| wolfant | hi? | 02:37 |
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| persia | hey | 02:37 |
| wolfant | someone has installed 10.4 on an n900? | 02:39 |
| persia | I heard a bunch of folks announce they were going to do that. I've not heard thay anyone did. It *should* work, as long as you use Nokia's kernel, but no guarantees. | 02:40 |
| wolfant | I'll try and see what happens | 02:42 |
| persia | Good lcuk! | 02:43 |
| wolfant | thanks | 02:44 |
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| orbarron|nb | not sure if you anyone can help... but is there a way to switch from ubuntu to UNR easy? I would also like to switch back to ubuntu as well... | 06:47 |
| persia | Different environments should be selectable as different sessions in the session manager. | 06:49 |
| persia | If they aren't, you may want to install more packages: for example, install "ubuntu-desktop" to get a desktop. | 06:49 |
| orbarron|nb | ahh found it.. thanks | 06:56 |
| Amit_Karpe | When will lucid-armel-omap will released ?? | 07:18 |
| persia | about 12 hours ago. | 07:19 |
| persia | But it's not an official release, just frozen snapshot images. | 07:19 |
| * persia hunts a URL | 07:19 | |
| persia | Which flavour did you want? | 07:20 |
| Amit_Karpe | Are you talking about this URL ?? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/ | 07:21 |
| Amit_Karpe | I want to test all :) | 07:21 |
| Amit_Karpe | u* or k* -- netbook | 07:21 |
| persia | Hrm. Seems the images didn't get copied. | 07:21 |
| Amit_Karpe | Given site is down saying --> "The connection was reset" | 07:22 |
| persia | I suspect they need test reports and prompting of someone. You can grab the "prerelease" images at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/lucid-netbook-armel+omap.img or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/lucid-netbook-armel+omap.img | 07:23 |
| persia | Yeah, the server is *swamped* with people downloading it. | 07:23 |
| persia | Well, that and all the other images that are on cdimage instead of releases.ubuntu.com | 07:24 |
| persia | It should work if you're patient. Alternately, wait a couple days for the excitement to calm down (although that's not as much fun) | 07:24 |
| ogra | persia, ports werent published yet | 07:24 |
| persia | ogra: Why not? | 07:24 |
| ogra | should happen soon | 07:24 |
| persia | ogra: imx51/dove netbook was published. | 07:25 |
| persia | http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ | 07:25 |
| ogra | yes, they are on releases.u.c | 07:25 |
| ogra | everything that stays on cdimage.u.c wasnt published under thge release directories | 07:26 |
| persia | Aha! And now it all makes sense. | 07:26 |
| persia | Amit_Karpe: My apologies: instead of "About 12 hours ago", I should have said "Real Soon Now". | 07:27 |
| persia | Note that there is no specific time involved in "Real Soon Now", but it oughtn't be that long. | 07:27 |
| persia | (mostly a matter of copying files to the right places at this point, I believe) | 07:27 |
| suihkulokki | boohoo, LP #446552 was not fixed in lucid | 07:29 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 446552 in update-manager (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 3 other projects) "url_downloadable ignores proxy settings (affects: 24) (dups: 2) (heat: 138)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446552 | 07:29 |
| persia | It wasn't? It says it was. | 07:31 |
| Amit_Karpe | persia: Thank You. Lets wait till "Real Soon Now". | 07:32 |
| persia | Amit_Karpe: If you like. I'm absolutely sure the images will be bit-identical when someone gets around to copying them. | 07:32 |
| suihkulokki | persia: I still see it contacting without talking to the proxy and the buggy code is using httplib is still there | 07:32 |
| persia | suihkulokki: Please reopen the lucid task on the bug with documentation of your results. It shouldn't do that. | 07:32 |
| Amit_Karpe | As of now I am playing with Prebuil Lucid image. I am able to run that on BB. | 07:35 |
| Amit_Karpe | And I am going to install netbook-launcher. | 07:35 |
| ogra | install netbook-launcher-efl rather :) | 07:36 |
| Amit_Karpe | I had completed installation | 07:36 |
| persia | If you already have an image, you can upgrade to final with `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` | 07:36 |
| Amit_Karpe | ok | 07:36 |
| Amit_Karpe | great. | 07:36 |
| persia | No point downloading *another* image and doing the installation again. | 07:37 |
| ogra | or do-release-upgrade :) | 07:37 |
| persia | ogra: Does that work from milestone to final? | 07:37 |
| Amit_Karpe | Let me try netbook-launcher and then I will update you my results | 07:37 |
| ogra | should | 07:37 |
| * persia has only done do-release-upgrade to get from one release to the next | 07:37 | |
| Amit_Karpe | netbook-launcher required any gdm or lxdm ?? | 07:41 |
| ogra | yes | 07:42 |
| ogra | also dont install netbook-launcher you want netbook-launcher-efl | 07:42 |
| Amit_Karpe | ok | 07:42 |
| Amit_Karpe | then now should remove netbook-launcher and install netbook-launcher-efl ?? | 07:43 |
| Amit_Karpe | while running netbook-launcher I got this error --> http://pastebin.com/ZgjbWzJR | 07:43 |
| ogra | cannot open display means you have no X running | 07:45 |
| ogra | install gdm first | 07:45 |
| Amit_Karpe | ok | 07:45 |
| Amit_Karpe | ogra: Should I install lxdm instead of gdm ? I think lxdm is very light ? | 07:52 |
| ogra | no idea, i have never used lxdm | 07:52 |
| ogra | you surely could though | 07:53 |
| Amit_Karpe | or xdm ? | 07:53 |
| Amit_Karpe | ok | 07:53 |
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| hrw | morning | 08:31 |
| slips | hi | 09:32 |
| slips | anyone tried building a lucid rootfs in rootstock and succeeded booting it in qemu? | 09:33 |
| slips | I keep getting an error during boot saying "ureadahead main process (275) terminated with status 5", then the screen goes black after a few seconds. | 09:36 |
| slips | I think plymouth has something to do with it... | 09:36 |
| hrw | let me fetch proper kernel | 09:36 |
| hrw | booting | 09:38 |
| ogra_cmpc | slips, status 5 is fine it just tells you it wont profile your disk | 09:39 |
| slips | hmm | 09:42 |
| slips | ok, then ureadahead is not part of the problem. | 09:42 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 09:42 |
| ogra_cmpc | do you use any console= option on your cmdline ? | 09:43 |
| slips | i've tried a few. tty0, ttyAMA0,baud etc. | 09:43 |
| ogra_cmpc | that will make plymouth switch off the splash | 09:43 |
| ogra_cmpc | might cause the black screen you get | 09:44 |
| slips | ah | 09:45 |
| lool | morning hrw | 09:45 |
| lool | well morning all :) | 09:45 |
| ogra_cmpc | morning lool | 09:46 |
| slips | so it might not be plymouth either.. | 09:48 |
| slips | strange this is that after the screen turns black, there's never any more output | 09:49 |
| slips | however, if I boot into runlevel 1, i get the console | 09:49 |
| DanaG | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyol_wine | 09:52 |
| DanaG | er | 09:52 |
| DanaG | wrong tab | 09:52 |
| DanaG | sorry, off-topic for here. | 09:52 |
| hrw | slips: black console here too | 09:58 |
| hrw | booting with console on stdio | 09:59 |
| hrw | with "console=ttyAMA0" and "-serial stdio" it boots properly to text console (my image does not have x11) | 10:01 |
| slips | nice | 10:04 |
| slips | that actually worked. | 10:04 |
| slips | thanks | 10:05 |
| hrw | add "quiet" instead | 10:06 |
| hrw | should also make plymouth happy | 10:06 |
| slips | i'll try | 10:06 |
| slips | worked like a charm. | 10:10 |
| hrw | cool | 10:11 |
| siji | mike^ u there | 10:13 |
| dmart | lool: hi there | 10:28 |
| dmart | asac: hi | 10:31 |
| dmart | apw: lool suggested to me that you know something about the packaging of the userspace perf tools--- do you have a moment to look at a blueprint draft? | 10:35 |
| lool | hey Dave | 10:38 |
| dmart | lool: hi, I thought everyone must be hung over / having a lie in / travelling ;) | 10:38 |
| asac | hi dmart | 10:38 |
| amitk | dmart: its back to work on maverick :) | 10:39 |
| * dmart seems to have woken everyone up | 10:39 | |
| asac | right. thats the pace of ubuntu ;) ... no rest | 10:39 |
| * amitk is taking next week off | 10:39 | |
| asac | lagger :-P | 10:40 |
| dmart | lool: Will had an initial stab at the profiling blueprint--- mind taking a look? | 10:40 |
| dmart | (Will = wildea01) | 10:40 |
| wildea01 | hello | 10:40 |
| lool | dmart: sure | 10:46 |
| dmart | It would be good if someone from your end can add comments on the tool packaging and profiling frontends currently in use, would apw be the right person? | 10:47 |
| apw | dmart, i've packaged the kernel perf tool as its kernel version locked | 10:47 |
| lool | wildea01: heya | 10:47 |
| wildea01 | lool: hi | 10:48 |
| wildea01 | apw: currently it's only packaged for x86/amd64 afaict | 10:48 |
| lool | apw: So dmart is looking in what would need to happen to have it on armel as well I guess | 10:48 |
| apw | its not packages for armel cause its not supported on arm | 10:48 |
| apw | iirc | 10:48 |
| lool | apw: Also, there might be some kernel patches needed to get it working there | 10:48 |
| lool | yeah | 10:48 |
| wildea01 | the patches are in 2.6.33 I think | 10:49 |
| apw | so likely we can enable it for M then | 10:49 |
| dmart | that's what the blueprint is about :) | 10:50 |
| dmart | apw: would you mind having a quick look at the current draft to see if there's anything you would add? | 10:50 |
| apw | url ? | 10:50 |
| wildea01 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/M/ARMDebuggingWithOprofileAndPerf | 10:51 |
| wildea01 | I only just wrote it, so feel free to change it :) | 10:51 |
| lool | apw: Is the change to packaging a 2 minutes job that we just need to ping you about, or will you want patches? | 10:53 |
| apw | if this is already enableable in 2.6.34 then its a bit flip pretty much | 10:54 |
| apw | wildea01, the spec looks fine for a draft, i suspect the kernel work is a slam dunk but best to list it in case it isn't | 10:56 |
| wildea01 | apw: okey doke, thanks | 10:57 |
| dmart | lool, apw: are there frontend tools in place for perf yet? | 10:59 |
| lool | dmart: You mean graphical? | 10:59 |
| lool | dmart: there are commandline frontends | 10:59 |
| lool | the perf command in the perf-`uname -r` packages | 10:59 |
| lool | well the linux-tools-xxx rather | 10:59 |
| dmart | If there were gui frontends already available for other arches, we would want to ensure arm has them too | 10:59 |
| wildea01 | lool: the only visual one I could see is perf timechart, and I didn't quite understand what I was looking at :) | 11:00 |
| apw | lool, right in linux-tools | 11:00 |
| Amit_Karpe | ogra, persia : Thanks a lot you help. Please check snap of my running netbook-launcher-elf http://amitkarpe.posterous.com/ and video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdetzHGEcc | 11:01 |
| lool | wildea01: The spec looks ok, but keep the summary to a couple of sentences describing the goal e.g. "Providing perf and oprofile support for ARM"; move the list of work items to the Implementation section | 11:01 |
| lool | wildea01: But that's already more than you need for UDS, looks good! | 11:01 |
| wildea01 | lool: thanks, I'll shift some of the summary down to the implementation | 11:02 |
| dmart | lool, apw, wildea01: ok, sounds like we have a blueprint. Thanks for the help, guys | 11:03 |
| ogra_cmpc | Amit_Karpe, the images were moved, i updated the link on the wiki a while ago | 11:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | (and renames to the proper release names) | 11:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | *renamed | 11:11 |
| Amit_Karpe | thx. | 11:11 |
| Amit_Karpe | Should do it again or just `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` ? | 11:12 |
| Amit_Karpe | or or do-release-upgrade ?? | 11:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | i meant that your blog entry points to the daily images | 11:13 |
| Amit_Karpe | k | 11:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | your system should be up to date :) | 11:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | the netbook image is now at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ | 11:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | called buntu-10.04-netbook-armel+omap.img | 11:14 |
| Amit_Karpe | ok, I will update it. | 11:14 |
| * ogra_cmpc sighs | 12:07 | |
| ogra_cmpc | netbook-launcher-efl pulls in half of gnome | 12:08 |
| * ogra_cmpc doesnt get why | 12:08 | |
| ogra_cmpc | oh, silly recommends | 12:13 |
| langabe | Hi, trying to launch a rootstock built karmic rootfs with ubuntu-desktop seed but init stops with -- udevd[570]: failed to create queue file: No space left on device --, any ideas? | 14:21 |
| ogra | did you pick a proper imagesize in the options ? | 14:26 |
| ogra | oh, to slow :P | 14:26 |
| apw | ogra, yo ... does lsusb work on your arm platforms | 15:46 |
| hrw | apw: why it should not? | 15:56 |
| apw | have a machine here where it is not, but i think we have it nailed | 15:57 |
| hrw | works for me on beagleboard | 15:59 |
| hrw | worked for me on many other arm devices too | 16:00 |
| ogra | apw, usually works | 16:05 |
| ogra | asac, so my minimal system running X, fbpanel, metacity, xterm and efl launcher consumes 27MB according to htop | 16:07 |
| ogra | though its indeed very limited in functionality | 16:07 |
| amitk | ogra: on beagle? | 16:09 |
| ogra | yes | 16:09 |
| amitk | nice, I would be interested in that as dev environ. Do you have a seed? | 16:10 |
| ogra | i started off bootstrapping a minbase chroot and then only installed very few bits | 16:10 |
| ogra | no, but i can roll a tarball over the weekend | 16:10 |
| ogra | there is a ton of stuff thats still broken i surely miss a lot of bits | 16:11 |
| ogra | the complete system uses only 515M on disk currently | 16:12 |
| ogra | so i should be able to tar that to 2-300 | 16:12 |
| amitk | ogra: just a package list would be great on the minimal chroot | 16:15 |
| amitk | no pressure though, after UDS is just fine :) | 16:16 |
| ogra | oh, right, you are gone next week anyway :) | 16:16 |
| ogra | i'll have something for you by uds for sure ... | 16:16 |
| hrw | ~curse loop device | 16:26 |
| ogra | ? | 16:29 |
| hrw | I got out of loop devices again | 16:31 |
| hrw | vm-builder uses loop devices and if it break then I need to umount that by hand | 16:32 |
| ogra | hrw, help me inplement my spec then :) | 16:32 |
| ogra | yeah | 16:32 |
| hrw | ogra: url to it? | 16:32 |
| ogra | <-- not a big fan of the bloated vm-builder | 16:32 |
| ogra | hrw, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm/+spec/userspace-loop-mounting | 16:32 |
| hrw | ogra: fuse do not have isofs? | 16:33 |
| ogra | my initial goal was to hev rootstock not require root | 16:33 |
| ogra | fuse might have iso but nothing for loop | 16:33 |
| ogra | i want to be able to loop mount in my homedir without sudo/root | 16:34 |
| ogra | and even preferably without using a loop device :) | 16:34 |
| ogra | (not sure thats possible but i didnt start researching yet) | 16:34 |
| ogra | nbd could once do that, if you had started the nbd-server as a user you could mount an image as the same user | 16:35 |
| ogra | but sadly since it got deeper integrated in the kernel it has the same constraints as loop mounting | 16:35 |
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