tsimpson | @config plugins.PackageInfo.defaultRelease lucid | 00:33 |
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Flannel | Pici: Your munin thing is missing about 10 people from #u and -r-p, is it a polling type thing? or what? | 04:39 |
Flannel | IdleOne: heh | 05:26 |
IdleOne | I saw :P | 05:26 |
IdleOne | he is not responding well | 05:29 |
IdleOne | leave him on mute for a while. he is nowhere near ready to calm down | 05:30 |
IdleOne | never been told to suck an egg before | 05:31 |
IdleOne | heh | 05:31 |
IdleOne | I asked him to come here when he is ready to discuss calmly | 05:34 |
IdleOne | Flannel: should I unmute yarkot? | 05:38 |
IdleOne | I suspect a rant and foul language will follow | 05:39 |
Flannel | IdleOne: no, you told him to come here when he's ready right? | 05:40 |
Flannel | ready to rejoin the channel, that is | 05:40 |
IdleOne | yes | 05:40 |
IdleOne | ok, will leave it | 05:40 |
Flannel | You could also turn mute into ban | 05:41 |
Flannel | quiets are more confusing, since you can join the channel, and most clients will show you as speaking | 05:41 |
Flannel | so, no one knows you're not speaking, etc. They can get forgotten | 05:41 |
IdleOne | so if I set a ban the quiet gets removed/superseeded? | 05:42 |
Flannel | ban, then remove quiet (or v.v.) | 05:42 |
IdleOne | v.v.? | 05:42 |
Flannel | If you have both a ban and a quiet set on a person, they can't speak or join the channel | 05:42 |
Flannel | vice-versa | 05:42 |
IdleOne | oh hehe | 05:43 |
IdleOne | ok | 05:43 |
Flannel | if you ban a person, they can't a) join the channel, b) speak in the channel (if they're already there) | 05:43 |
Flannel | so, a ban makes a mute redundant | 05:43 |
elky | I really wish for an ircd feature where redundant bans got overwritten, rather than replicated. | 05:47 |
IdleOne | man this client is failing or is it me | 05:47 |
bazhang | xchat? | 05:47 |
IdleOne | yes | 05:47 |
bazhang | using chanserv.py? | 05:48 |
IdleOne | yes | 05:48 |
bazhang | /cs u nickname after you /cs b nickname | 05:48 |
IdleOne | yeah I thought that is what I did | 05:50 |
jussi | Upgrade in progress. I wonder how slow its gonna be... | 06:10 |
jussi | oh, and good morning :D | 06:10 |
persia | good morning. Very slow. | 06:11 |
IdleOne | morning jussi | 06:13 |
jussi | persia: actually, doing ok ish, somewhere between 400 and 700 kb/s :) | 06:14 |
jussi | sitting on 564 currently | 06:14 |
jpds | jussi: You are using fi.archive right? | 06:31 |
jussi | jpds: I cant remember, Ive changed a few times | 06:32 |
jussi | although speed has dropped significantly now | 06:33 |
jpds | Current bandwidth utilization 627.32 Mbit/s | 06:33 |
jussi | we are down to 200kb/s now | 06:33 |
maco | the bot's still defaulting to karmic package versions instead of lucid ones on the !info call | 07:29 |
persia | I watched that setting be changed. Probably needs another thwack. | 07:29 |
bazhang | not here | 07:29 |
persia | [08:33] <tsimpson> @config plugins.PackageInfo.defaultRelease lucid | 07:30 |
persia | [08:33] <ubottu> The operation succeeded. | 07:30 |
IdleOne | works right here | 07:30 |
persia | maco: which bot? | 07:30 |
maco | ubottu | 07:30 |
maco | i just did "!info lyx" in #kubuntu and it returned the karmic version info instead of lucid | 07:30 |
bazhang | yep saw that. /msg ubottu works though | 07:31 |
* maco raises an eyebrow | 07:31 | |
maco | it gave IdleOne the lucid version in #ubuntu | 07:31 |
IdleOne | yup | 07:31 |
jussi | @config channel #kubuntu plugins.PackageInfo.defaultRelease | 07:46 |
ubottu | karmic | 07:46 |
jussi | @config channel #kubuntu plugins.PackageInfo.defaultRelease lucid | 07:46 |
ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 07:46 |
jussi | fixored | 07:46 |
jussi | maco: ^^ | 07:46 |
maco | jussi: thanks | 07:50 |
maco | jussi: by the way, how long does it usually take your quassel client to sync to the core? | 07:51 |
maco | mine takes about 10 minutes | 07:51 |
maco | oh and how much memory does top say quasselclient is using in the resident column? | 07:51 |
jussi | lo | 07:51 |
jussi | lol | 07:51 |
jussi | 2514 jussi 20 0 289m 89m 16m S 1 3.0 3:42.40 quasselclient | 07:52 |
maco | 13996 maco 20 0 782m 217m 42m S 1 5.5 4:57.87 quasselclient | 07:52 |
jussi | maco: about 20 seconds? | 07:52 |
jussi | maco: old version? | 07:52 |
maco | 0.6.1 | 07:52 |
maco | the one in lucid | 07:52 |
jussi | hrm | 07:52 |
jussi | weird | 07:52 |
jussi | thats pretty recent. | 07:52 |
jussi | mind, I should update the core I guess... | 07:53 |
jussi | maco: core restart coming soon. | 07:53 |
maco | how long is soon? | 07:54 |
jussi | soon as the build is finished (5 or 10 mins) | 07:54 |
maco | ok | 07:54 |
maco | whats your ping time for jussi01.com? | 07:54 |
maco | (possibly related to 20s v. 10m) | 07:54 |
persia | I find that my clients quit badly, and I end up running killall quasselclient every once in a while, which suddenly makes everything faster. | 07:56 |
jussi | icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=21.3 ms | 07:57 |
jussi | although its likely its that big because Im on ssh compiling atm. | 07:58 |
maco | jussi: "big" | 08:10 |
jussi | maco: ? | 08:10 |
maco | icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=141 ms | 08:10 |
jussi | lol | 08:10 |
jussi | maco: did the update help you connection time? | 08:11 |
maco | but yay that only took 5 minutes to sync | 08:11 |
jussi | hehe | 08:11 |
jussi | :D | 08:11 |
maco | after it says like 210ms lag, /then/ it finally starts moving from 0% backlog downloaded to 1% | 08:11 |
elky | is smb broken in lucid? i'm getting people tell me it is... | 08:23 |
gord | not broken here | 08:24 |
elky | 32 or 64? | 08:24 |
ikonia | not broken on 64 | 08:25 |
gord | erm not sure, smbfs running on 32 and 64bit clients fine, the server won't let me ssh in right now to check, i appear to have forgotten my private key on this machine | 08:26 |
elky | gord, <vox> if you browse the network, the share doesnt appear <vox> if you know the full smb path, it goes straight in | 08:30 |
gord | sounds to me like a broadcast setting | 08:36 |
topyli | only network problem i've had is my printer printing about 0.8 pages per minute | 08:38 |
dholbach | good morning | 08:43 |
ikonia | hello ogasawara_ | 09:14 |
ogasawara_ | ikonia: hi | 09:14 |
ikonia | ogasawara_: how can we help you today ? | 09:15 |
ogasawara_ | ikonia: I was under the impression I'm supposed to be on the channel being a new op (mainly for #ubuntu-kernel) | 09:15 |
ogasawara_ | ikonia: If that's not the case, I'm happy to drop from this channel | 09:16 |
ikonia | oooh, I don't know about #ubuntu-kernel | 09:16 |
ikonia | no no | 09:16 |
ikonia | I'm probably wrong | 09:16 |
* ikonia looks to the council if it's -ops or -irc | 09:16 | |
Tm_T | ogasawara_: feel free to stay until stated otherwise | 09:33 |
Tm_T | and welcome | 09:33 |
ogasawara_ | Tm_T: ok thanks | 09:33 |
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topyli | ogasawara, -kernel is not a core channel, so technically you're not required to idle here. idling on -irc is definitely a good idea | 09:37 |
ogasawara | topyli: ok cool, I'll switch then. thanks. | 09:37 |
Tm_T | topyli: we need to find out why they are directed here, I'd say | 09:38 |
topyli | ogasawara, pl | 09:38 |
topyli | oh, | 09:38 |
topyli | Tm_T, directed? | 09:43 |
elky | wow, -party has died already? | 09:51 |
elky | Tm_T, it's probably a case of "you should idle in the ops channel" without it being qualified as to /which/ ops channel. | 09:52 |
ikonia | elky: good | 09:58 |
elky | could just be that the US has gone to bed. | 09:59 |
ikonia | eithe way win | 09:59 |
ikonia | either | 09:59 |
elky | hey, i'm not complaining :P | 10:00 |
elky | Dammit. I jinxed it. | 10:11 |
elky | aww, it keeps undying | 12:04 |
elky | darn zombie channel. | 12:04 |
gord | there is one obvious solution. ircc needs to start supplying us with shotguns | 12:33 |
knome | don't forget the whips | 12:33 |
gord | thats for vampires | 12:34 |
Pici | Flannel: It polls every 5 minutes | 13:20 |
bazhang | jcbv trolling? | 14:06 |
Pici | What do you think? | 14:07 |
switchgirl | hi i want to complain about ubottu | 14:51 |
Pici | yes? | 14:51 |
switchgirl | it's not been programmed to know what time it is in the uk | 14:51 |
switchgirl | but most other places work fine | 14:51 |
Pici | Did you look at the URL that it gave you when you put in an invalid location? | 14:51 |
switchgirl | yeah but still | 14:52 |
Pici | switchgirl: The bot is still a computer program that takes parameters, it can't accept every sort of input. | 14:53 |
switchgirl | i said @now UK | 14:54 |
switchgirl | or @now Edinburgh | 14:54 |
switchgirl | @now London | 14:54 |
ubottu | Current time in Europe/London: April 30 2010, 14:54:20 | 14:54 |
switchgirl | it knows london.... that'll have to do... | 14:54 |
switchgirl | :s | 14:54 |
switchgirl | sorry | 14:54 |
linnylin | hey i need help asap i cant log into anything | 15:16 |
linnylin | i upgraded from 9.10 wiht auto update swaped vid cards from old tnt to geforce 2 now i cantg log in nor could i ever nor did it ever work screen was all sticky and messed up | 15:17 |
linnylin | dammit | 15:18 |
Pici | linnylin: This is the Ubuntu operators channel. It looks like you have been banned from #ubuntu | 15:19 |
Pici | Do you know why? | 15:19 |
linnylin | yeah cause im mad my 2 pcs are not working now | 15:19 |
linnylin | when they were working just fine yesterday | 15:19 |
Pici | And? | 15:20 |
linnylin | and what | 15:21 |
linnylin | thye banned me cause im pissed dude | 15:21 |
linnylin | i got sutff i need to be doing but i have to get thiese pcs up and running and | 15:21 |
linnylin | i dont appreciate that auto update thing breakign my pc | 15:22 |
linnylin | trying to upgrade to 10.04 if it dont work u should not have it up | 15:22 |
linnylin | and u darn shure dont need to be telling people to reccomend this to their friends they might kick your ass | 15:23 |
jpds | linnylin: You clearly did something wrong. | 15:24 |
linnylin | no i didnt | 15:24 |
linnylin | i followed the proceudres | 15:24 |
linnylin | dont blame me | 15:24 |
linnylin | yeah blame me for trusting that some things are free | 15:24 |
linnylin | look pal u wanna help me get my pcs running since u seem like an ubuntu official | 15:24 |
Pici | linnylin: Are you aware of our channel guidelines? | 15:25 |
linnylin | im not here for all that | 15:25 |
Pici | Then you won't be joining our support channels any time soon. | 15:25 |
linnylin | i just came in here ot get my pc back working lucking i hvae a lap top or i would be screwdd think of the people that dont | 15:25 |
linnylin | ok im aware of the guidlines can i get support now | 15:27 |
Pici | linnylin: So you understand what #ubuntu is for then? | 15:29 |
linnylin | i gotta figure out how to fix my pcs | 15:31 |
linnylin | guess i will go beat my dog | 15:31 |
bazhang | wow | 15:32 |
Pici | My patience was wearing thin there. | 15:33 |
jrib | shame, they could share what went wrong so that it doesn't happen next time but instead... | 15:41 |
ubottu | tarzeau called the ops in #ubuntu () | 15:59 |
ubottu | In #ubuntu-bots, blendmaster1024 said: !the cake is a lie | 16:13 |
ikonia | ubottu tell blendmaster1024 your factoid is a lie | 16:13 |
ubottu | I'll remember that, ikonia | 16:13 |
bazhang | hehe | 16:13 |
Pici | hah | 16:13 |
ikonia | ??? err no, tell him not remember it | 16:13 |
Pici | ubottu: forget tell blendmaster1024 your factoid | 16:14 |
ubottu | I'll forget that, Pici | 16:14 |
jrib | so what was the record yesterday? | 17:31 |
tsimpson | the highest when I checked was ~2015 | 17:46 |
tsimpson | but I wasn't watching closely | 17:46 |
ikonia | ughhh typing on this phone is tough | 18:01 |
ikonia | if there was free wifi I could use my ipod | 18:01 |
* gnomefreak uses phone to make and recieve phone calls :) | 18:07 | |
gnomefreak | 1769 | 18:07 |
gnomefreak | a little down from last time i looked | 18:08 |
Pici | jrib: Peak for #ubuntu@freenode: 2120 (Thu Apr 29 13:32:40 2010) | 18:27 |
MTecknology | I just don't get this... damn, hell, friggin, etc. are ok to use. but eff isn't. Could you guys explain this to me? | 18:47 |
MTecknology | I just want to understand where the heck the line is because it went from being hazy to completely obscure. | 18:48 |
IdleOne | damn hell and friggin shouldn't be ok to use either | 18:49 |
MTecknology | IdleOne: I just got told to watch my language for using 'eff'. Rather than arguing there I want to ask here. | 18:49 |
IdleOne | gimme a minute MTecknology I got a phone call | 18:50 |
MTecknology | ok | 18:50 |
IdleOne | MTecknology, sorry bout that | 19:00 |
IdleOne | important call, couldn't hang up | 19:00 |
IdleOne | ok so it is pretty simple actually. cursing is not allowed (you know that already) obfuscated cursing is just as bad as the real thing | 19:01 |
MTecknology | IdleOne: they happen - without a doubt more important than this | 19:01 |
IdleOne | MTecknology, glad you understand priorities :) | 19:01 |
IdleOne | so anyway, if I say F you for example | 19:01 |
IdleOne | or eff you | 19:02 |
MTecknology | then how is friggin ok? that's obfuscation of fucking | 19:02 |
IdleOne | you know exactly what it means right | 19:02 |
IdleOne | it isn't | 19:02 |
MTecknology | I see that somewhat frequently in ubuntu channels | 19:02 |
IdleOne | but the ops are not always around and there is no rule saying that you can't enforce the rules also | 19:02 |
MTecknology | I get lectured if I try to hit on things - I stopped helping in #ubuntu because of that | 19:03 |
IdleOne | hit on things? | 19:03 |
MTecknology | tell somebody not to swear or yell | 19:03 |
IdleOne | Well, important thing is to try and enforce the rules but not seem like "it's my way or the highway" | 19:04 |
IdleOne | then there is also common sense that comes into play and knowing when to let some things slide | 19:04 |
MTecknology | I can see myself doing that a little bit. I'm a pretty strict person.. | 19:05 |
IdleOne | MTecknology, I am also. often times I have to stop myself from hitting the send key :/ | 19:05 |
MTecknology | I had a dream once where I wrote a script so any swearing in all of irc granted a kick :P | 19:06 |
MTecknology | Not to mention some really off the wall dreams from just this morning... but ot | 19:06 |
IdleOne | haha, yeah sometimes I thing the floodbots should have something like that for repeat offenders | 19:07 |
IdleOne | s/thing/think | 19:07 |
MTecknology | I'm also curious - since we're on this.. | 19:07 |
MTecknology | how is it that damn and hell are ok? | 19:07 |
IdleOne | this is how I see it, if there is something you can not say in front of strangers while in line at a bank. Don't say it on irc :) | 19:08 |
MTecknology | or is that one of those things where it's just easier to let it slide? | 19:08 |
IdleOne | they aren't either but would you prefer we make a list of words that are not allowed or ask you nicely to use your judgement? | 19:09 |
MTecknology | In addition to being strict- I'm also very open and opinionated :P | 19:09 |
MTecknology | that's not me - I see damn and hell used VERY frequently in -ot | 19:09 |
MTecknology | in irc I don't use those - except for here because we're discussing it.. | 19:10 |
IdleOne | Like I said before you can say something if those words make you uncomfortable. | 19:10 |
IdleOne | We are all expected to follow and apply the guidelines and code of conduct, not just the ops and leadersd of Ubuntu but all users | 19:10 |
MTecknology | I do, and I've asked an op to say something, I've mentioned it in the mailing list - and each time I'm told they're fine | 19:11 |
IdleOne | MTecknology, maybe something to bring up to the IRCC at the next meeting ? | 19:11 |
IdleOne | just so we can get clarification | 19:11 |
MTecknology | will do- I should be able to make it | 19:12 |
IdleOne | MTecknology, add it to the agenda | 19:12 |
MTecknology | ok | 19:12 |
MTecknology | one other thing... care if I query? | 19:13 |
IdleOne | ask away | 19:13 |
MTecknology | unless you want to hop into #ubuntu-drupal where it's relevant | 19:13 |
IdleOne | up to you. /msg, in here, or there | 19:13 |
AcePreshaw | ikonia | 20:07 |
AcePreshaw | ? | 20:07 |
ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, look said: !the cake is a lie | 23:10 |
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