=== running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock [01:00] problem on downloading Torrent [01:00] everyone is saying that they are getting spedd while downloading torrent [01:01] but I am getting not more then 25-30 KBps [01:01] shahan: all bets are off for about 48 hours [01:01] phillw: bets? [01:02] if there are more leeches than seeders the rate drops, sadly too many leeches and not enough seeders. the majority are just "me, me, me" and do not understand that giving a little helps. [01:03] phillw: but getting seed 39(6748) and peers 9(3917) [01:05] shahan: idk, all i know is that i don't bother for at least 48 hours. [01:12] fala lobinho [01:12] \o [01:18] it seems not everybody is very happy that Lucid Lynx was released today [01:19] no release ever satisfies everyone =p [01:19] but what about the celebration, the big event? D: [01:20] celebrations happen throughout the first month of release =) [01:20] right now is the "yay, upgrade bugs..." celebration [01:20] hey ddecator [01:20] hey pedro3005 [01:21] how are you? [01:21] pretty good, just finished a midterm today, so now i can relax a little. busy weekend though. yourself? [01:21] come to think of it, I downloaded the first alpha that was released and it worked almost perfectly [01:21] only the partitioner had some issues [01:22] lobinho: that's fairly common with LTS where they aren't making too many major under-the-hood changes [01:22] hmm, I see [01:23] normal releases, i wait until a3, and even then they can be pretty buggy (at least in the past they have been) [01:23] Oh, I'm good [01:27] ddecator, how's Python? :P [01:27] * phillw coughs at pedro3005 saying he is O:-) [01:27] pedro3005: didn't get a chance to work on it yesterday, gonna practice a little tonight =) [01:27] hello, phillw [01:28] ddecator, fun :) I'm stuck on the same problem you were, except in C [01:29] pedro3005: haha, fun stuff. btw, i asked in -team, but do you have a program you would recommend for writing py3 scripts? geanie is just py2 and idle is pretty basic for actual writing.. [01:29] ddecator, Python 3 and 2 aren't different enough that you'd need a different program... I use GEdit for all my programming [01:29] and I love it :D [01:30] cli rlz *-* [01:30] lobinho, no vim thank you [01:30] :p [01:30] I mean the compiler ;) [01:30] pedro3005: following the byte of python, i've run into a few things that he uses that are in python3 but not 2. yah, i've used gedit for editing files when packaging, i like the scheme it uses for coloring the scripts [01:31] lobinho, compile python? dunno what you have been smoking... [01:31] I never learned Python, so I don't have a clue whether it is compiled or interpreted :p [01:32] interpreted as they get [01:32] I'm just saying I prefer compiling stuff through cli :p [01:32] I compile C code through CLI too [01:32] gedit has plugins? o.o [01:32] yup [01:32] i feel like i've been living in the dark.. [01:33] whoa, built-in python console, win [01:35] yeah, but I can't get it to work :X [01:36] oh, found it [01:36] View > Bottom Pane [01:36] yup [01:36] certainly helpful [01:38] hey, anyone knows how to use "su user" or "su - user" within a script? I mean, when the console asks for the password, how do I make the script enter it? I'm assuming I know the password for "user" and don't mind writing it [02:11] lobinho, you generally make it so your script runs as root [02:11] cron, cronweekly/daily/monthly or even run by rc.local [02:11] but the user who'll execute it shouldn't be a sudoer [02:11] then you add the script to the sudoers file [02:12] then they dont need to be sudo [02:12] oh, didn't know about that [02:12] cool! [02:12] np [02:12] and then, the script which runs as root can execute commands through any user account, is that right? [02:13] you go sudo visudo [02:14] then add what scripts you want to be run without root [02:14] googling it right now [02:14] for example this is a line i use in one of my labs ALL ALL=/sbin/lsmod,/sbin/insmod,/sbin/rmmod,/bin/setserial,/bin/mknod [02:14] so the user can run lsmod insmod, rmmod, setserial, and mknod as user when they require sudo normally [02:16] but does that solve the problem of running a non-root command as another user? like user A logging temporarily as user B only for one command in B's account...? [02:16] why do you want to do it? [02:17] (and in answer to your question no... but there is probably another way [02:17] so that other people at home can resume my torrents while I'm out :D [02:17] lobinho: you would use the group part of unix privalideges for that, not try to over-ride owner privalidges ? [02:17] yep phillw [02:18] if you give group rights to it, and put the users in the group they can do it without being you [02:18] depending how you are trying to do it [02:18] but I think the privilege issue is not with the script itself, I believe it's in the command instead [02:18] where is the program installed? [02:19] is it in your userspace or in /bin [02:19] or /sbin [02:19] or /opt/bin [02:19] probably /bin [02:19] make a new group, and simply add the users you want to it. [02:19] or... [02:19] so your using something like transmission [02:19] yup [02:19] and want to be able to have another user use the command line to resume it under your account [02:20] with "$ transmission-remote -s" I can resume torrents through cli [02:20] yeah! [02:20] but that command has to be run as user [02:20] I read somewhere that "su user" makes us log in as user instead of root [02:21] and the console asks for user's password, as well [02:21] now with a script run as root you can do a su user (because your root) and you dont need the user password [02:21] only I can't figure how to make the script enter the password [02:21] so your script should be something like su user && transmission-remote -s [02:21] oh! I didn't know that [02:21] and add the script to sudoers [02:22] * Vantrax is going to double check that.. hasnt done that particular trick in a bit [02:22] someone logged as root doesn't need anyone's password to execute a command as another user? [02:22] no, someone logged in as root can assume a user [02:23] just booting up a machine to test that on [02:24] and why "&&"? I thought of adding the transmission code in the next line [02:25] habit [02:25] just means and execute this one too [02:27] just verified that that does work [02:27] long as you are root you can su to any user without a password [02:28] when I tried "su user", either from terminal or from a script, I got an error [02:28] don't remember what it was like, but it was something related to graphics [02:30] oh no, not graphics, but SCIM [02:30] should I paste the output here? it's 10 lines [02:34] use paste.ubuntu.com [02:34] then give the link [02:35] that part was actually just a warning [02:37] I think I did it! [02:37] first I'm opening gedit with another account whose password I know, so that I'll go there and see if it worked [02:37] should it still be there when I log in for real? [02:37] gonna check that now, brb [02:38] it wasn't there [02:39] i would try creating a file as the client [02:39] or making a directory [02:39] that will show up properly [02:39] s/client/user [02:40] opening graphical programs from a command line as a user is much more tricky [02:40] or maybe this script could execute another script, which would then call Transmission [02:40] the second script would be run as the user, so no problem here [02:41] what do you think? [02:44] Vantrax, thank you very much for the help [02:44] I appreciate it greatly! I believe this is gonna work *-* [02:46] sorry, was afk a sec [02:46] that would also work too [02:46] but so would just doing su user && ... [02:48] wow, I wrote "su user && gedit" and gedit opened up on my own screen, and the terminal where I typed "sudo ./script.sh" became user@... [02:49] I'll try just clicking on it [03:15] su user only allows you to run a command with that users rights [03:15] so if your running a graphical program it will run in your session with that users rights [03:16] then I'll have to keep on searching [03:18] there must be a way to start a session and run a program... maybe some hard low level coding? D: [03:18] Vantrax, you mean like "su USERNAME -c COMMAND" ?? [03:20] yep [03:21] thats the one i was thinking about [03:21] lobinho, use su -c user transmission-remote -s [03:22] yeah, tried su user -c gedit right now [03:22] gotta log int as user to see if it's there [03:22] I'm afraid Pidgin/IRC will drop in the meantime, so brb [03:22] it will [03:23] hmm, nope, gedit was not open in the other session [03:23] neither did Pidgin drop [03:23] =) [03:23] i dont think that it works with graphical commands [03:24] hey, in the manpage I found an option -l or --login [03:24] Make the shell a login shell. This means the following. Unset all environment variables except TERM, HOME, and SHELL (which are set as described above), and USER and LOGNAME (which are set, even for the super-user, as described above), and set PATH to a compiled-in default value. Change to user's home directory. Prepend ‘-’ to the shell's name, intended to make it read its login startup file(s). [03:25] Failed to launch SCIM. [03:25] (gedit:18571): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [03:48] thats a display issue tho lobinho [03:49] that actually told you it workd [03:49] how are you going to launch an application when it doesnt have a display to put it on [03:49] another session (ie yours) has it [03:50] when I launch it through mouse click, it doesn't display anything, since there's no terminal screen... [03:51] so why does the program not open, when we do have a terminal output telling us it works? [03:52] maybe get your script to have an exit message so you can verify that it completed [03:52] it can cat to a file to give success comments [03:53] like this...? [03:53] su user -c gedit | cat output [03:54] well that depends [03:55] su user -cl gedit | cat /tmp/output should work [03:55] -cl is like -c AND -l at the same time? [03:55] i would recommend not using gedit [03:56] yes [03:56] oh, why not gedit? [03:56] i would not use a graphical program [03:56] because your session has the display [03:56] but that's the point [03:56] so you cant open an application on a display [03:56] Transmission is a graphical program [03:56] transmission is both [03:56] hmm [03:57] also, transmission will already be running [03:57] so your not trying to create a new instance, just send a command to a program already in memory [03:58] that depends on the situation [03:58] most of the times, my account won't even be logged [03:59] I mean, everytime I leave with my session blocked and Transmission running, my mother eventually reboots so that she can surf the web [03:59] then, if she is to run a script that will resume my downloads after she's done, Transmission won't be already running in the first place [04:05] anyone know how to get a wireless network set up with ubuntu...im new... [04:06] if you have the hardware plugged, it's all automatic :) [04:06] at least it should be o.o [04:06] my wireless is built in to my laptop [04:06] and since i have ubuntu, just got it two days ago, im used to windows, it hasnt been working [04:06] and i have no idea how to make anything work [04:07] i just need to set up the router in my house [04:07] and somehow get it all working [04:08] the one that came with my laptop just worked as soon as the system loaded everything [04:08] hmm [04:08] i dont have the software for my wireless router [04:09] ive had it for a long time and i dont know where it is [04:09] but you shouldn't need any software for this [04:09] and it wouldnt work with ununtu anyhow [04:09] its a microsoft wireless g router, and i have a laptop, and ubuntu 9.10 [04:10] anyhow, its alright, ive been trying to do this for two days now, maybe you know where i can find help thru a website or something [04:11] im really not used to ubuntu yet and i have a lot of trouble trying to find things [04:12] which is somewhat strange, since it always provided me with everything I needed - apart from specific applications, of course [04:13] hm [04:13] oh well [04:13] ill just keep trying [04:13] thank you for your time [04:13] you sure the router works in other OS's? [04:13] it worked fine in windows [04:14] but my wireless card in my laptop doesnt connect anywhere now [04:14] since i got ubuntu [04:14] i cant connect to wireless anywhere [04:14] and i dont know what to do to fix it [04:15] and i dont know how to get my computer to recognize the wireless router [04:15] like in normal windows how you would run a set up or something [04:16] there should be a connection icon in a panel, usually on the top-right corner [04:16] mhm [04:16] but it doesnt see any wireless connections [04:17] try clicking on "edit connections" (right-click menu) [04:18] it only has the auto etho thing [04:18] which is all these wires on my floor [04:18] im guessing [04:18] yes, auto ethN are wired connections [04:19] but the wireless signal should be listet as well [04:19] so how do i get it to see the wireless [04:19] listed [04:20] hmm... by clicking on "edit connections", maybe you can create a wireless network [04:20] I'm not sure if that would do [04:21] ive tried that [04:21] ive been clicking around for a bit, let me see if i can make it work now [04:21] i may be back [04:21] thank you for your help [04:39] boo, i was awa [04:39] when ducky comes back get him to find out what adapter he has in his laptop [04:40] he can use lspci ( lists pci device) and lsusb ( lists usb device) [04:40] that will give him his model [04:40] also have him check for restricted drivers [05:35] i'm surprised how quiet it is in here.. [06:15] dowonload finished [06:15] now need the checksum of 10.04 [06:15] not getting [06:15] starcraftman: ... [06:15] phillw: ... [06:16] I need emergency help [06:16] need check sum of ubuntu 10.04 [06:17] any one can help me? [06:17] the hash for md5sum? [06:17] ddecator: yes [06:17] ddecator: of ubuntu 10.04 [06:18] ddecator: can u help me? [06:18] shahan: i'm finding it =) [06:18] ddecator: to get the hash of ubuntu 10.04... I am not getting it [06:18] ddecator: ok [06:19] ddecator: please [06:20] shahan: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/MD5SUMS [06:20] ddecator: tnx very much :-) [06:20] shahan: np =) [07:10] I am back [07:10] with ubuntu 10.04 [07:11] very nice =) [07:11] welcome to the future [07:11] ddecator: I am looking for ubuntu-restricted-extras offline installer [07:12] ddecator: do u have any know source? [07:12] ddecator: known? [07:12] why would you need offline? [07:12] thats great [07:13] ddecator: I need as someone has no internet [07:13] ddecator: its could be helpful [07:13] ddecator: is there any problem? [07:14] well, it's not included on the system, so the only offline solution i can think of is downloading the .deb, putting it on a flash drive, then installing it on the other system.. [07:15] ddecator: do u know any source for downloading the .deb file of ubuntu-restricted-extras? [07:16] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-restricted-extras [07:16] check the package details, find the one you need [07:16] that is, click the arrows next to whichever verion they have [07:21] good morning team [07:22] one more mirror for the downloaders if anyone wants to post links http://ubuntu.akos.me [07:22] morning/evening Akos [08:46] Hello! I need help with my booting problem [08:46] hi ravibn, what seems to be the problem ,the wider you explain, the more can someone help you (: [08:47] Hi, I ran an update few minutes back and it asked me to restart. After the restart in the boot menu I select generic kernel 2.6.31-21-genric to boot. I got an error msg "1.185157 Kernal Panic - not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (8,17)" However I rebooted again with older version generic kernal 2.6.31-20 it works fine. How to fix this problem ? [08:50] i swear i just saw someone ask about that.. [08:51] ah, you asked about it in -launchpad =) [08:51] ok, so i'm not crazy [08:52] ddecator: from reading the backsroll I believe that was ravibn earlier [08:52] yes! I had asked this earlier but got no response from anyone [08:52] sorry, i saw it, but i'm not familiar with the kernel =\ [08:53] ravibn: are you running ubuntu inside wubi? [08:53] thats right under win xp prof [08:53] ah... one sec, I was reading something about that a few days ago [08:54] but this update happened only today [08:55] ravibn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8639088&postcount=79 [08:55] yes, the same thing happened to a few people using wubi the last time there was a kernel update [09:00] basically I need to uninstall wubi by unistall-wubi.exe and then install this wubi from the url [09:01] ravibn: I don't think you need to uninstall wubi, just overwrite it with the new wubi from that url [09:02] gottcha you ! let me do that and I will get back on this channel [09:07] i don't miss the wubi days.. [09:10] ddecator: yeah, I'm not a big fan personally - but it is useful to help people transition to lubuntu :) [09:10] kermiac : I did replace the wubi from that url but the problem was not solved [09:11] kermiac: did the trick for me, haha. then windows decided it wanted to move all of the files necessary to boot for no apparent reason. decided to dual-boot after that [09:14] ravibn: please try this updated version http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/lucid/wubi-r189.exe [09:14] you will need to rename it to wubi.exe [09:15] Ok! I will give it a try [09:25] <_Commander_> anyone here [09:25] <_Commander_> ? [09:26] _Commander_: what's up? [09:26] <_Commander_> need help [09:26] <_Commander_> after some updates my computer wont boot [09:27] hm, quite a few people seem to be having that, i saw a lot of threads on the forums about it [09:27] <_Commander_> was running lucid beta2 and updated some pakages today about 120mb [09:27] _Commander_: can you be more specific about what happens? [09:28] * kermiac goes to eat dinner. If ravibn is still having issues with wubi can someone pls direct him to the "if you have issues follow this procedure" part of http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9030372&postcount=1 [09:28] <_Commander_> freezing during boot [09:28] <_Commander_> stuck at loading initial ramdisk [09:29] any error messages? [09:29] <_Commander_> nothung [09:29] <_Commander_> nothing... [09:30] kermiac : Hi! the problem got solved. This got solved with the earlier version of wubi [09:31] _Commander_: hmm..unfortunately i'm not very good with boot issues =\ [09:31] especially when it's 3:30am, haha [09:31] <_Commander_> hm.... stuck with my phone on xhat.... [09:31] kermiac : you r online still ? [09:32] ravibn: good to hear =) kermiac might be busy at work atm [09:32] _Commander_: ok, let me take a look to see if i can find anything on the forums [09:32] anyway thanks [09:33] np, it's what we're here for =) [09:33] _Commander_: can i ask how you know where it's getting stuck? [09:34] <_Commander_> while loading initial ramdisk. [09:37] _Commander_: on the forums it sounds like people had luck booting with a live cd then reinstalling grub [09:38] we had some issues earlier with grub...if you got the iso after they fixed it, you shouldn't have run into issues, but it might not be the same problem [09:38] <_Commander_> hm odd [09:39] er, wait [09:39] sorry, there is several people talking about different issues in this thread.. [09:40] _Commander_: is ubuntu the only OS on your computer? [09:40] <_Commander_> windows 7 as second [09:40] can you boot into windows still? [09:41] <_Commander_> not tried. doing a live cd into lynx [09:41] Does the previous kernel boot? [09:41] <_Commander_> nopp [09:43] i know some people were unable to boot into any OS, and that was due to GRUB or, in some cases, the MBR [09:47] ok, i can't stay up any longer, i need sleep... [09:47] <_Commander_> night night :) [09:47] good luck _Commander_ i'm sure others can help you if you run into any issues [10:13] starcraftman: r u here? [10:13] starcraftman: you online? [10:16] is there any site which provide the Linux alternative of Windows software? [10:17] is there any site which provide the Linux alternative of Windows software? [10:17] is there any site which provide the Linux alternative of Windows software? [10:18] is there any site which provide the Linux alternative of Windows software? [10:20] shahan: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/switching/index.html [10:20] «Ubuntu equivalents to Windows programs» [10:20] There's also linuxalt.com [10:22] geirha: tnx [10:22] tnx very much === asd is now known as Guest22772 === starcraftman is now known as starcraft-ntbk [13:25] /26/30 [14:18] hey guys I had the Update manager update my kernel yesterday and it appears that now my touchpad scrolling is now not working.....odd eh? [14:21] woohoo, its back this morning!!!! [14:21] Does it work if you boot the previous kernel? [14:21] Oh, fixed by magic? :) [14:23] I have no idea, I tried it this morning and voila.....Maybe the laptop was tired and the long sleep last night fixed it. LOL!!! [14:24] javatexan: you have failed to factor in the magic linux gods, they work in mysterious ways. [14:24] I am not complaining....perplexed, but not complaining [14:24] LOL [14:30] hi [14:32] heya [14:35] ikt, have you come across the issue of ubuntu failing - ie gwibber isn't working for me nore firefox [14:36] First thing I'd check is space usage. df -h [14:37] firefox isn't working? [14:37] If / or /home is full, that would likely be the problem. [14:38] not full [14:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/425261/ [14:40] So that can be safely ruled out :) [14:40] do you get any error messages? [14:42] no [14:42] i just can't post or update [14:43] Maybe firefox has been updated and you haven't restarted it? [14:43] that's odd [14:44] I always have /home separate so I can do a quick reinstall if need be [14:44] nope i rebooted several times# [14:45] Have you looked in ~/.xsession-errors for errors relating to firefox or gwibber? [15:02] hi switchgirl [15:02] good morning. did anyone upgrade to lynx? [15:02] is this in lucid? [15:09] switchgirl: keyboard refuses to post anything? [15:09] and only thing that works is alt ctrl del and you have to hit restart? [15:09] no it can type [15:09] it wont post it [15:13] so enter is busted? [15:17] LzrdKing, it isn't it just adds a line [15:18] how about at the command line? [15:19] maybe you need to change the batteries in your wireless keyboard [15:20] I had a partially broken keyboard a while back. After hitting ctrl+something, the keyrelease event wouldn't always trigger for the ctrl key, so when hitting Enter, it would actually be treated as Ctrl+Enter [15:21] tapping the ctrl key usually "shook it loose" [15:33] Hi I just installed v10.4lts with wine and timidity, and although it worked at first now I have no sound and the hardware isn´t listed in audio configuration [15:34] hello all, would this be a good place to direct someone who has no experience with ubuntu or IRC even? I have installed ubuntu on someone's machine and I plan on getting them started, but I won't always be there [15:35] Hi I just installed v10.4lts with wine and timidity, and although it worked at first now I have no sound and the hardware isn´t listed in audio configuration [15:35] julian, is your sound muted? [15:35] digitalstimulus: I guess, forums work also, both would be best, isn't always someone on IRC. [15:36] nope it´s not muted :) [15:36] julian: uh, sound problems on linux cause headaches. Your sure initially after install sound was working? [15:36] this gnome or kde? [15:36] absolutely yea it was all working fine... [15:37] it´s gnome yea [15:38] julian: hmmm, can you push alt+F2 and then type in: gstreamer-properties [15:39] uhuh done [15:39] that should open a new window, cycle through the audio playback options and test them please. See if anything works. [15:39] i´ve done this already and it cycles through fine but there is no audio at all.... [15:39] julian: hmmm [15:39] I think I really screwed it up by installing timidity [15:40] julian, are your speakers plugged in? or have you plugged in anything else like headphones or a USB sound device? [15:40] they´re integrated and i´ve booted windows vista on the other partition and the audio still works... [15:40] and no there´s nothing plugged in [15:40] what is timidity? [15:41] it´s a sort of midi driver [15:41] julian: that could be, I'm not aware of any glaring problems atm though. That said I don't use timidity often. [15:41] yea.. [15:41] maybe I should just uninstall timidity [15:41] julian: that might be a solution at least temporarily. [15:41] :) [15:42] thanks for your help [15:42] np, didn't really do much. If not come back and we'll see about checking hardware more. [15:42] thanks :) [15:45] hey starcraftman, it still doesn't work :( [15:52] what would make my wireless card not associate with my router when i do iwconfig wlan0 essid