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| qense | tedg: There is this bug report that says that if an application using KNotify is running the Application Indicators will disappear after a while. Do you have any idea how such a thing could happen? | 19:06 |
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| qense | It's bug #568262 | 19:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 568262 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "programs disappear from the applet (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568262 | 19:07 |
| tedg | qense: No, that seems a little crazy. | 19:07 |
| qense | Yeah, that's what I thought. | 19:07 |
| qense | But the reporter did confirm that not running a KNotify user did make the problem go away. | 19:07 |
| qense | The last comments seem to be unrelated to the bug. | 19:08 |
| tedg | qense: So they're running GNOME and KNotify? | 19:08 |
| tedg | They must be fighting over the dbus name... | 19:08 |
| qense | They're running an application that implements KNotify and therefore should have the advantage of a natively drawn Indicator. | 19:08 |
| qense | Quassel | 19:09 |
| qense | e.g. | 19:09 |
| tedg | Ah, okay. I thought they were running the KDE display component. | 19:09 |
| qense | Could it be possible that Quassel launches the KNotify daemon? | 19:09 |
| qense | Take a look at the XSession errors file! | 19:10 |
| qense | "knotify(2798) NotifyByPopup::slotServiceOwnerChanged: "org.freedesktop.Notifications" "" "_"" | 19:10 |
| tedg | qense: In theory, it shouldn't. As it should start notify OSD. | 19:10 |
| qense | The line before that: "kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotify4" | 19:10 |
| tedg | Hmm, we might need to ask agateau about this one. I'm not sure what's going on there. | 19:10 |
| tedg | He's unfortunately off this week. | 19:10 |
| qense | tedg: The AppInd equivalent for KDE is called KDE StatusNotifier? | 19:11 |
| tedg | qense: That's the API... I'm not sure how it all connects together. I think that it might all be in Plasma | 19:12 |
| tedg | I think that Plasma does all the display. | 19:12 |
| qense | but KNotify is the just for the notification bubbles? | 19:12 |
| qense | Everything's Plasma in KDE. | 19:12 |
| tedg | Yeah, so I wonder if notify-osd isn't installed? | 19:12 |
| qense | But how could notification bubbles disrupt the Application Indicators? | 19:13 |
| tedg | Not sure. My guess is that it cause Quassel to do something silly like look for the KDE implementation, which is causing a bug in AppIndicators. | 19:14 |
| tedg | It's basically sending something we don't understand and error out. | 19:14 |
| tedg | (which, of course, is an error -- even if it's a hard to reproduce one) | 19:15 |
| qense | tedg: We'll ask agateau once he shows up again. | 19:17 |
| tedg | qense: We're sprinting next week, so ping me and I'll throw something at him :) | 19:18 |
| qense | will do! | 19:18 |
| Omega | Activity! | 19:59 |
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| Nafai | So a indicator design question | 21:25 |
| Nafai | I want to write something that uses the messaging indicator, but it's a little unorthodox, and I was wondering the opinion | 21:25 |
| Nafai | I want to write a little application that will randomly display affirmations or whatever (able to be set by the user) | 21:25 |
| Nafai | I've done this in the past, with windows popping up reminding me of things like "Remember, take a break, stretch, and get a drink of water" or stuff like that | 21:26 |
| Nafai | but I don't want it to be so intrusive | 21:26 |
| Nafai | so an indicator would fit, but a new indicator seems like a waste of space | 21:26 |
| Nafai | so I thought it would fit in the messaging, but it's not really a message from another person the way the others (email, IM, twitter, etc) are | 21:27 |
| Nafai | would that be too weird? | 21:27 |
| Nafai | (personal project, btw) | 21:27 |
| DanRabbit_ | Nafai: I would think it would be better to just do a nice notify-send and leave it at that | 22:06 |
| DanRabbit_ | I don't know that it would be necessary to take up space in the panel for this or that would ever want to read these more than in passing. | 22:07 |
| Nafai | hrm | 22:07 |
| Nafai | good point | 22:07 |
| DanRabbit_ | just my personal opinion though ;) | 22:07 |
| Nafai | hey, that's why I asked :) | 22:07 |
| Omega | But, if it's a personal project, I don't see why you shouldn't. | 22:08 |
| * hyperair thinks we should have added a padding for all notification area icons and panel applets as well to make them more consistent with app indicators | 23:21 | |
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