <h93> !hi | Westernis
[19:22] <lucifer_> hi westeris
[19:22] <digitalstimulus> ojii, try rebooting and pressing a bios entry key like F1, Del, F10 (whichever your bios uses)
[19:22] <ChogyDan> msmooth: please describe your troubles
[19:22] <rosco_y> where can we get the md5sums for the 10.04 release isos?
[19:22] <ojii> digitalstimulus, any idea what the 'bios key' is for a macbook pro?
[19:22] <ost> hello
[19:22] <acicula> rosco_y: in the same directory or from canonicals main repo
[19:22] <jotall> Uh, what's the alternate release?
[19:22] <dsterne> ojii: try reconfiguring the console-setup using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[19:22] <Westernis> where is the party chan?
[19:22] <KEFIR> how do I override repository block while updating to lucud? I need to update from hi-speed local mirror, but it blocks any third-party reps for update time
[19:22] <digitalstimulus> macbook uses something different :)
[19:22] <rosco_y> acicula:  sorry, I found them
[19:22] <acicula> jotall: a text based installer
[19:22] <msmooth> i boot from the disk i burnt from the iso, i get a purple screen with a kb at the bottom.. then "Input signal out of Range" no video.
[19:22] <tim__> hi
[19:23] <digitalstimulus> ojii, macbook doesn't use bios..hmm
[19:23] <jotall> acicula: Ah, right. And that's it?
[19:23] <tim__> can i install the nvidia binaries from nvidia.com on ubuntu lucid?
[19:23] <_pg_> rygar: that page specifically?
[19:23] <acicula> jotall: well being text based you can do a bit more during the install process, you dont want to use it unless the normal installer doesnt work or you have a reason to use the alternative installer
[19:23] <digitalstimulus> ojii, did you do a dist-upgrade or fresh install?
[19:23] <ChogyDan> KEFIR: I don't know, but can you grab the alternate cd from the mirror?
[19:23] <ost> what "do-release-upgrade" actually does?
[19:23] <ojii> dsterne, I tried that command and it didn't work
[19:23] <acicula> ost: text based update to next release
[19:24] <ojii> digitalstimulus, I use lucid since beta 2 on this machine
[19:24] <ost> acicula: what it does?
[19:24] <ojii> digitalstimulus, fresh install tho
[19:24] <rubydia__> will it be safe to upgrade to 10.04 from 9.10
[19:24] <rubydia__> also how much time it would take?
[19:24] <tiina> hej
[19:24] <acicula> ost: update, just like update-manager -d
[19:24] <ChogyDan> tim__ it used to be "no"  not sure what it is now
[19:24] <tiina> har problem med firefox
[19:24] <KEFIR> well ill try this, thanks
[19:24] <abhijain> rygar: i m downloading at through ubuntu .com
[19:24] <rygar> _pg_: didnt read the thread, but looked like a good pointer
[19:24] <acicula> rubydia__: yeah, make backups of data though, depends on your computer and connection speed
[19:24] <msmooth> Im using a 28' 1080p monitor with a GTX 260
[19:24] <rubydia__> acicula: hmm
[19:25] <The_Jorge> hey, i was using the ubuntu release candidate, and when i try to update to the official release, update manager says that my system is currently up to date
[19:25] <ClaytonW> Wait just a minute... If I was using the RCs, can I just update from there?
[19:25] <rygar> abhijain: torrents are faster and don't hog the webservers
[19:25] <acicula> rubydia__: it takes 30mins to fetch here, and prolly about 1h to run through all the updates on a 5400rpm/c2d lapotp
[19:25] <rubydia__> which is better .10 versions or .04 ?
[19:25] <rubydia__> I have 9.10
[19:25] <EgYPaRaDoX> there are no issues with grub?
[19:25] <ChogyDan> !final | The_Jorge
[19:25] <rubydia__> I am thinking .10 ones are stable
[19:25] <The_Jorge> !final
[19:25] <EgYPaRaDoX> are there*
[19:25] <ChogyDan> rubydia__: its a date, month 4, April
[19:25] <acicula> rubydia__: .10 and .04 relates to dates
[19:26] <digitalstimulus> ojii, you can hold down C on mac to get a list of devices to boot from...if that works, then the keyboard is working for sure
[19:26] <coj> it's simple to do updates directly from the ISO, right? i'm on 10.04 beta 2, not quite updated
[19:26] <jbuncher> The_Jorge, that should have said Lucid, but yeah, if you've been updating your rc version, then you're already running the final.
[19:26] <The_Jorge> ChogyDan: what do you want me to do? lol.... that didnt get me a message or anything
[19:26] <Dicker> Why was it important to emphasise the Long Term Support?
[19:26] <The_Jorge> jbuncher: is there any way for me to check?
[19:26] <rubydia__> hmm
[19:26] <ChogyDan> The_Jorge: did you read the message?
[19:26] <acicula> so 9.10 is older then 10.04 which has newer features. the only other difference is LTS versions, which means the verion, in this case 10.04 will be supported for a longer period
[19:26] <ojii> I will try digitalstimulus , brb
[19:26] <The_Jorge> ChogyDan: nothing came
[19:26] <BonezAU> finally 100% downloaded!
[19:26] <ost> acicula: I mean does it do something more than change release name in sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[19:26] <acicula> Dicker: buisnesses use an os for far longer then 18 months
[19:26] <jbuncher> The_Jorge, basically, the update manager is the check.  If there are no updates, then you're running the final release
[19:26] <jevangelo> !LTS
[19:26] <trucker> is the manual partition encryption fixed on the alt version?
[19:27] <acicula> ost: dunno, it probably does, use the recommended ways of upgrading
[19:27] <msmooth> Chogydan any ideas?
[19:27] <ost> I can't
[19:27] <The_Jorge> ah ok
[19:27] <ost> sigh
[19:27] <Ervis> 10.04 out
[19:27] <Ervis> :)
[19:27] <acicula> ost: you cant run do-upgrade or update-manager?
[19:27] <Zelozelos> is there a way for me to ignore the ubottu?
[19:27] <acicula> Zelozelos: /ignore <whoever>
[19:28] <Zelozelos> acicula, tried it didnt work
[19:28] <digitalstimulus> am I correct by saying that if you were using the RC/Beta and kept it up to date, you already have the latest release and don't need to do anything else?
[19:28] <ChogyDan> msmooth: no, sorry.  I would file a bug
[19:28] <Pici> Zelozelos: why would you need to do that?
[19:28] <ost> acicula: I can't let it mangle my sources.list
[19:28] <msmooth> will do thanks
[19:28] <ZykoticK9> digitalstimulus, correct
[19:28] <Zelozelos> too much ubottu
[19:28] <Flamey> .help notice
[19:28] <BonezAU> digitalstimulus, yes correct
[19:28] <digitalstimulus> that's what I thought :)
[19:28] <acicula> ubottu spews a lot of stuff, i have ubottu on ignore too most of the time
[19:28] <guest3> Where do I find the 10.04 release notes?
[19:28] <Pici> !notes | guest3
[19:28] <Flamey> oops, wrong window
[19:28] <acicula> ost: backup the sources.list, and merge it later?
[19:29] <guest3> there not linked from the download website
[19:29] <Zelozelos> it was better when it said heay (so n so) see my privat message
[19:29] <acicula> ost: also you can drop your own custom sources in the sources.list.d directory, sources.list is just(partially?) generated from there
[19:29] <EgYPaRaDoX> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
[19:29] <guest3> BUG: release notes not linked from Download Website
[19:29] <Dicker> Why was it important to emphasise the Long Term Support -> in the name of the OS? Isn't other distribs like rhel supported this long?
[19:30] <Ervis> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004
[19:30] <ojii> digitalstimulus, rebooting magically solved it
[19:30] <trism> Dicker: not every release of ubuntu is LTS, that's why it is in the names of the ones that are
[19:30] <guest3> Ervis: yes, but there is no link on the download website to the release notes
[19:30] <ost> acicula: I think I'll do it by hand
[19:30] <ost> thanks
[19:30] <EgYPaRaDoX> Dicker: exactly e.g jaunty or intrepid
[19:30] <Urda> hey kids, torrent up
[19:30] <Dicker> ok, thats the answer i was looking for. thanks.
[19:30] <abhijain>  rygar: i m downloading  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download is this not working in india  and cna u tell me what is alternative option ubuntu intaller windows . i m new user and first time trying fpor ubuntu
[19:30] <BonezAU> guest3, give it time, it takes a little while for everything to be updated
[19:31] <peppa_pig> happy birthday
[19:31] <peppa_pig> :)
[19:31] <guest3> BonezAU: oh, ok
[19:31] <blue_pearl> downloading....
[19:31] <blue_pearl> :)
[19:31] <peppa_pig> the number of users ftr
[19:31] <EgYPaRaDoX> abhijain: if your a new user I personally recommend wubi
[19:31] <BonezAU> abhijain, try this http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[19:31] <freaky[t]> 10.4 doesnt recognize my usb bluetooth keyboard :(
[19:32] <racecar56> tobiasgies: that looks like it might be able to handle full-blown ubuntu, however i'm not good with netbook remixes (i have never owned a netbook AFAIK)
[19:32] <bbordwell> abhijain, or use the torrent, the servers will have high load right now causing downloads to be slow or not work at all
[19:32] <racecar56> tobiasgies: extremely late answer
[19:32] <Dude28736> i am downloading the new ubuntu! i can't wait! :)
[19:32] <tobiasgies> racecar56: no problem :)
[19:32] <BonezAU> racecar56, i've always run full blown ubuntu on my acer aspire one... i hate the netbook remixes :)
[19:32] <zaraf> hello, just curious: is KMS supposed to work with 10.04 on radeon 5k ("evergreen") GPUs? (IIRC initial KMS support in upstream codebase was only up to 4k and support for evergreen was added later, that's why I am asking)
[19:32] <tobiasgies> I have already used a netbook remix on my nc10 once, I think it was 9.04
[19:32] <edakiri> Congratulations on the release!  I would like to suggest not serving the ISO images with most demand by FTP or HTTP initially: only P2P.
[19:32] <racecar56> tobiasgies: this computer i'm on has 1GB of RAM and it's running kubuntu
[19:33] <tobiasgies> however, back then, there was only one .img file to download, not two :)
[19:33] <Mike632T1> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004
[19:33] <BonezAU> ubuntu runs better on my netbook than windows xp home
[19:33] <BonezAU> which i guess it not really that hard :P
[19:33] <tobiasgies> I'm just not sure which one to grab.
[19:33] <abhijain> bbordwell: i completed 10% download  with http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-wubi  is this ok for me ??
[19:33] <racecar56> BonezAU: that makes sense
[19:33] <anodesni> Wubi 10.04 64 bit gives error on windows 7 64 bit "Error executing command: C:\Windows\sysnative\bcdedit.exe"
[19:33] <racecar56> tobiasgies: i don't know how good a N270 CPU is though but i'm guessing it might work well with full-blown ubuntu
[19:33] <BonezAU> unetbootin' to my usb drive now, getting ready to install 10.04 on the netbook :)
[19:34] <tobiasgies> racecar56 the nc10 has a 1.6ghz atom
[19:34] <Dicker> anyone running 1004 in vmware?
[19:34] <bbordwell> abhijain, That is for wubi, to install in windows, Is that what you want to do or do you want to have it on its own partition?
[19:34] <racecar56> tobiasgies: yes, i looked at the link you sent
[19:34] <tobiasgies> at least mine has :)
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> My older netbook runs the full ubuntu quite well.
[19:34] <thee> UBUNTU 10.04 IS HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> thee:  not for you. :)
[19:34] <BonezAU> wish i had a SSD but I went for the old school mechanical in the netbook
[19:34] <Rytis> agre
[19:35] <Rytis> e
[19:35] <ZykoticK9> Dicker, i believe there may be a problem with keyboard/mouse in VMWare -- works fine in VBox
[19:35] <racecar56> tobiasgies: i have a 1.6 GHz Celeron in another computer i have because i burned up the q6600 that came with it ;)
[19:35] <peppa_pig> !fr-translation
[19:35] <imagine7xy> Can someone help me set my CPU to performance instead of OnDemand please?
[19:35] <tobiasgies> ooooh, ouch
[19:35] <thee> Dr_Willis ... Why sir ???
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> thee:  you used too many upper case letters...
[19:35] <Eireocean> #ubuntu-release-party
[19:35] <Dude28736> i am downloading the new ubuntu! i can't wait! :) :)
[19:35] <blackxored> A quicker mirror for center-american country please
[19:35] <status0> hello all
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> If one wants quicker downloads. use the torrents.
[19:35] <BonezAU> blackxored, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[19:35]  * racecar56 wonders why pidgin is so crashy
[19:35] <tobiasgies> blackxored: use bittorrent, I got it downloaded in like 5 minutes :D
[19:35] <blackxored> BonezAU, thanks
[19:36] <Jordan_U> Gieke: Can you mount your windows partition?
[19:36] <blackxored> tobiasgies, Im updating my RC
[19:36] <thee> Dr_Willis: tr/[A-Z]/[a-z]/g
[19:36] <tobiasgies> oic
[19:36] <racecar56> tobiasgies: nice internet speed you have, it'd take more like 35 minutes for me :|
[19:36] <dugger5688> Took me 5 minutes too, torrent is always faster for me.
[19:36] <blackxored> tobiasgies, running lucid from alpha 4, be safe, I won't download isos till tomorrow
[19:36] <tobiasgies> racecar56: yup, I have a 50/2 line
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  i updated/upgraded last night. and dident have any updates this morning.
[19:36]  * racecar56 is seeding ubuntu 10.04 amd64
[19:36] <abhijain> bbordwell: yah i have already installed windows vista  and now in another drive i will   ubuntu . is this ubuntu working with windows grub . or after installation ubuntu need to install grub once again??
[19:36] <Gieke> yes jordan, i can
[19:36] <tobiasgies> bit shabby on the upload site, but I like the DL speed *g*
[19:36] <Gieke> and all the files are there
[19:36] <Gieke> gparted even marks it as a bootable partition
[19:36] <status0> i have a question. i want to upgrade 9.10 to 10.04. how do i do it - if i dont want to erase my file under /home and my /home isnt other partition
[19:36] <status0> ?
[19:36] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, didn't did I since yesterday, what do you mean then?
[19:36] <Jordan_U> Gieke: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[19:36] <Gieke> it's just gone from the grub menu
[19:36] <blackxored> status0, sudo update-manager
[19:37] <BonezAU> status0, run sudo update-manager -d from a terminal
[19:37] <racecar56> tobiasgies: i'm stuck with 400 KB/s that usually doesn't get as fast as it should get
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  i always update and upgrade my RC. the day befor release.. then just wait a week or so befor i bother updateing/upgrading again.
[19:37] <Gieke> /dev/sda1:Windows NT/2000/XP:Windows:chain
[19:37] <Gieke> /dev/sda2:Windows Recovery Environment (loader):Windows1:chain
[19:37] <Jordan_U> BonezAU: The -d isn't needed now that it's released
[19:37] <BonezAU> yeah true
[19:37] <racecar56> status0: it's easy to upgrade without wiping stuff
[19:37] <bbordwell> abhijain, it should already be working
[19:37] <blackxored> Gieke, please ask again, I think we fixed that already, at least they told me that
[19:37] <malev> ubuntu's wiki is down?
[19:37] <racecar56> status0: all you need to do is use update-manager
[19:37] <Jordan_U> Gieke: Then "sudo update-grub" should add windows entries automatically
[19:37] <thee> status0:  http://anakbawang.com/upgrading-to-ubuntu-10-04-lts-for-ubuntu-9-10-or-8-04-lts.html
[19:37]  * BonezAU is tired
[19:38]  * blackxored is happy a lot, but the connection is killing him
[19:38] <Gieke> it sayts
[19:38] <Gieke> says*
[19:38] <Gieke> found windows recovery environnement on /dev/sda2
[19:38] <blackxored> the ubuntu site
[19:38] <Gieke> but that should be a windows vista
[19:38] <Jordan_U> thee: It's better to link to official docs.
[19:38] <tobiasgies> racecar56: ouch, that ain't anywhere near species-appropriate for us geeks :D
[19:38] <Jordan_U> !upgrade status0 thee
[19:38] <blackxored> BonezAU, can you find me a link about the mirrors, there's no way I can access *anything* on the ubuntu site under that load right now
[19:38] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | status0 thee
[19:38] <xnox> I don't like that the old logo is on ubuntu.com in the top left corner =)
[19:38] <imagine7xy> How do I set my CPU to performance in Ubuntu?
[19:38] <xnox> i meant =)
[19:39] <xnox> i meant =(
[19:39] <BonezAU> blackxored, sure. where do you live?
[19:39] <xnox> can't type in the dark
[19:39] <FloodBot2> xnox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <racecar56> xnox: at least it isn't the one from 6.06 LTS ;)
[19:39] <blackxored> BonezAU, Cuba
[19:39] <status0> Yey !!! it's there ... and it's A-L-I-V-E !!!
[19:39] <imagine7xy> How do I set my CPU to performance in Ubuntu?
[19:39] <lucas12>  ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B238URN3 other are in upload
[19:39] <abhijain> bbordwell: means ubuntu10.4  working with windows  easily . and no need to install grub . ubuntu 10.4 is awesome if this problem is solved in new version
[19:39] <Gieke> Jordan_U, blackxored , is there any hope to get my windows back?
[19:39] <Gieke> i'll do reboot first
[19:39] <racecar56> tobiasgies: yeah it's pretty miserable sometimes, i want 1.5 MB/s... my upload speed is even worse; most of the time it's like 50 KB/s or something stupid like that
[19:39] <samuel_> ola alguien me esplica como va esto
[19:39] <blackxored> Gieke, if it detects the os, then sudo update-grub will do it
[19:39] <xnox> racecar56, I wasn't around. How did that look?
[19:40]  * xnox off to webarchive
[19:40] <geekphreak> !es > samuel_
[19:40] <imagine7xy> My CPU freq is at 100%
[19:40] <imagine7xy> is this bad??
[19:40] <racecar56> xnox: nor was i (i just have a copy of 6.06 around in my DLs) it was...quite different
[19:40] <imagine7xy> It says CPU scaling unsupported??
[19:40] <racecar56> xnox: still had the ubuntu guys but they looked different (same order though)
[19:40] <bbordwell> imagine7xy, cpu freq or cpu usage?
[19:40] <Xcell> imagine7xy-   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1027165.html
[19:40] <racecar56> imagine7xy: i get that on my acer comp when i hack the BIOS too much
[19:40] <xnox> racecar56, well there is ubuntu museum with VM's
[19:41] <thrope> im seeing a lot of memory used on a clean 10.4 install - nothing actuve (just ssh session) : http://pastebin.com/AFHKLRp9 any ideas what that might be?
[19:41] <racecar56> imagine7xy: either you need to reset the BIOS or if you don't remember fooling with it, then your CPU doesn't support scaling
[19:41] <the_eye_> memory usage is more complicated
[19:41] <imagine7xy> racecar, its pentium 4!!?!
[19:41] <erUSUL> !ram
[19:41] <the_eye_> dont compare just numbers
[19:41] <Fireking300> Is there any retailer that sells computer + multiple monitors for the purpose of multiseating?
[19:41] <racecar56> imagine7xy: that would be rather weird though, i don't believe i have seen any CPUs that don't support it
[19:42] <racecar56> imagine7xy: pentium 4 should be fine
[19:42] <imagine7xy> racecar56: Pentium 4 is mainline CPU
[19:42] <imagine7xy> racecar56: How do I set it to scaling?
[19:42] <imagine7xy> racecar56: please
[19:42] <mkhanyisi> My desktop folder disappeard, I might've deleted it unknowingly. Now all the contents of my home folder (~) are displayed on the "desktop".  I tried doing a "mkdir ~/Desktop" and restarted but that did not help.
[19:42] <imagine7xy> racecar56: It is just using 100% cpu and making my computer lag
[19:42] <thrope> the_eye_: I know - did you look at the plot? I am seeing about 1gb more used than I would expect (not including budders/cache
[19:42] <racecar56> imagine7xy: i have a pentium 4 around but idk how it works with scaling, AFAIR (as far as i can remember) it works but idk
[19:42] <status0> Becuse of you i can drink ARAK in the party !
[19:42] <racecar56> imagine7xy: typo'd a bit :|
[19:42] <imagine7xy> racecar56: It tells me CPU scaling is unsupported
[19:43] <racecar56> imagine7xy: anyway that CPU should be fine and you probably need to reset your BIOS settings
[19:43] <favila> Currently upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04... is it normal for your mouse and keyboard to become inoperable? it's been more than 15 minutes.
[19:43] <imagine7xy> racecar56: My Bios is terrible
[19:43] <imagine7xy> racecar56: Its like AWARD BIOS
[19:43] <imagine7xy> racecar56: or something
[19:43] <UbuntuNoob192> hi
[19:43] <racecar56> imagine7xy: my oldest comp has that i think
[19:43] <racecar56> imagine7xy: it works fine with my pentium 4
[19:43] <racecar56> imagine7xy: afair
[19:43] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  so are you having issues with it?
[19:43] <abhijain> Xcell: i m downloading ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-wubi . is this working with windows without grub loader problem
[19:43] <racecar56> imagine7xy: i think you need to reset it somehow
[19:44] <imagine7xy> racecar56: how do I change to Performance?
[19:44] <imagine7xy> racecar56: from ondemand?
[19:44] <minimec> favila: do you have any progress bar or % indicatioin that indicates activity?
[19:44] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, yes, I want the desktop folder back
[19:44] <racecar56> imagine7xy: i'm not sure :/
[19:44] <imagine7xy> racecar56: Or whatever? I'm still new to linux
[19:44] <peppa_pig> fire up the quatro
[19:44] <Jordan_U> favila: No, that is not normal. Can you try "ctrl+alt+F1" to get to a console? (ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X)
[19:44] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: you can add the cpu frequency applet to the panel and change it that way
[19:44] <lucifer_> gieke problem has been solved and posted on pastebin
[19:44] <Moiman> exit
[19:44] <Gieke> hey
[19:44] <Gieke> problem is solved
[19:44] <Gieke> can boot to windows again
[19:44] <UbuntuNoob192> I'm currently tryin to backup my system inorder to start anew but I'm running into memory issues(not enough of it)   so what is the best way of compressing my files to the smallest amount?
[19:44] <imagine7xy> bastid_raZor: I added cpu freq applet and there is no option
[19:44] <lucifer_> gieke problem has been solved and posted on pastebin
[19:44] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: or you can use cpufreq-set
[19:44] <Gieke> thanks lucifer, and all who helped me
[19:44] <imagine7xy> bastid_raZor: when I added it to panel, it said CPU scaling not supported
[19:45] <lucifer_> well come
[19:45] <imagine7xy> bastid_raZor: but I see other people using pentium 4 with scaling
[19:45] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: ah, you have issues i can not fix
[19:45] <Dicker> i/o error :(
[19:45] <masteredu> hi
[19:45] <lucifer_> i also edited ur paste post and answered it there
[19:45] <ubutom> hey, before lucid lynx i was able to drag windows to other desktop, using 4 virtual desktops, now it doesn't work, something to do with ati drivers?
[19:45] <acicula> imagine7xy: it just means it will run at max speed constantly
[19:45] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  can you open terminal ?
[19:45] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: cpufreq-info .. what information does this output?
[19:45] <favila> minimec, Jordan_U  I had a progress bar now my screen is black and it's been that way for sometime. I will try ctrl+alt+F7
[19:45] <ev0> http://i40.tinypic.com/2wnbl7a.jpg <<-This should work with proper packet forawding correct?
[19:45] <abhijain> i m downloading ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-wubi . is it  working with windows without grub loader problem. and it is ok for me as i am new user
[19:45] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, ok, I opened terminal, and then?
[19:46] <acicula> ev0: yeah
[19:46] <imagine7xy> I'm installing cpufreq-info
[19:46] <ubutom> hm, maybe i just have to relog into gdm
[19:46] <acicula> ev0: make sure it does bridge traffic though
[19:46] <minimec> favila: Jordan_U Could it be that the partition is full? No mire space ti save?
[19:46] <ev0> the ids/firewall?
[19:46] <acicula> yeah
[19:46] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  see Desktop there?
[19:46] <ev0> alright
[19:46] <Urda> !torrent
[19:47] <Urda> crap
[19:47] <acicula> ev0: you can simulate all this on one node
[19:47] <Urda> x64 Desktop torrent?
[19:47] <favila> minimec, I had 30 gigs before the upgrade
[19:47] <minimec> favila: ;)
[19:47] <dragon> Urda: can I help you?
[19:47] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, yes, its the one I created with mkdir ~/Desktop
[19:47] <Urda> dragon: lost the link to an x64 Ubuntu 10.04 torrent :s
[19:47] <Hans_Henrik> will update-manager ask me to continue after download? (i want to start download updates but not to apply any updates atm)
[19:47] <Carlis> hi
[19:47] <yellowroost924> hi, how can i tell whether i have a 32 bit or 64 bit system?
[19:47] <abhijain> i m downloading ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-wubi . is it  working with windows without grub loader problem. and it is ok for me as i am new user
[19:47] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, its not the original one
[19:47] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: that means you have 'performance' as the governor set now
[19:47] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  well you can try using something like gtweakui to set it up back
[19:47] <Jordan_U> abhijain: With wubi, Ubuntu will be installed to a file on your windows partition. So grub will be installed, but rather than replacing window's bootloader it will set itself up so that windows's bootloader loads it. This is just technical details though, you don't need to know anything more than how to install a normal windows applciation to install Ubuntu with wubi.
[19:47] <dragon> Urda: look for it here http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[19:47] <imagine7xy> bastid_raZor: why is my PC scrolling kind of laggy?
[19:48] <imagine7xy> bastid_raZor: Do I need to set something?
[19:48] <acicula> yellowroost924: by checking the hardware
[19:48] <Carlis> I know this is not the appropiated site to get hel on it
[19:48] <imagine7xy> bastid_raZor: My PC is kind of sucking right now on fresh install of Ubuntu
[19:48] <acicula> yellowroost924: are you running ubuntu already or do you want to install it
[19:48] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, , command not found
[19:48] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  you can download from synaptic
[19:48] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  you will have to download it first :)
[19:48] <yellowroost924> acicula: am running ubunt 9.10 32bit, but was thinking of doing a fresh install of 10.04.
[19:48] <acicula> yellowroost924: type cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[19:48] <Carlis> but may be someone know something about it
[19:49] <acicula> and pastebin the results
[19:49] <masteredu> who has problems with ubuntu?
[19:49] <Hans_Henrik> i do
[19:49] <minimec> favila: Hmm... How much space on the / partition. I guess the update-manager is using /var as folder to save. Maybe restart the system and delete the old deb archives with synaptics. Ubuntu is saving a copy of some installed deb packages in /var/chache or so
[19:49] <Urda> dragon: this is what I needed http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent thanks :)
[19:49] <Carlis> I have a blackberry Curve 8900 and I am trying to connect to the network of my office
[19:49] <yellowroost924> acicula: model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
[19:50] <yellowroost924> acicula: so i have 64 bit processor
[19:50] <minimec> favila: Synaptics gives you an option to delete these copies...
[19:50] <acicula> yellowroost924: correct
[19:50] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, I cant download gtweakui because apt-get thinks I am behind proxy and I use proxy at work
[19:50] <yellowroost924> is there any disadvantages to installing 64 bit ubuntu?
[19:50] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  great :)
[19:50] <acicula> yellowroost924: yeah its better, but most advantages are not really noticable by end users
[19:50] <Carlis> and I can´t i receive this message: A network error occurred. How can i fix this issue?
[19:50] <frankbro> Anyone having problems with intel drivers on netbooks? With atom processors ?
[19:50] <yellowroost924> for some reason i've always gone with 32 bit ubuntu on my 64 bit processor computer.
[19:50] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, great?
[19:50] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi:  let me think of another way 1 sec
[19:50] <yellowroost924> acicula: are there NO disadvantages to using 64 bit Ubuntu on 64bit computer?
[19:51] <Carlis> who can  help me ?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> yellowroost924: Certain proprietary applications may not run as well / be as easy to install.
[19:51] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: sounds like you need video drivers.
[19:51] <littlepenguin> what was the command to tell apt to look for dist upgrade?
[19:51] <littlepenguin> ok i answered myself
[19:51] <yellowroost924> Jordan_U: oh i see. like what applications?
[19:51] <imagine7xy> Bastard, I have the latest drivers
[19:51] <Carlis> who can  help me ?
[19:51] <dragon> !who | Carlis
[19:51] <Hans_Henrik> masteredu: this is my *only* problem with ubuntu, i have to sit on the router to get wlan range, also known as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8187se/+bug/416488 :p
[19:52] <acicula> yellowroost924: a few programs dont run very well in a 32bit environment, not even an emulated one. i havent had any problems with switching to 64bit though
[19:52] <msmooth> chogydan: i fixed it.. for some reason the install/setup GUI is in a resoultion my lCD monitor cant accept. had to use a very old CRT monitor to continue
[19:52] <Jordan_U> yellowroost924: 64 bit flash is less stable in 64 bit (unless you install and use 32 bit firefox, which is possible) and IIRC it's harder to run windows apps with wine in 64 bit.
[19:52] <dragon> Carlis: also, this is an Ubuntu support channel. You might want to try ##blackberry
[19:52] <littlepenguin> carlis whats the problem
[19:52] <favila> minimec,  okay I'll wait a bit more and see what happens. I really have no other choice right now other than pressing and holding the power button
[19:52] <Carlis> I have a blackberry Curve 8900 and I am trying to connect to the network of my office
[19:52] <ChogyDan> msmooth: well, that's a work around.  I would still file a bug
[19:52] <Carlis> and I can´t i receive this message: A network error occurred. How can i fix this issue?
[19:53] <kbar> what was that Carlis
[19:53] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: please don't PM.. keeping things in channel are more appropriate and gives others a chance to see a fix..
[19:53] <littlepenguin> carlis have you checked if the vpn host is available?
[19:53] <fdsa> anyone know openoffice macros... their irc room is dead
[19:53] <ChogyDan> msmooth: I know the video folks want to know about these things
[19:53] <yellowroost924> so who would find using 64bit ubuntu a better option then?
[19:53] <Jordan_U> yellowroost924: I don't personally use any applications that have problems with 64 bit except flash, and I don't have many problems even with flash.
[19:53] <minimec> favila: You can 'hold that button' right now .... The upgrade process will keep the downlodad packages in mind.
[19:53] <Carlis> It´s available
[19:53] <bastid_raZor> imagine7xy: also, choppy scrolling doesn't sound like a cpu issue.. more like a compiz/video driver issue. possibly disable compiz and see if the issues persist
[19:53] <ChogyDan> msmooth: I think you can run the command, ubuntu-bug xorg
[19:53] <yellowroost924> Jordan_U: how much faster is using 64bit ubuntu on a 64bit computer VS using 32bit ubuntu on 64bit computer?
[19:53] <favila> minimec, okay thanks
[19:54] <littlepenguin> 64bit advantage is adress more ram
[19:54] <Carlis> is the host ssd little ??
[19:54] <kbar> yellowroost924, only difference really is you can use more than 2GB of ram
[19:54] <BonezAU> loving the sexy new installer
[19:54] <markatto> no, 64 bit is actually faster on x86_64
[19:54] <markatto> it has more registers
[19:54] <UTF> eeek new installer crashes on boot
[19:54] <kbar> BonezAU, you mean the entire new UI
[19:54] <Fireking300> Anyone here use Ubuntu Multiseat?
[19:54] <skiwithpete> wassupwassup
[19:54] <markatto> but it uses slightly more ram
[19:55]  * Kin`Away_ ascolta Psycho Love degli Skid Row
[19:55] <markatto> Fireking300: does that even work? I've been waiting for multiseat to start working again for a while now
[19:55] <ToXedVirus> kbar its actually 3.2gb
[19:55] <ToXedVirus> and its faster
[19:55] <BonezAU> kbar, i'm still installing, have not had a chance to get down and dirty with that just yet, at first glance it looks good tho :)
[19:55] <LzrdKing> 32 bits can address 4GB of ram, not 2GB
[19:55] <Fireking300> markatto, whend it stop? O.o
[19:55] <Jordan_U> yellowroost924: It depends on the application, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1 gives some benchmarks for 9.10
[19:55] <ToXedVirus> Since the compilers optimize, I bet tarring and untarring is fater
[19:55] <skiwithpete> I installed 10.04RC, should I/do I need to reinstall from the final?  Or is update the same thing?
[19:55] <LzrdKing> but address lines are not processing lines
[19:55] <erUSUL> !final | skiwithpete
[19:55] <markatto> Fireking300: like a coupla years ago most solutions stopped working well
[19:55] <Fireking300> I saw a demo of 10.04 multiseat markatto
[19:55] <yellowroost924> kbar, i see. i have 1GB ram
[19:55] <Hans_Henrik> LzrdKing: more like 3.X (4?) gb of ram
[19:55] <littlepenguin> im just updating thorugh update manager..i have encrypted the whole disk and have some other things running..im interested if everything goes well..
[19:55] <mohawkboi> Hey everyone. Does anyone know of an easy way yo install a Logitech G25 in Ubuntu 9.10. I need to get it setup with FFB  PLease help as I am running out of hair to piull out.
[19:55] <kbar> yellowroost924, then get the 32bit
[19:56] <ToXedVirus> not bad, the apache 64bit  is godlike
[19:56] <markatto> Fireking300: there's a few commercial solutions that I know work, haven't seen it working without extra software though
[19:56] <markatto> Fireking300: feel free to inform me if you know differently :D
[19:56] <skiwithpete> cheers erUSUL
[19:56] <imagine7xy> Can someone tell me please why Setting Visual Effects to "None" makes windows very slow and choppy, but using CompizConfig makes it better, except scroll is slow and laggy?
[19:56] <ZykoticK9> littlepenguin, be sure to see the release notes - your encrypted partition MUST be in /etc/fstab
[19:56] <msmooth> link to file the bug please?
[19:56] <Fireking300> Well I don't know if the demo I saw used additional software.
[19:56] <Fullmoon> Is it sufficient to apt-get update, && apt-get upgrade for 10.04 beta -> 10.04?
[19:57] <msmooth> thanks
[19:57] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Fullmoon
[19:57] <erUSUL> Fullmoon: yes
[19:57] <IdleOne> !final | Fullmoon
[19:57] <erUSUL> !final > Fullmoon
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> msmooth, is your ubuntu working?  if it is use "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[19:57] <littlepenguin> yes zykotic it is as an lvm mount
[19:57] <MikeChelen> imagine7xy: what video card and which drivers enabled?
[19:57] <Usagiakumu> http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=4&url=www.ubuntu.com woot the new Ubuntu is released
[19:57] <markatto> Fireking300: there's a company that has a commercial solution, i think it involves a modified X server. The last distro that I saw zaphod mode really working on was fedora 8 i think
[19:57] <john_dee> can anyone actually see release files on releases.ubuntu.com?
[19:57] <Fullmoon> Great!
[19:57] <Fullmoon> The bot is bothersome, though
[19:57] <^paradox^> im about to upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 lts and have questions about three things noted in the release.
[19:57] <Jordan_U> Fullmoon: Not the bots fault, it was mine for misreading your question :)
[19:57] <Usagiakumu> I love the new website theme
[19:57] <C-S-B> woot, its here
[19:58] <ToXedVirus> Hm, too bad the x264 encoding performance is just slightly better
[19:58] <minimec> mohawkboi: Ubuntu 10.04 brings a different style of usb recognition... no HAL anymore. Also there is a new xorg version wich might support your device better than 9.10. I f you can... Upgrade your system to 10.04
[19:58] <ToXedVirus> they could have done a better job
[19:58] <^paradox^> release notes*
[19:58] <l0de> Hi, I'm having a problem with installing ubuntu on my mackson turret V3. The rounds are not ejecting correctly and the motion tracking is a bit off, any other turret users here?
[19:58] <mohawkboi> Thanks Minimec. I am off to go do that now :-)
[19:58] <Pici> l0de: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <l0de> I'm using the ethernet port, not the usb
[19:59] <equity> l0de: freebsd is actually a better operating system for turrets
[19:59] <Usagiakumu> http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=4&url=www.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <Jordan_U> Fireking300: http://www.multiseatcomputer.be/multiseat-products.html And there are probably others.
[19:59] <MikeChelen> !final | Fullmoon
[19:59] <l0de> I think the mackson only supports ubuntu, gentoo, and redhat
[19:59] <l0de> what turret are you using
[19:59] <equity> oh i see
[19:59] <frxstrem> is installing Ubuntu 10.4 Beta  and then installing all the updates the same as just installing the final version?
[19:59] <equity> its a custom built turret
[19:59] <icom> hi
[20:00] <equity> running freebsd
[20:00] <l0de> Oh cool, what do you have on yours?
[20:00] <ZykoticK9> !final > frxstrem
[20:00] <kbar> freebsd is for pros
[20:00] <IdleOne> frxstrem: yes
[20:00] <elnur> I boot with 10.04, ubuntu is loading, and then I see grabled graphics. And nothing else is happening. Anyone knows what's that?
[20:00] <icom> guys i have problem with skyep installing in ubuntu
[20:00] <Limey_Packet> Just wondering, is it ok to run a download accenerator to get ubuntu faster?
[20:00] <equity> but if mackson only supports linux that wont help you
[20:00] <Limey_Packet> accelerator*
[20:00] <markatto> ToXedVirus: note that a newer x264 will likely produce a higher quality video, aside from encoding time
[20:00] <MPP> I read that the 10 version of ubuntu coming out soon
[20:00] <xnox> Limey_Packet, pick a closer mirror or use torrents. it will be faster than accelerators
[20:00] <IdleOne> Limey_Packet: it sorta like cheating imho
[20:00] <l0de> ya, I don't really know much about freebsd and the mackson has the face recognition thing
[20:00] <dk> IS IT OUT YET?
[20:00] <^paradox^> ok so first about having to manually update grub if one chooses to use ext. is that still an issue?
[20:00] <dk> HAHA
[20:00] <Subby> MPP: it is out
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Limey_Packet: No, it's not fair to other users. Try the torrent instead, it's blazing.
[20:01] <obiwan_> dk, !isitout xD
[20:01] <MPP> not the beta version
[20:01] <^paradox^> ext4 sorry
[20:01] <obiwan_> !isitout
[20:01] <equity> l0de: oh nice how much cash did you drop on it?
[20:01] <obiwan_> lol xd
[20:01] <Mallen_> Is it ok to install Ubuntu on the same drive as Windows (when windows was the first OS on the drive and the whole drive was partitioned at that installation time)
[20:01] <Limey_Packet> What I mean is will I get in trouble from doing it?
[20:01] <elnur> After live CD is loaded, I see Windows desktop screenshot grabbled. WTF?
[20:01] <obiwan_> yeaaaaaaaaaaaah let's party it's out
[20:01] <l0de> equity, a lot, lol
[20:01] <Hans_Henrik> elnur: had same problem, tried with a little bit older kernel and got it working, but aint in the mood to investigate the issue :p
[20:01] <obiwan_> beer for everybody (cola for kids) yeaah
[20:01] <Urda> x64 torrent isn't blazing at this time ... holding steady at 90KBS, burst to 200 now and then
[20:01] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: Only if you are using grub-legacy.
[20:01] <Zed`> wheee installing 10.04
[20:01] <rocky> what are the amd64 iso's like for core2 duo's these days? i remember old 64bit builds use to have issues with stuff like flash
[20:01] <LogicalDash> Limey_Packet, if I'm not mistaken the server just won't give you multiple threads. Download Accelerator won't work.
[20:01] <sam204475> oh my god!!!! this 10.04 download is SO SLOW!
[20:01] <elnur> Hans_Henrik, how can I choose another kernel?
[20:01] <l0de> probably $6k on the chassis, then $3k on the guns and the retrofitting kit, another $2k on the webcam and sensor package
[20:01] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ...is amd64 CD installable on intel 64-bit ?
[20:02] <elnur> sam204475, choose another mirror
[20:02] <Subby> sam204475: use torrent!
[20:02] <plum> sam204475: how slow?
[20:02] <LogicalDash> sam204475, torrent! torrent! torrent!
[20:02] <Hans_Henrik> elnur: well.. normally by the bootloader on restart
[20:02] <Urda> cobra-the-joker: yesh
[20:02] <Jordan_U> cobra-the-joker: Yes
[20:02] <sam204475> im using torrent~!~~~
[20:02] <obiwan_> i'm waiting for the minimal 64 lucid, the 32 bit is out yet, but not the 64 :S so bad :(
[20:02] <MPP> someone already managed to install wireless driver atheros brand in ubuntu
[20:02] <cobra-the-joker> nice ..ok
[20:02] <ddelony> Everybody else is trying to upgrade. Be patient.
[20:02] <equity> oh thats  a pretty good price for the features
[20:02] <Schmidt_> hi everyone! i have a small problem: I'm trying to boot from 10.04 Netbook Remix LIVE CD, but it asks for LOGIN and PASSWORD , what can you advise? THANKS
[20:02] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: so i wont have to worry about installing a new grub?
[20:02] <Subby> sam204475: then you ard doing sth wrong :)
[20:02] <sam204475> its like 45kbps
[20:02] <imagine7xy> Why does my computer behave in a way where I MUST use CompizConfig for the windows to not be laggy when dragged? But if I set it to "None" and not Custom in Appearance it is very slow?
[20:02] <Urda> obiwan_: what is the diff for minimal?
[20:02] <Limey_Packet> It's woroking for me with an accelerator. I am just wondering, will I get in trouble for doing so?
[20:02] <equity> are you using for home defence or what
[20:02] <Limey_Packet> working*
[20:02] <Schmidt_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJa_0Tq4-0
[20:02] <l0de> I've got it hooked up to the remote unit though, real nice, have speakers give an audible "whoop" so I know it's off when I go back there
[20:02] <dk> 64BIT IS NOT OUT YET?
[20:02] <sam204475> Subby    click to download
[20:02] <MPP> compiz is cool
[20:02] <dk> HAH
[20:02] <sam204475> i click .~?
[20:02] <Schmidt_>  hi everyone! i have a small problem: I'm trying to boot from 10.04 Netbook Remix LIVE CD, but it asks for LOGIN and PASSWORD , what can you advise? THANKS
[20:02] <l0de> How many rounds per minute does your turret do?
[20:02] <sam204475> schmidt
[20:02] <Subby> dk: it is
[20:02] <sam204475> put any password in
[20:03] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: What version of Ubuntu do you have? And is it an upgrade from 9.04 or earlier?
[20:03] <sam204475> 10.04 HURRY UP~~~~~!!
[20:03] <Schmidt_> sam204475 i dit it , but authorization failed
[20:03] <ZykoticK9> Schmidt_, try "ubuntu" as username and no password
[20:03] <l0de> also are you having problems with it killing a lot of rabbits\groundhogs etc
[20:03] <dk> HURRY UP BEFORE THEY START CHARGING
[20:03] <imagine7xy> Why does my computer behave in a way where I MUST use CompizConfig for the windows to not be laggy when dragged? But if I set it to "None" and not Custom in Appearance it is very slow?
[20:03] <equity> last test got up to around 3500-4000
[20:03] <JarrettV> if I am installing virtual machine, should I use alternate?
[20:03] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: ill be upgrading from 8.04 lts
[20:03] <Schmidt_> Tryed ubuntu with no pass
[20:03] <ddelony> Update manager can't upgrade to 10.04 on any mirror at all.
[20:03] <l0de> seems like there's an issue with it not correctly identiying things too small to shoot
[20:04] <equity> you think ubuntu causes that problem?
[20:04] <UTF> any of u guys had trouble running the 10.04 installer?
[20:04] <ddelony> I think next release they should queue all the downloads.
[20:04] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: Then Yes, you will need to use grub-install manually before converting to ext4.
[20:04] <Mallen_> UTF: Yes
[20:04] <Schmidt_> Is it a bug? I thought , that authorizayion to LIVE Cd should be auto?
[20:04] <l0de> equity- no, well I have ubuntu on it now
[20:04] <l0de> but I got a weird error on install
[20:04] <Legendario> can someone explain me what are the 2 other lucid unr images available at releases.ubuntu.com: marvel dove and freescale?
[20:04] <l0de> and the tracking is messed up compared to the old gentoo install (which kept crashing)
[20:05] <wad> Where can I get a torrent file for the 32-bit server edition of 10.04?
[20:05] <UTF> Mallen_, hehe ok - cause mine crashes at boot "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error."
[20:05] <equity> oh i see
[20:05] <l0de> The mackson guys aren't in the shop yet (on jap time)
[20:05] <theAdib> UTF: on my system I have to "ACPI=off" if not it does not boot
[20:05] <Subby> wad: ubuntu.com
[20:05] <theAdib> 9.10 is fine
[20:05] <plum> hahahahahahahahah 30 kb/s
[20:05] <equity> other than those errors would you say the turret is worth the price though?
[20:05] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: so i do after ive the 10.04 upgrade?
[20:05] <UTF> theAdib, ah ok - i'm gunna try that then
[20:05] <imagine7xy> Ubuntu says Frequency Scaling Unsupported
[20:05] <imagine7xy> How do you fix??
[20:06] <littlepenguin> 780 mb need to be updated
[20:06] <hsn> !release party
[20:06] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: Yes
[20:06] <wad> @Subby: No, I checked. I just checked again. There are no torrent files there that I can find. It just asks me to download the image directly, but that's horribly slow.
[20:07] <acicula> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[20:07]  * Fireking300 wishes canonical would make ubunbu commercials.
[20:07] <acicula> you can find the torrent files in the list below
[20:07] <yellowroost924> that's funny: torrent is finished but transmission shows some download still. weird.
[20:07] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: am i asked during the upgrade or after the upgrade to switch to ext4?
[20:07] <acicula> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent for example
[20:07]  * wad looks for the torrent files some more
[20:07] <H0Li> i see i'm not the only one whit laggy scrolling
[20:07] <llutz> wad: http://my.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/
[20:07] <plum> ~100kb/s
[20:08] <plum> :D
[20:08] <alket> Howcome the upload speed is much bigger of download speed in torrent download ?
[20:08] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: Upgrade, then use grub-install, then switch to ext4
[20:08] <Urda> aaannnnnddd http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent for 64bit acicula
[20:08] <alket> torrent downloading is very slow
[20:08] <ouned> @H0li: are you using fglrx?
[20:08] <Urda> alket: yes
[20:08] <oddeyed> Hi, if I'm installing from something with grub-legacy will it automagically update for me?
[20:08] <acicula> Urda: im seeding them, but thanx for telling me anyway
[20:08] <oddeyed> *updating
[20:08] <alket> Urda: why
[20:08] <kbar> it should once you get in oddeyed
[20:08] <Urda> acicula: It was more or less for the channel :)
[20:08] <Limey_Packet> What speeds are you people using the torrent getting?
[20:08] <H0Li> ouned: a what ?
[20:08] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: how do i switch to ext4? is it a menu option or done from the command line or...?
[20:08] <Urda> acicula, my 64bit is almost ready to seed
[20:09] <oddeyed> kbar: Cos I'm updating from 9.10 which was 9.04 which was before grub2
[20:09] <wad> Ah, thanks guys. I got the torrent file.
[20:09] <kbar> but if you don't get that bug then you shouldnt have any problems with the legacy grub oddeyed
[20:09] <Urda> Limey_Packet: 500 down, 200 up now
[20:09] <Jordan_U> oddeyed: I'm not sure what you mean. Can you clarify the situation a bit more?
[20:09] <ouned> H0Li: are you using a ati card with the official driver?
[20:09] <Schmidt_> Is anybody booted from New Netbook Remix?
[20:09] <H0Li> ouned: i have nVidia card
[20:09] <kbar> Jordan_U, he's referring to the grub bug that doesn't recognize any other boot options
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> ^paradox^, you'd need to reformat the partition!  you can't upgrade ext2/3 to ext4.
[20:09] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[20:09] <oddeyed> kbar: No, sorry I've been unclear.
[20:09] <duffydack> Where are the md5 hashes for 10.04 ? not on the usual page
[20:09] <Limey_Packet> I'm getting between 400 and 500 kb/s using the download accelerator.
[20:09] <ouned> H0Li: Did you install the nvidia drivers?
[20:09] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: You are wrong
[20:09] <drewww> With the text-only alternate installer, how do I drop down to a shell? I don't precisely need to "rescue a broken system", I just want a shell so I can mount a drive and mess with some stuff on it.
[20:09] <H0Li> and in 9.10 everything was just fine, but in 10.04 scrolling is kinda laggy
[20:10] <H0Li> yes i did
[20:10] <mewshi> can someone help me choose a good backup system?
[20:10] <oddeyed> kbar Jordan_U: I have the old grub on my laptop, and was wondering if when I install it will automagically install the NEW grub.
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, looks that way!  thanks, did not know that was possible.  good to know.
[20:10] <oddeyed> mewshi: back in time
[20:10] <hsn> mewshi: TSM
[20:10] <solarkennedy> drewww: does alt-f2 or similar give you an alternate terminal?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: You're welcome
[20:10] <kbar> that I do not know oddeyed
[20:10] <sometux> Ubuntu 10.4 LTS Released !
[20:10] <ouned> for me everything was laggy in 9.10 and in 10.04 everything is perfectly right
[20:10] <H0Li> checked all 3, with the same result
[20:10] <sebsebseb> ^paradox^:  The default file system for clean installs is Ext4 as of 9.10, but  if you are on say 8.04 and then upgrade to 10.04, by default you would still have Ext3.
[20:10] <drewww> solarkennedy: tried that, no luck :/
[20:10] <sometux> Ubuntu 10.4 LTS Released !
[20:10] <mewshi> I need it to support keeping multiple (time-stamped) copies of files, however.
[20:10] <sometux> Ubuntu 10.4 LTS Released !
[20:10] <Jordan_U> oddeyed: No, you will not be automatically upgraded to grub2.
[20:10] <chaoflux> anyone have any idea what would be the best way to remotely access my mp3 collection on my desktop from an android phone?
[20:10] <oddeyed> Jordan_U: is there a path to get it?
[20:10] <Schmidt_> who installed Netbook Remix 10.04? I NEED HELP )
[20:10] <solarkennedy> drewww: I think that will only work past a certain point in the installer
[20:11] <^paradox^> ZykoticK9: dude its just a question. chill
[20:11] <_blackwater_> chaoflux with usb cable
[20:11] <LogicalDash> !help > Schmidt_
[20:11] <chaoflux> i used to use simplifymedia on my mac w/ iphone, no idea what the equivalent is for ubuntu and android phone
[20:11] <drewww> solarkennedy: do you know what "rescue a broken system" does? might that get me where I want to be?
[20:11] <solarkennedy> drewww: I don't know what that will give you with the new one, haven't tried it
[20:11] <oddeyed> Schmidt_: I can't help you, but I want you to know that I know someone who's surname is Shmidt :)
[20:11] <Jordan_U> oddeyed: If you want to install grub2 run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc" ( I recommend doing this after you have upgraded to 10.04 rather than before)
[20:11] <kbar> drewww, you can exec shell commands and such
[20:11] <jo_> are repos slow?
[20:12] <rohan> is there _any_ mirror which does *not* redirect me? i am trying to update my ISO using zsync, and it always fails saying "bad response 302".
[20:12] <solarkennedy> drewww: but it will probably give you a choice to get a root shell
[20:12] <oddeyed> Jordan_U: Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.
[20:12] <chaoflux> i mean i want to access my music collection on my desktop over 3g while like riding around in my car lol
[20:12]  * oddeyed will be right back :)
[20:12] <drewww> kbar: it's not going to do anything to mess with my drives or anything, right?
[20:12] <Jordan_U> oddeyed: You're welcome.
[20:12] <reportingsjr> jo_: repos indeed seem to be slow
[20:12] <jo_> yah
[20:12] <kbar> drewww, no
[20:12] <Schmidt_> what Login and Password i need to boot live cd (Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix LTS) ???
[20:12] <drewww> kbar: I'm just scared of the name - I just want a shell, not any fancy auto-recovery
[20:12] <sometux> How to upgrade karmic to lucid from Live CD?
[20:12] <ouned> I installed ubuntu with only 100 GB for it. Can i change the size of the partition?
[20:12] <Legendario> can someone explain me what are the 2 other lucid unr images available at releases.ubuntu.com: marvel dove and freescale?
[20:12] <mewshi> What's a good backup system that supports keeping multiple copies of a file, so that a corrupted file is NOT propagated through the backup system, wiping out good copies?
[20:12] <kbar> drewww, yes its the farthest thing from auto-recovery, especially if u use the CLI
[20:12] <reportingsjr> jo_: I got 1/3 of the way through 9.10 to 10.04 upgrade in a few minutes before it pooped out.
[20:12] <Hans_Henrik> ouned: gparted for example :P
[20:13] <sebsebseb> ouned: that's a good size for / if you have a seperate /home partition
[20:13] <hsn> mewshi: tivoli storage manager
[20:13] <Schmidt_> what Login and Password i need to boot live cd (Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix LTS) ???
[20:13] <sebsebseb> ouned: or hardly put anything in to Home
[20:13] <sebsebseb> !home | ouned
[20:13] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: im gonna read that. brb
[20:13] <sometux> How to upgrade karmic to lucid from Live CD?
[20:13] <MikeChelen> drewww: there is a menu to choose root console, root console with networking, and some others
[20:13] <drewww> kbar: okay, i'll try that. thanks!
[20:13] <DJones> sometux: You can't upgrade using the desktop cd, only from the alternate cd.  They use different types of file systems which is why you can't upgrade from the livecd
[20:13] <kbar> sometux, read the website you can upgrade using the package manager
[20:13] <acicula> sometux: boot karmic and start the upgrade
[20:13] <Sh4wn> Hi, guys, I'm trying to install 10.04 on a quite old Laptop (~4 years old), but the live cd doesn't work. After displaying the purple ubuntu loading screen with the red dots for a while, it changes to a blackscreen and does nothing anymore. The 9.10 live cd does work.. Anyone knows why?
 i installed from cd a few bugs but ok now get stuff from repos but really slow
[20:13] <ouned> okey thank you all i will try that
[20:13] <Jordan_U> drewww: "recover a broken system" starts a chroot. I seem to remember that pressing escape led to many options, one of which was to get to a shell.
[20:14] <theloser_> sometux: just insert the cd, and the update-manager should recognize it as a new release...
[20:14] <Limey_Packet> what torrent client should I use if I were to download the ubuntu torrent?
[20:14] <Schmidt_> what Login and Password i need to boot live cd (Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix LTS) ???
[20:14] <sebsebseb> Sh4wn: could be to do with the graphics card, or RAM
[20:14] <MikeChelen> Sh4wn: try the alternate install cd instead
[20:14] <UTF> Sh4wn, i have the same problem
[20:14] <reportingsjr> Limey_Packet: any client you want.  I use rtorrent.
[20:14] <hsn> Limey_Packet: utorrent
[20:14] <sebsebseb> Sh4wn: how much RAM?
[20:14] <ouned> is there also a way to completly remove windows? I dont even need it anymore so
[20:14] <acicula> Schmidt_: it doesnt have one
[20:14] <oddeyed> Schmidt: You shouldn't need to but I'd suggest "ubuntu" and "ubuntu"
[20:14] <Sh4wn> uhh 256 MB
[20:14] <sebsebseb> ouned: of course
[20:14] <IdleOne> theloser: Live CD does not upgrade
[20:14] <Sh4wn> not much I know
[20:14] <Sh4wn> xD
[20:14] <Limey_Packet> Are these torrent clients legal?
[20:14] <UTF> Sh4wn, mine displays an error first tho
[20:14] <reportingsjr> Limey_Packet: haha, yes.
[20:14] <mewshi> hsn, how do I install that?
[20:14] <Limey_Packet> Lol, good.
[20:14] <sebsebseb> ouned: just delete the partition yourself or  on the guided  use entire hard disk option on the 10.04 Live CD
[20:14] <Sh4wn> UTF hmm here it doesn't display anything
[20:15] <reportingsjr> ouned: you can delete the windows partition and resize your ubuntu partition to the whole disk.
[20:15] <oddeyed> ouned: yeah, just erase the windows partition using gparted on the live CD and then expand the ubuntu partition.
[20:15] <sebsebseb> ouned: and I assume any data from the Windows partition, you already have else where, if there is something
[20:15] <Hans_Henrik> Sh4wn: well.. idk what the problem is (the new graphic drivers in the new kernels i suppose), but 9.04 can upgrade from upgrade-menu
[20:15] <Hans_Henrik> update-manager*
[20:15] <deposito> Hi! I have un installed dosemu and now re installed but it does not work. The freedos folder that is inside dosemu is empty. I try to un install freedos and re install it and nothing.How can I fix it?
[20:15] <Schmidt_> what Login and Password i need to boot live cd (Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix LTS) ???   Empty fields and "ubuntu" "ubuntu" don't help
[20:15] <theloser> IdleOne: oops, sorry, didn't know that...
[20:15] <imagine7xy> Damn, how do I change a file that is read only??
[20:15] <jgcampbell300> If I type in sudo apt-get upgrade will it reinstall everything back to default ? ... if not is there a command to do that
[20:15] <UTF> Sh4wn, i have just been told to try to run it using acpi=off - i'm trying that now
[20:15] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there a list of alternate servers yet? So I can try to get a faster download?
[20:15] <imagine7xy> It says I dont own file
[20:15] <acicula> Schmidt_: where are you getting a prompt?
[20:15] <reportingsjr> Schmidt_: there should not be a password for the live CD
[20:15] <sudo-su> help with inkscape?
[20:16] <sebsebseb> !details | sudo-su
[20:16] <weekly> hey guys, quick question. Is there a way to monitor smb users that are attached to my server? "w" doesnt show them "ps" and "ps -e" arent any help, in "top" i can see smb processes shooting off but it isnt much help... what the better way?
[20:16] <reportingsjr> sudo-su: might be best to go to inkscape's channel.
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[20:16] <LinuxGuy2009> sudo-su: Inkscape not saving files correctly?
[20:16] <eBryggis> I've a silly question. I made the USB Startup disk using builin Ubuntu utility, but it keeps booting my old Ubuntu installation. How do I choose for it to start the USB. (changed in bios)
[20:16] <kbar> Schmidt_, are you asking for the sudo password?  there should not be one. did you get the iso from the official repository?
[20:16] <ouned> okey very nice thanks. So i dont need to reinstall linux
[20:16] <alket> Who has installed Ubuntu 10.04 x64 ?
[20:16] <sudo-su> nop
[20:16] <Sh4wn> Hans_Henrik yeah thought it would be a good idea for a clean install, but update-manager time then.
[20:16] <LinuxGuy2009> sudo-su: Its a known issue.
[20:16] <reportingsjr> ouned: not at all.
[20:16] <sudo-su> inkscape can't join trayect
[20:16] <rohan> chica: :P
[20:16] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: ok since im not great with the more techinical things id rather not screw around with my partition and possibly make my computer unusable. so would it be ok to just stick with ext3?
[20:16] <Schmidt_> kbar, yes it's from official repo
[20:16] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yeah hi
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Ouned: I have
[20:16] <sudo-su> of logo of ubuntu :(
[20:16] <bastid_raZor> ActionParsnip: you missed all the action today.
[20:16] <Sh4wn> UTF how to pass those options when booting the live cd?
[20:16] <chica> rohan: :P
[20:16] <edakiri> wad: 32 bit torrent you wanted?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/ubuntu-10.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[20:17] <UTF> Sh4wn, when the splash screen shows hit enter
[20:17] <kbar> Schmidt_, are you trying to root or do you just need to sudo
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Alket: I use 64bit 10.04
[20:17] <geekphreak> bastid_raZor: morning
[20:17] <sudo-su> someone use inkscape?
[20:17] <UTF> Sh4wn, then hit F6 to use other boot methods
[20:17] <bastid_raZor> geekphreak: afternoon
[20:17] <Daughain> How smoothly have the 10.04 upgrades been goin? Anything like the 9.10 upgrades?
[20:17] <sometux> I've heared that Bill Gates will give Ubuntu 10.4 a try, is this true?
[20:17] <LinuxGuy2009> sudo-su: I use Inkscape
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> bastid_raZor: what action. The release happened at 6;30pm here
[20:17] <Hans_Henrik> jgcampbell300: well system->synaptic package manager , can mark all installed packages for "re-install" :p
[20:17] <sudo-su> have problem with the logo of ubuntu LinuxGuy2009
[20:17] <alket> ActionParsnip: Is it faster than x86 and will there be problems with installing debs ?
[20:17] <sudo-su> ?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Sometux: that's offtopic here
[20:17] <UTF> lol now i get (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file sytem
[20:17] <LinuxGuy2009> sudo-su: Whats your question?
[20:18] <ukixx> hallo ppl do any one how to update "libgdata" 4 the youtube player in movie player
[20:18] <sudo-su> LinuxGuy2009, i cant join the letters of "ubuntu"
[20:18] <Sh4wn> UTF ubuntu splash screen or mother board splash screen?
[20:18] <weekly> hey guys, quick question. Is there a way to monitor smb users that are attached to my server? "w" doesnt show them "ps" and "ps -e" arent any help, in "top" i can see smb processes shooting off but it isnt much help... whats a better way to see connected smb users?
[20:18] <BrokenTrace> anyone else get the "could not calculate the upgrade" when switching from 9.10 to 10.04?
[20:18] <LinuxGuy2009> sudo-su: group function not working?
[20:18] <UTF> Sh4wn, ubuntu splash screen
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Alket: its not faster, but can address more ram. Video and audio transforms will benefit too
[20:18] <sudo-su> to asign the colour
[20:18] <Schmidt_> kbar, I downloaded my .iso from torrent.ubuntu.com and it ASKS for password to boot live CD
[20:18] <sometux> ActionParsnip: true of false?
[20:18] <sudo-su> yes but i need join
[20:18] <oddeyed> If I upgrade via apt, will gwibber automatically install?
[20:18] <erUSUL> weekly: see connection to the port the service usas
[20:18] <geekphreak> weekly: ss command?
[20:18] <kbar> Schmidt_, it shouldn't.  It may be the password to your bios?
[20:18] <sudo-su> :S
[20:18] <sometux> ActionParsnip: just kidding
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Sometux: go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that. Its not discussed here
[20:19] <LinuxGuy2009> sudo-su: If you have found a bug "ubuntu-bug inkscape"
[20:19] <alket> ActionParsnip: Does it have problems and which are known for x86 ?
[20:19] <sudo-su> want you try? LinuxGuy2009
[20:19] <kbar> Schmidt_, use http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[20:19] <CaptainLucid> so.  Now that lucid is out, you offer support here?
[20:19] <UTF> anyone had this error? (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file sytem
[20:19] <BrokenTrace> also how can i tell what is preventing a clean upgrade??
[20:19] <LinuxGuy2009> sudo-su:  No I do not right now.
[20:19] <kbar> yes CaptainLucid
[20:19] <coolman> whats the channel for release party ?
[20:19] <sudo-su> ok sorry LinuxGuy2009
[20:19] <CaptainLucid> kbar: can I direct upgrade from 9.04 to Lucid?
[20:19] <geekphreak> coolman: #ubuntu-release-party
[20:19] <Ravenatic> HUrrmmm.. Ubuntu One isnt having fun.... Cant log in.. sits there waiting for login.ubuntu.com :(
[20:20] <LinuxGuy2009> coolman: release party is over. Lucid is here
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Alket: should have the same bugs yes.
[20:20] <weekly> erUSUL, geekphreak: ill try those, thanks
[20:20] <lucas12> I have mu e hf links if you need /w me
[20:20] <coro> Hi. Can anyone do me a huge favour and run an md5 checksum of the 10.04 desktop iso?
[20:20] <acicula> BrokenTrace: you get some kind of error?
[20:20] <ratcheer> CaptainLucid: To the best of my understanding, no.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Ravenatic: can you ping login.ubuntu.com
[20:20] <sudo-su> LinuxGuy2009, where are you from?
[20:20] <acicula> coro: md5sums are posted in the release directory
[20:20] <LinuxGuy2009> coro: Do you need an md5sum to compare with?
[20:20] <coro> yeah, couldn't find one on the site
[20:20] <BrokenTrace> acicula: "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[20:20] <kbar> CaptainLucid, you should. its on ubuntu.com
[20:20] <Pici> ActionParsnip, its having issues currently, Canonical is workig on it.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Ravenatic: it may also be slow due to the release
[20:20] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: its just i really dont think i should try it
[20:21] <Schmidt_> kbar, No :) i'm not stupid it has been booting for a 13 minutes on my notebook like normal live cd. It has a "Log in' button
[20:21] <acicula> BrokenTrace: how are you upgrading
[20:21] <LinuxGuy2009> coro: 1 sec
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Pici: figured. Cheers :)
[20:21] <xdrazen> holas!
[20:21] <Ravenatic> ActionParsnip: yes, but sitting there its just very slow then eventually says my ticket or whatever is wrong... so its timing out before i can even log in lol
[20:21] <vasandgvd> coro: d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8
[20:21] <Calcarine> coro: d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c8  ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[20:21] <imagine7xy> How can I run as ROOT all the time?"?
[20:21] <CaptainLucid> kbar: so it can direct upgrade? without any issues
[20:21] <oddeyed> Captain_Lucid: Open update-manager and find out!
[20:21] <coro> awesome, thanks vasandgvd, CaptainLucid
[20:21] <xomp> hello, how can I tell if Grub is installed?
[20:21] <BrokenTrace> acicula: via the upgrade manager on the desktop
[20:21] <geekphreak> imagine7xy: not recommnded
[20:21] <imagine7xy> I'm tired of typing sudo then password
[20:21] <coro> er.. Calcarine
[20:21] <ddrj> got a question, i have /swap/ and /home/ and also / <---- i was wondering if i reformatted ubuntu, would it delete everything in the / folder or /home/ ?
[20:21] <Urda> hey everybody
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Imagine7xy: sudo -I will give a root terminal
[20:21] <Urda> 10.04 :d
[20:21] <eBryggis> I just created a USB boot discs of Ubuntu installation iso from RC version. When I restart the computer my system still boots up the old installation. I have changed my boot priorities. And it boots on my windows computers. Do I need to do something more?
[20:21] <oddeyed> xomp if it's on then grub is installed.
[20:21] <Urda> :D
[20:21] <xdrazen> holas=?!
[20:21] <LinuxGuy2009> coro: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ (first file)
[20:21] <imagine7xy> geekphreak, it won't let me change file permissions
[20:21] <nomasteryoda> imagine7xy, not good idea...
[20:21] <acicula> BrokenTrace: whats your current ubuntu version?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Imagine7xy: sudo -i ,sorry
[20:21] <geekphreak> imagine7xy: use sudo
[20:21] <abhijain> i m new user and confues with netbook remix
[20:22] <nomasteryoda> imagine7xy, but you could also use "sudo -s"
[20:22] <BrokenTrace> acicula: 9.10
[20:22] <CaptainLucid> nah, it wants me to upgrade to 9.10 first :(
[20:22] <oddeyed> abhijain: what is your problem
[20:22] <LinuxGuy2009> md5sums http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/MD5SUMS
[20:22] <imagine7xy> geekphreak: I need to do it via right clicking file then changing permissions
[20:22] <xomp> oddeyed: well I installed ubuntu to my external USB HDD but it won't boot so I'm on the Live CD now and need a way to verify if Grub is installed and if so, where?
[20:22] <acicula> any funky repositories?
[20:22] <imagine7xy> geekphreak: it wont let me
[20:22] <oddeyed> it'll be in /boot/grub
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: yep that's normal. You must upgrade through each realese
[20:22] <BrokenTrace> acicula: maybe one or two PPA's
[20:22] <ddrj> ANYONE HERE have a Geforce 210 video card ?????????
[20:22] <acicula> try disabling those and try again
[20:22] <ratcheer> CaptainLucid: I tried to tell you.
[20:22] <xomp> oddeyed: can GParted show this?
[20:22] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: I assume the possiblity of things going wrong is increased?
[20:22] <oddeyed> xomp: it'll be in /boot/grub
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Acicula: depends what you want
[20:23] <oddeyed> no
[20:23] <BrokenTrace> tnx acicula
[20:23] <CaptainLucid> ratcheer: didnt see your message
[20:23] <CaptainLucid> xD
[20:23] <agliodbs> well, now printing is working for any small document.  but if I try to print anything over 100K, it just aborts
[20:23] <LinuxGuy2009> ddrj: ask your real question?
[20:23] <imagine7xy> geekphreak: How do I change the file permissions without using terminal??
[20:23] <oddeyed> xomp: hang on 1 second, i'm gonna look
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: if you lepfrog yes. Its also not advised and not supported
[20:23] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: yeah, i thought so
[20:23] <acicula> ActionParsnip: im fine with my repositories
[20:23] <xomp> oddeyed: ok, I checked /boot/grub and it's there
[20:23] <geekphreak> imagine7xy: right click properties?
[20:23] <jgcampbell300> how would i reset everything in ubuntu 9.10 back to default from command line
[20:23] <CaptainLucid> yet most of my data is stored on the drive...
[20:23] <CaptainLucid> >.<
[20:23] <imagine7xy> geekphreak: DONE, it won't let me
[20:23] <oddeyed> xomp: on the live cd or on the hard drive?
[20:23] <imagine7xy> geekphreak: It says I dont have permision lol
[20:23] <ddrj> LinuxGuy2009: i'm having problems getting audio over hdmi to work with my geforce 210 video card. i followed this guide but my video card's not showing up in alsamixer: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210,_GT220,_or_GT240
[20:24] <coolman> ATI stopped upgarding lagacy drivers still ??
[20:24] <CaptainLucid> i guess i'll just install it separately
[20:24] <vasandgvd> LTS 10.04 - I can't use the keyboard to login from GDM. In tty it works perfectly.
[20:24] <xomp> oddeyed: I'm looking at the 40Gb external HDD
[20:24] <oddeyed> CaptainLucid: Have you updated before? It takes less time than you think...
[20:24] <oddeyed> xomp: then that should be fine :)
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Ddrj: add the nvidia vpau ppa and run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 ,you will get the 195 driver and be fine
[20:24] <CaptainLucid> oddeyed: if its not supported, i'm not upgrading
[20:24] <jo_> gawd these repos are slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[20:24] <CaptainLucid> xD
[20:24] <jdtm> i cant get the new release to install =[
[20:24] <jdtm> it just hangs at that purple screen with the keboard = circle thing
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Jgcampbell: delete all the gconf foldes in $HOME
[20:25] <oddeyed> CaptainLucid: You'll have to research this yourself cos I'm off to partition and install now, but I think there is a way to upgrade directly via the LiveCD.
[20:25] <ddrj> ActionParsnip: woahhhhhhhh thanks man, let me try that, btw it's sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-195 right ?
[20:25] <ratcheer> jdtm: Try the Enter key
[20:25] <oddeyed> CaptainLucid: Look into it.
[20:25] <jgcampbell300> thanks
[20:25] <oddeyed> I'm off now, wish me luck!
[20:25] <CaptainLucid> oddeyed: i hope so, because I dont want to leapfrog xD
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> !slow | jo_
[20:25] <Vigo> CaptainLucid: I think you should go 9.04>9.10 then 10.04, maybe the alt-f2 would help.
[20:25] <ddrj> ActionParsnip: because i just installed the propeitary drivers when i installed the video card..
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Ddrj: nope 185
[20:25] <ddrj> ahhhh ok ty ty
[20:25] <^paradox^> ok anyone else? if i upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 and dont wanna screw around with grub and maybe make my computer my unusable would be ok to stick with ext3?
[20:25] <CaptainLucid> Vigo: i'm not in the mood to leapfrog, many more things can go wrong
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Ddrj: its weird but works
[20:25] <alexandru_> hi, I've just downloaded the 10.04 image, and I don't have a CD ... can I use my pendrive as a CD to install Ubuntu? If so, how?
[20:26] <jo_> will try
[20:26] <ddrj> ty ActionParsnip, let me check for the ppa's
[20:26] <jpds> !unetbootin | alexandru_
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> ^paradox^: ext3 is fine
[20:26] <rohan> alexandru_: yes, using unetbootin (google for it)
[20:26] <jdtm> ahh there it goes
[20:26] <ratcheer> CaptainLucid: It would take a very long time, too.
[20:26] <jdtm> whats up with that anyways?
[20:26] <CaptainLucid> Actually, is it possible to make a persistent partition on a USB drive to make it work?
[20:26] <Vigo> CaptainLucid: I understand,
[20:26] <CaptainLucid> i've not had success, hence my asking
[20:26] <LinuxGuy2009> !unetbootin | alexandru_
[20:26] <rambb2> worst distro ever
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: make sure you md5 test you iso
[20:26] <duffydack> I thought you could just 'dd' the iso now... from 9.10 onwards
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Rambb2: don't use it then
[20:27] <^paradox^> ActionParsnip: im dont consider myself anyone who should attempt something like that
[20:27] <LinuxGuy2009> !md5sum
[20:27] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: i did with 9.04, it still wouldn't stay persistent
[20:27] <rambb2> ofc not using it
[20:27] <deposito> I need some help with this please! :)
[20:27] <deposito> Hi! I have un installed dosemu and now re installed but it does not work. The freedos folder that is inside dosemu is empty. I try to un install freedos and re install it and nothing.How can I fix it?
[20:27] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: couldnt I just load 10.04 onto a 16Gb thumb drive as an opsys?
[20:27] <CaptainLucid> and make it bootable?
[20:27] <remyo> Does anyone have 10.04 working smoothly in virutalbox?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: burn the iso and boot to it, you can then tell the installer to install to usb
[20:28] <CaptainLucid> so thats a yes.  thanks!
[20:28] <LinuxGuy2009> remyo: Yes it runs fine in Vbox for me.
[20:28] <acicula> remyo: you have a problem with it, or just wondering if it will work?
[20:28] <rambb2> i tried the alpha on virtualbox, why remyo?
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> remyo, what OS are you using as host?  I have Lucid guests running fine on a Lucid host - OSE version.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: there's also an app to put the cd onto usb under windows
[20:28] <nny> wow wtf
[20:28] <nny> this is LTS?
[20:28] <remyo> acicula: Just wondering if it will work. I'm using OS X as host
[20:28] <mahisastra> who is upgrading ubuntu?
[20:28] <mahisastra> who has?
[20:28] <acicula> remyo: it'll work
[20:28] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: i'm on a Ubu 9.04 system xD
[20:28] <Gadwil> nny, yes, Lucid is LTS.
[20:29] <mahisastra> already?
[20:29] <remyo> acicula: I remember when one of the 9's came out there were some issues
[20:29] <CaptainLucid> i dont want to risk upgrading xD
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Nny: yes 10.04 is LTS
[20:29] <jcbv> cant upgrade after downloading updates first says could not download release notes
[20:29] <remyo> LinuxGuy2009: Guest addons and all?
[20:29] <rohan> ActionParsnip: apart from unetbootin, there is no official app; the usb-creator.exe program is not included on the CDs any more
[20:29] <rambb2> CaptainLucid use wine
[20:29] <ratcheer> mahisastra: I did, about 3 weeks ago.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: then use the usb-creator-gtk app
[20:29] <acicula> remyo: i havent had problems with running the rc in a vm
[20:29] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: Yes, there is no problem with sticking to ext3.
[20:29] <jdtm> now when i hit enter on install it freezes again =[
[20:29] <mahisastra> any on ethere?
[20:29] <dsterne> mahisastra: I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, worked great
[20:29] <remyo> acicula: Sweet, thanks
[20:29] <mahisastra> hello
[20:29] <LinuxGuy2009> !anyone | mahisastra
[20:29] <nny> ok so I can't connect to a samba share that worked yesterday, (i have it bookmarked) i get a dbus timeout error, and now I have been trying to connect to #ubuntu with empathy only to have it crash over and over, quite the crapfest
[20:29] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: i don't want it to run the cd image off the drive xD
[20:29] <ratcheer> mahisastra: Hello. We are answering you.
[20:30] <nny> I am updating some packages now, but ubuntu is turning into damn windows ME at this rate
[20:30] <datacrusher> can i simply dist upgrade my 9.04 to lucid?
[20:30] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: ok i just wanted to make there wouldnt be any incompatibilities or itd break something ya know
[20:30] <Gadwil> nny, What OS were you on? Did you do a clean install or upgrade?
[20:30] <Pici> datacrusher: No, you need to upgrade to 9.10 first.
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: you won't the usb-creator-gtk will put the image on usb for you. You won't be booting lucid until you use the usb
[20:30] <arand> datacrusher: in steps yes
[20:30] <andreligne_> Hello! Anywho who can help me with my USB-speaker? It worked fine after a fresh install, but after one reboot it wont play my music any longer :( anyone got an idea? :)
[20:30] <nny> Gadwii clean install
[20:30] <ratcheer> datacrusher: No
[20:30] <LinuxGuy2009> nny: Thats cause everyone is downloading today. Be patient
[20:30] <Limey_Packet> Ubuntu torrent is being slow, what do I do?
[20:30] <nny> er Gadwil*
[20:30] <bastid_raZor> datacrusher: yes, from 9.04.to 9.10 to 10.04
[20:30] <TEpic> Anyone get their 10.04 installed yet?
[20:30] <datacrusher> well, iv already gone to 9.10
[20:30] <Karwan> Could not download the release notes
[20:30] <nny> LinuxGuy2009: what?
[20:30] <Gadwil> nny, I have also been having issues with Samba and Windows 7.  I think it is Win 7 though.
[20:30] <nny> LinuxGuy2009: so everyone downloading today is breaking my samba share?
[20:30] <datacrusher> just forgot
[20:31] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: doesn't that create a copy of the CD image?  i'm not in the mood to do that, i'd rather install it to the USB drive as the actual opsys...
[20:31] <Pici> !upgrade
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Limey_packet: it will speed up over time
[20:31] <LinuxGuy2009> !anyone | TEpic
[20:31] <jcbv> i got the release notes things too servers are jammed i bet
[20:31] <ratcheer> datacrusher: Ok, then yes
[20:31] <nny> Gadwil: this is a samba server, works fine everywhere else and on other nix machines
[20:31] <jdtm> it freezes when i select install =[
[20:31] <Gadwil> nny, Then search around and see if anyone else is having the issue and has found a work-around or fix.
[20:31] <Hans_Henrik> what should i use for flash support (open source or not isn't an issue)
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: yes it will be like the cd on usb and will make you a casper-rw to save junk to
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> !flash | hans_henrik
[20:32] <nny> Gadwil: work around is mount in fstab with smbfs, which doesn't seem to obey the same permissions as the samba share presetns with smb.conf
[20:32] <jcbv> anyone getting flash on ppc
[20:32] <Gadwil> nny, Then I guess we wait for a proper fix to packages.
[20:32] <nny> i am just trying to get my damn work done, and ubuntu is determined to be an attention whore
[20:32] <datacrusher> ratcheer, is there a simple command? or i must change my repos
[20:32] <dupondje> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ => this is a fast mirror :)
[20:32] <ddrj> ActionParsnip: weird... i added the ppa's and then tried to install the 185 drivers but it looks like 185 was already installed when i used ubuntu's search for hardware drivers feature
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Jcbv: you need gnash or swfdec for ppc flash
[20:33] <guntbert> !language | nny
[20:33] <nny> yeah you should hear what I am saying out loud if you think that is vulgar
[20:33] <A71KR117> I installed the lucid rc. Do I need to upgrade to the final?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Ddrj: have you rebooted since installing the drivers?
[20:33] <ddrj> ActionParsnip: yah, many times when i'm messing with alsa
[20:33] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: for the next thing, what about the nvidia driver issue? i have an nvidia geforce 6200 agp card, its a little $100 deal pfff, and wanted to know if thats still an issue?
[20:33] <jcbv> yeah none of those work i thought movie player could play them guess not
[20:33] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: not available in Synaptic, I've got usb-creator tho
[20:33] <acicula> nny: then disconnect and vent your frustriations and then come back?
[20:33] <geekphreak> take care folks
[20:33] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, Thank you very much
[20:33] <LukeL> is it possible to use session 1 of a dvd for a ubuntu install cd, and then use session 2 for other data?
[20:33] <bastid_raZor> geekphreak: good night
[20:33] <geekphreak> mkhanyisi: it worked?
[20:33] <LinuxGuy2009> !patience | nny
[20:33] <__dantheman> if you installed the rc, you should just have to run te update manager and you should be good
[20:33] <jcbv> still cant download release notes check intenret connection
[20:33] <mkhanyisi> geekphreak, yes!!
[20:33] <ddrj> ActionParsnip: it's weird, alsamixer doesn't recognize my card, it did ONCE but never since then... following this guide: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210,_GT220,_or_GT240
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> A71kr117: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will do it
[20:34] <geekphreak> bastid_raZor:  nite bud
[20:34] <blindmind___> bot help offctopic
[20:34] <geekphreak> goodnight all
[20:34] <andreligne_> Hello! Anywho who can help me with my USB-speaker? It worked fine after a fresh install, but after one reboot it wont play my music any longer :( help please? :)
[20:34] <nny> jeez thanks Linuxguy!!!111
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Captainlucid: go with that then ;)
[20:34] <Karwan> "Could not download the release notes" Grrrr!
[20:34] <Pici> !notes | Karwan
[20:34] <Limey_Packet> Torrent is still really slow, why won't it speed up?!
[20:34]  * nny hits Linuxguy2009 with a cluestick
[20:34] <Karwan> Yeah, but my upgrade stops there
[20:34] <CaptainLucid> ActionParsnip: thats what i've done, its had issues with it in past tho
[20:34] <Pici> Karwan: oh :(
[20:34] <blindmind___> can anyone point me towards the offtopi channel? thanks
[20:35] <Karwan> Pici: :-( indeed
[20:35] <jcbv> 4 kb a second damn u damubutnu
[20:35] <A71KR117> ActionParsnip: I ran the 2nd one and it just said 0 to upgrade, 0 to keep, etc. . .
[20:35] <nny> !whydoesubuntucontinuetobethebaneoflinuxdistros
[20:35] <spikebike> Limey_Packet: use vuze or other clients that use a DHT
[20:35] <ZykoticK9> !ot > blindmind___
[20:35] <Jordan_U> ^paradox^: I don't know much about nvidia but usually they are well supported.
[20:35] <guntbert> nny: please stop that behaviour
[20:35] <LinuxGuy2009> nny: Keep it up
[20:35] <Pici> Karwan: Probably just overloaded, you may want to try later.
[20:35] <blindmind___> thanks ZykoticK9
[20:35] <dacs> i have question that is confusing me in permissions!
[20:35] <Karwan> Pici: yeah, will do that
[20:35] <nny> ban me tough guy, i could give a crap
[20:35] <nny> i hate ubuntu
[20:35] <jo_> anyone havin probs with flash on 64bit version?
[20:35] <jetole> Hey guys. I am testing out 10.04 in a vm and at the same time trying evolution for the first time in the 10.04 in the VM. I use IMAP to connect to my mail servers which means all messages are always in sync from any client. If I delete a message on one computer it's deleted on all computers etc. Inside evolution, I am finding it's not showing all my mail messages that I can see inside thunderbird on my main system. For example, while looking in one folder, ...
[20:35] <LinuxGuy2009> ask | dacs
[20:35] <acicula> nny: then why come here to ask for help
[20:36] <jetole> ... it seems to be skipping a lot of messages that it shows i.e. it shows one, skips a bunch, shows another, skips a bunch etc. Does anyone know what causes this?
[20:36] <^paradox^> Jordan_U: im using a propietary driver right now.
[20:36] <nny> I haven't, just complaining atm
[20:36] <acicula> nny: this is not the complaint channel
[20:36] <LinuxGuy2009>  jetole: it?
[20:36] <nny> ahh which one is that?
[20:36] <jetole> LinuxGuy2009: evolution
[20:36] <pure_hate> nny, /join #iamadouchebag
[20:36] <LinuxGuy2009> nny: #trolls channel
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Limey_packet: its young. It will speed up with time
[20:37] <nny> hmm ok pure_hate, cute name!
[20:37] <dacs> my system have 2 users, user1 is my sudo user, user2 is regular user...if i add user1 to user2 group shouldn't i be able to create files and folders
[20:37] <nasrullah> hi
[20:37] <ARTSIOM> Hi All! I am using ubuntu server 10.04 beta
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> A71kr117: then the versions you have of the debs match the versions on the release
[20:37] <stodorovic> the trolls are cool
[20:37] <LinuxGuy2009> jetole: Only app that seems to do that so far?
[20:37] <ratcheer> Man, this channel is going fast!
[20:37] <nny> so let me get this proper, I can come in here and gush about Ubuntu, but if I criticize the fact that a clean install done yesterday behaves poorly, I am a troll?
[20:37] <ARTSIOM> will it auto-upgrade to release?
[20:37] <jcbv> whats the command to upgrade from terminal
[20:37] <Pici> !final | ARTSIOM
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Artsiom: yes
[20:38] <guntbert> nny: if you don't have a support question and cannot provide answers then please stay silent here
[20:38] <LinuxGuy2009> !offtopic
[20:38] <Karwan> "Could not download the release notes" Grrrr!
[20:38] <nny> guntbert: hmm I did
[20:38] <ratcheer> jcbv: update-manager -d
[20:38] <jcbv> whats the terminal command to upgrade
[20:38] <Zed`> gotta say, 10.04 is pretty sweet
[20:38] <pure_hate> Someone kick or ban this idiot
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Artsiom: any prerelease will seamlessly upgrade to the released version as it uses the same repos
[20:38] <nny> wait kick me, you're calling me names
[20:38] <guntbert> pure_hate: thats uncalled for
[20:38] <nny> nice
[20:38] <__dantheman> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:38] <acicula> jcbv: do-release-upgrade
[20:38] <ARTSIOM> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[20:39] <nasrullah> i have lucid lynx beta on my pc  ..how to upgrade it to the the release one
[20:39] <andreligne_> Hello! Anywho who can help me with my USB-speaker? It worked fine after a fresh install, but after one reboot it wont play my music any longer. help please? :)
[20:39] <Pici> !final > nasrullah
[20:39] <irv> is there a command that will tell me how many mb of ram are in the system?
[20:39] <acicula> free -m
[20:39] <irv> thx
[20:39] <pure_hate> free
[20:39] <guntbert> nny: venting your anger *here* doesn't help at all -- what was your question?
[20:39] <Hebram>  !final > Hebram
[20:39] <jcbv> that didnt work
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Nny: you can't "gush" here #ubuntu-offtopic is for that. This is pure support only
[20:39] <scott_ino2> nasrullah, just keep doing the updates and you'll end up with it
[20:39] <Capt_Blackwood> Torrent's are loaded just as heavily...
[20:39] <LinuxGuy2009> nasrullah: Install all updates and you already have teh release.
[20:39] <jo_> any help to get flash working on 10.04 64b ??? apt gives error..
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Irv: free -m
[20:40] <jdtm> the install cd wont work >=[
[20:40] <thevishy> flash works on my lucid
[20:40] <__dantheman> jo_: go to the adobe website and download the 64bit linux prerelease of 10.0
[20:40] <nny> let me try again, since all I can do is ask. Why would 1.) empathy crash constantly along with telepathy when trying to join #ubuntu and 2.) why would this error appear when I am trying to connect to a samba share that worked yesterday. Note the bookmark is correct, have tried directly with nautlius. Error is DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[20:40] <scott_ino2> jo_, yes via restricted-extras installation my flash works
[20:40] <LinuxGuy2009> Yeah 10.04 LTS is proving to be quite popular, please be patient with downloads, updates, and torrents folks. ;)
[20:40] <jetole> ok, does anyone know another room where I can ask about evolution then?
[20:40] <mickster04> lol, ubuntu release server is down, does someone have a link to the i386 torrent plz?
[20:40] <jo_> will try rest extras
[20:41] <imagine7xy> Can someone please tell me why Visual Effects would be really slow when set to None?
[20:41] <Pici> mickster04: http://torrents.ubuntu.com:6969
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Jo_: can you please use: http://pastebin.com to give the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[20:41] <mickster04> thanks Pici
[20:41] <xzenon> I have an issue with 10.04 that has started with the upgrade from the last alpha to the first beta.... I think it's related to new xorg code
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> !torrents > mickster04
[20:41] <guntbert> nny: appearantly no one here has experienced those issues - what makes you think that they are related?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Jo_: if there is zero output just say
[20:41] <nny> guntbert I dont
[20:41] <LinuxGuy2009> nny: If you feel you have come accross a bug, you can begin solving it by opening a terminal and "ubuntu-bug <package-name>"
[20:42] <mickster04> ZykoticK9: i just said that site was down
[20:42] <ouned> hi. so i made my windows partition smaller now i have 200 GB free space, worked fine, but it seems like i cant add this space to my ubuntu partition
[20:42] <nny> guntbert I really care about the samba issue, the empathy crashing when trying to join ubuntu was just bad irony
[20:42] <jo_> ok one sec
[20:42] <t-rev> hi
[20:42] <xzenon> basically, the issue is, I have a laptop, when I have a second monitor plugged in and my laptop screen up, at boot the second screen is fuzzy (wavy?)
[20:42] <^paradox^> ok the final question i guess ill just ask to the whole room. about sun java being moved to the partner repository, i have sun java 6 the web start and control panel and i have openjdk 6 web start. can i expect any problems with java after the upgrade to 10.04?
[20:42] <jcbv> can u upgrade from cd
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> mickster04, sorry man - just remembered seeing the direct torrent links.  Down here too :(
[20:42] <t-rev> new to ubuntu
[20:42] <jdtm> the install cd refuses to work. when i select install, it just freezes.
[20:43] <LinuxGuy2009> ouned: ubuntu partition is not mounted correct?
[20:43] <nny> sadly dbus errors happen with 90% of app errors, so googling for the specific error is like asking a blind man for directions
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Nny: log some bugs is all I can suggest. Try launching the apps from terminal and you may get clues
[20:43] <spikebike> any mirror should have the torrents
[20:43] <xzenon> if I keep the laptop screen closed at boot up, the second monitor works great
[20:43] <mewshi> ouned, you can't resize a partition while you're using it >.>
[20:43] <spikebike> just use a client that can use a DHT because the ubuntu tracker is broken
[20:43] <LinuxGuy2009> xzenon: Bad VGA cable?
[20:43] <ouned> mewhi: umm i knew it xD do i need to use a live cd?
[20:43] <jcbv> i had to download like 4 times just to get a good one
[20:43] <LzrdKing> !lucid
[20:43] <steven78> bonjour , je suis un nouveau linux :) et je cherche quelqun pour une petite aide
[20:43] <nny> ActionParsnip: don't think nautilus will run in term
[20:43] <xzenon> LinuxGuy2009: no, because if I keep the laptop screen closed on boot up, it works just fine
[20:43] <imagine7xy> How can you tell which fglrx driver you are using?
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> !fr | stevecam
[20:44] <guntbert> nny: then it will be easier to keep with one problem at a time -- I understand your samba concern -- where I cannot help much - maybe a few questions: what changed in your system (remote and local) since the samba connection worked last?
[20:44] <LinuxGuy2009> xzenon: Perhaps its being set to an unsupported resolution or refresh rate.
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> steven78, ^^
[20:44] <jcbv> anyone running yet with an old nvidia card like tnt 2
[20:44] <xzenon> LinuxGuy2009: I believe that is it, but I'm not sure how to fix that
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Nny: no but you can launch it and get output when it crashes. Nautilus will act as normal
[20:44] <xzenon> if I put the laptop to sleep, same issue happens if I come back from being asleep with the second monitor plugged in
[20:44] <mickster04> ZykoticK9: back up
[20:45] <nny> guntbert no changes I am aware of, worked two days ago, doesn't work today. error is vague, X11 auth
[20:45] <andreligne_> Hello! Anywho who can help me with my USB-speaker? It worked fine after a fresh install, but after one reboot it wont play any sound! anyone who could try to help me? :)
[20:45] <opticon> with samba if using local accounts dont forget you have to run smbchgpass set passwords on accounts exactly the same as they are locally
[20:45] <nny> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[20:45] <nny> terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[20:45] <xzenon> I was hopping it was just an issue with the beta release, but now that I'm at the RC/final, it's still an issue
[20:45] <ZykoticK9> mickster04, back up?
[20:45] <LinuxGuy2009> xzenon: Have you checked System->Admin->Hardware Drivers to see if there are any proprietay drivers that need to be installed possibly?
[20:45] <acicula> jcbv: /clear
[20:45] <imagine7xy> Can someone please help me set up my Ubuntu so graphics aren't so slow???
[20:45] <acicula> err nvm ignore that jcbv
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Jcbv: I have a system with one but its headless. It will be supported by nouveau
[20:45] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: what kind of graphics card do you have
[20:45] <imagine7xy> __dantheman: I am using ATI Radeon HD 3450
[20:45] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: What version of Java are you using, now?
[20:46] <jdtm> ugh
[20:46] <imagine7xy> __dantheman: I have installed the drivers correctly from their website,
[20:46] <imagine7xy> __dantheman: As far as I know
[20:46] <xzenon> LinuxGuy2009: I'm running that now
[20:46] <guntbert> nny: (I'm no good with samba, so just trying to find a hint): how do you try to open that samba connection?
[20:46] <^paradox^> ratcheer: ill take a look
[20:46] <ZykoticK9> mickster04, oh the site - i gotcha (i'm a little slow today for some reason)
[20:46] <LinuxGuy2009> imagine7xy: What video card do you have?
[20:46] <imagine7xy> LinuxGuy2009: ATI Radeon HD 3450
[20:46] <wildbat_10_40> image7xy, go to ATI and download the latest driver~
[20:46] <xzenon> LinuxGuy2009: it worked out of the box with the alpha release
[20:46] <imagine7xy> wildbat_10_40: DONE THAT
[20:46] <reportingsjr> anyone know the aptitude command to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 instead of using the update manager?
[20:46] <nny> guntbert a bookmark that translates into user@//IPADDRESS/share
[20:46] <nasrullah> i am doing the update and upgrade thus now
[20:47] <nny> guntbert the bookmark should tell nautilus to perform that action, i am drilling down now
[20:47] <xodx> I'm trying to change my kernel to the realtime kernel in grub but when i reboot my grub menu does not appear. grub automatically selects the generic kernel without allowing me to intervene. how to i get grub to where it shows me the boot menu?
[20:47] <ZykoticK9> xodx, hold down the SHIFT key
[20:47] <xzenon> LinuxGuy2009: I'm installing the proprietary drivers now, though I was hoping to just use what was out of the box
[20:47] <rohan> is there _any_ mirror which does *not* redirect me? i am trying to update my ISO using zsync, and it always fails saying "bad response 302".
[20:47] <imagine7xy> Someone please help me
[20:47] <Taz> Hello, I want to inquire about updating to Lynx from Karmic, will this update the booting and everything too or should I reinstall everything from scratch?
[20:47] <xodx> ZykoticK9: thanks, i'll try that now
[20:47] <LinuxGuy2009> imagine7xy: Perhaps restate your question to something like "ATI Radeon HD 3450 second display is fuzzy/waving/etc." You know what I mean.
[20:48] <acicula> reportingsjr: do-release-upgrade
[20:48] <imagine7xy> LinuxGuy2009: OKAY, I will give you the whole scoop, I will message you so its easier
[20:48] <reportingsjr> Taz: it will update all programs that need updating from 9.10 to 10.04, but you will keep your personal files and settings.
[20:48] <reportingsjr> acicula: thank you
[20:48] <guntbert> nny: with nautilus??  ouch -- I remember a similar issue long time ago, -- could it be that you started nautilus with root permissions?
[20:48] <Taz> Excellent, thank you
[20:48] <^paradox^> ratcheer: im not sure how to find out. the windows for sun java 6 and openjdk 6 dont have about in the drop down menus
[20:48] <reportingsjr> acicula: the trick is, will it actually work?!
[20:48] <nny> guntbert: don't think so, it is started in my home folder, and grepping ps -aux shows nautilus as my user
[20:48] <acicula> reportingsjr: why wouldnt it
[20:48] <LinuxGuy2009> In here is fine. Others may have the same issue and benefit from seeing our discussion
[20:48] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: Use java -version
[20:49] <Pici> reportingsjr: That is the supported method of upgrading via the terminal.
[20:49] <acicula> reportingsjr: making backups is always prudent
[20:49] <jdtm> okay, so im guessing it wont work if i use a cd-rw.
[20:49] <ZykoticK9> For those running 10.04 already -- in Nautilus hit F3 to get a dual-pane window (cool new feature)
[20:49] <^paradox^> ratcheer: ok ill get it brb
[20:49] <Andorin> Yo, guys, on Lucid, is there any way to move the window border buttons (close, minimize, maximize) back to the right side without just using a different theme? I want to use Dust but it has them on the left, like Ambiance.
[20:49] <acicula> jdtm: cd-rw for what?
[20:49] <nasrullah> in xubuntu how to install empathy
[20:49] <ZykoticK9> !controls | Andorin
[20:49] <jdtm> i burned the iso onto a cd-rw
[20:49] <acicula> nasrullah: via the package manager
[20:49] <jdtm> im all out of cd-r's
[20:49] <zebastian_> Help, i have the following situation, i have a somewhat small hard drive, i'm on my laptop, i have hardy installed on dual boot with windows 7, I have been running low on the 7 ntfs partition, how can i shrink a bit the hardy partition and extend the ntfs partition without causing any major havoc? much appreciated
[20:50] <nasrullah> ok
[20:50] <acicula> jdtm: unless you burned it on a different burner and use an archaic drive to read it in that should not make a difference
[20:50] <ratcheer> jdtm: And it fit?
[20:50] <SeiFi> hi
[20:50] <^paradox^> ratcheer: heres the output. java version "1.6.0_17"
[20:50] <^paradox^> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_17-b04)
[20:50] <^paradox^> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
[20:50] <guntbert> nny: no, I meant more like "once during the last days" - because that could mess up local config files -- please can you create another user (or even try the guest user) and see if it works there?
[20:50] <acicula> jdtm: you can run a cd check at boot to make sure its correctly burned
[20:50] <pure_hate> zebastian, that is best done with a boot disk with something like acronis disk director
[20:50] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: what is the output from lsmod | grep fglrx
[20:50] <BrokenTrace> acicula: I removed all the PPAs and it will still not upgrade. is there a error log that will tell me what is crashing it otut?
[20:50] <jdtm> thats the problem acicula
[20:50] <nasrullah> lucid beta was working well ...hope the release one do the best work for me
[20:51] <Andorin> Great, thank you, ZykoticK9
[20:51] <jdtm> nothing in the menu will work.
[20:51] <irv> how can i configure my swap partition to automatically swapon
[20:51] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: That is way out of date. You need to upgrade to update 20
[20:51] <Sir_Leto> I'm trying to install disk-manager on Lucid, but it needs, python 2.5, which is only and no longer available in the repositories. Is there anyway to get disk-manager installed?
[20:51] <acicula> BrokenTrace: err if there is it should be in /var/log/
[20:51] <nny> guntbert: roger
[20:51] <bastid_raZor> !swap | irv follow the guide
[20:51] <SeiFi> i installed 10.04, had the netbook remix before and now i see a desktop with the files and directorys on it and at the top an empty gray bar without anything on it
[20:51] <imagine7xy> lsmod | grep fglrx
[20:51] <imagine7xy> fglrx                2092908  29
[20:51] <imagine7xy> agpgart                31724  2 intel_agp,fglrx
[20:51] <SeiFi> i jus did an update with the updatemanager
[20:51] <imagine7xy> PLEASE message me
[20:51] <SeiFi> erm upgrade
[20:51] <imagine7xy> so I can keep track of our CONVO
[20:51] <guntbert> !enter | imagine7xy
[20:52] <edbian> Where can I get help using latex??
[20:52] <jdtm> would it work with a dvd-r?
[20:52] <LinuxGuy2009> !fstab | irv
[20:52] <__dantheman> what about glxinfo | grep direct
[20:52] <^paradox^> ratcheer: ok so how to do so?
[20:52] <guntbert> edbian: try #latex :-)
[20:52] <GuitarInc1> I'm a bit confused about the 32-bit target architecture.  The .iso has "i386" in the name.  Does that mean that Ubuntu 10.04 will run on the original Intel 80386 (from 1985)?  Also, does i386 imply that Ubuntu does NOT make use of later x86 extentions?
[20:52] <acicula> edbian: er there are some wiki's and introduction available are around the web, picking up a book on it is recommended though
[20:52] <bastid_raZor> LinuxGuy2009: the swap guide explains how to add the swap partition/file to fstab
[20:52] <irv> bastid_raZor: thanks
[20:52] <bastid_raZor> irv: good luck
[20:52] <irv> LinuxGuy2009: thx
[20:53] <acicula> edbian: kile helps me loads when writing
[20:53] <sebsebseb> GuitarInc1: it means it will run on most/all 32bit computers
[20:53] <joaopinto> GuitarInc1, yes, i386 means it runs on  Intel 80386
[20:53] <agliodbs> so, why doesn't printing from one ubutu machine to another just work?
[20:53] <FreedomMaster> Help, i have the following situation, i have a somewhat small hard drive, i'm on my laptop, i have hardy installed on dual boot with windows 7, I have been running low on the 7 ntfs partition, how can i shrink a bit the hardy partition and extend the ntfs partition without causing any major havoc? much appreciated
[20:53] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: First you need to add the Partner repository (if you are in Lucid).
[20:53] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, use gparted
[20:53] <Pici> !generic | GuitarInc1 this should explain more
[20:53] <^paradox^> ratcheer: im not in lucid yet
[20:53] <LinuxGuy2009> irv:  sure
[20:53] <nasrullah> is xubuntu lucid wallpaper will load automaticaaly or via sypnatic
[20:54] <GuitarInc1> joaopinto: does that mean that it does NOT make use of later i686 extensions?  It doesn't run as efficiently as it could on my hardware?
[20:54] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: ok how do i do that?
[20:54] <acicula> GuitarInc1: the kernel switches to optimized code paths
[20:54] <Pici> GuitarInc1: It will use a -generic kernel, see the link from ubottu for more info.
[20:54] <^paradox^> ratcheer: im trying to figure out what things need to be sorted out before the upgrade
[20:54] <acicula> GuitarInc1: i386 does not mean only uses i386 features, but means it will still run on i386
[20:54] <joaopinto> GuitarInc1, it uses i686 extensions on software which supports those using dynamic optimization
[20:54] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: Oh. It won't matter yet, then. Upgrade Jave after you upgrade to Lucid.
[20:54] <xomp> anyone have experience with getting Ubuntu/Grub working with OSX/Chameleon?
[20:54] <Sir_Leto> Please Pm me, this channel moves to fast.  I'm trying to install disk-manager on Lucid, but it needs, python 2.5, which is only and no longer available in the repositories. Is there anyway to get disk-manager installed?
[20:54] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, boot a live CD ~ and system > admin > Gparted
[20:54] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40:  does that = booting from livecd and then going to the gnome partition editor and resizing with the slide thingy?
[20:55] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, yes
[20:55] <guntbert> !pm | Sir_Leto
[20:55] <marenostrum> !off-topic
[20:55] <jdtm> im gonna try to reburn it and retry, maybe my iso is corrupted or sumthing...
[20:55] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: that wont mess up either partition will it?
[20:55] <darolu> Are Ubuntu 10.04 iso files' hashes available?
[20:55] <guntbert> Sir_Leto: you can tell your client to hide the join/part messages
[20:55] <acicula> darolu: they are in the main release directory
[20:55] <^paradox^> ratcheer: can do, but is java just going to refuse to work or anything (because of upgrading to 10.04 i mean)?
[20:55] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: as in would you strictly back up?
[20:55] <SeiFi> after the installation of 10.04 using ubuntu's updater from 9.04 netbook remix it boots correctly now, but i only have a grey empty panel without any symbols on it... what can i do now? how to get the default panel?
[20:55] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, unlsess you loss power in the middle of resizing
[20:55] <toim> OI
[20:55] <LinuxGuy2009> !md5sum | jdtm\
[20:55] <darolu> acicula: release.ubuntu.com ?
[20:56] <duffydack> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/MD5SUMS
[20:56] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: do you happen to know the minimum size for hardy to run on? i.e. harddrive space?
[20:56] <nasrullah> best laptop for ubuntu
[20:56] <mickster04> so are there many problems with lynx?
[20:56] <alex_mayorga> is it possible to connect to my phone 3g via blueetooth?
[20:56] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, depends on what you have installed.....
[20:56] <darolu> acicula: thank you, I found them :D
[20:56] <nny> !final nny
[20:56] <therkz> mickster04: I installed it a short while ago, havent run into any problems myself
[20:56] <Fireking300> Can I put Ubuntu 10.04 on USB? So that I can use it to install on other computers? ( I don't have any spare cds/dvds)
[20:56] <kajros> Mickster04:  So far my only issue is my sound
[20:56] <Pici> !final > nny
[20:57] <guntbert> nasrullah: please don't take polls in here
[20:57] <jdtm> hmm how to find the md5sum i forget lol
[20:57] <joaopinto> Fireking300, yes, you just need to use the usb creation utility
[20:57] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: I don't really know. As long as you upgrade Java, soon, it shouldn't make muck difference. Maybe the Lucid upgrade will even do it for you (but, I doubt it).
[20:57] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: how do you mean? i have hardy....and lxde
[20:57] <mickster04> kajros: did u have that with 9.10 at the beginning?
[20:57] <Spice`> Fireking, if you have the disk image, you can mount it from within the LiveCD boot, or using UNetBootin.
[20:57] <QueenZ> ubuntu 10.04 is out finally
[20:57] <kaff3ine> hi all, if i wanted to copy a hyperlink to a .torrent file to download in the CLI, how would i do that?
[20:57] <nny> heh thanks, couldn't see the bot command cause empathy continus to scroll down if you try to look back at conversation
[20:57] <nasrullah> guntbert what yyou mean
[20:57] <kajros> mickster04:  Sound through my speakers yes not my headphones.  Now zero sound.
[20:57] <mickster04> kaff3ine: wget/
[20:58] <ratcheer> queenz: Really?
[20:58] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, there are many package~ like office , etc.... so ... ~ how tight is your space?may be time to upgrade youyr hd?
[20:58] <guntbert> nasrullah: don't ask "what is the best....." in here
[20:58] <QueenZ> ratcheer: haha yeah :D
[20:58] <mickster04> kaff3ine:  wget http://file.path
[20:58] <bp0> i installed ubuntu on encrypted lvm, and when it reboots i enter the passphrase, then it says "cryptsetup: sda5_crypt setup successfully" and freezes
[20:58] <^paradox^> ratcheer: but how? i gotta add a ppa or its done from the command line or synaptic?
[20:58] <bp0> i cant do anything
[20:58] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: pocket says definitely not time to upgrade harddrive, besides it being a pain given it's a laptop
[20:58] <rye> ^paradox^, sun java is available via canonical partners repository
[20:58] <dugger5688> Several kernel updates are being held back by nvidia? Normal?
[20:58] <kaff3ine> mickster04: okay. does that save the file? sorry, i'm a newbie. going in headfirst and only using cli though. :D
[20:59] <rye> ^paradox^, openjdk is available via main channel
[20:59] <nasrullah> lol i want to buy a laptop soon ..that's why??
[20:59] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: You just add the Partner repository.
[20:59] <Spice`> Now for me to kill 5 hours while I get all the new packages...
[20:59] <darolu> dugger5688: install them manually via Synaptic
[20:59] <Wicked> !freenx
[20:59] <mickster04> kaff3ine: well say your cli says user@hostname$ then you are probbly in your home folder, if you type wget http://file.path it will download to that directory
[20:59] <guntbert> nasrullah: try to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please -- this channel is strictly for support questions
[20:59] <Pici> !partner | ^paradox^
[21:00] <vasia> Does anyone know what is this PID: polkitd ? How to remove/stop this daemon? I've tried "sudo start-stop-daemon -n polkitd -K" but the daemon appear again!Thx!
[21:00] <Spice`> Luckily, I can run n through WINE.
[21:00] <alaska13> anyone know anything about configuring a ubuntu vm with a static ip
[21:00] <^paradox^> rye: can u please tell me what to add lol so i can just paste it into a file for later use? i know im lazy
[21:00] <ratcheer> ^paradox^: Do you want Open Java or the Sun Java that you have been using?
[21:00] <Pici> er, thats not what I wanted.
[21:00] <chiggavell> damn avarage 1.60 after upgrade
[21:00] <dugger5688> darolu: Are they being held back because the new drivers aren't compiled for the kernel?
[21:00] <nny> is there an official freenode channel or empathy.. (if so, do they just sit there and nod there heads when you say you have a problem..?)
[21:00] <nasrullah> ok then
[21:00] <nny> for*
[21:00] <nasrullah> thank you
[21:00] <chiggavell> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multiverse/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:00] <chiggavell> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:00] <chiggavell> how to fix it
[21:00] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, hmmm~ disable window7 hibernate and system recovery ~ uninstall Openoffice in you hardy if you don't use ~ that save you 2GBs+
[21:00] <rye> ^paradox^, /etc/apt/sources.list - add "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner" line
[21:01] <darolu> dugger5688: that's a possibility, I don't know of a certain way to find the exact reason; other reasons include them (the updates) not being in Main repositories
[21:01] <^paradox^> ratcheer: well i dont know for sure. what i want might not be what works
[21:01] <kaff3ine> mickster04: alright, i appreciate it. its a btjunkie.org, and it's a loooong, unintelligible mess, though, and i may download a few torrents, do you know of a way that doesn't require so much typing?
[21:01] <chiggavell> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multiverse/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:01] <uLinux> lucid is not that good
[21:01] <uLinux> .
[21:01] <chiggavell> how to fix it
[21:01] <QueenZ> uLinux: why not?
[21:01] <uLinux> how do i restore firefox launcher icon
[21:01] <QueenZ> Lucid is good
[21:01] <guntbert> nny: appearantly not on freenode - why do you use the app if you don't like it?
[21:01] <mickster04> kaff3ine: copy/paste...in terminal you have to rightclick>paste, ctrl+v doesnt work
[21:01] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: what do you mean? my intention is to get the windows 7 partition more space by taking some from the ubuntu hardy partition
[21:02] <Spice`> uLinux: Right click the menu bar, and "Add to Panel..."
[21:02] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, not a  good idea to dual boot on small drive thou if you ask me ;p
[21:02] <simar> Hey ppl hello
[21:02] <uLinux> Spice` there is NO icon
[21:02] <uLinux> thats a problem.
[21:02] <Spice`> uLinux: No icon, or no panel?
[21:02] <uLinux> there is a blank icon
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, it's some sort of licensing issue i believe
[21:02] <uLinux> ..
[21:02] <uLinux> it's bug
[21:02] <^paradox^> rye: thnx and for open java?
[21:02] <Limey_Packet> My torrent client is "seeding". What is this and how long will it take?
[21:02] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: it's not that small, it's over a 100gb
[21:03] <uLinux> the firefox icon is gone
[21:03] <nny> guntbert dunno my joke had more to do with the name. I want to like it, but eh. If telepathy works with pidgin, or even just remove telepathy (have not figured out how to disable ir in xession, but I am sure apt-get remove may work) Guess I just wanted to experience 10.4 in it's proper glory
[21:03] <simar> can anyone tell me about ubuntu classroom ..  Is it that conducted in a chatroom only
[21:03] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, i told you the method already ~gparted
[21:03] <__dantheman> Limey_Packet: your providing bandwith to other users that are downloading
[21:03] <abountu> how can I create a user and make it the default user (as in Ubuntu logs in straight to that user without prompting for pw) - this is currently happening to the current user, and I want it to happen to a different user
[21:03] <__dantheman> thats how bittorent works
[21:03] <mickster04> brb /away bath im old:(
[21:03] <alaska13> hello i am having trouble configuring ubuntu 10.04 with a static ip anyone have any advice?
[21:03] <uLinux> and how do i fix close minimize and maximize position
[21:03] <uLinux> this is annyoing
[21:03] <guntbert> Limey_Packet: as long as you let it -- it is letting other get part of your files from your system as before you got them from others
[21:03] <rye> ^paradox^, openjdk - just apt-get install openjdk-6-jre or jdk; for sun java - sun-java6-jre or jdk
[21:03] <ne7work> hello all :)
[21:03] <FreedomMaster> k
[21:04] <ne7work> How I can start graphic enviorment on linux ubuntu 10.04 server edition?
[21:04] <LinuxGuy2009> !java | ^paradox^
[21:04] <mawst> What happened to Ubuntu+1?
[21:04] <therkz> ne7work: do you have an xerver and window manager installed?
[21:04] <MPP> test
[21:04] <CRC-error> Hello all
[21:04] <guntbert> nny: empathy was the first thing I ditched on karmic - I never looked at it again
[21:04] <Aji-Dahaka> mawst: it largely cleared since Lucid was released today
[21:04] <maco> mawst: lucid was released
[21:04] <LinuxGuy2009> mawst: Lucid is already released
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: if you need a desktop then install the desktop OS
[21:04] <Kalidarn> hi, ive been finding setxkbmap -layout us
[21:04] <QueenZ> Lucid is out
[21:04] <nny> guntbert: anyways I found the vista dvd I needed already burnt, and running updates to make sure the problem isn't related to old versions. Thanks for being sane, i'll figure out the issue one way or another
[21:04] <Kalidarn> is required in order to get the ' key working right
[21:04] <CRC-error> I've install Ubuntu 10.04 on my VMware and on the login screen my keyboard is not detected.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: why install server when you wanted a desktop
[21:04] <nny> guntbert: (had to install vista, not by choice, it's a client's pc)
[21:05] <vasia> Does anyone know what is this PID: polkitd ? How to remove/stop this daemon? I've tried "sudo start-stop-daemon -n polkitd -K" but the daemon appear again!Thx!
[21:05] <Kalidarn> and this is not just lucid but karmic, too is there a better way to set that layout
[21:05] <uLinux> How do i fix close minimize and maximize position? It's annoying have it on left
[21:05] <ddelony> No more mirrors. Only main Ubuntu servers from now on for me.
[21:05] <Limey_Packet> Will my torrent client stop seeding when I close it?
[21:05] <uLinux> How do i fix close minimize and maximize position? It's annoying have it on left..
[21:05] <nny> guntbert: we'll see, maybe if ubuntu beats me enough I'll love it
[21:05] <CRC-error> I can select user or other but cannot type my password or alt+shift+# to get console.
[21:05] <^paradox^> rye: thnx
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> ULinux: there are thousands of guides online dude
[21:05] <MPP> Lucid is pretty cool
[21:05] <brontosaurusrexw> uLinux: i think thats in themes somewhere
[21:05] <uLinux> ActionParsnip thousands of guides for lucid lol..
[21:05] <dgtombs> anyone having success with lucid ISO torrents?
[21:05]  * Gaming4JC just noticed they FINALLY updated ubuntu.com announcing the Lucid release... ^^
[21:05] <guntbert> nny: you're welcome :-) we won't interfere one or the other way - we try to help if you ask us -- Good luck :-)
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Brontosaurusrexw: its in gconf-editor
[21:06] <ded> How do I tell firefox to use evince and not acroread?
[21:06] <uLinux> and yea firefox icon is gone.
[21:06] <ded> I've done firefox preferences and mailcap
[21:06] <brontosaurusrexw> ActionParsnip: ic, then i guess i changed the theme completely, uLinux wrong info
[21:06] <ne7work> Can I install gnome graphic enviorment or kde on Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition and how?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: for moving the buttons there are lots of guides. Remember lucid has had a few alphas and a couple of betas
[21:06] <CRC-error> exit
[21:06] <Leapo> Is VMWare's video card still not supported under Ubuntu 10.04? I can't get it to work properly.
[21:06] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[21:06] <__dantheman> sudo apt-get install kde
[21:07] <ne7work> __dantheman and how i can start the kde and stop kde?
[21:07] <guntbert> Leapo: you must install the vmware tools in the guest OS
[21:07] <ne7work> startx or? what?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Leapo: search for: vmware xorg.conf 1024x768 ,should help
[21:07] <Leapo> guntbert: Did that, still no joy
[21:07] <ne7work> and how i can to stop kde?
[21:07] <jdtm> okay i got the md5sum of the iso, its d7bf7fa4c2cd2518c92ab81faf5b795d
[21:07] <Kebap23> so, what is better: update or fresh new installation? i am currently using 9.10, want to upgrade to 10.04
[21:07] <__dantheman> ne7work: it should be available to select at the login screen
[21:07] <uLinux> so lame
[21:07] <RambJoe> eww these ati 10.4 drivers are HORRIBLE
[21:07] <guntbert> Leapo: then I don't know - sorry
[21:07] <Gaming4JC> Can anyone get Cannonical to update their store? I wanna buy 10.4 DVDs! :D
[21:07] <Leapo> ActionParsnip: i have vmware tools installed, but the driver Ubuntu is using doesn't appear to support 3D acceleration
[21:07] <ne7work> __dantheman on ubuntu 10.04 server edition?
[21:08] <Neo--> hm, can I expect any problems with drivers after updating vmware instance of ubuntu?
[21:08] <Alienarch> RambJoe:
[21:08] <Alienarch> how so?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Kebap23: i'd try an upgrade first
[21:08] <__dantheman> I would assume so
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Leapo: it won't either
[21:08] <__dantheman> when you first start up it comes to gdm right?
[21:08] <__dantheman> where you logon
[21:08] <guntbert> Leapo: you *may* have better luck in #vmware
[21:08] <zebastian_> i am on hardy with lxde, i want to get rid of gnome and just log into lxde everytime
[21:08] <RambJoe> i can't even drag a window to the other screen
[21:08] <zebastian_> how can i do this?
[21:08] <RambJoe> and everythign is really slow
[21:08] <ne7work> __dantheman well when I go to school how to stop kde?
[21:08] <kevin_> is there an easy way to downgrade php5.3 -> 5.2.x ?
[21:08] <__dantheman> logout and select gnome from the drop down menu
[21:08] <arand> Are there no release notes for Lucid yet?
[21:08] <ne7work> __dantheman how to stop and run kde from terminal?
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !notes | arand
[21:09] <Leapo> ActionParsnip: VMWare 7 added full 3D acceleration support. Everything the host hardware supports, teh virtual video adapter supports. I've had OpenGL and DirectX games running fine in Windows virtual machines already (which do have proper drivers)
[21:09] <Leapo> So why doesn't Ubuntu have a driver for it?
[21:09] <ne7work> __dantheman without i stop my host?
[21:09] <RambJoe> the 10.4s say they support Xorg 7.5
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Leapo: then i'd log a bug and/or ask in #vmware
[21:09] <ne7work> i need to kill only kde
[21:09] <Leapo> guntbert: I'll give it a try, but they sent me over here when I asked during the beta
[21:10] <arand> sebsebseb: Where on earth are they linked on the homepage, I was completely unable to find it there...
[21:10] <mewt> Is there someway of forcing update-manager to not use the default ubuntu download server for the upgrade ? Ubuntu servers are slowwwwwwwwww atm
[21:10]  * rye downloaded all ubuntu cd torrents and started seeding
[21:10] <__dantheman> if you just install kde and dont change any of the other settings, you wouldn't need to kill it
[21:10] <rye> mewt, yes, sudo software-properties-gtk
[21:11] <guntbert> Leapo: understood - but I never heard about needing a special driver for a virtual product, that wasn't provided by the VM system
[21:11] <NerdsMcgee_> Anyone else on a Macbook having a problem where the laptop thinks it's plugged in on battery?
[21:11] <__dantheman> just logout of the session and you're back to the default install
[21:11] <TannerF> hi. can I run 10.04 on a computer w/ a half gig of ram and a 3 GHz P4?
[21:11] <Leapo> guntbert: They did provide it but it required a kernel update for 9.10. I had hoped it would be rolled into 10.04
[21:11] <Alienarch> Yes Tanner
[21:11] <ne7work> __dantheman when I logout i stop any processes or no?
[21:11] <irv> is hibernation working for all y'all?
[21:11] <ne7work> __dantheman or stop only KDE?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> TannerF: yes
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Tanner: more than I've got so yes absolutely
[21:12] <guntbert> Leapo: did you install dkms in the guest?
[21:12] <__dantheman> when your logging out, your just coming back to gdm
[21:12] <mewt> rye, changing it from there wont help, it gets automatically modified to archive.ubuntu.com in sources.list once the upgrade starts.
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> !requirements | tanner
[21:12] <__dantheman> there shouldn't be any left over kde parts running
[21:12] <Leapo> guntbert: What would that do?
[21:12] <ne7work> __dantheman gdm is?
[21:12] <imagine7xy> Can someone tell me please how to get my ATI drivers working? Call me @ 412-341-0433 please.
[21:12] <__dantheman> the default login for gnome
[21:12] <ne7work> __dantheman i talk you to Linux Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition
[21:12] <amereservant> After installing Ubuntu Server, what is the root user's password?
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> !language | imagine7xy
[21:12] <ne7work> __dantheman i talk you to Linux Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition not Desktop?
[21:12] <mewt> amereservant, the one you set during install
[21:13] <sebsebseb> !noroot | amereservant
[21:13] <dxtr> Uhm.. What do I do when I've run out of space on / thanks to /lib? :D
[21:13] <amereservant> mewt: It never asks to set one.
[21:13] <guntbert> Leapo: it provides a way to "automatically" compile the configured kernel modules after a kernel update
[21:13] <sebsebseb> amereservant: I guess that applys to the server edition as well, but maybe not
[21:13] <sebsebseb> amereservant: there's also #ubuntu-server by the way
[21:13] <poutine> imagine7xy, you're really expecting people to call you to support you?
[21:13] <zebastian_> i installed lxde as my desktop environment, is there a way of getting rid of gnome'
[21:13] <imagine7xy> poutine: Yes, I would
[21:13] <amereservant> sebsebseb: Well I've never had it prompt me for one in Desktop either.
[21:13] <zebastian_> ?
[21:13] <LinuxGuy2009> !pm | imagine7xy
[21:13] <brontosaurusrexw> dxtr: you move /lib to 2nd disk or partition
[21:13] <sebsebseb> amereservant: yes Ubuntu doesn't use root, it uses sudo instead
[21:13] <Leapo> guntbert: Seems like a lot of work to go through for something that should have been rolled in months ago. i'll try asking in #vmware -_-
[21:13] <guntbert> !root | amereservant
[21:13] <poutine> imagine7xy, I wouldn't, you're not paying for it, are you?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> !sudo | amereservant
[21:14] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: then you probably should purchase a server operating system
[21:14] <zebastian_> i am on hardy, but if i wanted to could i run ubuntu smoothly and without trouble with lxde only?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: yes
[21:14] <imagine7xy> I will pay someone to help me fix this?
[21:14] <imagine7xy> You want it that way
[21:14] <theGman> I'm new to ubuntu (Use Fedora Mostly) I need to know how to install the entire x window system, I've only got part of it atm...but can't startx...I get something about no xrdb or something...
[21:14] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: how?
[21:14] <__dantheman> what are you trying to fix
[21:14] <amereservant> Ok, I gotcha.  I didn't know exactly what sudoer was until I installed Debian and realized it doesn't use it by default.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Zebastian: totally lxde rocks
[21:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: don't think LXDE is in the Hardy repo though, but maybe can get a ppa for lubuntu for example
[21:14] <joaopinto> imagine7xy, did you tried to enable the restricted drivers ?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Zebastian: sudo apt-get install lxde
[21:15] <sebsebseb> !lubuntu
[21:15] <theGman> I'm using 9.10 server
[21:15] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: ^
[21:15] <joaopinto> theGman, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:15] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i already have lxde, wha ti dont know is how/if i shoudld get rid of gnome
[21:15] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: doesn't matter if you keep both
[21:15] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: run glxinfo | grep direct
[21:15] <LinuxGuy2009> zebastian_:  sudo tasksel (untick ubuntu desktop)
[21:15] <theGman> Anyone?
[21:16] <__dantheman> and tell us the output
[21:16] <kevin_> is there an easy way to downgrade php5.3 -> 5.2.x ?
[21:16] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i actually want to get rid of gnome
[21:16] <zebastian_> LinuxGuy2009: what is that?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: hrm
[21:16] <sebsebseb> !purekde | zebastian_
[21:16] <s3r3n1t7> zebastian, do you have a specific reason that you want to get rid of Gnome?
[21:16] <LinuxGuy2009>  zebastian_: if you want gnome gone, then there you go.
[21:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: I think that page tells you what to remove for Gnome
[21:16] <irv> for hibernation, should it just load back into the same session I had? When rebooting, I just get GRUB again and then a normal login prompt
[21:16] <joaopinto> kevin_, no
[21:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: ,but also what to install for Kubuntu so you don't want to do that
[21:17] <kallisto_> i have deleted my /boot/grub folder how I recreate the stage1 file?
[21:17] <kevin_> @joapinto : GRR.. thanks
[21:17] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i wont install kubuntu, i am just afraid that i might mess something up by getting rid of gnome
[21:17] <uLinux> broadcast accounts lame..
[21:17] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: so keep it and don't use it, problem solved?
[21:17] <theGman> I'm new to ubuntu (Use Fedora Mostly) I need to know how to install x window system, including all the Xorg stuff...anyone?
[21:18] <littlepenguin> gman??
[21:18] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i guess ill take a risk
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> zebastian_: Yeah the directions are there, but if you dont want to then dont. Your call.
[21:18] <mewt> theGman, usually you can install the default gnome desktop by simply install sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:18] <littlepenguin> if you need x window system install the desktop version @gman
[21:18] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: what was the gfx card you had, again?
[21:18] <theGman> Which means I'm in a textbased login, not much for browsers :P
[21:19] <trism> theGman: if you just want xorg, just sudo apt-get install xorg; (you'll probably want a window manager too)
[21:19] <Gaming4JC> http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17 ... epic.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Thegman: why install server when you wanted a desktop system?
[21:19] <barbarella> theGman:It depends what you want, gnome kde...
[21:19] <Spice`> Anyone here play n?
[21:19] <Spreadsheet_> Where are GNOME backgrounds (wallpapers) stored?
[21:20] <littlepenguin> yep parsnip that was my thought
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: /usr/share/backgrounds or something like that
[21:20] <^paradox^> thnx for taking time to answer my questions all. ill be back shortly.
[21:20] <theGman> barbarella: Gnome is fine for now, I can worry about that later.
[21:20] <Spreadsheet_> sebsebseb: thanks
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: np
[21:20] <littlepenguin> @spreadsheet http://gnome-look.org/
[21:20] <__dantheman> damn, the servers are slammed
[21:20] <theGman> barbarella: Would it be aptitude install "Gnome Desktop" ?
[21:20] <mchasard> can i install ubuntu 10.04 on a eeepc 701 sdhc 4Go
[21:21] <sebsebseb> mchasard: the netbook edition I think so
[21:21] <sebsebseb> mchasard:  probably even the desktop, but should go for the netbook edition really
[21:21] <mchasard> it's anormaly long
[21:21] <cantoma> so any benchmark on this new ubuntu ?? is it faster than the others ?????
[21:21] <LinuxGuy2009> mchasard: Download and test it yourself. Might be surprised.
[21:21] <sebsebseb> !netbook | mchasard
[21:21] <jhambo> what kind of download rates should I expect for distribution upgrade?  I'm getting only like 40 kB/s
[21:21] <mchasard> not desktop ?
[21:21] <sebsebseb> oh where is the bot
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Mchasard: sure the netbook remix or xubuntu will be fine
[21:21] <HappyMuppet> 2MB]
[21:21] <joaopinto> cantoma, google for benchmarks
[21:21] <sebsebseb> mchasard: netook edition has a special kernel versin for net books
[21:21] <__dantheman> jhambo: the servers are slammed
[21:22] <sebsebseb> version
[21:22] <mchasard> i don(t like the panel
[21:22] <joneskoo> mchasard: it's not a lot of space so consider what you install, too.
[21:22] <jcbv> does 10.04 run compiz on old geforce vanta and tnt cards
[21:22] <LinuxGuy2009> sebsebseb: Hmm I wasnt even aware of that.
[21:22] <__dantheman> just pulling info about new packages im only getting 10-15kb/sec
[21:22] <sebsebseb> jhambo: :D was wondering when stuff like that would happen
[21:22] <theGman> barbarella: Hello? Did I have the right of it or...?
[21:22] <__dantheman> and thats ona 50Mbps line
[21:22] <littlepenguin> i got them fast
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Mchasard: or use ubuntu-minimal and install lubuntu desktop
[21:22] <mchasard> hum ok so its normal that i'm at at89%
[21:23] <littlepenguin> the installing takes me 1 1/2 hour
[21:23] <jhambo> Also, can I expect distribution upgrade to leave me with a system will actually work or will it break half of my stuff (as in my past attempts at distribution upgrade)?
[21:23] <barbarella> theGman:it is said, apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[21:23] <sebsebseb> jhambo: that's why experienced sane people, tend to upgrade at least two days after the release, so I mean Saturday by the earliest
[21:23] <bikcmp> Hi everyone, it appears that the ubuntu apt server is't working.
[21:23] <jcbv> seeing it took me 8 downloads to get a good installable version with 9.10 i hope this aint the same
[21:23] <mchasard> ok its more than 30mn
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Mchasard: remove unnecesarry apps
[21:23] <jhambo> sebsebseb: yes that would have been sane...
[21:23] <barbarella> theGman:sudo it is
[21:23] <theGman> barbarella: Sry, I must have lost in all the chatter. Thx :)
[21:23] <ratcheer> jhambo: Upgrade worked fine, for me.
[21:23] <s3r3n1t7> bikcmp, mind telling us why it isn't workin?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !slow
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> theGman, if you want Gnome and Ubuntu default stuff "sudo aptitiude install ubuntu-desktop"
[21:23] <BlackBishop> in what package can I find libxpcom.so ?
[21:23] <codertux> hello, how can I make a service start by default wen the machine boots?
[21:24] <UseTheForce> eek installer ain't working on my puter at all
[21:24] <ubutom> no fglrx atm?
[21:24] <bikcmp> s3r3n1t7: Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com and it freezes.  Is it because of the recent new version?
[21:24] <jcbv> im just gonna reinstall ubuntu 10.04 over 9.10
[21:24] <sebsebseb> jhambo: there's even a factoid for when things get slow by the way  ^
[21:24] <littlepenguin> codertux under system startprogramms
[21:24] <s3r3n1t7> bikcmp, see message from ubottu above. It's quite working actually, albeit a bit slow.
[21:24] <ganja> when do you think it will go at normal speed?
[21:24] <thirtytwofeetper> 32
[21:24] <cantoma> joaopinto, i could find for Alpha 2 but not for final release .. could you find anything for final release?
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> UseTheForce: alternate disk maybe?
[21:24] <codertux> littlepenguin: I'm working on a remote server through ssh and my debian/ubuntu-fu is quite limited :)
[21:24] <bikcmp> s3r3n1t7: I see
[21:25] <alex_mayorga> why this wont work http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/07/10/unwire-with-networkmanager/
[21:25] <s3r3n1t7> !mirrors
[21:25] <UseTheForce> LinuxGuy2009: i'm using the regulary iso - is the alternate any different?
[21:25] <jcbv> anyone use geforce 2 gts and compiz or vanta and compiz or is it dead
[21:25] <alex_mayorga> !bluetooth
[21:25] <barbarella> theGman:same here, to many letters are passing my screen
[21:25] <frybye> just installed lucid - have no sound with creative x-fi extreem audio - any tips?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> UseTheForce: support for some more hardware, and text based installer
[21:25] <LinuxGuy2009> UseTheForce: Yes its a text based installer.
[21:25] <mchasard> i'm going to wait till the end
[21:25] <sebsebseb> !alternate | UseTheForce
[21:25] <joaopinto> cantoma, don't expect significant performance changes after alpha2
[21:25] <mchasard> thanks
[21:26] <thirtytwofeetper>      /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[21:26] <Ossah> Hi all. Just install 10.04. I am having a weird problem with the Applications menu. It seems to crash if I hover of "Graphics" or "Sound & Video" any ideas
[21:26] <UseTheForce> LinuxGuy2009 cool thx guys i'm gunna give that one a spin :)
[21:26] <xckpd7> question: I'm trying to install a ruby gem, and it isn't working.... is it possible that the ubuntu package manager is conflicting with it?
[21:26] <elnur> If my CPU can handle 64 bit, should I finally switch to it?
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> UseTheForce: good luck
[21:26] <sebsebseb> elnur: probably
[21:26] <subone> If anyone is wondering how I fixed my issues earlier with trying to install Ubuntu on a machine with a bad power supply (CD Drive was intermittently working) and no ability to boot from USB: http://subone.org/blog/2010/04/ubuntu-9-10-installation-sager-np7620/
[21:26] <adasz> how can i change the acc on ubuntuone
[21:26] <adasz> ?
[21:26] <elnur> sebsebseb, know any disadvantages of 64 bit?
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> elnur: Im thinking of finally doing so myself.
[21:26] <cantoma> joaopinto, well there is a lot of regression due to security reasons .. it does not perform better than 9.04
[21:26] <sebsebseb> elnur: most stuff seems to work well
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !one | adasz
[21:27] <elnur> LinuxGuy2009, with 10.04?
[21:27] <hsn> !two | hsn
[21:27] <joaopinto> cantoma, who ? There are no know security related regressions
[21:27] <Ossah> Hi all. Just install 10.04. I am having a weird problem with the Applications menu. It seems to crash if I hover of "Graphics" or "Sound & Video" any ideas
[21:27] <tomatoes7> is there a torrent for netbook ubuntu 10.04?
[21:27] <artistxe> md5sum check not matching. is this because of respin concerning grub earlier today ????
[21:28] <joneskoo> elnur: 64bit results in slightly higher memory usage, that's a downside. of course 64 bit supports more memory, too if you can can install more
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !torrents | tomatoes7
[21:28] <s3r3n1t7> Ossah, can you be more specific? Crash? Does it not show a picture? Does the screen freeze? Does it not dance, bring you beer?
[21:28] <artistxe> can anyone do an md5sum check ?????
[21:28] <LinuxGuy2009> elnur: Yes 10.04
[21:28] <Ossah> huh.....it seems to be working now :)
[21:28] <thebruce> hey guys
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | artistxe
[21:28] <cantoma> joaopinto, performance continues to suffer dramatically under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and it is not expected that it will change at all for this next Ubuntu release. This major drop in the number of transactions being carried out per second is due to an EXT4 file-system change designed to provide better data safety but with a significant performance penalty.
[21:28] <thebruce> is this support for the 10.04 LTS?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> artistxe: you can aldo sha1sum and sha2sum check or whatever it is
[21:28] <elnur> joneskoo, i have 4 GB of RAM, and my 32-bit ubuntu sees all of it because of -pae kernel. does 64 bit supports even more?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> artistxe: also not aldo above
[21:28] <frybye> using lucid in settings - sound - it seems to have correctly identified my sound card but does not offer the 5.1 setup I have - any tips?
[21:28] <rohan> elnur: no
[21:28] <ratcheer> ubottu: You are a cool dude!
[21:29] <LinuxGuy2009> seb is fast as lightning today
[21:29] <elnur> LinuxGuy2009, heh. then we are in the same situation :)
[21:29] <ZykoticK9> tomatoes7, yes on this page http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[21:29] <sebsebseb> !thanks | ratcheer
[21:29] <Ossah> guess Pidgin install did more than just install
[21:29] <thebruce> i am having an issue with my number pad on my keyboard
[21:29] <littlepenguin> codertux take cron
[21:29] <Ossah> thanks guys.
[21:29] <joaopinto> cannonball, ah, you mean data safety, yes, but that is not ubuntu specific, that is related to ext4, you can use ext3 or, increase ext4 performance at a security cost
[21:29] <Ossah> lol
[21:29] <elnur> rohan, so, 64-bit supports as much as 32-bit pae?
[21:29] <artistxe> ubottu, uh...... I am not using windows to do a check !
[21:30] <cantoma> joaopinto, yes you are right
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: !numlock
[21:30] <barbarella> elnur:go for the 64bits
[21:30] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: I think it's nicer to do support in here, when the channel number is rather big indeed
[21:30] <joneskoo> elnur: if you see all your memory, that's not a gain anyways. there might be some minor performance difference but which way, depends on the applications I guess. I'm not aware of significant differences either way.
[21:30] <thebruce> lol LinuxGuy2009 i don't have a numlock on my keyboard
[21:30] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: such as now
[21:30] <k0sh> should i install regular ubuntu or netbook remix on my msi-wind? i dont like netbook-ubuntu gui that much
[21:30] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: altough it was like 2000 people earlier
[21:30] <zebastian_> lynx was just released today?
[21:30] <Ossah> later guys and gals. I am sure I'll be back after I break something....
[21:30] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: yes
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009>  sebsebseb: true that
[21:30] <elnur> barbarella, heard anything about flash player not working on 64-bit?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> !isitout | zebastian_
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> k0sh, if you don't like UNE, then just install the desktop version
[21:31] <Ossah> Hey I can add something!
[21:31] <sebsebseb> !ask | Ossah
[21:31] <Ossah> I have 64bit 10.04 and flash player is working fine
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> elnur, flash works on 64bit, there is a click issue that needs to be manually fixed though
[21:31] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: Whats your actual question so we all know what going on with ya?
[21:31] <k0sh> ZykoticK9: i like internals that are suited to netobooks...
[21:31] <maniek> hey
[21:31] <maniek> pl?
[21:31] <bencc> is there a difference between installing fresh 10.04 or upgrading from the beta?
[21:31] <thebruce> lol LinuxGuy2009 ok
[21:31] <Aji-Dahaka> so, is there a convenient way to back up home directory and the set of applications I chose to install before an upgrade to Lynx?  When I tried the beta, the system would kernel panic on boot and reinstalls from scratch take a while.
[21:31] <Hebram> elnur:  The only thing I have experienced issues with on x64 is the Cisco AnyConnect VPN client.
[21:31] <joaopinto> !final | bencc
[21:32] <sebsebseb> bencc: maybe
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> k0sh, i believe the kernels are actually the same
[21:32] <axisys> i am having issue with javaws unable to open a .jnlp file http://pastebin.com/6sVStTJ1
[21:32] <axisys> anyone can help?
[21:32] <Ossah> had to install flash player from Synaptic and had a few errors at first but it installed fine once I did a normal update
[21:32] <sebsebseb> bencc: if you upgrade from the beta,  the updates that were installed, may have not installed properly
[21:32] <elnur> ZykoticK9, i bet it's not so hard to fix, right?
[21:32] <k0sh> ZykoticK9: theres is more to internals than just kernels..
[21:32] <ratcheer> bencc: There will be some minor differences.
[21:32] <thebruce> i have an Mx5500 keyboard my number pad worked at one time. NOW the numberpad just moves the mouse, or left clicks
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> elnur, it isn't
[21:32] <carlos_> hi guys
[21:32] <dupondje> bencc: no difference. When you upgrade the beta, you have the final
[21:32] <jo_> i need help with symlink on 64bit java
[21:32] <sebsebseb> dupondje: uh well see above ^
[21:32] <agronholm> "Users of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS may wish to wait for 10.04.1 LTS, due in July 2010,
[21:32] <agronholm> before upgrading. "
[21:32] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, you can install without removing the /home partition, anyway if you had a kernel panic you should test with a livecd first
[21:32] <carlos_> anyone knows a tutorial to update to 10.04 from shell?
[21:32] <bencc> I got two different answers :)
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> k0sh, are you sure about that?  I've certainly heard the only real difference is the interface
[21:32] <dupondje> sebsebseb: lagg :( :P
[21:32] <agronholm> why is this said in the announcement?
[21:32] <elnur> Hebram, heh. since i don't plan to use it, seems like 64 will be a good choice
[21:32] <joneskoo> bencc: there was some security note in release notes but that was only about alpha versions I think
[21:32] <bencc> sebsebseb: why not properly?
[21:32] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: the installer (built into my laptop) wipes the whole hard disk on install
[21:33] <sebsebseb> dupondje: have the final sure, but  maybe not with all the updates installed properly
[21:33] <stryk3r> If I had the release candidate of 10.04, by just updating it should be the same as the stable release right?
[21:33] <maniek> PL?
[21:33] <Ossah> exam revision to do. later
[21:33] <sebsebseb> bencc: since that's how it is, when in development
[21:33] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: I may try a liveusb boot.  Good idea.
[21:33] <k0sh> ZykoticK9: power management, handling of things like lid, webcam, some tunings to motherboards.. etc
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> stryk3r, yes
[21:33] <littlepenguin> apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:33] <bencc> joneskoo: it's a vbox vm so I guess security shouldn't be an issue
[21:33] <joaopinto> agronholm, because it's likely that some important but undetected problems will be fixed until then
[21:33] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: Maybe accessability features are enabled?
[21:33] <markjones> grr
[21:33] <jo_> i need help with symlink on 64bit java on 10.04
[21:33] <barbarella> elnur:go for it, a nice example is the 3 GB barrier on a 32bits system.
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> !final > stryk3r
[21:33] <bencc> sebsebseb: ok. thanks
[21:33] <Aji-Dahaka> carlos_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, set karmic to lucid, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:33] <stryk3r> ZykoticK9, thanks
[21:33] <markjones> i cannot partition my HDD
[21:33] <sebsebseb> dupondje:   bencc  let's be clear, you have the updates sure, but they may not be giving you the features you are meant to have
[21:33] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, DO NOT, that is now how you upgrade
[21:33] <elnur> barbarella, the thing is that my 32-bit sees all of 4 GB because of -pae kernel
[21:33] <agronholm> joaopinto, ok so it was a generic thing like "wait for service pack 1"?
[21:34] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: ?
[21:34] <maniek> hello
[21:34] <ratcheer> bencc: For instance, my upgrade did not end up with the current alsa driver. I had to fix it, manually.
[21:34] <reportingsjr> is anyone else getting 404 and 403 errors while trying to dl 10.04 upgrades?
[21:34] <LinuxGuy2009> markjones: Hi there MarkJones, my name is MarkJones too. :)
[21:34] <dupondje> sebsebseb: oops :) karmic from alpha 2, and lucid since alpha 1 :) seems like I should do a reinstall ?
[21:34] <thebruce> LinuxGuy2009, they are not
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> elnur, 64bit will too
[21:34] <jo_> i need help with symlink on 64bit java on 10.04
[21:34] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, the procedure which you have described is not recommended and could break the system, you use either update-manger or do-release-upgrade
[21:34] <bencc> ratcheer: how can I check if I have problems?
[21:34] <amereservant> So LVM is like raid, but without the redundancy, right?
[21:34] <stefg> markjones: is there still stuff on that hd that you need and that's not backed up?
[21:34] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: when did apt-get dist-upgrade stop handling it?
[21:34] <joaopinto> amereservant, not, they are not related at all
[21:34] <markjones> stefg: a windows partition
[21:34] <sebsebseb> dupondje: if your lacking features that  your meant to have,  if not, your probably ok,  but well  10.04 has a nice installer slide show as well
[21:34] <markjones> and that's about 300gb
[21:35] <prof87> hi at all
[21:35] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, years ago, since update-manager was introduced which handles cenarios not covered by dist-upgrade
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> !dd
[21:35] <ratcheer> bencc: I don't know. You just have to keep an eye on things.
[21:35] <jimcooncat> prof87: 1885 users say hi back
[21:35] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: oh, interesting.  I didn't know.  (I haven't used much ubuntu ... freebsd is my usual)
[21:35] <joneskoo> amereservant: LVM is more than RAID since it can be dynamically changed (resizing partitions and adding new physical storage)
[21:35] <bencc> ratcheer: ok
[21:35] <stefg> markjones: seems that your partition table is half broken. you better take a backup of that win-partition before you proceed
[21:35] <markjones> I'll Wubi it
[21:35] <sebsebseb> dupondje: oh and that's something if you been upgrading Karmic since alpha 1, without things messing up  big time
[21:35] <ZykoticK9> jo_, this is how i used 64bit java with Chromium, you could adapt for Firefox probably http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[21:35] <dupondje> sebsebseb: think all have them all :) but never seen slideshow installer ... héhé :D
[21:35] <elnur> My CPU is Core i7. Is it really 64-bit?
[21:35] <joaopinto> JonathanD, some RAIDs are not dynamic, it's not related to LVM at all
[21:35] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:36] <Aji-Dahaka> jas4711: thank you.
[21:36] <amereservant> joaopinto: Well if I used LVM and say I have a 20GB hdd and an 80GB hdd, I can use LVM to combine them as a single 100GB partition if I wanted, right?
[21:36] <Stavros> hello
[21:36] <joaopinto> ops, was for joneskoo
[21:36] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: thank you
[21:36] <Alienarch> Anyone mind helping a noob out a little on simple stuff for server?
[21:36] <Aji-Dahaka> jas4711: whoops, meant that for someone else.
[21:36] <Stavros> is anyone else having trouble updating, getting "cannot download the installation notes"?
[21:36] <thebruce> LinuxGuy2009, i fixed it thanks
[21:36] <sebsebseb> dupondje: yeah that's for clean installs of  9.10 and 10.04, slide show installers
[21:36] <thebruce> 321321
[21:36] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:36] <joaopinto> amereservant, right, it allows you to do logical grouping of storage, but that is not RAID related
[21:36] <sebsebseb> dupondje: like Windows so people can find out about the operating system, whilst it's installing
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: good to hear
[21:36] <dupondje> cool :)
[21:36] <shakey_snake> where is the NBE torrent?
[21:36] <elnur> Why I see only amd64 ubuntu iso? nothing for x86-64?
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> Stavros, someone was mentioning that issue a little while ago - not sure what the outcome was, sorry.
[21:36] <ppaulhus> hey there... just wondering how do I update to 10.04 from an existing ubuntu install? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[21:36] <Alienarch> amd64 is x86-64 also
[21:36] <Stavros> hmm, thanks
[21:37] <Stavros> Alienarch: just ask
[21:37] <MikeChelen> ppaulhus: yeah or use update-manager
[21:37] <amereservant> joaopinto: Ok, I gotcha.  That's what I thought, I guess the mention of RAID was a bad one.  Now if one disk fails in a LVM setup, does it loose everything in the LVM partition(s)?
[21:37] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:37] <s3r3n1t7> !upgrade | ppaulhus
[21:37] <Alienarch> well i dont have apt-get on my server, but I am wanting to put webmin on it.. just not sure how to get it there lol
[21:37] <shakey_snake> er.. UNE torrent, whatever it's called now
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> !64bit
[21:37] <ppaulhus> thanks
[21:37] <dupondje> btw, sunbird has been removed ? :s
[21:37] <abountu> how can I create a user and make it the default user (as in Ubuntu logs in straight to that user without prompting for pw) - this is currently happening to the current user, and I want it to happen to a different user
[21:38] <joaopinto> amereservant, yes, unless you use LVM mirroring, which provides mirroring functionaly, but to be honest I am not sure Linux LVM supports mirroring
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> dupondje, looks that way
[21:38] <sebsebseb> dupondje: possibily, since Sunbird no longer support Desktop Linux, however there's a fork of Sunbird, which does
[21:38] <Stavros> Alienarch: are you running an ubuntu server?
[21:38] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:38] <Alienarch> Yeah Stav, 10.04 (LAMP)
[21:38] <kenny> hey, is it out yet ?:D
[21:38] <amereservant> joaopinto: Alright, thank you very much.  I was curious and read up on it, but wasn't sure about those two things.
[21:38] <axolote> Question: Is the standard desktop i386 download (via torrent) for 10.04 a live version?  I can't seem to start up a live environment. It just goes black after the boot splash and doesn't do anything.  I installed the .iso on a USB stick via unetbootin. Any ideas?
[21:38] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: One user can only be set to autologin. Keep in mind that keyrings may still require a password.
[21:38] <sebsebseb> !isitout | kenny
[21:38] <Zed`> Anyone have any luck installing VMware tools (ESX) on 10.04?
[21:38] <armence> Hey all, I have this one folder in which several people need to be able to read and write. How can I set it up such that as soon as a file is added in that folder, it immediately becomes owned, readable and writable by a certain group?
[21:38] <Mahara> In which package is asoundconf ?
[21:39] <strange> anyone know how to get the close/minimize/maximize buttons to the right?
[21:39] <ShibaKun> I just noticed the lack of a PowerPC ISO on the 10.04 downloads page.  Is this planned or has it been phased out?
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: System->Admin->Users and Groups
[21:39] <Guest64581> cool, so how do i refresh from karmic?:D
[21:39] <joneskoo> amereservant: LVM is nice when combined with RAID
[21:39] <sebsebseb> !controls | strange
[21:39] <dupondje> sebsebseb: whats the fork .
[21:39] <dupondje> ?
[21:39] <littlepenguin> dejavues the 10th
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> !controls | strange
[21:39] <barbarella> armence:samba?
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009> armence: Make sure that all users are part of the same group.
[21:39] <amereservant> joneskoo: Hmmm, that's an interesting idea.  That way you have the redundancy and the flexibility.....
[21:39] <reportingsjr> is anyone else getting 404 and 403 errors while trying to dl 10.04 upgrades?
[21:39] <joneskoo> amereservant: exactly
[21:40] <sebsebseb> dupondje: nightinggal or something.  search http://www.linuxtoday.com for Sunbird, and stuff will come up about that
[21:40] <joneskoo> amereservant: and if you need more space, you can add another RAID-1 or RAID-5 to the LVM set
[21:40] <ShibaKun> reportingsjr: the download servers are being hammered right now
[21:40] <Ken8521> ShibaKun, PowerPC hasn't been officially canonical for a couple of releases, believe there's some community ports
[21:40] <Ken8521> !powerpc | ShibaKun
[21:40] <s3r3n1t7> !slow
[21:40] <LinuxGuy2009> !permissions
[21:40] <armence> LinuxGuy2009, Well, ok, but users are part of several different groups... How can I make sure the file is owned by the correct group?
[21:40] <ShibaKun> reportingsjr: grab the torrents
[21:40] <joneskoo> amereservant: you can extend LVM on the fly (and even move physical volumes off the set, moving data to remaining volumes)
[21:40] <reportingsjr> ShibaKun: so I thought, but I don't even get a small download rate I just get 404 and 403 errors. How long until you think I can get the full upgrades
[21:40] <shakey_snake> where is the Netbook edition torrent?
[21:40] <reportingsjr> ShibaKun: well I'm upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04. Can I do that with the torrents somehow?
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !torrents | shakey_snake
[21:41] <andy112233> Hi everyone. Lucid Lynx does not recognize my USB storage devices when plugged in. Karmic Koala did. Any help? THANKYOU!
[21:41] <ShibaKun> reportingsjr: wait until tomorrow
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> shakey_snake, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[21:41] <reportingsjr> ShibaKun: that's what I thought, thank you!
[21:41] <desti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[21:41] <amereservant> joneskoo: Yeah, very nice!  I'm surprised that hasn't caught my attention any sooner.  The only drawback would be the lack of windows compatibility since LVM is for Linux.  But to the sole linux users, it's awesome.
[21:41] <Stavros> can i upgrade through a torrent?
[21:41] <sebsebseb> Stavros: no
[21:41] <Stavros> aw
[21:41] <Dr-Ubuntu> i upgraded a week ago to 10.4 but now its official release i dont get any updates why is that?
[21:41] <reportingsjr> Stavros: shame, I know. Haha
[21:41] <elnur> So, I still don't get. If my CPU is Intel Core i7 which is x86-64, can I install amd64 version on it?
[21:41] <acicula> Stavros: you can download the iso via torrent
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> !final > Dr-Ubuntu no
[21:41] <acicula> elnur: yes
[21:41] <sebsebseb> Dr-Ubuntu: there should have been a few, if you did the rc
[21:41] <axolote> @ubottu: Do the .iso's from the torrents allow booting into a live environment?
[21:41] <zebastian_> can someone explain to me how i am supposed to download from this page? https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
[21:41] <Stavros> acicula: ah, i'll just wait a few days, thanks
[21:41] <LinuxGuy2009> armence: Not sure other than the creator to give permission to the group manually. Not sure if there is an automatic way.
[21:41] <Ken8521> Dr-Ubuntu, you are probably up to date, just run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:42] <acicula> Stavros: downloading the torrent wont take long
[21:42] <Stavros> zebastian_: join #launchpad
[21:42] <armence> LinuxGuy2009, Thanks
[21:42] <RandyOrt> i'm assuming the windows install program for 10.04 is only for the x86 version, right?
[21:42] <reportingsjr> elnur: yes, it's not about the cpu, but the architecture of the cpu. amd64 is 64-bit, as is x86-64
[21:42] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:42] <Stavros> acicula: but burning it, rebooting, etc will :/
[21:42] <joneskoo> amereservant: I'm not sure if software raid is that compatible either
[21:42] <Twiple> OK, I want to dual boot ubuntu with windows on my EeePC, what precautions should I take?
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> armence: If they are members of different groups there is really no logical way that i could think of that ubuntu would know which one to set to a specific file.
[21:42] <joneskoo> amereservant: of course if you have hardware raid, sure.
[21:42] <Jordan_U> artveee: You can use zsync to just download the changes / parts with errors.
[21:42] <sebsebseb> RandyOrt: Wubi is ok for  trying Ubuntu, but not that good in the long run,  for example a pshyical install is likely to work a bit faster
[21:42] <selofi> holas!
[21:42] <reportingsjr> Twiple: you have to install windows first, then you can easily dual boot when installing ubuntu.
[21:42] <Stavros> has anyone tried btrfs at all?
[21:42] <abountu> LinuxGuy2009, ok, I created the new user, but how can I make Ubuntu log on straight to this user, instead of the current user
[21:43] <Dr-Ubuntu> no idea what i installed tbh i just got the 1 from update manager -d
[21:43] <RandyOrt> sebsebseb: yeah... i'm grabbing the x64 version right now via usenet
[21:43] <sebsebseb> Stavros: btrfs is not stable,  that will be another year or so yet
[21:43] <s3r3n1t7> axolote, Ubottu is a bot, he won't answer you. However, the CD's or DVD's you download and burn on a disc will let you boot into a live env.
[21:43] <reportingsjr> Twiple: windows can not dual boot and will over write anything else on the hard drive.
[21:43] <Guest64581> is there a newer version for the xorg with 10.04?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Stavros
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> !anyone
[21:43] <Twiple> windows came preinstalled
[21:43] <polleri> Hi i just did a clean new install of Ubuntu 10.10 and the terminal auto complition is not working anymore can someone help? sorry for my english
[21:43] <Twiple> but I want to clonezilla it
[21:43] <acicula> Guest64581: yes
[21:43] <amereservant> joneskoo: Yeah, the past three mobos I've bought had fake raid via onboard chipset and have all worked fine when switching between Windows/Linux.
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> Guest64581, yes
[21:43] <Twiple> but I am terrified
[21:43] <selofi> alguien  habla español?
[21:43] <reportingsjr> Twiple: you should be fine, but make sure you leave some room for windows. :)
[21:43] <Guest64581> thanks, lets hope it works better with flash & ati cards
[21:43] <joaopinto> !es | selofi
[21:43] <Mean_Admin> so I'm slowly losing; under 9.04, wifi worked like it cared. I upgraded to 9.10, wifi works no more. I leaped to 10 and it still doesn't work.. the wireless NIC is "unclaimed" it seems
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !es | selofi
[21:43] <bencc> what is the command to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04?
[21:43] <Twiple> what is clonezilla's computer wrecking potential?
[21:43] <Stavros> sebsebseb: sure, but it might be good to try out on a portable disk or something if it's easy to install in ubuntu...
[21:43] <reportingsjr> acicula: do you know what version of Xorg?
[21:43] <Guest64581> bencc: start ur update manager
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: System-Admin-Login screen
[21:43] <elnur> acicula, reportingsjr, aha. i thought that amd64 is only for amd cpus
[21:43] <reportingsjr> bencc: sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:43] <acicula> reportingsjr: just look at the package
[21:44] <reportingsjr> elnur: nope, just named that
[21:44] <s3r3n1t7> !upgrade | bencc
[21:44] <acicula> elnur: amd64 is the instruction set, which intel also implements
[21:44] <sebsebseb> Stavros: Ubuntu no, but  Fedora 13 will  have experimental support for it
[21:44] <bencc> thanks
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> !64bit
[21:44] <Exposure752> hello there
[21:44] <acicula> elnur: as a whole its referred to as x86_64
[21:44] <Stavros> sebsebseb: oh, interesting, thanks
[21:44] <reportingsjr> acicula: where can I find a package list/repo for 10.04?
[21:44] <abountu> LinuxGuy2009, thanks a lot
[21:44] <acicula> reportingsjr: pacakges.ubuntu.com
[21:44] <joneskoo> amereservant: it's perhaps different with a desktop. my solution is typically a network filesystem (samba, nfs). in that case LVM is great for managing the disk pool
[21:44] <ShibaKun> Ken8521: yes, I know about the community port.  There was in fact a 9.10 release that I'm using right now.
[21:44] <Mean_Admin> ah damn! it's OUT!? I just downloaded the ''unstable'' version this morning
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: your selcome
[21:44] <sebsebseb> Stavros:  Fedora 13 I  think already has it in development version
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> w*
[21:45] <s3r3n1t7> Mean_Admin, yeah it's out
[21:45] <polleri> can someone help me to get Terminal autocomplition working please? i just upgraded to 10.04 and it doesn't work anymore
[21:45] <ShibaKun> Ken8521: so I guess what you're saying is that there may well be such a port, but it isn't released with official releases
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> !language | Mean_Admin
[21:45] <sebsebseb> Stavros: not much point testing a file system really untill stable, unless your a file system developer
[21:45] <Ken8521> ShibaKun, well, according to ubottu the last PowerPC release was 7.10... so i'm not sure where you got 9.10.. not from anonical
[21:45] <Ken8521> ShibaKun, thats exactly what i'm saying
[21:45] <sl0sh> 'unstable' is teh same as 'stable' now...
[21:45] <A71KR117> Does anyone see any performance changes when using the FGLRX driver instead of the radeon one?
[21:45] <Mean_Admin> is it even worth I try to upgrade to stable version ?
[21:45] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: Where is your sense of adventure?
[21:45] <amereservant> joneskoo: Ohh, yeah, that would be a different story.  I can definitely see where LVM would be really nice for that.  It's somewhat the same concept of cloud servers, expand when you need without a major overhaul.
[21:46] <acicula> Mean_Admin: yeah
[21:46] <acicula> Mean_Admin: the difference will be marginal
[21:46] <Andorin> Does anybody know whether the version of Empathy included in Lucid supports connecting to XMPP servers besides Google Talk and Jabber? I asked in their IRC but nobody's talking.
[21:46] <LinuxGuy2009> A71KR117: Whats your real question?
[21:46] <elnur> reportingsjr, acicula, ok. got it. thanks
[21:46] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: oh I have it, I test software when in development here and there.   done Lucid since alpha 1  like this.
[21:46] <Twiple> where can I go for help with clonezilla?
[21:46] <A71KR117> LinuxGuy2009: Is it any better?
[21:46] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: did karmic etc
[21:46] <amereservant> Although I still haven't fully grasped how cloud servers work as in what role they all play together.
[21:46] <Kills> my hifi is still playing at the same time with my laptop speakers when its conencted
[21:46] <joneskoo> amereservant: for a server it's nice if you can partition first for a minimal install size and then extend the free space as REQUIRED, so you don't have to guess
[21:46] <s3r3n1t7> !sound | Kills
[21:46] <sebsebseb> amereservant: the cloud basically so you upload data to a server, and can access it from any Internet connected computer
[21:47] <joneskoo> amereservant: if you need more space, sure. lvextend and resize2fs or something and boom, you have more space without any downtime
[21:47] <sebsebseb> amereservant: of course cloud servers aren't perfect,  servers can go down,  plus there are privacy issues
[21:47] <porter1> Andorin, I bleieve so
[21:47] <LinuxGuy2009> !opinion | A71KR117
[21:47] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: Yes, but there you aren't risking your data! btrfs is where the real adrenaline junkies are at.
[21:47] <strange> !controls
[21:47] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: that's probably true yes
[21:48] <polleri> HOw can I enable terminal autocomplition on lucid ?
[21:48] <ShibaKun> tab?
[21:48] <amereservant> sebsebseb: Are they synced or does each one have it's own role and specific data to serve?
[21:48] <sebsebseb> !tab | polleri
[21:48] <plenty> Hi, I need help...
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: tab
[21:48] <sebsebseb> !ask | plenty
[21:48] <frybye> re: how to I change the default soundcard in lucid???
[21:48] <ShibaKun> plenty: I need help too.
[21:48] <ShibaKun> go see a doctor :)
[21:49] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, i know i use the terminal all the time but I just changed to Lucid and it doesn't work anymore
[21:49] <ddrj> i'm having problems getting audio over hdmi to work with my geforce 210 video card. i followed this guide but my video card's not showing up in alsamixer: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210,_GT220,_or_GT240
[21:49] <frybye> when running alsamixer it always starts with the wrong one - and there is in fact no sound avail.
[21:49] <lightbricko> Is it possible to connect to a SharedView server from Ubuntu?
[21:49] <ddrj> i have the nvidia 185 drvers
[21:49] <amereservant> sebsebseb: For instance, say I have two computers in the cloud and want to run an Apache server (overkill I know, just an example), which server runs the apache server and who holds the data?
[21:49] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, i doesn't work after sudo; apt-get; aptitude none of those commands
[21:49] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | ShibaKun
[21:49] <fwryan> I have a server running Ubuntu 8.04, is it advisable to upgrade to 10.04... or should I wait until the traffic dies down?
[21:49] <axolote> @ s3r3n1t7, Oops. I didn't realize that was a bot. If I may, another question. Can I boot into a live environment if I install onto a USB stick also? I did that with unetbootin (selecting the .iso I downloaded) and I get nothing but a black screen after the boot splash.
[21:49] <ShibaKun> LinuxGuy2009: I was jokingly referring to the other guy's post, I don't need help :)
[21:50] <joneskoo> fwryan: I'd wait a day or two
[21:50] <sebsebseb> amereservant: uhmm setting up your own cloud servers, is  off topic for  this channel,  plus above the knowledge of most Ubuntu users
[21:50] <plenty> How can I carry my boot options from a LiveCD over to the installation?
[21:50] <Guest64581> should i close every other program when upgrading from karmic to 10.04, or they can keep running?
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> fwryan, if it's a production server, you might want to wait up 10.04.1 even
[21:50] <stephen_netbook> hi all
[21:50] <joaopinto> axolote, yes, you can boot from a liveusb
[21:50] <stephen_netbook> is there a specific room for ubuntu netbook?
[21:50] <amereservant> sebsebseb: Alright.  Thanks anyways.
[21:50] <sebsebseb> amereservant: well unless in Ubuntu I guess
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> stephen_netbook, nope, this one
[21:50] <jdtm> welp, im going to the store to pickup more cd-r's and im gonna try the alternate install cd. if that dont work im just gonna give up and stick with windows
[21:50] <sebsebseb> amereservant: where to send you if anywhere,  #ubuntu-offtopic is probably useless for your cloud questions.   #ubuntu-server for the server edition and uhmmm the one channel maybe
[21:50] <fwryan> joneskoo: it's a test server, not used for anything -- but I'm concerned if the download fails I'll be in trouble
[21:50] <polleri> sebsebseb, I doesn't work on Lucid for some reason; I doesn't work after comands like sudo, aptitude etc
[21:50] <sebsebseb> !one | amereservant
[21:50] <s3r3n1t7> axolote, yes you can, it should work just fine. i haven't tried the latest version (that came out today) tho.
[21:51] <uLinux> lol adobe flash player doesnt work..
[21:51] <BitProcessor> can't install - blank screen right after the Ubuntu logo with the moving dots... :-(
[21:51] <plenty> How can I carry my boot options from a LiveCD over to the installation?
[21:51] <uLinux> BitProcessor dont install it
[21:51] <uLinux> karmic is better
[21:51] <stephen_netbook> ok, well i have it installed and its working great, apart from one thing D: , I am not able to access my wifi and my usb plug and play device is not working
[21:51] <sebsebseb> plenty: you can't unless you make your own ISO
[21:51] <axolote> @s3r3n1t7  Okay, I'll keep trying.  Thank you for your help.
[21:51] <BitProcessor> uLinux : don't install it ?
[21:51] <andy112233> Hi there. Third try: Why might 10.04 not recognize my USB storage devices (hard drive/USB-stick) but recognize my USB-printer? (karmic recognized all devices). Please help anyone. :-(
[21:51] <BitProcessor> did I miss something ?
[21:51] <zerocool> does shuttleworth speak afrikaans
[21:51] <plenty> sebsebseb, it worked on Hardy and Intrepid...
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !flash | uLinux
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !remaster | plenty
[21:52] <uLinux> firefox isnt installing flash
[21:52] <kopfweh> is there a boot spash on lucid server or is it just me?
[21:52] <LinuxGuy2009> !UCK | plenty
[21:52] <librano> What is the release party channel?
[21:52] <Twiple> Can someone here help me with Clonezilla?
[21:52] <reportingsjr> andy112233: is there nothing listed under places as your usb flash drive?
[21:52] <zerocool> does shuttleworth speak afrikaans
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> kopfweh, it's called Plymouth
[21:52] <joaopinto> uLinux, flash works fine here
[21:52] <BitProcessor> uLinux : why shouldn't I install it ?
[21:52] <joaopinto> !flash | uLinux
[21:52] <axolote> librano: #ubuntu-release-party
[21:52] <sebsebseb> zerocool: probably and that's off topic
[21:52] <uLinux> joaopinto aki n
[21:52] <LinuxGuy2009> librano: Lucid is here!
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !ot | zerocool
[21:52] <chadi> are the google chrome bookmarks in /home?
[21:53] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Yes. Nothing.
[21:53] <joaopinto> uLinux, please stop commenting about quality when you don't have any experience, flash is installed from the repositories, not from firefox
[21:53] <sebsebseb> zerocool: by the way there's an oppertunity to ask him next week
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> kopfweh, why it's needed on server is beyond me - something about mountall or something
[21:53] <joaopinto> !pt | uLinux
[21:53] <tat-> chadi: yes, ~/.config/chromium, i think
[21:53] <sebsebseb> !openweek | zerocool
[21:53] <spvensko> uLinux, flash seems to be working for me
[21:53] <uLinux> not for me
[21:53] <reportingsjr> andy112233: can you pastebin (http://pastebin.ca) the results when you open a terminal (under applications>accesories) and run the command lsusb
[21:53] <LinuxGuy2009>  chadi: Probably, you can also use bookmark sync for suncing between machines.
[21:53] <andy112233> Automount is active in gconf-editor under nautilus.
[21:53] <chadi> tat- ty, coz I want to do a clean install of lucid, i want my stuff to remain
[21:53] <andy112233> Moment.
[21:54] <BitProcessor> blank screen when trying to install (after the screen with ubuntu logo and dots) - system freezes
[21:54] <pdtpatrick> @gstock dndn
[21:54] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, I realized i don't have a bashrc file. is there a way of making the terminal create one?
[21:54] <stephen_netbook> anyone got any clue why wifi is not working on my netbook but LAN is?#
[21:54] <sebsebseb> !home | chadi
[21:54] <kopfweh> i use the server only with ssh aaaaaaannnd if it doesnt boot when there is a problem with a nonsystem disk its really bad
[21:54] <chadi> LinuxGuy2009 if they remain in home, no problem
[21:54] <BitProcessor> tries running with nomodeset, noacpti etc... no luck
[21:54] <axolote> bitprocessor: same here.
[21:54] <chazco> When does Ubuntu 9.10 reach it's end of life (e.g. no more updates)?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> chadi: yes some where in home I guess is where chrome stores it's bookmarks
[21:54] <BitProcessor> axolote : what graphics are you using ?
[21:54] <chadi> sebsebseb /home is already a partition on its own
[21:54] <sebsebseb> chazco: April next year, just like 8.04 on the desktop
[21:54] <Tohuw> !updates | chazco
[21:55] <Tohuw> errm
[21:55] <uLinux> !regression
[21:55] <barbarella> polleri:you can copy it from root
[21:55] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[21:55] <toyman61> How to update from Ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 ?
[21:55] <kallisto> help: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 Error 15: File not found
[21:55] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | toyman61
[21:55] <joaopinto> kopfweh, you can set it up so it boots with missing filesystems, a server admin is supposed to understand how to do it :)
[21:55] <tat-> toyman61: sudo do-release-upgrade in a terminal
[21:55] <chazco> sebsebseb - Ah okay, so i'm okay until then. Thanks :)
[21:55] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: how does pastebin work? Sorry. IRC-newbie.
[21:55] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: Make sure your home folder has the correct permission set for the whole folder?
[21:55] <uLinux> How can I downgrade from Lucid to Karmic
[21:55] <chadi> sebsebseb Now I want to format the karmic partition and do a clean install of lucid, but I have to link my /home partition to it... hope i find out how to do it during the installation
[21:55] <sebsebseb> chazco: yep :) and yep 9.10 is better than 10.04 in certain ways :D
[21:55] <tat-> uLinux: reinstall
[21:55] <joaopinto> uLinux, reinstalling
[21:55] <Tohuw> !eol | chazco
[21:55] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, how can I do that?
[21:55] <reportingsjr> andy112233: hmm, go to http://pastebin.com. It looks like .ca is down.  Just paste what was outputted in to the big box and hit submit then give me the link. :)
[21:56] <joaopinto> chadi, you can install over the existing partition without removing your /home
[21:56] <chazco> Thanks Tohuw :)
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> !downgrade
[21:56] <uLinux> i dont want to lose anything
[21:56] <kopfweh> yah i know how but im confused that this isnt a standard setting
[21:56] <toyman61> tat-, :  Thanx!!
[21:56] <joaopinto> uLinux, so backup your data and then reinstall
[21:56] <Kills> the link didint help
[21:56] <uLinux> ahahahaha
[21:56] <chazco> sebsebseb - Tell me about it... best version I ever used was 7.04 (i think).
[21:56] <StuckMojo> why does the offical site make it so hard to find things like release notes?
[21:56] <uLinux> are you kidding me
[21:56] <StuckMojo> i want to see specifically what's new in 10.04
[21:56] <`ph8> .23
[21:56] <chadi> joaopinto yeah, but don't I need to link it to /home?
[21:56] <uLinux> backing up hundreds of gb
[21:56] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[21:56] <sebsebseb> chazco: best one I used was 8.10  (even though ethernet didn't just work on other computer, but that one also needs a driver in XP before it works)
[21:57] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: ALT+F2, gksudo nautilus and right clicking /home/<username>, and verify that you are the owner of the whole folder.
[21:57] <bastid_raZor> !notes | StuckMojo
[21:57] <sebsebseb> chazco: sadly 8.10 goes end of life tommorwo
[21:57] <sebsebseb> tommorow
[21:57] <joaopinto> chadi, no, if it's already installed on the filesystem you just need to make sure you dont select to format the partition
[21:57] <sl0sh> tman_ try an older kernel
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> tman_, you should try booting with noacpi or noapic
[21:57] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Ups... made it public. The link is http://pastebin.com/hdW4KMJQ
[21:57] <StuckMojo> bastid_raZor: thx
[21:57] <chadi> joaopinto great news :-)
[21:57] <reportingsjr> andy112233: haha, doesn't matter if it is publice
[21:57] <frybye> Hi with lucid an fi-x extreem audio sound card all appears to be set correctly but still no sound - any ideas??
[21:57] <BitProcessor> tman, I get the ubuntu logo with the moving dots, but blank screen after that
[21:57] <chazco> sebsebseb - Ah well, hopefully they'll return to that sort of release.
 i love ubuntu so much, I want to take it behind school and make it pregnant
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> BitProcessor,  you should try booting with noacpi or noapic
[21:57] <mezy> I have just installed 10.04 LTS through Wubi but for some reason I cannot boot into Ubuntu.
[21:57] <sebsebseb> chazco: it doesn't seem like it,  they are doing more stuff  now that isn't  upstream when it comes to Gnome, and they want to make things more like Mac OS X
[21:58] <toyman61> ubottu, :  Thanx
[21:58] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Okay.... for your info: Have a 4 GB stick and a 500 GB hard drive installed. Neither is recognized.
[21:58] <spvensko> zerocool, are you leet?
[21:58] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[21:58] <Jaymac> why hasn't the ubuntu website been updated with the new branding?
[21:58] <spvensko> zerocool, hack the planet!
[21:58] <tman_> but the cd is still spining in the drive
[21:58] <frybye> any special url for sound problems with --lucid--??
[21:58] <joaopinto> Jaymac, find a canonical related channel to ask that :P
[21:58] <reportingsjr> andy112233: both are currently plugged in?  Your 4gb flash drive is recognized, but your 500 gig is not.
[21:58] <tman_> and i have no errors before this happens
[21:58] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, I am the owner it is fine
[21:58] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[21:58] <reportingsjr> andy112233: pastebin the results of running dmesg please.
[21:58] <`ph8> hi all - i've just updated to lucid, xchat suddenly says "you must send your password first!" when i'm trying to connect to my bouncer, i've been using it for a long time - the format is /server host +port username:password
[21:58] <sebsebseb> mezy: is Windows on C?
[21:58] <tman_> but the cd is still spining in the drive
[21:58] <`ph8> any idea why this wouldn't work in newxchat?
[21:58] <tman_> and i have no errors before this happens
[21:59] <mezy> sebsebseb: Yes.
[21:59] <sebsebseb> mezy: ok  well don't know then
[21:59] <andy112233> @reportingsjr:  Yes. Both are plugged in. I'll check again.
[21:59] <reportingsjr> `ph8: you may want to ask in the xchat channel. Probably something to do with a new version of xchat.
[21:59] <tman_> my other os crunchbang is working fine with my monitor
[21:59] <mezy> That's weird
[21:59] <sebsebseb> mezy: also Wubi is uesaully ok for trying, but in the long run bettter off using, a proper partitioend install
[21:59] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: So gnome-terminal isnt keeping your command history thats the issue?
[21:59] <jcbv> anyone get compiz working on old nvidia
[21:59] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Yes. Both are. Shell I unplug the hard drive and repaste the lsusb?
[21:59] <prayii> anyone know what the hash code is for the amd64-desktop iso?
[22:00] <reportingsjr> andy112233: no, pastebin the results of running dmesg please.  Leave both plugged in.
[22:00] <`ph8> reportingsjr, silly me, thanks
[22:00] <LinuxGuy2009> jcbv: Perhaps restate that into a question about your experience so we can help you with your experience?
[22:00] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, I have no clue. I just know the autocomplition is not working and i didn't have a .bashrc file in my desktop
[22:00] <sebsebseb> jcbv: I think you need a relitvely new card for Compiz,  new as in uhmmm last few years
[22:00] <reportingsjr> `ph8: heh, I just figure xchat people would know more about it. :)
[22:00] <Berk> just wondering if anyone else is experiencing extremely slow speeds on the torrent?
[22:00] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, i mean home foler sorry
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> prayii, if you mean MD5 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448 *ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:00] <sebsebseb> Berk: yes others were
[22:00] <sl0sh> i changed the and now i want it back to 'lucid lynx' but there is no such theme :O what to do?
[22:00] <mezy> I am brought to the windows boot manager when booting. It lets me click ubuntu to boot up, but then I am brought to the GRUB boot loader and Windows is the only option to choose from
[22:00] <tman_> i've had 9.10 working on it too with no problems at all.
[22:00] <sebsebseb> sl0sh: you changed what?
[22:00] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[22:01] <sl0sh> heh the theme
[22:01] <elnur> How to change default system in grub from command line?
[22:01] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[22:01] <sl0sh> look and feel of gnome
[22:01] <tman_> i've had 9.10 working on it too with no problems at all.
[22:01] <Berk> sebsebseb: thanks, as i'm being told it will take 5 days :D glad i'm not the only one then
[22:01] <sebsebseb> sl0sh: Ambiance and Radience are the new 10.04 themes
[22:01] <reportingsjr> elnur: you have to edit the order in grub.conf
[22:01] <prayii> ZykoticK9: thank you. For future reference where can I find that? It wasn't listed yet in the wiki
[22:01] <elnur> reportingsjr, no special tools for that?
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Berk: I know they say get from torrents blah de blah, but you can try FTP or HTTP instead
[22:02] <REMIX> happy release day every body! can some one help me? what do i type in my terminal to upgrade from my netbook remix 9.10 to 10.04 LTS
[22:02] <reportingsjr> elnur: not really.  The list should be in /boot/grub/menu.lst and you can change them around there. Don't change anything other than order, though.
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> prayii, sorry there was a link posted earlier and i copied all them to a text file - not sure where it is
[22:02] <sl0sh> ok, i remembered it different, but i guess youre right
[22:02] <sl0sh> thanks
[22:02] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: HUGE PASTE @ http://pastebin.com/hdCnUxiV
[22:02] <sebsebseb> Berk: also maybe you need a port open for the torrents in your router?
[22:02] <joaopinto> !grub
[22:02] <reportingsjr> REMIX: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:02] <sebsebseb> Berk: a port open to speed things up a bit
[22:02] <joaopinto> !grub2
[22:02] <Berk> sebsebseb: i'll carry on with the torrent, and do my best to keep it seeded too, if everyone gives up it'll stay slow
[22:02] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[22:02] <reportingsjr> andy112233: It's fine if it's huge.
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > tman_
[22:02] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[22:02] <Twiple> when backing something up on clonezilla, should I clone the whole disk or just the needed partitions?
[22:03] <sebsebseb> tman_: some sort of plymouth issue by the sounds of it
[22:03] <sebsebseb> tman_: is that an old computer?
[22:03] <votex> hi
[22:03] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, if i run the terminal as root autocomplition doesn't work either can I uninstall gnome-terminal and intall it again?
[22:03] <Frap> my friend is sad and have loveproblem, what can be done about it?
[22:03] <Berk> i'll leave you ladies and gents to release day carnage, laters
[22:03] <sebsebseb> !ot | Frap
[22:03] <Frap> yes but i dont know where else to ask
[22:03] <Frap> oh
[22:03] <dominicdinada> !bw3
[22:03] <tman_> 4 years old
[22:04] <barbarella> reportingsjr:it depends with grub2 it is /etc/default/grub
[22:04] <dominicdinada> !b43
[22:04] <elnur> reportingsjr, seems like things have changed with grub 2
[22:04] <reportingsjr> andy112233: I'll try to deal with the flash drive first.  Can you check if it is listed in the folder /media/?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> tman_: does it say on the boot up,  Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[22:04] <reportingsjr> barbarella: ah, did not know that. Sorry
[22:04] <emorris> hi, what does the "recommended" option do for partitioning?
[22:04] <Zelozelos> anybody use Gwinwrap?
[22:04] <reportingsjr> elnur: as barbarella said, it's in /etc/default/grub
[22:04] <oyoy> I already had the release candidate for 10.04 installed... will the update manager prompt me about a new version or not now that 10.04 official is out?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> oyoy: you can install the updates yourself to the final
[22:04] <Alienarch> is KDE or gnome better for a server gui?
[22:05] <reportingsjr> oyoy: it should just be like normal upgrades, not a new release.
[22:05] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: It is not.
[22:05] <tman_> no it doesn't say anything its just a purple screen
[22:05] <sebsebseb> Alienarch: for real servers,  neither
[22:05] <kopfweh> server gui?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !server | Alienarch
[22:05] <oyoy> sebsebseb: is that automatic?  i just checked update manager and says no updates are out there.  i had no updates at all today
[22:05] <kopfweh> lol
[22:05] <elnur> reportingsjr, i have missed that because the message was not addressed to me
[22:05] <dominicdinada> blah I cant get the yum package or the b43 fwcutter any ideas with 10.4 ?
[22:05] <Alienarch> yeah well I am too much of a noob, I cant get webmind downloaded on the server to ionstall it lol
[22:05] <sebsebseb> oyoy: maybe since the repos aren't working propelry
[22:05] <reportingsjr> elnur: that's why I said it to you. :)
[22:05] <Alienarch> webmin*
[22:05] <oyoy> sebsebseb: ok thanks i'll just wait and try later
[22:05] <sebsebseb> oyoy: I think the repos aren't working properly at the moment, since the amount of people doing Lucid
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> !webmin > Alienarch
[22:05] <sebsebseb> oyoy: you should have been offered a few updates, unless you updated really recently
[22:06] <Zelozelos> im trying to figure out how to have multiple options such as for xmatrix '-small -no-trace -delay 83898' it seems to have an issue with the spaces between each trigger
[22:06] <oyoy> sebsebseb: i updated last night i think
[22:06] <reportingsjr> andy112233: hmm, pastebin sudo blkid (all one command. `sudo blkid`)
[22:06] <Alienarch> oh sweet ebox ok
[22:06] <littlepenguin> 1 hr remaining of installing..
[22:06] <Alienarch> !ebox
[22:06] <pablo_> people please help...
[22:06] <dominicdinada> !fwcutter
[22:06] <jcbv> no compiz in here or what
[22:06] <sebsebseb> !ask  | pablo_
[22:06] <pablo_> how acces to mi files from other sistem
[22:06] <Zelozelos> each trigger works, they all work in a terminal, but if i enter a triger into the options space and have a space after it, it hangs
[22:06] <sebsebseb> pablo_: What does the other system run Windows?
[22:06] <pablo_> my files are encript
[22:07] <pablo_> sebsebseb, no
[22:07] <sebsebseb> pablo_: oh encryptin hrm
[22:07] <pablo_> other ubuntu
[22:07] <sebsebseb> pablo_: encryption can go wrong etc  well if you use the Ubuntu One
[22:07] <dominicdinada> Anyone get fwcutter on 10.4 yet ?
[22:07] <sebsebseb> pablo_: Ubuntu encryption, not that Ubuntu cloud software
[22:07] <pablo_> sebsebseb, i am in ubuntu 9.10
[22:07] <j800r> the ubuntu 10.4 theme is awesome!
[22:07] <pablo_> i want acces to my files
[22:07] <sebsebseb> j800r: no it isn't
[22:07] <pablo_> but this are encrypt
[22:07] <pablo_> :S
[22:08] <sebsebseb> j800r: The old brown human theme before 9.10, so a bit of orange as well,  for the win, seriously!
[22:08] <j800r> are you serious??
[22:08] <sonja> someone traineed in the application "wine"?
[22:08] <j800r> the human theme was bloody aweful, lol
[22:08] <sebsebseb> j800r: indeed as an expereinced user since second release in 2005, that for me is the Ubuntu look,  none of this newer junkw
[22:08] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Paste is at http://pastebin.com/5bBvQwDs. I am actually trying to connect other devices. So far each one's listed in lsusb, none's mounted.
[22:08] <lightbricko> Can I set the default remote desktop viewer (vinagre) to listen-mode?
[22:09] <j800r> sebsebseb, if you're afraid of change, go back to an earlier release lol
[22:09] <sebsebseb> !vnc > lightbricko
[22:09] <elnur> reportingsjr, changed it. thank you :)
[22:09] <j800r> personally, i love it, and i'm sure i'm probs not the only one
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> For those wanting the old theme simply install - human-theme
[22:09] <sebsebseb> j800r: no, since can use the older theme on Lucid :)
[22:09] <reportingsjr> elnur: any time :)
[22:09] <sebsebseb> j800r: once installed from repo
[22:09] <j800r> lol, your mad :P
[22:09] <j800r> *you're
[22:09] <sonja> someone traineed in wine???
[22:09] <j800r> to each their own bud
[22:10] <sebsebseb> j800r: also a lot of the 10.04 changes are sucky really for expereinced users such as myself, but for other people they are good.  I mean top right panel changes that kind of thing.   Ubuntu on other computer,  another distro on this one these days.  anyway off topic
[22:10] <Cinnabelle> Hey everyone~ I just installed 10.04 and so far, it hangs after running for a few minutes and I have to restart.
[22:10] <lightbricko> thanks sebsebseb!
[22:10] <sonja> ok,bye
[22:10] <thevor> Hey. has anyone updated from 9.10 to 10.04? Know if it's a bad or good move?
[22:10] <oyoy> sonja: just ask your question...
[22:10] <sebsebseb> thevor: so far no major complaints like  what happended quite a lot, when people upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10
[22:11] <clrg> Cinnabelle: X error messages, dmesg, /var/log/messages.. checked those?
[22:11] <thevor> I mean, should I wipe and reinstall, or can I just update with update maanager?
[22:11] <Spank> hello
[22:11] <madchine> can anybody tell me the name and size(s) og the font in 'Ambiance theme'?
[22:11] <Spank> guys is there any 64bit for intel processor?
[22:11] <Cinnabelle> clrg: I don't know how to do that... :D
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> Spank, AMD64 works for Intel
[22:11] <thevor> @sebsebseb thanks, do you knwo if updating is a safe move? I've wanted to try just updating before, but never know if it's a good move, but I hate wipping and reinstalling.
[22:11] <George_E> Spank: ??
[22:11] <sebsebseb> thevor: so good move I guess, but not such a good idea at the moment, since loads of other people are downloading it, so upgrade will be slow
[22:11] <Spank> are you sure?
[22:11] <clrg> Cinnabelle: Type "dmesg | grep -i err | tail" or so
[22:11] <thevor> @sebsebseb ok cool thanks.
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> Spank, yes
[22:12] <reportingsjr> andy112233: ookay.  Try this! `mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/I`
[22:12] <Spank> so i better download the 64 bit
[22:12] <Spank> thanks
[22:12] <thevor> @sebsebseb so when I do want to update, I can just run update manager, and it will install 10.04 right?
[22:12] <Kills> any1 how do I make my speakers stop working after when i connecdt my headphones?
[22:12] <j800r> i upgraded to 10.04 just now from 9.10. gonna burn a live cd of 10.04 though and install that. cause i don't live upgrading to major new releases
[22:12] <sebsebseb> thevor: I plan to upgrade other computer on Saturday, the repo's will probably be alright then, but maybe not
[22:12] <Kills> on a laptop
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> !update > thevor
[22:12] <barbarella> thevor:http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[22:12] <strange> after installing nvidia driver (from nvidia ppa) my terminal resolution is very low (ctrl+alt+F1-F9) anyone know where to change the resolution for that?
[22:12] <thevor> @barbarella thanks
[22:12] <thevor> you too ubottu
[22:12] <sebsebseb> thevor: I think at the moment, they are having issues, but not sure exactly
[22:13] <elnur> After trying to boot windows, now i can't boot my ubuntu and I get grub rescue> command prompt.
[22:13] <sebsebseb> !thanks | thevor
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> strange, that's normal - affects Plymouth as well
[22:13] <thevor> oh i know it's a bot.
[22:13] <Flamey> What's this Retrieving file 17 of 28 in ubiquity?
[22:13] <thevor> just seemed like the polite thing to do
[22:13] <sebsebseb> elnur: clean install or upgrade?
[22:13] <morrowyn> hi, how do i upgrade from 10.04 beta to release?
[22:13] <strange> ZykoticK9: is there a fix? before installing the nvidia driver the resolution is alot higher
[22:13] <sebsebseb> elnur: also it's 10.04 I assume?
[22:13] <Cinnabelle> clrg: I got http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/uWbMEkJT
[22:13] <andy112233> reportingsjr: sudo mkdir /media/I | sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/I worked out properly.
[22:13] <elnur> sebsebseb, yea, 10.05
[22:13] <elnur> sebsebseb, clean install
[22:13] <TheAkuma> bitoku ^^
[22:14] <sebsebseb> morrowyn: by installing the updates, but I think rep's are bad at the moment.  also maybe won't get all the features installed properly, since it was the beta
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> strange, probably NOT worth the effort - but you can use VESA frame buffer -- http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/plymouth-resolution
[22:14] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | elnur
[22:14] <reportingsjr> andy112233: and can you now access your flash drive?
[22:14] <s3r3n1t7> !slow | sebsebseb ;-)
[22:14] <sebsebseb> s3r3n1t7: yes I know that factoid exists :D
[22:14] <sebsebseb> s3r3n1t7: used it earlier
[22:14] <s3r3n1t7> sebsebseb, i'm lovin it!
[22:14] <faruk> http://shiftdelete.net/ubuntu-10.04-cikti-20203.html
[22:14] <clrg> Cinnabelle: Nothing interesting so far. Could you do a "dmesg | tail -n 150"?
[22:15] <sebsebseb> s3r3n1t7: the factoid or 10.04?
[22:15] <s3r3n1t7> sebsebseb, both
[22:15] <andy112233> reportingsjr: With "worked properly", I implied "yes, I can access it (read-only)." :-)
[22:15] <strange> ZykoticK9: i did that already it only makes the grub menu high res, not the console as a whole
[22:15] <phil123> hi there... will Ubuntu 10.04 RC automatically upgrade to the final version next days?
[22:15] <madchine> anybody? the name and size of the font in the new ambiance theme? i already managed to fuck it up.... :(
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> strange, no idea then sorry
[22:15] <sebsebseb> phil123: no
[22:15] <sebsebseb> phil123: you have to do it yourself
[22:15] <strange> ZykoticK9: k thx anyways
[22:16] <Seeker`> !language | madchine
[22:16] <reportingsjr> andy112233: might be read only because you had to mount with sudo.  Not sure there, sorry.
[22:16] <Cinnabelle> clrg: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/JXznSm1T
[22:16] <madchine> sorry
[22:16] <LinuxGuy2009> phil123: if you have all updates installed right now, then you have the final.
[22:16] <KEFIR> I've downloaded alternate cd, running update with gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade, but in the middle of getting packages from the .iso updater still trying to connect to the internet and show an error about that. is that normal?
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> !final > phil123
[22:16] <reportingsjr> andy112233: now, for that 500 gig.  Can you unplug it, plug it back in, and then pastebin `dmesg | tail -n 150`.
[22:16] <LinuxGuy2009> !final
[22:16] <BrokenTrace> Ok here is another problem. Trying to upgrade to lucid from karmic and I would get the error " Could Not Calculate the upgrade". I removed a few PPAs then it failed again. Searehed the logs and it says "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". Synaptic package manager does not show and borpen packages
[22:16] <votex> Kills : Please check your handset, try putting a different one. OR could be problem with the pins.
[22:17] <andy112233> reportingsjr: I have quite a few devices. Have you any clue why lucid won't automount?
[22:17] <phil123> !final
[22:17] <barbarella> andy112233:i think you have a bad partition if sudo doesn;t work
[22:17] <sebsebseb> BrokenTrace: uhmmm  not a good idea to upgrade at the moment, since things may be slow
[22:17] <s3r3n1t7> KEFIR, if you've updated while connected to the internet and the package you're trying to get has released a new update in the repo's it will still download it from the repo's and not the alternate CD, since it's outdated on that package.
[22:17] <reportingsjr> andy112233: no, not sure what exactly is wrong. =\
[22:17] <BluesKaj> hmm, the upgrade to lucid was an anticlimax in my case...guess I was already there before the so called official release
[22:17] <sebsebseb> BrokenTrace: since the amount of other people doing it
[22:17] <phil123> ok thx @ all
[22:17] <reportingsjr> andy112233: and you say versions before lucid automounted fine?
[22:17] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: ppa's get disabled on upgrade I think
[22:17] <BrokenTrace> sebsebseb: Maybe Ill wait :D
[22:17] <Mohammad[B]> how i can upgrade ubuntu 10.04 rc to latest release ?
[22:17] <j800r> sebsebseb, tell me about it. upgrade/update servers were slowed to a crawl earlier lol
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> !final > Mohammad[B]
[22:18] <sebsebseb> Mohammad[B]: by instaling the updates like you do for security updates,  but may get issues with that at the moment,  since the amount of people wanting Lucid
[22:18] <crk> hey, Im sure someone else must've reported this as well, but there's no Seeders on the Ubuntu-10.04-i386-DVD torrent
[22:18] <j800r> i should've just downloaded the ISO in the first place
[22:18] <clrg> Cinnabelle: I can't find anything suspicious. Have you tried googling the error? Also, your graphics card seems to be quite old (64MB VRAM..)
[22:18] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, disabled ? what ppas ?
[22:18] <pmichael> I don't get it - boot 10.4 install CD and it wants a login?  I haven't installed yet
[22:18] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: I thought thye mentioned ppa's
[22:18] <crk> everyone's stuck at around 4 %
[22:18] <sebsebseb> crk: heh heh
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> pmichael, tried Ubuntu as user with no password?
[22:18] <Cinnabelle> clrg: It really is. :D My whole computer really~
[22:19] <Cinnabelle> clrg: I guess I'll go to google~ <3 Thanks for trying to help.
[22:19] <reportingsjr> ZykoticK9: I think it may be ubuntu for both username and password?
[22:19] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Yes. koala did excellently. lucid crashed while installing so I had to install from the live-version. grub had to be fixed first but then everything seemed to work fine (except automount). I included my internal drives into fstab, but really need automount for my external drives.
[22:19] <KEFIR> s3r3n1t7, I even tried to pull my internet cable out, how do updater realize files are outdated? how to turn off this?
[22:19] <pmichael> ZykoticK9: tried that - can't even find any instructions for installing - why would it be so different?
[22:19] <mezimezim> I have been using aptitude to do updates, is it OK to use the update manager to switch to 10.04 (I assume it uses apt-get) - might I encounter dependencies problems?
[22:19] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, i don't have any ppas in my sources.list
[22:19] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, this is dont have any updates :-s
[22:19] <s3r3n1t7> KEFIR, I"m not sure if you can to be honest. Some patience is probably best, or try switching a mirror
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> reportingsjr, my only uncertainty is Ubuntu or ubuntu - but it's no password for sure (unless it's changed in 10.04)
[22:19] <s3r3n1t7> !mirrors | KEFIR
[22:19] <clrg> Cinnabelle: I'm sorry I can't help you more, but I'm not a graphics specialist :)
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> Mohammad[B], then you're at Final
[22:20] <j800r> people have been having problems installing 10.04? upgrade smooth as hell for me? o.0
[22:20] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, http://paste.ubuntu.com/424846/
[22:20] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, please see that
[22:20] <j800r> *minus ?
[22:20] <sebsebseb> I have done it again BluesKaj   I was meant to message BrokenTrace
[22:20] <KEFIR> I got alternate from mirrors
[22:20] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, is this ok ?
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, doesn't show anything you didn't just say - looks like you're up-to-date
[22:20] <gabriel> has the question about slightly blurry fonts in apps in lucid been answered already?
[22:20] <MohammadAG> ?
[22:20] <kennyt> How often does the mirror list on ubuntu.com regenerate?
[22:20] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:21] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, thanks :-)
[22:21] <mustafa> is there a way to install sun jdk 6 on ubuntu 10.04?
[22:21] <Mahara> How can I easily switch from a bultin card to a USB-speaker card in Ubuntu 10.04 so that I can playback audio on the USB-speaker
[22:21] <MohammadAG> ZykoticK9, wrong person :)
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> mustafa, add the partner repo
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, sorry man :)
[22:21] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: so easy to mess up auto complete
[22:21] <KEFIR> okay, it seems I have to update from internet anyway) thanks for help, s3r3n1t7
[22:21] <MohammadAG> ZykoticK9, no worries :)
[22:21] <MikeChelen> Mahara: look in sound preferences, in the output tab
[22:21] <elnur> anyone knows ho to launch recovery partition on asus k50in notebook?
[22:21] <LinuxGuy2009> Mahara: I have no clue what your asking.Maybe check your terminalogy and come back?
[22:21] <BrokenTrace> heh
[22:22] <genio> after upgrading today, im-switch keeps throwing errors everywhere.  Is this common?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> elnur: I think you want ##windows
[22:22] <mustafa> ZykoticK9 how?
[22:22] <dominicdinada> I have a question can anybody help
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> mustafa, see note on http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[22:22] <RegressLess> Is there a good multi-processor system monitor that makes for good eyecandy?
[22:22] <jmknsd> I have a problem on 9.10, It mounts the DVD-RW as /dev/sr0. It can play CDs and when I boot to windows I can play DVDs. Is there some way to force it to see it as a DVD player?
[22:22] <Xcell> elnur  f9  ?
[22:22] <Alcor> what was party channel name?
[22:22] <K0HAX> awesome, started doing the distro upgrade to 10.04, it was peaking my internet connection, but now it's down to 6000 bytes per second
[22:22] <sebsebseb> akgraner: #ubuntu-release-party
[22:22] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | dominicdinada
[22:22] <arcade> So, just installed a newer Ubuntu version .. and one of my immediate annoyances is that if I press ctrl+c in an xterm, I see ^C on the line...
[22:22] <pmp6nl> ubuntu-release-party
[22:22] <callaghan> I just set up Ubuntu 10.04, I have a problem with my sound preferences, they look like this: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1548/screenshotsoundpreferen.png , at the setting in the pic my speakers are veeeery silent, and at the next marker they have max volume. Is there an easy way to fix this?
[22:22] <mustafa> ZykoticK9, thank you.
[22:22] <barbarella> andy112233:try fdisk /dev/yourexternaldrive than the p option. Does it look ok?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> no not akgraner   ,but yes Alcor
[22:23] <pmichael> why would you have to login to install?
[22:23] <Alcor> thx
[22:23] <dominicdinada> LinuxGuy I asked the Question 4 times with not even a hello so I am continuing to ask to get someones attention
[22:23] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:23] <joule> n #ske
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> pmichael, i've see that with older ubuntu installs as well - not sure why it happens
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> WOW lol
[22:23] <pmichael> I'm booting a system with a blank hard disk - booting to the 10.4 i386 CD
[22:23] <elnur> Xcell, nope
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> #ubuntu almost has 2,000 people!
[22:23] <luisico> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu 10.4 and it works like a charm, congratulations
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> Dougdoug4, it was over 2000 earlier
[22:23] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: not right now, but it was earlier or just over
[22:23] <KIAaze> is it just me or does the http://www.soslynx.org/ site (linked to from the ubuntu music store presentation) not work at all?
[22:23] <Xcell> elnur, is that the eee modle  ?
[22:24] <luisico> i've only a question, I've plugged mi ipod touch and nothing happens
[22:24] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: or maybe a bit under, I mean there are bots in here as well
[22:24] <reportingsjr> andy112233: sorry about that.  I think I have a fix for your solution.
[22:24] <elnur> Xcell, no
[22:24] <Xcell> ok
[22:24] <andy112233> reportingsjr: great. Let me hear. :o)
[22:24] <jon604> Hey guys  setup a SVN with trac, and the trac and SVN get their accounts from the same htpasswd file, but the svn wont let me login while the trac will, any ideas?
[22:24] <luisico> anybody can say if i have to do any tricky thing?
[22:24] <dominicdinada> !bot help
[22:24] <luisico> thanks
[22:24] <reportingsjr> andy112233: cd to /lib/udev/rules.d/ and run `mv 85-hdparm.rules 85-hdparm.rules.disabled`
[22:24] <reportingsjr> andy112233: tell me the results when you are done.  That should fix it!
[22:24] <datacrusher> hello everyone, im trying to update from 9.10 to 10.04, but it claims that my / folder gots no enough space. i got / on different partiton than /home, and i dunno what more can i delete to free that space.. any clues?
[22:25] <Dougdoug4> 9 minutes remaining on my 10.04 download
[22:25] <melvster> just upgraded my desktop to lucid lynx, but it's missing the me bar / calendar / login / logout ... can I readd them to the panel?
[22:25] <LinuxGuy2009> datacrusher: how much free space do you have?
[22:25] <datacrusher> i got 24gb
[22:25] <sebsebseb> melvster: what's that about login and log out?
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> melvster, Add to panel - the two Indicator Applets
[22:26] <funkycat90210> windows 7 crashed on me the day lenny is released, that is a sign
[22:26] <melvster> sebsebseb: im missing the icont that normally appear at the right
[22:26] <datacrusher> on df i got 72% used on /, 2469428 free
[22:26] <brzezik> witam
[22:26] <sebsebseb> melvster:  no shut down and log out in system menu,  if you have the me menu  / fusa  on top right enabled,
[22:26] <barbarella> datacrusher: that is one partition?
[22:26] <brzezik> i have a problem with kadu
[22:26] <datacrusher> sorry, i did df -h now
[22:26] <melvster> sebsebseb: i restarted 4 times
[22:26] <harjot> whats the quickest way to very temporarily host php files anywhere, or at least view them in a web browser, as mine dont like it
[22:26] <brzezik> what is the best program?
[22:26] <arcade> Humpfh.  Upgraded my Ubuntu, and now Ubuntu prints ^C in the terminal if I press ctrl+c.  Annoying - how do I turn this 'feature' off?
[22:26] <datacrusher> well, i got 8.9gb on / partition, disp. 2.4 gb
[22:26] <sebsebseb> melvster: most of the stuff on the top right sucks really,  but  most users have no idea
[22:26] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Renamed. Alas, Devices are still not automounted. :-(
[22:27] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:27] <datacrusher> on partition /home i got 39gb used, 17g free
[22:27] <LinuxGuy2009> !best | brzezik
[22:27] <votex> datacrusher : Try for the computer Janitor..may be he will give you some more space!
[22:27] <datacrusher> my / is /dev/sda2, and my home is /dev/sda4
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> arcade, that's the default behaviour - ctrl+c is quit
[22:27] <harjot> whats the quickest way to very temporarily host php files anywhere, or at least view them in a web browser, as mine dont like it
[22:27] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:27] <reportingsjr> andy112233: you /may/ have to restart, although I am not positive about this.  Simply because udev is more of a core program.  Try restarting and come back here and message me when you have, ok?
[22:27] <playmo> Whats the difference between the alternate and desktop edition?
[22:27] <Dougdoug4> UBUNTU 10.04 GAVE ME HERPES
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !alternate | playmo
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !desktop | playmo
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> playmo, Desktop = LiveCD - alternate is text only install
[22:28] <arcade> ZykoticK9: The default behavior of ctrl+c in an xterm w/bash in unix has always been to print a newline and the prompt again, without any silly ^C at the EOL.
[22:28] <melvster> sebsebseb: thanks, ive been throught the applet options about 10 times, I cant see what to add to get the me bar, or 'start' button or calendar ... any tips?
[22:28] <LinuxGuy2009> harjot: Ubuntu One?
[22:28] <datacrusher> votex, ill get it
[22:28] <andy112233> reportingsjr: I will. Thanks a lot.
[22:28] <jmknsd> I have a problem on 9.10, It mounts the DVD-RW as /dev/sr0. It can play CDs and when I boot to windows I can play DVDs. Is there some way to force it to see it as a DVD player?
[22:28] <harjot> LinuxGuy2009: ?
[22:28] <barbarella> datacrusher:try to remove some log files and temp dirs, but that will only solve it temporary
[22:28] <LinuxGuy2009> !libdvdcss | jmknsd
[22:28] <litropy> Hi, peeps. The graphics card on the Intel Atom n270 supports better than VESA, right?
[22:28] <playmo> ZykoticK9, So i can use the alternate to do a normal install?
[22:29] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:29] <sebsebseb> melvster: what's missing exactly the me menu? and   their edited fast user account switcher applet?
[22:29] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I have that installed and set up
[22:29] <detrix> I have Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty), I do not want to upgrade, but I do want to get the latest version of firefox (3.6)  how do I get Jaunty to do this?
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> playmo, "normal" sorta - it's text only, where the "normal" is GUI
[22:29] <LinuxGuy2009> !multibuntu | jmknsd:
[22:29] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install in 10.4 why is this
[22:29] <arcade> ZykoticK9: So, how do I turn off this nice printing of ctrl+c ?
[22:29] <genio> my locale is set properly, but im-switch is all messed up.  what is im-switch even for?
[22:29] <LinuxGuy2009> !medibuntu | jmknsd
[22:29] <playmo> So the alternate does not have GNOME ?
[22:29] <melvster> sebsebseb: yes the me menu is missing, and the old applet that showed my user logged in, that lets me restart etc., and the calendar
[22:29] <datacrusher> what does janitor do? it removes only trash or it will remove my installed packages?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> melvster: ok got shut down and log out in the system menu?
[22:30] <CalifGuy_> my pc got both dvd-rom and cd-burner
[22:30] <CalifGuy_> cd-burner is not recognized
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> arcade, no idea man - all i have to say is CTRL+C works differently on my system(s) then yours, my ctrl+c quits stuff
[22:30] <CalifGuy_> how to fix it?
[22:30] <melvster> sebsebseb: yes logout and switch user are the only 2 options
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> !alternate | playmo
[22:30] <Twiple> OK, I have a question about dual booting
[22:30] <aquachica> Has anyone upgraded their netbook wtih the Netbook Edition?
[22:30] <AskNick> Anybody have 10.4 running on a Tablet PC? Having trouble with cursor in tablet mode.
[22:30] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I don't think the restricted formats are the problems, I think the problem is it loading the DVD is SCSI or something similar
[22:30] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I cannot even pull the data off of the DVD
[22:30] <Twiple> last time a tried dual booting, I messed it up badly, GRUB would not boot windows
[22:30] <arcade> ZykoticK9: Ctrl+C sends a signal if you have a running application in the foreground.  It also gives you a nice new line, if you - for example - has written half of a command but then remember that you forgot another command in front.  You press ctrl+c, get a new line without executing the previous line (but with the entire line visible right above).
[22:31] <Twiple> how can I avoid this?
[22:31] <arcade> ZykoticK9: This nice little ^C at the EOL makes cut and pasting a pain.
[22:31] <LinuxGuy2009>  jmknsd: Commercial DVDs wont play thats your issue?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> Twiple: With 10.04 RC?
[22:31] <sebsebseb> melvster: ok good, well that's how it is meant to be according to  upstream Gnome, but starting with Ubuntu 9.04,  Canonical decided to mess with that, whilst having the edited fast user account swither enabled on  the top right.  So even  though even though those changes aren't upstream I guess you still want them, well I have an idea that may fix it.
[22:31] <archy008> is it safe to update from 9.10? any particular caveats so far?
[22:31] <litropy> Hi, peeps. The graphics card on the Intel Atom n270 supports better than VESA, right?
[22:31] <Twiple> I was thinking 10.04 normal
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> arcade, i'm guilty of accidentally trying to copy with ctrl+c in terminal too oftern, and i see the ^C
[22:31] <acicula> litropy, it should yeah
[22:31] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, that is part of the problem, but even when I try and simply copy from the dvd it will error
[22:32] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Try just running "sudo update-grub"
[22:32] <arcade> ZykoticK9: Right.  I want the ugly ^C turned off. :)
[22:32] <Twiple> ok
[22:32] <melvster> sebsebseb: right now i have no obvious option on how to turn my computer off, or restart, or suspend, apart from hitting the power switch ...
[22:32] <LinuxGuy2009>  jmknsd: libdvdcss is required and I would recomend restricted extras.
[22:32] <LinuxGuy2009> !DVD
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> arcade, if you find an answer feel free to share it with me :)  Good luck man.
[22:32] <sebsebseb> melvster: personally I would remove most stuff on the top right,  well for my useage, my littel brother to young for Facebook,  but  I am going to let my older brother have the features, since he uses Facebook a lot anyway.   You should be able to log out and shut down from the system menu, by the sounds of it.
[22:33] <datacrusher> barbarella, can i do a /var/log clenup?
[22:33] <datacrusher> wont mess arround?
[22:33] <zui> Hello. I started up Microsoft Word 2007 in wine today and it logged me out. Latest wine (from wine repo) and Ubuntu 9.10. I had been using Word 2007 perfectly since the past 6 months. A google search didn't return any solutions except people complaining that it has been happening to them recently as well.
[22:33] <coachj> are we now discussing 10.4 here?
[22:33] <bbordwell_> melvster, try adding the power off button to the panel, that is how i have mine setup
[22:33] <Cinnabelle> I'm crossing my fingers that turning off display effects will solve my freezing problem D:
[22:33] <sebsebseb> melvster: there's a command that will reset the panels  to defaults, or should do anyway
[22:33] <litropy> acicula, my friend's OS hangs with a blinking line upon bootup after fresh install
[22:33] <Twiple> Jordan_U: if that fails, is there any way for me to get windows back?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> !panels | melvster
[22:33] <Jordan_U> !panelreset | melvster
[22:33] <RedNifre> I found a lot of spelling errors in the german translation of the installer. Where to report them?
[22:33] <barbarella> datacrusher: yes you can
[22:33] <LinuxGuy2009> !openoffice | zui
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Yes, I doubt that it will fail though.
[22:34] <litropy> acicula, yet VESA works.
[22:34] <acicula> litropy, 10.04 ?
[22:34] <Travis-42> if Ubuntu is installed on a new computer onto an SSD, will ubuntu align the new partitions it creates to maximize ssd performance?
[22:34] <zui> !sucks | LinuxGuy2009
[22:34] <litropy> 9.10, acicula. NBR
[22:34] <sebsebseb> melvster: if that doesn't work, well may be some other way to fix it,  or you can just shut down and restart,  like upstream Gnome and other distros.
[22:34] <acicula> litropy, how does vesa work but you get a blinking line on boot?
[22:34] <Twiple> Jordan_U: ok, I tried clonezilla, and I know this probably makes me sound retarded, but I'm lost and terrified
[22:34] <LinuxGuy2009> Folks if you dont like the help that you recieve, please by all means, dont take it. Simple as that.
[22:35] <LinuxGuy2009> !volunteers
[22:35] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: agreed
[22:35] <datacrusher> still 2.4gb
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Twiple: What did you do with clonezilla exactly?
[22:35] <melvster> woo hoo
[22:35] <datacrusher> holy crap
[22:35] <AskNick> Anybody have 10.4 running on a Tablet PC? Having trouble with cursor in tablet mode.
[22:35] <melvster> worked, thanks guys you're the best!
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> RedNifre, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs looks like you should use "ubuntu-bug ubuntu-translations"
[22:35] <melvster> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[22:35] <melvster> worked
[22:35] <datacrusher> now that iv runned the atualization proccess once, i cant more open synaptic or terminal on the gnome screen
[22:35] <littlegirl> What's the name of 10.4?
[22:35] <Twiple> Jordan_U: nothing yet, I just don't know how to clone a partition
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> littlegirl, Lucid
[22:35] <sebsebseb> melvster: ok :)  however what I put...  well I guess you'll understand when your more expereinced :D
[22:35] <mrfelton> hey - where is the full changelist for 10.04?
[22:36] <littlegirl> ZykoticK9: Thanks. (:
[22:36] <litropy> acicula: he uses GRUB to boot using VESA instead of the default graphics mode
[22:36] <acicula> ah
[22:36] <uLinux> lucid whats that
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !lucid
[22:36] <Travis-42> is there a more detailed release notes for ubuntu 10.04? the technical overview just says things like "includes the latest GNOME desktop environment with a number of great new features" Which new features?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !notes | mrfelton
[22:37] <syst3m> Im having lots of trouble with the 10.04 live cd. Can't install it right away and getting tons of errors when running straight from the live cd.
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: the above link I guess
[22:37] <Jordan_U> syst3m: What sort of errors?
[22:37] <bbordwell_> zui, revert to an older version of wine that it is known to work on
[22:37] <bbordwell_> zui, the wine packages in the wine repository are development versions prone to regressions
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | syst3m
[22:37] <mrfelton> sebsebseb, ubottu - thanks
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !thanks | mrfelton
[22:37] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: no, it doesn't provide any more detail about what's new :-/
[22:37] <votex> LinuxGuy2009 : sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[22:38] <acicula> litropy, the atom intel graphics are pretty poor afaik, but do have drivers. other then that i dont know, boot in vesa mode, grab the graphics card details and have a look on google for causes why it wont work?
[22:38] <mrfelton> how important would you say it is for me to do a 'clean upgrade'?
[22:38] <syst3m> my md match, and its applet errors or something
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: new kernel, new version of Gnome, two new themes,  later Firefox,  loads of packages updated in the repo, and that's it really
[22:38] <LinuxGuy2009> votex: pardon?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: KDE 4.4 for those doing Kubuntu
[22:38] <mrfelton> I have quite a lot of extra stuff installed, including php and mysql from dotdeb
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: there's also a  Ubuntu 10.04 manual, but that's not in the  ISO /  on CD
[22:38] <mrfelton> is that likely to screw up the upgrade process?
[22:39] <litropy> acicula: thank you
[22:39] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: sorry, not trying to be difficult, but I was trying to get more details. e.g. what's new about the new gnome compared to the gnome before?
[22:39] <uLinux> !flash
[22:39] <Twiple> Jordan_U: so how high a priority would you put partition cloning?
[22:39] <LinuxGuy2009> !manual
[22:39] <votex> LinuxGuy 2009 : Terminal window, enter: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: the Gnome site can explain that
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Twiple: What do you mean?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: however when it comes to specifailly Ubuntu
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: you know that stuff on the top right?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> sure you do
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> Travis-42, pressing F3 gives a split screen in nautilus - only new feature I personally know about
[22:39] <Twiple> Jordan_U: if I'm going to attempt a dual boot setup
[22:39] <uLinux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#installation
[22:40] <uLinux> is outdated
[22:40] <SeismicMike> Happy Download Day everyone!!!! :)
[22:40] <sebsebseb> Travis-42:  the sound menu, and me menu, and what not,  none of that is part of upstream Gnome, it's Ubuntu specific
[22:40] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: hmm, ok, yea I saw that that had changed.
[22:40] <LinuxGuy2009> votex: Maybe your confused, Im not in need of help myself, Im just a volunteer here to help others to get a good user experience.
[22:40] <SeismicMike> I have a quick question - using apt or aptitude is it possible to automatically uninstall all packages that were installed as dependencies but are no longer needed?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: they also remove a more well kind of technical feature as a result of those changes as well, well when they are disabled
[22:41] <Jordan_U> Twiple: I don't think it's needed, though if you have important data it should be backed up just as a general measure.
[22:41] <SeismicMike> I don't know of any specifically on my system, but I'd kinda like to make sure there aren't any before I do an upgrade
[22:41] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: alright, I guess I get the idea. thank you
[22:41] <votex> LinuxGuy 2009 : Nice work..keep it up..cool
[22:41] <Jordan_U> SeismicMike: apt-get autoremove
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> SeismicMike, "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[22:41] <SeismicMike> awesome
[22:41] <SeismicMike> thx
[22:41] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: That cleans out caches, it doesn't uninstall packages.
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: you know the automatic shut down Gnome feature?  well that's not there, when you got edited fast user account switcher applet, which is linked to the new me menu, enabled.   instead it will ask people if they really want to shut down ore re start, instead of automatically shutting down after a minute,  after they have done shut down
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> SeismicMike, sorry Jordan_U is correct!
[22:41] <VDZ> Um...I have a problem booting Ubuntu after updating it. It hangs at 'Checking battery state'
[22:41] <theJKH> How is everyone likeing 10.04?
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, that's twice you've gotten me today :)  Thanks man.
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: I guess newbie friendly features sometimes come at a price, for more expereinced users.
[22:42] <ddelony> I'm still installing it.
[22:42] <CaptainTrek> havent upgraded yet xD
[22:42] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: You're welcome :)
[22:42] <syst3m> trying to install...
[22:42] <SeismicMike> theJKH: hitting apt-get dist-upgrade riiiiiight now.....
[22:42] <ddelony> C'mon, how long does it take to install packages? :-p
[22:42] <theJKH> Cool!
[22:42] <ivo_> is it possible to use the "ubuntu music store" on other distros?
[22:42] <datacrusher> barbarella, still no go. ill remove some packages
[22:42] <theJKH> I'm excited to install it ronight in a VM.
[22:42] <theJKH> tonight*
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: ah yes I fogot, but there's also the Ubuntu Music Store
[22:43] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Am back.
[22:43] <mewt> download up upgrade finished! /me prays that update goes well
[22:43] <bastid_raZor> SeismicMike: that will not upgrade you from 9.10 to 10.04
[22:43] <kensanata> Does anybody know what this means? "Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/lucid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[22:43] <LinuxGuy2009> theJKH: Lucid is nice, I recomend you try it if you are interested. ;)
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> ivo_, doubt it - it's only in Lucid, not even older Ubuntu's yet
[22:43] <reportingsjr> andy112233: ok, did it work?
[22:43] <aquachica> Ubuntu Music Store?
[22:43] <SeismicMike> bastid_raZor? No?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> ascarter: yes
[22:43] <barbarella> datacrusher:try some graphics
[22:43] <ukixx> hallo world :)
[22:43] <sebsebseb> uh aquachica yes
 this kind of is not GPL
[22:43] <VDZ> So, um, does anybody know how to solve my issue? (hanging at Checking battery state)
[22:43] <bencc> can I move ssh keys from one machine to another?
[22:43] <jcbv> anyone got a geforce 2 working with compiz
[22:43] <sebsebseb> aquachica: you can buy music in Ubuntu 10.04 using Rythombox
[22:43] <aquachica> sebsebseb: I will have to check that out.
[22:43] <bastid_raZor> SeismicMike: nope, sudo do-release-upgrade   will
[22:43] <ukixx> do any one how to fix the pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated bug ?
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> ivo_, not sure about the source - but it makes money for Canonical when you purchase songs
[22:43] <reportingsjr> bencc: I believe you can.  You just have to copy them out of a certain floder
[22:43] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Nope. What does work is logging out and then back in. Thenn all devices are automounted. Here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9182423 the same problem is described. :-(
[22:43] <ukixx> now""
[22:43] <SeismicMike> aaaaaah
[22:44] <datacrusher> barbarella, need 389mb to go
[22:44] <barbarella> datacrusher:and clear the apt cache
[22:44] <datacrusher> any package suggestions?
[22:44] <datacrusher> already did apt-get clean
[22:44] <jcbv> geforce 2 gts compiz yes or no
[22:44] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated? help to fixit
[22:44] <datacrusher> and computer-janitor cleanup
[22:44] <uLinux> "Couldn't find package flashplugin64-installer"
[22:44] <theJKH> Yeah I'm really interested. I will enjoy installing it tonight!
[22:44] <ivo_> I want to purchase songs on other linux
[22:44] <SeismicMike> I did a sed -i s/karmic/lucid/ /etc/apt/sources.list - would that matter?
[22:44] <LinuxGuy2009> !slow
[22:44] <ivo_> distro
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !music
[22:44] <bencc> reportingsjr: thanks. trying
[22:44] <reportingsjr> andy112233: interesting.  Everyone that did the workaround you tried had it work.
[22:44] <bastid_raZor> SeismicMike: dist-upgrade just gets your current version fully up to date
[22:44] <SeismicMike> oh.... :)
[22:44] <Sleepmodehelp> I need a professinal ubuntu programmer or something, please.
[22:44] <Sleepmodehelp> I need a professinal ubuntu programmer or something, please.
[22:44] <reportingsjr> bencc: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1526/transfer-ssh-public-key-to-another-machine-in-one-step
[22:44] <acicula> Sleepmodehelp, just ask
[22:44] <teage> Is my IP Adress the same as my Ethernet Address? Im looking at it from the connection information properties.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Sleepmodehelp: Just ask your question, if anyone can help they will.
[22:44] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, if you want the 64bit flash you need to manually install from Adobe site
[22:44] <SeismicMike> well.... oops
[22:44] <SeismicMike> :)
[22:45] <bencc> reportingsjr: thanks
[22:45] <VDZ> Then that means nobody can help me? :(
[22:45] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 i just want "normal" flash for lucid
[22:45] <penthief> Anyone else find fusion-icon doesn't open the settings manager in 10.04?
[22:45] <MikeChelen> !repeat | VDZ
[22:45] <SeismicMike> 'sok... I've downloaded an ISO too, and I'm going to do a full reconfigure over the weekend... this is just temporary
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, easiest thing to do is "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:45] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Could I have done anything wrong?
[22:45] <ConcreteRose> Jo
 what is normal flash
[22:45] <ConcreteRose> Who the hell is this
[22:45] <ivo_> just download the plugin from adobe's site
[22:45] <LinuxGuy2009> VDZ: Will it boot with battery removed and on AC power?
[22:46] <ivo_> and copy it in your ffox plugin dir
[22:46] <reportingsjr> andy112233: you have a removable floppy drive?  I did see the I/O errors on fd0
[22:46] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated
[22:46] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Should I pastebin the ls of that directory with those rules?
[22:46] <VDZ> LinuxGuy2009: It's a desktop PC, there's no battery
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> Yes, really?
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> You need not a desktop server
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> You need a jail sentence
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> Conclusive, to your brain.
[22:46] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated??
[22:46] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 restricted extras?
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> TDP/Electrocution.
[22:46] <LinuxGuy2009> VDZ: Ah yeah that is an issue. Not sure what package to report that on.
[22:46] <Sleepmodehelp> All the versions of ubuntu i've downloaded automaticly go into sleep mode, I am running it dual boot. I'm currently on windows 7 though. The current version is ubuntu 10.4 LTS. It will stay on for a little bit than automaticly go into sleep mode and not come out of sleep mode. It dosen't do it if I'm doing nothing, it will automaticly do it whenever it wants, it has a mind of it's own, i've asked forums everywhere, they have no c
[22:46] <andy112233> reportingsjr:  What's a removable floppy drive? You mean an old 3,5'' or 5,25''. Nope. I have no floppy drive whatsoever.
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> Conclusive to your people-networks.
[22:46] <joaopinto> !language | ConcreteRose
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, it will install flash and codecs for you
[22:46] <Ken8521> !restricted | uLinux
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !troll | ConcreteRose
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> Please watch your mouth.
[22:47] <theGman> Ok all, I just installed the 9.10 server "spin" and it installed grub2 to my mbr, though it reported that it couldn't. Now, when I select my fedora install it's telling me I have to install/run the kernel first. What can I do to fix thie?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> Your kicking yourself very soon
[22:47] <sebsebseb> !ops | ConcreteRose
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> kick
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> kick
[22:47] <joaopinto> !ops | ConcreteRose trolling
[22:47] <barbarella> andy112233:still got problems to boot your external fat drive?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> your emergency?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> your father?
[22:47] <Sleepmodehelp> All the versions of ubuntu i've downloaded automaticly go into sleep mode, I am running it dual boot. I'm currently on windows 7 though. The current version is ubuntu 10.4 LTS. It will stay on for a little bit than automaticly go into sleep mode and not come out of sleep mode. It dosen't do it if I'm doing nothing, it will automaticly do it whenever it wants, it has a mind of it's own, i've asked forums everywhere, they have no c
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> what are you talking about
[22:47] <theGman> Fedora IS my MAIN os, I also have win7 but I'll worry about that in a bit.
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> you need to go back to your house
[22:47] <Sleepmodehelp> Anybody know?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> and than get arrested
[22:47] <reportingsjr> andy112233: then I don't know what device fd0 is. I think that the kernel hides SATA as floppy type drives or something.  Maybe a kernel bug? Not sure.
[22:48] <joaopinto> Sleepmodehelp, it goes into sleep mode because that's the power saving settings
[22:48] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 155mb
[22:48] <outoftime> anyone know off hand where /usr/share/gnome/default.session went in 9.10 ?
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> !manners | ConcreteRose
[22:48] <uLinux> for codecs and flash lol..
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> No, both of them are set to off, Joaopinto
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> Not off, Never* sorry.
[22:48] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: to late already kicked
[22:48] <joaopinto> Sleepmodehelp, if it doesn't restore from it you should file a bug report, but you should be able to disable the automatica sleep
[22:48] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Think I have a SATA-as-IDE option activated in my bios.
[22:48] <joaopinto> Sleepmodehelp, so, maybe you are experiencing a crash instead ?
[22:48] <VDZ> I was considering giving Ubuntu another chance as Windows performance decreases like mad as you leave it on for a couple of days...but if it doesn't even boot after an update, maybe I should just return to WinXP :|
[22:48] <theGman> Sleepmodehelp: You have to change both your powermanagement settings AND your screensaver settings.
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, if you only want flash just install "flashplugin-installer"
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> sebsebseb: good deal
[22:48] <reportingsjr> andy112233: ah, ok.  I'm sorry, but I think I'm at my limit for helping you. :(
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> It dosen't really crash, it just goes into sleep mode.
[22:48] <barbarella> andy112233:still got problems to boot your external fat drive?
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> How do I change my screensaver settings.
[22:48] <votex> VDZ : Ubuntu 9.10 or ...
[22:49] <merlin2049er> hey
[22:49] <andy112233> barbarella: Don't want to boot from my external drive. Just want it to be recognized.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: good deal?
[22:49] <merlin2049er> should i update before i upgrade?
[22:49] <joaopinto> VDZ, how does it fail to boot?
[22:49] <barbarella> andy112233:ok
[22:49] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Okay.
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Sleepmodehelp: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[22:49] <Sleepmodehelp> How do I change my screensaver settings.
[22:49] <andy112233> reportingsjr: :-(
[22:49] <barbarella> andy112233:still read only
[22:49] <theGman> Ok all, I just installed the 9.10 server "spin" and it installed grub2 to my mbr, though it reported that it couldn't. Now, when I select my fedora install it's telling me I have to install/run the kernel first. What can I do to fix thie?
[22:49] <LinuxGuy2009> !windows | VDZ
[22:49] <owen1_> is there a lightweight gmail client?
[22:49] <VDZ> I just updated to the new Ubuntu, and now at booting it hangs at 'Checking battery state'
[22:49] <uLinux> ZykoticK9  flash plugin installer is on the system
[22:49] <jcbv> no good games work in ubutnu
[22:49] <Sleepmodehelp> Alright, i'll go try that, thanks for the help. I'll probably be back.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> !games | jcbv
[22:49] <sebsebseb> jcbv: by the way next week as part of Ubuntu Open Week there will be a games session
[22:49] <sebsebseb> !openweek | jcbv
[22:50] <uLinux> ZykoticK9  flash plugin installer is in the system already
[22:50] <andy112233> barbarella: I think I've broken my drive. Just realized that I had the USB-wire connected upside-down. When reconnecting it properly, the drive still isn't recognized, neither in ubuntu nor in XP.
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, so restart Firefox and try about:plugins - is flash listed?
[22:50] <Jordan_U> theGman: Have you tried running "sudo update-grub"?
[22:50] <respire> OK how can I make firefox start on workspace 2? The window placement plugin didn't do it, devilspie says the space doesn't exist
[22:50] <jcbv> well i cant play company of heros or day of defeat
[22:50] <sebsebseb> jcbv: you may be able to in Wine
[22:50] <merlin2049er> anyone using ddclient
[22:50] <joaopinto> VDZ, do you have an ATI graphics card ?
[22:50] <too5hort> hey, the linux installer cant fint my hdd, but the linux itself can find it as mounted,any help please
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !wine | jcbv
[22:50] <VDZ> joaopinto: NVIDIA
[22:50] <theGman> Jordan_U: Not once it installed, but the thing is I don't think the mapping is correct.
[22:50] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 zero plugins
[22:50] <VDZ> GeForce 7600 GT, 512 MB
[22:50] <owen1_> is there a lightweight gmail client for linux?
[22:50] <votex> VDZ : Ubuntu 9.10  (updating)... OR
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, don't know then.  Good luck man.
[22:51] <theGman> Jordan_U: But I can try it now and see what errors I get.
[22:51] <barbarella> andy112233:then take it out and put it in your computer
[22:51] <Twiple> Jordan_U: so am I worrying too much?
[22:51] <respire> owen1_, why not thunderbird
[22:51] <running_rabbit07> owen1_, thunderbird
[22:51] <uLinux> lol nice ubuntu..
[22:51] <bastid_raZor> merlin2049er: dyndns.com has instructions on how to set it up
[22:51] <jcbv> ubuntu is hacked to pieces anyway i see all types of viruses from vista showing up in ubuntu
[22:51] <owen1_> respire: ok, i'll try it
[22:51] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Is there anything I can do? Post the problem at a forum? Anything else? Relogging in/out each time doesn't seem the perfect solution.
[22:51] <owen1_> running_rabbit07: thanks
[22:51] <VDZ> votex; updated from Ubuntu 9.10 (I think) to the newest version
[22:51] <LinuxGuy2009> !thunderbird | owen1_
[22:51] <sebsebseb> jcbv: Windows viruses won't run on Ubuntu
[22:51] <respire> jcbv, examples?
[22:51] <jcbv> fu pay me for the answer its a good one too
[22:51] <Jordan_U> theGman: If you are referring to /boot/grub/device.map, it's not used anymore (everything is UUID based now, and grub-install takes standard /dev/foo device names for arguments)
[22:51] <uLinux> i could try to reinstall firefox
[22:51] <respire> i cant afford it :)
[22:52] <reportingsjr> andy112233: you can try posting at the forum.  Mention that thread you posted.  Also search in the bug list, and if there isn't a bug like yours then create one.
[22:52] <User2> hey guys, is someone responsible by shipit here?
[22:52] <respire> so you have a 0day eh
[22:52] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I have retried running a dvd with all of my media players, confirmed that ubuntu restricted extras is installed and it still does not work. I think it has something to do with Ubuntu seeing my dvd drive as /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/sd*.
[22:52] <andy112233> barbarella: Bought it in one piece. Might be worth trying.
[22:52] <theGman> Jordan_U: No, I meant in /boot/grub/grub.cfg or whatever drives the grub menu at boot.
[22:52] <iwo> can anyone tell me of a 'known issues' type list for 10.4? has such a list been started? (or should I just query launchpad?)
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !notes | iwo
[22:52] <barbarella> andy112233:what does fdisk -l say?
[22:52] <acicula> jmknsd, playing a dvd film?
[22:52] <votex> VDZ : Did you check the HCL list before installing....
[22:52] <andy112233> reportingsjr:  Thanks a lot, reportingsjr! :-) Already midnight here. Getting some sleep now. :-)
[22:52] <LinuxGuy2009> jmknsd: sr0 is completely normal. libdvdcss2 installed?
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> jmknsd, dvd support isn't in restricted extras - see one of the 2 options at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/enable-dvd-video-playback
[22:53] <chicken> Hey all, my laptop seems to run a lot hotter under Ubuntu than Windows. Is there a way of checking the fan speed? Both cores of my processor are set to 'Ondemand' on the CPU frequency monitor.
[22:53] <acicula> LinuxGuy2009, jmknsd you may have to set the region code
[22:53] <LinuxGuy2009> !medibuntu | jmknsd
[22:53] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 i just reinstalled flashplugin :)
[22:53] <iwo> sebsebseb: cheers
[22:53] <uLinux> and now it's workig
[22:53] <reportingsjr> andy112233: good night! :)  sorry about not being able to help.
[22:53] <andy112233> barbarella: The drive isn't even listed in lsusb.
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, nice!
[22:53] <VDZ> votex; I didn't check anything. I hadn't run Ubuntu in a while, so I just decided to update everything and now this happened
[22:53] <acicula> LinuxGuy2009, jmknsd if this is an encrypted dvd that is not playing
[22:53] <sebsebseb> iwo: np
[22:53] <User2> where can i find someone responsible for shipit?
[22:53] <uLinux> ZykoticK9  tks 4 the help
[22:53] <andy112233> barbarella: I think I've ruined the plug
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !shipit | uLinux
[22:53] <sebsebseb> whoops  not uLinux  ,but  User2
[22:53] <too5hort> anyone?
[22:54] <uLinux> i didnt know that anyway nice..
[22:54] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Needn't be. I find it incredible what ubuntu has to offer, including support, all for free! Thank you!
[22:54] <sebsebseb> User2: I guess the above factoid is useless, but was worth a try
[22:54] <jozsibacsi> hey guys, what can  i do if i had blackout during the updateing from karmic to 10.04, and it broke at the sage of 'downloading packages', ive restarted it , and now it stucks at the 2nd phase of the 6
[22:54] <jozsibacsi> can anyone help me regarding it?
[22:54] <ubuntusmash> My laptop seems to run a lot hotter under Ubuntu than Windows. Is there a way of checking the fan speed? Both cores of my processor are set to 'Ondemand' on the CPU frequency monitor.
[22:54] <votex> VDZ : Laptop model ? if you please...
[22:54] <User2> !shipit
[22:54] <barbarella> andy112233:external cases are not so expensive anymore
[22:54] <IdleOne> jcbv: please watch your language and attitude
[22:54] <VDZ> votex; it's not a laptop
[22:54] <alket> can anyone find me ubuntu 10.04 x64 hash ?
[22:55] <VDZ> It checks for a battery that isn't there
[22:55] <alket> md5sum
[22:55] <kbar> Has anyone had a problem where if going into suspend you
[22:55] <kbar> cant come back
[22:55] <reportingsjr> jozsibacsi: it should resume downloading, but considering the state of the servers it sounds like you have the same issue as me, haha.  Wait until tomorrow to resume upgrading.
[22:55] <jcbv> ooooooooooooooooooooo tay capum
[22:55] <frankie_> why is it so dificult to remove ubuntu one? such a massive hassle, why can't it just be one easy uninstall click? it reminds me of trying to uninstall windows programes like IE, msn, etc.. is this really the future of ubuntu?
[22:55] <iceroot> !md5 | alket
[22:55] <jozsibacsi> hehe :)
[22:55] <IdleOne> alket: releases.ubuntu/com/10.04
[22:55] <reportingsjr> jozsibacsi: the servers can't handle this many requests.  It may even be two days, who knows.
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> VDZ: Have you already searched launchpad for a bug? Created a new one?
[22:55] <Enissay> where am i supposed to apply to get a free lisence to use vmware workstation please?
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> alket, 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448 *ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:55] <sebsebseb> frankie_: oh it's quite easy to remove it
[22:55] <merlin2049er> hows the upgrade?
[22:55] <andy112233> barbarella: Can devices sold-in-one-piece (TREKSTOR) also be separated from their hull?
[22:55] <alket> ZykoticK9 thanks :D
[22:55] <VDZ> LinuxGuy2009: I haven't
[22:55] <jozsibacsi> hm, and how do i stop the update now?
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> !vbox | Enissay
[22:55] <IdleOne> jcbv: your attempt at masking your racist remark is not appreciated either.
[22:55] <sebsebseb> frankie_: I also don't want to use Ubuntu One, how come you don't by the way,  Anyway open up Synaptic,  search for Ubuntu One, and remove, and done.
[22:55] <barbarella> andy112233:yes any
[22:56] <votex> VDZ : PC ?
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009>  VDZ: Great place to start with something that odd.
[22:56] <User2> Please, if someone here is a responsible by shipit, or know who is, please tell me. Thanks
[22:56] <jcbv> ok cd just finised burning
[22:56] <Enissay> thnks LinuxGuy2009 :)
[22:56] <Jordan_U> User2: Why do you ask?
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009> !shipit
[22:56] <reportingsjr> jozsibacsi: there should be a cancel button?
[22:56] <Diazz> Hi, is it possile to make an exisiting user root?
[22:56] <jozsibacsi> nop, theres not
[22:56] <iceroot> Diazz: with sudo
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009> Enissay: welcome
[22:56] <IdleOne> !root | Diazz
[22:57] <VDZ> votex; I don't know the exact PC model and stuff. All I know is that it's a single-core P4 3.0 ghz, 1 GB RAM
[22:57] <jozsibacsi> it finished the 1st phase, now it stucked at 2nd phase
[22:57] <bastid_raZor> Diazz: add them to the admin group and they will be able to use sudo
[22:57] <mustnggt> anyone free to help with wifi in ubuntu 10.04? works but kinda doesn't work. More info if someone is available to help.
[22:57] <Jordan_U> Diazz: No, and that is almost certainly the wrong solution to whatever problem you are facing
[22:57] <Traveler3> hi
[22:57] <Traveler3> is b
[22:57] <Traveler3> What type of distro is ubuntu?
[22:57] <Traveler3> Bleeding edge?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> !ask | mustnggt
[22:57] <barbarella> hmm, sudo passwd root
[22:57] <iceroot> Traveler3: debian sid
[22:57] <federico> hi, i'm using uburntu RC how do i actulize to the final release?
[22:57] <Ashley__> Hey guys my work machine has ubuntu on it. It's totally messed up i need to get it sorted by 9am tomorrow... I just done a system update and it upgraded the kernel.. i rebooted and it's totally messed up. It's sitting at grub shell. When i type "linux /boot/<kernel img>" i just get a kernel panic error. Can someone help me out please really need your help guys.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> !wireless might be useful | mustnggt
[22:57] <Traveler3> what does that mean?
[22:57] <tyoc> Hi there, I have a new M11x with windows 7, can I install with the normal CD?
[22:57] <User2> Jordan_U, i have just requested two cds of Ubuntu (one from Jaunty and the other from karmic) and now i can't request anymore.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> mustnggt: might be useful
[22:57] <sebsebseb> !wireless | mustnggt
[22:58] <jozsibacsi> and i cant even kill the update, cool
[22:58] <UseTheForce> jeez... i installed 10.04 on a usb stick... and i accidently overwritten grub on my main hd... so now my puter wont boot unless the usb stick is in the port... is there any way to put grub back the way it was
[22:58] <h00k> Traveler3: it is based off Debian and is released in 6 month increments
[22:58] <xandy> hi all
[22:58] <h00k> ubottu: schedule | Traveler3
[22:58] <mustnggt> sorry, forgot, been a while since i've been on irc. Ok, so, Dell laptop, working wifi at home no problem running ubuntu 10.04 but...
[22:58] <theJKH> Ashley__ That really sucks! I feel bad.
[22:58] <Jordan_U> User2: That is normal, you have to make speciall requests and have them approved to get more (for instance if they are for a school)
[22:58] <LinuxGuy2009> !grub
[22:58] <too5hort> trallala
[22:59] <acicula> tyoc, yeah the standard cd/dvd should work
[22:59] <mustnggt> at Univeristy, WPA Enterprise, it connects no problem and works, but as soon as the laptop hybernates, will not autoreconnect. even forcing reconnect does not work.
[22:59] <xandy> is the netbook remix already ubuntu 10 ?
[22:59] <theGman> Jordan_U: I just ran update-grub and got :Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda1. Check your device.map" and it does it for all three /dev/sda's
[22:59] <mustnggt> i have to delete the wifi setting and recreate.
[22:59] <UseTheForce> !grub2
[22:59] <User2> Jordan_U, i can't request either a special request
[22:59] <h00k> xandy: Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 is released, yes
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> xand, UNE Edition - is the 10.04 version
[22:59] <andy112233> barbarella: thanks
[22:59] <xand> o.o
[22:59] <Jordan_U> theGman: You can ignore that error, or get rid of it with "sudo rm /boot/grub/device.map"
[22:59] <xandy> thanks h00k didn't find that info on the website
[22:59] <jcbv> wont boot from cd damn
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> xand, sorry
[22:59] <mustnggt> If deleted and then try over, it works without problem until the next time it goes to sleep
[23:00] <LinuxGuy2009> Just FYI netbook edition isnt an LTS
[23:00] <tyoc> acicula: so resizing of the widnwos filesystem is OK?
[23:00] <enan> i think grub2 is too complex
[23:00] <luis_lopez> .
[23:00] <alket> Its strange how Ubuntus default usb-creator-gtk doesn't work after trying to install ISO but Unetbootin works
[23:00] <Ashley__> I have grub. This was installed from Wubi. When i type 'boot' after loading the kernel, it says "No filesystem could mount root. tried ext4, ext2, ext4, fusebkl.. Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs unknown-block(8,1)
[23:00] <acicula> tyoc, it should be, make backups just in case though
[23:00] <h00k> xandy: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
[23:00] <Ashley__> And then it hits kernel panic.
[23:00] <andy112233> reportingsjr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/546992 let's me assume it has to do with those fd0-errors. Where did you see them? Can't I just disable this device?
[23:00] <LinuxGuy2009> !language | jcbv
[23:00] <tyoc> acicula: OK
[23:00] <theGman> Jordan_U: Do I try it again then?
[23:00] <tyoc> thx people
[23:00] <IanBaliadJr> can anyone recommend me a good filemanager for openbox?
[23:00] <User2> Jordan_U, if i click: request a CD of Ubuntu Desktop Version it tells me that i can't request anymore. All i can request is server editions
[23:00] <votex> VDZ : Could you tell us something about the motherboard also..!
[23:00] <ubuntusmash> My laptop seems to run a lot hotter under Ubuntu than Windows. Is there a way of increasing the fan speed? Both cores of my processor are set to 'Ondemand' on the CPU frequency monitor.
[23:00] <theGman> Jordan_U: And does it matter if it's grub or grub2
[23:00] <vbundi> can anyone recommend a desktop PCI wireless-g card with native linux support? (not ndiswrapper)
[23:00] <mupaon> Hi ! My system monitor and conky shows that there is a 1 gb free space to use for "swap". But this is not possible because i did not set any swap space on Ubuntu installation (i am sure). Can you please help me to solve the problem.
[23:01] <VDZ> votex; unfortunately, I have no idea
[23:01] <LinuxGuy2009> IanBaliadJr: Perhaps take a look at what XFCE or LXDE use out of the box for starters?
[23:01] <Slart> mupaon: it might be a swap file.. linux can use either a partition or a file
[23:01] <Jordan_U> Ashley__: You need to provide a proper root= kernel parameter, but why are you needing to boot from the grub shell? Do you not see a menu at boot?
[23:01] <reportingsjr> andy112233: those errors were listed in dmesg, which is partly why the dmesg was so long.
[23:01] <votex> VDZ : You could get that information during the POST.
[23:01] <alket> After formating USB always there opens TWO windows with USB Folder, how to fix it ? This problem was at karmic koala too, i tried with diffrent USBs
[23:02] <Jordan_U> theGman: Yes, and yes (I believe grub legacy still uses device.map for some things)
[23:02] <VDZ> Well, whatever. I give up. Back to WinXP for me. Thanks for the help anyways
[23:02]  * ewp is away: /me has gone away.
[23:02] <IanBaliadJr> LinuxGuy2009: -_- thx
[23:02] <mupaon> Slart:  I dont want to use it. How can i delete that ? and how i have setup it ? :)
[23:02] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated
[23:02] <extor> What's the best linux util to undelete files from an ext3 partition that you accidently formatted?
[23:02] <ukixx> help
[23:02] <Ashley__> Jordan_U, i get my "Choose windows XP or ubuntu" menu.. then i choose Ubuntu and i quickly see loads of crap errors then it boots me into a grub shell. FYI i done a kernel upgrade today via ubuntu system upgrade and upon reboot this is where i'm at.
[23:02] <sebsebseb> !testdisk | extor
[23:02] <reportingsjr> andy112233: I don't even know if the fd0 device exists.  That's part of the problem.  Check if /dev/fd0 exists.
[23:02] <Slart> mupaon: I don't know if it creates a swap file by default or if it's something new in lucid..
[23:02] <sebsebseb> !info testdisk
[23:02] <LinuxGuy2009> VDZ : Are you sure that its not just reporting that the BIOS battery is bad? Does the clock and settings keep time and stuff on power down?
[23:02] <Slart> !swap | mupaon, might be some info here
[23:02] <Jordan_U> extor: photorec (which is packaged with testdisk)
[23:02] <LinuxGuy2009> !best | extor
[23:03] <votex> VDZ : Restart your PC. and write down the information about the hardware.!
[23:03] <froggyman> is there a social channel for ubuntu?
[23:03] <ukixx> swap:)
[23:03] <Diazz> Jordan_U if it says that Nvidia driver should be run as root?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> extor: try testdisk
[23:03] <tiina> have problem with firefox still???
[23:03] <extor> testdisk failed
[23:03] <Slart> froggyman: there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:03] <User2> Jordan_U, if is there a way to do special requests please tell me
[23:03] <froggyman> Slart: thanks
[23:03] <dxtr> By the way, I'm really hoping it's updating my Xubuntu 9.10 to Xubuntu 10.04 (And not Ubuntu 10.04 :P)
[23:03] <Jordan_U> Diazz: You are installing the nvidea driver the wrong way, use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[23:03] <ukixx> swap infoo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:03] <LinuxGuy2009> User2: Special requests for what?
[23:04] <tiina> anyone ???? I have problem with my firefox
[23:04] <User2> LinuxGuy2009, Shipit
[23:04] <andy112233> reportingsjr: the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/546992 gave me a workaround: "killall nautilus" solves the problem. Could I just add this command to my startup-programs?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> User2: What do you need them for? I'm not affiliated with shipit in any way but I might be able to tell you if it's likely to be accepted.
[23:04] <dupondje> dxtr: it just upgrades all installed packages :)
[23:04] <ukixx> i have problem  whit movie player tomp eller whaaaever
[23:04] <ukixx> the is
[23:04] <dupondje> tiina: problem? what problem ?
[23:04] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | tiina
[23:04] <mupaon> Slart: thank you for link but i had read that. this problem is not about lucid. because this problem also was on 9.1 and 9.04 on my computer :(
[23:04] <warrior_> hello wolr
[23:04] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated
[23:04] <LinuxGuy2009> User2: Whats your exact question? Are you having trouble ordering or what?
[23:05] <tiina> my firefox is open and closing at the same time
[23:05] <ukixx> ""pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated"" helpppppppp
[23:05] <theGman> Jordan_U: Do I run update-grubt again then? And does it matter if it's grub or grub2?
[23:05] <Diazz> Jordan_U thx
[23:05] <Jordan_U> User2: Also note that you can purchase disks from http://shop.canonical.com/
[23:05] <dupondje> tiina: try running 'firefox' from console, what output do you get ?
[23:05] <daftykins> hi all, i've just been installing Lucid on my ancient PIII 800 with 384MB RAM, ubiquity is stuck at 83% "configuring target system" and not progressing. via 'top' i can see it's generating a consistent 5% load
[23:05] <LinuxGuy2009>  tiina: open a terminal and start firefox there. See if you get any errors.
[23:05] <EdgEy> Does anyone have an md5sum for ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[23:05] <daftykins> any ideas how i can nudge it along?
[23:05] <tiina> Firefox is already running,close....
[23:05] <Jordan_U> theGman: No need to run it again, just try rebooting.
[23:05] <dxtr> dupondje: Right :)
[23:05] <Jordan_U> Diazz: You're welcome.
[23:05] <LinuxGuy2009> !md5sum
[23:05] <User2> LinuxGuy, Jordan_U, i requested just 2 cds (one from karmic and another from jaunty) and now i can't request anymore. is there a way to request new cds from Shipit?
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> EdgEy, 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448 *ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:06] <theGman> Jordan_U: OK, be back in a bit then...if it doesn't work that is :P
[23:06] <barbarella> extor:the best undelete is your Recycle bin, as most people do :-)
[23:06] <thomasfuston> Aloha!, i got a short question, what could be the problem if i try to compile something, but i get an error like
[23:06] <dupondje> tiina: do 'ps aux', and kill the running firefox :)
[23:06] <BRC> hey all
[23:06] <acicula> thomasfuston, pastebin
[23:06] <EdgEy> ZykoticK9, thanks, matches
[23:06] <EdgEy> :)
[23:06] <Slart> mupaon: isn't there a command to list which swap spaces you have defined?
[23:06] <rantic12> Hello ?
[23:06] <BRC> whats ubunutu 10.04 lts
[23:06] <mupaon> Slart i dont know ?! :(
[23:06] <BRC> what does lts stand for
[23:06] <tiina> Same message in the terminal....your firefox is already running.....
[23:06] <daftykins> !ask | rantic12
[23:06] <daftykins> !lts | BRC
[23:06] <acicula> long term support
[23:06] <LinuxGuy2009> !LTS
[23:06] <rantic12> lts: Long Term Support
[23:06] <misamanus> long time support
[23:07] <misamanus> and how long is the long time support
[23:07] <thomasfuston> Aloha!, i got a short question, what could be the problem if i try to compile something, but i get an error like "checking for kernel source/headers... not found"
[23:07] <digitaloktay> 3 years desktop
[23:07] <Diazz> Just a quick question. If i updgrade my ubuntu 9.10 to 10.4 will my harddrive be wiped?
[23:07] <barbarella> Slart: cat /etc/fstab
[23:07] <digitaloktay> 5 years server
[23:07] <BRC> yes saying Ubuntu release 10.04 LTS available
[23:07] <BRC> ahh ok
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Diazz: no your data will still be there
[23:07] <Jordan_U> !source | thomasfuston
[23:07] <rantic12> Both my laptop and desktop have 4gb of ram, I remember a few years back people advised against the x64 release of Ubuntu. Does that still apply or should I grab the x64 10.04 release?
[23:07] <LinuxGuy2009> misamanus: Did you read ubottu just said that
[23:07] <Diazz> sebsebseb thx
[23:07] <dupondje> Diazz: no, only installed packages will be upgrade to new versions from 10.04
[23:07] <Jordan_U> thomasfuston: Sorry, wrong factoid
[23:07] <votex> tiina : what was the real cause for it.
[23:07] <diabolical> What are the names of the Software Manager and Package managers in ubuntu I know synaptic but the other 2
[23:07] <BRC> am i goin to have problem installing this version
[23:08] <acicula> thomasfuston, install the kernel dev headers
[23:08] <Jordan_U> !compile | thomasfuston
[23:08] <blistov> So, how far away are we from u1 storing our desktop configuration?
[23:08] <User2> Jordan_U, if is there a way to make special request, even with the "No more CDs message", please tell me
[23:08] <joaopinto> diabolical, synaptic and ubuntu software center
[23:08] <tiina> Cannot just fix my firefox its already running and it is not!!
[23:08] <BRC> has anyone installed 10.04 yet?
[23:08] <diabolical> joaopinto: thank you
[23:08] <blistov> BRC Yup.
[23:08] <diabolical> Need them for Kubuntu yuck
[23:08] <LinuxGuy2009> blistov: You could maybe write a script for that? maybe
[23:08] <gnuvang> to get new release  Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx type in terminal    sudo update-manager -d
[23:08] <dupondje> BRC: yep, since alpha 1 :)
[23:08] <tiina> ps aux...what else shall I write on terminal window?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> User2: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/specialrequest
[23:08] <BRC> any know issues
[23:09] <Sleepmodehelp> Hello, I was just in ehre with a sleep mode problem, I was told to change the screensaver AND the powermanagment, I did, and it still randomly goes into sleep mode whenever it wants.
[23:09] <Sleepmodehelp> Any version of Ubuntu I download. Same story.
[23:09] <Sleepmodehelp> This current version is however Ubuntu 10.4 LTC.
[23:09] <dupondje> gnuvang: the -d is not needed :) as its final :P
[23:09] <blistov> LinuxGuy2009, Problem is that not all versions of applications can deal with configs from older versions.
[23:09] <User2> Jordan_U, i get: "Demand for Ubuntu CDs is very high, and we're trying to ensure that we have enough CDs for those who really need one. We've noticed that you've already "
[23:09] <daftykins> Sleepmodehelp: are you sure you click 'make default' and then enter your password when you do that?
[23:09] <Sleepmodehelp> LTS*
[23:09] <Slart> mupaon: try this "cat /proc/swaps" you can pastebin the result if you want
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Sleepmodehelp: Can you check your battery status? It may be read incorrectly making Ubuntu think it needs to suspend.
[23:09] <Slart> !pastebin | mupaon
[23:09] <thomasfuston> acicula is there a special package for those kernel dev headers ?
[23:09] <Damo2k> I have Windows 7, and im trying to dual boot with Ubuntu 10.04, im not seeing the "install side by side" option when trying to install, what may cause this ?
[23:09] <zilvinas> hello there
[23:10] <rantic12> Both my laptop and desktop have 4gb of ram, I remember a few years back people advised against the x64 release of Ubuntu. Does that still apply or should I grab the x64 10.04 release?
[23:10] <votex> tiina : Install a different browser Epiphany..
[23:10] <mickster04> User2: dont be greedy then
[23:10] <agliodbs> does anyone know where I can get lexmark printer drivers for ubuntu?
[23:10] <Sleepmodehelp> Is anybody there.?
[23:10] <acicula> thomasfuston, build-essential typically helps
[23:10] <mickster04> agliodbs: new to ubuntu?
[23:10] <BRC> any differences between ubuntu 9,04 karmic and this current version 10.04 lts
[23:10] <Slart> barbarella: yes, cat /etc/fstab works.. but cat /proc/swaps was what I was looking for. Thanks anyway
[23:10] <thomasfuston> acicula already installed, thats why i am asking ^
[23:10] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: old or new Lexmark printer?
[23:10] <dupondje> rantic12: go for the x64 for sure
[23:10] <zilvinas> hey
[23:10] <daftykins> BRC for common questions please read up on the website, it's ALL detailed there.
[23:10] <agliodbs> mickster04: not particularly.  I'm troubleshooting a cups issue
[23:10] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: older
[23:10] <acicula> thomasfuston, hmm you should have them already
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:10] <LinuxGuy2009> agliodbs: Checked Lexmark website already to see if they already provide one?
[23:10] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: optra m412
[23:10] <blistov> BRC, read the release notes.  Short answer, yes, there are tonnes of changes between 9.04 and 10.04
[23:10] <tiina> yeah but I like firefox...
[23:10] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: good and bad news, probably bad news for you though
[23:10] <joaopinto> BRC, yes, many, check the release notes
[23:11] <acicula> thomasfuston, you can check the configure script to see what it checks
[23:11] <theGman> Jordan_U: Nope, still getting "you need to install the kernel first" when I try to boot into my Fedora, what now?
[23:11] <BRC> so this is the latest release...
[23:11] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: daa da daaaaaa
[23:11] <daftykins> that echo problem is back in here.
[23:11] <agliodbs> LinuxGuy2009: yes, they provide a single universal deb which is too out of date to install
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: daaaaaaaaaaa
[23:11] <Damo2k> Ubuntu isn't giving me an option to resize my partition, so I can't dual boot
[23:11] <User2> mickster04, greedy? i just have requested two CDs, one from Jaunty and another form Karmic! Two... 2 is not several!
[23:11] <acicula> BRC, yeah
[23:11] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: bad news is that Lexmark are known for bad Linux support,  however more recently they do actsually support Linux properly, even have the Tux penguin on their boxes
[23:11] <RAGE8> Hello, I was just in here with a sleep mode problem, I was told to change power management and screen saver settings, I did both, and it still shuts down whenever it feeels like it. Out of the blue, can anybody please help?
[23:11] <Jordan_U> theGman: Can you pastebin your grub.cfg?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: what is the current OS?
[23:11] <BRC> ok cool i check it out..thx
[23:11] <votex> tiina : sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[23:11] <acicula> RAGE8, does it powerdown or just crash?
[23:11] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, Windows 7
[23:11] <rantic12> Ok thanks
[23:11] <RAGE8> It goes into sleep mode.
[23:12] <agliodbs> I've been using the postscript driver, but it crashes whenever I try to print a document more than 500K
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: win7 can resize its own partitions
[23:12] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: there may be a way to configure it and get it working,  but you probably won't get much luck
[23:12] <sebsebseb> !cups | agliodbs
[23:12] <RAGE8> And it will not come out of sleep mode, when  it goes into sleep mode.
[23:12] <mickster04> User2: but of course you cant download them? even the standard downloads should be ok? unless they aare on the same server?
[23:12] <nbktech> !upgrade
[23:12] <TMKCodes_> Hey, anyone know the gnome-panel applet menu where is just icons? something called kalika..
[23:12] <daftykins> RAGE8: are you sure you click 'make default' and then enter your password when you do that?
[23:12] <theGman> Jordan_U: Sure. Stand by
[23:12] <Sa[i]nT> Ubuntu blackberry?
[23:12] <Alienarch> someone have a walkthrough to setup VNC (or turn it on) on server 10.04?
[23:12] <LinuxGuy2009> agliodbs: If push comes to shove and you think of upgrading your printer to work with Linux, Brother makes drivers and PPD files for all of the printers they make.
[23:12] <agliodbs> I asked the guys on cups.org for help and they said that there were PPDs available from Lexmark, but I sure can't find any
[23:12] <blueoveralls> I wonder if anyone here can help me
[23:12] <RAGE8> Yes.
[23:12] <joaopinto> RAGE8, if it shuts down, it's crashing/hanging, not sleeping
[23:12] <diabolical> After I install the Synaptic and Ubuntu Software center on Kubuntu I need to get Kmenu and what else?
[23:12] <mickster04> Sa[i]nT: i wish
[23:12] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, I just finished a defrag, and I have 210GB free, I am better using Windows 7 to resize the partition ?
[23:12] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask
[23:12] <daftykins> Alienarch: system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[23:12] <tiina> when I logg in to about:config....what should I change there?
[23:12] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, and 30Gb is plenty for Ubuntu?
[23:12] <agliodbs> LinuxGuy2009: I'll change the OS of the print server first
[23:13] <candeller> I am having issues with screen brigthness after installing the ATI drivers. I have a samsung r522 laptop. In karmic the power managment slider for brightness was working ok, now it doesnt. Anyone has/had a similar problem?
[23:13] <RAGE8> How do I fix the crashes though?..My system is up to date and everything.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: yes as it will manage its own files etc
[23:13] <Alienarch> daftykins: it's server OS, no gui
[23:13] <RAGE8> I just updated my bios last night.
[23:13] <User2> mickster04, to download is out of my possibilities
[23:13] <CaneToad> if I'm running a 32-bit version of Ubuntu, can I upgrade to a 64 bit version?
[23:13] <joaopinto> CaneToad, no, you will need to reinstall to change
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: most netbooks get by with about 4Gb
[23:13] <daftykins> Alienarch: VNC is GUI only... you can't remote control a CLI install ;)
[23:13] <User2> mickster04, i don't have a CD burner
[23:13] <CaneToad> joaopinto: thanks
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad:  you will need to reinstall
[23:13] <Alienarch> oh, well crap ok lol
[23:13] <mickster04> User2: ok, but technically anything >1 is several
[23:13] <blueoveralls> I installed 10.04 as an update, I acidentally installed GRUB on both my main drive and my external HFS+ drive, and now the HFS+ drive doesn't mount, and Disk Utils shows it as empty an unpartitoned. It had my Time Machine backups and all my music on it, anything I can do?
[23:13] <Alienarch> thanks
[23:13] <nbktech> what is the command to see the cli upgrade directions?
[23:13] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, what is recommended swap partition size?
[23:13] <mickster04> User2: run them mounted?
[23:13] <daftykins> Alienarch: you'll want SSH to command line in remotely
[23:13] <zilvinas> does anyone knows why after installation of 10.04 system doesnt boot, shows only blinking typing cursor?
[23:13] <RAGE8> I just updated my bios last night.
[23:13] <LinuxGuy2009> CaneToad: Check to see if your CPU supports 64bit.
[23:14] <RAGE8> I still have these reoccuring problems
[23:14] <mickster04> User2: im impressed u dont have a burner...
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: 2xram for less than 2Gb. 1xram for 2gb or more
[23:14] <Jordan_U> zilvinas: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[23:14] <CaneToad> LinuxGuy2009: it does
[23:14] <RAGE8> With any of the ubuntu versions I download
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: if you have a stupendous amount of ram it may not even be needed
[23:14] <nbktech> !list
[23:14] <User2> mickster04, i will use them to install in my friend's computers...
[23:14] <joaopinto> zilvinas, does the cursor move when you hit enter ?
[23:14] <blueoveralls> Does anyone have any idea what I can do?
[23:14] <Perdita> Hey, I'm currently installing WinXP via QEMU and it has been saying 'restarting computer...' for quite a long time now ... do I have to do anything special, for example restart QEMU?
[23:14] <Damo2k> I have 4GB ram, its Dell XPS M1530
[23:14] <LinuxGuy2009> !patience | RAGE8
[23:14] <Jordan_U> User2: Why don't you just download the iso yourself, or buy official CDs?
[23:15] <mickster04> User2: makes no difference to me, you paying for them then?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: then 4gb swap wil be fine. it will enable hibernate etc
[23:15] <RAGE8> Sorry.
[23:15] <LinuxGuy2009> !qemu
[23:15] <Jordan_U> User2: Your shipit request will almost certainly be rejected.
[23:15] <theGman> Jordan_U: Here you go: http://fpaste.org/TsL2
[23:15] <RAGE8> Ah yes, that reminds me. I posted it on Ubuntu forums a few days ago, and nobody knows the issue.
[23:15] <LinuxGuy2009> !vbox | Perdita
[23:15] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, Damo2k it's always a good pratice to use swap, it frees RAM from inactive process which can be used for filesystem caching
[23:15] <bappy2> i'm on hardy LTS, but update manager doesn't show me the option to upgrade to Lucid. is that the intended behavior ?
[23:15] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, so I allocate 4GB swap on disk also ?
[23:15] <subone> I just shared files on my desktop using "Sharing Options", but i cant see them from another machine (findsmb), can anyone help me?
[23:15] <zerocool> can some one help!
[23:15] <zerocool> help!
[23:15] <User2> Jordan_U, i can't special request too...
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: yes
[23:15] <mickster04> !patience zerocool
[23:16] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | zerocool
[23:16] <sebsebseb> bappy2: it should show it, also if you upgrade now well good luck, since the amount of other people doing Lucid
[23:16] <CaptainTrek> xD
[23:16] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip,  so thats 4gb ram + 4gb swap, is that too much?
[23:16] <CaptainTrek> i cant even download from the torrent xD
[23:16] <Jordan_U> bappy2: No, have you tried checking for updates or changing mirrors? (your local mirror may be a bit behind)
[23:16] <mickster04> LinuxGuy2009: yeah i got that one wrong :S
[23:16] <downhill_> in the 10.04 RC, bash had colors. why doesn't the final have colors for things like `ls` and friends?
[23:16] <blueoveralls> I installed 10.04 as an update, I acidentally installed GRUB on both my main drive and my external HFS+ drive, and now the HFS+ drive doesn't mount, and Disk Utils shows it as empty an unpartitoned. It had my Time Machine backups and all my music on it, anything I can do?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> bappy2: also in certain ways Hardy is actsaully better than Lucid
[23:16] <Craig`> hey guys
[23:16] <joaopinto> Damo2k, thaks ok
[23:16] <zerocool> Ubuntu is freezing after login!
[23:16] <CaptainTrek> Damo2k: should be fine like that.
[23:16] <dupondje> downhill_: ls --color :)
[23:16] <sebsebseb> bappy2: plus no Ext4 file system or Grub 2, when upgrading Hardy to Lucid, but you don't really need those anyway
[23:16] <votex> zerocool : help with what.! Please mention.
[23:16] <Alienarch> whats the kde install name?
[23:16] <zilvinas> only 1 hard drive, and cursor wont move
[23:16] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, CaptainTrek, joaopinto  thanks guys
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> User2, ShipIt has a limit on how many CDs they'll send to an individual - perhaps you've reached the maximum
[23:16] <daftykins> Alienarch: kubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <downhill_> dupondje: no, I'm sorry, I mean to say the log-in (on the left there)
[23:17] <bappy2> Jordan_U: how do i know which mirror it is using, and how can i change it ?
[23:17] <Alienarch> i.e. sudo apt-get install (kde?)
[23:17] <tag> is 10.04 still not "LTS" ?
[23:17] <Craig`> I'm wanting to download 10.04, I was told that I can download a dvd iso, rather than cd iso and that it'd have more things preinstalled, where can I obtain this?
[23:17] <sebsebseb> tag: it is LTS
[23:17] <downhill_> I could do it myself, but that's not the question
[23:17] <hunahpu> Alienarch: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: if you just want to web browse an d chat etc then swap isnt needed, depends what the ubuntu os is for
[23:17] <bappy2> sebsebseb: i do have a few things broken on hardy, which is part of the reason why i want to upgrade to LucidGUI
[23:17] <sebsebseb> !dvd | Craig`
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Craig`: nope that's not it
[23:17] <bappy2> *lucid
[23:17] <zerocool> Ubuntu is freezing after login!
[23:17] <tag> sebsebseb: do-release-upgrade tells me there are no releases found.
[23:17] <bastid_raZor> Alienarch: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  ..if that is what you're wanting
[23:17] <CaptainTrek> Craig': 10.04 has language packs on its DVD version
[23:17] <Alienarch> hunahpu: ty ty ty i wasnet even close lol
[23:17] <Jordan_U> bappy2: System > Administration > Software Sources
[23:17] <CaptainTrek> additional ones
[23:17] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated
[23:17] <sebsebseb> bappy2: things that are broken such as?
[23:17] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, its more for experimentation, I havent messed with ubuntu since 8.10
[23:17] <LinuxGuy2009> tag: Yeah on ubuntu.com it says in plain letters LTS
[23:17] <agliodbs> gah
[23:17] <dupondje> Somebody knows if its possible to change the time display on the login screen to 24h format ? :)
[23:17] <candeller> Any ATI card users having problems with brightness?
[23:17] <LinuxGuy2009> !LTS
[23:17] <theGman> Jordan_U: Could you get anything form that paste?
[23:17] <agliodbs> the drivers Lexmark provides are all binary $&%&$
[23:17] <User2> ZykoticK9, how much shipits you have done? i have done just 2. I know people that have done about 30 and stay requesting
[23:17] <gnuvang> Lucid LTS is the new release
[23:17] <yaaar> howdy
[23:18] <tag> LinuxGuy2009: yes, I know.
[23:18] <agliodbs> which don't work on a print server
[23:18] <downhill_> this channel is way too busy heh
[23:18] <votex> zerocool : Ubuntu 9.10 or ...
[23:18] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | tag bappy2
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Damo2k: then you can omit it if you want, but 4gb is the norm for 4gb ram
[23:18] <EvRide> does Lucid come with XInput2?
[23:18] <tag> LinuxGuy2009: but at the same time, my system is set to prompt=lts and it's not picking up 10.04.
[23:18] <bappy2> sebsebseb: i'm missing a few .so files in my /usr/lib directory
[23:18] <Alienarch> hate installing a desktop on my server ;/
[23:18] <bappy2> (accidentally deleted)
[23:18] <tag> (from 8.04)
[23:18] <sebsebseb> bappy2: why?
[23:18] <daftykins> Alienarch: are you wanting to learn to do it CLI only?
[23:18] <Damo2k> ActionParsnip, I will try that now, thanks.. Chat to you later.
[23:18] <bappy2> (user stupidity)
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> User2, i just ordered a Lucid - which was my 2nd.  There didn't used to be a maximum, they're actually thinking about cancelling ShipIt altogether
[23:18] <rosco_y> what cd burning package do you recommend, that can verify that an image has been burned correctly?
[23:18] <LinuxGuy2009> dupondje: Maybe change the clock format after log in will reflect on the login screen as well?
[23:18] <lg> hey, i just updated ... and my grub got f***d, its in rescue mode now,what to do ?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> bappy2: ok yes maybe upgrade will put that back or not, but  10.04 is a good one to clean install really since what I mentioned about Ext4 file system
[23:18] <CaptainTrek> tag: you usually have to jump-frog up, no?
[23:18] <CaptainTrek> !language | lg
[23:18] <sebsebseb> bappy2: even though it's not really needed
[23:18] <dupondje> LinuxGuy2009: nope :)
[23:18] <hunahpu> Alienarch: you don't have to install desktop in a server; there are ubuntu-server editions
[23:18] <Alienarch> daftykins: not sure what CLI is but wanting to learn it yes, and use it for Web and File services
[23:19] <yaaar> do the new lucid cd's have an option to verify the media like the old ones did? if so, where do i find it? (the new cd drops me directly into X instead of giving me a bootloader screen as in previous versions)
[23:19] <sebsebseb> !language | lg
[23:19] <daftykins> Alienarch: command line interface
[23:19] <Alienarch> it's a LAMP install now
[23:19] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | yaaar
[23:19] <h00k> ubottu: tell lg about grub2
[23:19] <hunahpu> Craig`: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[23:19] <Jordan_U> theGman: That's odd, the fedora entries are missing a search --set --fs-uuid command (to set $root by UUID).
[23:19] <tag> CaptainTrek: jump-frog up?
[23:19] <Alienarch> Yeah running 10.04 server
[23:19] <LinuxGuy2009> dupondje: Maybe you should check the BIOS clock format and see if that does it?
[23:19] <GodricBrutus> when i click 'chat' on the top right, in the panel, it opens empathy (which i don't like). is there any way to set that up as pidgin instead?
[23:19] <h00k> lg: in those links contain a 'recover grub' section
[23:19] <CaptainTrek> tag: 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04 > 9.10 > 10.04
[23:19] <zilvinas> alright i figured it out myself. default installation settings install grub in another place wich even is unknown to me
[23:19] <theGman> Jordan_U: I believe it's also missing the proper path to the kernel too...from what I could tell...but I'm no expert...:)
[23:20] <bappy2> sebsebseb: what about ext4 and grub2? i didn't quite understand you the first time
[23:20] <bastid_raZor> CaptainTrek: tag 8.04 can be upgraded directly to 10.04
[23:20] <tag> CaptainTrek: No, 8.04 was the last LTS release.  So it's 9.10 > 10.04 and 8.04 > 10.04.
[23:20] <zilvinas> everything works fine
[23:20] <zilvinas> cya
[23:20] <sebsebseb> bappy2: Do you know what a file system is?  Do you know what a boot loader is?
[23:20] <rosco_y> Can anyone recommend a CD Burning Software that has an option to verify that an iso image was burned correctly?
[23:20] <bastid_raZor> rosco_y: k3b
[23:20] <Alienarch> rosco_y: nero express
[23:20] <Alienarch> err on linux, I dunno
[23:20] <User2> ZykoticK9, after requesting the second, do your recive the "You can't request anymore" advice?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> rosco_y: i'll go with K3B as well
[23:20] <yaaar> sebsebseb: i'm not talking about verifying the image. i'm talking about the cd. normally i wouldn't worry about it, but brasero gave me an error after the burn was complete. i've had that happen before and it's usually a false alarm, but if this was really a bad burn i'd like to know so i can do it over
[23:20] <sebsebseb> rosco_y: however brasero can maybe do it
[23:20] <LinuxGuy2009> !burn
[23:20] <bappy2> sebsebseb: i do, but i didnt get that part of why b/c of those two things i should do a clean install
[23:20] <tag> bastid_raZor: right, but for some ... reason, do-release-upgrade shows there's no releases (even though lsb_release -a shows 8.04 hardy and /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  is "Prompt=lts")
[23:20] <jaypur> my gimp, inkscape is all without icons... in 9.10 i went to a place where i could select to have icons at ubuntu or not, where is it at 10.4?
[23:21] <votex> rosco_y : Try K3B
[23:21] <Moa2020> Hmm
[23:21] <h00k> rosco_y: on the Ubuntu CD, it has an option to verify it when you boot from it
[23:21] <Moa2020> hello there
[23:21] <Moa2020> I have a silly question
[23:21] <daftykins> yaaar: boot it and run the disc check
[23:21] <ilf> update(s) went fine. however i had these error messages running release-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iWDxxTc3
[23:21] <sebsebseb> Moa2020: ok sure go a head
[23:21] <rosco_y> bastid_raZor: Alienarch, sebsebseb--Thanks (I'm not finding the "verify" option in brasero)
[23:21] <Moa2020> I think I might have installed a 32 bit Ubuntu on my 64 bit computer
[23:21] <nbktech> I have a running 10.04 RC and want to upgrade to the final release. I can't remember the cli command to do so
[23:21] <Moa2020> so.. 1. Is there a way to check ?
[23:21] <zerocool> Ubuntu is freezing after login! I think the Intel GPU is not solved!
[23:21] <bastid_raZor> Moa2020: uname -m
[23:21] <Moa2020> (conky says i686)
[23:21] <Pici> !final > nbktech
[23:21] <Moa2020> lemme check
[23:21] <rosco_y> Moa2020: I'm doing that on purpose right now
[23:21] <erUSUL> nbktech: use the update-manager
[23:21] <LinuxGuy2009> !md5sum | rosco_y
[23:21] <sebsebseb> !version  | Moa2020
[23:21] <daftykins> nbktech: you don't need to run a CLI command, just use the update manager.
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> User2, sorta - it only gives me the option to change my order, or purchase
[23:21] <LinuxGuy2009> Moa2020: 64bit CPUs can run either one.
[23:22] <Jordan_U> theGman: Try copying the fedora entries to /etc/grub.d/40_custom but add a line "search --set --fs-uuid <UUID of Fedora /boot partition here>"
[23:22] <jcbv> can i upgrade from live cd within ubuntu
[23:22] <Moa2020> LinuxGuy2009, what is the benefit of running 64 bit ?
[23:22] <Moa2020> besides the RAM
[23:22] <Jordan_U> theGman: You can find the uuid by running "sudo blkid"
[23:22] <rosco_y> LinuxGuy2009: I did verify the md5sum, but I want to verify that the files get burned onto the cd correctly
[23:22] <sebsebseb> jcbv: no
[23:22] <yaaar> daftykins: yes, that's exactly what i'm asking how to do. previous versions of ubuntu would present the user with a bootloader menu which included the option "verify the media" ...but the new lucid cd drops you directly into X instead. so....is there still a way to verify the media? and if so, where is it?
[23:22] <Moa2020> I have i686 apparently
[23:22] <erUSUL> jcbv: no only the alternate  cd can be used to do upgrades
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> Moa2020, faster video encoding comes to mind as a 64bit benefit
[23:22] <h00k> jcbv: I believe you need the alternate CD
[23:22] <sebsebseb> jcbv: if you had installed with the alternate CD though, you can upgrade with that
[23:22] <votex> rosco_y : Try K3B
[23:22] <tag> Oh well, I changed it from lts to normal and it picked up intrepid....
[23:22] <Moa2020> ZykoticK9,  what about decoding ?
[23:22] <tag> wtf.
[23:22] <zerocool> my g-d no one is has helped me!
[23:22] <bastid_raZor> Moa2020: that would be 32bit.
[23:22] <User2> ZykoticK9, but it already gives you the option of shipit again?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> tag: oh your on 8.04?
[23:22] <h00k> !patience | zerocool
[23:23] <Moa2020> okay
[23:23] <tag> sebsebseb: yes
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> Moa2020, not sure
[23:23] <Twiple> Jordan_U: So let's assume I install it, the GRUB won't launch windows, and I want to get rid of grub and make windows boot by default again, is there a way to do that short of reinstalling windows?
[23:23] <Moa2020> so next question...
[23:23] <daftykins> yaaar: when you see the logo, you press a key and that menu appears.
[23:23] <Moa2020> is there a way to upgrade from 32 bit to  64 bit without losing, like, everything ?
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> User2, if i want to pay
[23:23] <bappy2> Jordan_U: i can't open software sources .. do i need to login to the GUI as root or something?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> tag: you should be able to upgrade 8.04 directly to 10.04, however in certain ways 8.04 is actsaully stil better :)
[23:23] <yaaar> daftykins: any particular key?
[23:23] <zerocool> Ubuntu is freezing after login! I think the Intel GPU is not solved!
[23:23] <frex> how to get a date in my language format from the command line?
[23:23] <tag> sebsebseb: Yes, I'm kind of dying to get off subversion 1.4.x
[23:23] <jcbv> ok now its letting me upgrade from the system
[23:23] <daftykins> yaaar: not really, i used enter last though :)
[23:23] <zerocool> Ubuntu is freezing after login! I think the Intel GPU is not solved!
[23:23] <sebsebseb> tag: subversion remind me what that is
[23:23] <rosco_y> k3b is the one--thanks peoples!
[23:23] <theGman> Jordan_U: My Fedora boot is on /dev/sda3
[23:23] <clickme> hi
[23:23] <hunahpu> !patience | zerocool
[23:23] <tag> sebsebseb: version control system.
[23:24] <erUSUL> Moa2020: make a backup of your /home and use the tip in !clone then reinstall and restore apps and home
[23:24] <frankie_> do all programs work for 64bit ubuntu
[23:24] <erUSUL> !clone | Moa2020
[23:24] <sebsebseb> tag: yeah for proggramming isn't it?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Yes, you can run "fixboot" from a windows isntall CD, or use the "mbr" package to install an MS style MBR from Ubuntu
[23:24] <tag> sebsebseb: more or less.
[23:24] <sebsebseb> tag: right ok
[23:24] <votex> Moa2020 : nothing like that..
[23:24] <sebsebseb> tag: well
[23:24] <clickme> Hi Everyone
[23:24] <jcbv> can i use ubuntu to fry chicken
[23:24] <odyi> Anyone else seen lucid hanging shutdown?
[23:24] <LinuxGuy2009> zerocool: Not sure how to help thats probably why no one has helped, you have to remember we are all volunteers here.
[23:24] <Jordan_U> theGman: What is its UUID?
[23:24] <h00k> Moa2020: you will need to reinstall, do you have your /home on a separate partition?
[23:24] <eldon> i have my router set to use opendns, and last week my /etc/resolv.conf somehow updated itself to have rr.com at the top of the list, my isp.. what policies define what gets placed in this file?
[23:24] <ibqn> zerocool, see release notes, it tells about it
[23:24] <yaaar> daftykins: roger that. thanks
[23:24] <sebsebseb> tag:  you could upgrade sure,  or you maybe find a ppa for that for hardy
[23:24] <sebsebseb> tag: then you got a later version
[23:24] <clickme> i'm missing things from COMPIZ
[23:24] <Moa2020> I do not think so, h00k
[23:24] <skrag> hey guys, apt-get wont find the ia32-libs package, anyone know a diffrent name for it or a wget?
[23:24] <zerocool> ibqn, this is in Fedora too
[23:24] <elie-m> heyguyz, on 10.04 yet?
[23:24] <Moa2020> I am not sure if it is WORTH reinstalling either
[23:24] <theGman> Jordan_U: Not sure, I'm just using fdisk -l
[23:24] <NeoCicak> hi all.. just wondering if upgrading to 10.4 from 9.1 is straight forward...... i remember i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.1 and the system went so much slower, because 9.1 introduce a new filesystem (i think ext4), and with the old filesystem (ext3), 9.1 will be so slow
[23:24] <h00k> Moa2020: see the instructions above, you'll ne to reinstall
[23:24] <bappy2> when i run update-manager with the -d flag, then i see the option to update to lucid
[23:24] <elie-m> i'm still downloading :<
[23:25] <Ash_> Guys when i type "linux /boot/vmlinux-2.6.31.20-generic" it loads fine.. I get [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x3400, size.......etc.. Now when i type "boot" it tries to boot but i get a Kernel panic because it can't find my standard ext3 filesystem as this is a Wubi installation.. Help please?
[23:25] <Hariharakadan> #ubuntu-release-party still a spam-maelstrom?
[23:25] <wick94> hey guys
[23:25] <Jordan_U> theGman: use "sudo blkid"
[23:25] <Moa2020> Performance wise, there is no real impact, right?
[23:25] <LinuxID10T> What happened to old-releases.ubuntu.com?
[23:25] <elie-m> bappy2, run update-manager -c
[23:25] <LinuxID10T> It is missing several releases.
[23:25] <theGman> Jordan_U: Standby...
[23:25] <arcade> ZykoticK9: Seems to be a 'new' feature of bash that silly printing of ^C.  One can use stty -echoctl to disable it (but then loses ^Z when stopping a process.  It still works, but ^Z won't be printed.  But you get rid of the nasty ^C's :)
[23:25] <tag> sebsebseb: I see, apparently I have to do do-release-upgrade --devel-release
[23:25] <sebsebseb> tag: update manager should show Lucid.  maybe it's not since some sort of upgrade issue.  Also you would probably be interested to know, but if you clean install 10.04, you get the Ext4 file system by default, which should be a bit faster  for boot up and shut down, but also the automatic disk checking.  You would also get Grub 2, which isn't really needed.
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> arcade, thanks man :)
[23:26] <clickme> anyone know what if ubuntu removed options from compizconfig
[23:26] <waltercool> Ash_, Sorry... i dont know
[23:26] <tag> sebsebseb: (I didn't mention this is a server edition).
[23:26] <votex> Linux IDIOT : New ones replaced them.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> tag: oh server edition
[23:26] <arcade> ZykoticK9: Most annoying thing so far about upgrading ;)
[23:26] <LinuxGuy2009> skrag: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ia32-libs&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all
[23:26] <tharvey> where can I find md5 sums for lucid?
[23:26] <theGman> Jordan_U: It looks like some big, long hash code or something....
[23:26] <arcade> ZykoticK9: Finally found out to get rid of it.  *Phew*
[23:26] <medex> Sometimes update-manager doesnt offer new release right away to balance load.
[23:26] <bappy2> elie-m: update-manager -c does not show me the option to upgrade to lucid
[23:26] <sebsebseb> tag: well in that case what I said about Ext4 and Grub 2 really isn't that important and you want the server channel really #ubuntu-server
[23:26] <Jordan_U> clickme: No, you probably just want to install the extra plugins
[23:26] <kimmo> Hey everybody! I have issues with the top panel height in 10.04... If I make it more than 24px and the background repeats or something. Anybody else have the same problem?
[23:26] <LinuxGuy2009> !md5sum | tharvey
[23:26] <hunahpu> tharvey: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/MD5SUMS
[23:26] <LinuxID10T> votex: It is for a project of mine.  I would like to find Ubuntu 4.10.
[23:26] <elie-m> sebsebseb, he can update ext3 to ext4
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> arcade, glad you found a fix!  Appreciate you passing it along!
[23:26] <arcade> ZykoticK9: No problem.
[23:26] <Twiple> Jordan_U: so am I worrying too much?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> elie-m: it can be converted, but won't get the proper thing
[23:27] <LinuxGuy2009> I agree with seb
[23:27] <waltercool> Ash_, Maybe you have touched your root partition (where OS is located)
[23:27] <jcbv> can i upgrade my ppc ubuntu with update
[23:27] <tharvey> hunahpu, thx
[23:27] <votex> Linux IDIOT : searching please stay...
[23:27] <Pici> !tab | votex
[23:27] <elie-m> similar to upgrading and clean install
[23:27] <zerocool> some send a link to the release notes
[23:27] <bappy2> elie-m: i'm on hardy LTS. is lucid not LTS? is that why update-manager -c doesn't show but -d shows the option ?
[23:27] <a5hh0135> My VT's are gone... the ones that are F1 - F6 that should be there are gone. My monitor gives me the no signal box like it's unpluged but the keyboard is still responsive, can log in and everything... just do it blindly... anyone know how to fix this?
[23:27] <frankie_> do all programs work for 64bit ubuntu
[23:27] <hunahpu> tharvey: no problem, curious I was looking for the same thing when you asked :p
[23:27] <sebsebseb> bappy2: Lucid is LTS so it should show
[23:27] <clickme> i'm on uubntu lucid lynx and i installed compizConfig, but is missing options, can anyone please verify
[23:27] <daftykins> jcbv: be backed up first, things could go badly
[23:27] <theloser> zerocool: just type /topic
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Yes, but it's understandable.
[23:27] <elie-m> bappy2, it wont show u lucid if u were on hardy man
[23:27] <theGman> Jordan_U: All the uuid's look like that. Is that normal?
[23:27] <hunahpu> clickme: install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[23:28] <elie-m> bappy2, u should update to karmic then to lucid u cant skip and jump versions
[23:28] <Jordan_U> theGman: Yes, the purpose of UUID's is to be Unique
[23:28] <ibqn> zerocool, the workaround like disabling kms is mentioned or something ...
[23:28] <theGman> Jordan_U: Ah.
[23:28] <sebsebseb> bappy2: elie-m is wrong
[23:28] <Ash_> waltercool, yes my Wubi setup loads my root windows parition, but inside that you have a VFS whcih is my ubuntu, it doesn'ty find this by default it has to be specified somehow to loads from the VFS within my standard partition :( :( (:
[23:28] <sebsebseb> bappy2: you can't just directly upgrade hardy to karmic
[23:28] <LinuxGuy2009> frankie_: If you need to manually check packages.ubuntu.com, but in general i would probably guess both repos are pretty much the same for both architectures
[23:28] <elie-m> sebsebseb go read, he cant jump versions
[23:28] <ibqn> zerocool, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004
[23:28] <fxhp> What commands do I run to upgrade to lynx from terminal?
[23:28] <Jordan_U> theGman: That's why they are preffered to device names /dev/sda1 which can change with drive order.
[23:29] <StephenLinux> how do i update from rc to lts?
[23:29] <bappy2> a few weeks ago i was told that because lucid is LTS, and hardy was the LTS before it, i could upgrade directly from hardy to lucid
[23:29] <sebsebseb> bappy2: nevermind turns out I read what elie-m  put wrong
[23:29] <acicula> do-release-upgrade
[23:29] <frankie_> linuxguy2009 i want to install touchpad and flying toasters screnasver i am scared
[23:29] <theGman> Jordan_U: So, what are my options to rectify the situation? I'm intending on just installing the 9.10 desktop and just installing the server compponents I need.
[23:29] <hunahpu> fxhp: sudo update-manager -d
[23:29] <a5hh0135> Anyone know anything about missing F1 - F6 terminals?
[23:29] <bappy2> sebsebseb: ok, i'm confused now :)
[23:29] <MetalWolf> hrmm... lynx auto installer errored for me...
[23:29] <elie-m> bappy2, 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 and then u get lucid
[23:29] <ibqn> zerocool, see this http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[23:29] <medex> frankie_: that is wrong
[23:29] <sebsebseb> bappy2: you  should be able to directly upgrade a LTS to the next LTS
[23:29] <LinuxGuy2009> frankie_: xscreensavers
[23:29] <CaptainTrek> any way to prioritize usage of the internet bandwidth I have>
[23:29] <jarnos> Does PulseAudio on Ubuntu perform finally perform well? http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pa-in-ubuntu.html
[23:29] <sebsebseb> bencc: you shoudn't need to go through the other versions so 8.10, 9.04, and 9.10
[23:29] <Pici> elie-m, sebsebseb, bappy2: You can upgrade directly from Hardy to Lucid, as they are both LTSes.
[23:29] <fxhp> No gui hanahpu
[23:29] <theGman> Jordan_U: I can't have just a text env, I need to present web stuff to my clients and have the tools to make corrections etc...text env won't do. :/
[23:29] <frankie_> linuxguy2009 thank u
[23:29] <LinuxGuy2009> frankie_: yep
[23:30] <theGman> Jordan_U: Gotcha on the uuid's.
[23:30] <jcbv> froze on setting new software channels
[23:30] <overmacht> !party
[23:30] <elie-m> well what I did read said another thing. and that is that ucant skip versions
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> jarnos, i find it better then in Karmic - if that helps at all
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Pici: yes, that's a bit of a better explination  and more simple :D  altough that's basically what I was saying as well
[23:30] <CaptainTrek> Pici: nobody's seen that as an applicable option yet.  BTW, is there a way to upgrade to Lucid from Jaunty?
[23:30] <elie-m> I did read it on multiple places
[23:30] <votex> Linux IDIOT : In torrent is available..
[23:30] <frankie_> when instlaling flash i get could not find npackage 'adobe-flashplugin'???
[23:30] <sebsebseb> CaptainTrek: yes, but only through Karmic
[23:30] <jarnos> ZykoticK9: What kind of progress you found?
[23:30] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: hey.
[23:30] <Pici> CaptainTrek: Jaunty is not an LTS. You must go through the intermediary releases.
[23:30] <a5hh0135> Anyone know anything about missing F1 - F6 terminals?
[23:30] <vivid> whats the policy on nvidia-current, is this going to be updated to the current driver release? 195.36.24 atm
[23:30] <NFischer> is it enough to just run the update-manager in 10.04RC or should i change to final release??!
[23:30] <Twiple> Jordan_U: it came up saying /dev/sdb already has mounted partitions... what do I do?
[23:31] <elie-m> u cant skip versions
[23:31] <CaptainTrek> sebsebseb: so update manager > upgrade to 9.10 then upgrade to 10.04?
[23:31] <hunahpu> fxhp: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:31] <LinuxGuy2009> !final | NFischer
[23:31] <CaptainTrek> probability of success?
[23:31] <Pici> elie-m: Only for LTS to LTS you can.
[23:31] <elie-m> I'm pretty sure
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> jarnos, some of the games that where unplayable in Karmic (Quake4/Doom3) work in Lucid
[23:31] <RAGE8> Hello, anybody there?
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, hey
[23:31] <elie-m> well go try it and make him upgrade if u can
[23:31] <Pici> !notes | elie-m explains
[23:31] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Can you run "mount" and pastebin the output?
[23:31] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | RAGE8
[23:31] <clickme> uhmmm
[23:31] <cliff> Can any1 tell me if upgrade to Lucid Lynx through the update manager, will I lose my data (programs, files, etc)? I am running Karmic...
[23:31] <theGman> RAGE8: Just wathc the chan for a sec...you'll be able to tell. :P
[23:31] <Zorix> i cant get ubuntu 10.04 encryption working, it fails everytime, guided or manual.  I have done this many times before, is there a known problem on 10.04?
[23:31] <RAGE8> I found out that my Ubuntu is crashing, not going into sleep mode.
[23:31] <sebsebseb> CaptainTrek: yes that should work, if the 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade goes ok, but that may mess up.   Also no Ext4 file system or Grub 2 if you do that, but don't need those anyway.   You can install Grub 2 later if you really want it.  Ext3 can be converted to Ext4, but for the proper thing  would need to clean install the operating system.
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> jarnos, that is unplayable due to Pulse/Sound issues
[23:32] <clickme> this chat doesn't stop lolz like it use to
[23:32] <MotherMGA> Hi, how do I determine what devices X is using?  Is there a way to enumerate them?
[23:32] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: i manged to solve the issue i had 2 days ago with my ubuntu not booting.
[23:32] <LinuxGuy2009> !upgrade | cliff
[23:32] <theGman> wathc -> watch
[23:32] <NFischer> LinuxGuy2009, thx!
[23:32] <CaptainTrek> sebsebseb: is it possible to install 10.04 to a 64gb USB stick or summat?
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, glad to hear (i must admit i don't remember the issue, sorry)
[23:32] <Blues-Man> oh
[23:32] <LinuxGuy2009> NFischer: welcome
[23:32] <Blues-Man> lucid is out??
[23:32] <sebsebseb> CaptainTrek: in certain ways 9.04 is also still better
[23:32] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[23:32] <RAGE8> It's crashing for every version I install to my computer, no matter what I do. Sometimes it says going into sleep mode, sometimes it's crashing. Yes I turned the screensaver setting soff, power managment off, and yes I have been pressing make default and entering my password I just don't know anymore why it is crashing.
[23:32] <sebsebseb> !usb | CaptainTrek
[23:32] <elie-m> meh anyway I will be using the alternate installation and upgrade.. waiting for the download to complete
[23:32] <a5hh0135> My VT's are gone... the ones that are F1 - F6 that should be there are gone. My monitor gives me the no signal box like it's unpluged but the keyboard is still responsive, can log in and everything... just do it blindly... anyone know how to fix this?
[23:32] <Blues-Man> ahah
[23:33] <hunahpu> Blues-Man: yes lucid is out, please use Torrents to get it
[23:33] <MotherMGA> The problem I'm having is that my touchpad edge scrolling doesn't work.  I think X is using a default ps2 device rather than the touchpad. Thoughts?
[23:33] <theGman> Jordan_U: So, what are my options to rectify the situation?
[23:33] <CaptainTrek> sebsebseb: as in 9.04 is much mor stable and 10.04 might have some bugs?
[23:33] <Blues-Man> hughhalf, torrentfluxer :)
[23:33] <adac> is download rate on the upgrade only slow here or do you have same issues??
[23:33] <LinuxGuy2009> a5hh0135: analog VGA cable, CVI, HDMI?
[23:33] <LinuxGuy2009> DVI*
[23:33] <sebsebseb> CaptainTrek: no,  just 10.04 offers  some of us features, that we really don't want
[23:33] <Twiple> Jordan_U: oh, I think I figured it out, /dev/sdb1 is probably what it's talking about, and it's named "&0" or something, the goofy nickname ubuntu gives my SD card
[23:33] <Jordan_U> theGman: Try copying the fedora entries to /etc/grub.d/40_custom but add a line at the beginning with "search --set --fs-uuid <UUID of Fedora /boot partition here>"
[23:33] <Blues-Man> i come from intrepid and jaunty upgrade with many troubles..
[23:33] <Blues-Man> will i survive in this last upgrade??
[23:33] <Blues-Man> :)
[23:33] <accipter> can I define the directory to which the installation files are downloaded to? my netbook doesn't have enough free space on / for hte installation
[23:33] <elie-m> adac, i dont know I'm using the alternate upgrade, from torrent.. cause the servers will have huge pressure
[23:34] <StephenLinux> am i right in thinking and update manager run will upgrade rc to the final release?
[23:34] <elie-m> on release
 <ubottu> : I know how to upgrade I just want to know if I lose my data, the website doesn't say.
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> a5hh0135, you may want to add yourself to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/567047
[23:34] <RAGE8> Is there any way I can get personal help via private message, this is obviously long in hard since nobody has been able to solve my problem on ubuntuforums, nor here.
[23:34] <CaptainTrek> sebsebseb: ah, so no harm in checking it out first from a live image?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Blues-Man: the 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade,  went wrong for a lot of people, normalley they go well Ubuntu upgrades
[23:34] <CaptainTrek> cliff: what version you on now?
[23:34] <adac> elie-m, so you burn a cd and upgrade it from cd?
[23:34] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: it wouldn't boot due to a "cannot find /etc/fstab" error. i checked and fstab was in its proper place and contained the correct uuid so i couldn't figure out WHY that was. somebody on here suggested copying a fresh fstab from the recovery cd and that did the job.
[23:34] <LinuxID10T> votex: where?
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Try removing the SD card and running "sudo update-grub again"
[23:34] <LinuxGuy2009> accipter: packages from the repos are downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives/
 Karmic 9.10
[23:34] <votex> a5hh0135: Please use Pastebin
[23:34] <hunahpu> Blues-Man: default stuff have no problems at all, how many extra-work you'll need to do depends on how many custom settings/installed apps you have
[23:34] <Loshki> sebsebseb: Hi! That's interesting. Which features *don't* you want?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> CaptainTrek: indeed,   USB stick or a virtual machine if your hardware can support it enough RAM and such
[23:34] <Blues-Man> sebner, yes mesa drivers for intel broken all
[23:34] <RAGE8> Is there any way I can get personal help via private message, this is obviously long in hard since nobody has been able to solve my problem on ubuntuforums, nor here.
[23:34] <zerocool> ibqn, danke! Thank you so much!
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> evilbug, :)  good job
[23:34] <CaptainTrek> cliff: you shouldn't lose your data if you upgrade in place, but back it up first just to be safe :)
[23:35] <evilbug> ZykoticK9: redundant fstab...
[23:35] <elie-m> adac, yes that's an offline update with no internet needed.. and better so u can skip burning a CD and mount the ISO and upgrade from it
[23:35] <hunahpu> !patience | RAGE8
[23:35] <votex> LinuxID10T : With You..
[23:35] <CaptainTrek> sebsebseb: yeah, i've got craploads of USBs xD
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Loshki: Ubuntu One and the Music Store,  and I don't like how those non upstream Gnome edits are done on the top right,  with other Gnome features two of them not being there anymore, when enabled
[23:35] <llionne> hi, i want to know if my file and package config will be lost if i do an upgrade and package update ?
[23:35] <StephenLinux> RAGE8: what is you issue?
 thanx that's all i wanted to know.
[23:35] <RAGE8> Patience goes away after a week of hearing the same thing over and over again, hunahpu.
[23:35] <paris> Does anybody knows how to configure and use MySQL Query Browser?
[23:35] <zerocool> ibqn, you made my day, I was look for remedies for this problem and nothing worked
[23:35] <StephenLinux> RAGE8: whats wrong?
[23:35] <aj00200> I get the following error when trying to update to 10.04. "Software index is broken: It is impossible to install or remove any software". I ran sudo apt-get install -f like it said, but no luck. Anyone know what to do?
[23:35] <Twiple> Jordan_U: but I'm installing right now, sorry for the lack of clarity, I removed it and reran installer, the message went away
[23:35] <Alienarch> Is VNC server altomatically turned on on 10.04 server install?
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Loshki: The Music Store is the best feature of 10.04 really, but I won't be using it
[23:36] <a5hh0135> linuxguy2009: it's a regular monitor cable
[23:36] <RAGE8> No matter what version of ubuntu I download, it's crashes/goes into sleep mode when I'm doing stuff, and I've set screensaver and power managment to never and off, and it still does it.
[23:36] <adac> elie-m, in a future release it would be really awesome if when you start the upgrade/update process at the same time you can download from bittorent sources
[23:36] <hunahpu> RAGE8: I'm sorry but if no one knows the answer no one will answer :(
[23:36] <votex> RAGE8 : Over again and again ?? let us know
[23:36] <Twiple> Jordan_U: I do sort of wonder why it names it &0 though
[23:36] <RAGE8> I've updated the Bios of my computer, still does it.
[23:36] <Loshki> sebsebseb: I see. I missed all that not using gnome...
[23:36] <adac> elie-m, no server would do any harm then
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Loshki: are you on 10.04 now?
[23:36] <dan512> No audio on a system76 serval...
[23:36] <theGman> Jordan_U: Not sure if you ans me, had to step away (babysitting :P )
[23:36] <LinuxGuy2009> a5hh0135: Does your VGA cable have a short maybe?
[23:36] <hunahpu> RAGE8: it might be a hardware issue, have you tried different OS?
[23:37] <elie-m> adac, u just download from torrent than install it.. I didnt get ur idea sry
[23:37] <Loshki> sebsebseb: I just installed 10.04 about an hour ago. Had sound problems (fixed) and some font issues, but it's basically working for what little I need (web/xchat/mplayer)
[23:37] <Twiple> Jordan_U: ok, so I choose manual partition instead of whole disk I'm guessing?
[23:37] <adac> elie-m, well the upreade manager should be extended to a bittorent client. Hope you get me
[23:37] <rizu> The party is over ???
[23:37] <a5hh0135> linuxguy2009: would a short make it not display the F1-F6 terminals but display X on F7 just fine?
[23:37] <elie-m> adac, yeah I got u, but I dont think that's possible
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Loshki: Ok all that stuff on the top right except for the clock,  that's not really part of Gnome,  only Ubuntu.
[23:37] <StephenLinux> what is needed to get from 10.04rc to10.04final?
[23:37] <elie-m> all I want and wish and pray for is a smooth upgrade with no problems :S
[23:38] <Xgates> hey all
[23:38] <paris> Please folks, help about MySQL query-browser?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Why are you re-installing?
[23:38] <adac> elie-m, hmm why not? ever ypackage before its insalled should be prove against a checksum on the verfied server and fine it is
[23:38] <llionne> elie-m: like you :)
[23:38] <LivenDie> is anyone having a problem with torrents?
[23:38] <Loshki> sebsebseb: I don't see any of that as I use fvwm. You can't even tell it's 10.04 from looking at my desktop...
[23:38] <llionne> i hope that i don't losr my config file
[23:38] <Xgates> say I thought the Lucid mini iso would provide the same hardware support? It won't recognize my laptop ethernet or wifi and I'm bummed because I wanted to do a minimal install of Ubuntu
[23:38] <hunahpu> LivenDie: nope, I'm seeding without problems :)
[23:39] <votex> RAGE8 : Bios update or upgrade will cause problems.
[23:39] <Twiple> Jordan_U: I was asking you these questions before my first install, my last attemp I spoke of was actually 2 years ago
[23:39]  * edwardthefma is installing ubuntu im at disk partishioning i need help
[23:39] <Jordan_U> elie-m: adac: It's possible to use bittorrent with apt, there's just no nice GUI way to set it up currently
[23:39] <edwardthefma> wich 1 is recomended
[23:39] <Twiple> Jordan_U: I need to be more clear, sorry about that
[23:39] <jcbv> so if i upgrade my desktop will look the same i take it
[23:39] <extor> Is there any linux supported raid or clustering or san/nas solution that is capable of using SSD drives as a sort of "forward cache" where it stuffs the most frequently accessed sectors on the raided platter drives?
[23:39] <adac> Jordan_U, elie-m really. thats pretty cool. Must check that out
[23:39] <a5hh0135> Anyone know anything about missing F1 - F6 terminals?
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Loshki: I don't like how some of that is linked together as well.  the envelope and sound applet.  the social feature and edited fast user account switcher.  and how automatic shut down feature is removed,  when fusa is enabled, plus no shut down and log out in system menu where it should be really.   Well if on Gnome on 10.04 you'll see what I mean I guess or whatever.  Anyway oh right fvwm that's kind of interesting,  but that also means you can
[23:40] <sebsebseb> use pretty much any desktop Linux distro, for what you want to do :)
[23:40] <brummbaer> oO torrent w/ apt?! link plz?!
[23:40] <hunahpu> edwardthefma: if you have no other OS's, use the whole disk (recommenden for new-commers); a "recommended" partitioning scheme depends on each user needs
[23:40] <votex> RAGE8 : I guess time to replace your motherboard..
[23:40] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Ok, there should be an "automatic side by side with windows" type option, that's probably the best to choose.
[23:40] <josemoreira> anyone running Lucid and eepc? my brighness is messed up and cant find a bug for it on launchpad
[23:40] <LinuxGuy2009> a5hh0135: No TTYs at all?
[23:40] <elie-m> Jordan_U, I never tried that, cz usually I use the bittorent client for it, it's better but thx for the info
[23:40] <imagine7xy> Could somebody please help me uninstall a program on Linux?
[23:40] <elie-m> llionne, thx
[23:40] <sam204475> YAY I GOT 10.04 ~~~!
[23:40] <sebsebseb> imagine7xy: sudo apt-get purge program name,  that does config files as well, remove is just the program
[23:40] <jcbv> well if fb goes under that will make this verison dead
[23:41] <imagine7xy> sebsebseb: What if I don't know the program name?
[23:41] <eeebuntu> qb1 define ubuntu
[23:41] <Loshki> sebsebseb: yes, that's true, almost any linux would work for me. I like Ubuntu though, as it has most everything I've ever looked for pre-compiled...
[23:41] <harovali> hi , please help , what's the command to restart dhcpcd client in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[23:41] <LinuxGuy2009> imagine7xy: Open the software center, look under installed applications, remove whatever you want
[23:41] <elie-m> only 21 minutes left to download finish
[23:41] <remyo> Where can I find the 10.04 minimum requirements?
[23:41] <adac> Jordan_U, can you link me to a howto for apt and torrent?
[23:41] <sebsebseb> Loshki: such as?
[23:41] <trism> sebsebseb: if you remove the indicator-applet-session, the logout/shutdown menu options will return to the System menu (those one's also have the 60 second timeout like before)
[23:41] <a5hh0135> linuxguy2009: only F7, the rest take keyboard input as i created a file in my home dir blindly. But F7 is what i'm on now
[23:41] <remyo> system requirements I mean
[23:41] <Twiple> Jordan_U: from what I can see, windows XP is sda1, the extra partition with no OS on it is sda2, and the recovery partition is sda3, and there is no automatic side by side with windows option...
[23:41] <sebsebseb> trism: yes I know,  but  like with 9.04, what if really want both,  edited fusa, and in the system menu?
[23:41] <votex> imagine7xy : what you want to uninstal.
[23:41] <rizu> Josereira: using Netbook Remix 10.04??
[23:41] <sebsebseb> trism: like with 9.04 and 9.10 even, above
[23:42] <alket> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 x64, this is my first time that I install x64 arch, my problem is: Can't install flash from adobe.com
[23:42] <LinuxGuy2009> !requirements | remyo:
[23:42] <imagine7xy> I want to uninstall these ATI drivers, the system says they are only partially installed
[23:42] <plum> hey, how do i install compiz cube on 10.04?
[23:42] <tman_> im running ubuntu 10.04 final its a dream come TRUE my wifi card worked right out of the box everything else did too:):):)!!!!! ubuntu 10.04 rules
[23:42] <LinuxGuy2009> !requirements | remyo
[23:42] <Jordan_U> adac: http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/
[23:42] <imagine7xy> I see the Control center for catalyst
[23:42] <sebsebseb> trism: plus what if wanting the automatic upstream Gnome shut down feature, whilst having edited fusa?
[23:42] <imagine7xy> In the Administration menu
[23:42] <frankie_> alket : i am having the same problem :/
[23:42] <LinuxGuy2009> Sorry
[23:42] <sam204475> OH MY GOD  i looooove 10.04  i can make my own images in 10.04  before other people would have to burn them for me.   this is great.   The ubuntu team are the best...  really  thanks to all of you for your help and i looove ubuntu!!!!   :D
[23:42] <sebsebseb> tman_: plus  in the menu. see what I mean?
[23:42] <jcbv> cube does not work anymore officially
[23:42] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Sorry, I have to leave for a while.
[23:42] <Twiple> ok...
[23:42] <campee> where is the md5sum for ubuntu 10.04?
[23:42] <plum> jcbv: :(
[23:42] <campee> it's not on the hashes page
[23:42] <trism> sebsebseb: I don't know what "fusa" is
[23:43] <jcbv> on my card that is
[23:43] <LinuxGuy2009> sam204475: High Five!
[23:43] <imagine7xy> votex: I am trying to uninstall Catalyst Control Center ATI
[23:43] <sebsebseb> trism: the way to shut down on the top right
[23:43] <elie-m> plum, for the cube to work u'd have to have 4 virtual desktop, and compiz installed ( as of 9.10) as I dont have 10.04 yet(downloading)
[23:43] <tat-> campee: http://no.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/MD5SUMS
[23:43] <Twiple> so can anyone here tell me why there is no "side by side with windows" installation option?
[23:43] <Loshki> sebsebseb: handbrake, skype, stuff for making dvds and avis, and really good support. Pretty much any problem you encounter has been seen by *somebody* and there's usually always a fix unless it's really obscure. Redhat used to be like that...
[23:43] <adac> Jordan_U, nice thx! Cause since I have a wireless provider (shared medium),  multiple connections/downloads do really speed up the whole thing
[23:43] <campee> thanks tat-
[23:43] <Twiple> thanks, jordan_u, bye!
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Loshki: I guess Mandriva used to be like that as well, when it had most Desktop Linux users
[23:43] <sam204475> Linuxguy2009 ~  this is it dude.  im going linux~ haha  it took me three years. but here it is a  linux i can actually use on my computer ~  :D  < can u see how happy i is? hehe
[23:44] <sebsebseb> Loshki: Mandriva/Mandrake
[23:44] <jcbv> anyone got compiz wokring with tnt 2 vanta or geforce 2 gts
[23:44] <imagine7xy> Basically, I'm trying to uninstall what is in /usr/share/ati/
[23:44] <imagine7xy> It will not let me though
[23:44] <zeddy> hello
[23:44] <digitaloktay> working realtime-kernel with nvidia driver in ubuntustudio =
[23:44] <digitaloktay> ??
[23:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: Who said there wasnt?
[23:44] <trism> sebsebseb: oh, from what I've seen, removing the timeout from that applet is hard coded, so you're out of luck there without code edits
[23:44] <zeddy> clean
[23:44] <imagine7xy> It says I need to do a Force install but the command isn't working for me
[23:44] <elie-m> Twiple, I read that the boot isnt interactive anymore peoople owuld have to press anykey at the boot to get additional conf.. I dont know if that's what they meant by no longer interactive
[23:44] <imagine7xy> Force uninstall
[23:44] <sebsebseb> trism: yes that's what I thought,  can't have both
[23:44] <digitaloktay> !studio
[23:44] <jcbv> 2 hours and 30 minutes to download jeez
[23:44] <sebsebseb> trism: same thing for the system menu, and shut down on top right thing
[23:44] <sebsebseb> trism: it seems, can't have both
[23:44] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: I did, it's not showing up at the partition part of the installation
[23:44] <imagine7xy> I'm sitting here in Low Graphics mode because I cannot get ATI to work
[23:45] <Loshki> sebsebseb: I've played with Mandriva under vmware (actually I've played with most distros that way), and none have been obviously better than Ubuntu...
[23:45] <zeddy> can you help me?? i have instal ubuntu 9.10 and i havent dual boot with winzoz seven
[23:45] <elie-m> jcbv, it's taking more for me
[23:45] <zeddy> can you help me?? i have instal ubuntu 9.10 and i havent dual boot with winzoz seven
[23:45] <votex> imagine7xy : Disable the drivers instead of uninstalling.
[23:45] <Gino> Hi.
[23:45] <jcbv> my isp restriced me to 100 kb
[23:45] <imagine7xy> votex: I have already Disabled them
[23:45] <xdrazen> hello
[23:45] <plum> elie-m: so i won't be able to install compiz cube on 10.04?
[23:45] <imagine7xy> votex: This is a tough problem I have
[23:45] <trism> sebsebseb: oh, I'm sure you could probably have both some how, I haven't investigated though
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Loshki: depends on the user and such, but personally for me I am glad I got  rid  of Ubuntu 9.10 on here and did Mandriva One 2010,  other computer is still Ubuntu.   oh yeah and all of this is off topic really
[23:45] <elie-m> plum, of course u can
[23:45] <jcbv> with 3 old computers and one half broke cd room things dont look to good if this upgrade crashes
[23:46] <sebsebseb> trism: maybe some gconf editing or something
[23:46] <elie-m> zeddy, did u choose the install to install them side by side?
[23:46] <Loshki> sebsebseb: good to see you back on the channel though :-)
[23:46] <plum> elie-m: what package name is it? cause ubuntu came with 4 home screens as it is... so it would be easy to put compiz on i'd think...
[23:46] <imagine7xy> votex: May I message you on IRC?
[23:46] <tolvis> Hello! just updated to 10 but when i try to boot thers a problem mountung Proc/bus/usb. anyone no how to fix it?
[23:46] <theGman> Ok, now am in X so I can use a graphical web browser, need ALL the assistance I can get to fix my grub not letting me boot my default Fedora OS...X(
[23:46] <sebsebseb> Loshki: ok  pm me, and remind me who you are, since we are off topic, also that name does seem familuar after you say that
[23:46] <elie-m> plum, wait let me see on my repository
[23:46] <votex> imagine7xy : why not.
[23:46] <Loshki> sebsebseb: no time for PM. I used to be Losha...
[23:47] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: is it supposed to?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Loshki: oh your going with that name now?
[23:47] <ChogyDan> theGman: are you using grub2?
[23:47] <PMantis> Could we place have more seeders on the 64-bit server version?
[23:47] <zeddy> elie-m yes this isn't my first installation
[23:47] <elie-m> plum, I think it is compiz-core
[23:47] <zeddy> first seven
[23:47] <pinnen> why is firefox so ugly in ubuntu? The tabls look like shit?
[23:47] <frankie_> should i use ext4 or ext3 when creating a new partition for ubuntu ?
[23:47] <theGman> ChogyDan: I believe so, at least that's what I remeber from install.
[23:47] <plum> kk, i'll try that, elie-m
[23:47] <plum> thanks
[23:47] <elie-m> zeddy, use update-grub
[23:47] <frankie_> i have a ntfs partition i want to use
[23:47] <trism> sebsebseb: yes, you're right, /apps/indicator-session/suppress_shutdown_menuitem, likewise for logout and others
[23:47] <zeddy> after ubuntu
[23:47] <Loshki> sebsebseb: lately I got a bunch of people saying how helpful I was for a girl, apparently because my name ended in "a"...
[23:47] <pinnen> I mean, it's ugly in all distributions
[23:47] <sebsebseb> pinnen: agreed it does with the default Ubuntu 10.04  themes
[23:47] <lucas-arg> will 10.10 have gnome3?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> pinnen: so the default black one, but also the grey one
[23:47] <pinnen> sebsebseb: yes
[23:47] <ChogyDan> theGman: try sudo update-grub
[23:47] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: Sorry you have to remeber there are 1700 people here all talking at once. Gotta speak clearly and refresh my mind.
[23:48] <sebsebseb> pinnen: is Ubuntu 10.04 your first version or?
[23:48] <pinnen> sebsebseb: mno
[23:48] <pinnen> no
[23:48] <maco> Loshki: thats a bit insulting "you're helpful....for a girl" O_o
[23:48] <pinnen> im a long therm linux user
[23:48] <pinnen> and just angry because firefox tabs allways looked like shit :D
[23:48] <sebsebseb> pinnen: ok well ever like human, you know the previous default?
[23:48] <pinnen> hehe
[23:48] <pinnen> if I compare it to windows firefox .. it's such a huge difference
[23:48] <sebsebseb> pinnen: well before 9.10,  the like brown orange look :)  the 9.10 version not so nice.  anyway you can install that from the repo,  but also some other themes that  aren't that good
[23:48] <elie-m> only 7% left of my 10.04 download :D
[23:48] <orange_tomek> quick question, if I installed ubuntu 10.4 beta2, is there a way to upgrade to the final release of 10.4 or do I have to reinstall the OS?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> pinnen: then of course theme sites and that
[23:49] <pinnen> sebsebseb: ahh, I see
[23:49] <itilious> how can i use --replace metacity via remote ternimal?
[23:49] <Loshki> maco: I know. Though I admit nerd girls are kind of rare. Anyway, I decided to change my nick just enough to forestall the issue...
[23:49] <itilious> i get the error "unable to open X display"
[23:49] <pinnen> sebsebseb: I think I tried the brown one in earlier ubuntu's and liked it :D
[23:49] <zeddy> elie-m ok i have update grub now restart
[23:49] <LinuxGuy2009> !fusion-icon itilious
[23:49] <sebsebseb> pinnen: well in that case
[23:49] <Technoviking> anyone know where the defaults.conf file for gdm is located now
[23:49] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: I ran the installer to install ubuntu 10.4 to the computer, there are four partitions, a windows partition, a filestoring NTFS partition, another windows partition(specialized for computer recovery in case things go very wrong), and a fourth one that's small and unknown
[23:49] <sebsebseb> pinnen: right uhmm
[23:49] <LivenDie> itilious: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[23:49] <frankie_> help, im trying to install ubuntu and it is asking me for a mount point, i have no idea what that means?
[23:49] <elie-m> zeddy, good luck, u must have known b4 if it detected it, as it says so in the verbose in terminal
[23:50] <sebsebseb> pinnen: sudo apt-get install human-theme
[23:50] <pinnen> sebsebseb: if I compare firefox (windows) and firefox (linux) per defaul, I must say that the tabs in linux looks really bad and takes up soooooo much unneccessary space
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !info human-theme
[23:50] <LivenDie> itilious: then remove metacity and reinstall it
[23:50] <maco> Loshki: can i pm?
[23:50] <theGman> ChogyDan: I did, I got errors so Jordan_U had me delete the .map file. I just tried it again and it seems to have worked with no errors...
[23:50] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: I got to the partition part and it does not offer an "install side by side with windows" option
[23:50] <Loshki> maco: please do...
[23:50] <Technoviking> want to try increse GdmXserverTimeout to fix a problem
[23:50] <hoban> hello. I updated to lucid and I keep getting errors when I try to perform system updates such as: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://mirrors.us.kernel.org lucid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[23:50] <MotherMGA> I'm running 10.4 on a Sony Viao E series laptop.  My sound works through headphones but is extremely quiet and all of my sound sliders are maxed out.  I can't tell if its actually playing through speakers though because its so quiet.  Is there a fix for this?
[23:50] <evilbug> frankie_: is ubuntu going to be the only os on that computer?
[23:50] <hoban> how do I fix please?
[23:50] <pinnen> sebsebseb: ahh okay.. tnx m8 :D
[23:50] <frankie_> evilbug : yes
[23:50] <sebsebseb> pinnen: by default after isntalling human-theme you get that newer Ubuntu logo showing,  personalley what I will do is customize it and put the Gnome icons :)
[23:50] <digitaloktay> hey can i use this new themes for debian lenny ?
[23:50] <pinnen> sebsebseb: ok :) kewl
[23:51] <sebsebseb> pinnen: they removed it in Lucid, but in the repo :)
[23:51] <zeddy> yes winzoz seven ys detected in terminal now restart
[23:51] <theGman> ChogyDan: I guess the only real way to find out is to reboot and see what happens eh?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> pinnen: there's also a human-legacy theme which is more brown
[23:51] <evilbug> frankie_: running the desktop cd?
[23:51] <elie-m> zeddy, alright :) gdluck!
[23:51] <ChogyDan> theGman: ya, I think so
[23:51] <pinnen> sebsebseb: okay
[23:51] <dereine> is there a repo where i can use php 5.2 on ubuntu 10.04?
[23:51] <alket> ok, due to the lack of stable-flash support in x64 lucid, im trying to install flash 10 form adobe labs, but i get this error while installing: Segmentation Fault ?
[23:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: Well to be honest unless you know what your doing then your gonna screw up Windows. So expect it. Backup Backup Backup!
[23:51] <uLinux> How can I update grub entries? I want to remove the old ones.
[23:51] <theGman> ChogyDan: Be back soon then. :P
[23:51] <frankie_> evilbug yes, i am setting up a new partition, formatting windows off and putting ubuntu lucid lynx 64bit in
[23:51] <itilious> LivenDie, i dont want to remove it, i simply want to stop the "visual effects" because my nvidia drivers wont let me use remote desktop when they are enabled
[23:51] <sebsebseb> pinnen: if you knew the colour code,  you should just edit the clear looks blue  theme by the way, and have human basicalley
[23:51] <chun_> Can anyone help? I'm dual booting Lucid and Win7, and Ubuntu won't boot -- after selecting it in grub I get a tiny bit of disk activity then just a blank screen. Win7 boots fine. Any suggestions?
[23:51] <elie-m> uLinux, sudo update-grub
[23:51] <sebsebseb> pinnen: could not should above
[23:51]  * eeebuntu 
[23:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: Most windows users have 2 existing partitions. windows and swap
[23:52] <ChogyDan> uLinux: you may also have to remove some of the old linux kernels
[23:52] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: why won't side by side with windows show up?
[23:52] <pinnen> sebsebseb: okay
[23:52] <sivel> Ok, this is a bit annoying.  I cannot get my headphones port or my microphone on my toshiba laptop working...
[23:52] <sebsebseb> pinnen: there's a program built in for themeing FIrefox in 3.6
[23:52]  * eeebuntu wants some attention.
[23:52] <pinnen> sebsebseb: well, I shall exepriemnt with this :D
[23:52] <uLinux> ChogyDan how
[23:52] <pinnen> ohh it is?
[23:52] <Exile> hey guys just upgraded and my firefox is broken
[23:52] <sebsebseb> pinnen: uhmm hold on
[23:52] <pinnen> mkay
[23:52] <darkkilla> hi
[23:52] <Exile> I get a segmentation fault when I try and load firefox
[23:52] <Exile> anyone got any ideas>
[23:53] <Exile> ?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> pinnen: right
[23:53] <evilbug> frankie_: make sure the correct partition for the install is selected and then mount point should be "/" without the quotes.
[23:53] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: isn't it supposed to?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> pinnen: personas  ,but you will have that already in your Firefox on 10.04
[23:53] <a5hh0135> Anyone know anything about missing F1 - F6 terminals?
[23:53] <Exile> it says Attempting to load the system libmoon
[23:53] <ChogyDan> uLinux: I use synaptic, remove the older versions of linux-image  and make sure linux-generic is installed
[23:53] <evilbug> frankie_: unless you have some other custom directories set up.
[23:53] <chun_> Can anyone help? I'm dual booting Lucid and Win7, and Ubuntu won't boot -- after selecting it in grub I get a tiny bit of disk activity then just a blank screen. I've tried reinstalling grub using a live disc. Win7 boots fine. This has just started happening, it's worked fine up until now. Any suggestions?
[23:53] <pinnen> sebsebseb: nice
[23:53] <elie-m> uLinux ull have to apt-get remove the old kernels, they will automatically update grub and remove themselves
[23:53] <sebsebseb> pinnen: then you can just go on the site for that
[23:53] <itilious> would anyone know how to "easily" disable these effects remotely to enable me to use remote desktop?
[23:53] <frankie_> evilbug thank you, there it goes
[23:53] <LivenDie> itilious: i'm not totally sure but you could probably edit you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  You could also try running nvidia-detector to reset that file
[23:53] <sebsebseb> pinnen: or use the add on,  and like well select htemes easilly. on the site it's like drag on a theme and it shows you what it would look like
[23:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: With a normal 2 partition setup sure. Otherwise you need to manually resize partitions to make room and do it all yourself.
[23:53] <NeoCicak> hello all.. is there a  way to point the ubuntu repository that my machine is using, to the mirror from my ISP?
[23:54] <subone> I noticed that file transfers in nautilus are done simultaneously, which may slow down transfers to the same device. Is there any way I can set this to only do one file operation at a time and queue the rest?
[23:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: But Im not the best one to ask. I dont use Windows anymore.
[23:54] <xdrazen> someone here speaks spanish?
[23:54] <darkkilla> I just updated from Ubuntu 9.10 (alternate AMD64) to 10.04 and there's one thing I really don't like: I can't select mplayer as the default application for files... it doesn't show up in the list but synaptic tells me that it is installed
[23:54] <xomp> hallo, I'm having problems installing grub to my external hdd. Getting the following error message: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sdd1 Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. Can someone help?
[23:54] <evilbug> frankie_: good luck.
[23:54] <sebsebseb> pinnen: well have fun with 10.04  and looking like previous versions, I guess :)
[23:54] <Technoviking> Is there a file that I can set GdmXserverTimeout, want to try increse GdmXserverTimeout to fix a problem?
[23:54] <Technoviking> Was in /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf, but not in 10.04
[23:54] <darkkilla> I can select SMplayer but I prefer mplayer
[23:54] <Twiple> :(
[23:54] <uLinux> linux-image-2.6.31-21-generic
[23:54] <uLinux> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.31 on x86/x86_64
[23:54] <pinnen> sebsebseb: hey tnx for the help, I will experiment with it and see where it leads :D
[23:54] <uLinux> this right
[23:54] <sebsebseb> pinnen: ok np
[23:55] <pinnen> opensource are a greate thing and beats windows in a million years
[23:55] <sebsebseb> pinnen: indeed
[23:55] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: It's a swap partition the size of my RAM and a normal boot partition, right?
[23:55] <darkkilla> @pinnen: Full ack!
[23:55] <sebsebseb> pinnen: except for some projects
[23:55] <_dreamy> can anyone recomend me a good LAN connection manager .. that can combine with WICD ?  ( thanks in a advance)
[23:55] <elie-m> uLinux, this is the last 1 on ubuntu 9.10 as of 10.04 I think they updated the kernel to a higher version
[23:55] <zeddy> elie-m thanks I had not thought
[23:55] <uLinux> yes elie-m  the new one is 32
[23:56] <sebsebseb> pinnen: plus a lot of open source is cross platform, so also works on Windows
[23:56] <uLinux> should i remove the old kernel?
[23:56] <elie-m> uLinux, so if u wanna remove the 31-21, and u sure about it, remove it and it will update grub by itself, removing itself
[23:56] <pinnen> sebsebseb: yes, everything should be opensource :)
[23:56] <chun_> Can anyone help? I'm dual booting Lucid and Win7, and Ubuntu won't boot -- after selecting it in grub I get a tiny bit of disk activity then just a blank screen. I've tried reinstalling grub using a live disc. Win7 boots fine. This has just started happening, it's worked fine up until now. Any suggestions?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> pinnen: however best to run that stuff on an open source OS really :)
[23:56] <iroquois> hi all,which wine package should i choose?.There's about 10 in the synaptic package manager
[23:56] <elie-m> uLinux I did it that way and worked for me
[23:56] <elie-m> zeddy, wlc man
[23:56] <sebsebseb> pinnen: most programs should be really yes
[23:56] <pinnen> yupp
[23:56] <Exile> aha fixed my problem
[23:56] <pinnen> why not :)
[23:56] <a5hh0135> My VT's are gone... the ones that are F1 - F6 that should be there are gone F7 is what I'm on currently. My monitor gives me the no signal box like it's unpluged but the keyboard is still responsive, can log in and everything... just do it blindly... anyone know how to fix this?
[23:57] <darkkilla> by the way... I get a strange error whenever I start a bash: It tells me that there's a syntax error in /etc/bash_completion.d/cowsay in line 12: "Unknown word `kn'"
[23:57] <xangua> iroquois: sudo apt-get install wine
[23:57] <iroquois> ty very much xan
[23:57] <elie-m> iroquois, my latest wine 1.40-1
[23:57] <zeddy> elie-m good night buona sera a tutti
[23:57] <itilious> i REALLY hope this is fixed in the next version of Ubuntu, kinda sad that ALL nvidia users have to have this problem with remote desktop
[23:57] <Twiple> So why won't "install side by side with windows" show up?
[23:57] <uLinux> elie-m ok im gonna mark it for Complete Removal i hope it doesnt ruin anything :P
[23:57] <elie-m> zeddy, gdnight u 2
[23:57] <Craig`> nice, 10.04 is downloaded :)
[23:58] <davidthedrake> Hello. I'm working with a new Ubuntu installation and I've run into a weird problem that is giving me troubles. I'm just trying to run a file that is in the current directory I'm in. To do so, I'm entering ./filename. When I do, I get a "-bash: ./filename: No such file or directory". What am I missing here?
[23:58] <elie-m> if u're sure u have 32 online it wont ruin it
[23:58] <Twiple> is it because I have 2 windows partitions?
[23:58] <darkkilla> @davidthedrake: What kind of file is it?
[23:58] <{g}> Hey People! I sometimes have to reboot my notebook to regain wireless access. Any ideas why? tail /var/log/syslog says "could not trigger wireless scan device or resource busy"
[23:58] <DrMrHorse> wow lucid works like magic! no karmic-era problems here
[23:58] <blendmaster1024> i'm getting a lot of "INFO: using unknown version '/usr/bin/python3.0' (debian_defaults not up-to-date?)" when i use APT atm, how do i fix debian_defaults so it doesn't use python 3? other than removing py3
[23:58] <MotherMGA> Is there a way to find the xorg server layout that is auto detected in ubuntu 10.4?  My xorg.conf doesn't have a server layout specified.
[23:58] <_dreamy> anyone helping , is there any network manager that doesnt conflicts with WICD ? ... or .. may wicd do a LAN connection ?
[23:58] <elie-m> uLinux, if u're sure that u have a newer 1 that u log with on grub to ur linux, it wont ruin anything
[23:59] <davidthedrake> darkkilla: How can I tell what type of file it is?
[23:59] <DrMrHorse> _dreamy: yes, wicd does wired
[23:59] <mateobur> Hello
[23:59] <JarrettV> i was hoping ubuntu would work on virtual pc
[23:59] <subone> !lucid | MotherMGA
[23:59] <subone> er...
[23:59] <uLinux> elie-m i have 2 kernel version one is 31 another is 32
[23:59] <davidthedrake> darkkilla: it has no extension and nothing at the top of the file.
[23:59] <subone> !ubuntu+1 | MotherMGA
[23:59] <mateobur> Im using 10.04 on a macbook, everything works fine except the touchpad, any hints on this ??
[23:59] <uLinux> brb
[23:59] <_dreamy> DrMrHorse: can u give me a hint.. on what option should i look for ?
[23:59] <sender> hello, I've upgraded 9.10 to 10.4 in a VMware image. When rebooting, I can't use the keyboard to enter a password. Any ideas?