| oxymoron | Hi guys and girls, I wondering how do I call on Kickoff and/or Lancelot within Dbus or any similar protocol? | 00:23 |
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| Riddell | oxymoron: qdbus org.kde.plasma-desktop /kickoff | 00:30 |
| oxymoron | Riddell: Thanks, do you know how to hide as well? :) | 00:35 |
| oxymoron | and maybe how it works for Lancelot? | 00:35 |
| Riddell | no idea | 00:36 |
| oxymoron | Riddell: Alright and one more thing, does that dbus command require plasma? | 00:37 |
| Riddell | well yes, since kickoff is part of plasma | 00:38 |
| oxymoron | Riddell: Does it work as a plasmoid? The reason I wonder is that I am trying to explain how it works for Cairo dock devs so they can implement app launchers in Cairo Dock :P | 00:39 |
| Riddell | yes it's a plasmoid | 00:39 |
| oxymoron | Riddell: Alright and then how do you change the x and y position where the plasmoid should be show when calling dbus command for Kickoff? :) | 00:41 |
| Riddell | oxymoron: I don't think you can | 00:42 |
| Riddell | oxymoron: you can use javascript as an init or upgrade script if you want to do that | 00:43 |
| oxymoron | Riddell: Its possible for Lancelot like doing like this: "qdbus org.kde.lancelot /MainApplication org.kde.lancelot.App.show 10 150" | 00:45 |
| oxymoron | x=10 and Y=150 | 00:45 |
| oxymoron | http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79931 | 00:47 |
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| nixternal | Great job everyone on Lucid, you all did a smashing job. Thus far feedback and comments are looking promising | 04:35 |
| claydoh | nixternal: I concur, it is early still but kubuntuforums is pretty quiet atm :) | 04:40 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: Did you get a chance to test the final powerpc ISOs? | 05:45 |
| ScottK | Nice. Strigi decides to update it's index while I'm runnng a data analysis script on a 1.2GB data file. Perfect time to suck up an entire CPU. | 06:27 |
| persia | It's trying to save battery time by not using your CPU when your machine is otherwise idle :) | 06:28 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:31 |
| ScottK | It is somewhat interesting that this processing script was I/O bound on my last laptop that had a 5400 rpm hard drive and a two year old CPU, but is CPU bound on the new machine that has an SSD. | 06:34 |
| persia | So the limitation is more about the hardware than the coding style? | 06:36 |
| ScottK | Yes. Same code. | 06:41 |
| persia | Nice work :) | 06:41 |
| Daskreech | nixternal: ping | 06:51 |
| nixternal | Daskreech: pong | 07:09 |
| jussi | !grub | 07:29 |
| ubottu | grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. | 07:29 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: will try, though having family party today | 09:29 |
| oxymoron | If I dont activate proprietary nvidia driver then I cannot activate desktop effects and use OpenGL for Cairo Dock (Required for transparency), but IF I do then plymouth resolution of logo and everything is going blurry and noisy, that didnt happen before when nouveau took care of my resolution and all. Why does this happen? :S | 09:29 |
| oxymoron | Tm_T: ? :$ | 09:32 |
| oxymoron | This is weird, if I enable XRender instead of OpenGL everything works. But with OpenGL in system settings => desktop => advanced I cannot enable composite xD | 09:46 |
| Tm_T | errr, | 09:47 |
| Tm_T | err, how plymouth can be disabled? I'm bit lost | 09:48 |
| oxymoron | Tm_T: No, I dont want to disable plymouth. | 09:50 |
| Tm_T | oxymoron: I do | 09:51 |
| oxymoron | Tm_T: Aha okay :P | 09:51 |
| oxymoron | Tm_T: I dont know what happens if you just uninstall the packages, but if not you can change kernel settings to disable usplash or whatever it calls. | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | oxymoron: ye, got it now, plymouth package cannot be removed, it's part of whole boot process too tightly | 10:06 |
| Tm_T | lovely, so now that I disabled plymouth splash, I cannot see at all what fsck does, nor cannot still cancel it | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | sillyness | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | oh well... | 10:12 |
| Riddell | time to start maverick? :) | 10:32 |
| Riddell | oh no, 4.4.3 time | 10:46 |
| Tm_T | fun boot issues in u-devel | 10:46 |
| Riddell | archive servers seem to be running slowly for some reason today | 11:10 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger, JontheEchidna, nixternal, seele bloggers of kubuntu go forth and big up 10.04 LTS! | 11:57 |
| * apachelogger was trying to fly with a skateboard like spyro the dragon, but crashed and got the ouchy now :'( | 12:19 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: cool | 12:19 |
| * Riddell wraps apachelogger up in bandages | 12:20 | |
| apachelogger | http://imagebin.ca/view/htvnUTp.html | 12:21 |
| apachelogger | doesnt look that awful, but hurts like a monster :( | 12:22 |
| * Riddell scared to look | 12:25 | |
| apachelogger | hehe | 12:27 |
| Riddell | bit of Savlon, big sticking plaster and a nice hot chocolate you'll be as good as new | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | if only I had such fancy stuff, usually I avoid almost killing myself ;) | 12:32 |
| * apachelogger could go out for ice cream though | 12:32 | |
| apachelogger | kubotu: weather graz, austria | 12:32 |
| kubotu | Weather info for Graz, Austria (updated on 1:20 PM CEST on April 30, 2010); Temperature: 81 F / 27 C; Humidity: 26%; Dew Point: 43 F / 6 C; Wind: SSW at 4 mph / 6 km/h; Pressure: 29.89 in / 1012 hPa (Steady); Conditions: Clear; Yesterday's Heating Degree Days: 7 approx.; Sunrise: 5:44 AM CEST; Sunset: 8:07 PM CEST; Moon Rise: 10:55 PM CEST; Moon Set: 6:24 AM CEST; Moon Phase: Waning Gibbous | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | there, insanely hot | 12:33 |
| nookie^ | apachelogger: u're from graz? i will come there to see that town in 2 months =) | 12:34 |
| * apachelogger never understood why tourists would come to graz ;) | 12:35 | |
| apachelogger | nookie^: make sure to give me a poke, we can grab ice cream or something :) | 12:35 |
| nookie^ | apachelogger: sure! it's a deal :) | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: btw, did you try increasing the akonadi startup timeout? | 12:41 |
| Riddell | oh jings I started that but didn't finish | 12:41 |
| Riddell | only had a netbook and it takes a long time to compile | 12:41 |
| Riddell | let me try again | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | Good work on the release page :D | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | so when do we start on maverick? | 12:51 |
| Riddell | 4.4.3 first | 12:52 |
| Riddell | although I'm working on kdevelop now | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 12:54 |
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| ghostcube | small fun | 13:55 |
| ghostcube | http://www.isnichwahr.de/r93669906-smart-phone-domino.html | 13:55 |
| rgreening | !ninjas | 14:02 |
| ubottu | Help! apachelogger, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, Lex79, Quintasan, neversfelde, maco, rgreening | 14:02 |
| rgreening | KDE 4.4.3 needs packaging | 14:02 |
| rgreening | :) | 14:02 |
| Riddell | ~ninjas | 14:03 |
| kubotu | apachelogger, JontheEchidna, Lex79, neversfelde, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, nixternal and Quintasan ... to the Batcave! | 14:03 |
| Riddell | rgreening: want to do the honours and clean up https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging ? | 14:04 |
| * Riddell uploads kdevelop 4.0.0 to ppa backports | 14:06 | |
| Riddell | am tempted to upload to real backports too | 14:06 |
| * ScottK is travelling today, so won't be much help on packaging. | 14:08 | |
| JontheEchidna | The way I see it, new packages in -backports can't hurt anything | 14:08 |
| ScottK | Absolutely. | 14:09 |
| Riddell | I shall make it sew | 14:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: For kdevelop I think waiving the "must be in the development release first" rule is reasonable. | 14:11 |
| JontheEchidna | Do we have anything in the specs regarding standalone QtWebKit ? | 14:19 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: we have a qt packaging review spec for our special guest stars Thiago and Jorgen from Qt | 14:20 |
| JontheEchidna | ooh, celebs at UDS | 14:21 |
| ScottK | Riddell: We should probably try to get fabo to particpate remotely in that one. | 14:21 |
| JontheEchidna | batcave wiki cleared out | 14:23 |
| seele | are the upgrade serves bogged down? i've failed getting packages for upgrade twice now :( | 14:25 |
| Riddell | quite probable | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | Not uncommon for the few days after release. You might be able to find a mirror that isn't too shabby. | 14:26 |
| JontheEchidna | In fact, I believe the "select best server" feature in the software sources editor works this release, thanks to amichair :) | 14:27 |
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| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what does "Upload to kubuntu-s with ~ppa1 " mean? | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | oops, that's a result of overaggressive text replacement in kate ;) | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | should be kubuntu-ninjas | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | and I'd edit it, but the wiki is being slow | 14:28 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I don't think we want to package it for karmic, so I'd remove that section | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | though we don't really have anything to do for maverick yet, so it'd wouldn't be in the way | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | but I do suppose we want people to upgrade to 10.04 LTS ;-) | 14:30 |
| Riddell | or call it "optional" | 14:30 |
| JontheEchidna | sounds good | 14:30 |
| JontheEchidna | My dad's office has pretty good pipes: 525.7KB/s | 14:34 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: just what our torrents need | 14:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger, Nightrose: who's Robert Frießleben and do I want to be his friend? | 15:20 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: kubuntu.de guy iirc | 15:21 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: how about David Watson ? | 15:23 |
| Riddell | no wrong one | 15:23 |
| Nightrose | don't think i've heard of him | 15:23 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: how about Leonardo Finetti ? | 15:23 |
| Nightrose | kde bugs guy | 15:23 |
| Nightrose | finex is his nick | 15:23 |
| Nightrose | not seen him around lately though | 15:23 |
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| kieren | Hey, I've installed Kubuntu 10.04 and it seems that QGraphicsScenes no longer work in QT/C++ | 16:08 |
| kieren | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/G2UcS8u0 | 16:09 |
| kieren | There is some code | 16:09 |
| kieren | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/6if9d77b | 16:10 |
| kieren | That's the error message | 16:10 |
| JontheEchidna | That error message is unrelated to your problems, and should be fairly harmless. | 16:12 |
| kieren | The QGraphicsScene is created but the error message wasn't there in Kubuntu 09.10 | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | basically it's looking for the ibus input method (used to insert characters of other languges) but isn't finding it since you presumably don't have a need for ibus | 16:13 |
| kieren | Okay, thanks | 16:17 |
| JontheEchidna | a bit annoying that it has to give that message, but should be harmless otherwise | 16:18 |
| kieren | Yeah, if I install ibus-daemon and run it the error message doesn't appear | 16:19 |
| Riddell | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdereview/bluedevil/ new KDE bluetooth bits | 16:40 |
| JontheEchidna | neat | 16:41 |
| JontheEchidna | lots of cool things are cooking in kde playground | 16:42 |
| JontheEchidna | print-manager, libqapt and now bluedevil | 16:42 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I was going to wait on the blog post originally, try to get it so we have at least 1 Kubuntu release post on the planet, but I was just thinking, if we flood the planet, ooh that would be fun :) | 16:58 |
| nixternal | I will work up a post today on it, that way there I get it on p.u.c and pk.o | 16:58 |
| * JontheEchidna goes off camping for the weekend | 17:02 | |
| nixternal | was gonna tell him to have fun...camping sounds fun | 17:02 |
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| rgreening | I luv working on Kubuntu... we get a new Lucid followed by an immediate upgrade for KDE :) haha | 18:04 |
| rgreening | and this time we should be able to put in proper updates archive and not use PPA's! | 18:05 |
| * rgreening assumes | 18:05 | |
| * rgreening thinks Riddell needs to remember to update bzr :) | 18:17 | |
| * rgreening pokes him | 18:17 | |
| rgreening | :) | 18:17 |
| rgreening | Riddell: do you have an uncommitted bzr for kdebase-workspace sitting on your system? Seems version 14 was pushed but not in bzr | 18:18 |
| nixternal | is it me, or is the 'kubuntu 10.04 lts...is here!' image on the homepage look really blurry? | 18:25 |
| rgreening | nixternal: it's got a shadowed/fuzzy edge for sure. | 18:30 |
| rgreening | nixternal: almost like the ink is bleeding through paper | 18:31 |
| nixternal | yeah, i can't look at it for long, my eyes start to cross :) | 18:33 |
| rgreening | maybe its in Real3D, and you need the glasses nixternal. | 18:35 |
| oxymoron | Could someone explain to me why I got error message outputs in Konsole while I am using it? :S I got messages like this: "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-oxymoron" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0." and "/usr/bin/dolphin(11568)" Error in thread 139996565296912 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" | 18:41 |
| nixternal | i have those glasses too...my dad was at NAB 2 weeks ago and brought back a few pair | 18:41 |
| nixternal | oxymoron: did you fire off an app from within konsole? | 18:42 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Nope | 18:42 |
| nixternal | hrmm...you just started konsole from the menu or alt+f2 and it does that? | 18:43 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Yes :S | 18:43 |
| nixternal | wow, that is a weird deal... | 18:43 |
| * nixternal fires up konsole | 18:43 | |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Its really annoying because it just output a lot of text randomly while I am using the terminal myself :S | 18:43 |
| nixternal | I use Yakuake all of the time, which is just Konsole, but a quake style terminal emulator version of it | 18:44 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Another weird and freaking weird thing is that not even apache2 works with permissions anymore. It seems all permissions got **************** up when changed /home to another partition :S | 18:44 |
| nixternal | does it happen every time? does it happen when you first start it up, or do you have to use it for a while | 18:44 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: It happens randomly | 18:44 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 18:45 |
| oxymoron | # /home was on /dev/sda2 during installation | 18:45 |
| oxymoron | UUID=ec515c21-a2be-4823-b861-1149f086a13f /home ext4 defaults 0 2 | 18:45 |
| oxymoron | Thats from fstab, is it correct? | 18:45 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: I must say I really hate permissions in Linux because they NEVER work as I want them. | 18:46 |
| nixternal | ok then...the odd thing is the whole thing about dolphin...but if you are doing something, and say something is triggered in your ~/.bashrc and it isn't able to execute it and has an error, it does let you know, and in this case it is definitely file permission issue..which I guess you say might have happened when changing /home to another partition...as for the dolphin and nepomuk messages..i have no clue why those would be in there | 18:46 |
| nixternal | UUID=cb114d5f-7db3-4064-b2a9-020423d37bc6 /home ext4 defaults 0 2 | 18:47 |
| nixternal | yeah, looks like mine too | 18:47 |
| oxymoron | alright, goodie then its not anything with fstab or so. | 18:47 |
| oxymoron | And yes perimission issue thats for sure. | 18:47 |
| nixternal | hwo did you go about moving /home to another partition? | 18:48 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: I choosed /home with a clean isntall of Kubuntu 10.04, so didnt move it. | 18:48 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Something with groups or user permissions error, what permissions should / home have? | 18:49 |
| nixternal | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2010-03-10 13:44 home | 18:50 |
| oxymoron | ---- /home is owned by me apparently, but hsouldnt it be userID 0 (root user)? :P | 18:50 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Alright, how do I change /home to root:root? | 18:50 |
| neversfelde | do we package 4.4.3 in bzr? | 18:50 |
| nixternal | drwx------ 71 nixternal nixternal 12288 2010-04-30 12:50 nixternal | 18:50 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: What command to check that btw? | 18:51 |
| nixternal | ls -l / | 18:51 |
| nixternal | for home | 18:51 |
| nixternal | and | 18:51 |
| nixternal | ls -l /home/ | 18:51 |
| nixternal | to see for your user directory | 18:51 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Hmm: "drwxr-xr-x 5 oxymoron oxymoron 4096 2010-04-29 22:19 home" | 18:51 |
| oxymoron | drwx------ 37 oxymoron oxymoron 12288 2010-04-30 19:10 oxymoron | 18:51 |
| nixternal | ls -l /tmp | 18:52 |
| nixternal | drwx------ 10 nixternal nixternal 4096 2010-04-30 02:33 kdecache-nixternal | 18:52 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: I am not sure but I think I might changed group for /home folder to myself before, but how to change back? :P | 18:52 |
| nixternal | chown root:root /home | 18:53 |
| nixternal | sudo chown root:root /home | 18:53 |
| nixternal | can't forget that sudo :) | 18:53 |
| oxymoron | Hehe i forgot it to when doing the command xD | 18:53 |
| nixternal | though, I don't think that is all that important, but I am not 110% positive on that...when you create users anyways, you use elevated priviledges, so it doesn't matter, I would think, who owns /home | 18:53 |
| nixternal | is kdecache-oxymoron owned by you in /tmp? | 18:54 |
| oxymoron | drwx------ 9 oxymoron oxymoron 4096 2010-04-30 19:55 kdecache-oxymoron | 18:55 |
| oxymoron | and in /var/tmp I presume :P | 18:56 |
| nixternal | err | 18:56 |
| nixternal | yeah, my mistake there | 18:56 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: This is freaking annoying, whats left to try? :S | 18:56 |
| nixternal | dunno, you might want to hop into either #kubuntu or #ubuntu...i think you might get better answers from someone in #ubuntu though concerning the file permission stuff...i haven't done much sys admin stuff in more than 10 years, so without googling left and right, i feel i am a bit useless here | 18:58 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: They never answer in #kubuntu anyway :P But I think I have correct permissions now, but still doesnt work :S | 18:59 |
| nixternal | type this in konsole | 19:00 |
| nixternal | id | 19:00 |
| nixternal | what does it say? | 19:00 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: "uid=1000(oxymoron) gid=1000(oxymoron) grupper=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),105(lpadmin),115(admin),116(sambashare),1000(oxymoron)" | 19:01 |
| nixternal | ok, that is correct | 19:01 |
| nixternal | you aren't starting konsole like: | 19:01 |
| nixternal | sudo konsole | 19:01 |
| nixternal | are you? | 19:01 |
| oxymoron | nixternal: Nope | 19:01 |
| nixternal | or: sudo dolphin | 19:01 |
| oxymoron | sudo dolphin one time earlier. | 19:01 |
| nixternal | muhahaha | 19:02 |
| nixternal | don't use sudo with GUI apps | 19:02 |
| nixternal | use kdesudo | 19:02 |
| oxymoron | why so? :P | 19:02 |
| nixternal | I don't know the entire reasoning behind it, but i know that is how it is supposed to be | 19:03 |
| oxymoron | Hmm nobody answer in ubuntu either, its pure anarchy chaos in there :D | 19:03 |
| oxymoron | I try to reboot computer, helps sometimes in hard times .D | 19:04 |
| * oxymoron is brb | 19:04 | |
| maco | nixternal: why is because of things like your .kde getting screwed up permissions if you use sudo but not if you use kdesudo | 19:23 |
| nixternal | maco: don't know the answer to that 100%...I don't ever fire off apps with kdesudo...i used to know back in the dapper days when we were dealing with kdesudo vs. kdesu | 19:39 |
| rgreening | kdesudo can set proper env vars that sudo does not export. | 20:00 |
| rgreening | without the export, you get screwed up files/permissions in your home dir | 20:01 |
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| maco | nixternal: i was giving you the "why" :P i wasnt asking a question | 20:38 |
| maco | nixternal: cuz you said you didnt know why kdesudo was better | 20:38 |
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| neversfelde | rgreening_: kdebase-workspace failed to build | 21:09 |
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| neversfelde | rgreening_: sorry, was a bit confused, no problem there :) | 22:02 |
| * neversfelde just realized that there is a difference between kdepimlibs and kdepim-runtime | 22:06 | |
| neversfelde | not my day, it seems | 22:06 |
| neversfelde | rgreening_: now it really failed :) | 23:52 |
| * neversfelde is a visionary | 23:53 | |
| yuriy | ooh it's out | 23:55 |
| yuriy | congratulations everyone | 23:55 |
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