[01:38] <irv_> anyone know if i can install the audio packages after the install?
[01:38] <irv_> i accidently hit enter cause i wasn't thinking instead of space
[01:38] <irv_> and that was that
[01:38] <irv_> lol
[01:38] <irv_> so it's installing with none of the added packages now
[01:40] <rlameiro> irv_: yes you can
[01:40] <rlameiro> on synaptics search for ubunutstudio
[01:41] <irv_> how do i isolate just the audio packages?
[01:41] <rlameiro> and then you install the metapackages that suit your needs
[01:41] <rlameiro> ubuntustudio-audio
[01:41] <irv_> kk
[01:41] <irv_> thx
[01:41] <rlameiro> and ubuntustudio-plugins
[01:41] <rlameiro> search for it you will get it
[01:41] <irv_> cheers
[01:41] <rlameiro> irv_: hang around the channel :D
[01:42] <irv_> i will :p
[01:42] <irv_> i'm on freenode anyways
[01:42] <rlameiro> you never know when you can help someone
[01:42] <irv_> mhm
[01:42] <irv_> i'll probably have more questions too anyways ;p
[01:42] <rlameiro> you always can help
[01:42] <rlameiro> even making the right questions is help :D
[01:44] <irv_> roger that. i'll let you know how this install works out
[01:45] <irv_> do any of you do a lot of sequencing? drum or otherwise?
[01:45] <irv_> i'm trying to figure out what the best solution for sequencing songs is, it looks like rosegarden..
[01:45] <irv_> but perhaps there's something out there that i haven't stumbled across hehe
[01:56] <rlameiro> irv_: qtracktor
[01:57] <rlameiro> doenst do score, but it works ok
[01:57] <rlameiro> and it supports jacktransport, so you can sync it with ardour trhoug jack
[02:05] <rlameiro> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftek.sapo.pt%2Fnoticias%2Finternet%2Fpirataria_pode_ser_amiga_da_cultura_1061712.html&sl=pt&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
[02:10] <irv_> oh sweet
[02:12] <rlameiro> lol
[05:21] <c3l> what practical implications does realtime kernel have?
[05:28] <holstein> he c3l
[05:28] <holstein> hey*
[05:28] <holstein> do you record audio?
[05:29] <holstein> real-time kernels give lower latency
[05:29] <holstein> useful for example if you have a MIDI keyboard connected
[05:29] <holstein> and you press the key
[05:30] <holstein> if you have high latency
[05:30] <holstein> you can hear the sound after you press the key
[05:30] <holstein> OR if your overdubbing
[05:30] <holstein> and you play along with a track you have already recorded
[05:31] <holstein> when your playing, your lined up
[05:31] <holstein> BUT when you listen back
[05:31] <holstein> you'll be late by however much the latency is
[05:47]  * Blank__ wonders if someone should update the topic to mention the release of the 10.04 LTS
[05:50] <holstein> can jussi do that?
[06:00]  * _guitarman_ installing low-latency kernel
[06:00] <_guitarman_> from ppa
[06:02] <holstein> hey gniourf_gniourf
[06:02] <holstein> OOPS
[06:03] <_guitarman_> heheh
[06:03] <holstein> _guitarman_: ^^
[06:03] <_guitarman_> tab fail
[06:03] <_guitarman_> :)
[06:03] <holstein> how did the generic kernel do?
[06:03] <_guitarman_> ok... i'd like to see if i can push things a bit more so trying low-latency
[06:03] <_guitarman_> also watching lsd's tutorials to help with tunestorm while waiting for it to install
[06:04] <holstein> OH yeah
[06:04] <holstein> i think im just going to do it the old fashioned way
[06:04] <_guitarman_> oh yeah?
[06:04] <_guitarman_> without samples
[06:04] <_guitarman_> play them live?
[06:04] <holstein> yup
[06:04] <holstein> we'll see
[06:05] <holstein> i got a concept
[06:05] <holstein> i just need some time
[06:05] <holstein> and im kinda busy
[06:05] <_guitarman_> i am so tempted to trash my windows partition on this mininote but i need to keep it in case i need to send it back for repairs
[06:05] <holstein> which is great really :)
[06:06] <holstein> _guitarman_: yeah?
[06:06] <holstein> did they send you discs?
[06:06] <holstein> i had HP send me discs for my mininote
[06:07] <holstein> it took some talking, but i got them shipped for free
[06:07] <holstein> BUT that was SUSE
[06:08] <_guitarman_> oh no i didn't get disks
[06:08] <_guitarman_> i have a restore partition
[06:08] <holstein> OH
[06:08] <_guitarman_> and an install
[06:08] <_guitarman_> i used gparted to cut the win7 installs space in 1/2
[06:08] <holstein> can you image it you think?
[06:08] <_guitarman_> and installed ubuntu on that
[06:09] <_guitarman_> holstein: i bet i could
[06:09] <_guitarman_> use clonzilla on it
[06:09] <holstein> im looking at a mini
[06:09] <_guitarman_> my problem is i don't have any external media to store something that big - same problem on my desktop...
[06:09] <_guitarman_> i need external storage.
[06:09] <holstein> its like $262 US
[06:09] <_guitarman_> i must confess - i'm looking at wiping slackware off of the desktop
[06:09] <_guitarman_> life in ubuntu is so much easier
[06:10] <holstein> hehe
[06:10] <holstein> do you feel its as fast?
[06:10] <_guitarman_> but after i finish that song
[06:10] <_guitarman_> ;)
[06:10] <_guitarman_> hmmm
[06:10] <_guitarman_> it may not be.
[06:10] <_guitarman_> but ....
[06:10] <_guitarman_> i dont have the time to compile everything - thats really starting to piss me off
[06:10] <holstein> yeah
[06:10] <xenodrox> Hi all! I have Ubuntu Studio 8.4 freshly installed and updated. I've plugged in my wacom intuos tablet but to no avail. tried restarting with the tablet plugged  in. it worked out of box in regular ubuntu, so I know it works. any help?
[06:11] <_guitarman_> there are ppa's and such for ubuntu that make it nice and easy
[06:11] <_guitarman_> xenodrox: does it show up in a regular kernel boot?
[06:11] <_guitarman_> ahhhh
[06:11] <holstein> w0w, hardy
[06:11] <holstein> old-school
[06:11] <_guitarman_> xenodrox: i suspect the realtime kernel does't have the support built in
[06:11] <_guitarman_> holstein: heheh yup
[06:11] <holstein> xenodrox: would you try a lucid live CD?
[06:12] <_guitarman_> brb - rebooting - goign to try the low latency kernel
[06:12] <_guitarman_> holstein: good idea
[06:12] <holstein> i have a wacom tablet
[06:12] <holstein> and it just works when i plug it in to lucid
[06:12] <xenodrox> holstein: yeah i would be very willing
[06:12] <holstein> xenodrox: thats 10.04
[06:12] <holstein> you can try the live without messing with your current set-up
[06:13] <holstein> xenodrox: if your not doing audio, you dont need MOST of what ubuntustudio will offer
[06:13] <holstein> you can install from that lucid live disc
[06:13] <xenodrox> holstein: i do audio too
[06:13] <holstein> and run sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics
[06:13] <holstein> OH
[06:13] <holstein> OK
[06:15] <xenodrox> i'm grabbing the 10.04 DVD :)
[06:15] <holstein> xenodrox: cool, BUT its not live
[06:15]  * holstein goes to find the wacom
[06:16] <xenodrox> alternately, how would i go about setting up support for the tablet in my current version?
[06:17] <human> is there anyone can help me how to install ubuntustudio wubi or wubi like soft
[06:17] <holstein> xenodrox: you mean, besides writing some software?
[06:17] <holstein> nah, im not sure
[06:17] <holstein> maybe you can load a module
[06:18] <holstein> or compile a custome kernel
[06:18] <holstein> xenodrox: i have the CTE-430 (pearl)
[06:18] <holstein> what is yours?
[06:18] <holstein> hey human
[06:18] <human> is there anyone can help me how to install ubuntustudio by wubi or wubi like soft
[06:18] <human> hey
[06:18] <holstein> human: have you done a wubi install before?
[06:19] <human> ya but with ubuntu only
[06:19] <holstein> well, you can convert that to ubuntustudio
[06:19] <holstein> they are the same
[06:19] <holstein> and use the same repos
[06:19] <holstein> theres just some nice custom artwork
[06:19] <human> change the name of the iso?
[06:19] <holstein> and a BUNCH of software already installed
[06:20] <holstein> human: NO
[06:20] <xenodrox> holstein: apologies, had to roll myself a cig. intuos is mine. assuming you   mean tablet.
[06:20] <holstein> you can install ALL that makes ubuntustudio in an normal ubuntu install
[06:20] <holstein> xenodrox: yup
[06:20] <human> can u tell me how?
[06:21] <holstein> human: are you familiar with synaptic?
[06:21] <holstein> package manager?
[06:21] <human> no
[06:21] <holstein> OR apr-get?
[06:21] <human> ya
[06:21] <holstein> apt-get*
[06:21] <human> i got it
[06:21] <human> apt-get i know about it
[06:22] <xenodrox> screw this i'm installing windows
[06:22] <holstein> you can run sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[06:22] <holstein> xenodrox: hehe
[06:22] <xenodrox> :P
[06:22] <holstein> xenodrox: you might want to try installing the current ubuntu :)
[06:22] <human> ok thanks and another thing
[06:23] <holstein> 8.04 is 3 years old
[06:23] <xenodrox> holstein: you guys are just too nice here.
[06:23] <human> can i install ubuntu 10.4 64 bit by wubi
[06:24] <xenodrox> holstein: i migrated over from regular ubuntu, jaunty. it worked well and i thought ubuntustudio might make the whole audio thing work out better, had heck with JACK
[06:24] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[06:24] <holstein> !vanilla
[06:25] <holstein> human: im not sure, but it shouldnt matter
[06:25] <holstein> xenodrox: what audio interface?
[06:25] <human> thanks
[06:25] <xenodrox> the windows thing is slightly unrelated. i'm gonna dual boot so i don't have to jump through hoops for audio and use ubuntu studio for all else.
[06:25]  * holstein is a JACK fanboy :)
[06:26] <xenodrox> holstein: really? i just can't figure the thing out.
[06:26] <holstein> jack and ardour
[06:26] <holstein> its a pain at first for sure
[06:26] <holstein> BUT quite worth it
[06:26] <xenodrox> i mean, i'll follow the guides well enough and never get any sound
[06:26] <holstein> i was running cubase on XP
[06:26] <holstein> and enjoying it
[06:26] <holstein> making recordings
[06:26] <holstein> sounding good
[06:27] <xenodrox> what i would really like is rosegarden
[06:27] <holstein> THEN i finally got my linux rig sorted out
[06:27] <holstein> i felt like someone had gave me a new studio
[06:27] <holstein> in expensive one
[06:27] <holstein> an*
[06:27] <xenodrox> hey, isn't there a way to update ubuntu to the newest version from within ubuntu?
[06:28] <holstein> sure
[06:28] <holstein> xenodrox: what version are you on?
[06:28] <holstein> karmic?
[06:28] <holstein> you should go in order
[06:28] <xenodrox> studio 8.04
[06:28] <holstein> OH
[06:28] <holstein> im pretty sure you can jump from hardy to the new one
[06:29] <holstein> xenodrox: if you run the update-manager
[06:29] <holstein> does it say there is a new version available?
[06:30] <xenodrox> gives option to upgrade to 9.04
[06:30] <holstein> it only been available for about 24 hours
[06:30] <holstein> hmmm
[06:30] <xenodrox> think i found the fix
[06:31] <holstein> did you look at 'software sources' ?
[06:32] <holstein> thats the only place i have ever changed that setting
[06:32] <holstein> under there
[06:32] <holstein> you got an 'updates' tab
[06:32] <holstein> at the bottom should be 'release upgrades'
[06:33] <holstein> you should select 'long term support releases only'
[06:33] <holstein> THEN you should see an upgrade to 10.04
[06:33] <xenodrox> holstein: are you talking about in update-manager?
[06:33] <holstein> nah
[06:33] <holstein> should be in system-administration
[06:33] <holstein> software sources
[06:35] <xenodrox> did not work.
[06:38] <holstein> hmmm
[06:38] <holstein> what about sudo update-manager -d
[06:38] <holstein> you might just have to step up through some of the old ones
[06:39] <holstein> id probably just do a fresh install before id do that
[06:41] <xenodrox> alright. well, i'm about to head to bed, so i'll set a download and leave it at that for the night
[06:41] <xenodrox> thanks a lot, man!
[07:20] <LinuxGuy2009> Ubuntu Studio is only available as a alternate disk? No live dvd huh?
[07:22] <LinuxGuy2009> This due to unusable performance of some tasks when using a live environment?
[07:22] <LinuxGuy2009> Im guessing.
[07:36] <_guitarman_> LinuxGuy2009: it's just laziness
[07:36] <_guitarman_> <is totally joking>
[07:36] <_guitarman_> ;)
[07:48] <LinuxGuy2009> hehe yeah
[09:40] <Blank__> jussi, good job :)
[09:40] <jussi> :)
[11:16] <c3l> holstein, ahh thanks. does it have some negative implications otherwise? I mean, since a realtime kernel isn't used in most of the different distros out there..
[11:17] <c3l> or anyone who knows something about realtime kernels. Also, what is the difference of StudioUbuntu, and Ubuntun + the package ubuntustudio-desktop?
[11:26] <astraljava> c3l: ubuntustudio-desktop is the meta-package which sets the application selection for Ubuntu Studio.
[11:30] <c3l> astraljava, so the difference between those is that I dont get the realtime kernel? and do you know what negative implications a realtime kernel has? why does't every distro run realtime kernels?
[11:36] <astraljava> c3l: I'm not the expert on that, but you can always install realtime kernel by yourself too.
[11:36] <astraljava> c3l: At times the realtime kernel hasn't played well together with proprietary video drivers, but that might not be true anymore.
[11:37] <c3l> ah I see, well thanks =)
[12:30] <valkyr> Just installed Lucid. Where's software centre / add/remove programs gone?
[12:32] <rlameiro> ubuntustudio doesnt come with add/remove software
[12:32] <rlameiro> you can install with the synaptics package manager
[12:32] <rlameiro> you even can install the software centre on synaptic
[12:33] <c3l> # apt-get install program   . works fine afaik ;)
[12:33] <astraljava> I'd prefer aptitude, though.
[12:35] <rlameiro> well
[12:35] <rlameiro> to software center
[12:35] <rlameiro> sudo apt-get install software-center
[12:35] <c3l> # aptitude
[12:35] <rlameiro> lol
[12:35] <valkyr> Yeah, I don't really need it but I just wondered. I see it in Synaptic anyway, thanks.
[12:37] <valkyr> apt-get isn't so good when you're just browsing the available packages to see if there's any that look interesting ;)
[12:38] <c3l> valkyr, why? $ apt-get cache search program
[12:38] <c3l> works great
[12:39] <c3l> and if you dont like typing that much, add an alias to ~/bash.rc so that "apt-get cache search" has an alias like searchpkg or w/e you want
[12:39] <c3l> same applies for all commands of course. so you can do that with the "sudo apt-get install" too
[12:42] <astraljava> c3l: Just to clarify, it's apt-cache search <foo>.
[12:42] <c3l> ups, yes. thanks
[12:43] <valkyr> yeah, but that just gives package names, no? I need the descriptions...
[12:45] <astraljava> valkyr: When you find a package, try apt-cache show <package>.
[12:48] <valkyr> hmm. ok. I guess that might come in useful.
[18:34] <JeffBongi> Is anyone available to help me troubleshoot my almost freshly installed ubuntu studio?
[18:41] <JeffBongi> When I hit play on rhythym box, nothing happens and there is no error. When I record in ardour it's very slow moving (gets through a couple seconds after a minute or so) and does not record any sound, my internal microphone (which worked fine on 9.10 not-studio) isn't working, and when I play a file in lmms nothing happens and there is no error
[18:42] <JeffBongi> I followed the complete guide located here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[20:50] <bartje> hey, it's the wrong version of scribus that's in the repo's :-(
[20:50] <bartje> those of lucid I mean
[20:51] <rlameiro> ??
[20:51] <rlameiro> bartje: i dont get it?
[20:52] <bartje> in Karmic the stable release was a more recent one than in lucid
[20:53] <rlameiro> ???
[20:53] <rlameiro> really?
[20:53] <rlameiro> maybe it had some bug and they made a regression
[20:54] <bartje> I've tried to reach the scribus website, but it's down
[20:55] <rlameiro> wow....
[20:55] <rlameiro> its true
[20:55] <rlameiro> its really old
[20:55] <rlameiro> 2008
[20:55] <rlameiro> WTF???
[20:57] <rlameiro> well in debian they use the same
[20:57] <rlameiro> maybe there is some ppa with a recent version
[20:58] <bartje> possible, but I'm off again, it has been a long day :-), good night
[22:32] <andyzweb> hello: who is the package mantainer for UbuntuStudio
[22:33] <rlameiro> the ubuntustudio team andyzweb
[22:34] <rlameiro> what do you need to know?
[22:36] <andyzweb> do they need any more volunteers?
[22:39] <jussi> yes!!!
[22:39] <jussi> andyzweb: join #ubuntustudio-devel
[22:40] <rlameiro> yes!!!!!