[02:37] hi? [02:37] hey [02:39] someone has installed 10.4 on an n900? [02:40] I heard a bunch of folks announce they were going to do that. I've not heard thay anyone did. It *should* work, as long as you use Nokia's kernel, but no guarantees. [02:42] I'll try and see what happens [02:43] Good lcuk! [02:44] thanks === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [06:47] not sure if you anyone can help... but is there a way to switch from ubuntu to UNR easy? I would also like to switch back to ubuntu as well... [06:49] Different environments should be selectable as different sessions in the session manager. [06:49] If they aren't, you may want to install more packages: for example, install "ubuntu-desktop" to get a desktop. [06:56] ahh found it.. thanks [07:18] When will lucid-armel-omap will released ?? [07:19] about 12 hours ago. [07:19] But it's not an official release, just frozen snapshot images. [07:19] * persia hunts a URL [07:20] Which flavour did you want? [07:21] Are you talking about this URL ?? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/ [07:21] I want to test all :) [07:21] u* or k* -- netbook [07:21] Hrm. Seems the images didn't get copied. [07:22] Given site is down saying --> "The connection was reset" [07:23] I suspect they need test reports and prompting of someone. You can grab the "prerelease" images at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/lucid-netbook-armel+omap.img or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/lucid-netbook-armel+omap.img [07:23] Yeah, the server is *swamped* with people downloading it. [07:24] Well, that and all the other images that are on cdimage instead of releases.ubuntu.com [07:24] It should work if you're patient. Alternately, wait a couple days for the excitement to calm down (although that's not as much fun) [07:24] persia, ports werent published yet [07:24] ogra: Why not? [07:24] should happen soon [07:25] ogra: imx51/dove netbook was published. [07:25] http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ [07:25] yes, they are on releases.u.c [07:26] everything that stays on cdimage.u.c wasnt published under thge release directories [07:26] Aha! And now it all makes sense. [07:27] Amit_Karpe: My apologies: instead of "About 12 hours ago", I should have said "Real Soon Now". [07:27] Note that there is no specific time involved in "Real Soon Now", but it oughtn't be that long. [07:27] (mostly a matter of copying files to the right places at this point, I believe) [07:29] boohoo, LP #446552 was not fixed in lucid [07:29] Launchpad bug 446552 in update-manager (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 3 other projects) "url_downloadable ignores proxy settings (affects: 24) (dups: 2) (heat: 138)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446552 [07:31] It wasn't? It says it was. [07:32] persia: Thank You. Lets wait till "Real Soon Now". [07:32] Amit_Karpe: If you like. I'm absolutely sure the images will be bit-identical when someone gets around to copying them. [07:32] persia: I still see it contacting without talking to the proxy and the buggy code is using httplib is still there [07:32] suihkulokki: Please reopen the lucid task on the bug with documentation of your results. It shouldn't do that. [07:35] As of now I am playing with Prebuil Lucid image. I am able to run that on BB. [07:35] And I am going to install netbook-launcher. [07:36] install netbook-launcher-efl rather :) [07:36] I had completed installation [07:36] If you already have an image, you can upgrade to final with `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` [07:36] ok [07:36] great. [07:37] No point downloading *another* image and doing the installation again. [07:37] or do-release-upgrade :) [07:37] ogra: Does that work from milestone to final? [07:37] Let me try netbook-launcher and then I will update you my results [07:37] should [07:37] * persia has only done do-release-upgrade to get from one release to the next [07:41] netbook-launcher required any gdm or lxdm ?? [07:42] yes [07:42] also dont install netbook-launcher you want netbook-launcher-efl [07:42] ok [07:43] then now should remove netbook-launcher and install netbook-launcher-efl ?? [07:43] while running netbook-launcher I got this error --> http://pastebin.com/ZgjbWzJR [07:45] cannot open display means you have no X running [07:45] install gdm first [07:45] ok [07:52] ogra: Should I install lxdm instead of gdm ? I think lxdm is very light ? [07:52] no idea, i have never used lxdm [07:53] you surely could though [07:53] or xdm ? [07:53] ok === XorA|gone is now known as XorA === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:31] morning [09:32] hi [09:33] anyone tried building a lucid rootfs in rootstock and succeeded booting it in qemu? [09:36] I keep getting an error during boot saying "ureadahead main process (275) terminated with status 5", then the screen goes black after a few seconds. [09:36] I think plymouth has something to do with it... [09:36] let me fetch proper kernel [09:38] booting [09:39] slips, status 5 is fine it just tells you it wont profile your disk [09:42] hmm [09:42] ok, then ureadahead is not part of the problem. [09:42] right [09:43] do you use any console= option on your cmdline ? [09:43] i've tried a few. tty0, ttyAMA0,baud etc. [09:43] that will make plymouth switch off the splash [09:44] might cause the black screen you get [09:45] ah [09:45] morning hrw [09:45] well morning all :) [09:46] morning lool [09:48] so it might not be plymouth either.. [09:49] strange this is that after the screen turns black, there's never any more output [09:49] however, if I boot into runlevel 1, i get the console [09:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyol_wine [09:52] er [09:52] wrong tab [09:52] sorry, off-topic for here. [09:58] slips: black console here too [09:59] booting with console on stdio [10:01] with "console=ttyAMA0" and "-serial stdio" it boots properly to text console (my image does not have x11) [10:04] nice [10:04] that actually worked. [10:05] thanks [10:06] add "quiet" instead [10:06] should also make plymouth happy [10:06] i'll try [10:10] worked like a charm. [10:11] cool [10:13] mike^ u there [10:28] lool: hi there [10:31] asac: hi [10:35] apw: lool suggested to me that you know something about the packaging of the userspace perf tools--- do you have a moment to look at a blueprint draft? [10:38] hey Dave [10:38] lool: hi, I thought everyone must be hung over / having a lie in / travelling ;) [10:38] hi dmart [10:39] dmart: its back to work on maverick :) [10:39] * dmart seems to have woken everyone up [10:39] right. thats the pace of ubuntu ;) ... no rest [10:39] * amitk is taking next week off [10:40] lagger :-P [10:40] lool: Will had an initial stab at the profiling blueprint--- mind taking a look? [10:40] (Will = wildea01) [10:40] hello [10:46] dmart: sure [10:47] It would be good if someone from your end can add comments on the tool packaging and profiling frontends currently in use, would apw be the right person? [10:47] dmart, i've packaged the kernel perf tool as its kernel version locked [10:47] wildea01: heya [10:48] lool: hi [10:48] apw: currently it's only packaged for x86/amd64 afaict [10:48] apw: So dmart is looking in what would need to happen to have it on armel as well I guess [10:48] its not packages for armel cause its not supported on arm [10:48] iirc [10:48] apw: Also, there might be some kernel patches needed to get it working there [10:48] yeah [10:49] the patches are in 2.6.33 I think [10:49] so likely we can enable it for M then [10:50] that's what the blueprint is about :) [10:50] apw: would you mind having a quick look at the current draft to see if there's anything you would add? [10:50] url ? [10:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/M/ARMDebuggingWithOprofileAndPerf [10:51] I only just wrote it, so feel free to change it :) [10:53] apw: Is the change to packaging a 2 minutes job that we just need to ping you about, or will you want patches? [10:54] if this is already enableable in 2.6.34 then its a bit flip pretty much [10:56] wildea01, the spec looks fine for a draft, i suspect the kernel work is a slam dunk but best to list it in case it isn't [10:57] apw: okey doke, thanks [10:59] lool, apw: are there frontend tools in place for perf yet? [10:59] dmart: You mean graphical? [10:59] dmart: there are commandline frontends [10:59] the perf command in the perf-`uname -r` packages [10:59] well the linux-tools-xxx rather [10:59] If there were gui frontends already available for other arches, we would want to ensure arm has them too [11:00] lool: the only visual one I could see is perf timechart, and I didn't quite understand what I was looking at :) [11:00] lool, right in linux-tools [11:01] ogra, persia : Thanks a lot you help. Please check snap of my running netbook-launcher-elf http://amitkarpe.posterous.com/ and video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdetzHGEcc [11:01] wildea01: The spec looks ok, but keep the summary to a couple of sentences describing the goal e.g. "Providing perf and oprofile support for ARM"; move the list of work items to the Implementation section [11:01] wildea01: But that's already more than you need for UDS, looks good! [11:02] lool: thanks, I'll shift some of the summary down to the implementation [11:03] lool, apw, wildea01: ok, sounds like we have a blueprint. Thanks for the help, guys [11:10] Amit_Karpe, the images were moved, i updated the link on the wiki a while ago [11:11] (and renames to the proper release names) [11:11] *renamed [11:11] thx. [11:12] Should do it again or just `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` ? [11:13] or or do-release-upgrade ?? [11:13] i meant that your blog entry points to the daily images [11:13] k [11:13] your system should be up to date :) [11:14] the netbook image is now at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ [11:14] called buntu-10.04-netbook-armel+omap.img [11:14] ok, I will update it. [12:07] * ogra_cmpc sighs [12:08] netbook-launcher-efl pulls in half of gnome [12:08] * ogra_cmpc doesnt get why [12:13] oh, silly recommends [14:21] Hi, trying to launch a rootstock built karmic rootfs with ubuntu-desktop seed but init stops with -- udevd[570]: failed to create queue file: No space left on device --, any ideas? [14:26] did you pick a proper imagesize in the options ? [14:26] oh, to slow :P [15:46] ogra, yo ... does lsusb work on your arm platforms [15:56] apw: why it should not? [15:57] have a machine here where it is not, but i think we have it nailed [15:59] works for me on beagleboard [16:00] worked for me on many other arm devices too [16:05] apw, usually works [16:07] asac, so my minimal system running X, fbpanel, metacity, xterm and efl launcher consumes 27MB according to htop [16:07] though its indeed very limited in functionality [16:09] ogra: on beagle? [16:09] yes [16:10] nice, I would be interested in that as dev environ. Do you have a seed? [16:10] i started off bootstrapping a minbase chroot and then only installed very few bits [16:10] no, but i can roll a tarball over the weekend [16:11] there is a ton of stuff thats still broken i surely miss a lot of bits [16:12] the complete system uses only 515M on disk currently [16:12] so i should be able to tar that to 2-300 [16:15] ogra: just a package list would be great on the minimal chroot [16:16] no pressure though, after UDS is just fine :) [16:16] oh, right, you are gone next week anyway :) [16:16] i'll have something for you by uds for sure ... [16:26] ~curse loop device [16:29] ? [16:31] I got out of loop devices again [16:32] vm-builder uses loop devices and if it break then I need to umount that by hand [16:32] hrw, help me inplement my spec then :) [16:32] yeah [16:32] ogra: url to it? [16:32] <-- not a big fan of the bloated vm-builder [16:32] hrw, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm/+spec/userspace-loop-mounting [16:33] ogra: fuse do not have isofs? [16:33] my initial goal was to hev rootstock not require root [16:33] fuse might have iso but nothing for loop [16:34] i want to be able to loop mount in my homedir without sudo/root [16:34] and even preferably without using a loop device :) [16:34] (not sure thats possible but i didnt start researching yet) [16:35] nbd could once do that, if you had started the nbd-server as a user you could mount an image as the same user [16:35] but sadly since it got deeper integrated in the kernel it has the same constraints as loop mounting === fta_ is now known as fta === prpplague^2 is now known as prpplague === hrw is now known as hrw|gone === JaMa is now known as JaMa|GoNe === JaMa|GoNe is now known as JaMa === jmcgee is now known as jmcgee|gone