[02:37] i feel bad for lucid users. firefox is still a memory pig. [02:39] LLStarks: it's better than 3.0 and 3.5 [02:39] 300 MB [02:39] disgusting [02:40] and this is with very few addons [02:40] all of them top-tier on amo [02:41] LLStarks: being popular has nothing to do with memory [02:41] if they're popular, one would assume that they are quality and well-dev'd [02:41] with no leaks [02:41] LLStarks: doesn't need a leak to use lots of memory [02:42] abp, dta, flashgot [02:42] what the hell are they doing in the background? [02:57] have you compared memory use without them? [02:57] have you compared memory use to other browsers in similar conditions? [02:57] chromium is a featherweight even with extensions [02:57] never more than 50mb [02:58] including all of its processes? [03:02] i guess [03:02] wait [03:03] okay, fine 100mb [03:17] gavin: congrats on the acct manager project [05:36] micahg: why are you congratulating me? :) [05:36] gavin: idk, it seems like a popular project [05:37] micahg: was my name mentioned in relation to it, or ? [05:38] gavin: http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2010/04/account-manager-graduates-from-labs/ [05:39] I see [05:39] gavin: did they draft you without you knowing ;) [05:39] heh, no [06:30] dang, micah got off. anyone here familiar with the fact that -no-remote doesn't work properly? bug 393853 [06:30] Launchpad bug 393853 in firefox "Cannot create new process for firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393853 [06:31] i'm guessing it's a downstream issue, but i'm not sure if it can be fixed (i would hope it can) and if any more information is needed === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [08:44] Morning [08:56] ha, micah hasn't been on in a while, but i keep getting bugmail from him.. === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [11:04] asac: urgent ping [11:08] sebner: pong [11:08] asac: I know micahg is responsible but he is not here, TB doesn't start in lucid (did a fresh reinstall) [11:08] what happens? [11:08] Missing libmozjs.so [11:08] ebner@ubuntu:~$ ldd /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4/thunderbird-bin | grep "found" [11:08] libmozjs.so => not found [11:08] libxpcom.so => not found [11:08] libxpcom_core.so => not found [11:08] libldap60.so => not found [11:08] libprldap60.so => not found [11:08] libldif60.so => not found [11:09] thats ok [11:09] how do you start? [11:09] asac: It doesn't start [11:09] 12:09 < asac> how do you start? [11:10] asac: ah [11:10] asac: sebner@ubuntu:~$ thunderbird [11:10] sebner@ubuntu:~$ cd /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4/ [11:10] sebner@ubuntu:/usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4$ ./thunderbird-bin [11:10] ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [11:10] you have to use the wrapper [11:10] tight [11:10] right [11:10] 12:10 < sebner> sebner@ubuntu:/usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4$ ./thunderbird-bin [11:10] fta: GUI way also doesn't work ;) [11:10] -> thats supposed to give that error [11:10] ps -eaf | grep thunder [11:10] do you get anything? [11:11] sebner 2304 1680 0 12:10 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto thunder [11:11] dpkg -l thunderbitrd [11:11] dpkg -l thunderbird [11:11] which thunderbird [11:11] what do those give? [11:12] ii thunderbird 3.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support [11:12] strace -f -eopen thunderbird 2>&1 | tee /tmp/log .... paste the log [11:15] asac: http://pastebin.com/sEFLZdd6 [11:16] gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command ? [11:16] sebner: thunderbird -safe-mode works? [11:18] asac: nope [11:18] fta: thunderbird %s [11:18] ok, so tb-bin is not registered there, good [11:19] seems it doesnt start with thunderbird for him [11:23] the strace with just -eopen is not very helpful, try without it (but it's verbose) [11:24] also paste a simple: sh -x /usr/bin/thunderbird 2>&1 | pastebinit [11:24] sebner, ^^ [11:25] fta: http://pastebin.com/0FwHbwQx [11:25] access("/home/sebner/.thunderbird", F_OK) = -1 ELOOP (Too many levels of symbolic links) [11:26] known issue [11:27] fta: how to fiXX0r? [11:29] ouch [11:29] thats the link thing again [11:30] too bad [11:30] sebner: di you have .thunderbird.upstream? [11:30] asac: nope [11:30] ls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird [11:30] ls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird* [11:30] asac: drwx------ 3 sebner sebner 4096 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird [11:31] sebner, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-April/000708.html [11:31] ls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird/ [11:31] ls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird/Ü* [11:31] err [11:31] ls -dl /home/sebner/.thunderbird/* [11:31] asac: -rw-r--r-- 1 sebner sebner 335 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird/appreg [11:31] drwx------ 4 sebner sebner 4096 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird/c6y5f6u6.default [11:31] -rw-r--r-- 1 sebner sebner 94 2010-04-30 12:28 /home/sebner/.thunderbird/profiles.ini [11:32] hm, it's different then [11:32] strange... sure that is the same system as the system fro the strace? [11:32] bah [11:32] asac: yes ;) [11:32] /home/sebner/.thunderbird -> complains about too many symbolic links [11:32] but .thunderbird isnt a link [11:33] double check. maybe you have a slogin session or something [11:33] asac: nope, uhh but after removing .*thunderbird it's working now, ehm with a fresh profile but anyways [11:34] well. then we cant figure out what caused this [11:34] and if you didnt do imap you lost all your mails now [11:35] asac: I saved my old .mozilla-thunderbird folder though. Can I copy it to .thunderbird? [11:35] probably [11:35] not into it ... but rather move the current away [11:35] and copy it as ".thunderbird" [11:37] asac: done but still wants to open a new profile :/ [11:39] no clue. somethign is badly busted [11:39] probably you did the copy wrong etc. [11:39] no time atm [11:41] nah, I'm not that of a n00b, doing that since years .. [11:55] ls -l $HOME/.thunderbird now [11:57] asac: it seems my old thunderbird folder got br0ken somehow, well, now I have a fresh/clean new one ^^ [12:00] thx anyways [12:33] where does Empathy store the user accounts? i need to restore them from a backup [12:33] BUGabundo_remote, ^^ any idea? [12:40] fta: no. .local ? [12:40] nope [12:42] BUGabundo_remote, tried ~/.gconf/apps/empathy ~/.config/Empathy ~/.local/share/Empathy nada [12:44] BUGabundo_remote, n-m, found it [12:44] it's ~/.mission-control [12:44] yep [12:44] lol [12:44] suggestive name, isn't it? [12:44] its like .purple [12:45] for .purple, i would have guessed it, because i know it uses libpurple === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [14:37] 2351 1352e4 765 19K 2.7G 2.1G 2.7G 2.1G 28% VirtualBox [14:37] 2270 2158e4 1299 40563K 1.9G 1.1G 1.9G 1.1G 14% chromium-brows [14:37] 2260 4857e3 256 40563K 1.8G 1.1G 1.8G 1.1G 14% chromium-brows [14:37] 18864 8803e3 190 40563K 1.3G 542.9M 1.3G 542.9M 7% chromium-brows [14:37] 7404 5917e3 16 40563K 1.2G 446.5M 1.2G 446.5M 6% chromium-brows [14:37] 1736 1230e4 271 1760K 575.2M 211.2M 575.2M 211.2M 3% Xorg [14:37] 2119 8905e3 1309 40563K 1.3G 176.5M 1.3G 176.5M 2% chromium-brows [14:37] 17670 183990 14 40563K 942.9M 168.7M 942.9M 168.7M 2% chromium-brows [14:37] 16070 247088 8 40563K 905.7M 147.2M 905.7M 147.2M 2% chromium-brows [14:37] 23001 199044 1 40563K 910.7M 105.0M 910.7M 105.0M 1% chromium-brows [14:37] 21474 87434 0 40563K 875.0M 66148K 875.0M 66148K 1% chromium-brows [14:37] 19823 48391 5 40563K 864.3M 46240K 864.3M 46240K 1% chromium-brows [14:37] 16060 88257 2 40563K 859.9M 46096K 859.9M 46096K 1% chromium-brows [14:37] fta: ^^^^^^^ [14:37] doh [14:38] and that's NOT all of them [14:38] shame,.... it had several weeks running [14:38] with daily updates to with without restarting [14:38] running on debian unstable [14:38] lol [15:17] there is such a cool thing, it is called pastebin or something like that :P [15:36] asac: ping [16:07] ok i think my channels are correct now [16:29] lol [16:38] sorry i have certain channels that have to have certain window #s and its hard to do when chanels keep closing for a month or 2, one of these days i will get to that === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [17:17] asac: was the pfs DB ever updated...see bug 569135 [17:17] Launchpad bug 569135 in ubufox "[REGRESSION] Flash missing plugin dialog in Firefox doesn't propose to install it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569135 [17:19] bbiab === fta_ is now known as fta [19:11] sebner: you still have the symbolic link issue? [19:13] sebner: were you on Lucid for the last month? [19:13] sebner: have you run thunderbird lately? [19:20] micahg: it was a fresh install and nope, I started a fresh profile so it works now [19:20] sebner: that worries me [19:20] sebner: I'll test with a live CD this weekend [19:21] micahg: :), I'm sorry, I wanted my mails ^^ [19:21] sebner: np, I'm sorry for the trouble [19:21] sebner: you were right in more ways than one when you said I was responsible :-/ [19:22] heh [19:22] micahg: you are the "maintainer" but it wasn't meant to offense you [19:24] sebner: I know, just pointing it out :) [19:24] * sebner hugs micahg :) [19:25] :) [19:32] the indicator applet is sort of broken wrt Empathy & gwibber [19:46] pff, i guess i should stop the bot, it's impossible to build anything with so few builders [19:46] eheh [19:46] why are they so busy? [19:48] BUGabundo, fta: yeah,all the DC machines get commandeered to push CDs out [19:49] hum? [19:49] but what CDs? [19:49] they are all done [19:49] i guess it's to upload them [19:49] to users [19:50] micahg, ^^ i stopped the dailies === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [20:08] fta: k, thanks, I'll fix the ff37 build failure over the weekend then [20:08] BUGabundo: probably download servers [20:08] weird [20:08] micahg, lp says the q is between 3 and 6 days, i hope they are wrong [20:09] fta: probably not [20:09] ahaah [20:12] fta: my guess is someone uploaded a kernel or something like that to the PPAs [20:12] yep, a few kernels all day long, some private builds, and a few other huge packages [20:12] ours are huge too btw [20:13] seems there are a bunch of other daily ppa too now [20:14] fta: well, the firefox/xul/TB ones are only an hour each [20:14] we're no longer alone ;) [20:15] the chromium uploaded 13h ago is schedule to start building in 20h :( [20:17] http://www.osnews.com/story/23229/IE9_HTML5_Video_Will_Be_H264_Only [20:18] :( === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_dinner === BUGabundo_dinner is now known as BUGabundo [21:34] asac: oing re pfs [21:34] micahg: wanna join me in maverick? [21:35] I feel all alone in here [21:35] BUGabundo: where's maverick? [21:35] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/ [21:36] that was fast [21:36] BUGabundo: pre-release freeze? [21:36] what freeze? [21:36] its all open [21:36] BUGabundo: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.2 [21:37] lol === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_bones === BUGabundo_bones is now known as BUGabundo_Bones [22:23] is there a FOSSCamp joint to UDS this time? === BUGabundo_Bones is now known as BUGabundo_Naruto === BUGabundo_Naruto is now known as BUGabundo [23:49] BUGabundo: I think it stays frozen until the toolchain uploads are complete [23:49] maybe