[00:01] have you looked at top? [00:03] yeap, Lucid have much less process runing, and the one wich is using more is -bash 0.7% and 3x rsyslogd using 0.4% [00:19] smoser: I found that if a download was slow from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/ I could just interrupt the connection, try again, and eventually get a far faster rate. Different download connections of the same file performed consistently at 2KB/s, 200KB/s, and even 2MB/s. [00:21] erichammond, its just the release. [00:21] bandwidth to data center is bottlenecked. [00:22] smoser: Yes, but I was surprised that I could get far higher speeds if I just kept retrying. [00:22] smoser: not optimal for the whole population, unfortunately. [00:22] :) [00:22] yeah. [00:22] random i guess. === Wandrewvious is now known as WALoeIII [00:25] erichammond, this isn't published, but provides a mirror of those tar files [00:25] http://ubuntu-data.s3.amazonaws.com/ [00:26] "isn't published" as in isn't written anywhere. i just use it for loading things to ebs. [00:28] smoser: Thanks. Doesn't appear to have Karmic and Hardy which are what I'm trying to copy now. [00:29] smoser: I've got two of the four files and am still working on the remainder. [00:31] smoser: I get 2K/s about 9/10 times and then 400K/s-2M/s which completes quickly and then has some sort of error on the disconnect throwing away the file 4/5 times. [00:45] hi, i cant get dhcp3 to send out a dhcpnak... [00:45] it refuses almost all win7 machines [00:46] as they dont send a dhcpdiscover right away [00:46] it seems stuck in non-authoritative mode, even if i have authoritative in config file === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:26] New bug: #571960 in bind9 (main) "bind9 installation and dnsutils binaries crash due to libdns.so.64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571960 [01:46] So, when I try to do git-daemon --listen=git.my.host or svnserve --listen-host=svn.my.host, I'm told the requested socket cannot be allocated - so I guess I am doing something wrong that has nothing to do with svn or git? [01:58] mikelifeguard: most likely you are running it as non-root and trying to use a port < 1024 [01:58] Git uses 9418 though :s [01:59] I forget what svnserve is [01:59] or maybe you are trying to use a port that's already in use [01:59] hm, that's possible... let's check... === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [02:04] no, doesn't look like the ports are in use === bladernr is now known as bladernr_ === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [02:56] kirkland: yep, ill take a look [02:57] kirkland: i agree with soren, it would be much more useful to have the total cost, i just didn't have a way of determining time since creation === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [03:34] Any reason a group name can't be all numeric? === funkyHat is now known as funkyWhat [03:45] AdamDV: You may have a chance of confusing the group-name vs. GID detector for some commands, but it may be no issue at all. [03:47] Well, I tried it. [03:47] And then when I tried to add a user to the group, it told me the group doesn't exist. [03:47] So, I'm thinking it wont work. [03:52] I need some opinions on making a few VPSs, such as on a small/personal scale....would virtualbox be the way to go? === funkyWhat is now known as funkyHat [03:52] I was looking at the cloud server, but that's a two computer minimum setup. [04:06] KVM is the virtualization technology that Ubuntu endorses. [04:08] twb, Well, I looked at that, but it looked rather complicated and required virtualization to be enabled on the CPU. [04:09] It doesn't. It just falls back to being less efficient if it's not. [04:10] And while it can be complicated, I find the combination of virt-manager on a desktop and the virtualisation server task on a server to be trivially easy to use. Just tell the server to create some VMs, and they just work. [04:10] Oh, I gotcha. I guess I'll give it another look, I was just curious about how to do it on a small scale. [04:11] persia: hmm, I didn't realize that the kvm fork of qemu worked *at all* without hardware VT [04:11] twb: It most certainly does. Works on my powerpc, for instance, and I'm not running a new enough kernel to use KVM on that. [04:12] persia, Nice, thank you. I'll definitely give it another look. I installed and ran two virtual machines with VirtualBox, but I wasn't convinced that was very efficient. Plus I'm not sure VirtualBox can be ran on Server edition. [04:12] I always just explicitly installed the qemu variant. [04:12] There was a period when it didn't (jaunty, I think, and maybe intrepid as well), but that's behind us. [04:12] (You may recall yesterday I was bitching about trying to get qemu 0.12 onto hardy.) [04:12] persia: thanks for letting me know [04:12] Sorry to not mention it before: I thought your issue was the backporting, not the variant. [04:14] I'm trying to reverse-proxy requests to a Jetty server with http://sprunge.us/IDDf - but I only get http://sprunge.us/YgKH telling me the proxy is being disabled. Have I configured it incorrectly? [04:18] hey dudes, i am getting the weirdest problem [04:18] apparently my raid5 just formed another partition? [04:18] and i can't mount the orignal md [04:19] this is after upgrading to 10.04 without the raid drives turned on (because grub is retarded like that) [04:19] er, more like putting a new system drive in the computer and installing 10.04 [04:19] persia: it was a hodge-podge of issues and hubris [04:19] Don't worry about it [04:20] On an unrelated note: where can I find a copy of putty.exe on a host that doesn't use vhosting? [04:20] The box I'm trying to get putty onto has broken DNS [04:21] and annoyingly i just had this thing mounted prior to a restart === brianherman_ is now known as brianherman === mikelifeguard is now known as Mike||gone === Mike||gone is now known as mikelifeguard [06:19] Does anyone here use KVM? [06:20] daily [06:20] persia, Ahhh! You're still around. [06:21] persia, I just had a quick question.... are all of the steps outlined across the top at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking neccessary? [06:21] My response before looking is "No". [06:22] * persia looks [06:22] persia, It has "Installation" "Networking" "Create Guests"..... [06:22] Yep. I've never done any of that. [06:22] I'm on Networking ATM and this is a major ordeal. [06:23] persia, What approach do you take? [06:23] Do you need a real network, or are you happy just to have your server have client access to the internet, and be able to ssh to it from the host? [06:23] * persia has fairly minor requirements, so doesn't tend to do complex stuff [06:23] It doesn't really matter. [06:24] I've done everything on the Installation page. [06:24] OK. So, here's the quick'n'dirty way I generate VMs for throwaway test servers: [06:25] anyone using mdadm in 10.04? [06:25] !anyone [06:25] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [06:25] lol [06:25] 1) install libvirt-bin on the host, 2) install virt-manager on some headful client, 3) copy some installation iso to /var/lib/libvirt/images/ on the client, 4) launch virt-manager, 5) connect to the host, 6) use the wizard to create a new vm (selecting "local storage" and the install iso), 7) run an install, 8) reboot the VM, 9) do whatever it was I wanted to do in the first place, and usually 10) delete the VM when I'm done. [06:25] i treid earlier [06:26] tried, even [06:27] amereservant: Note that this procedure is not necessarily best practice, takes longer than some other procedures, and fails firmly in the "works for me" category. [06:27] persia, " on some headful client..." What do you mean? I installed it in the installation steps. [06:27] I tend to run virt-manager on my laptop because I find the GUI handy, and don't have any screens or keyboards attached to my servers. [06:28] persia, Ohhh, gotcha. I'm doing this all inside of Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop. [06:29] amereservant: All on one machine? Then do everything on one machine. That works too. I just tend to use multiple machines because that avoids my laptop running slow when I have a couple VMs launched. [06:30] persia, Yeah, it's a workhorse. I wanted to try it out since you recommended it earlier and I've got two PCs on the network ATM, so I wanted to do some tinkering. [06:33] hi there, i am installing the cups driver for samba. Im in the first step i juat download the driver from cups web page (cups-windows-6.0-1.i386.rpm). Im not sure how to install it, somebody know how install it or where decompress the files? === FireCrotch_ is now known as FireCrotch [06:43] persia, Hmmm, no luck. It just goes to a black screen when I open it. [06:43] *using Virtual Machine Manager. [06:43] What goes to a black screen when you open which? [06:43] Does it support Lucid? [06:43] Works for me on lucid. [06:44] Ok, here's what I did. [06:45] I opened up Virtual Machine Manager, clicked "File > Add Connection", Selected Hypervisor "QEMU/KVM", Connection "Local" and then pressed Connect...... [06:46] OK. Did it connect? [06:46] I right-clicked on localhost(QEMU) and selected "New", then gave a name for it and selected Local install media... [06:46] (yes) OK. Had you copied the iso, and could you select it properly? [06:47] Step 2 I located the ISO file for Server10.04 64-bit, and tried leaving the settings on Generic or Linux Ubuntu Etch, then clicked forward.... [06:47] OK. [06:47] Gave it 1GB RAM, 2 CPUs.... [06:48] Created a 10GB drive for it and Allocate entire disk now.... [06:48] Then clicked "Finished"..... [06:49] It says it's "Running", so I then I double-clicked it and it opens a window and it's just blank. [06:49] OK. Wait some. [06:49] If nothing happens, verify your iso. [06:50] I usually end up with the initial boot screen (select language, etc.) after a bit. [06:50] I've installed it 3 times in VirtualBox with no issues using that ISO, so it's not that. [06:50] Hrm. That's a close match to the procedure I use that works. Dunno. [06:51] persia, This is how I installed it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation [06:52] Anything look off about that? [06:52] Everything passed in those steps. [06:52] I don't see anything obviously wrong about that. I didn't do anything except install libvirt-bin, personally, but the rest shouldn't hurt anything. [06:53] Well isn't that just fancy. [06:55] I'm going to install and try the AQEMU package and see if that gets me anywhere. [06:58] OK. Good luck. [06:58] persia, Thank you for your help anyways. It's not that big of a deal since I'm just learning. [07:11] hi how can I move a mysql database to a new server? moving /var/lib/mysql/foobar to the new server and restarting mysql didnt do the trick [07:12] rahman, mysqldump [07:12] Copying the data files is the wrong way of doing it. [07:13] rahman, If you have phpmyadmin, you can easily dump all of them using "Export". [07:13] rahman, But mysqldump is very easy and the recommended way of doing it. [07:14] amereservant: will I need to do "mysqldump foobar" ? [07:14] rahman, Try "man mysqldump" for how to use it. [07:15] amereservant: thanks [07:15] rahman, You can also find "how-tos" with a quick google search, I don't know off the top of my head though. [07:16] 9608852 [07:16] Woops, that's not a form! [07:17] Hehe. [07:40] And I have one more question, I need to move the mail server to a new machine. It is postfix, dovecort and libsasl2 installed and webmail as frontend [07:41] again I installed postfix, dovecort and libsasl and copied all config files from old machine like /etc/postfix/* [07:44] the problem is webmail frontend errors about "can't connect to POP3 server" [08:01] New bug: #572080 in net-snmp (main) "package snmpd 5.4.2.1~dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572080 [08:41] hey guys has anyone run an Urban Terror server before? [08:44] rahman: is the pop3 daemon running? [08:49] guys can anyone help me in running Urban Terror on my server? I get permission errors [08:56] New bug: #571933 in dhcp3 (main) "dhclient3 hangs on shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571933 [08:57] kk [09:02] morning [09:03] is it possible to get the total file size of an extracted archive, without extracting it? [09:05] i'm trying to do a remote install on a server that already has grub (i'm replacing a different distro with ubuntu) [09:05] can the instructions here be used for an ubuntu server install like this? [09:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet [09:07] i couldn't find any ubuntu-server specific initrd.gz or linux fille [09:10] i took the netboot files from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/ === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ [09:24] kirkland,hggdh: there's a truly ancient bug about the image names being the same in several places, but frankly I'd rather leave them as they are and have clients work around it [09:24] it's been established for 5+ years and I'm pretty sure some folks depend on the current structure :) [09:26] is there a separate netboot install for ubuntu-server? [09:26] i really don't have physical access to this machine and the normal PXE/bootp method is very difficult at the moment [09:27] i am trying to recover my software raid. when i do --examine on sda1 it shows 2 failed drives. when i do --examine on sdc1 (one of the failed drives) it shows all drives are functioning properly [09:27] but this the netboot install from the internet is working great so far [09:28] but i'm just not sure what ubuntu flavor this is doing [09:29] zorzar: dovecot doen't start. it gives : dovecot: Fatal: auth(default): User doesn't exist: vmail and Fatal: Auth process died too early - shutting down [09:30] so webmail users can send mail but can't recieve any [09:34] why would --examine return 2 different results on 2 different drives? [09:54] can anbody help me [09:54] i was wondering... can I use the enterprise cloud version on Lan based [09:55] i want to deploy web apps on local but soon on cloud... is it advisable to choose enterprise cloud [09:57] anybody here [10:12] gerardnetro: uh have you tried s3? [10:12] nope im new here :[ [10:12] gerardnetro: ok [10:12] but is it possible it will work on Lan [10:13] for now [10:13] gerardnetro: what are you trying to do [10:13] i want to host vtiger [10:13] via lan for now [10:13] why do you need cloud for this? [10:13] but soon ill ready it for cloud [10:13] uh [10:13] have you ever used it? [10:14] because i want some other branches to access it [10:14] nope [10:14] first time [10:14] ok [10:14] First things first [10:14] you need to install it on a server [10:14] and learn how to use it [10:14] cloud is just a buzzword [10:14] it doesn't instantly mean that your stuff is going to get faster [10:14] but im already installing enterprise cloud [10:15] ok [10:15] so i cancel it? [10:15] no [10:15] it doesn't really matter [10:15] oh ok [10:15] just if you expect it to get instantly faster [10:15] what happens if we lost internet connection.. and im using cloud [10:15] ok [10:16] you are building the cloud [10:16] not renting from somewhere [10:16] right [10:16] yes [10:16] so you have your own personal cloud [10:16] cause soon i want some of the agent to access their vtiger account ... on cloud [10:16] even if you lose internet connection [10:16] you have a cloud [10:17] ok [10:17] is cloud = host? [10:17] This way is probably harder but better because you have an offline backup. [10:17] Cloud = your own personal s3 [10:17] Good parts [10:18] You have root access [10:18] no latency [10:18] bad parts [10:18] oh but i can host web application? [10:18] yes [10:18] you can do whatever the @#$% you want [10:18] great [10:18] but expect to have issues [10:18] i have never done the enterprise cloud [10:19] well have a training later [10:19] on Enterprise cloud [10:19] Good luck [10:19] so issues will not be a problem... i hope [10:19] well i am a believer in murphys law [10:20] oh :[ [10:21] but I also suffer from depression [10:21] so [10:21] ... [10:21] dont listen to me [10:21] just do it [10:21] ok... [10:21] You will learn a lot this way. [10:21] but most of the time.. when i encounter errors, i can solve it :) [10:21] i use google :) [10:21] ya [10:21] thats good [10:22] well i have to fix my computer [10:22] brb [10:25] Hello, .... has anyone an Idea when the Lucid Server Guide will be available? on the http://is.gd/bOgc3 site there still is 9.10 as the lates guide ... *hrmpf* [11:08] is there any one that has Dovecot experience? === swift__ is now known as swift [11:17] Hi - will a standard do-release-upgrade take me from lucid RC to current release? [11:24] hi [11:24] how to check all open ports on an machine from another machine ? [11:28] maxagaz apt-get install nmap && man nmap [11:29] or [11:29] ray__, I have nmap... [11:29] google for nessus [11:29] ray__, do you know the nmap command to get it ? === wolle is now known as wtfplymouth [11:31] maxagaz, If you do not know nmap, either use man nmap or i guess it is better for you to use nessus (which as a graphical gui) http://www.nessus.org [11:31] s/as/has/g [11:32] ray__, I use nmap for one port, but don't the syntax for allports [11:35] maxagaz, ok, just type "man nmap" without the quotes in the terminal, right there on the first page is one fast example of how to scan for multiple ports, and further down are more detailed instructions on how to be sure all ports you want to have checked are included [11:35] ray__, it'sokay I found a tool to do it on ubuntu desktop [11:36] New bug: #572204 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572204 [11:37] maxagaz, maybe you are better of in the standard #ubuntu channel for questions like this, in the ubuntu-server channel one requirement is to be able to and understand the man-pages .... [11:37] ray__, you mean this... nmap -A -T4 scanme.nmap.org [11:37] ray__, ok, thanks [11:37] maxagaz, as an example, yes [11:38] ray__, it's always better to know of a command to do this, thanks [11:38] np [11:38] New bug: #572210 in samba (main) "Error in installing samba-common during upgrade from Karmic to Lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572210 === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [12:05] why is the login line in the middle of the screen? [12:06] ? [12:07] ? [12:07] hi everybody... a "newbie" question: shall I run the "dist upgrade" command to upgrade from karmic to lucid server? Is there any problem mentiond ? (my karmic server installation has no more software than ssh, webmin, cups and samba serer) [12:09] alexxtasi, the recommended way is: http://is.gd/bOmk8 [12:10] check network upgrade for ubuntu servers [12:14] ray__: thanks ray... are there any problems reported? I 'll try... [12:16] New bug: #572229 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.6 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572229 [12:18] is it possible or not dangerous to uninstall plymouth? [12:20] wtfplymouth, why? [12:20] wtfplymouth, it's a central part of ubuntu, afaik, so why do you want to deinstall it? [12:21] New bug: #572232 in samba (main) "package samba-common-bin 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572232 [12:23] ray__: just thougt about it. disabled the bootsplash and now the login line is in the middle of the screen [12:23] alexxtasi, other problems than in the release-notes? I am sure there will be a few but ssh, webmin, cups should be fine, samba thought seems to have some issues, like the bugs https://launchpad.net/bugs/572210 [12:23] Launchpad bug 572210 in samba "Error in installing samba-common during upgrade from Karmic to Lucid" [Undecided,New] [12:24] and how can i get all the boot massages back? [12:24] thank you all... [12:24] and https://launchpad.net/bugs/572229 seem to predict, so, i would rather make a testupgrade in a virtual machine or be prepared to fix stuff manually, if you can't do A and are not skilled enough for B I would wait a month or two to let the fist bugs settle, i do not see you having the NEED to upgrade right now with cups and samba [12:24] Launchpad bug 572229 in samba "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.6 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] [12:24] like starting samba [OK] ... [12:25] wtfplymouth, as far as I could READ through the RELEASE NOTES and other documentation all the bootmessages are on Console 7 and in /var/log/boot.log [12:26] ray__: so its not possible to get them on screen during startup [12:27] I'l guess not, thought not been playing around with it, in reality I do not care as most of my machines are virtualized anyway, so it really does not help me to see the messages right on boot, so, why do you care about those messages anyway? [12:29] ray__: just to see if one of them failes during boot ;) [12:29] could someone with ldap exerience please comment on bug #572105 and what the best course for this is? I'm fine adding something to u-m, but would prefer somehting in the package(s) [12:29] Launchpad bug 572105 in update-manager "update-manager doesn't prevent restart of slapd on system using ldap auth, resulting in hung update" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572105 [12:29] wtfplymouth, well, you should be able to check that when you have the loginprompt, switch to console 7 (ALT+F7) and you should be able to browse through ... [12:30] ray__: but this istnt really a problem the real problem is that the server doesnt skip mountproblems during boot [12:30] like 9.10 did [12:31] wtfplymouth, as I read in the RELEASE NOTES or in some of the documentation it should be easy, there are some key bindings you can press to skip mount stuff and ignore stuff etc. You should read it [12:32] ray__: you have to press s to skip but the problem is thats a headless server und the boot stops till you press s. so you cannot login per ssh [12:32] and why does it hang? [12:34] ray__: cuz the disk is not connected and there is an entry for this disk in the fstab. but i want it to automount the disk when its connectet so i cannot delete the fstab entry [12:34] mvo, i think I read in the release notes that you can install nscd (name service caching daemon) which should cache all your credentials (better to log out and in again afterwards) so the shutdown of ldap should not be a problem, but I advise you to read the release notes yourself before trying that. [12:34] ray__: i need something like autoskip this errors [12:36] wtfplymouth, I think you won't get it, at least without me knowing the internals of plymouth I can not provide you with a better answer, maybe you should investigate in a proper automount solution like autofs or autofs5 or pmount, pmount is easy to setup and allows you mounts as normal user ... [12:36] New bug: #572105 in update-manager (main) "update-manager doesn't prevent restart of slapd on system using ldap auth, resulting in hung update" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572105 [12:36] as well the package automounter exists ... [12:40] ray__: thanks [12:42] ray__: thanks too [12:42] np === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [13:15] cjwatson: okay, in that case, we'll try to somehow work around it [13:16] cjwatson: what if cdimage produced a full manifest of the ISOs it hosts? [13:17] cjwatson: just a tab delimited text file of full paths to ISOs, and text descriptions of each? [13:17] cjwatson: it wouldn't take much, and i'm happy to write the shell code to do this on cdimage (if something doesn't already exist) [13:18] cjwatson: not much more than a find . -type f -name "*.iso" [13:18] cjwatson: and some mapping of paths to text descriptions [13:20] kirkland: already does for releases.u.c, probably just a matter of extending it [13:20] cjwatson: ah, yeah, so that "flat" structure that releases uses... that's what i'd like to see for testdrive [13:21] cjwatson: s/ubuntu-10.04/lucid/ [13:21] cjwatson: could be handled entirely with symlinks/hardlinks even [13:21] no plans to change the structure of cdimage [13:21] happy to emit a manifest if that helps [13:21] changing the structure is an utter royal pain [13:21] cjwatson: alrighty, i 'll take the manifest ;-) [13:22] smoser: heya [13:22] hi [13:22] smoser: I wonder whether you considered gzip's --rsyncable for the UEC tarballs [13:22] kirkland: file me a bug on the ubuntu-cdimage project? [13:22] cjwatson: in fact, i'm glad that you're not willing to change the structure of cdimage, as testdrive greatly depends on that structure [13:22] i think it uses it [13:22] do you know otherwise ? [13:22] cjwatson: will do [13:23] cjwatson: thanks! [13:23] smoser: I wonder why the rsync "virtual" bandwidth is so low when rsyncing the image here [13:23] it is much lower than for binary data like kernels [13:23] it's almost as if it redownloads everything [13:25] smoser: Anyway, if you say it's already in use then there's probably nothing we can do [13:26] New bug: #572262 in nut (main) "libusb_get_report: error sending control message: Operation not permitted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572262 [13:26] smoser: thanks! [13:26] lool, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/automated-ec2-builds/annotate/head%3A/build-ec2-image uses 'gzip-rsyncable' (also in that directory) [13:26] which, i can't see how would not get there. [13:26] lool, i think that the images are just very dense [13:26] at least thats been my explanation before, and i have noticed this too. [13:27] i just thought that with the tar -S and gzip that the size just is really small and ends up not working well with rsync. [13:27] but thats all guessing. [13:29] hey guys, what's up with the 10.04 Server Guide? [13:31] smoser: This all seems correct to me, I guess we can't have it any better [13:31] smoser: Hmm alternatively what could happen is that the files are not in the same order over runs [13:31] well, they're probably not, right ? [13:31] its a filesystem [13:31] with files in it [13:31] smoser: What I'm saying is that tar might pick up files in ramdom orders from the chroot where you prepare the fs [13:32] ideally, these would be sorted in the tarball [13:32] tar doesn't pick up files other than '.img, kernel, ramdisk' [13:32] .img is a 2GB file with a filesystem in it. [13:32] smoser: I'm speaking of the other tar [13:32] Oh ok [13:32] then it's probably the fs being completely different over different runs [13:33] so thats almost certainly it. [13:33] right. [13:33] writes just went to other places in the filesystem. [13:33] I guess the only way aounr that is using a fs level dump like dumpe2fs, but I'm not sure this would be a good idea [13:33] or using tarballs of the files [13:34] smoser: Ok; thanks for discussion; would be nice to fix for rsync users, but it's not that big and I dont think many people rsync this stuff [13:34] i never really thought about it like this before. [13:39] New bug: #533904 in lm-sensors-3 (main) "sensors-detect: no driver for AMD K10 thermal sensors yet (dup-of: 316257)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533904 [13:40] smoser: BTW I was curious whether setting GZIP in the env with --rsyncable would work instead of using a custom program, and it does [13:42] New bug: #572281 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572281 === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [14:08] New bug: #406584 in kvm (main) "CVE 2009-2287: does not validate the page table root in a KVM_SET_SREGS call" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406584 [14:14] greetings how can i scan for open ports ? [14:15] you could use a web browser [14:16] !info nmap | oru_work [14:16] oru_work: nmap (source: nmap): The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 5.00-3 (lucid), package size 1551 kB, installed size 6180 kB [14:17] New bug: #430879 in backuppc (main) "BackupPC_sendEmail is missing a "use" directive to support encode." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430879 [14:20] damn ubuntu servers are so slow right now [14:21] New bug: #572317 in image-store-proxy (main) "image-store does not support images without a ramdisk" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572317 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:30] cjwatson: OK, we will work around the image names. Thank you [14:33] well gb.archieve is saturated, there used to be an apt tool to find the fastest local mirror [14:37] good old university of kent [14:47] are custom init scripts still a valid way to start & stop services in 10.04? === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [14:55] is it recommended to upgrade my distro? [15:31] New bug: #572370 in clamav (main) "package clamav-base 0.95.3 dfsg-1ubuntu0.09.10.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572370 [15:42] the libmozjs-dev package no longer seems to be available in 10.4. can anyone enlighten me? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:14] tty1 hangs or crashes on my installation - I never get a console prompt. tty2...n working fine. Suggestions on what to look at? [16:16] New bug: #572395 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: podproces instalovaný post-installation skript vrátil chybový status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572395 [16:17] I wish there was a way I could smash more information into the error from dpkg for the bogus hostname case [16:17] maybe exit 55 or some such [16:17] :-) [16:25] lamont: apport hook? [16:25] zul: meh [16:25] but yeah, that might do it [16:26] New bug: #572411 in openssh (main) "/etc/init.d/sshd should check for root" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572411 [16:26] then we could just have the hook tell the admin that he picked an invalid name for his computer [16:26] postfix is on the list for apport-hooks for maverick [16:27] New bug: #572410 in samba (main) "nmbd doesn't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572410 [16:34] lamont: yesterday I had somebody with a "hostname" with a space in it :-( [16:37] JanC: exactly [16:37] the other slightly meaner one I did is you can't tell postfix that mydomain={debian.org,ubuntu.com} [16:37] because, well, NO [16:38] and if you actually run one of those domains, you know how to deal with the block [16:40] lamont: apparently somehow ubiquity allowed hostnames with spaces in karmic... :-( [16:53] there have always been ways to have invalid hostnames. it's a question of definitions [16:57] lamont: the rfc text for hostnames should be pretty definitive ;) [16:59] yeah, but if the machine isn't on the network, then who cares. [16:59] see 70+% of the windows machines, which let you pick all sorts of weird stuff [17:02] Is it possible to host multiple virtual machines running Apache on port 80 with one external IP? [17:04] And if so, how do you route the traffic on the host computer? [17:06] chillindave: use a reverse proxy or such ? [17:07] JanC, Oh, gotcha. === AntORG_ is now known as AntORG [17:13] if i have "start on started _x_" in an upstart script, will it also shut down before _x_? [17:15] hey, i cannot get dhcp3-server to reply to dhcpinform, no dhcpack is sent by the server and the client remains with the misconfigured ip [17:15] this is very annoying for clients with windows7 as it seems win7 does not send dhcpdiscover packets [17:17] Anyone had any problems with PHP and Apache in the latest 10.04? Did a upgrade and now the server wants to save my php file rather than parse it. But it is not all the time though... === RoAk is now known as roaksoax === roaksoax is now known as RoAkSoAx [17:18] What do I need to configure and where in the apache2 config?? [17:18] martinjh99, If it's prompting you to download it, it's because php isn't running or isn't configured correctly. [17:18] Dave thing is though it was before the upgrade to 10.04... [17:18]