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LLStarksi feel bad for lucid users. firefox is still a memory pig.02:37
micahgLLStarks: it's better than 3.0 and 3.502:39
LLStarks300 MB02:39
LLStarksdisgusting02:39
LLStarksand this is with very few addons02:40
LLStarksall of them top-tier on amo02:40
micahgLLStarks: being popular has nothing to do with memory02:41
LLStarksif they're popular, one would assume that they are quality and well-dev'd02:41
LLStarkswith no leaks02:41
micahgLLStarks: doesn't need a leak to use lots of memory02:41
LLStarksabp, dta, flashgot02:42
LLStarkswhat the hell are they doing in the background?02:42
gavinhave you compared memory use without them?02:57
gavinhave you compared memory use to other browsers in similar conditions?02:57
LLStarkschromium is a featherweight even with extensions02:57
LLStarksnever more than 50mb02:57
gavinincluding all of its processes?02:58
LLStarksi guess03:02
LLStarkswait03:02
LLStarksokay, fine 100mb03:03
micahggavin: congrats on the acct manager project03:17
gavinmicahg: why are you congratulating me? :)05:36
micahggavin: idk, it seems like a popular project05:36
gavinmicahg: was my name mentioned in relation to it, or ?05:37
micahggavin: http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2010/04/account-manager-graduates-from-labs/05:38
gavinI see05:39
micahggavin: did they draft you without you knowing ;)05:39
gavinheh, no05:39
ddecatordang, micah got off. anyone here familiar with the fact that -no-remote doesn't work properly? bug 39385306:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 393853 in firefox "Cannot create new process for firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39385306:30
ddecatori'm guessing it's a downstream issue, but i'm not sure if it can be fixed (i would hope it can) and if any more information is needed06:31
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BUGabundo_remoteMorning08:44
ddecatorha, micah hasn't been on in a while, but i keep getting bugmail from him..08:56
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sebnerasac: urgent ping11:04
asacsebner: pong11:08
sebnerasac: I know micahg is responsible but he is not here, TB doesn't start in lucid (did a fresh reinstall)11:08
asacwhat happens?11:08
sebnerMissing libmozjs.so11:08
sebnerebner@ubuntu:~$ ldd /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4/thunderbird-bin | grep "found"11:08
sebnerlibmozjs.so => not found11:08
sebnerlibxpcom.so => not found11:08
sebnerlibxpcom_core.so => not found11:08
sebnerlibldap60.so => not found11:08
sebnerlibprldap60.so => not found11:08
sebnerlibldif60.so => not found11:08
asacthats ok11:09
asachow do you start?11:09
sebnerasac: It doesn't start11:09
asac12:09 < asac> how do you start?11:09
sebnerasac: ah11:10
sebnerasac: sebner@ubuntu:~$ thunderbird11:10
sebnersebner@ubuntu:~$ cd /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4/11:10
sebnersebner@ubuntu:/usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4$ ./thunderbird-bin11:10
sebner./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:10
ftayou have to use the wrapper11:10
asactight11:10
asacright11:10
asac12:10 < sebner> sebner@ubuntu:/usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4$ ./thunderbird-bin11:10
sebnerfta: GUI way also doesn't work ;)11:10
asac-> thats supposed to give that error11:10
asacps -eaf | grep thunder11:10
asacdo you get anything?11:10
sebnersebner    2304  1680  0 12:10 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto thunder11:11
asacdpkg -l thunderbitrd11:11
asacdpkg -l thunderbird11:11
asacwhich thunderbird11:11
asacwhat do those give?11:11
sebnerii  thunderbird                       3.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu4          mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support11:12
asacstrace -f -eopen thunderbird 2>&1 | tee /tmp/log .... paste the log11:12
sebnerasac: http://pastebin.com/sEFLZdd611:15
ftagconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command  ?11:16
asacsebner: thunderbird -safe-mode works?11:16
sebnerasac: nope11:18
sebnerfta: thunderbird %s11:18
ftaok, so tb-bin is not registered there, good11:18
asacseems it doesnt start with thunderbird for him11:19
ftathe strace with just -eopen is not very helpful, try without it (but it's verbose)11:23
ftaalso paste a simple: sh -x /usr/bin/thunderbird 2>&1 | pastebinit11:24
ftasebner, ^^11:24
sebnerfta: http://pastebin.com/0FwHbwQx11:25
fta access("/home/sebner/.thunderbird", F_OK) = -1 ELOOP (Too many levels of symbolic links)11:25
ftaknown issue11:26
sebnerfta: how to fiXX0r?11:27
asacouch11:29
asacthats the link thing again11:29
asactoo bad11:30
asacsebner: di you have .thunderbird.upstream?11:30
sebnerasac: nope11:30
asacls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird11:30
asacls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird*11:30
sebnerasac: drwx------ 3 sebner sebner 4096 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird11:30
ftasebner, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-April/000708.html11:31
asacls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird/11:31
asacls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird/Ü*11:31
asacerr11:31
asacls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird/*11:31
sebnerasac: -rw-r--r-- 1 sebner sebner  335 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird/appreg11:31
sebnerdrwx------ 4 sebner sebner 4096 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird/c6y5f6u6.default11:31
sebner-rw-r--r-- 1 sebner sebner   94 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird/profiles.ini11:31
ftahm, it's different then11:32
asacstrange... sure that is the same system as the system fro the strace?11:32
sebnerbah11:32
sebnerasac: yes ;)11:32
asac/home/sebner/.thunderbird -> complains about too many symbolic links11:32
asacbut .thunderbird isnt a link11:32
asacdouble check. maybe you have a slogin session or something11:33
sebnerasac: nope, uhh but after removing .*thunderbird it's working now, ehm with a fresh profile but anyways11:33
asacwell. then we cant figure out what caused this11:34
asacand if you didnt do imap you lost all your mails now11:34
sebnerasac: I saved my old .mozilla-thunderbird folder though. Can I copy it to .thunderbird?11:35
asacprobably11:35
asacnot into it ... but rather move the current away11:35
asacand copy it as ".thunderbird"11:35
sebnerasac: done but still wants to open a new profile :/11:37
asacno clue. somethign is badly busted11:39
asacprobably you did the copy wrong etc.11:39
asacno time atm11:39
sebnernah, I'm not that of a n00b, doing that since years ..11:41
asacls -l $HOME/.thunderbird now11:55
sebnerasac: it seems my old thunderbird folder got br0ken somehow, well, now I have a fresh/clean new one ^^11:57
sebnerthx anyways12:00
ftawhere does Empathy store the user accounts? i need to restore them from a backup12:33
ftaBUGabundo_remote, ^^ any idea?12:33
BUGabundo_remotefta: no. .local ?12:40
ftanope12:40
ftaBUGabundo_remote, tried ~/.gconf/apps/empathy ~/.config/Empathy ~/.local/share/Empathy  nada12:42
ftaBUGabundo_remote, n-m, found it12:44
ftait's ~/.mission-control12:44
BUGabundo_remoteyep12:44
BUGabundo_remotelol12:44
BUGabundo_remotesuggestive name, isn't it?12:44
BUGabundo_remoteits like .purple12:44
ftafor .purple, i would have guessed it, because i know it uses libpurple12:45
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BUGabundo_remote 2351 1352e4    765         19K   2.7G   2.1G   2.7G   2.1G  28% VirtualBox14:37
BUGabundo_remote 2270 2158e4   1299      40563K   1.9G   1.1G   1.9G   1.1G  14% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote 2260 4857e3    256      40563K   1.8G   1.1G   1.8G   1.1G  14% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote18864 8803e3    190      40563K   1.3G 542.9M   1.3G 542.9M   7% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote 7404 5917e3     16      40563K   1.2G 446.5M   1.2G 446.5M   6% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote 1736 1230e4    271       1760K 575.2M 211.2M 575.2M 211.2M   3% Xorg14:37
BUGabundo_remote 2119 8905e3   1309      40563K   1.3G 176.5M   1.3G 176.5M   2% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote17670 183990     14      40563K 942.9M 168.7M 942.9M 168.7M   2% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote16070 247088      8      40563K 905.7M 147.2M 905.7M 147.2M   2% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote23001 199044      1      40563K 910.7M 105.0M 910.7M 105.0M   1% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote21474  87434      0      40563K 875.0M 66148K 875.0M 66148K   1% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote19823  48391      5      40563K 864.3M 46240K 864.3M 46240K   1% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remote16060  88257      2      40563K 859.9M 46096K 859.9M 46096K   1% chromium-brows14:37
BUGabundo_remotefta: ^^^^^^^14:37
ftadoh14:37
BUGabundo_remoteand that's NOT all of them14:38
BUGabundo_remoteshame,.... it had several weeks running14:38
BUGabundo_remotewith daily updates to with without restarting14:38
BUGabundo_remoterunning on debian unstable14:38
BUGabundo_remotelol14:38
DASPRiDthere is such a cool thing, it is called pastebin or something like that :P15:17
micahgasac: ping15:36
gnomefreakok i think my channels are correct now16:07
BUGabundo_remotelol16:29
gnomefreaksorry i have certain channels that have to have certain window #s and its hard to do when chanels keep closing for a month or 2, one of these days i will get to that16:38
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micahgasac: was the pfs DB ever updated...see bug 56913517:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 569135 in ubufox "[REGRESSION] Flash missing plugin dialog in Firefox doesn't propose to install it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56913517:17
micahgbbiab17:19
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micahgsebner: you still have the symbolic link issue?19:11
micahgsebner: were you on Lucid for the last month?19:13
micahgsebner: have you run thunderbird lately?19:13
sebnermicahg: it was a fresh install and nope, I started a fresh profile so it works now19:20
micahgsebner: that worries me19:20
micahgsebner: I'll test with a live CD this weekend19:20
sebnermicahg: :), I'm sorry, I wanted my mails ^^19:21
micahgsebner: np, I'm sorry for the trouble19:21
micahgsebner: you were right in more ways than one when you said I was responsible :-/19:21
sebnerheh19:22
sebnermicahg: you are the "maintainer" but it wasn't meant to offense you19:22
micahgsebner: I know, just pointing it out :)19:24
* sebner hugs micahg :)19:24
micahg:)19:25
ftathe indicator applet is sort of broken wrt Empathy & gwibber19:32
ftapff, i guess i should stop the bot, it's impossible to build anything with so few builders19:46
BUGabundoeheh19:46
BUGabundowhy are they so busy?19:46
ftaBUGabundo, <bigjools> fta: yeah,all the DC machines get commandeered to push CDs out19:48
BUGabundohum?19:49
BUGabundobut what CDs?19:49
BUGabundothey are all done19:49
ftai guess it's to upload them19:49
ftato users19:49
ftamicahg, ^^ i stopped the dailies19:50
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micahgfta: k, thanks, I'll fix the ff37 build failure over the weekend then20:08
micahgBUGabundo: probably download servers20:08
BUGabundoweird20:08
ftamicahg, lp says the q is between 3 and 6 days, i hope they are wrong20:08
micahgfta: probably not20:09
BUGabundoahaah20:09
micahgfta: my guess is someone uploaded a kernel or something like that to the PPAs20:12
ftayep, a few kernels all day long, some private builds, and a few other huge packages20:12
ftaours are huge too btw20:12
ftaseems there are a bunch of other daily ppa too now20:13
micahgfta: well, the firefox/xul/TB ones are only an hour each20:14
ftawe're no longer alone ;)20:14
ftathe chromium uploaded 13h ago is schedule to start building in 20h :(20:15
ftahttp://www.osnews.com/story/23229/IE9_HTML5_Video_Will_Be_H264_Only20:17
micahg:(20:18
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micahgasac: oing re pfs21:34
BUGabundomicahg: wanna join me in maverick?21:34
BUGabundoI feel all alone in here21:35
micahgBUGabundo: where's maverick?21:35
BUGabundohttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/21:35
micahgthat was fast21:36
micahgBUGabundo: pre-release freeze?21:36
BUGabundowhat freeze?21:36
BUGabundoits all open21:36
micahgBUGabundo: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.221:36
BUGabundolol21:37
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ftais there a FOSSCamp joint to UDS this time?22:23
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maxbBUGabundo: I think it stays frozen until the toolchain uploads are complete23:49
BUGabundomaybe23:49

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